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#17 Preseason Updates
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This week we give you some of the biggest updates, news, and takeaways from Weeks 1 and 2 of the NFL preseason so far.
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Introduction and Podcast Style
00:00:00
Lord Hinkie
Ladies and gentlemen.
00:00:05
Lord Hinkie
Welcome back to another episode of the ZNG g Dynasty podcast. I am joined by my two other stooges to my three stooges as usual.
00:00:12
Dakota Zeigler
Thank you.
00:00:15
Lord Hinkie
But before we get going, i just want to let you guys know what this podcast is going to look like. And to be honest, it's kind of just talking news, talking shop, giving you guys updates of what's going on during the preseason.
00:00:20
Ninja
Thank you.
00:00:26
Lord Hinkie
it's basically a look behind the curtain of our little between us girls chat. We're going to be basically just gossiping about what's going on in you the football landscape. So, welcome to between us girls. I'm glad you guys can make it.
00:00:39
Lord Hinkie
anyways, Zig, go ahead and say hi the people, big fella.
Hosts' Persona as 'Three Stooges'
00:00:44
Dakota Zeigler
I just want to say two things before I move on here. One, why are we the three stooges, not the three musketeers? I mean, I i i think we fit that hero hero role better than the goofball role.
00:00:53
Lord Hinkie
You know exactly why we're the Stooges.
00:00:56
Ninja
No shot.
00:00:57
Dakota Zeigler
if If you want to be the goofballs, if you want to listen, be the goofballs, go over to the All Formats podcast.
00:00:58
Lord Hinkie
We're the Stooges, buddy.
00:01:03
Dakota Zeigler
That's all I got to say. And listen to their last pod.
Upcoming Live Podcast Collaboration
00:01:06
Dakota Zeigler
Now, and for the moment, it got quiet there after the Between Us Girls. You do the little hand flick thing. That's just that's just our
00:01:14
Dakota Zeigler
this is what we do.
00:01:14
Lord Hinkie
We need a sound.
00:01:14
Ninja
Hey.
00:01:15
Lord Hinkie
I need this to be a sound production.
00:01:16
Ninja
Hey. Make it happen.
00:01:19
Lord Hinkie
Yeah. Something like that.
00:01:21
Dakota Zeigler
Yeah, you know, you know, we partial Swifties out here, I guess this is where we're heading. But, you know, um this is what this is what we do to have fun.
00:01:27
Lord Hinkie
Team Swifty.
00:01:29
Dakota Zeigler
Now, your team Kelsey and just, have to be sucked into team Swifty because you're forced to, you know, you got that ball of chain.
00:01:30
Ninja
Thank you.
00:01:37
Dakota Zeigler
We know it. But anyway, thank you for listening in. If we didn't lose you already to the ZNG Dynasty podcast. We are weekly from here on out.
00:01:45
Lord Hinkie
Yes, sir.
00:01:46
Dakota Zeigler
Episodes be published. We're going to try for every Wednesday and get ready for, I think, a season one, full season one. I say we're still kind of in our preseason to the pod.
00:01:58
Dakota Zeigler
I mean, I don't think we got a full season yet. So I say get ready for our season intro coming out soon.
00:02:04
Lord Hinkie
Oh, baby. All right, Ninja. Let's get it going, big fella. do you got to say?
00:02:10
Ninja
Man, I just want to say for the second week in row, Zig's talking trash to our brotherly podcast, and it's kind of insane.
00:02:16
Lord Hinkie
don't know.
00:02:17
Ninja
Joe Thomas, I would never treat you like that or your podcast like that. So keep in mind who your friends still are. I still love you, buddy, even though we don't agree. I love you. I'm here for you. But yes, it is good to be back with the boys.
00:02:29
Ninja
This is quite literally a Between Us Girls chat tonight, and you guys are just listening along to it. This is what we do in our chats.
00:02:37
Lord Hinkie
I so happened to record it So here it is.
00:02:40
Ninja
Yep.
00:02:41
Lord Hinkie
Yeah.
00:02:41
Ninja
Zig.
00:02:42
Dakota Zeigler
I just want to say one more thing. Shots are fired at the All Formats podcast, but it is all out of fun and love because listen to us coming out on a live pod with them.
00:02:56
Dakota Zeigler
I'm assuming this upcoming weekend, if not the next. So sometime here in the near future, we'll be a live pod with us and our sisters at the All Formats podcast.
00:03:06
Lord Hinkie
Yep, that's going to be a fun one. I cannot wait for that. We will be recording that this weekend. So expect that probably next week sometime. But man, that is going to be a good one. Live all formats and ZNG Dynasty Pod collab.
00:03:20
Lord Hinkie
Man, all four of our viewers aren't going to to do with themselves. anyways, fellas, I think we just head right into the news.
00:03:27
Ninja
All four of our viewers are going to be in that chat.
00:03:30
Lord Hinkie
Exactly. They're going to be live.
00:03:30
Dakota Zeigler
That's exactly what i was going to say. There's going to be no one listening.
00:03:34
Lord Hinkie
Yep. That's pretty much it.
00:03:36
Dakota Zeigler
We can archive that one and everyone has heard it
00:03:37
Lord Hinkie
I
00:03:39
Lord Hinkie
can never upload it and just be the same thing.
00:03:43
Lord Hinkie
Yeah, fellas, I think we just hit up in the news.
Brian Robinson Jr. Trade Rumors
00:03:46
Lord Hinkie
First two weeks of ah preseason we're going to be talking about and just kind of what's going on in the landscape. And speaking of what's going on, the biggest news I think that dropped today while we're recording this is that Brian Robinson Jr. running back for the Washington Commanders is on the trade block.
00:04:02
Lord Hinkie
Washington is actively trying to trade away Brian Robinson. And from what I've heard, it looks like they're either going to trade him or cut him is what all the news I've heard today.
00:04:13
Lord Hinkie
what it looks like, Damian, do you want to hit me with the kid's name?
00:04:18
Ninja
Jacory Crossgate Merritt.
00:04:20
Lord Hinkie
There it is.
00:04:20
Ninja
Crossgate Merritt.
00:04:22
Lord Hinkie
Turns out to be a guy.
00:04:24
Ninja
Told you.
00:04:25
Lord Hinkie
I know he had a touchdown run in their last preseason game. He looked okay. To me, he looks a little slow, but he he's got good vision. He seems to be a guy. Washington must like him. They still have Austin Eckler for, I think, this season, if not two.
00:04:37
Lord Hinkie
But whatever Austin Eckler gets you is what it is. But, Ninja, ill go to you first since you're a big JCM guy, who which is what I will be calling him. What are your thoughts on this, and how can you already victory lap a preseason win on a player?
