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Season 5- Episode 42- Squads & Goals (Super Rugby SF)
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Keeping it brief since this is late (apologies again). On this ep you'll catch us talking about World Cup squads, Super Rugby Semi-Finals and the Free Jacks wrapping up their season with a good win against Houston. If you don't want to hear about the deep sea disaster that's been talked about the last week plus, skip our No Discrimination segment at the beginning. We hope you enjoy, even though we are tardy to the party again.
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Transcript
Introductions and Collusion Critique
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It is the fantasy rugby angst. My name is Jared Dyche. I wanted to say it's stupid and let's move on, but then you kept going. I'm Ben Glauser. I don't like any way anybody handled that. Collusion. Collusion.
Fantasy Rugby Season Wrap-Up
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Hey, everybody. Welcome back. It is the fantasy rugby angst. My name is Jared Dyche.
00:00:31
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I'm Ben Glauser. Last of a few at most, I think. So for the year. Yeah, really wrapping up. There's this wrapping up. Remember we didn't have enough time to talk about everything and now we're just like spoiled for time. It's a weird feeling, especially not having to do the fantasy things and all that. It's like, wait a minute, I was just going to sit down and talk about the rugby that I just watched. Right. And I'm just and you know, this week's been weird for me because I don't have anything
00:01:01
Speaker
else going on. I've been sitting here with my thumb on my my ass for half the week so far. Yeah, yeah, you're finally done. Yeah, all the high school stuff. Yeah, through your finals. Yeah, all that. Anywho, then let's crack them. Yes, please.
Community Thanks and Feedback
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I think about what I skipped here. The most important part. Stupid. But it's on you find this and share us on your favorite podcast app.
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Download, review, share, feedback, always welcome as usual. Make sure that you do buy our good friend, George, the fancy rugby geek, a coffee man, probably won at least a few of you out there a title or two. So give him a hand. Why don't you do? And then thank you to the, um, the contributor who wished to remain anonymous in my DMS. I believe, um, who said that our fantasy advice helped him.
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when, when, when his league with several of the people that we know. So, oh yeah. Oops. So that was nice too. But yes. Um, by extension, you know, that's nice. I mean, when you, when you give that feedback and George asked you to buy him a coffee. So by the man of coffee, cause he's, you definitely should, he's good.
Critique of the Super-Rich's Decisions
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As always, there is no discrimination here on this podcast, nor should there be in sports or in life. Um,
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It's not quite discrimination, but it is in some ways with the super rich doing something somewhat dumb and kind of getting caught with their pants down, unfortunately. Seriously. I mean, the hubris of like, I've got money, so of course I'll just pay for this and it'll work out. Yeah, to go down to see the Titanic
00:03:04
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And it's something that was built in some guy's backyard and has discarded construction materials. And I'm horrified that anybody would like, the CEO is with them too. The guy who owned the show, who did it all. He's like, yeah, I'll go down too. It's like, yeah, this is, oh yeah, it's him and four people who bought tickets. So it was him and the people who paid a total of a million dollars. He got a million dollars for this.
00:03:33
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And right. I mean, he knew his market. That's for sure. Yeah, exactly. And it's like, don't the trick is you don't put yourself unless it's this is some sort of like amazing, which it could be. Fuck. That would be that would be unbelievable if it was like he's faking his own death somehow in all this.
Dangerous Ventures and Whistleblower Revelations
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Like he didn't actually get on the ship like he had a double or something like that. And now he could just make that be a hell of a way to go cash. That would be I would love that.
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But no, none of this makes sense. You don't you don't get on the death trap with your the rubes. And yeah, like seeing the report from like a year ago on this thing where it was rated to like nowhere near the depth that it was going to. And it's like you you're going to put any like you're going to put yourself on there. It makes me wonder like at what point on their descent did they realize that this was going wrong?
00:04:29
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I don't know. Well, apparently there are supposed to be like seven fail safes on the thing and all of them have apparently failed. So not awesome either. So right. The whole thing. And there was like a whistleblower that is suing them for I know that. Oh, yeah, there was a whistleblower like about a year ago or something like that, saying how just terrible it is. And like this nobody like this shouldn't be allowed. Somebody needs to put a stop to it.
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and like he's doing them for defamation of character and shit like that because of stuff they did in response but it's like nope so he's right um yeah it's just unbelievable the whole thing like that you know at least it's at least it's not harming other people right except their family like that's that's my that's probably the to me that's the that's my takeaway is that
Ethics of Billionaires Debate
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you know, a lot of the problems we have in our society come from the inequality that is created and billionaires are the ones who are, you know, the ones who have the most are the ones who are, you know, most behind the inequality. So yeah, I don't, there's no such thing as an ethical billionaire. We were talking about a pre-show and it's like, we were talking about maybe Mark Cuban, but he's not a billionaire. So there you go.
00:05:46
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Yeah, no, I don't think he is. And he's been very, very loose with his money. He's been like, yeah, I don't deserve this. So I'm making him make sure that everybody gets some. Yeah. He's also very active in the rug. So for those overseas, you don't know about Mark Cuban. He's very active in the USA. So is it former? We like Indiana University rugby player. So yeah, I'm sorry. University of Indiana. Indiana University is in Pennsylvania. I didn't know that. Yeah, there's Indiana University of Pennsylvania, IUP.
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Oh, Yui Pui. Yeah. I think they did something in the tournament a couple of years ago. That sounds great, actually. Yeah. Talking about March Madness, of course. I see rugby people out there all are aware. Yes.
00:06:31
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Um, yeah, we are climbing towards two episode 200. I finally have time on my hands. So I'll be starting to push that a little bit harder, get questions in and all that good stuff, but just the same. Keep that, keep that in mind and bring your bring questions. Cause we are ready and wanting to answer. We do have some good ones already, but we are obviously always walking, welcoming more. I'm getting my Jersey embroidered for the occasion. Yeah.
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The thing is Jared doesn't know if I'm being serious on this. Yeah, I actually am questioning whether or not you're actually going to do that. Yikes. Anyway, let's go to let's talk a little bit about World Cup squads.
New Zealand World Cup Squad Analysis
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Not all of them have been named and or have been even near finalized.
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Obviously, the Southern Hemisphere teams are also preparing more for the rugby championship and then then with an eye obviously towards the World Cup as well. But so names could change very easily in some of this. So don't take that. Most recently named or at least a fairly recently name was New Zealand. Sunday, I believe, Fozzie named that down. Yep.
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Nothing crazy in the in the hooker department. Those are all guys that have been there, done that. I mean, right. That's like body Williams is in the thought much needed there. Yeah. Yeah, it didn't need to be too much. You Williams is a new cap. That's in V now is in. I thought he played brilliantly towards the latter. Yes. Part for the chief. So good for him. All the chiefs back row made it. I that doesn't make sense to me. Honestly, it really doesn't.
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I like, you know, I think we were talking about it last week with the blues that like that you could take their whole back three and they really took public. That was it. Yeah. So to to and you, Ani, being left out does make me scratch my head a little bit. Yeah, especially with the frizzy, like that asshole. Right. But
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Like I said, there's a chance that we see change at the end of the rugby championship, and the team that gets on the plane is different than what we see here. Yeah, it's possible. Cam Roy Garden, yes, yes, yes, yes. Good on you, lad. I had a fantastic season. Smith and Christie are the other two that are in there right now.
