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FROM STRASBOURG TO SACKED: The Failed BlueCo Experiment | Episode 23 | Don't Blame the Ref
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Is this the end of Chelsea Football Club as we know it? Just 106 days. That’s all Liam Rosenior got before the BlueCo axe swung once again. Today, we are breaking down the absolute carnage at Stamford Bridge. From the tactical breakdown that led to that humiliating Brighton defeat to the reported "civil war" brewing in the dressing room—we’re asking the question everyone is afraid to answer: Is BlueCo’s £1.5 billion experiment officially a failure?
We dive deep into the timeline of chaos under Todd Boehly and Behdad Eghbali, exploring how a club that won the Champions League five years ago has become the laughingstock of the Premier League. 📉
Also on today’s show:
- United’s Paper Thin Walls: They beat Brentford 2-1, but was it a masterclass or a fluke? We analyze Benjamin Šeško’s impact and why Ten Hag still looks like a man on the edge.
- The Interim Era: Who on earth would take the Chelsea job now? We look at the shortlist (and why most managers are hitting 'decline').
- The Financial Fair Play Time Bomb: Is a points deduction inevitable for the Blues?
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Transcript
Introduction and Technical Issues
00:00:35
Speaker
Yo, don't cry, don't beg. Welcome to another episode of the Don't Blame the Ref podcast. Back again another episode. So I think I've just repeated myself, bro. You can tell tired already, bro. It's almost coming up to midnight. We've had some issues, man. We've had some issues. We've been trying to set up for at least an hour and a half now. you're going to get what you're going to get.
00:01:03
Speaker
Trust me. No, I'm in the OT. Eman might not even be at Stafford Bridge.
Chelsea's Performance Woes
00:01:09
Speaker
It's just, you'll see what, you'll get what you get. Hey, the way Chelsea are performing, you're going to get what you get.
00:01:15
Speaker
That man don't care. Why should I care? Bro, you know what? True. That's that a good point. we got I think we're going to have a lot to say about Chelsea today, but in the red corner, you got me, Dom.
00:01:28
Speaker
In the blue corner, you got me, Eman. And not Resigno. yeah Ding dong, the witch is dead. does matter you've You've had you've got two of the moments so already
Management and Ownership Criticism
00:01:40
Speaker
this season. One with this guy. It's mad.
00:01:47
Speaker
Chelsea have always been mad, but this is this is this is even worse than Abramovich. When these men came in, they were like, oh, Abramovich is this, Abramovich is that. Chelsea's not run properly.
00:02:00
Speaker
And they've just been even more of a mess. They have been an utter and absolute shambolic institution. Just the way they're running everything has just been an absolute mess, mess, mess, mess. And there still seems to be a lack of accountability.
00:02:20
Speaker
A lack of accountability. If I'm, let's say I'm the director of a department, yeah, and I keep managing, I keep i keep hiring this manager these five different managers in two years and the department's messed up, the finances are messed up, the staff is messed up, the product is messed up.
00:02:39
Speaker
Customers are coming because liking their service. Full tickets are selling. You think I'm going to be a job? Why are these guys still in a job? It's crazy. Because who's governing them?
00:02:52
Speaker
They're the governors. That is them. Who's going to tell them to leave? They'll be
Coaching and Tactical Critiques
00:02:58
Speaker
sacking themselves. that like like this is That's what I'm saying. The thing about football ownership here is as much as you beg and plead for what you want, like fans can do as many protests, bro. These are global, multi-million, even billion organisations. If you don't go, well, someone else is getting your seat.
00:03:18
Speaker
If you go stand up there protest, it doesn't matter. as As you're protesting, people are walking into the club shop buying new new shirts, bro. It's the whole thing mash up, bro. Even the whole thing of like, bro, people are turning up to protest wearing this season's kit.
00:03:34
Speaker
You already bought it. You've already given them the money. You've already got pre-orders for next kit. The direct debit of the season tickets come out your your account already. everything Everything's already messed.
00:03:45
Speaker
It's already messed up. yeah how As you can see, it's going to be leaning a lot more heavy to Chelsea, but I think we have to do it a bit more of a structured So lets let's just let's just start from the genesis of we're senior let's Let's start with him.
00:04:03
Speaker
Oh, Rosinia, my boy. Rosinia. So I've been watching this. I've been watching this, Donny, yeah? Strasbourg, yeah? And one thing I've always hated was the way he uses his goalkeepers.
00:04:17
Speaker
hate I've always hated it. It's like this over-exaggeration and just micro-focus on getting the goalkeeper involved in play consistently. And it's just a bit too much for me. And thing he was kind of doing is pulling the goalkeeper as like a centre-back. He would literally come outfield and be another centre-back and then he would try to control possession that way. Yeah, for me, hey, that is woke nonsense. I can't lie to you. that All of that is utter nonsense. I don't even want to hear it. i don't want to see it. So, cool. My man coming in, I'm thinking, he's done okay with them. Like, he's done okay. you know what happened, actually? He joined that club. I'll tell you exactly what happened. I remember, I remember.
00:04:58
Speaker
When he joined that club, he started doing all this tiki-taka, possession, possession, possession. I swear to you, bro, 10 games in, he threw it all in the bin, sat deep and counted.
00:05:09
Speaker
Because he had a 6'4 fast striker and in new yeah and he knew the only way to get this team up the pitch is utilise play it behind, play it to chest. yeah He did that after 10 games.
00:05:21
Speaker
Cool.
00:05:23
Speaker
He's coming to Chelsea now. The decision to even bring Manning to Chelsea is mad itself. In the sense that he hasn't really done anything as outstanding. And you've got people... as basically did they He did his foundation here at Strasbourg.
00:05:39
Speaker
ah then And then got got to do is the masters. Then got put shit into masters. Didn't even do the degree. but but But everyone had a feeling it was too early. Loads of people had a feeling it was too early, yeah?
00:05:51
Speaker
But it's also a stature thing. let let Let's be honest. Even if my man's a good coach, yeah? Even if he's a good coach. And some people say, oh, Chelsea don't have enough leaders. But let's be honest, yeah? You've got squad that have won the Club World Cup. Whatever you think of the competition. They beat PSG in the final.
00:06:08
Speaker
it It takes some sort of balls, yeah? You've got a World Cup winner. You've got Euros winner not in at left back. You've got Donny's that play for the big European teams all over the world.
