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1990! You can Dance! If you want to!
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Josh and Tyler do a U-Turn and end up back in 1990 which is not as bad as it sounds. There will be some reminiscing, some dream producing and or course, dancing. But not really. 1990 was a change of a decade, out with the new wave and in with the dance revolution.
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Introduction and Setting the Stage
00:00:01
Speaker
Welcome back listeners. Welcome back to that TV sound. My name is Josh Downing. I'm your host and I'm here today with my special guest, Tyler. Hey Josh. So ah the year that we drew this year was 1990 and came ticker, which is something live, live show, live recording, whatever. But before we get into that, I'm going to ask you a question, the skill testing question.
1990 Music Production Preferences
00:00:28
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I know. Oh, nineteen ninety if you could produce an album. Oh my gosh. For any artist living or dead. Oh my gosh.
00:00:39
Speaker
Who would you produce? Produce. See, that's so fascinating because, you know, it's like, okay, well now it's like, well, what genre is it going to be? Right.
00:00:51
Speaker
Oh my gosh. Well, my favorite album of all time is Little Magnets by Transvision Vamp. And as much as every track is God and doesn't need to be touched, I think my actual answer is i wish I could have been a fly on the wall during that, during those sessions.
00:01:15
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um Because there's nothing that I would change. But I would just be so in awe having been able to witness that.
00:01:26
Speaker
um So I'm not answering your question, but that's my honest reaction. um I'm trying to think if there's an album where it's just like, oh, the production was bad, but the talent's there, you know, the songwriting's there, but it's just like, oh, who did you get this? You know what I mean?
00:01:47
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or or albums that just, they sound bad. You know what I mean? Like they sound tinny or, you know what mean? Like maybe maybe the production was actually okay, but the mastering was horrible. You know what I mean?
00:01:59
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um So to be honest, I don't have an answer, but I love the question. I'm sure I'll have an answer like an hour from now. What would be your answer?
Exploring Electronic Music Production
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See, so I didn't give myself time to think about my answer.
00:02:14
Speaker
So I'm trying to think right now. I'm like, well, who who would I like to produce? Whether it be like something new. I don't think I'd want to redo somebody's album. um But I'm trying to think like who would who would be fun to produce a record with.
00:02:30
Speaker
You know, i think would be really, really fun and interesting to produce with would be would be Lady Tron. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. I mean, once again, it's that they're so masterful, like sound is what they do, but it would be so fascinating to be to be involved in that process with them.
00:02:50
Speaker
I think like any electronic artist, I'm like, you, you or the producer must just have every sound catalogued in your brain.
00:03:01
Speaker
your it's a little different back in the day when it was just like well you had this keyboard i don't like the word synthesizers or you had this keyboard to make this album with so every song kind of sounds the same because you just had the money for the one keyboard right whereas now when it's just unlimited and electronic music can have just such incredible sound and production you know i think also i really envy remixers who are given the masters and told, please remix this for us.
The Art and Skill of Remixing
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you know I'm like, wow, what an opportunity. you know Here you are with the original and you can do whatever you want to it.
00:03:45
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You know what I mean? And some, like, I'm ah i'm a remix junkie, but some are just horrible. And others, I'm just like, wow, this is a whole new vision that is just incredible.
00:03:56
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You know, um some people really know how to take something and either just extend it and make it great or literally change it into something else where I'm just like, like, how did you even begin to create this incredible mix? You know? No.
00:04:14
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Like they added another layer of art to that piece of music. It already so beautiful. Yeah. I'm like, how, like, like, how do you listen to the original and go, Oh no, no, no, no. I know what I'm going to do.
00:04:26
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You know, like that's true talent, you know, unless it's crap, yeah but you know, usually it's not, but some people are just pros, you know?
00:04:37
Speaker
Oh, yeah. and I mean, and that's what they do, right? For so so many people, that's that's their livelihood is is, you know, creating that music level from music. Yeah. Which is really awesome.
00:04:50
Speaker
Very cool. Yeah, it's it's an interesting idea.
Producer's Role in Music Creation
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Speaker
And I think ah producing is hard because... you're really just kind of making sure that it's going to be it at its best without interrupting, you know, the, the artists piece of, you know, ah magic that they just did.
