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Season 4- Weekly Fantasy Corner (Premiership Semi-Final Preview)
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It's the newest episode of the Fantasy Corner. On this version of the FC we go over our XVs of the year for both Premiership and Super Rugby (if you're here just for the meat skip to about the 52 min mark). We go over the happenings in the our final CYL competition and then we talk about the rankings for each player/position for the Semi-Finals for Prem TRM. Some good convo had around a couple positions in particular, so grab your notepads and enjoy!
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Transcript
Introduction and Rugby Team Selections
00:00:08
Speaker
Hey, everybody. Welcome back. It is the Fancy Rugby Yanks. My name is Jared Dyke. I'm Ben Glauser. Let's get in. It's fancy time. This will be a fairly brief one with the exception of our 15s. But first things first, let's crack them. Oh, yeah. Well, I'm cracking a new one at least. I'm already cracked. Yeah, you are a crack.
15s Team Selections for Super Rugby and Premiership
00:00:27
Speaker
Let's go to our 15th of the year. So we have both regular seasons clamped up in terms of super rugby and premiership. Let's take a stab at our best ones. I definitely did this on the fly. So it'll be interesting to see if I've come up with anything too bad. I considered mine. And I'm still a little crossed up on two positions. Oh, I had a couple of that. I was just like,
00:00:55
Speaker
And I wrote down a name and I looked at it. I'm like, I might want to change that in a minute. So we'll find out. Maybe there's some, maybe there's not. But anyway, so let's start off with, let's go to
Debating Loose Head Position
00:01:08
Speaker
premiership. Let's start off with loose head and
00:01:12
Speaker
I don't know if we might have the same, we might have somebody different. I have Alice Gensch. Yeah, if you don't have Alice Gensch, you're wrong. The only other name I considered was Bevin Rod, because I think he's had a really good season for sale. He's gotten himself on an international duty now. And there were points where Rod didn't, it wasn't necessarily the nail-dawn number one for sale last year even, but this year I'd say without a doubt, if you're putting your best front row together for the sale sharks, Bevin Rod is in it.
00:01:42
Speaker
And he's one of those guys, like, he's one of those guys that just saw, and he's young, and he just solidly has a good game every single match he plays. Like, the reason Gengis is the easy choice is because he's like a super, like, you can't miss him. He's an animal. But like, Bevan Rod just does things, and sometimes you don't realize it was, you know, him doing it. And, you know, after the match, you look at his stats, you're like, holy shit, that's what he did so much in that match. Yeah.
00:02:10
Speaker
And it's going to get better.
Choosing the Hooker: George McGuigan's Merits
00:02:12
Speaker
Genj is the choice. He's the captain of the first place team in the Premiership this year and he deserves all the plaudits he gets right now. And like we said before, he's without a doubt England's number one. Yep. So, there's that. Alright, this is where things got funny already. What'd you go with? George MacWiggin.
00:02:37
Speaker
Okay, I'm not crazy. I think the other, and I want to say another name that I strongly considered, which was kind of out of the field, Tom Wilsoncroft, who I thought did a fantastic job. It was ridiculous. When, when given, you know, Jamie George had England duty, I think he was, I'm pretty sure Jinx was hurt for a little bit. And Willie was fan freaking-tastic and he was dead. So I did want to just give Willie a shout out, but yes, George McGuigan is the choice at number two.
00:03:02
Speaker
You can go with like, you look at the stats that like Creevy or Montoja had. Great hookers, no doubt. Great hookers, but like, and it's a but, yes. They get all the mall tries. Like that's, it's such an easy try. It's a cheap try. That's a fun try. Yeah. Like George McWiggin.
00:03:26
Speaker
was fucking a monster in the loose, like, just as a rugby player. Like, you know, if, okay, good, you can maul, he can do the mauling thing too, but he can do more. And he did a lot more this year. Like, for a lot of the good that Newcastle could dig out, unfortunately, they did not finish Bottoms, or fortunately did not finish Bottoms. Thanks to the results this weekend.
Premiership Player of the Year Discussion
00:03:49
Speaker
You know, really, he was the best, he was one of the best parts of that team outside of, like, Radland.
00:03:53
Speaker
Right, you know, well, I think Sean Robinson here and there. Yeah, I was going to say there's another there's another. Newcastle Falcon that's on my team. He's not my last one either. All right, so yeah, so let's move on tighted.
00:04:09
Speaker
Holly Hoskins. Same. All right. Good. We're on the same page so far. I know it's going to go left. I know it's going to take a hard left turn at some point here, but we're on the same page so far. Yes. Hoskins played himself, played brilliantly. He played himself into a Wallabies team. Finally, good for him. Like, that being just a huge moment for it. That factors into it. Same.
00:04:28
Speaker
So like he played that well that he deserved that. Like what a year he's had. He's he's my yeah. Yeah, I agree. I agree. I agree. Let's go. Who's your first lock? Freddie Clark. I got him in there too.
00:04:45
Speaker
And here's the thing, it's not because, and people are like, oh, because of your, it has nothing to do with this fantasy. Like remember when he's replacing a huge figure in Ed Slater for 99% of the year. And number two, he's doing a job that, you know, puts him on the radar for England.
00:05:03
Speaker
to that point. So to do both of those things and kind of being a fringe player for a long time and then playing that type of role and playing it so fucking well.
Top Locks of the Year
00:05:15
Speaker
Yeah, Freddie Clark definitely deserves anything he gets this year from here out. Like, okay, you have names and I get that there's names, but it's about who plays the best. And you know what, Freddie Clark, if I'm, you know,
00:05:30
Speaker
Yeah, Toge's out there. He's not in my 15th of the year, but that's because he didn't play enough. That's all it is. And so Freddie Clark, week in, week out, was crushing it.
00:05:40
Speaker
And, and again, an 80 minute player, like all the time, almost always. Yeah. And like the guy who I, you know, I'd noticed it like early in the year, but he comes on at the end of matches, like he makes tackles, but then all of a sudden late in the match, that's when he has an impact in the loose. And it's like, if you don't, he gets, he gets more effective as the game goes on. That's my guy right there. Yep.
00:06:04
Speaker
Yep.
Number Eights Performance Review
00:06:05
Speaker
All right. Well, sounds like we have different locks for the other side because my other lock is, in fact, Maro Toge. I mean, yeah, well, I mean, he is otherworldly. He makes such a huge impact when he is in there. And it's it is clear as day when the Saracens don't have him in there. And when he is, he is just
00:06:23
Speaker
he might be a seven point swing, honestly, you know, like, and that is, that's a big one for a four. You know, cause there are times when he's just like, that's my ball, I'm taking it. Right. So yes, he is, you know, regardless of the semi-liberative playing time, I'm still putting him in. Right. Mine, my other luck with Sean Robinson, because I'm not arguing either though. He and Freddie Clark are twinsies.
00:06:51
Speaker
And Robinson was more of a consistent player all the way through. He was good in the loose from the start. They've looked to feature him there. You can always find him with the sausages on. So it's like, okay, there's Johnny. And he's always busy in
Alex Mitchell: Standout Player
00:07:11
Speaker
the loose and super solid in the set pieces too.
00:07:17
Speaker
All right, this is where I bet you this is where things kind of go sideways. Six, I have Theodore McFarlane.
00:07:25
Speaker
I, he's on my radar for six because of how good he was. Um, but this guy has to be in a team somewhere, um, is, is a lock slash six sometimes eight somehow. Um, but John looked to Priya. Okay. And you know what? I'm glad somebody put that out there because if we didn't get him in to the back row here, I think I was going to give him a shout out. I'm glad somebody's got him in the team. He definitely deserves some plot. It's no doubt. Right. And I'll have more salaries anyway. So that's why I kind of.
00:07:52
Speaker
Yeah, I know. I like the job for Theo this year coming out of nowhere was absolutely. And the tries he scored were just so delicious as well. You kind of were like, oh, OK, he can play a little bit. And then all of a sudden you're like, OK, no, he's actually he's he's good in flashes because you haven't seen more than flashes. And then all of a sudden you're like, no, this guy this guy can play. I kind of want to see more of him. And then they showed more. And he just kept like, yeah. And it came to the point where he was
00:08:19
Speaker
you know kind of only playing with with guys away and then it came to the point where he was getting into the team with full noise and that's when you know you're one you're you're doing well and two um you're he still stood up in those moments in those teams as well so i could see him starting this weekend i wouldn't be shocked as long as he's healthy i wouldn't be shocked uh open
Best Fly-Half Selection
00:08:43
Speaker
Oh, premiership player of the year. Benjamin Erlba. Yeah. Erlba. Erlba. Yeah. And, you know, obviously, you know, he had an axe to grind because he wasn't making any England teams recently. For, you know, reasons left White Center, whatever. That is what it is. Eddie's not okay. We know that.
00:09:01
Speaker
So that doesn't shock anybody that he's that he played the way he did. And this is also, it also speaks to why Bristol had such a tough time. Because they did not have him. Right. And another guy, Max Malins, obviously. Yeah. And that was huge. Yeah. So, yes, but also at the same time, I hit my second, my second Gloucester player is, is Louis Ludlow.
00:09:27
Speaker
And he's had a great summer because he obviously got his first England caps. And it's not like he dropped
Selecting Centers: Key Players
00:09:35
Speaker
either. He continued to be the same leader, the same player. And really, you know, he's obviously one of the reasons that they stayed near the top this year. Skimmington did a great job with that team as well. But it's a good choice. It's clearly a good choice for captain as well for them as well. So I had a lot to love about Ludlow even though it didn't always show up.
