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Entity Contact and the True Nature of Our Reality w/ Chris Mathieu of Forbidden Knowledge News
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We are joined by Chris Mathieu of Forbidden Knowledge News to talk about his contact experiences, what this weird and wonderful reality of ours actually is, and more!
Forbidden Knowledge News is one of my favourite podcasts. It features extraordinary interviews with some of the most brilliant and extraordinary researchers, authors, doctors, scientists, whistleblowers, contactees, and experiencers on the planet. Their purpose is to bring knowledge, truth, and a greater understanding of the hidden nature of reality.
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Transcript
Introduction to Chris Matthew and Forbidden Knowledge News
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Welcome back to the Connecting Minds podcast. Today, I'm super stoked that we have Chris Matthew on. Chris is the mastermind behind Forbidden Knowledge News, which is a place
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full of extraordinary interviews with some of the most brilliant and extraordinary researchers, authors, doctors, scientists, whistleblowers, contactees and experiencers on the planet.
Purpose of the Podcast: Unveiling Hidden Realities
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Their purpose is to bring knowledge, truth and a greater understanding of the hidden nature of reality
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And through the Forbidden Knowledge Network, I have discovered a ton of amazing podcasters and it's what a mind-blowing archive you have on there, Chris. Thank you so much for coming on the show, bro. Hey, thank you so much for having me, man. I really appreciate the kind words and looking forward to our conversation today. I love being on the other side of the microphone sometimes.
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Yeah, man, you know, like one thing I've noticed is you I love your interview style, you're extremely sort of respectful, because there's so much such a vast knowledge base people bring to the party. So you really like give the space.
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But I do like that you throw some tidbits of your own personal life. I like that you throw in your own insights. And actually today, this morning, I listened to you and Ryder on Wayne Steiger. Wayne Steiger, he's new to me. And it was really nice listening to you guys kind of discuss stuff that I've been thinking about a lot. So maybe before we get into it, can you give the listeners a little bit about
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your background your you know your work your podcast and how you got into it as well.
From Facebook Blog to Podcast Journey
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Sure yeah once again thank you for having me on i started this oh man it's probably been almost seven years now but it really just started as a facebook blog i was.
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It was the beginning stages of my, what you would call, awakening. It was around 2013, 2014. I mean, it really started in 2012 when I became curious about everything and I started to realize some of the corruption that we were dealing with and just going down many different rabbit holes.
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the information that i started learning i wanted to share with others so i just i started with a facebook blog and. For some reason people enjoyed it they they came and they kept coming back and then reading my articles and eventually i might man i need to talk with the professionals and.
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people who do more research than me into these topics that I'm talking about. So I started reaching out to some of my favorite authors, researchers, people that I respected in their fields. And I decided to start a YouTube channel where I did interviews. There was a few shows that I was watching that I really loved at the time.
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League Project with Rex Baer, Higher Side Chats, Project Veritas. There's a few others that had these interview style shows that I was like, man, I'd love to do something like this just so I can ask my own questions because I was curious about everything at that point. And that's what I did. I started the YouTube channel and people really enjoyed the guests that I was bringing on. So the YouTube really started blowing up.
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until the censorship killed it in about 2018, and they just completely screwed on YouTube.
Challenges and Growth of Forbidden Knowledge News
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But it was about 2017 that Charlie Robinson, we were talking about him earlier, he actually suggested I start a podcast. And I'm glad I took his advice.
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I met my producer and friend Corey Hughes. We started the Forbidden Knowledge News podcast. And it's all pretty much history from there, man. I was able to make this my full-time career, which I'm extremely blessed to have been able to do that. And it's only after a series of
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extremely synchronistic and spiritual experiences that I had, even what you could consider contact experiences that I was able to to transmute what I was doing into something that I could actually make a living off of.
A Life-Changing Meditation Experience
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And it's amazing that I'm able to do this. All right. Hold on now. I'm sure a lot of people are tantalized. Can you elaborate a little bit about these contact experiences?