00:04:51
Ninja
Guys, this is rare. First off, it's rare that I'm right. Second, it's rare that I'm right this fast. I don't know what to do with myself. Listen to that Dynasty Gem podcast that didn't come out too long ago.
00:05:05
Ninja
i said this is a guy that you need to pick up now. Guess what? You might already be too late now with all this news going on. So hopefully you got him. Like I said in that pod, I've had my feelers on him for a little bit now.
00:05:18
Ninja
Just trying to get to know him as a prospect. And I thought he could lead like a committee backfield type beat. And Washington is showing the faith that they think he can do the same.
00:05:30
Ninja
Being that they're willing to trade and or cut Brian Robinson. ah This is big ups for JCM. Definitely at least as a handcuff to Austin Eckler.
00:05:42
Ninja
But probably throughout the year, slowly start to take over that role.
00:05:46
Lord Hinkie
Oh yeah. I think he's going to be a good chunk of that committee, especially if it is just JCM and Eckler. don't think they brought in anybody else or really have anybody floating around there.
00:05:52
Ninja
Thank
00:05:55
Lord Hinkie
To be honest, I am shocked. I think Brian Robinson is a fine running back. I really didn't see anything wrong that he did last season. don't know if there's some off the field stuff or maybe some contract negotiations that are going on behind the scenes that are causing this to happen. But
00:06:11
Lord Hinkie
I got no issues with Brian Robinson, the player. I didn't think Washington would as well. I mean, had like 800 yards last season, like eight touchdowns. He was fine. He was a good committee running back. I don't understand it.
00:06:22
Lord Hinkie
Zig, I know you're also ah Brian Robinson truther like myself. Are you surprised by this news? And what do you think of the player, Brian Robinson, going forward if he does get traded and or cut?
00:06:35
Dakota Zeigler
Yeah, having... I can't believe they're just going to straight-up cut him. That's the most shocking part to me. If you could trade him, might as well trade him. I mean, he's fine. If you think you have a guy, get something for him. But the straight-up cut him makes me worry there's something going on behind the scenes.
00:06:52
Dakota Zeigler
Ja'Cory, Crosskett, Merritt, JCM for short. I think we're just to stick with that because I'm not going to try to pronounce that name again. Seems like a guy...
00:07:03
Dakota Zeigler
Austin Eckler, he is getting up there in age. I'm going to look right now while I'm talking to see how old he is. But he is a great player. He's 30 years old right now. Eighth year in the NFL.
00:07:15
Dakota Zeigler
I think like week one, you're going to see him see a lot, but you're going to lose a lot to JCM, like we've been saying. For Austin Eckler, I think it's worth noting if you're in a super deep league, if he gets hurt, the guy up next would be Chris Rodriguez, who has shown and looked decent for the commanders here and there last year.
00:07:36
Dakota Zeigler
So I think he's a guy as well. don't think they're going JCM be a full workhorse.
Player Performance and Trade Speculations
00:07:41
Dakota Zeigler
So if you're in a super deep league and need a flyer, you know, grab Chris Rodriguez.
00:07:47
Dakota Zeigler
I don't see it hurting at all. Now, I do want to propose something to you guys because I'd seen this right before coming onto the pod that
00:07:57
Dakota Zeigler
Let me take a step back here. The Washington Commanders are a great team without a ton of weapons. I mean, they still haven't signed Terry McLaurin. They don't have a, I wouldn't say a star running back. We think JCM is going to be a guy, but they don't have a stud yet at the moment.
00:08:14
Dakota Zeigler
They're cutting their best running back in the moment. Is Debo Samuel anything? That's still a question mark. You got Zach Ertz who we like, but he's getting up there in age.
00:08:25
Dakota Zeigler
I seen something where a source is saying they may try to trade for Brees Hall.
00:08:29
Ninja
okay
00:08:35
Dakota Zeigler
The Jets are a team that aren't in the Breeze Hall. They would give a great pass-catching running back, an explosive guy with mobile quarterback in Jaden Daniels.
00:08:38
Ninja
Thank you.
00:08:43
Dakota Zeigler
That play action would be unstoppable. You think that's something that we should be on the lookout for? Or what's your guys' has thought as a more professional fantasy analyst than myself?
00:08:57
Lord Hinkie
I think it's kind of, it it would be a strange trade for two NFL teams to trade starting running backs. I think we can all agree Brees Hall is a much better running back than Brian Robinson is. then if you're trying to you incorporate the right trade package for those two players that are both on the last year of their deal, would probably be a weird flop.
00:09:21
Lord Hinkie
Now, if you were to say, Washington is going to cut or trade Brian Robinson somewhere else and then look to trade for Brees Hall, maybe.
00:09:28
Dakota Zeigler
that That's what I was trying to.
00:09:30
Lord Hinkie
is that what you're saying?
00:09:30
Dakota Zeigler
Yeah. That's what I believe. they They're getting rid of Brian Robinson and then pursuing Brees Hall. Yes.
00:09:37
Lord Hinkie
Yeah, maybe. i just don't see him. It would make no sense for the Jets. like Braylon Allen, the kid behind Brees Hall, but I don't it just it doesn't make sense for the Jets.
00:09:49
Dakota Zeigler
Do you think Brees Hall is a jet next year by any stretch? Even if he has a great year, do you think he stays a jet?
00:09:57
Lord Hinkie
Yeah.
00:09:59
Dakota Zeigler
Really? My eyes, they just don't seem in on Breeze Hall. Breeze Hall doesn't seem in on the commanders. I just don't see him coming back to the Jets, personally.
00:10:09
Dakota Zeigler
Damian, any thoughts on that?
00:10:11
Ninja
Nope. I think it's kind of the best thing said there it's kind of weird each way, matter which way you slice the pie. It's kind of gross. Like the Jets have no reason to do this.
00:10:21
Lord Hinkie
Thank you.
00:10:23
Ninja
Trade Brees Hall. He's your best offensive threat as of now. And if you were to trade him away, don't think there's much lost. But what are they to gain from a trade, like a mid-round pick?
00:10:36
Ninja
Like, there's nothing there for either side. I mean, if the Commanders were to somehow get Breece Hall, obviously wheels up being with Jayden Daniels. But it's just a weird kind trade negotiation.
00:10:50
Ninja
I think Breece Hall is on the Jets next year. i think they eventually do re-sign him. But definitely something to keep your eyes on.
Quarterback Surprises and Debates
00:11:02
Lord Hinkie
Yep. Um, think moving on here to the next, uh, news that we have for the, uh, this pod is Caleb Williams.
00:11:04
Ninja
Thank you.
