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Season 3- Episode 26- Just Go Watch Quins v Wasps (Premiership Round 18 & Super Rugby Finals)
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It's those weird guys from North America that like to talk about rugby. This week's episode has plenty to banter about, you know there was this little team called The Lions picked, so that's something to chat about for a bit. Also, will Marcus Smith actually be picked this summer? One of us truly does not believe so. Of course, we can't miss the amazing performance put in by the one and only, James O'Connor. We wrap all the action from both hemispheres, player news, start or sit and much more. Crack a couple and join us for a laugh.
Don't forget, we are putting together a 2nd Tier of Champi-Yanks League! You've heard us babble about it and if it sounds like fun to you, please hit us up via email or twitter.
Also, ask us questions via Twitter: Jarrod- jdyke8man & Ben- admrablsnackbar. Send us your thoughts for the show and questions for upcoming shows via e-mail fantasyrugbypodcast@gmail.com. Of course we welcome feedback via e-mail, twitter or by rating/reviewing the pod on Apple Podcast.
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Transcript
Podcast Introduction and Banter
00:00:08
Speaker
Hey, everybody. Welcome back. It is the fancy rugby angst. My name's Jared Dyke. I'm Ben Glaser. Let's get it going, buddy. We got a lot longer of starter set than we usually do. We will. It's back up to everyone. You have six, I have five.
Rugby Finals and Double Yellow Cards Discussion
00:00:24
Speaker
Yeah, that's going to be very interesting. Yeah. Same. But lots to talk about between-ish. Do we have anything to talk about?
00:00:36
Speaker
There were some matches of consequence and interest this week, I think. Yeah. Yeah. A couple of little finals action, little...
00:00:45
Speaker
double yellow card finals. And a lot of double yellows everywhere, including for one person in particular, the second one was a straight red, but still, same. Right, just the same, but nothing else. Nothing, no, it's about it. Nothing else. All right, let's trick some, because I think we're going to both need them. We will. Yeah, we got to be silly by the time it starts, it rolls around.
00:01:12
Speaker
Yeah, no kidding.
Listener Engagement and Locations
00:01:14
Speaker
Obviously, check us out on your favorite place where you get your podcast download rate, review us all. We appreciate you guys reaching out and letting us know what you like and what you don't like and where you found us because that's semi-important to us. Yeah, it's nice to collect data on the noise.
00:01:36
Speaker
There's just some fascinating download regions that we get every so often. Every once in a while. Why there? Places where you wouldn't expect rugby to be. Yeah. It's like, how did we get there? Random bot number five, I guess. Nice to see that there's interest in all corners of the planet, even if it's minimal. It's in each region. It's just cool to see the map of where we get downloads.
00:02:03
Speaker
Yeah. True that fire. Oh man. We're going to need some of you are going to need this guy. Fancy every geek semi-finals, not this coming week, but the next week, make sure you buy that man a coffee. If you got to a semi-final because of his advice, buy him a coffee.
Fantasy Rugby Advice Appreciation
00:02:17
Speaker
Do it. Don't hesitate. Uh, yeah, we're going to all need his, his help. Let's be real with this.
00:02:24
Speaker
TRM upgrades, restart rugby was this past weekend, the restart weekend. It's really great. If you don't follow the loose heads, which is a group that is now working with the prem directly talking about mental health fitness and all that. And that is a cool thing going on there. So check them out as well. Yeah, I like them.
00:02:46
Speaker
Absolutely. Yeah. So check them out as well. But yeah, get your TRM upgrade so you can help the RPA and Restart Rug because that's a huge thing for them. And that's a big thing they do there. Mr. Restart Rug, we eat them all. We all appreciate it. Loose heads just for those who don't know of them. I think it's with a Z. So I think it's good looking for it. It's loose heads. It is. It is because the other name is probably already taken, which sucks, but still heavy.
00:03:11
Speaker
All right.
Michaela Miller Case Discussion
00:03:12
Speaker
So Black Lives Matter, as always, there's no room for racism at all. We have something going on in Ben and I's backyard of late, which is a little disturbing. A woman, a girl in in Hawkington, Michaela Miller, 16, there's some shady ass shit going on here. There's no question about it. And they're not telling anybody how.
00:03:35
Speaker
Yeah, that's like the, that should be the immediate red flag. And then you start digging into it more. And it's like, oh, this is corruption at its finest right here. Good Lord. This is fucked up. Yeah, it's pretty, it's really fucked up. Yeah. So if you're not sure what I'm talking about, look up Michaela Miller and look up the DA that's on this thing too. She is a complete,
00:03:55
Speaker
Oh, boy. Yeah, I can't understand normal thinking. Not really into that one right there. That's for sure. Yeah. So yeah, that's that's something to that. I think if somebody's looking for. Yeah, that's just this is so fucked up in so many ways. And it's really, it's really scary. That's in our backyard to right here.
00:04:14
Speaker
Um, it's, it's one of those, you kind of expected every, so it's like, um, you know, all the other problems we have in, in, in this fucking country, um, you know, school shootings or stuff like that, you know, when you're always like, yeah, I figured like, I remember there was a school shooting a couple of years ago, um, after Parkland or like right after Parkland and it was in like in Arizona and the media are all asking the kids, like, you know, did you ever think this could happen here? And they're all like, fucking yes. We all knew it was going to be this kid too. Like you all did nothing about it.
00:04:44
Speaker
Right. And, you know, so, you know, shit like this is happening in our backyards. It's just we got to get rid of it. Right. Like, that's why it happened. It's prevalent. And we get these shitty, you know, DAs who are corrupt as hell and. So messed up. It's yeah, it's fucked up. And the whole situation that and the the Brown situation in
00:05:06
Speaker
in North Carolina where they're not letting the, they're basically like spoon feeding the family clips of it. It's like, they're just, everybody's just covering shit up. You know, now they can't make, you know, they don't want it to be too public because they know.
00:05:22
Speaker
because they know the gun runs out. Yes, you will. Yes, you will. You fuck bags. Teenage girl and you're just going to try to cover up a murder. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. And there's a lot of double standards going on with that one. I'm like, fuck that. That is wrong. That is wrong in so many levels. So, yeah, dig into this and let's fucking somebody pressure this biatch to fucking, you know, recuse yourself at the very, at the very minimum.
Champions League Changes and Transfers
00:05:47
Speaker
Yeah. Please, please, please.
00:05:49
Speaker
As I said, uh, the, as we've been saying right along, we are going to open up a second tier of champion league. Um, we're getting down to the wire in that as well. Um, there will be promotion and relegation. So, uh, right now it's really hard to tell who's ready for it to go up or down. Um, there have been points awarded at this point, but it's really only been one comp that's been fully awarded. So hard to tell right now, but keep your eyes peeled and don't get
00:06:12
Speaker
Don't go don't go getting dropped. So I feel reasonably safe because I'm I would I made the semis in the Champions Cup. Mm hmm. And I your top two in the top two TRM and TRM. So did you you got did you get points in six nations? Or are you wait? I don't remember. I think I might. I don't I think I made it far in the psycho bracket, but I can't. Oh, no, that was that. That was the you know, it wasn't. No, I fucked up that I was played.
00:06:42
Speaker
I couldn't remember. I don't remember how far I don't. I forgot that was TRM. Yeah. I don't know how I didn't do well in that. Okay. So that might establish that. That was that captaining Maro when he got a zero. Oh yeah. That hurts. That hurts. And not being able to hold and respond to a whole lot of it there. Oops. You did captain LRZ that one time though. That was a good last week. I fucking crushed it and made myself respectable.
00:07:07
Speaker
Yeah, my, yeah, I was, I was right below you. So you probably got points and I didn't. That probably launches my safety. Yeah. So you would have been safe. Yeah. We open them up. So, uh, hit this up and we'll, we'll make sure you get a spot in next year. Eight, eight teams, eight teams, eight managers we're looking for. So just get on it. All right. Um,
00:07:30
Speaker
news, player movement, a little bit to churn through here. The one today, bombery slot going from Doncaster to wasps. I presume this is Karen Brooks's replacement as he's heading out to France. So there's that.
00:07:47
Speaker
Decent move, they could always use some help at the prop position. Yeah, that's what I mean. Good quality props are things that you need to have an abundance of if you possibly can, because you don't need to be given away scrum penalties every five frigging minutes in a match just because you don't have a good prop. We'll get to that later. Yeah. Also, heading to WOS, they found their replacement for War Orleans. Elliot Stuke going towards the Ricoh.
00:08:15
Speaker
I think that's a little bit better than a replacement. I do too. I agree. I think that's a pretty big upgrade for them. So I'm stooped to see how that goes. Well, you know, I watched it. Fucking lame. I watched it.
00:08:31
Speaker
I saw it and I was like, you know, this is actually something that might work out for both sides. Cause again, we know that, um, was needed replacement for, for Roland's, but looking at the other side, like they, the, the, the bathroom have yields. They have McNally, they have this kid stat on that's coming through. They have Williams if they need to stick him in there as a second row. So they have somebody they can use as a.
00:08:54
Speaker
as a second row, you know, reserve if, if needed one, you know, the injury bug kicks out. They need help elsewhere, really. So this is, this is almost like a trade. Like we'll give, we'll give you this and then we'll, we'll find someone, you know, in a position to return somewhere. Yep. I'm sure they'll go looking, you know, they have DC started training with them, which would be nice to see. Um, steps come on and going into that Jersey. That'll be, that'll be cool. Uh,
00:09:20
Speaker
more Southern Hemisphere news in some ways, TJ Parinara coming home. He's coming home for a couple of, he's going to stay around for a couple of years too with that. 23. Yeah. Through the, through the World Cup and probably, and then probably start going abroad. Yeah. I agree.
TJ Perenara's Return to NZ Rugby
00:09:35
Speaker
Yeah. Good for him. Good for everyone. Good for, for New Zealand. Yeah. I knew that was happening. Yeah. It was always going to happen, right?
00:09:42
Speaker
Yeah, and we saw Julian survey has actually signed on for a little bit longer with the hurricanes as well. So he's he's he's excited. I don't think he's gotten to play with TJ yet. So I think he's excited to get that.
00:09:55
Speaker
We have the Stormer's Eatman coming north, Augustus, going to Saints. Hopefully that'll solve somewhat of a problem. Harrison and Andorff, to trade off, is not terrible, but hopefully this guy can grab this eight-shirt by the horns, as it were. Yeah, and neither of them are special. They're both kind of jags. Nothing that I'm like, oh, shit, Tim on Harrison. Yeah, he's not...
