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Love Is Blind Season 4 Episode 11 Recap and Review - Bye, Jackie

Aliens Watching Reality TV
Aliens Watching Reality TV

331 plays · Apr 13, 2023

Love Is Blind season 4 is almost over! Let's talk about episode 11 and hyperfocus on its relationship dynamics as seen through a neurodiversity lens. Aliens Watching Reality TV is hosted by Erika Heidewald and Josh Shahryar, two reality show newbies who grew up feeling like aliens (turns out we're just autistic and ADHD) and love analyzing human behavior by watching reality TV dating shows on Netflix.  Watch Love Is Blind season 4 with us! We post podcast episodes featuring recaps, reviews, analyses, and random tangents for every single episode of the season. Episodes 1-11 are available on Netflix now and if you are a neurodivergent person whose special interest is human nature and communication, Love Is Blind is for YOU. It is the X Games of people watching and we're going to break down every episode and use it as a guide to understand human behavior and psychology like we are the aliens we grew up thinking we were. Til Death Do Us Part! Love ya! #AliensWatchingRealityTV Season 1: Perfect Match Season 1 Season 2: Love Is Blind Season 4 Find us on social media: https://twitter.com/erikaheidewald https://twitter.com/JShahryar https://www.tiktok.com/@erikaheidewald https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5ibZRt1YLPPlw_tGSMnynA

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Speaker: Aliens watching reality TV.

Speaker: Hello.

Speaker: It's interesting human behavior learning so much today about Love is Blind episode 11.

Speaker: Yeah, yeah, we're back.

Speaker: I'm Erica.

Speaker: And I'm Josh.

Speaker: And yeah, we're trying to make this episode a short one because we made all the other ones so long.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And there's really, I think that juice is also somewhat diminished now because all the juicy stuff happened.

Speaker: And now it's all about, you know, the happy relationships and all that stuff.

Speaker: Yeah, I feel like they stretched out the pre-wedding part a little bit.

Speaker: I thought we were going to get like a whole episode of weddings.

Speaker: I'm kind of surprised there's only going to be one real episode of weddings.

Speaker: That's a little too bad.

Speaker: Yeah, yeah.

Speaker: Maybe there are going to be really boring weddings.

Speaker: Who knows?

Speaker: Maybe there will be no weddings.

Speaker: Well, there's definitely one because it's in this episode.

Speaker: Yeah, I mean.

Speaker: So Kwame and Chelsea's journey is the focus of this episode.

Speaker: journey yes as they near their final destination final destination oh my god i love those movies yeah i liked them too i was a sicko all right so what you're reformed from liking those things

Speaker: From being a sicko.

Speaker: I'm now pure and good.

Speaker: Are you sure?

Speaker: I don't know.

Speaker: Don't ask for details.

Speaker: I just made that up.

Speaker: So we move on to the dream wedding of the one known as Chelsea and the one known as Kwame.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And honestly, I started to wonder in these last couple episodes if maybe Kwame isn't really as much on the fence as they sort of made him seem, but they've been like playing up some small stuff.

Speaker: Because like a few times she's asked him a question like, so are you ready to say yes or something?

Speaker: And they don't ever show his answer.

Speaker: They just sort of like show a facial expression and cut away and it's

Speaker: It just made me start wondering, like, is this just for the edit?

Speaker: It's just fake drama.

Speaker: So that we'll wonder if he's going to say yes at the altar when, like, he was definitely going to say yes.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: That's the thing.

Speaker: I don't feel like there's, like, a huge, yeah, question mark here.

Speaker: I think there's going to be a... Yeah, I think he's going to say yes.

Speaker: Yeah, and there's more than just, you know, this is coming from more than just his, um, whatchamacallit, um...

Speaker: Yeah, we'll get into it in this episode because we get to the... I mean, one of the things that we've learned throughout the episode, well, not throughout the episode, throughout the season, is the fact that Kwame is Gnayan, Gnayan, however you say it, from Ghana, and he is very close to his mom and his sister and...