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I, I doubt, oh man, I'm really doubting TJ. Paranar is going to be healthy, not without the Achilles. Um, maybe, maybe gets on the plane, but I don't know. We'll see. Right. Right. We shall see. Yeah. He might be like a traveling reserve or something like that. I don't know what they do. Those like you're not on the team, but just in case we need somebody. Right. Could be, could be, could be.
00:09:21
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ALBN, good for him, he said a hell of a year after he finally came back from injury. Dallas McCloud makes it. Dallas McCloud, yeah. I mean, good on him. I mean, and he's versatile too. He can play 13, he can play wing.
00:09:38
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Yeah, that's that's going to get you on a plane. And I think it did. I think if he was either or he wouldn't be on. But the fact that he can do both is why he's there. Right. Now, Rawa. Don't mind over Stevenson.
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Don't understand it. Yeah. Like, I mean, like I kept in the row was in. I don't understand why Stevenson isn't. Yeah. Because I got to say, it's a matter of who do you take out? Yeah. Yeah. Clark didn't have a great year. You're right. I'll give you that one. He's and he's been the year before, too. He's had two years now where he's been met. I think maybe this might be a seat like this is his prove it. I'm guessing he plays in the rugby championship. And if he's not it, then he he's not on the plane and Stevenson is.
00:10:27
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That might be true. That might be true as well. Pulled out of my own butthole, but that's my theory. It's not a terrible one. Oh, you know what? No, hold on. Stevenson has been added for injury cover for Talia. There you go. There's that answer at least. Well, all right. Okay, so he's at least on the radar.
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Right. And I'm guessing that that's it. I'm guessing that cutoff was between him and Clark. And that's why he's possibly he's the first one cut or first one cut and Clark's the last one to make it. That's probably true. Probably true. Also in there, I like this. I like
Italy's World Cup Squad and Prospects
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that we're playing rugby is done here with the.
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with the pools also in their pool. We don't, we won't find out what France does. Although I think they just saw a squad of theirs, but maybe that's not the final thing. Um, especially since the top 14 final, which was absolutely awesome. Bonkers. We can talk about that too. Crazy ending. We can talk about that later if we have time. Um, assuming we have time. Italy has been, has named their squad. This is Karen Clark Crowley's last go around as we know. Um,
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We see a couple of names you're wondering. I like this squad a lot. Yeah. Odagu is named in it. Do you not go Brex in Odagu as you're 12 and 13? You know, you could, and... Because Brex is that carry thing. I mean, not that Odagu can't either, but... Right.
00:12:08
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you know, he's one of those kind of hybrids. He could play 13. He can play wing. Um, a dog would probably play 12 if you really wanted them to. Um, but like, that's not really the best use of his skills because the skills are that extreme physicality in space. And then like he will sit you down and then burn everyone else to the, to the trial line. Like I'd like, I can't wait to see the guy that was, that was, um,
00:12:37
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that was playing next to Brex for the majority of the Six Nations recently. It was Bruno. Was it Bruno? I thought it was. That was Monticello. Oh, it might have been Monticello. Yeah. So there's there's. Yeah, it's been too long. It's trying too much since then. Yeah. So there are options for them, which was great. Yeah. Unfortunately, I just don't know who the.
00:13:06
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get upset in this pool, despite the great look, they'll probably come in third again. Right. I don't see them upsetting France or the box. Maybe France on a day that kind of France goes to and has a nap, but that's like, that's all you think about. They'll beat Uruguay. They'll beat Namibia. Yeah. But I just don't know. We'll get to a preview before we get into season six, but.
00:13:32
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Yeah, we'll see. Uh, pull be the big boys and pull be obviously being the defending champions,
South Africa's Squad Challenges
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South Africa. Um, junk line has been, has been named in the squad for TRC. And obviously that means he's now switched from Ireland to South Africa. And which is weird. Cause he usually goes the other way. Yeah. Um, well, maybe not to Ireland, but.
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Yeah, other countries. Scotland, certainly. Right. Right. I.
00:14:10
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I don't know if he's really a loss for Ireland. No, I don't. I don't think so. Yeah, I think it's a good that's it. It's one of those that helps everybody. Right. Because it's also like Ireland have their their pick. They have talent talent is not an issue there anywhere. It's just getting them all together. So in this case, yeah, South Africa have had some some
00:14:38
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some losses and they have some, some holes and that's us, but that's, that's not going to stop them from being successful team because they're used to it. Um, so yeah, I think as one of those, that's, that's good for everyone. Yeah, for their sake. It also takes less pressure off in the Island code, you know, the Island coaches are like, okay, good. Like that we're kind of limited in our options. That's, that's helpful in some ways. Right, right. Um,
00:15:05
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They've named Khaleesi. We'll see if he's healthy. I know he's battling back from an injury. That's a big one right there. If he can get back to health.
00:15:15
Speaker
Yeah, so John Luke Dupree is named into this, to the squad. It's going to have to be pared down. Obviously it's all, I think it's 40, 41 players, 40 to 41. So we'll see if he get, I think it needs to be paired down to 35 to get on the plane. So we'll see. Um, I know they're looking, they're also looking for other options. Like they've had to consider bringing back.
00:15:37
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um, Elton Yancey's cause they've got some problems with their 10 position right now. Um, it was a rumor that they're going to maybe deploy all artists at 12 as well, which I don't know. I'm kind of skeptical of that, but okay. That's not, that's not the stuff that what, what happened in South Africa and who kidnapped them and who's holding them hostage and what the
00:16:05
Speaker
Yeah. Esther Hazen, named in the squad. Great. No, it doesn't sound right. Yeah. Excellent. It needs to be. In this squad, in particular, four halfbacks named Faf, Hendrix, Hershey, Anschis, and Reinach. So we'll see what happens with that one. I'm not sure about it, but I'm not sure which one. I'm not sure who I want to play of those, honestly. Hendrix is the me, is the form for me.
00:16:35
Speaker
Uh, I think, I think Hershey and Jesus, they're on form as well, but the guy that's been the best in that green kit is probably Jaden Hennigso. So we'll see. Interesting stuff going on. Just the same. Uh, let's see if I can hang on to the, I still don't get Willie LaRue, but Willie LaPoo. Um,
00:17:04
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Ireland hmm 42 player squad named right now for training. We'll see who ends up where They might not have sex in this we something that's been obviously spinning around Name, but I don't understand how I don't know how like reputable that sources I don't know about I don't anything about that paper, but they seem like dog it on this so okay
Ireland's Squad Depth Concerns
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Fine. But yeah, it seems like he's in trouble. It could. Yeah, it could be. So that would be a massive round. Right. The videos I saw didn't look good. Right. No, it's any time you're chasing down an official in any capacity, especially as someone that's not dressed as a player, like it's right. It's double. It's doubly bad. It looks really awful in that case. Yeah. After and especially if that's your second.
00:17:55
Speaker
bite at it. Like you're already told to go away and then you come back at it again. Like that's not a great look. Not good. Not a great look at all. Yeah. And back's killing blade named. That's interesting. That's an interesting one for me. Um, I don't think anybody uncap outright uncapped right now is named.