00:11:09
Lord Hinkie
Um, have a note in here that he looked very hit or miss during his first preseason game. I think, I think he played, um, tongue twisting all over the place, man. I host the podcast and I can't put words together without fumbling over them.
00:11:24
Lord Hinkie
That's a problem. Anyways, I'll be better. I'll be better. I promise.
00:11:28
Dakota Zeigler
Still preseason, man. It's still preseason.
00:11:30
Lord Hinkie
I know I i gotta get out of these, these, all all these bugs are in here and I just got to get them out. I I'm very hit or miss.
00:11:34
Dakota Zeigler
You're looking hit or miss. You're looking hit or miss.
00:11:38
Lord Hinkie
I think he played two drives for the bears, during the second preseason game.
00:11:41
Ninja
Thank you.
00:11:43
Lord Hinkie
And the first one looked great right down the field. I believe they had a 98 yard drive. Uh, everything was in motion. Everything was in rhythm, two step drops. He was hitting his outside wide receiver. It looked great.
00:11:55
Lord Hinkie
Uh, second drive, they pressured them a little bit. kind of, you know, had a couple defenders in his face, made a couple of Aaron throws, you know, and he was Caleb Williams of old. I think there's going to be a lot of learning curves in this ah offense, especially early on in the season that no one is going to want to wait through and deal with.
00:12:15
Lord Hinkie
But I think this is going to be the world we live in. i think Caleb Williams is going to get off to a slow-ish start. Maybe the Chicago Bears in general are going to get off to a slow start, but got to believe you got to sit through the pain to get to the pleasure. So,
00:12:27
Lord Hinkie
I think Caleb Williams is going to be fine.
00:12:28
Dakota Zeigler
Thank you.
00:12:31
Lord Hinkie
It's just you're going to have to wait a little bit and let him you kick out these bugs like I'm trying to get out of my throat right now. anyways, let me pass it on before I say something R-rated.
00:12:40
Lord Hinkie
Zig.
00:12:41
Dakota Zeigler
Yeah, and we were talking about this a little bit before the pod with Caleb Williams, where I think he, but like Gary said, he's going to struggle a little bit in the beginning. I think that's almost a given in my eyes with this team, new system coming in He struggled last year. And if he struggles, I think the tide is going to turn on Caleb Williams.
00:13:06
Dakota Zeigler
pretty fast. I mean, we already haven't gotten, I don't think any positive news from preseason, which is a little bit scary to me. I'll wait to let Damien go on with his hot take on Kaleeb last week. So I'm going just say that if he struggles...
00:13:27
Dakota Zeigler
and tides start turning and you start seeing Twitter blow up on, you know, this guy stinks and, you know, guy anymore that people believe in, I'm buying that whole offense.
00:13:39
Dakota Zeigler
buy the whole offense. I mean, it's going to take some time for him to to develop. Buy Kaleeb cheap, buy Swift cheap, buy Rome. I mean, Rome would be a great long-term asset to have.
00:13:51
Dakota Zeigler
Burden, Colson, Loveland, if you're in tight end premium, DJ Moore even.
00:13:54
Lord Hinkie
It's
00:13:56
Dakota Zeigler
That whole offense is bound to explode. I think we all believe it. I think we're just, you know, we said about what if Ben Johnson isn't the coach we thought he was.
00:14:08
Dakota Zeigler
You know, you always have these what ifs.
00:14:11
Dakota Zeigler
I think it's just going to take some time.
00:14:14
Lord Hinkie
going to take a few weeks at least.
00:14:16
Dakota Zeigler
So buy it while you can is just what I'm going to say.
00:14:19
Lord Hinkie
I think that is the take, I think, with the Chicago system. And the biggest target for me out of that whole group is Luther Burden. If Burden gets buried on the depth chart early, he's not seen a lot of targets, you get a frustrated owner who took him in early second, and he's like, oh, I've got to get this guy off my plate. If you're just going to send him another second for him, I would love to hop on a Luther Burden train late, hopefully he can turn it around. But, Damon.
00:14:47
Ninja
Yeah, for me, this is all just preseason, and I'm not trying to listen to too many negative things. Because keep in mind, this is almost like draft season where there's a lot of smoke and mirrors.
00:14:54
Lord Hinkie
Bye.
00:14:58
Ninja
No one wants to give too much away. Because say if Caleb Williams was lighting up preseason games and training camps and all that, don't want to deal your hand early.
00:15:10
Ninja
So I'm not worried. I think Ben Johnson runs an elaborate system, probably just running some kinks out the first couple weeks, ironing some things out.
00:15:21
Ninja
Eventually, it's going to become real easy for Caleb Williams, whether he learns the entirety of Ben Johnson's mind or Ben Johnson decides to simplify it down a little bit.
00:15:33
Ninja
I think, it just wait. There's no need to panic. There's no need to do anything. Keep all your bear shares. It'll work out. may look a little rough early, but it should get real hot late.............
00:15:46
Lord Hinkie
Just relax. Take it easy. i agree. i agree. Daniel Jones is officially announced as the starting quarterback week one for the Indianapolis Colts.
00:15:59
Lord Hinkie
He beat out Anthony Richardson.
00:16:00
Ninja
Gary, pause.
00:16:01
Lord Hinkie
Yep.
00:16:01
Ninja
Pause. Zig, I need that boo sound effect.
00:16:05
Lord Hinkie
Anthony Richardson.
00:16:09
Ninja
There it is.
00:16:09
Lord Hinkie
There it is. And that kid must absolutely stink if he can't beat at out out Daniel Jones in training camp or preseason.
00:16:11
Ninja
yeah
00:16:19
Lord Hinkie
i mean, he's just he has to be just god awful. And before we move on to you, Zig, I want to talk Damien for a second.
00:16:21
Ninja
Pitiful.
00:16:26
Lord Hinkie
If we're going to pull any fantasy assets out of this Indianapolis football team. As the only name ah Tyler Warren and with Jones being this name, the starter.
00:16:32
Ninja
you
00:16:38
Lord Hinkie
Are you more excited for Jones being the starter as a Tyler Warren owner, or would you rather Rich?
00:16:46
Ninja
first question. Yes, it is only Tyler Warren. I am excited about in that offense.
00:16:50
Lord Hinkie
Yeah.
00:16:51
Ninja
And yes, i am a lot more excited that Daniel Jones is a starter instead of a rich.
00:16:57
Lord Hinkie
I agree.
00:16:57
Ninja
definitely a lot more chemistry with tight ends. Daniel Jones had, a rich,
00:17:01
Lord Hinkie
Just a better passer.
00:17:02
Ninja
Yeah, that's sad to say, too.
00:17:05
Lord Hinkie
Which is, yeah.