00:05:09
Speaker
And like, I'd love to think that, you know, every band is multi-talented and multi-instrumentalist and they come in and they just lay it all down. But So many of these producers are like, no, no, I'll play the guitar.
00:05:20
Speaker
you know No, no, i'll I'll show you how you should be playing the drums. It's like, oh, that kind of takes away from the, you know, fantasy of a lot of things, you know, but.
00:05:32
Speaker
But isn't that like the the director of a film to say, oh, I'll just do the part for you. Move over, Tom Cruise. I've got this. Yeah. It's like, oh, no, we're not here for that. Who's that producer in Vancouver, Bob Rock?
00:05:46
Speaker
Yep. You know, the one who who takes everybody's album and just blows it up into, like, stadium sound. yeah You know, you have to want that sound. But it's just like, you know, you know it's a Bob Rock production the minute the first chord strikes. You know, everybody's got their own sort of touch, you know, when it comes to like did they didn't he Didn't he put his magic on Eight Arms to Hold You, Brook Assault?
00:06:14
Speaker
Yes. I thought that was weird. i thought I love that album, though. Oh, no, there's no problem. I just kind of thought, like, who who approached who there? You know, I don't think they did a kick-ass album. They did kick-ass Okay, all right.
00:06:29
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Well, yeah, like Volcano Girls is is an incredible single. Yeah.
Life and Music Shifts in 1990
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um What year was that? we got I got to dig in my jar and find that year so we can talk about that album. That's probably 96. Oh, I thought I saw 96 in the jar. Okay, although i I'll work harder next time. It could be, well, I'm going to go with 96. If it's 97, then they got delayed somehow.
00:06:53
Speaker
All right, I'll figure it out. I'll rig the ah rig the years. Yeah. Right. In the meantime, let's let's kick it off today.
00:07:07
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You're listening to That TV Sound with your host, Josh Downing, a Gen X for Life podcast. I
00:07:17
Speaker
like the big explosion at the end. That's my favorite part. I like the radio, like come in London at the end. did you do your dear your or your yeah Yeah, I love those tunes. Those are really cool. Okay, so anyways, welcome back to that TV sound. I always have to think about what the name of the podcast is because they give them such weird names. And then I'm like, what the heck did I just do there?
00:07:38
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um So once again, I'm Josh and I'm here with Tyler and we're talking about the year 1990 with with a kicker of live. What do you got for me?
00:07:51
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What was going on in 1990? 1990, I had a job I didn't like, and the recession was pretty bad.
00:08:01
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um i was trying to get into Ryerson, and Ryerson was fighting me on that. um No, we don't want you your tens of thousands of dollars. Yeah. And music was...
00:08:15
Speaker
I just, you know, I was talking to a dear friend yesterday and I just casually said like every decade, it seemed like everything would change January 1st.
00:08:27
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You know, like the 50s was not the 40s, was not the 60s, not the 70s. Like it was always like just everything just seems to end New Year's Eve and you get a whole new life starting January 1st. And I just feel we haven't had that in a long time.
00:08:40
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But 1990 came. and flushed all those eighty s bands down the drain. They were gone. It was very hard on them. And it was like, it was just dance. It was just, you know, it's dance music, you know, until shoegazing kind of, which
Favorite Music Moments of 1990
00:09:00
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is an option of dance. Right. But it was just like a lot of my bands were suddenly struggling.
00:09:08
Speaker
you know and either compromising with slightly dance singles. It's like, oh, what are you doing, guys? you know Or you know going forward is normal, but it wasn't sounding current anymore.
00:09:25
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Because like it or not, it dance is all that anybody wanted. Now, um
00:09:34
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now there was some great stuff that year. ah For me, it's not as strong as 89, but has some killer stuff. And um I think Catterwall's Mana and Quail was my favorite song that year. And I loved it because the Dance Cave would actually play it for me. So it know was like, get out of my way, they're playing my song. you know that doesn't happen that often, you know, that you get to really, really enjoy something, you know, at like decibel 500. Exactly.
00:10:10
Speaker
But I do have a live story if we're talking live. Awesome. um And that was the Ramones and Deborah Harry and Tom Tom Club at Kingswood. Oh, nice. I just saw an article about how they're tearing down the sign.
