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episode 005 - living with chronic illness + girl chat, with sydney mosshart

Wholeheartedly, Her - with Laura Pryor
Welcome back to the show, friends! Today's episode is one of our favorites. Today, Laura has some girly chat with her long-time friend, Sydney Mosshart. Sydney is 26 years old, works at her church and loves to bake, cook and try new coffee shops. Sydney and Laura chat about surviving private school together, how Sydney lives with a chronic illness and have some quality girl chat. You don't want to miss this fun-filled episode! Welcome back to Wholeheartedly, Her.  connect with Sydney on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sydastoria/ an OK burger review: https://www.instagram.com/anokburgerreview/ follow W,H on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wholeheartedlyher/  follow Laura on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/laurapryor__/  email wholeheartedlyherpodcast@gmail.com to ask a question or submit a request to be on the podcast!

Transcript

Speaker: Hello, hello, friends.

Speaker: Happy Wednesday and welcome back to the Wholeheartedly Her podcast.

Speaker: I'm your host, Laura Pryor, and today's episode is possibly one of my favorites ever.

Speaker: I mean, I've only done a few, but this is one of my favorite guests ever.

Speaker: My longest friend, Sydney, joined me for today's podcast, and we just talked about everything under the sun.

Speaker: Let me tell you a little bit about Sydney real quick.

Speaker: She is 26 years old and

Speaker: And she is currently an administrative assistant at her church.

Speaker: In her free time, she likes to cook, bake, and try new coffee shops.

Speaker: And you can pretty well always find her with a cold brew in hand.

Speaker: Not only did we talk about my new favorite place to find coffee, but

Speaker: We also chatted about surviving private school together, how Sydney lives with a chronic illness, and we just had some good old fashioned girl talk.

Speaker: So you don't want to miss this episode.

Speaker: It is so fun, chock full of laughter and sarcasm, and you get a little sneak peek into what we were like in high school and college.

Speaker: So grab your favorite drink, grab a seat at the table, and welcome back to the Wholeheartedly Her podcast.

Speaker: Hey everyone, welcome back to the podcast.

Speaker: My guest today is actually my oldest friend ever.

Speaker: Sydney and I have been friends since like, I don't know, like 2009 or 10.

Speaker: So it's going on like 13, 14 years.

Speaker: She and I went to middle school and high school together and she's like seen me at my best, seen me at my worst.

Speaker: all the fun stuff so I'm gonna go ahead and let Sydney take it away so Sydney welcome to the podcast thank you I am so excited to be honest I'm so excited we are we you're my oldest friend also wow wow that's so amazing I mean

Speaker: You said I've seen you at your worst and your best.

Speaker: That is the truth.

Speaker: I think one of my favorite memories of both of us is like junior senior prom or banquet for you.

Speaker: I know what you're going to say.

Speaker: And you let me do your makeup.

Speaker: Okay.

Speaker: I'm glad that's all you're saying about that day.

Speaker: really want to go into more okay I actually think one of the questions in the question box is what are your favorite memories with each other so you can tell the rest of that story later in the podcast okay okay okay I will I'll hold on to it but like that's such a fun memory like that was really fun boy crazy I know we listened to One Direction the whole time and Il Zolo oh my god

Speaker: When that was, for those who don't know, it's an Italian pop band.

Speaker: Yeah, I'll speak for myself, but like, I was such a dork.

Speaker: Oh, same.

Speaker: Okay, well, that's why we became friends.

Speaker: Yeah, I know.

Speaker: Because we both were dorks.

Speaker: We were both the dorks at a private school where no one else thought they were dorks, and we just, we were okay with that.

Speaker: I did not care.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: I didn't either.

Speaker: I, to this day, don't really care what people think of me, so.

Speaker: Exactly.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: It's all good, but I've seen you through middle school, high school, college.

Speaker: I was in your wedding.

Speaker: Now you're a mom.

Speaker: It's true.

Speaker: It's crazy.

Speaker: I'm so excited to be on your podcast.

Speaker: Me too.

Speaker: Tell us a little bit about yourself because I know you, but no one else does.

Speaker: Right, right, right.

Speaker: I feel like I'm kind of boring.

Speaker: No, you aren't.

Speaker: I work at my church.

Speaker: I'm not.

Speaker: I feel like it's boring, but I work at my church.

Speaker: We have a counseling department and I'm in charge of all of our kid and teen programming.

Speaker: So I joke with everyone that I get to do the fun stuff.

Speaker: I get to come up with like the crafts for the curriculum and plan the parties and plan, you know, the programming throughout the week, which is super fun.

Speaker: And then I also plan all of our special events.

Speaker: Fun.

Speaker: You're an event planner.

Speaker: I am, which is quite stressful.

Speaker: I never thought I would be one.

Speaker: It's fun.

Speaker: It's fun to see it all come together and see people enjoy it.

Speaker: So that's what I do for fun.

Speaker: I like to, I don't know, go try new coffee shops.

Speaker: Oh, same.

Speaker: Have you been to the Bradford house over on Classic?

Speaker: I have.

Speaker: It's so good.

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: We went there for Mother's Day brunch this past Sunday.

Speaker: It's so good.

Speaker: So...

Speaker: My chiropractor used to be like right by Bradford house.

Speaker: They literally every single week when I'd go to the chiropractor, I'd be like, time to treat myself to a chocolate croissant.

Speaker: Okay.

Speaker: Can you just, can you go in there and just get coffee?

Speaker: Oh yeah.

Speaker: Like in the morning, like during the, it's on my way to work.

Speaker: Oh, yeah.

Speaker: You can go in there.

Speaker: They make the best cappuccino, hands down.

Speaker: It's so good.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And the chocolate croissant.

Speaker: I mean, it's so good.

Speaker: It's so good.

Speaker: But yeah, I'll stop.

Speaker: It's really great.

Speaker: No, you don't have to.

Speaker: I love the Bradford House.

Speaker: Do you have any life updates?

Speaker: What's new in your life?

Speaker: I might go back to school.

Speaker: I'll just put it out there.

Speaker: Okay.

Speaker: Yeah, you're going back to school.

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: Now you're being held accountable.

Speaker: I don't, oh yeah, I am being held accountable.

Speaker: We're all holding my college.

Speaker: I don't have my undergrad yet.

Speaker: I am like a lifelong student.

Speaker: I've dabbled in a little bit of everything.

Speaker: So I just feel a little bit unfulfilled, I guess, maybe.

Speaker: And I'm,

Speaker: definitely stubborn in the sense where I'm like okay I've started this yes I don't have a degree to show for it yet but I'm like I want to finish it whether I mean I graduated high school like what eight years ago yeah because I'm 10 this year I was literally planning my high school reunion today I was like texting everyone in the group me I'm like I know we're going to talk about this later but

Speaker: some of my college experience wasn't the greatest due to some health issues.

