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S3 Ep222: Gaming in August 2022
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Join Dave and Jake as they talk about medical drugs, food, LAN party, Nexus Mod's decision on the pride flag mod, Diablo IV's monetization, Multiversus, Kojima's upcoming podcast, and even more in this week's episode!
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Introduction and Casual Banter
00:00:51
Speaker
How's it going, everyone? Welcome to another episode of Soapstone. My name is Jake, and I'm joined by my co-host, as always, Dave. How's it going tonight, Dave? It's going pretty, pretty well. Pretty well. Pretty well? Pretty well. Beautiful water reservoir. Yeah. I'm trying to get an egg, you know what I'm saying?
00:01:14
Speaker
let down my bucket yeah that does uh that sounds weird now it does sound weird it's because of my intonation in the sentence really yeah i think that's that's mostly it roll it down my bucket doesn't sound so bad now no you know what else doesn't sound bad um
00:01:36
Speaker
Sure. I'll just continue with it.
Delicious Food Segment
00:01:40
Speaker
He's got something in the chambers. Let's go. Well, usually we sometimes you talk about food when we start off and, um, this isn't going to be about food that I made because no one wants to hear about that. They'll tell us to stop talking about food. Uh, but, uh, there's a local, it's there's enough in the East coast. It's fine. Wise, um, has these lemon cakes, like little lemon bread slices, not little, they're actually pretty thick.
00:02:07
Speaker
Let me pick some of those up very recently and they are delicious. Jig's currently eating one now. Um, I'm impressed. That's not picking up actually. Uh-huh. Yeah. It might just sound like I'm sort of congested, but it's lemon bread. It's always lemon bread. I did see you touching your sinuses earlier. Is that where it got? Yeah, no, I think that's, that's separate because I've kind of been congested for the last year, but, um,
Health and Medical Expenses
00:02:35
Speaker
Well, we'll work on it. I'm going to set up an appointment. Okay. And you're like, for the last year, I'm like, that's long for anything. Usually I'd see a doctor after four hours of anything. Like did actually go to a doctor and the doctor was like, Hey, well, first thing was just like allergens, right? Maybe it's an allergen thing. Do steroids. They didn't prescribe anything. They just said do steroids. So I went on Amazon. I'm just kidding. They did.
00:03:03
Speaker
prescribed things, but it didn't really help. I came back and he's like, well, it could just be an airflow problem. We could do surgery. And I was like that. What's, what's the cause of this? And he's like, surgery, we could absolutely do it. Just, you know, let me know whenever I was like, yeah, but like, is there like a thing that he's like surgery? Like I'm gonna, I'll let you know back on that one. Yeah. So like a year has passed and.
00:03:32
Speaker
being the medical doctors that we are, started to look up some other symptoms and things like that. And it might be something else kind of going on with my nose. So we'll get a second opinion, having moved away from the previous doctor out of spite.
00:03:47
Speaker
Yeah, I don't like when doctors like, hey, you need this thing. And you're like, can you go to more detail? They're like, I will solve the thing. And you're like, OK. And then you're trying to get more information about it. I mean, I'm sure they would tell you like the high level of some stuff, but then trying to find out like the cost of it, what insurance is going to cover. Yeah.
00:04:13
Speaker
He might've been right. It could've just been a surgery. Maybe that would actually resolve it. But the weird thing to me, this is what I can't wrap my mind around, able to breathe fine, wake up, not able to breathe nearly as well. And I was like, what does surgery do? I don't know. I don't know.
00:04:34
Speaker
There's just something that's hanging in the back of your sinuses that when you know you're 90 degrees, um, it opens up. It could be that when you stand up and you're vertical, it's like blocking stuff. Hmm. See, if you would have explained it like that, see now that's plausible. You can tell me any way to treat it now. It's the Jewish background that gives me this authority to make doctor claims. Right. Because of the Jewish people's proclivity.
00:05:04
Speaker
to go to higher education and achieve doctorates and things like that. Actually, it's it's based on it wasn't a well sought after job at the time. And Jews always having the right social standing to they have essentially were like, if nobody else wants to do this, I guess we're kind of forced to do this. So it's considered like a low tier, your people suck job. And then later, like they started getting paid and other stuff.
00:05:35
Speaker
Now there's conspiracy about lasers. There usually is. Speaking of lasers, I actually have a doctor who wants me to get lasered in the eyes. Oh, just blind you, honey. He's like, it's a lost cause. He's like, we have this red dot laser. You know, the type of stuff you have like dogs changed because they're stupid. You should pay us a lot of money and we'll flash this in your eye.
00:06:04
Speaker
Yeah, something like that. And they're like, oh, this is good for this. I'm like, yeah, I'm getting my eyes lasered. Sounds cool. I'm already in. But I want to know from an insurance standpoint, how much is going to fuck me in the ass? Because anytime you're like, oh, insurance will cover it. I'm now getting a claim from something from months ago.
00:06:26
Speaker
where they're like, yeah, it's good. And now they're like, it's not good. I'm like, well, what the fuck is it? Give me an explanation of benefits. Tell me the exact details. And I had to call my insurance today. They gave me like kind of like a, we'll cover this much roughly. But that would be for what the procedure is. Like, oh, how much the procedure cost? Like, oh, you're going to have to call the doctor. I'm like, fucking A. So I go and call the doctor saying, hey, how much is this?
00:06:54
Speaker
And then I got a rough number and like the phone was very like it was breaking up very bad connection. But they're like, well, that's for just for the procedure. That doesn't include like, you know, the facility costs and, you know, the anesthetic stuff. I'm like, OK, do you have those numbers? Like, oh, you're going to have to call so and so. So apparently this is just they send the bill around town like, hey, do you want to charge Dave for anything? Just like fucking throw it on there. He'll find out later. Right.
00:07:21
Speaker
It's a pizza cost for the intern while they sat and watched the procedure happen for training. Okay. I'm just imagining. It's just like, do you guys want lunch, like a lunch break at the office at this medical facility?
00:07:36
Speaker
And they're just like, Oh, I don't know. And it's just like, we got a guy in the chair and they're like, yay. They quietly like reveal my credit card. They slipped from my pocket while I'm unconscious or whatever. Oh my gosh. Yeah. So yeah. Anything medical, super fun and really chill. And I love it. It's great. No, it's, it's not that, not that at all. There is one is great.
00:08:05
Speaker
Are we actually going to start talking about video games? Oh, I was going to talk about a food thing, because I didn't get a chance. OK, we can go back to food thing. Then I'm going to jump back to medical for a second.
