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Episode 19 Part 2; Super Rugby Round 1 and Pick 'Em for all Comps
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It's part two of this weeks pod, someday we'll find a way to condense this down to an hour. In this pod, James joins Ben and Jarrod and talk about all things Super Rugby including a look back at some fantastic opening weekend matches. Is Quade back!? How much is Brad Thorn and company kicking themselves? Speaking of kicking themselves, how much will the Chiefs be kicking themselves this week? What happened to the Stormers? We talk about all that and don't miss our predictions for all the ruggers happening this weekend.
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Transcript
Introduction to Super Rugby & Weekly Pick'Em
00:00:00
Speaker
Hey everyone, it's Jared again from Fantasy Rugby Yanks. Like last week, this part includes Super Rugby and it also includes our Pick'Em for the Week. Everybody kick back and enjoy.
Chiefs' Performance & World Cup Preparations
00:00:16
Speaker
Super Rugby Week 1. There was some good rugby in this too. There was a lot of things happened. There was a lot of crazy stuff.
00:00:27
Speaker
to my mind, you're everybody that didn't listen last week. Ben has chose to back the chiefs chefs from Hamilton and he has put his yearly curse on the team after
00:00:42
Speaker
Well, they they were doing fine until Aaron Smith came in I know I they I read that they were the was it the highlanders were Or hurricanes or whoever were highlanders were we're gonna rest players. Yeah Why
00:00:59
Speaker
Well, no, they they he came in second half. He didn't even start a lot. A lot of the Kiwi teams rested there. Right. I mean, the Chiefs rested a bunch, too. Yes. No Damien Mack. Do we know why? I mean, I presume because that this tournament kind of abuts what's going to be the beginning of the training camp for the World Cup for these teams.
Super Rugby's Early Season Challenges
00:01:18
Speaker
So they're trying to cycle in some rest when they can. Interesting. Yeah. That'd be my guess. A lot of all black sat throughout the throughout the no bone bearing for hurricanes.
00:01:27
Speaker
yet the one australian team lost when it was playing in the team yep um but the chiefs they always put the no sam canes hurt so i did somewhat curse them though myself by saying you know that they that the chiefs remind me a lot about of kind of the the french side where they have they have a way to play but they don't vary it and that's kind of what happened i mean they had a night they had a 1910 lead at half
00:01:54
Speaker
Which they had 24 10 lead shortly after that after the half started, right? And and the first half was kind of there was a lot of rust Yep, and all of a sudden they came out of second half and and and that was true through all the matches that I saw There was a lot of rust kicking off. Yep A lot of guys a lot of a lot of good open field play as you'd expect in super rugby Yeah, there's a lot of misconnections though. So
00:02:20
Speaker
Still guys working on on getting back to full full pace. It's right for for the the rugby fans that we are having been watching the the premiership or you know any of the champions cup and then six nations these are all teams and players that are
00:02:37
Speaker
Running on all cylinders. They they've been playing for a while. They're they're in you'd say mid-season form and then you go down to Super Rugby and they're just not there yet. There's kind of it's kind of frustrating because you're like, man, I want to see the excellent rugby that they can pull it out It'll get there, but it's just
Impact Players & Fantasy Draft Rugby
00:02:58
Speaker
gonna take a couple weeks
00:02:58
Speaker
Yep. So, um, one thing I think the chief can rue is they'd missed a lot of kicks. I miss a lot of kicks and, you know, only losing by what? Three. That's that, that, that really bites. Yeah. They missed a lot of, of a lot of things. Yeah. And that what they weren't alone. So it's one of those kind of a flip of the coin thing. But Aaron Smith, man, he changed that game. He sneaks in there and scores the winner.
00:03:21
Speaker
This is a credible try. Yep, very good. So this is Ben and I's first go around with a fancy draft rugby. Any of those scores stand out to you on the sheet there? I don't know what's good or not. On the sheet. Yeah, so I mean, I figure, you know, Danny's probably good. I put the notable names and the notable scores. Obviously, Birdie Retella came up after the red card. What did you think of the red card? I was like, yeah. Justin Marshall didn't like it.
00:03:52
Speaker
I thought it was kind of a softer red card, but I thought it was a red. I thought it was a kind of desert shoulder to the head So it is a red card, right? Well, the thing that they were talking one of the law. Yes. Yeah, and he and to me He wasn't it. I don't think he was attempting to wrap
00:04:08
Speaker
the way yeah i can't i wasn't convinced of it his arm was was trailing behind him right and and i know the announcers tried to sell it yeah justin marshall was definitely trying to sell it he brought his arm up
Controversial Decisions & Rebels' Potential
00:04:18
Speaker
at the left it's like no he brought his arm up after contact right you can argue about it that you know but no it was there was no attempt to to me there was no attempt to wrap shoulder straight to the head yeah yep i understand the controversy but but i would i would always lean towards red on that just for the for safety's sake
00:04:35
Speaker
Yeah, so yeah, I wasn't overly convinced of it. Obviously, not nice to Turo with a double. A couple of kick, kick, catch, and runs. That was, yeah, watching him was pretty cool. Yeah, looked good.
