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Kofi Is A Main Eventer BABBYYYYYYY!!
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A completely JAM PACKED show.
- Elimination Chamber recap
- Thoughts on the latest NXT callups
- Update on Pete Dunne and NXT elites
Plus newest about our latest giveaway, Wrestlemania plans, eBay tips, and much more!
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Transcript
Introduction & Hosts Setup
00:00:16
Speaker
Maybe the biggest episode we've ever had. This is the Chick Foley show live snowed in from my in-laws basement. Life is going great. I'm Phil Gentile, AKA the hot take kid. You're listening to the Chick Foley show. Thank you for joining us. We have my lovely co-host Sheena Phelps on the other side of the glass. What's going on?
00:00:36
Speaker
Not a whole lot, man. I'm definitely not snowed in. It is a nice breezy 72 degrees here on Oahu. So I hate you. I hate you. I know. I've seen a lot of my friends in their Instagram stories just posting like four and five inches of snow that are over in the Northeast. So I feel for you guys like, oh my gosh.
00:00:55
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would have been too shabby because I got a little day off work with the kid, kind of hang out. But then like, I'm a, I'm a liquor and wine distributor. So they basically moved all the deliveries back like an extra, you know, a day. So I have to like tomorrow's basically my Wednesday and then Friday's my, my Thursday. So I didn't really get any extra days off, but
00:01:12
Speaker
Ah, gotcha. It was nice to kind of hang out. But we have a jam
Show Highlights & Engagement
00:01:16
Speaker
-packed show. We've got elimination chamber results. We've got some new faces on Raw and SmackDown. We have the New York Toy Fair to talk about and a ton of other stuff. So let's jump right into it before we get into anything, though. We want to let you guys know that you can hit us up at askchickfoli at gmail.com or you can DM Sheena on Instagram at chickfoli. We want to hear your concerns, your questions, your comments on anything about the show.
00:01:41
Speaker
We just posted our first Patreon episode over the weekend. It's a 32-person bracket for the best gimmick in WWE history. If you're a Patreon, I'm sure you've listened. If you haven't, it'll be in the archives, as Conrad likes to say. So check it out there. It's patreon.com slash Chick Foley Show. You can sign up for basically a dollar a month.
00:02:01
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and get some extra content from us. We have our t-shirts on prowrestlingteas.com. Sheena, those are going to be on 20% off as of right now, going all the way till tomorrow, which is Thursday at noon. Yeah. So that's pretty cool. You can save some extra money and support the show there. And you have some unbox of mania episodes up there, opening up some cool stuff. So we have a bunch of cool content on the Patreon. It's been a good week.
00:02:30
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Yeah, for sure and I have oh my gosh, I have some serious we'll talk about it in our go figure segment But I have some amazing figures to unbox for you guys over on patreon this week So stay tuned for that and we'll be talking about what we purchased this week, too So I'll let you guys in and let you guys know and I'll be posting some pics up on the feed Explain to me this hater aid giveaway that we're giving away an elite Samoa Joe your favorite wrestler
00:02:52
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Yeah. So, um, he'll husband and I were just kind of like, you know, we got these, these extra figures and then we were going to give away to, you know, all of our, all of our fans of chick Foley. Uh, we like to do giveaways for you guys. You guys know that. Um, and we had this, you know, the Samoa Joe elite figure and we're like, what can we do? Like we like to have a theme, like, you know, I love a theme. And, um, I was like, we gotta have something good to give away this elite Samoa Joe. So we came up with the chick Foley hater aid classic. So.
00:03:19
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This is for everyone for your chance to win. Make sure you write in to either AskChickFully at gmail.com or you can send it to us in the DMs. Just make sure you use the hashtag AskChickFully so that we know it's for the giveaway. And everyone write in with who your most hated wrestler is and why.
00:03:37
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Um, and the funniest and most interesting story, like, you know, we like to be entertained. So if it's funny or interesting, um, you will have a good shot to win. So, um, you can win the elite 63 Samoa Joe. And just as a bonus for you guys next week, when we announced the winner, um, I am going to let you guys in on probably one of the biggest best kept secrets, uh, in
00:04:00
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Chick Foley history and that is, I know, prepare yourself. I'm finally gonna reveal why Samoa Joe is my most hated wrestler. It's a question that I get asked on the reg, I get ribbed for all the time on the account and I'm finally gonna let you guys in on a little more, let you guys in a little bit. Let you know on the softer side, yeah.
00:04:29
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Yeah. So I'm super excited. So make sure you get those in sometime this week. We'll be posting, um, you know, we'll be posting a graphic on the feed with all the instructions and everything in case, in case you forget. So be on the lookout for that and, uh, you know, have your chance to win, you know, my most hated action figure.
00:04:43
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Elimination Chamber Event Discussion
00:04:54
Speaker
Let's get into our Elimination Chamber review. And this was, for the first time in a long time, I would say one of the better paper views.
00:05:02
Speaker
over the last year or so. I don't know your overall thoughts. There was a nice shorter run time, which was nice. And the matches, matches were crisp and a lot of good feuds. What did you think of elimination chamber as a whole before we get into the individual matches?
00:05:16
Speaker
I thought it was good. Again, like you said, it was a shorter runtime, which was good, like versus like, you know, six hour Royal Rumble, which was just like, you know, Royal Rumble was awesome, but it was just like physically and mentally and emotionally draining. And I mean, let's be real, like sitting in front of your TV for six hours is not healthy for anyone. So I did appreciate the shorter runtime. I thought elimination, elimination chamber actually surprised me. I was a little more invested in it than I, than I thought I was going to be. And, uh,
00:05:43
Speaker
I dug it, man. There was some awesome things that happened at Elimination Chamber. We're going to get into that a little bit. What did you think? It was good. Let's start off with the kickoff show. Buddy Murphy defeated Akira Tozawa. This is the only match I didn't catch. I caught it right when the women were coming out for the tag team Elimination Chamber. This seemed to be pretty well received from people as most of these Cruiserweight matches were. What went down?
00:06:08
Speaker
Um, well, I was actually, um, it's funny that you miss this match. I didn't miss it. I was watching it from the kitchen. I was in the kitchen making our, um, elimination chamber feast. If you saw that posted on my Instagram stories, it was fricking delicious. We had a wings and cheese fries, super healthy. Yeah. So it was, we had to go all out. Um,
00:06:25
Speaker
for elimination chamber. But with any of these cruiserweight matches, I mean, you can imagine it was just super exciting. These guys put on a hell of a match. I didn't in any way think that Akira Tozawa was going to beat Buddy Murphy. I didn't think that at all. Because like I told you last week, Buddy Murphy is just kind of like a force. And it's going to take someone with a little bit more build to beat him. So I was happy that Buddy Murphy went over. I didn't get to watch the match as a whole. But I'm excited to see who is next.
00:06:53
Speaker
opponent is and to see if it's somebody that's a worthy opponent to maybe dethrone our friend Buddy Murphy. Yeah, they announced on 205 Live this week that they were gonna have a tournament, like an eight person tournament to crown who's gonna face him at WrestleMania. It's hard for me, I mean, I'm not a huge 205 watcher, but I don't really, I can't think of a name down there that would be someone that you could see taking the strap off of him right now. He's kind of head and shoulders above everybody down there.
00:07:20
Speaker
Yeah, but I could see it happening at Mania. We have what, seven weeks to Mania? Is that right? Yeah, that's enough time to really build someone up and get somebody in that place to kind of take him down at Mania.
00:07:35
Speaker
after that show kicked off which was surprising with that women's tag team elimination chamber match for the making history as Triple H would like to say crowning the first ever tag team champs and Boston hug connection won so you got this one right I was picking Nia Jackson Tamina
00:07:53
Speaker
It was a slow match to start. There were some bad spots when it was just a couple teams in there. It really started to pick up the pace halfway through and it turned out to be a pretty fun ending to it. There was a moment when they were just kind of, and they do this in a lot of these elimination chamber matches, where one person hits a move and that person gets a move hit on them. It was just kind of a domino effect and that was always fun. There were some pretty cool spots. What did you think of this match?
00:08:20
Speaker
I thought it was awesome. I was surprised to see it opening the show, but I guess after they saw all the hype behind Kofi, they made a last minute decision. This is a speculation that they made the last minute decision to go ahead and move it to the front because it was going to be a bigger... They knew Bryan and Kofi was going to be a bigger moment at the end, which I totally agree. I'm glad that they did it that way. I think it felt bigger and I don't think it took away from the boss and hug connection moment.
00:08:48
Speaker
There was, I saw there was speculation running around too that the decision for Glowmella or Fabulous Glow, whatever you want to call them, to be eliminated first was kind of like a last minute change too and it stemmed from all the weekend allegations that went down about Carmella and Corey Graves.
00:09:07
Speaker
And I thought that was interesting. I had a feeling they were gonna get in there and get kicked out. But I thought fire and desire looked really good. I thought Mandy Rose is a pretty damn good wrestler. Yeah, I was gonna say, she's coming around, man. And that match on SmackDown was good against Asuka. She seems to be somebody that they're pushing pretty strong and with reason for it. Yeah, can we just talk about something that bothers me?
