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Episode 7 | Life Comes At You Fast
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We open this episode with Chelsea’s difficult December. First is Chelsea 1–3 Leeds, where Leeds’ high energy and sharp transitions gave Chelsea problems all game. Chelsea grabbed a goal but never found control, and Leeds fully earned the win.
Next is Chelsea vs Bournemouth, a 0–0 showing that highlighted Chelsea’s defensive solidity but exposed their ongoing struggle to convert possession into real chances. A clean sheet, but not much more.
Then we move to Manchester United. In United 1–1 West Ham, United held the ball for long periods but lacked the creativity to break West Ham down. A counterattack put United behind before they pulled level, but the breakthrough never came.
Finally, Wolves 1–4 Manchester United flips the script. United were decisive, clinical, and in full control. Their attacking play clicked—fast transitions, confident finishing, and a rare December match where everything worked. Wolves had moments, but United’s quality and aggression in the final third made the difference.
Across the four matches, the story stays clear: Chelsea—solid foundation, inconsistent end product. United—up-and-down performances, but capable of explosive attacking displays when it all comes together.
A sharp look at two clubs trying to find rhythm as winter intensifies.
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Transcript
Introductions and Team Allegiances
00:00:38
Speaker
Yo, don't cry, don't beg, don't blame the ref. Welcome to another episode of the pod. It's a podcast where two fans vent about their teams. Well, I'm not going to do too much venting.
00:00:52
Speaker
um The guy in the other corner that might be doing quite a bit, so going to get him to kick off the show today. So, representing the red corner, you've got me, Dom. And in the blue corner, you've got me, E-Man.
Football Season Chaos and Arsenal Encounters
00:01:06
Speaker
moment it's been for we hit december games are coming thick and fast yeah a lot happening there's a lot happening and even on and off the pitch on both sides like it's actually not even just what our club's like it's just going on football's just kicking off i don't know what's going on yeah i want to i want to i want to start off with well look last week i was a bit loud you know when i've when I've got Arsenal fan on board, like, and you know what makes it worse, actually, is when it's your mate, and he rattled me from the morning.
00:01:39
Speaker
So it was really residual. Like, I was ready on edge. yeah yeah So... myself so learning ah yeah i was just I was just ready to pounce on anything he said. But but I say that to say, like, life hits you fast.
00:01:56
Speaker
And... when When your team just gives you a vibe that they call they can't commit to.
Arsenal's Struggles with Unai Emery
00:02:05
Speaker
Bro, you were celebrating that 1-1 victory, bro.
00:02:10
Speaker
let's It was like crazy. only Only for your team to come and shame you. Shame you like that. And obviously, um like you said, just to go back to you last week,
00:02:22
Speaker
Obviously, I want to say thank you to Yusuf for being our first guest as well. i like I like to think he did a good job. I hope you guys agree. We'll obviously love have him back on and later on down the we lock down the season. He's going to get a bit sticky for us. I wish we had him on again. to that yeah out oh a just a bit perfect just to quick just to quickly talk on that one. Just very quick, yeah.
00:02:46
Speaker
the way All the players just collapsed as the second goal went in. As Villers scored the second goal. I swear, yeah. bla And Dorfie... Emery's got Emery's got Arteta's number. I don't know what it is. he's your He's just like, bro, listen, you can't small boy me. I'm a big man for you. I don't care how much money you spend.
00:03:06
Speaker
I'm going to slap your head every time. And I love it. It's extra spicy because the Arsenal fans hate him because they think he's done a crap job. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Recording Challenges and Chelsea's Title Hopes
00:03:14
Speaker
And... Every time, i swear, every time he's like, let's say, because the first five games, they weren there were winless, innit? The guys in my group chat were messaging saying, oh, no look at Henry. Nobody chats when he's doing crap, blah, blah, blah. Look, now he's slapped you, slapped you. Actually, we might as well get into the title race. And but by the way, um just FYI, there's some construction work going on in the house that I'm in right now.
00:03:43
Speaker
um I'm not recording from my same location, so you might be hearing a bit of a mad thing in the background, but hopefully it's not too bad. But yeah, let's start off with the title race. Let's start off with Chelsea, title contenders.
00:03:55
Speaker
A week ago, they were what? How many points off were you? A week ago, you were like, what? Was three points, four points? Oh, six points. Yeah, we were six points off before the game. Six points off.
00:04:06
Speaker
Yeah. And then now you're currently setting that up. We're eight. Eight points? We're eight points, but... Yeah, it's not too bad, but iss it's a shame because you go from kind of, you know, hoping you'd go three points three points behind them and then it's just really, really poor performances. I think it's it's it's a performance. Like, okay, cool. We we we didn't beat Arsenal, but at the end of the day, it showed a performance that showed grit. And, you know, I think with Chelsea fans is we want to believe that we can compete and we want to believe that, you know, with anybody that we go against, we can we can do a team.
00:04:46
Speaker
So it's quite frustrating to... to now go into these games with Leeds and Bournemouth and we're just...
Chelsea's Inconsistencies and Fan Reactions
00:04:54
Speaker
Yeah, we're just off it. Absolutely off it. um Just to kind of... I think, yeah yeah, go ahead, go ahead. No, no, you go, you go.
00:05:02
Speaker
No, I was going to say, like, is football is really... a humbler. Like, you feel good one week, you feel what a good, like, one day after, and you start looking too far ahead into the future. You start picturing the wedding already. You start picturing the, you start picturing the trophy lift. You start picturing the, you know what, we got this game next and then that game. These are three points, easy three points. And pretty sure that's what you're thinking, like, coming up against Leeds.
00:05:29
Speaker
so and and and and that's why those and And that's why those results against Leeds, those hit hit fans like bombshell. Because the fans are starting to believe they're getting happy. they'll they're chatting there they're chatting there um you know they're chatting They're chatting a lot. They're bantering a lot. they're They're putting it on an Arsenal, this, that, whatever. And then when when that result hits, they the the emotions, they go mad. And even me myself, I'll be honest, I didn't really...
00:06:01
Speaker
I think the result hurt a lot, but I didn't do a lot too much of shouting. it was just disappointment. It was just, it was just really, really disappointed with the performance and how we, how we took that game. so you know John Terry took to to took to TikTok after the game to kind of um say a few words and and explain that you know against games like Leeds, Leeds hate us. We hate Leeds.
00:06:25
Speaker
um we've got We've only won six times in the last 50 attempts or something against Leeds. What? at At their stadium. Oh, fair. good To be fair, like if if you go back in time, these were a couple teams. They were serious guys. so like It looks crazy now because they were just promoted, but like they're serious guys.
00:06:45
Speaker
Facts. um But I think because this fixture hasn't happened in a while and it's a whole new squad, did they know the severity of the of the game as they before as they went into it?
00:06:58
Speaker
I'm not too sure. And the way and the way we took that game... it told me that, nah, we didn't approach it in the way that we should have. So a manager that's never played, that's never managed Chelsea in a Leeds versus Chelsea game, um you've got players mostly who have never played. Damn, it was that loud.
00:07:26
Speaker
I'm telling you, it's construction work. You know Every time you talk, I'm just going to mute myself in there. don't like it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's do that. Go ahead, go ahead. I was thinking, wait, what? So, um and every time we go up against... Anyway, so, look, the point I'm so the point i'm trying to make is ah assume like As soon as the game started, I see us trying to do this slow-paced, put your foot on the ball, control the game kind of football.
00:07:58
Speaker
You know, I'm sorry. fact The first 10 minutes against Leeds, you chuck that ball up the pitch. You don't try and play out the back. You don't.
00:08:08
Speaker
They just want to press you to death with all energy, with the fans screaming in the background. And this is what John Terry meant about, you know, you've got to earn your right to play in the first 10 minutes. And it sounds like buzzwords, but what that means is you've got to match their pace and you've got to win your duels. And if if you don't win your duels, you don't concede.
00:08:30
Speaker
You don't concede and you fight, you battle, you...
Tactical Missteps Against Leeds
00:08:33
Speaker
And if you're in trouble, you clear that ball into the corners, you push up the pitch and you press them in their own half so that you can get it, nick it and go.
00:08:42
Speaker
that's That's what you have to do. You have to play it smart. You take less risk because what will happen is that energy will go down after 10 to 15 minutes. And then you'll have a bit more space to play, to pop it and move.
00:08:54
Speaker
But you can see it from the off. We pass it back. It goes into Sanchez. Slow pass from Sanchez into Cucurella. They pounce on Cucurella. Cucurella has a poor clearance. They get a corner from it. Bang, 1-0.