00:17:05
Ninja
That's gross. But A-Rich was... I think his career might be under 50% completion percentage. I don't know.
00:17:16
Ninja
But definitely close, which is very, very gross. No matter what rushing upside you have, you can't have that in an offense.
00:17:20
Dakota Zeigler
Thank you.
00:17:22
Ninja
So... Even with Daniel Jones, it's it's bleak for Indianapolis. This is going to be a very gross year. Gross for fantasy. Even Tyler Warren, you can't start him. Just keep him on your bench.
00:17:34
Lord Hinkie
I think you can start Warren.
00:17:37
Ninja
You can, but it's just not great. You know what I mean?
00:17:38
Lord Hinkie
Yeah.
00:17:39
Ninja
of But Tyler Warren himself has looked fantastic in preseason.
00:17:40
Lord Hinkie
He'll be a... He looks so good in preseason. I think you can start Warren.
00:17:45
Ninja
Like the absolute stud we predicted.
00:17:47
Lord Hinkie
Oh, for sure. He's going to be great. I think he's going to be really, really good. we're going to be very sad that he's stuck at Indianapolis for the next, you know, however long.
00:17:58
Lord Hinkie
That's what's going to suck. Zig. Zig.
00:18:00
Dakota Zeigler
So Anthony Richardson is still one of the youngest quarterbacks in this league.
00:18:04
Dakota Zeigler
He's only 23 years old.
00:18:05
Lord Hinkie
Here we go.
00:18:07
Dakota Zeigler
Here's the thing. but Here's the thing. the thing. Here's the thing. The kid hasn't played much football. He hasn't since college. He's played less games in his his career than Jada Daniels did in college.
00:18:07
Ninja
Production Pause one second excuses Excuses
00:18:24
Dakota Zeigler
And this is one of the things why I'm still, I'll hold on him. I can't just cut this guy. you know He needs to see the field more.
00:18:30
Ninja
Thank
00:18:32
Dakota Zeigler
The Colts took him at number three knowing he needed time on the field. Knowing that he was going to need some work. and Here's the reason.
00:18:41
Dakota Zeigler
Here's the reason that Daniel Jones is a starter. It's because Shane Steichen will be fired before the end of the year. Shane Steichen's head is on the chopping block, and the way he stays in the game is by, or the way he stays head coach is by winning games.
00:18:59
Dakota Zeigler
He's going to win just enough games with Daniel and Let me say that backwards. Daniel Jones gives him the best bet to win just enough games. Daniel Jones is not the long-term option here.
00:19:09
Dakota Zeigler
I think if Shane Steichen's theory here, he's not a dummy. You've seen him on the birds. If he can develop Anthony Richardson behind the scenes, get just enough games with Daniel Jones to stay afloat.
00:19:23
Dakota Zeigler
I mean, Anthony Richardson still has a shot to be a quarterback in this league. It's not pretty. It's not going to be ugly. He's not going to be the Josh Allen that everyone thought he was going to be.
00:19:34
Lord Hinkie
No.
00:19:35
Dakota Zeigler
Like, the range of outcomes for him isn't like a top five fantasy quarterback in my opinion. But the guy has all the elite skills and assets. He just needs a guy who can develop him.
00:19:46
Dakota Zeigler
And the Colts were the worst team to develop him on. So, I think it was a good move by the Colts to start Daniel Jones.
00:19:58
Dakota Zeigler
But I don't think that means that Anthony Richardson is just dead in the NFL. I don't.
00:20:05
Dakota Zeigler
That's my stance.
00:20:07
Lord Hinkie
I guess he's not completely dead, but man, is he close. So close. Like I was kind of going through like his stats for last season and his rookie year. And, you know, he's had injury bugs and he's been, you know, bad. So they benched them for your, you know, multiple games. So there's not a lot of games played, but like he has so many turnovers. He's had, he's had 12 interceptions last season with nine fumbles.
00:20:35
Lord Hinkie
And I think he played 10 games. Like, it's just, it's so many turnovers. It's unsustainable for a starting NFL quarterback. With that being said,
00:20:45
Dakota Zeigler
I mean, they bench Bryce Young. They bench Bryce Young for Andy Dalton.
00:20:50
Lord Hinkie
that's a little different. But back to my point, even with all of that, the turnovers and the horrible quarterback play, he still has, like, pretty good fantasy games.
00:21:01
Lord Hinkie
Like if he rushes for two touchdowns and he doesn't turn the ball over four times, like he'll give you 20, 30 points. Like that's just what he does. So it's tough because fantasy wise, he has the chance to produce.
00:21:14
Lord Hinkie
It's just, I don't think he's a good NFL quarterback.
00:21:18
Ninja
No, you guys both kind of missed it. Gary, you were so close to what I wanted to hear. guy's just not good. I don't care about, oh, he played little NFL games. That's fine.
00:21:29
Ninja
You're now going into your third, fourth season, and every game you played, you've stunk. And not even, like had a few okay games, but has stunk.
00:21:41
Ninja
And if your thing is, oh, well, he's got a lot of upside. He hasn't, you know, played a lot of games. Guess what? Not a lot of people have either. Why is the leash different here than with someone like Zach Wilson?
00:21:53
Ninja
Who had two years and was kicked out of the Jets. Or all those young quarterbacks who got a year or two and then they got kicked. Because guess what? They just suck.
00:22:03
Ninja
And that's okay. And I don't think it's on Shane Steichen. You can't, hey, you missed. It's okay.
00:22:11
Ninja
But I'd rather you move on to a guy that you know is a bridge quarterback and for you to find someone next year or the year after than continually stick with bad and just go, we're working through.
00:22:26
Ninja
If Anthony Richardson cannot beat out Daniel Jones, then Anthony Richardson will never be a starting NFL quarterback in this league ever. And he hasn't, I haven't even seen glimpses He has a cannon, but he overthrows wide receivers way too often.
00:22:46
Ninja
And he can't hit any of the short underneath stuff. He's Jalen Milrow, but worse. And Jaden Milrow doesn't start either. Like, there's reason these guys are developmental guys, because they need to hone in on their passing.
00:23:02
Ninja
He hasn't done that in three years. Guess what? I'm out. And I don't understand the hype. I don't understand just hold on. He's still your franchise guy.
00:23:13
Ninja
No, he had his shot. He shit the bed. Time to move on. Zig.
00:23:20
Dakota Zeigler
You just said my exact point. He's Jalen Milrow. Jalen Milrow is not even a starter. Worse than Jalen Milrow. Jalen Milrow is a developmental guy. He's getting the chance to develop. That's why I said I don't want him to be thrown in as a Seahawk.
