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Goal Line: Eagles and Zebras Living In Harmony
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Seth and Jordan talk about the decline of officiating across the NFL and especially in this week's Dolphins-Eagles game plus all the rest of the usual Goal Line goodness!
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Introduction and NFL Week 7 Overview
00:00:13
Speaker
What is up goal line listeners? We are back with another episode of the goal line is we're putting the time that ends up on week seven in the NFL. We got the third quarter of the Niners and Vikings just kicked off in a surprising game and we're ready to talk some football. Jordan, what's going on, man? Not too much. Another. It was an eventful week of NFL. I'll just say that I just we have a lot to talk about this week. I feel like we've been.
00:00:41
Speaker
Avoiding one of the tough topics of the NFL this season and we're gonna hit on it tonight. So Got to come up with something to call the the listener base, you know on our wrestling show We always hit him with the Foley fam on the chick Foley show. What are we gonna do for her goal? I'm a man. We call him like the goalies You don't like that what's up all my goalies
00:01:05
Speaker
Okay. We'll workshop it. We'll come up with something. Uh, Jordan, remind the listeners where they can find us on social media. You can find us on Twitter X at goal underscore line underscore pod. And on Instagram, you can find us at the goal line football show. All right. The people love the, uh, the live game coverage kind of sprinkled in on Monday night football. It's definitely been a part of the feedback we've gotten early on. Um, what, uh, what, how do you see this one playing out right now, man? We got the Viking surprisingly holding the nine point lead on the Niners.
49ers' Struggles and Brock Purdy's Performance
00:01:36
Speaker
I mean, so here's my thing with, with this Niners team and we saw it last week against the Browns. Like if you rush party or, um, make and make decisions in a hurry, he's not great at it. I mean, and we kinda, we had kinda hit on this at the beginning of the season, right? Like we haven't really seen what he would look like under pressure. Cause they hadn't really had a close game in over a year. Um,
00:02:03
Speaker
But man, this is two weeks in a row. I'm, I'm not loving what I'm seeing from Brock birdie or the Niners right now. Honestly, they're run defense. There's something going on with their run defense. Cause this is two weeks in a row. It seems like their run defense just cannot hold up against anybody and they get gassed fast.
00:02:22
Speaker
Yeah, you know Jordan was hitting me with the the chicken little routine yesterday when the bills dropped that game to the Patriots saying the bills need to be worried But I still stand by it man I'm much more shaky on the Niners half of my preseason 49ers bills Super Bowl pick and just always they I mean they are a badass team But they are kind of one of those teams that seems like when if things go off script they can really struggle You know if they got a they got an altar from their game plan in game as we're seeing right now looks like another turnover for the
00:02:50
Speaker
Vikings defense right there man like yeah, this is looking very very shaky for the Niners What in the hell was pretty even doing there? So we'll keep an eye on this and talk as we go throughout the game, but we're gonna get into the rest of the week Jordan Yeah, I'm ready to go
00:03:18
Speaker
Real quick before we get started, man, tell all the goalies what you're sipping on. I for my first drink tonight, I am drinking a beer from Melvin brewery. It's called two times Thor. It's a double IPA 9.9%. So God, oh man, we're leading off with some heat tonight.
00:03:40
Speaker
Nice dude. I'm drinking, uh, from ghost river brewing right here in Memphis. Definitely check out their, their brewery and wing spot. Um, you know, down on bill street, if you ever downtown Memphis and need a place for a beverage or something to eat, I'm drinking their interstellar mosh. It is a raspberry sour. Pretty good. Good.
Myles Garrett: NFL's Best Player?
00:03:58
Speaker
All right, we got to lead off with this guy, Myles Garrett. Um, the question is, is Myles Garrett the best player in the NFL? Before you answer that Myles Garrett yesterday became the only player in the last 30 seasons to record multiple sacks, force multiple fumbles and block a field goal in the same game. Dude, that game yesterday that he played.
00:04:24
Speaker
I mean, I mean, you were texting back and forth. I have never seen someone just completely take over a game like that on the defensive side of the ball. I mean, yeah, the impact plays, man. It looked like, you know, JJ Watt had some big games like that, but even still, man, it's hard to think of one where he almost single handedly
00:04:42
Speaker
What a game for his team, dude. I was going to say we've seen like, um, I mean, TJ Watts done it numerous times. Um, JJ watt, like you said, obviously, uh, back in the day, Derek Thomas and those guys had huge sack games, but dude, go back and do yourself a favor. If you did not see the field goal block, that
00:05:02
Speaker
Miles Garrett did just to remind yourself, this dude is a defensive end. He's 300 pounds and he literally cleared the entire line, jumped over the top of the entire line and blocked the field goal. Like I don't know what else you can say other than like the way that dude played yesterday. I mean,
00:05:23
Speaker
If you're just strictly talking a guy that's just taking over a game like right now, and I know this prisoner of the moment yesterday, he looked like the best player in the game to me. I just, I, I know there's an argument to be made for a lot of guys, but dude, that was incredible yesterday. Like that's one of the most incredible, um, single player games I've ever seen that he just completely took the game over.
00:05:47
Speaker
Yeah, I mean if I if they did like a full NFL fantasy draft just reset it and reselected all the teams I still probably got Micah Parsons is the top Non quarterback on my draft board just because the youth but miles Garrett's definitely up before him so far this year and you know
00:06:02
Speaker
I mean that game is ridiculous between the blocked field goal and that strip sack in the end zone that got Picked up for a touchdown. That's plus 10 points right there for the Browns, you know Just off of those two plays not to mention all the others, you know Amazing plays he did where maybe he didn't get the sack but he just influences the player puts the pressure on him But just off those two plays that's plus 10 points in a game that they won by one So yeah, dude, he's just he's incredible man, and if they can get absolutely anything out of Deshaun Watson
00:06:31
Speaker
Which did at this point, man, I know you gave him the contract, dude. At some point, man, they've won their last two games without him. And the offense, he looked horrible the first five plays he played yesterday before they took him out. What do you do with the Sean Watson if you're the Browns? I mean, do they really have an option? It's not like you just cut the dude. You owe him so much money at this point. You can put him on the bench.
00:06:58
Speaker
The money's spent no matter what. The money's there, man. So that's gone regardless. It's a guaranteed contract. Are you gonna keep putting up with subpar quarterback play just because you paid this guy?
00:07:09
Speaker
That's the thing, when he's played this year, I've never thought this dude even looked remotely good. It's pretty obvious he's never going to get back to what he was with the Texans. I mean, we're now three years removed from that. He's not ever getting you back to that player that he was. It's obvious.
00:07:28
Speaker
he there, there's nothing that I've seen him do in the past season that makes me think like, all right, man, there's still flashes of it. Like, I don't see anything. I mean, he made that bonehead play a couple weeks ago, we threw the ball backwards, like 35 yards. I mean, dude, that's nothing you should ever be doing in any part of a game. I mean,
00:07:51
Speaker
I don't know. I just, I think they're screwed cause they're stuck with him. But the problem is, is they got this defense that is going to keep them in every game. And I know yesterday they gave him a ton of points, but I mean, their defense is going to be the thing that has to keep them in games and they have to pray that you still make a place for them though. Yeah.
Deshaun Watson's Future: Bench or Play?
00:08:10
Speaker
And that was just a while. That was one of those wild ass games yesterday. So I don't, I'm not going to hang their defense off of a, you know, one 30 burger.
00:08:17
Speaker
Yeah. So it's like, do you just pray that Deshaun Watson doesn't make the critical mistake to lose you a game? I mean, I know that's a tough pill to swallow. If I'm paying $45 million for a guy, I'm just praying doesn't mess up, man. Like I could have got
00:08:32
Speaker
You know, any number of guys, you could have got freaking, uh, you know, Marcus Mariota or something for less than that. Um, or stuff with Baker Mayfield, dude, they think if they just had Baker Mayfield, man, the way Baker's played for the bucks. And again, I, you know, he's not having an all pro season, but he's playing totally fine. And he's playing tough. Like you could tell his teammates rally around him. Think if they still had Baker Mayfield, a quarterback on this team. Yeah.
00:08:56
Speaker
I mean, I watched Baker play yesterday and I, there's nothing special there. I hate to tell you, dude. No, it's nothing special, but at least he's a decent dude. I mean, he had that 30 yard scramble there at the end to, uh, you know, almost send it to OT. I, uh, I don't know, dude, I just, it's never sat with me the way they got rid, they ran him out of town.