Speaker: Yeah, so in this episode, we finally get to meet at least one member of his... Well, two members of his family, so...

Speaker: Yeah, and his sister is amazing.

Speaker: I loved her.

Speaker: I feel like if he isn't going to say yes, and you've gotten your sister that much on board, you're evil.

Speaker: That would be unacceptable.

Speaker: But also, that did happen.

Speaker: I know you haven't seen it, but last season with SK, he broke his mom's heart saying no.

Speaker: Wow.

Speaker: I'm not okay with that.

Speaker: Yeah, yeah.

Speaker: Well, I mean, I also, I watched Love is Blind season one, and in season one, Kelly and Kenny...

Speaker: Kelly was billed as this very indecisive woman who just had very high standards.

Speaker: And so one of the people in her family was just like, was shown in a conversation with Kelly where she was just like trying to emphasize that like she was going to miss out if she said no.

Speaker: And, and she eventually said no, you know, I wondered how that family member feels like.

Speaker: Um,

Speaker: It's just fascinating.

Speaker: They must have been so boring because I really can hardly remember them at all.

Speaker: No, no, I remember them.

Speaker: I mean, they were boring, obviously, but it felt like they were going to get married.

Speaker: Oh, I know you remember them.

Speaker: It's just I don't.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: No, no, I remember them, unfortunately.

Speaker: I mean, I don't want to say unfortunately as in like, I don't think you people were bad, y'all.

Speaker: Kelly and Kenny, I hope the best for both of you.

Speaker: Honestly, as an ADHD person, boring is the worst thing you can be.

Speaker: So I guess I am insulting them.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: That's kind of the thing with entertainment.

Speaker: The worst thing that you can be in entertainment.

Speaker: It's not supposed to be boring.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: No, no.

Speaker: The worst thing you can be in entertainment is to be boring.

Speaker: You can be bad, but please don't ever be fucking boring.

Speaker: Because then people just stop watching or don't remember.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: But also we do have different ideas of what is boring because like I know some people think like Tiffany and Brett are boring and I don't think they're boring at all.

Speaker: I think watching people build a really real deep like mature relationship is fascinating fun.

Speaker: Yeah, I thought that was actually fun.

Speaker: I think there were comedic moments, especially there were tense moments.

Speaker: I mean, I remember things about Cameron and Lauren.

Speaker: I can I can immediately tell you shit.

Speaker: So one of the things that I remember from them, it's that that little rap number that he did.

Speaker: Yeah, probably he doesn't know that that's the thing he's most remembered for.

Speaker: Yeah, I'm not.

Speaker: That and then the very – That's what I felt in this last episode trying to read Jackie's text.

Speaker: I felt like that.

Speaker: It's like I don't want to hear these words coming out of my mouth.

Speaker: One of the things that I really appreciated with having in that episode with –

Speaker: Not in that episode, I mean.

Speaker: One of the things that I deeply appreciated about the relationship between Cameron and Lauren was the fact that they kept it very real.

Speaker: Like, when they went to talk to her dad, she asked him serious questions.

Speaker: Like, it wasn't just some joke.

Speaker: He was like, have you ever been in a room where they're just all black people?

Speaker: Have you like literally done that before you come here and you're like, Oh, yeah, sure.

Speaker: I'm going to marry this really hot black woman.

Speaker: Like, have you had that experience?

Speaker: He was like, Fuck yeah, I've had that experience.

Speaker: And I was like, Yeah, you know, this is I'm actually kind of glad that, you know, you not kind of glad, but like,

Speaker: I'm happy that the show is really exploring the actual questions too and not just some like.

Speaker: I think Cameron and Lauren and how genuine they were is exactly why I got interested in Love is Blind because it was like quarantine didn't have that much to do.

Speaker: I'll try watching anything on Netflix.

Speaker: And then I was like, boom, I actually love this.