00:10:31
Speaker
ah well that's fine yeah um i actually saw more bands there than i realized but i just i never liked that place at least it was covered you know for the plus with us with uh fair skin um but the cool thing was for that show was um Warner was going to let me go backstage and meet Debbie.
00:10:54
Speaker
So of course I'm thrilled about that. Never met her before. um, um I actually quite liked that Deaf, Dumb and Blonde album that she had at that time. They pulled a lot of singles off it, remixed a lot of it. It's it's it's it's an amazing album. like For all her solo stuff that was you know a little wonky. um Do you remember going to see her solo tour?
00:11:22
Speaker
um maybe 10 years ago where she was playing all the stuff from those solo albums. And I i just remember standing there and I would giggle each time she would start a song because I'm like, oh my God, she's going to play that song and that song. And it was literally all those Geiger inspired, you know, ah wonky singles along with a lot of great stuff. She did. But anyway, so the funny thing about this Kingswood show is you know, you go backstage, is outside.
00:11:57
Speaker
And the Warner rep, who was probably my age um at the time, He said, okay, just stand here until Debbie's ready and we'll bring you inside. Okay. So stand here with these two people. So I turn it's Ian Asprey, the singer of the cult and his girlfriend. I'm like, oh my God. Nice. So here, I worship the and I still like i worship theul and i still do and so you know i have everything i own everything, you know, seeing you so many times, bla blah, blah, blah. I'm like, how am I going to be cool right now? Right.
00:12:35
Speaker
So we talked. And the the funny thing is is, I give him credit because I'm sure he was thinking, oh God, you know, I got to stand here with this kid. He was probably thinking, why do, why does he have to stand outside? oh He was probably thinking you were some big producer. Oh, that's hilarious. Um,
00:12:53
Speaker
you know And I just remember thinking like he was a really good sport because you know he was just standing there with his girlfriend, I'm sure he'd be like, oh, whatever. But to have to stand there with a fan, you know what I mean? I'm sure he could have thought like, oh, deliver me. You know what I mean? But he was totally cool.
00:13:09
Speaker
And we talked about, we actually talked about the making of the Edie video. because I said, who did you find? And he said, Oh, actually her, my girlfriend. Right. So i'm like, Oh, this is really awesome. So we just talked about the eie video for a couple of minutes and all of a sudden we were in and, and Chris was there from Blondie too, which was cool.
00:13:30
Speaker
Cause I guess there were still a couple at that time. And, um, And so, yeah, I got to meet Deborah Harry and got great pictures taken and she signed a photo for me. And, you know, I'm always very kind and gracious. And then I get out because I don't want to ever be that guy who's just like, ah you know, I don't want to be here. of your time I'm already. Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking. Yeah.
00:13:56
Speaker
you know, thank you and goodbye. So and I made sure that I think that kid who, who let it all happen. But, um, I don't remember the Ramones were in the room, which means they probably weren't. I don't think Tom Tom club were in the room, which would have been pretty cool. Yeah.
00:14:11
Speaker
Um, who is that Tina and Tina? I can't remember. I can't think of the fellow's name. I feel bad. but anyway, it was a great show of course. And that was a great experience. And I have the picture. It's like right there actually. Nice.
00:14:26
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. We were both blonde.
00:14:31
Speaker
you know But that's, you know, again, i guess I'm 21 at that point. yeah And it's like life is amazing. Life is magic and life is great. And there's just unlimited...
00:14:42
Speaker
excitement and i get to do it all in this city that at the time i loved i don't love toronto anymore but you know i certainly loved it at the time and there was just always something exciting to look forward to you know and it was ah it was a great day and like 1990 was good for me there was still a lot of music and a lot of my bands were still active either coming off of last year's album or building up to like a 1991 album with singles and all the limiteds were still happening all those picture discs all those poster bags all those gate phones all still happening so collectorwise it was great you know the music was still fine but but there was change coming and you could really see it i feel in 1990 you know where all of a sudden everybody wants listen to delight you know nobody wanted to listen to the mission you know or the creatures it's like
00:15:34
Speaker
you know no we want to dance So it's just like, okay, so I'm not bashing Delight. But it's just that was that was the change. You know, I feel 1990 was when it was just all just, it's dance now, everybody deal with it. Yep, that's it. Before I jump into to
Dance Music Dominance in 1990
00:15:50
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my 1990, I just pulled up the the Billboard Top in yeah.