00:06:20
Speaker
Vazinha doesn't have the clout. He doesn't have the clout. Like, and you could also say Mureska also didn't have the clout, but it worked. But what Mureska had in his favour was he spoke Spanish.
00:06:35
Speaker
no And the players that have been given the most, Vazinha, the biggest troubles are the ones that speak Portuguese or Spanish. so They didn't want him gone as well, but the reaction since Mureska has been gone, they they were not happy with that.
00:06:49
Speaker
They were not happy. They were not happy. And that, he was already, like, he was already on the back foot. And remember I said to you, i said to you, this will all be about whether he can get their respect.
00:07:00
Speaker
If he can get their respect, ah he'll be fine. But if he cannot get their respect, he's done. And it sounds simple, but I meant to emphasize how much of a thin line he's on.
00:07:13
Speaker
These men are... I always... I said it... I think it was episode 17, 16. I said, these men are on a thin... They're thin ice, mate. He's on thin ice from the beginning. He can't do anything wrong. The fans are ready to ban to him. The media is ready to ban to him. They don't like his personality. This is that. They think he talks too much. He came in on the wrong sort of angle, bro. The first clip before I've even seen him be in the dugout is football's about managing...
00:07:43
Speaker
players, because you're aging men and all this, and you're like, bro, come on, man. Really? really that's That's my first impression of you. and they never Bro, this is why they always say first impressions are so important, because my opinion of him never changed from that moment.
00:08:00
Speaker
it I've seen him as the same guy the whole time. and And they were discussing it like on TalkSport.
00:08:09
Speaker
Unfortunately, from that one clip... No one really gave him a chance. Nobody. And all everybody really and truly was waiting for it to to to fail. Let's be honest. The moment it started failing, pile-on started. The pile-on, pile-on, pile-on, pile-on.
00:08:25
Speaker
And I'll tell you when it turned left. you know Cool. The first few games we only lost to Arsenal. All the league games we won. we were playing all right. The football was definitely better. 100%. I'm not going to go back on my word there. The football was 110% better. We were moving the ball quicker. His ideas were good.
00:08:47
Speaker
They were good. And he's clearly a good coach. I'm not going to take that away from him. But where he messed up was, number one, forcing Sanchez to play short.
00:08:57
Speaker
Because we have seen in the last year, from January last year, Mureska told Sanchez, just kick long, bro. Because Mureska realised that Sanchez doesn't have the minerals for it.
00:09:08
Speaker
And when he makes one or two slight mistakes, it affects him. Okay, so Mureska cut that out of his game and what do you know? he became a confident, consistent, less nervous goalkeeper.
00:09:23
Speaker
Yeah, he made one or two mistakes still, but the mistakes definitely reduced. Yeah? Yeah. Cool. Vazinho comes in and starts to force him to play short. He makes one or two mistakes, then he starts to make goalkeeper mistakes, not just kicking, playing out mistakes, he makes goalkeeper mistakes because he's nervous. Yeah? Yeah.
00:09:41
Speaker
We lose to Arsenal because of him. All right, cool. And because of that, he thinks, oh, yeah, let's play Jorgensen. He's better with his feet.
00:09:52
Speaker
But you can't sacrifice feet. What's the goalkeeper's first job? This why I don't like all this woke nonsense. What's the goalkeeper's first job? It's save the ball. Why are we so obsessed with playing out and creating overloads in deep areas? Like, his first job is to save the ball. Choose the goalkeeper that's going to save the ball, save stop the ball from going into the net.
00:10:15
Speaker
And even, I would say, a lot of goalkeepers nowadays, they can play from the back, but it has to be very simple what you're asking your goalkeeper to do. You cannot be asking him to pay line-breaking passes from goalkeeping position when the spaces are closing down so quickly. has to be literally... I can pass it back to him. He takes a touch, passes it back, passes it to the next person. That has to be it.
00:10:37
Speaker
You can't be expecting them to hold the ball, wait, wait, wait, wait. Then they're literally the start of your move. Like, if they make a bad decision from that first pass, the press, then you've lost the ball. then there's just chance after chance. Then there's it's just, it's too much pressure on someone who's been playing football with their hands most of their life. it doesn't make sense.
00:11:01
Speaker
So for me, it's all about, I get what you're saying and you are right in a sense. But for me, it's more about look at the quality of the people you have and be honest about their quality.
00:11:12
Speaker
You know? Be honest about their cojones. Be honest about their mentality. Do they have the bottle for it? Edison has the bottle for it because he also has the skill for it.
00:11:24
Speaker
m Edison was crazy with the ball at his feet. Yeah. yeah so that's why Pep played like that, because he could. Do you think he's asking Donnarumma to do the same thing?
00:11:37
Speaker
No. He's not asking Donnarumma to do the same thing. I've seen Donnarumma sky the ball bare times. Because he's adjusted to the skill set of the players he has. And that's where the senior went wrong. The moment he put Jorgensen in that goal, considering Tottenham just gave us a quick ah a quick and quick guide on what not to do in a Champions League knockout game. And they put Kingsky in goal.
00:12:04
Speaker
hey The fact that my man that... and still went ahead with it. He's a crazy guy. So cool. we For 75 minutes, Chelsea were decent. he makes you made He made two to three mistakes in a row. Then he makes them big blinder and then causes us to go f three two down from there.
00:12:23
Speaker
We could have managed the game better, but from there, the team's confidence is short. We end up losing 5-2. Cool. and i got And I got an inkling from the post-match words of the players.
00:12:35
Speaker
I think it was Rosinha that was telling them to continue to press high, and they thought it was best to sit deep. There now, there's already a disconnect forming between what the players think this should be happening and what the senior thinks should be happening. Hey, that's up. From there...
00:12:52
Speaker
they started to lose confidence in him and you could see their effort with every game, their effort after. We didn't win a game after that, which tells you exactly what happened. The thing with Rossignor, because of his temperament, temperism, what was trying to say? His temperament.
00:13:09
Speaker
Yeah, and mannerisms. That's what I was trying to say. Ah, temperisms. temperisms. Temperament and mannerisms, yeah. The only way he would have gone...
00:13:21
Speaker
ah got into the players' heads would have been if his ideas on the pitch worked. That's it. That was his only one and one way to get the players onside. But if you're asking me to press, pressing is one of the most tiring things you can do on the football field. Even pressing for like 10-minute intervals.
00:13:43
Speaker
Bro, you're tired. Your legs are heavy. Now I've got the ball. Now I'm just tired. a hot at i don't have any... like A lot of these new age coaches are treating these players like androids.