00:09:31
Speaker
her, so her entrance is like that, like, you know, um, like very fuzzy, like, um, the gold does entrance almost where it's faded on the sides. Yeah.
00:09:39
Speaker
Yes. But here's the thing. She has a tag team partner. So it's like so weird because like, um, what's her name? Uh, Sonia Deville is always like blurred out, you know? So it's like, you know, you have Mandy who's this like, you know, glorious, like golden focus, you know, this goddess. And then you have her like, you know, like partner over there, like doing her little fight moves and she's like all blurred out and it's like so weird.
00:10:02
Speaker
It is weird, yeah. I love how Cory Graves, not to give him any praise, but I love how he just kind of fawns all over Mandy Rose. It's cool to have a heel announcer just kind of pick one person that he likes a lot and just kind of always cheer for them.
00:10:17
Speaker
Yeah, to his credit, man, after all that stuff that went down over the weekend, like he was just as like, to me, it just sounded like the same Corey Graves. Like he's a true professional because I mean, he like, you would have legitimately, if you didn't know what was going on, you would have never like, he just was the same. I was wondering cause I was like, is he going to really like go in on Mandy and like do his normal little shtick that he does with Mandy. And he did. And it just, you know, just kept on rolling. Apparently though they didn't give the announcers their entrances. Like they normally have entrances.
00:10:46
Speaker
Oh, yeah. But for Illumination Chamber, they just brought them out and they didn't have their own individual entrances. I guess they were just trying to fill out the crowd and avoid any sort of awkward situation. But what about Nia Jax just demolishing that pod? I wanted to bring that up. There was no one there for 10 steps. And she's like, oh, well, I'm just going to keep running. I don't know what's going to happen here and just pile it into it. Yeah.
00:11:12
Speaker
Oh my gosh. You know, and I knew, I mean, I think the front panel was supposed to pop out, but then she like went all the way through. I mean, I think she could have like, if she would have been, had a few more steps, she could have like busted through the other side of the pod. I mean, the plexiglass like was cracked on the other side and I was like, I don't
00:11:28
Speaker
I don't think that was supposed to happen, you know? Yeah, I don't think so. I do like how they kind of went along with the storyline and the Bailey and Sasha thing where at the end of the match Bailey was kind of the one that was hung out to dry and injured and banged up and Sasha picked up the pace for her. So it was pretty cool. I don't obviously didn't like how they were crying at the end, but this is, you know, first time tag team champs. I'll give it to you there.
00:11:51
Speaker
I'm not I'm not gonna defend them I am happy for them I'm happy and I think that they deserved it I wanted them to win and I loved I love the storytelling like you said where it was like you know Bailey's been carrying all the weight for the last several weeks and then all of a sudden she gets hurt so Sasha really had to pick up you know slack I loved the freaking bank statement locking it in with her leg like I love that that's cool yeah
00:12:14
Speaker
but like the crying and then not being able to speak when you're like having a moment after the match like get it together ladies it was so awkward and then at one point Bailey was like are you gonna say anything and I'm just like I mean I don't know what it's like to make wrestling history I don't know what it's like to make any sort of history until this podcast blows up and we make history with it but I
00:12:36
Speaker
Like she's already done so much like I just feel like yeah after they had like their first like women like iron woman match or whatever and like the women's evolution was just really like starting to kick off and they were making history like yeah I can understand like being a little emotional but Sasha does it every freaking time and I'm like get it together like you're a badass stop crying
00:12:58
Speaker
Yeah, and I don't know if you've ever heard on any kind of podcast. I think she's done Stone Cold's podcast and a couple others. She just is very like, oh, I'm so, this is awesome and I can't believe I'm here and I just worked so hard. It's probably all true, but it doesn't seem very real. I just want to have a real, I don't even know who Sasha Banks is. I don't know anything about her.
00:13:20
Speaker
She had some cool moments with the new day where she was shaking her thang a little bit and letting loose. But other than that, she just doesn't seem to have anything besides the television character. I don't know what's behind that. So we'll see. And then we'll see what to do with the tag team belts. It was confirmed that that's going to be a cross-brand thing, which seems to be happening more and more. So that would make sense of the lack of women for the tag team division. So overall, a pretty good match. I like where it was headed.
00:13:47
Speaker
So pretty cool. Heading after that was the McMizz losing the tag team titles to the Usos, six-time tag team champs now, the Usos, in a really good back and forth match. We've kind of seen the Usos do these matches all the time, and you take it for granted. But even after one of the, I forget which one, I apologize, which one of them was arrested with Naomi? I think it might be Jimmy. Jimmy. Yeah, okay. That's how I got that one right. I had 50-50 chance on that.
00:14:15
Speaker
So they give them the tag team bounce out or something like that, which isn't crazy. I mean, we've seen guys get in trouble with the law before, but a pretty good match and I'm interested to see where Shane and Miz go after this. Yeah, I'm excited to. I'm excited to see, you know, I mean, I don't know if they're headed for them to break up and then face at Mania. I mean, that's not something that I care to see. I don't, I don't mind seeing Miz and Shane McMahon on SmackDown, but
00:14:40
Speaker
I feel like for a stage like WrestleMania, like that's definitely not something like that's like for me, if I was at the event, like that's like my like, go get me another beer moment, you know? I'm like, oh, well, Miz and Shane are on, like, I'm gonna go grab a beer real quick, you know? I don't care. Do you think that they're going to go into Mania as a tag team or do you think that they're going to go in as opposition?
00:15:04
Speaker
I honestly thought they were going to split up on that walk up the ramp after the match. I'm surprised it didn't happen. And I'm surprised it didn't happen on SmackDown. You confirmed it on your Instagram. I didn't see it on the show. But they're going to get a rematch at Fastlane. And I'm sure that's where they'll probably break up. And then we'll see a Miz-Shane McMahon match. I'm just hoping Miz is the heel here. And it seems like they're going that way, with Miz kind of yelling at him and telling him to get up when he was icing his neck. Yeah.
00:15:32
Speaker
Like he just pushed him too far, you know? But yeah, congratulations to the Miz and Maryse. Did you see they're expecting another child? Yeah, very cool. Yeah. I always like to see that. So yeah, pretty good match and new tag team champions. We talked about it before. Hopefully we get a revival Usos unification type of match at WrestleMania, but I don't, we'll see. Then we go with the women's tag team titles. It makes sense.
00:15:59
Speaker
Yeah, and I think it would just make I think it would make both tag divisions better just having one set of cross-brand titles Yep, and eliminate sorry intercontinental championship match. We saw Finn Balor for the first time I'm surprised first time intercontinental champion defeating Bobby Lashley and Leo Rush and you know a two-on-one match with with Finn Balor and a couple guys that aren't really in his league Lashley and
00:16:23
Speaker
You know puts puts the effort on and you know 10 years ago 15 years ago He probably would have been the most fun guy to watch in wrestling, but it's just not that style anymore It's just kind of kind of plotting and boring and a little bit slower But they tease are splitting up Lashley and Leo rush and then they get back together on Raw So I'm not really too sure what's happening there, but none of that really matters. It's cool to see Finn Balor with the intercontinental title Hopefully they do something big with this. I love to see ya. I love to see like a
00:16:52
Speaker
Challenge what's a like a challenge open challenge? Yeah, that'd be cool I don't know who's who's gonna face him at WrestleMania. What's your early thoughts on that? Oh Who's gonna face Finn at WrestleMania? They'll probably throw him in with Braun Strowman That's that's the kind of you know the WWE that I know Yeah
00:17:15
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know man with all these NXT call-ups. I feel like it could it could really get interesting Who could face I mean it could definitely be someone like Aleister Black. I could totally see that happening, you know Yeah, what'd you think of the match overall with the fin match?
00:17:32
Speaker
I thought it was good. I mean, you know me. I don't care I don't I don't tune in too hard to lashley. I was super I was super excited to See Finn win the intercontinental title. I like you said, I hope he does something with it And yeah, I thought I thought that was gonna be the end for Bobby Lashley and Leo rush But I'm glad that they're not because honestly like Leo rush is the best thing that Bobby Lashley has going on for him so if he doesn't have Leo rush like I
00:17:56
Speaker
I mean, what's he going to do? You know, so I think they probably realize that they're probably like, oh, shit, like what are we like if they break up, you know, then what's Bobby Lashley going to do? Yeah, for both of them, for both of those guys, you know, it's just a fits better and it gets somebody a little extra time on the mic and Leo Rush can kind of learn.
00:18:14
Speaker
And he's not, you know, he's definitely a 205 type of guy for his whole career, but, you know, he's definitely, you know, people forget he just came, you know, he's, he is a local guy. So I'm pulling from him and, uh, Velveteen kind of came up through a Maryland championship wrestling here locally. So always like to see those guys do well.
00:18:29
Speaker
Leo is awesome. I mean you saw I mean he can he can go He's super agile. He's like I mean he is a little high flyer You know and I love what he does on the mic I think he I mean he's really the only reason that Bobby Lashley is even over it I mean I guess Bobby Lashley isn't over But you know I'm saying he's the only reason that Bobby Lashley has anything going on. Yeah period you know I
00:18:51
Speaker
So yeah, it'd be interesting to see, like you said, some of the NXT guys, maybe Elias can jump in there at WrestleMania, that'd be a cool opponent for him there. So that's- Yeah, I would like to see Elias get an actual moment or an actual feud that actually means something. I wouldn't mind seeing him and Finn Balor go head to head.