00:09:20
Speaker
I mean and nobody's rooting for me to do like I feel like it just seems like it's just something weird going on there man it's like the deal I don't know if they need to get a sports psychologist and like all that shit that went down off the field is just totally wrecked his confidence I can't imagine he's gotten this bad since his Houston Texan days but you wouldn't think so would you I mean but
00:09:40
Speaker
All the signs are pointing to it. Let's get off the shot and go back to Miles Garrett a little bit here because I got some more stats for you. So let's say he's played 90 career games and he has 82 sacks already. I mean, he's played six and a half seasons so far. Like dude, the pace this dude is on right now for career sacks. I mean, it's going to be pretty if he continues on this pace, it's going to be pretty hard to not see him break the sack record. So
00:10:10
Speaker
I don't know, man, this dude is just incredible. And I mean, a lot of those times, dude, he was on a horrible Browns team and not even a great defense. Like there's a lot of times he's the best player on the field and they know he's the only one that can get to the quarterback. He's getting double and triple teamed and still getting back there. Like I get what you're saying about Michael Parsons and he is an absolute monster. But I mean, dude, miles Garrett's consistency is just on another level. And some of the shit he did yesterday was just, I mean,
00:10:40
Speaker
That's stuff that our man his side should not be able to do The Browns are gonna be a tough tough team to go against in the playoffs man I think if you're you know, the bills dolphins Chiefs I think they're that's the one team that you definitely want to avoid Just because they could just turn it into a junk game with that defense and end up like I said I don't I don't really consider them a contender to come out of the AFC but I know they could probably pull off, you know at least one upset and they're just a team that nobody's gonna want to see come January and
00:11:09
Speaker
You want to talk about the craziest thing with the Browns too. They are getting nothing from the quarterback position and their best player arguably is done for the season. Nick Chubb, like what, what they're doing right now is defying logic. Like they're getting zero, a zero from the quarterback and they lost their best offensive player. And yet they're still playing as well as they are. I mean, they literally are defying logic right now.
00:11:34
Speaker
Yeah, it's pretty wild. So who they got there? The Steelers? I mean, Steelers are kind of hanging around. There's a good chance they could end up hosting a playoff game, man. If the Bengals don't get it into gear. Well, the problem is the Bengals can't ever beat the Browns. That's the one team that Burrow cannot play against. He's won one time in his career against them. And he always looks bad against them. It's crazy.
00:11:58
Speaker
Yeah, so freakin break up the Browns man shout out to Alex Eubank, dude, our longtime, longtime chick Foley show listener, man, he was giving us some crap for shitting on the brown so much first couple weeks of the season. So we'll give credit where it's the man they are doing their thing. Yeah, it's kind of hard to dog the Browns for as well as they're playing right now. So yeah, it's weird, man. What kind of world are we in lions and Browns? All right, we can move on to the next one.
00:12:25
Speaker
We're going to save the best one
Ravens vs. Lions: A Physical Showdown
00:12:27
Speaker
for last. Well, maybe the worst one, but, um, let's talk about the Ravens. My God, dude. Maybe they're way better than we thought, dude. Like I don't really know what to say after that game yesterday, other than they're clearly better than we thought. Um, man.
00:12:44
Speaker
That was an ass bank. The lines. Yeah. They played the, the exact way that the lions want a team to play against them. And they did it better than the lions. I mean, they just played smash mouth football and the lions couldn't take it. I mean, you texted me yesterday, dude, when Lamar is on and he just has that, that killer instinct. I mean, he's, he's just basically impossible to stop. And that's what he was yesterday.
00:13:10
Speaker
He's so dangerous as a runner that the defense is already kind of on their heels when they're playing him. So then if you get the passing game to start working with any kind of consistency like it was yesterday, it's just, it's a wrap, man. It's like 2019, dude, that, you know, that 2019 team, the year Lamar won the MVP, it gets written off because they went one and done in the playoffs because the Titans were red hot, went in there and spanked them in the divisional round. But dude, the regular season, that team was unstoppable, man. Like Lamar was just putting up video game numbers.
00:13:39
Speaker
Week after week and I want to say it was unanimous MVP. There was nobody even close that season And that's what it looked like yesterday I mean for they ended that game before the halftime first four drives were like 70 plus yard touchdowns touchdown drives and it was a wrap man Detroit got punched in the mouth and Just had absolutely no answer for anything That was one that went off the rails quick and you know for your Detroit you kind of I think you just burn the game film off of that one and just move on to the next one and say hey, you know we caught a buzz saw on Sunday and
00:14:09
Speaker
The other thing that I guess I didn't really pay attention to about the Ravens. I mean, I knew they had a decent defense, but they're a linebacker play with Patrick Queen and Roquan Smith. I mean, those dudes rarely make a mistake. Like, and they just fly around and just hit people all game. Like it's, they have two of the best linebackers in football for what they do on defense. So.
00:14:32
Speaker
Yeah, man. Yeah. They're a tough team, man. They've had so many playoff runs over the last handful of years. Uh, you know, last season they came very, very close to beating the bangles in Cincinnati on wildcard weekend with Tyler Huntley at quarterback. They had a.
00:14:46
Speaker
They were going for a QB sneak at the one yard line that got, you know, fumble and ran all the way back for a touchdown. And the other way that kind of decided that game, but they were very close to knocking off the bangles who damn near made it back to the Superbowl. So yeah, this, there's definitely going to be a team to be reckoned with a playoff time. Yeah. And another game or another team, you're not going to want to go to their house and the playoffs to play. Cause.
00:15:07
Speaker
Maybe they did figure something out on offense this week because I just had not been impressed with with their offense at all I just I felt like the play calling was absolute garbage and I I felt like yesterday that was that was like a perfect game plan like they mixed the run-in with the pass so much and it was just absolutely perfect so Yeah
00:15:30
Speaker
hats off to them and they they beat the dog shit out of the lions and I could have swore the lions were gonna go in there and just wreck them and yeah they beat the dog shit out of them
00:15:40
Speaker
And just think dude, Lamar Jackson was definitely available for trade this off season and nobody at all wanted to do, wanted to take a bite. I don't think he was as available as everybody made it out. Like I think that I think he was loosely available, but I think that the Ravens were just trying to push the envelope a little bit like, Hey man, if somebody will give us three or four first round picks, we'll go for it.
00:16:04
Speaker
He was coming off an injury. He, they said he could have played the end of the wind down in the season last year and he decided not to. So I don't know, man. It's, it's tough. I mean, I don't think, I mean, think about in comparison to the Sean Jackson, where he had teams just tripping all over themselves. He had teams going out of there. You had to show Watson, you had teams going out of their way to like public, like think about the Falcons. They came out and made a public statement. Like we will not pursue Lamar Jackson's like, what the hell?
00:16:33
Speaker
I think that, I think they did pursue Lamar Jackson and I think they heard the asking price and they were like, there's no chance we're paying that. And honestly, I mean, can you blame anybody? Like if the rumors are true and the Ravens really wanted three or four first round picks, like you can't do that as a franchise. I mean, I get it that if you're a quarterback away and sadly it looks like the Falcons really are a quarterback away right now is the biggest issue I have with this team.
00:17:01
Speaker
probably a coach and a quarterback away but either way I digress it's just I don't know man the NFL so weird and if you don't have a star quarterback you've really got nothing right now and yeah there's a there's probably about 20 teams that are kicking themselves right now watching him play football and Falcons are one of them he's been good man are they do you put them number two to the Chiefs in the AFC right now for contenders um
00:17:34
Speaker
I think if you're dolphins, they're starting, I think the dolphins are starting to be bullies, man. We see them beating up on the little guys, David, they get smacked in the mouth every time they go up against one of the heavyweights. The dolphins are also really, really hit with the injury bug right now. I mean, they've got, they have like 11 guys out last night, so that's not going to be good for them moving forward. And
00:17:55
Speaker
Biggest problem for the Dolphins, man, are you really trusting them if they have to go somewhere and play a cold weather game? Because I still don't trust the team that they have in a cold weather game. So when you rely on nothing that they're almost the definition of a finesse team. Yeah, when you rely on nothing but speed, like snow and wind and cold really are not your friends. So yeah, I don't. I would probably go with the Ravens at the end of the season right now.