00:13:54
Speaker
Bro, you can't press 24-7. Sometimes we need to take our foot off the gas. Even some of the best pressers we've seen in this league, whether it's Man City or Arsenal, they press high, but when they get the ball, they're very careful what they do with the ball. Some people say it's too conservative, whatever, but you can't ask me to press and then play fast.
00:14:13
Speaker
Press, play fast. Bro, that's Eric Ten Hag. That's what we were doing. By the time you get to the 30th minute, everyone's blowing. Everyone's tired. Everyone's tired. And then you have to take that momentum into the second half and do it over and over. Now you're 2-0 down. Now, bro, it's done. We're done. but It's enough. It's enough. And it's it's it's even more stupid.
00:14:34
Speaker
When he came in, he said word for word, verbatim, I'm not here to change everything and for it. If I change too much, the I risk the players getting injured.
00:14:47
Speaker
Yeah. That's what he said. That's what he said. So I would love to ask Rosinha, what changed, bro? Because something in you told you you knew better, but something in you, you decided to now change that.
00:15:02
Speaker
And you've decided to now ask the players to do things that you knew they weren't physically capable of. They didn't have a pre-season. They were already physically getting outrun by every team in the whole league, by the way. That's a crazy stat.
00:15:18
Speaker
Every team has outrun Chelsea this season. yeah So you already know we're not at physical peak condition. And you've already accepted that you run the risk of injuring the players if you try to change what they've been doing.
00:15:31
Speaker
Yeah? Cool. So we've done that. And then you changed it. Bro. The first 10 games or so, he he didn't change much. It was very Mureska-ish, but he just had the players closer together, combining Enzo, Chau Pedro lot closer together. um he had the full backs overlapping more, not all the time, but more.
00:15:55
Speaker
And it was a lot better. It was a lot more fluid. And there's something in you just went, yeah, i need to rip this whole whole thing up. I'm the man. It's almost as if he went, it's almost as if someone challenged him and he said, no, I'm the boss.
00:16:09
Speaker
That's what it's almost as if. I think that ever happened in the dressing room or he saw all the talk about him on, um in, or like, Hotspur or whatever the media has been saying. Yeah, and they went to his head and he said, watch, I'll show you, I'll show you. Because it's true. He didn't randomly just start changing what was happening. And it's just like,
00:16:28
Speaker
Bro, that's probably why the players started Crocodile as well. It's like, bro, we were doing something that was working. Now you're asking to do this rubbish and it's not working and you don't want to go back. And now and now you know someone probably like Enzo's gone, like, why don't we go back to what we were doing straight away? ba Friction. That's the one that lead. that that I'm not saying it was Enzo, but whoever whoever. No, but it's's it's's's it's place a group of them and it's probably Enzo that's leading that because he's not he was one of the most, ah he is obviously one of the most outspoken players in in in the group.
00:16:57
Speaker
And yeah, he lost them. He lost them. And considering that you did not win that PSG match and then in the return leg, you lost 3-0, you lost against against Newcastle.
00:17:09
Speaker
That's it. he had lost He completely lost the dressing room. And from that moment, he lost their
Graham Potter's Era and Challenges
00:17:15
Speaker
respect. And you know what? He's got to take that on the And he can't he can't hide he can't hide behind you know the chaos of Chelsea and the owners picking him when he when he wasn't ready. He has got to hold day his hand up and go, yeah, I messed up there.
00:17:33
Speaker
I chose, I made the wrong decisions. And ah and i And I think it was Alex Ferguson that said it or someone someone said it, but football management is 80% man management or 90% man management, 10% coaching.
00:17:50
Speaker
And he did not get the man management side wrong. He did not make the right He did not make the right decisions he did not guide he did not make the right tactical decisions. It just, yeah. it I feel sorry for him because it was a difficult position, but I also don't feel sorry for him because he could have just kept it simple. And he would have probably had the job a lot a lot longer than this.
00:18:10
Speaker
if i that sounds that That sounds like my my old manager, bro. He kept it simple. It's crazy. These new age managers are just moving at this. But yeah, so I think we've done a good deep dive Rasinho. Obviously, we started the pod when Maresco was in charge and you've had a lot to say about Maresco.
00:18:29
Speaker
um just for parry's sake I want to go back to the genesis of Blueco now so they've taken over after the whole Abramovich fiasco had to sell the club their first appointment was Graham Potter right hey I missed it yeah no was Graham Potter and that's after getting rid of a Champions League winning Thomas Tuchel yeah So they went and just got Graham Potter not even, i don't even rewrite history. Graham Potter was a rated manager in the Premier League.
00:19:09
Speaker
Before he got that Chelsea job, everyone was saying, oh, he just needs to take the step up, maybe Spurs. No one thought it was going to be Chelsea it straight away. They got the Chelsea job. And I think the way the way the English media works is we don't really have a lot of English managers managing the top clubs. That doesn't really happen.
00:19:28
Speaker
That doesn't happen at all, to be honest. like when you When you think about it, who was the last person to get like a last English manager to get a top job kind of thing? You're going back, back, back, back. yeah So when this happened, they went to champion it. So they were very lenient on him to start off. They gave him a lot of grace.
00:19:50
Speaker
fuck e ultimately that But bro, he was just in and over his head, man. Yeah. He couldn't manage the egos of the senior players. His tactics were weren't good enough. But what what did you think? of but like ah Just a quick summary of like the Graham Potter era.
00:20:10
Speaker
Okay. I think that that started okay. and um And I don't want to rewrite history. That started okay. There were a few decent, I think there was a Juventus 4-0 games in there somewhere. um But quickly, why what I realised is this guy's crazy.
00:20:32
Speaker
I think i saw standing at left wing back ah so i so give you that well i saw i so I saw certain Donnies just in in weird positions. And it's at that moment where I just i just tap out. like Remember I said that coaching is about putting your players in the best possible position.
00:20:53
Speaker
It is not about stroking your own ego and trying to force players to play your brand of football. Yeah. Nah, stop it, stop it, stop it.
00:21:05
Speaker
You will quickly lose players. You will quickly lose their buy-in if you continue to do that. It makes, you have to pick players that, there are certain personalities that play in other positions, that play in positions that are not their own.
00:21:20
Speaker
You can tell which personalities they are. The ones that are selfless, the ones that are humble, the ones that are... But a lot of a lot of football players think they're the best thing since Light Spread. Yeah. So you have to manage... You have to be. you kind of you yeah And this is key. You have to kind of be like that to get to that level.