Speaker: But if it had just been like some other kind of generic like couple that didn't really get that deep, I probably wouldn't have even finished the season.

Speaker: Yeah, no, that was like a really nice.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Also, I didn't know for a long time how many white people only know other white people.

Speaker: It's mind boggling.

Speaker: It's like they have to ask those questions.

Speaker: It's quite important.

Speaker: Yeah, yeah.

Speaker: No, I was blown away by that.

Speaker: But I will say that when it, the Kwame and Chelsea thing, I was unsure.

Speaker: I really did not give this relationship 100%.

Speaker: Well, not 100%.

Speaker: I wouldn't even give it a 90% at one point.

Speaker: But then I met his sister.

Speaker: And I also come from Central Asia.

Speaker: Well, I say also, but, you know, I come from a society where family members' opinions and their honor is just as tied to your honor.

Speaker: So, like, if he says no at the altar, he's embarrassing his sister as well, very deeply.

Speaker: And he doesn't.

Speaker: And he has a very close relationship with his sister.

Speaker: And I was like, wow.

Speaker: Even not coming from a culture like that, I think that he would be.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: I thought that SK was doing that to his mom.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: No, for me, the... Honestly, if you know you're going to say no, you should give your family a hint, even if it's against the rules of your contract.

Speaker: It's just too mean to get people emotionally invested like that.

Speaker: And I was also happy for Chelsea, to be honest.

Speaker: Yeah, I'm happy for Chelsea.

Speaker: She's been really...

Speaker: Look, we discussed this the other day.

Speaker: And when someone is so in love with you that you are the hottest person in the world and they cannot stop gushing about you, it's such an amazing feeling, you know?

Speaker: Also, it is so amazing to feel that way.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Like, I remember feeling that way about somebody.

Speaker: And my God, it's the most powerful feeling in the world.

Speaker: Like, it's even better than being loved that much.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah, I feel like that about my plants.

Speaker: Wow.

Speaker: There's a quiet silence.

Speaker: I'm kidding.

Speaker: I kind of doubt it because I was like a little bit, people were like, are you okay?

Speaker: You know, you're really making irrational decisions.

Speaker: I'm like, I don't know.

Speaker: I'm out of my mind.

Speaker: I'm so in love.

Speaker: They had that hot photo shoot and I was like,

Speaker: Yeah, that's incredible.

Speaker: I have just a gnawing question about this.

Speaker: So I don't know if you noticed, but they're wearing these Calvin Klein underwear outfits, which Kwame also mentioned them.

Speaker: Like in the pods, he was like, oh, there's nothing hotter than a girl hanging out in her Calvin Klein underwear set.

Speaker: And it just felt ham handed like a product placement.

Speaker: But now it's like, how has this product placement been orchestrated?

Speaker: Oh, my God.

Speaker: But it was nice.

Speaker: It was nice.

Speaker: I mean, I'm not opposed to it.

Speaker: I just wonder, like, how did Kwame come into this with like, can I bring my product placement deal into this show or did Netflix set it up?

Speaker: I just want to know.

Speaker: Yeah, and just I for it was I want to say it was tastefully done partly because and I'm not saying it was tastefully done in the sense that I mean, I have an OnlyFans.

Speaker: That's a lot of skin covered if you ask me.

Speaker: Yeah, I mean, it was... That brow, you can't see any nip at all.

Speaker: They looked very covered up.

Speaker: I did not feel as if it was erotic.

Speaker: I felt like it was intimate.

Speaker: I felt like it was just very, this beautiful moment where you just kind of want to model with the person that you love who's so beautiful and you want to feel beautiful with them because you're both beautiful.

Speaker: And...

Speaker: It's definitely interesting to see how much like that scene has stood out to other people because I guess I just didn't think that much about it.

Speaker: But yeah, most people like they don't do photo shoots like that really.

Speaker: It's just literally I do that all the time and charge money for it.