00:18:24
Speaker
Um, all right, let's move on to second to last. How has Brandon Staley not been fired? And Justin Herbert is absolutely mid right now.
Chargers Under Scrutiny: Staley and Herbert
00:18:36
Speaker
Like I just, there's no arguing it. I know what you're going to say, and you're going to come back with that one game you had this year, but
00:18:43
Speaker
Dude, he is not playing well at all. Like he did not have any killer instinct in that game yesterday in the second half. I mean, dude, that game was 17 to 17 in the middle of the second quarter and they did not score again in that game. I just, I don't know, man. Is it all just, is it all Brandon Staley? I think a lot of it's on him. I just don't think he's an NFL coach, but dude, the more and more I watched Justin Herbert play, the more and more it looks like he does not have the killer instinct to be an elite quarterback in the NFL.
00:19:14
Speaker
I think his O-line's been so shaky for really the last two seasons, man. I think it's starting to do some permanent damage. You know what I mean? He's got a little bit of like the David Carr thing going where you started being panicked and checking down too much and you lose some of that aggressiveness. I agree, man. You called it back. I think that was after week two. You said you were getting rid of all your Herbert stock, man. It's looking like a smart move because it's not been great this season at all.
00:19:37
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, so he had two consecutive, pretty good games. I mean, really good games. The Tennessee game, he had 305 yards, two touchdowns. And then the Minnesota game, the following week, he had 405 and three touchdowns. The last three games, 259, one touchdown and two picks. 227, two touchdowns and one pick. And then 167, a touchdown and a pick.
00:20:06
Speaker
I mean, if this is what we're judging on elite level quarterback play, then I don't know, man. And outside of Dallas, it's not like they played Vegas in there and then they played Kansas City, which Kansas City's defense is definitely better, but they're clearly not an elite defense. I mean, the Chargers have put up 17 immediately on them yesterday and did not score again. So I don't know, man. I'm really leaning hard into the Justin Herbert is not as good as everybody thinks he is.
00:20:35
Speaker
I think he's going to be great. He's got to get the right mix of coaching, man. I'm still not going to. I've seen too much from him. Just the physical talent is off the charts. I will say number one at the front of the fraud alert is Kellen Moore. He was supposed to be the savior for this offense, man. And they've been worse than they were last year. I don't think there's any saving anything, though, with Staley as the head coach. I think that the cancer starts at the top, man. And I think it just spreads to that entire team. He should have got fired last year. I still don't know how he didn't.
00:21:03
Speaker
And then he should have definitely gotten fired after the first couple of games this year. And then like, what are they hanging on to him for at this point? I mean, he's clearly not as their bi-week man. Let's see. When is their bi-week?
00:21:19
Speaker
they already had their by weeks, didn't they? Oh, yeah. I don't know. Then maybe they don't have anybody in the staff. They trust to turn it over to you. Maybe he's made that survival move. Don't hire any assistance that could potentially be the head coach. That way they just hang on to you no matter what, man. Yeah. I just, I mean, dude, you look at the, I mean, I know a lot of these guys have played one more game than him, but
00:21:41
Speaker
This is a stats league, dude. This is a stats-driven league. And when you're not performing, people are going to call for your head. And I don't know. I'm just looking at some of the passing leaders. And it's not a good look at all for Justin Herbert. So I am officially worried about Justin Herbert. We have to close this out with, and this has been brought up numerous times in the first seven shows we've done from feedback and stuff.
NFL Officiating Woes
00:22:10
Speaker
dude is it just me or is that the officiating all time bad this season and the amount of flags we're throwing in games is all time bad like they're deciding games with either not calling flags or throwing flags at the biggest moments of the game. I told Seth that Tom Brady
00:22:32
Speaker
And Larry Fitzgerald and Jim Gray do a podcast called Let's Go on SiriusXM radio. And Brady said that he thinks a lot of times the refs get way too excited and try to insert themselves into the game. And he even said he's like, nobody is there to see you throw flags. We're there to watch football. And if it's not egregious, dude, keep the fucking flag in your pocket. The Falcons got called for defensive holding. I think they got called like six times yesterday.
00:23:00
Speaker
And all of them were just ticky tack, like none of them really affected the play. I think there was one where AJ Turrell, I grabbed Mike Evans just to make it not a touchdown, which that was the one that was not arguable at all. But the rest were just ticky tack. I just I think the refs are ruining the NFL. And I think it's showing in the scoring, man. Like the scoring is so far down right now. There's been 60 percent of the games have been unders this year. And I think that's a big part of it.
00:23:31
Speaker
I mean, it was like watching an episode of wild kingdom that game last night. You had freaking zebras and eagles, you know, living together in harmony, man. Like the dolphins guys, I don't think they really deserve to win, but they definitely, they definitely were up against it with some of those calls, especially down the stretch that the Eagles were getting on seemingly every big play.
00:23:49
Speaker
And I said it a couple of weeks ago, I felt like the Chiefs get a ton of calls down the stretch, too, which I get it, man. When you're as good as they are, they're going to get calls like they're they're Super Bowl champs. They got my homes like they're going to get calls. That's obvious. But.
00:24:05
Speaker
You can't just call every single thing. And I don't know what the hell has happened to offensive holding because it is almost never called anymore. Like you literally have to hold someone and take them to the ground for them to call holding. It's bad in the direction where the ball is going. It's so bad now. Like what they're calling, I just, I don't get, but then they're not calling like offensive holding or anything like that.
00:24:31
Speaker
I don't know, man. I just, I don't get it. I just feel like the NFL is in a bad pattern with the, the refs kind of taking over games and I don't know. It's not a good look for the NFL at all. Like it's making me not want to watch some of these games. And I love football, man. I've never wanted to turn off a football game. There's been a couple of times this season where I really haven't even wanted to watch it. I almost turned off the Falcons game yesterday, just cause all the flags. It's just.
00:24:57
Speaker
That's not what I want to watch me. And I don't, I don't want to watch a flag fest. I want to watch two good teams play each other and fight it on the field and not have the rest decide the game. So I'm getting frustrated with it. And I just felt like this was the week to finally bring it up. Cause it felt like a lot of games got switched yesterday because of flags. I mean, Colts literally lost because of flags and those two calls were absolutely God awful.
00:25:23
Speaker
Yeah, I mean they basically gift wrapped the touchdown for the Browns to take the lead. Yeah, so I don't know. I hope this is not a sign of things to come and this is just going to continue all season because it's not enjoyable at all for the for the fans to watch.
00:25:39
Speaker
You got anything else to add on flags? Do you think it's, do you think it's has any, I mean the conspiracy theory is that this is all Vegas driven dude. And that these calls are influenced by whenever Vegas needs to happen. Do you think there's any truth to that whatsoever? Or is that just a coping mechanism for teams on the losing end to some of these bad calls? I used to give a ton of, um,
00:26:02
Speaker
Credence to that with like Vegas knows in Vegas and all that stuff. And I do think Vegas does know a lot more than, than people want to give them credit for. I mean, I think they know a lot of behind the scenes stuff that the normal people don't know. So, but no, I don't, I don't think it's all Vegas driven. I just think a lot of human element is really coming out this season.
00:26:24
Speaker
I just, there's gotta be a way to hold refs more accountable. You know, I mean, you can't just like screw up an entire game and just not be held accountable. Like it's, it's one of the only jobs where you're not held accountable when you completely botch it. So I don't know, man, I don't know what the fix is, but it's not looking good right now. Anything else, dad?
00:26:51
Speaker
No, I just it seems like I mean not to get too far down a rabbit hole on this dude it feels like in 2023 man, we should have a better system in place to especially you know, we are asking a lot of the other refs I mean, I'd say they aren't blowing some what should be easy calls, but these are super fast athletes man that you're seeing stuff happen in the in the blink of an eye
00:27:13
Speaker
And we're actually make judgment calls on a lot of these like why not just make every penalty reviewable, you know, like give the refs an extra or give the coaches an extra challenge right I know nobody wants to see any added replay. But here's the thing. Let's stop going through the charade of the referee going to the little booth and looking under there like it's, you know, some shit from the 1970s dude we got.