00:19:09
Speaker
Ronda Rousey wins in a squash match against Ruby Riot, which didn't do too much. We did see a better matchup in the main event on Raw. We'll get to that in just a second, but not much. Yeah, I was so disappointed. Honestly, I knew they hadn't built Ruby up to be an actual contender. All they've ever talked about is Ronda being in the main event. Even with all the Becky and Charlotte stuff, they're like,
00:19:35
Speaker
You know, oh, you're going to face Rhonda, who's going to face Rhonda, blah, blah, blah. Um, so I knew Ruby wasn't really in title contention, but I secretly thought like, well, dude, Ruby's going to come in and like show what she's made of. And like, she could be a dark horse. Like Ruby and Rhonda could be the dark horse to like steal this whole show, you know? And then Rhonda comes out and squashes her.
00:19:55
Speaker
And I was kind of just like, what happened? What just happened? Sorry to cut you off. No, never. You could have made Ruby a legitimate main event contender for this belt. And if you elevated her to kind of seem as an equal to Ronda here and push her to the limit, kind of like they did on Raw, they could have just had that match on Raw and just not had her.
00:20:15
Speaker
had that raw match on this elimination chamber not had the match again on on raw I don't know I just I don't know what that does except make Rhonda look good they did they really tried to pump I don't know how many times Renee Young said the words Sonya Blade over and over again like I'm supposed to know like I played Mortal Kombat like maybe 20 years ago I don't know what I guess they're maybe promoting that but they're probably being paid to promote that movie but
00:20:39
Speaker
Oh, they definitely are. She said it like 100 times on Raw, too. Like, oh, man, that's a Sonya Blade move. Like, who is that? I don't even know who that is. It's so funny you talk about Sonya Blade. I made a sarcastic remark on, or it wasn't even a sarcastic remark. It was just an observation on Instagram. And I said, you know, something about Rhonda's ring gear. And I said, you know, when did Rhonda join the shield? Oh, my God. That, like, set the freaking smarks off in full force.
00:21:07
Speaker
It's Sonya Blade, you dumbass. I was like, okay, first of all, if I didn't know who it was, which duh, I fucking know who it is, right? They, like you said, they said it over and over again. And I mean, why, why else would Rhonda be coming out and some other form of ring gear? And she even announced that she was going to be coming out in her Sonya Blade like costume, you know, before, before the match even happened. So yeah, I was just like, oh my God, Jesus Christ. Like.
00:21:34
Speaker
The internet social media tweeting from their parents basement. Yeah, I was just like oh my gosh You guys like calm down like people were like seriously offended that I was like that I made a joke about the shield They're like, it's not the shield you dumbass. Oh my god
00:21:51
Speaker
After the match, we saw Becky Lynch come out in her Kill Bill finest outfit and beat the living shit out of Ronda and Charlotte with crutches, which I was not a fan of. I think if they were going to do this, it should have done it on Raw because we didn't see, you know, Becky's the hottest thing going right now. We didn't see her on Raw or SmackDown. You could have easily saved this.
00:22:12
Speaker
For more eyeballs on Raw, which I guess it's I don't know which one's getting more views now. Paper views are Raw. It's true. I think I think they did it. Well, one, they actually which something that surprised me is they reference something that happened at a house show.
00:22:28
Speaker
Which I like you know like a live event and I was like oh wow like they're you know they talked about Becky getting her leg hurt at the at the live event and then obviously she comes in on the crutches and everything and I thought that was surprising like I think it was like WWE being like we actually do have events that aren't you know on TV so make sure you come buy tickets these live events wink wink
00:22:49
Speaker
Um, but yeah, I agree. I mean, I thought it was cool. I mean, I'm glad they're like beating the hell out of each other. Um, you know, in this like little sidebar crutch match, whatever you want to call it. But Rhonda got her head busted open. Yeah. Some of those hits were definitely did not look safe right around this head.
00:23:05
Speaker
That was probably the point, but it would be interesting to see what they do with this going forward. I'm sure Becky Lynch is going to come out and ruin that Ric Flair. Every time they throw the graphic up for that Ric Flair birthday party, I know she's going to pop out of the cake or something and stun everybody.
00:23:21
Speaker
Oh, it's, she's definitely doing something to Rick Flair on whenever they have the, um, when they're honoring him for his, what is it? Is his birthday, right? Yeah. It's the seven th birthday. Okay. Yeah. She's definitely going to get some sort of hijinks in for that. Like I have no doubt.
00:23:37
Speaker
Of course. So moving forward in the Who Gives a Shit match of the night, Baron Corbin actually defeated Braun Strowman with some help from his friends Drew McIntyre and Bobby Lashley.
00:23:52
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know what's going on here. And I had a feeling that it was going to be a Kurt Angle running to help him. Nobody comes out and helps him. And as much as I hate it, I feel like we're going to see Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn team up with him. We're going to get the storyline that Braun Strowman doesn't have any friends and nobody to help him beat up these guys. And then Kevin Owens comes back or something. I mean, this is setting up perfectly for a six man tag, right?
00:24:21
Speaker
I hope not. I mean I'm so excited to see Kevin Owens back. But if they bring him back like that I'm going to be very like upset because I mean not that not that I don't like Braun. I do like Braun. I don't have any issues with Braun but I'm just tired of.
00:24:38
Speaker
I mean he's lost all of his like star power to me you know what I'm saying like they need to take him off TV like I've said week after week after week take him off TV let him recharge let him like you know let us get excited to see Braun again can you imagine like if we went a few weeks like
00:24:54
Speaker
Several weeks without seeing brawn and then he just kind of came up and did a promo like will you be you'd be pumped for that right? But oh yeah, but they just keep on putting him with Baron Corbin and Bobby Lashley and Freakin Drew McIntyre and you know Drew McIntyre should feel bad about being lumped in with that trio, too You know
00:25:12
Speaker
Yeah, it's just completely treading water. They have no idea what to do with any of these guys. And I'm just afraid they're going to add more guys to the mix with some of the call-ups from NXT, because this part of the roster is super crowded right now. And I guess everyone can't face it off against Finn Balor for the Intercontinental titles. They're going to have to do something with some of these guys. But this was a dud. I should have known that Corbin was going to go over, though. They've done this match like 10 times.
00:25:40
Speaker
Dude, I don't know what kind of freakin' intel or like skeletons in people's closets that Baron Corbin knows about, but like there is something that's keeping him on TV and in pay-per-views. Like he knows something about the McMahons or something that is like, that they're like, okay, okay, we'll put you on TV, you know, because there is no other explanation. Like there is like public outcry to like take these guys off TV and yeah, they are not shy about
00:26:08
Speaker
cramming them down our throat. I mean, we saw that on Monday night. They literally opened Monday Night Raw with Braun and Corbin. They gave us this huge announcement that all this amazing talent's coming up and then they're like, and now Braun Strowman and Baron Corbin, we're all supposed to pop for that. And I'm like, what? Yeah, it doesn't help that he's dressed like a TGI Friday's manager. He totally is.
00:26:34
Speaker
He's totally like, oh my gosh, I'll take those appetizers off your bill. So anyway, let's move forward from that match. That was probably the worst match of the night pretty easily. I mean, after- Yeah, I mean, they did a cool spot and I didn't even care about it. Like they did a flipping awesome spot where they like, you know, stack two tables together, put a triple power bomb, you know, Braun Strowman through the tables. And like, I was just kind of like, meh.
00:27:01
Speaker
You know, like that should be a spot that like makes you like grab your head like, oh my God, you know? Yeah. Oh, for sure. Yeah. Lacey Evans coming out and then just immediately returning back to the locker room. I don't know. Why not have her say something like, you know, I'm, I don't want to talk to you people. You're disgusting. And then just leave like, don't just walk out and like walk, turn right back around and come back.
00:27:25
Speaker
Well that's the end that she's not playing it very well because apparently based on her Twitter I don't follow Lacey very closely on Twitter but from something I read the other day said that you know she's playing that angle like you know that you know she just oh she just too good like she walks out and sees the crowd and she's like oh no no no like I'm not I'm not gonna be a part of this you know but first of all like you're gonna do that at a pay-per-view like
00:27:46
Speaker
It doesn't everybody want to be on the pay-per-view and then you're going to come out and be like, oh, no, no, no, I don't want to be here. Like that's to me, that seems like a weird angle for you to have. And two, like not everybody follows her on Twitter or even knows who the hell she is because we've never been properly introduced to her. So that her just walking out and then walking back literally makes no sense. So if you weren't following her Twitter, you wouldn't know what the hell that was.
00:28:09
Speaker
Do you remember the angle or the gimmick they gave Eva Marie right before she left? It was fucking awesome. Where she would come down to the ring and be ready to wrestle and then like her shoelace was broken or her neck would be hurting. Do this same thing with Lacey Evans. Something like that. Like a fan spills a piece of popcorn on her and she's disgusted and has to turn back around or something. Do something like that.