00:04:53
Speaker
Anton Leonard Brown was Amazing magical feet. That was the one good part of my team putting his hand up for the all blacks again again Yeah, he I think he's overlooked a lot. Yeah, which is unfortunate Magic feet the only good part of my team was Anton Leonard Brown. Everybody else is terrible. I got hosed. Yeah 40 points. Yeah, I had One other guy who did alright, but the front row did did be good But I would have done better if I had started the highlanders
00:05:21
Speaker
Yep, probably no, they yeah, they had six more points. There you go Yeah, nothing will save me. I have my whole my whole lineup was and yeah, and I had I had too many guys who were out Yeah, so I didn't I had no midfielders that that ended up starts playing. Oh, jeez So I'm not gonna you only have a limited roster so I couldn't right cut people and you can't just hack people off Yeah, and what am I gonna cut Reese Hodge or currently Beal or Ryan Crotty? No, no, no So I mean I'm gonna eat the L this week. Yeah
00:05:49
Speaker
And it's a long season long season got a lot of weeks. Um, so chiefs win 27 30 uh chiefs lose. Sorry islanders win 30 27 on uh late try from erin smith Uh to open the weekend. It was a it was a good match. Uh rebels rumbies I have been waiting for the return of quaid cooper for a very long time Wow, I mean brad thorne can suck it
00:06:12
Speaker
he's watching that game going oh my what have I done you know he let him go for a whole year quid Cooper went and played just regular club rugby with just like it pretty much was average Joe guys throughout that team you know he didn't go anywhere else he stayed where he wanted to be
00:06:28
Speaker
I mean that, you know, for a guy who was definitely was a very much hated player for a while, you can't hate him anymore for that. He shows up. That was an overall. Also, the Rebels, their back line was incredible. Yeah, Maddox was really good.
00:06:44
Speaker
Billy Meeks, who's, you know, he's a beast. He's a beast. He's like very unassuming and he's very strong. And he's also got a gif of him on Instagram, which I found and tagged him in. Nothing yet from Billy. Billy, come on, man. But, you know, Cooper and Gennier reuniting. Fantastic to see you. Yeah, that was really cool. English is good. Tom English is also a great player as well.
00:07:08
Speaker
Rebels man, I mean, it's you know, it was a shame to see Western Force go out like that because there needs to be rugby in Western Australia Yeah, because they're so goddamn far away Right, and I know they play in a different world tournament don't really know much about it. No but good to see those guys coming together rebels are gonna be the number one Australian team and
00:07:30
Speaker
I really hope they can compete. Yeah, I wouldn't bet against that.
Injuries & Player Comebacks
00:07:34
Speaker
The test is playing against New Zealand teams. Yeah, the QB teams. What that's going to be like. I have no doubt they can beat South African teams. Yeah. It'll be hard on the road, but they can do it. All the road in this competition is hard either way. It doesn't matter who you are. Yeah, exactly. The travel as well. It's very difficult. So amazing to see the Rebels come together like that. It was an away game as well. It was in Canberra. Yep.
00:07:57
Speaker
Yeah, very, very good game for the Rebels. 34, 27 over the Brumbies. My guy, David Pocock, out in five minutes. My whole, I had two loose forwards. Pocock and Khaleesi, I got .3 total from the two of them. I had a rough day at loose forwards. My only other one was Kieran Reed, and that was it. That's all I, then he didn't play, so.
00:08:25
Speaker
But his replacement, Pete Samu, woo. He had a couple of nice scampers that, I mean, just came over from the Crusaders, looks really good. Looks like somebody that the Australian fans should be very excited about. He's got a couple caps, wallaby caps. Yes, he does. So, yeah, he is definitely a great. Great find for them. Great find for them. He's Pocock on his way out.
00:08:49
Speaker
Uh, he might be, you know, what you, maybe he'll try and go for the world cup, but, and then hang them up. Yeah. I think he's, he's, he's such a good player, but he's been beaten up so much. He took that years sabbatical. He's been, he's been not playing and he's been hurt when he does play. To me, it's like, can he, can he still bring it anymore?