00:21:37
Speaker
um Not always, but you a lot of people that get to that level are like that. So it's up to the manager's job to the manager to manage those egos. And and he he yeah he just started doing some things that just did not...
00:21:50
Speaker
and And even deeper than that, I don't think he knew how to train the team to peak fitness. Right. Because we were both... just as It's very similar to now, but do think a lot of what we see in now is because of the Club World Cup.
00:22:05
Speaker
Right. Plus, Moresca's team after January, he has a pattern of falling off after January. So, like, it happened at Leicester, it happened at Chelsea. So, it could be Moresca's training too, but focusing on Graham Potter, yeah, I don't, I, I, Bournemouth always had, not Bournemouth, Brighton always had, like, a 12-game period where they didn't win.
Manager Selection and Ownership Missteps
00:22:26
Speaker
If you look at every year Potter was there, there was always about 12 to 13 game period where they didn't win a single game or they'll win one game. Yeah, and the thing about managing a smaller club, no one's really going to care. No one cares. It's only when they buck a big team and they play well, then it's like, oh, look a great Potter. Oh, look a great Potter. These times you got smoked by Bournemouth.
00:22:51
Speaker
You got smoked by West Ham. And nobody cares. No one cares. No one cares. It's crazy. One of the main things about Blueco, yeah. Not even just Blueco, just football ownership.
00:23:03
Speaker
Cool, you can sign all the best players you want. If you don't get the man in the driving seat, right, you're wasting everyone's time. It doesn't matter. Not to say that, obviously, a great coach can take you up to a certain point.
00:23:17
Speaker
But then after that, that's when you need the quality of the players. But if you don't even have the thing at the beginning... it' you you're fighting a downhill battle, bro. You can give him world-class player after world-class player. It's just not going to work.
00:23:31
Speaker
So then, even with Graham Potter, they gave him a lot of grace, a lot of time. People were just waiting, like, bro, why haven't they sacked him yet? Why haven't they sacked him yet? Why haven't they sacked him yet? Until... They even took too long.
00:23:44
Speaker
They took way too long. And that should have been a signal of what's to come. And they were they're just obsessed with... I don't know. that It feels like they're obsessed with getting in coaches that are not ready-made. maybe Maybe it's a case of, oh, the ready-made ones have demands and their demands that... or and ready do they they they they they Coaches with clout want control and, ah you know, like Muresko winning Club World Cup and now asking for a centre-back. You know, they don't want... seems like an ego thing and they don't want managers like that. but and I think there was a conversation that was had with Tukul
00:24:23
Speaker
just before he got sacked. And I think that conversation shocked them. Because he probably walked in there and said, man don't know what the hell you're doing, bro. Whatever conversation they were trying to have, you try put them in their place.
00:24:36
Speaker
And since then, they were like, yeah, we're not having no one come and try and embarrass us like that again. We're getting a young manager who's just going to shut up and listen and do what we say. We're building on a project.
00:24:47
Speaker
We're treating football like American sports. They think all these young youths are draft picks and ah then we can trade up our young players and you sound more experience. No, man, it's not. Bro, there's a certain way things have to work in the football club but in order to be successful.
00:25:06
Speaker
think one of the worst things that happened to you guys was actually winning that Club World Cup and winning that Conference League because it gave them a false sense of security, like they were doing the right thing.
00:25:16
Speaker
But really, you guys kind of locked into a competition like Schumann in the first place. And in the Club World Cup, Muresko got right. What can you say? he he had the had a great plan and it worked.
00:25:28
Speaker
It's a cup competition. You never know what happen. Do you know how I knew we were doomed? How? they all those All those bloody directors took a picture standing there together with the Club World Cup in their hands.
00:25:44
Speaker
six directors and the owner just stood there with gleefully smiles as if they're the best thing since sliced bread. And then soon after, they increased their wage by 60%, 70%. That's
00:25:58
Speaker
that's what I'm saying, like... Dom, Dom, Dom. We are cooked. We are cooked, bro. I can't lie. I think your your situation... It's the worst I've ever seen. It's probably the worst out of everyone. Only because you can look at City, they got honours, but at least they want to win.
00:26:17
Speaker
Their thing is they want to win. Look at Newcastle. They're new owners. they want to They want to get better. They want to compete with the biggest clubs. FSG and all that kind of stuff with Liverpool, bro, they spent the money and they spent it allegedly
Recruitment and Academy Neglect
00:26:30
Speaker
correctly. They bought a lot of the right sort of players that they should have bought. It just hasn't worked out.
00:26:34
Speaker
They need to get the coach correct. Arsenal, bro, they spend money after the money after money. They're backing their manager. They're on the the brink of doing something. And Manchester United, bro, as much as I hate Ineos, we were even trending in that direction.
00:26:53
Speaker
They know they can't do their majesty that Manchester United. You can't. where We're an institution built on winning. Same thing with Chelsea. Where you guys have come from, just with Abramovich, the owners just before them.
00:27:06
Speaker
You should have just looked at what he was doing and said, well, that's what it takes to get this thing to work. But they just thought, we can come and do whatever the hell we want. But that that's not football, man.
00:27:20
Speaker
back back yeah back Back to present day, these yeah guys, they're just, yeah. And even look at the list of replacements that they've got lined up. yeah Who have you got lined up? Because i'm I'm not really clued on what's going on. The two names I keep hearing are Iroyola and, what's that other, Donny's name? um The Fulham coach.
00:27:46
Speaker
Oh, Michael Tilbaugh. Yeah, look at the calibre. Look at the calibre. And Marco Silva's a good coach in his own... Marco Silva's a good coach in his own right. Iva Ola is a good coach in their own right.
00:27:58
Speaker
But it's too much of a gamble at this point, surely. Surely surely you just want to go for somebody that has got the mileage, has got the years, has managed a big, big, big club already.
00:28:12
Speaker
Don't you want to go for something? Like, for me, for me, i'd be going out and getting um the ex-inter manager. What's his name? Inzaki. I'd be out to get Inzaki. Is he still in Saudi?
00:28:27
Speaker
Yeah. I'll go, mate, I'll go put a sack of, I'll put money in aset in a bag and I'll be going there like, bro, yeah, yeah, yeah, come and come and do this. Come and sort us out.