00:10:20
Speaker
You know, he's, he's a, he's a steady eight. He's, but he's not, you know, anywhere near that upper echelon. He's just like, if you haven't started solid guy and, um, Aiden Dorf is, uh, back up at best. Yeah. Um, they don't really have the man at eight. And even though, yes, I realized Harrison's the captain, but that's different. Um, that's, that's the whole, like, yeah, he's, he's a good leader. Um,
00:10:45
Speaker
you know, more so than, than his productivity. So right. I mean, shit, move him to six. There you go. Yeah. Problem solved. Yeah. Yeah. I did it. Um, more Southern hemisphere. Not a lot. Mapay is, I don't think it's been confirmed yet, but he is rumored to be what will be Gail Fikou's replacement at Stadt Francais as Gail Fikou moves over to Rossing. Well, you know,
00:11:13
Speaker
You could do worse. You could do worse on the replacements. It's, you know, it's too, I want to be mad at the all blacks, but I can't be. Um, because obviously this is probably the only, that's probably the only reason that he's moving there. Cause it's not like he doesn't like playing for the hurricanes. Um, but if he doesn't feel like he's getting time, we gotta get time with New Zealand, then obviously that's his move. Right. It's not, there's.
00:11:34
Speaker
And he's not going to be, they don't have anybody. I mean, they have so many good players that the New Zealand center position. So it's like, he's never going to be the man because they're not going to have a, the man for, they never do for years. I don't know when, yeah. Like.
00:11:51
Speaker
So it's, you know, what he could be just, you know, one of the rotation guys, because that's what that's how they'll do or go get paid. And you know what I'm choosing and he's already, he's already won enough. So go get paid. Yeah. He's going to, he's going to do just fine. Parisians will love him. No doubt. Yes, they will. And I'm sure he'll love them. So yeah, I'm sure he'll join Paris very much. So hopefully you can do some dance before he heads out the door.
00:12:16
Speaker
For the longest staying put with the Irish, that was probably the smartest bit of business they could do is make sure he doesn't go anywhere. Good for him. Staying put at Leinster, I believe as well. Does he have the cap level? I can't remember if Ireland is. Ireland doesn't do a cap limit. You have to play for one of the provinces if you want to play for Ireland. Well, then there you go.
00:12:36
Speaker
So yeah, make sure he doesn't go anywhere. And, um, well, Muir, who has very, been very oppressive. We talked about that before. He's been very oppressive since he's come into the bathfold and taking after very much taking after ready. McConaughey in many ways. When can we see them work together again? I would really enjoy that.
00:12:54
Speaker
Right.
British and Irish Lions Squad Analysis
00:12:55
Speaker
I would not be, be mad about like a Watson full back and mirror and McConaughey thing on the wing type of thing going on. And, you know, did landfill on the bench. That'd be, that'd be good. That'd be all right. That one right there. So hopefully that's soon. Hopefully that's soon. And then there was, there was, there was something going on on Thursday and Oh yeah.
00:13:21
Speaker
We got the British and Irish lines. It was kind of interesting. Yeah. Names that were a bit of a surprise. Names that were omitted that were a surprise. But overall, I don't have a whole lot to be mad about with the selection. Not even a little bit. Yeah.
00:13:45
Speaker
like you said i think you and i think you and i both agreed conan for standard probably would have been one to flip yeah there's there's definitely some some different like again and um yeah and there's just like some of the the props like sander fagerson i'm not huge on but well it's also at the same time i'm um i feel like it's more like
00:14:08
Speaker
It's better to have more inclusion from all every country, right? I'll take the hit like between him and Tom Francis. Like Francis is good. Don't get me wrong. There's there's a significant difference there. But for the Lions, they're both going to be like backups. So I'd rather take more from a more diverse team.
00:14:29
Speaker
from every country rather than concentrating on Wales, England, Ireland. Let's get some more Scots on here. Most of my question marks were from the Scotland region, but there were some others.
00:14:48
Speaker
Right. Aki was kind of a shock. You're right. Aki was a bit of a shock. Big shock, but I like it. I'm okay with it. I don't hate it. What do you mean whatsoever? So yeah, we have Adams. That was probably expected. Aki, again, kind of a shock. Bigger expected. Daily was kind of an eyebrow rager. Like, you sure? I guess his versatility is probably the one thing that saves him. But really, he had a poopy Six Nations, so I was really questioning that one.
00:15:16
Speaker
But I did see that there was a report around what they were looking for in a player, right? And maybe daily isn't one of the top, you know, basically utility backs, because that's what he's going to be. He can play anywhere outside. Much anywhere besides 9 or 10 or 12. Right. But like he's a guy who will be that bench rotation player and relish the role.
00:15:44
Speaker
That's true. Whereas there's going to be some guys who are used to being the man and they're like, wait, now I have to do this. Fucking kidding me. Like, guys don't have an attitude about it. And he won't. So to me, that says a lot too for the selections. I think that shines through. They're all team players.
00:16:03
Speaker
Yeah, I think we got some good stuff. Gareth Davies, probably either your 9 or your 21, depending on what you're carrying for forwards there. Farrell, again, I'm not super shocked because he can play 12 if they want to do that pivot. That's probably the thing that saved him there.
00:16:21
Speaker
Chris Harris, I was so excited to see his name. Fuck yes. That was a name that I love this guy and I'm so happy he's going to be wearing that red shirt. That was amazing. Robbie Henshaw was kind of an expected one. He was on the lips of a lot of people. Hoggie nailed on full back as long as he's healthy. Murray again, probably whatever Jersey Davies isn't wearing, he's wearing it.
00:16:45
Speaker
Ali Price, good to bring him along and just let him experience the lines. He may well be one of those 9 or 21 jerseys come four years in Australia. LRC, hell yeah. I'm all about that.
00:17:00
Speaker
All about that. Finn, we kind of knew he'd be on the plane. Duhan, we definitely were really pumping him up and it's really great to see him on there. That was a name I was excited to see. Watson, love it. He was one of the best players for England in this past Six Nations and has continued to shine in what's been a bath season. So, loads of good for that. I thought you were talking to Mish.
00:17:24
Speaker
No, no, Anthony Watson, the other. No, we'll get there. I was like, wait, wait, England and that? No, no, no, no. Anthony Watson, Anthony Watson. We'll get to that one. Also a good pick. Liam Williams. Surprise. I think he played that well. Yeah, but can't argue against it in the end. He's right. A pro's pro will do the job and he won't be the best, but he will.
00:17:48
Speaker
I think with that, we're thinking about Pollard and Faf putting boots to the ball up in the air with him back there potentially. So that's probably the ideas there as well. So even if he's playing like, you know, 14 and being that helpful guy back there.
00:18:04
Speaker
In the forwards, Tyburn, that was one I was hoping would be, would be called. I had his name on my sheet for potential lines the way he played the six stations. Totally, totally worth it. Conan, again, you know, there's a couple of guys you could trade out for Conan and they're probably all the same, honestly. So whatever, Conan, Stander, Van Der Fleer, you could really take any one of them and it'd be okay. LCD was probably one we thought would be on the plane. Yeah. Are you going to take two English hookers? That was really the only question around that.
00:18:31
Speaker
Right. And we found that answer. Again, I didn't think it was amazing. I get his ability and all that. And, you know, really.
00:18:40
Speaker
He's one that I wanted to take ahead of him. Yes. Yeah. Oh, yeah. There's a lot. There's like that's the other thing, because again, England are well represented here. I would I would have looked in a different direction, but I can't argue it. He's he's fucking good. It's very honest. He's just not he's just not like fantastic. He's not like upper tier yet, but he's only fucking 23. So.
00:19:02
Speaker
Right. That's, that's really hard to argue. Let's keep that, let's give this a perspective. Keep that in perspective for sure. He's a puppy. He's going to be around a while. He's going to get a lot better. Right. As we said, Xander Fagerson, probably, probably a little bit, uh, foul towel. Yes. He played so well since he's moved to six in that bass shirt and carried it through to the, to the six nations. So awesome. Awesome for him.
00:19:24
Speaker
Again, for long, we talked about probably mailed on starter for a tight head. Jinx, he's in there. We knew that was possible. Henderson was a bit of a eyebrow razor, but really Henderson, James Ryan, Henderson, James Ryan, is there a difference? I like Henderson. I'm leaning in Henderson's direction for a while.
00:19:49
Speaker
He's just been, I think he's been playing better. So I like, it's one of those, you can, you know, six to one, half dozen the other, but that's why you just pick on form. And Henderson has been just.
00:20:00
Speaker
Quite good, including that try. We saw him score against Lester the other week. Johnny Hill, we kind of thought would be on the plane after the way he's played both for Exeter and for anyone. You got to take that boot. Yeah. No, second row has a boot like that. Maro, he was already he was he was in conversation for captain. So when Jones, we thought we were probably thinking he's either on the bench or the starting loose head, depending on the day.
00:20:28
Speaker
Courtney laws. I get it. I'm struggling to like it. I get it though. Like, dude, the guy is just, you know, you think about the second rose he's going against. So that's the thing. That is the thing. That's that's he'll match them. He'll match them. Right. If you want to. He's your like kind of swing utility. Like he'd be your your 20 potentially.
00:20:52
Speaker
on the bench and you're just like, you know, you're going to put him somewhere and he's just going to kick ass for, you know, if you need to bring him in 20 minutes and he'll, he'll kick ass for 60 minutes. And if you need to bring him in for, for 20 to 30 minutes, he will kick all sorts of ass in that. So it's like, okay, that's his role. Point to me a better 30 minute lock.
00:21:14
Speaker
Oh, yeah, I know. And he'll just run it in. He'll just gas out happily. Yeah. So and he'll he'll relish his role. So that that's what I was getting to earlier laws. I don't like it, but I like it. But in context, in context, Ken Owens, we were probably thinking he's probably the start of a starting hooker right now, unless somebody unless he really falls
Praise for Sam Simmonds' Selection
00:21:37
Speaker
off. Porter has definitely been miles ahead of Kean Healy. So good for him.
00:21:43
Speaker
Sam Simmons. Fuck you, Eddie. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. This is such a thumb in the eye of Eddie Jones and I fucking love it. I am so happy for this guy. He has just been, you know, we talk about, we'll talk about other guys in a little bit, but fucking hell. This was just, I think there were more people cheering for this than not. Honestly, like this was about a 99% people that went, yes. And a 1% people that are just poopy pants and went no.
00:22:12
Speaker
Yeah. I saw an argument made that look at James Lowe and how his transition to the international game went. And it's like, but
00:22:25
Speaker
Simmons just played international rugby before. That's the thing. Don't forget that he's played and he's done fine. So like to to make that argument, what like if you're talking about somebody that's not capped at all. OK, fine, get it. But yeah, but you look at his skill set, too. And the way he doesn't just have one way to beat you. Even this weekend, he scored two pushover tries. And yet he also has like, you know, a 40 meter try at some point, like, yeah, he's got some gas to him. So it's like,
00:22:53
Speaker
He's versatile and in ways he can beat you, which is what you need at the international. He's got all the tools. It's not like, you know, James Lowe. Yeah, he's fucking fast and has a little wiggle to him. But all of a sudden he's going against guys who have a little wiggle to them, too. He's going to handle it forward. He's he's done. He who plays like a back. So he's he's a matchup nightmare. OK, you want to put a forward on him that can probably stop him. All right. Well, he's going to friggin run by them. And if you want to put a back on him, that's going to be able to keep up with him. He's going to run over him.