Speaker: So that set me back a lot.

Speaker: But I'm just like, you know what, girl, you finish it.

Speaker: Also, not everyone has to have a college degree and no one has to finish a college degree in four years.

Speaker: This is true.

Speaker: There's no point in everyone being exactly the same because not everyone's life takes the exact same path.

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: So I don't know.

Speaker: I'm leaning towards strategic communications with an emphasis on social media marketing.

Speaker: I know.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: That was my degree.

Speaker: Well, it wasn't my exact degree, but it was pretty much my degree because OB doesn't have that exact degree.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Solely because I think it would –

Speaker: set me up to possibly be self-employed, which I'd really like to do and be able to work for different companies in the area.

Speaker: Well, because everyone, like if you are living in 2023 as a business or anything without a social media, you're dumb.

Speaker: Like you're just dumb.

Speaker: Because like I was reading somewhere and I think it was saying something about social media, like content creation being worth something in the dozens of millions of dollars currently, maybe billions.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: it's going to be worth like triple that in like five years.

Speaker: That's how much the market's booming because I mean, everyone, not everyone, but a lot of people are content creators.

Speaker: And that just, I mean, that's, that's easy money for brands to just be like, here, here's a free product or here's, you know, $500 make a post for us.

Speaker: Cause if they have enough followers and pays for itself.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: I mean, as much as I have like a love hate,

Speaker: relationship with social media yeah like maybe hey listen maybe that could be like the way you know how to balance I don't know you know well because I've talked about the toxic side of it right you know I've talked about before how I used to have like

Speaker: how I used to have like a social media like addiction like I used to and Instagram was like chronological and you actually could be caught up on posts oh yeah before I went to bed I would be caught up on every post every story I'd be scrolling like falling asleep scrolling because I had this like FOMO of I had to know what was going on in people's lives all the time and then I think it was it was not too long after we got married because I was like oh

Speaker: I'm a terrible human and I'm not present in my marriage.

Speaker: It wasn't that bad.

Speaker: I mean, it was pretty bad, but it wasn't to the point where I was causing marital issues.

Speaker: But I was just realizing instead of waking up and even just opening my Bible app or just doing something productive, the first thing I want to do is get on Instagram and just scroll and know what went on in the eight hours.

Speaker: Like what did I miss while I was asleep?

Speaker: Right.

Speaker: Overnight when everyone else was probably also asleep.

Speaker: when I went to bed the way I wanted to close my day was knowing what everyone was up to so I finally I think it was like the August or September after we got married I just finally turned off my notifications on my phone like I now have to like open the app to know yeah what my notifications are what's going on yeah right yeah so I have mine wasn't yeah I see where you're coming from

Speaker: I could care less what is going on in people's lives.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Mine was more like, how many likes can I get on this picture?

Speaker: And whenever I wouldn't get like a certain amount.

Speaker: Would you delete it?

Speaker: I wouldn't delete it, but I just, my like self-worth.

Speaker: It was like, okay, well, uh, last time I got like 130 likes this time, only like 40 people at my picture.

Speaker: Like I'm ugly.

Speaker: And that's so unhealthy.

Speaker: And now, now I'm like, I do not care.

Speaker: Like I'm posting this on my Instagram.

Speaker: Cause I just want it there.

Speaker: Like there's special photos to me.

Speaker: I'm not looking to impress anyone.

Speaker: Like I either a think it's funny.

Speaker: Cause I feel like I make stupid reels sometimes.

Speaker: I don't know.

Speaker: Like I just don't care now, but like six, seven years ago,

Speaker: I was probably like where you were at with like, ah, I need to know what everyone's doing every single hour, every single minute of the day.

Speaker: Like mine was more just like, not that many people liked my picture.

Speaker: Like it must be ugly or I don't know what I think.

Speaker: No, that's how I felt.

Speaker: And I would like delete a picture if it didn't get enough likes or whatever.

Speaker: When I went on my first mission trip to New York and we went to Broadway to see Wicked, like whatever picture I took at the theater, it got 100 likes.

Speaker: That was my first ever 100 plus liked picture.

Speaker: And after that, if I didn't get like 100 likes or at least close to it on a photo, I was like, oh, this is trash.

Speaker: Like I'm just leaving it.

Speaker: Like I would let other people decide.

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: Like what was worth being on my social media.

Speaker: And like looking back, I'm like, oh my gosh, I want to shake you because like this is the internet.

Speaker: It's fake.

Speaker: It's literally not even real.

Speaker: And it doesn't matter.

Speaker: But anyway, that's a whole other topic that I can literally talk for hours.

Speaker: Yeah, that is a whole other topic.

Speaker: But like, yeah, if you scrolled through the first 15 minutes of this, just know that social media is toxic and you should throw your phone out the window.

Speaker: Yeah, that's our that's our final consensus.

Speaker: Literally, even though we're both going to continue to use Instagram.

Speaker: Oh, absolutely.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: In a healthy way.

Speaker: Okay.

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: Clearly not a toxic way.

Speaker: We would never.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Okay.

Speaker: So go back and tell us because you kind of alluded to the fact recently that or recently, like literally three minutes ago.

Speaker: when you were talking about how you had some health issues, kind of talk about the beginning of those, like even because used to be like a ballerina, like your life took a complete 180 after this diagnosis.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: So I, I would say like, I was extremely active, like from when I started ballet, I guess, essentially to when I quit ballet, I did

Speaker: I danced for 12 years and I did classical Russian ballet and it was extremely strict and rigorous.

Speaker: And it was like my whole life, I'd say.

Speaker: And I quit my junior year of high school because my parents kind of posed the question to me like,

Speaker: are you wanting to continue ballet?

Speaker: Like, is that something you want to do like as a career, like looking to the future or are you wanting to go kind of, I guess the academic like route?

Speaker: And I was like, academics.

Speaker: And still sometimes I like kick myself.

Speaker: I don't have like a ton of regret and like sadness about it, but a little bit of sadness, if I'm going to be honest.

Speaker: Like if I look back and I'm like, why did you not just like finish to like your senior year?

Speaker: Like why didn't you dance two more years?

Speaker: But

Speaker: I really wanted to focus on my grades and getting scholarships into school.

Speaker: And so that is what I chose.

Speaker: I would say after I quit ballet, I wasn't like extremely active.

Speaker: Like I didn't find another outlet.

Speaker: So flash forward then to my freshman year and my

Speaker: I was on a full ride to school, the university I attended and I was, um, freshman year of college.

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: Freshman year of college.

Speaker: And I was on a full ride to the business school and things were all going good.

Speaker: So like, like leading up to some of my health issues, like I think back and like, what did you do to like, you know, like make your body hate you.