00:08:14
Speaker
All right. I don't want you to get the taste of medical out of your mouth. Swish that around to the back left like you're chewing on it. I don't know why I said swish and chew. When the dentist tells you to swish and chew, something is wrong.
Daily Food Choices and Surprises
00:08:30
Speaker
Keep the stew in your mouth and pay attention. I just have a mental image of just the dentist and they spray some water in the mouth and then they just start packing big league chewing.
00:08:44
Speaker
Is this part of the procedure? Yeah, yeah. You sure you're not just into this? No. I'm trying not to go on like a whole dental tirade as well.
00:08:56
Speaker
But for food stuff today, I was like, Oh, what do I have in the fridge? Like, ah, I can eat that stuff tomorrow. The leftovers will keep. And I kind of want to go back to the Thai place. So I called over like, Hey, can I come pick up something? So I got two things, two meals, a pad siu and which is like big thick fucking noodles. So thick you're like, Oh, this is like the template they use before they cut out the actual noodle shapes. Like it's just sheet noodle.
00:09:23
Speaker
Jeez. Okay. It's thick, but like the sauce is nice. It's got some chickens, got some eggs, got some broccoli. Very nice. And then I also got some green curry. So I had one for lunch and one for dinner.
00:09:37
Speaker
And I still have like a little fried egg roll leftover because they like gave me one with the pad siu in the container and I could see it. I'm like, okay, cool bonus. I'll eat that. Thank you. And then I put the other meal in the fridge without looking at anything. I then go to open the rice for the green curry and there's now a very not crispy egg roll. Oh no. Yeah. I feel deceived, but also I never expected it. So I guess it's kind of a bonus.
00:10:07
Speaker
You're surprised, but not happily so. You're just disappointed. I'm not angry. Oh, I found a donut. Oh, like a nice fresh donut? No. It's very stale.
00:10:26
Speaker
Oh, that's fair. Um, what was your medical thing?
Prescription Costs and Alternatives
00:10:30
Speaker
My medical thing was, um, uh, just natural, normal indignation about like prescription costs and things like that. We were doing, um, so you just recently got like a Sam's club membership. And yeah, I mean, it's Walmart's not great, but they have, um, drugs. You can get drugs there. Um, the kind of that are legal actually. And.
00:10:56
Speaker
Uh, they're cheaper in a lot of ways. So one, um, you need prescriptions for them, but you can't use insurance. Insurance is out. Right. So, okay. That's kind of weird. Um, and there's the website cost plus drugs by Mark Cuban site. And like same deal, you know, you.
00:11:19
Speaker
need a prescription, but they are, you can't use insurance. You're like, all right, what's the point of all of this? It's literally cheaper. It literally costs less money than to go to a pharmacy and use insurance for so many of these drugs. And like my wife is on a lot of medication because of lupus.
00:11:41
Speaker
Like we made a sheet of where would be the cheapest place to get these drugs. And cost plus is a lot of them. And Sam's club is a fair number of them and like way cheaper, like way cheaper. And going to like a pharmacy and using the insurance that you literally get through your employer, useless. Like never the best option for the drugs that you can get somewhere else.
00:12:09
Speaker
That's so fucked. Hey, everybody needs insurance to do all of these things. You have to have insurance. OK, so you have to have a job that gives you insurance. And like the insurance has to cover those specific medications. Oh, you can do something else. Oh, cool. I'm sure that will be widely advertised to everybody for them to take advantage of that, you know, further medication that they need. Mm hmm.
00:12:39
Speaker
Yeah, no, it's, it's incredibly messed up. Um, I put it all on a spreadsheet spreadsheet called medicine by daughter, which I thought was really funny. Um, and, uh, yeah, the individual pill difference, it's like oftentimes a third of the price. Um, and you know, when you're buying something that, so what was this CVS times 90, it's like $90 for this versus.
00:13:07
Speaker
Half the price to get it. It's just it's crazy and like the thing that man, this is both be the episode that's about video games, but The the thing the thing that gets me is like
00:13:22
Speaker
Why do I know about this now? Well, it's because we just started looking into it, right? Like tons of years have passed where we were just spending a lot more money than we needed to. And Mark Cuban's thing is like,
00:13:37
Speaker
He's like a billionaire. He's just some really, really rich, super fucking rich, ridiculously rich. And he's just like, Oh, what if I just like, so what he does is what was it? 15%? No. Um, I think, yeah, it costs plus drugs. It's like a fixed price where every drug is just the base price.
00:14:04
Speaker
plus 15% margin and then $5 shipping. And that's it. Just that's it for everything. And it's so much less expensive than being gouged by all of these other companies. And like, I just, man, I second your opinion, medical stuff in the US.
00:14:26
Speaker
It's literally a scam. Insurance is a scam. I would love to have somebody prove to me that it's not. So I could be like, Oh, here's the actual benefits of it. But it's just shitty and predatory from every angle that I see it.
LAN Party Planning
00:14:41
Speaker
Yeah.
00:14:42
Speaker
Now I hear what you're saying. I'm like, Oh, that's so cool. But a lot of those things, you're going to be more standard medications or like over the counter things. Certain ones are obviously definitely not over the counter. Like, Oh, I just picked this bottle of ibuprofen. You can just get it at checkout.
00:14:58
Speaker
Yeah, easy peasy. But I and other people, of course, are on like some very like specialty medications where you're like the sheer fucking if you told me the number like, hey, do you want to solve this problem? Yes. And they told me that like how much is going to cost? I'd be like, never mind that. You know, like it is insane. It's like 13000 for my thing every two. Well, I guess now it's every two months.
00:15:26
Speaker
That makes it so much better. But it's fucking insane. It's insane. Because I could never have any degree. There's nothing in my apartment collectively where I'd be like, hey, this is worth 13 grand. Nothing. It's insane.
00:15:44
Speaker
Yeah, it's the reason medical debt is the number one cause of bankruptcy in the United States. Man, this is the most depressing video game episode. I keep coming back to that, but it's like past the point, why are we dealing with it like this? I was going to say the most extreme example I had on my sheet right here was, I'm going to say this wrong, mycophenolate, mofetil, 500 milligrams.
00:16:13
Speaker
Uh, with our insurance, it's $4 and 73 cents per pill. And you get 90 at a time that costs plus it's 22 cents. Yep. That is a big difference.