00:18:22
Speaker
which is not bad. There's definitely some young names on there like Craig Casey and Karen Frowley don't have a ton of caps. Oh, I think Calvin Nash is on cap actually, now that I think about it. So keep that in mind. Yes, Calvin Nash is on cap.
00:18:39
Speaker
OK, he doesn't have a little doodad in this guy. No, but maybe they didn't know it. Well, let me give me one second. I am going to do some I'm going to the tweet. Yeah, directly to the source. So I'm going to do a second here. OK, there's a couple. OK, there are uncapped. OK, but it's.
00:19:03
Speaker
Hold on. Where are we? Calvin Nash is uncapped. Okay. He's uncapped. Yep. That makes sense. There's also Frawley Osborn. Stewart. Okay. Yeah, that makes sense. And Nash, obviously. Those are the four. Nash, Frawley, Osborn. Yeah, Osborn was kind of a weird one, but okay. And it was the last one. Oh, Tom Stewart. That's right.
00:19:28
Speaker
Yeah, he did have a good season for his first club. So I'll give him that one. But again, spoiled for choice in Ireland for, as we talked about with their locks amongst other positions as well. Right. The only thing is like, I don't really believe they have a ready-made replacement for
00:19:58
Speaker
Sexton in the squad. Like Ross Byrne is not bad, but he is not ready to fulfill that role and lead this team to, you know, the furthest that Ireland's ever been in a World Cup, which is not not yet. Which is why Sexton shouldn't have been hogging the 10 jersey lately. And that's not against Sexton. But it's like you got to, you know, look, we'll get to them. But for England, is Marcus Smith their 10 this year? No.
00:20:29
Speaker
No, it's it's new by the end of the year. It's Owen Farrell. That's it. That is going to be him at 10. And they're going to have a proper 1213 is the way it really should be done. But either way, Farrell's at 10. But like Smith's ready. Like if anything happens to fast, Smith's in. Yes, he's the guy and but he's ready for it.
00:20:53
Speaker
Is he going to be as good? No, but that's not that's it. There's a difference between not as good and not ready. Yeah. And just not not really. Right. And you can and it's only not as good. You can cover up. I think a lot of it. Right. Right.
00:21:10
Speaker
So the tennis so is so key to everything that that Ireland do, too. That's the other problem is you have you've taken your oldest and kind of frailest player and made him like what makes your team go and the linchpin of your team. No, no one else can really just do it by themselves. And that's that's scary. That's problematic. The problem. Yeah, absolutely. Because that's when that guy is gone. What do you know? You know, when he steps down, but he's the guy that everything goes through. Yes.
00:21:40
Speaker
Yep, agreed.
Scotland's Squad Strengths and Weaknesses
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Townsend has a squad that he's named and is obviously cycling through some things. I think Ben White should stay as the starter at nine. And that says a lot about how well he played and really like to keep Ali Price away. It says a lot about him.
00:22:04
Speaker
and how well he played. But he did. He played super well. He did. He did. So I do hope that he's able to and given the chance to keep going with that. Yeah. I wonder how much time this Duhan van der Merwe is going to get. I hope plenty. For his sake. Yeah, him not being at a World Cup yet is kind of a shame.
00:22:29
Speaker
but we should solve that this week with that. We'll fix that. That'll be fixed. Yeah. No problem. I, I still see a name in the forward pack and I just like, and there's a couple of them, but the one that catches my eye and makes me go what the actual fuck is kill Chris. Like I don't know what value he brings over any other person that can play lock for, for them.
00:22:56
Speaker
Like I'm, I'm still struggling to me. It's Sam Skinner and Richie, and Richie gray. And you just that they call it a day. Yeah. I seen nothing wrong with that. But at the same time, at the same time, you need like four or five locks. And to me, GG is their fifth best lock because there's really only four better in Scotland.
00:23:20
Speaker
Right. I think that's just the status. It is a lot of ways. You're being around. It was a mean thing to say. And I don't, I don't, it wasn't, you know, it wasn't said with, with hatred or malice. It's just, that's the fact he's the fifth best block in Scotland. Tonga squad has been also named in this pool. Adam Coleman included.
00:23:46
Speaker
like did not, did not understand, did not realize that was a possibility. I guess it was talked about in, in broadcast and maybe I just wasn't listening, but damn. Okay. I mean, you, you take what you can get when you're in this position and hopefully that stops being a thing with, um, the Moana Pacifica team, uh, coming along and super rugby.
Tonga's Squad Opportunities
00:24:09
Speaker
And you still have obviously this, this, this also, this rule with, uh,
00:24:14
Speaker
you can switch allegiances within a reasonable amount of time between the two things. Hopefully that'll be a less and less thing. And yes, you'll still have to kind of, you will always get the best, but you'll be able to be a little choosier. So for now they can't be as choosy. So yeah, you're going to take out and call him when he says, I want to play for you. Right. And again, I think you're in the same position there. I don't think he's a frontline starter there. I mean, you got Fafita and you figure out, you know,
00:24:45
Speaker
Maybe you put like, there you go. Yep. Yeah. I'll take it. A whole bunch of good loose forwards too as well. So yeah, I think how Coleman's there for depth and for him to continue getting some international time. So.
00:25:04
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, this is one of those, like if Tanya had better options, they would, but it's like, this is one of those situations where it's like, okay, we need, we need you to break glass in case emergency white men. Yeah, sure. Yeah, absolutely. Colonizer. All right. Come on.
00:25:23
Speaker
Peter Aki named the team, which is great. He did. He's had a great season for to lose, obviously. George Malwala was a name that popped up. I was like, yes. Malwala and Fekitoa in the midfield is not a fun combination, but he means whatsoever.
00:25:42
Speaker
i do not look forward to playing against that no matter who you are no thank you right right and then you still have um kata and chucky oh you have chuck pieta yeah you have chuck out the back as well yep it's some other asshole but unfortunately fuckface is there too but we'll skip over him yeah uh big big squad name which did you see that did you see the uh the irish fuckface signed with some
00:26:10
Speaker
He was a French, I can't remember. I don't remember. I don't remember. I hope so. I saw it either way. He's, he's, he's gone. We don't have to worry about him. He's not in England anymore. Good. Fuck him. Fuck him. Um, and then let's go to, um, we don't need to talk about Romania. Nobody actually stands to it anyway. There are a few team players in there that are playing in like championship and pro DDA, but like, you know, we don't need to get too deep into that. Um,
00:26:41
Speaker
It was a squad named a while ago, but there was, it's a squad that's had a lot going on since then.
Wales' Squad Challenges and Retirements
00:26:47
Speaker
So, um, Wales, like let's have a look at it. Um, and everybody retired. It's a lot. It's, it's a big problem right now. So in this team, that's here, there's names here that are not actually going to play like tips is in this thing. Allen wins in this thing. Like.