Speaker: Um, and so I finished my,

Speaker: freshman year and there was a lot of stress.

Speaker: I didn't really enjoy where I was going to school anymore, but I felt guilty because I was on this full ride and it was paying for everything, tuition, room and board.

Speaker: Like I was not having to pay anything, but then I'm like, I really do not enjoy what I'm studying at all.

Speaker: So it was this guilt of like, okay, do I stay here?

Speaker: And like,

Speaker: hate getting a business degree, but then like come out of college, like debt free.

Speaker: Cause this scholarship was specifically for a business degree.

Speaker: I couldn't, it couldn't go anywhere else.

Speaker: So I ended up leaving there and I transferred to OU, but towards the end of the

Speaker: September, the beginning of October, I woke up one morning and it felt like someone broke both my kneecaps.

Speaker: Like that's the only way I can like explain it.

Speaker: And I was like, what did I do like yesterday?

Speaker: And like, I couldn't think of anything, but like I could barely walk.

Speaker: Like it felt like someone like took a hammer and like bashed in both my kneecaps, but it just continued to get worse.

Speaker: And it almost like the aches and pains just like spread through my whole entire body.

Speaker: And I went to my doctor, like my primary care physician.

Speaker: And he like, I don't know.

Speaker: You know, he gave me some like, like naproxen or I don't, you know, like some generic, like pain med, like here, take it.

Speaker: And I'm like, okay, cool.

Speaker: But it like did nothing for me.

Speaker: Like I was still in so much pain.

Speaker: And so I ended up going to like my old pediatrician and he ran some labs and was like,

Speaker: oh, your inflammation markers are like off the chart.

Speaker: Like you need to go see probably a rheumatologist because I think you probably either have lupus or rheumatoid arthritis.

Speaker: Well, of course, then I'm like looking up like, what is lupus?

Speaker: And I'm like, I'm going to die.

Speaker: Like I'm dying.

Speaker: I was like, I'm really- Well, and rheumatoid arthritis is something you don't hear of unless you're like 80 years old either.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And at this point, school was out the window.

Speaker: Like I was in so much pain.

Speaker: Like-

Speaker: I could barely get to class because at the time I was commuting to Norman.

Speaker: So like, if I did not have the energy to like get out of bed, I was sure not going to be making a 45 minute drive to Norman to like be on campus all day long.

Speaker: It was terrible.

Speaker: This was a terrible time.

Speaker: And so flash words, six months later.

Speaker: from the initial breaking of the kneecaps, I guess we'll call it that.

Speaker: I finally got into a rheumatologist and they confirmed that I have rheumatoid arthritis and they, you know, I was crying.

Speaker: I was a mess.

Speaker: And they're like, you're okay.

Speaker: We're going to get you all fixed up.

Speaker: Fixed up.

Speaker: You can let everyone know I'm doing air quotes.

Speaker: Fixed up.

Speaker: Like,

Speaker: And, you know, here, take A, B, C, D, E, F, G, like all this medicine that also has all these side effects.

Speaker: So then of course they put me on like an extremely high dose of a steroid off the bat because that's like the quickest thing to get the inflammation and the pain under control.

Speaker: But I then gained like 30 pounds.

Speaker: I hated myself.

Speaker: I hated the way I looked.

Speaker: I remember Laura, this is when you first started out photography and you wanted to take pictures of me.

Speaker: And we took pictures at like overholster.

Speaker: Oh, I remember that.

Speaker: And I still have them, but I hate the way I look.

Speaker: Like still to this day, like I look at, I look at that past Sydney and I'm like, I hate the way you look.

Speaker: And I'm, it makes me sad that like in that moment, like I hated the way I look too, because of like all the weight I had gained.

Speaker: But now I know like that was not your fault.

Speaker: Like,

Speaker: You weren't inherently like unhealthy or you know what I mean?

Speaker: Like it was the medication.

Speaker: Like you had no control over that.

Speaker: I had no control over it.

Speaker: And it was the only thing at the time that was bringing me like relief from all the pain.

Speaker: I was okay on like the medication that they gave me for a little while for like a couple of years, I'd say.

Speaker: Um, I was okay ish.

Speaker: Since having RA, I would say I've never been like, oh yeah, I'm great.

Speaker: Like I feel great.

Speaker: Like I don't even know what normal feels like anymore.

Speaker: I just have days where I'm like, oh yeah, I'm like an intolerable amount of uncomfortableness.

Speaker: But in 2019, my doctor decided to prescribe me Humira, which is a biologic.

Speaker: And so I took Humira and I ended up having

Speaker: an extreme allergic reaction to it that quite literally almost killed me.

Speaker: I became like extremely, extremely, extremely sick.

Speaker: And I lost all that weight, like super fast.

Speaker: I lost like almost 20 pounds in like not even a month.

Speaker: And my body had gone into like complete ketosis.

Speaker: I couldn't even get out of bed.

Speaker: My parents ended up moving me back into their home because I like physically, like myself couldn't even get out of bed.

Speaker: And that's like the most humiliating thing as like a 22, 23 year old.

Speaker: I'm like, I should be like on my own doing my own thing.

Speaker: And now my mom's literally like having to help dress me in the morning.

Speaker: Cause I can barely move my body.

Speaker: my rheumatologist at the time was of no help.

Speaker: They were like very gaslighting.

Speaker: I had gone in to show them the initial allergic reaction I had before I was on my deathbed.

Speaker: And they're like, well, because didn't you like start breaking out like right off the bat?

Speaker: I did.

Speaker: I had like a super big, like allergic reaction on my thigh because that's where I gave myself the injection and it hurt and it like was bruising.

Speaker: And I'm like,

Speaker: this doesn't seem right.

Speaker: And so I went in and I had gotten sunburned that weekend.

Speaker: Cause I was like, I love the sun.

Speaker: And so I was like outside and my face had gotten a little sunburned and the PA that I spoke with, I never even got to see my doctor.

Speaker: Um, she was like, uh, well you're sunburned and that can't be helping anything.

Speaker: Like, that's all she said to me.

Speaker: She offered me no solutions.

Speaker: She told me that this is normal and that you probably need to stay out of the sun.

Speaker: And I left there crying.

Speaker: Isn't vitamin D like a natural...

Speaker: I mean, it's good for you.

Speaker: And hold on.

Speaker: I could go into a whole other tangent of why we get sunburned.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: It's due to the seed oils that we consume and put in our body.

Speaker: Anyway, literally, literally my other guest Ruth that I'm having on and a few episodes literally said those exact same words.

Speaker: Our episode is about living holistically.

Speaker: So I hope you listen to that.

Speaker: I will.

Speaker: I will listen because I will probably agree with like everything she says.