00:23:34
Dakota Zeigler
I don't want him to start a bunch of games this year. I want him to sit and learn. That's the same thing what A. Rich needs. He hasn't got the time to sit and learn because he's when he's hurt...
00:23:40
Ninja
You can't. He's had three years.
00:23:43
Lord Hinkie
I was going to say the the difference is we're going into year three.
00:23:43
Ninja
Three years. Three years. Yeah. No. That's the big difference. No. Like, you already had time in the NFL. And for one, you're not developing as a passer. Two, you're injured all the time. Three, at some point last year, I don't even know if he wanted to play football.
00:24:01
Ninja
Just walked off the field.
00:24:01
Lord Hinkie
Yeah, tapped himself out of a game. Yeah.
00:24:04
Ninja
I'm out.
00:24:05
Lord Hinkie
No. No.
00:24:06
Ninja
He's not the answer there in Indianapolis or for any team in the future.
Browns' Quarterback and Roster Developments
00:24:13
Lord Hinkie
Speaking of being out, Joe Flacco was officially named the starting quarterback for the Cleveland Browns. And to be honest, I think this is okay if you're a Jerry Jr. owner and you want to start him for a couple weeks.
00:24:27
Lord Hinkie
Sure. You know, David Njoku is probably going to be okay first couple weeks with Flacco, but Flacco is not going to last long there in Cleveland. They're going to lose a lot of games early because their team stinks.
00:24:39
Lord Hinkie
And the entire franchise And their fan base is going to be begging for Shador Sanders to start as soon as possible. So, you know, what that is, what Shador ends up being fantasy-wise is a completely another question.
00:24:46
Dakota Zeigler
you
00:24:51
Lord Hinkie
But Joe Flacco being the starter for the Browns week one, at least, if not the, you know, short future. Zig, are you excited at all for your Jerry Judy shares? And, you know, how long do you think he has that leash for?
00:25:04
Ninja
you
00:25:05
Dakota Zeigler
That sees that thing. Start him week one. Jerry Judy, David Njoku, even Cedric Tillman. Those three players are worth starting week one. You know who they play? god-awful Bengals defense.
00:25:18
Dakota Zeigler
I mean, Joe Flacco's going to just chuck the ball, tear it up. So start all your Browns week one. And also speaking with Browns, never mind. I'll wait till later to talk about that next piece with the Browns there.
00:25:31
Dakota Zeigler
But week one, start your Browns. Start them all.
00:25:34
Lord Hinkie
can throw the Judkins thing in there.
00:25:36
Dakota Zeigler
Yeah.
00:25:36
Lord Hinkie
Is you're going do?
00:25:37
Lord Hinkie
There you
00:25:38
Dakota Zeigler
Well, I was going to throw it, but Judkins isn't a guy I'm starting week one.
00:25:42
Lord Hinkie
Well, I don't know if starting week one.
00:25:43
Dakota Zeigler
That's where I was going to That's the thing. You're going to see Jerome Ford and Samson out there week one more than likely, but those are two players to start week one as well. And here's the thing.
00:25:54
Dakota Zeigler
After week one, sell them all. I mean, they're going to look great week one. Everyone loves a good week one impression. ah ah Joe Flacco is going to make everyone look good, and now's the time to capitalize.
00:26:06
Dakota Zeigler
Even Jerry Judy, as much as I love him, I don't think his price is going to be any higher than a will after week one of the season.
00:26:06
Ninja
Thank you.
00:26:15
Dakota Zeigler
Damien?
00:26:15
Ninja
So we're talking like a mid-round second for Judy, even after a decent week one. Anywho, it's all right. This is what they need to do. Shadur's not ready yet.
00:26:29
Ninja
Obviously, I think he suffered an injury in preseason week one. I think a bleak injury or something like that.
00:26:33
Lord Hinkie
Yes, yep.
00:26:35
Ninja
So he's not going to be ready. But yes, I think Joe Flacco starts probably close to nine games this season.
00:26:43
Lord Hinkie
Ooh.
00:26:44
Ninja
Something close to that. And then they're going to be like two and six. And out comes Shador. that's everyone, you why was he a fifth round pick?
00:26:52
Lord Hinkie
sir
00:26:54
Ninja
Guess what? He's instantly getting the start over Dylan Gabriel, who they took in the third and has looked very superior in training camp. So, for the Browns, for me, you sell everyone you can now. I don't care what I get back.
00:27:09
Ninja
Just this offense is gross. The only piece I'm holding onto is Judkins and Chidor.
00:27:15
Lord Hinkie
Yeah, I think that's a fair take. i think the Browns' bye week is around week nine. So I think come week ten, we're going to have a different starting quarterback for the Cleveland Browns, if not earlier. But, yeah, I think they'll be fine week one, you know, first couple weeks of the season.
00:27:34
Lord Hinkie
After that, I think they go to Baltimore and then Green Bay, Detroit, Minnesota. Have a lot of tough games, so I think Zig hit a nail on the head. sell after week one, if he can.
00:27:47
Lord Hinkie
After that, like we talked earlier, Quinchon Jenkins, I think we talked about this a little bit in the last podcast, kind of hit hinted at little bit, but he's going to be returning to Cleveland.
00:27:55
Ninja
Thank you.
00:27:57
Lord Hinkie
Charges are dropped. I assume he's not going to be ready for week one, just game plan wise, because he hasn't been at training camp for weeks now, if not over a month.
00:28:07
Dakota Zeigler
weeks, yeah. yeah
00:28:09
Lord Hinkie
he's gonna need some time to get caught up to speed especially as a rookie coming in the nfl would expect dylan sampson and drum ford to get a lot of the work there in cleveland and yes it is gross and no you're not starting any of them but i think you're gonna have to wait a few weeks to get that quinshawn judkins breakout so just hang on tight trade for him now if he can if he didn't already when he got you know the whole suspension thing announced but Anyways, the other Browns news going on is that they signed Isaiah Bond.
00:28:40
Lord Hinkie
You know, they're pulling all these kids right out of the jail cell. Charges were dismissed. He joins the Browns on a three-year deal, $3 million dollars guaranteed for an undrafted, basically free agent.
00:28:54
Lord Hinkie
But Isaiah Bond joins the Browns. Damien, do we care?
00:29:00
Ninja
Absolutely not.
00:29:02
Lord Hinkie
Yeah.
00:29:03
Ninja
The real question is, for Browns fans out there in the world, hit us up in the ZNG streets on all the socials. Why did they give him $3 million dollars guaranteed over three years?
00:29:15
Lord Hinkie
Yeah, I would like to know that too.
00:29:16
Ninja
As an undrafted guy. I still don't get it.
