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Odc. 51 – Ten o cyfrowej nekromancji i abbataryzacji

Wycinki z Przyszłości
Wycinki z Przyszłości

369 plays · Oct 18, 2025

W najnowszym odcinku “Wycinków z przyszłości” z przyglądamy się fascynującemu zjawisku cyfrowej nieśmiertelności i awataryzacji – od wskrzeszania zmarłych aktorów w serialach po koncerty zespołów w postaci cyfrowych awatarów. Te zjawiska, które jeszcze niedawno wydawały się futurystyczne, stają się częścią naszej codzienności, pokazując jak AI przestało być już “trendem”, a stało się integralnym elementem kultury popularnej. Impulsem do nagrania tego odcinka był news o “wskrzeszeniu” Witolda Pyrkosza w serialu M jak Miłość przy pomocy AI, zarówno w formie głosowej, jak i wizualnej. Ten przypadek pokazuje, że technologia, która jeszcze niedawno była domeną eksperymentów i konferencji technologicznych, wkroczyła już do głównego nurtu rozrywki – do serialu oglądanego przez miliony Polaków. Jednocześnie osobiste doświadczenie z koncertem ABBA Voyage w Londynie, gdzie cyfrowe awatary członków zespołu tworzą niesamowite show, otwiera dyskusję o przyszłości rozrywki i granicach akceptacji publiczności. Te zjawiska prowokują pytania o nasze podejście do śmierci, nieśmiertelności i autentyczności. Z jednej strony widzimy spontaniczną “cybernekromancję” na grupach facebookowych, gdzie ludzie proszą o ożywienie zmarłych bliskich za pomocą AI, z drugiej – profesjonalne projekty jak ABBA Voyage (175 mln dolarów budżetu) czy w pełni wygenerowana gwiazda K-popu, która już podpisuje kontrakty warte miliony. Stoimy na progu nowej ery, gdzie granica między rzeczywistymi artystami a ich cyfrowymi odpowiednikami zaciera się, a my “krok po kroku budzimy się w nowej rzeczywistości” – rzeczywistości, która niesie ze sobą zarówno fascynujące możliwości, jak i nierozwiązane jeszcze dylematy etyczne i prawne. Wszystkie linki dodatkowe znajdziesz tutaj [https://wycinkizprzyszlosci.pl/2025/10/17/%f0%9f%93%9a-odc-51-ten-o-cyfrowej-nekromancji-i-abbataryzacji/]. 

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Monika Borycka: Good morning, welcome to the podcast of the future, and welcome to the Joanne Frota-Kurkowska and...

Monika real: Monika Borycka, czyli TrendRadar.

Monika Borycka: Today we will meet again, but soon soon we will be able to see us in Design topic,

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Monika real: We will talk about the to

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Monika real: We are still using AI. We are going to give you a reflex on this topic, we will talk about it with a sideguise AI. Do this way we have discussed about what will be recorded in our special edition.

Monika real: We had a deciding what will do today, because all have to a day for a day. So, we are so excited to a day, so we are so excited to a day.

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Monika Borycka: On Friday, 10th, Apteka Design Festival Conrada. I was going to say, I'm going to say, in the

Monika Borycka: Next is the sample of Sam Devil Art, which we do Max's favorite. As a great fan, Monika, you agree with me. It's also for us the headline of position of priority in the menu.

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Monika real: Yes, yes, it is and a

Monika real: kaufa mo broughtze niop your and la and

Monika Borycka: to in the best way, because it's for free. To, that I still don't have a sold out, it's my biggest thing. But we're going to go from Krakowa, Monika is still in Krakowie, I'm going to go with the wspiering warsawskie Woli.

Monika real: Thank you.

Monika Borycka: And what is today? We were talking about it with Monika, but there is one thing, which haven't talked about.

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Monika real: of change. But as a concept, we could possibly be able to treat it as a hypo trend, like I would call it.

Monika real: But what was that was, that it was just the ah rightta cave yes kimmi taru let me plot calmly to them so yeahmi and but the maulurre e it'selebraov on for

Monika Borycka: I like that you like culture and celebrity. I like that. I like that. I like that.

Monika real: butna and butagan she said via lifestyle love of mudduu pertala taing but just Because

Monika Borycka: I like that. I like that. I like that. like that. I like that.

Monika real: Exactly. And while playing series of

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Monika real: and tua and no so what a sheveda was right but actually statan newss it no wado think that if the de covanim group yeah mainstream mainstream and

Monika Borycka: But would not like watching children of these cults.

Monika real: them

Monika real: In terms the return to the presentation.