Speaker: Anyway, I had my mom go with me to that appointment because I was like, mom, you need to come and see how they don't listen to me.

Speaker: Every time I come in here and try to advocate for myself and I go in, I'd go in with a plan and be like, you're going to tell them this isn't working.

Speaker: But every time I would do that, they would shut me down.

Speaker: And so this particular appointment that I went to where the PA was like, don't get a sunburn.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: My mom looked at me and I was in tears because I felt so defeated.

Speaker: And my mom was like, you're never coming back here.

Speaker: And I'm like, I don't want to come back here.

Speaker: After that though, things just went really downhill because each time I take Humira, I would have like a bigger and bigger reaction until I got to like the point where my mom had to like take me to the emergency room and they're like, she's not okay.

Speaker: So

Speaker: Long, long story short, I ended up getting into another rheumatologist who is my current rheumatologist right now, and he's great.

Speaker: But my first appointment with him, I remember I took him like the list of all the medication I was taking and that I had taken thus far.

Speaker: And he's like, none of these work.

Speaker: Like, this is so old school.

Speaker: Like, this is so old school.

Speaker: Like, I don't prescribe any of this to my patients at all.

Speaker: So I've seen him, I think, since 2019.

Speaker: So going on like four years.

Speaker: Since then, I have taken a slew of medications, some that are quite scary.

Speaker: And I'm allergic to pretty much all of them.

Speaker: Love that for you.

Speaker: 95% of them.

Speaker: I had found a medication that worked for me last year around this time.

Speaker: But it has since thus quit working.

Speaker: So I'm kind of back now present day.

Speaker: I'm back to kind of like another square one.

Speaker: Like I literally only take a super low dose of prednisone, which is a steroid, but I like don't take a lot of it at all.

Speaker: Like at this point, I feel like it's like a placebo.

Speaker: Like I just take it because I think like it makes me feel good.

Speaker: You've changed your diet quite a bit though.

Speaker: And I'm sure that's helped.

Speaker: I have.

Speaker: I have.

Speaker: actually a new endeavor that I just started yesterday.

Speaker: So everyone can hold me accountable.

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: I'm going to go gluten free for a while because I've never done that.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And I am dealing with a super fun rash on my face right now.

Speaker: And all of the research I've done, the thing that works the best is going cutting gluten out until it resolves itself.

Speaker: Cause that seems to be what triggers it, that and stress.

Speaker: And I'm like, okay, well,

Speaker: I know I'm like, I think I manage my stress well, but maybe I don't.

Speaker: I don't know.

Speaker: So I have, there's just like certain foods that I'm like, you know, I'll either consciously make the choice and be like, yeah, I'm going to eat this and I know I'm going to feel like crap the next day.

Speaker: Or I'll just like choose, you know, like, nope.

Speaker: not gonna do it you know i'm honestly though if because you make like the best monster cookies i know for a fact how could you ever deprive yourself of those i know you can't it's the 80 20 lifestyle 80 that's what ruth said you guys are the same person i swear i

Speaker: am i actually like ruth in another body like pretty much yeah so i feel like that's what a lot of the more holistic leaning people that i follow on social media or that i know that's what they say it's like you can that's what kind of what i'm taking into parenthood like you can control as much as you can control like that 80 but there's this other 20 like even like you know once arthur you know goes to the kindergarten like

Speaker: In our diet in general, I probably won't really let him incorporate many food dyes into his diet just because I've not seen anything good about that.

Speaker: But when he goes to school, he's going to eat a cupcake with red 40 food dye in it.

Speaker: He's not going to die.

Speaker: He will be fine.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And that's just kind of the mindset that I have to keep.

Speaker: And I think that's a really healthy mindset for anyone, even if you aren't like focusing on like a specifically like healthy lifestyle, just in general, like there's like this 80% that we can control.

Speaker: There's just 20 other 20% that we just have to let go of.

Speaker: Oh yeah.

Speaker: Or that we just have to like not worry about.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And I had to, so I guess segueing into that, I do want to find a solution like for my RA.

Speaker: Cause I'm like,

Speaker: something happened in my life that like triggered this i want to get to like that root cause and like figure out like i don't want to be taking these like medications that are like could kill you like within 24 hours you know you're like oh wow okay like to make me feel better anytime like i would take a new medication i'd be like okay mom well

Speaker: call me in the morning yeah like make sure i'm alive and she's like don't say that and i'm like i could die within 24 hours she's like literally stop it and i'm like oh it's a side effect you know but and that's my coping mechanism of like joking um about it it is quite serious though and like i don't want to do this like the rest of my life like i want to find a solution so um anyway yeah

Speaker: Dang.

Speaker: What a wild journey you took us on.

Speaker: I know.

Speaker: I don't even know what I just talked about, but.

Speaker: It's perfect.

Speaker: Oh, on that note, before we stop talking about health and whatever, I actually do think you should hook up with Ruth, my friend Ruth.

Speaker: She's on Instagram at Ruth Spess.

Speaker: It's R-U-T-H-S-P-E-S-S.

Speaker: So like,

Speaker: I get sidebar for anyone who's confused.

Speaker: So Ruth was the guest I was supposed to have on during Sydney's episode, but we had some technological issues.

Speaker: And so Sydney is being a doll and stepping in, but Ruth is a holistic.

Speaker: What is her official title?

Speaker: Integrative health practitioner.

Speaker: and so she will be on an episode in the future but the reason I'm saying like oh Ruth said this is because we did record an episode but then we had some audio issues so like Ruth and Sydney are having so many of the same thoughts and it's really cracking me up so but actually you should go like she does free consultations you should get hooked up with her and she might actually I mean she doesn't like diagnose that's what she told me like she doesn't like have like no that was my thing I saw yeah when I saw like a few like clients when I first started out I'd be like

Speaker: have to be very careful with your language because you can't be like you can only suggest and like recommend you can't like prescribe because I feel like taking on other people's like issues is a whole other oh yeah yeah

Speaker: like oh if you get worse I will feel like it's my fault like literally reasons I would never want to be a therapist like more power to you if you're a therapist because I could never ever ever oh you truly could not pay me to be a therapist I know a lot of therapists make very good money or at least reasonable money and yeah like therapist I've been like sitting down talking with people oh yeah like physical therapist yeah whatever but like no like actually taking on people's mental problems no thank you

Speaker: Yeah, I always propose with the idea at my job if I would want to go back to school to go into counseling and I was like, I will be sitting there like sobbing with the people.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: I know I can really handle my own issues.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: I need to go to therapy myself.

Speaker: Oh, yeah.

Speaker: Talked about I think I was like the first episode when Kim and I were talking about like postpartum and stuff like that.

Speaker: Like, oh, man, I really could probably use therapy.