00:28:38
Speaker
Because that's a top coach. multiple league titles, Champions League finals. and With that team that he had, Champions League final, losing to City one no Yeah, that's a good coach, bro. And we're just messing around.
00:28:55
Speaker
Messing around with guys that Abramovich wouldn't have touched with a hole, mate. Abramovich, if someone suggested that in a room to Abramovich, Abramovich would have fired them on the spot.
00:29:07
Speaker
Like, what? yeah We don't do that here. We don't do that here. Bravovic would have figured out way of getting like Zidane to work. He would have figured out a way. Bro! Bro! He would have gone to him in person and said to him, what do you need? I'll give it to you.
00:29:26
Speaker
I'll give it to you. I will fan every French player. Any French player you want. I'll fan. You want Mbappe? You want Mbappe? Yeah, let me know you want him. I'll get him. You want me to get Kante? You want me to get Pogba? Who do you do want? I'll sign everyone.
00:29:39
Speaker
He would have made it work. But that's all only who's just interested in winning. He don't care about nothing else other than winning. and And you know what, Dom? I'm not too opposed to making us more sustainable because what Abramovich was doing wasn't sustainable. That's the truth. yeah It wasn't sustainable. And he bankrolled us and he just splashed 1.5 billion. He didn't care. Cool.
00:30:02
Speaker
cool i not I am not against us buying young players. PSG won Champions League with the youngest team ever. It's possible. Like, if you buy good players, it doesn't matter what their age is.
00:30:14
Speaker
The problem is... the scale at which they've done it is just absolutely ridiculous. With no plan, with no coordination, with no plan of how to develop the players, with no plan of which manager would suit them, what style of player are we going for?
00:30:29
Speaker
Just absolute random. And you you can see it in the in the articles. This sporting director wants this player. This sporting director wants this player. It's like there they'll pick a mix. Oh, yeah, yeah, it's my turn, my turn, my turn. I'm going to grab this player, my turn, my turn.
00:30:47
Speaker
how can you How can you build any sort of coherent squad with that sort of structure, with five different decision makers? What? It don't make sense, Mo. It don't make sense.
00:30:58
Speaker
The five... this is Anyway, I'm done. Yeah. um No, sorry. I just wanted to move on to the point of what what needs to change in order for Chelsea to get to even a reasonable level level of competitive competitiveness because this whole blue car out thing, guys, to get a ownership and leave, that's that that one, I don't even know if you've ever seen that.
Investor Influence and Youth Talent
00:31:27
Speaker
Have you ever seen a club get an ownership out, not a manager? Because I can't think of it.
00:31:34
Speaker
So that one, that's a new battle that you lot are trying to fight. Manchester United... When we start going through a bad phase, they get the green and the yellow flags out, start swinging it around, thinking, like, that's going to do nothing. They ain't going to nothing, bro. Like, Spurs are about to get relegated and they still can't do anything about their guys, bro. Like... There's not much you can do in it, but... What immediate things could they do to start getting things right?
00:32:04
Speaker
So...
00:32:08
Speaker
I think there are two routes to real change. It's one that these guys figure out that, hey, we need to a recruit players that fit the requirements of the Premier League. that can We need to pick players that can compete in the Premier League. We need to pick players that can do things that are needed to succeed in the Premier League. So, yeah.
00:32:33
Speaker
Physical guys who can run for 90 minutes. Yeah, you need them. You need midfielders with legs. You need centre-backs that are fast and mobile. You need forwards that are fast and mobile. You need forwards that can, that have a bit more quality, that can cross, pass and shoot.
00:32:48
Speaker
Yeah, we don't have any of that, unfortunately. But the most important thing, our physical capacity to compete with these teams. Yeah, I spoke, that Bournemouth game today, Chelsea play that game, we lose.
00:32:59
Speaker
It's a fact. Because we do not have the physical capacity to keep up with them. The game, Bournemouth versus Arsenal, Chelsea lose that game too. chelsea who that came too because we just don't have it. We don't have it.
00:33:14
Speaker
So once they realize that and they start recruiting and start building a squad that's coherent in terms of increasing our average height. I know I'm obsessed with height, but it's just the truth. I'm sorry.
00:33:26
Speaker
I'm sorry. I can't keep getting scared at every set piece we have because Everton are going dunk on us because Arsenal are going to dunk on us. Like, it's crazy. It's insane. um The other route is...
00:33:39
Speaker
that it gets so bad that clean the the investors, not this Iqbali guy, the guys who sit behind Iqbali, who he's investing who is he he's taking ca control of the club, but those investors that put the money in, they just go yeah, the publicity of this Chelsea thing is crazy.
00:33:56
Speaker
And i think and i do think the fans I do think the fans can have an influence on that. And I do think they're making enough noise where the investors, I believe, i think at some point, it's four years in, by the way, at some point, they're going to start asking questions.
00:34:10
Speaker
and Don't get me wrong. I know it's ah it's it's a smaller part of their bigger portfolio. So I think they manage about $75 billion. in in money but and we're only about 4 billion spent but at some point somebody in that group is going to start saying hey guys does this investment make sense?
00:34:29
Speaker
Could the deposit publicity from this investment affect our other investment? does this public Is this publicity good publicity for Clear Lake as a whole? so ah Right they're going to be put in a new situation where cool you've already spent the money now you spent the money right?
00:34:47
Speaker
Cool Now you're potentially not getting Champions League football. Now you're having the issue of players wanting out as well. What is this summer and next summer going to look like?
00:34:57
Speaker
Are you going to move these players? Because people think, oh, these men are in eight-year contracts, so they're stuck. They can't go anywhere. a No, if a player kicks up a big enough fuss, as we saw this summer with Izak, Jokeres, how many players? Even Cesco, Bermatt. No, we thought was the another one.
00:35:15
Speaker
who if don't want to play I'll just kick up a fuss now you have to sell me like so they're they're going to be in a real tough situation when their best players and their biggest assets start looking at the door and the door can't open for new players so now what's the what's the state of your academy currently Who's next up?
00:35:39
Speaker
is Who's going next? Because Chelsea used to always have a someone, like something. if I'll tell you now. I'll tell you now. Under-15s, under-16s, they're coming.
00:35:50
Speaker
They just wanted to pick up, didn't they? Or something. Yeah. yeah I can't remember what was, but these guys are good. Now, it doesn't mean to say they're going to be Chelsea quality when they get to 18. I'm not saying that. yeah I'm not saying that at all.