00:23:22
Speaker
You know, it's a matchup nightmare and anybody that says otherwise is really not paying attention. I'm sorry. Yeah. Come on. Even at the international level, he'll, he'll require two defenders. No, 100%. So yeah. Yeah. That was, that was a smart pick for it by him. There's no way he doesn't help this team.
00:23:38
Speaker
Rory Sutherland, we talked about diversity, and the props is probably a good way to get some, and it's not like he's a terrible scavenger, so you're going to need a couple of them against the South African team anyway, so. Tipperick, I thought he was going to be on the plane for sure. Yeah, this guy's a war horse, no doubt. Mako, again, there's not a lot of props that are quite like Mako from the polis, so that doesn't shock me at all. And then the Mish, the Mish.
00:24:04
Speaker
Absolutely. 100% deserve to be on this plane. I don't give a shit how big or how small he is. He's not small. He's not. I know. People are just like, oh, he's too small. Like, what? Are you on drugs? Either you need to be on more drugs or you need to be off the drugs you're on. One or the other. Right. No, different drugs.
00:24:25
Speaker
one or the other fix it, please. Yeah, absolutely. So it's, um, it'll be a, it's a really good team to see going down there. And obviously we, there's guys that are probably lying in wait. Um, because unfortunately the fact is that not all of these guys are going cause somebody's going to probably get hurt. Yeah.
00:24:43
Speaker
So that's a really sad thing. So hopefully, there's a few names that I'm hoping aren't hurting. I won't say them out loud, just so the gods don't hear them. Old and new. But yeah, there's some guys who obviously are ready to step in at a moment's notice. 100% and they'll fill in just fine as well.
00:25:01
Speaker
Yeah, totally. Okay. Um, we got other things to talk about too. Unfortunately, super Ruby finals. We'll talk about them both today. Yes, we will. Oh yeah. Also, I want to just give a shout out to the fun bus. Jason who's, who's calling out the names. If you don't know anything about Jason Leonard, please go look him up. He is a party.
00:25:23
Speaker
also, in many ways, Alliance legend in his own right. So yeah, and that voice is just so very distinct. Since he's had that, you had that operation where they had to go dig into his cervical spine, but they need to move his voice box to get to it. So it's pretty, it's a pretty noticeable voice. So as soon as I heard it, I was like, it's the fun glass I turned around and there it is.
00:25:50
Speaker
So yes, shout out to the man Jason Leonard. Love that dude. Super rugby finals. Oh boy. Let's talk about New Zealand and your boys. Yeah, let's get through that. We'll get through that, slog through that. We talked about two yellow cards before and really it comes down to the yellow card period for the Chiefs. I think it will fucking
00:26:15
Speaker
Damien McKenzie missed three penalty kicks. That also does not help. Like that's, that's the game. Cause right there, you know, maybe that that's not, I know it's only nine points, but that means you're at the end of the match. You're in, you're in, you're in it.
00:26:31
Speaker
Um, you can't be pulling that kind of bullshit. I'm sorry. Like that's, that's, that's where he's been aggravating me of late is yeah, he was, and he was dead nuts in the, in the regular season. Um, I don't know why he, he had those kinds of problems. It's not like it was affecting everybody. It was kind of just him. Um, really annoyed by that. Yep. Really annoyed by that. So that's yeah. And.
00:27:00
Speaker
really not much more to say the Chiefs played so well, other than that, like they they did everything you need to do. They were right there the whole time. Yeah. And and that's when like you get down the yellow card and they still had the
00:27:15
Speaker
Even when it wasn't in yellow card, I thought their forwards were winning, you know, good, go forward and kind of outplaying the crusaders forwards. Peter Gus had a huge game. Yeah, every game in space had some offloads and some passes in space, the stuff that he wouldn't normally do or hasn't in the past. If he's if this is the player he's going to be, yes, please.
00:27:35
Speaker
Right. You know, and but then so you have all of that and then you get a penalty with two men up and you kick for fucking points. No, put it in the goddamn corner and drive it over. Absolutely. Especially after the second miss, it's like, OK, put that shit away and let your forwards win the match. And Damien McKenzie's like, no, no, no, I'm Damien McKenzie. I'm going to smile and miss the game.
00:27:56
Speaker
I'm so fucking angry about that. Yeah, I don't I don't doubt it. But in the in the same in the same thing, it's just that it's that weird aura around the Crusaders. That's like, yeah, it finds a way to work. And I don't I can't understand it sometimes. Yeah, it's fucking annoying. But but, you know, I did sound like I went into that match thinking, obviously, we talked about this last week, had no
00:28:22
Speaker
no, um, under no illusions that the, the chiefs were going to win. Um, so the outcome was kind of expected. It was just frustrating the way it happened, but that's, it's always is against the rotators, right? That's, I think that's what, what it is because they make you beat yourself and they, they certainly did. Yeah.
00:28:42
Speaker
Yeah, it was. And, you know, geez, Richard Wong is still not terrible at all that after all that as well. So yeah, we saw too many still plow. He's still finding space and cutting through and running. Yeah. Would you say would you say Lester Feinga Nuka is probably a 13 for a long time?
00:29:05
Speaker
I would fucking put him there and leave him there. No question. Same. Yeah. He's hard as a lane, but he's built himself into a 13. I believe you've. Plus you want bridge and Reese and. It's the only way you're going to get them all on the field anyway. Yeah. Right. And I think he, I think he works really well at 13. So yes. Yeah. Agreed. Yep. And we saw the return of Braden NR as well. That is bad news for everybody playing trans task in this coming week. A little bit.
00:29:34
Speaker
Oh, man, that is not good news for anybody out there. So, yeah, have fun with that one,
Super Rugby AU Finals Recap
00:29:40
Speaker
guys. I thought Alex Nagel played pretty well as a 12. I think that's a guy that could probably, I could probably see hanging out, hanging around that position for a while. I guess. I mean, is it good for you sticking around? I mean, for the Chiefs, not for the Raiders, but... Oh, fuck. Oh, sorry. I was... Fuck. Yeah, I didn't... I don't know. The Chiefs backline wasn't that...
00:30:01
Speaker
Impressive. I wasn't that impressed. So no, there wasn't a lot. I didn't really. Although I, you know, for the guy he had to go against and has to go and, you know, a lot of things he has to live up to. I thought Britain Gatlin played fairly well for him. Oh, he totally did. For him. He had to come out. Yeah. Whoops. That might have been match. Because they were the chief's word.
00:30:27
Speaker
you know, putting on a show with him in there and then he comes out and they didn't really have a 10. Yeah, Mackenzie is, you know, he has enough, he can do 15 or he can do 10, he can't do both. And he kind of had to do double duty there and it didn't really work out. Yeah, so the rest of the backside was just not that.
00:30:47
Speaker
No, I was much more happy with the forwards. Right. Yep. I agree. So do it the fuck again. Who knew it's annoying as hell, but it's, uh, it's what they do. Well, that's what, that's what it is. Let's talk a little bit about the super rugby AU because we haven't talked about it a whole lot on here. Um, if this guy,
00:31:09
Speaker
If his rise from the Ashes has not been completed yet, it is now. That's it. James O'Connor. It doesn't get more risier than that. Oh my God. What an absolute hero for this Reds team. Complete batchet craziness at the end of this game as well.
00:31:28
Speaker
And geez, you got to believe that Nick Barry was at the edge of his like at the edge of his nerve and just ready to order a fucking penalty. Try because he's like, stop making so many damn penalties. Right. But you can't because you can't like there was no there was no actual reason to. Right. Until, you know, Tupo thought it was Tupo. Everyone thought it was Tupo. Right. Everyone's cheering. And then they even fooled the camera. But but I fuck.
00:31:57
Speaker
And Barry credit to be like, that's not a try. I'm holding my position and then waiting for like, he's right there to try when, um, when I was ready to fall over finally. Yeah. Fuck.
00:32:10
Speaker
Uh, what a way to end. Yep. Um, it's, it's, it was just hanging on for a deal life for the Brumbies too. They were just like, please let us get the ball once so we can get the fuck out of here. You know, please let the res be inaccurate in a, in a rock, like something, something about and said they were inaccurate at the breakdown.
00:32:30
Speaker
Yep. Yep. And they just kept getting it. And, you know, obviously they got Barry's last nerve to the point where they were sitting on two yellow cards. As soon as they went on two yellow cards, they were both in the forward. I was like, Oh, they are so fucked. They're so fucked. One in the forward, one of the backs you can kind of deal with. As soon as it was both forwards, you were just like, Oh, this, this one's going to be assholed. And sure enough, it was.
00:32:54
Speaker
Oh, but then the quick tap for the prop work, like, you know, got, got them to the line almost over. So, you know, they did that so many times though. Oh, the nerve, like that was, I was like, you know, I had no rooting interest really other than I wanted a good match. And that was tense.
00:33:14
Speaker
Oh, that was just there. I can't imagine being that same being a Reds fan. Really cool to see that stadium packed out again, too. That was that was that was an awesome atmosphere. I'm sure most of those Reds players were drawing wood, honestly. You know, that was a really intense atmosphere. Who was it that was just punch in the air for like five minutes after the try? Oh, I don't know. I didn't see who it was. I couldn't tell. Oh, it wasn't McRite, was it? I may have been. Yeah.
00:33:46
Speaker
No, no. Yeah, I think it might have been a rue.
00:33:49
Speaker
I don't know. Whatever. You're the one. Right. It was just like, but fuck. And O'Connor sets up the kick anyway. It doesn't just be like, fuck it. I don't care. No. Fucker says I'm getting my due. I'm getting my seven. Yep. And yeah. James O'Connor 19, Brumby 16. Says, fuck it. Got you. Yeah. Yeah. Just for that. And the whole team. Fantastic match. You know, we talked. We saw it from.
00:34:20
Speaker
Uh, we saw it in England as well, but you know, really good to see the emotion coming out to po and just like, you know, big boys, big, big fellas cry too. Yeah. The big fellas absolutely played 85 minutes. I guess in a gas. Yeah. Final at prop at tight head. Um, I,
00:34:43
Speaker
There's a reason he's not starting this weekend. If you've never played prop, you will not understand what that means. Not a chance. Not a chance. It's an unbelievable feat. And that's, yeah, you could go ahead and big bang cry after that. You can do whatever the fuck you want. You earned it. And he missed his momma too, so I can't say that. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
00:35:04
Speaker
Can't say I blame them for that one. So it's a big congratulations to the Reds and Brad Thorne and just finally getting that over the line and bringing themselves to Super Bowl glory in many ways and really just making it
00:35:20
Speaker
making it that final, laying that final marker down, saying, we are here and we are not going anywhere. So. Australian rugby seems to be pretty good. I'm really looking forward to this. This'll be interesting. I want to see how this all plays out. Yeah. And one more, one more. Congratulations to Amy Parrott for being the assistant referee in his final. Been well done. Yeah. Well done to her. I, you know, anybody that fucking, all the misogynists that are just like, shut up, shut up before I kick your head in, please.