00:27:07
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. There's, there's problems. And apparently Warren Gatlin is regretting his decision to come back, which I laugh because it's like, Oh man, that really sucks. But at the same time, like it's really bad. Like I'm not, I'm not trying to make light of the situation, but it's a really bad situation. And it's not his fault. I don't think he knew what he was coming. I honestly don't think he knew what he was coming back to. He definitely did not. Otherwise I don't think he, I think he'd still be with the chiefs. Shit. You think he'd,
00:27:37
Speaker
You'd be playing the final this weekend if he was there probably. Right. More likely, at least. So it's not a good it's not a good spot. And it's going to be bad for development because you already had. And who is it? Did I'm looking through? I haven't really. Who was the center who signed with Exeter? He's he's he's not on. He's out of there on. Yeah. Yeah. Not eligible. Which is ridiculous, like.
00:28:06
Speaker
He's not eligible because he wasn't, no, but it's like when you need players, that's, I think that's really what it is, is like he's leaving because he needs to be able to afford to live. And who, you know, who else you got? Tomo could actually be okay. So yeah, I'm not going to be fine. You know, maybe that, maybe that was it. Like, all right, we've got Nick Thompson. So fine. See ya. Yeah. And I'll probably stick to that too.
00:28:34
Speaker
Yeah, it's I mean, he wasn't the second coming that everybody was touting him to be in my from what I saw. Doesn't mean he wasn't going to turn into that. But no, he's like 23 or something like that. So right. He's got time. So I'm not going to sit there and say it's a total crock of shit. But like what I saw didn't quite scream that to me, but still had time to develop and whatnot. But he's not going to develop in a red shirt anymore. Right.
00:29:00
Speaker
You know, it's it's obviously a huge issue. People are touting Mason Brady. We'll see if he sticks around. Yeah. Yeah, Lee half penny should be nowhere near the squad, but right. Like what the fuck we doing? Didn't don't even understand. Who was it who just targeted Lee half penny? Was it wasn't England in six? Yeah, I think so. I think so. Doesn't matter. Good luck to stay up all day long. You can't put him out there. No.
00:29:30
Speaker
Well, not against, you know, who else is in their group? Australia. Australia. Fiji. Fiji might beat them. Georgia. Georgia's already beat them before. Right. Georgia could take advantage of half penny. Portugal's no joke. Yeah. Can confirm they're not serious. And look where we are.
00:29:58
Speaker
Let's skip over the Australia squad because that was named a long time ago. Right, that'll come soon. PG. PG. This also is definitely our boy. Maui!
00:30:11
Speaker
You're welcome. Exactly. Tawaki's in there, former MLR player. That's great. Botea is in as a forward. We kind of knew that was going to happen. And I'm really excited to see what this team does with more of these players having played at a high level now for a couple of years, at least, which is great. So with all these players now having a shot at playing high level rugby consistently,
00:30:41
Speaker
Yeah. I like Wales better fricking not nap on this team because they're going to get, they're going to get pop big time. And even, even Australia, I also would be very aware as far as the players go. Cause you know, like Penny rabbi plays, plays against these plays with some of these guys, those guys. And obviously they played against the team.
00:31:00
Speaker
Yeah, I saw that. We'll see if he actually finds a way to get into the actual squad. Right. Well, that's what I'm wondering about, because I thought they canceled his contract. I know the- The Druro did, but the Fijians have not, obviously. Okay. I thought it was both. I thought it was like what the French did with Hawas. Okay. No, not quite. Oh, no, not quite.
00:31:22
Speaker
He's in there, but man, I mean, hopefully we don't have to see his ass.
Excitement for Fiji's Squad
00:31:27
Speaker
Brad Rogers in there was great. Rod, Rod, Rod and fucking Revolvo in the middle. Uh-huh. That is sexy. Yeah, that is going to be awesome. Every time on at on one of the wings, he's been he's been in lights out and freaking, you know, if if policy, whatever, that's still going to light it up.
00:31:50
Speaker
Yeah. So, I mean, chose back to us for myself. Yeah. Yeah. Just say, yeah, there's going to be some, some good stuff going on over there. Right. Yeah. Where's the amount is in there. Great. Oh, Tamani and Yato in the same back row is going to be awesome, by the way. Yeah. Yeah. Billy Mata. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Eat it all up, man. Big time. And then you got the, the, you know, Darren O'Laggy and Mira Mira.
00:32:20
Speaker
like coming into like also in there. Yep. They're going to, they're going to learn a lot more from this too. This is like, this is going to build on itself and they're going to go back to the drill next year and be just even that much more dangerous with this experience. This is, this is very, things are looking up for that squad. I got to say, absolutely. And then, um, I don't need to, yeah, we got, we got the Japan squad. All right, cool. Um,
00:32:52
Speaker
I don't see Mike Leach on this team. I don't know. I thought he stepped in the right direction. Really? As much as we love Mike Leach. Let's make that clear. We love Mike Leach and everything he's done for rugby, especially in Japan. But he's done. Like, you're done. He's there. He's going. And yeah, no, but he's not your starter. He can't start. No. He can't be your frontline guy. He's got to be the... Absolutely not.
00:33:21
Speaker
He comes on with five minutes to play in the final. No, because they're not going to be in the final, but I mean, you know, you know what I mean? Like their last match. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Shut up. He's back in there. Yeah. Yeah. And the guy, he's back in there. Oh yeah. He is there. Damn it. Fuck. I'm sorry. I totally screwed that up. Um, first mistake today. Um, that's not to see me back in there.
00:33:46
Speaker
the features in there. Yep. Nakamura. Okay. Yep. Like, yeah. Matsuda. Yeah. I mean, is tomorrow in here? No. Okay. No, but I don't see him. That's a step in the right direction. Like he was a serviceable 10 at the last World Cup, but like,
00:34:06
Speaker
He was, I think, even in that World Cup, he was already on a downward trajectory. So the fact that he's not in there is a positive move for this team without a doubt. You know, it's, oh man, no, no, no, pass. Yeah, definitely pass. And then let's look towards Samoa.
Samoa's Competitive Squad Potential
00:34:30
Speaker
I saw someone asked the other day,
00:34:34
Speaker
on the Twitters, you know, if it was okay that TD Levo Satelli is playing for Samoa. Yeah. And I'm like, what the fuck? Yeah. Yes. Yes. It's fine. He deserves to play. He's good enough to be in a World Cup. Okay. Number one. Right. Even if it's for another tier two country, it doesn't matter.
00:34:59
Speaker
we were dog shit and we got what we deserve. And we're going to see guys exit in one way or the other. And that's what happens. So, yes, he, the fact that he's able to go in and be in this, um, Samoan squad. Hell yeah. Look at who's in this squad though. Some good names. Right. Like Theo is in it. Jeffery's to Magga Allen is Chris Vue. Yep. Jordan Tafoo is in it. Yep. Uh, yeah. I'm just going through the forwards. I'm just looking at,
00:35:29
Speaker
Right. You know, Al Aletoa, you know, Faso and Mifailagi are kind of there.