00:27:34
Speaker
the staff in New York watching all these games on big TV, blow it down as much as they need to, like let's just let anything be challengeable. So at least you got a little bit of recourse, man. I just felt like that would, I feel like what you would lose with having the game slowed up a little bit, I feel like you would gain so much more by just not having these tainted endings to games. Okay, so while I agree with what you're saying there,
00:28:02
Speaker
I think the fourth quarter.
00:28:06
Speaker
that the command center is what should come in handy in the fourth quarter. Like if there's a close call and you're not real sure what you throw the flag, I feel like that's when they should be able to come in and help you. You can't do it all game, dude. We'd have eight hour games. Like nobody wants that. The coaches still only have three challenges. I know, but it's just tell me it's going to make the games double in length. They already have two challenges now. Like it's going to make the game double in length. And if it's, it shouldn't take that long. Do you like literally they can watch the play in New York. I mean, we can typically
00:28:35
Speaker
figure out what the right call is within like 40 seconds, dude. You know what I mean? Like, I feel like if they would, if they were a concerted, they could make this happen, dude. Think of some of the shit that they do nowadays. I feel like we can make these decisions a little bit quicker.
00:28:49
Speaker
There's another thing that needs to happen because the Rams got absolutely fucked yesterday too. The Steelers did not get a first down on that fourth down. Like he was definitely short and they marked it wrong and gave him a first down. They had no timeouts left so they couldn't challenge it. There's gotta be something you can do on fourth down to do the spot, especially when it's always like a tush push or something like that. Like there's gotta be a way to review those calls, man. Cause like, do those,
00:29:17
Speaker
those, that ended up that ended the game. Like the Rams didn't have any time off left. So it just ended the game and it wasn't the wrong call. I just, that and defensive holding and a legal contact by the defense that are five yard penalties that ended up being automatic first downs.
00:29:34
Speaker
Dude, no team should get rewarded on third and 30 because of a holding. Like I'm sorry, man. There's no way a five yard penalty should wipe out a third and 30. Like there's just no way. And I've seen it way too many times happen. I just, I don't understand how the competition committee does not want to change that every off season. Like that's such a terrible call. I just, I don't get it, man.
00:30:02
Speaker
Also hate the call the fumble out of the end zone dude, like why can I get rid of that man? Why should the why should the other team get the ball that ends up being like ever happens that can swing a game, too Yeah, if you don't recover it, it should go back to the spot of the fumble like wherever the fumble took place That's where it should go back to if you're
00:30:22
Speaker
I don't know, man. Cause I've seen it happen way too many times where a guy fumbles like on the two yard line and then it rolls through the ends. I'm like, I'm sorry, dude. They should not get rewarded for that. The ball should just go back to the two yard line, respot it and play the next down. Like there's just, there's gotta be a better way, man. There's just too much shit that goes wrong in the NFL now. And there's so much money involved in it that there's just gotta be a better way.
00:30:49
Speaker
got anything else we should have some accountability to man maybe have like the NFL like call out these refs by they give us some stats on the refs right like this guy is blown this many calls this this season you know yeah something like that it's bad there's there's just got to be a better way to this because yeah it's it's ruining the game man like everybody loves watching NFL but when it's
00:31:09
Speaker
being screwed up by refs. I mean, and I'm not going to say like I could, anybody could just go out there and do this. I know it's a tough job. Like these are world class athletes and you're making a judgment call in a split second. So I'm not saying it's all their fault. I'm just saying like there needs to be some accountability on it.
00:31:29
Speaker
All right.
Falcons' Defensive Strengths
00:31:30
Speaker
Let's, uh, move to our favorite topic, the race to number one. So obviously nothing changed this week because the Panthers were off. So they're still number one, which goes to the bears. Um, everybody's got a quarterback now, dude. Yeah, sure. They do. Special agent. No, the bigger development is, is Caleb Williams is not playing well right now. That's the bigger development right now. Um,
00:31:56
Speaker
And I do like Drake may dude, I feel and Michael Phoenix is looking great for freaking Washington also. Yeah, this is gonna be interesting to see how this all shakes out. Arizona is one in six. Now they lost yesterday. So they're firmly in the two. Everybody else that had one win won yesterday. Like Chicago, Denver Giants and New England all won yesterday. So, but a little bit of space between
00:32:24
Speaker
the one in two and then everybody else. So it's, it's going to be interesting to see how this goes down the stretch. I'm going to be honest. I have no, I have no faith that the Panthers are going to win a game. I'm being dead serious. They're bad. I'm pulling up the schedule right now. So let's see, man.
00:32:41
Speaker
next game, their Sunday, they got the Texans coming to town. They could maybe sneak that one. Then they got the Colts, Gardner Minshew, then at the bear, they got some winnable games. I feel like they're going to sneak one. I think they win one of these next three out of the Texans Colts. Well, I will say this. I'll give Frank Rake some credit, even though I think he's a terrible head coach. He did give up play calling during the bi-week. So maybe that's a step in the right direction because
00:33:09
Speaker
that there's very few head coaches that I think should also be calling plays. Arthur Smith is not one of them. Frank Reich is not one of them. I just, I feel like there's too much going on in the game for you to be focusing on, on one thing. And I feel like you get distracted by certain things. And I mean, that's what you have an offensive coordinator for it. Let them call the game. Like if you disagree with something, you have the right to overrule them. But dude, this is why you have coordinators. I just, I don't get it.
00:33:38
Speaker
They got the Titans, November 26, which the Titans are going into full rebuild mode. They traded all pro safety, Kevin Byard to the Eagles today. The Titans pretty much become the Eagles farm team at this point with the, they had very little in return in exchange for A.J. Brown and Kevin Byard over these last two seasons. They got the Bucks at home last game of the season. That could be a game where the Bucks potentially have nothing to play for or resting starters, because they've already clinched the NFC South.
00:34:06
Speaker
know how the rest of the season goes. And they get the Packers come to town. We're just not going to pretend that yesterday didn't happen here, bud. I mean, yeah, the Falcons won, but it would not shock me one bit if the Falcons went on a four game losing streak, dude. Like they won that game in spite of themselves. They're the only team in the NFL that has not a lot of rushing touchdown. You put some respect on the Falcons name. They have a top five defense right now. A terrible quarterback, but a top five defense.
00:34:34
Speaker
Just saying, when's the last time you can say top five defense and the Falcons in the same sentence? The answer is never. I think I saw they're in, they're in sole possession of first place in the NFC South. The first time in like eight years also, I think for the first time since the Superbowl year. Yeah. Dude, as bad as they're playing on offense, their defense just keeps them in every game. And like their defense is just so much improved that hiring Ryan Nielsen from the saints was
00:35:00
Speaker
Apparently it was like a godsend cause the defense he runs and getting Jesse Bates. It's pretty amazing what an all pro safety does for your defense though. Cause he just gets everybody in the right spots and they don't give up the big plays anymore. Um, and that was their thing last year. They, they couldn't stop the big play. And this year they don't give up very many of them. And dude, we just played our seventh game and they have yet to give up a rushing touchdown. Like that's impressive. Yeah. They're freaking, uh, they're killing it, dude.
00:35:31
Speaker
All right, man. That's it. Defenses anyways, but Desmond Ritter, I just have, I have less than zero faith. Desmond Mitter. Yeah, I don't have a lot of faith in it either, but that's being kind. I could think of something else. Desmond Shitter. There you go. All right. You ready to get into uni watch? Yeah, let's do it.
00:36:13
Speaker
All right, so not a whole lot we had the Giants continuing their Their 90s throwback, you know, we saw him rock the away jerseys against the bills last week They had the home jerseys with the the blue the blue uniforms this week. I mean, let's just go back to that look permanently. It looked awesome Yeah, I don't know we're waiting on here like we can just get rid of the new Giants uniforms and just go back to this permanently so
00:36:35
Speaker
Yeah, better logos, better colors. I mean, they did have the two Super Bowls in the Eli year. So I guess, you know, I could see wanting to hang on to that look for tradition, but you know, you want Super Bowls with Bill Parcells also. It's not like they were, they were a junk team. You know, the Giants have consistently been a contender over the last 30 years, regardless what the uniforms look like. So yeah, just, it looks better. Let's, let's make it happen full time next season.
00:36:58
Speaker
So we had the Colts debut their Indiana Knights jerseys yesterday. I know we talked about a couple of uniforms that we were higher on in the preseason and see them in an action. They kind of sucked. I actually like these a lot better, dude. I still thought they looked like the Duke Blue Devils, but I thought these uniforms looked pretty freaking nice in action. The blue on blue with the matte black helmet. I thought it was pretty tough.