00:35:47
Speaker
But if I can go back, O'Keefe did a good job. I know. I was like, what? He did a good job? Lies. So many lies. Jared didn't believe me when I said that. I was like, why would I? I couldn't tell him the whole time because we went to the free jacks match and I'd seen the
00:36:07
Speaker
the yeah i didn't quite get to the that final yet and so i was just and i couldn't tell i couldn't tell him about the os final either and i'm just like motherfucker we can't talk about this yeah i'll do better yeah i i thought i could say it was okay i actually was okay with okeith and there was there was disbelief no yeah definitely all right let's go to the northern hemisphere uh friday night sale luster meh
Sale vs Leicester Match Recap
00:36:32
Speaker
a whole lot of men and really, you know, for, for winning the match, for the, for the man, the match award, AJ had a couple of men moments too. Yeah, he was a couple of shanks. I'm like, yeah, he missed a lot. This is, this is very non-AJ. What the hell? The hell man. What the hell's going on over here? Aren't there two yellows in this match? Oh, there definitely were. There's at least two. I thought, I thought we were down to 13 again at one point.
00:36:56
Speaker
Um, let's see, we have a John Luke to Priya and we have a Luke James. Yeah. Yep. That would be it right there. Yeah. Oh, talk about the circle of hell. Oh my Lord sale Lester and fucking Tom Polly. I still thought Lester could have pulled it out. I, you know, I,
00:37:20
Speaker
Yeah. If they made a slightly named, a slightly stronger team, they probably could have. Oh, and, um, Murray Miravallo scored and Foley called it back. Let's not forget that, sir. Um, I don't understand that. And I was like, how was that? That was a, that was in tackle. You get one motion. He's chose his motion to go forward. Once didn't crawl, just took one.
00:37:43
Speaker
just took the one movement and scored it. Like I don't understand how that's, that's always a try that would like every other match has to try, but Foley's got to be a dick about it.
00:37:53
Speaker
Yeah. He, can we get Holly Davidson into like the prem and cause she can do a better job than this guy or Matt Carly, honestly, fuck them both. Welcome both. And I will say, I don't understand the George Martin situation with the national team. Oh, I don't either. So he had a similar situation to Marine Miravallo, but for a lock and especially for an international level lock, you expect them to really, before they go to deck, get that one or two more inches that they're not supposed to get.
00:38:24
Speaker
in the, in the prem at that level, like you should be, you should be winning that, you know, you had the opportunity to and just didn't have the strength. And it's like, yeah, talk about it's not like a microcosm of the, to me that the George Martin situation, he's not that he's not, he's a jag at the, at the,
00:38:42
Speaker
Well, I don't realize he's young as fuck, but you talk about Jag, but yeah, you're right. I don't disagree. Yeah. Pizza shit on me. That's my thoughts. Yeah. A sale where we're able to finish it off. So they at least got themselves over the line as they should have. Yeah.
00:38:58
Speaker
We'll take a jaunt over to Franklin's Gardens on Saturday. Again, another meh match. Yeah, Northampton were a whole bag of meh. I wanted to quell the rumors now. I did not smoke up the Northampton Saints before the match. They didn't even come out. I'm not even sure they got to the stadium, honestly. What the hell?
00:39:21
Speaker
What the hell? They were they were terrible. They were not good. They were not good at all. And, you know, credit to the to the Gloucester man for fronting up and making this making this their match when Northampton decided that they didn't want to. But fuck. Yeah, I mean, no, I'm not. I'm no disrespect to Gloucester. Gloucester played a hell of a match, you know, for us.
00:39:42
Speaker
I'm just saying that the Saints just didn't bother to show up. And credit to Henry Taylor for deciding, you know what? We're not getting fucking goose egged this match. I'm going to just take him for a try. Yeah, you did. Good for him. Where you going, Henry? For being a guy, you know, one of the few Saints who's like, you know what? I kind of want to play some rugby today. Yeah, not sure many others really wanted to. They were more interested in the handbags and the aftermath. But can we talk about the guy who celebrated being named a lion?
00:40:11
Speaker
With just a fucking day. With a double. And then he pulled at 62 because they're like, all right, Louie, you've scored enough. We can be done. Yeah, I'm sure they will wrap you in bubble wrap as quick as possible. Yeah, we don't need you for the rest of this, so you're coming off. You're good. Really? You could probably play him in one more match and then bench him, honestly. Yeah, it might be time for him to rest up for the lion's tour. Does the gloss are going nowhere? Right.
00:40:39
Speaker
And I'm sure Warren Gatlin's like, please don't break him. Yeah. Although let's see, are they, are they in contention? They're no, they're not. I'm saying they only have to do is get to eight to get to the champion's cup. Oh, that's the stupidest thing ever. I'm sorry. We haven't talked about it, but God damn it. That's the stupidest thing ever. Yeah. They're only, they're only two points away. Yeah. Two points away.
00:40:58
Speaker
Yeah. Let's make two thirds of the league fucking worth half I get, but let's like really like bath and Lester are really, are they really going to add to the champions cup next year or maybe was well, if they can unseat Lester, but for fuck sake, like
00:41:16
Speaker
Oh, just come on. I hate this. You can, you can, you know, express yourself to hide your feelings. Oh, come on, man. You're killing me over here with this. Like, like the eighth best team in France and whatever the fuck it is going to be. It's going to be a shit show. Oh, those teams are going to get just get housed.
00:41:48
Speaker
Anywho, all right, let's go over to Sandy Park, because that's a quick one to talk about. The wind just kind of was the thing, and then once Exeter got the wind, that was the end. You know, really? I mean, I'm glad Worcester kind of showed up a little bit for this one and started well, but I knew that wind was going to be a bad news thing when they switch sides. I was like, yeah, this wind's not going to be very nice, is it?
00:42:03
Speaker
That's all that's going to happen. Yep. I fucking hate it. Okay. Anyways.
00:42:15
Speaker
You know, as, as we set the standards, Dave, you were scored in this goddamn match. So, right. So it's, yeah, that's a, that's a win. Yeah. Stu Townsend, Jack Vermeulen. Like, I mean, those were the end of the match, but still for fuck's sake.
00:42:29
Speaker
You're right. That's, that's just when it's, I don't think I even saw those tries. I think I, I, um, who was it? I saw this. I had it on the background and the only reason I saw is cause I saw the Townsend one cause they were really hyped about it. All right. Um, the slave try was actually quite good though. So we can talk about that one. That one was a quite a bit of skill. Talk about a guy who, uh, you know,
00:42:52
Speaker
Uh, had something to say about not making Alliance, right? That's a guy putting his hand up saying, yeah, I'm not going to let this bother me. I'm going to kick ass anyway. Yeah. There were a couple of guys that did that this weekend. Yeah. Well, I guess we'll get to a couple others later. Yeah. So, uh, yeah, that was, that was good.
00:43:08
Speaker
Yeah, Sam Simmons, as we talked about, you know, he can score in many ways. He got push over try, couple push over tribes in this one, but we know he can do much more than that. Right. So good on him. But he can do that. Yeah, he can do he can do that. Yeah. All right. Jesus. George Martin can't even do that. Right. God damn.
00:43:26
Speaker
So let's go over to Kingston Park and kind of an unexpected result, at least in the, in the, the volume that it was
Newcastle's Victory Over London Irish
00:43:34
Speaker
at. Wow. Hello, Newcastle. Fucking A. I don't know what else to say. Yeah. Like that just.
00:43:46
Speaker
They just fucking manhandled them. Yeah. The Rona yellow was really where Newcastle decided they were going to take it, take it by the scruff of the neck. Um, McGwegan got one and Steven got one. Stevenson got one. And then shortly after that, um, yeah, gorgeous.
00:44:03
Speaker
Yeah. And, um, shortly after that, Coco got responded, um, young Coco, but still like, you know, Conan picked back and, you know, the Newcastle decided that this was their match for a while. Like even early on to decide where this is our match. Parton got the thing going, but really like Newcastle after that kind of woke up and said, all right, we're on this. We're doing this. No, no questions asked. Um,
00:44:30
Speaker
Oh, I know who the other guy that signed the extension was, was Phipps. He signed the extension. Cool. That's, that's what I saw. I saw another one. All right. I was kicking myself. Not like that. That's he's solid. Yeah. Especially without me in there. Yeah.
00:44:45
Speaker
And Nick room's not going to be your fucking nine for anything that's productive. That's for sure. So about that. So this is, yeah, this was a really good performance from Newcastle. I think this is what Dean Richards really wanted of his club. And that's, um, that's the good stuff on the boys from, from way up north. So if I can say two things, um, Ben Stevenson's try and the Ben loader, just his effort all day and try. Um,
00:45:15
Speaker
Johnny May could not have scored any one of those and I will leave it at that. I know. I know. I know. Loaders played really well the last few weeks. So good on that boy. I love it. You know, that makes a hell of a back three for that team. I can't remember what the decline trade was. I offered loader to George a little bit ago and I'm really glad he didn't take him. So thanks George. That's funny.
00:45:40
Speaker
Okay. And then the, uh, the, uh, the last one for Saturday was started off as quite a doozy bath, 20, Bristol 40, the old Derby match here. Uh, wow. Um, you know, we thought this was going to be an interesting match. Once preschool intercepted that ball and scored, I was like, Oh yeah, this might be a game. This could be a game. That's yeah. Um,
00:46:06
Speaker
And then a young man by the name of Maxwell Malins decided that this was no longer going to be a game and he was going to take it over. Yeah.
00:46:15
Speaker
And there were there were many players that played outstanding in this match. Two of them from the Saracens and one of the Max Melons. The best far and away like that. That's where I was getting to is that of all the people who played well and they did. He wasn't even man of the match somehow, but I don't think that's it. Yeah, I don't disagree with the man of the match, but Melons was just he he dominated, you know, he took over the game. He said, you know, I'm going to score these tries and win us the game.
00:46:44
Speaker
Yeah. And he did. And he's just, you know, and we saw, we saw the Bristol machine pairing at full, full noise with this one too. And this is, this is what they're capable of. And every body, like every team should just be absolutely frightened at what this team can do barring that they can remember to remove Luke Morahan at some point because he needs to get the fuck off this team. Oh, Morahan was killing me.
00:47:11
Speaker
Yeah, dude, everything that was good that he did, he find a way to fuck up. Everything that forward pass, they're calling over the tri-line. Just general butt fuckery. There's some butt fuckery at play here. It's just bad. It's frustrating because I love the guy. He did well for a long time. It's time for him to be done. Yeah, I'm done.
00:47:42
Speaker
The other thing is the, the thing about it is that the bears have so many options. Oh yes. Like you don't, you don't need this. He doesn't even need to be in your, I mean, he doesn't need to be in your 23, but like he really, like they certainly playing that as much as he did. Right. Leo, I should have come on.
00:48:01
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, you are earlier, you have Leo, you have no longer, you have need, you know, you have on Lloyd, like, like, yeah, I would take Purdy over more hand. And that's pretty. Yeah. That's how I know. I miss the name. You're right. Yeah. Purdy. Yeah. Completely forgot about him. And I'm not like saying Purdy is I'm not the biggest Purdy fan. If you've listened to my take on him, it's he's a guy.