Monika real: and not and the conferenceia yamayam to slide this is hasi tonova trend toyus paigni devno present thats it but and that's too hard yeah the yeah

Monika Borycka: It's a conference season, so we encourage you to change.

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Monika Borycka: Yes, it's true.

Monika real: ah ta znitro ah and zaak muhapudobach itten also stands possible sherazawa aims It was ah the sir not a to on the other hand, there were some sort of the arrety that the scene

Monika real: azdro gitan and na perviishtakizazaz zte so

Monika real: video, not the voice, it looks like they could be difficult to Many people even prognozują that ah you

Monika Borycka: Philip K.

Monika real: i

Monika Borycka: Dick by tego nie wymyślił. Albo by wymyślił, bo to bardzo jest takie dickowskie. Ja słuchajcie, tylko wtrącę z jedną rzeczą, bo troszeczkę śledziłam sentyment dookoła zapowiedzi już.

Monika Borycka: Pal licho, co dookoła newsa, że Witold Pyrkosz will be back w serialu M jak miłość i got na na...

Monika Borycka: like kim w yesten to So,

Monika Borycka: I can't let me not take any of these vulgarism, because it's also a fanbase M jak Miłość. tell you that I'm a fanbase. like gotak you go

Monika Borycka: ah tay exitati napo e drheto williamims daniel obiche and mojani lu chana alettakiyia tacachiicava continuatia paminationaa raddi of kraku epo misu um soona ah

Monika real: Yes, in the Szymborskiej.

Monika Borycka: Tak, na respawn Wiesławy Szymborskiej i tam jakiś innych jeszcze person, do czego w końcu nie doszło.

Monika Borycka: to właśnie nie sprzedaje się tego nam, jakby ja nie posądzam ciebie Monika o

Monika Borycka: But it's very interesting, that do anything. Look at even if doesn't create any excitement or any excitement, it's just a very interesting person.

Monika Borycka: paro etochiicavaia vico

Monika real: ah type jabibu oto or bartomo now but after wasmish boers <unk> and ma vatoque movie still tall ah the grandac accepttazi ta toianian bitmo just song but have to just

Monika real: first proson in like ah sub cities but also va ina de and chicagogo totomar The fall has already been touched, we also have a few of them in a few minutes, but she is still alive. I'm trying to get into the different places of the show, like Facebook. I think that you and I are also our guilty pleasure to look at the same place in the media.

Monika Borycka: You know, it's a guilty pleasure, but I tell you that for me these questions

Monika Borycka: o żywienie zdjęć i czytanie, myślę, że może 20-15 lat temu bym to ta

Monika Borycka: ah e It is, unfortunately, my opinion, it is memory of the death. It is not a memory of the death. It not a

Monika Borycka: yeahpola sam soa pohoji paer his book postquesta he so no pra theches store absoluteol yeah ra like he started yeah yeah

Monika real: Yes, but on the other hand, they are in a a is exactly what we zabata is who i am such like should and and sha

Monika Borycka: But it's a adoption, it's not a GPT-ed-up, but Witold Pyrgosz as a miłość.

Monika real: but butmi

Monika real: Yes, I So,

Monika real: yes so ah when and yeah ah it's an oddbu room you want to deposit sin this time to make movies which most most bit aggressiveness But the other thing, people accept it.

Monika real: Something happened. went to the street and we protested against the people who were murdered by AI. numerouswiman na onlyli say any but three luive course of vian <unk> which is ai ah eat um um da ta com that this should that we can't find ourselves in reality. It's like it's a way to show us, not showing our own consequences, which can be done with the consequences.

Monika real: it's for yougo saaggo arsennao consak fani torehemo constant viianza ah eat no the The most interesting thing in the process of living in a market is to, that is a natural tool to be taken as an AI function.

Monika real: yeahco ya korea doess folks in ai ah e ah in I don't think I'm talking about protest. Don't do to a

Monika real: theres a wo but you tataling yeah ah itolia and toia dam the some of soicciica not e likesh yeah a cha advise the so to days,

Monika real: attack have some context contextual the boat for you qran or but that but that just ki couldni duha

Monika Borycka: so there is...

Monika real: um on the butrow vanim is bitam pushsher name the co ofitenion no vannem To

Monika real: No dobrze, no. yeah active fifteen fifteen

Monika Borycka: ne andna gra pu and you'd have no person hiska but

Monika real: and dos and

Monika Borycka: let's so i say yeah ya comusha page its ah but so hoji hoji oze spo to the kohambarre to the spo abuba today vi ah so to islyo ah islam of internet like butmoganra nido vira and the me yeah um black metalal ya but and monnikainviji itoria search chance star

Monika real: No, I didn't say that I was a very much fun. so likena

Monika Borycka: You said that when we talk about this, we'll sleep. So for it's a fair to that it's a fair to say. But it's something that's not new. It's not worth saying. We're talking about the voyage.