00:35:38
Speaker
Miracles gonna be great in this one for sure. Miracles, I think this is, everybody besides Super Ruby Watchers is gonna figure out who Miracle is in this world cup. I'm nervous to say that is all. Cause I'm not sure he's ready yet. I think next year, next world cup is gonna, well, I think he'll be a name by then anyway. Yeah, he'll be a name by then. But I think everybody's gonna figure out how talented this kid is. Cause he did put his hand up for a really bad,
00:36:03
Speaker
Pacifica team this year. So you got to give him credit and I think he'll only thrive. When you put your hand up in those situations, you're probably doing okay. Right. And okay, so you look at all the people there, which of those are, you know,
00:36:22
Speaker
USA type play like, you know, which USA player is going to be able to play with that a team like that and actually play with the guy but not be like, yeah, I mean, Charlie is almost there. I'm catching up. Yeah. No, they don't. They don't know what the fuck they're doing. No, no, no. Well, we'll cheer for our here. Absolutely. Absolutely. I mean, there's so many play and, you know, I'll just hear for the team because I let us, you know, just go through those forwards. The simple log is on the team.
00:36:52
Speaker
Yep. They're going to be great. I didn't look at the backs. Tawala, Sooteni. Laelia Fano's been decent. Yeah. No, no, no. Williams, Ely, Ely played it for the Rebels. Yep. Pamai played really well for Moana. Yeah. I think, again, same as the Tongans, like- Oh, Sooteni. Oh, shit. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes.
00:37:14
Speaker
near double winner, near double winner. Right, right. That's okay. They're not, you know, that's an impressive team that's, they could challenge the, they could for sure, certainly like it's, I would say probably between them and Japan for third. Yep, I agree. I agree. Yeah, it'll be a nightmare. Right, just because I don't see either of them
00:37:42
Speaker
being doing, doing much damage to England or Argentina. Well, we'll see. Argentina looks like, yeah. Right. Because they could beat, but they beat everybody that one year and then they kind of just sucked the next. Yes. Like I don't, I don't know. We'll see. We'll see. It's they've, they beat, you know, they beat Japan. They beat, um, they beat England and they beat all the blacks in the same year. So yeah. Right. Granted, it was two not great teams of those variations, but you know,
00:38:14
Speaker
I think that's still going to be a problem and probably into the knockout, honestly.
00:38:19
Speaker
Like, yeah, yeah. Which is, yeah, I don't see them finishing slower than a second. But anyway, we're not really doing the preview. We're just talking about the. Right. Just look at the squads. Anywho, either way, that's that's a solid. So most really valid to point out that that's a solid squad. You know, the depth might not be there, but the frontline starters are going to be competitive. It's going to be games where even against the Argentinians in English, especially English, depending on how they play.
00:38:48
Speaker
They'll be in it for like 60 minutes, probably. And then it'll just be that last 20 that kind of doesn't mean the fricking. The guy, the cooler cart guy. Oh.
00:39:02
Speaker
I'm just watching the latter half. I'm at six. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It almost gets run. It almost does a fucking tumble off of it. Let's go to super rugby. He's the camera on the try, though. He doesn't really. He does good camera work. He does everything else for the shot. Do it for the shot. Do for the shot. Let's go super rugby. Let's go to my finals.
00:39:29
Speaker
because there's blues and you and I were talking about it the other day, like, man, if either one of our teams made all these mistakes, like that we coach, there'd be some Balkans in the end, I think. And I'm not a, I don't yell very often. I'm just more of a, right. I still give tongue lashings, but I don't yell at them. I just like, I let them know like, guys, this is pretty awful. Like what the fuck are we doing? You know, right.
00:39:58
Speaker
knock some heads about more, but you do it, you know, sense of like with a cool head and then you, well, and then you charge your captains with, you know, Hey, can you freaking rattle some cages, please? Cause this is pretty awful. And I would have been in Bowdoin Barrett's face probably at half and been like, do you want to play? Yeah. Really bad game. Yeah. Like.
00:40:20
Speaker
very unbearable yeah it was terrible i mean he he just he was um allaying on tackles like especially that that funny ganooku try yeah um well i mean that was what was it was that was second half anyway that was that was even into the second half and he just like
00:40:39
Speaker
There was already a man wide, and I think there was only one attacking player in support wide, and Bowdoin just runs past Tainanuku, and it's like, no, no, no, that's your man. That outside's already covered, and he kind of did the whole like, oh, no, that's your man, you're tackling. It's like, you know, we talk about, yeah. And it's like, no, no, no, that's yours.
00:41:00
Speaker
You got to know that like someone of his experience and his level to make that kind of mistake in a knockout matches is poor. Mm hmm. Quite ultra poor. And that's that's just kind of the way the game went. It was just never. And especially the oh, 25 minutes in, what was it? 18 nothing. Yeah, that's a little kicker points.
00:41:23
Speaker
Right, right. I was like, what are you doing? Packed it in. You are way beyond like, kicking status at this moment. You need points and you need to do them. You need points now. Right. You took it from a three try game to a three score game. Really didn't change much. Right. And the Crusaders are marching and they didn't score like right afterwards. Isn't that when... No, the Crusaders are first at half. I'm trying to find the...
00:41:52
Speaker
That was 25 minutes. Um, so like 35 minutes, I guess who scored that. Yeah. Will Jordan scored at 35. Um, Oh, that's a little, that sweet little line. He ran off of, um, and or had himself a day. And I had a great day. No question. Like everything that happened in the first half, like it went through Mwunga and it went through and or, and everyone else was just along for the ride. Yep.
00:42:22
Speaker
And that's not a bad way to do it. I mean, cause like, there's not, that's not to say they didn't play well cause they fucking did. I mean, if I knew you had a great game, but it was like, they were the ones that, you know, and or, and more longer were the ones who were like pulling the string to get them the ball. Well, you know, all they had to do was run through a gap and they're in the tri. Yeah. So yeah, they would take talent, but it doesn't take, you know, it was just you. Okay. You just run, use your talent and you're good. So two questions.
00:42:50
Speaker
One, and I'll ask them both now, I'll let you go loose. One, did Richie Mo just solidify the 10 shirt? And two, do you think this performance kind of played some of the blues players out of the all-black squad after the announcement on Sunday? I think so.
00:43:10
Speaker
Yes, to both. I mean, if there was a doubt, because, you know, to me, it's between Mwunga and Bodin as your who's your who's your 10. And it's been Mwunga pretty much all season. Bodin has been kind of meh this year. And Mwunga has been lights out just box office. And then again, it's that head to head thing. And it's for it's for who, you know, for the to go to the final.
00:43:36
Speaker
And Barrett completely spit the bit and Mwunga was cool as a cucumber. Right. Yeah, just questions worth asking, probably. Yeah, no, it's good. It's yeah. But I think I think it was already cemented. But for the blues, yes. Absolutely, there are people, there are blues who did not make this because of that disastrous performance. Mm hmm. Yeah, it wouldn't be a yellow like.
00:44:02
Speaker
Then it wasn't the smartest. Yeah, of course it was. Sometimes you're just human and you see that red mist and you're just stupid and you make a dumb mistake and yeah, you give away a card. I mean, red mist in the terms of like, you just
00:44:24
Speaker
you forget about keeping a cool head and do whatever the fuck you feel like in the mall. Exactly. I'm going to pull this mall down because I'm angry. We've all done it. I'm so annoyed at the stupid mall. I'm just going to hit it and I hope it fucking stops it. And if I collapse it, I don't give a shit.