00:29:20
Dakota Zeigler
Pay all his
00:29:21
Ninja
That's what second round guys get. It's like $3 million guaranteed.
00:29:23
Lord Hinkie
Yeah.
00:29:25
Ninja
Which is insane to me. But no, we don't care at all.
00:29:30
Lord Hinkie
Yeah, I think it's going to be a very long time for him to see the field, especially early on the season. And even after that, it's like, What's the ceiling for Isaiah Bond being the Cleveland Browns wide receiver three?
00:29:46
Lord Hinkie
Like, I don't want that guy. Zig.
00:29:49
Dakota Zeigler
Yeah, I guess my question to you guys as your film work goes, where did you see Bond going in the NFL draft if he didn't have all this
00:30:04
Dakota Zeigler
ordeal going on, I guess?
00:30:04
Lord Hinkie
He's a day day three pick.
00:30:06
Ninja
So before, sorry, before in my way too early 2025 mock, I think I had Isaiah Bond as like my wide receiver seven, something like that.
00:30:06
Lord Hinkie
Probably.
00:30:10
Lord Hinkie
Very good.
00:30:15
Lord Hinkie
Oh.
00:30:23
Dakota Zeigler
Is that over Travis Hunter?
00:30:25
Ninja
Yes, because he's a corner still.
00:30:26
Lord Hinkie
Don't start this.
00:30:29
Ninja
Anywho, let's not go down that rabbit hole today.
00:30:32
Lord Hinkie
It doesn't exist.
00:30:34
Ninja
But even in the film work this year with him coming out, easy day three guy, probably round six is where I expected him to go.
00:30:41
Lord Hinkie
Yeah, I had him as my wide receiver 10 going into the draft behind like Beck and Higgins and Royals, like an epic Iumainer, which we can talk about that later.
00:30:53
Lord Hinkie
But I saw him as a day three pick, early day three pick, but a day three pick for sure. And then in your rookie drafts, probably a third round pick, which to be honest, I think that's kind of where he was probably going in the fourth or fifth, even with the whole going on drafted suspension thing because people believe in the player.
00:30:57
Dakota Zeigler
OK.
00:31:09
Lord Hinkie
I didn't see all of that.
Fantasy Football Nickname Controversy
00:31:13
Lord Hinkie
but yeah, I think that kind of wraps up our non injury news out of the podcast, which I guess is a good time for us to segue into, uh, Dakota mentioned in our chat today that, you know, I don't know.
00:31:28
Lord Hinkie
I'm sure you guys who follow fantasy football, listen to the fantasy footballers. it's a podcast to talk about fantasy football. They're very, very popular, much, much bigger than we are or whatever we'll be.
NFL Preseason Participation Debate
00:31:39
Lord Hinkie
and they know what they're talking about, but they had the idea that they came up with the nickname Epic IU Mainer in their podcast that they dropped, I believe yesterday.
00:31:51
Lord Hinkie
Absolutely absurd. I believe we had Epic IU Mainer maybe in our second podcast that we put out as a podcast.
00:31:58
Ninja
Early on.
00:31:59
Lord Hinkie
It was one of the earliest, ah ah most obvious nicknames you could ever think of.
00:31:59
Ninja
Yeah, early on.
00:32:06
Lord Hinkie
So yes, we will be suing and we expect compensation very, very soon.
00:32:06
Dakota Zeigler
I
00:32:10
Lord Hinkie
So if you or anybody you know has any contacts with the fantasy footballers or a lawyer, we would love to talk to you.
00:32:14
Ninja
proof.
00:32:18
Lord Hinkie
We will be getting, we have the copyright claims for Epic IU Mainer.
00:32:18
Dakota Zeigler
see.
00:32:25
Lord Hinkie
Damien himself actually wrote every word of the copyright claim and we will be seeking our compensation.
00:32:33
Ninja
So, sad to say, since I wrote it, there's probably loopholes in that that they're going to get away with it. nor here nor there.
00:32:37
Lord Hinkie
Damn it.
00:32:39
Ninja
As you were talking about that, I went back over and looked at my notes for the wide receiver class coming in. Out of the 19 guys I scouted this year, Isaiah Bond was number 17. Yes.
00:32:50
Lord Hinkie
o Ooh.
00:32:51
Dakota Zeigler
way Okay.
00:32:52
Lord Hinkie
Kid stinks.
00:32:53
Ninja
yes
00:32:55
Lord Hinkie
All right, gents. So we have some injury news to talk about. This is the sad side of football. I hate when players get injured. It just, you know, it throws a wrench into things that you could just never expect.
00:33:06
Lord Hinkie
just sucks. But it is a part of football. But before I go on, Zig.
00:33:10
Dakota Zeigler
Yeah, before we talk about the injury news, a lot of this happens because they're playing in preseason. What is your guys' thoughts on preseason? Should you start your starters?
00:33:19
Lord Hinkie
Ooh.
00:33:20
Dakota Zeigler
So, you know, week one, we actually get decent football. Should you sit your starters? Should we cut preseason as a whole? What's your guys' take on this?
00:33:29
Lord Hinkie
Established veteran starters should not play in preseason. Rookies, I think rookies and young players fighting for roster spots and depth positions should start in preseason.
00:33:34
Ninja
wrong.
00:33:44
Lord Hinkie
But bona fide starting veteran players should not start or play at all in preseason.
00:33:50
Dakota Zeigler
So like the Bengals' first-team offense playing against the Eagles' second-team defense and still getting shut down?
00:33:56
Dakota Zeigler
I mean...
00:33:57
Lord Hinkie
They did not get shut down. They ran right down the field. Jamar Chase had like four catches on us. looked like a stud. He had a toe tap on the sideline.
00:34:03
Dakota Zeigler
Yeah.
00:34:05
Lord Hinkie
Jamar Chase is very good at football, and so is Jaburo. You should draft those guys.
00:34:09
Dakota Zeigler
But again, you're starting the guys in preseason. Damian?
00:34:13
Ninja
I'm on the opposite field of this. Have you ever heard of a fighter in like the UFC? know, you talk about the weeks up to the fight. Imagine him just not training or sparring in the upcoming weeks to the fight.
00:34:26
Lord Hinkie
Well, I would...
00:34:27
Ninja
It's going to be a bad fight. He's not going to be ready. It's the same thing with football players in preseason.
00:34:29
Dakota Zeigler
Thank you.
00:34:32
Ninja
They at least need one or two go rounds, full pads, full contact to get up to speed, get the speed right, because practice speed and play speed are two very different things.
00:34:45
Ninja
Junior? Junior?
00:34:46
Lord Hinkie
See, I see what you're saying, but a big thing in the NFL that they're doing now in training camp is joint practices where teams will go to other teams' facilities and they will practice against each other the entire week.