00:28:40
Speaker
Exactly. Exactly. But put her like, like you said, like put her like she's going to be in a match or she's going to do something and something happens. I thought that was a great angle. Obviously it didn't pay off for Eva Marie, but maybe, I mean, they got to try something else with Lacey Evans. I mean, man, she's just going to fade into obscurity. I'm afraid.
00:28:56
Speaker
I think they're going to push, I think the opposite. I think they're going to ram her down our throats. I think she's going to be like one of the main folks on either Raw or SmackDown in the next year. And I don't know why. I don't remember her doing anything memorable in NXT.
00:29:11
Speaker
No, I was never, I was never a huge Lacey Evans, um, you know, Mark NXT. Like I just, to me, her character doesn't really resonate with me. So I'm kind of just like, whatever, you know, like, you know, she may be great wrestler or whatever, but I didn't, I didn't really like her and I definitely don't like what she's doing on the main roster.
00:29:27
Speaker
Daniel Bryan, AJ Styles, Randy Orton, Samoa Joe, Jeff Hardy, Kofi Kingston in the Elimination Chamber for the WWE Championship Belt. Okay, let's bring this podcast back up. We have back to back speakers we just talked about. I don't want everybody to think we're like negative Nancy's, like we love wrestling. Let's talk about some fun wrestling. Let's get into this Elimination Chamber match.
00:29:50
Speaker
This was a great match. I mean, this was awesome. They really played up the Kofi-Mania thing. They know that everyone wants Kofi to, you know, I don't know if it's just because he hasn't been in this position in a while and he's just something new. I don't know if the crowd would react the same if they did this with Mustafa Ali or not. That's probably what they were going to do. But either way, it's awesome to see Kofi in this position and, you know, seconds away from winning the title here. But overall, the match was great from top to bottom.
00:30:20
Speaker
Yeah, I don't think it would have been the same with Mustafa Ali. I definitely think that like, you know, they just initially when, you know, the all the gauntlet match was happening and all that stuff, they just slid Kofi into that spot. But Kofi, you know, resonated with the audience and got over more than anybody could have ever anticipated and really showed out. So then I think that's when they made the decision for Elimination Chamber to really like put him and Daniel Bryan at the end. I don't think it would have been Mustafa Ali and Daniel Bryan in the chamber.
00:30:50
Speaker
I feel like AJ Styles probably would have been there or possibly Randy Orton. I don't think it would have been Mustafa Ali.
00:31:01
Speaker
So it was good showing from everybody in the match. The most forgettable might be AJ Styles. With this match, I just forget that AJ Styles is even in it, because he's been such a primetime focal point for so long in these title matches. He was just one of the names in it. Yeah, which is saying something, right? Yeah, I mean, it's good. I mean, it was a great match. Top to bottom, I think Samoa Joe really- He eliminated Samoa Joe. Yeah.
00:31:28
Speaker
Samojo came out as a badass, you know in that first segment. I really liked him and Brian starting it off But it was weird that Brian was there a reason that Brian started the match. I know that Samojo lost that or No, it was either first eliminated that the gauntlet match is what that why he was the first in the men in the match No, Samojo Samojo was not the first eliminated in the gauntlet match dinner Brian was wasn't he? Oh
00:31:52
Speaker
Yes, it was Daniel Bryan, then Samoa Joe. Yes, it was Daniel Bryan, then Samoa Joe. Or no, Daniel Bryan, I think Jeff Hardy, and then Samoa Joe. I can't remember, but anyway. But yeah, I think, I mean, honestly, like the front end of the match when everybody was in there was awesome. I thought, you know, everybody really showed out. And it was, I mean, it looked really like choreographed as it normally does. But the end, the thing that I thought was super cool was like,
00:32:18
Speaker
When Kofi and Daniel Bryan were going head to head, it felt like a standalone match. Like it literally made you forget that, like just a few minutes earlier that there were four other guys in that chamber. You know, like it felt like this is like, this was like a main event match all on its own. And I mean, the everything they did was just wonderful. I mean, they were, they were working stiff, dude. Like, I mean, they were slamming each. Yeah. Slamming each other's heads off the plexiglass. I mean, I legit thought for a brief moment, I'm like,
00:32:47
Speaker
one of these guys is going to get superplexed off the pod. Like I didn't know who it was going to be, but I was like, Oh my gosh. And I mean, it ended up just being like, you know, a countered splash attempt by Kofi, but, um, it was so awesome. And I legit, like at the end of the match had no idea who was going to win, which is always what you want. Right. Because in going into it, you're like, Oh, of course Daniel Bryan's going to retain. But when this match started to develop, I was like, Holy crap. Like could Kofi win this thing?
00:33:11
Speaker
Yeah, it was pretty crazy and the crowd was pretty hot behind him for sure. One of my favorite moves of the night was AJ Styles going for the Phenomenal forearm and Orton Hinton with the RKO. That was a pretty cool moment. But yeah, this set up nicely. I love how they ended it with Kofi being led out by his boys.
00:33:29
Speaker
Oh, that was awesome. And you could have heard a pin drop after Daniel Bryan won, which I thought was really cool, because that just goes to show you how behind Kofi that the crowd was. I mean, because it was silent.
00:33:42
Speaker
And you know, it was funny because Daniel Bryan earlier in the night was like, you know, these people need me, they need me to be the champion. And then when he left the arena, like it was nobody, like nobody was cheering at all, which I thought was kind of cool. And then you had, you know, like, I love the new day right now, like them just building Kofi up and just like being his hype man and like, you know, all of those things in that moment at the end where they're sitting under the WrestleMania sign, which is awesome.
00:34:07
Speaker
I'm kind of bummed that we're gonna see Kofi get a shot at Fastlane because I wanted that to be, I think that could easily be a WrestleMania match now. You could build that up and just not have him defend the title or something or have Kofi have to be Rowan or something to get the shot because- Well, I can see shenanigans going down at Fastlane, like Rowan getting involved somehow and Daniel Bryan getting disqualified.
00:34:34
Speaker
And then Kofi getting a real shot at Mania. I mean, cuz I want Daniel Bryan to be champion forever. I love the new Daniel Bryan, you guys know this. But I mean, the WWE Universe is ready to see Kofi as champ. And I mean, I would definitely not be mad at it. And the fact that they teased it now and gave us two incredible versions of Kofi wrestling.
00:34:57
Speaker
I don't think I'd be content with anything other than Kofi and Daniel Bryan at Mania. I'd be pissed if they're like, oh, let me just slide this guy in here. Yeah, they planted the seeds for sure. So they need to deliver. I think that's what people want. I think it could be something different. Kofi is not just some guy that's come up out of nowhere. That's why people appreciate it. He's been there for a decade plus.
00:35:18
Speaker
Yeah, and he's never had a major title either. I mean, he's definitely been tag team champ as you know, but he's never held a major title in WWE. There were rumors, I saw some rumors somewhere saying that they were making plans for Kevin Owens to come back and debut and take on.
00:35:36
Speaker
Daniel Bryan at Mania, which I wouldn't be mad at that either, but I feel like they have such a good storyline and they could have such a powerful moment with Kofi getting his WrestleMania moment that why would you waste that when you could really start building something like After Mania with Kevin Owens?
00:35:53
Speaker
It'd be a quick turnaround time, too. So I don't know if it would be as good of a build as what they're doing now. So I mean, that's something they can shoot for later. So overall, a pretty good event. I think that the elimination chamber was probably the best match of the night, mainly because, like you said, I mean, you hit a run in the head. Just the one on one, the finale there was really kind of the icing on the cake. Yeah, it was awesome. I love the way they played it. So yeah, overall, elimination chamber gets two thumbs up
Reactions to Raw & NXT Debuts
00:36:21
Speaker
for me. I was excited.
00:36:22
Speaker
Let's go quickly into Raw and SmackDown, because we have a lot of figure stuff to get to, and we're already pushing 40 minutes here. It's been a big, big night for us so far. You didn't like Raw as much as I did, which has probably never happened before. Yeah, we're usually on the same page. Yeah, it didn't help that they gave the entire crowd in Lafayette, Louisiana an Ambien when they walked in, because- Dude.
00:36:47
Speaker
What the hell? I was so confused by that crowd. Like I don't think I've ever seen a crowd that did. No, they were announcing, I mean, obviously the four probably arguably four biggest names in NXT come up to the main roster. And I don't know if this is a permanent thing. We'll get to that in a second. But they're showing video packages of ricochet and all these guys and no one in the crowd gives a shit. No one knows who they are and no one cares.
00:37:13
Speaker
The Funko Pops in ICW Arena in my garage are more hype than this crowd.
00:37:22
Speaker
It was so weird. I'm like, did they know that they were coming to a wrestling event? Like how did they get these tickets out? Did they like call in and just like win a radio show promo? At one point there was someone, there was like hard camera side and the, um, I can't remember what match it was, but in the background was a lady like leaning on her fist, like had her arms crossed and like her elbow on her like waist and like leaning on her fist. Like she was just like bored out of her skull. And I was like,
00:37:46
Speaker
oh my gosh like what is happening here so yeah they definitely they're right up there with uh pittsburgh as worst audience well i don't i've never liked anything pittsburgh said i'm good to hear that so yeah ricochet gargano champa and alistair black come up and they're on raw and smackdown this week sheen i don't know what this means but
00:38:10
Speaker
I thought the announcement on NXT tonight was going to be that NXT was going to go to Fox along with SmackDown and be that third, I know it's been the third brand, but I feel like they are going to have everything go across all three platforms and it's not going to be a developmental system anymore because they have so much talent, they have nowhere to do with any of them, they have to do something.
