Introduction and Episode Overview
00:00:38
Speaker
Yo, don't cry, don't beg. Welcome to another episode of the Don't Blame the Ref podcast. Second episode on video, so if you're enjoying that, make sure you like, share and subscribe.
00:00:49
Speaker
Hype the video as well. I know that's a new thing on YouTube, so just trying to tickle the boxes. But yeah, you got in the red corner, you've got me, Dom. And in the blue corner, you've got me, E-Man.
00:01:01
Speaker
This time I've got proper background, looking looking nice, looking good. Yeah, only in your background because you won, bro. Because you beat me. I can whip the club properly.
00:01:15
Speaker
Yeah, I hear that. But um yeah, so it's been a while. We had a midweek game, but we'll give it to you a bit later on. But, you know, still have to give the people what they want.
Manchester United's Recent Performance
00:01:28
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So there's been a lot more games for Chelsea, I think.
00:01:31
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For Man United, I think we've got two games in like six weeks or something. Wow. That's it. We have any FA Cup. We have no Champions League, no Europa League, nothing. It's literally playing a game.
00:01:45
Speaker
Then we've got like, after this next game, I think there's an international break coming up at some point as well. Okay. but It's mad, it's mad, it's mad. That might even work.
00:01:57
Speaker
That might not work in your favour. That might be bad. like you don't You don't get into a rhythm. The players get a bit rusty. this this This might not be good for you, man. Based on the performance against Newcastle, maybe we need a break. You can't do short term.
00:02:15
Speaker
I think that's the best place to start, seeing as we have the least amount of games. um whether Where do i even start with this? I think it's... The theme is more, this was coming.
00:02:32
Speaker
this this This performance, this result was coming. It didn't have to be against 10 men, but we were we were due for a loss. So what's it what did you see in the last few games that tells you this was coming?
00:02:47
Speaker
We have a tendency to start slow. That's one of the main things. It was even a feature on the Amarim as well. like For some reason, the start of the games, we would slowly let teams come on to us a bit too much. And then we're we're trying to...
00:03:06
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ease our way into games. we're coasting at the start of the game. And I think I mentioned this on a couple of pods earlier. We have no excuse to coast because we've got one game a week. Our players should be fresher than everyone else.
00:03:20
Speaker
If anything, we should be the teams putting the... impetus onto them. That's the maddest That's the maddest thing. You think, oh, these men have had bare rest, a week's trading. Every week have a week's trading. You guys should be prepped. I'm expecting you guys to go gung-ho, full speed, and just crash it on guys. But yeah, I just don't get what's going on.
00:03:44
Speaker
um this is This is a similar thing that happened in terms of the last bad result we got. was the West Ham game. And I remember that was a short turnaround as well, like a couple of days in between
Lineup and Tactical Critique
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the last switch. It happens again against Newcastle, couple of days, and then now the performances fall off a cliff. Then it's actually not good enough because Manchester United's history, bro, we're in Champions League, we're in Europa League, we're later stages in the League Cup, FA Cup. So a lot of these players have played...
00:04:16
Speaker
at that tempo within the season. So you can't excuse it. It's just poor. And there's a lot of things with how we've been playing that I think also Carrick hasn't been addressing.
00:04:30
Speaker
There's a few people who've been underperforming, hasn't really tried to make adjustments and change things around. It's like the results are working out. So what's the point of changing it?
00:04:41
Speaker
until the results don't work out. And then now you're sitting there scrambling with your team to try and find solutions. But yeah, it's just... so is So if we just take it back a second, let's look at the lineup. We've got um Newcastle in their usual 4-3-3 shape, midfield three of Tonali, Joe Linton and Ramsey to start with, missing Bruno Gomez and in the front three of Alanga, Gordon and Barnes.
00:05:08
Speaker
They're without their star striker, but that's they've been doing that in a lot of big games. um I don't think the manager trusts the new guy. What's his name? Votemada.
00:05:20
Speaker
Votemada. And then United start with Cesc. Good to see him starting to get, you know, back-to-back starts. So that's good for him. Cunha on the left, Bruno Fernandes, Mbremo on the right. Midfield two of Maino and Casemiro.
00:05:36
Speaker
ah Luke Shaw, Maguire, Jorah and Majuawi. So no Diego Dallor today. Wow, no one for you to scapegoat.
00:05:50
Speaker
That's a good line-up. In terms of all the people that you could complain about, that is the most perfect line-up you can get. I can't complain. though Obviously, there's people that are... Well, it's nitpicky if I'm like, I wish Martinez was free, but at the end of the bro, we got...
00:06:10
Speaker
other players for that reason. We got Lenny Euro, we spent big money on him. Oh, we've been playing the last couple of games, expecting a good performance. Masurari, people, United fans have been saying how much of, it's such good business that we got in for so cheap.
00:06:29
Speaker
So, your time to step in now, like, you know what mean? That load's been on down for me for a long time. Yeah, sure, sure. that You actually are a good signing and To be fair, i don't think he was bad.
00:06:43
Speaker
For the most part, I think he was okay. Nothing special. But I'm not looking for that from my right back, to be fair. As long as I don't notice you too, too much, I'm not going to be too mad.
00:06:54
Speaker
It's more to do with what are we doing When we have the ball. With our attacking players. If our attacking players are even touching it. Because. Cisco. He was not in that game at all. But.
00:07:06
Speaker
That's a byproduct of. Newcastle. Were punching us. Up. They were. Oh. Bro. That first half here. They were. They had us in the corner. They were just rushing us. They were just rushing us. Fugball. Fugball, yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:07:22
Speaker
And they didn't even have Bruno. They didn't have Bruno. It's just fugball. Ramsey, Tonali and Joelinton. Joelinton was balling today. um Not today. balling the other day. He was just running through our team. say Was he he actually balling? Because that guy, all he does is whack people on the head. and No, the I think this game was actually good. I'm not going to. There was a lot of times he picked up the ball, carried it well.
00:07:52
Speaker
Literally a one-man army attack for a lot of the time for Newcastle, but For us, too too many passengers in our team. right I can pick out every single player within our team and just say it's just not good enough. The same things with Kobe Manu that I've mentioned before in terms of... Sometimes he keeps a little bit too safe. In this type of game, when you're coming up against the thugs, you need the guys who are like...
00:08:22
Speaker
the composed people on the ball to ask for it more, show for it more. When you're getting pressed, when they're trying to do the physical thing, you're doing the technical thing to counteract what they're doing. We can't we can't match them physically.
00:08:32
Speaker
This team, we can't. It's impossible. They will punch us up all the time. I always feel like when we go to say St. James's Park, we try and play this like slow, controlled tempo, quiet in the crowd sort of tactic.
00:08:48
Speaker
But I personally think it's got to be the opposite. aye Don't get me wrong, there are definitely moments where you should slow it down. So maybe, know, they've just had a chance and, you know, you want to take the sting out the game. Those stuff I get. But in general possession, when you win it in transition, you should be back at attacking them. You should go and attack them and you put them on the back foot. Because if you have them near their box, now you can start controlling it in their box.
00:09:17
Speaker
And we don't do that enough. and i And I don't think you guys did that enough. Nah, it felt like they could just attack us and there were no consequences for it. you But Brian and Brembo, I need a sound effect for that one. I need i need the... but so question so question So question on him, yeah.
00:09:42
Speaker
I don't think he's a winger. What do you think he is? don't think he's a striker. I don't think he's a winger. You think he's just one of those wide forwards sort of thing? Yeah.
00:09:53
Speaker
So if you're going to play him like a touchline winger, I just don't see the point. And I don't like, it was Mavs Wari overlapping enough? Is that his game? Like, for me, it's more, he's an inside forward, like you said. He's a support striker. He's a guy on the end of moves.
00:10:11
Speaker
um You know, that's basically what he was doing at Redford. And, like obviously you guys playing him up top i think was a was a smart move from the man from the manager because for whatever reason he thought sheska wasn't ready um so it it made sense and i'll be i think he'd done a decent job if he definitely scored more goals up top than he did than he does out wide in my opinion um you know so i just think like where do you go from here because you've got like I think I said it incorrectly the other day i think I said, oh, you didn't shot for your money. You did shot for Amorin.
00:10:48
Speaker
You've got two inside forwards to play the 3-4-3. And they're not out-and-out wingers. And I feel like in in these sort of games, both of them, Kunja and Mbremu, I think it looks awkward.
00:11:00
Speaker
Yeah. ah Would you rejig in the summer? Because, like you mentioned, Mbremu's not a touchdown winger. He can't really beat his man 1v1. He's more of like, I'm in the half space. I'll cross it in, like create opportunities that way. He's not really a creative
Controversies and Tactical Adjustments
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passer either. You don't really see him do the reverse passes, sliding balls through. that He doesn't do that. He's he's a move finisher. And at best, he's a good crosser. That's ah that's about it.
00:11:31
Speaker
But his general play isn't good enough. And then same thing with Konya as well. he wants all the touches in the world. He wants to, don't get me wrong, I respect that he wants to take responsibility, but with him doing the over, playing slows down the game too much. And at the end day, if you're going to take an extra five touches just to lay it off to the guy next to you, what's the point?
00:11:53
Speaker
what What's the point? There's no point. It's different if you're dribbling to get past people or like you're taking more touches to draw more players towards you and then you play like a amazing pass to open up. No, it's just literally I just want more touches. So I'm come central, vacate the left-hand side and leave it to Luke Shaw who can't run anymore. And then but is we don't we don't have enough avenues of attack. I think that's been...