00:48:23
Speaker
Um, but he's a, he's a, he's a, a, a, a net neutral, right? He might do really well for you. He might do kind of poor for you, but there's, there's not a huge wide range there. More playing in a good system. That's what helps him or was just way out. It's not, he's not playing. Prem worthy. So yeah, I agree. I agree. All right. Let's, let's jump to Sunday. Cause there's a lot here.
00:48:55
Speaker
I, I delayed going to my mom's for mother's day to watch the end of this boy. Oh man. I was like, I'm going to be a half hour late. Yes. That's how you know it was a good one. That's how you know it was a good one. Oh fuck. Yeah. I think my mom was on a plane, so I didn't have to deal with it.
00:49:20
Speaker
There, there's so much of this match and Eddie Jones was in attendance, right? I don't know. I didn't, I can't remember which, he was at one match. Yeah. Well, I hope he watches this match on replay. I hope that he watches this match on replay. Dan Robson.
00:49:37
Speaker
Alex Dombrandt, Marcus fucking Smith. Like, those are three names that should just be jumping out at Eddie Jones and going, if you don't pick me this summer, you should be fired. End of story. Paolo Dog, even though he's... He should be played, yes, absolutely. I also agree with that. Doesn't have a cap yet, so... Nope. Yeah, but those guys were just...
00:50:03
Speaker
Well, that was such a, that was such a match of rugby. But here's the thing. Here's my concern and we'll dive into the match in a second.
Eddie Jones's Squad Selection Criticism
00:50:13
Speaker
But my problem, I was thinking about this with A Jones, like, has there not been a player that's screaming to be picked more than Sam Simmons? Martha Smith. Besides him. Alex Dombrandt. Maybe.
00:50:27
Speaker
So we know that the two of them, and here's the thing, Simmons has been capped even. So you can't even say, oh, he's never played. Well, fucking hell. That argument's out the window between George Martin getting picked and the fact that Simmons has already played. So that argument gets thrown out the window. Fuck that. So my number one concern for this summer for England when they're playing some semi-less competition is Eddie Jones is still going to have this fucking stupid stick up his ass. He's going to pick, you know,
00:50:57
Speaker
George Ford, Jake Mumaga and a bag of lead. And that's pretty much going to be it. Like, no, you know, who couldn't fucking play it that Lester, he was so bad. He's bad.
00:51:11
Speaker
And, you know, Robson. Yeah. And Robson, I'm sorry, he has got the skill set that's miles beyond Ben Young's right now. Get the fuck out of here that he can pass to a running target. Yes, that helps. Usually he can pass while running and do a running target. Yeah. Well, you do a lot of things like that.
00:51:29
Speaker
Yeah. That's a useful things as a nine last night checked, you know, and on the other side of him is Danny care. So all right. I need a, I need a scrum half. That's actually knows what he's doing. Bring Danny Karen to the goddamn team. The dude's playing unbelievably. You didn't play amazing this match, but no fucking on form for sure. It was, it was really for lack of opportunity.
00:51:49
Speaker
Like they, they, I wasps did a good job around the breakdown, making sure care didn't have anywhere to go with it. So it wasn't that he didn't play well. He played fine. The points weren't there fantasy wise, cause he didn't get to go for a run. They just didn't let him.
00:52:04
Speaker
Yeah, no, they were smart about it. They were very smart about it. To wasps for how they shut that down. Yeah. And this was, you know, this was a remarkable match. I want to go over every bit of this match. Go watch it, please. If you haven't watched it yet, go watch it. Because this was... How many matches in a row is this where Marcus Smith puts up seven? Like, just dominates. It's like the second or third? Like, didn't you just do this to sale last week, too? I'm pretty sure you did. Or someone like that.
00:52:32
Speaker
just what an unbelievable player and the confidence, everything all around. He knows what he's doing. He knows exactly what the fuck he's doing. Yeah, he's, you know, they talk about like instinctive players. Like I don't think he's instinctive. And I think somebody was saying, and unfortunately I think it was Healy. But I do agree with it. Like he understands what he's doing. This is not something that's coming from internally that's like habit or anything like that.
00:52:59
Speaker
He gets what he's doing and he's reading it faster than anybody else, which makes him an unbelievable, almost unstoppable player. And his talent is just ridiculous. I think it was when he was diagramming his step out wide.
00:53:13
Speaker
Um, so like it was, it was a floater of a pass, I think that that came from, from care, um, or may have come from, from another, from the inside back. And it was just a floater. And instead of running up to catch it to meet it at a tie point, he realizes, Hey, there's space out wide and there's not a defender coming to just light me the fuck up. I have, I have the opportunity. If I just step out wide and catch it, it's not going to get intercepted. Like he could see the whole, you know, the.
00:53:40
Speaker
You know, the multidimensional. It's not that it's not difficult. Just players don't see it. Yeah. And he understood it to a tee. And he just flattens his line and catches it. And the defender is just way out of position. And then boom, two and one on the outside. And he's just focused. It's like so many ways he's focused. Right. That's not instinct. That's him understanding the situation.
00:54:02
Speaker
Yeah. And here's the thing, not a lot of people do it. And I'm sorry, there's no fucking way George Ford's doing that. No. Piss off. Or it's going to run, jump up to the ball and get fucking crushed. Yeah. Well, I'm going to run. I'm going to run back inside. Why the fuck are you running back inside? Right. That's what would have happened to Smith that he'd done that. So, yeah, you know, protecting himself and getting in space at the same time. Ford's not doing that.
00:54:26
Speaker
Yeah. Agreed. Yeah. Watch the match. Just watch it on replay. I might watch it on replay later. I think I'm going to watch it later too. It was so good. All right. Down along the loop around and the free jacks, the mighty free jacks down the Gilgronies.
Free Jacks Win Over Gilgronis
00:54:43
Speaker
That is a good team. They beat my goodness. And they were able to do it with some freaking gusto. That's for sure. Some, some cojones and some glass. Everything is really well done all around.
00:54:54
Speaker
Yeah. Harry Barlow, Harry Barlow. Everybody was keying on Doogie Fife. And when you have something like that happening, you need somebody else to make the magic happen. And Harry Barlow did. He did. He gave him too much space because of the Fife. I mean, he leads the league and tries. But that's exactly what you're saying. He's their strength. Gil Growney said, we're going to take away your strength. What are you going to do about it? And Harry Barlow said, hi.
00:55:24
Speaker
I got it. I got you covered, guys. Don't worry. I know what to do with this one. Yeah. Well done to him. I have to say my two favorite players on this team are John Poland and Joe Johnston. Absolutely. Got to be in my top three. The two of them. Poland is unreal. Yeah. First for being such a pup.
00:55:47
Speaker
Yep, that run to set up that first try was unbelievable and there was a great throw from Jansen too. Don't don't take that away from him, too Yeah, it was it was great I did
00:56:00
Speaker
I did think the official in this game was really not reading the scrum. We talked about how shitty the referees are understanding the scrum. This is another one. End of story. You know, really don't need much more than that. And he accused us of not taking the hit. I'm like, are we watching the same match here? I've had a few, but I'm pretty sure that's not how it's going.
00:56:19
Speaker
Like, when we're going down, going forward. Yeah, so we're not taking the hit? Are you sure? That's right. Like, they're going backwards, you know, right at the hit. It's like, no, they're not taking the hit. Like, you can see it. You have your head. Yeah, it's again, as Jared said, it's not that he just doesn't know what he's looking at. No, doesn't know. So can we get some officials who at least understand what they're looking at?
00:56:47
Speaker
Yeah. It sounds like we have two potential ones and maybe a third. I thought Chaudry was good the other week. You know, see what you will about JP Doyle, but at least he's, he's seen a lot. He's seen a lot more than some of these guys have. So to create enough. And Salmi was doing the Seattle match on Sunday night, the Argentinian referee. So that's, that's pretty cool to have at least them who've got some serious experience at some really high levels. That'll only help the league.
00:57:15
Speaker
So yes, it was really good, really good stuff from the free jacks are the mighty free jacks. And, um, one final note, uh, we talked about Larson's probably not the best player on the New England free jacks. He is absolutely a captain though. I call very much credit to Josh Larson. Um, he is the captain and I, uh, I don't think there's any way that would ever question that at this point, the way, the way he carries himself. So, uh, good on you, Josh. Well done boy.
00:57:42
Speaker
And there are some holes on the team, as we've talked about. That's why they're not at the top yet, right? They're still developing the team, but they really do need some locks. Yeah. I mean, Larson at one lock is fine. No question there. But they still have another one, and then they have one in reserve, and then one in reserve of that. Yeah, and it's kind of like, oh, which one catches fire? The cabinet is empty right now outside of Larson.
00:58:09
Speaker
Um, yeah, hopefully that, that hopefully help us on the way soon. Yeah. So hope so. That was good. And what a fucking experience being there. It was so much fun. I love life. I forgot how much I was texting some of my friends. Like I forgot how much fun life sports is. Yeah. You know, I just really forgot. And it was such a great reminder last week. So I am looking forward to the 29th.
00:58:31
Speaker
Yeah, very much so. Toronto comes in town and yeah, it'll be a good time. So if you're out there in Massachusetts and you're at the Freejacks game and you're listening to this and you haven't introduced yourself to us, please do so because we want to, we had a, I had a lot of fun talking with other people from around the, around the area that I had met through coaching. But yeah, again, if you're on here and you're listening to us and you're going to the Freejacks game, we want to meet you. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. So feel free to hit us up.
00:59:00
Speaker
A little bit around, Noah was able to beat Houston, Atlanta upended Toronto in that battle of Atlanta. Utah 34, GC 33 sounds like it was a nail. Everything was a nail buyer this weekend, just about. Somebody said something about like Zion Stadium being like the most rocking. Well, yeah, Utah has no restrictions right now because they're fucking backwards. So yes, you have all the fans in your stadium dipshit. No wonder that you're able to rock it.
00:59:31
Speaker
fucking hell, I love stupid people. New York up and did the Guiltini's, they did it. My God, did not think it would be able to be done, but they've done it. Holland said played brilliantly in that match for the 10 for New York. Good on it. It's like that onion headline though. What? Worst person you know, makes a good point. LA lost. Nice. It was New York.
00:59:59
Speaker
Damn. Now I'm questioning whether I'm celebrating, but... Well, I think it's a matter of pulling it away to somebody's actual hunk day and they played an away match this year against the arrows, but the arrows aren't playing at home right now. So they actually played a true away match finally, and they found problems.
01:00:22
Speaker
You know, they found a team that was willing to just nut up and I, and I kind of poo poo'd on haremicise and I watched the match and he played brilliantly for New York. So credit to him and the boys from New York. So, uh, good on them. Good on Rooney. And, uh, thank you for knocking those guys off. Everybody. Thanks very much. We can't have, we can't be having somebody run on the table quite like that. Otherwise we are just gonna all be pissed.