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Sure. Yeah, I'll try and make them as compact as possible because this is really the turning point for everything for me. Like I said, it was about 2013-14. I start the Facebook page and I turn that into a YouTube channel. This was about 2016-17. Podcast starts in 2017. And at this point, this is just a fun hobby for me. I am making like very minimal
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revenue from anything that I'm doing with the podcast. I have a full-time job at this time. I am doing corporate cellular sales and TV and internet service and things like that. And I was miserable doing that. I really hated doing that. It was kind of a deceptive job. You had to do things that
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pretty much went against my moral code to to advance at those jobs. And I really didn't like it. I was comfortable, though, I was making money and I had been doing it for a long time. So I was kind of just scared to leave at that point. But I also, like I said, I was not making zero dollars, maybe a couple of hundred a month, if you know, if anything from this podcast. And then it was around 2000. Let's see.
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Man, it was about 2019 or early 2020. We start to make a little bit more off the podcast, but it's still not, you know, just a few hundred a month, nothing to, you know, just maybe buy me a few lunches, pay some bills here and there.
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And I'm still doing this full time job. This was around 2020. And it was like this is this was only a couple of years ago that this happened. I was going through a pretty rough period of my life. I was going through a bad breakup with an ex.
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and i ended up having to get a restraining order on this particular person but that's a whole different story i was just not in a good state of mind and during this time period i was kind of i was doing a lot of spiritual shows i was seeking spirituality but i didn't have my own i was kind of lost in with you know my
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my knowing of who I was and where I was going and where I came from and everything. And on top of that, going through a bad relationship, not being able to do this, like as a talk show full time, being frustrated with having to be at that job, I decided to start meditation.
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It's the only thing that I figure that'll, you know, kind of maybe help me figure out some routes I need to take here. So I start meditating unsuccessfully for a long time. My mind is just a rapid fire. I was never able to just slow it down and do it properly. But one night I did. This was one night I remember it was after
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After I had gotten the restraining order against this individual, it was a really rough day talking to my neighbor outside. And I remember looking up at the sky and I saw these three orange flames in a triangular formation, kind of just slowly moving up in the sky. My neighbor's oblivious. He's just talking, talking, doesn't even see it. And I'm trying to get his attention to look at it. He doesn't want to look at it.
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All of a sudden, it just blips out of existence. It looked like it was starting to shoot up to go somewhere and then it's gone. It's like, oh, that's pretty interesting. Maybe that's something we could mark off as a UFO. I don't know for sure, but I kind of just wrote it off. I forgot about it later that night and I went to try and meditate.
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And this time I was suggested by a few friends, put on some 432 Hertz tones, a couple of other breathing suggestions to actually have a successful meditation, which I did. I was able to go very deep into this meditative state. I was in the most relaxed state I've ever been. I was in a state of like perpetual darkness and peace.
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And all of a sudden, I have this kind of jolt in my subconscious that it feels like my subconscious just like jets down this some kind of wormhole where it's absorbing all kinds of information and my consciousness is traveling through this kind of wormhole tube or something. That's the only way I can describe it. And at the same time, I'm getting all these amazing downloads of
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really everything that I can imagine, science, mathematics, history, our future, myself, like all this profound knowledge was coming into my brain and I was not able to decipher any of it. I'm pretty sure that some of it hasn't unfolded actually over the years, but at that time it was just like a bunch of stuff that I was like, what is going on here? And then what happened next is after I was kind of done being thrust through this wormhole thing, I was in a state of
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darkness again, peacefulness, extremely relaxed and feeling peaceful. But then all of a sudden, I have this feeling of just like immense love. And at the same time, this feeling is coming on this blue, bright, beautiful blue light is in my subconscious vision coming to the right side.
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And it's like enveloping me coming towards me. And the closer it gets, the more I can feel this amazing feeling of love. And people who have felt this before, people who have had contact experiences can explain this. It's a feeling that unlike any other earthly love you felt, you know, I thought I loved my mom and dad.
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I thought, this is something so far beyond and it is a feeling that is unmistakably what you could call love and something that I've really never felt before to that extent. It was like a drug or something, but I knew this was pure love and this being was showing me this or projecting this to me.
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And then I start to hear a voice or a communication. It was an instantaneous psychic communication. It said, hello, how are you? Something along those lines. I kind of get really nervous and I got downright scared and I was like reverting to some childhood dogmen. I asked it, in the name of Christ, are you good?
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And before I could even finish this thought, I asked it psychically, I asked it through our communication. Before I could even finish it, it was just giving me these reassuring, it was almost laughing. I could feel it like you thought it was humorous that I would ask that. And it was shooting these beautiful feelings of love saying, yes, I'm good. You don't have
Meditation and Spiritual Healing
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to worry about any of that. I'm here because you're ready for us to have a conversation.