00:12:19
Speaker
The theme of Carrick's tenure is we've got Sesco in the box. We need to figure out way of overlapping, underlapping with our fullbacks to create crossing opportunities and just stick the ball in the box.
00:12:34
Speaker
And hopefully Sesco can get on the end of That's what you're hoping for. Do you know where I'd go with it? I'd go...
00:12:45
Speaker
I'd go Sesco dropping in, Sesco drops in one of them makes a run in behind. Whichever side has the space, Mbremo or Cunha, whether it's a run straight in behind on the wing or run to cut in in the space in behind Sesco that he vacates by dropping in. So if one of the centre back pulls out, can one of those wingers you know get into the space that Sesco can create and just play off him?
00:13:11
Speaker
The funny thing is... Boom, pinging behind. and Just keep doing that. Eff it. Just keep doing that. the The funny thing is from the small clips that saw of Seshko, that's what used to do at Leipzig. He was the one that dropped in was linking that play. And I think it's... Was it Openda?
00:13:31
Speaker
Yeah. Or someone else. He was like two men up top. Yeah, yeah, he's the one. He would drop and be the linking up playing, doing those kind of things and having the runners further on. So maybe it's something we need to adopt because that's what he's used to. But...
00:13:45
Speaker
It's going to take a bit more rejigging, but Carrick doesn't have the time. He doesn't have the luxury to work this stuff out. It just feels like he's putting out a squad and just hoping for the best at this point.
00:13:58
Speaker
um If you are, if he does want to do the... um So, to be fair, if if we mention a few key events that happened in the game, obviously the red card with Jacob Ramsey. I think that was the first thing that actually happened.
00:14:14
Speaker
um The first yellow was actually something stupid. I think it was Kunja running, that dribbling with the ball in R on half, and he just pulled him back with no reason.
00:14:25
Speaker
Stupid yellow. There was no danger. There was nothing happening. And then his red card, i don't think that's a red card. I don't think that's a red card. I don't think he dived. I don't think he dived to looking for the penalty. There was contact.
00:14:42
Speaker
He did go down. But it's not like he liked, oh, ref, ref. It wasn't that. He went down. And by the time he stood up on his feet, was already getting a second yellow. He was like, bro, I wasn't even looking for that.
00:14:55
Speaker
It's harsh. It is harsh. ah because I'm not going to lie on behalf of my team. and It harsh. It's even more frustrating because it seems like the refs pick and choose when you know when they want to you know start booking for diving because I've seen some really bad dives and they decided to do nothing. so um But that works in United's favour and you you guys... That's what you hoped. That's what you hoped. It was going to work in our favour. We've had a lot of red cards recently go go our way so I'm thinking, okay, cool, I can relax. We're going to get back into the game and then we're going to take the three points and we're just going to just a snatch and grab, get back to OT and keep moving.
00:15:37
Speaker
But then even after that, i don't think he dominated possession that much. Literally straight away, Bruno gave away a pen. Straight after that happened, Bruno gave away a pen.
00:15:52
Speaker
And Anthony Gordon running through and he ran in between, was running from the left-hand side, ran in between Bruno and Masuari. Bruno just clipped him. And Bruno was acting like, what? Bro, you made contact with him. It's a pen. Like, it' it's just a pen. You made a mistake. And from that point onwards, Bruno's head was gone.
00:16:14
Speaker
His head was gone. The rest of the game, he was not there. he was not there. He was just doing dumb stuff. like And you know when when Bruno makes a mistake here that leads to um opposition goal, yeah whether it's giving away a penny or giving the ball away stupidly, he tries to get it back. like He tries to do something to like get it back. but then you just get iron too hard Trying too hard. Yeah, he argues with the ref every decision. can see his head's kettle. Someone needs to put him aside and say, bro, come on. Calm down. Calm down. We're still in the game. Yeah, you've made a mistake. Cool. We all make mistakes. Let's just keep it going. But they scored their goal with a penalty. And then it was Anthony Gordon who scored the penalty. And then don't even remember when we scored our... Who scored our goal? I can't even remember. Oh, it was...
00:17:09
Speaker
Was it a corner or something? It was a set piece Casamero scored. Oh, yeah, that. Yeah. Just before half-time. And then we're like, okay, cool. one one Going into second half.
00:17:22
Speaker
Great. We can reset. Come the second half. They got 10 men. All we have to do is just be composed. Use the ball smart. Stretch the pitch. Make it as wide as possible. And just put as many crosses into the box and then we'll be able to get better of them. But...
00:17:38
Speaker
Bro, listen, that second half, to stop the first 15 to 20 minutes of that second half is like, so the that's the worst period of football under Carrick. That little section there, that's the worst period under Carrick.
00:17:57
Speaker
And it seems like the worst performances seem to be coming more and more. I feel like I've said that, like the last three games, like, oh, that was our worst performance. This is our worst performance. but its but say And it just keeps it keeps happening. But this one that was particularly bad because they had 10 men. They 10 men.
00:18:14
Speaker
So they so so isn it isn't that a shocking indictment on the manager that what seems like a nice, quick, fast-paced entry into the squad, very little time to train,
00:18:29
Speaker
um and the team seem to respond well to the new manager bounce, but then it seems like the more time they get with them, the the worse they seem to be getting.
00:18:44
Speaker
but I don't know. i don't know if it's that or the players are becoming complacent. Now that they've shown that they can win, they're kind of like, ah, it's a formality and I will go walk into these games and now we can win because they're not playing that formation we playing before. and this But,
00:19:01
Speaker
do These players need to wake up. They actually just need to wake up. Guys, well no we're not going to walk this qualification into the Champions League. It's tight at the top, bro. Yeah. Even like... We had a ah to create a gap again because you two were playing each other and... Yeah. still Just didn't take it. and Yeah. Yeah.
00:19:23
Speaker
I haven't heard those Arabic commentators go, bunno Bruno, Bruno, Menuh, Menuh, Casemiro. I ain't seen that again. It's the first two games. We ain't seen that.
00:19:36
Speaker
So now everyone's referring back to type and we're seeing what this team is actually about. And then it's easier to notice what improvements need to be made. The fact that we don't have two athletic fullbacks is a big hindrance on us creating opportunities in the final third. we They can't get up and down. They're not getting up and down.
00:19:59
Speaker
Luke Shaw is just refusing to overlap. But then at the same time, because Kunya's going over there, he's going over there. Luke Shaw has the whole left-hand side to himself. And it's like, this isn't the 18-year-old Luke Shaw. This is... I don't even know how old my man is. This is the cheeseburger Luke Shaw version. like that like He can't run like that.
00:20:22
Speaker
The only way that that would even remotely work if it if if it's someone like Dobu. That's the only way that would even remotely kind of work. Because at least he can get up and down. But yeah...
00:20:33
Speaker
but then But then the manager's got to adjust, no? He's got to start. maybe Maybe he starts doing rotations with with with Bruno and Mainu. Just getting them man attacking and doing overlaps, underlaps. did it And then just ask Luke Shaw and Masuai to sit, man. Do you know what mean? Get it cracking in a different way and get those overlaps.
00:20:53
Speaker
Put Mbwemo on the left, Ahmad on the right, take off Konya. For some reason, Konya can't get subbed anymore. It's impossible. but um Because he he works hard and he's 6'2". Just mix it up. do different Just do different things. like you You're at the point where, I say all the time, this is a free hit.
00:21:13
Speaker
just Just try stuff. Try stuff. um I don't think any United fans are going to be like, why did he take off this person? Bro, even when Zerzi came on and played midfield,
00:21:26
Speaker
um it was he came on for Kobe Manu and he was playing midfield. Bro, I'm thinking, why aren't you just getting in the box? Just get in the box, bro. You're 6-4-4, let's go 6-4-5, just get in the box and just cross the ball. like it what going Don't get me wrong, Newcastle, Dan Byrne, them and Natul, it doesn't matter.
00:21:47
Speaker
Good enough deliveries will unsettle them, but we're just not doing the basic stuff. And Carrick's just going to have to figure it He's going to have to come up with... It doesn't even have to be a creative solution. just has to be a different one.
00:21:59
Speaker
Different to whatever he's doing. Different approaches. Just something else. And then, obviously, um I think... Did someone get injured as to why Malassia came on?
00:22:11
Speaker
Can't remember. Bro, it's been a couple of days since since that game. Malassia ends up coming on for his first game in ages ages but yeah then I think it with Bruno who gives the ball away um the ball's just played up to what is this guy's name? or Osula Osula I was going to say Osasuna but that's a football team but played up to Osula and then Milassio just span around bro if you see
00:22:51
Speaker
Like a Beyblade. He didn't block him. he He goes on the right-hand side. He cuts him. Last year, just ran the opposite direction.
00:23:02
Speaker
Yeah, I think he thinks he's going line or something, but yeah. Either way, he did it looked like he did it. It's like... He half committed and he was like, ah, McCool was being beat because I think it was Maguire behind him. So he was like, ah, Maguire will deal with it.
00:23:19
Speaker
No, bro. But you know what it is? It's that complacency when you've got a man extra you're thinking, ah, I'll be all right, man. He's not going to actually she score that. And then he just whips it.
00:23:30
Speaker
What a whip. What a whip. We could have walked away with one point. I would have taken the one point based on the performance that we were doing. Yeah, it's 10 men. But bro, the way Tonali and Joe Linton were just running through us, yeah.