00:37:20
Speaker
Man, you like those? I thought those looked hideous. Ari's like, who is that? And I told her and she's like, why are they wearing that? Have they ever had black helmets? They said, they sure have not. I'm not a fan. I mean, the Colts do have pretty much perfect uniforms as is. So they're ones that you don't need to touch it. They don't need alternates. They they're home and away jerseys are both absolutely
00:37:41
Speaker
They're kind of like if you were just drawn up like a generic football uniform It's it would look a lot like the colts unis and I mean that is a compliment. I mean they look classic They don't just look plain but I thought these were pretty cool Maybe it helped that they were in probably the most entertaining game of the season so far. Yeah, that probably helped a lot
00:37:58
Speaker
Shout out to Gardner Minshew also, man. I feel like that dude might be playing himself into a starting job somewhere next season. Like he's, he's looked pretty dang solid the last couple of weeks. I mean, judging by the NFL quarterback tears we got going right now, it's hard to argue that. Yeah. I mean, we'll see how he goes down the stretch. I think he's kind of always been that guy who can come in and do really good for four or five weeks, but he seems like he has trouble maintaining over the long haul.
00:38:22
Speaker
You know, he's, he's always an entertaining player. Teammates seem to really rally around him. So hoping, wishing him some success as he continues on his NFL Jersey. And then last, last night, one of the most anticipated alternates of the season, the Eagles brought back the Kelly green. They looked awesome, man. Their regular dreams are great, but these alternates were a really, really nice change up. Man, those are.
00:38:45
Speaker
I said this was my favorite coming into the season and I ain't changing that now. Like those are just absolute perfection. I just. Yeah. You're waiting for like Randall Cunningham to come out of the tunnel, man. I can wait for the ghost of Reggie white to appear on the field. Yeah. Very, very tough look, man. I hope they, uh, I'm assuming they're going to rock those at least one more time this season. I'm sure they sold a ton of merch off of that look. Oh yeah. No doubt. All right. Let's get into our picks.
Preview of NFL Week 8 Picks
00:39:26
Speaker
All right, how we do last week? Man, bad week for me. I went five and seven, you went seven and five. Yeah, that's where we're at on the season now.
00:39:38
Speaker
I think that's two wins for you. I think, I think last week I said it was like four, two and one or something like that. Or four, two and two. So it's, it's close. I mean, I think it would've had to be three, two and one dude. So what are we, cause we've had seven weeks. You're the statistician. You're right. This is seventh week. So I think we're three, three and one, three, three and one. Okay.
00:39:59
Speaker
Got it. All right. Let's get into the week eight slate. Um, how you feeling on this one, man? Vikings got the ball up 19 14 with a minute to go in the third quarter. What do you, how do you see this one playing out now? I mean, it's really hard for me to envision the Vikings winning this game. Like I just, yeah, it seems like the momentum's on the side of the Niners. I see them toughing it out and getting the win. Yeah. Yeah. No doubt. It's going to be close though. I, I'd be surprised if it ended up, uh, the Niners covering the spread. So.
00:40:28
Speaker
All right. Thursday night football. This one should be interesting. We got the bucks traveling up to Buffalo to play the bills. This feels like a get right game to me for the bills. I say they roll. Yeah. The bills have to, this is a must win for the bills. I'm just going to say it's a must win. And what I saw at a Tampa Bay yesterday, I just, we talk about a lot of these pretenders or fake teams. The bucks are not good, man. They're not a good football team. I'm sorry. They're not.
00:40:59
Speaker
All right, the Patriots, the resurgent New England Patriots traveling down to Miami to face the dolphins, man, both even on the best of the Patriots years, for whatever reason, something happens on that flight from Boston down to Miami. They always struggled down there. And without Tom Brady, I think it's going to be even worse, man. I say the dolphins, they also bounced back from a tough last night and beat the brakes off the Patriots down in Miami. Dolphins are going to be pissed for that game. So yeah, it's pretty easy to pick the dolphins this week.
00:41:26
Speaker
This one should be interesting, dude. The three and three Jets traveling, I mean, I guess they're not really traveling. It's the same stadium. It's a Giants home game. The battle of New York, the three and three Jets against the two and five Giants. Giants have looked much better the last two weeks with Tyrod Taylor at quarterback. I'm gonna let you go first on this one. Jets are favored by three points coming in. I'm going Jets. They had to buy a week. I just, I trust their defense. I mean,
00:41:53
Speaker
If Tyrod Taylor really shreds the Jets defense, I'll start getting impressed. But I just, I don't see it happening. The Jets have played so much better in the last couple of games. I just, I don't see the Giants meeting them. This will be a real litmus test for if Zach Wilson is actually back on track or not. Cause this is a game they definitely should win. I wouldn't be shocked to see the Giants take this one, but I'll bet Jets as well.
00:42:19
Speaker
Alright, the five and two Jaguars heading into Pittsburgh face the four and two Steelers. I don't really know how the Steelers are foreign to man, they've been less than impressive, but I still got a bad feeling about you know Jacksonville hasn't really
00:42:32
Speaker
They're soft five and two as well, man. Trevor Woods is kind of, kind of carrying that team. It seems like he's got a nagging leg injury. It seems like he's been making big plays for him down the stretch. You know, they had a lot of trouble putting the saints away the other night. I think the Steelers win this one, man. I think they get the, their home dogs. I think they pull off the upset and beat the traveling Jacksonville. I'm going Jags just.
00:42:55
Speaker
Dude, I know what you're saying about them having problems put away the Saints, but dude, Trevor Lawrence had never won in that stadium. So the fact that they came back and won that game to me is all I needed to know about them. Short week going to New Orleans, which is never an easy place to play. I'm going Jags. I just, I think they are good. I, I know they're soft, they are soft five and two or whatever it is, but I think they are good. So I'm going Jags.
00:43:23
Speaker
All right, the four and three Falcons head into Nashville to face the two and four Titans who knows Derek Henry may not be on the team by Sunday He's being shopped around they just traded by their second best player on defense. There's a chance Derek Henry's gone before this weekend And it's Malik Willis or will love us this week. They've already confirmed it. So Yeah, I think that unless the Falcons go out and just shit the bed man. They're gonna be five and three after week eight. I
00:43:48
Speaker
I really, really struggled to think that the Titans with will Levis or Malik Willis are going to move the ball against the Falcons defense. It's looked as good as they have. Yeah. God, dude, I hate picking the Falcons because it seems like every time me and you both agree that they're going to win, they lose, but
00:44:07
Speaker
I just dude, I've got the variable factor. Rables are outstanding. You do, but I think the Falcons are just a better overall team, man. And like you said, that's not going to be the only guy from the Titans that gets traded. Like that's just, I feel like that's just the start of it. I, I feel like they know now that they need to start over, which has been obvious rebuild. Yeah. So yeah, it's, it's coming. And I feel like,
00:44:31
Speaker
Yeah, I just, I don't feel like the Titans have enough to beat the Falcons. I mean the over-under on this game's like 37. So it's going to be ugly. The wild card to it is that Desmond Ritter does have the ability to single handle. We lose this game for the Falcons, man. He does. Um, but I got a feeling after everything that happened yesterday with Bijon and everything that he's going to come out with a chip on his shoulder and just ball out on Sunday.
00:44:56
Speaker
Yeah. All right. Battle of the top two quarterbacks from the rookie class. We got Bryce Young hosting CJ Stroud and the Texans.
00:45:05
Speaker
I think this is going to be a really good game. I think this is going to be an exciting game. Yeah, they got to have every, every, you know, all the, I think they're going to be gunning hard to get their first win. I think they're going to see some trick plays, maybe a little bit more aggressive game plan than we've seen, but I still think it's going to be enough, man. I think CJ Stroud is the better going to end up being the better of these two QBs. And I think the Texans win a win on Sunday. I agree. I think the Texans are just a better team overall too.
00:45:32
Speaker
And another team to watch for the trade deadline is the Panthers. I got a feeling they're going to dump some people this weekend. So it's coming. Trade deadline is Tuesday. So everything is happening soon. All right. We got a rare noon kickoff for the Dallas Cowboys. The four and two Cowboys hosting the three and four Rams. Cowboys off a bye. I just I did not love what I saw from the Rams yesterday either, man.