00:15:58
Speaker
And this supports your notes here because it's Roxette, it's Madonna with Vogue, it's Mariah Carey. was the last Sorry.
00:16:09
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Sorry, Madonna. Right. And Vogue. Oh, and Vogue? Yeah, the song. No, Vogue. Oh, Vogue. You know, Vogue, right? vogan Yeah, she was always late with everything.
00:16:20
Speaker
But also Hold On by On Vogue.
00:16:24
Speaker
And who else we got? Technotronic, Pump Up the Jam. Oh, my gosh. We sold so many of that 12-inch. Oh, my seriously. All around the world, Lisa Stansfield.
00:16:35
Speaker
Oh, yeah, yeah. Huge. Yeah. It was, yeah. um Rhythm Nation, Janet Jackson. Huge. But then here's ah here's a ah little treasure.
00:16:48
Speaker
Love Shack by the B-52s. Wasn't that 89? Yeah. I don't know. It's showing up in the the Billboard Top 100. That's weird. Very strange. As far as I know, it's an 89 single, but anyway.
00:17:01
Speaker
but It just probably didn't chart until 90. Maybe. um But lots more. There's ah George Michael, MC Hammer. oh Ugh. Janet Jackson. You couldn't escape MC Hammer. no you could not. like like Because the pants were so big, they just enveloped everybody.
00:17:23
Speaker
You know, like just like, but that's what I mean, right? like That was that was here to stay, you know. yep Black box with everybody, everybody. Yeah. So, yeah, there there was Paula Abdul, you know, it was it was a big dance music time.
00:17:39
Speaker
Huge. But I mean, those are all crossovers, too. Totally. They still were like versus chorus versus chorus. you know what mean? Like they were pop songs, but it was also dance, you know.
00:17:50
Speaker
Yeah, but very different. And like as like you were saying earlier, you know, a lot of the the stuff that I was listening to had either moved mainstream or or kind of
Personal Life Changes and Career Shift
00:18:00
Speaker
disappeared. Like Gary Newman was kind of out of favor.
00:18:03
Speaker
his His music hit kind of a ah stalemate and he was putting out stuff that even he doesn't even want to own up to. And because it was it was difficult. Like, how did you stay, you know, important when there was so much going on?
00:18:18
Speaker
i remember a human league put her an album that year and it just got slammed so hard because it's just a dated sound you know it's like why are you still putting out records i'm like ouch you know like yeah you know like the british press is brutal right and the thing of it is that album actually has a killer album track it should have been a single up anyway what album was that uh romantic sorry with a question mark roman romantic yeah romantic Maybe? I don't know. Danceable? I don't know.
00:18:55
Speaker
That's good. ah So once again, I was also transitional at this point in in my life. um I'd come back from Toronto. I was back in BC and Vancouver I had a career change. That's when i left the restaurant management business and went into clothing retail, joined Club Monaco. So now I was like, you know, swaggering around in nice new clothes. And, you know, it it just felt like it was a fresh start.
00:19:31
Speaker
Well, for sure. Completely new. And we got to play cool music in the stores. So that was really awesome. But it was it was very different. Right. Yeah. We were always playing like we would just make our own tapes and bring them into work and play them.
00:19:48
Speaker
What was the name of that kid who was so sweet that I wouldn't have met till 94? I don't know if he was your assistant manager or Do you know who did? Oh. he Was he my assistant manager on Queen Street?
00:20:05
Speaker
No, no, no. You were in Vancouver. Oh, in Vancouver. Yeah. Oh, I'm trying to remember. Was I on Robson Street? No, you were in the mall.
00:20:17
Speaker
Oh, I know who you're talking about. And of course, I can't remember his name now. and oh I know. I know. my God. He was such an amazing guy. He was Yeah, cannot remember his name. I can't really see his face, but, you know, he made an impression. oh he totally did. he said He was a character and a half. Yeah. Tall, thin.