00:38:36
Speaker
Yeah, you know, kind of like, I mean, I know we were talking earlier, um, and I was telling you, you know, I felt like, I feel like NXT has been more than developmental for a while. Like, I feel like it's been, you know, I mean, it's still a developmental, like, you know, territory, if you will. Um, but it's, it's for me, it's just more of a holding tank. Like when they bring new people in, like, and they need somewhere to put them in, there's no place for them to go on the main roster. I mean, cause Aleister Black, he's been ready for a long time. So, I mean, it's just like, that's just a holding tank.
00:39:03
Speaker
for for those guys and I could totally see them, you know, just Crossing brands and like basically like eliminating all barriers and like, you know, cuz they um, cuz Sasha even mentioned on raw You know that they were they were gonna take on anybody on raw and smackdown and NXT for the women's tag titles and I was like okay, so they're gonna incorporate the women in NXT into the women's tag titles and
00:39:26
Speaker
That's pretty cool. I don't know why they wouldn't save these as surprises and maybe get some sort of pop out of the crowd. Just announcing in the beginning and having Michael Cole read a canned script about how moody. He said something about Aleister Black being moody or something. Yeah, Aleister Black's been making memes of it. I guess he took offense to it too.
00:39:51
Speaker
I didn't like how there was like, okay, we've got like all of NXT's greatest talent. And I'm like, well, what about these other guys that you just called up? So now you're saying like, this is the best talent NXT has to offer. And you look basically just like crapping on all the people that you just brought up like a month ago, you know? So you give your stance on
00:40:11
Speaker
Raw and SmackDown, and I'll kind of tell you why I didn't enjoy it so much. Yeah, the more I talk about it, the more I didn't like it. But I just like seeing something. I like seeing these guys have a bigger stage and have just some fresh match-ups. And I would have liked to see him ricochet in a singles match like this, like we saw him on SmackDown. It wasn't the best way to showcase him, but I did like what they did with Aleister Black.
00:40:40
Speaker
I did like what they did with Champa and Gargano, even though they beat the tag team champions, which makes them look, you know, even weaker than they already have. So, I don't know. Yeah, I'm the complete opposite on both those. Yeah, you like them beating the revival?
00:40:55
Speaker
No, I didn't like them being there as a tag team at all. Oh yeah, I agree. If you're going to promote those guys, have them as bitter rivals. You don't have to mess with any of the other guys on the roster and have Elias or anybody job to these guys. You can just redo that whole feud over again.
00:41:16
Speaker
Dude, the only part in my, in my opinion, the only person that benefited from this or even like really like that I think is gonna, like I said, do good from this is Ricochet. Like I thought he looked good with Finn. I thought, you know, their match was fun. Um, he looked like, you know, he belonged there and everything, but like to bring DIY back together as if they're like friends.
00:41:37
Speaker
After you've spent the last two years with this masterful storytelling like down in NXT like 2018 was like the year of Champa and Gargano and then in one night you basically just like undermine everything that you've done over the past two years by like bringing these guys
00:41:57
Speaker
together and i mean i guess they kind of been like you know like hinting that they're like you know frenemies or whatever but like to just legitimately like put them together like hey this is and then and calling them diy you know um it it just it just rubbed me the wrong way and
00:42:14
Speaker
First of all, it pissed me off. The crowd pissed me off. And I know it's not their job, whatever. You pay your money, you can do whatever the hell you want. But it pissed me off when, like, here we are introducing, like, the NXT champion, Champa, who is just flipping phenomenal. And his music hits, which is, first of all, his music, if you don't even like Champa and you hear his music and you don't bob your head or do something, then you are, like, dead inside. But his music hits and, like, nobody made a peep, right?
00:42:40
Speaker
And obviously nobody knows who these guys are. I was excited to see the revival and quote unquote DIY together again, because I mean, those guys are both, they're all awesome. And it was reminiscent of their 2016 TakeOver match, which if you have never seen that, TakeOver Toronto, freaking amazing. Those guys are undeniably talented. That was when DIY won the NXT tag titles.
00:43:06
Speaker
I was not behind them as DIY. And then Alistair, like, oh wait, did you have anything to say about DIY before I move on to Alistair?
00:43:13
Speaker
The people that don't watch NXT are totally lost. They don't know who these guys are. And the people that do watch NXT are like, why the fuck are they a tag team? On both sides, you're not helping anything. You're not doing anything for the hardcore fans or the casual fans. And I agree that NXT has to become a full third show instead of a developmental and just have the performance center.
00:43:39
Speaker
and give those guys some local shows at full sale. But yeah, make NXT just another brand and I don't know. It's just- Well, did you notice that all of the NXT call-ups, they all still had NXT branded name, their little name plates that come up at the bottom whenever they're introduced, they were all still NXT branded. So to me, that signifies that these aren't official call-ups. You know what I'm saying? Because obviously we saw them on Raw and SmackDown. So we don't know if they're going to one brand or the other.
00:44:08
Speaker
what the purpose of this even was, you know, other than just to like shake things up, like, you know, Oh my God, like we got to do something, you know? And you bring up Aleister Black, who is like, you know, undeniably one of the top talents in NXT, in WWE, like period, like amazing. And you have him get in, let me preface this by saying no shade to Elias. I love Elias, but he has not had a meaningful feud
00:44:34
Speaker
probably ever, you know, and he, you let Alistair Black get worked over the entire match by this lower mid card guy who hasn't really done anything, um, and look bad, right? Like you never get a second chance to make a first impression. And to me, like, they're like, Oh, well, Elias can, I mean, Elias almost won, right? If he hadn't hit that black mask out of nowhere, like would, would he have won? You know, um, I mean, and he fought on draw day on smackdown, which was, which was a little better.
00:45:04
Speaker
But still, you know, like, I don't know. To me, like, it didn't benefit Aleister Black at all. Like, I don't know, you know what I'm saying? Like, bring Aleister Black up, like, when somebody's doing an open challenge and he's gonna have, like, a meaningful, like, you know, feud with somebody, you know, and get him over. And my question is, is like, well, are they, like, you know, with Andrada, you know how they just dropped his last name? I'm like, well, now that he's on the main roster, are they just gonna start calling him Aleister, you know?
00:45:33
Speaker
Yeah, it's it's super frustrating and I don't you know, it's not the best way to bring these guys up, but we'll see what happens here and You know, maybe this just split it up three ways and just look true But then they just ravaged NXT to you know, so not only did they like bring these guys if they're bringing them up officially Not only did they bring these guys up now They've basically like done a freaking clean sweep through NXT and it's like oh my god like who's down their dream, you know, but I mean I
00:46:02
Speaker
He can't carry the whole brand, and I know they have a lot of people lined up on deck ready to go, but you know, come on.
00:46:09
Speaker
EC3 better just call AEW. He's just done. And I like him. It's not anything he did. But he was buried before these guys got there. And now, what's he going to do now? It's a shame. Because why did I have these guys just beat the shit out of Curt Hawkins and Zack Ryder? Why put DIYA against the tag team champs? Put them against glorious Chad or whatever they're called? There's a lot of things they could have done differently.
00:46:39
Speaker
But I mean, I'm excited to see what they can do up at the main level. They're definitely already, and it's nothing against them. I just think the way it was presented was just not helpful to anybody. Yeah, I mean, and maybe it's just my expectation. I mean, I know nothing in WWE is like a surprise anymore. Like if John Cena is going to be on the show, we know the week before that John Cena is going to be on the show. He never just shows up out of anywhere. They had to announce everything. And to me, I'm the kind of person who like, I want that pop. You know what I'm saying?
00:47:09
Speaker
Oh my God, he's here, you know, moment. Um, and now it's like, WWE has to like promote it to sell tickets and to get, and to get viewers. Um, so it's like, there's no surprises anymore, you know, and all of these guys could have easily come up in, you know, the raw after mania or at a rumble or at summer slam, you know, or to build up the summer slam. Like all of these guys deserve that type of like,
00:47:32
Speaker
holy shit moment. And instead they were just like, okay, let's just find like, you know, these four guys and Triple H is going to announce them. And after we announce them, we're going to start the show with Baron Corbin and Braun Strowman. When they announced that match, the Braun Strowman match, that was the biggest pop.
00:47:48
Speaker
Nobody made a noise the entire one. But yeah, I'm really pissed if they don't use these four guys for WrestleMania and then you could have just done that and just debuted them the night after WrestleMania when the hardcore fans are in town and got a huge pop.
00:48:05
Speaker
do
00:48:21
Speaker
pieces are lined up already, right? They're not going to do a major shakeup right now, like seven weeks out from WrestleMania that I wouldn't imagine, you know, like inserting these guys into some sort of matches, right? We're going to get a tag defense. We're going to get a women's tag defense. We're going to get, you know, smackdown and, uh, raw women's champions. We're going to get smack or the universal title match and, um, the heavyweight title match. So like, what else is there? You know,
00:48:48
Speaker
Yeah, it's going to be tough for sure. We'll see. So yeah, overall mixed results on Raw and SmackDown. We got a couple matches announced for Fastlane. So we'll see what happens there. Fastlane is going to be interesting to see how they put these final matches together for WrestleMania.