00:46:01
Speaker
I felt like they've been, they had been playing above expectations going into this weekend. I felt like yesterday was the first real let down in the season for them. They think I'll start settling down a little bit. Well, the biggest, they lost Kyron Williams, who was arguably the linchpin to their offense so far through this season and not having him and playing Royce Freeman and Daryl Henderson instead. I just, I don't feel like it has the same to it. So yeah, I don't feel good about the, the Rams moving forward. So I'm going Dallas.
00:46:31
Speaker
you
00:46:33
Speaker
All right. Yeah, I agree. Cowboys. Yeah, Cowboys. All right. The battle, the NFC North, man, back in the day, this would be a heavyweight fight, but now it's looking like a, you know, a curtain jerker to use a wrestling term, two and four Vikings against the two and four Packers. I think the Vikings win, man. The Packers, I think that that week one performance kind of gave everybody some false hope. This is not a good team. I'm not a believer in anything I've seen out of Jordan love so far. I mean, they got beat by the freaking Broncos yesterday. I think the Vikings go into Lambo and get the win.
00:47:03
Speaker
I agree. I think, uh, another team that's going to realize that they should have done the rebuild already is going to be the Packers. And I think it's coming. Hey, don't look now, man. If the, if the Vikings hold on and win this game and beat Lambo, they're going to be back at four and four as brutal at the start of the year. This has been so far. They'll be four and four, uh, with Kirk cousins and you know, Justin Jefferson on the way back, they could end up making some noise this season. Yeah, no doubt.
00:47:29
Speaker
All right. The saints traveling to India to face the three and four Colts. I think the saints are three and four is not a great record. I think it's fraudulent for the saints though. They are not at three and 14 at all. I think they suck. I think the Colts are actually better than their record shows. And I think the Colts get the win. Dude, the saints are not a good football team at all.
00:47:48
Speaker
They made the biggest error, I think in a long time signing their car to that deal. Dude, he is not good. How does, how do they have Jamis? At least Jamis is aggressive. Jamis gives you a puncher's chance. You know, Jamis is at least going to land some haymakers. Dude, he dumps the ball off 15 times a Camara because he has no faith in his arm to throw it downfield. Everybody's like, Oh, he's hurt. I don't care. If you're out there, you have to make plays and he's not making plays like
00:48:15
Speaker
I just, I do not see the upside to them signing car. And man, sad. So sad. Just kidding. Yeah. They need to put James in more. They do. They need to give, take some hill of the ball more too, man. I don't know why they don't give him the rock more. I feel like every time he gets the ball, he fucking makes something happen, dude. I've never understood why they're so, they limit their usage of him so much. Yeah, it's weird, but yeah, I'm going Colts as well.
00:48:39
Speaker
Okay, we have the NFC East battle, the Eagles going against the commanders. It isn't DC, but I think the Eagles roll and get to seven and one. Yeah, the Eagles just there are two lines of scrimmage. They just dominate up front in on both lines of scrimmage. So yeah, I agree with the Eagles.
00:48:58
Speaker
All right, here's one of our first real coin flip games of the season, man. We got the four and two Browns coming up that big dramatic win yesterday, heading up to Seattle, who quietly, dude, Gino and the Seahawks are doing their thing again. They're foreign too, man. I think the Seahawks put up enough. I think the Browns have a good showing, but I just think they're with that offense. I don't think they're able to quite match the, the points that Gino is going to be able to get for the Seahawks, dude. And I think the Seahawks win, man, Kenneth Walker, Arlington tiger, he's been having a great season also.
00:49:28
Speaker
Yeah. Mandy, this is a really tough game. I'm going to go Cleveland. I just, I feel like their defense is good enough. You got your fucking man. Crush on the Browns, dude. I don't have a man. I don't have a man. He's hard. Okay. Why don't you, why don't you name me one person on the Seahawks? That's going to block miles Garrett this weekend. Name me one person that's going to keep their offensive line because their offensive line sucks. Geno Smith is going to be on his back nine times in that game.
00:49:57
Speaker
Like, I mean, dude, I get it. Miles Garrett's awesome, dude. He, but they still gave up 38 points to Gardner meant to you in the cold. So you, you think you really think that the Seahawks who don't forget played like absolute dog shit and scored 13 points against the bangles defense, which is way worse than the Browns defense. You think that's the team that's just going to beat the Browns into submission. Really? Like that's, that's what you think is
00:50:24
Speaker
I don't think they're going to be, I don't think they're going to beat them in submission. It's not going to be like a, you know, a squash match, dude, but if it's a close game, if it's a close game, I'm taking the Browns, they got the better defense. Like that's just, I hopefully Watson doesn't play cause if Watson plays that changes the whole thing.
00:50:41
Speaker
The rounds do got a way better defense, but I think the gap between Gino Smith and PJ Walker or Deshaun Watson, it really, I mean, those guys are kind of interchangeable to me. I think the gap at quarterback is going to be much bigger than the gap at quarterback was yesterday when we saw the Colts damn near win that game. So, I mean, I told you, it's a coin flip game. I'm not going to, you know, it's not going to be the shocker of the century. If Cleveland goes up to Seattle and gets a win, but that's a place still has a good home field advantage. I think, I think the Seahawks
00:51:08
Speaker
Offense is gonna struggle big time against the Browns defense I think the Browns offense is gonna absolutely do jack shit though, dude And I'll take a struggling offense over one doing nothing like I see this being an ugly game But I think the Seahawks win man
00:51:24
Speaker
All right. Heading to Phoenix, the five and two red hot Baltimore Ravens facing the one and six Cardinals. I think it's not a matter of, you know, if it's just by how much I think the Ravens blowing out there. The only thing I'll say about the Ravens is they have one game every year where this is exactly what we say. They're coming off a big win. They should blow this team out and then they just come out and lay an egg. It wouldn't surprise me, but even if they lay an egg, they're still better than the Cardinals. So yeah, I'm going Baltimore.
00:51:53
Speaker
Was that a Atlanta egg? Was that like a bird pun? Cause it's Ravens versus the Cardinals. Exactly. Glad you got that. All right. AFC West action, the six and one chiefs heading into the two and five Broncos. I hope the chiefs dropped 50 on them. We haven't seen a good offensive explosion yet from Casey. I hope we see it on Sunday. Yeah. The Broncos are not good. It's just, they're not a good football team. So yeah, I'm going to, they're horrible.
00:52:19
Speaker
All right, this is gonna be a good one, dude. Joe Burrow and the well rested coming off the bye week Cincinnati Bengals heading into San Fran to face the suddenly shaky 49ers. I think since he gets the win, dude, I'm starting to lose comp. I know I probably end up regretting this when it's, you know, 24 to seven at halftime. Christian McCaffrey's got 90 yards and two touchdowns, but
00:52:44
Speaker
I don't know, dude, I'm for some reason I'm starting to lose a little bit of faith in the, uh, the Niners to get it done, man. So I'm picking, I'm picking since you to go in and get the win on the road, dude, I just don't think the bangles offensive line is going to hold up one Sunday though. That's the only problem. Like their offensive line has made worse defensive lines. Just shred them. I mean, dude, the Titans defensive line absolutely shredded the bangles offensive line. Like
00:53:09
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, that's true. My counter to that would be that their offensive line has sucked the last two years and they made a Super Bowl run and made to the AFC championship. I mean, you're not wrong. I'm not going to be able to work around it, but I just, this team has been a little bit of a road warriors in the, the Joe burrow run. And yeah, I think they're going to beat the Niners man. I'm going Niners. I just, the Niners are playing two bad games in a row. I just, I struggle to think they're going to play three bad games in a row. I mean, this team is too good, man. They're just,
00:53:39
Speaker
I feel like they're going to get everybody back next week. And then we're going to remember why, why we all predicted him to go to the Superbowl. And I just feel like it starts next week against the bangles. All right. How can we, it's a shame. We couldn't flex this super interesting Niner Cincinnati game to Sunday night. Cause our Sunday night game is the bears against the chargers in LA.
00:54:00
Speaker
dude, I'm tempted to pick the bears, man. You know, it's going to be a ton of bearish fans in the stands. It's probably going to be 50 50 at best. If it doesn't end up sounding like freaking soldier field West, I, I don't know. I'm going to let you make your, your prediction on this one first, dude. I, I don't want to overreact to what I saw yesterday. Cause the Raiders are absolutely a miserable football team. They are not good at all.