00:36:04
Speaker
But what I'm saying is, is the opportunity cost. yeah Spending the 30, 40 million on the Desassies and the Gusto and the Hato, they're not worth it.
00:36:17
Speaker
They're not worth it. They're not worth the opportunity cost of building one of your own for free. And look at a Chengpong. He's in the first team, but he's not getting minutes.
00:36:31
Speaker
promise you, if they let this guy go, he's going to go elsewhere and he's going to be great. He's going to be great, God willing, without any injuries. Look at Gage now. He's about to, hurt God willing, win the league with City.
00:36:43
Speaker
You know? so And that's someone they deemed surplus to acquirements and they sold for 27 million. But I could have told you, the day they sold him, I could have told you, don't sell this guy.
00:36:56
Speaker
you are You are going to struggle to get the same quality as what you can achieve in your own academy. So there are still gems in there. we Look at um Rio.
00:37:07
Speaker
Rio at Liverpool. He's going to be a player. He's going to be a player. Was he at Chelsea or something? Was he at Chelsea? Yeah, he was at Chelsea for a few years. He's going to be a player. Look at the opportunity cost of spending 80 million on Mudrick.
00:37:23
Speaker
or being patient and saying, hey, we've got this young boy coming in the wings. We've got a few young boys on that left wing. Let's take our time. Let's take it easy. let's Let's play Hudson-Odoi there for the next two seasons or for one year. Let's see if we can integrate the younger ones that are they haven't had the same injuries Hudson-Odoi has had.
00:37:43
Speaker
And then we'll move Hudson-Odoi on. after we've we've platformed Hudson-Odoi and given them a chance to perform. And then maybe we can get more than two million than the two million age that they sold Hudson-Odoi for.
00:37:54
Speaker
But look, is Ganacho better than Hudson-Odoi? the Impossible. Is Gittins better than Hudson-Odoi? No way. Probably not.
00:38:06
Speaker
So, know me yeah, we've got... i don't i don't know if they'll ever realise. Maybe if the money runs out. I hope the money runs out. That's why I appreciate it. Chelsea's best every year was the year we got that transfer ban.
00:38:23
Speaker
And then Lampard came in. It was the best thing that could have happened to us, I promise miss you. And I was begging for a transfer ban for years before that. I was begging for it because I was tired of seeing us getting thelicage the the Higuains, the Eto'os, these just past it players that just can't just can't elevate the team.
00:38:43
Speaker
And you know what happened? Rhys James, Talibar, Mason Mount, um there's another one somewhere. but was like as to to to movie so so like a Well, Well, Solanke didn't get... was gone by then, I think. Loftus Tee.
00:39:01
Speaker
Loftus Tee. Yeah. Loftus Tee. Yeah. We won the Champions League with five, six academy players in the squad.
00:39:12
Speaker
That's unheard of, bro. Apart from, in Germany. But in England, it's unheard of. Yeah, yeah. It's not a thing that happens. Like, And i just I really hope for another band. I really hope for another band because we've still got some good players. We've got RKM, who's decent. um He's got great ball striking, but I'm not sure he's... Huh? i've given a room They've given them acronyms. Who the hell look is and and gun who thell is that?
00:39:45
Speaker
like a load that goo that that That guy plays with his shorts bust low as well. So it's pissing off. Yeah, get him out of here, get him, get him out of here, man. I'm already against him. What's his name? RKM. Let me create my burnout so can start sending some crazy stuff.
00:40:04
Speaker
Oh, man. And then we've got Reggie Walsh. We've got... Not Lightning McQueen. Oh, yeah. Yeah, bro. He's got a bad boy name. He's got a marketable name. Trust me. Trust me. Yeah. yeah for But but hes look look, he's decent. I'm not saying he's a saving grace. He's decent. i I think Rio is better. But we've lost him. Yeah?
00:40:28
Speaker
um And then we' should we've got this striker, Mueca, who's... ah He is mustard. In my opinion, he's mustard. And he should be alone either at Prem or Championship Club or people or or having substituted appearances.
00:40:42
Speaker
Just trust the youth, man. Just trust the youth. We've got some guys in there. I hope we get a band or I hope they run out of money and we have to and we're forced to use our youth players, man. I really hope. like We'll be much better off. We'll be a much better squad and we play much better football.
00:40:59
Speaker
and So, yeah, I think that's a good deep dive onto Chelsea-Blue Coast situation. i know there was a don even a game today, the Man United versus Brentford game.
00:41:11
Speaker
Chelsea are through in the f FA Cup against Leeds. They're through to the... Is it the final? Yeah, you're through to the final, right? Yeah, yeah, Against Man City. um Quickly, how do you think?
00:41:23
Speaker
Did you see that Brighton match? The Brighton match? Yeah, No, no, they I didn't watch any football.
Recent Matches and Fan Discontent
00:41:33
Speaker
Generally, like, I've been watching football a long time, 20 years. Oh, you mean the Chelsea-Brighton game?
00:41:38
Speaker
Yeah, Chelsea-Brighton. The midweek one? Yeah, so so me do me yeah, yeah. else. Midweek, midweek. I've genuinely, like, I've watched football a long, long, long time and I genuinely have never seen a team throw in the towel like that.
00:41:50
Speaker
like so blatantly just throwing it out. Bro, it was bad. Like, I can't even explain to you how bad that was. That was so bad. and the And the difference in the performance between that and Leeds, I think, I don't know, bro. I don't know. when And considering Everton 3-0, they probably threw in the towel there as well, probably. like Yeah, the last couple of games, you guys weren't even scoring goals, bro. You guys were mailing it. and
00:42:22
Speaker
at that So at some point you've got ah some point you've gotta go, what the heck were these guys doing? Yeah, yeah. That's what I started to feel as well. It's good to get through to the final, but it leaves a sour taste in my mouth, I can't lie to you. You know what? Imagine you don't win the FA Cup.
00:42:43
Speaker
It's empty, bro. It's empty. And then they find you they somehow manage to weasel their way into another European competition and then you go end up winning the Europa League. And then now it still looks all not... Oh, that...
00:42:56
Speaker
another European trophy like that's it's you can see the narrative with it you can see the narrative with it and I generally they're saying they're going to change they're saying they're going to take time with the next manager decision they're going to review the squad and and choose players with better mentality and they're talking they're talking they're putting it through to all their journalists putting out all these words Yeah, well, let's see what you do in the summer. Let's see what you do in the summer because that's... Last year's summer was one of the worst transfer windows I've ever seen in my life. That transfer window was worse than Werner, Havertz and Pulisic.