Speaker: So like it doesn't seem like a big deal to me.

Speaker: But I can see how like, yeah, if you've never done anything like that before, it's pretty big deal.

Speaker: I actually took some body shots of myself the other day.

Speaker: And while I am going through some dysmorphia, I don't really take body shots of myself.

Speaker: I'm not really that huge on that shit.

Speaker: I never took a single nude until I started at OnlyFans.

Speaker: I was just really born.

Speaker: What I liked about it was that it was like real.

Speaker: It was something real.

Speaker: They didn't go on a boat or like weekend some shit.

Speaker: No, it was like a very intense, intimate, personal thing.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: It's it just seemed realer than all.

Speaker: Taking pictures like that of yourself can be great for your like confidence.

Speaker: It's great.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: So one good angle of your butt and you'll learn to love your butt.

Speaker: Oh my God.

Speaker: It's easy peasy.

Speaker: Oh my God.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: That's part of the reason why I don't like taking body shots.

Speaker: Cause I'm like, you need to take a hundred shots to get one.

Speaker: That just makes you look like a Greek God or goddess.

Speaker: No, you just figure out your one angle.

Speaker: I literally do a only fan shoot in like two minutes because I just, I know exactly what my angles are.

Speaker: You know, you just do that.

Speaker: No, I'm not an Angles person.

Speaker: That's my advice, everybody.

Speaker: I'm not an Angles person.

Speaker: Well, I am.

Speaker: Everyone's an Angles person.

Speaker: No, no, no.

Speaker: I'm totally an Angles person.

Speaker: Wait, wait.

Speaker: I'm not an Angles person in that not about my body, but my face, I'm totally an Angles person.

Speaker: I'm a blue steel.

Speaker: It's 100% blue steel.

Speaker: It's been like that since, I don't know, the past over 10 years.

Speaker: Okay, question then.

Speaker: Very important.

Speaker: If you look in the mirror, do you identify more with one side of your face than the other?

Speaker: If you look at one eye and then the other, does it feel like one side is you?

Speaker: I have two very different looking sides of my face.

Speaker: Which one is you?

Speaker: Does it feel like one is you?

Speaker: A little bit.

Speaker: Which side?

Speaker: My left side.

Speaker: Boom.

Speaker: I've asked a million fucking people this question, and autistic people have an answer.

Speaker: They frequently say that their different sides of their face look very different, and most people say their left side.

Speaker: But some people, including my mom, say their right.

Speaker: I say my left.

Speaker: I just figured this out because one time I was looking in the mirror, and I looked in my right eye, and I was like, who the fuck are you?

Speaker: I know, right?

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: But I've come to appreciate my right side.

Speaker: My right side is my powerful side.

Speaker: My left side is my sensitive side.

Speaker: I think my right side is like clearly like it's on my side because I think that's the side that like sometimes just gives me answers to stuff I hadn't really thought about.

Speaker: Oh, thank you.

Speaker: All right.

Speaker: So Chelsea gets to meet Kwame's sister and it's beautiful.

Speaker: I feel like up until that point, Chelsea is a little bit, I don't know, like she's scared that she has not met any member of Kwame's family.

Speaker: And so,

Speaker: I don't know.

Speaker: It feels a little ephemeral and not real.

Speaker: And then the sister shows up and she's like grabs Kwame by the ear.

Speaker: She just like could not be more ideal.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: She's perfect.

Speaker: And she's very, very happy.

Speaker: I feel like that's what family should do.

Speaker: Like I have that kind of family where it's like if this is like, okay, this is your person.

Speaker: This is your partner.

Speaker: They're in, you know, like.

Speaker: And that's just how you show your love to your family member is you show your love to the person they love.

Speaker: And I always find it like honestly pretty fucked up when families like don't do that.

Speaker: Like they think they get to choose whether they approve of like someone's partner.

Speaker: Yeah, you don't get to choose.

Speaker: Yeah, no, it's not.