00:09:56
Speaker
on stat sheets or on score lines, but damn, there's a lot to like about the guy. So I wanted to give him some love. So yeah, I'd love those my seven.
00:10:04
Speaker
By the way, I had written Ben Earl as my seven of the year before, um, before it was announced that he won the player of the year. I had that early. I'm not reacting to it. It was, this was already done by then. This 15. All right.
Debate on Wings and Fullbacks
00:10:21
Speaker
Um, number eight. I, you do not have the same number eight as I do. So why don't you start? Uh, mine's for starting.
00:10:29
Speaker
I mean, yeah, there's some because there's like 20. I feel like there's so many aids to get to give credit to this year. No doubt. It's like it's not Dom Brant. No, he he he was giving his good. But like, there are so many that played more than he did. And Sam Simmons had had a lackluster year to say the least. And then you had like
00:10:54
Speaker
Billy of a Napola suddenly coming showing like, Hey, you know what? I actually really liked playing eight and I want to play it super well and, and, and bash people a little bit. And then you had, you want to Augustus, um, like Louis Ludlam deserves to shout somewhere in here. Um, yeah, you could just go on. I went with Nathan Hughes, the bath version.
00:11:25
Speaker
Oh, we have lost Jared. I have no idea what the fuck he's doing. I can see him. I do not know what he's doing. He's plugging in a fan.
00:11:54
Speaker
That makes sense, it's warm. It's a toasty day in the Massachusetts. All right, I'm sweating my balls off. Good Lord. Okay. I'm kind of picking that shit up to save my life. It's what's in my eyes, it's not helpful at all. Oh, that's not good. It's not helpful at all, so I couldn't see shit. All right, there we go.
Player of the Year Candidates
00:12:19
Speaker
All right, I'm there.
00:12:20
Speaker
Okay. So I went through a whole spiel and I don't know how, where you, where you left. Cause I wasn't looking at you. Uh, you started out somewhere around Ludlow and maybe Augustus. And that was the end of the last thing I heard. Okay. Um, anyway, so I, cause I want to get to get your reaction to this, but anyway, my, my, um,
00:12:42
Speaker
My eight of the year is Nathan Hughes, the version. OK, OK, the best version, specifically the best version. I mean, yeah, he did play well, but when he went there, no doubt. Right. I mean, that was the dominant. That was that period of him playing there was the dominant eight of the year.
00:13:00
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, he was pretty hard to stop. Right. And he just made impacts on matches and for a team like that. So they needed it. They did. Yeah, they did. And I went with Fitz because of the aforementioned Ben Earl. And what an impact that was.
00:13:19
Speaker
with Earl not being at Bristol. So they needed somebody else to put their hand up. And let's be honest, your guy, Nathan Hughes, was not having a great season at Bristol to start off as their eight. And that's why he got loaned out a couple of times.
00:13:35
Speaker
Fitz Harding just stepped up and played huge for them. And obviously this is a Premiership team, but also in Champions Cup. It's not like it was just in Premiership. He performed on a lot of levels that most people have a hard time performing at. So yeah, I cannot wait to see what Fitz Harding does going forward. I think Bristol need to be very excited about that guy because he can play across the back row too. That's the other thing. So that helps too.
00:14:01
Speaker
It does. And yes, I don't disagree. Like there were there's plenty of eights this year that were that were arguably in there. So I don't think that you can go wrong with any of them. No. Yep. Yep. All right. Nine. The halfback. Alex Mitchell. Same. Oh, yeah.
Super Rugby Selections
00:14:20
Speaker
Same. Yeah. I mean, correct. Yeah. He's man. There was a remember like four years ago where there was a nine that were playing for Northampton that got into the playoffs.
00:14:31
Speaker
He was really good too, like, he must have learned a thing or two from that guy. I miss that guy. A fellow named Reinach. Yeah. And he's clearly picked up something and, you know, he has, and it's pointed out, unfortunately, a lot, which like he was, he does have moments where he's kind of like just a little bit out of gas.
00:14:53
Speaker
But then he finds another, he finds a way to recover, maybe the whistle blows or whatever, finds a way to recover and then just turns into a worldy. And it's like, Jesus. He does so much. Like, it's one thing you see like a Louis Rhysammit. He does a great, he makes great play and he gets to take a break.
00:15:12
Speaker
Truth. You know, like even, you know, your Marcus Smith makes a great play. He gets to kick, but like he can he has a chance to calm himself, catch his breath. Alex Mitchell makes a great play. He's got to get the fuck back up because he's got work to do. You know, like it's a really cardio demanding position.
00:15:31
Speaker
Yeah, he gets a, he needs a breather. Yeah. Cause he's run. He's like been sprinting for five minutes straight. Like he needs, yes. He needs a breather. Like that's cause he's good. It's not because he's out of shape. No, it's definitely not because he's out of shape. I don't think anyway, they asked that question stupid. Right. So awesome. So yes, Alex Mitchell. Um, and we obviously hope to see him more of him in a white shirt as well. This should be interesting. 10 AJ McGinty.
00:16:01
Speaker
I mean, you'll never get an argument out of me for AJ. Never, ever, ever. Never, ever. Yeah, I could give it to give me a give me a say. Look, it's George Ford deserves it. AJ, he gets the nod because look at sale when he plays and look at sale when he doesn't play. Look at Lester.
00:16:23
Speaker
when Ford plays and look at Lester when he doesn't play. One of them is okay. The other one goes from a top 14 to a bottom 14. Like that to me is, yeah, he's my 10 of the year. Like, you know, Queens didn't really miss a beat. They had enough in the locker, yeah.
00:16:44
Speaker
Right. Saracens didn't really miss a beat without Faz. He's just so great when he's around. But like they can do OK without him. They have the players. Sail doesn't. The only the only reason that they're like even remotely close to competent is because they have him when he when he's healthy. Not anymore. But, you know, right. They got forward. So they'll be OK. But I I did pick I did pick George Ford. Yeah. Oh, there's no question.
00:17:13
Speaker
Yeah, he did, you know, he'd started off the year not getting a lot of looks for England because they wanted to obviously test drive Marcus Smith that worked quite well. And he and you know, he's
00:17:23
Speaker
He's still playing incredibly well. And, you know, as far as attitude goes, I'm not necessarily a huge Ford fan. But his play this year definitely stood out. And it's really hard to argue otherwise.
Midfield Players in Super Rugby
00:17:35
Speaker
I don't think there's really... I can't say a bad word about his play whatsoever. I really can't. You know, I have a hard time too. And that's me trying to look for something. And I can't find anything. I can't. No, he's been quite good. Yeah. So, George Ford's my 10. You know, and we saw it.
00:17:53
Speaker
And you know, especially with he, we know he does the spiral bomb quite well. But again, the thing that makes him so good is when they have front football and they had the forwards to help with that front football. Now they have the centers to help with that front football. And he is amazing when he's got that front football, a lot of tens are, but he's actually really, he's very special when they have it. So, you know, credit to him all around, no doubt.
00:18:15
Speaker
All right, you want to go in numerical order? You want to go into the midfield, into the back three? Let's go midfield, then back three. All right, so 12. Andre Esterhazen. No argument on me. There's one other choice that may go in there, and that's Ben Hardianz. But no, Esterhazen was too dominant this year.
00:18:42
Speaker
like everything you'd want a 12 to be, the crash ball, the flowing play, like he can do anything. And he also, whatever he's doing, he brings the physicality to that and it's.
00:18:52
Speaker
It's delicious. I went with dings for my 12. Okay. So here's the end with him. It was we saw things kind of get off fast in the beginning of the season. And then there was that those dark days of the permission that you and I talked about and he was still in there doing the work. It just didn't pop because
00:19:16
Speaker
Again, it's those dark days. Sometimes it gets real, and it got really muddy and tough. And that's how, and that's, you have to be able to come out the other side of that. If you want to do well in this league, you want to win this league. And they did just enough. And he was, he was a part of it for me. And now that the last, you know, five, six games for the saints.
00:19:34
Speaker
they've been back to their old selves and they've got themselves into the playoff. And again, he thrived in that. So, you know, he went as they went or they went as he went, depending on how you look at it, but at the same time, he was also a very constant
00:19:50
Speaker
player in there. He was very consistent back. Yeah. There were very few guys that were in that Saints back line that were there for like 90% of the games. Right. Hutch disappeared for like 60% of the season, it felt like.
Back Three Selection for Super Rugby
00:20:06
Speaker
Yeah, he had a really slow start.
00:20:09
Speaker
Yeah, he came on late. Finally, it was like, I think, you know, around Six Nations, he got I think that woke him up like, oh, I'm. Yeah, he wasn't in the Scotland team. He's like, I got to fix this. Yeah. Yeah. So he's fixed that. But yeah.
00:20:24
Speaker
Dingwall has been the only one who's been, even when saints were not playing well, he was still showing. He was still like, oh, that guy, you know, yeah, Dingwall, Dingwall played all right. You know, not great, but there was no one around him who was playing very well. So what are you going to do? You know, it gets very lonely out there if you don't have much support from your teammates. It's tough. I know this from imagination.
00:20:49
Speaker
Yeah, it's, it's, um, yeah, so there's him and then yeah, nobody's gonna argue with Esther Hayes and Esther Hayes and otherworldly in many ways. Right. No doubt, especially, you know, starting with last year, then the final, he's just continued that and hopefully, hopefully he gets a call this for the summer. I don't know if they picked our team yet, but man, he needs it. Yeah. 13.