00:43:38
Speaker
back That transfer window of the lap, Jao Pedro, Gittins, Garnaccio, that is worse than Havertz, Pulisic and Werner. 100%.
00:43:53
Speaker
Can you imagine? after winning ah hunt After winning a £100 million pound to summer tournament, you go and give the manager that? What? no but Bro, we had we had one bad one as well. I think we signed Hoyland, Onana and Mason Mount.
00:44:11
Speaker
Ooh! That one over the so I think that Ganache transfer was linked to Mount, man. It must be.
00:44:22
Speaker
It must be. Bro, it must be. Somebody called up and said, yo, remember what we did there? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's time to call him up, bro. Time to call Listen, his stocks are in the mud. So low. He's gone. He's gone. He was getting booed at the Chelsea game, at the Leeds-Chelsea match.
00:44:46
Speaker
He came on and started beside getting booed. Actually, no, he started. He started again. Yeah, he started. day was He was getting booed. After a while, them men were just like, yeah, enough. And the thing is, i used to go for two he doesn't have the grace of being from Carrington, um even though we signed him from Athletic Court. Nah, nah. He don't have the grace. These Chelsea men don't give a heck of a dime. Your new signing, the same way they would treat a 25-year-old new player,
00:45:15
Speaker
You're supposed to come in and make a difference now. You can't be chasing after your touch. Every decision you make is bad. They ain't got time for that, bro. You're on the chopping block, bro. He's gone. He's gone. He's gone. You better go back to Spain and try and get your lip back, bro, because this is getting dark.
00:45:34
Speaker
Did you watch the Skulls, Vicky Bart, that podcast? Who's who's in that podcast? No, it's Pat Paddy McGuinness as well.
00:45:45
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it. No, didn't want to say what were they talking about? um They were talking about Garnaccio. i saw a clip, though I don't want to paraphrase, but it was along the lines of like, they were really like just exposing Garnaccio's attitude at United and...
00:46:01
Speaker
How after a while he just thought too big of himself and um like he wouldn't listen to people. He would be rude to people and things like that. So yeah, when you get a chance, watch it. They yeah they were they were little they were really letting it rip, man.
00:46:20
Speaker
They were letting it rip. It's what it is, man.
00:46:27
Speaker
Yeah, sorry, my finger's gone completely mad. I don't know what happened to my son. just said but um Yeah, so I think, yeah, with United as well well, there's not really much to say. ah I can't be out to give a breakdown on that game because I was disgusting anyway.
00:46:45
Speaker
But it's just simply, we took our chances. we were we were good at the start. Then for the rest of that first half, we were fighting for our lives.
00:46:57
Speaker
yeah it was It was a really entertaining game. ah yeah And you know what I don't mind? ah feel like some people forget. Back in the day, there were good teams, you know. And you United didn't have it all their way. Chelsea didn't have it all their The other team would have chances. But you know what we had over there, man?
00:47:14
Speaker
We had better players. So more time, more often than not, we'd come out on top. So some these basketball games in the first half, that's what we grew up on, bro.
00:47:25
Speaker
That's like, it didn't happen all the time, but I'm saying that's what we grew up on. Yeah. You'd leave a first half going, are we two new up? But yeah, because we've got better players that can put the ball in the back of the net. But it was entertaining to watch. And then you don't you know what our teams, you know what our teams would do? do you know what Jose would do after that? Yep. Shut up, shut up. That's it. All done.
00:47:43
Speaker
Mm-hmm. They go into the end first half and then shut up, shut up. Cry right the back of the second half. What?
00:47:51
Speaker
Carrick is tapping into his inner Sir Alex world. Trust me. Trust me. This is real football. This is heritage football. And I'm all for
Player Mentality and Match Incidents
00:48:01
Speaker
it. It is. Get the results, man. We have objective to meet. I did say wins out of the three.
00:48:08
Speaker
That one was a bit close, though. That was a bit too close because they they really did bump you. No, but Amand should have scored the first minute of the game. After that Kobe Mane run, Maguire had signed and cleared off the line, but they also had better chances as well. That Thiago guy was just missing all day. He was on a junk team, man. Do you know what's so funny? If Amarin was our manager, he would have slapped a hat-trick easy. would have just done it, just for the sake of it.
00:48:39
Speaker
Because since that goal that he scored against us, share when that ball came flying over the top, left foot, top corner, first time, I said, yeah, this guy, this guy the sign wrong here. He ain't done that since, you know. He ain't scored no goals like that since. but yeah But yeah. What I will we say before we move on, um like I know Ahmed gets subbed off at halftime and you know he didn't have the best first half.
00:49:07
Speaker
But I like that Carrick tried him out on the left-hand side. I think that was really refreshing to see. And the goal where he goes, way that offside goal he takes where he's offside, but it's a great example of what a left-footed player can do from the left side. Running onto the ball, bang, straight into the corner, completely offside, I get it. But the point I was trying to make, the point I want emphasise on is that look at his mentality, e though.
00:49:31
Speaker
Look at it for that second goal. Look at where he picks up that ball. In the centre, he's the left winger. In the centre of the pitch, makeup making a slide tackle, winning the ball back straight into Bruno's path and then you guys score.
00:49:46
Speaker
That an elite... Bruno, Bruno. That at fifth is probably your... Yeah, go ahead, go ahead. go Before we talk about Bruno, yeah, that is the mentality of a pop player, man. Like, that is that is what I like to see.
00:50:01
Speaker
He's not caring about all the mistakes he's made. He's just working hard, working hard, working hard. Yeah? I said that about Ahmed a lot. feel like even when he's playing badly, he doesn't shirk his defensive responsibilities. He's always going to keep doing that. He's always going keep working hard.
00:50:17
Speaker
He's going to keep trying to do the right thing. But this season just hasn't been come off for him. No, but what was going to say is, Bruno, that was the right decision. Because Mbemo was free. I'm happy you didn't give it to him. Because that guy, that guy, he missed him.
00:50:32
Speaker
He's been getting me mad for the last couple of weeks. And if he would passed it to him, he would have just scuffed on his right foot the first time. Good. Give it to Sesco. That's proper composure. i i respect that.
00:50:44
Speaker
yeahhaley no One thing you know about Bruno, yeah, he'll pass the people who he trusts. If he don't trust you, he ain't passing to you, man. He's been watching them all day like, yay, look at belly. What is this guy What is this guy He's probably seeing them at lunchtime just good giving them bare side eye like, right.