Speaker: No.

Speaker: I mean, there are some exceptions.

Speaker: Like, I'm not saying you have to hug abusers or anything like that.

Speaker: I mean, if you are my family member and you've picked Jackie, I don't know what to say.

Speaker: Well, then you need more love than ever because you're probably hurting.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Hard.

Speaker: But I mean, I'm happy for Chelsea.

Speaker: I'm happy.

Speaker: No, I wanted to say I'm happy for Chelsea.

Speaker: I'm happy for Kwame.

Speaker: I hope this goes well.

Speaker: And we move on to the next couple.

Speaker: Kind of, yeah.

Speaker: Because there's just like little scenes with other people in this episode.

Speaker: But then, I mean, we end with Chelsea and Kwame's wedding and Chelsea gives a speech and Kwame sort of

Speaker: Like, here's some random thoughts.

Speaker: Oh, wait, I did write down some very vital notes in my just ongoing continuing to prove my own point that like, see, Zach is autistic.

Speaker: And I am sure of it because he's talking to his friend and his friend comments on how much Zach would think about like any kind of decision.

Speaker: He's like, I know how particular you are when changing your brand of milk.

Speaker: This dude and I will spend a week researching toilet paper brands.

Speaker: That's the end of the diagnostic criteria.

Speaker: A neurotypical person doesn't do that.

Speaker: They don't spend a week researching toilet paper brands.

Speaker: But I do, and that's exactly why I'm not the one who goes to the grocery store anymore, because I take way too long.

Speaker: This is why I like ordering groceries and just, I mean, part of the reason that I order groceries is because I'm disabled and I don't drive.

Speaker: But I also like it because I don't have to do the choosing.

Speaker: Yeah, I used to do that, but then Frida was like, I'd rather go to the store and just get exactly the stuff I like.

Speaker: She's particular, and I'm not that particular, but I'm happy to not do things.

Speaker: So it's like if she wants to do it her way, that's totally fine with me.

Speaker: Yeah, yeah.

Speaker: I really liked the way that Kwame just surprised Chelsea with that nice little speech at the end.

Speaker: Oh, hold on.

Speaker: I'm so sorry.

Speaker: I did have one more thing.

Speaker: Bliss and her friends.

Speaker: When Bliss is talking to her friends, she says, there's no data to tell you it'll last forever.

Speaker: Oh, my God.

Speaker: I feel like we should start paying attention.

Speaker: Do neurotypical people ever use the word data?

Speaker: I don't think so.

Speaker: No.

Speaker: Start a new drinking game.

Speaker: Take a shot every time somebody says data.

Speaker: And just pay attention.

Speaker: Who said it?

Speaker: that person is neurodivergent basically yeah it's only Zach Paul and Bliss are the only ones who say that and I know I say it all the time because that's how we think nerd recognized nerd

Speaker: So at this point, we are saying who's getting married.

Speaker: I mean, we haven't even talked about Brett and Tiffany, but they seem to be doing- Because obviously they're getting married.

Speaker: Because obviously they're getting married.

Speaker: I mean, Tiffany's having a really rough time.

Speaker: And then I think it was this episode, right?

Speaker: Where Tiffany's having a rough time.

Speaker: And Brett is just like, you know, I'm going to take you away.

Speaker: And he takes her away and then surprises her.

Speaker: Oh, yeah.

Speaker: That was the last episode.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: The sea plane.

Speaker: Also, we did finally understand more about like her stress.

Speaker: And I was glad that she explained it.

Speaker: And it's that she's having to explain this to every single one of her family members enough so that they will come around.

Speaker: She's expecting them to embrace Brett completely and

Speaker: see him the way she sees him and love him and I respect the shit out of that and I understand why it's stressful too

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: I, I feel like a lot of this is, I mean, it's really, really important that we know about the family and we know about the expectations of the family and how the people are trying to handle the family because much of most of a wedding is dictated by your family.