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I don't remember exactly the conversation that we had but it was a couple of hours and it was it was very intense and i was even able to get up out of my meditative state and walk around my house and still have this voice communicating with me.
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So I did. I was walking around my house communicating with this entity. I asked its name. He said you would never be able to pronounce it. Just call me something you can remember. So I called it Laird. One of my cousins when I grew up was named Laird and that name popped in my head. I liked his name. So that's what I called it.
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And me and Laird continue to have these conversations. And at the time, I thought I was talking to an alien or extraterrestrial or something. I mean, I have a different understanding now. But it was, like I said, it was a long, very long conversation. But the gist of it was, it was repetitive that I need to quit my job, heal childhood traumas,
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find out about certain childhood events, like therapeutic type of options that it was giving me to move forward and better my life and do things that I really wanted to do.
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And one of those things was it suggested psychedelics is a good way to, to type of to heal a lot of childhood trauma. And it's a very therapeutic way to not only develop your own consciousness and heal childhood trauma, but you know, become closer with
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your, your own spiritual understanding and have a better spiritual understanding and all this. So it was an amazing conversation and I you know I had done psychedelics as a teenager in my early 20s I've done acid a few times and maybe mushrooms and I'm, it was something that I
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Didn't consider a spiritual tool. It was like a party drug for me back then and I hadn't thought about it for years. So it was very odd that this this entity that I spoke with was suggesting that and it also said that we can have a lot easier communication more frequent.
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with the use of those substances. They said I would be very, I would, I guess you could say, react very, it would react very strongly in a way that it was able to make those connections for me. So I, you know, it was very interesting. I had kept all that in the back of my mind during this, the next few days. And actually I was able to meditate, I think it was the
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third day and have this experience again, it was slightly different. This time I recall the childhood trauma during the meditation and it was a very traumatic event. After the regulation of that event, this being layered presented itself again, we started talking again.
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And during this time, I was able to perceive different images than the first time. The first time was just a blue light. I didn't know what I was speaking with. This time, and I was also told or suggested or had the intuitive feeling to get in the water to do this meditation. So I did. I was in my bathtub during this time.
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And I was able to actually open my eyes during this meditative state and look at my bathroom, but at one point when I closed my eyes, I could see that I was somewhere else. I was in some kind of different atmosphere.
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Every time I'd open my eyes, I see the bathroom close my eyes. I was in this new atmosphere, and I was trying to understand what was going on. I close my eyes again, and I'm trying to make out this atmosphere. I'm like, all right, so apparently this is somewhere else when I'm closing my eyes. And I'm looking around, and all I see is just very sterile, clean-looking ground. It's like gunmetal gray. And then I look up, and there's layers. There's a balcony layer. There's like two balcony layers.
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And then they have windows, massive windows that are looking out into outer space. It looked like I was on some kind of craft or something. And then all of a sudden, these entities, these beings started slowly manifesting and appearing to me. They looked like animal-human hybrids. They were all wearing these little
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green robes. They were kind of etheric see-through. They weren't completely solid looking. They had like a bird man, a cat, a dog hybrid man. I actually communicated with a little frog hybrid. And these beings are like beaming these amazing feelings of love to me. They're welcoming me to this plane wherever I'm at.
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They asked me if i would accept some kind of duty while i'm incarnated here and i was it was such an emotional experience and i don't remember very clearly what i was being asked but i knew it was something that was for my own benefit to accept and you know i did i said i said yeah i'll accept that and um
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This experience lasted maybe about an hour or two and I was communicating with these etheric beings. And eventually, you know, I have the understanding now that what I was communicating with is my spirit guides, my higher self, my spirit guides.
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Whether you consider those extraterrestrials or not, I don't know. I don't consider them personally. I think they're more spiritual beings, possibly having a connection with my ancestors as well. It had so much information and the experience was more about my own development than anything else. It wasn't telling me about World War III or how the world was going to end or anything else.
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from my own personal development. And that's where I came to my understanding that I was probably speaking with my own spirit guides or higher self that was guiding me in a certain direction. And within two or three months after those experiences, I quit my job and I was still not making money. I was, you know, I was not happy in the place I was living. I was in South Louisiana and I just quit my job. I moved to Denver, Colorado.