00:09:07
Speaker
Because, like, and and I see it coming. I see it coming. um In my head, I'm like, Sanchez, clear that ball. Do not pass it to Cucurella. He does it anyway. Cool. After we go down 1-0, Sanchez does it. Ball comes to him again.
00:09:20
Speaker
Sanchez hesitates on the clearance. He tries to... I think he's taking his time. They're pressing him to death. And then he has to clear it awkwardly with less ah room to swing his leg fully. It drops in the middle of the pitch. um They get a corner another corner from it.
00:09:36
Speaker
Like, come on. Like, come on. Come on. You do... Like, first 10 minutes, you don't take your risk. You don't take any risk. Pop it in the corner. We push up the pitch. You press...
00:09:49
Speaker
That's what you have to do. like you don't You're not here to play pretty, pretty football. You're here to get results. And these teams, they're sniffing for blood. They're sniffing. They're sniffing.
00:10:01
Speaker
And it's it's it's so it's so it's so frustrating. And look, don't get me wrong. We looked last, like lost, ah the energy was a bit low.
00:10:11
Speaker
But when you're not at your best, you've got to do what you've got to do to to to win the game. And what that means is you might you stay compact, you stay tight, you you you maybe don't play as expansive as you usually
Young Player Performances at Chelsea
00:10:24
Speaker
would. You take less risks, you hit corners and and you play off set pieces, second balls and things like that.
00:10:30
Speaker
Because that's what they're doing. That's what they're doing. and you're not winning and they're And they're winning their doors and they're playing in our half. And my point is that why are we keeping ball so much in our half? They want they want it in our half.
00:10:43
Speaker
That's where they want to get it, nick it and go. No, you've got to get it in their half. They don't want to defend. They don't want to. Anyway, so that game, yeah for a neutral, I'm sure... i'm so i'm The thing is, yeah, it's like, I hear what you're saying, but do you think the players were...
00:11:05
Speaker
on the hype, like they bought into the hype of the Arsenal performance as much as the fans sort of did. Because I felt like you guys were just so like off the pace. Like I don't even have to describe it. just felt like, obviously was a rotated side. It was a bit, it wasn't your traditional lineup. There no Rich James, was no Gusto.
00:11:29
Speaker
Santos is um back in, well, he's been playing the last couple of games, to be fair. Your best friend Tosin is back in. and then it's just like, looking at the performance, and oh my, bro, the lap here, listen, man, you know, so yeah i i think I think you've predicted the future because everything you've said about Jackson, yeah,
00:11:51
Speaker
I'm seeing the Chelsea fans change their narrative. That's it. I'm seeing it all over. I'm seeing, oh, bring back my striker. That's it. At least I would rather have Nicholas Jackson. That's it.
00:12:05
Speaker
100 times. I have to watch Liam Dillap play football. That's the energy that your fan base is on now. Bro, so just to just see just to kind of... I'm going to chat on that Dillap and Jackson thing, 100%, because I want to go off the...
00:12:21
Speaker
the in terms of like us us looking off the pace... I'm not really going to take that as an excuse because it's five. we i think we had about five players rotated. I even think he did one too many. I think he should have had at least one of Garnaccio or Neto on for either Gittins or Esteval because Garnaccio Neto defend much better and they have a lot more experience in the Premier League. yeah um So he did one he rotated one too many players and he and you could see that half-time he hooks Esteval then he brings he brings on Neto. Yeah.
00:12:55
Speaker
um And we were better. We were better in the second half because of it. Nesquik gets a goal earlier. Don't skim over that Estabelle thing. Why did he hook him? What was that? Was he not good? Look, look, look. Because I know there's nice scapegoats that people like to harp on. But how was your boy? Was he good or was he not? Look.
00:13:20
Speaker
He done exactly what you expect of an 18-year-old. Like, he has a difficult... What, not him? Chill, chill. He has a difficult opponent and then he keeps trying to do... Rather than understanding that, oh, you know what, today the environment and the player that I'm playing against is difficult today. Let me do something a little bit more simpler.
00:13:44
Speaker
So what he really should have done was... OK, I need to combine with my teammates, drift inside, drift in the middle, just be a bit more creative and and and and and and think a little bit more outside of the box. Whereas he started to focus on trying to take on the player nonstop.
00:14:00
Speaker
And he just didn't need to do that. And a turnover, turnover, every time he got the ball, turnover, turnover, turnover. which leads to the, he gets frustrated. That's why he kicks up the guy like that.
00:14:11
Speaker
He gets frustrated because he knows he's messed up. um He hasn't played well at all. Kicks the guy, yellow card. And manager's done the right thing taking him off because most likely probably going to get a second yellow and in the second half. and And that's what it is. That's what you get with an 18-year-old. And look, players like that, they get leeway from me, boy. I'm not going to absolutely kill them for it. You're 18, you're learning your trade, whatever.
00:14:38
Speaker
It's players like Kittens that I'm a bit more annoyed about. So, look, like, players like that are always going to get leeway because you're 18. It's players like Kittens who has a bit more, um you know, experience at the top level. Well, yeah, at the top level, you know, playing for Germany, um playing in the English academy, English world. and...
00:14:58
Speaker
english english academy english world so and And players like that, I've got to criticise getting into off the ball work. And it's not to say he's not trying. It's the it's the quality of it.
00:15:11
Speaker
it's You're not winning your duels. You're not staying goal side. You you haven't got your arms out push them pushing players and keeping um knocking them off but off balance. um He's half a second off when... you know gaps in the middle between him and the centre-mid are appearing and he's not tucking in to to force the ball out wide. there's little Little tiny things like that that's making the game harder for us.
00:15:30
Speaker
um He's getting the ball back to goal. He's getting it from Kukurelo or Chalabar and he's losing it He's losing that duel. He's getting pushed over. He's like, bro, no, you've got to be strong. Lean off.
00:15:41
Speaker
good first touch, secure the ball, maybe drive inside, go on the outside, but you have to retain that ball set someone and go. You have to retain it. And in those high tempo, um high pressure games, you have to hold it and you get a foul.
00:15:53
Speaker
If you either get a foul, you keep possessions. One of the two, you can't keep losing it. So anyway, I say to to round up to round up that, it's just like, Yeah, you're right. we Everyone was just not at it. They weren't at it. And they I don't think they really understood what was at stake.
00:16:10
Speaker
They generally didn't. Because if you if you took it as seriously as you did the united sorry the Arsenal game, ah that that result doesn't happen. And we most likely have a battle for draw or win.
00:16:22
Speaker
So... Anyway, let's go back on that Jackson thing. Look, De Lapp has played Leeds and he's now played Bournemouth as well. He got injured against Bournemouth, which is ironic because he got injured battling with someone, which is all he does on the pitch.
00:16:39
Speaker
All is battle. He's smelling a bit. He's smelling a bit of Hoyland-ish. I'm not even going to lie. He's like Hoyland with a little bit more tech, but he's he's smelling like that. He stinks like that.
00:16:50
Speaker
But yeah is is iss Can I say he's trying? I think against Leeds, his press was horrible and I don't think he put in enough effort. um yeah Against Bournemouth, he had a lot more energy and he was getting about um and he was moving more. But that performance against Leeds was really, really bad.
00:17:12
Speaker
um it's unimaginative, unimagin unimaginative ah consistently losing the ball, never side on, never arms out, ensuring that he's he traps the ball and holds the defender off.
00:17:25
Speaker
He's, you know, getting pushed over, bundled over. He has one or two moments of, you know, okay, yeah, kept the ball. But honestly, overall... it's it's it's looking really really difficult and unfortunately for him you know you could say it's harsh he's had two months two and a half months injured and then now he's out for two months again with a dislocated shoulder um so you could say we're probably judging him a bit too early but i'll be honest man ah you could watch two minutes of him with Leeds sorry when he was with Ipswich and you can watch two minutes of Jackson it's night and day it's night and day are we talking about
00:18:03
Speaker
What are we talking about? Chelsea fans trying to convince themselves that they're they're they're doing a... Like, we've done we've done an upgrade. Like... No. like what what the The issue with the Dillap thing is, it's just shiny new toy syndrome, bro. Everyone's gassed about new signings and they think they're better than they actually are. Bay United fans were twerking for Dillap as well. When he chose twelve Chelsea, they were fuming.
00:18:26
Speaker
They were fuming. How can we let him go to Chelsea? This is what happened. Amorim didn't get Champions League football, so now we're missing out on Dillap. And then now when you're watching them, it's just like, oh.
00:18:37
Speaker
maybe we were right for the not getting him. He literally looks like a Ipswich striker. He looks like a championship striker in the Premier League. Same thoughts that have towards like a Strand-Larsen and all of these, man. It's not that they're not good in their own right. It's just that, are they ready for big time? And probably not.