00:20:38
Speaker
You could hear him a mile away. And and you had that horrible security back door. do you remember that? yes I used to laugh all the time because it was that... and and there I'm like, how can you listen to that a thousand times a day? and and and Jesus.
00:20:59
Speaker
Yeah, that was the old phase. Oh, my gosh. But my musical story... Before the internet. Well, before the internet. Before the internet changed everything.
00:21:10
Speaker
Just to put it in perspective as well, we didn't even have electronic scanners for our our cash registers. We had to type in all of the SKU codes manually. What? Really?
00:21:22
Speaker
Yeah, because when I was still on the Music Club Monaco on Robson Street, yeah I had to type in every single SKU number manually. You're kidding. Yeah. i I was so... we We did it so often that when we had our Boxing Day sale...
00:21:39
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I
Club Monaco Stories and Future Musicians
00:21:40
Speaker
jumped on one of the cash registers and I rang in like $25,000 worth of sweatshirts that day by myself. I knew every code pretty much by heart. Yeah, yeah. And I just i would just go, oh yeah, aubergine, you know, Club Monaco T sweatshirt, you know, and I knew all the color codes, ah everything. I could just type them in without even letting them know. is so interesting. They weren't scanning.
00:22:04
Speaker
Yeah, we didn't get scanners until I was at the Pacific Center location. And then that's when we got those little pens. Yeah. It never worked because everyone dropped them. The tip would break and now it couldn't scan anything. It would just scratch the the price ticket.
00:22:24
Speaker
I remember you guys had that system that was kind of like email before email. And I would ask you, like, how does that work? I don't get it. how How do they get that message? i don't understand.
00:22:35
Speaker
I don't know. was emailing people. Do you remember that? Yeah. Yeah. it was it It was like an internal messaging system or something. It fascinated me. I think it was just email. Oh, I don't know. just It was just early email. Maybe. Maybe. Yeah, guess. Yeah.
00:22:51
Speaker
Yeah. But yeah, that was that was a big change in my life. it it was It was a whole new career and changed my trajectory quite a bit. Changed your drinking patterns quite a bit. I do, totally. There was lots of parties. had lots of staff parties. But you know, that's what's really cool as well is while I was at the Club Monaco on Rob Street, I got to work Two of my employees were actually a very famous award-winning Canadian band.
00:23:22
Speaker
Oh, who that was hold on Moist. Yeah. Moist. Yeah. Yeah. ah David was one of my, one of my employees and his buddy Keith, who I think was in the band or maybe there was one of the managers of the band, but he also worked.
00:23:40
Speaker
They worked part time for me at Club Monaco. It was awesome. And he was amazing guys, like just so amazing. I've never understood like with all the can con,
00:23:51
Speaker
and you know how radio has to just keep playing the same five canadian songs forever for some reason moist never comes up no is that weird because it was so big like they were indie first you know and then you know I think it was Capital, EMI, Capital that picked them up.
00:24:11
Speaker
And then it was like, then that song charted and was huge. And it's like, well, how come that's not getting played all the time? Right. You know what I mean? When they're so desperate for CanCon, I'm like, well, is it held up in rights or something? Because I find that strange that I i don't hear that song like in the grocery store. Yeah, push it.
00:24:28
Speaker
Like, how come? You know, it's Canadian. You know, shouldn't you be playing It was huge. Yeah, yeah, really was. It really was. yeah have my Half my staff at Club Monaco were in the video.
00:24:39
Speaker
no I remember the video. Seriously. That's my staff. It was filmed there. Yeah, they didn't show up to work the next day. Yeah.
00:24:53
Speaker
No, it was really that was a, that was, I forgot it. That was a really cool period. um Yeah. So lots of fun. So yeah,
Concert Experiences and Depeche Mode Tour
00:25:01
Speaker
big change for me. But I think my, my musical story was that was Depeche Mode World Violator Tour.
00:25:10
Speaker
So I got to see this would have been my, I'm going count the love affair one because I just feel like I get to because it's it's my story in my bad memory. But so that would have been my third time seeing Depeche Mode. And this was big This was Pacific Coliseum. And so it was like a stadium show.