00:54:27
Speaker
With that, I'm going chargers. I think Brandon Staley sucks, but I mean, dude, are the chargers really going to lose to the fucking bears? Like, I just, I don't see it. One thing to note, man, the bears are, here's some stats for you. The bears are now two and one since trading Chase Claypool to the dolphins. They were 0 and 13 with him.
00:54:51
Speaker
The Dolphins were five and one before activating Chase Claypool. They're O and one with Chase Claypool active in the lineup. Listen to this, dude. The Steelers were two and six their last eight games with Chase Claypool. They're 11 and four over their last 15 since they got rid of him, dude. Chase Claypool has won two games in the last two seasons and zero in over a year, dude. That's the stats for Chase Claypool in the NFL. He is so bad, dude. He's just, he's so bad.
00:55:20
Speaker
The dolphins one that was just probably a coincidence man because of the magic of one week But how about that for the Bears? The the Bears were 0 and 13 with him and we've got two and one since then and the Steelers dude 11 I didn't realize the Steelers were 11 and four over their last 15 games. That's pretty impressive Yeah, man freaking watch out for Kenny small hands pick it dude. All right, who you going with? Fuck it the Bears. Oh boy. No bears. Oh
00:55:48
Speaker
All right. Chargers are eight and a half point favors. I just feel like the, I feel like the, the fire is fucking burning in the, on the charges organization right now, dude. And I just feel like it's going to be a weird game. I feel like there's going to be like the bad kind of desperation, not the good kind of desperation. And the bears have nothing to lose, man. They got this backup quarterback that they've stumbled upon who, I mean, he was playing division two football for, I think shepherd university was the name of the school he played for last season. And then he started and won a game in the NFL yesterday.
00:56:15
Speaker
Yeah, impressive. He's first guy, first division two quarterback to start and win a game since John Kitna. Monday night, we got the Vegas Raiders traveled into Motor City to face the Lions. I think the Lions put on a show for us, man. I think they bounced back in a big way. You know, Dan Campbell's going to have the fire lit under them boys. I think they dropped 40. Yeah. If the, if the, our Lions do anything other than massacre, the Raiders that it's time to start wondering if the Lions are actually not good.
00:56:44
Speaker
because they should just absolutely massacre them. Yeah. We got some interesting games this weekend. I'm looking forward to the slate, man. Yeah. All right. Let's get into $1 million picks.
Betting Recap: Gains and Losses
00:57:05
Speaker
All right, Jordan, tell us how we did last week. Boy, I had a rough week. I had Detroit plus three. That didn't it. And then I'd Cleveland minus two.
00:57:17
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one by one. I lost 200k last week. That brings me to seven and seven on the season and minus 100k. Seth took the Eagles minus one and a half for 50k and hit and he is on the ropes right now with the 49ers minus seven which does not look promising right now.
00:57:34
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Um, we need a touchdown and then a classic prime time Kirk cousins pick six to put a cherry on top on this one. Yeah. Cause that Seth's got the Niners minus seven for a hundred K and on the season right now, Seth is seven and six and he is minus one 25 K. So this is a big, you need this pretty bad because going to 225 K down on the season is not a good place to be.
00:57:59
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We got 12 and a half. I just need two touchdowns over 12 and a half minutes. The Niners could totally do that, man, but yeah, it's not looking great for the home team. All right, I'll go first this week, man. My first pick, I'm going to take the Texans minus two and a half. I'll put 50K on them to go into Carolina and win the battle of the two quarterbacks. Okay. Texans minus two and a half. Got it.
00:58:22
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All right. And what do you get for your first? I'm actually going with the same game, but I'm going with the over 43 and a half. I think there's going to be some scoring in this game and I just, the Panthers put up a ton of junk points. So I feel like I'm going to rely on them to put up some junk points again this week. And I feel like the Texans will score enough. So over 43 and a half and I'm going to go for 50 K.
00:58:48
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Alright, and I'm confident this Monday night bet I got this week is going to work out and I'm going to double down and try to make it two straight Monday night classics for me. I'm going to put 100 K on the Lions covering the eight point spread against the Raiders.
00:59:01
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Lions minus eight for 100k. Yep, you put 50 on the Texans, correct? 50 Yeah, but I got 50 on the Texans just a little, just a little sprinkling on the Texans, dude, and I'm gonna go 100k on the on the lines. Okay, I like it. I am going for my second one, I'm going Jets minus two and a half for 50k. That's a shaky bet, dude. shaky, shaky bet, putting money down on Zach Wilson.
00:59:26
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I like it, man. I feel like I'm going to get back on track this week. We're getting back to the fucking basics. The Jets defense is going to stand tall this weekend. Zach Wilson is going to score about 10 points and they're going to win 10-7.
00:59:42
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Let's get into some listener mail, man. That's pretty, that's a lot of confidence. I don't know if I believe it, but you sound like you believe it, man. If I was in the locker room and heard that, I'd be fired up. All right. John Swallow says, which team will fire their coach first? It should be the Chargers. They should have already done it, but
00:59:59
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I'm still going charges. I feel like eventually it'll happen. I just, he's going to play himself out of a job or he's going to, they're going to get him out of the job. So the fact that they haven't fired him yet makes me think they're not going to, um, I still, I'm still going to go.
01:00:19
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I'll go the bears man. I think the bears got a little bit more dysfunctional organization. I can see ever flustered man. So I, you know, it's definitely, I think between him and Staley, the other teams that are really shitty have like known good coaches or they got coaches that are in like their first year. Um, so yeah, I think, uh, I'll go ever flustered so we don't get the same. I would say the Raiders, but dude, they've built such a shitty roster. I don't know how you could really fire McDaniels at this point. Like it's not exactly his fault that they're this bad. Yeah.
01:00:50
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And he it's been a shit show. The Raiders last couple years, you know, with the stuff to happen with Henry Ruggs and the whole John Gruden scandal. I think they're I think they're really hoping that some stability pays off. And I think I think McDaniel's got at least at least one more season to start showing some improvement there.
01:01:07
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Oh, he dropped that pass. Yeah, it's not like the Niners are struggling with the Vikings, man, right now. All right. Next question. John Swallow also says, will we see any trades before the deadline? So we saw the Titans trade, all pro safety, Kevin Bayard today. Derek Henry might be on the move as well. Is there any other big names we might see get moved before tomorrow afternoon, Jordan? Well, it's not till next Tuesday, buddy.
01:01:30
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Oh, okay. Okay. So we got another whole, one of the week, Halloween is, I mean, Derek Henry's the other big name out there. Like if you saw a contender grabbing him, I've heard, uh, the Cowboys get mentioned for trading for him. And that could be, that could be a nice fit running backs at one of the easiest positions to kind of plug and play somebody. So I think I could see a contender making a move for Derek Henry. Um, is there anybody else kind of on the radar? I got a sneaky one for you. I feel like, Oh, I talked about the Panthers making a trade.
01:01:58
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Dude, I feel like a great move right now would be the chiefs trading for Adam. Like Adam Thielen on that offense would eat. He's like the perfect guy for that offense. So I could easily feel like he's been such a reliable target for Bryce young and he's a cheap guy. He's not like on a big contract. Like why, why would you trade him? And I'm sure he'd love to go to a contender, dude, but also like he's not going to get the rock as much as he does on any other team than Carolina right now. Yeah.
01:02:27
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Yeah, it would be a good move, man. It'd be a great move for the Chiefs. Adam Thielen, dude, he's super underrated, man. I feel like the Vikings made a mistake even letting him go. Like I get it. Dude's not super athletic at all, but great route runner, good hands. And it seems like just a really great teammate. He's been such an asset for Bryce Young so far this season.
01:02:46
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know, man. We'll see. Yeah. Typically the trade deadline, you don't usually see the star players moving. It's going to be, I'm sure there'll be some like really solid mid-level players though to get moved. Uh, they can end up helping out a contender. So I don't know if we'll see the big splashy move, but did you, did you forget everything that happened last year at the trade deadline? Like dude, McCaffrey, that was an aberration though, man. Typically the NFL trade deadline is never as big a deal as like NBA or baseball.