00:18:55
Speaker
Probably not. for Maybe they're like four more years. he might be a completely different player, but he's not going to get the time to develop at Chelsea. He's just going to be... This is what he is. And as Abi figures it out, all he's gone. that He's got 18 more months to figure out.
00:19:10
Speaker
That's it. 100%. So, going on to Bournemouth... Hold on. My battery's going to die. What minute we in 1947?
00:19:23
Speaker
but It's come up fill in the gap. Yeah, so... And you're just about to go into the Bournemouth game. So for my POV, that Bournemouth game, it started off almost similarly to how the Leeds game started off. Your team didn't really seem like they were 100% at it, ready to go.
00:19:43
Speaker
Bournemouth had a few chances. The Semenyo offside goal, like it was offside, wasn't too much. But that should have been warning signs for what was coming later. I feel like Bournemouth created quite a few decent chances early on. Semenyo, I think it think it was a shot that kind of um turned into a cross. And then Evan Nilsson, I don't know how he missed that.
00:20:06
Speaker
I don't know how he missed that He just missed the... that's borderline a clear-cut chance at that point. I just think the pace of the shot just kind of, it's just too difficult for him to turn a face goal. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But on another day that goes in and Chelsea are like 1-0 down and then they start looking at, oh, it's a replay of the Leeds game and then you guys just struggled to really create anything and really get into the game for what it was.
00:20:34
Speaker
The one thing, the what i will say how it was different to the Leeds game is, um Leeds defended deeper, whereas Bournemouth, you know, they were a bit more expansive and there was a lot of opportunities for us to get them on the counter attack. And even with our, you know, playing from deep, when we're building up from the back, we we were getting a lot of success. um You know, one or two scary moments, but we were getting a lot of success in getting the ball through midfield into the attacking areas.
00:21:07
Speaker
um I'm going to give Palmer some leeway. he's been in He's played one game this whole season. He's clearly not fit. The other two? Hmm.
00:21:21
Speaker
Who's the other two? Who's the other two you're talking about? Ganache and Neto. Like, guys, not ah too seriously, seriously, that was that was honestly so scary.
00:21:36
Speaker
That was treacherous. Twins. Them lot. that Do know it is? They both had... You know how like people have like opinions of Neto and Ganache? Like, on their day, they can be good.
00:21:51
Speaker
This was both of their not-on-their-day kind of game. who Both of them. That's the worst version of both of them at the same time. They were twinning. who It was so bad.
00:22:04
Speaker
And and i feel I do feel for them because I look at the... I'm trying to look at, OK, what kind of movement is the striker making? And then this you know young boy, Giri, comes on, who is also really not good. um The young boy comes on and I'm looking... And I feel bad for them because, OK, I look at the movement of the striker and the striker's not making any quality movement. So...
00:22:27
Speaker
it It becomes a a scenario where a lot of times they've it's difficult for them to to supply someone. um But in addition to that, neither of them can fashion a quality shot to test the keeper or just put the ball in the back of the net. I'm so sorry. If I put Elise there, Elise should be at my club.
00:22:51
Speaker
Elise should be at my club. If I put Elise there...
00:22:55
Speaker
if I put Elise there, he's banging minimum two goals that game. Because i I get what you mean in terms of how it started, in terms of Bournemouth having, you know, high tempo at first. But once we got a control of the game, we actually moved the ball relatively okay.
00:23:11
Speaker
we It wasn't like exciting or anything, but we moved the ball relatively okay. We defended some of those scary moments relatively well. And then they had the big chance that they missed. So...
00:23:23
Speaker
we had We now had a lot of we had a lot of opportunities in their half. Alise Baggs, goal and assist that game, minimum, minimum. and And the biggest thing is quality, quality. And even Palmer, he misplaced so many passes.
00:23:38
Speaker
But you can see how he's just got vision. He moves the ball crisply. Two feet touch, he's moving it. He's movement, he's dribbling, he's getting past players. This is guy that's half fit. And I know he's a quote-unquote world-class player and maybe it might be unfair to compare him to these men.
00:23:56
Speaker
But that's what it looks like, bro. That's what it looks like. And for his standard... Palmer has kind of been shafted, yeah. and Not even to say, like, it's Palmer's team, but obviously he's, like, the best... He's your best player in terms of the attacking sense.
00:24:15
Speaker
I'm pretty sure now that when he comes back from injury and he really looks around at what's around him, he might look and be like, yeah, you guys aren't being serious. this is bad No, often no. After winning the club World Cup and looking around... All right, cool.
00:24:30
Speaker
Esteval's got potential, but... The lap, Garnacho. This is what you lot want me to like lead the team with. like This is crazy. It's mad. accurate Eketike should be at Chelsea.
00:24:44
Speaker
Eketike should be at Chelsea. if lot got Eketike and Olyse and Estabelle. That was your window before. Do you know what kind of level that is? Somehow you ended up with this mismatch of players. I don't know.
00:25:01
Speaker
But these men don't want to pay the wages. Eketike is on 250 a week. I think Elyse is on like two. Yeah, yeah. Eketike is on bread, bro. Elyse is on like 220. So again, Chelsea didn't want to pay pay pay him pay him that salary.
00:25:15
Speaker
And you know what? That's that's that's the bread they've created. They want these low-wage players low-wage players who are on like 60 to 90, but they're dead.
00:25:28
Speaker
And that's why you have people like Jackson. You're skimping on your quality. You are, you are. And Palmer was a lucky, lucky punt. It's a lucky punt. It is. That's a good pick up.
00:25:43
Speaker
If it showed me that you knew what what you were doing, you'd have more Palmers, but you don't. You don't. It's true. Yeah. Anyway, look, so good luck to them, man. Like,
00:25:57
Speaker
two and now... Oh, good luck to Chelsea. It might not be like he's not part of the crew. It might not be like good luck to them. Bro, that's you. Good luck to yourself. You're not going need it.
00:26:08
Speaker
Do you mean? like It's not even... like this This season is so, like, up and down. It's so and down. It is, and it is, and... It's frustrating because literally three games, you win three games, you're you're up there in the top four. Bro, you can see what your drop points are doing to you. You can see what like... killer these Killing us. Killing us. Bro, if you, man, would have won those two games you played, if I add five points onto your thing, you're currently sitting third, tied with Villar.
00:26:35
Speaker
And you're three points off Arsenal who just lost. And now that title race talk is getting serious. I'm looking at Villa's form. Villa won five of their last... I think someone said they won like nine out of their last ten or something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They've been quietly bubbling.
00:26:53
Speaker
oh that Bro, they didn't score goal in the first four games of the season. year And now, because they hit that form and they won all these games, they're right up there. Obviously, no one's really looking at them like a title race, but why not? But the finger but the thing is... deadly Who knows?
00:27:10
Speaker
This Chelsea team can't win me nine games, bro. Nine out of ten. no They can't do it. They can't do it. And you know what? I'm really going to hone in on this not ready stuff.
00:27:21
Speaker
This is not ready stuff. It really grinds my gears. you know why? Because it's not about not being ready. They're not good enough to do it, bro. Some of these players are not good enough to do it. That's just the truth of the matter. And Chelsea fans need to start getting that into your head.
00:27:36
Speaker
Like, I'm sorry, at the moment, Ganache is not good enough. Neto is not the level of player that is good enough. um Enzo, Enzo was a disgrace against Bournemouth.
00:27:48
Speaker
He was walking around. He was walking around for some of that game, mate. So some of these players do not have either the mentality or the talent to really go and win nine games out of ten.
00:28:00
Speaker
So it is what it is. It is what it is, boy. Another summer, they've messed up messed up our recruitment. So we' we'll firm that, man. Let's let's talk let's talk about United. United had midweek.
00:28:17
Speaker
um You had West Ham, the Mighty Hammers. They've just got a new manager. um, what was his name? Nuno. Nuno.
00:28:28
Speaker
So they've got Nuno and actually they've been playing, they've been, they've been a bit more, so um, solid recently. So I was very, I was looking interest. I was looking at this game thinking, okay, something might happen, but I didn't really believe it in my heart because, you know, I knew West Ham weren't that good.
00:28:45
Speaker
Um, how, how was you feeling going into the game? Obviously off the, off the back of, um the result prior. Yeah, so we beat Palace the game before, um which is a big result because that's a game we typically use. But after every Man United game, I don't feel convinced. I'm never happy with the performance. I'm never happy with like the feeling after the game. So it never drags into the next game. Coming into this West Ham game, I'm looking at them saying, cool, let's look at this West Ham team.