01:00:48
Speaker
And then Seattle was able to pull out their first home win of the year. One final note for the Legion, Sam Wuching should be somewhere in
01:01:01
Speaker
the Eagles lineup come this summer. He's played almost every minute for San Diego, a bad San Diego team at that. And they're just getting crushed. And it's really hard to nut up every time when you're playing for a team like that. But he's done it. He's been one of the standout guys for them. So yeah. Loads of credit to him. He'll be on the plane this summer, no doubt. I think he should be in the starting lineup as well.
01:01:27
Speaker
Okay, we have that start to sit thing we talked about before, so let's roll through it as fast as we possibly can. At least there's no FRD to worry about for Pram this year, or this week rather. I believe, yeah, you're leading us off with...
01:01:49
Speaker
We know somewhat of how the defenses are, but totally different going across Tazma in a different competition with different playing styles.
01:02:00
Speaker
I'm not sure how well the Highlander is going to do on this one, but either way, him and O has been just a talisman for them. The team, the fans, everybody loves him. Love it, love it, love it. And he's productive, so that's why. That's one of the reasons why there's so much love. That always helps. Hunt, Nurekki, Tomkinson at 14 and Collins at 13.
01:02:24
Speaker
Huh? Beats me. I'm not really looking forward to either of them. I, you know, not I'd look elsewhere because the Reds have a fucking excellent defense, too. But for the Reds, Liam Wright, James O'Connor. I think I wouldn't worry about the Highlanders being number one against 10s because the 10s in New Zealand play totally different style than James O'Connor will bring much more of a running style. Jock Campbell, Josh Fluke.
01:02:52
Speaker
Um, Phillip, Doug, Uno and Hagerty, um, Hagerty just a worst versus outside back and second worst versus mids.
01:03:00
Speaker
So lots to lots to work with the reds team. Um, all right. Uh, toss and Keynes. Yeah. Uh, Keynes and both teams are pretty leaky, but I'm not as bad as Keynes are pretty leaky. Not as bad as others. Um, should provide some value for the war toss at the very least. Uh, Ben, Ben Donaldson, the, the toss 10 hurricanes are bottom three against fly house. Why not? Let's do it. Take a fly. Um,
01:03:22
Speaker
Will Harris is the best loose forward the Todd's have and the Hurricanes are very weak against loose forwards. So that's probably your guy that you're going to pick out of that that crew there. Todd's front row. You might have another option now that all 10 clubs are playing.
Hurricanes vs Front Rows Discussion
01:03:35
Speaker
Hurricanes are number two versus front rows right now. So that would be something I would consider at this point at the very least.
01:03:42
Speaker
for my mighty hurricanes, cause or dead last in points against per match. So start licking your drops, canes owners. Ruben Love, I have been banging this guy's drum for a while. Taz are dead last against 10s. So he's got the talent to make this an absolute shit show for them. So let's do it. James Blackwell, when is it good to play a random lock? When they're playing the pod and team against locks, the Taz, extra points in your lap, if you can grab either him or walk a little weary, go for it, why not?
Crusaders vs Brumbies Match Analysis
01:04:11
Speaker
Uh, on the other side, read, Prince up Taza, aren't as soft against those forwards as other spots. And I think he's the odd man out in that six hole. This is going to be a fantastic match. I am very much looking forward to it. Two finalists, um, crusaders, Brumby's, uh, going to be hungover shit.
01:04:32
Speaker
Yes. That's what I'm thinking. Agreed. And the Brumby's, they're a good defensive team. And they might be a little aggrieved and you want to, you know, you lose to one championship team, might as well take out another. So anyway.
01:04:50
Speaker
The Brumbies are number one against Loose Forward, so I'd hold off there with the Crusaders. Mwunga, if he plays, I'm assuming he will. Big yes. Again, Brumbies are number one versus outside backs, number two versus mids. But I still wouldn't shy away from that fine gunuku, bridge, Havely, even Reese and Jordan.
01:05:12
Speaker
Yeah, go with them anyway because they just haven't faced a team like the Crusaders anyway. On the Brumbies and Valentini, I think, should have a huge day because the Crusaders will give up points to lose forwards. A little SEO because you just can't not play him. And the Thomases serve banks and right. Yep. Just, yeah, go ahead with them. They're both quite good.
Rebels vs Blues Match Insights
01:05:38
Speaker
Rebels and Blues. This will be interesting. Blues are fourth in points against per match. I do believe we'll find some value for the Rebels though. Rebels front row hasn't been magical this year. Blues are second worst against front rows though, so that's a thumbs up right there. Michael Wells. Blues are tough against those forwards, but there's always one that gets their share, and he seems to always just find a way to get his share. Even if it's only like eight or nine, that's pretty good for a loose forward, so I would give him a yes as long as you don't have another option.
01:06:05
Speaker
On the other side of the coin, Lewis Holland typically lines up in the midfield. You might see him because they're going to probably get a little experimente since what's his face is on his way out, vessels. He's a mid. The Blues are not nice to mids. He's also less as an OB. Pine him. Just, no, that's the one guy that you're probably looking to go bye-bye. On the other side of the coin, Rebels are actually third in points against per match. So, oops. The Blues outfit is completely different from what they've played against though. So, also just let's consider that.
01:06:34
Speaker
Uh, for the blues, Harry Plummer, if he's back at 12, he's worth the role. Rebels aren't strong against them. It feels assuming you're missing a fly half. Um, maybe you are maybe more than it doesn't play this week. L'Alessio, something like that. That could be your option right there. Um, if you have a, if you have to start one of those loose forwards, I think it's a two, two over a carry assuming it's a two, two is the one to eight. Um, just cause of that simple number being on his back usually.
01:07:00
Speaker
That's probably it right there. Whoever is Caleb Clark's replacement, Caleb Clark has left to go pursue the Olympic dreams. Probably not a good week for him. Yes, I agree. Probably not a good week for that person, whether team or whoever it is, AJ Lamb, whoever it is, Ben Lamb's brother. Yes. Pat Lamb's nephew. Yeah. Anyway, probably not a good week to be getting too creative, especially if you're chasing down a playoff spot like some of us are, but not
01:07:30
Speaker
Me.
Force vs Chiefs Match Assessment
01:07:33
Speaker
Force versus Chiefs. So I was doing some research around the force. Because I was like, okay, well, let me see who actually scores well for them. And during my investigation, can I give some real talk here? Not much. Sam Whitelock.
01:07:54
Speaker
the lock has more points this year than anyone on the force. Wow. I mean, I have him, but damn. Aloha, Fela, Miadi, Kahui, Ansti in the front row are close. Like, okay. But
01:08:12
Speaker
But he's a lock. I mean, it speaks a little bit to Sam Whitelock, but it also speaks to the force. But I mean, he doesn't even have that many points. He has 71 points, which is... So no way to craft triple digits. That's decent for a lock. But yeah, like that. Right. For a lock. Yeah.
01:08:28
Speaker
It's a look. So, yeah, I mean, so the people I name, you know, Kubele could could play reasonably well because he's he's kind of been on a late edition and as far as, you know, playing. Yeah, because he signed kind of right towards the beginning of the season had to. Right. Yeah. He had a quarantine all that shit.
01:08:47
Speaker
And the Chiefs are soft against nine, so he could actually have a day and he's probably going to be on the waiver wire. Yeah, Koteca and Ansti, Chiefs are ninth versus loose forward, so there's potential points there. The Chiefs are number three versus fly half, so not worth it from Yadi or McIntyre unless you're fucking in a bind.
01:09:08
Speaker
Oh man, you're not that kind of buying man, but on the other side, it's just open season by an Akoi. If they're the locks, I'm even going down to lock. Yes, start them. Whoo Bashir and so Akula. Yeah, you're going for it this week.
01:09:24
Speaker
Yeah. If Peter Gus plays the way he did last week, I see no reason not to, you know. Right. And, and Bashir has been quite
Chiefs Fantasy Picks Discussion
01:09:30
Speaker
the runner. So, um, he'll get you those, those I've already points to Gatlin is a, there's a fantastic matchup as I think I said Weber, but if I didn't ever. That guy too. And it's as disappointing as I found the back line last week, go for it this week. Um, and even if that one's not started, if, even if they're.
01:09:47
Speaker
Um, they're going with, uh, what's his face? Um, go put their, go with the 10 no matter who it is. Honestly. Yeah. Whoever it is. Somebody worth playing there. I know. I know you talk about, yeah. Um, fuck. I like Gatlin. I only want Gatlin. Yeah. But, but if it's not Gatlin, if it's not him, it's okay. Yeah.
01:10:07
Speaker
Alright, so that brings us to this fun little thing called start instead of the week. After his performance in the latest final, I'm thinking he'll be ready to back it up against an opponent of slightly lesser quality. His club will also be ready to bounce back. So on all that, my start of the week for week 13, first week of trans tasman.
01:10:35
Speaker
And super ugly is the chief midfield star word, Alex make a bill. All right. I like that. Okay. I'm down with that. Um, I think that's a, yeah, excellent. Uh, excellent selection. Mine is, um, I come to get, it's going to be a little bit of hangover, but he's in the starting lineup and I don't really have that much respect for the opponent. Um, let's put it that way. And actually both my start and sit will come from the same match. Um, so, um, my start of the week is for the reds, Filippo d'Anguno.
01:11:04
Speaker
Ooh, I like, I like, I like, I like, yeah, I like, I mean, he came in for a pataya and for unfortunate, but I was going to be out for a wee bits here.
01:11:15
Speaker
but he's been fucking excellent. So yeah, when he's gotten his shot, he's played quite well.
Weekly Start and Sit Player Selection
01:11:21
Speaker
So I'll give you that one for sure. All right. My sit is going to be a bit of a eye popper. I think sometimes this guy will disappear now and again, not through any fault of his own necessarily. He has a lot of help around him and that that'll do it sometimes in terms of your fancy score. It tends to also happen against tough defense is for his sake. So all those factors put into place my, my city of the week for,
01:11:44
Speaker
Week 13, first week of trans tasman, as I said, in Super Rugby is all Blacks and Crusaders flying wingers. Wow. That is like I said, I went on the I went on the limb for this one. Fuck it. Fuck it all. I decided to play it safe on this. You know, I can't. And I questioned it earlier. Michael Collins at 13, especially especially against a team that's so fucking good through the middle.
01:12:15
Speaker
Yeah. I really don't like that 12, 13, 14 combination right there with the, yeah, it's the whole fuck. What's his name? Scott Gregory, who isn't doing shit at 12. No, he is not. Um, Tomkinson is, isn't doing much better at 13 and that you move him out to 14. Yeah, that's, that's a gross one right there. I agree. I don't, I don't know what the, unless the Highlanders have something crazy up their sleeve. Yeah. Right. It's like, what are you guys doing over there?
01:12:43
Speaker
Right. Unless they like invent new types of running lines or, or, or flow lines with these backs. Um, they've got really, like I said, they got some up their sleeve that no one's ever seen before. I'm not really feeling it.
01:12:57
Speaker
Like, I like Tony Brown, but yeah, that's just kind of a, hmm, this is an odd one right here. Okay, moving on. Next. All right, let's
Bath vs Sale Player Review
01:13:05
Speaker
go to the prem. I think I'm leading us off because of Friday night's match. Yep. Bath versus sale. This is going to be a long, long week for TRM. So just keep your eyes peeled as things go.