00:23:45
Speaker
Give me the point and I'll go home, bro. Give me the point and I'll go home. At that point, the Chelsea game was finished and I even forgot you United were on.
00:23:56
Speaker
So i was like, oh wow, United are on. They've got like five minutes, 10 minutes left. As soon as I turned it on, Osula scored. I was like, o yeah, boy. boy. Anyway, there's not really much more to say about that game other than Carrick just needs to find solutions. and yeah guys well We're still there. still debt store it is it Where does Carrick go from here?
00:24:23
Speaker
Who you got next? ah We have got but um afir a Villa. you know Yeah, we got villailla Villa. who That's a six-pointer. That's what I'm saying. Villa just lost you guys as well. They can't lose to us as well.
00:24:40
Speaker
that man who yeah what That's to proper kick them in the teeth. Who's at home? We are. We're We're home. wow It's a good opportunity because they're not then, bro. Like, as I'm going to talk a lot of stuff about Chelsea and saying how well we played, but their man were not good.
00:24:58
Speaker
They haven't been good for ages. And I'll be honest, I think all you guys need to do is play with tempo. Play with tempo. Don't worry about mistakes. Play with speed, tempo. Counter them quickly. they On the counter, they are poor.
00:25:13
Speaker
And you guys will be fine. But Carrick has got a fix.
Chelsea vs Aston Villa Analysis
00:25:18
Speaker
Get that energy back into the team. Get get them get them moving with speed, passing with speed again, because it's looking very, very, very dry at the moment.
00:25:28
Speaker
Yeah. And speaking of um Aston Villa, I think it's a good time to move to your game. Aston Villa versus Chelsea. Yeah. At... What is that stadium even called, bro? can't even remember. Villa v park v Park? Villa Park, yeah. Villa Park. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:25:48
Speaker
Yeah, so... This is a six-pointer in the sense of the Champions League race. did you You guys were kind of slipping away. You actually needed this win. ah, we needed this at some point. You needed this win big time. You've done more than win. You battered them.
00:26:06
Speaker
You absolutely battered them. So, yeah. So. that's What did you think of the game? So, was what was I doing? I was taking care of my son and then put him to bed and rushing downstairs.
00:26:20
Speaker
But, you know, something in my heart just told me, I know we're losing already. I genuinely hadn't seen the score. I genuinely hadn't seen the score. i was like, God, please make sure these guys aren't losing.
00:26:32
Speaker
I feel like they're losing. I feel like they're losing. When I saw were one-hilled down already, I said, no. These guys want to kill me.
00:26:42
Speaker
these guys look gro he be yeah Bro, I thought these guys want to kill me. And i'm um I'm on my, like, silent rage thing because I ain't got the energy to allow these guys to be, like, you know, making me crash out and go mad.
00:27:03
Speaker
So on the silent rage thing. But that at that point, yeah... I just went, oh! bad just I just lost it. I just lost it. Because what are you doing? Two minutes in. The African uncle just kicked in and you're wearing a Nigerian. I just said, oh my needs show how How?
00:27:28
Speaker
oh I just couldn't believe it, honestly. So I missed the first goal and I'll be honest, I never looked back at it because I was just done with it. I was like, i'm not um I don't want to analyse that goal. I don't know. I don't want to know where it went wrong.
00:27:43
Speaker
All I know is the left back doesn't block the cross and he doesn't defend well. um But... Looking at the line-up and then i did I quickly checked the line-up and it was really good. to I thought Neto got dropped, but then I remembered he had a band to serve, which worries me because I really hope he doesn't plaate Neto doesn't play against PSG.
00:28:04
Speaker
Oh, he's definitely playing, man. Oh, he's definitely playing. so he's it was it was really good to see Garnatio back in the line-up. What? i come up i'm saying Yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah, i well you can even though yeah it? Yeah. Yeah, I'm liking a bit of Garnacho still.
00:28:24
Speaker
so No, I'm joking. But you know what it is? When you have to watch Neto, and the problem with Neto is, I don't think Neto is, I think Garnacho is better than, i'm sorry, and I think Neto is better than Garnacho.
00:28:45
Speaker
However, Neto is so selfish and is so self-centred and is so... It's such a... What's the word?
00:28:56
Speaker
um Narcissistic. I'm even going to swear. Like, he's just... a plague onto and onto the team.
00:29:08
Speaker
And every almost every attack breaks down with Neto. So the thing I appreciate about Garnaccio is he won't just try and defend once and then stop and say, oh, I'm not going to do that again.
00:29:21
Speaker
Garnaccio will keep defending and he'll keep pressing. Garnaccio will actually you know try to pass the teammates. Now, the quality may not always be there, but he is trying to pass the teammates.
00:29:34
Speaker
I know the thing with Garnaccio as well. He makes a decision. he's either he's going to shoot or he's going to pass. He's making a decision. It's not like he's going to wait for something to happen. If he's in the final third, hey, I'm getting it to my left, I'm crossing. Or I'm cutting it and shooting. It doesn't matter how the picture changes. I've made this decision. I'm going to do this. That's how he functions.
00:29:58
Speaker
Exactly. Exactly. So I'm at the point where I am so tired of watching Neto play. I am so tired. I'm so tired and I'm not cursing his ability. I'm not cursing Neto's ability.
00:30:14
Speaker
I am tired of his selfishness. It's not all about you, bro. Pass the ball. Pass the ball. Create something for someone else. Make a movement for somebody else's benefit.
00:30:30
Speaker
Do something for something else. And the manager going in a press conference here, as a manager, you have to do it. you know Positive reinforcement, calling Neto world class, all this, all that.
00:30:42
Speaker
Man, he's he's trying. He's trying. I want that guy gone as quickly as possible. Not the manager, Neto. I want him gone. He didn't even play and I'm talking about him.
00:30:54
Speaker
He didn't even play. didn't. Oh, my God. That's even funny. Even most of them, Gary Neville tried to get off some funny stuff as well. He was saying that ah he's the quote he's like Hazard-esque sort of thing. I'm thinking, what nettle are we talking about? Are we talking about this nettle?
00:31:11
Speaker
Pedro Nettle? That guy? my man not mine Man saw a five foot four winger and said he's close to Hazard. Come on, man. We have to be better than that. Don't get me wrong. Rosinha...
00:31:25
Speaker
Gas up your guy's role. Gas up your guy's role. Yeah. hear it. That's his place. As soon as you get the opportunity to use put him in a can and shoot him out. Sky! Send him some more. I need him gone expeditiously because I am done with that guy. He's screaming.
00:31:43
Speaker
I don't know why he just screams to me like a Spurs player. I don't know why. He's proper He's like my one that would be at Spurs. he's ah He's a proper Spurs player. Like, no substance, no proper grit, no no extraordinary quality, just proper Spurs-y.
00:32:04
Speaker
Like, Spurs, they're going to come in the... Spurs are going to buy this guy. I think they will. I think they will. That's what's in my head. I'm just thinking like... like Can they can buy him directly from Chelsea? I mean, they bought Bernard.
00:32:19
Speaker
we We will sell to them. Facts. We will sell to them. And they're going to give him they're going to give him about 200k a week. I promise you. It's crazy. Crazy. i of them Either them, so Saudi, or Bayern looking for a backup winger. That's what I think. Mm-hmm.
00:32:38
Speaker
And that would be failing upwards. Anyway, anyway let me let me focus on the game. i Get back to the game. That's enough. Imagine if it was on the tangent, just cussing the nettle. you know what it is? Because that's the thing that's etched in my brain the most because I've just watched them play Wrexham and honestly, it was one of the worst things I've ever watched in my life.
00:33:00
Speaker
In my life. um Cool. So...
00:33:07
Speaker
It was good that conceding early didn't affect our confidence. And Rosinha has been talking about it a lot in post press conferences. how to How he's trying to encourage the team to react well to setbacks.
00:33:20
Speaker
Setbacks always going happen. We're always going to concede. Something's always going to happen. be you know How do we react to it? Ref isn't going to give a decision. How are you going to react to it? Are you going to positive?
00:33:30
Speaker
Are you going to go within your shell? Are you going to get nervous? Are you going to get jittery? Are you not going to pass forward? Are you going to be too cautious? But we continue to play our football. We continue to play forward. We continue to play direct.
00:33:43
Speaker
And that is what I was looking for versus Arsenal. yeah And it it frustrates me to because now I go, why can't you just do that against Arsenal? Because some of the gaps that were taken advantage of, they were there against Arsenal.
00:33:59
Speaker
You know, palming the half so in in the gap between the centre mids and the defenders. Enzo in that same gap and you're passing it sideways instead of driving at the goal or shooting at the goal. So it was it was really good to see us just be a lot more for and...
00:34:20
Speaker
I'll be very honest, Villa just won't be weren't very good. it would They weren't very good. To be fair, do you put that on Rosinha in terms of the more direct approach? Because like you said, it did seem like more of an to get the ball forward, get it in behind.
00:34:40
Speaker
Because Villa do you play over high line. So even speaking of your first goal, your first goal, Enzo plays a clip ball over Gusto.
00:34:52
Speaker
Gusto, first-hand ball. Jao Pedro, tapping. but That's just so... It's so basic, but that only happens because it's an... instruct like Why is Gusto the furthest man forward? Why is he so far up? That has to be instruction-based. And even Jao Pedro...
00:35:12
Speaker
he's someone who I'm more associated with the stuff outside the box and like just the link up, the nice touches and the um that good footwork, those sort of things. But now he's sort of embracing the nine role.