Monika Borycka: voyage which in London is already from 2022, so it has already its own show. It's a show with Avatar. It's not Avatar, but Avatar. It's important to ah uvaga is abbubavatarami ah toniso avatare abuvavatare

Monika real: So they are officially called?

Monika Borycka: vana but Yes, it's so of the concept,

Monika Borycka: and <unk>turos rivki e eat the the most history a hologram tupaca and course i live to retroche thankslon and gubu stamo and albo ah like the

Monika real: I was about to have sonnet.

Monika Borycka: Voyage, Abba Avatary przynieśli do jakiejś sali. Sale jest zbudowana od zera. It's a special terrain in London. yeah ah io zaratata sota tas salize butdovana And my much oriented. It's also nice to have such a feeling between them.

Monika Borycka: I tell you so, let me just bo version the about there fine ah thank should so sata ta ta keep version i mean this about beach ah now um talk and

Monika real: Just a dramatic pause.

Monika Borycka: wonun sepo colana itank dali tang dali superna i as suchnahied concert and heres jano more visitors chiniestsesa and takihi baner ala super pa the and on, of I was able to to some avatar a and naszi tolonivija um ah to me know and

Monika Borycka: but mind, who that they unsigned.

Monika Borycka: all the is

Monika real: I'm listening to this with a new voice. gen no

Monika Borycka: a so odu blaski saquino I just said I'm saying I'm not sure what's happening. I'm not sure what's happening. I'm going to see you that camemo mopo but bo whik taquina nopo protovaio va ka va naovvidi alive.

Monika Borycka: there team, good the And

Monika real: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

Monika Borycka: so have to back to the into the shock. But Monika, what I totally broke out of my mind is a wow. and attoas monnika so me sucha total nerovallio itto taia e kim shiwa one avatar, which the members and have small monologue. and they and people always, but listen was like, was like, like, like, was like, was was like, like, was like, was was like, was was I

Monika Borycka: Podkreślałem oklaski dla awatarów. Zespół Żywy był oklaskiwany osobno. I na końcu jeszcze wychodzą też już nagrani i zaawatarowani awatary,

Monika Borycka: but in the current age, in the century. They are advertising the concert that he 40 years old. Yes! Yes! Yes!

Monika real: But wait, are there still living stars?

Monika Borycka: ah

Monika real: In the sense that the concert is, works, and even before AI, even after Metaversum, when Metaversum was hit,

Monika Borycka: um but so but that go tos soon yeah

Monika real: but thats our but yeah but that and concert it beest function nu yeah yesterday said e a i aspu abu who just used for asmata veronag v the on va cellut and moment kid metta verobonaopia like a go hyv them tamacha The show is from 2022. It is a concert concert you

Monika real: technicality of the okawa ah isappper no imp pouion attack exist um

Monika Borycka: 175 million dollars to be clear, that's not for badan, but for gruby money and those are there

Monika real: the qua

Monika real: Yes, but there are also some of the to of intelligence. yeah One of in 2020, before the opening of the concert, was just in the studio, they were in the combination motion capture and they were doing it in order to create a show.

Monika real: ah paros suhi' avatta isovo does na only shepo caliph theyve told you all the nigrava nichef combi on amo capital irobilitytor vashni salus for jata goau

Monika Borycka: Mm-hmm.

Monika real: So it is a kind of an innovative way of being able to say that a new generation of living. It is a created of licensed clone clone, with which have a lot of problems. And we have a lot of problems. And have a lot problems.

Monika real: ahur ah studentam sheihamed so in terms of skin mum ah aug grand problem orfu pravnaky you knowwana e like like the school of harishshman naar and i say and nacoci go to chinka yakish emmosonal ne attack ah zeidaku foran colonno postachic to the z kedeon zion viha puji taivve but but but but bujiefffnagozaru vi perruen yeah then noian se beto tos be it naveta agitor

Monika real: and to the shevago trunkk ofpo withor ah Autors be a part of the and their own, and they are made for their

Monika real: ruquetroe visitta kiboum ofbuua joefvi the uam provena the pushshmir nego and a likerugetronato yes it Ożywianie przeszłości,

Monika real: vi jacob be

Monika Borycka: ah obviously, that's the element of nostalgia, of course. 100% of the agreement.