Super Rugby Player of the Year Candidates
00:21:13
Speaker
Alex Lozowski. Ooh, okay. All right. All right. All right. Shout out to Lars. I like it. Like who deserves it. I don't, you know, like, yeah, he, he, we, and we talked about it at the beginning of the year, like what a difference of a player he's become since he went away to Montpelier, came back and what a world of good it did.
00:21:35
Speaker
like he made it like we were talking like faz who because they would just use this they would use the same strategies with like he it's one thing when you know we talked about losing faz and they powered through they powered through that because of lasosky i mean he played like 13 almost every every match where he was either that or 10 um and he was he was the kicker when he had to be and he just nutted up and did he played
00:22:02
Speaker
as his role as a kicker and, and was spot on. I mean, what was he like some ridiculous, some ridiculous streak at some point, like, yeah. Um, yeah, just really solidified that team. He, he bounced it out in ways that, uh, you know, without Faz and Maylands and the guys who were, you know, we're gone for international duty. He, you know, he's the reason that they're, to me, the laws is the main reason why the Sarries are, you know, the hosting of playoff match.
00:22:31
Speaker
Yeah, no question about that. I was very unoriginal. I went with Chris Harris. Well, yes. That makes sense. He's so bloody good. And it's hard to ever... We talked about like Dings not having a bad match. I don't know if he has a bad match, honestly. It's rare he has a bad match. And that says a lot.
00:22:55
Speaker
And he's also thrived in the Scotland shirt as well. That's not a new thing for him. One of the best defenders without a doubt in the world, especially in a really tough channel. That's not fun. No, you're looking at the super fast players plus most 13s are usually good attackers as well.
00:23:15
Speaker
Yeah. And it's under under 12 at a 13 and plus you're tackling forwards too. Like you're tackling, you know, the wing, whoever's out there on the wing for the forwards, that's usually your man so that the wing can, you know, has the other wing.
00:23:29
Speaker
That's not a fun place to be. No. And, you know, he's developed this attacking game as well. So I really like Chris Harris in general, but I thought he played particularly well this year because you look at work lost or finished compared to last year. Yeah, as well. He was there was like it's between laws and Harris for me. And I figured you'd probably go, you know, either we went both with laws or one of us. Yep. Yeah, we'd mentioned him, trust me.
00:23:58
Speaker
Yeah. All right. Um, let's talk about our back three wing. Number one, Ollie Hassell Collins. Okay. No argument out of me. I guess they know that team was, you know, they, they get a lot of points to their forwards, obviously. Um,
00:24:16
Speaker
But OHC, you know, he was a difference maker in every match. He got hung out to dry a lot. But, you know, that was not a good team that he was on. Ultimately, they might have scored a lot of tries. But a lot of that, you know, he still got in and felt like hung out to dry. Like, Rona had a terrible year this year. No, no disrespect to him. It just was not his standard. No, that was no Ben Loder. Yeah, Loder was hurt so much. Parton was kind of...
00:24:43
Speaker
Yeah, he was either hurt or banged up or just poo. Right. And so he just didn't really have much outside of Ben Hard, you know, outside of the forwards and Ben Hard, there really wasn't much. And Hassell Collins was I think why, you know, he kept them in a bunch of games with
Fantasy Rugby Updates
00:25:00
Speaker
his athleticism. So deserves credit for that. Well, I'm going to say the man that is Tommy Freeman.
00:25:08
Speaker
Yes, Tommy Freeman had a great year. He's he he scores tries for fun at this point, right? And, you know, he didn't get into every game because he was hurt. But thank you, Eddie. Fuck you. But he's yeah, he was lightning in a bottle.
00:25:25
Speaker
And he's definitely a big reason that this team is playing in the playoff this year, because, you know, he scored some fucking amazing tries. And it's not like he's not doing it, you know, in sunshine and, you know, roses, he's doing it in some pretty shite weather on top of it all. So, and yes, it's a great team. It's a great Saints team. There's no doubt about that. He's had, he's got help. We already talked about the other guys that have helped him out, but fuck, he's good. That's all I know. That's all I know. He's just good. He's really good.
00:25:54
Speaker
What about your other? My other is Max Malins. I mean, what, what the league can try. So yeah. He did pick on a few bad teams, but he did, he did, but kind of doesn't, doesn't every good wing, um, you know, they score that they score in bunches. So, um, Oh, he did that quite a bit. Yeah. He did that a lot. And he also played a limited amount of time. It was just that, that, that, um, you know, the, the,
00:26:20
Speaker
ratio of time played to Impact had was extremely even right there. He did really well with the time he had. Agreed. Agreed. My other one is actually my first sales shark of the day. It's Tom Roebuck.
00:26:40
Speaker
Another Tom robot, another Tom. Yeah, I thought, you know, we talked about the exciting part of this new back three that sale hopefully keeps picking more often than not. I think him at this point. And he's, and really, you know, he's the only one that actually managed to stay consistent between, he had a little bit of an injury, but like, we saw Luke James kind of fade a little bit, Aaron Reed gets suspended, so he faded a little bit. He was the consistent one of those guys, and I thought he had a great year.
00:27:08
Speaker
Um, he gives me, he gives, he gives the thumbs up for me out there in the lane. Yeah. I agree with that. I think he deserves some recognition too. And so does Aaron Reed. Um, sale deserve better than they got. I don't know what else to say about that. Yeah. So it is. All right. So the man in the back, pretty airlines. All right.
00:27:32
Speaker
I mean, I went Tyron Green, but you can't... Yeah, I mean, neither is bad. And they're different fullbacks too, which is great. Well, they were until... Although Freddie started to attack. Right. That's the thing. Like, Stewart, to me, had an excellent last third of the season. And he was good the first, you know, two-thirds. Tyron Green was just class all the way through until he got hurt. Like...
00:28:00
Speaker
Yeah, that's the that was the difference for me. It was it was the time spent making the maximum impact and she would definitely deserves credit because he has been.
00:28:10
Speaker
Like we were talking about it, you can go back and rewind the tapes to the middle of the year when we were like, Stewart's great, it's for the high ball, but he's shit after that. Yeah, and now he's freaking it out. It was even after the first England match in Six Nations when he, like every time he got the ball, he like turned it over because he made a bad decision with ball in hand and it's just, it was not good.
00:28:32
Speaker
Ever since then, it's been like a light bulb, like clicked. And, you know, it didn't get him down. And actually, like, that's what he learned from. He learned from his failures. And, you know, mid-season, that's really tough to do. And, yeah, no credit to him. Definitely no problem selecting him. Yeah. You'll never hear me say a bad word about Tyron Green either, so. Right. Didn't think you'd have a problem with that. No, not at all. No disagreement here.
00:28:58
Speaker
All right, you want to go, we want to do these superlatives. I'm going to, let's start with a young player. Okay. Go ahead, if you want to do this first. Mine's Theo. I mean, that's an excellent one. My only issue there is he's 25, I think.
00:29:19
Speaker
Yeah, but this is his first year. But it is his first year. Yeah, no worries about that. So that's my choice with that one. And mine was Raffy Quirk.
00:29:29
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, fantastic year for the young man, unfortunately, ended up on the shelf at the end. But yeah, bloody good year. Definitely needs more time in a white shirt as well. Right. He earned it. So it's kind of along the lines of that Ollie Hoskins thing, like Quirk looks like he's ready to take over after Faf leaves. Oh, no doubt. And he looks like a, you know, got an inside track on an England jersey, so.
00:29:57
Speaker
Yep. No, no disagreement out here. Um, why do you play or you want to coach? Um, do player leave coach, you know, say the best for last player of the year over me. It was Alex Mitchell. Yep.
00:30:14
Speaker
I mean, he made such a and it was so it was so clear as day. That's the other thing. Like it was so clear as day what what they what they went down and they do have some good young scrum abs over there. Lamani's gone. He did okay while he was there, but not great.
00:30:32
Speaker
Tom James is pretty, pretty decent. Tom James has definitely shown some spots, but still you just, you saw the difference in when he was there and when he wasn't. And that just to me, just speaks like he is without a doubt one of the best players in this league. If not, and he, and you know, the fact that the team finished in the top four tells me play of the year, you know? I know he didn't get it, but it doesn't matter to me. Right. He did everything super well.
00:30:58
Speaker
like he he plays every bit of his position like there's there are you know any one aspect of his game others do as well but nobody does it better
00:31:13
Speaker
And nobody has the full range of tools. And so he was the most valuable to his team. You can take him off of Saints and they really don't have much. They're not on top for us for goddamn sure. Right. And that's no disrespect to the guys who are there. It's not just that. It's that he lets them play the way they play. Even if they can't set a good platform, he makes it a good platform.
00:31:37
Speaker
Like he's such a threat to the defense that he has to, like they have to account for him at all times. Otherwise, if they don't, every single time they don't, he makes them pay. And not many players do that. And yeah, he makes that team hum. And hum they do. So I was caught between two coaches. I went with Steve Borthwick.
00:31:59
Speaker
Yeah, I think I think the I think the honorable mention should go to George giving to know and the way he's turned cluster around. They were not a good team last year and this year they were a goddamn problem for a lot of teams. I went in a different direction, but I totally respect the board for both of those. I mean. For the for the reasons you stated, definitely. This guy dealt with a lot off the pitch to get a player arrested and.
00:32:29
Speaker
kind of went away and he totally has, and he's come from a team that like has been shit because it had like poor management and a poor attitude. They're a totally different team this year. They're taking, they're adopting his mentality, which is only gonna help them. He saw them through a really difficult time and they got better from it. And so my coach of the year is Alex Anderson. Love Sanders.