00:29:21
Speaker
Do they have threats in their team who could punish us if we make mistakes that we're definitely going to end up making? The answer that question is yes. In Bowen and the other guys, Paqueta, they even have Somerville. But I forgot Paqueta got sent off.
00:29:36
Speaker
So then when I looked at the lineups and I saw, um oh yeah, Paqueta suspended. I'm saying, okay, cool. This is an opportunity... for Manchester United, again, to stamp ah lay a footprint down and say, like look, we want to really be in this top four race, right?
00:29:54
Speaker
do And then what happened what proceeded to happen in the game is the typical Manchester United stuff. Toothless, can't build, um just just struggling struggling to create any chances. And I'm just looking at the team, I'm saying like,
00:30:11
Speaker
Bro, this whole Bruno and Castamu, like, obviously we're talking about the West Ham game here. Even today, today we we won. We won. This is the convincing. The result we had today is a result we should have had against West Ham and also had today.
00:30:25
Speaker
That kind of result. But still, performance-wise, I'm looking at the pieces within the team and I'm saying this doesn't work. It doesn't work. It's always, throughout the entire season, we're going to keep seeing moments where you're saying to yourself,
00:30:39
Speaker
Why is the manager doing this? Why is the manager doing this? Why are we why are we forcing this? Do you know what ah you' not the biggest difference is for me? It's like, okay, cool. I think you guys had like, obviously it's five at the vet at the back versus five at the back.
00:30:53
Speaker
And West Ham obviously sit deep, but at times West Ham attack and look, sorry, I'm not explaining it well, but if you look at a United team of old and a Chelsea team of old,
00:31:08
Speaker
If one of these, in every game, the other team is going to try and attack you. yeah Yeah. And so at some point there is going to be an opportunity for us to transition on them.
00:31:20
Speaker
Yeah. And whenever we transition, yeah I'm talking about United and Chelsea, whenever we, these days, whenever we transition on these teams, we do not have the quality to capitalise. And we do not have the quality to be scoring on a consistent basis.
00:31:35
Speaker
So this ball goes into, um what's his name? Xerxi, it bubbles off his feet, it goes there. Or Xerxi tries to play the pass, but it's behind Mbwemo. The lap, dodgy touch, it's behind Neto. Bad cross from Neto, bad dribble from Ganacho. Whereas back in the day, Rooney, Ronaldo...
00:31:55
Speaker
Three, four passes, bam, in the back of the minute. really, urge everyone who's a football fan right now, if you're under the age of like 25, even if you're my age, maybe you don't remember it properly. I just want you to find a website. I know a website. I can bust you on the website. don't Please don't get my website cancelled, whatever.
00:32:16
Speaker
Listen, go watch a night minute a random 90-minute game from 2008.
00:32:22
Speaker
something like that, 2002, and just watch the way these lot bop, you will look at today's football and say, ah can't believe this is what i'm watching nowadays. I can't believe it. Because all these things that we make such a big thing of like, line-breaking passes, that wasn't a thing. It wasn't a thing because players just did that. Players just, oh, his touch. We weren't talking about players' touches. players' touches. I don't remember.
00:32:51
Speaker
I don't remember any player from that era having a bad touch. Do you know crap the pitches were? Like, not even... i it wasn't It wasn't as bad, but it's not this 3G, 4G stuff. Bro, with the balls bouncing, balling in the mud, and man are just... Sometimes I think I'm mad. Sometimes I think I'm like... no um no i'm i'm putting I'm putting the past on a pedestal.
00:33:13
Speaker
But how many men had a consistent bad touch? How many men? Bro, no. It's like everyone just knew how to ball. Like, that was the basic requirement of football. It's not physical attributes. It's literally the balls ping to you.
00:33:27
Speaker
Bam, kill the ball. First time, not looking. Bam, the ball's gone. You're not trying to have three, four touches to set the ball, get out your feet. No. Like, these men, like, the biggest example I want everyone to watch here is Roy Keane.
00:33:40
Speaker
Yeah? his His reputation is known as a hatchet, man. He's the guy who's just going to come crunch you, kill you, do all that stuff, rough up your players. He was just a rough... but Listen, if you go watch what Roy Keane was doing, yeah...
00:33:56
Speaker
for Manchester United, you would think this is one of the best DMs that ever existed, yeah? Because if you place him in today's football, that guy's costing over 100 million. Bro, the amount of times, yeah, he's winning the ball, yeah, and it's not even like a second thought. He's not even... He's getting mad at other players for playing it backwards. Man's like, just pass it. Like, he's there. He's over there. Just pass it to him. What's all this game stuff? Obviously, you can see someone might intercept it. Kick it hard. Like, he's just getting the... Bam! Straight to Rooney's feet. Rooney's spinning.
00:34:25
Speaker
Go on. Bro, the amount of times I'm watching Enzo or... um You know what?
00:34:37
Speaker
Fernandes has way more consistency than a lot of players, but I'm watching Enzo, a player that's won the World Cup, cost 100 mil, and you're passing the ball...
00:34:48
Speaker
two yards in front of the the player that's on your right that's about 15 yards away from you. And don't get wrong, it's not that I think everything should be perfect, but it happens way too often. People in the past made mistakes. It just felt like it was perfect. Nothing it was perfect.
00:35:02
Speaker
well But you can't be you can't be too ah doing it too often, bruv. What the heck? Bro, i don't know I don't know if it's like a mad time warp and everyone just got worse at football, but when you're actually watching them, you're thinking like,
00:35:16
Speaker
oh my God, these guys are amazing. These guys are the best football players I've ever seen in my life. And you're talking about like just, even even just like, Bro, someone like John O'Shea, bro. He's not even baller like that. But look at his actions when he gets the ball. Like, the touches, comp, the pass, Chris, switch, Diag. And you're not even thinking about this stuff. You're just watching the game and your ball's getting to your attackers in two passes. Boom, boom, gone. Attackers got the ball now. But anyway, let's not divert. About this West Ham game, that the thing that really got to me in terms of West Ham... It wasn't even the game. We drew 1-1. Those results are always going to happen throughout and throughout the season. yeah For me, it's two things.
00:36:00
Speaker
So first thing, the manager's substitutions in the game where we're 1-0 up. Cowardly. He says to himself, I want a shot-up shot.
00:36:11
Speaker
He made four defensive substitutions. in that game. And the only attacking option he brought on was Mason Mount. So he brought Ugate. He brought on Dogu. He brought on Leni Uro. And he brought on...
00:36:28
Speaker
um It wasn't Masawari. It was... a He brought on another defender. Whatever, yeah? So... i'm I'm looking at that and I'm saying to myself, oh, you don't you don't believe in what you're actually doing.
00:36:44
Speaker
this is This is all a lie. This is all a lie. So just to about justin just do a on that, yeah? In the press conference, he was asked he was asked about this. And then the comment he made, to the it was a bit snarky, which was fair, But the comment he made to the rap reporter was like, who what attacking option did you want me to bring on?
00:37:06
Speaker
who Who is it that you referred to that I had the option to to bring on? did Do you know what is yet? That was the second point that was going to say. So the initial thing is the subs in-game. And then the second thing is the response after. He doesn't see anything wrong with what he did.
00:37:23
Speaker
The result was just a result and he's moving on. So that means that's going to keep happening. Why does he keep changing centre-backs? Why does he keep changing the... Oh, the other um substitution was Martinez. He's back from injury now.
00:37:36
Speaker
Why does he keep changing centre-backs? Stop doing that. You're unsettling. You're back lying. If you're changing your wing-backs, to add more energy cool that's fair understand that position is physically demanded you need to be able to run swap them out cool fair enough changing your cinemax you come onto the pitch cold your touch is dead you don't know who you're marking don't know who you're picking up you're just thrown into no man's life why does he keep doing that and then afterwards the snide comments that he's making afterwards shout out who was it carl anchor man i think it was I'm going to say anchor Carl Sion, yeah? He's stuck on him. Man asked him a question and he said, I don't know. And I said, well, you've been asking, you've been answering. I don't know for the last time.
00:38:19
Speaker
Every time I ask you this question, like, come on, like, give us something. Like, you're not doing, and my man's getting better than he's getting snarky. And I think, personally, he's taken this Kobe Manu thing as like a threat to his authority. He's purposely, now it's personal.
00:38:36
Speaker
now it's personal now he's been stubborn he's been stubborn that's it he's not playing kobe menu because people keep telling him to play kobe menu it's nothing it's nothing to do with ability nothing to do with need nothing do with anything he is going to die on this hill now because you keep telling me to play this boy and this boy hasn't done anything wrong even a couple weeks ago maybe a couple months ago he's saying You know, he's doing everything right in training. He's doing everything right. He deserves to play. For you to just not play him in a game, and then we end drawing. You make all these defensive changes. The ball goes ricocheting. They score. 1-1.