00:44:45
Speaker
You've all been there. If you're a forward, you understand this. And you won't even understand it. Look, if you've played on good enough teams too, you know when people are doing it to you.
00:44:57
Speaker
And because it's happened and you forgive them because you're like, yeah, I know why you did what you did. Well, like, yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. It's just one of those things that happens, but you can't have you can't be that guy in a game like this. No, this is not the game for that. Yeah, so he went to the bin. Right. And that probably is what he's not on the list. Right. Well, I mean, maybe not the reason, but, you know, it was a contributing factor, likely.
00:45:28
Speaker
Mm hmm. And if you want to just. I didn't hear his name. I don't remember seeing him, unfortunately, as much as I love the guy, I just don't remember seeing him. No, which is sad. And it was just like the every time. The Blues were in position to do something, they bottled it like the there was one play where they showed it a couple of, you know, just a couple of instances of it, too.
00:45:56
Speaker
think maybe in half where they were just like, Bowdoin was running I think a hard Anders or maybe he was running the wide line and someone else's coming Anders off of I think it was Rico. And they tried to pass it out to the long player instead of hit the short guy had had to try easy because he was through the line. But outside decision was covered. And they just threw the wrong pass because it was like, No, I want to get him the ball. No, you got to use the
00:46:22
Speaker
Got to make the decision. They're right. They're covering him. Make the other decision because there's a try on the deck there. Yeah. Right. And that's the thing. Like I'm a former prop. And if I'm seeing this stuff, like as it's happening, I'm like, Oh, there's, there's your try. And he just threw the wrong pass. I'm like, what the, I'm looking there. Like, I can't believe you threw that pass. Like you don't, you.
00:46:43
Speaker
You threw the you've pinned your defender. The other defenders going out wide. You have a guy on the job. Come on, man. Like every all you have to do is just pop it. Make the easy path. And he didn't want to do it. And and I may be getting the names wrong as to who it was, but just tapping it either way. Yeah, just. And the thing is, all the Crusaders were doing was that except making the right decision. Mm hmm. Yeah, they made I mean, virtually every decision correct. Yeah. Yeah. But it's.
00:47:13
Speaker
Every time there was a defensive gap, you know, they found it was, was, was throwing it right to where it needed to go. Or, or as I said, I don't know, or was pinning the defender and putting someone else through or put going through himself. Cause yeah, I just, yeah. He found that. He found that a couple of times too. Yeah.
00:47:34
Speaker
Jared, I'm scared. This was a fairly good weather game against a really shitty weather game, and this is really for me. That's why. Nineteen six doesn't look as bad as it was. No, I was never in doubt for me because I don't think the Brumby's ever really threatened to score. No, and like they start when they started to go for it.
00:48:04
Speaker
For me, it was probably a little late, like early on. And I understand wet ball, but all right, you don't trust your, your line out or whatever. Take a scrum. Their scrum actually was pretty good. So it wasn't bad, you know, with all that.
00:48:20
Speaker
I think a lot of bad decisions were made on the Brumby's part. Nick White was a dick again. What else is new? Oh, but that pisses me off what the comms are saying. That's just respect that the chiefs are giving him. And it's like, no, Nick White was rendered completely useless. It's not that he's, it's not that
00:48:43
Speaker
like he's good and you're trying to get him off his game. It's that you can take a player who is actually, you know, serviceable and can operate an attack and really, you know, really get things going. And you're making him useless. And it's like, and he's the completely like, Deborah Zenny is is OK. Well, I hope he's OK, but he's he's all right as a player. But you can't have, you know, Nick White and Deborah Zenny at full strength, both of them going can be a little bit of a threat.
00:49:13
Speaker
But without Nick White, representing is not, no, not worried, not even a little worried. Even Lolesia, when he came in, I wasn't like, you know, he wasn't given much to work with because Nick White was getting so fucked with it, it was pissing him off. Yeah. And that's it. That's that was the difference. I thought that was an excellent idea. It worked. They didn't really have to do much, the Chiefs, to win because of it. So. Yeah.
00:49:43
Speaker
Did I stand up and cheer when Retalek went over? Yes, I did. So it was just like, it ended the question, right? It was like, because you never know. It could be one of those games. Every one of us had one of those games where it's like, yeah, okay, it's close, but it's in the bag. They're not threatening. And all it takes is one. One. One. One. Anything. Name it. Absolutely. It doesn't matter. Absolutely. Pass doesn't go to hand. Try. Yep. Kick gets charged, not try. Absolutely. You know, like,
00:50:13
Speaker
One, it just takes one. And so you want that not to happen. And then, you know, Retala goes over and you can just unpoop yourself. Absolutely. Absolutely. I don't know what it is to the Chiefs and Australian teams though.
00:50:28
Speaker
give them a, give, give it a scare. Well, yeah. Right. Like, do you guys not know how to play against these teams at all? Um, it's yeah, they're just not, they don't, they didn't have that same killer instinct. They weren't like bouncing on every, like the hustle wasn't there. I wouldn't say like the thing that makes the chiefs go is that they're going to, you know, again, if there is that one, there's that loose ball, there's that, you know, something where, um,
00:50:53
Speaker
anything can happen. The Chiefs have been the ones to get to the ball and make it happen. And they just weren't doing that. Maybe the weather played into it too. And a little bit never opened up enough. It didn't really open up that much. So that was, you know, that they do thrive in open play and, and Brumby's kept the tight and that was really their only chance. So.
00:51:15
Speaker
Absolutely. It's like the fair play to the Brummies. They gave it the best they had. No question about it. My one gripe with the whole thing is like, you know, last because last week, of course, Australia comms is like, oh, that's such a cheap penalty that right guy was picking up. And I hate him. I hate the penalties. Like, let me make that clear. I fucking hate those cheap penalties are so stupid. I think Nigel Owens was the first one to say, fuck that. I'm not giving that, which makes me love him more.
00:51:42
Speaker
And then, of course, this week, you know, they're all just like, aw, man, that's really intelligent play. It's like, fuck you, you hypocrite. Fuck you all. Like, you are such homers and I hate you all. Like, what the fuck? Like, no fucking way. Like, you cannot have it both ways, okay? I hate them all.
00:52:00
Speaker
let me so let me just establish that I hate them all whether it's rigard doing it or ben sail or another douchebag named like ben youngs or nick white I don't care who does it right it all fucking sucks and I hate it it's shithouse ninering and I hate it so let me just get that straight but still don't be fucking too faced about it either yeah
00:52:21
Speaker
That's the thing, like, he doesn't have to be, like, yeah, the one that went against Tizard were, and to be fair though, he was in the way of a pass that, you know, they were trying to make. And I think it was at Care, it was at the Harlequins. Yeah, they could have gotten it over him, but just chose to throw it a little low. And it's like, you know what, fine. Cause that could still go to hand. You could still maybe play it and play the advantage, but you're getting a penalty and you're like, he's the fucking world-class nine.
00:52:50
Speaker
Um, ortho and like you can, you know, get away with a little skull delivery like that, but throwing it right into him when you're just killing the play to me is like, Oh, that's the worst part too, because it kills the play. And then the referee has to do something. Yeah. And there's, there's, there's the every once in a while situation that I can agree with, but right.