00:35:27
Speaker
That goal is a simple, like strikers should get that goal at least, five times a season, just running into the box, straight line, run, bam, tap, easy. Nothing I hate more is when a striker cuts back to try and hit from the penalty spot.
00:35:45
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nothing I hate more than... That's not for you. it's and enough That's not for you. You should be right next to that goal and I want you tapping in 10 goals a season. and Tap, tap, tap, tap, tap in.
00:35:59
Speaker
That means that's all. I want you to be doing that every single time. Cutbacks are for centre mid-wingers at the back post. Like, you're not... you I hate it. i hate it because when you see that ball flash a across the goal and nobody's there...
00:36:13
Speaker
I get vexed, bro. You're like, bro, you're like... Where are you? Where are you? That's cash money. Like, Harlan, Van Nistrooy, Hasselbank, Drogba, Made a career off, stuff like that. Crash the box. Just crash the box. Get your tappings. Don't do anything else.
00:36:30
Speaker
So... And they ah sco there Sky Sports were doing some stats thing where they were looking at Gio Pedro's stats compared to and when Rosinho was here. And you can see that he's dropping in a lot less. He's receiving the ball a lot less, having a lot less touches in the game. However, he's doing more runs in behind. He's having more movement inside the box. He's having way more shots.
00:36:54
Speaker
His shot per game under Rosinho was something like 1.7 from 1.7 shots. one point seven shut That means most games you're not getting two shots a game. That's what I'm saying. It's ridiculous. And then and and now it's flown up to about 3.2, 3.5. Like that's an astronomical increase in, and you can see it from a manager's coming and said, yo, big man,
00:37:21
Speaker
you're doing too much. you All this chinky-me-chinky, you're doing way too much. You need to be way more efficient and just focus on getting on getting in the box. and and he's And he's bearing fruit from it. Look how many goals he's scored. 10 goals under Mazzini already. That was not happening on the most. He's basically like one and two throughout the season now. And that's that's good for your... It's still his first season for Chelsea. Obviously, it's not his first season in the Premier League, but being able to walk away from the season with potentially 20 to 25 goals, that's ah that's a good start. no one No one's expecting that. How much did you buy him for? Like, 50 mil?
00:38:00
Speaker
55. Yeah, 55. That's nothing compared to what we paid, what Liverpool played well um a paid, paid. You have the strikers performing the best out all of our...
00:38:12
Speaker
all of our buyers this summer. Yeah, yeah. Well, yeah let's let's hope it continues. um Hopefully it stays composed, but... so but You might need to go back to Dubai, but actually not. Let me... Never mind.
00:38:36
Speaker
run bad but it's too much better than the world bro you can't remember well you can and can't say but anyway You know what I meant. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They need to go somewhere else for their warm weather training, bro. Yeah, got i listen, man. Yeah, there's other places.
00:38:57
Speaker
okay yeah So, and you know what? To focus more on the manager again, yes, it was clear that the intent was there to play more in behind. um But the reason why I emphasise...
00:39:11
Speaker
why Villa was so poor is they just weren't doing the basics. Like usually Villa are very good with their off, off sideline. Um, they were very good at knowing when to step off and step, step back. Um, whereas was against us,
00:39:25
Speaker
they they they didn't. And like our midfielder would have two, three, four yards of space. it I could see him, I could see us winding up for a long day coming off, from coming a mile off and they literally wouldn't drop.
00:39:40
Speaker
um And in academy, you learn no pressure on the ball, head up, play, you know, pulling their foot back to to about to hit the ball. It's probably a signal that they're about to whack the ball really, really long. And,
00:39:54
Speaker
They just weren't dropping and they weren't dealing with that scenario at all. Do you think the Villa players are a little bit checked out from Emery? Or is it just like they just hit a bad run of form? Because we i think everyone was saying that at the start of the season, then they went and nine games in a row and just catapulted themselves up into the Champions League sports.
00:40:17
Speaker
He's a very intense manager, so I can i could definitely understand, um you know, personalities like him and, you know, Conte.
00:40:29
Speaker
They don't necessarily last long at places because, you know, the same voice over and over again with that much energy, that much passion um can... can, yeah, it can it can rub a few feathers and they don't they don't last long. But what i will say is, and what will give him credit for is,
00:40:49
Speaker
Look, his two main centimetres are gone, Tillemans and McGinn, which... And Kamara as well, actually. And Kamara. Ooh, all three of them, Kamara. So that's his starting three, really, if we deep it. So, you know, they're instrumental to the way he plays in possession. um And they would have been a lot more dangerous if they had those three. And then out of possession, if we look at their back four, I believe it's two or three out their back four is not there. Was Konza there?
00:41:19
Speaker
I don't think Konza was there. Yeah, Konza was captain. Okay, Konza was there. um But then, you know, that that left centre-back, Mings, should be nowhere near that starting line-up. He's absolutely yeah for some reason, what's his name? Pal Torres, I don't know if he's just came back from an injury, but he's been kind of out the squad. I mean, Mings is that was the captain-captain, and then he got that long-term injury. Yeah. his Mings isn't good. He's not good. He's actually not good. I don't know what's going on with not for Not for me. um
00:41:51
Speaker
And then, obviously, Lucas Dini, who's their starting left-back, I'm not sure what's what's happened to him. so I don't know if that was a bit of rotation, to be fair. with the Maybe, maybe. But you could see that it had to they don't have the depth to really do that and and and not be punished. So, um I think...
00:42:12
Speaker
People, especially Arsenal fans, are waiting for Emery to do bad so that they can laugh. But I think for him to even be in the top four with that squad, I'm sorry, if you look at that team man for man, even their strongest team, that's a good coaching job, in my opinion.
00:42:31
Speaker
That's a good coaching job. I don't know, you know. Not not to say that um they have a bad... I think they've got good squad, though. If everyone feels... Top four.
00:42:41
Speaker
think they've gone. Should they be in the top four? Contending for the top four. I think they should be in and around those spots. You think they should be contending for the top four over Newcastle, Chelsea, City, Arsenal, Man United and... um just Just in the mix. i'm not like Whether they get it or not is purely dependent on...
00:43:03
Speaker
if their players have hit form or not. Because Oli Watkins, over the last couple of seasons, he's been double-double in the league. like He's 18 goals, 12 assists. He's way off it now, way off it. And then, like you said, players like McGinn, they don't have Tielemans, who was probably their best player last season.
00:43:22
Speaker
Kamara is a good player. And then still, even with all those injuries and that, They're still able to have Amadou, Onana, Douglas Luiz. They got him back.
00:43:32
Speaker
Like, you look at the team, it's not that bad. It's not that bad. It's even dead no no You think it's dead? I don't rate that team. i I'll be very honest. Morgan Rodgers as well. Oh, fair, fair. I don't think he's that good. i do like me For me, I just think they have enough to do damage.
00:43:53
Speaker
If I look at them players, you know,
00:44:05
Speaker
probably Telemans. Bro, I'm being dead deadly serious. I'm taking Anana and Telemans. That's it. I'm taking Rodgers, bro. I'm taking Rodgers. I'm not even going to lie. I'm taking Rodgers. The thing is, even... Do you know is what it is? What I'm saying is,
00:44:25
Speaker
compared them to the rest of the teams outside of the big ah top six, like, I think they're way better than a lot of those teams. like you You can pull up Brighton's team. I think they're the best of the rest. That's how I've described them. That's a better way putting I can agree with that. But then I also think he shouldn't be anywhere near the top four with that squad. Yeah, yeah. Obviously, Liverpool are bad this season. um Us two were tussling. And then, what's it called?
00:44:55
Speaker
New... um thus Not Newcastle. Tottenham, they're in the pits. So if everyone was at least operating to about 80%, they wouldn't really be in the top four minutes.
00:45:06
Speaker
So yeah he's doing he's doing all right for what the current situation. But yeah, going going back to the game, Jao Pedro again for the second goal. It was... He's good. Come on!
00:45:22
Speaker
That's the of finish about that's the type of finish i'm talking about Hey, his left foot, honestly, i think he's got about, out of the 10 goals, five of them are with his left foot.
00:45:35
Speaker
Yeah, he's got a dangle with his left foot the other day as well, didn't he? Dirty, dirty, dirty, dirty. um For me, that's that's a minimum requirement for me as a striker, as any professional player, to be honest with you. Your left foot, you have to train your left foot to to a level where you should be able to do things with it. um And I think it's shocking when players, especially strikers, don't know how to shoot off both feet. um So, mate, he's, yeah, he's proper, proper, proper, he's impressing me.
00:46:06
Speaker
He is impressing me. Third goal, nice and easy, ball over the top, great ball by Palmer. um And then Garnaccio does the right thing. and sets him there. That was after not giving it to him on a previous chance, by the way, Garnaccio. So going to mark that down.
00:46:22
Speaker
um like, Garnaccio, bro, for some reason, the ball always falls to him. When he's on the pitch, the the chances will always fall to him. So he's going to take shots. He's going to take shots at that.
00:46:33
Speaker
um Against Wexham, he had eight shots. jeff per it age she's he's actually a chance magnet, you know. it's and it's doing and this And honestly, I get the premise of us getting him.