Speaker: You know, you're you're going to have to rank like wrangle all these people who might not get along with each other, who have differing opinions, whose opinions like kind of depend on each other's opinion.

Speaker: You might have like a parent who doesn't like the other parent's choice.

Speaker: So if your mom likes your partner, your dad might hate them.

Speaker: or if your mom dad likes them their mom might hate them like there's so many things going on and behind the scenes that we just never hear about so it was nice to hear about tiffany and the stress that she was going through and and i was kind of thinking man brad you need to show up like and take her away and like you know make her de-stress and he kind of did he kind of showed up i heard i heard your advice through the ether josh i'm on it

Speaker: Yeah, and he then shows up and takes the way in.

Speaker: Also, I feel like you can see when he had those framed photos, he'd taken it for himself.

Speaker: It's like they're also having a lot of great experiences together off camera.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Whereas like I don't think Micah and Paul are ever like bonding more getting know each other more.

Speaker: You never see progression when we check back in with them.

Speaker: But like Brad and Tiffany are actually like living their lives when they're not being filmed.

Speaker: Can we talk about just how tacky and artificial the whole ring making process was for Micah and Paul?

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Also, just like, it's so obvious that Micah is just pretending to be into whatever Paul wants to be into.

Speaker: And like, she's not going to do this forever.

Speaker: It's kind of like Jackie, but she's keeping her mouth shut.

Speaker: Yeah, because she's good at this.

Speaker: But she plays the long game.

Speaker: Do you think if Irina had found Zach attractive, she would have played the game?

Speaker: Absolutely.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Because like, if Zach had just happened to look like Paul, who she was attracted to, then yeah, she didn't care anything about Paul, but she just thought he was hot.

Speaker: She would have absolutely continued, you know, finagling her way into Paul's life if she had been able to.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: I feel like, yeah.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Also, it's part of why it's so hard for us to recognize when this manipulation is happening because people will do it for so long.

Speaker: It's hard to wrap your head around.

Speaker: People will spend years trying to win your trust when they're actually manipulating it.

Speaker: We just can't really fathom.

Speaker: It makes no sense why anybody would do that, but they do.

Speaker: They do it all the time.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And so we are here with one other person.

Speaker: Kwame and Chelsea standing at the aisle.

Speaker: No, no, no.

Speaker: We need to talk one last time.

Speaker: Huh?

Speaker: We need to talk about Bliss one more time.

Speaker: Oh, okay.

Speaker: Bliss's dad.

Speaker: What do you want to say?

Speaker: Is he in this episode?

Speaker: I think he is in this episode, no?

Speaker: We talked about that in the last episode.

Speaker: In the last episode.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And this episode, they're just in the hot tub like, oh my gosh, we might be getting married in a few days.

Speaker: Zock's like yeah I know I'm gonna do it I made a decision I'm gonna stick to it and Bliss is like uh yikes I don't want you to do it just because you made the decision he's like well that's not what it meant yeah yeah well I mean this episode is really gonna end up Kwame giving that nice little speech and I mean I feel like it's mean to end on a cliffhanger when they don't have the next episode out I don't like that yeah I don't like it either I love the cliffhanger when you can immediately watch the next episode that's a blast

Speaker: So before the episodes come out on Friday.

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: So Marshall and Jackie are definitely not getting married.

Speaker: Paul and Mike are not getting married.

Speaker: I don't think so.

Speaker: No.

Speaker: Kwame and Chelsea are going to get married.

Speaker: I think so.

Speaker: Whether they get married or not, they're going to stay together.

Speaker: They're definitely getting married.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And Zach and Liz.

Speaker: Honestly, at this point, I'm going to say I guess that those three couples get married and that they're still together.

Speaker: I'm just going to go for it.

Speaker: I wish them the best.

Speaker: All right.

Speaker: I think these crazy kids can make it.

Speaker: Crazy.

Speaker: All right.