00:16:34
Speaker
And what kills me is like, you could have this information, you could present it to your insurance, say like, Hey, I mean, this is like the rate I'm getting over here. Can we do something about that? Or like, why is it short? And it would move literally nowhere.
00:16:49
Speaker
Yeah, like you're gonna get some lackey No, no offense to you if you're in a call center, but like they have a thing that they go through To say like oh we can't do that blah blah blah To like handle things really people are just disgruntled Mm-hmm and like the system itself is fucked. It's fucked beyond belief Right, but the thing is so many people just acquiesce to it because that's what they're used to it's how it's always been Mm-hmm
00:17:18
Speaker
And we got a transition hard now before I just start yelling at stuff. Sure. Hopefully something not resulting in the need for medical bills and legal drugs. Land Party is coming up. I actually didn't even have it on my nose. Shit. Related to video games. It's the last one I put. But I'll check it off now. Land Party. I did.
00:17:47
Speaker
So, how do you feel about LAN party?
00:17:51
Speaker
Same as always, um, I'm excited to do the land party and see a bunch of people and get my socialization and play some games and get decently not silver. Um, like Sunday is a recovery day, regardless of like what I have on Saturday. It's I'm going to need Sunday, but it's going to be a good time. And then at some point I'm going to get in my head about like social interactions and
00:18:21
Speaker
sensory overload and be like, everybody hates me. Why am I here? Like that'll that'll come in around like 10 p.m., probably. And I'm sure I won't even play that many games. They'll all break my tower anyway. Yeah, I mean, it probably the literal game playing has fallen off a little bit over the years.
00:18:45
Speaker
There's a couple improvements. So for the listeners, all of the listeners in other countries, this is an actual LAN party. This is basically the last get together sort of thing we have from a place we went to school. A lot of friends from that area, some people that have been added into the group over the years, but for the most part, enemies we like to call them. Yes. Yeah.
00:19:07
Speaker
It's our, what, bi-yearly, bi-annually, twice a year, bi-annually, which means both twice each year and once every two years because English is the worst language.
Evolution of LAN Parties
00:19:26
Speaker
But yeah, twice per year.
00:19:29
Speaker
And, you know, we used to have like a pool sometimes set up and outside things. And that's not as much a thing anymore for now. But I liked your phrasing. Which one was the pool set up? The in-ground pool? There was a set up pool and sometimes we had it. So maybe the emphasis was on the wrong terms, depending on the locale.
00:19:50
Speaker
Now, it's a more traditional land party. People bring a bunch of confections and baked goods for the show, friends of the show, Justin and Rachel, known for that. A lot of board games and alcohol, some people per take. It's a good time. Some people per give.
00:20:14
Speaker
And then some games. I think like if you went back a couple of years, we played a lot more games and now people have like kids and they kind of just like they're all wearing glasses and they stand around and like sip coffee and they have newspapers and stuff. And I'm like, what is what is this? You know, but it's funny. It's definitely changed. Like we're not constantly like binge playing certain games. There is a lot of
00:20:44
Speaker
There's just so many, so many things going on at once, but that's kind of what I like about it is I have the option to sit down and play a game with people. And then I get FOMO of like, people are playing chess and I just want to do one game and I play like three. I'm like, I hate this game. And some people are like playing smash or like a switch set up or VR. Um, it's just, there's so many cool, fun things to do. And at the same time you get to catch up with a lot of people you haven't seen in a while. Oh, we haven't had an in-person in about two and a half years.
00:21:15
Speaker
Well, sorry, maybe about two years. I missed the last one because I was fucking dead. I got a sinus infection like two days before and I called in. It was really sweet, but it was unfortunate to miss, but it's going to be good to be back in person. Yeah.
00:21:32
Speaker
And you're pretty close this time. Are you actually are you staying at the locale or somewhere nearby or you're actually just going to be like, I'm just going to I was going to go back sober up and drive home. Yeah, because I can't I can't sleep on the floor ever again. And I didn't want to like pay for a hotel. Yeah.
00:21:56
Speaker
And I would say to somebody else like, Hey, you guys are having a hotel. Can I just like, you know, hang out? Like technically if they did get like two, like a double queen, I could just be on the foot of the other one or something. Yeah. People are adults and I want to impose versus just being responsible. You have to do the opposite. What you do is you're like, Hey,
00:22:18
Speaker
Rather than sleeping at the venue, you want to sleep on my floor. And then you just show them pictures of your nice carpet. Yeah, I don't know what our plan is exactly. We're far enough that it could go either way. It's like, yeah, you guys have a bit more of a drive. Like you're not going to be.
00:22:42
Speaker
Shitface like you couldn't get back. Yeah, but depending how late you guys are staying in the evening because usually I guess is a a 24-hour thing
00:22:53
Speaker
So, I mean, a lot of people will fall asleep because, dear God, how could you not? But in the morning, we'll still hang out. We'll have breakfast or something, play a morning game, and then start to pack up and whatever. Yeah. Exactly. If you guys haven't already booked a hotel, I don't know what the availability is. Yeah. I probably wouldn't have gone for a hotel anyways. It would have been either.
00:23:19
Speaker
sleep there like renewed air mattress type situation when we buy another one which will be good for exactly one land party before and explicitly it's more whole than nut um tell you what if you guys want to drive me back you're welcome to crash here
00:23:38
Speaker
There you go. There you go. So yeah, we'll figure that out or just drive back. Either way works. The trick is going to be, one of the things that helps you wake up early enough to actually pull yourself out of bed and make some coffee and eat a muffin or something and play a video game is the generalized discomfort of LAN. And my concern is that if I drive 40 minutes out and I'm just like, wow,
00:24:07
Speaker
I love my bed. I'm just gonna like sleep until I need to come in to pick up my computer and see them in six months.
00:24:15
Speaker
Haha, right. Just ask, say, tell other people they can take the computer. So I don't need to come back. I'm like, ah, that's funny. Delete everything off the hard drive. Go to the browser history. Just burn it, honestly. Just burn it. Yeah. What are you most excited for about LAN or what are some highlights for you year to year? I mean, I've been a traditionalist in that I do like the games.
00:24:42
Speaker
Um, but I have found that like, those aren't necessarily the most memorable times. It's hard for me to pick out like a specific moment. Like, Oh, remember then that video game where we did this thing and that was land party. Um, it's been more conversations with people. They're just like hanging out. Um, so I get it. I get why the game's around the decline. I think the, uh, the historical moment when games really just started dropping out. So when we stopped playing call of duty.
00:25:11
Speaker
Because we used to have that local install. And everybody played Call of Duty. And now it's like, everybody played gun game. It's not a thing anymore.