00:46:46
Speaker
i I honestly do. I get it. But when you've already got Neto, nah, we didn't need that. Do you get what I mean? And There was a talent in in being in the right positions and being hungry enough to continuously run in behind with energy and and his ability to to to to go again and again and not get discouraged. he He did have a blip and he lost his way a little bit, hence why he got dropped for quite a while. But these are the qualities of, like, I can respect him. I may not like
00:47:20
Speaker
it or I may not think that we need him ah but I can respect his mentality so yeah look he can I saw a stat yeah Ahmed Diallo is on 4G and hey hey hey what doing what we doing what we doing what we doing we doing what we doing what we doing what we doing what conversation trying to have oh you I need to get my bow and arrow out and start targeting Bro, the star player Amartya has got 14, eh?
00:47:55
Speaker
Canaccio is collecting these for fun He's been playing wing-back for half the season He's been playing wing-back for half the season Let's not do this, bro Be honest, right now
00:48:09
Speaker
swap deal, Garnaccio for Diallo, which one? If Diallo's getting 4G and A, I won't get it, bro. Right now, right. 4G and A? 4G and A?
00:48:20
Speaker
Calm, calm. What's Diallo been doing all season? What's he been doing all season? He's been wing-backed. Because of the avenue.
00:48:32
Speaker
Even we'll get onto him later. We'll get onto him later. He's got something special lined up for him. Oh, no, all jokes aside, yeah, that manager is a criminal.
00:48:43
Speaker
How's he got it? Save that, save that. All right, cool, cool, cool. So, just to talk on a couple other things before we move on, Rosinha put Rhys James in a midfield three instead of the right-back role, which is only the second time he's done that. um So, I've been a huge advocate of putting Rhys James as a right-back. However,
00:49:09
Speaker
Andre Santos, who I think has been decent since Rosinha's come in. ah In some games, I'm seeing some glaring weaknesses off the ball. I thought he was a lot more methodical. I thought he was a lot more calculated off the ball.
00:49:24
Speaker
But in the last few games, I've seen him become quite rash. And... and he's he' on a few occasions getting caught and players are running through him really and that's huge and that's because he's over committing so whether it's just a rest reset and and get back to playing your football thing or is it a ah more a more obvious weakness where it's like you're a little bit undersized and I keep telling you I keep telling you I need my 6 foot 2 redacted
00:50:01
Speaker
I keep telling you, mate, honestly, because was struggling against Arsenal. Oh, that was a bad day. He was struggling. Yeah, Declan Rice, that man were were pushing him around like a small boy.
00:50:14
Speaker
So... Yeah, i would I would definitely... So I think that's the reason of why he put Rhys James in midfield. And I wouldn't be shocked if he does the same against PSG.
00:50:24
Speaker
um I do think it's going to be Augusto overlapping like he'd done, ah being high and wide like he'd done versus Villa. um And i I think this was very much with the intention of of playing a very similar way. I just really...
00:50:42
Speaker
I know Garnaccio is not going to start against PSG because he's played 90 versus Villa and he's played 120 versus Wexham. So I would be very shocked if he now plays another, if he now starts versus PSG. He's not going to play. He's not.
00:50:57
Speaker
So it's frustrating because that probably means I have, because with Esteval injured and Gittins, I think he's still injured, Gittins. um And I think...
00:51:08
Speaker
that probably means I'm going to have to watch Neto, which is going to send me to the moon. Like that is going to, his first mistake, I'm going to crash out.
00:51:23
Speaker
I am. I am. So. Yeah, against PSG, he's already, he's already want to deal with all that kind of stuff. But at the same time, You never know, man. You never know. where The Champions League is a funny tournament, bro.
00:51:35
Speaker
It's a funny competition. Yeah. though i I think your biggest worry is your defence stinks, man. And coming up against these, man... god So, so so i'll our defence is okay when it's Chalibah, Fafana, Kukuehla and Rhys James.
00:51:56
Speaker
It's okay, generally. And that is the back four that has got our second in the clean sheet table. Yeah. It's just when we've had to now mix and match and, um you know, Kukurela being injured or Rhys James in midfield playing Gusto, Acheng Pong at centre-back. When we've had to... Chalabar played with so many centre-back partnerships this season. I think he's played with every single player.
00:52:22
Speaker
you especially you know I think it doesn't it doesn't help. I like the rotation. I like that we're spreading minutes, but I don't think it helps.
00:52:33
Speaker
With centre-backs, you probably want a stable at least for the Premier League games. if if if if If you want to rotate in the cup, game's great. But for the Premier League games, it'll be good to just um try and keep it as stable as possible. So i do I do think it'll be a Celeba-Fofana partnership against PSG. And um um I'll be honest, I don't think and't think I'll be too too scared. um It's annoying to hear that Dembele is back.
00:53:04
Speaker
I thought he may miss this game, but he came on as a sub to PSG's loss versus Monaco. um so And they've also got Neves came off injured, but apparently he's okay. which again is annoying, but Fabio Ruiz will definitely be out. um So we'll see we'll see. Hopefully it's an entertaining game and we'll nick it.
00:53:33
Speaker
I'd love to nick it at their ground and then go go back to the Stamford Bridge with with a win. Yeah. Yeah, so I think that's enough Chelsea. I'm sick of them mutes. Yeah, let's move on to our...
00:53:51
Speaker
special segment of the show. So, today we've got a little... we'll we'll We'll have to keep it quick because I don't ah don't want it to trigger any responses within us because, listen, these guys have put us through some dark times here.
Worst Managers Discussion
00:54:08
Speaker
But... Dark! We just want to do quick top three worst managers of...
00:54:19
Speaker
your lifetime for your club. Oof. that was something that... I don't know why I want to revisit pain. My pain wasn't that far away. So... I got... I don't know if you want to start or you want to go back and forth, but... But yeah.
00:54:39
Speaker
yeah you you can You can start. You can start. i need I need to contain myself. I need to prepare myself for my... Yeah. Yeah.
00:54:49
Speaker
So this is going to start sound very strange.
00:54:55
Speaker
And I love... This is this, this, this, went when this manager came in, this is a very memorable moment.
00:55:06
Speaker
um But I love this, well, I loved this man. And... But his reign...
00:55:18
Speaker
kick started a sequence of events that made us worse off in the long run. um Jose Muno stepped to the stage.
00:55:30
Speaker
Come to the stage, come to the stage, come to the stage. Bro, like people will be shocked. Like, don't get me wrong, that league title was absolutely fantastic. Costa Fabregas, oh, and Hazard, oh,
00:55:45
Speaker
We were enjoying that season. But at what cost? Yeah. Jose came in. He hardly rotated. He didn't give Dubuyn a chance.
00:55:57
Speaker
He didn't give Salah a chance. Oh my gosh, wait, it was him. It was him. Yeah, bro. Oh my God. People forget this. People forget this. People will forget this, yeah?
00:56:09
Speaker
And then Lukaku was on loan. That was probably not Jose's fault. um He was on loan and we ended up we ended up selling him regardless. um But I vividly remember us bringing in Salah was raw.
00:56:24
Speaker
He was. I know he was. But he was an adequate squad player that we could have been patient with because we had starting quality players there already in Willian and Hazard. And i think I think Pedro was there or Sherlock. Sherlock was there. um so And his stubbornness to continue to use Oscar in every single game.
00:56:50
Speaker
Bro, every single game. And Oscar left to go to China like not long after. So it was it was kind of like, at what cost?
00:57:00
Speaker
Mata, gone. At what cost? Like, we were calling them Mazakar. It was Hazard, Oscar, Mata. That season is honestly the best front three I've ever seen play for Chelsea.
00:57:15
Speaker
Like, in terms of as a as a unit. we signed Mata, I thought we struck gold. I thought we got Mata. Bro. I couldn't believe it.
00:57:28
Speaker
and And you did, you did, but you just you just didn't have the stability around him to really kind of push forward, no? Not so.
00:57:40
Speaker
So... So, like, I think it was one of the worst appointments at the time for the club. We were looking... We were going down the trajectory younger, fresher, newer talent and trusting the youth, trusting the players.
00:57:54
Speaker
But Jose took us back to that old, overpaid salary, um ah you know, thinking about the now and here... Win now. Win now sort of mentality. And it clashed with what I thought we were moving towards because I thought we were moving towards stability.
00:58:09
Speaker
And that, honestly... the Honestly, that league title messed us up for years to come. Years to come. And it's such a shame because obviously watching what Dubwayne became two years later, what Salah became three years later, um you know, to watch Mata not be the player that he was, to to see Oskar leave soon after, and Hazard now being surrounded by absolute dross,
00:58:40
Speaker
It was such a shame. Such a shame. Such a shame. um So, Jose, you're going to have to hold that one because you you sold you so we sold our soul to the devil.
00:58:52
Speaker
We did. We did. Cool. What about you? What's your third? third? Oh, I wasn't even thinking about ranking, you know. I was just i was thinking about the pain. I was just...
00:59:06
Speaker
I was reminiscing on the dark, dark times, but I think, so for me, me personally, might actually have to join you, you know, I might actually have to, you might have to have a double trial, you know, bro.
00:59:28
Speaker
Yeah. That guy, that, Jose Mourinho, yeah. Just say it. It's Jose Mourinho. No, I disagree, you know. that no you know for For me personally, it's not strictly because of the football and the trophies and the results and stuff.
00:59:45
Speaker
I think he was the start of this whole concept of player FC within Manchester United. He was like the catalyst for a lot of narratives that started with Manchester United, like pub was a virus, the...