00:39:16
Speaker
Idiot. You dropped two points. If we had them two points now, we'd be fourth. We'd be fourth. We'd be in the Champions League spot right now if we didn't do that. So... So my question to you, you're 1-0 up against West Ham, yeah?
00:39:28
Speaker
What would you have done, what subs would you have done in that moment? Or if any, if any, because I'm him saying he didn't have another option. He wanted to keep, rotate players. The thing is for me, I keep saying this, bro, I keep saying this, like, If you want control, you feel like the game's losing, you bring the players who want the ball. You don't bring on the guys who are just going to panic and crash into man. You don't adjust your defence for no reason.
00:39:57
Speaker
No one knows what they're doing at that point. So the only the main change i would have made is I would have brought on Kobe Manu. And also, I'm going for the second goal, bro. I'm going for the second goal, bro. Like, one that was not comfortable, especially us, who barely have a positive goal difference, and we only have a positive goal difference because of today.
00:40:18
Speaker
Bro, go for the second. And I'm not saying, I hate using this example because people are so misguided in what Manchester United represent, yeah, is, bro, bring on Shea Lacey.
00:40:31
Speaker
What's the point of putting these young youths on the bench if you're not going to give them a goal? And I'm not saying I've ever seen 90 minutes of Shea Lacey. I don't know if that guy is good. I don't know. But the foundation of Manchester United yeah is bringing through youth and just saying, here you go.
00:40:49
Speaker
Give it your best because they're going to care. He's going to run harder. He's going to try it. when that When he gets into those attacking areas, he knows it's important to make the right decision. He's not trying to be a star. He just wants to help the team. So bring him on. Fresh legs, energy. I don't know if he can play 10.
00:41:06
Speaker
I don't know if he's a wingback, but he could probably play him wingback because he's just going to run anyway. Bring on the youth player. Yeah, go ahead. Go ahead. But this is this is where I have to disagree with football fans, though. are like I know you're frustrated and you're looking for someone to blame, but that's not good management.
00:41:23
Speaker
you you you've Young players, especially when it's when it's their first few games, you bring them on when it's a good scenario, when you're 2-3-0 up or it's a cup game and you you're rotating the squad. and That's how you build them into it. You don't want to...
00:41:41
Speaker
You don't want to put them in high-pressure situations if you can avoid it. So I just don't think there's a manager out there that would have done that in that moment. Funny you say that.
00:41:53
Speaker
Because West Ham, they brought on the 18-year-old who's never played before to come on against us as their 1-0 down. Like, bro, I get what you're saying. No, the point is what you're saying is you want to build confidence into these youth players, isn't it? It's not like throw them into the wilderness, but one of the safest positions that you can bring on a youth player, especially if you're winning, is in attack because he's not worrying about, oh, if I make a pass wrong, they're in on goal. Oh, if I'm out of position, they're in on goal. It's just like, go out there go try something. Like, a lot of our best academy
00:42:32
Speaker
ah talents that have come through in recent years have all been attacking options because they're fearless. You talk about Marcus Rashford, you talk about Mason Greenland, Kobe Maneu is not you attacking.
00:42:43
Speaker
He's a midfielder, but that guy, he's got it. Whatever that mentality you need is, Kobe's got it Ability will catch up eventually, but he's got But yeah, anyway, let's talk about a West Ham game. That even comes into this the game today.
00:42:58
Speaker
I'm going into this game again saying... Bro, it's a poor performance, but we cannot lose to Wolves. We can't lose to Wolves. It doesn't matter how bad we play. If you lose to Wolves, what's left? What's the left? We've lost to Greensby. We've lost to Bearman. At that point, yeah,
00:43:16
Speaker
i would have If we would have lost the Wolves, I would have expected a faction of the Manchester United fan base to start throwing the eggs at the players and the manager. that That would have been it. that would have That should have been the final straw. We we go 1-0 up. Who scored the first goal? Was it Bruno? Yeah. So, bro, this guy, I keep, bro, I feel like every week I talk about this guy. Konya, yeah?
00:43:39
Speaker
Konya. Today, we won 4-1. Yeah. but he was rubbish almost messed up the pass to Bruno he plays a blind pass without even looking at it and he's one one with the goalkeeper yeah and he just almost mishits the pass completely. Bruno somehow manages to rescue it and does so well. Are you being... Wait, wait, wait, wait. Don't, man. Are you being harsh? Are you being harsh? He only has to do is square it.
00:44:09
Speaker
But because he's not looking at where Bruno is, he's he's thinking where Bruno is. So he just tries to just knock it across and hopes that, oh, Bruno's just got to tap him. When he passes it, he looks up and he's like, oh my God, I passed it behind him.
00:44:21
Speaker
Bro... That guy, ah you yo, you still there? Yeah, yeah, I'm still here. Oh, God, your thing looks like it throws, but yeah. Anyway, he lost the ball so many times today. He was, oh my God, he was so, Quinn was frustrating me so much. Someone needs to, you know what they need to do?
00:44:41
Speaker
he He plays like someone needs to charge him. someone Someone needs to charge him. like that I mean, like plug him into a socket yeah and charge him up because he seems like he's only playing on 40% battery. Charge him up 100% and let that guy go on the pitch because he seems so slow. i don't He needs to update his iOS. Bro, the game is going on.
00:45:00
Speaker
Stop taking the extra touch. Stop waiting stop waiting to feel pressure. Just pray play the pass. Play the pass. so no okay so with that one so with that one, you could say, so those kind of players, sometimes what they try and do is like,
00:45:14
Speaker
the more you can commit a player and then release it at the last second, then the more advantageous it is once you make the running behind them. Do you get I mean? so Yeah, feel like he's trying to suck them then lay it off and go. you know what mean? but But it's like the positions in which he's doing that, it's literally like no danger to them. So even if a player does dive out and he manages to get a pass off,
00:45:39
Speaker
He's not quick enough to spin into the open space. He's not. And even, not even forget Konya alone. That's not what they're instructed to do. They're not instructed to play that ball into that and that gap that that's opened up now. Now the ball just gets recycled again.
00:45:55
Speaker
So you're doing, you're inviting all this pressure For it to mean nothing. So what's the point? Just move the ball on and get into a good position to score. Bro, like you're playing, especially today, playing as a nine. Bro, you're at the halfway line trying to invite pressure. Bro, get in the box. get near the goal, bro.
00:46:12
Speaker
I don't understand. No, but he's... Okay, look, look the way wait, wait, wait, wait. So... I know Konya's mannerism. I know this is who he is. I'm not expecting... I'm not naming Konya, so to speak. I know what he's like, but I just need him to understand there's a football match going on. Yeah.
00:46:33
Speaker
Please, wake up. let'se Let's... just Just make better decisions based on the position that you're playing in, right? I don't need you left wing... trying to do one-twos when there's a big space in the middle because our striker has just disappeared because he wants to touch. like You know what mean? You're playing as a striker, unfortunately. I don't know. if it Maybe it's supposed to be a false name. Maybe this is by design because he's doing it and he's not getting penalised. He's playing the whole game. So maybe this is the idea of the manager.
00:47:05
Speaker
I also think he has no other option. So even if he's doing it wrong, the only option is actually... Yeah, and he was bad against West Ham as well. But still, it's like, bro, you can't keep... Bro, Konya hasn't had a good game in nine at all.
00:47:19
Speaker
And I'm pretty sure he's played there like six times, bro. He hasn't been good in the nine at all. But again, it's just it's just one of those things. But yeah, anyway. But then I think... Yeah, go ahead. I do think it worked a little bit better today just because feel like... And I may be talking about moments. So I'm... Yeah, yeah. I'm definitely talking about moments and it's probably not as consistent as you would want it. So I 100% emphasise with that. But I do think it was better than what I've seen from...
00:47:52
Speaker
um from your whole front line, it is Wolves. It is Wolves and Wolves do give you bit more space than you would get with other teams. So I do have to add that caveat. But I do think... Saying that, there was a funny moment. yeah The commentator, well on what while was watching the game on, the the commentator said, um the guy who scored, what's his name? Bellegarde? Bellegarde? Yeah, Bellegarde. I can't, don't know his name. Yeah, something like that. He said, He's only scored four goals in 70 matches for Wolves. I said he's going to go score.
00:48:27
Speaker
He's going to go score. minutes later, he went on and he scored. One of the most difficult chances he's probably ever tried and he goes and scores. That was a finish as well. I think... I think...