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And it was just like taking a leap of faith, man. And I am so glad I did because the universe reacted. When I took those steps, I was, you know, at first it was hard. It was difficult for a long time. I was broke for a long time. But then I remember just one day looking at our revenue and I'm like,
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we're going to be able to pay rent this month. And, you know, a couple of months later, like we can pay rent and eat our food this month. This is amazing. So it just kept getting better and better. And I kept following my intuition. I did end up starting to grow my own magic mushrooms in Denver and having vision quests and psychedelic journeys that way and healing childhood traumas, having more contact experiences. And I had
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plenty of profound experiences during those vision quests as well that helped me advance and get to where I'm at now. And it's all pretty much history from there. Sometime during that time period, we started the Forbidden Knowledge Network and added all kinds of podcasts. So I owe it all to just following my intuition and
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following what I perceived as my spirit guides to advice, really. Wow. That's pretty, that's pretty incredible story. I think to a lot of people that have never experienced any such things or have, or have not taken psychedelics, I think it sounds very far fetched, but you know, also guys, a lot of guys that are very materialistically set, I tell them, dude, it's very easy to get yourself out of this materialistic mindset.
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Just take some mushrooms, man. A couple of times, you will immediately see there is more to the world than what the senses perceive, you know? I mean, I would never recommend psychedelics to anyone, really. I mean, they worked for me personally. It was something for my own development that was very good for me. But I don't think they're for everyone. I really don't. I really don't think that everyone could successfully
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have some of these experiences. Some of them, you know, they're not in the right mental state. But yeah, I do owe a lot to those experiences.
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Yeah, but sometimes all you need is like a micro dose to just that like that is enough sometimes to look at a sunset or to like hear the rustling of some leaves and it will like, you know, oh my God, this like it's divinely created. Listen, bro. All right.
Is Reality a Holographic Simulation?
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Listen, I'm going straight for the jugular here. No foreplay.
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I know you've been talking about this issue quite a lot and a lot of guys have been tackling this issue lately and it's something I've been fascinated with and thinking in my kind of downtime like I look over somewhere and I just start thinking about what is the nature of a reality bro like
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Tell me what is your latest kind of most up-to-date personal perception of what the fuck is this world that we're in? That's a good one, man. And it's...
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It's really oscillating and shifting all the time, my perception and theories about what we're doing here. But one that I'm very intrigued by and have been leaning into just a little bit is, of course, that this is some sort of holographic simulated reality. But on top of that,
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They have really two different routes that I could go here. One is that this is our spiritual training ground. We either built this for ourselves or this was built for our spiritual development. We have avatars here that our souls or our light bodies inhabit.
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And outside of this, there's a whole different reality that, you know, we're part of that you might want to call heaven or even the real reality. And this is just some sort of simulated temporary thing so we can get our shit together. That's one. And then another one is that this is a simulated reality, but it's been hijacked.
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by some sort of malevolent entities, some sort of spiritual beings that are now feeding off of humans. They're using us as energetic batteries and they keep us in a perpetual state of reincarnation to be able to keep harvesting our energy forever.
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And what's happening now with people kind of awakening to some of these things is they're snapping out of the realizations that are into new realizations that this reality isn't quite what they think. Whether it's, like I said, for our own development or it's been hijacked, I definitely don't think that there is
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a real physical physicality to what we're experiencing here and that just beyond the spectrum of our vision and everything, there's a completely different reality that we can't perceive. Right.
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So why do you think, I know there's a lot of, like, if you look at the Gnostic sort of viewpoint, the Demiurge, for example, or like, I really like Howdy Mikoska. I know I listened to him on your show. I've been following his work for a while. I really like him. I'm going to try and get him on the podcast. But he, the way he describes it is a suffering pit of hell. And, you know, like, why do you think
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we are reaching this conclusion is it because there is pain and suffering and the current society and the controllers of society are obvious psychopaths why why why why do we think well you know like i said is that if we look at those two ideas the pain and suffering could either be.
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Because we need duality to grow to have these experiences it's like in the movie the matrix we created you a perfect utopia but you hated it so you know we made you one where there's some some evil as well. Maybe that's it maybe we can't completely have a spiritual experience and grow without these negative aspects.