00:25:18
Speaker
But, uh, yeah, definitely the interactions with people, um, get to continue the living meme of bringing beneath nexus every time. And maybe we'll play it once or twice, you know, if not, that's fine. That's not what it's there for. I, I could play it once, but like, there's so many other things I guess I'd rather do. That's fair. Yeah. It's surprisingly, um, the fact that it's one that you can just get in quickly.
00:25:48
Speaker
is basically the only thing that redeems it, right? It's fun to play and you don't have to spend a lot of time learning how to play and it takes like no setup time. And then there's all of these other games that we'll never see play because they don't have all of those criteria, right? But it's good.
00:26:08
Speaker
Um, also, I know I've said before, but now is the time that I can actually enforce it for when it starts. It's going to be on a Saturday market will be open Saturday. I'm legitimately, that's fair. Like a whole bundle empanadas. So people go there.
00:26:35
Speaker
I mean, you'll find a way, but life finds a way to be late. I mean, there's going to be other good food options there, but it's just nice to have like, it's like our adult weekend of like, I shouldn't say weekend. Like it's that long, but it's our, Oh, we can do whatever. Yeah. Cause you're just eating, drinking, socializing with friends. And so it's just on all around good time. Yeah.
00:27:02
Speaker
I'm looking forward to it, and like you said, it's going to be one of the few bigger get-togethers since the before times.
00:27:13
Speaker
I think it'll be good. I mean, the only bigger get togethers we have are weddings and those are. Nobody cares. Those are about done. I got a September, I got an October, and then I don't think anybody else is getting married ever. Yeah. I don't know who, I'm aware of one of those weddings. The other one I don't know. You don't know that one. Don't know the other one. Okay. I've been excluded from weddings before. Not sure. Invites my high school friends.
00:27:42
Speaker
Yeah, the other one was like yours and you didn't invite me or something. You're like, oh no, I mean, like I do need to be involved in this. Yeah. You know that, uh, the girlfriend you've never met slash fiance you've never met. Yeah. Yeah.
00:27:59
Speaker
But yeah, my party should be fun. I think it's good. Um, and I want to try to help out more in like coordination stuff and discord and things like that going forward. Cause we got a bunch of people together, uh, to help do moderation stuff, set up channels, organize games. And, um, yeah, I mean, I want to make sure that this goes until the day I die. So.
00:28:23
Speaker
Gotta get involved. Live the dream. No one even asked for help. We just jumped in, started doing things. They're like, please don't touch that. It's like, nope, you're getting the assistance. So what's this button do? Land party explodes. Um, but that was my first topic. What's your first topic? There's apparently going to be a fallout TV show. Question work.
Fallout TV Series Discussion
00:28:50
Speaker
I heard about that. They were doing some, some casting things.
00:28:54
Speaker
That is all the information I have. I was really hoping that you would run with it since you've played Fallout games and enjoy them. And I do not care. It's not. I don't care either. Yeah, I mean, no, I mean, I would talk about it because I just don't think it's a good idea. Right. Do you think it would be better than the Halo TV show? Probably, probably. Because they they had Master Chief talk in that one, right?
00:29:23
Speaker
That's the one thing I know about. Yeah, then it'll be better than that. But otherwise, like so Master Chief does talk, by the way.
00:29:33
Speaker
He's not a complete silent protagonist. No, they saw his face. That's what it was. They saw his face. That's what it was, yeah. But for the follow up thing. That would be so great if they didn't, though. He was completely just CGI helmet, or just full helmet. And then in interviews, I'm like, yeah, Master Chief. You're like, I guess we'll take your word for it, because how the fuck would we now? I would love if they just inverted it. They did show his face.
00:29:59
Speaker
episode one through the rest of the series. He actually just doesn't wear a helmet, but he never says anything and they put him on screen a lot of the time. That's what I want. That's what I want him to do. He's just some awkward mute in the background that everyone's afraid of.
00:30:16
Speaker
Um, kind of like doom guy, actually, I think about it. Um, but yeah, for the fallout thing, I don't even know what genre you make that show. Right? Like cause fallout is drama, drama, really. Hmm.
00:30:30
Speaker
Oh, my God. Easy peasy. Fall out shelter. Oh, the world's about to end. The shelter shelters are being set up. Oh, we're living in the shelter. There's like inner human drama because why the fuck wouldn't there be if you're locked in a box together for however long? Oh, I guess open. It's a fucking wasteland. It's like walking dead almost. Yeah. So I mean, world events, people interaction.
00:30:55
Speaker
I can see it. That would work as a show. That would be fine as a show, but that wouldn't represent the genre of the games. Now I'm talking shooter. The feeling of Fallout is tragedy mixed with humor.
00:31:12
Speaker
Right. It's like, it's the same sort of thing as borderlands. Although borderlands leans a lot more into the humor and tries to like bury the tragedy, but like absolutely terrible things happen in fallout. And you're like, that doesn't really jive with the hippin and hoppin and music that I'm listening to from the fifties. Right. Um, but like drama is more rare actually in the game.
00:31:40
Speaker
Right. But I mean, anytime they do a TV show or something, what's going to be your moment to moment thing? It's not going to be a fucking comedy. I'll say that. That would have been the best outcome, I think. But yeah, I mean, usually they want more mass appeal. So like there will be drama. Black comedy would make a great fallout. I mean, yeah, but you don't really see those too often. Hmm.
00:32:07
Speaker
No, yeah, I agree with you for the record. I think they probably will make it a drama. I just as a fan of the Fallout IP, I'm less interested in that aspect of it. Also, there's almost nothing they can do that's like going to be world building in a way that's really interesting to me.
00:32:28
Speaker
Yeah. A lot of shows like this where it's like, hey, this thing's popular. How do we make money off of it? They're like, let's make a TV show. So then they'll be like, here's the universe you guys know and love. P.S. Here's all this other stuff that you never learned about. And it's just that's how they do it. This is a very cynical take. Maybe it'll actually be good. I don't think so. But maybe it will be. But I almost wonder, like,
00:32:53
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Someone asked, a producer asked like, Hey, what was the last thing we did with the fallout IP? And they're like, fallout 76. We've learned a lot of lessons. Don't worry about it. And the producer interrupts someone's like, do something worse and like, doesn't explain themselves. They just leave. And they're like, I guess it has to be a TV show. Right? Like, what else are we going to do? So then people look back at same-sex, you're like, I mean, it wasn't that bad. Right. It's revisionist history.