00:49:08
Speaker
Yeah, we do have an awesome announcement that just took place tonight as we were recording this. As we're recording this, let's bring the energy back up. Velveteen Dream defeated Johnny Gargano for the NXT North American title. So I got to see, as I was setting up the podcast studio up here, I got to see the end of that match. And I cannot wait to get done with this and go down and watch the full thing, because it looks like a freaking banger. And I'm super, super, super excited for Velveteen Dream to see what he does with the North American title. And it is well deserved.
00:49:38
Speaker
That's awesome. I wonder if they pull the strap off of Gargano or let him hold on to that. So a lot of questions that fans just don't know what's going to happen here. I guess that's good and bad in both ways. So we'll see what happens.
'Go Figure' Segment & Toy Collecting
00:49:51
Speaker
Let's get into our weekly go figure segment.
00:50:06
Speaker
Alright ladies and gentlemen, this is our weekly go figure segment. This is where Sheena and I let you guys know what we purchased this week as far as wrestling figures. So if you don't have a sponsor for this segment, if you'd like to sponsor it, hit us up. Ask chickfoli at gmail.com. Sheena, I keep going first. I'll let you go first here and let us know what you got.
00:50:29
Speaker
Well, good cuz I'm excited. I have some fun stuff this week. I have some non WWE action figure pickups that I was super pumped about. I got the GameStop exclusive NECA Ninja Turtles. These figures are freaking, I mean, as with everything that NECA does, they are just amazing. They're actually a re-release of their San Diego Comic Con exclusive. So some people were pissed off they were actually re-releasing these figures.
00:50:54
Speaker
But they did it in a different way, it was, they changed the boxes, they're all in individual boxes now. And the San Diego Comic Con was all in a four pack and it had the movie poster on the front and everything. But I'm so excited to unbox these things for you guys. So if you're over on Patreon, expect an unboxing of The Turtles this week. And even more exciting, I think this is probably the scores of the week as we finally procured all of NXT Series 4 via various
00:51:24
Speaker
online avenues so we got nice yeah piece it together here and there via some like you know hookups and some you know ebay and you know we cool we had target notifications turned on but dude every time like it was within like seconds like when we would get the notification that it was back in stock he was out again the way target does their stocking is just like insanely stupid like I can't I don't even want to get into that but I
00:51:51
Speaker
I'm super excited about getting all those figures in hand and unboxing those because, I mean, it's definitely, in my opinion, the best NXT series that we've seen so far. And then I scored a figures on the pegs here on the island. Wow. Once last time that happened. It's been a while, dude. It has been a freaking while. I think I said it was Gargano. The last time was the last time I got that DIY Gargano, but I
00:52:17
Speaker
it was something before, it's been something since then that we got on the peg. Oh, we got, we got Badass Billy Gunn on, or no, no, was it Road Dog or Billy Gunn? I can't remember. We got one of those on the pegs here. And I was super excited, but we got, we grabbed a Walgreens exclusive Alexa. We found her on the peg. So yep, it was a good week here at the Foley fam.
00:52:39
Speaker
Very nice. I literally had a dream last night that I found Pete Dunne in the wild. That's how hardcore I've been about finding that figure that has been absolutely nowhere. So I have a tip for people at the end of this of how you can help these distribution problems because they've been pretty damn bad. I did win a Drew McIntyre NXT Elite from
00:53:05
Speaker
Instagram account that I follow that you should follow its WWE underscore now underscore then underscore forever underscore figures They are big-time wrestling figure collector I think I just I was already following them and I just had to tag someone and in their post in the comments and I did it in like two seconds totally forgot that I even Had done it and then they were you know, I was getting messages and notifications that I had won so that's I think it's arrived at my house and my neighbor put it somewhere safe because I'm not there and
00:53:33
Speaker
so that was cool. I found a CN Almas Basic at five below for the kiddo because I have been wanting a Andrade figure and that's the only one they really have out so far so pick that up and I made a little trade ski with our good brother Mike you can follow him on
00:53:51
Speaker
Twitter at MJGIV79. I picked up for my new generation collection, got a ringmaster and a mankind elite for a fan central Carmella mint on car that I've been holding on to that
00:54:07
Speaker
a listener or a follower on our Instagram picked up for me and I wanted it at the time, but don't really have a place for it in the collection. So we made a little trade ski, which I thought was a pretty fair. I think I messaged you just to say, hey, you're like my general manager, my football general manager. I had to make sure it was a good trade.
00:54:26
Speaker
Yeah, it's funny. I actually have an eBay tip. Once you're done with your weekly purchases, I have a tip because I get a very common question on Instagram, like people in my DMs all the time. So I was going to give you guys a little bit of an insider Chick-fil-E tip for you guys.
00:54:41
Speaker
An eBay tip, is that what you're saying? Yeah, yeah. Oh, good. I have an eBay tip too. Nice. Awesome. Do you, does that all you got this week for you with the purchase? No, I just don't. Keep going, man. The final is the Curt Hawkins Elite that I picked up. And this is the biggest tip I have. So shout out to a buddy, Brandon Bentley, who I've just randomly decided that we both live kind of in the same area. He's outside on the other side of Baltimore, basically here.
00:55:07
Speaker
We're local, we're in the same Facebook kind of figure groups and we decided we're local, we were talking and he added me to like a group chat on Facebook of about seven or eight of us. And these guys and me have basically come up with five or six of them I've found Pete Duns in the wild over the last week. And we all have like our assigned targets in Walmart that we go to every day. We report back in the group and say, hey, you know,
00:55:33
Speaker
This store might get them soon, they don't have them yet. And one of them is like on BrickSeek and the Pop Finder website and just kind of updating stock for us. And hey, has anybody hit up this target yet? I want to go there. So it's been great. And I don't know any of these guys. We're actually going to actually have a meetup on Sunday at a, there's kind of a flea market down in Baltimore that there's a bunch of wrestling booths set up.
00:55:59
Speaker
So we're going to meet up down there, I think. But shout out to those guys. I'll name them all on social media. But I don't know any of these guys. It's one of my favorite parts about figure collecting is now I'm in a group with these guys. We message all day about our favorite figures. And somebody made up an Excel spreadsheet of, OK, Phil's the next one on the list that needs to be done because we all have one. Blah, blah, blah. Let's find one for him.
00:56:22
Speaker
So, it's been pretty cool. So, if somebody found me the Curt Hawkins Elite, I PayPal'd him right away, and I'm going to meet up with him and pick that up. So, it's pretty good. You're just kind of dividing and conquering. Because of the distribution problems on these figures, people have been trouble finding the NXT Elite, finding Pete Dunn.
00:56:38
Speaker
It's been really helpful. So if you're in any of these Facebook groups, write a post and say, hey, is anybody near me in Wisconsin? Blah, blah, blah. If you find a couple people, it's going to definitely help you. There's too much ground to cover and there's too many people. I don't know if you're seeing it too, but posting these things on eBay for 10 times what they're worth and really screwing it up for the rest of us that actually want to collect stuff.
00:57:00
Speaker
Oh yeah, resellers have been screwing up the game for all collectors of all sorts for, I mean, for as long as I can freaking remember, but, um, it's, um,
00:57:10
Speaker
It's super cool. Like, you know, having those people, we have local people like that too, that will like hide stuff for us. Um, that's another tip I have too. Like if you, if you have a friend that's local to you, like legitimately, like we'll take figures, like, cause I have a target that's near me. Obviously this is if you live near a store that you can like just pop into and our friend will like take it and like hide the figure in an unsuspecting place, like behind some like cheapo, like little girl dolls or something. Um, and then he'll take a picture of it and send it to me and then I'll go pick up the figures, you know, so they're not like on the actual pegs.
00:57:37
Speaker
Um, which is, you know, another tip I have, but the most common question I get like in my DMS is, you know, people will like, they'll hit me up with like, you know, they're trying to buy figures and they want to make sure they're getting a good deal or they're asking how much it's worth or, you know, if, if this is a good price or whatever. And guys, like it's so easy. Like, you know, the market fluctuates depending on the figure and stuff, but the best way to find out, like if you're getting a good deal, like right in that moment is like,
00:58:00
Speaker
Go to eBay. All you have to do is hit filter, click on sold listings, and you're going to be able to see all the recent sold listings. So you can look and see what the market is for that particular item at the time. So whether you're looking for it loose or mint on card, like you can see what the going prices are and what people are paying for that figure. So it's super, super easy. So if you're ever looking at a figure or somebody trying to sell you a figure and you're like, Hey, like, is this a good deal? Is this guy ripping me off? Like go to eBay.
00:58:25
Speaker
Look at the sold listings and make sure not just completed listings. Go to sold so you know somebody actually paid that and bought it. And you can see what the market price is because it's super easy to look up that stuff, guys.
00:58:38
Speaker
Yeah, I just did that for the PDON. I just typed in PDON Elite. They're selling for $110, $109, $106. So a $17, $18 figure is going for pretty big bucks. Yeah, you have to be careful, too, though. Because right now, before it's been widely distributed, the prices are going to be jacked up. Versus if you wait a little while, sometimes that's not exactly the case. If it's a super rare item or something that's only a super limited release, you have to be on the lookout. And you're probably going to pay a premium.