00:53:15
Speaker
But then it's like, yeah, you're just killing the play for a penalty when you could have played it. We could just be playing rugby, but no, you had to be a dick. Yeah. Don't like that. Yeah. That's where I would draw the division. If you're going to be creative with it and maybe you run into him and then you throw, you know, yourself and then you're like, oh, damn it, he's in the way. And then you pass it. That's fun. Do that. Do that instead. All right. Good. I'm done with this game.
00:53:45
Speaker
Yeah. Let's go to, let's go to, let's go to Quincy.
Free Jacks Playoff Contenders
00:53:52
Speaker
And we got, you know, it was a really good rugby team. Free jacks. Free jacks are fucked there. I, they're good. Yeah. Um, yeah, they're very good. Walking came off. I'm not saying that because I'm a fan. Fortunately, but honestly, you know what?
00:54:13
Speaker
with everything, with what we had on, on the bench and on the field, it was okay. Yes. Waco needs minutes, but at the same time, those minutes don't do you any good if you're broken. So it was probably a precaution precaution. We have another week to rest up and heal up. It was, and this was, this was the break glass in case of emergency plan all along. And if this is our break glass in case of emergency plan by moving Reese to 10, that's a damn good one.
00:54:44
Speaker
because he's been brilliant all year. They scored 47 points against the Houston Sabercats without WACA or Patras. The leading scorer in the league, mind you, Jason Patras, without either of them at 10. So when I'm talking about the freejacks are good, I'm not saying that because I'm a fan of them.
00:55:09
Speaker
They're so much better than my even Homer-ish, wild-ish, Homer-ish dreams. Yeah, absolutely. Dreams could be. They are fucking scary. I love it. I'm very excited about this. He wears a Molotin mustache. That's all I know.
00:55:34
Speaker
Unfortunately, yeah, sorry, I'm going to have to beg on Houston a little bit here. I'm not a huge fan of their playing style or their coaching style. Like, Humann and Meyer, fuck them both. Like, I am not into this shit house. Like, let's beat each other up for 70, 80 minutes in a whack.
00:55:55
Speaker
Fuck out of here. They're not going to get beyond the first round, so it's fine. But like Seattle, take care of business. They're taking they took a guy like Danny Barrett and just made him worse in terms of like he wants to continue the shit house three and the shit house three ensued and and somebody sent fucking Jacobs into the bin, which I thought was bullshit, but whatever. He also sent someone else to the bin. So it is what it is.
00:56:17
Speaker
Fucking, I hate and I hate shit house nines and Denation is the fucking, one of the worst of them. Hintz is tied up with like three other guys and he's freaking out pulling. Fuck you. Fuck you, you stupid little torp. I hate you. Like I hate nines like that. Like, yeah, you got a guy tied up by three of your buddies and you're gonna come in. That's a very faff move. That's what that is. That's a faff to cleric move. Fuck you, dude. I'm gonna enjoy watching you get your ass pounded by Seattle this week because it's exactly what's gonna happen.
00:56:48
Speaker
Yeah, was not impressed with that at all. On the positive side, Vian Conrady has been on a, as I said, another level. He got to this level.
00:57:02
Speaker
He has been. And anything that needs done, he's getting done. And I liked that he answered. He basically answered Houston's Shithousery with tries. Like, for fun. Like, you know what? Do I need to score this try? Probably not, but I'm going to.
00:57:18
Speaker
so I can just so just so I can tell you to your face what I just did to you like that that's what that felt like yeah absolutely um there was there's a lot of anger behind those there is um and you know obviously um lirim along with the hat haddy oh yeah um how good but he's been he's been good forever and he's been brilliant since he's come back yeah
00:57:43
Speaker
Oh, actually, both the tries. They're both his first two. I can his last one. Hey, they were all fucking worldies, too. That that catching you didn't didn't charge down a kick. He just caught it and ran and ran like hell. Yeah. I'm going to advise that you don't let someone catch your kick that close to you because you're not going to catch him. No, he was. Everyone is either stagnant or going the other way. They're all going up the field and he's like.
00:58:05
Speaker
buy, cluck, buy. And then the other one was off a kick too. Like maybe they should have just stopped kicking because the free jacks are good in space. Maybe nobody told him. Right. And that was, well, that was a, that is a masterclass in counter-attack and MLR is filled with like counter-attack and first face tries. That's the one thing I would say if you're looking for ways to
00:58:25
Speaker
Things to pull out of the MR that are worth noting on film. That's probably the two things I would look at would be counter-attack and first-face tries. Counter-attack was Milan's second, like, wow, just wow. Yeah, Milan, Rhys, Lesage, and then Milan again. Like, yep, okay. Yeah, and Lesage has been brilliant since he's come here, so thanks. Thank you, Gilchrist, for folding, you dumb fuck. Yeah.
00:58:54
Speaker
Not mad about it at all at all. No, not not even a little bit. Nope. Oh, yeah, this team is just I could. And for all the all the chat that and we you and I both have agreed on this for a little while, for all the chat that comes with hammer size. I was so very, very, very, very unimpressed. Like, no, doesn't does not do it for me. You know, the fact that it's ever been like considered. Yeah. Yeah. No, pass.
00:59:23
Speaker
I was not, I was not impressed. I was more like, what do you, what do you think? What do you like? I was the, yeah, both him and Barrett at times. I was just like, what are you? Yeah. He was, he was more ready to get involved in s**t house three than he was to actually play rugby. Like play rugby. What the f**k are you doing, dude? And that might be the team too as well. It was hammer slice, the one that had the, uh, um, the neck roll to get us out of the world cup.
00:59:47
Speaker
No. Okay. No. Well, it should have been. Right. No, it was some, I think it was one of those NOLA props. Okay. I remember right. Oh, I thought it was a flank. No, I'm 99% sure it was one of those replacement props.
01:00:03
Speaker
Nah, sounds about right. Yeah. Again, just a lower level of players. Doesn't sound wrong. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, anyway, um, so projects get to sit on their, their hands for a little bit while we wait and see who sorts themselves out between New York and DC, New York, kind of bonus point against a not good Utah team who I don't think is Utah's not playing in the playoffs, are they? No, they're not.
01:00:30
Speaker
Yeah. So they're out there for us to say about your team, like Yikes. Yeah. Yikes. Fellas. It's all I know. Anyway, some all blacks like stat. Yeah. Right. I, they're going to host, but I don't see how they get, I don't see how they're going to.
01:00:49
Speaker
They're gonna maybe squeak by Old Glory, but then they're gonna come here and this team is just gonna be ready to roll. They're not up to the challenge. And they were talking about it and wheels annoys me sometimes, but he was talking about how they are trying to prepare players differently with this past week and manage the minutes a little bit differently, which I thought was better overall than last year. And obviously the result was better too.
01:01:19
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, yeah. I mean, you look at the results just from the free jacks this time. Like they played a lot of, you know, I mean, not this match, but even against Seattle, they played like a shag's team, essentially, like a kind of a B side and whooped them. Like they're not, yeah, they're ready. They'll have the depth. I don't think any, same thing as I was saying earlier about,
01:01:44
Speaker
Who was, was it Fiji? And it's like, they'll be great for the first 60 minutes and then the last 20 are going to be kind of the same thing. That's what's going to happen. And, uh, in four Quincy in two weeks. Right. Yeah. They're just not good. They're not on the, they're not ready.