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Or the other idea is those aspects were introduced in order to energetically harvest from us so that we have all this negative energy to produce for them. So, you know, it could go either. It's very interesting though. It is interesting. The way I sometimes like to think about it is, and it's an evolving sort of thought, but if you're
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I'm not even sure that if you're a being of light, an eternal being of light, let's say your soul or your spirit is, then are you imperfect to begin with? Maybe we are not imperfect. Maybe we are just each one of us and everything is a thought in the creator's mind.
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And that creator is just experiencing its infiniteness through this. And what happens in this realm is neither good or bad, per se. It's just the easiness of the creator's experience, you know? And like the other way I kind of thought about it is, if you are like this perfect, you know, powerful or eternal
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being of light, maybe there is a way to evolve and learn. If you're perfect, if you confine yourself in some type of physical reality with limitations, from perfect now you went to imperfect or limited, and now you went from
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you don't know what it's like to be limited you know what it's like to you know be a nerd or like be born without limbs or a million others literally an infinite amount of other experiences and maybe
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Maybe it's it's neither good or bad. It's just that's what the creator is doing right now. That's the creator's buzz right now. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's an interesting idea. And I do I do love the idea that we are all fractals of the source fractals of the creator that at whatever, maybe one point in reality's existence and history that it decided to fractalize, to experience different experiences.
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And maybe one of those offshoots was maybe it started out as an evil experience. And then that evil wanted to experience more evil. And this is how this whole reality, this whole duality was formed. You know, it was all one at one point. And then through one negative experience becomes a thousand negatives, experiences becomes a million. And this is the nature of evil now, right? Yeah.
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Yeah, like when you look at nature as well, there's a lot of quote unquote bad things that animals do, even plants do, you know? And it's a whole cycle of life and they're so bacteria fungi, they have to break down dead tissue that gets sucked into the ground and sucked up by the tree's roots.
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And then those animals, you know, the giraffes and the zebras, they're kind of nasty because they're killing the plants and the plants are releasing these toxins in their leaves and flowers to thwart those attacks. And then you have the tiger or lion killing animals. So it's like a con, it's like a big dramatic sort of theater of like just
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destruction and like beautiful so it's it's like God's sort of theater or like this massive symphony of beauty and I guess good and bad you know I don't know
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Yeah, yeah, 100%. And when you know, like you were saying, they have this, this cycle of life. And there's always your your kind of top predator when it comes to those cycles. And right now, it would seem that humans are
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But if we consider that there could be intelligences, like we theorize, like I talk about this on the show quite often, that are so advanced that maybe they had a hand in either our creation or altering our DNA. And that no longer means that we are the top dog species. And this is something that we had never encountered before. So imagine if one day we find out as a species that we're not the top dog anymore,
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There are entities that see us as ants. Where does that put us, our consciousness development after that? Totally, man. The perfect slave is the one that doesn't realize that he's a slave, right?
The Concept of NPCs and Spiritual Awakening
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So maybe, you know, this is why like I like to play devil's advocate, but I'm absolutely open to because it's clear that as Mark Pacio likes to say, it's clear that the human condition right now is that of slavery, you know?
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So let me ask you about another thing that I've really, I'm struggling to reconcile. I've been thinking quite a lot about, and I've even discussing with my wife. What is your, I guess, most up-to-date take on the concept of NPCs? Do you think we're all equal, quote unquote? All alleged eight billion humans, I don't know how many of us there actually is, but do you think we're equal?
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Well, I've been talking to a lot of guests about this and I get where a lot of people are coming from.
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when they say that it's not really fair to call someone soulless or NPC just because they act a certain way or they seem to be a certain way. I mean environment, people are programmed. We are programmed from birth to be a certain way. But that being said,
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I think it may be possible, you know, I think that even myself, when I look at the way I was 10, 20 years ago, I was a piece of shit. I was not the same person that I am now. I didn't have the same values. I was in spiritual. I didn't treat people the same. I didn't care about the same things. And I look back and I'm like, man, maybe I was an NPC and
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a divine spark or I'll walk in, decided to come in and inhabit me. And that's where everything changes because I can see changes in people. People that you could look at that you once thought were soulless or just part of a program or didn't really give a shit about anything. I have seen people like that flip on and go the opposite direction. So it is very interesting. And I don't know if NPC would be the right word. Maybe a standby avatar might be a little better. I don't know.
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But that's an interesting concept for sure. Yeah man, I agree. I also for the longest time
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was basically a drone, like just working off of my programming. And it took me kind of moving away from my family when I was 18 to go to college in Ireland, that I had more space to think about my programming. That's when I realized how programmed I am.