Speaker: I almost talk some stuff out.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: I almost started therapy earlier this year, like the thick of my postpartum depression.

Speaker: But then I got out of it.

Speaker: You did.

Speaker: Look at you.

Speaker: I don't think I'm like depressed or anything.

Speaker: Man, let's take it a turn.

Speaker: We're just having online therapy right now.

Speaker: We are.

Speaker: Laura, listen to my problems.

Speaker: I was just joking like, yeah, I'm just having a sad day.

Speaker: But I like to make myself sad.

Speaker: Honestly, sometimes it's way easier to do sad.

Speaker: I will listen to like sad music and I'll be like,

Speaker: Oh, see, I won't do that.

Speaker: I'm like so emo.

Speaker: I'm like, I'm going to like dress in all black today and listen to sad music.

Speaker: Oh, you really committed a bit.

Speaker: I do.

Speaker: I'm like, today's a sad day.

Speaker: And I'm like, I'm not a sad person.

Speaker: I'm a happy person.

Speaker: No, same.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: So like when I act like that, because it's me choosing, like I said, I choose.

Speaker: I'm like, I'm going to be sad today.

Speaker: Wah, wah.

Speaker: Yeah, I feel that.

Speaker: Are you okay?

Speaker: And I'm like, yeah, I'm okay.

Speaker: And they're like, you're not acting like yourself.

Speaker: And I'm like, just don't like talking.

Speaker: That was me yesterday at work.

Speaker: Sorry to all my coworkers if anyone listens to this.

Speaker: That's amazing.

Speaker: I was like, yeah, I don't really want to talk a lot today.

Speaker: And they're like, huh, that's really strange because –

Speaker: you love to talk shut up yeah truly okay well speaking of talking more let's get into these fun instagram questions um thank you for everyone who wrote in it wasn't many of you so i'm kind of offended wow well you know what we'll answer them yeah the best of our ability okay let's start off with an easy one well we kind of already answered this one or you did what do you both do for a living oh

Speaker: Yeah, I mean, I did.

Speaker: I'm a crafter.

Speaker: You really are.

Speaker: Truly.

Speaker: You're arts and crafts.

Speaker: My boyfriend told me because I joke.

Speaker: I'm like, guys, I just color.

Speaker: Is this a hard launch?

Speaker: No.

Speaker: Shut up.

Speaker: Can I keep this in the podcast?

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: I didn't think you were going to say anything.

Speaker: No, he just, I'm not saying his name.

Speaker: Okay.

Speaker: Perfect.

Speaker: We're private people.

Speaker: Perfect.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: What did Mr. Boyfriend call it the other day?

Speaker: He said, you need to call it.

Speaker: Oh, hold on.

Speaker: He called it like research and development.

Speaker: Research and development.

Speaker: I always tell people, I'm like, yeah, I do arts and crafts.

Speaker: And people are like, he's like, you can't say that.

Speaker: Say like research and development.

Speaker: Research and development.

Speaker: Because it sounds like much more, you know, like,

Speaker: Yeah, I do research and development.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah, anyway.

Speaker: So that's why... I do social media and public affairs for the state, so it's not as fun.

Speaker: That sounds fun.

Speaker: Kind of like Leslie Noping it a little bit.

Speaker: Truly, my boss's name is Leslie.

Speaker: Okay, so see.

Speaker: She's never seen Parks and Rec, and she's literally Leslie Knope.

Speaker: I've sent her, like, anytime I can respond to her in a GIF, I do it with a Leslie Knope GIF.

Speaker: Oh, yeah.

Speaker: So...

Speaker: yeah um okay how did we meet while we met through school that's easy we did i don't do you like remember how like though like specifically no i think it was in elementary though no we were at least in middle school i think i was in high school by the time we became friends okay because i don't know if you remember this um but like i left for like a year like halfway through fifth grade and i came back halfway through sixth grade weird

Speaker: That's a whole other situation, Laura.

Speaker: I don't think it's appropriate for the podcast.

Speaker: Oh, my gosh.

Speaker: Like something that happened in my class.

Speaker: Ooh.

Speaker: Tell me later.

Speaker: No, seriously.

Speaker: I will tell you later.

Speaker: But actually tell me later.

Speaker: And at the moment, I didn't know that's why my parents pulled me out.

Speaker: So...

Speaker: Um, okay, let's get, let's do a good one.

Speaker: Okay.

Speaker: Favorite memory with each other.

Speaker: You go first.

Speaker: Oh, no.

Speaker: Okay.

Speaker: Oh, there's so many, but I probably need to do the one that I alluded to earlier at the very beginning of all this.

Speaker: So at our school, they have this thing called junior senior banquet.

Speaker: And it's like very like,

Speaker: It's all the worst parts of prom.

Speaker: I actually... This is true.

Speaker: Like, there's no dancing.

Speaker: No, because it's private school, which a lot of private schools have regular prom.

Speaker: But I did enjoy junior-senior banquet.

Speaker: But looking back, I'm like, dang, we never had prom.

Speaker: So, anyways, continue.

Speaker: It's like a sit-down dinner, and the juniors put it on.

Speaker: Like, they hold it for the seniors, and they do, like, a skit.

Speaker: And, like... There's a big theme, and, like, everything is on theme.

Speaker: Yeah, it's, like, a different theme each year, which...

Speaker: whole other side note i never went to junior senior banquet oh i went to three of them because i was on the planning committee or when like the sophomores like would start planning for the next year because i was the teacher's pet and i wanted to be on the committee laura senior year it was your senior year because it was the pink dress let's not talk about that did i do your hair too

Speaker: Yeah, you did my hair and makeup.

Speaker: You were like at my house and like left there to go.

Speaker: Oh my, Laura.

Speaker: Well, because the event was literally at the event center in Bethany.

Speaker: How did I convince you to let me do your hair and makeup though?

Speaker: Because I had no other choice.

Speaker: I wasn't going to do it.

Speaker: Well, we already know that you're not a makeup girly.

Speaker: Like just in recent years, you've like kind of dabbled a little bit more.

Speaker: I barely know the difference between foundation and concealer.

Speaker: So.

Speaker: But still.

Speaker: So I was like, Laura, let me, let me do your hair and makeup for your senior, like junior senior banquet.

Speaker: And she let me, and I'd be like, no, you look so cute, but it's not like I was not a professional.

Speaker: Like,

Speaker: Well, I will also say like the year before my mom had literally paid for funny thing.

Speaker: My mom paid my grandmother's hairdresser to do my hair.

Speaker: If anyone wants an idea of how that went.

Speaker: But all the curls fell out because my hair was so, so, so, so long, like Pentecostal long.

Speaker: You had long hair.

Speaker: And so it couldn't hold curl.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: So then I told you, I was like, just put it up in a pretty bun.