00:59:07
Speaker
For a lot of this stuff, guys, people get it and they early release it and then they're going to mark it up. And if you just wait a month or two, like you'll be able to get it at retail or a little above retail on eBay.
00:59:17
Speaker
I found a good tip for people that if you're building up your Hasbro collection like I am, if you're an old school collector, I usually would type in Hasbro, Dusty Roads, or blah, blah, blah. But I've been typing in just wrestlers lately into eBay and seeing what comes up because it's mainly people that probably don't know what they have that are selling stuff.
00:59:42
Speaker
And if you put in Titan Sports, because that's the only thing, if your grandma grabbed a wrestling figure and looked it up and down, really, she's not going to be able to make out much as far as any kind of detailing or words or anything. But I know they all have Titan Sports written somewhere on the back or on the foot or something.
01:00:01
Speaker
That's been a good thing for me if you want some old figures and try to get them at a better deal price on eBay. Just try to find them from someone that doesn't know what they're doing, what they have. Also, an app that I've been using a lot is Mercury, Mercury, M-E-R-C-A-R-I. It's basically like a buying and selling app for different collectibles.
01:00:24
Speaker
I've seen some stuff on there for pretty good prices too. And I don't think you pay for stuff until you get it in the mail and you confirm that it's in good condition and you received it, then the payment goes through. So it's kind of really benefiting the buyer.
01:00:38
Speaker
Nice. Well, speaking of things that have been found out in the wild, if you were on the hunt for elite 65 sensational Sherry, um, you know, it's, it's turned up and I think it was in Illinois. I can't remember exactly where, but, um, it's showed up on Instagram and, uh, that it has been found on the peg. So if you're looking for sensational Sherry, like I am, um, you know, happy hunting guys. Cause she's, she's showing up out there.
01:00:59
Speaker
Yeah, I've seen some posts of her going up, and like I said, the NXT elites are showing up out there. Pete Dunne's showing up, so you gotta know where you're going. You gotta know where you're shopping and find things before some of these poachers get them. But the biggest news of the week is probably the New York Toy Fair was held over the weekend and a bunch of cool stuff. A lot of the stuff we already knew about, Sheena, but nevertheless, it was cool to see it displayed out. What are you most excited for from that Toy Fair reveal?
01:01:29
Speaker
I mean, that, that elite hardy boys two pack is pretty amazing. Um, with the classic tag titles, like they are just so awesome. Like they have like the tie dye shirts. Um, it's got Matt with like the hair over his face. Like I am, and it's a ringside exclusive. So I'm, I'm pumped about that, about that two pack.
01:01:47
Speaker
it's
01:02:02
Speaker
I think they're just made out of like foldable paper, like kind of a thicker, I don't want to say cardboard or anything, but they're going to be like 10 bucks. And I want to pick them up for sure, because since I've been collecting for me and my son, there's been nothing to add besides the ring and the wrestlers. Now, you know, we get the breakable car with Braun Strowman that I'm going to give him for his birthday. But this will be a cool kind of, I'm not creative enough or talented enough to make that stuff on my own. So it'll be cool addition to the collection.
01:02:32
Speaker
Yeah. Um, these, they're about wicked cool toys and they are really cool. And I, we're going to implement it into like, we buy all of our stuff from extreme sets. So if you go to add extreme sets, like they're, they're awesome stuff. I mean, they are premium pricing, but it's small business. The guy makes them, you know, on his own. So, um, you are going to pay a little bit of a premium versus like a mass.
01:02:50
Speaker
Produced product like this. I don't know what the quality as far as like the cardboard is and stuff on the the rants Magda but for $10 a pop like you can't you can't beat that but yeah, we are gonna be implementing these into our into our ICW arena and I'm pumped because I feel like for as As inexpensive as these are like you can get them for every event, you know, so I'm pumped about those. I'm excited. I
01:03:12
Speaker
It's a pretty cool addition and some of the Mattel I love seeing that King Mabel elite Mattel. Hopefully that goes up for pre-order on Ringside collectibles. I'm not gonna mess around with that I'm tired of I love the hunt and and part of me is like and if one of these guys in this chat group finds his Pete done for me I'm gonna buy it but you know 50% of this is just kind of I want to find this fucking thing so bad just because it's yeah
01:03:35
Speaker
Yeah, it's kind of eluding me. But for the King Mabel, I want it so bad, I'm just going to spend the extra money and buy it on ringside and get it pre-ordered because I just don't have no time in the day to be searching all these stores. Yeah, it's a lot, especially with all these new drops coming out too.
01:03:56
Speaker
I mean, you just never know where stuff's going to be. And that's kind of the thing about figure hunting now. Like you kind of have to accept either you're going to be disappointed like 90% of the time, and then you're going to have that 10% where you're like, oh, hell yeah. Like I found something, you know? Um, and that's just the way it is now, or you have to be open to buying stuff online or making connections in your figure community. But yeah, the only thing I saw that I wasn't like, I mean, the weakest thing I saw was probably that Brie figure, the Brie elite. She was kind of weak, like, you know, no, no big deal. And we'd already seen like the Rhonda and the warrior mockups and everything and like the pictures of those. So.
01:04:26
Speaker
Um, overall, like the toy fair, if you go to at ringside collectibles, you can see all of the New York toy fair, um, stuff that, that was released. So I definitely recommend checking it out.
01:04:35
Speaker
Yeah, there's a cool Mattel video where they kind of went through all the different things. I'm going to post it onto the Patreon page, but you can find it on Ringside Collectibles. It's not something that is exclusive to our website, but it's something I want to make sure everybody sees because it's a pretty cool kind of close-up of everything. I'm not a huge fan of that next Elite set, which is probably going to be good for my pocketbook, but that Elite 68.
01:04:58
Speaker
And you know, Elite 67 is all those figures are fire. Elite 68, I wasn't a, I'm not a huge fan of any of those. I mean, the Dan O'Brien looks cool in the Seattle Seahawks colors, but yeah, the brie is kind of eh. And you know, it's nothing that really caught my eye besides that King Mabel. But I'm excited about the Retro Series 9. That's, that looks pretty cool. That's for pre-order now on ringside collectibles as well. You got Macho Man, Goldust, Randy Orton, and Samoa Joe, your boy.
01:05:25
Speaker
So that series looks like it's alive and kicking, which is good. Yeah. Yeah, I'm pumped. I'm excited. I don't even collect retros, and I was pretty pumped about the retro series name. Yeah, for sure. So yeah, a bunch of good news. We'll keep everybody updated on when some of that stuff is dropping into stores. But let's get into our random merch of the week. This is a segment that is getting more and more fun every week because Sheena has been finding some really great stuff. And this one is a doozy.
01:05:54
Speaker
Yeah. Um, so guys, if you're interested, um, the, uh, macho man's bone saw gear from the movie spider man is up on eBay. Um, it's a pretty good bargain, only 25,000. So if you got that laying around anywhere, um, you do get free shipping or it's best offer. So we could probably get a deal on it. If we, um, if we messaged them and see if we could like maybe get it for like maybe 20 K.
01:06:20
Speaker
Um, but guys, this is like the legit ring gear from, um, you know, the, he wore in the movie spider man. So I don't know where this person got this, how they have it. Um, you know, but it is pretty freaking mage and I would.
01:06:34
Speaker
Like, I think as a Chick Foley show, we should just go in and, uh, like start a GoFundMe and then we can like all buy it. And it can be like, we all have her, you know, a special piece of Spider-Man macho man history. We'll each, we each get like a week of that. We can wear it or something. We'll mail it to each other. Yeah. Did you say the price of it? Yeah. $25,000. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of people to go in on this one.
01:06:59
Speaker
Yeah, we make sure when you ship it when we're shipping it to each other, you ensure it. Yes, please. Tell me what you think of this impression. I'm going to turn the volume down a little bit. I want your honest opinion. Elizabeth, Elizabeth, will you marry me?
01:07:17
Speaker
I think you nailed it, Phil. I think you did a really good job. Yeah, the acoustics in here aren't great. But yeah, if you want that Macho Man bone saw outfit, it's, I don't know if, is it free shipping for the $25,000? It is free shipping. Yeah, free shipping. Well, that helps a little bit. That's good. Now it's time for our retro wrestling recommendation of the week. I didn't slack this week. I don't have one, but Sheena picked up the slack. She has a really good one.
01:07:42
Speaker
It's a good one. Yeah. It's fast lane from 2015. Uh, it's Daniel Bryan versus Roman Reign. So this is the main event of the first ever fast lane. Um, and it's, they were fighting to see who was going to go to WrestleMania 31 to face Brock. So, um, it's, it's super unique because it's the only pay-per-view match between these two guys. So, um, it's probably in my opinion, the best match in fast lane history. So definitely check it out on your WWE network. Um, it's a good one. Tell me in the storied history of fast lane, this is the best match.