00:09:11
Speaker
He had a great year last year. Don't dismiss that, but yeah, you're not wrong in where he's probably getting worn out. And he's got that whole, him and his wife, because he's originally from Zimbabwe. Right. And so he's got this...
00:09:27
Speaker
I don't know what exactly it is, but he has this organization over there that he helps, you know, people in Zimbabwe. And he's, I think he's also very much involved with the wildlife there and protecting endangered species. I mean, overall, again, class act. Yes. Class act on and off the pitch. Not dismissing that by any means. Yeah, absolutely.
00:09:50
Speaker
What was the other name that stood out to me? Christian Leo Lofano. Yeah. Good for him. Again, what a great story. I'm glad he's back. Continuing to play at this high level after going through, you know, cancer treatment for leukemia. It's just pretty cool to see this guy just step his game up. One other note for the Rebels. They have Matt Tamua on his way over after he's done with the Luster Tigers.
00:10:16
Speaker
Do you have so many options
Crusaders vs. Blues Analysis
00:10:18
Speaker
in this bet? That's pretty terrifying. If I'm an Australian team, I am not happy about that. I know the Rebels have a lot of money behind them as well. They're in an incredibly cool city. You have the Storm there and the NRL who constantly are, if not, winning the NRL or top.
00:10:39
Speaker
So, it's a sporting town as well as a culture town. It just pisses me off because I used to travel to Melbourne all the time for work. Really? Not anymore. That's cool. And then they didn't, the rebels weren't there. As soon as I... As soon as they stopped. They were waiting for you to stop. 2011. I knew you'd come over there and be an asshole. Yeah. So, rebels 134, 27. Melbourne.
00:11:02
Speaker
Yeah. From Melbourne, you say Melbourne. So defending champs kicked off the season against the Blues. It was an interesting game. It was close. It had a weird feel to it, honestly. Terry Black didn't play terribly well. I feel like if he had played better for the Blues, this game actually goes very differently. But also, Blues game plan was to win it with eight people and the eight people being their forwards.
00:11:30
Speaker
No, I know akira yawani is a gigantic enormous monster, but you got to get to rico Uh, otherwise you're not going to win. Well the question then is what do you you know with the crusaders having a bunch of guys?
00:11:42
Speaker
Yeah, that was that was there. That's what I'm saying. This is their opportunity to win with with Reed and Whitelock and yeah, Izzy Dagg not playing, you know, yeah, that should have been it. Do you think they're going to start saying this is, you know, time up for if they keep losing for Tano Amaga or you think he is not their head coach? That's right. You're right to defense, I believe. So but I'm glad he got there. Yeah, he did. He was. So yes, they did.
00:12:11
Speaker
That was a softball question for you guys. Yeah, so I was a little disappointed with the way the Blues ended up playing out there. And Nana is back, clearly wants to play in the World Cup. Yep. Yeah, he's already staying. Sonny Bob Williams was on the bench. I mean, you know, you got these guys that are, I mean, they're stalwarts to New Zealand rugby, but they're also up there. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, we were talking about it the other week.
00:12:40
Speaker
I think it was Collins that made a huge blunder for the Blues at the back and basically handed Mattielli a try. That kind of sounded like the way the Blues played and the fact that it was this close is pretty terrifying if that's how it's going to happen.
00:12:58
Speaker
I was pretty disappointed with the Blues. I used to I used to kind of be a Blues fan like especially back when I had like Carlos Spencer like back in those days. But they frustrated the fuck out of me last year. Clearly your curse continues on them as well. There's a reason I'm moving myself around trying to find a team to stick with.
00:13:17
Speaker
Clearly. NR from the Crusaders though. He's certainly putting his hand up saying, hey, don't bench me just because you bring those other guys back. Good for him. Just put a couple over the line. So, Crusaders win 24-22. Again, if the kicking game and the fly half game from the Blues go just a little bit better, this game is probably a different story. My boys, hurricanes.
00:13:44
Speaker
Barely squeak it out. Again, with a lot of DNP's. Yeah. Tuplessi Kharifi. God bless you. Yeah, right. Remember that name. Loose forward for hurricanes, scored the winner. Kid's aggressive. He seems to be taking after Artie in a lot of ways. And paid off in a good way.