01:03:10
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I feel like something's going to happen though. I mean, the, the commander's got all these guys that they could potentially move chase young could get moved. I feel like somebody big is definitely going to get moved at the deadline. All right. Definitely something to keep an eye on. And if there are some big moves, we'd have to do an emergency like Tuesday night mini pod for the goal line. If we see some stuff that really kind of shakes up the landscape. Yeah, absolutely.
01:03:34
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All right, I have Mike Rivera and said, what do you guys think about this weekend's officiating? We kind of already touched on that. He's a big dolphin span, so I understand why that's front and center on his mind. Appreciate the question, Mike. Sam Rose says, has Miami proved they cannot beat a good team? I mean, I would say they could. They could still turn around and beat a strong team, but they're definitely starting to get a little bit of a reputation. Like I said earlier, they're the bullies right now. They're beating the shit out of bad teams and getting punched in the mouth when they kind of fight somebody on their level.
01:04:02
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I don't know where, where do you, what's your, what's your dolphins read after seven weeks of seeing this thing? I still think they're a really good team. Um, and you gotta remember, dude, they're getting Jalen Ramsey back at some point this season. So their defense is going to get a lot of, uh,
01:04:18
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Um, help when they get him back, they didn't have Xavier and Howard last night either. So they were playing with their third and fourth corners going up against Tyree kill in jail and waddle. That's a recipe for, or not. Sorry. AJ Brown and, uh, and Devontae Smith. That's a recipe for disaster already out of the gate. So I still think the dolphins are going to be okay. I don't, I definitely don't think they're super bowl contenders unless they get home field advantage. Like that's a team that needs home field advantage.
01:04:46
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Definitely. You know, I heard you're running down the Eagles receivers, man. What do you think about Julio signing there? It's interesting. I mean, do I think he's going to bring a whole lot to the table? No, but he'll make some plays here and there. I mean, dude, Julio's best. He was still solid for the books last year, but his best days are long behind him. I mean, oh yeah, he's not. He's not the freak that he used to be at his peak. He's arguably the best wiper. So you're an NFL history. Yeah, exactly. They did not get that.
01:05:15
Speaker
Yeah. I look like it was short, man. That's why team as much as teams complain about that Eagles QB sneak, man, if other teams can do it, they're the only ones that can get the personnel to do it. I mean, dude, when you got Jalen hurts at squats, like 700 pounds, and then you've got the best center, dude, that's the other thing we're going to have to work. We're going to hit on that at some point this season. Cause it's probably going to be his last season. Jason Kelsey is probably the best center ever. And arguably one of the best offensive lineman ever, like
01:05:41
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That dude offensive linemen don't get the love they should and especially him He's an absolutely especially the interior lineman man, like you ever occasionally you'll see the tackles get some love dude But the guards and centers they're always working in like anonymity. Yeah Alright, Sam says his Buffalo lost their chance to win a Super Bowl. I say hell no, dude You guys get George take of this one I'm still very confident my pick that when it's all said and done Buffalo is gonna be standing tall with a Lombardi trophy this year. I
01:06:06
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I mean, they're definitely approaching scary season right now. Like they lose Thursday night and I'm going to be in pure panic for the bills. Cause I don't know, man, dude, if they don't have a really good season this year with a good ending in the playoffs, I think McDermott might get canned man.
01:06:26
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Like, yeah, we saw that, you know, um, the bronc thing about the Broncos back after those first two Peyton Manning years, you know, John Fox got retired and they brought, or got, got fired and they brought Gary Kubiak went to lead into the super bowl. Uh, Tony Dungy Brock party, the pick you can't throw. Uh,
01:06:44
Speaker
You know, Tony Dungy with the Bucks. We've seen that before. If a team is kind of right on the hump for a few years in a row, we've seen teams get rid of them and try to go for the coach that they think can get them to the Super Bowl. So that's not unheard of, man. I don't know what coach is out there that they would move on to. Typically, when that's been done, there's already a big name or somebody in mind.
01:07:04
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Um, but yeah, I wouldn't put it out of realm of possibility if the bills have a less than impressive play. I don't think it's super bowl or bust, but if they have a playoff run similar to last season, I could totally see him being gone. Yeah, I agree. Like I just, I mean, dude, they have just, the last three years, they've just blown their chance every single year. So yeah, I don't, I don't have good feelings for McDermott if they don't do it this year. So.
01:07:31
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All right, and last question.
The Art of Sports Action Figures
01:07:33
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Why do you think sports action figures cannot be successful? I would say they can be successful. It just takes the right execution, man. There was a lot of hype for the starting lineup series coming back, and then they ended up being underwhelming just because the figures were a little bit lackluster. They were missing the tattoos, and the price went super high. So I think sports figures could be successful.
01:07:54
Speaker
I thought the McFarland line was fairly successful. Back in the days, starting lineups were huge, but it's been a while since somebody's really nailed the execution on them. What's your thoughts? Yeah, it's a, it's really tough. The other thing is too, like Funko has shown like sports, sports figures are tough to churn out because here's the thing, man, for every Joey Bosa or Nick Bosa or whatever, you're going to get a player from a bad team and nobody's going to buy that other than that team. Like,
01:08:24
Speaker
It's not like wrestling figures where everybody buys everybody like sports are way different because I mean, some people just aren't going to get bought. That's just the nature of the game. You know, it's part of it.
01:08:37
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Yeah, it's never a thing where you feel like you got to get them all. I mean, that was, I think some of the success on starting lineup back in the day, they went deep on individual teams, right? Like you could have, like, I remember my, my uncle was big into him and he was a big Oakland A's fan. This is back in like the bash brothers days. And I remember he had this like display thing and he had the entire, um, starting lineup for the Oakland A's, like every single figure, like every position on the baseball team. And the expectations were a lot lower back then. So like, if you look at them, a lot of those guys look pretty dang similar, right? Like sometimes like the,
01:09:07
Speaker
the skin tone and like the facial hair and hairstyle was really the only ways you could tell the players apart. So I think that was something they had working in their favor. But yeah, I think they could totally work. It just takes somebody kind of nail on the formula. Yeah, I agree. Maybe like a made to order type thing. You know what I mean? Like we've seen on like Mattel Creations, some sites like that could work.
01:09:27
Speaker
Yeah, because that's the only way it's going to work because, yeah, I mean, some players are just going to sit like they're just not going to sell. So. And there's some markets like, you know what I mean? The, I'd taste up the most diehard, you know, the biggest star of the Titans had to have, you know, like a Derek Henry figure. It's not going to sell as much as like the biggest star for a team like the Packers, right? Like, cause that fan base
Engaging with Listeners on Social Media
01:09:49
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is just so much more passionate and ready to gobble up, you know, any,
01:09:51
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and emerge for their teams. Yeah, it is. It is a lot trickier than something like a wrestling or, you know, Star Wars or Marvel or something like that. Yeah. Um, that's a wrap for this week's episode. Jordan, remind the listeners where they can find us on social media. You can find us at Twitter X goal underscore line underscore pod. And then you can find us on Instagram at the goal line football show. And also I wanted to say, if you have any questions that you want us to answer,
01:10:18
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on here, you can message me on either one of those and I'll make sure we get them answered because we don't want this to just strictly be a thing where the only people that can ask questions are people that are in the Chick Foley show group. So if you've got questions, just send them over to me and we'll answer them on the show. We have no problem answering anybody's questions.
01:10:38
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Yeah, reach out text
Live Commentary: Vikings Game
01:10:39
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social media DMS Messenger pigeon a fax. Anyways, you guys get it to us. We'll make sure your question gets answered That's a wrap man. Predict the final score Jordan the Vikings are up 22 17 with three minutes left What's the final count gonna be on this game, dude? What is going on with the Niner? Oh shit, dude, Fred Warner just got hurt. Oh Boy
01:11:03
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the Niners defense does not look good, man. They're, they're getting chewed up by a team that doesn't have their best player. Like it's pretty surprising. Um, so what's, what's your, what's your Vikings end up running out the clock and it's just 22 to 17, man. I
Final Thoughts and Farewell
01:11:17
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think they, they get another first down and I think they run out the clock and it ends 22 17. Sadly, I think I agree with you, man. Uh, hit us with some closing thoughts and we'll get out of here. Refs get the fuck out of the way and just let us watch the teams play. That's what we're here to watch.
01:11:34
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Busted.
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01:12:16
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