Speaker: But I wanted some braids in it.

Speaker: And it was easy for someone like who knew what they're doing.

Speaker: But I didn't know what I was doing.

Speaker: Well, I don't know.

Speaker: I wouldn't say.

Speaker: But.

Speaker: Well, you have the ballet experience, so you do braids and buns.

Speaker: This is true.

Speaker: And so let's just say Laura had a really big crush on this guy at this time.

Speaker: Not the guy I'm married to, obviously.

Speaker: Not the guy she's married to.

Speaker: But I think we were both convinced she was going to marry this guy.

Speaker: Oh, for sure.

Speaker: Like, what?

Speaker: Oh, we were so, so stupid.

Speaker: But we were, like, so giddy the whole entire time because he texted you or called you.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: It was something insane and we, like, flipped out.

Speaker: He called me.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: he called me while we were i was getting ready and she's calling and i'm like oh my word laura he's gonna like propose to you i know and then he literally friend zoned me on the phone oh it was wh ile i was getting ready i went from like super giddy to crying off all my makeup yeah and i'm like laura it's okay you don't need no man like and then we just kept listening to one direction eating chocolate yeah

Speaker: Oh my word.

Speaker: That, I mean, that is such like a court memory to be quite honest.

Speaker: Like, I'm pretty sure I brought like a kitchen chair from like my parents' table, like into my room and you like sat in the middle of my room and I just like did my thing, like whatever that was, like trying to do my make, like your makeup and whatnot.

Speaker: So that was a good memory.

Speaker: That was a good one.

Speaker: My favorite is my 18th birthday and you were still the only friend that I had.

Speaker: And so we drove my very old car, which it wasn't even that old at the time, but I mean, that's a lie.

Speaker: It was over 10 years old and it had been a family car before.

Speaker: So it had some wear and tear on it.

Speaker: And I didn't know how to drive yet.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: So drove my car from Yukon into actually down the street from where I live now, go to Cheesecake Factory.

Speaker: And I thought that was like,

Speaker: hi we were we were on the open we were we were living large on the town yeah like yes yes and then we went to um the mall and then i think my mom had called me and she was like storms are coming like you have to come home i was like oh mom i'm an adult now you don't need to worry about me i

Speaker: 18 literally as we're driving back to yukon i swear a monsoon hit and we had to drive like five miles an hour because i could not see i was convinced the hail was going to come through my windshield like i was preparing to be my important savior that day you were freaking out like it was like the durential rain where like yeah like you cannot see where you're going yeah and also like neither of us like ever drove very far so we're like oh we're gonna die

Speaker: Yeah, driving from UConn to Oklahoma City was a big deal because usually I think we literally just drove to each other's houses and school and that was it.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Oh, my.

Speaker: No, so my actual – I guess my favorite memory, but the funniest memory looking back on was my freshman year of college, I –

Speaker: Early on, again, no friends.

Speaker: You were still my only friend, which is hilarious to me.

Speaker: And I remember – I don't remember how it came about, but my mom found out that we were texting while I was in chemistry class.

Speaker: What?

Speaker: Do you not remember this?

Speaker: Hold on.

Speaker: Keep telling it.

Speaker: Okay.

Speaker: My mom found out that I was texting you during the time that I was supposed to be in chemistry, in nursing chemistry, which was like my worst class by far.

Speaker: And she literally, without telling me, went to the phone company's website and blocked your number from my phone so I couldn't text you anymore.

Speaker: Bad influence.

Speaker: Truly.

Speaker: And I think she called your mom and tattled on you.

Speaker: Because that's what I was about to say.

Speaker: I was like, wait, didn't she tell my mom, can you please tell Sydney to quit texting Laura?

Speaker: She's in class and she needs to be concentrating on her grades.

Speaker: And I'm like, that's hilarious.

Speaker: Clearly our friendship has weathered all the storms.

Speaker: It has.

Speaker: Even when moms tried to break us apart.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Okay.

Speaker: What's another good one?

Speaker: Best TV shows to binge.

Speaker: Oh, great.

Speaker: Okay.

Speaker: Well, I have a confession.

Speaker: Top three.

Speaker: Okay.

Speaker: Well.

Speaker: What's your confession?

Speaker: Well, it's like for a year now, I've set this goal for myself and I've started at season one.

Speaker: Hold on.

Speaker: I need to look up how many seasons there are, but.

Speaker: I have religiously been watching Law & Order SVU.

Speaker: Oh, good Lord.

Speaker: There's like 800 seasons of that.

Speaker: Starting a year ago at this time.

Speaker: And there's 24 seasons.

Speaker: And I am now on season, I think, 23, 21.

Speaker: Okay.

Speaker: Oh, that's impressive.

Speaker: I am almost there.

Speaker: So...

Speaker: That has to be my number one because I have just like, I had never watched SCU before that.

Speaker: I don't know what prompted me a year ago to start watching it.

Speaker: I really don't know.

Speaker: I did though.

Speaker: And I just haven't stopped.

Speaker: Like, I know like there's just a pattern.

Speaker: Everyone is essentially the same, you know, but I just like, they're my family now.

Speaker: And I know all the terms.

Speaker: I'm very vigilant.

Speaker: I'm very vigilant.

Speaker: Because I know all the different scenarios that could happen to you.

Speaker: That would just have to be my number one.

Speaker: I don't know if you'd call it bingeable, though.

Speaker: Yeah, that's a lot.

Speaker: It is a lot.

Speaker: I'm thinking bingeable, like, you can watch in, like, a few weeks.

Speaker: Oh, okay.

Speaker: Like, mine would be The Office.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Okay.

Speaker: Well, I guess currently, because I think we only have two seasons, I'd have to say Abbott Elementary.

Speaker: Oh, is that good?

Speaker: Have you watched Abbott Elementary?

Speaker: No, I've got to watch it.

Speaker: It is so funny.

Speaker: It is like the office like style.

Speaker: The teachers know there's a camera crew at their elementary videoing for like some sort of like document.

Speaker: Like, what is the word?

Speaker: Documentary.

Speaker: I was calling it, I was going to call it a documentary.

Speaker: Anyway, so they do like lots of the funny like cuts.

Speaker: You know, like side interviews with like the different like teachers and stuff.

Speaker: It's really, really funny.

Speaker: I 100% recommend Abbott Elementary.

Speaker: Okay.

Speaker: Ian and I have talked about watching it, I think.

Speaker: It's good.

Speaker: I think you should.

Speaker: My second would probably be Bob's Burgers.

Speaker: Oh, Ian loves that show.

Speaker: I love Bob's Burgers.

Speaker: I've gone back and watched from season one like multiple times.

Speaker: I'll usually do that before they come out with like a new season.

Speaker: Third season.