00:33:20
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boost the games outlook by making other media possibly yeah could be
00:33:29
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But I also haven't really kept up with other shows like the Lord of the Rings, Rings of Power. Yeah. Watch the trailer for it. Watch the trailer for it. What they're doing with Game of Thrones now. Nobody cares about that one. I'm curious enough to know how it turned out. Someone's like, it's shit. I'm like, yep, checks out. Someone's like, it's actually really good. I'd maybe watch an episode and make my own judgment on it. But I don't have the initial interest of, I want to see that.
00:33:58
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I think, so I actually, I saw the trailer for Rings of Power on YouTube.
00:34:03
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and read some of the comments on it. So that's where most of my, this is where my impressions of the community's response to Rings of Power comes from. But they were mostly, mostly Morbius memes and things like that in that vein, they were making fun of the dialogue a lot. And I kind of got it because like JRR Tolkien, it's kind of hard to say,
00:34:29
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had really paced, meaningful dialogue. People sounded really smart in Middle Earth, and it seemed a little bit more campy, heroic, superhero-y in the exchanges in the trailer, at least.
00:34:48
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carried a little bit less weight. Gee, no way. Right. But again, like you're talking about taking something that was a book and he had like the time to pace out all things he wanted to versus a TV show, which is you're guaranteed the one season that you got told you could make. You're not necessarily guaranteed for another season. So it's how do we do stuff in universe to keep a general audience interest? Like it's not for specifically only
00:35:15
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people who grew up reading the books or like with the films, it's, hey, this is a cool IP a lot of people like. What can we do with it? So certain things need to have more. I hate to use the term broad appeal. Yeah. 1920s joke. But like.
00:35:35
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If somebody is not familiar with Florida the Rings at all, it's like, Hey, this looks like an interesting TV show. High fantasy. Let me check it out. Is it going to be, are they going to be interested in it? You know, I think you gotta, you gotta be careful of that line though. Cause if you're like a hardcore fan, you don't want to be, want to be broadsided by like a bunch of random crap that they threw into the show.
00:35:55
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Oh no, definitely not. Or make it feel like it's not being true to your recollection of the series. You don't want to piss off the super fans. That's basically what you don't want to do in any situation. And Lord of the Rings has the most super fanny fans around. Super fanny. I like that.
00:36:18
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You would, Buttman. I mean, obviously, like, there's what they should do versus what they're going to do. Yeah. And even like with, did you guys watch Sandman? Not yet. I'm sure I've asked you this multiple times in three weeks. I think it's on our number number one spot right now. OK. We're watching it. Yeah.
00:36:37
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So certain parts of it, I only think I read the first or second chapters or books of the graphic novel. So I saw certain things they had in the show. I'm like, oh, that's coming from here. And some other stuff, maybe not as much, or I couldn't tell specifically. I enjoyed watching the show. But also, I felt like there were definitely some points where it was, this is kind of just, hey, here's this in-universe thing.
00:37:05
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But it could have been anywhere else. It didn't necessarily relate to that, which I still think is symptomatic of a TV show. Right. That's fair.
00:37:17
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I guess we'll see. I'm not the most involved in TV shows normally anyways. I saw a couple outliers once I had a particular mood for it. I watched a season of The Boys. The Boys, I enjoy. I did enjoy that.
00:37:35
Speaker
video games have desensitized me to violence. That is the most thing. No, I also love the corrupted superhero trope. So, I mean, that was literally made for me. So, you know, who watches the Watchmen and things like that?
00:37:52
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Remember back when it was just like, oh, people don't trust superheroes. And it was just X-Men. And now it's like, people trust superheroes, but they shouldn't. Yes. Yeah. This is a natural cultural thing, I think, after all of the superhero overexposure in cinema recently is someone's going to someone's going to corrupt the trope to make it more novel again.
00:38:16
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I really like reading the comments. I usually see them as Reddit posts. I used to like watching The Boys, but then it got political. I'm like, you're dumb as shit. It probably wasn't.
00:38:29
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Yeah, that's what I had for like TV related things Did you see about the whole spider-man mod to remove gay pride flags from the game?
Controversial Game Mods
00:38:38
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I did I did And this one wasn't on my list, but I do remember I do remember hearing about that that That's interesting Like the whole interaction the response to it is interesting. I should say You could describe it. What happened to it for our listeners. I
00:38:56
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So I'm curious to see what you're going to say, but the initial story is in whichever Spider-Man game, there are gay pride flags as there are. I'm sure many other flags and other things. It's part of like downtown. It's just another thing on the map to like, oh, this is a lived in world. Right. And somebody made a mod to remove them. Mm hmm.
00:39:24
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Yeah, and that's that's what I know of it. So yeah, I have I have a part two for it. So that happened. It got posted on Nexus. So this this game is the Spider-Man PlayStation game released for PC. It finally came out on PC.
00:39:40
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more graphics options, things like that, 4K, whatever. And so that got posted on Nexus, which for the people who aren't familiar is the number one mod site in the world. If you modded Fallout, you modded Skyrim, stuff like that, a lot of those mods originated on Nexus, even if you got them in Workshop for Steam.
00:39:59
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And it was posted by a person who was like, this is their first post. So it's like a new account or more likely like a sock puppet account, right? And Nexus Mods, they took the mod down and they banned the person.
00:40:14
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And they were like, well, if this was someone who was established in the community and obviously not a sock puppet account, we would have still taken the mod down, but we wouldn't have banned the person. We would have just given them a warning because, hey, we get to pick what's on our site. And if your mod is literally just discriminating against a specific group, just because,
00:40:37
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Uh, we're just gonna say no, right? It's basically the refusal of service sign. Yeah. So many stores have, they're like, you, we don't say you have to put your thing on our site or you even get to put your thing on our site if we disagree with it. So they exercise that. Right. What's crazy to me is I know we've talked about modders in the past and how
00:40:58
Speaker
essential they are to like the longevity of a game and just being a part of the community and strengthening that community. But fuck this one person. Because usually somebody spends a lot of time working hard on something to make it more enjoyable or do something really cool with it. And this one person's like got so pissed off that there are gay pride flags in a game. Because like,
00:41:23
Speaker
I'm gonna remove all of them. Okay. Cool, dude. Like if it makes you that upset, seeing it in a game, don't play games. Don't go outside. Don't go on YouTube because the gays exist. Jesus. Fuck. Like there are people who I don't like. They're not the gays. Um, they're usually like, um, zealots or xenophobes, those types, you know? But like,
00:41:51
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I don't know. I don't go out of my way to be like, I can't have this here. Yeah. You're just like, they're shit people. And then you leave it at that. Are you trying to educate them or talk to them or something versus just ban hammering the whole thing? And then being like, other people agree with me, right?