Monika real: And in the can return the band, it doesn't exist. It doesn't exist, it doesn't exist. So it's like a aspect,

Monika real: such um christian resan of yes runa cheky is just kid as a volume yeah

Monika real: aven boa marion carre alber kimist to in or on them tubi yeah ah vota and but ah dot v or to

Monika Borycka: You know, don't think I have a lot of of

Monika real: like but so that is but old beach yeah

Monika Borycka: I think that maybe Beatles, but in fact, why not? I think that's very important. The generation of the ABB is huge. I think that there were all the groups, I think that there were all the groups,

Monika Borycka: a

Monika Borycka: and So it's a little bit of a machine. The pop house is very interesting event on the market. I've also made a video of ah i nadaio ah like the but provazaio v ruru nagorozayio ah rusnagorozao actctivazia e momentia nabellin uppsscot catalogal key east long yeah Why is it not a repeatable? Again, it's an enormous budget, but it's not a Taylor Swift.

Monika Borycka: Is it a big big deal? No, I would say... ale nimanago of tyler swift taton to ja ashtaka in naelka becauseda

Monika real: um mean was agetaim sania a But but be mr goov no in

Monika Borycka: yeah yeah but good yaba suha yeah

Monika real: as chat yeahs possible standing to u ah

Monika Borycka: Okay, but not in the is

Monika real: but question yeah

Monika Borycka: I think that only estate Beatles is able to buy it on the way. <unk>co gra gra gra gra gra grao gra da com de fashion role ah tonia my opinionza mr tio estate details for hisustania vitenatokae Plus, Abba ma pokrycie hitowe, musicalowe. Two of the two great films, Mamma Mia! also made their own, or made in the the greatest hits of Abba Gold, which just fell. They made their own. And of course, are all about to do what But to which wracamy, I do which I do not want to do,

Monika Borycka: Three words, the a moment the head of the world,

Monika Borycka: votech um vonte ah the concept of creating the process of creating the Avatar.

Monika Borycka: Because it's not just motion capture in Nara. It's also worth mentioning who was responsible for the Light Magic, which is Star Wars.

Monika Borycka: George Lucas is a very famous team. ba um I think I really was able to this artist digital artist who sits there and pixel is done and pixel is done and it looks it looks like It's the model, it.

Monika Borycka: I think I should be like a influencer, think I should have to it and have percent of every single bill, but even if it doesn't like it, I should have see how it looks like of the other of the future, of the event. It is amazing.

Monika Borycka: from a roevvky event to ro toy

Monika real: And

Monika Borycka: yeah some of it

Monika real: <unk>tave forannotaki

Monika Borycka: I'm not saying Tupac on Koacheli.

Monika real: ah

Monika Borycka: Koacheli, sorry. so

Monika real: of marmer thing. poant nego iya idip fakeikubo daughterto marna er ya kishbu du kash marna yes and but They give us something marne. Maybe it is of acceptance.

Monika real: But on the other hand, think about the situation like now that's AI-ing scene of K-pop, which is K-On,

Monika real: ah suha novas that car a ofva and keep we keep up to the k on and toha or te panny all ah eta capperani dano thesav pushchanatan shep no I but a To the scene pop.

Monika Borycka: Yes, like i put a person.

Monika real: to presentach forna i am artist ah send keep up over with music, with the the the of ah e yeahrost or christiania just the foods of zetoys pierce in ai over to yeah so john is mishals way overdinoty and

Monika real: Exactly.

Monika Borycka: He will never miss romance.

Monika real: He doesn't

Monika Borycka: He will never miss romance.

Monika real: make anything stupid.

Monika Borycka: But you think...

Monika real: He does every product and does every product to each museum, which propose.

Monika Borycka: Do you think it will lead to now? Like AI Avatar Celebrity cyber-prestest.

Monika Borycka: but is chicago yeah

Monika real: A, dobra, dobra, no, dobra.

Monika Borycka: a tuavia snova no nova um

Monika real: ah mission

Monika Borycka: and van i won she heard your super but just fun yeah It is, I the new idea of the virtual idols, he said, super solution, that nobody ever able to get into romance. But it is always a danger hacking.

Monika Borycka: and nato has theda mission is structurechato likerojana haovania album Or, to a of celebryt.

Monika real: Okay, okay.

Monika Borycka: To jest deepfake, to jeszcze raz, żeby do słuchaczy też doszło. Deepfake wygenerowane w całości przez AI, na brand, na wartość brandu itd., itd.

Monika Borycka: To nie są, wiecie, to brzmi naprawdę jak scenariusz z kosmosu, ale nie wydaje mi się, on nie może nie być do zrealizowania, nie?