00:25:28
Speaker
And it was massive. And I just I remember very little. But I do remember walking into the Pacific Coliseum and walking past all the vendors and And everybody had those massive, like, I don't know big they were, like six by five posters of the band.
00:25:48
Speaker
Like just huge, massive posters. Yeah. yeah Where are you supposed to put that? I know, right? that's I kept looking at going, well, I don't have the money, but if I did have the money, I would definitely want that, but it's too big for any walls that I have. like They were just huge posters. those Those remind me of the ones that were always around London, England. like Each time a single came out, there'd be a poster campaign. And they they there'd be those incredibly huge posters. You know, in living here, i always wanted, i did get a couple, you know, but it's like, I can't do anything with them. They're too big. Yeah. I was always so envious of all that promotion that they would do back then. And those posters were, well, they were definitely amazing.
00:26:33
Speaker
they had to be minimum six feet tall yeah no no they were massive i just quiet people were carrying them around and i'm like how are you carrying them like they were i think they were selling tubes as well yeah that you could partially tuck it in to protect it but i was like that's just crazy ah but yeah and do you know what it very likely could have been stuff that they had brought over from the uk that totally makes sense like the print that would be so expensive yeah but they were they were expensive posters i i'm taking a wild guess that i think they were probably about 100 bucks oh my gosh why i was like yeah no i i'll just wait till the kmart gets at it for three nine nine but we'll just wait for the internet thank you It's coming, what everybody. The Who's Net? What? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's so funny. So, yeah, that, i it's a weird one, too, because I know I was at the concert, but I don't remember. so and it's probably because I was sitting way up and I could barely see anything. And um i i'm I'm sure I had a good time because I loved the band and it would have been ah an event. I don't even remember who I went with.
00:27:40
Speaker
I'd be like, did they play Get the Balance Right? And you would probably tell me, No. They don't play. No, they play personal Jesus 18 times. Yeah. Why is that the breakout song? Why does. don't know. Like, I like I'm not bashing the song, but it's like. No.
00:27:57
Speaker
Their career in North America is very strange to me. Like their success is very strange. And as much as it's the weird, it's kind of the cure. Like, like. for some reason the preppy crowd just jumped all over those bands and just the strangest singles just went to number one, you know? Right.
00:28:18
Speaker
and And they, that was, what was that their fourth album already? Maybe no, even more. One, two, three, four, five, six. It was their seventh album.
00:28:30
Speaker
Wow. Right. And then they finally took off yeah Yeah. And they had done such amazing work. Like Broken Frame was killer album. Like just incredible.
00:28:45
Speaker
Well, to me, they seemed like we're another one of those bands that were just going to always be here. And now it seems like they're not here. You know, and Dave's maybe a little rough, you know.
00:29:00
Speaker
and it's like, well, I guess when they lost that one member, maybe things took a turn. I don't know. Yeah, i I don't think they got the reception that they were hoping for in their last album that they just put out.
00:29:15
Speaker
Because they say they went long enough that they didn't really have to worry about anything. No. you know what I mean? But then all of a sudden it dropped after so long, you know? Yeah.
00:29:26
Speaker
So I feel bad when that happens for bands, you know? Yeah. I think for me, their their last three albums were not they were not stellar for me. They just didn't catch me.
00:29:39
Speaker
So I think that's probably what it was. Because I think they they toured Memento Mori, but i don't i don't I didn't go. Because also, too, for me, they're stadium bands now. And and I just don't like that love the stadium bands.
00:29:54
Speaker
right when the When the artist is a dot because I couldn't afford three grand for a you know floor ticket. Yeah. it's It's tough. It's challenging. it's too it's just It's too impersonal.
00:30:07
Speaker
you know i don't i don't well I like small venue shows. but Oh, so do I. you know if yeah if it has to be a big show, then of course you'll still go, but it's just it's just not the same. you know yeah I think that, like I said, i I never want to go back to the the the Budweiser Arena in Toronto. I just i don't like it.
00:30:29
Speaker
The sound isn't even great. I just think security-wise, that's a weird one, that everybody has to come and go over that one bridge. Yes. That's not great. There's no lifeboats.