01:00:02
Speaker
All of these things. And then by the end of it, the football was crap anyway. yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah. The football was there. And you see the stuff like, finishing second was one of the greatest achievements that I've had as a manager. Bro, you had Ibra,
01:00:28
Speaker
He had Luka, he had Rashford, he had Martial. Do you know what's the baddest thing? You look back at that team and you go, hey, yo, bro, I would love that team right now. Are you right? Are you right?
01:00:44
Speaker
Yeah. He signed Lindelof. He had David De Gea, a good David De Gea, not the washed one. he had He sent to wherever you sent him to, you but then he brought in Ashley Young.
01:00:55
Speaker
like he He had a squad, so don't be telling me seconds the best thing you've ever done in your career. like He just started saying stuff, bro. It was the Jose Mourinho show. That's what it was.
01:01:08
Speaker
He was moving senile them times, guys. He was senile. Like, that is... i on the yeah he got He benched Pogba to bring in McTominay, and that's what started the whole McTominay era as well. no yeah okay He's doing well in Italy. cool He was right. He was right the end. was right at the end.
01:01:29
Speaker
was in ma all But... That was pure nonsense, bro. That was pure Ico. That was pure Ico. We signed Alexis Sanchez for him. We signed Alexis Sanchez for him. because he wanted him. One of the worst transfers ever. Bro, and then we benched Martial for this old Alexis Sanchez. Stunted Martial's development. Rashford got sent to Azkaban as well. He got less minutes. And then it just started to be like, a what are we doing here now?
01:01:57
Speaker
What are we doing here, man? But yeah, it was the combination of all that. And this whole PlayFC, all of it, we're still suffering from that error. We're still... Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:02:11
Speaker
Residue is a crazy word. But we still... LAUGHTER oh We're still suffering. that Bro, Manchester United still wallows from that period, bro. But yeah.
01:02:26
Speaker
Anyway, what's your second? don't want to drag this out. I don't want to drag it out, but bro, I feel your pain. It's bringing up what I got. Bro, I'd like... What makes it worse for us is that we had a league title to celebrate.
01:02:42
Speaker
So people was like, why are you still angry? It's like, guys, our future's gone. do you mean? yeah like Our scouts did their job. Imagine we kept Lukaku, the brain, sell-up.
01:02:56
Speaker
Are you crazy? Look at how many titles we could have gone on in one. like That was prime Lukaku, the one that could move and play right wing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, man. cool.
01:03:10
Speaker
Second... ah ah I think...
01:03:22
Speaker
I think the second has to be... butit Just based off pure feedback from the players, the second worst will have to be André Villas-Boas.
01:03:36
Speaker
oh oh I forgot about him. i forgot about him. to be him but to see Because he he he was like Jose 2.0. He won the Europa League, I think, with Porto or something like that. And then we bring him in because that's what we do. We bring in champions, managers, you know, who are champions have won stuff.
01:04:00
Speaker
so But we also wanted someone young um to to to to to go with our trend of, you know, getting younger players. There's Donny came in.
01:04:11
Speaker
He was just doing too much. He was just doing too much. You've got remember, these times were prime Lampard, prime Terry, prime Gopher, prime Czech. Our clubs are joltings, you know. To even leave that in the hands of this guy.
01:04:27
Speaker
bro. He came in and according to John Terry, this is John Terry's words, like he came in and he was doing too much. To the point John Terry came came to him in front of everyone, just said, stop.
01:04:43
Speaker
Just said, stop. But put his hand on the shoulder said, bro, it's okay. It's okay. like You're not going to win this. And apparently he came on a tip and tried to like take on John Terry and basically tried to like show him who's boss.
01:04:58
Speaker
um And then nothing think he benched him as well. He benched him for quite a lot of that, quite a lot of his tenure. um Anyway, soon the... player said, a think it was Jonobi that said, oh, he went to Roman and he had a chat with Roman Abomovic.
01:05:16
Speaker
If you want to see player power, if you want to see player power, Chelsea them times was player power. You might wonder why we had so many coaches. We were winners. Yeah, yeah it was calm because we were winners.
01:05:30
Speaker
It was calm because we were winners. But... But you wonder why we had so many managers. Every time these managers just went f***ing someone, hey woman roman Roman, Roman, Roman, get this guy out here.
01:05:42
Speaker
Get this guy out of here. I don't want him, I don't want him. but We don't like him, we don't like him. Like, bro, the the moves them man could, they had direct line to the top dog. Man's on his pillow doing so a pillow talk at 10pm.
01:05:58
Speaker
Yeah, don't yeah do you should have seen what he said today. No, but roman Roman understood that, bro. The players are the most important thing, bro. It's true. These guys are the ones who are going to win me the trophies. It's actually true. I honestly don't care. It's true. It's true. So for me, he's the worst because Man... Bro, me, little me, yeah. Imagine I win Europa League. You think I'm going to come in and start chatting to Ruben Diaz, Holland, Turkey, and start trying to dictate what my man... Hey, I'll be there like, hey, guys, whatever you've been doing, we're just going to keep doing it.
01:06:39
Speaker
Yeah. I hear it. I hear it. Cool. number Number two for me, bro, has to be that bald guy, man.
01:06:52
Speaker
Eric, man. The League Cup and the FA Cup, they were great. You know what's mad? The fact that he's not top. you see That's actually mad. It's impossible. It's impossible. He can't be top.
01:07:04
Speaker
he because It's mad that he's not top. That's actually He would have been this guy didn't exist. But, yeah. and Like, the thing with Eric Ten Hag, yeah.
01:07:14
Speaker
People, this this is the thing. Manchester United fans have got the whole Eric Ten Hag tenure all wrong. They've got it all mixed up. Their brains are all mumbo-jumbo from what happened. He came in the first two games. He tried to do his tactics and all that. We got blammed by Brentford. Yep, I remember. and i Those two games are in my head. 4-0, was it? 4-0 both.
01:07:41
Speaker
It was 4-0 both. Oh, jeez. Back to back.
01:07:46
Speaker
Listen, David De Gea was on foolishness that season as well. I remember. He was letting these stupid balls. Like, you know when you'll get your hand to the ball and then the ball goes under your hand? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, Ten Hag did that and he said, yeah?
01:08:01
Speaker
a car do i can't do it. I can't do it. I can't it. Like an intelligent manager... He said, let me switch to something that works with this current club. Even though we still signed Anthony, we still signed Casemiro, we still signed hind said Martinez, Malassio.
01:08:22
Speaker
Who else did we sign in that first season? But we signed Ulderman first season. yeah So he got a couple of players, but he still realised he couldn't do what he needed to do. So he changed his tactics, whatever.
01:08:33
Speaker
got us a league cup. got us top four. Great, great work. So now you and your coaching staff have to go into the summer, rejig, bring your Ajax football back because we didn't really want to see that football. And what he proceeded to serve up?
01:08:50
Speaker
Oh my God. That's some of the craziest football. Like, logically, it just didn't make sense. Anything we were doing, i was watching us. brief I remember Wolves, the first game of that second season, and Matthias Cunha was just... running through us cutting through us cutting through I was like yeah this is our start in the next season well that that increased Ken Hogg said I'm sticking to it yeah that's what we're doing yeah yeah the most shots yeah ever faced I think it was the most shots ever faced by a Premier League team or something like that
01:09:26
Speaker
And you know what made that... That second season was our worst ever summer window. I don't think we've ever had any other worst... We signed Hoyland, Onana, Mason Mount... Who else did we signed?
01:09:40
Speaker
No, we got Veranda season before, I think. yeah miss All misses. Those three. Those three alone... All misses. All misses. And don't forget about all the loans that we had in between.
01:09:52
Speaker
Weghorst. God. God. Submit. Bro. He with the Crescendo and Nardo to bring in Weghorst. Bro. God.
01:10:07
Speaker
And then, yeah, all the football. Wow. All of this stuff was just mental. Mental. And the thing is, for me, is like, cool, you can have your idea, you can have your philosophy, but if it's not working, then just change it. And what I say about Man United fans got it wrong, his issue wasn't that he changed to in the first season. The issue was the solution he came up with in the second season was even worse.
01:10:34
Speaker
That's what it is. It was even worse. He said he wanted to be the the most the best transition team ever, but also didn't have the team to physically...
01:10:47
Speaker
you know, cope with that style of football anyway. hey will He was leaving Kobe Meno and Casemiro on that island every game. Every team. It was food. It was food. It was food.
01:11:01
Speaker
Imagine that accompanied with Onana throwing the ball in the net. Imagine that. But you know what, yeah? But you know what, yeah? For the first six months of that season, remember remember in the group, I was backing Onana.
01:11:16
Speaker
For the first six months of hours. Yeah, because we saw the Champions League the season before. We saw what he was doing. Yeah, but not just... True, but not just that. It was just, for me, was thinking, this man's facing shots as if he's 20th in the league.
01:11:31
Speaker
He's facing as many shots as the as the team is 20th. And, like, you man are wondering why he's going to make the stakes here and there. That's the way I looked at it. ah like wouldn't you you How can you set up a team that faces so many shots?
01:11:46
Speaker
Bro, and the thing is, yeah, the worst thing about Eric Tenha's tenure, yeah, forget the football, forget the tactics, forget all of that stuff. He has the worst hit ratio of signings I've ever seen of a manager. Oof.
01:12:00
Speaker
Oof. I don't think he had one hit. Oof. Actually, the only hit he had was Martinez. Alvarez. All the signings he had, yeah. Barely. Just Martin. Yeah, all alone. Just Martin. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And even now, he's injury-prone. Bro, if I listed out every single striker, this person we bought, this person, all the money we spent. And it's not like... Fans were doing this thing of like, oh, he didn't get Frankie De Jong. Oh, he didn't get his first pick. He didn't get... Bro, you signed a half-fit Mason Mount and we're still feeling it now.