00:48:41
Speaker
i think the thing The thing that, just to emphasise what Chelsea are missing and what United are missing at times, is like it's that quality in the final third, man.
00:48:53
Speaker
And the problem is we can get from back to front... relatively okay. but um i think Chelsea do a little bit more consistently than United.
00:49:07
Speaker
But when we get into the final third, we do not have that quality to make the difference enough. So goals kill games against these guys.
00:49:19
Speaker
Look how much the game changed when that third goal winning. Yeah. Look at that. All the energy out Wolves just sapped out and now it became a game where you guys can just manage. Yeah, because their bro, their fans are protesting, bro. Do you know what's so funny about that protest, though, yeah? Some fans were coming in late because they were outside protesting and then some fans were leaving early to protest. They didn't want to stay and watch it. So there was point where the camera showed people leaving and people coming in at the same time it was it looked. They look chaotic, but they need to change.
00:49:55
Speaker
That happens when you have um different project managers. They have different project managers running a protest. with So let's talk about some hot topics in the world of Premier League football.
00:50:10
Speaker
Topic number one. Excellent finish, Mo Salah. Oof. that was a real That was a real uncle, African uncle interview.
00:50:25
Speaker
Just coming to just say whatever the heck I want I don't care what happens. that its He just came. So those of you who don't know, Salah came out after the Liverpool game when they drew three three with Leeds just this weekend gone. And he's basically said, you know, I don't know why I'm not starting. Nobody's spoken to me. My relationship with slot is is degraded. It's no longer strong. And I am made to look like I am the one that's at fault or or or to blame for the team's form.
00:51:03
Speaker
And I am the one and great, only Mo Salah.
00:51:09
Speaker
And I should be starting. i have enough credit in the bank. I should be starting. What do you think... um What's your opinion on that?
00:51:21
Speaker
So, this this is interesting for me, yeah? Because... I don't like sitting on the fence, but I hear it from Mo Salah's side in the sense of like, don't get me wrong.
00:51:32
Speaker
No player has a divine right to start every game, especially if you're playing bad because let's keep it up. He's been terrible this season. He's actually been horrible. All them goals they were scoring last season where the ball's luckily bouncing off his shin and then come dropping in front of him and then scoring, yeah? None of that's paying off now.
00:51:48
Speaker
None of that's working. Now you actually have to try and be a good footballer and he's struggling. So I'll leave that for now. But... um Just to add on that... He's just been bad. Just to add on that, I think people are being very disingenuous when it comes to Salah's performance. They have been absolutely horrid. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. As much people... think the media been quite nice about his performances. I think some people, from the ones I've listened to anyway, they're saying that he's been okay. No, I think he's been horrible.
00:52:22
Speaker
I think every time he gets the ball, he loses it, bruv. Like... do you know Do you know what the the reason why you we're struggling to see like harsh criticism of Salah about his performance? Because Salah is very much close to this on a normal day. The only difference is a goal and assist.
00:52:40
Speaker
That's really what it is. He's not this bad. Don't get me wrong. This is the worst Salah I've ever seen in my life. here even Probably even worse than when he was at Chelsea. year Listen, he's he can't do anything right. And he's and and he's lost like a yard of pace out of nowhere.
00:52:54
Speaker
But... he, the the issue that people are finding is like, now I actually have to criticise them for his footballing abilities and, they're starting to realise like, okay, he's not i'm scamming these one these goals and assists. And yeah it's really starting to shine a light on maybe he very limited as a football player. But the curse of paying players for the work that they've they've done in the past is kind of showing. Yeah, because Salah is not worth the 400k a week at the stage of the career that he is in now.
00:53:30
Speaker
But for what he's done for Liverpool, which he tried to emphasise, which where I come in and say, I agree with him. Listen, Salah is the embodiment of Liverpool in the Premier League era. People can say, Gerrard, cool. That's cool. Gerrard ain't got you two Premier League titles. Yeah, got to you.
00:53:48
Speaker
he sal That's on Salah's back. people I saw one reporter trying say, like, oh, Henderson was the reason why. Or people, now Liverpool fans are starting to say, oh, Oh, he didn't win anything until Virgil van Dijk and Alisson came in.
00:54:01
Speaker
Bro, he's got over 250 goals. Like, what are you talking about? Bro, we've spoken about this before. ah hate it when football fans... but when you When you don't like someone...
00:54:15
Speaker
You're now disregarding everything they've done or you're now saying, oh, he's not that good. He's not that good. You're chatting. You're chatting nonsense, man. Bro, them lot were trying to give him a Ballon d'Or for the last four seasons. They've been trying to give him Ballon d'Or for the last four seasons.
00:54:31
Speaker
They've been saying, he's the best play in the world. I would rather have Salah in my team than Mbappe. I would rather have Salah in team than Laminio Mbappe. But why can't we just be that what why can't we just be guided why can't we just Why can't we just be guided? Why can't we just be mellow? or just just Just be consistent. Because Liverpool are in a bad place and like it's is's really starting to get dark for their opinions on their actual players. And Salah is literally the embodiment of the idea of why loyalty is overrated in football.
00:55:02
Speaker
Loyalty is overrated. He's been at Liverpool, not obviously you like because he's been held hostage. I don't think Salah's really had any thoughts of leaving at any point in time like Madrid and all them kind of clubs. Because one thing, ain't seen no links. It doesn't look like any of them are interested. but at the same time, he's comfortable at Liverpool. When him, Mane and Firmino were doing up the three-man step, they were crashing on guys. He's calm. King Salah doing all this and that. like He's won them two Premier League titles. Bro, you he didn't win a league for 30 years, bro.
00:55:34
Speaker
Man came and gave you two and made you go tied with Manchester United on league titles, bro. and gave you a Champions League. All right, cool.
00:55:45
Speaker
He didn't play necessarily well throughout that whole campaign, but I'm pretty sure you can pick out key moments of where Salah's goals here and there contributed to them winning the Champions League. He's won the FA Cup. He's one won literally everything. And now now because he's speaking out, which I like when players do, speak out, bro.
00:56:03
Speaker
No one's going to back you more than you. No one's going to back you more than you. Don't get me wrong. It's mistimed because I think it's cowardly because my man's going off the AFCON. So he's basically saying, hey, listen, it's ain't on me, boy. When I come back, I expect my man to be sad.
00:56:17
Speaker
that's basically That's basically what he's essentially saying. He's like, listen, if you want me to stay... Get rid of my man. That's basically what he's saying. So is that where you stand? Do you think overall he has a right to express his opinion? Probably needs to time it well. So my my question to you is, is there really a right time though?
00:56:36
Speaker
Is there really a right time? there's And that's the thing. There's never a right time, especially in this country, because we're a very dust docile country. don't like people speaking up. We don't like people having too many opinions, too much um personality. Just follow the trend. Go to those interviews after the game. Yeah, it was a good game. We could have tried better. The lads are like, you know what mean? The gaffer, like blah, blah, blah. Just keep it straight and simple and keep it moving. That's it.
00:57:03
Speaker
Don't f throw slang in there. you throw slang in there, they'll call you mandam FC. They'll call you this. Just straight clean cut and then keep it stepping. When you come out and speak,
00:57:14
Speaker
you get the moment like Jamie Carragher. Wow. yeah We were speaking about before the point. I don't know. Can hear all of that in the background, by the way?
00:57:24
Speaker
Yeah, I can. You can. All right, cool. You take over from here. don't want ruin the audio too much. What do you think about the Carragher situation? So I'm going to be, i'm a bit biased regarding Carragher because I have a personal vendetta against my man um Jamie Carragher, I think, is... He knows his job. He's he's a pundit, but a nosy he knows what he needs to say to get the conversation going get a lot of interactions. and He's a performer. I think at the end of the day, a performer. Some things he knows what he's talking about, but I think he is a performer. It's his job to make it entertaining and and and get views. So...
00:58:14
Speaker
A lot of why i'm I'm a bit annoyed at him is just a lot of his comments around Chelsea and stuff. But it is it's to be expected. He's a Liverpool fan. But I think with him, it's the flipping and flopping that people don't like. um And, you know, we've seen him.
00:58:29
Speaker
I think he's always had an issue with Mo Salah. He's always had something to say about Mo Salah. And Salah said it himself. um But it's the lies, man. So the comment about... um He has never criticised Salah on his performance.
00:58:44
Speaker
the Where did you get that from? Just last week, he was saying Salah looks dead on his feet. Like, bro.
00:58:56
Speaker
And then is is his comments are... I feel like his comments are always... Not always, but I think his comments are personal. And sometimes they're not even football-based and they're based on a lot of guesswork and, oh, I think this is what he meant or I think this is what this person meant to say and or do.