00:30:46
Speaker
But what are they doing with that venue? Isn't it changing or is it just changing name? It's getting an upgrade. Okay. It's getting an upgrade. Yeah. I think it's it's got a new new name change and and a bit of an upgrade, which is fine. um It's, I mean, they've done a lot of work on it already.
00:31:03
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um especially like moving, they they sort of created this little um sort of an island of of vendors. And it looked like they were busy, but it's just, it's ah it's a crazy, crazy place. and I'm not a fot fan of the the sound that you get in those kind of outdoor arenas as well, because the sound just goes and it doesn't, there's no keeping it inside the arena.
00:31:29
Speaker
So it always sounds a little hollow. i did enjoy what i um I did enjoy Simple Minds, though. Yeah, that was a good show. its tough sell It was a good show. Yeah, and it's funny because um ah I remember you know seeing scalpers you know, as we were walking to that show because I don't go to small shows, I don't see scalpers. Right.
00:31:55
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And I remember thinking, but like, wait a minute, how can you have scalper tickets now? Because you know how you have to show your ticket on your phone yep and that ticket is like always active. Like it's always moving. It's not just a barcode that you scan. So I don't get what scalpers Like I'm talking about legit tickets, but i don't get now how a scalper can sell you anything.
00:32:19
Speaker
um Yeah, like what are they selling you? Like do they just transfer it to you from like their Ticketmaster account to you? like Yeah, i just because you can do that, right?
00:32:30
Speaker
You can do transfers or you can I think you can sell your ticket to somebody. But I wonder, like, because I don't really know. I haven't bought a scalper ticket since the 80s. But, like, i I don't know how, like, if the bots are getting better, like, if we're we're getting better at eliminating the bots. Like, I just wonder, like, are scalpers even selling legit tickets, you know?
00:32:52
Speaker
Well, you hear all those stories about all those kids that were ripped off for a Taylor Swift concert. That's sad, huh? you know that's adding Spending their parents' retirement money. Yeah, exactly. No tickets.
00:33:06
Speaker
Yeah. you know But then you know i like when I heard some clips where I was just like, oh, buyer beware. you know It's like it's row and they're 30 bucks each. like no you know And you're heartbroken because you got ripped off. Did you do not see that coming? like Some of the examples were a bit pathetic. you know But I sympathize.
00:33:29
Speaker
Yeah, totally. Well, there you go.
Economic Impacts and Music Format Changes
00:33:35
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1990. Was she even born yet? Probably not. No.
00:33:40
Speaker
Her wasn't yet. her bob wasn't one yeah Yeah, totally. So for me was a um barely memorable violator depeche mode to her um Great album. Love the band. i just, i for some reason, I, and I, I don't think I was like, you know, drunk or anything, but I just they don't have any sort of really good memories of that show.
00:34:07
Speaker
And 19, I know I was there. Oh, sorry. In 1990, like, even though the recession was making me cry, but I was working. um 45s were gone. it was the cassette single.
00:34:18
Speaker
I'm like, ew, ew, ew. I don't think I have any cassette singles. I might have two. i have a couple. you know The novelty of like either the sleeve was unique, you know but it just I just remember like all those record stores pulled out all their displayers to hold forty fives because it's like, they're gone, Canada, gone.
00:34:39
Speaker
so long live the gross cassette single, you know which never really did that well. No, no, because who wants to be changing cassettes all the time? Every three minutes. Right. I mean, OK, you still have change the record if you're playing like a seven. True, true. But but we were that was much more interesting because then you at least you had a little mini sleeve to look at.
00:35:01
Speaker
Yeah. Listening to the song. Yes. Right. OK. All right.
Music Trivia and Canadian Bands
00:35:08
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It is time to go to space for some Trivial Pursuit. Totally 80s. Oh, no. Music.
00:35:16
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i should fool you and and not do a music one, but I'm going to play it fair and I'll give you a music one first. What punk band didn't have to bribe anyone in order to win single of the year for Eyes of a Stranger at the 1983 Juno Awards?
00:35:33
Speaker
There's so much about that question that is hilarious. ah You know, the word punk, I get so cranky. You know what I mean? It's like, I love Blondie. They weren't punks. You know what i mean? Like, anyway, that sounds like it's the Paolas again.