01:12:34
Speaker
And we gave him number seven, Rasmus Hoyland. All of these men are rubbish and they're your guys. How can you... Bro, we were being quoted 30-something million for Rasmus Hojland. You send them to your agency and somehow we pay double. and that's that's what you that's what you have That's what happens, yeah.
01:12:55
Speaker
But you're the manager of our club. Why are you making us pay more? That doesn't make sense. That doesn't make sense. you're you're getting he's probably getting a signing fee of bringing his own clients to the club and we just sat back John Myrtle, Ed Woodward they all just sat back and was like this yeah let me tell you to let me tell you one thing about football here the fact that it's not and it's it's legal as well this is all legal This is all legal and nobody will go to jail for it.
01:13:23
Speaker
it's madful It's mad, It's mad. Non-league. There's a non-league team, yeah? The manager used to used to get to go to players, oh, come and sign for my club and then give me a cut. Give me a cut at the signing fee.
01:13:38
Speaker
Madness. Live-o. Man will just do that. Madness. It's madness, bro. And then the same thing now, not even now, it's always happened at professional level.
01:13:50
Speaker
It's just even more money involved. And that's what Ten Hag was doing. That's what he was doing. And way is there not why is there not a um ah documentary on it?
01:14:03
Speaker
Why? why oh how you comments somebody soft Somebody's not doing their job, though. Because why is this not a documentary? Bare managers do this. Bare teams sporting directors, agents, they do it all the time. Moves, transfers, just for cuts, inflated fees, just to get a cut. Because there's no way, there's no way Ajax comes back to you with 100 mil for Anthony and you go and say yes.
01:14:32
Speaker
For a man that's not even back me.
01:14:37
Speaker
And they said 100. Bro, all he needed was like three men to
Graham Potter's Critiques
01:14:41
Speaker
bank. If Anthony was who he thought he was, he would actually still have a job. If Anthony was able to just be half the player of what um Ten Hag Foy was, bro, anyway, yeah, that's my number two, bro. Who's your worst manager of all time? Who's your worst manager?
01:15:06
Speaker
It will be... Mr. The Boys Gave Everything, Grey and Butter. Oh, my goodness.
01:15:18
Speaker
And you know what? This one this one really, this one really, really grinds my gears because... You know, look, if if you've got someone who is of similar background to you, you are more than likely going to be um nicer or more inclined to see this person do well. Yeah.
01:15:45
Speaker
So what i mean by that is people in the media who have always rated Graham Potter, but without an ever mentioning the fact that in the middle of every single season at Brighton, he would go to about 12, 15 games without winning.
01:16:02
Speaker
every single season. Different levels of pressure. all this All the stats are there. All the stats are there, bro. But in the in the eyes of the media, he was a an up-and-coming, exciting coach.
01:16:15
Speaker
Okay, cool. For me, that's a huge red flag, especially as a top club trying to employ him. Yeah? Cool. We employ him, whatever.
01:16:26
Speaker
I think Chelsea fans have failed to ever, ever put two and two together for that season. And what I mean by that is the fact that we finished 12th was masked by the fact that we signed 40 players.
01:16:42
Speaker
So everybody equated to the signing of 40 players to us finishing 12th, which was fine, whatever. But our season was already derailed before that.
01:16:55
Speaker
right yeah And the reason why is because we were woefully unfit.
01:17:03
Speaker
Unfit. When that guy came into our team, he did not bring a strength and conditioning coach. He didn't have a strength and conditioning coach. He didn't have a fitness coach.
01:17:15
Speaker
How can you coach without a fitness coach?
01:17:20
Speaker
And you yourself, you don't you're you're not an expert in fitness. How does that make sense? Dumb. Make it make sense. they other me if it vaco It doesn't it make sense. It It don't. It don't.
01:17:32
Speaker
So we... And the people don't... that That must mean that Brighton already had all that sorted for him. So he just came with him and his assistant and just called him. But then he felt he felt he didn't need it. if he felt He felt he didn't need it.
01:17:46
Speaker
So cool. We left that pre-season so unfit. So, yeah, no, no. It was Tuku that took the pre-season. um We had a horrible pre-season because we were doing all that American tour nonsense that the owners were weren were were messing us up with. Then Tuku gets sacked, then this guy comes in. Yeah.
01:18:07
Speaker
And whatever brand of football, positional play, you go here, you go there, that he was trying to do, Raheem Sterling at left wing back or right wing back. um Yeah, it was atrocious. Like, I remember the first few games, you know, just based off new manager bouts, we all right.
01:18:26
Speaker
But honestly, then for that rest of the season, We were horrible. Horrible, horrible, horrible. And i hate i hate to talk about someone's personality, but I just don't i just don't i don't think he had the cojones.
01:18:46
Speaker
I just don't. I just don't. And I say that in the nicest way possible. I don't mean that as a negative to towards the guy. You know, he's probably a really nice guy, but I don't think he had the personality, the gravitas to be Chelsea manager. And usually i hate when people say that because you don't know the person, you never know. But on this occasion... I heard that.
01:19:09
Speaker
On this occasion, dead man. The job was too much for him. was. It was. He looked like he was drowning after a while. He looks stressed. When he first came in, it was like, cool. Let's see. You've got some time to work out what's going on but then the expectations hit quick just because you've come in and you didn't get a summer don't mean you get to come and be rubbish no not no Chelsea no sorry oh the the media is watching every single game everything's on the billboard bro yo know you you can't just come in and be rubbish
01:19:44
Speaker
The man is thinking about that season is we had like 10 injuries as well. Like after he came in almost, think we never really had a moment where
Managerial Failures and Opportunism
01:19:55
Speaker
we didn't have 10, nine players injured.
01:19:58
Speaker
And then they so ended up signing like 30 players. And yeah, we were still way too many people. But because we had so many injuries, it even seemed like,
01:20:10
Speaker
You know, if anything, it seemed like, yeah, it's great that they put in these new players. they Look, the management, the guys in charge didn't make it, they they made it very difficult for him. It was absolutely ridiculous what they did in terms of bringing in that many people in that January transfer window.
01:20:27
Speaker
But, but, purely off what I saw from a coaching point of view, from a fitness point of view, from a set-up, the way we were so open,
01:20:38
Speaker
Honestly, I thought I've seen open before, but i that was like a waterfall, just constant. People running through through us like we were like we were feathers, mate, honestly. So Graham Potter, unfortunately you'll have to take this take this one.
01:20:59
Speaker
is And who is your, not that I have to say,
01:21:07
Speaker
Yeah. For me, it's only one person, man. Had not to drag it on. I think I've done enough talking about this guy, but Ryan Giggs, you are the... I was like, wait, what?
01:21:25
Speaker
When did Ryan Giggs manage you? was into him for like a little bit, but no, no. It's That is honestly...
01:21:36
Speaker
the worst managerial tenure I think I've ever seen in my whole life at a top club the Portuguese heist worst yeah that was a nice cash grab bro yeah yeah Portuguese heist he got his money dipped he okay man he's gonna go back to Portugal he's probably to be honest he's managing Benfico portal next hundreds, 100 million percent.
01:22:01
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I call him with money, don't really give a hell. But honestly, that was probably on the some of the darkest times as a Man United fan. like Just the constant losing, then the justifying of the constant losing, then Madman and the presser je just losing his head.
01:22:21
Speaker
And then the next week, well, you know, I didn't mean what i was going to say. Like, i meant that you know what mean? Like, I meant it this way. And then the next week, to say it again, or to say something new, throw players under the bus. Say, if i I want to quit, sometimes want to quit.
01:22:39
Speaker
Sometimes just want to quit. I want you to quit. So quit. Stop telling me you're going to quit, bro. What the hell is this? Why are you teasing me? Why are you teasing me? it Just quit.
01:22:50
Speaker
Just quit then. If you want to quit, quit. We're on your side. Oh, and then there was just, bro, the constant infight in between Man United fans. Like, oh, no, just give him time. it's not his fault. You don't have his players. Oh, blah, blah, blah. He's trying his best. What do you expect? Oh, like that. He's honest. I like that. He's like, bro, why did everyone like him so much?
01:23:13
Speaker
Why did everyone like him so much? That's a big mystery. That's a big mystery. I think maybe because he spoke well and he was relatively young and he had a Montclair jacket. I think I've said this before. He didn't speak well. He just spoke. Nah. He just spoke. That's And he said too much.
01:23:31
Speaker
He said too much. If you speak so well, you don't need to keep coming out and clarifying what you said because your point should just go across. Every week, he was just re-going back re-explaining reexplained and then re- like, ah my my man's saying, oh, Kobe Mainu, he's doing everything right in training. and It's just unfortunate he's he's um competing with Bruno.
01:23:53
Speaker
Okay, so why every time you sub him on, you sub off Casemiro?
01:24:03
Speaker
Like, I've got something you just have to say, I'm the idiot. I'm the idiot for engaging. I'm the idiot for engaging. You know, it's like walking down the street and some random guy is just trying to pick a fight with you.
01:24:15
Speaker
If you stand and argue with the random crazy person, you're crazy as well. You should just walk away. just a man, this is what my club's on right now. I'm kind of checking out until my man's gone, bro. The worst win percentage ever in the history of the club. And people were just happy that Mamon got rid of Rashford. If I'm being honest, Mamon got rid of Rashford and then match when people were happy.