Speaker: probably like the great british bake-off i don't do cooking shows it's so good it's just so cheery the british people in there i can't biscuits and cookies and tea cakes and sponges there's a reason we left britain soggy bottom the pie has a soggy bottom

Speaker: Was that British or like Australian?

Speaker: I have no idea.

Speaker: I feel like that's Australian.

Speaker: That is not British.

Speaker: I can't react since very well.

Speaker: Mine would be The Office.

Speaker: I want to say Friends, not even because it's that good of a show, but it's just like a very feel-good.

Speaker: It's not even like that great of a show, but it's just like a very feel-good show for me.

Speaker: Office, Friends, probably New Girl.

Speaker: Have you watched New Girl with Zooey Deschanel?

Speaker: I have.

Speaker: Okay.

Speaker: Yeah, I like it.

Speaker: It's funny.

Speaker: It's good.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: We're re-watching it right now.

Speaker: And then Ian said after we finish New Girl for the upteenth time, we have to watch a new show, which I hate.

Speaker: I hate watching new shows because I have to learn new characters and everything.

Speaker: I'm trying to think.

Speaker: Like, I'm not watching any

Speaker: I'm watching a new show, Laura, but it's a cooking show.

Speaker: It's called, like... I don't really actually know what it's called.

Speaker: Never mind.

Speaker: They basically have to, like, bid on their mystery, like, food boxes.

Speaker: They each get, like, a set.

Speaker: No, it's so funny.

Speaker: It's okay.

Speaker: We both are... We're best friends, but neither of us, like, like any of the same things.

Speaker: No.

Speaker: Like, remember, girl, like, I say, I remember frown up.

Speaker: Like...

Speaker: But literally, you'd listen to, like, One Direction.

Speaker: Like, on, like, the complete opposite guys.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: We'd be like, well, I'll always know Laura won't want to steal my guy because we, like, have a complete... Like, you would listen to One Direction.

Speaker: I would listen to K-Love.

Speaker: literally our secular christian music laura was the good secular heathen i was the crazy girl listening to one direction um okay tips for getting over a toxic x oh whoa okay i feel like how many toxic x is how we have

Speaker: um zero I don't feel like I've had a toxic ex but I feel like I could say like toxic just like guys in general yeah or like because I've experienced that we're people yeah yeah because I feel like I definitely have experienced like a handful of like just like toxic guys that just like string you along you know and you're like what are we like yeah I don't know feelings

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And I don't know that I've had a toxic ex, like really my only other ex or not only other ex, my only real like relationship that wasn't Ian, it wasn't even toxic.

Speaker: It was just like, why were you together?

Speaker: Like, why were we together?

Speaker: That was so stupid.

Speaker: And I think it was because kind of the same thing.

Speaker: Like he told me a month in like, oh, I'm going to marry you.

Speaker: And me like having never been in an actual relationship, I was like, oh yeah, okay.

Speaker: We're getting married.

Speaker: And just like never let that go.

Speaker: So it was just like stringing along.

Speaker: And then like come six months later, he was just like, yeah, I don't know if you're the one, but let's keep dating.

Speaker: I was like, no, no, no.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: No.

Speaker: So how did you go?

Speaker: We broke up.

Speaker: Like, did you already like lose feelings?

Speaker: Well, I was already, I already had a crush on Ian before he and I broke up.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: I had already moved on to Ian before he and I even.

Speaker: So that made it like,

Speaker: a little like less yeah yeah and I mean I tried to date other people before Ian I actually actually started going out but Ian was always yeah top tier in my head so well you know my one my one really toxic guy remember last year at this time oh yeah yeah yeah my birthday last year coming up that was your baby shower too that was my baby shower yeah

Speaker: It was your baby shower and there was this guy that I had been like talking to.

Speaker: And I hate that term, talking to.

Speaker: Like on and off again for like, oh my word, way too long.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And like looking back on it, I was like just there for like his convenience.

Speaker: Even though like I wanted it to be something so bad.

Speaker: It was never going to be that, but then he'd like,

Speaker: pop back into my life and like I'd get like another like little ounce of hope like okay like he's still interested and he had promised he's like because he lived like an hour or so away from me and he was like I'm gonna come up for your birthday and he did not he had thought the day before like the Friday because I think my birthday was on a Saturday yeah because your baby shot on a Saturday

Speaker: On Friday, he was like, oh my word, I'm so sorry.

Speaker: Happy birthday.

Speaker: I completely forgot.

Speaker: And I'm like, my birthday is not until tomorrow.

Speaker: And he's like, okay, okay, well, I'm going to probably like, I'll come up, like, I'll text you and let's do something.

Speaker: And I was like, over the moon.

Speaker: I was like, like, it was going to be like our second date, like second or third date.

Speaker: And I had been talking to this stupid guy for eight months.

Speaker: Oh, Laura, I was so dumb.

Speaker: But I just like- Your second date over eight months?

Speaker: Are you kidding me?

Speaker: No, I am not kidding you.

Speaker: But like how bad he was like stringing me along.

Speaker: And like how, ugh, I can't, I can't with myself.

Speaker: Like I look back on it and I'm like, how foolish were you?

Speaker: But after that point, I was just like, this guy is so stupid.

Speaker: one way to get over a toxic ex, block them, block them on everything, delete their phone number, like make it so you and they cannot reach out to you like ever again.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Because I feel like if you don't block them and there's like still that hurt and stuff there and you're like wanting to go back and be like, what are they doing?

Speaker: Like, do they have a new girlfriend now?

Speaker: You know, like, do they have a new boyfriend now?

Speaker: Like, what are they doing?

Speaker: No, don't, don't even like let yourself go there.

Speaker: So I got really mad and I was just like, he's never going to be able to contact me again.

Speaker: I just like.

Speaker: You showed him.

Speaker: I loved him on everything.

Speaker: And then of course I was a sad girl for a little bit, but then I went on a couple of dates with like other guys.

Speaker: They were not any better.

Speaker: There was the one guy I remember that was like, I'll be in contact with you.

Speaker: And I'm like.

Speaker: Yeah, like it was a freaking interview.

Speaker: What a great business deal.

Speaker: Cheerio.

Speaker: Like, goodbye.

Speaker: I'm never going to talk to you ever again.

Speaker: I'd say after that, you know, like, get back out there.

Speaker: Go on a couple dates just to kind of like, I don't know.

Speaker: Also, if we can just like

Speaker: What's the word?

Speaker: Like normalize in the freaking Bible Belt where people are like, oh, if you're not dating to marry, then that's pointless.

Speaker: You can go on dates.

Speaker: You can go on pointless dates and not be like, I'm going to marry this person on June 3rd, 2025.