00:35:50
Speaker
Ding, ding, ding. Of course it's the Paolas. And I didn't even realize that when I, when I flipped it over, i was like, Oh my God, it's your favorite Canadian band. Like the A in Paolas is the anarchy symbol. you know Totally. they' all Well, it was until they got signed. Yeah.
00:36:04
Speaker
That's so funny. That's hilarious. What band named after... oh sorry, I've got to do the sound effect now.
00:36:12
Speaker
What band named after a Canadian city sang the 1982 smash hit, Your Daddy Don't Know? You're go have to say that again. yeah I missed the first part. Oh, was that Toronto? Yeah.
00:36:28
Speaker
Yeah. The band named after a Canadian city. I just remember Eaton's in the cafe was across from the record department. yes They've just racked that Toronto album forever. I'm like, is there some kid working here who's just like, that's just his favorite record of all time. And we just have to have that record on display all the time forever.
00:36:52
Speaker
Yeah. It's probably still there. He's like, not only did Daddy not know, the band didn't know. The band's daddy didn't know. got a real fall of the beans.
00:37:06
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For $17.99. Exactly. That's that's killer. Okay. What nation's pop stars waxed Tears or Not Enough, a single to benefit Ethiopian famine relief?
00:37:18
Speaker
Oh, God. why the Is this the all-Canadian edition? i You know, i didn't think it was, but it could be. So go ahead. What was the question? what was the country? What nation? Yeah. What country? Canada. What country's pop stars? Yeah, it was Canada. ti lot Can you remember that video? Like Anne Murray standing beside like Loverboy, know, Bruce Coburn.
00:37:46
Speaker
God. just Moist. Actually, Moist probably wasn't there. know. that oh Anyway, i like again, great sentiment, but just very Canadian.
00:37:58
Speaker
So Canadian. it would have been if If it was done today, it would be who would it be? was going to say Barenaked Ladies, but... and well Yeah, they would probably find their way there.
00:38:12
Speaker
So is this an all-Canadian edition you're looking at? I don't think it is specifically. It doesn't say anything about that. That's three Canadian questions a row. Almost all the all the music ones look like Canadian, but other questions have nothing to do with Canada at all. That's that horrible CanCon sneaking into everything. Totally. 10% of your Trivial Pursuit card needs to be Canadian.
00:38:33
Speaker
Exactly.
00:38:36
Speaker
Okay, one more for you. All right. Canada. What Canadian synth pop band advanced their popularity with the 1985 single We Run?
00:38:53
Speaker
Strange Advance. The clue is in the question. like I'm i'm not i like, are they really giving it away in the question? That's so funny. It is Strange Advance.
00:39:04
Speaker
We're never a fan. no And there's a certain someone who might be listening, I don't know, who knows how much I hate that song. Like, just hate that song. Great callers. If you know how much he hates that song, leave a comment. There's only one person who knows the whole story. Anyway.
00:39:26
Speaker
love That is hilarious. Well, thank you for being our our one fan. We're really excited about that. And certainly say hi Really awesome. Anyway, so yeah, what was your song again? You got to tell me so I can write it down. It's going to go on my Spotify playlist. Oh, I love that you did that.
00:39:46
Speaker
a Manna and Quail by Catterwall. I think you already did that one. Because we've we've done 1990 before. Did we? Yeah, I think you picked that song.
00:39:59
Speaker
Oh, well, I'll give you another one. You have to give me another one. Okay, J'ai Vu by Niagara. Okay, I will figure that out. Cool. Cool. So those are going to go on the Spotify playlist if you're interested. So you can go to Spotify and look up that TV sound and you should be able find it. um Also, the links are all in my my social media as well.
Podcast Promotion and Social Media Engagement
00:40:20
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um It appears that my, the all, sorry, the, that TV sound, Instagram and threads are kind of taken off. There's some cool stuff happening. So check out. All right. Amazing time. Thank you so much, Tyler. We're going to say goodbye for now.
00:40:48
Speaker
Hey, you've been listening to That TV Sound with your host, Josh Downing. This podcast is produced and created by Josh Downing as part of the Gen X for Life Network. Look for more info on socials at the Gen X for Life podcast.
00:41:02
Speaker
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