00:34:59
Lord Hinkie
That whole week, they're going ones up against the ones in practice. Yes, it is practice, but they're doing live game like speed, basically like a scrimmage almost. They are getting those live reps in at practice. I don't need to see them doing it on the field.
00:35:14
Ninja
Keyword, scrimmage. There is a no one getting hit.
00:35:15
Lord Hinkie
Yeah.
00:35:16
Ninja
Offensive linemen aren't getting put through the ringer as they would in the game.
00:35:19
Lord Hinkie
Yes, they are.
00:35:21
Ninja
QBs don't get sacked in joint practices.
00:35:23
Lord Hinkie
Well, they're never going to they're never going to get sacked to practice.
00:35:26
Ninja
But that's the thing.
00:35:26
Lord Hinkie
That's never going happen.
00:35:27
Ninja
You have to get a feel for pressure. Like, if you're in practice and you're a quarterback, you could just stand there and hold the ball because you're not going to get touched. You're a quarterback in preseason in joint practice.
00:35:38
Ninja
Whereas you're in a game, guess what? You're not wearing that fancy red penny anymore. You're fair meat, which means you have to process fast. You have to get through things fast. Whereas joint practices are nice. where That's where I want to see one-on-ones go.
00:35:51
Ninja
But starters still need at least a drive two. maybe two out of the three preseasons games just to keep them moving with game speed.
00:36:03
Ninja
Or else you're going to get everyone week one where it's just kind of like, this offense looks slow. What happened to Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase?
00:36:13
Lord Hinkie
I see what you're saying. i I think established players just don't need that. And if if you need to have the feel again for pressure, then maybe you just, you're not all there then.
00:36:23
Ninja
Yeah, you stand outside of Burger King and jump in front of the line.
00:36:23
Lord Hinkie
I think,
00:36:27
Lord Hinkie
exactly.
00:36:28
Ninja
yeah
00:36:29
Lord Hinkie
i do think the NFL is going to get rid of another preseason game, if not preseason all in general. I think they're going to go to two preseason games and probably add in another actual regular season week too, if i had to bet, sake.
00:36:42
Dakota Zeigler
So ah talking about pressure and everything, peep Anthony Richardson there in that game, by the way, too. But I do want to bring up the point that the Bengals haven't ever started their starters in preseason before.
00:36:56
Dakota Zeigler
This is Joe Burrow's first preseason where he's actually healthy, by the way. And he's year four, six, something like that. don't It's been a while. Now, remember last year? i don't know if you guys are in. I think it's a survivor league where you got to at least get one team right out of all the games, like a money line bet almost.
00:37:16
Dakota Zeigler
But if you pick the losing team, you are done. You don't get to play in that league anymore. was an all formats league last year. and of that game mode in Dynasty and Fantasy.
00:37:30
Dakota Zeigler
Goodness, I'm stumbling. Gary, what is wrong with us today?
00:37:32
Lord Hinkie
Yeah, I don't know. It's too late, buddy.
00:37:34
Ninja
Yeah, I'm doing just fine. Fix it, guys. What are we doing?
00:37:38
Dakota Zeigler
But there was that Fantasy mode, and everyone was picking the Bengals. Everyone, almost 80% of that league, picked the Bengals to beat the Patriots week one last year.
00:37:49
Dakota Zeigler
Guess what happened? Bengals lost. Bengals have been known to get a slow start week one. I mean, they heat up pretty fast and they can drop 80 on anyone.
00:38:02
Dakota Zeigler
But week one has never been their strong suit. Is that because their starters don't play preseason? I don't know. But I'm curious to see what the Bengals do this year now that the Bengals have started their starters in preseason.
00:38:15
Dakota Zeigler
That's kind of my control and my experiment here.
00:38:24
Lord Hinkie
That's a good take. I think you're on to something there. I guess it's team dependent. And obviously it's what your head coach believes in. As an Eagles fan, Nick Sierani has been a very big advocate for sitting starters during preseason because you don't want them to take a lot more hits.
00:38:41
Lord Hinkie
We want to keep them healthy. want to keep them fresh. They know how to play football. They don't need preseason games. But I can understand if you are a team that's known for being slow starters and you need those couple extra reps, then go for it. only way out I would come back to you with that is Joe Burrow. I think he played two series in their last preseason game after the Eagles. I think they played Washington.
00:39:07
Lord Hinkie
He took a couple sacks. hate to see that in preseason, obviously, but is is is the coach to blame for throwing him out there and giving him the opportunity to be hit more?
00:39:18
Lord Hinkie
Because if Joe Burrow gets hurt playing in preseason, the head coach is never going to hear the end of that. they they They ruin their season before it even starts.
00:39:26
Dakota Zeigler
Thank
00:39:26
Lord Hinkie
But on the contrary, if it turns out you Bengals actually play well week one and week two, and they get off to a hotter start than they normally do, then the head coach looks good. So it's risk, but it seems like the Bengals are willing to take it.
00:39:39
Ninja
So you guys want to peep a couple podcasts ago, remember when I said I joked like i miss when people were trying to compete with each other in the league where you're taking like off days where like they're not getting paired with the best anymore.
00:39:54
Ninja
competition's not great, but you just want to start, so you go to a certain team. I think Jair Alexander was the point of conversation where Howie offered him more money, and he just decided to join the Ravens, which is fine. We don't need you.
00:40:06
Dakota Zeigler
Thank
00:40:07
Ninja
But it's like, where's the competition? That's where I view preseason. You want competitors. You want guys willing to suit up. like Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase, guys making big-time money, proven guys.
00:40:18
Ninja
Yeah, have them suit up for a game and just you don't have to play a lot. I'm not asking, you know, for them to play a whole half. I just want two or three drives. You know, you get that rhythm down and I think that helps. Maybe not like Burrow and Chase are always going to have a connection.
00:40:34
Ninja
but maybe like Andre Yousavis or whatever his name is, who played a lot for them last year. Get those reps with those guys, with him and Joe Burrow in a an atmosphere where it it feels like real football, you know what I mean?
00:40:48
Ninja
Where you're getting those reps with those guys with the starting quarterback. So if T. Higgins goes down or Jamar Chase goes down, and you already have those reps. You already know what you're doing. It's... He's just quick.
00:40:59
Ninja
Whereas if you put him in stone cold without Joe Burrow, there's a different cadence than with the second team guys.
00:41:05
Lord Hinkie
Stone cold.
00:41:06
Ninja
So. What?
00:41:08
Lord Hinkie
What? Sorry, you said that and i couldn't help myself. It did.
00:41:11
Ninja
and
00:41:12
Lord Hinkie
It triggered one of my tics and I just like have to say it out loud.