00:32:55
Speaker
Yeah. And it was obviously a dip for sale in a lot of ways, but at the same time, like, yeah, we, like we talked about with data player arrested and a lot of things that they, that, you know, made life hard. AJ got hurt, which was 0% help for them whatsoever. So for them to, and we'll talk about the match in a little bit, not at length, but they did finish on a high as well. So that, that does speak out to how well Sanderson's doing there. And yeah, I mean, you're taking over from fucking Steve Diamond.
00:33:25
Speaker
0% help on that as well. Yeah. So I mean, they finished sixth. So that's, yeah, I'll be, they'll play, they play champions copy of the way in either format. Right. And, but look, you look at the teams that are better than them and you're like, that's not a bad, that's not a bad group of teams up there. You look at the teams that are below them and you're like, you know, some of them aren't a bad group of teams either. They're there. They finished very respectively. And that's a lot due to their, their coaching. Yeah.
00:33:53
Speaker
All right. Let's do super rugby, and then we're going to run through the games as fast as possible. Yeah. I guess we can go quicker on this one. Yeah, that's right. Loose head. So I'm kind of in between on my loose head, tight head. It's one from each of the teams, but so I'm going to go with Alex Hodgman for blues on this one. Okay. Yep. Dominant front row. And I'm going to give him some of the credit. Yeah.
00:34:19
Speaker
I went with DeGroote. He was a good player on a not great team. And yeah, I would bet the farm we're going to see him in a black jersey this coming summer. So probably, you know, he's quite good. Solid season as always. The two shirt goes to...
00:34:39
Speaker
You're going to hate me. Full alpha ingot. But mostly because he, you know, that he was a big part of why that Brumby's team has done what they've done. Him being coming to back to form. No, and that's not wrong. I went with Eklan and we talked about the front row for that team.
00:35:00
Speaker
You replaced a legend really in Parsons as well. So it's not easy to do. No, but he's done it just fine. Yep. And tight. So this is where I was also split. So I could go either way here, but it's Angus Ta'avow or Ofa Tungafasi.
00:35:20
Speaker
Also neither one of those is bad. Right. I couldn't, I, I, cause I went with Hodgman. So I figured I'd go to Tavel, but I'll, so to want to go fast. He also deserves some credit. Yeah. Well, we talked about, you know, the, the Rumbi's getting a little bit better and back to form. I went with Al Atawa. So just, he is a great leader. Number one, there's no question about that in my mind.
00:35:43
Speaker
And, too, yeah, that pack got better this year, and he's always been a concert in that pack, no question. So I went with that. I'll tell. All right, engine room time. I have two Kiwis in the engine room. As do I. Which ones are yours? Sam Whitelock. Same. And Tupou Vai. Fuck you. Damn it. Same.
00:36:09
Speaker
Same. Yep. I went with those two. It was just, you know, and we talked about, so white lock was the most consistent of the crusaders guys. Cause it really fucking hurt, you know, and that's the thing like.
00:36:22
Speaker
You saw what happened when they were down to, you know, the wood and the bare bones that they had at one point in the Crusaders. It was bad. It was not good. And Whitelock came back and just really solidified that whole unit. And that speaks to not only how good he is, but also to what kind of a player he is and how he can just bring those young guys along too and just be like, all right, you, come here and just like grab onto my shoulder right here and just follow. Okay? Let's do that.
00:36:53
Speaker
And if I was probably the best in a really, really, really good locking, like that room, that second row room at freaking Chiefs is really good. And he was the best. Yeah. And he was one of the best. And he literally was one of the best locks in the competition this year, just all over the place. You know, he's there. He's there. He's there. He's every fucking where. And yeah.
00:37:22
Speaker
You know, in set piece in the loose, just doing everything. Yeah. Five tool player. And, you know, when he got picked for the All Blacks a few years ago, I was just like, Hmm, that's a strange one. They knew what they were doing with that one. Yep. They certainly did. No question.
00:37:39
Speaker
My back row is all from New Zealand teams, too. I only have one Kiwi in my back row. Okay. Well, I bet you it won't be the same. All right. My blindside, this guy plays everywhere, but I picked Blacketer. He's in Blacketer. You know, you left the game the other way. Yeah. Just again, I'll play all over the back row. A really good Crusaders team, like we talked about. And yeah, he's got he and his dad, but fuck, he's good.
00:38:06
Speaker
Yeah. My number six is Peter Gus Sowakula. Okay. He's in my team. Yeah. Well, I saw who I was going to have at eight, and I said, no, he's my eight. So Peter Gus, you can slide over to six. Over to six, you go, big guy. Right. All right. Well, yeah, he's my eight. Who's your seven? Charlie Gamble.
00:38:30
Speaker
It's hard to argue with that. It really is. And I'm not going to tell you no, but I had to put this guy somewhere. Look at his hair. Look at his face, everything. It's got to be on my team. Yeah. Yeah. I had to put this guy in somewhere because he just does so much for his team. He's the only one on the team on his team that I picked and it's already Savannah.
00:38:58
Speaker
Yeah, fair. You saw it in the Chiefs game where he's just like, fuck this, I am taking over and I'm going to get us back into this game. And he did. He literally just willed his way over the line to get over and be like, all right, we're back in this.
00:39:14
Speaker
You know, and that is the type of mentality he always carries. So, and they talk about like force for us for the All Blacks. He hates it. He hates it. And he's always just like, no, I don't want to. Like, wait until the last possible game where you need me to, and then I'll do it. Like, he hates it. So, and I love that in a guy that's out front as a leader. So, I picked Artie and my team. So, we know my A to B to Gus. Who is yours? My A is Harry Wilson.
00:39:43
Speaker
Fucking good, I'll say that. That's why Peter Guss moves over to six. And Harry Wilson, you get to be eight. And I'm a huge Harry Wilson fan, too. I really am. And I hope he's in a gold jersey to see him. You know, he struggled a little bit and then he got hurt. And they and they told him, like, here, you take some time and just chill out in the fall. And he used it well, clearly. And
00:40:07
Speaker
Yeah, he was a huge part of what little success the Reds could muster, because they had a lot of problems elsewhere. But you know, so I'll give him credit. Yeah, loved him. Loved Harry Wilson. Halfback is Jacob Gordon. Hey, mine too. All right. We're on the same page. Yeah, he played played the hell out of this thing. He did played well on a on a team that nobody necessarily thought they'd be where they were. Right. And lo and behold, here they are. And
00:40:35
Speaker
playing really well. And, um, it was good to see the Waratahs kind of get back to being the Waratahs and he was a reason. And, you know, dare I say he's better than Nick Phipps was. Um, so yeah, great player. I like, and I like him as a leader as well. Yep. Numero 10 is. I'm not gonna, you're not going to have mine. So I want to hear yours first. Uh, I went Bodhi. Yeah.
00:41:03
Speaker
Fair enough. Yeah. And, and you know, Bodhi was a little banged up. Richie was really, really had problems, um, both with rest and, and injury. So, um, I thought Bodhi was a little bit more consistent and yes, you saw already did in a, in a team that.
00:41:18
Speaker
wasn't supposed to win the other week against the Brumbies or the war. Yeah, just not knocked it through. No problem. So no, no, yeah, no argument there. Mine kind of similar to how I did it in the prem.
00:41:36
Speaker
When Bowdoin wasn't around, Parafetta was actually one of the highest scores in the league. He's in my team. So he's not in my team, but then again, neither is Bowdoin because my number 10 is James O'Connor. Because when he's not around, that's a different man. That's a bad team. Yeah, you're right. This Red's team with James O'Connor this past weekend stands a chance.
00:41:57
Speaker
like, you know, any kind of chance, we know James O'Connor in that lineup. No. Yeah. They were boned. No. And I was thinking about, like, there's a 22 point match. Could O'Connor have made up that 22 points? It sounds silly, but the margins are so fine there. But yes. Yeah. A lot of things could have gone better for him, no doubt. Right. So James O'Connor is my 10 of the year. You want to go back into the midfield again? Yes. Yeah. All right. So inside.
00:42:24
Speaker
Do you know how much I want to say this name? If you've listened to the pod, you know I don't want to say this name.
00:42:32
Speaker
I don't want to say the same, but find me a 12 who had a better, consistent year, all year, making an impact the whole way through than, than Quinn to Pia. Yep. I mean, a little bit. Yep. Pretty well out there too. He had a good season. So he was one of the top top, uh, uh, meters carried in for, in the year. Um,
00:42:56
Speaker
Like what I think one of the top try scores was up there. No, thank you. It was up there, but yeah. Yeah, two pi was was fifth in meters carried.
00:43:05
Speaker
Pretty good. Pretty good. I think that's a damn good year as a 12. Yeah. Most of that is a 12. So that's not, you know, every one else up there, except for Harry Wilson is a back three play. There you go. That was another reason why I chose Harry. Yeah. It's a good, it's a good reason as well. My guy usually play, has played 13, but I slowed him into 12 Isaiah Parise.
00:43:29
Speaker
It was an ouch when he had to take a seat. You saw a little bit of the difference with that as well. I really liked him. They have a nice little plethora of young, talented centers in Australia and he's a part of that. I hope he gets picked to wear a gold shirt.