01:13:15
Speaker
No FRD this week, as we've mentioned. Bath versus sale. Sale are top two in TRM still, shocker of the day. I still think there's some value to be found with the Bathman. Miles Reed, not as highly owned as others, but still worth the play if he's in. Sale are middling to best against flanker. So I love the kid, give him a thumbs up. He's also not super expensive. Anthony Watson, if he's at fullback, he's a play. Sale are second worst against full backs in TRM as well. And his dancing will make them look silly.
01:13:45
Speaker
Another bad week for Will Stewart, unfortunately. So, sale of third against props. So, I'm sorry to say, Mr. Stewart, you're gonna sit him as well. It's just him now in the front row. I know, and he doesn't have any of his cohorts, although I do like Jack Walker, but still, like, nope. Yeah, it was not done. Not this week. Bath, our bottom two in TRM, we get the points against. Surely, we can find something from sale to play, right? Somebody to score. In this format,
01:14:12
Speaker
I'm actually okay with Cobus visa, even if he's in the second row bath or awful again second row so if you have them, give them a thumbs up is not like I've gotten rid of Tom done I don't know who if I'm bringing anybody in this week. Like this is probably not what we come bringing a lot of people in.
01:14:27
Speaker
I said, Cameron Neal's name last week, this week, same thing. He's eligible at Flanker. Bath are awful against Flanker. Again, he's eligible at Hooker. Bath are awful against Flankers. There's the words I was looking for. So if he's in at Flanker, give him a go. That's a pretty good Flanker to hook or to grab there that can play Flanker.
01:14:47
Speaker
very, not quite Barbary, but he's a, he's a good sub.
Wasps vs Worcester Key Insights
01:14:50
Speaker
Um, on the other side of the coin, FAF bath or second worst, it gets crumb halves. But as we pointed out many times, he doesn't do the things that you want for the sake of points, especially when you have guys like Danny care and yearn, Alex Mitchell, Ben Spencer, all out there possibly, you know, with, with points to be had from the, the stuff they do. So sorry, that's still not a good play this week.
01:15:14
Speaker
On to for the still the Rico, right. It's for now, for now, for now, for wasps Worcester Worcester are the worst fantasy defense in the rugby mag. And, but they're strong against props so I know that's funny. Yeah.
01:15:35
Speaker
So, yeah, some people have West. Maybe give him a look elsewhere. Like I said, so sit the props. Tommy Taylor should score pretty well if he's at Hook. I don't know if his face is okay. He's pretty, pretty face. Why would you do that?
01:15:52
Speaker
Don't fuck the face up, Tommy. We didn't even talk about that, but we'll get to it. Fuck.
Leicester vs Harlequins Analysis
01:15:59
Speaker
There are better options than Tommy Young or Brad Shields, especially for the value. There's not good value in TRM, so that's the only reason I'm saying avoid them. They'll probably score okay, but not worth, you can get more for less. Rob Miller has been just dog shit lately.
01:16:17
Speaker
Everyone else is a go. Obviously, Le Bourgeois. There's always the Le Bourgeois exception. I really do think, though, that Wasps have found their 12-13 combination there with Fekitoa and Odogwu. I think there's no doubt that that's the lineup. I really hope they stick with that, and that will do very well in this match. On the other side,
01:16:41
Speaker
Just like they did last week to Danny care who guard. I expect a lower result so maybe worth a bench spot this week but definitely not a start.
01:16:54
Speaker
of the flankers, Ted Hill might be only good option. Um, wasps are number one against, um, eights, but although they're bad against flankers, I just don't like their eights or six options right now. Yeah. Maybe Sam, maybe Sam Lewis, if he pulls his head out of his ass, maybe, but yeah, I got to, he's a gotta see a guy. He is going back a ways. He's he's been mediocre for a while. It's disappointing. No, it is. Don't touch whoever's at 10.
01:17:20
Speaker
Um, the wasps are fifth versus centers, third versus wings and eighth versus 15. So maybe Nick David, if he plays everyone else from Worcester, you can have a better option somewhere else.
01:17:33
Speaker
which is not usually bad, but yeah, I don't disagree. All right. Uh, Lester and Quinn's Quinn's are middle of the pack and TRM points again. So you should find a few spots to find joy for Lester for the tigers. Um, I can't believe I'm saying this Ben Young's hollow twins are bottom against scrum half. So yeah, exactly. My thoughts. Exactly.
01:17:52
Speaker
If they choose to go with him or, or even if they choose to go with Wiggles, it's probably fine. Jack Vanport leads an absolute go if he's in there. I love his playing styles for especially for this format. Cobus Van Vic could be an okay option this week. Kyle cleanser approaching bottom against wings. So if you have him, this is probably the week to finally fucking throw him into your lineup.
01:18:15
Speaker
Mateus Moroni. I love him. I think he's been great for their club, but this is not great because Carla Quincy get our second best against centers. Maybe put him on your bench.
01:18:25
Speaker
because I think you might still find some way to produce, but you just don't want to risk it as him as a starter. Lester on the other side, our fourth against TRM and TRM against points against, but this is the Quinn's team that just has so much firepower. So let's think about that as well. There's a lot of the obvious names. I want to throw a couple other ones out there.
01:18:46
Speaker
Joe Marler, he's pretty damn expensive, but he could be worth the penny that you've paid this week, unless they're our second worst against props. So go for it. Our man policy kill turned to the lineup this week. If he's in, because we saw Clint's kind of getting decimated with their midfield a little bit, they're very injury-ridden. Let's start our middle of the pack.
01:19:11
Speaker
Yeah, Lester R. Brownie. We didn't even talk about that. Lester, I'm middle of the pack against centers and I'd put him as a strong consideration as well if you've plunked down for him.
01:19:23
Speaker
And this is not a week to get cute with Kenningham or Lade Lester our second against flankers. So as much as a cute option as that sounds, maybe try another week. Kenningham did get all his like he got how many tackles did he have? He had a lot of tackles. That alone will get you those points in
01:19:42
Speaker
in TRM. So that's the only reason why some players like that are matchup proof, but that's the only thing I would say on Kenningham's behalf. He still will get you the tackles.
01:19:58
Speaker
Okay, over to Newcastle
Newcastle vs Northampton Forward Focus
01:20:00
Speaker
Northampton. This is an interesting fantasy matchup. I fucking love it. The Saints have moved up to the third overall defense, but mostly by just shutting down forwards. They're still leaky towards backs, but here's the trouble for the Falcons.
01:20:15
Speaker
Um, they really went through their forwards last week. Yeah. Robinson, McWiggin, McWiggin, Callum, Chick had 32. Oh yeah. I'm sorry. 31. Um, those were their biggest scores. Connan had 32, but that was like seven conversions and a penalty. So that you had to have the kicking aspect to get me those points. And I don't know who the fuck would start and give the K to Connan over any other options. So, um,
01:20:39
Speaker
Either way, don't you can't expect something like that because if Newcastle can't really go through their forwards. I'm sorry. Yeah, Newcastle can't go through their forwards. It's going to be trouble for their backs because their backs aren't.
01:20:50
Speaker
like their backs aren't game winners by themselves. They're not, they're not there yet. Um, the help. Yeah. Uh, so Maguigan might be worth a bench spot at best. Um, Sancer number two versus hookers, but he's pretty good no matter what. Um, and, and could go off for 30. Um, you don't want that, you know, you'd rather have 15 on your bench and, and maybe deal with like two or three, but still have a solid starter.
01:21:16
Speaker
Um, the third versus second row. So Peterson and Robinson are if he, um, Callum chick has been Callum chick has been great. Might be worth a shot again. Um, if you got them on your team, maybe throw them in your bench on the other side, fucking everyone, uh, ribbons and wood. I'm going locks here. Um, yeah.
01:21:35
Speaker
Ludlum, Newcastle are worst versus second row and flankers. So yeah, your ribbons is your wood, your Ludlums go. Harrison, even their eighth versus eighth, I wouldn't go with Aidendorf. Lots of Aids in there, but Harrison, go. Bigger, Grayson, go nuts. And the centers and wings all should have big days.
01:22:01
Speaker
Yeah. Wow. Yeesh. Yeesh. Yeesh. All right. Bristol and Gloucester. Bristol remain number one in points against
Bristol vs Gloucester Strategic Analysis
01:22:11
Speaker
per match. And it's just bad news. Gloucester will be feeling themselves a little bit after last week, though. So that helps. I'd sit LRZ for this one anyway.
01:22:20
Speaker
Ed Slater, he's their best lock and there's usually one second row that does well and that was a great try that he scored by the way. We didn't talk about it, but that was a really good one. Yeah, so he's their best second row. Bristol usually give up points to one second row. I think he's the winner. Dun-dun-dun. Santi Cavares, I think will have a lot of attention being given to LRZ.
01:22:42
Speaker
He might be the one that finds the space in that case. So we'll see if you got to start one of them. That's probably the one. Not that I don't live at LRC. Billy 12 trees, especially if he's at fly half is not a good one this week. Bristol are number one against fly halfs. And that's not his best position. Let's be real. Also, why is Josh Gray 6% owned from Loster? That's not Johnny Gray, guys.
01:23:07
Speaker
And he hasn't played a minute this year. He hasn't even played a minute. So those are people that are probably just kind of got their heads up their bums. Just listen. If you're here and you have Josh Gray, get rid of him. Please, please, do yourself a favor. Just save yourself some money. For Jared's sanity. Yeah, for everybody's sanity. I mean, it's not much, but man, that's 100. That's 100 odd in backing your kitty, you know? That's true. Oh, yeah. It might be people who got him and now he's a paper. He's one of those lightweight paperweights that they're the worst because they don't get to anything. Just ditch him. Just ditch him.
01:23:36
Speaker
Do it, do it now before everybody else does. Juanita said the coin Gloucester are eighth in TRM points again, so this match might make it worse. Oh, where to begin. CIP Atal, I'm good with this week in this format. He does enough and isn't super expensive. Gloucester are awful against centers. So if he's in there, go ahead. We'll keep on. If it's not Bubbles, he's still a winner. Yeah, he is. Yeah, Gloucester are bottoming against Hookers, so that's a big old thumbs up. What if Thacker comes back?
01:24:07
Speaker
She's coming back. He was going to be available. I'm just wondering. Yeah. He had a, he had a backwards step. Unfortunately, I think so, man, but hopefully we still see him soon. Um, the sheetie cluster actually number two right behind Bristol was against first fly off.
01:24:27
Speaker
But he's a different breed. So if you have someone else, make sure he's on your bench. Or if you see someone else said someone else, and they can play somewhere else, like Joe Simmons, chicken moo moo, who are both fullback eligible, maybe stick them there and put Chidi at fly off because he'll be fine. I'm sure it'll be fine. But again, like if you're like Ben or Ben and I, we both have Marcus Smith.
01:24:51
Speaker
Sorry, this is not the week to get cute. Keep shooting on the bench. Just leave them there. It'll be all right. I promise. Oh, starts in six of the week.