00:42:10
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right yeah it's it's it's dumb i'm glad that nexus i for one and i know i'm not the only one i'm glad that nexus basically took a stance on this like sure they'll piss some people off but they're the people that they didn't want on their site anyways and
00:42:27
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Just like Twitter right if you've got like completely out there beliefs that The platform discriminates against because they're mostly lies You can make your own platform for it and you can call it truth or whatever that platform is called like It's you can also call it fuck women if you're Andrew Tate I Mean if you're actually a lot of people you can just call it fuck women but you know, I
00:42:56
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I'm not familiar with that one, but that's not gaming related. I'm going to assume it's pop culture. It is pop culture related. Pop culture, yeah. But yeah, so good on Nexus. They are justifying the $100 I gave them at one point to have a premium account forever. And I've also used way more than $100 of their bandwidth when I was downloading mods.
00:43:24
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But next one for me was for Blizzard, actually.
Diablo IV Monetization Plans
00:43:33
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Diablo IV, in particular. I read this because my phone was like, hey, this would be good on your podcast. I was like, that's concerning. But I read it, and I didn't actually. It was just recommended gaming news. Oh, OK.
00:43:50
Speaker
It was an article talking about Blizzard's monetization scheme and they're like based off a recent blog post and I was like, cool. So I clicked the blog post rather than reading the article and they were talking about how they're going to monetize Diablo 4. So the last news I heard was they were going to have like Real Money Auction House.
00:44:07
Speaker
and all this other stuff. And I don't know if that was a misunderstanding or Blizzard just is doing that thing that they do where they lie or just tell you information that changes later. But the current monetization scheme for Diablo 4 is you buy the game and there will be the free slash premium battle passes.
00:44:30
Speaker
But the premium part is going to be only for cosmetics and premium currency that can be used to buy cosmetics. You can get like bonus experience kind of boosts on the battle pass, but it's always going to be on the free side. They are making a very explicit line that the paid stuff is always going to be if you want to look prettier.
00:44:50
Speaker
or you want more transmogs for your weapons and stuff. And there's going to be a lot of transmogs that are in the free set. I don't know the quality differential between the other between those two. But what is your take on that? Fuck Blizzard, they can suck my dick. OK.
00:45:11
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It's definitely more of a positive to split it out so you're not kneecapping. People are playing free content. I guess this is kind of like what Path of the Exile's current model is because the game is free, 100%. You can do whatever, play whatever. There's no expansion passes, no season passes, none of that shit. But everything that's cosmetic and oh boy, there are a lot.
00:45:33
Speaker
Did you want to cosmetic for your footprints? When do you walk? Do you want to change how your character looks? Do you want to change how your spells look? Do you want to change your TP portal? Do you want to change something in your base? Like there's an option for fucking everything. It's insane. Yes. And they really do push it a good amount. But again, it is optional, which is a better way to approach it because people who are really invested in and care about it and want to chill out that money can versus somebody who just wants to play the game. Maybe they grew up playing Diablo.
00:46:03
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and they don't want to be forced into that or feel like they're missing out on actual content. But also fuck Blizzard, they can suck my dick. That's fair.
00:46:12
Speaker
I don't feel as strongly, but I'm happier in this direction than the previous when I was concerned about the real money auction house. I do have generalized concerns for the monetization scheme that they're preferring because this is basically
00:46:33
Speaker
This is like Diablo Immortal. It's very close to Diablo Immortal, but with the massive caveat that you're not getting actual power-ups on the paid Battle Pass. So like the paid track of the Battle Pass, I should say. And this is very similar to what they've been talking about for Overwatch.
00:46:52
Speaker
And they must have just found the numbers somewhere. They're like, we will be sued too many times if we continue to loot boxes. Battle passes are the way they're joining Destiny. They're joining all the Apex Legends. They're joining freaking Fortnite. Like everybody has about Dota. Everybody has a battle pass to some extent. And I guess this is just the way they're going to lock it in, which is not my least favorite monetization scheme.
00:47:21
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Um, that's me talking specifically about the monetization side. Um, not necessarily the game itself or behavioral practices of the company. I mean, I'm sure it will be
00:47:35
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comparable to other stuff, but just in a better engine. Because I have seen the trailers. They do look fucking good. I did grow up on Diablo. So trailers always look good. A soft spot there. That's true. The Blizzard trailers and animations were always the thing. I was always like, go back and play Warcraft 3. Look at in game. Now try and guess what the cinematics are going to look like. You never fucking would. It is so wildly different.
00:48:05
Speaker
But outside of that, I don't know. I'm still in like the very similar boat where it's just, I've had enough of their shit. That's fair. But I am glad to hear if they are headed in a better direction. Yeah.
00:48:21
Speaker
Yeah, same for me. I don't know if Diablo 4 is going to be like a quick buy for me or not but I do want to, I want more of these updates. I want to see what they're actually doing to appease, not just appease but embrace the core Diablo fanbase and say like,
00:48:37
Speaker
immortal immortal was just that was just our cash grab right like those were just for the people with phones we understand we understand you we understand you guys don't have phones you have computers and that's what we're gonna build this point right like that's that's what I need them to embrace because yeah
00:48:56
Speaker
They need to be successful with some of their core enemies, or they're just not a company anymore. That being said, like, business side put on business hat for a second, a depressingly large share of their money is literally just mobile games. It's something, it's over 80% of the money they bring in is just from their mobile games division. And most of it isn't Diablo Immortal, it's from King, but Diablo Immortal made them a lot of money.
00:49:28
Speaker
capitalism. I don't know. I think people who play gacha games are friends of the show. Okay. So this isn't advice that I particularly have. I mean, I've definitely been drunk and like bots and stuff on games that I didn't need. And make more bracelets. I've been there.
00:49:51
Speaker
Yeah, it happens. But like, if someone's like, oh, I'm just gonna play this gacha game, it's free, you know, I'm not gonna get sucked in. They're like, Oh, I got sucked in. Part of that is it is designed to do that to you. Yeah. But also, if you know that going in, it's like, at what point is it your fault? And you've made a poor decision.