00:31:38
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And a lot of this programming, it's taken me the best part of the last 20 years. And I believe I'm quite deprogrammed now, but we're constantly getting programmed and deprogrammed. It's like you're programming me every time. I'm listening to your podcast, fucking 100 hours of your podcast. You and all your guests are programming me or deprogramming me or both, which is whatever.
00:32:06
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depending on the content you expose yourself to, it can be good or bad. Obviously, in this case, it's good, I believe. But yeah, I don't know, bro. I kind of lost my train of thought there, but I think this NPC sort of
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thing it's isn't it couldn't it be just another divide and conquer tactic that we can that's being used against us to dehumanize our brothers and sisters and rather than trying to help do I relate to you I'm always like trying to figure out oh dude you're like totally not awake like your your pineal gland is so calcified and shit you know well this is a tough one man we are definitely being divided at
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all angles, I call it the conspiracy wars. There's something going on right now where individuals will come out and say things or put out theories that are so insane, but other individuals latch on to them and it becomes a phenomenon. It becomes a huge thing. You look at things like QAnon,
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There's a lot of kind of psyops that have been put out that were conspiracies in the past few years. A lot of them turned out to be true. I have to admit, but there has been some insane stuff that I think is intentionally thrown out to discredit people, to get people to look crazy. And not only that, to pinpoint who they can cancel and how fast they can do it.
00:33:39
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They go after the big fish first, Alex Jones, David Ike's band from out, you know, how many countries Alex Jones has to pay, put billions of dollars if something ridiculous like that. And then what happens is it's a trickle down effect. It goes to your, your larger like YouTube channels, independent media, they start to get canceled, canceled. And there's there, I think there's also phases of this. We saw the first phase in 2018, the first wave,
00:34:07
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of cancel culture and then it keeps getting worse. But then we have these times where it seems like everybody's going to be fine, gives you this false kind of lull that you don't have to worry about being canceled and then a new wave comes along and then people start to get canceled. I've noticed this pattern with YouTube and Facebook.
00:34:30
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They'll let you think that everything's okay for a little while and then you start to post something that goes against the narrative and boom, they'll hit you with something. It's pretty incredible what's happening across the board and it's definitely all this cancel culture has killed any type of decent entertainment that we used to have for sure.
00:34:52
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Yeah, man. I know a lot of people are saying their playbook is so thin, they're just using the same tactics, but today I saw an article on Zero Hedge that, listen to this now, they're blaming the unvaccinated for not
00:35:12
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telling the vaccinated about the potential dangers of the vaccine so they have a lot of blood on their hands. Dude, that's just next level fucking genius. Now the vaccinated are going to go up to the people
00:35:31
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Sorry, now the vaccinators are going to go up to the people that were like, you know, I'm not taking the jab. It's like, why didn't you tell me not to take the jab? You know what I mean? Like, how the fuck are they coming up with this shit, bro?
Impact of Conspiracy Theories and Cancel Culture
00:35:44
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Yeah, it's all about keeping us in a perpetual state of separation, darkness, not knowing what the right hand is, what the left hand is doing. It's pretty insane. And it's a psychological operation on many levels. Like I was saying, one, they insert either intelligence people or they're paying some
00:36:07
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basement troll in their mom's basement to go out and either put out crazy theories on forums. They actually have a lot of if you look at the say, alien UFO type phenomenon that they've been talking about more and more in our in our mainstream media in the news.
00:36:26
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They actually take individuals who are former intelligence and now they're doing conferences and they're on ancient aliens and they're explaining how, you know, all this once classified stuff is, yeah, that's true. There's aliens. I worked at Area 51 and all this crazy stuff. But still, there's no definite proof of everything.
00:36:46
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And I think that there's a large deception going on, especially with the alien stuff, but across the board. And if you say the wrong thing right now, there's a slippery slope with a lot of the conspiracies that are going on. Take a look at what Kanye West was doing. If you jump on that bandwagon because you agree with some of the things he's saying,
00:37:08
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That's going to put an immediate target on you, and it's just going to be easier for them those days to get rid of you immediately. Well, this is why I respect guys like yourself and Charlie and all this at this point, hundreds of guys that I follow regularly and intermittent. There's just so much so many guys, you know, and girls that are doing amazing work fearlessly. And I love that, bro, because like when you look at this, it's literally
00:37:37
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The easy way out is to just say nothing and shut the fuck up. Hold your opinions, talk to your friends about it, but don't put anything out there because sooner or later your goddamn social credit score is going to be affected. You know what I mean?