00:43:53
Speaker
Uh, 13, we're going to have the same 13. No, we're not. I don't think so. Okay. Unless I went with. Yeah. No, we did not have the same 13. Cause I went with Appa Salome Vota. But I like Vota. That's a good pick. I was thinking, I was like, and I did manage to shove one of the new guys into this team. So, um, but yeah, I liked Vota a lot that I played really well. We talked about.
00:44:17
Speaker
guys that stood out for the Drua this year and for and for Pacifica but he was definitely one of those names and that was really cool to see right you know somebody we didn't know before the season kicked off now he's going to be a name that we all look for yep and he's in the he's he's in the Fiji team um like he's earned it everything's yeah he's totally
00:44:38
Speaker
he's probably there starting 13 I don't know who else you'd pick so. No me neither. yeah so back three wing number one is.
00:44:51
Speaker
Manasa Mattaelli from the Western Force. When he wasn't in the team, they were fucked. They were totally fucked. He was like sometimes just their only player and he would still just run through five guys and as if he had a team around him because he just was that fast and powerful.
00:45:15
Speaker
Absolutely, I think deserves a shout at this. Yeah, he does. He does, he does. So one of my wings is well, Jordan.
00:45:22
Speaker
Okay. He's in my full back. Yeah. Okay. Well, my full back's different. So yeah. Yeah. So he's in there. Um, right. Yeah. The strike rate from this kid is just ridiculous. Yeah. It's absurd. It's really absurd. Fucking around out there. He's screwing with everyone else. And I mean, everyone else that's out there, that includes everybody you think of right now. He's just fucking with everyone right now. He really is.
00:45:48
Speaker
He's putting with the good kind. Like, yeah, OK. Well done. You don't feel that bad when he beats you. He sees a nice guy. No, you don't. Yeah. Wait, so who's your wing? So my other one, your other one. Yeah, you're right. My other wing is Lester Fanganuku. Good one. Good one. Like like a lot for obvious reasons for very obvious reason.
00:46:17
Speaker
I wouldn't want to talk to you now, Tava Tava, not why. Just a beast of a man. And man, I do not envy anyone that's to go against him. He's, he's 0% fun to tackle. Zero out of 10 would not recommend. Yeah.
00:46:37
Speaker
So yeah, and again, a standout and a team that, you know, we were all excited to see. So and a name we didn't necessarily know, but now we know it and we're all going to be looking for it. So that's really, that's really awesome. Right. That's why we love those teams. So you said your fullbacks. Well, Jordan, mine is Steven Parafetta.
00:46:54
Speaker
Yeah, fair. That's, that's where I put him. I was like, he needs to be in a team, but I'm going to pull back and I'm going to put Bodhi at 10. Right. Terrifying. Yeah. My only blues were in the front row. So I was like, there you go. Yeah. Yeah. I had one. That's kind of why that's one of the reasons they needed to be, you know, I could, you can't go without Jordy and Parafetta and then just shut them out everywhere else. That's not, that's not cool.
00:47:18
Speaker
Right. The hell deserve credit. They were just like to me, the blues were just so fucking good from top to bottom. And like and the bench that it's like it was hard for me to give any of them like. They're just so fucking good. It's hard to be like, oh, that guy. Like they'd be fucked without him. Yeah. All right. Play of the year or no. The year. The year you'll like my rookie of the year.
00:47:46
Speaker
because there's one and a half of them. The one is Josh Morby. Oh, Morby, yeah. Yeah, he was really good. Yeah, and the other one who's kind of in there too is Jose for me. Yeah, I'm excited about Morby and we'll talk about semi-finals in a little bit, but yeah, I'm really excited about that. I went to an admin for Wartos.
00:48:10
Speaker
There were guys that were obvious. They were counting on Ben Donaldson, Will Harrison, both those guys, not healthy for a good, large chunk of the year and to never made them competitive and got them into, you know, a playoff. So I give him a load of credit and that's only going to do him good as well going forward. So credit to him and the whole thing. POI.
00:48:38
Speaker
So he was not in my 15. Oh, really? Because he didn't play enough. But there was no question about it when Brody Retalek was in that lineup. Okay. It's such a different team when he's on the Chiefs than when he's not. So when he's missing, when he's on rest or injured, you know, and this is just to say like, they when they didn't, you know, they didn't have Sam Kane this past weekend, but
00:49:06
Speaker
Right. You know, on the pitch, you didn't really notice, you know, they have good players that are back him up. When Vitalik's not in the lineup, you're like, damn, this there's there's there's some missing element to that team or the opposite. When he's there, there's an element that just isn't.
00:49:20
Speaker
Isn't there when he's not around. Um, so to me, that's, that's, that's why he's my MVP. Yeah. Play of the year. So my play of the year is the guy that just doesn't, that just does not stop scoring and it's well charted. Yeah, that's fine too. Yeah. Can't stop. He can't stop himself, let alone anybody else. So the man, the man is just possessed. And, um, like I said, you know, the best all black team this year has well, Jordan in it. You should never leave that line up.
00:49:51
Speaker
There's almost any other position, you could have an argument, but Will Jordan is in that 15. Yeah, like put him in like dark, deep, like permanent marker. Coach of the year. Leon McDonald of the Blues. Okay, that's a good one. That's a really good one. And yeah, I mean, shit, you beat
00:50:17
Speaker
beat the Crusaders in Christchurch. That says a lot. It really does. There's a reason they're the one and the Crusaders are the two, and that's it right there. It is, and he's just done an excellent job this year. It doesn't really matter the lineup. He's done a good job mixing the lineup, and even when he does it, they come out on top. They're always a threat.
00:50:40
Speaker
Like they're just what you call a well-coached team. Cause there's nothing, they don't, there's no obvious weakness to them. And even if there's an obvious weakness, even if you think I can score on them, they're going to put numbers up on you. So it's, it's a race to, to 40 essential. Right. Um, I went with, um, funny enough that we were talking about the guilt. He's Darren Coleman.
00:51:03
Speaker
Uh, and the word toss. Um, yeah. Yeah. That was a bad team last year. Remember that it was a very bad team. They got embarrassed many a time, both in super OVAU and trans Tasman. And this was not a fun team to play this year. They beat through, they, they beat the Crusaders as well in, you know, grantors in Sydney, but still like.
00:51:22
Speaker
That's not that doesn't matter where the number of people that had that on their cards is fucking very low. So right. Yeah. And that and that's a credit. And, you know, we talked about Edmond and a couple of the guys that have that have been both yours and my team. But overall, like Darren Coleman is the one that's put that piece of thing together. And they didn't have hoops for a while either. No. So it didn't. Yeah. All that. Right. Oh, I'm sorry. I wasn't thinking about this guy lately. But who is their number seven last year?
00:51:53
Speaker
Um, even without Hooper, they had a guy who was actually, who was doing all right. Like, um, yeah, I can't remember who it was being gamble was like their third choice into, to fill that role. So it's like, you got, and he's actually done a really good, like that's a guy who, you know, yeah, he chose to, to trust another, you know, like, okay, the guy I want hasn't been getting it done. I'm going to.
00:52:15
Speaker
having to take a seat, throw a gamble out there and well, there you go. Like it, the things, you know, the strings he's pulled and had to pull, um, have worked. So fuck. Hell yeah. Yeah. Loads, loads, loads of credit to him. Um, so 15s. All right. So we're going to go to ship Yanks league and do, do, do, do, do, because we're, we are,
00:52:43
Speaker
We're all out of time here, kids, but you're down to one top. Yeah, this is it. This is it. And only two weeks left. Yeah. And sadly only, only TRM no more. Nope. Nope. Right. This year, but hopefully we get back to that now, but that's hard. He would be done by now anyway. So yes, it would be. This will be the end as well. It's true. That is true. All right. Um, kind of a soft week for a champions league. I was.
00:53:10
Speaker
Sad to say I was game week rate 233 and I was the best score in the league, unfortunately. So kind of a soft one for us, boys. Poorly done. Yeah, not awesome. Yeah, but it was also a weird week because like, nobody made a bad decision. Like you had like Captain Alice Ganj. He only has 16. You know, three of us did that. I captained Freddie Clark, who only had 20. Right. I mean, it was it was total reversal, like,
00:53:38
Speaker
You know, I could, you know, I'm sure there are people out there who captain Freeman with 52 so like that's going to affect rankings when there's, you know, the, the main player, the guys who have been consistently scoring week in week out.
00:53:53
Speaker
none of them show up. Yeah. None of them in the forwards. And so, yeah, like, right. Even like, even if you went, uh, Alex Mitchell, who we, we, we, we had 17, he had 17 did not have that one out there. Excuse me. So it's like, you,
00:54:11
Speaker
Yeah. What are you, what are you going to do? Someone's going to have like a good week. That's not you. So I don't think we, we did too badly. It's just that some people out kick their coverage by, by going little nuts. Yeah. Like going outside the box. So it's pretty, pretty close there. Um, yeah, but so the, so he hasn't moved a ton to say the least. Um,
00:54:38
Speaker
Yeah, there was, it was exactly zero movement last week. You're putting a little bit of distance between yourself and, and Anton though. Yeah, there's still a hundred as much still need to still need. I still got work to do. Right. Work to do. It's, it's not outside the realm of possibility, but it's going to take some doing in two weeks. I'm going to do my damn just to make sure that's yeah. Let's be sure that doesn't happen. Shall we? Um,
00:55:06
Speaker
But yeah, so it's, yeah, no movement. Ben, one, Duncan, two, myself, three and time for Mark five, character six, George seven. And Justin is at the bottom right now. Um, those that didn't see the updated, um,
00:55:24
Speaker
overall standings after we had a couple of closeouts, um, with champions, uh, cut closing out for super brew and, um, super rugby closing out. Um, I didn't, like I said, it did lose to Anton, unfortunately, but that's how it does. Um,
00:55:38
Speaker
Currently, as it stands, George is in first with 18, Ben second with 14, I'm right up his butt with 13, Mark with 11, Duncan with 10, again, right up his bum, Anton and Justin, Saf is tied at eight, something about eight and Saf is, is there a joke out there? I don't know. And then Carrick, Carrick's on a duck, unfortunately. He did ask, he's like, how am I doing? I was just like, don't look. Even George is like, yeah, dude, not pretty, don't look.