00:51:06
Speaker
Bro, at least, at least, at least, at least, um, that's his second plate. That's his second plate, bro. And he's having dessert and cake and custard. Oh, my God. Man's bringing the pounded jam, the jellofe is bringing back.
00:51:20
Speaker
What are you doing? You're a poor bully, you know? Woman up in the microwave smelling up the whole canteen. The whole canteen smelling like shoot. Come on, man. Come on, man. Nah. Boy, you watch yourself, you know. Watch yourself. I'm...
00:51:38
Speaker
um um big hug Casemiro that was a performance big hug man man man needs to stop doing what he's doing why are you introducing everybody to a good time and man's leaving at the end of the season can't you know what you doing I think he's still trying to play for one more year you know I'm not going to lie I think he bro we're getting Champions League slightly slightly I can do a little bit. Yeah, maybe more. Yeah, I can do a little bit. He's pouring and he's grabbing his shirt and he's doing this. He's kissing the badge. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's doing something. I'm like, you're trying it. doing something. He's trying it. He wants to have one more conversation with them and I think he wouldn't even half his wages. I think now if they go to him, they'll be like, yeah, I'll half my wages. Let's just run the Champions League team.
00:52:26
Speaker
I think, you you know what, yeah? Actually, don't know. Nah, because he will be gone before the window closes, isn't it? But, um I mean, before the window opened. Like, I'm just thinking because don't think we're getting Elliot Anderson and then i think we're going to struggle to get three midfielders in.
00:52:45
Speaker
I wouldn't be surprised if they just said, when for when from Yeah, bro. from when It don't make sense because from when you're here and Ugarte's got to go, yeah, and you're already a midfielder light anyway.
00:52:56
Speaker
So Ugarte's got to go. Then you've got Mainu as really... Who else? Mainu and Casemiro as your two holding positions. Yeah, you're light. Yeah, Casemiro. We're not signing it free. We're not signing it free. we're going to have way more games this season.
00:53:13
Speaker
Yeah, catch what I was saying, man. All right, I can't lie. We're going to have to cut it there, man. Nice little short one. I don't blame the refs for a moment, but I did see a clip of a goalkeeper punching someone the chair. Spam. That was insane.
00:53:32
Speaker
so he got sent off from pushing someone, and then he chased them down and banged them in the face. I'm still trying to work out whether it was AI or not, because that's too mad. That's too mad. No, it looked real. It looked real. So but i think but what base grip is he pushes the guy, the but the guy like food like exaggerates Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then the ref gives him the red. And then he runs after the same guy that he just pushed and he bangs him in the face. He just banged him, bro. I've never seen that, you know. i use it No offense, but i usually see that in like South America, Denver. I don't even know where that was. I have no clue.
00:54:08
Speaker
I think was Second Division Spanish League. I'm sorry.
00:54:17
Speaker
My thing would be... Lesinia, I hate it. It had to be you, man. But you made some big mistakes, homie. You made some big mistakes and you you you bit off a little bit more than you can chew. And you know what, yeah?
00:54:35
Speaker
Just for the fact that you injured my star boy... you deserve to be sacked for the fact that you got that boy injured. Didn't I say to you, i said like, they've been every opportunity this guy's got is played Esteval.
00:54:51
Speaker
Like, what the heck? and Bro, yeah, I forget. Yeah, yeah. He deserved, just for that, he deserved a second. We've had about four five hamstring injuries um since he started trying to run them into the ground and making them do sprints mid-season. in the middle Like, bro, what are you doing? We're playing every three days. Why are you making them do sprints, bro?
00:55:15
Speaker
what are you doing what you like don't get wrong you do sprints but like you've got to manage the load bro like and you already know we we're physically hey get that guy out of here man get that guy out of here yeah man he was in it he was in the obvious head man but yeah anyway we're going to wrap up there um thanks for listening people obviously like share and subscribe comment on the drop some comments let us know what you think on who the next Chelsea appointment should be Let us know what you think about Manchester United's Champions League hopes, Chelsea's Champions League hopes.
00:55:53
Speaker
What's going on in like, bro, there's so much going on in football there's a big storyline coming to the end of the season with the title race well. Let us know what you think about that. And us know if you want us to talk about anything in particular as well coming towards the end of the season or over the summer as well. Absolutely.
00:56:10
Speaker
It's going to most probably be World Cup focus, but we can fit in time for other club stuff as well. so Yeah, most definitely. um Just before I... Sorry, I know it we're finished, but you've got thinking, who I want to be next Chelsea manager?
00:56:29
Speaker
I'm not too angry at Ivarola, but i do i would prefer that we went for Nizagi. if we if ah If we go for the name brand, I'd rather, I'd want us to go for Inzaghi.
00:56:42
Speaker
I think they give you Iriola and they bring you Alex Scott as well. So you get both of it you get both of your guys, innit? That's what happens. Enzo Fernandes is leaving, don't mind too much, man.
00:56:55
Speaker
um Then, I still think Glasner's a great coach. Look at how much Crystal Palace... Look at how much of a sinking ship it looked like. And look at all the chaos they had. And they've just stabilised. They've stabilised. They're playing their football again. They're going far in the Conference League. He's picking up wins here and there.
00:57:21
Speaker
Like, with the squad and quality of players he has, man, he's a good coach. He's a good coach. Honestly, I'm not mind. one's job in the Premier League's up for contention, is there? Like, there's no spots for it. Eddie Howe.
00:57:35
Speaker
If was Newcastle, I'd look at that. Oh, yeah, yeah. That makes sense. That makes sense. Oh, they try to go But they try to get Nzaghi. They're not. Bro, who's the owners? Where are they based? Are they Saudi owners?
00:57:50
Speaker
Yeah, but Nzaghi don't want to live Newcastle, bro. Yeah, you live in Newcastle. I'll get you a mansion. I'll send over some... Actually, I see can't even say want to say, man.
00:58:03
Speaker
I can't even say what I want to say. I know what Matt wants to say. Bro, cool down. Relax. Relax. Don't blame the ref off the doc. Subscribe to Patreon. You'll see him. Man said he wants to get him mmm. Like this.
00:58:25
Speaker
yeah
00:58:29
Speaker
Alright, cool man, we're getting delirious man. Alright, cool. Yo, don't cry, don't beg don't blame the ref. Peace. Peace, peace, peace.