Speaker: Well, we are going to keep this episode short because we gave you a longer episode than last time.

Speaker: We did it.

Speaker: We did it.

Speaker: It was short.

Speaker: We also...

Speaker: I also don't want to have an extra long episode just for the sake of having an extra long episode.

Speaker: We never do that.

Speaker: It's just we can't shut ourselves up.

Speaker: When there's something important, we talk about it.

Speaker: But if there isn't, I don't want to be talking about clothes.

Speaker: I don't want to be talking about cars.

Speaker: Those are not the things that you're going to be hearing from us.

Speaker: We're going to be talking about emotion.

Speaker: So if there's no emotion, it's just not.

Speaker: Who knows what we're going to be talking about?

Speaker: We go on tangents.

Speaker: We could talk about – I can talk about clothes.

Speaker: I like clothes actually.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: I will say I am – okay.

Speaker: Let's talk about the wedding dresses.

Speaker: Okay.

Speaker: And then I have one other thing I want to say about clothes.

Speaker: It's different.

Speaker: All right.

Speaker: Let's do it.

Speaker: So wedding dresses.

Speaker: I think they should be sparkly.

Speaker: No.

Speaker: Bliss's wedding dress.

Speaker: Yeah, it's like the sleeves are not what I would have picked, but I feel like she's going to pull them off.

Speaker: Okay.

Speaker: She's going to end up looking like a Disney princess, you know?

Speaker: Okay.

Speaker: All right.

Speaker: Go big or go home.

Speaker: All right.

Speaker: What do you think?

Speaker: What do you think?

Speaker: I'm not a fan.

Speaker: Just not a fan.

Speaker: It looks like it's from the 1970s.

Speaker: Oh, I love the 70s.

Speaker: Guess that's the source of our disagreement.

Speaker: That's the source of our disagreement.

Speaker: Chelsea's dress.

Speaker: Again, I mean.

Speaker: I just remember it's long.

Speaker: It's a very wedding dress dress.

Speaker: Yeah, it's white.

Speaker: It's really long train.

Speaker: I don't remember how the rest of it looks at all, but she looked really happy.

Speaker: And so I think it must have been good.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: All right.

Speaker: There wasn't anything bad about it enough that I would remember it.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: All right, so Micah's dress.

Speaker: Boring.

Speaker: Snooze fest.

Speaker: Yeah, not your thing.

Speaker: I hate minimalism.

Speaker: Yeah, it's like I hated the word timeless.

Speaker: They kept saying it's timeless.

Speaker: No, it's very modern.

Speaker: It's like you're having a wedding to somebody you met on a TV show called Love is Blind.

Speaker: This is of a time period.

Speaker: Like, this is not a timeless activity going on right now.

Speaker: Yeah, yeah.

Speaker: And that's okay.

Speaker: So let's get final wedding dress, Tiffany.

Speaker: I don't remember it, actually.

Speaker: I do.

Speaker: Yeah, was it good?

Speaker: It has a veil.

Speaker: It has a very long veil.

Speaker: And it's incredibly beautiful.

Speaker: I mean, she is gorgeous.

Speaker: Yeah, no, she definitely.

Speaker: I don't know why I can't remember it, but I don't think I could have remembered the other ones either before you kind of gave me reminders, so I don't know.

Speaker: I'm Googling them, so.

Speaker: Oh, okay, I guess I could do that.

Speaker: No, actually, my computer's too far away.

Speaker: I'm doing it for you.

Speaker: Okay.

Speaker: So the thing I wanted to say about clothes is another dead-on autistic tale.

Speaker: Micah complains about Paul, I believe it is, that the way he picks out his clothes is he just wears whatever is on top.

Speaker: Now...

Speaker: I have had multiple women who are married to autistic men who I know quite well complain to me about how their husband dresses like shit because he only just wears what's on top.

Speaker: And I also just wear what is on top.

Speaker: And this is an autistic trait.