00:56:09
Speaker
Sorry, we love you anyway, Carrick. We do. Yeah, and I will be a little bit better with my, yeah, getting on that shit next year. And we'll have some better,
00:56:25
Speaker
Better stuff with D2, which just wasn't on it. I think I'll like nominate a captain or something like that of Division 2 to help us get all the right competitions in line, stuff like that. Yeah, it would be easier. FRD, I'm sure FRD will give us a hand too and make sure everything gets organized because they seem like the nice type of fellows. But we might do...
00:56:49
Speaker
something with Patreon and FRD next year in terms of league and then also with TRM as well. So just kind of keep your eyes peeled before the season kicks off next year to see what kind of stupidity we're kind of over here.
00:57:06
Speaker
I am inside the top 200, which is my number one goal for this year. I wanted to be in the top 200 and currently sitting at 162. So, hey, maybe I can go for 100. Right. I'm still top 25. I'm 22 overall. Well, didn't end up moving.
00:57:22
Speaker
Well, no, yeah, I mean, it's pretty steady over there. Right. All right. So we have, instead of our usual silliness with start-set, we're going to talk about ranking each position. When we put out the sheet on Friday, I think what we're going to end up doing is like props and hookers and then like back five forwards.
00:57:46
Speaker
And then we'll do same scrum half fly half and then back five backs because there's so much versatility between a lot of those players as well. Right. But for the sake of simplicity here, we're going to talk about players that play exclusively one position or more often than not one position. Right. So with that,
00:58:12
Speaker
Talk about props. So Genge is in most teams. I don't think there's a doubt about that. Is it Macko and Kock after that? Those are my two other props. Yeah. Now, I think the Quinn's have a lower ranking against the, the lowest ranking of the teams left against props. Are you starting both series or are you going to start, pick a series and start Genge too?
00:58:37
Speaker
I think I'm going to go Genjin and Mako. Okay, we go to the loose heads, because they're, again, Genjin is impactful he took kind of this less last week off it was it was a go through the motions week for him. And a lot of Lester really they weren't really, they didn't have to put the hammer down too hard.
00:59:00
Speaker
Yeah, I think Gens is going to light it up. It's his kind of match. And I'm going to flip the coin there, whether you start Maco or Cocker's, but...
00:59:12
Speaker
with Mako is healthy. Um, so the, the, the difference in the, in the regular season is that I would prefer to have Vincent cock cause he's better for the money, but now the money doesn't matter at all. It should be play money. So, right. So, cause if in the end you can always pick up some shags or like 90 K so you can, you know, always sort that out. Yeah. Oh yeah. I'm, I'm looking at,
00:59:38
Speaker
because I have my team store and now I need to figure out how I can develop in 28 without being stupid. So that's all you need to really worry about. I picked an investment team of players who I thought their money would go up and then I'll sort my team out before Saturday. But those are my props. Like some of the guys, I'm like, no, you're my guys.
01:00:00
Speaker
The other, the other three or the other two, excuse me, props that are, you know, semi highly owned or Marlon Waller. And the only one of those I would even come close to considering is Marler. Waller is nah. The only one outside of these three that I would consider is low.
01:00:19
Speaker
He's not been in good form, but he has actually scored when he started. He's been coming back from injury and it's not been good. But that's still, even with all of that, he's the only one I would consider outside of these three. He's the only one who could go. He could have 40.
01:00:40
Speaker
You know, I don't see any other prop in this, you know, other than these these four really that could that could hit that kind of kind of score. Right. All right. Hook. So of the four that you presume are starting for these teams, Mattivacy, Montage, Walker and George as and I'm not this isn't this. I mean, you're talking about top four hookers in the league right now.
01:01:06
Speaker
Walker is probably four. I don't think that's a question. No question. I think it's now a matter of where do you land on the other three? And I don't think that's an easy answer either. So here's the key that you have to sort out. Matt of AC is flanker eligible.
01:01:29
Speaker
He is, that's true. So you could use all three of them if you need to. And that's I think where I'm going to end up. I think I'm going to end up with Jinx at that hook. Matt of AC is probably going to be one of my flankers.
01:01:44
Speaker
And then Montoya will be able to back up. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, I've had Mattabasi most of the year and there's not been many games where I've been disappointed that I started them. So to his credit. I mean, Jinx was always tough because of the money.
01:02:01
Speaker
Right. But now that's not an issue. I don't have an issue with that. Right. Like name name me someone who's going to like Mattivacy went off. He had 45 last week. I mean, you know, he's outside of when they play bath. That was a shit match. But he's been he's been consistently in the 30s. He's crushed it. I don't see why you wouldn't like what other flanker are you going to have, you know,
01:02:27
Speaker
Yeah. Right. Pretty good. That's where I am there. Right. All right. Locks. We have.
01:02:37
Speaker
And you have a few of those. We do. And currently I only have two locks on my team, which is, but that's, again, it's my investment team. And some of them are out now. Some of them are out. No, some of them are flanking eligible. So Wells, the secret ribbons, tis, and Maro are some of the top owned ones. Absolutely. Those should be on like, some of those will be on my team. Yeah. And I think I, I think currently I have three of them.
01:03:02
Speaker
Maybe I'm wrong. I have a Toej and Wells on my team. Yeah, I have Wells and Maro and I might have Tizz, I can't remember, hold on. That's just for now. Yeah, that could all change very easily. I plan on changing it. I just don't know which of them, like Tizard, I figure it will start, but at the same time, if Levis is playing, and what if they do Levis and Will Evans, what does that do to Tizard? Like that's... Well, Tizz isn't playing in Levis' old role, so...
01:03:30
Speaker
And he's been doing it. And that's why he's been raking in the points. That's why he's been raking in the points. And Levisa is playing six now, which is less than ideal for a guy that you would prefer to probably prefer to have playing a lot for the sake of his points. Right. And then Will Evans has been, you know, all these guys are stealing points. And then that pulls Dom Brant out like it's all a suck right there because there's the same points are out there for, you know, all four of them, which fucking sucks.
01:04:01
Speaker
Right. Truth is, you know, it's OJ. Yeah. Like Theo is probably the place that would, that would be a thing. Yeah. Um, and unfortunately a secret has become irrelevant since Maro's coming back and not to say that he's not been good and not been not played. Well, Maro takes the points away from him. Unfortunately, that's just how it is. Um, I think there were like one or two matches where Maro got 50 and Nick got still over 30, but other than that, it's like, no.
01:04:31
Speaker
Nope, nope, pretty nope, nope, nope. Players that typically play out and out flanker, top owned ones were Earl Shocker, Aliebenburg, Laws, which makes me scratch my head a little bit, Martin, again, makes me scratch my head a little bit, Ludlum and Theo.
01:04:49
Speaker
Theo went up as the year went on. So that's it. Why wouldn't I put Matt of AC there? It's not a good, it's not a very deep squad there. I think you can probably have a case for, depending on, it really depends on what you get out of Theo for me. So if I have to pick two of that right now, guys that play otherworldly sometimes, it's Earl and Theo.
01:05:17
Speaker
The other two, the other two, the other, you know, four or five here, laws is not a good point score. Neither is Martin. Leibenberg's hot and cold. And so is Loveham. Right.
01:05:29
Speaker
So those of those ones I want are the teams they're playing to and you got to be like, well, you know, I would look to the to the Saints because the way they attack and the possibilities they have. But then I look at the fact that they're playing luster, which is not helpful. It's not good. Nope.
01:05:49
Speaker
So that fucks that up. So that's why I'm like, Matt, yeah, that's why I'm I'm kind of a little high on among other things, Sam Medivacy. And then man wearing the eight shirt, we have Dom, we have Augustus, we have Visa and we have Billy. I have all three of yeah, I have all three of those on my team, the first three. I don't have Billy. But again, that's at least one of them will get cut.
01:06:20
Speaker
Yeah, right. I think of them in terms of rank, I think Billy's got the best matchup. Likely. So yeah, I mean, I've had Dom and Augustus in my team. Dom, most of the year, Augustus, I had him only for a brief minute. So
01:06:41
Speaker
Those are probably the two that I would pick, but to discount the other two is not really a good idea either. And the only problem I have with Visa is we know he's got a tendency to find a way to get a yellow card, which is really problematic. And he hasn't found himself in too many high pressure situations this year. If that's what it was last year, if it just got a little too much, he lost his head. And this will be maybe the first time
01:07:11
Speaker
this year where it really will matter because they've been crew. They've Lester have just been a fucking machine all year. They may be early in the year. There was a little touch and go, but they've been that solid number one for a long time now. And Clinton clinched the home quarterfinal or Combs MI.
01:07:30
Speaker
Fairly a while ago. Like, so it hasn't been too much pressure, really. So this is now. Now it's when it matters and we'll see how he responds.