00:14:14
Speaker
What is the deal behind his last name? It's like they took the duplices prop brother's first last name. Yeah, like Bismarck duplicity, but no, I have no idea where Jared text me the name and I'm like
00:14:31
Speaker
Who the hell is that guy? Goosen who plays for yeah, and he's South African. Yep, but I think now he probably qualifies for New Zealand there for a while and he's good You know, so yeah, yeah, they're outside backs are stacked. That's one thing I was going on Yeah, they're outside backs were stacked Matt Proctor dropped late
00:14:54
Speaker
From the from the lineup actually giving his brother Billy a chance to get into the lineup But eventually got on the field for his first hurricanes gap price. Yep Ben Lamb also fantastic gigantic man to be playing on the wing. Yeah, my god He was he that's just mean that's the game. That's how the game is. No, it's just every day It blows my mind that you know these guys that are just massive massive
Hurricanes' Narrow Victory & Waratahs' Challenges
00:15:17
Speaker
units are playing on the way back in the day when it was This is kind of a
00:15:22
Speaker
somewhat of a personal story between me and Jared from a while back, where this is when Aaron Judge was just tearing it up in major league baseball. And so for those of you who don't know, Jared's a personal trainer. And I saw Judge just destroying things. And he's huge, too. He's like, what, six, seven, something ridiculous. And I'm like, this is all your fault. And Jared's like, what are you talking about? Guys who are that large, even like five, 10 years ago,
00:15:50
Speaker
weren't trained. They were fucking. They were just fatties. Yeah. Or not just fatties, but they had no no coordination. Oh, hell no. Hell no. Full work was terrible. Like they just couldn't do things because they you know, they weren't.
00:16:05
Speaker
They weren't able to do a lot of the things that train a lot of the ways that, you know, smaller people could, or even like, you know, chubbier people could. Um, so, so now all of a sudden you have different, you know, people teaching, you know, it's more about, uh, training is more about how to move and use your athleticism in different ways. And that's why you have these, some of these big fellows, how to move, use their feet, man.
00:16:27
Speaker
So so if you know you see all these uh, um, these big men out in the wing who can actually fucking run and and they have footwork It's people like jared's fault. So Yeah, um, tj parinara had to play ten at this at one point in this game That was not good. I'll have to go back and watch that because I was unaware of this. Yeah Yeah, I have they had one replacement left and it was just and um
00:16:50
Speaker
Wasn't Blackwell. I think it was was the Scrum. He is tiny. Or Smith, whatever it was, was there was a fly half and he got hurt. I was like, Oh, this is not good. What are we gonna do? We've already started our other fly half off. So that's what they did. And then that was our last stop. They only had a Scrum half left. So I was like, I wonder how this is gonna go. I figured like
00:17:10
Speaker
Somebody from the back like Jordy Barrett was gonna step in and play ten. No, it makes sense. But nope, they went with that. It works. You're scrumming it out in the wing or something. Yeah, hide them or somewhere, right? They only go to the line that the war does it mean?
00:17:25
Speaker
obviously a couple of key players, Kirtly, Bill and Phipps. Phipps were out. Both banged up, so. And then they're troublemakers. Yes. But Adam Ashley Cooper was back in the lineup. Yeah, it was cool to see him right there. Excited to see him. A few more gray hairs than he did last time. Once upon a time. Israel Fallow picks up where he left off. The guy. Gigantic man. He shakes off so many tears. He really does. And that sets up that Curtis Rona try, which was great to see.
00:17:55
Speaker
And the Warters are, I don't know what the story is, but they're playing not at ANZ Stadium, as they say. They're playing at the something oval. Well, they're playing all over because I guess they're redoing all these at the park. Okay, so they're going to kind of jump around the Sydney suburbs. I think so, yeah. So if people aren't aware, Sydney has like a million different suburbs. Yes. And each, definitely each of them have like an almost like their own NRL team.
00:18:19
Speaker
Jeez and rugby union. It's just it's really isn't as popular even though there's more money behind it, right? then Then then rugby league, so I think maybe it'll help drum up interest in the sport Because you have tea high we'll see there's so much to talk about the ratings weren't fantastic for this opening weekend unfortunately for Australia so because they are fighting two other
00:18:43
Speaker
Yeah, two other contact collision sports. Well, I mean the NRO isn't even In season yet. No, I mean they might have a bit of cricket on right now, but you just go there for the piss As a lot of people do But yeah, you know, I think if anything that's gonna turn it around for Ozzy rugby, it's gonna be the rebels. I
00:19:07
Speaker
Yeah, hopefully, hopefully, you know, we have the reds have yet to play. We'll see all that. We'll see what happens with that. You know, and that's where my team two years ago. So I'm still pretty familiar with that. Again, one of the reasons why I'm still looking for a team to follow because they're just it's frustrating to watch. Yeah. Yeah. Very, very good. But sometimes very disappointing.
00:19:25
Speaker
Yeah. And I, having not watched this game, but if I was watching it as a, as a toss fan, I probably would have been pretty. Yeah. Cause really, I don't know how the hell the hurricanes pulled this out of the rest. Yeah. So, um, hurricanes went 2019, 20 to 19 over the toss. Hey, when winning starts a good start anyway, it happens especially on the road. So as a hurricanes fan, I will take it.