00:37:58
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That's how, and what you guys are doing is you're inspiring people and showing that someone like David Eichbrot, he doesn't give a fuck. He just keeps going on and on and on. He doesn't give a fuck. And it just, like their whole house of cards is really kept together by fear. And that's what they fear is fearless people, isn't it?
00:38:24
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It is they fear fearless people they fear open discussion and they fear people not participating in the agendas which is actually what is happening right now I'm very encouraged by the amount of people who aren't
00:38:40
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participating anymore, who aren't giving in to the fear factor anymore, although there's way too many who still are. But I think it's getting harder and harder for these globalists to put out these agendas and have any success whatsoever. I think the next thing that they were going to possibly try is climate change.
00:39:04
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which, you know, they're going to try pushing electric cars, smart cities, try and get everyone to smart cities. They're touting overpopulation when all you have to do is drive from like Colorado to California and you will see we are not overpopulated. I mean, yes, everybody's crammed into cities. There's a lot of people there, but there's plenty of room for the rest of the world.
00:39:25
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And it's just an illusionary thing. It's something that they can pump some more fear into people so that we just blindly follow. And the biggest problem we have is people blindly following authority right now. I even remember 10, 15 years ago, people would question authority more than they do now. Science has become just a new religion. Technology is the new God. You got to follow the science no matter what.
00:39:52
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And if you don't, you're a racist, you're a white supremacist, you're a conspiracy theorist. You're all these things that are going to scapegoat you and shun you from society. Totally, bro. Exactly like this urbanization movement for the last 70 years or so, they're cramming people into cities and they're taking a disproportionate amount of temperatures inside cities.
00:40:22
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And if you look at temperatures inside the city, they're, of course, going to be higher than temperatures in vast open spaces with more airflow. So everything is fudged. Everything is fucking lies, you know. And, yeah, people continue believing it, which this is like I know you just said you have hope. And this actually leads me to the next question I had for you. And what like what is your
00:40:49
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honest and realistic sort of opinion in terms of do we have hope or is this is the society on a path to slavery and if you do have hope what would it realistically take to change this paradigm that we live in do you reckon?
Overcoming Societal Challenges Through Individual Action
00:41:14
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Yes and yes. Yeah, I think that there is a possibility. There is the timeline out there that is possible for us to go to that we are going to be in a complete technocratic slave state complete with social credit system and all these transhuman things that we're seeing trying to be pushed on us right now.
00:41:33
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But I do believe that it's up to each individual, whether we participate or not. You know, since 2020, lots of people's lives have been destroyed. Lots of businesses have gone under. Lots of people have become depressed. And, you know, lots of horrible things have happened to people.
00:41:52
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But there's a lot of people who are thriving during these periods because they're not participating with the fear and they don't fall into that and They are finding ways to get around the mainstream narrative and the crutches that this is causing for them And you know people like myself. I actually started thriving after 2020 I had found ways to exit myself from the system and not participate and
00:42:21
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Be successful on my own which everybody has the potential to do this right now And I think that's the key of the only way we're gonna get out of any of this is each individually exiting this slave system that we're that we're a part of and it can be done little you know little bits at a time just first by eating different watch where you get your food from and
00:42:46
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Wait, wait, wait. Can I just stop you right there? You just segue into my next question. So I want to ask the question and please continue. So I have a new segment on the podcast that I have maybe 50 topics I want to talk
Practical Solutions for Self-Reliance
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about. It's called Solution Talk. So ever since I was on Charlie's podcast back in December,
00:43:14
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I've really been thinking more about solutions in my life, and the more I focus on solutions, the less I focus on research, the happier I've been the last few months, right? That's a couple of months. I'm sure anyone there will attest to that. So with that said,
00:43:34
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This is something I will ask all guests in the future and I will clip it out and post it separately from the podcast and many other topics I'll cover solo. But let's talk solutions bro for a few minutes. What are you doing that others can also do to increase their freedom, self-reliance, autonomy and or resilience to the challenges that we face this decade and beyond?