Player Performance Analysis
01:07:38
Speaker
Yeah. And be very, I'm not, I will not bet on him. He's going to, I'm certain, certain he's going to get cut for my team. Yeah. It'd be very interesting to see how that goes. I'm checking one thing on him. I want to see what he's done in terms of prem performances. And if he's done anything silly like cards, um,
01:08:00
Speaker
So let's see, you hit a string kind of middle of the season, round seven, 10 and 11, you get cards. Yeah, list and awesome, three straight weeks that he played. Two of me started, one of them came off the bench, so not awesome. But other than that, it's been a nice steady,
01:08:26
Speaker
rate of scoring, especially to end the year, 21, 31, 39, 31, 12, 31, 31, 11, 30, sorry, I'll try that again, 21, 31, 39, 12, 31, 31, 11, 32, 28, 35, 25, that goes all the way back to around 15. Not bad.
01:08:49
Speaker
Not only that, but that round 11 match where he got that third yellow. Ever since then, he has only been removed from a match twice. Around 15, he played only 40 minutes. And then around 24, he played 68. Other than that, whether he was a starter or reserve, he played every minute. So that's the other thing you got to factor in. That's helpful too.
01:09:13
Speaker
You know, he's going to play. He's like he's going to play 60. You know that. So you get that. But that bonus points, there's somebody always gets pulled early and you're like, what the fuck? No, get the fuck back on the field. God damn it. Right. If that, you know, that that three points, whatever it is, could be big, depending on how slim scores are. Mm hmm. True. True. Because everybody's going to have a lot of similarities. Mm hmm.
Best Scrum Half Options
01:09:37
Speaker
Scrum half. Cara Davies and everybody else is kind of on the wayside. Yes. Oh, yeah.
01:09:45
Speaker
Or Davis, Mitchell, excuse me. No, no, no, it's Alan Davies. He's your guy. Fucking asshole. I'm an asshole. Sorry. Yes, it's Kara Mitchell. Sorry. Geez, I just praised him all the way up and down both in the 15s and in the previous pod and fucking cocked that one up good.
01:10:05
Speaker
No, Ella Davies, he's my friend. Yes, I need more beer, right? Yes. Cara Mitchell and Davies and Youngs can just fuck off. That's literally, you're in flip-a-coin territory there. Yeah, it's true. I think.
01:10:20
Speaker
I think Gair has the better matchup because Saris give up the points to the Scrum app. So that might be the winner. I agree. Fly half becomes, here's the thing about fly half. We know everybody's gonna favor Marcus Smith, but you could legitimately pick any one of these guys and say that's gonna be
Fly Half Strategies
01:10:38
Speaker
okay. And it sounds really weird to say, but I think Dan Bigger is the loser out of this whole thing, which is really fucking weird. So here's the other question is,
01:10:47
Speaker
Do you throw Faz at 12 or at one of your centers? As your center. And if you're going to do that, you're banking on either Ford or Marcus having a great attacking day and you're giving Faz the K. Exactly. That's it. That's the only thing I can think of. Yeah. And I think I tried that in something. I might have tried that one week with maybe in prem with like a center being my K.
01:11:17
Speaker
So yeah, it's not outside the realm of possibility whatsoever, but. Well, the thing you have to remember is that was a legitimate strategy two years ago. It was. So it's like, this is something where we're pulling out old tricks now. Yeah. This is, they were going deep into the, into the well.
01:11:34
Speaker
But it works, because Ford and or Marcus, I think I'm leaning towards Ford having a bigger non kicking day. Yeah, well, that game will probably be a little bit more open to I would guess. Yeah, maybe not. Well, I mean, the Saris Quinn's could get out of hand.
Match Outcome Speculations
01:11:56
Speaker
Actually, both of these matches could get out of hand, but I think of that, they could also be tight. Like, that Quinn's saris could also be like a fucking knockdown drag out, potentially. Whereas, I mean, so could Lester Northampton, but even if that's the case, Ford could still have a decent day running because he does that.
01:12:22
Speaker
That's why I'm, yeah, if I'm going, if I'm going feral at 12, I'm likely to put four to 10. Gotcha. Not a terrible idea.
Player Value Growth
01:12:31
Speaker
Or if you really want to get cheeky, put fur bank there. That's a possibility. I've actually kind of circled around on my brain, believe it or not. Right. Um, yeah, I had that one go through, uh, centers.
01:12:45
Speaker
So the top owned at this point are Esther Hazen, Wozowski, Dings, Marchant, Tomo, and Hutch. Yep. Correct on all fronts.
01:12:56
Speaker
Um, and I still have Porter on my team, but that's cause I don't mind him at all, but he's, he was nothing in value. He's on my, like I said, he's, this is the development. He's he was one 48. He's now up to one 54. So there you go. Like I just never got rid of him and that's paid off. So yeah, keep by him. Everybody go by. Um, goodbye. So if I have to pick these, uh, these two,
Center Players for Upcoming Matches
01:13:28
Speaker
I think my choices are Esther Hazen and Tompkins, which I'm not loving. I mean, Marchant Murley is an option. Yeah. And that's the thing. It is an option, but like Hutchinson, we're talking about out and out centers, obviously. Yeah. I know. It's just the guys who are eligible. It's, it's, uh, I guess Hutch is a possibility for me too. Yeah. He's out there. I
01:13:56
Speaker
You're kind of in flip-a-coin territory because they're all so good. It always depends on who's across from each other as well. Exactly. But Esther Hazen, I think, he's still got to figure this out. Because he's going to run it at Ford. He's going to, like, he lives for shit like that. Like, he's like, oh, you? Yeah, okay. I'm going to, like, I know I'm getting tackled, so I'm going to choose that you tackle me.
01:14:24
Speaker
Because I have that choice. And like not not every 12 really understands that that's an acceptable outcome to get tackled by George Ford, because that means something you're probably going forward, at the very least.
01:14:45
Speaker
But yeah, like, and then he's got those offloads. So, well, I mean, oh, he's running it fast. Oh, no, I'm sorry. I flipped that. S Raisin is running a Farrell. Oh, true. Nevermind. No. In Tomo. That's right. Sorry. Just switch back on. Right. That's what I'm thinking about. See Hutchinson. I'm not sure Hutchinson will do that.
01:15:11
Speaker
Yeah. I don't know if he's a 12. I don't know that he's got, he's that type. I don't know. I think he's more of the, to try to skip it outside and yeah, we'll see. Yeah. That's going to be a very interesting position to pick. Yeah. Now I'm kind of shaky on Esther. He's another, I'm like, I stepped out of that little haze where I was like, Oh yeah. Oh, wait a minute. Let me look at his profile. Hold on. Cause I'll, I'll tell me the,
01:15:40
Speaker
What are the scores against? Because he played in both series matches, I'm 99% sure of. So I want to see. I thought he played well once and didn't the other, but I... Let's see. Series 17. That's one. That's not good. That's at the Sonax. And then, oh, nope. Neither one of them. He played awesome. So... Okay. And one of those was with and one of those was without the full noise team. So that's not awesome.
01:16:06
Speaker
No, 13. Oh, yeah. So he's averaging about 15 against Saris. Not good. That's not, no, not good. So something to consider there too. That's why, that's kind of why I'm thinking FAS at 12.
Fullback Performance Expectations
01:16:21
Speaker
Yeah. And then looking at one of the, like wings, because I don't think the center, I don't think it's a good week for peer centers.
01:16:29
Speaker
Yeah, it might not be. It might not be. It might be a week to find other options that are sort of old. Marchant, I think, still has like, you know, yeah, he's up on my list, I think, because I really he's come on in the sea as the season's gone on and he's definitely hit an uptick. So I think he's definitely still on our radar. The other some lukewarm I'm at best. He's he's one of the few
01:16:52
Speaker
where this Quinn's and sari's line match up where you're like, no, he's clearly better than the guy he's lining up across from. And it says, it says a lot because laws is not half bad. It's just that he's, he's that much better. There's a mismatch there, unfortunately. Yeah, I agree. Um, wings. We already talked about guys that we could be sliding into went into the middle that are, that are wings. Um, Marley, mail-ins liner Freeman and,
01:17:22
Speaker
believe it or not, Potter is still highly owned, although I don't think I'm playing him. But of the other four, really, those are the names that I think need to be highly considered. And all three of them, or all four of them, excuse me, could find their way into your lineup, honestly. I love Freeman. I love Maylands. I'm not getting rid
Back Three Strategies
01:17:40
Speaker
of them. I love Murley. I'm probably playing him too, so it's a matter of where and if I can slide another one in there, really, phrasing.
01:17:51
Speaker
Yeah, and what do you do with Freddie Stewart and Tyron Green? I think Tyron Green, to me, has the best matchup of any of the back three players because
01:18:04
Speaker
Sarri's will kick just to try to fuck with the other team. And Tyrone Green is actually intelligent with what he does. He just returns. He's like, okay, I'll run. And that's meters. That's defender's beaten, because there's people who are like half-assing it, and then, you know, that's a broken defender beaten right there. That's just points on points on points that he'll do that. So Sarri's like, it's not that he'll,
01:18:34
Speaker
The points he make won't make a huge impact on the game, but they're points. They're like ridiculously, he'll give you like 10 to 20 just cheap points like that. Of course, he'll give you 10 to 20 others that are fucking daggers.
01:18:50
Speaker
Um, but it's like you can be, you can get like a lot of kind of garbage time points with him. Right. So at the stoop performed very well, 34, um, at the stone X less than IDL 13.
Fullback Past Performance
01:19:05
Speaker
So yeah, but didn't he come out early? I thought he was injured. No, he played the whole thing. Ew. 80 minutes.