00:59:17
Speaker
And it's those kind of things that I think football players have a lot of... um that you know they they really can't respect. it's the It's the ones where you you judge a man by his character um and you don't even know them based off a few actions on a football pitch. That's that's where that's where he loses he loses a lot of people. And and I think, obviously, Mo Salah has never forgotten it.
00:59:42
Speaker
um ah Jamie Carragher, man. It is what is. He's always going to be on TV. I think he he gets the conversation starting.
00:59:53
Speaker
I think...
00:59:56
Speaker
Liverpool fans have always been very defensive of their football club. You could see it in the Trent fiasco. um So if anybody if anybody comes around and ah you know affects that ecosystem or criticises that ecosystem or criticises the club, Liverpool fans really do band together and and and ride out.
01:00:16
Speaker
So i think i think it's a tough one. i think...
01:00:24
Speaker
We don't know what happened. It is the truth. There are things happening in the background and we don't know. Based off Salah's words, it seems like something that's been going on for a while.
01:00:35
Speaker
And he said, someone at this club doesn't want me here. So he's he's seen something or heard something that has, you know, got obviously got him riled up. And then now he's seen that he's on the bench for three games in a row. I don't agree.
01:00:49
Speaker
I think he needed to be more calculated with his words. I think a lot of his words were emotional and it doesn't put him in a good light. So things such as, I've got credit in the bank.
01:01:03
Speaker
Football really should be based off me you know what you do now, to let's be honest. yeah So I think he's he's got it wrong there. And other comments like,
01:01:15
Speaker
but But to be to be fair, to be who sorry, like, have you got it wrong there? Because don't get me wrong, like, we we say this all the time as well, like, me and you, whenever we speak about football, it's like, these men aren't robots, bro. Like, um I've done what I've done for the club in the sense of like the effort and commitment that I've put in. He's rarely ever injured. You rarely hear any stories about him. you really like And he's just turning up more times than not to bail out Liverpool, yeah? And then you've come and signed all these men and all of them are rubbish, right?
01:01:47
Speaker
but I'm the one who's getting three games in the row. I think what's happening, I think, wait, hold on, sorry. I think what's happening is it's not even the benching.
01:01:58
Speaker
I'm pretty sure Onisot's not even saying anything to him. My mind's like, bro, this is, it's different. Don't get me wrong. I do think, I saw something, um I don't even know who Coach at Kansas. He said this thing and I agree him. He was like, um listen, superstars need to be treated differently.
01:02:15
Speaker
Because they ah they move the needle at your club. If Salah still has the same amount of pull that he had once upon a time at Liverpool, a lot of the other players agree with him.
01:02:25
Speaker
A lot of the other players aren't rating these new signings the same way. So when you see the man on the pitch um in the next game and the half-arsing it, yeah, don't be surprised if that's not a, nah, bro, Salah's our guy, bro. You can't just dump man and the club's like moving mad and all this kind of stuff because, bro,
01:02:44
Speaker
Canate has been the worst player for Liverpool this season. He will play every game. They also don't have another option. Van Dijk, they have Joe Gomez. Joe Gomez always gets injured and he's not really reliable. so go get me Don't get me wrong. They have attackers. They have attackers.
01:03:02
Speaker
But did we not see Klopp playing Fabinho and Henderson centre-backs? Yeah. this like um like Obviously, that's not the best use of it, but... um Bro, listen, if I'm Salah, yeah, I'm walking into that office, I'm saying, are you done, bruv? Like, me and you, 1v1, let's do it right now because, i like do you not know where you are?
01:03:26
Speaker
I'm Liverpool. Me, right now. I'm Liverpool. Yeah, i think I think... You won that league title off the back of me. The only reason why you're still in this job right now is because of what I was jogging last season. And you're benching me for three games so you can play Florian Vert.
01:03:45
Speaker
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. That family made it to an hour and almost... Let me just nod that down. You want to play Florian Verts and you want to play, you're playing Sabozla right back.
01:04:04
Speaker
you're playing you You're playing Cody Gakpo for 90 minutes. You're playing, bro, like we had something going with Eketike being up front. Cool, don't get me wrong. Salah might rate Isak as a footballer. But you're not better at than my man right now. Sorry, go to the bench. A real manager wouldn't bench them time ago.
01:04:22
Speaker
But no, you're still starting, my man. The club obviously are looking for a new face of the club. They're looking for guys to be the new generation of Liverpool, isn't it? That's probably what they were hoping for, Florian Verts. And it killed me that his goal... got Senegal on goal after they got the ball stand.
01:04:41
Speaker
I thought they actually scored. Bro, that's drugs to me, bro. I need that. Inject that, bro. That's that's me. But like they're trying to obviously move into a different era. And it's so funny how Liverpool like to walk around, especially their fans, like, oh, such a classy club. No.
01:04:58
Speaker
And then when things go against them, you see them with the Trent thing, you see them with the Sterling thing, you see with the Suarez thing. Now you're seeing with... Now you're getting a couple of losses and everyone's crashing out. Now everyone's saying, second manager! a thought we were across I thought you lot were a classy club and you don't you don't stoop to those levels. No, you do because you're football fans. You're not better than no one else. And now you just have to be in the mud with the rest of us, bro. Welcome. Welcome. There's enough room for everyone.
01:05:25
Speaker
ah you So you're saying you believe that... You did say that he should have handled it and gone to the manager direct. Is that is that what you're saying? if i'm sin I'm saying like...
01:05:41
Speaker
i I don't begrudge Salah for doing what he did in it because he didn't even come on in that game. And he's probably had the inkling... No, he's probably had the inkling that, like...
01:05:53
Speaker
This guy's moving funny with me. You know when you could tell, like, you know in school you could tell a teacher don't like you, you could tell, like, someone you're working with don't like you. He could smell something. Yeah. So look at small-satting fish you're going on.
01:06:05
Speaker
he There's no messages. There's no hugs. No handshakes anymore. Yeah, exactly. He's speaking good morning to you. He sees you in the um canteen. He's even saying good morning. He's not even hailing you up like little head nod. He's just like, acting like you're not there. And then man's not playing the next game here.
01:06:20
Speaker
He's probably saying, right, cool, I've seen something. And he said to himself, if I do not get on this pitch today, watch. I'm going to watch. I'm going AFCON. You deal with this mess, cool. And obviously the reports come out now about he's not even going to be in the match they scored for the Brighton game. He's probably not going to be in the match they scored for the... No, not Bayern's last game before Afcon, the next game. I don't know what they're going to play next. The next two games, it's not going to be... He might as well score Afcon now.
01:06:50
Speaker
Might as well. He might as well score. Might as well. Because if I'm Salah, I'm saying, all right, they've obviously shown they don't want me in the club. I'm going to go to Egypt and I'm going to get ready for this, well, Afghans in Morocco this year. I'm going to go Morocco and I'm going mentally prepare for that because the club obviously don't want me around. Peace. Yeah, the fans are going oh, how can you do that? Blah, blah, blah. I'm saying, bro, I'm not in any matchday scores. What do you want me to do? Like...
01:07:16
Speaker
So my... my Yeah, ah like I've said, to be fair, actually, one thing you said did really resonate with me and it is that superstars have to be treated different.
01:07:28
Speaker
because And to be a good manager, you need to manage egos. So I assume i assume Liverpool being relatively... Hopefully they're not a very stupid club. I assume they've taken this decision to drop him knowing...
01:07:46
Speaker
there Not necessarily that he'd do that interview, but knowing that this may lead to Salah leaving. So we'll see we'll see ah where that takes us. We'll see you know if there's any more comments from Salah or the club. um But long may their trials and tribulations continue.
01:08:07
Speaker
In Jesus' name we pray. Bro, I'm so full from all the Liverpool and the club. I'm so happy right now bro my club is still rubbish here and the thing I'm saying I'm happy we're still in the mix with Liverpool if they are there's rumours of them going in for Semenyo in Chan if they go at Semenyo and there's not Gap Po on that side hey listen like you said we were saying earlier a couple wins here and there next we know you're top four and everyone's ah Well, it was fun while it lasted, didn't it? but Yeah. So, yeah, I think we've covered most of the key key points.
01:08:45
Speaker
that There was another thing. This is just going back to the Kobi Menu discussion that we're having a little bit earlier on. Paul Scholes and Nicky Bart on their podcast, they had a little discussion about Kobi Menu and they were saying, Paul Scholes was essentially saying, like, listen, look.