Speaker: What does it mean, what is on top?

Speaker: Whatever's like, this shirt was on the top of my dresser drawer.

Speaker: When I opened the drawer, this shirt was on top.

Speaker: I put it on.

Speaker: Whatever's convenient, basically.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And you have like a few things you wear over and over again.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: My stepmom has been complaining about my dad's same three shirts he's been wearing for 30 years.

Speaker: And like if I have learned anything from many people talking to me about this, it's that none of us are going to change on this topic.

Speaker: Yeah, no, no.

Speaker: One of the things, and I know exactly why this happens, okay?

Speaker: It doesn't have to do with what you look like.

Speaker: What it has to do for me specifically is that I'm hypersensitive and I kind of don't want to feel the feeling of clothes on me.

Speaker: And every time you wear new clothes, they take a minute to like the feeling of you

Speaker: having them on you disappears after a few wearings you know you get used i mean it's way harder than that for me i frequently spend hours trying to figure out how to stand what my clothes feel like and changing them and thinking like no this isn't wrong i yeah i often have to pick up yeah i'm with you on that so

Speaker: But yeah, it's like we have some clothes.

Speaker: We know that we like these ones.

Speaker: And then we just keep them convenient.

Speaker: And then there they are.

Speaker: It's clean.

Speaker: But I have learned the only way to change your autistic loved one's habit in this way is to buy them some clothes that you like better that they also approve of and then put them on top and then we'll wear them.

Speaker: But we're not going to develop a sense of style just because you want us to.

Speaker: Yeah, it's just not going to happen.

Speaker: Sorry.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Like people think I have one, but that's just because like I have like a career and I know how to like dress up for that at home.

Speaker: My gosh, I look like shit all the time.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Just this is this is please understand that I do know when I'm home, I'm like a little goblin.

Speaker: Also, it's like, how are people going to say, no, Paul doesn't seem neurodivergent.

Speaker: He's just intelligent and a scientist.

Speaker: I'm like, oh, yeah, then how come literally it's the same phrase used?

Speaker: Like, we just wear what's on top.

Speaker: Like, these are just, they're tells.

Speaker: They're dead giveaways.

Speaker: You keep saying dead giveaway.

Speaker: I do.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And it kind of reminds me of that auto-tune horrible song.

Speaker: I don't know what.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: You don't need to know.

Speaker: Okay.

Speaker: All right.

Speaker: So we are going to end this over here.

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: And move on to things other than Love is Blind until the episodes drop tomorrow.

Speaker: Yeah, so really not much time to move on to anything else.

Speaker: And then we're planning to, yeah, watch the episode Friday and then record Friday and just like, blam, pop our episode up.

Speaker: Yeah, yeah.

Speaker: And then on Sunday, it's the live reunion.

Speaker: I cannot wait for that.

Speaker: I cannot wait for that.

Speaker: I mean, before we wanted to watch the live reunion because we wanted to see Irina.

Speaker: Now everybody wants to see Jackie.

Speaker: No, I don't want to see Jackie.

Speaker: I just want to see everything else, I guess.

Speaker: I think probably I'm most curious about Zack and Bliss.

Speaker: How are they doing?

Speaker: Did they work?

Speaker: Did this work?

Speaker: It went from being the longest long shot to something that actually makes sense to me.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Surprising.

Speaker: Surprising.

Speaker: yeah all right well um until then um till death do us part i am josh you can find me uh jshariar at twitter.com um well no at jshariar on twitter.com it should be in the info section for the video it shall be yeah

Speaker: I'm at Erica Heidewald.

Speaker: I'm everywhere under that name.

Speaker: Learn how to spell it.

Speaker: Please.

Speaker: Or don't.

Speaker: Okay.

Speaker: I've clearly been podcasting too long.

Speaker: Good night, everyone.

Speaker: Unless it's the morning.

Speaker: Good morning.

Speaker: Bye.

Speaker: Toodaloo.

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