00:19:46
Speaker
Um, we'll touch on this game real quick. Sunwells and sharks. I watched it. Um, Sunwells were never really in this. Was this, they tried it. This was in Singapore. Yeah. So why did they play, they play in Singapore a couple of games once or twice a year. I think that's there's Singapore is such a huge expat.
00:20:01
Speaker
um
Sunwolves' Struggles & Bulls' Dominance
00:20:02
Speaker
yes yeah you know city that i mean it's a gigantic stadium it was pretty it was pretty quote unquote empty i'm sure there were thousands of tickets sold but it's a lot of aussies a lot of brits um you know looking for some rugby um so absolutely would be a pretty cool place to actually go watch again it's kind of in the middle right so it kind of it helps travel a little bit because you're not flying all the way to japan you're not flying all the way out it's definitely um
00:20:29
Speaker
Notes for the Sun Wolves, no Amanaki Mafi, no Mike Leech, that definitely hurt him. They got bossed around in the forwards. Judging, obviously, you can see Sharks front row. Is that Renny Ranger playing for them? That is absolutely him. He got hurt, though, unfortunately. Oh, that's a bummer. Yeah, so I was like, oh, I know that guy. Hey, a guy on the Sun Wolves, I know. It's cool, although I do know Leech and Mafi. But you can see the Sharks front row, 23 points. Yo, that tells you everything you need to know. They just got bossed around in that front row and that scrum.
00:20:59
Speaker
Um Sharks were in control. They never looked like they were got get out of second gear though They really didn't you know, deprea didn't do anything crazy. Um, neither deprea Again, this is still let's you know, make sure we're we're focused. That's the first week, right? It is so it's you know These these teams are still just fine trying to find themselves and I know that they're you know for the most part They're unchanged from from last year
00:21:23
Speaker
With a few departures here and there and a few additions. Exactly. You're still trying to sort it out. You're still not in the kind of fitness and shape that you need to be in. So there's just a lot of ugly, beautiful rugby. They're just missing the passes or their timing's not right.
00:21:43
Speaker
So it's going to be like that for a week or two. They also just came off that superhero doubleheader where Marvel's done this partnership with them that each team has. The jerseys are cool. They are awesome. They are. We'll talk about the Bulls in a second. The Bulls sport. They're Captain America's this weekend. They look pretty sharp. Yeah. The Sharks are in Black Panther. Yeah.
00:22:06
Speaker
Pretty cool. I think the biggest letdown probably would be, who's Spider-Man, the lions? The lions. Yeah, it doesn't look very good. That's what that, yeah. So the lions, and then the Thor. Yeah, we talked about it. The Thor for the Stormers. The Stormers. Doesn't look great. Yeah, whatever. I'm going to have to pick up one of each of the Captain America and the lion. Yeah, they do that again. The Black Panther. Talking too much NRL, but they do that in the NRL as well. Oh, really cool. Marvel is just. They're everywhere, man. Yeah. They're grabbed. They're taken over.
00:22:34
Speaker
Slowly. Sunwells won 45 to 10, or Sunwells... It's my friend. It's not a game of golf. No, it's not. Sharks won 45 to 10, my bad. So sharks are very easily off to a good start.
00:22:50
Speaker
But that wasn't the worst game of the weekend in my opinion the Stormers looked Terrible and they're consistently always kind of the better one of the better South Africa teams. Yes was a Shocker they lost Khaleesi in the first 20 minutes and I think that just kind of derailed them It's Beth again not playing. Yeah, it's about to not play either. That's right
00:23:12
Speaker
Yeah, so it was, yeah, it was, I mean, you can see it by the Stormer scores, fantasy scores. It's bad. It was very bad. Roscoe Speckman, this was his coming out party, the former South African sevens player. I mean, right off the get go just turns and burns wrapped right up in the middle. Yeah.
00:23:30
Speaker
I was like, okay, this guy's going to be something real. And then the nice little chip kick from Pollard that Creole's able to field and slide under the post for, um, yeah, Bulls looked in control. This is naturally the whole game. Like every time it seemed like the Stormers were trying to get something going, they'd find a way to screw it up. This could be the reemergence of the Bulls that we saw in those, you know, the mid to late 2000s. Yeah. That really dominated super rugby dominated hurry cup.
00:23:55
Speaker
big traditional South African forwards. You know that they probably just speak Afrikaans. When they speak English it is, how are you doing?