01:24:40
Speaker
That's it. That's it. He disciplined some people. That's it. even though that is i i don't even think i don't even think that was i think that was a club move anyway. like i didn't It was a club move, but because it looked like he was the authority figure, all people were like, yes, this is what we've been needing, this player FC. Back to Jose Mourinho, this player FC, yes, the find these someone's finally putting their foot down and showing these players who's the boss. Still now, Rashford starts for us.
01:25:13
Speaker
i doing the left wing only so have a left wing off he got rid of two left wingers for the stupid mid formation even me i don't like the nachel but if i'm being one hundred percent on the show that euroal league final kindna came on and hung our first shot on target we've been like five minutes i've been being on and he came on in like the seventieth minute so um i can i can know I can understand Gennacher at the end of the game saying, I don't know why I didn't start.
01:25:44
Speaker
Why didn't I start? I've been playing every game ever since um since he came in and then I'm dropped for the final. How does that make sense? ah That's not the most crazy thing a player can say. You can be mad at it as a manager.
01:25:59
Speaker
The worst thing is you clearly haven't even chat to him to make him understand why he's been dropped at all. your choice Honestly, he's... upset he yeah is the fact that that lasted so long, I just couldn't, I thought the Ten Hag thing was mad, like in terms of the amount of time that you've spent with him. But if we look back now, you kind of look back at that time with a bit of, a bit of like, oh, he wasn't so bad.
01:26:31
Speaker
Because how was this guy allowed to keep going? but for me And the way man would just ruin relationships in the in the press conference. Bro, I would i was mentally checked out.
01:26:43
Speaker
I was mentally checked out about three months into his tenure. That sounds so crazy. And obviously, it's our hindsight. Bro, I can show you messages from my other group chat of me saying from... He came in in November. And at the end of January, I was like, yeah, he needs to go.
01:27:00
Speaker
in the channel. like, yeah, needs to go.
Positive Changes Under Carrick
01:27:02
Speaker
That wasn't even just a strictly results week. He was just doing mad stuff. He was just doing mad stuff on the... Bro, my man had Garnaccio playing 10. My man would play Hoyland. Hoyland plays rubbish. He'll still start him, continue starting, continue starting. Xerxi will come on have a good game. Then he'll still be benched. And then you're just looking at it like...
01:27:24
Speaker
Am i crazy? Am I a crazy person? Dallot, left wing back. Masurati, right wing back. Lost every game when both of them two played as a wing back. option But why? He kept Why? But why? Why would you put Dallot, left wing back? Why?
01:27:44
Speaker
wow there was why Why? So many questions. And then coming into this season... More the same continued. The only difference is we got rid of Olnana. We got rid of Hoyland and actually brought in some decent players. So they were carrying the torch. But then somehow we still lost to Grimsby Town.
01:28:04
Speaker
Still lost to Grimsby, bro. Knocked out the FA Cup. But losing run after losing run. And then Carrick has come in. and just completely dispelled everything. Everything that guy said was nonsense. That's it. You all just drank whatever Kool-Aid this guy was selling, and we just ended up here, man. But, yeah, I've i've done so many talks on Ruben.
01:28:28
Speaker
That's it, man. He's not getting on.
01:28:32
Speaker
But, yeah, so we should just move on to our final segment, the... Don't blame the rough moment of the week. um Have you got anything in mind on your side?
01:28:49
Speaker
I'm going to go with...
01:28:58
Speaker
Neto, you selfish, you selfish, selfish bleep, bleep, bleep, bleep. ble You selfish, selfish, just selfish. I've never seen an ego so big, but the talent does not match the ego.
01:29:14
Speaker
And I could only, i don't know him personally. I can only go off what I see on the picture. But there's a is there's a clip here, don't know if you can find it online, there's a clip of Neto dropping in, receiving the ball off somebody, trying to one-touch the ball to Kaiseido, or whatever sentiment was standing there, him messing that up completely and just passing it to the Wexham player, and then him proceeding to just stand there.
01:29:39
Speaker
That's a person... think handle Bro, that's a person... Yeah, when when someone's work walking around on a podcast calling him Hazard, of course he's going to think that. Yeah, he thinks he's cold.
01:29:52
Speaker
Literally just standing there and allowing them to just run at our defence... And to like think of that scenario, he's dropped into midfield, given it to another midfielder, lost it, and they're driving straight out of back four, and he's just standing still, while everybody else is busting the gut to try and try and defend it.
01:30:12
Speaker
That's a person that's mentally tapped out. He is not engaged with this football club. He's not engaged with the task at hand. And whether he's frustrated that he gets dropped now because his um is his dad his daddy, Mureska, is gone and he's frustrated that he gets dropped now and he's throwing strops.
01:30:32
Speaker
Cool. There's another clip of the Club World Cup final. yeah I hadn't seen it until literally like two months ago. where Sanchez plays a long ball to Gusto. It bounces off Mendes' head and goes and falls into Gusto's path.
01:30:50
Speaker
Gusto goes on to set up Palmer and Palmer scores. But while Gusto's receiving the ball, you see Neto screaming at Sanchez to give him the ball. Sanchez doesn't give him the ball. Gives it to Neto.
01:31:02
Speaker
Gives it to Gusto. By the time Palmer scores, Neto's still on the halfway line. He's completely out of the frame, by the way. because Because he didn't get the ball. He because he didn check him up you didn't want to be involved. Because he didn't get the ball. He didn't get involved.
01:31:18
Speaker
yeah you need This is the final. Dom, how mad is that? How mad is that? That you're focusing on the fact that you didn't get the ball. We're in the final.
01:31:31
Speaker
It's PSG. We want to win.
01:31:35
Speaker
I can't imagine he's insufferable to work with. He must be insufferable to work with. I've never seen anything like that, you know? a final, chilling on the halfway line because he didn't get the ball.
Referee Blame Discussion
01:31:49
Speaker
Bro, I need him. Like, bro, I wish you all the best. Just find another club, please, for the love of God. Please. Please.
01:32:00
Speaker
That was even a don't blame the ref moment. I just wanted to attack him. That's it. That's it. Kick him while he's down.
01:32:11
Speaker
What's your don't blame the ref moment? Bro, for me, it's funny because we've been getting a lot of decisions going our way as of recent.
01:32:23
Speaker
Bro, I didn't even speak about... them how How do we... Oh, no, that was Casemiro that scored, right? But... Michael Carrick, bro. Listen, I'll praise when praise is due, but I'll also criticise when criticism is needed, bro.
01:32:40
Speaker
Listen, find a solution, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're the one who wanted to play the same line-up for six games in a row and not attempt to other things. So this is where we are right now. Now you have to find a solution on the spot because you didn't experiment when you had the opportunity to It's where we are. So if if you're going to play in Buemo again, drop Ahmad, play the same lineup that we played from before.
01:33:06
Speaker
is where it is. If we go revert back to what worked against City and all them, because Villa are going to play a high line, so you're going to play in Buemo up top. It is where is, man.
01:33:19
Speaker
i'll Just get the results, man. I'll be very shocked if he don't beat Villa. That's where the real concerns will start. but I think 100% he's going to go back to that formation that we played against Arsenal.
01:33:31
Speaker
He's dropping Cesc. Yeah. Ahmed's coming back on the right. And Buomo's going up top. Kunio on the left. I think Dogu's a big miss, you know? Which is strange. I feel like he gave you balance on the left-hand side and I feel like Kunio doesn't... Yeah, Kunio doesn't... Yeah, because Luke Shaw doesn't move. Kunio doesn't like being on the left. Kunio... Konya plays central. he He wants to always come central. So our team is just completely off balance. And that's because we don't have a left winger. I don't even know if we've got someone in the academy who can play left wing.
01:34:03
Speaker
I don't know. i don't watch academy football. JJ. Nope. Nope. No, no, no, no, no. The only person who can actually revoltly play is probably Shea Lacey, but I don't know if he can play left.
01:34:16
Speaker
He should be getting some cameos, man. Some minutes. But Carrick isn't at the stage where he can experiment. He just needs to get results, but I wouldn't mind playing the young...
01:34:28
Speaker
player who's going to at least be energetic on the left hand side just to put in crosses. That's it. Running behind and putting crosses on your left left foot and just hope... sorry But that's that's what i'm saying. That's not a solution. that's ah That's an option. That's something you can do.
01:34:44
Speaker
And that's what i mean. that For managers, you get paid the money, come up with solutions, man. We need to win. We need to beat Villa. Beat Villa and we're top four, 100%. Because they're going to take a... They're going to go warm like that.
01:34:59
Speaker
Because everyone's going to start focusing on the cup and all that and then, cool, we'll come.
Conclusion and Listener Engagement
01:35:05
Speaker
We're able to... keep top four but yeah that's it Michael, Mikel, Carrick do your job my bro save United um thank you all for tuning in it's been a good episode and please like subscribe you know, all that stuff, you know how much it can help a channel grow. um If you're on Spotify, please give us a five-star review. If you're on Apple Podcasts, five-star review or four-star, whatever you think is... No, only five-star, man. My mum said, we ain't got nothing nice to Don't say at all, man. Give us five-star. Hey, that's true. That's true. That is true. If it ain't five, then don't vote.
01:35:54
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Yeah, add an African accent on top of what I just said. alright and don't forget don't cry don't beg and don't blame the ref peace peace