00:44:02
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Yeah, man, I mean, some of the things that I've been doing and people that I know and acquaintances is just starting off by being aware of what you're purchasing. Do you need to buy these things? Do you need to participate with some of the products that are being offered, some of the television shows, some of just anything that you do on a daily basis, be aware
00:44:29
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of what this links to and where it's coming from and the
00:44:37
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where they want you to go with either participation in watching a movie or eating a product. And for me, after I started eating better and watching my health, it was easier for me to find products that not necessarily are coming out of Walmart and mass produced. I mean, you can't avoid that sometimes, man. It's all they offer in certain.
00:45:05
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places. So, you know, there's no way to completely just, unless you have your own farm, unless you're growing your own food, which is, you know, that's the, that is would be the ideal option to completely check out, go off grid, have your own food.
00:45:20
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I do work with food forest abundance. They can actually help you grow your own food forest, and they're very reasonable. And you can just start small, man. That's what I did. I have a garden too. Start small with just having some seeds, starting to grow a couple of things here and there, and just add on when you can.
00:45:45
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And I know that it's impossible for everyone to just quit their job and start doing a podcast and make money like that. But there are ways to exit the system. There are ways to use your own creativity. There are ways to use your own talents and to make a living and make a profit from it.
00:46:08
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and actually be more self-sufficient, even if it's not all at once. I think people are afraid to take some of those risks. And they're not confident enough in some of their own abilities. And I think that once, like I said, whenever I took that first step towards my goals, the universe just kind of pushes you and gives you propulsion to do the next.
00:46:37
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It rewards you for actually being brave enough to take those steps. And I think that's across the board with everyone with anything that you're going to do that will benefit your life. Anything that is positive that you are going to try to do that, that energy will propel you in a certain direction and help you to achieve the next goal.
00:47:01
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Love it, bro. Love it, love it. So what's next for you and the Forbidden Knowledge Network?
00:47:08
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Oh man, busy, busy times.
Future Plans: Documentary Series on Paranormal Sites
00:47:11
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I was supposed to start production on our documentary this year, which I did. We have some footage and interviews going in, but I didn't get as much as I nearly could. The funding wasn't there, but we're going to start a new campaign to get some funding here soon for the documentary production.
00:47:32
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The documentary, I am hoping to be able to cross the whole country, to travel across the country and do interviews, visit paranormal hotspots, conspiratorial hotspots, places of interest, historical interest, and interview some of my favorite people that I've either interviewed before, some new folks, researchers, locals from those areas. I know that Skinwalker Ranch is on the list of places, Daily Plaza,
00:48:02
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There's Mount Shasta all across the United States, these wonderful places of interest that I'm hoping to hit. I'm going to be breaking it down into sections at a time. I'm not going to be crossing the whole country in one shot, but it will be a docu-series. I'm hoping to get production going after this coming year.
00:48:24
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And yeah, man, that's what we're working on right now. We're going to be adding some new shows to the network. I think John Barber is going to have a show on our network that's coming out soon. So very exciting stuff and always the podcast, man. That's a perpetual thing that I got going.
00:48:45
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Yes, send me the link for you have a donation page for the I do. Yeah, send me that link. I'll share it with if any of the listeners want to I'll definitely throw a few bucks in there as well, man. Yeah, it's just support fkn.com. If you just want to cool. I'll include that. Great. All right, bro. So tell the listeners where they can find you.
00:49:06
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Yeah, guys, you can find us on all podcast platforms. Our website is forbiddenknowledge.news. This is also where you find the Forbidden Knowledge Network where we feature some amazing podcasts. We are limited on YouTube. We just mainly put clips. The clips will lead you to the full episode on there. We do put new episodes on Odyssey and Rockfin is where you get our premium content.
00:49:35
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Rockfin is amazing. Go sign up there. You get all kind of stuff you can't find anywhere else and you get all the premium content from all the creators there. So that is where you find us.
00:49:46
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Awesome, Chris. Listen, I know you have to go and our time is limited today, but thank you so much for stopping by on the Connected Minds podcast. And we'll do it again some other time, bro, when we have a bit more time. And we'll get deeper into some of these topics because we didn't even scratch the surface today on the
00:50:06
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on the amazing stuff. I highly recommend listeners. If you're into any of the stuff, anything esoteric, aliens, the occult, oh my God, you will not get through the content Chris has. So Chris, once again, thanks a million, brother. Thank you so much, Christian.