01:08:11
Speaker
Well, yeah, I mean, 2015, we've had so many years to develop these awesome feuds, you know, that lead up to the road to WrestleMania. Was it 16 when we had Triple H and Dean Ambrose wrestling for the title? At Fastlane? I think so. Let me pull up my Google machine. Yeah, it's worth it. It's worth a Google. I think that was a really good match too. That was one of my favorite Dean Ambrose matches. I think he came in as champ, but I could be wrong.
Community Engagement & Listener Questions
01:08:45
Speaker
I would have to. I have to Google my things. No problem. Somebody will email us, I'm sure. Yeah. But we do have some listener mail this week. So I want to go ahead and get right into that. We have a listener mail from Trey, our buddy Trey at My Damn Toys. He says, what's good, Sheena and Phil. This week I decided to keep the question on action figure side of things. So I asked both of you,
01:09:05
Speaker
I wanna ask both of you the same question. And my question is, what is your favorite thing about collecting WWE action figures? I guess I'll give you my answer as an example, but mine is the creativity in the hobby.
01:09:16
Speaker
the creativity behind the hobby, being able to do so many things with whether it's customizing photography, pick fitting, stop motion, or just switching parts around and creating new figure. I'm amazed by all things that people around the community are able to come up with. I know for some people they just buy them and set them on the shelves, but is it deeper than that for you guys? Or is it just like, hey, like Seth Rollins, let me buy this plastic replica of Seth Rollins.
01:09:39
Speaker
I hope you two and your families are having a blessed week. Check out my YouTube channel and the best WWE action figure videos at my damn toys, Trey or my damn toys. And he does do some amazing stuff over. So if you don't follow him, you definitely need to. For sure, that's great. Yeah, and I'll start this. Honestly, like I love the creativity and stuff of it too. I'm a, I'm a, I'm a nostalgia person and I'm a collector by nature. Like I love to collect things and display things. And I have a very visual, like I love visual presentations.
01:10:07
Speaker
of things. So for me, I do love to display them, but I also love to play with them. I love to take pictures of them. I don't do as much like fun figure photography as I do now. Like sometimes he'll husband, I'll like take a picture of a figure and throw it up on the Instagram. But I used to take like my pop vinyls out and like, you know, take pictures of them. And if you look up, um, you know, like hashtag adventures with Brett, I used to take this like, uh, Jack's classic Brett Hart figure out with me everywhere. And like, you know, wherever I was, I like took a picture of like traveling Brett. Um, so yeah, I like to, um, I like to collect
01:10:37
Speaker
like than I like to play and obviously we do Instagram championship wrestling so we we do like a you know stop motion like pick fed and it's pretty cool I like it all and I love love love what some of the people in the community do just like the creativity that they bring to action figures and just bringing them to life.
01:10:56
Speaker
awesome yeah i have uh... almost on the different side of the coin i uh... i hosted a ravens podcast for who probably five or six years and i was big into you know blogging about the team we had interviews and stuff like that and
01:11:11
Speaker
And it was, I was on the radio once a week. It was cool. But it got to the point where it was very combative with the other people that were Ravens fans. No one agreed. You listened to Sports Talk Radio and everyone was kind of fighting. And if your opinion was wrong, if you thought if you thought something was going to happen, didn't happen, you get a bunch of hate tweets and people laughing at you. And it just, it just was people would question your intelligence and didn't think you knew what you're talking about. It was a lot of like,
01:11:35
Speaker
Uh, more, much more hostile where now I run the chick Foley showed Twitter account, um, which has been fun. We were, we're over like 600 followers and we just had like 500 last week. I feel like so people are following us. We're, we're, we're retweeting stuff. People are sharing collections and advice and it's just more of a cool, like, you know, we all like the same shit. We all collect the same stuff. So, you know, let's have fun with it and like share tips and, you know, Hey, you need this. I need that figure. Let's trade this or.
01:12:03
Speaker
Hey, I picked up an extra one of these. Who needs one? I'll ship it to you." And we've done that for a couple of folks. We talked about it last week. We have some listeners in Ireland and England, and I sent them some retro figures. And my wife's like, are they going to pay you? I was like, yeah, they've already paid me. I mean, they paypound me like a second later, and I bought them, and I'm shipping them out, and it's all good. I don't mind doing that stuff. I don't mind staying in line in the post office for five seconds.
01:12:26
Speaker
But yeah, it's just a cool community and everyone seems to get along. We're all doing the same thing, trying to get the same thing done, and we're having fun doing it. So that's probably my favorite part of it. Yeah, it is cool. And it's just cool. To me, I'm just a person who, even though I'm a grown-ass woman and I'm an adult, I have that Peter Pan syndrome. You know what I'm saying? I'm never too cool or too old for something. I like to have fun.
01:12:55
Speaker
you know just be a kid at heart and i think you know for us especially that grew up in the time that we did like you know uh 80s and 90s like i feel like toys have a really special place in our childhood you know like now kids they have electronics and stuff and for our generation it was like we it was it was about toys you know so toys are always going to have that like
01:13:15
Speaker
like emotional tie for us and that nostalgia feel and that's part of it for me is just the nostalgia of it all and just being like you know reminiscing of like a simpler time when you were like a kid you know and you could enjoy like playing with action figures and now you know you're adulting and there's so much more distractions around and you think about how like you were
01:13:32
Speaker
how much your imagination works like that's why I hope like Brett is really into action figures and stuff because I feel like you know those type of things really bring out creativity in you because they don't stimulate you like you have to stimulate your brain and your mind and your imagination with those toys um and so um that's uh just to add on to what I said earlier that's another reason why I just love toys and action figures and collecting in general.
01:13:56
Speaker
Cool, good stuff, yeah. I mean, it's definitely a great question, man. Thanks, Trey, for bringing that up and follow his stuff at MyDamnToys on YouTube. Our other question is from Raw is Ryan. Can I read this one? Yeah, go for it. If you could choose one to three superstars slash divas that have left the WWE in the past few years to bring back, who would they be? I'd like to see Wade Barrett, Bad News Barrett.
01:14:21
Speaker
John Morrison wherever he goes by now and Caitlin she had a good showing in the Mae Young classic so I'm gonna go first and he actually stole a couple of mine because I've talked about my love for John Morrison on this show I don't know what it is about him I just maybe because I was such a big Shawn Michaels mark I was really a huge fan of his I would have loved to see him come back to the WWE and hopefully it's
01:14:43
Speaker
You know, it still happens that he's still wrestling around at some point. And my other one is AJ Lee. I think she would fit into the women's division now really well. Dan stole mine. Sorry, sorry. I'm sure she'd have some great matches with Alexa Bliss and all those girls. So those are those are two of mine that I could think of right off right off the top. But yeah, John Morrison's a big even Wade Barrett. I thought he was he was underutilized when he was around. He was a shit kicker.
01:15:10
Speaker
Yeah, I had AJ Lee was the first one that came to mind. I think she would be a perfect because she was kind of ahead of her time and like wrestling and kind of being like, you know, counterculture to the divas, you know, and I think she would fit in really well. I would love to see like her and Sasha Banks go at it. I think that would be awesome.
01:15:26
Speaker
And another one is Emma. I think Emma really, you know, she kind of was, she's a great wrestler and then she kind of went on the shelf for a little while and then they were going to have that emolution, you know, the rebranding of Emma. Um, and it never panned out. And I think, you know, I, I just feel like she was kind of stuck in that weird place while all of the stuff was happening around her with the, with the women's revolution with Sasha and Bailey and you know, all those women coming up and Charlotte and Becky.
01:15:49
Speaker
Um, that they didn't really have a place for her because she's, she's an awesome wrestler. So I really liked her. I would love to see her come back and actually have a shot. Um, and then maybe like Hideo, I feel like Hideo, he just got released, but I feel like the poor guy like really never got his due. You know, he, he, he should have had a better run in WWE. He just had that. He just got plagued by the injury bug and all those things. So I would have really liked to see what he could have done.
Patreon Promotion & Conclusion
01:16:13
Speaker
cool good answer man if you guys have questions shoot us over ask chick Foley at gmail.com we love to hear from you we're gonna record a special patreon exclusive episode we've we started our bracket of our top 32 gimmicks of all time we're gonna do the second and third rounds of that and
01:16:33
Speaker
And we're going to put together another one in the next week or so. Me and Sheena are going to list off. They've now announced these Ultimate Edition figures with Rhonda and the Ultimate Warrior. We're going to kind of fantasy book the next four or five sets of those over the next year of who we want to see with those awesome deluxe figures. So be on the lookout for that. It's Patreon.com slash Chick Foley show. You can literally sign up for a dollar a month. The preferred tier is $5 a month. That's basically a dollar per episode a month, guys. If you can help us out.
01:17:02
Speaker
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01:17:27
Speaker
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01:17:52
Speaker
They're tuning up the band right now. They're starting to get a little irritable. So yeah, they know how long the podcast is supposed to run. Very nice. Well, Sheena, anything else to add before we get out of here? Not today, man. I'm excited for another amazing week of wrestling and figure hunting and all the things that we love to do. Hopefully by the time I get back on this show, I will have a Pete Dunn sitting here on the desk staring at me with his curled upper lip. Same.
01:18:21
Speaker
And we will be in touch, guys. If you like the show and enjoy the show, continue to support us. If you have a friend that we think would like it, send them the link, spread the word. We want to build this community if we can and stay classy, Marks. We'll talk to you next week.