00:24:13
Speaker
Yeah, I mean Vermeulen returned to them for the season after being abroad, taking some kind of R&R in Japan. Does this mean we might actually see a different South African team in the finals?
00:24:29
Speaker
I think you're gonna see a different South African team win the conference. I watched the Lions game too and we'll talk about that in a second. If I were the Bulls, I'd lean on this forward pack, especially my line out.
00:24:47
Speaker
You got a lot of good jumpers between snaming Diager for my own you can you can definitely do damage with that and then you got you know, Scott Brits at the is You know, they're one of their it might be their starting hooker for me. He's he's incredible He's Benjamin Button
00:25:06
Speaker
Yeah, it seems to be. Oh, my God. So that's for me. Andre Pollard is the better 10 of the of the two that have been playing for South Africa over Yanchis. Yeah. You know, I'm not a fan of him at all. Same. Same. I think it's I think our opinions are shared amongst many people, except for the guy that makes the decisions arrest us, but a
00:25:36
Speaker
whatever. So Bulls win 40 to 3 over the Stormers. Stormers are gonna go lick their wounds and figure out what the hell they did wrong when that came. I realize no Khaleesi know it's a bit but man something went wrong. Something went
Jaguars vs. Lions & Pick'Em Predictions
00:25:48
Speaker
very wrong.
00:25:49
Speaker
Alright, last game and then we'll do Pick'em and then you guys can turn this off if you want. They probably already have, let's be real. Jaguars and Lions in Buenos Aires. You know, it's funny. I have a... Because the Jaguars are the Lions. This is kind of their bugaboo spot where they lose to the Argentinians in Buenos Aires.
00:26:13
Speaker
I'm going to take you back to a day that they're probably really, really mad about. It was 2016. It was the last day of the tournament. The Hurricanes had won and were on top. And the Lions chose to sit a bunch of guys and play the Juarez with a somewhat depowered side. They lost.
00:26:35
Speaker
They got the two seed in the playoff. They ended up having to go to Wellington in the final. They got beat by the Hurricanes in Wellington. So I'm sure they're really, really kicking themselves about that decision. Thanks for the history lesson. You're welcome. Hurricanes fan. Hello. That's the only reason I know.
00:26:51
Speaker
If someone out there can send me a Heguares jersey that would be dope, either black or orange, maybe the orange ones, they are awesome. I don't know, I mean, Argentina Rugby is fun to watch, watching these guys play. They were throwing it around everywhere. Yeah, it's pretty exciting. They've got some really great backs, a couple of those great loose forwards. Yep, Kramer. Yeah, so Sanchez is great as well, was he playing?
00:27:19
Speaker
He has actually moved on to Star Francaise. See, I'm so out of touch with my Argentinian rugby. I apologize for that. Diaz Bonilla was playing 10 for that. Actually didn't play terrible. The Lions, really, they had one guy that was on, and it was Schumann. And he got a hat-trick out of it. Fell over the line on a couple of drives, and then one squared out the side of the scrum, I believe, and he picked it up and said, oh, hey, look what I got.
00:27:47
Speaker
So to say that he didn't deserve it, obviously, if you find three tries, it's not like you don't deserve them. You definitely got there. Every time the Jaguars had something good going, kind of like the Stromers, they screwed up. They had the majority of the possession, at least in the first half, and made way less tackles, but they were still behind.
00:28:09
Speaker
So it was their ill-discipline and their inability to execute that did the Haggadah sin. Lions did a lot with a little. They really did. They kicked like one or two pens, I think, and that's it. And then they got over the line a few times and that was enough. So if they play like that against another team,
00:28:30
Speaker
Yeah, well again, they'll be in trouble first week. So everybody everybody played a little bit like who this week plus uh, quagga smith was out I think yes, he was uh, and that guy that's what i was playing for exactly and that guy is uh, he's a beast yes, he's I think you know to be able to come from the south ever dominate south african sevens like that Yeah, and then come in and play a loose forward position like he is he's all over the park Yeah, there is you know, no ruck that is safe around him. No, he's a hoose
00:28:58
Speaker
That dude is um, yeah, and it's they do have a Pretty good plethora between skooman and him if they're gonna look for a choice flanker then they got that's a good problem Warm Whiteley is pretty good. Right Malcolm marks is pretty good. They do have talent. They do have ability I just think that if they're continuing to play at this level, they're gonna be in trouble, but it is only week one So we'll see if they if they still need a 10. Yeah
00:29:22
Speaker
He didn't have the that shit lid I will say that oh really a little cleaned it's not that stupid stripe anymore It's just it's still a little buzz on the sides, but you know yeah, there's those worst guys that have that one but yeah, so Lions win 25 16 probably count themselves a little lucky forgetting what they got but Still deserved Jaguar couldn't couldn't finish anything worth it worth their life
00:29:50
Speaker
I need to do it over there. Man down, man down. All right, pick him. Should we speed round this one? Yes, we will. Highlanders Reds.