Irish vs Exeter Match Considerations
01:25:01
Speaker
Oh, I still have the Irish versus Exeter. Oh, fuck sake. Oh, that's right. That's on like Tuesday, isn't it? Yeah. So Exeter can be had in the forwards, really in the tight five. And that's about it. And the Irish are just soft defensively. So your Hoskins, your Creevy, not even, I know he's
01:25:24
Speaker
You know, I think he's still lightly owned, but, um, he's also very cheap. So he's, what was it? Two 17, only 1% selected. Um, he, and he scores pretty decently when he, when he plays. So, I mean, he's been kind of, you know, stuck behind mafia and, and Simmons a little bit there. So, but if, if mafia's obviously if mafia's healthy, go fucking with him. Um, uh, but otherwise, yeah. Um, that.
01:25:49
Speaker
Simmons, as I said earlier, holdoff on Tui Tui and Cowan. Um, because again, the exit are pretty good against the back rowers. Um, Nick Phipps or whoever is at nine could actually score pretty well. Exeter are leaky there, but everyone else know, um, their exit are fourth versus tens third versus centers and first versus wings and full backs. So all those London Irish people that you had love and cherish so much on your team, uh, they're, they're cheap, right? So put them on the pine and start someone else.
01:26:19
Speaker
Keep them there. On the other side, Sam Skinner, the Johnnies, Richard Capstik, the Simmonses, none of their nines. You stay away from the Exeter nines. Stay away. I might hold off on Slade. Irish are pretty good versus centers. But whoever's in the back three, just go. Go. Enjoy.
01:26:41
Speaker
Yeah, I hope Will Flaherty pulls himself out of his own ass there. This would be a good match for that. But he's always been a streaky guy. He's one of those guys who will go off for 30 plus points for three or four matches in a row and then disappear for five. That's just his style, it seems. That's the way it's been. Inconsistent, I think they call it. Yeah, something like that.
01:27:06
Speaker
All right, now we can do starters in the weeks. Damn midweek matches. So for my start, this guy's form has picked up tremendously over the last few weeks and he's starting to believe himself. And again, his opposition make this week extra tasty paired with his form. I said the start of the week for week 19 of the prime for TRM only is lost young superstar and Tana's nephew, Jacob Umaga.
01:27:30
Speaker
I'm so glad I made my change at the last minute. I'm really glad that you wanted to be him, didn't you? It was going to be him. And then I realized, I was like, wait a minute. There's someone who I have not had as my start of the week. I think in a long, long past the requisite, however many weeks it, I just stopped enforcing it all because we just don't do it anymore anyway. But my start of the week has
01:27:57
Speaker
everything about him from his boot to his fucking giant nads to his awesome hair. Marcus Smith. That's a good one. Oh, shit. I love it. I love it. Yes. All right. I'll back that.
01:28:14
Speaker
I was like, yeah, I'll change away from Umaga because I thought I was like, we probably need to go the same route because we both are really enjoying his play. So I figured I'd go Marcus Smith because you'd shy away from the obvious ones. Close second. I had to give him his due. Close second. Oh, man, how's it going? All right. So the week I mentioned him not too long ago and I just don't love this match for him.
01:28:34
Speaker
He's pretty dependent on his boot for points. And I'm not sure how many opportunities this is going to be for him on the cards here. So my Cyla week for week 19 of the prom in TRM only is former England and current glossary utility back, Billy smoke and 12 trees. Yeah. Just dislike that matchup this week. Yeah, very much so mine. I didn't mention him by name when I did the preview, but for a reason, because there could have been any number of these, these people.
01:29:03
Speaker
Um, but I'm going to go with the guy who you've, you've really been depending on for, for points on a lot of teams. And in this case, just don't, don't touch him. Don't touch him. Exeter are going to let all likelihood, right? Again, um, shut down Ollie Hassell Collins. So sit him. Yeah. He's probably going to my bench this week. Unfortunately, he's done quite well though. All right. Yeah. I mean, the bench is a fair cause it's one of those in case he goes off. Um, stick them now.
01:29:29
Speaker
Yeah. You get, you get, you know, half the points, which is still great. I fucking, I, my bench rocked it this past week. And that always helps. I ended up in the top hundred. It's like, I had good, good starters in some cases, but not, yeah. Having, having, you know, your bench players go off is amazing.
01:29:46
Speaker
Yeah, that always helps. Okay, so a quick whip around for the Champions League. FRDs were very much decided this week. I was able to upend Ben in this one, but you did. You beat the pants off me in another matchup, but that's because I also mailed it in because
01:30:04
Speaker
I wasn't dropping anybody. I was already locked in. I was like, fuck that dude. I'm not dropping anybody just to fucking get a lineup for a dead match for me. Fuck off. I still scored the most points in the league. So yeah, you scored a buck 87. Right. Um, yeah, you weren't really, you were not going to be competitive and it's not, you know, so it didn't really matter anyway. I had Rona and Brown in that team.
01:30:27
Speaker
Yeah, but I beat you in the champions league at least. So I was able to secure my spot in that one. Uh, I'm going to take on Mark in the semi final, not this coming week, the week after, uh, it is Carrick and Anton in the champion, other championship, uh, bracket, the semi, uh, cyclo bracket is Duncan against George and Ben gets Justin on the other side of it. Um, let's go down to the supers. I had, I had no shot in the dark. So he can't on top of me easily.
01:30:58
Speaker
Yeah, it looks like, and she's, Carrick put up another stinker. Minus points again for Carrick. He probably had like one or two guys that happened. So he lost to Justin. You were able to beat Mark, which was helpful for you. And in a pillow fight, George beat Duncan. Let's see. Only two weeks left in that motherfucker. God damn. Wow. Okay. So that'll be, that means I'm definitely out anyway, but it doesn't matter. I'll still keep fighting.
01:31:24
Speaker
Uh, George and, George and Justin do battle. You get character this week.
Champions League and Super Rugby Updates
01:31:29
Speaker
I've got, uh, my hands on Duncan and Mark and Anton will do battle in super rugby leaderboard in the TRM prem. Hasn't really moved a whole lot in the last couple of weeks. Uh, let's see, uh, like the, there's no movement this week. There's zero movement this week. Well, there's an actually separation.
01:31:49
Speaker
Yeah, I'm closing down Duncan, right? So it's now we're heading towards and I know we have only four weeks left. I think it's fair to say. Remember, this carries through the semi files and finals. Oh, that's right. So there's still okay. There's still a bit more time than that. But
01:32:08
Speaker
Yeah, there's, I mean, there's almost 100, there's over a hundred points difference now between Duncan and me at the two, three gap there. And I'm totally 25 behind Anton. So I'm hoping that means it's just me and the Safa.
01:32:23
Speaker
Yeah, we'll see. We'll see on the next couple of weeks. Go tell us whether or not somebody's chasing down first and second or somebody's trying to chase down third or third and fourth. Right. But after I know, yeah, after fourth, there's a long gap. There's like 300 points or so. Yeah. Thankfully, I was able to make some gap there. Yeah. And George. So keep that top four position. Stay there. Yeah. All right. Super rugby trans Tasman. Wow. Here we are. OK. Highlanders Reds.
01:32:54
Speaker
Reds. I'm taking the highlanders. I think the Reds gonna be hungover to fuck and they're going across the pond. They are, but I don't really have much respect for the highlanders and I don't like the lineup they put out so.
01:33:05
Speaker
Yeah, I don't love it either, but I think I think Nurek could get the hat trick done. There we go. Taz hurricanes. I'm going to take my canes. Yeah, I am too. The Taz are... Jordy Barrett. Hello. The Taz are just... I feel bad for them in this comp. Yeah. Penny was... This is not what you want to do. Yeah. Firing Penny was the worst move they made. It just kills... That team is just mentally... Right now. Yeah, they're drained. Crusaders at home against the Brumbizz.
01:33:37
Speaker
Uh, I see. I think in this case, the Crusaders might be a little, I think there's, there's more will to win on the Brumbies potentially than the Crusaders. Um, thankfully the Crusaders are home, so I'll take the home team. Yeah. I'm going to go with the Brumbies. Fair enough. Uh, Rebels and Blues. This will be interesting. Like another one. It's, it's tough. Um, yeah.
01:34:00
Speaker
I thought the blues are better than like this, you know, the blues need a bounce back, right? They, they should have been in the final, um, in our TRL. And I think this is going to be somewhat of a revenge tour because they need to, they, I think there, there's going to be a deep motivation there. So blues, I will also go with the blues, uh, four shifts.
01:34:22
Speaker
I will, I will take your chiefs. Yeah. The hungover. They'll be all right. Um, even, even so, I think even with that, even then with, with that wee bit of a hangover, I'm going to go with, we would go with them. They also might be on a little bit of a revenge tour because of that, you know, they might just want to make it to, you know, see what they can do to make it to the finals. So, right. So again, did we come, did we cover them all? We did cover them all. So they count that right. I just don't, I just don't know how to do math. That's okay, man. Something's wrong here. All right.
Premiership Matches Predictions
01:34:50
Speaker
Bath sale Friday night.
01:34:52
Speaker
I don't want to say sale, but I'm going to say so. Yeah, same. I feel gross saying it, but I think that's going to be it. Wasp Wooster. That's good. Tonking. Yep. Ouch. I got to figure out if we can find a way to bet on rugby from over here. Yeah, right. I would put money on that.
01:35:13
Speaker
All right, anyway, Lester Quinn's Quinn's Quinn's. Yeah, even if Lester front up, I still think things take it. Newcastle, Northampton. I think this is one of the matches that gets that gets fans saints. I don't know about Newcastle. I think they're at home. I think they get fit. If I remember from right, they're getting fans. So yeah, OK. That's fine. Bristol Gloucester. Oh God, Bristol getting fans back at home. Yeah, Bristol all day. And then Irish Exeter.
01:35:41
Speaker
Okay. So this is another one where the fans will be there and Exeter again are shaky at the moment. Um, but I'm still going to go with Exeter. Same. Yeah. Irish did not do themselves any favors last week. No, that's going to be a, uh, maybe looking at them side eye for a little bit.
01:36:00
Speaker
Yep. I think so too. They, they, they will have to prove a few things at this point as well. Okay. Wow. We covered quite a bit. Um, thanks for hanging out with us guys. We really do appreciate it. And I understand that Ben, I love to just open our faces a lot, but that's how she goes, right? Especially once the beer flows, I could just talk. Yeah, sure. No, no worries. No problems. All right. Um, key points.
01:36:24
Speaker
get our friend, the fancy Ruby geek of coffee, get you to your own upgrades. Um, hopefully they'll start doing some sort of deal where it bleeds in the next year. That'd be good to them. Um,
01:36:35
Speaker
Try that. Yes. Second tier Champions League. Get at us. We want you. We need you. All that good stuff. Fancy very good podcast at gmo.com. Tweet at Ben or I. Trans Tasman. Have fun with that one this weekend. It should be very interesting to say the least. And we will we'll catch you guys next week. Thanks a lot for hanging out with us as always. Appreciate it. Later.