01:02:01
Speaker
New York, New York or DC. Right. Right. Um, yeah. So the, the painful seasons for Toronto and Dallas both ended. Um, thankfully for their own sake, uh, Oh, Corey B Atlanta. I landed on have a great season despite the hype that came with them. Uh, Legion beat Seattle out at in San Diego, which
01:02:25
Speaker
We can, we might see that one again in a couple of weeks. So I don't think, let me look at the labs here real quick. I don't think Seattle put, I don't know that Seattle put their best team out there. I just don't know. Probably not.
01:02:43
Speaker
No, I see I see names missing, although, as you pointed out, Black Cowan committed a pretty bad red card, so he might be out. Yeah, that's going to be big. He's I don't see any way he he plays. Just based on the. What he did, there was no mitigate, did you see it? No, I haven't seen it, but it was good things. No, it was like a swinging arm, like coming in over the shoulder,
01:03:13
Speaker
Um, just straight to the head, neck area, like, you know, like base of the base of the head and that kind of thing. Um, yeah, not even close to the shoulder area. So it's not like he could say, Oh, well, it kind of rode up. No, he's like, um, his like top of his chest. He, the guy was already down. Like he was coming down onto the player in a way. Um, and.
01:03:36
Speaker
like the top of his chest was on the other side wrist as I saw it and I'm about as I recall it and just brought his right arm through right through the guy's right head, neck area. It was, yeah, it was a straight red. Like they didn't even, they looked at it once and he's like, that was the end. We're good. Only need to see it once we're done. I mean, to be fair, they probably saw it once or twice from different angles. They're like, yeah, we're done. This is good. We got this.
01:04:02
Speaker
We got this. And I can't imagine that's not a band. That's going to be a big difference because he's I mean, absolutely. Fuck. Yeah. Yeah, I talked about Maui earlier. He's he's a different Maui. But yeah. Right. Right. Yeah. Plays plays pretty well. So that'll be too bad for them. Yeah. Like you said, probably for the entire postseason here.
01:04:24
Speaker
I am not disappointed in that. No, I know. Assuming we that's who we end up bumping into later. Either way, I know because I want Seattle first. I mean, I want I want to play Seattle. Again, I want to play Seattle for the title because I think that's what was in Diego. No more proof we can beat them fuckers.
01:04:47
Speaker
I didn't want to play Seattle because I like Seattle. I don't want to lose to the Legion. I don't like the Legion's players as much. So I want Seattle to win because I want to, like, I either want to be like happy because the Freejacks won or like sad the Freejacks lost, but happy that the other team won. No, that's why I want to. No, that's pass.
01:05:07
Speaker
They've already got theirs. They've already got theirs. Let's give someone else a new shot. Although we still need to replace this stupid shield. It needs to be a cup. It needs to be a cup, guys. Come on. You have to be able to drink out of it. Although, did you see Romain Ensemak? No. What was he doing?
01:05:24
Speaker
He was doing a little, what's that? Not quite surfing, but like boogie boarding kind of little slidey thing on the wakeboard or wakeboarding or something like that with the shield, I think it was the MVP. That's funny.
01:05:45
Speaker
Yeah, the big plaque and just were like, did a little like skid on it in the ocean. Maybe my boys can figure that one out then. But yeah, it still needs to be a cut. But still, that's not, that's like, what are you going to take it to fucking Riviera Beach? No, no, no. I mean, maybe take it down to the Cape, but you're not taking it to Riviera. No, no, no. Anyway, we got one bit of business to finish with here.
Super Rugby Final Predictions
01:06:15
Speaker
Ben's dying. Okay. Sorry, I hit the button. It didn't. No, I know. I you did fine. You did your job. All right. All right. Last thing to pick. Oh, she's crusaders. You know, I'm going with my head here, not my heart, obviously. Chiefs. I
01:06:45
Speaker
Mercedes are fucking good and Razor scares me. Yeah. I can't tell you how much he scares me. Just because he's wicked snot and he's got a good team around him and I just I'm not thrilled with the way the Chiefs are playing.
01:07:05
Speaker
And I don't like, I don't know if they can bring the, and I hope they bring a different attitude to it, but if they bring the attitude, it's not even like they're the, it's not just the performance, but it comes down to the attitude, which created the performances. It's not there. It's not what it needs to be. And I feel like, yeah, they're doing enough to win, but you have to do more than that to beat the Crusaders. So I think, I think the Crusaders win this one.
01:07:33
Speaker
I'll go with you guys. They've they've figured out this this bogey twice already this year so I'll give them a given credit where credit's due and I Would like to see someone break out this little run. Although once razor leaves we'll see if that that changes Yeah, I think it's over after this year, but still I think it's gonna be a lot of that's gonna be a
01:07:57
Speaker
Yeah, he's going to turn to be turned on to it after the whole copy. It really is. I can't wait to see him with the all blacks. Yeah, I can't fucking wait. But anyway, yeah, I think they'll think there. I think that the championship team like that's the annoying. They are. There are no no question about it. But yeah, any. All right. So.
01:08:22
Speaker
We will be back next week because we're gonna obviously talk about this final. We'll talk about, so we've got two more at least. The free jacks are in the final. We're talking about that too.
Upcoming Events and Reflections
01:08:34
Speaker
So we'll have another one after that. But other than that, so you gotta deal with this two more times. And then- We have some World Cup teams to talk about. Yep, next week as well. Yep, absolutely. And then, yeah, you have two more for us and then plus the special and that'll be it.
01:08:51
Speaker
So that's all you got, at least maybe three. We'll see. I hope three. I'm hoping three because I don't want to deal with the shit we dealt with. Well, I say shit with, but like the feeling of last year where we just completely spit the bit in that freaking conference final. I really prefer to not do that. No, no. Although I'm just I'm I'm I'm only happy because even if they play that poorly, I took a big performance from New York to win that anyway. It was like you were playing with some of the one of the best games and
01:09:22
Speaker
Freejax played one of their worst and it's like, yeah, that was enough. And I don't know that that would be enough this year. That's how objectively odd. It's fun to be a fan of this team. I'm really happy to be that I'm a fan of this team, but like, fuck it. I'm just taking a lot of steps back and looking at him and being like, God damn, that's, you know, yeah. Absolutely. I'm acting like, what's his name? Roxanne, you know, roster baiting a little bit. Try not to do much really.
Listener Engagement and Future Plans
01:09:50
Speaker
What do you have in hand?
01:09:53
Speaker
Anywho, uh, fancy rugby podcast at gmail.com. Um, get ahold of us. Any questions, comments, concerns. Uh, like I said, I'll push some stuff out so we can get questions for 200. Other than that, um, enjoy the final. Good luck figuring out what else you gotta watch for rugby other than that in the MLR conference finals and press conference semis. And then that's going to be a long dry spell. Yeah. And then we'll talk to you. Talk to you all next week. Enjoy the rugby. Have a good one, everyone.
01:10:22
Speaker
later.