00:30:01
Speaker
Highlanders highlanders the the landers all around. Yeah. Yeah. Okay nice Some wolves some wolves Taz Taz Taz it is. Yeah, it's unfortunate Sorry, someone's get to him home games in a row. They're gonna lose them both. Yeah. Well, although one was in Singapore Crusaders hurricanes this week fine. I'm gonna go with canes
00:30:24
Speaker
Really? Yeah. Okay. Well, it's more of a desire thing than I think they're gonna win, but you never know. Again, week two. Yeah. It's interesting to see what the lineups look like. I'll say Crusaders for this one. Yeah. Fair enough. Um, where are you going? Come on, hurricanes. Don't, don't let me down. Well, not week, not in week two. I'm going with the chefs. Yes, you are cooking up something.
00:30:50
Speaker
Yeah. Um, yeah, no David Pocock is slightly concerning. Yeah. Sharks and blues at home. Sharks at home. Sharks. I really want the blues to win this. I'm going to go with them.
00:31:08
Speaker
Okay, I am so tempted to pick the blues, but I think traveling to South Africa and the blues didn't look particularly good. And the sharks have a little bit of confidence after, granted, they beat up on the Sunwells. All right, Stormer's Lions.
00:31:28
Speaker
lions lions lions yeah storm stormers are gonna have to prove it to me that was right you can't you can't show up with three points and then expect to get picked next week no and then and then jags home one more time against the bulls i think the haguari is you know will win this yeah in in argentina yep okay
00:31:50
Speaker
I think it's early enough for them to capitalize. Just sneak one in, sneak one in there. Especially at home. I think that happens. All right, Ben, you got a chance to catch up on me.
Six Nations Predictions & Social Media Engagement
00:32:00
Speaker
You got one of my pickles. You went eight and five last week. I went 10-3. Ah, fuck off. That happens. All right, let's start with the Six Nations.
00:32:20
Speaker
First, first game France, Scotland, Ben. I am done. Yeah. Picking. You lost a lot of ground in the last two weeks. No. So I'm, I'm, I'm Scott. Yeah. I'm going with Scotland.
00:32:37
Speaker
James, you're the only one that hasn't lost a pick on the game in Six Nations. Really? Yeah, you're six and a half. Oh, a la la blur. Let's have their French win this game. I think it's funny. See, this is going to be fun because I'm going to pick France, give Ben a chance to catch up. And if they win, I'm going to just laugh my ass off because I'll be like, damn it. The one time. One time. You know, you said I haven't lost yet. I should really put some money on.
00:33:08
Speaker
Um Yeah, put a parley in there there you go put those three on um Wales England Ben England. Yep. How can you pick again? Yeah England? Yeah, it's gonna be hard gotta be it's gotta be yeah Must be Wales is just an extent extension of England People out there
00:33:28
Speaker
It's an appendage. Yeah, yeah. Oh, man. Yeah. All right. And then the Sunday game, Italy and Ireland. Yeah. Yeah. Ireland. Ireland. It's a shame, but it's the reality. I understand. I totally understand. All right. And then to the locals, Friday night, the big one. Gloucester and Saracens.
00:33:54
Speaker
See I'm you know what as much as I think I Think Saracens have a chance at this one But I mean, I you know, we're hearing that pull edgy might be back Sharples might be around one more week Jake wait one more week, please So not knowing not knowing the lineups I'm gonna assume just cuz fuck it. Why not that that he's back Yeah, and so I'm gonna go with with Gloucester at home That's it's a King's home. It is that King's home. Yeah, that's Gloucester. I
00:34:22
Speaker
that's the that's the smart that's what the smart money they're not missing you know that many guys a lot of guys who are just for some reason not not on eddies on the custer yeah i'm i'm still wearing my black shirt on friday but
00:34:38
Speaker
I will pick the stripes. I'll pick yeah, I mean I Can see Cipriani just carving them up. Yeah, I could too especially if if the Saracens bring their defense I mean they'll win this like seven three, right? But if they don't this is probably gonna be a trifest and Gloucester wins. Yep It's gonna have they're gonna have to make it a slugfest if they want to absolutely if they want to stay in it Yep. All right, so the Saturday games watch sale
00:35:02
Speaker
It's rare that I'm gonna pick die young in a game, but you know what? No, I think sale bounce back. I think sale bounce back. They have to yeah I mean they have to come with a performance at the very least right good lord, although it you know It's a home game for wasps. Yeah, but still sticking with sale I agree Which cowboy do I pick?