00:50:11
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Yeah, I mean, it depends on the individual, right? There's some people who literally just don't have that impulse control, and that's the reason that we kind of have to take an eye to gotcha games and say, should these be regulated like gambling is? Because you could take somebody who otherwise has a functional life, and you put a scratch off card in their hand, and they will lose all of their money.
00:50:35
Speaker
Right. Like those people exist and it's basically impossible to divide the line between here's a reasonable otherwise reasonable person who is temporarily acting unreasonable or making unreasonable decisions in the moment. And someone who just doesn't have the impulse control in this particular thing to dial back. So unfortunately, that's where all of the money comes from. For these mobile games are people who dump tons, tons of money into them.
00:51:05
Speaker
So it's, it makes me sad. Yeah. But if I can comment on another piece of news, something that shouldn't make you sad. I know you love the game. You know, I love the game.
Community Resurgence of Games
00:51:20
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Um, it evolve.
00:51:23
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I had its server shut off a while ago. Dave's like, I'm just going to leave. Evolve that game I've never played. But you should have, because it was actually really good. So your asymmetrical hunters versus monster game. Not going to go into depth on it. But Evolve Stage 2 was their free to play launch. And some time passed. And 2K has not been doing the best. And the server shut off.
00:51:52
Speaker
This news article isn't about that. Nobody knew that the server shut off because no one played the game. The servers apparently got turned back on when like a network engineer fixed a bug or something. So out of nowhere, the game comes back on and everyone who owns it can play it. And the community is like,
00:52:12
Speaker
This is actually kind of fun. So it took off, like a bunch of people started playing it and a petition went out there to make it, to ask 2K to literally relist it on Steam. Cause you cannot like get the game right now. I guess, yeah, like you can't download it. So I thought that was funny. Usually you don't get like a heartbeat dramatically as though this were a movie.
00:52:40
Speaker
After like they flatline and that's what happened for evolve. I like the idea of like a community is just like, we enjoy this. Please keep this up. Don't take this away from us. And they're like, you can never play well classic. Uh-huh. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, do you have any other news bites? If not, I've got five. I feel like you're not checking my messages in chat. Um, wait, do you have chat?
00:53:11
Speaker
What did you get? Oh, my gosh. So we recently had a chance to try out multiverses. Yeah. And it was a very brief experience, but it was as I initially thought. It felt to me very janky. I did not enjoy it that much. Again, I'm very much expecting a smash experience versus a.
00:53:34
Speaker
my little 10-year-old cousin wants to play a game that has LeBron James in it type experience. What were your thoughts on our brief time with multiverses with some people? Well, I can answer with the headline from the news article I had picked for multiverses for this month, which was multiverses nerfs Iron Giant because he's dominating with abnormally high win rates at every skill level. That's how I felt about the game.
00:54:00
Speaker
No, it felt floaty and I wasn't a huge fan of the float. I didn't play it again after we tried it. If people enjoy it and they have fun with it, awesome. More power to you, honestly. If you haven't played other games to the point where this one feels that weird,
00:54:22
Speaker
Great, I'm sure it's good for it. And I kind of wish that there was the fact that it's like their main mode is the 2v2 kind of like class based mode. Like that's so weird in a fighting game. So props to doing something else, which I barely ever see in, you know, AAA games. So I guess it's got Morty in it. Yeah. Yeah.
00:54:51
Speaker
Yeah, but I don't I don't think I want to play it though Again, not trying to like poop on somebody's parade, but I just wish that some of the things as far as the menu and the options and like accessibility Existed it's like hey, I want to play with like a lobby. It's just like me and two other friends Not a fucking option. Yeah, and that is insane when like it exists everywhere else Nobody suggested for lane
00:55:18
Speaker
Weird. That's the real judgment. I didn't put Smash on there either, weird. I just feel like I'm going to play anyway. Now the true test will be getting me before I'm too drunk, Jake, otherwise you'll just have very hollow victories.
00:55:35
Speaker
I don't know. I don't know if there's like a balmish peak or what. I think if you're outright sober on a lot of matchups, you do win a lot. But I'm not entirely convinced that it debilitates you as much as you claim for some of the other characters. I grew up watching Jackie Chan's Drunken Master and I've taken it to heart.
00:55:59
Speaker
um this news is boring i don't care about that one uh here is oh yeah this one was funny actually uh this is an article i've referenced it a couple times in discord but you know in case you didn't hear me reference it in discord uh the title this was a yahoo finance article which is you know that's where i get most of my news uh microsoft negs activision blizzard to push through 6.8 points
00:56:26
Speaker
68.7 billion dollar acquisition, which also really funny that that's not 69 billion dollars. They literally use the decimal place. But yes, I'm just going to quote this directly. In a recent filing spotted by Rock Paper Shotgun,
00:56:41
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The company told New Zealand's commerce commission that the troubled publisher produces no must-have games. Yes, you read that right. There is nothing unique
Microsoft-Activision Acquisition
00:56:50
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about the video games developed and published by Activision Blizzard that is a must-have for rival PC and console video game distributors that give rise to a foreclosure concern.
00:57:01
Speaker
The context is they're trying to push it through all these regulatory organizations and all of these companies, including the US, to make sure it passes antitrust and that the merger can actually happen. It's just hilarious to be like, yeah, those guys that we're going to be paying their salary, nothing they really make matters. There's nothing really there.
00:57:28
Speaker
Honestly, we're not even sure what we're buying this company. It's like bringing home somebody to like meet your parents. Like you don't kind of worry about them. They're kind of like a dumb piece of shit. Uh-huh. We're not going to be dating that long probably anyways, whatever, you know. Yeah. I just, I, I usually don't talk as much about the dry articles, but that headline and that actual direct quote, just its choice.
00:57:55
Speaker
This is how you know we're living in a simulation or basically cyberpunk where maybe megacorporations rule everything. It is. All right. I was going to say Orgo. OK. Did you watch anything for Gamescom? I didn't actually. Anything good?
00:58:13
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So there were like a lot of games listed as far as, Hey, these are going to be upcoming, blah, blah, blah. Kind of like a, an E3 type. Yeah. The two that have my interest. I want to see more about the one is Callisto protocol.
00:58:27
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which is going to be in the vein of a Dead Space type. And then Lords of the Fallen, which just looks badass, but it's only been cinematic so far. No actual gameplay shown. They also did have something for Lies of P, but again, until I see like the final cut, I don't know.