01:09:00
Speaker
If I had Kobe's number, and I swapped him directly, and he told me, like, oh, Chelsea are interested in me, I'll tell him, go. Stay here. Like, this is, like, and... I feel like the version of... I feel like the version of Scholes that I get on that podcast compared to the overlap is a bit different, bro. It's too different, isn't it? Too different. He's starting to see the trend of, like, I think he's starting to see the trend of honest opinions rather than trying to fit in with this United rhetoric. i think the
01:09:32
Speaker
I think he's off the payroll Manchester United at this point. And he's just talking honestly about what he's actually seeing and he's not being like pumped money. Because da thatop that's exactly what I've been saying the last couple of weeks. It's like, Kobi Maneu just needs to leave.
Kobi Mainu's Situation and Comparisons
01:09:49
Speaker
Like, let's keep her a buck. People aren't rating him. Obviously, Kobi Maneu, he hasn't got a long history Manchester United, but... I'm pretty sure scoring the winning goal in the FA Cup means something. I'm pretty sure he's had scoring the winning goal against Liverpool, the Lyon game, like the Wolves goal. Like he's had very big moments for Manchester United. He's only 20.
01:10:08
Speaker
For the way the club to be treating you the way it is, people are telling him, oh, fight for your place, fight for your place. Look at what they're doing to Mo Salah and Liverpool. You think it's worth you staying here and trying to earn the respect of these people who are already trying to throw you under the bus?
01:10:24
Speaker
Get out of here while you can, man. Get out here while you can, bro. Don't look back. go Leave the club. Don't look back. Yeah, they're going to boo you at Old Trafford every time you play there. But listen, man, even even Chelsea, they're a bit of a mess. Sorry. the not You don't know what's going on. But Kobe might be one of those pieces that might actually be a fixture in your team. I don't know where fits.
01:10:50
Speaker
Because Enzo's not getting biched. Hey, hey, hey. Can I say those? yo Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo. I've said it to you already. Keep Kobe Mainu. Stop trying to sell man to me as if it's a Turkish market.
01:11:03
Speaker
Stop trying to sell man. I don't want to sell him to you. I just know what's going to happen. I don't want Kobe Mainu at my club. I told you I need six-foot redacted man running in the middle of my midfield. Okay?
01:11:18
Speaker
That's what I want. Jump, win headers, barge man. That's what I need. Okay? I'm tired of these. I'm tired of these small, small technical players. I don't need it. I don't need it. I don't need it. Oh, Kobe's like Nah, he ain't strong enough. Nah, nah. I need it. Let me check. If you men are buying Garnacho, you're going to buy Kobe Manu if he's a man. Yeah. won Napoli won him as well. I speak about Kobe Mane all the time, bro. We're talking about Conor Gallagher replacing him, bro.
01:11:52
Speaker
Conor Gallagher, bro.
Evaluating Tosin Adarabioyo at Chelsea
01:11:54
Speaker
I've ripped my out. I've ripped my hair out, bro. I can't have Conor Gallagher, man. No, but you don't get it, bro. A player like Conor Gallagher, yeah? No, let's move on, man. Let's move on. Let's move on. Let me go into this conversation, man. What's your... What's the code, man? Don't blame the referee.
01:12:13
Speaker
Yeah. Tossin, I do a bio. You know what's so funny? I knew you were going to say tossin'. It had nothing to do with the referee. just knew you were going to say tossin'.
01:12:27
Speaker
Tossin'. Yeah? The way... you know when you've messed up, yeah? And then you try and act so angry like... Don't give a I know he's probably frustrated, but...
01:12:41
Speaker
The anger Manu is showing after he made that silly mistake and then, you know, basically passed it into our own net, yeah. ah Tossin.
01:12:53
Speaker
ever feel bad because the the stick this guy has got over the last week has been to tough. Tough. But that guy cannot play for Chelsea Football Club again. I'm sorry.
01:13:03
Speaker
That is enough. He's a big trouble. That enough. It's funny because he's supposed to be one of the senior players at your team, bro. He's one of the older ones, isn't he? quiet i at the end of the day though yeah at the end of the day it's talent though man talent like experience is good in terms of understanding the game understanding what you should do in pressure moments handling pressure moments things things like that but at the end of the day we have to that the talent has to be there that's the that's the minimum requirement so I'm sorry he doesn't hit the minimum requirement even if he is experienced or he's he's telling the teams the right thing and what to do and he's he's leading people and he's
01:13:40
Speaker
if he's crap every time he gets the ball or if he's crapping 1v1 rules what does that matter what does the all the experience matter guys so I think he stopped talking to me about experience bruv so Tosin I've seen that you might even be pledging your allegiance to Nigeria to yeah right wait the chuckle brothers that we have back there Calvin Bastien Tosin oh oh my god Oh my God. Don't let that happen, bro. Don't let that ever happen, bro. You got Afcon as well. He probably won't be in that squad, but the yeah, chill out. Chill out with that one. What's your don't play to blame the ref moment?
Controversial Refereeing in Wolves vs. Man United
01:14:22
Speaker
So my one's a bit funny because I'm actually blaming the ref. I'm not even... It's not even... He's breaking the rules. No, it's not even the don't blame the ref. It's just... He's breaking the rules. Because...
01:14:34
Speaker
i don't I don't understand the the decision. i don't know if you watched the wools game to the um the United Wolves game today. The first half. Was that a red card? I mean, not a red card. Was that a handball?
01:14:46
Speaker
No, because I think it was too high. To me, no, but he moved his arm towards the ball. It's still your arm. I get it. They don't like to give that if it just strikes your arm. But he literally moved his he made his body bigger up by moving his towards the ball and hitting him on arm.
01:15:01
Speaker
remember Remember, the ball's got to be lower than the length of the sleeve. That's stupid because you know what? They're going to change that next year. It's very stupid. It is very stupid. And then we got a penalty anyway for a similar thing. But obviously, it was lower down on the arm. And then I'm just like, bro, the consistencies within this game are stupid. Obviously, didn't affect the overall result. Wolves are rubbish.
01:15:25
Speaker
Bruno gets his... traditional GA, whatever, goal in assists, whoever cares. That assist will mount though. That assist will mount. That's top quality. That's why he should be in the 10. That's top quality. Of course he should be in the 10. I don't know why... um yeah But anyway, they even, bro, yeah, that's my, I guess, I don't know if I'm blaming the ref. You broke the rules, bro. That's a yellow card. That's a yellow card too.
01:15:55
Speaker
All right, cool, cool, cool. Whatever, I'll take it, I'll take it yellow. But Castromero and Bruno Pivot, bro, both of them were doing crazy things today, bro. I don't want to
Premier League Standings and Season Speculations
01:16:04
Speaker
see that. I don't want see that, bro. They're moving mad. Their lucky wolves are just dead. It is what it is.
01:16:16
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, um I will say, obviously, mia I don't blame the refs all over the gaff, but I will say we're sixth now, tied on points with Chelsea.
01:16:30
Speaker
i don't know I don't know if you think you're having a good season or I think I'm having a good season. Even when we're both in the mix for the top four, which we both had the ambitions of our clubs being in.
01:16:43
Speaker
think we're going to be shooting it out. I don't think anyone knows where this league's going to go, Bev. We've got to wait until March and see what's happening. I think 10 more games from now, we'll see. The points will start to spread out a bit more. The top...
01:17:01
Speaker
two or three will start to disappear. i don't Do you know why look you know you know why I disagree? you know why disagree? Yeah, maybe the top two, but like look at last year. Chelsea could have finished anywhere between fourth and seventh on the last day of the Premier League.
01:17:19
Speaker
Can you imagine? Last day of the Premier League, we could have finished 7th or 4th. So I think i i just think this is the state the league now. Super tight. But on that note, people, thank you for joining in.
01:17:32
Speaker
Thank for listening. um ah To be fair, I think that episode was more enjoyable than I realised it was going to be. um so i don't I don't know why I was crashing up, bro. We just won 4-1 and I'm crashing Don't make any sense. I said I'm not going to vent and I start crashing up.
01:17:49
Speaker
so Is it everyday negativity,
Closing Remarks and Listener Engagement
01:17:53
Speaker
Dom? Why? is broad bro. I hate watching this team so much, bro. I hate it. I hate it. I hate so much.
01:18:01
Speaker
And the worst thing about it is I know it's not going to end. But anyway... who Yeah, let's end it there before I start doing my therapy session. Start telling people, it started when i was five years old.
01:18:15
Speaker
listen Listen to us on Spotify. Listen to us on Apple Music. um Don't cry. Don't beg. And toss in. Just take some paracetamol and take it easy. All right. Nice one, guys. Peace.
01:18:32
Speaker
Peace.
01:19:00
Speaker
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