01:19:14
Speaker
So, let's see what killed him. Turnovers. Okay. Two turnovers. Only had to make one tackle. Yeah, that'll do, yeah. And 58 meters, which wasn't great. So, they had some sort of strategy going into that game clearly about, you know, one, keeping the ball away from him and two, making sure when he got it, he didn't get too cute with it. Right. So...
01:19:41
Speaker
There's that. Yeah, so fullback, steward, Tyrone Green, fur bank, and good. And unfortunately, of all those, as much as I love old goodie, not in the conversation for me. No.
01:19:56
Speaker
but not out of the conversation. Put it this way, if somebody, if you wanted to, if you're shooting the fucking moon, Goody could put up 50 this match. He might, which is- We haven't seen it this year, but that doesn't mean it's not there. We also haven't really, how many times have we seen a full noise Saracens team? Very few. Like really, where you have Farrell, Tomo,
01:20:24
Speaker
um, laws, daily mail-ins and, and good who that, that would be my top. Backline. I don't think we've seen that yet. And now that like, that's the, you know, because of those, the, the rock guys like that your, your center's right there, though that back three is just going to fucking run and good. He will run it back to, he will pull that, that, that green stuff. If he, you know, if he feels like it, it's the other backs that love to kick it all the time.
01:20:52
Speaker
Yeah. And maybe we don't need to be doing that. He's the one who's like, no, let's fucking run. This is great. This is what I do. Let's see. Let's look at his points recently. He had 39 against the Saints. That was a good day for him. We got to try on that day. And he got pulled early.
01:21:08
Speaker
He played 15 against Quinn's in February at the Stonex and only had 18, so that's not awesome. And then, yep, 15 at the stoop, only had 19, so maybe not. But it's like, where is he playing? And, you know, if he's playing 10... He's playing 15 in both of those cases. Yeah, okay. I feel like he does better when he's at 15. And then if, you know, when Faz is playing and when, you know, when they're putting out a...
01:21:38
Speaker
a real lineup, which just we haven't seen enough this year. No, I'd say that's probably a truth. OK, so that makes that.
Fantasy League Captain Selections
01:21:50
Speaker
Who's high on your list for captain? Atoje. OK. Just because it's like me and Mauro. Turnovers.
01:22:05
Speaker
The media, you know, when he's playing at lock, which he will, um, the meters are, are just add up. Um, he wins lineups and winning the opposition line out is what she does a fucking ton of, um, even more points, like everything he does, like, yeah, everything he does really well on, on the pitch gets fantasy points. There are not many players that just fit that role perfectly. So.
01:22:33
Speaker
Um, does like care or Genge enter that conversation at all? Genge does care as much as I, I, again, yeah, Sarri's have that week, week spot. Um, it's still Sarri's defense. So what's, what's the ceiling really? They give up like a ceiling of points, but I don't, I don't know if he's going to get, you know, captain worthy. I don't know that he's going to break 40.
01:23:01
Speaker
That's a, that's a risk. I feel like a TOJ is like almost a lock. If he doesn't, it'll be shocking. If care doesn't, it'll be like, yeah, yeah. Yeah, maybe, maybe. Right. Cool. So yeah, we'll, we'll put that out on Friday. We'll put up rankings of prop hooker back five forwards, uh, Scrum half fly half back, back five. Um,
01:23:25
Speaker
Back by backs. And if Ben wants to throw a curveball on there, he can't do. All right. We got picked. We got pick of them. Picking of them. Yeah. Sorry to say that you are not catching me this year. So there's always a chance. There's not enough games. That's the situation. There's not enough games. I don't think you understand the power of positive thinking, Jared.
01:23:57
Speaker
It is powerful, but data kind of tells you otherwise in this case. Oh, fuck. Sorry to get in the way of facts or facts get in the way of the truth, you know, whatever. Uh, sherry squids semi-final premiership. I'm taking the guys in the black.
01:24:20
Speaker
Yeah, me too. They are like so we we know this this match is is dependent upon which Saris team shows up because we've seen they're too bad ones to hide. Yeah. Or a couple of bad ones, whatever. Right.
Upcoming Match Day Excitement
01:24:36
Speaker
They're this is a. It's a slight motivation here, and I think they're ready to be disciplined, they're ready to go get it.
01:24:48
Speaker
You know, I think they rested for a reason last week and I think they're just, they're fine tuning things and they're going to bring it.
01:24:57
Speaker
If that happens, I don't, you know, Quinn's are good, but I don't, it can happen. They can, but I just don't see it happening. Yeah. It'd be tough. It'll be a tough ask either way. Right. So I'm going to, that's, that's, you know, it should be a fun match. That's the best part. That's the best part. Cause you know, if I want to see that these, these two teams just throw their best at it. And so if that happens, it's going to be a hell of a match and it could go either way. I just, because saris are home and yep.
01:25:26
Speaker
Yeah. Yep. Yep. And they have, they have a point to prove. If there's any team that has the horses to keep up with, with Quinn's it's, it's Saris. Yeah. So they have a point to prove. No doubt. All right. Um, and later on that day, Lester and no Tempton, Derby day, number two.
Lester vs. Northampton Match Analysis
01:25:45
Speaker
Lesser were 2-0 against these guys in the season. And really, I don't have a reason to say otherwise, unfortunately, as much as I love the way Northampton plays. Right. If I look at these two teams floor to ceiling, there is some overlap in the lesser Tigers floor and the Saints ceiling. Like, there's a little bit of like, yeah, if the Saints play their best and Leicester play their absolute worst,
01:26:14
Speaker
Saints can win this. Right. No question. Same first game, obviously. Right. Oh, no, that they're like, everything is pretty much an overall. Yeah. Yeah, if you don't play, it's you to every doesn't play their best and that game wins or loses. Sorry. So this this game, it's, you know, Lester, it's less just to lose. And since I
01:26:41
Speaker
I like them, but I don't like him in this matchup. It's not, it's too different. It's not even David and Goliath. It's one of these like, unless you know how to handle these guys too. That's the thing. Right. So that's, this is not a, this is so much talent on that Lester team. So I, you know, not there's not on, on the saints, but it's not all, there's a lot of, you know, happy return to your Ela where
01:27:11
Speaker
I don't feel the same thing on Lester. I feel like there's not a guy you're just like, why the fuck is even out there? Right now, like, like the locks will probably be like Cowan Green and Harry Wells, both of which are rock solid dudes that you're just like, yeah, I lean on them all day. Although if, you know, if the Saints are smart and go ribbon and ribbons and laws as their locks. That made that could change things. Yeah, I could change things. You're not wrong. Augustus and
01:27:41
Speaker
and Ludlum and then basically any other fucking back row that they have. It could be the Hinckley guy that right. There's been playing. Well, if you put those guys out there, those are runners. The question is, is he eligible for this game? I don't know because of his status. I don't know. But either way. But yeah, but even so, you've got flankers. You have you have flankers at the Wazdu that can run. And so that's an option if you if you don't want to, you know, if you don't want to go heavy and if you really want to run. And that's what that's what Saints have to do.
01:28:08
Speaker
Like that's, that's the only option I see if they've come out with any other lineup. So I don't have Lester. I'm going to go with Lester and then crusaders and chiefs super rugby semi-final.
Super Rugby Semi-Final Predictions
01:28:26
Speaker
I'd love to pick your guys, but they're in Christchurch, which is a problem. Didn't they beat the crusaders in Christchurch earlier? No, they beat them in Hamilton. Uh, I,
01:28:37
Speaker
Well, I disagree. 99% sure they beat him in Hamilton. You're probably right. I'm just trying to disagree so that I can give the Chiefs a chance. Listen, I will jump up and down if the Chiefs win. Yeah, I'm gonna go with the Chiefs because I think that it's not it's not that's again not outside the
01:28:58
Speaker
whatever and apparently they've shown they can run with these guys no doubt. I'm not far enough away from you so. Blues Brumbies. I don't know how the Brumbies are here but blues.
01:29:14
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Prombeys need to count their chickens and just be like, thank God. You snuck through. Somehow you like that. You walked past the sleeping. Yeah, we were there. Century and made it here. No shit. How do I get here? Right. Shit. Yep, exactly. Exactly. Dicks. All
Upcoming Content Plans
01:29:40
Speaker
right. Cool. So that's that.
01:29:45
Speaker
Yeah, we got, we got, it's getting into, you know, like just weird boring time for us now. So now we're going to start coming up with funny shit to do. Cause there's not enough to talk about otherwise. So yeah, hopefully everybody enjoyed all that with the 15s and stuff. Um, and then, uh, yeah.
01:30:02
Speaker
Hopefully we find somebody to help out there in the world that needs a little bit more help on the TRM to make sure that they don't have to have some sort of forfeit or something like that. If we can avoid that, then we have done our job. Speaking of fun things, we didn't talk about the bomb. We missed the bomb. There's a lot of bomb. But it was in the Brumby's hurricane, so it was kind of like...
01:30:25
Speaker
I was like, that's dumb. But yeah, thanks. It's all Andrew, you moon us. Yeah, dick. But yeah, so we will be back next week. Obviously, we'll be talking about finals and all that good stuff.
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We'll obviously also probably start having to look forward towards what's going on this summer and then into next fall of which the UK hang onto your pants because we're
Podcast Conclusion and Listener Appreciation
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gonna be over there. But until then, we'll catch you guys next week. We appreciate everybody for listening to us and dealing with our babble. Everybody have a good weekend. Later.
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