00:58:49
Speaker
Right. I think I did see like an article on Lords of the Fallen. It's like Lords of the Fallen 2 renamed to Lords of the Fallen. Didn't click it. No idea what that context is. I'm not here to actually tell the viewers anything new, but it's a cool sounding name. Watch some shows on YouTube when you get a chance guys. Yeah, we're just here. We're just here so you get so frustrated about what we don't talk about. You look it up yourself. This is how we spread true information.
00:59:18
Speaker
Um, I've got two more, so we're working our way through it. Bunch of personal discord interest in returning to D two.
00:59:29
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Not Diablo 2, Destiny 2. Um, I personally have not launched the game, but I did pick up, you know, as the, the expansion to two expansions on green man gaming, and we'll probably be rejoining the fire team, uh, to try to catch up on raids and stuff like that. Have you seen this and have you any interest?
00:59:54
Speaker
Yes and no. Okay. Next topic. So I will say I did download it because right now it's like a free week. Yeah. And I launched it and played it for like 10 minutes.
01:00:09
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It is so cluttered with bullshit, but I need a social contact with people and I think this will be it. So I'm willing to pay money to do that. But you will play it. Have you seen me play TF2? Have you seen me play Overwatch? Have you seen me play this?
01:00:29
Speaker
So I do enjoy Destiny 2's gameplay. I do enjoy the raids. Those are probably the most exciting part. But everything else with it is not really my jam. But I need something to be able to talk with people about. Because nobody plays Elden Ring anymore. And I'm out of ideas.
01:00:50
Speaker
That's fair. We talked about how this year is kind of in a drought and the fact that Destiny is one of the things that's really surging to the front might be, uh, might be proof of that. I don't know. I mean, good job, Bungie. We're big fans. They did announce that they're going to stop sunsetting expansions, which is good. And I think that motivated some of our friend group to jump back in because
01:01:15
Speaker
It kind of sucks when you come back to the game. It's like, where's my guns? It's like, I ate them. You know, I ate them. Yeah, because it's a very it's an MMO and it's a very grindy one. Yeah, like.
01:01:33
Speaker
Ace of Spades or Thorn. I don't know how many fucking quests I had to do to go do that. It's like, hey, you have to go kill X things here. Oh, you have to do Crucible things. I love Crucible. Oh, you have to go do this. It's just so much stuff. You finally get the gun. You're like, that's actually pretty cool. Badass. It's your little notch. It's your achievement. You're like, hey, I spent the time and the effort to get this cool gun. This is a cool thing.
01:01:54
Speaker
I'm proud of it. And then they're like, hey, that's not around anymore. Fuck you. It's like moving back home and you find that your mom threw out everything that you had in the attic. And you're like, what? And now all your nostalgia is gone.
01:02:12
Speaker
Yeah, I think it really is the social aspect though. As someone who I do, I did enjoy the game. It's definitely elevated by the social aspects. I did a bunch of solo grinding. I had a PowerShell script that made it so I couldn't connect to other people.
01:02:28
Speaker
I did all of that, but the memorable times, the fun times where when we were mostly unsuccessfully clearing rates. Yeah. And the good news is Last Wish isn't even in the game anymore. So we'll be fine. I already got the woman from that anyway, so it's all good. We did clear it eventually, but.
01:02:56
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I have one more. Do you have a final one for you or two final ones, depending on which ones you want to talk about? I mean, I did a destiny two on my list briefly as that has kind of come out of the zeitgeist, but we kind of already covered it. Um,
Thymesia Game Reception
01:03:12
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pretty recently. I'm Asia released. Not going to be able to spell that.
01:03:17
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T-H-Y. Dang it. Misha. Misha. But this is like a plague doctor type, souls-like. I've heard some good things about it. I've also heard it's kind of short. I hear it's a good experimental type thing. But if it had more longevity, there's not a certain type of diversity that you'd be looking for. So I might check it out at some point if it goes on sale.
01:03:43
Speaker
But if it sounds like it might be your bag and you want to give me your opinions on it, please check it out. It's currently like 25ish bucks on Steam. That's not too bad. It's pretty, pretty inexpensive. So yeah, my final piece of news coming off that is a friend of the show, longtime listener, Hideo Kojima is starting up a podcast
Hideo Kojima's Podcast Announcement
01:04:09
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Uh, it's coming out in September in English and in Japanese called brain structure. That's it. I want to check out five minutes of that. Yeah. He, uh, when he announced it, he actually like.
01:04:25
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Uh, after saying, I think when it was going to come out, he did a little self cheer and like clap. Like he was the audience applauding himself for coming out with this. And I thought it was the funniest thing ever. It's really good. It's going to be good. He's going to have somebody with him. Cause I think, uh, yes. Still a podcast, your borderline sociopath. Yeah. Uh, Jiaf Knightley from, uh, game awards, actually. Okay.
01:04:53
Speaker
Do I say that? Who do I say? Knightley? Jeff Keeley? You said Jeff Knightley. I'm like, Keira Knightley? We'll take it out. Yeah, Keira Knightley's brother. No one's ever heard of him. Jeff Keeley? Is that how you pronounce his name? Keeley. Jeff Keeley's the game awards guy, yeah. Yeah, he's the game awards. He's in Death Stranding.
01:05:16
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Everybody was though. So, I mean, is that really an accomplishment? Anyways, he's a guy. After I assume a ridiculously successful audition for Death Stranding, Kojima was like, we should do a podcast. So that's where we're at. I think it's because Jeff Keeley at the Game Award said, like, unfortunately, Kojima couldn't be here tonight. Kojima's like, that's my guy. Yeah. He's like,
01:05:40
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Actually, Jeff's right there. It's like I keep saying his name Jeff, right? Just said Jeff, Jeff. Jeff's like, he can't make it. And Kojima is just in the background. He's like, because you're making me edit the podcast. You know, we've all been there. I would love to hear you like and talk some shit on Konami beyond that. I don't know what I would do with that podcast, but I'm curious about it.
01:06:06
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Well, the way I imagine that is Jeff does and Kojima doesn't like pointedly doesn't, but Jeff's just like, ah, you know, like elbow in the side. Remember that Konami company? They do suck at what they do, don't they? That'll be fun. I'll probably give it a listen. I do listen to the occasional podcast.
01:06:39
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If you would like to listen to our podcast,
01:06:43
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Good job. Uh, if you have ideas for what we could talk about, though, you can always send those in to soapstone podcast at gmail.com, or you could join the discussion on Facebook. You don't need an account there to make, to use an Oculus quest to anymore. So I guess we probably won't get many listeners there, but facebook.com slash soapstone podcast. And as always, we'll see you in the next one after land party.
01:08:13
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