Speaker: Any of the dates that I've gone on, like, okay, like this isn't just like a funsy, like I'm not playing around, you know, but it also like then helped me like know what I genuinely truly want.

Speaker: right each of those dates that like did not work out I'm like yeah now I know what like what I don't want you know what I mean like both people need to be on the same page like if you both just want to go on like a meaningless date just to like have each other's company and see where it goes great but like if one of them is like hey I want to be serious like I feel like you have always been with

Speaker: guys that you go out with like hey i'm not just like pointlessly dating i i'm dating like you know to be serious and then like oh yeah me too and then it's like that's a bunch and they're not yeah yeah yeah uh that's very frustrating and i don't even know if we've answered the question but

Speaker: Step one, block.

Speaker: Step two, put yourself back out there when you're ready.

Speaker: And also just like settle in your singleness because like maybe this is a time that you just need to like, this sounds so cliche and I hate it, but like focus on yourself.

Speaker: Like maybe there's something you need to be like working on in yourself, you know, before that right person comes along.

Speaker: And that's something that I wish I had done more.

Speaker: Like, obviously I love being married and I honestly hated like, or looking back, like I'm so glad I'm not in the dating field anymore.

Speaker: Like,

Speaker: More power to you because I hated – I did not like being single, but looking back, I wish I'd been more content and just focus on myself during my single time because that's how I feel now with Arthur.

Speaker: It's like, oh, man, I wish – obviously, I love being a mom, but it's like, man, I wish I had taken advantage of the just Ian and I time.

Speaker: like now that we have Arthur it's like man I really miss that like I was thinking back today I don't remember how it even popped in my brain I think it was because I was looking for clothes on a website that I haven't looked for clothes on since our honeymoon not that that sounds really weird and it was not it was for swimsuit reasons it's not for lingerie reasons people like

Speaker: get your mind out settle down but no I was looking for a swimsuit on this website that I have like had forgotten about since our honeymoon and I was just thinking like man like we were so young and in love and now looking back it's like dang we were just so not immature but it was just like we had so much ahead of us and I wish we had just been like very like content with just our very mundane lives yeah back then so yeah

Speaker: yeah i don't even know if you answered the question but i think we did yeah i did three points yeah like a good the good baptist pastor that you are yeah yes i am yep uh okay well now that we've been talking for like three hours um i know wow this has been great like yay

Speaker: I feel like this is going to be your most chaotic episode.

Speaker: Everyone loves a good girl chat.

Speaker: And that's what I've been wanting.

Speaker: You're my first not mom on the podcast.

Speaker: And while I love talking with moms.

Speaker: Well, I love talking with moms because that's kind of who like, obviously like who I resonate with right now.

Speaker: But like not even all our conversations have been about motherhood.

Speaker: But it's like good just to have girl chat and not even like think about kids or being adults or anything.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Because I'm, I have neither, I'm neither.

Speaker: I don't have a child.

Speaker: I barely feel like an adult.

Speaker: So before we go, ask everyone this question.

Speaker: What's a piece of your heart that you want everyone to leave with from this episode?

Speaker: Stay true to yourself, girl.

Speaker: I feel like this is so cheesy.

Speaker: Like, I don't know.

Speaker: That sounds so corny.

Speaker: We're just going to circle all the way back.

Speaker: Like you and I, we both have always been oddballs, but I feel like we didn't let like

Speaker: the pressures of like going to a private school and like fitting in like change us because it definitely could have I feel yeah because there was definitely a mold that people wanted to fit into there oh yeah and like if you're not wearing these clothes and if you're not looking like this and if you're not vacationing here like well you must be poor but like we came out pretty like unscathed like here we are I don't feel like either of us like

Speaker: changed who we were I think I did mature on some level I think we both matured we're still not like high-functioning adults but yes we have matured um

Speaker: maybe gotten a little bit better at makeup or fashion a little bit better, you know, but like, I don't buy my clothes at Mardell's anymore.

Speaker: I still remember this very specific shirt that says keep calm and trust God.

Speaker: I wore it at least once a week.

Speaker: It was from the Mardell's clearance section.

Speaker: And I love that shirt.

Speaker: Back on a serious note.

Speaker: Okay.

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: Like,

Speaker: remembering who you are in christ and just like be you that sounds so corny i i like that's just like that's what i strive to be like you know and i used to be so afraid to be myself yeah the world can say so many things about you but ultimately that it really doesn't matter i know that's easier said

Speaker: You know, like whenever maybe like a lot of stuff is like coming at you all at once that's negative or like doesn't feel very great.

Speaker: But ultimately, like there are people in each one of our lives that love us for who we are.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Like no matter who you are.

Speaker: And, you know, you just have to remember that and stay true to yourself, girl.

Speaker: Yay, I like that.

Speaker: Okay, well, before I let you go, where can we find you on Instagram so we can get your follower count up?

Speaker: Oh my goodness.

Speaker: It's at Sid Astoria.

Speaker: That's S-Y-D-A-S-T-O-R-I-A.

Speaker: Also, can I shout out my burger review?

Speaker: Yes, you and your boo review burgers in Oklahoma City.

Speaker: Will that reveal who the boyfriend is?

Speaker: I don't know.

Speaker: Yes, it will.

Speaker: That's only if people like... Yeah, so go follow her burger Instagram so you can find out the big secret boyfriend.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: It's also on Instagram.

Speaker: It's an okay burger review.

Speaker: You'll tag it.

Speaker: Yeah, I'll leave it in the description.

Speaker: It's cheesy.

Speaker: We both enjoy cheeseburgers.

Speaker: So... Cheesy.

Speaker: We're, you know, we're just two okay people.

Speaker: So, yeah, I mean, not a lot has gone on there within a month because our lives have been busy.

Speaker: Our issue is we go and eat a lot of burgers and then we wait too long and they're like, oh.

Speaker: we forgot to review the burger but it was a really good burger it was so good we forgot to write a review so anyway but it's pretty chill you guys did review bar arbolada and secret boo friend said that it wasn't the best burger in oklahoma city well when i said that it was taste is subjective

Speaker: Well, yeah.

Speaker: And your taste in boyfriends is clearly, clearly just average.

Speaker: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Speaker: Okay.

Speaker: Okay, we have to get off here before we go insane because it's way past bedtime.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Have we ever had a fight?

Speaker: I don't think we've fought.

Speaker: I don't think we have.

Speaker: We're better friends than that.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Okay.

Speaker: Anyways, thanks again, Sydney, for joining us on the podcast.

Speaker: I hope you guys had a fun time with us, just having girl chat and hanging out.

Speaker: Join us again next week on the podcast with a new guest who is yet to be determined, but I can guarantee you they will be good.

Speaker: We'll see you next week on the Wholeheartedly Her podcast.

Speaker: Bye, friends.

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