Monika real: The more that Huxfield is a startup company that was released in San Francisco, which has pushed the a first-time in world's first-time AI.

Monika real: ah e salanni pavajana takeke mutannaro nimo bihev is so but no

Monika real: but tana prav the the da four natashmo cost for inter kia vis ah shi nago talento to be able to produce.

Monika Borycka: alarogi what But but it's important to be a good thing.

Monika real: But obviously, the stream will work the same way.

Monika Borycka: You can't like Taylor Swift, Charlie XCX, new hip hop generation. and ti most daniel mosal bit tuev tylerwi

Monika real: no

Monika Borycka: char xxix and of a mopocolani does does ski hop over yeah

Monika real: not low

Monika Borycka: ay

Monika real: the but with of notation yeah they say me so and

Monika Borycka: But we have to be able to get one of the

Monika Borycka: yeah poa forlu andnoia so like do shadow do you need to post this

Monika real: in the reality.

Monika Borycka: like itto the I think I think about the and but very interesting, and

Monika real: no

Monika real: Mm-hmm.

Monika Borycka: It's amazing.

Monika Borycka: To jest jedna z największych ciekawost, jakie wyniosłam stamtąd. so pachiovvek To

Monika Borycka: but gone down ittila tila a lot moreja What are those artists, artists, artists, artists

Monika Borycka: the ogoon dons toch so but tony jaam muniovshnaza scientist actorroomba yeah so and if's for feel to invest the poem strategy la timemon yeah a day shi to is zopoia in naia visco imoontautovvauuch have a lot of different feelings. I don't know, maybe Ada Pavlak would say something transhumanism and so on. But it's a kind of a mystery, which a mystery, which is a mystery, which is a mystery, which is mystery, which is a mystery.

Monika Borycka: And it's a very interesting thing for me. <unk>taki taish vichaina milo ver lam and

Monika real: um tag itto hi bafaia putsumov ve and na dottoo shaish me ta number of the verageist chita a ga kaneshmir tell nochi do da con thomasas sammoha do prava and mentionedship of taajbui youm moin oinky be murra ah buant and fin should pina to lot to the yeah I The andmo ob bitto yesterdayra in yvelo on on your in femalema pamienta other politician that schnaster rob vince pra but pinasellala

Monika real: The film Congress was a large adaptation of idea of scanning himself an actor.

Monika real: ah this scan sheako atorki guvna boja turquez aktorconi There is a concept

Monika real: and as to this dash g ah iniggsnasniporttatoia

Monika Borycka: I can't even talk about the emotion about the Abba a

Monika Borycka: ah and vi b beja and misfami port falami ahturon veria dola idoky lubima I just tell you, if you think about how the Voyage is to go financially, the bill is not cheap, although they can be used 33$, for some cosmic price, a few hundred bucks. But in the last year, in 2024, the concert generated 113 million dollars for one year.

Monika Borycka: but said foau andto samam the schurro which leadotation to the vi toarte ah conservative guner of our culture cha yeah million ofollar ah and I remember that the budget was an poor when youka to pa me and touch not vlata ah vollata is vama in

Monika real: This the

Monika Borycka: It's hard to say, hard to say. It's

Monika Borycka: hard to of my favorite songs, because I had no one my favorite songs.

Monika Borycka: ah And in maja 2025, the changes in setlist. I wanted to say that fans of the songs like Super Trooper or Money Money Money, will be the best to be in the end.

Monika real: And this accent, maybe not at the end, is my fanbase.

Monika real: and

Monika Borycka: I would like the um of the history if shes goruja pionza capitalism e a developer ah and prado podoi benoluo do marepwagoroovvin wheni can of moja ahnamanage the weekend flodia I just say, I'm going go to the world. Kate, what a mom.

Monika Borycka: so right

Monika real: I'll try to get little of

Monika Borycka: kate yacamoma took at recently the day

Monika Borycka: But it's four letters. But Tate's a good morning.

Monika real: as outto ah ah safe

Monika Borycka: I'm going to go to 20.00. We'll go to 20.00.

Monika real: Okay, you are a good friend of I'm good friend of mine.

Monika Borycka: but you jim

Monika real: I'm a good friend of mine. I'm a good friend of mine. I'm a good friend mine. I'm good friend of mine. a avatta the savanna goes a sp her toragonun lu bes who had just nahil la and promisemis i nu penaniatass of london yeah and a turkosish nadaish is suha chi la salov badaf is a battanapuswahi tech um ave motinum evanwa nepo so v is a patji So, so like

Monika Borycka: i while you watched it so

Monika real: ah

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