00:35:26
Speaker
Okay, I'll put it this way. I think Steve Diamond is way more of a cowboy than Dye Young. Dye Young's at least got some experience. He's gotten teams to good places. Steve Diamond concerns me, so I'm gonna go with loss. All right. Quinn's Bristol at the stoop.
00:35:49
Speaker
It's going to, that's going to pain me. Cause I, I, I do have, I'm, I'm so Bristol's. They're throwing a soft spot in the old Duder's heart, but, but I'm going to go with the Quinn's cause they're just, they, they're, they want it. I think they want it. They have the talent and the desire and that's a combination that that's going to be hard for Bristol to deal with because they have the desire, but not, I don't think they, they quite have the level of talent to stick with it.
00:36:16
Speaker
Mm-hmm. Yep. Um, yeah, I'm with the twins on that one. Exeter Newcastle at Sandy Park. It's hard to know. Yeah, the chefs. Yeah. Yeah, this is going to be Exeter. The chefs. I remember watching a long time ago some like- The commercial. It's commercial. Yeah, Snickers commercial.
00:36:35
Speaker
No, there's that oh, oh that's my brother's boss did that he produced that commercial shout out to barton f graph No, there was a super rugby fan that went to a super rugby Chiefs game holding up a sign that said come on chefs Disaster
00:36:58
Speaker
Oh man. All right. A team that's grown a spot in my heart for sure. If your side piece is lost or my side piece is definitely saved because of Chris Boyd, Ludlum, Courtney Law is obviously when he comes back. I liked Tamana Harrison personally. You've been talking a lot about Pierce Francis tonight as well. Yep. He wore an England shirt and he doesn't look like he's unworthy either.
00:37:23
Speaker
Pascal is eventually coming back, right? I don't know. He's just promoting his cookbook, his DJing, his whatever. He's the F45 or whatever. I tell you though, he is the perfect example of a rugby player that knows that he's got to do something else beyond rugby.
00:37:45
Speaker
So give the guy credit. He also is an advocate for inclusion into the sport, which I think is incredibly important, which rugby has always been that way. So I can't knock the guy. I just said that I'll never see his videos with Owen Farrell again.
00:38:02
Speaker
Yeah, those were very funny. Those were hilarious. Yeah, he's a he's a hero of the sport. Yeah. Yeah. On and off the bench. Screw ambassador. Yeah, absolutely. If it lets James Haskell, let's get a beer if you're ever in America. Yeah. You're you're welcome to my house, dude. Absolutely. Who are you going with Saints Bath? Oh, Saints. Saints. Yeah. Where is it? Franklin Garden. OK. Yeah, I think the Saints can produce another victory.
00:38:34
Speaker
um oh here we go ben warchester or lychester what's your last yeah shoot me now yeah what are you gonna do you're gonna i'm gonna go with with uh the juicing team you're going lester yeah okay they'll they'll out muscle them with their vitamins here's the thing
00:38:58
Speaker
I don't know who the hell Worcester's gonna put a 10 if Duncan Weir's away with Scotland. John Lance is still hurt last I checked. So yeah, that's not good I don't know who they're gonna put a 10. That's the problem. That's my own that would be like if they didn't if they didn't have that problem I'd probably
00:39:14
Speaker
Lean the Warriors right now Newcastle is wants to murder whoever set the schedule Yeah, because shit the one time, you know, they have a chance to you know, make up a little bit of ground Yeah, and they have to go to get you know to Sandy Park. Yeah. Yeah, I know right and and and Worcester have basically nobody awful stuff. I Don't know. I'm gonna say Worcester. Yeah, just cuz for the hell of it. I
00:39:43
Speaker
I won't begrudge you that because they play better at home by far, and they still play pretty well at the stoop. And I would not mind seeing them win. I wouldn't mind, I wouldn't either. No, a couple teams that win. All right, we gotta touch on it, because if we don't, then we're not doing it justice.
00:40:02
Speaker
No. So anybody that's looking for ways to get ahold of us follow Ben and I on Twitter. I'll put the Twitter handles in the show notes. fancy rugby podcast at gmail.com. If you have questions, comments, concerns, leadership reviews, make sure you download us all that good, good stuff. Other than that, I think we're good. James, thanks for coming again, buddy. You're welcome any time you want to come hang out and talk with us.
00:40:24
Speaker
I took the Polar Express to get out here. Yeah, it's a little chilly out there. But thank you very much, everybody, for listening. We will be back next week with a lot of stuff to talk about. Thanks, everybody. Cheers. Goodbye.