00:41:17
Dakota Zeigler
I see what Damian is saying, and i i I would hate to see the NFL just delete preseason personally. I'm with Damian here. Let the starters get a couple of drives together.
00:41:27
Dakota Zeigler
But preseason is huge for a lot of those undrafted guys for JCM right now, for guys, for for rookies especially, you know, just to give the feel like that.
00:41:36
Lord Hinkie
Well, that's what it's for.
00:41:37
Dakota Zeigler
So I don't I don't think they should cut it.
00:41:38
Lord Hinkie
It's for rookies and young players.
00:41:43
Dakota Zeigler
I kind of like the three games that we're at now. I feel like that's a good amount. Give everyone a week rest before the actual NFL season. think two is going to be too little, and I think four was kind of a lot.
00:41:54
Lord Hinkie
Yeah.
00:41:54
Dakota Zeigler
I mean, we already extended the season length, so then keeping a longer preseason. So I think where we're at now is good. But i I mean, I see what you're saying, Gary. i i I think they're going to extend the NFL by one more week eventually.
00:42:08
Dakota Zeigler
i don't know if I brought up on this podcast before, but if they could push the whole season back one more week, add one more week, that Super Bowl would end on a three-day weekend, which would just be phenomenal for the whole
Injury Updates and Team Strategies
00:42:21
Dakota Zeigler
NFL community.
00:42:22
Lord Hinkie
For the world, yeah.
00:42:23
Dakota Zeigler
don't know why they don't do it.
00:42:24
Ninja
Pause. Pause. On this podcast, are you cheating on us? What is going on?
00:42:31
Dakota Zeigler
Well, ah you know, I do my own thing, but no I don't. I have never. I guess I've been on the All 4 Rides podcast once, but I'm not a staple there. So.
00:42:41
Ninja
Gary, kick him.
00:42:44
Lord Hinkie
I can't. He actually owns his pocket.
00:42:44
Dakota Zeigler
I got the power.
00:42:46
Lord Hinkie
He's got the power. Yeah, I wish I could. I would love to mute him sometimes. I would love to have that power, but I can't do that right now. Anyways, Jen, I believe we can kind of run through some injury notes here before we end ah podcast. Keeping everybody updated on the injuries going along the NFL. Man, it's been a rough night for us podcasters.
00:43:08
Lord Hinkie
A couple new spots here. Darnell Mooney is questionable for week one with a shoulder injury. From my notes, it looks like he's going to be week to week is what it sounds like. Nothing too huge fancy value-wise there, but all the Drake London, all the Bijan Robinson, and more room for Kyle Pitts.
00:43:30
Lord Hinkie
Moving on quickly, Isaiah Likely,
00:43:33
Dakota Zeigler
Okay.
00:43:33
Ninja
Smart.
00:43:34
Lord Hinkie
Underwent foot surgery, but is still only questionable for week one. I guess it was a minor foot surgery from what I heard. was expected to miss five or six weeks by the time he had the surgery done, which was, I believe, two weeks ago.
00:43:49
Lord Hinkie
So he's still expected to be healthy and, you know, whatever that is for week one. I would assume he's going to get off to a slow start. This kind of holds back that likely taking the job from Mark Andrews thing. But I think he'll be a fine addition for the rest of the season. And then obviously he is still, you know, all green lights if Mark Andrews were to go down.
00:44:09
Lord Hinkie
Doesn't change much for us there. Khalil Shakur has a high ankle sprain, and he's expected to be good for week one. Slower start in preseason, but he's going to be good for week one.
00:44:20
Lord Hinkie
Same thing with Gene Reed.
00:44:20
Dakota Zeigler
Thank you.
00:44:22
Lord Hinkie
He has a foot injury, still expected to be okay for week one. then the biggest news is Joe Mixon. Joe Mixon is very questionable for week one with a foot slash ankle injury.
00:44:33
Lord Hinkie
And it's looking like he's going to miss some. I don't know if i would say significant time, but he's going to miss some time. I would expect him to miss at least two weeks maybe in the NFL to start the season.
00:44:45
Lord Hinkie
What are you guys thoughts on Mixon missing time? Are you looking to grab Chubb? Do you think that Woody Marks kid might get off to a hot start? Is Damian Pierce still in the NFL? What do you guys think? Zig, Joe Mixon, Mixon a couple weeks start the year.
00:45:00
Dakota Zeigler
Yeah, Joe Mixon is a guy. He's been one I've been fading in dog drafts to. He has just been scary to me. Because he hasn't, I don't think he's played any preseason.
00:45:12
Dakota Zeigler
Am I right about that? Like, I don't think he's been available since.
00:45:15
Ninja
Correct.
00:45:16
Dakota Zeigler
Yeah. So he has no preseason. He's looking to miss a few weeks of actual NFL football. He's, I think he's going to come back to even a slower start.
00:45:28
Dakota Zeigler
He's an older running back who has a ton of miles on him already. It's just, it's rubbing me the wrong way. I mean, it's scary. Nick Chubb, i haven't looked or watched much of him.
00:45:44
Dakota Zeigler
I've seen he was with the starters on Saturday. i don't know how much juice he has left in the tank. Again, I haven't kept up with that. Maybe one of you guys could get to that. I'm a big Woody Marks guy. i think he was one of my Dynasty Gems for the...
00:45:57
Dakota Zeigler
Again, more for the beginning of the year. I don't think he's a long-term answer there, but I think he's got the most juice out of what Mixon will when he comes back, what Chubb has left, and I'm just not a Damian Pierce guy. So I think what he marks is the ah ah long shot there.
00:46:14
Lord Hinkie
Damien. Yeah.
00:46:14
Ninja
Yeah, this whole room's gross with Mixon in it or out of it. Something I'm not touching, especially in your dog drafts, just stay away.
00:46:23
Lord Hinkie
yeah
00:46:24
Ninja
Just don't concern yourself with this situation. Be prepared and don't make yourself have to pick somebody in this room. It's gross. Mixon, I'd say you Dynasty owners to have him, keep him on your bench. Because probably come week nine, he's going to be a full go for sure.
00:46:43
Ninja
earlier than that, like week five, I would say he'd be wheels up and back to the Joe Mixon of old. And then you're still going to get good production from him. But the thing is, like I said in previous podcasts, that offensive line stinks.
00:46:57
Lord Hinkie
Booty.
00:46:58
Ninja
the ball is going to be a problem.
00:47:00
Ninja
So this is a whole as a committee. This is a running back room. You need to start fading or selling.
00:47:07
Lord Hinkie
Yeah. Yeah, the time to trade Joe Mixon was like in the middle of last year. You definitely missed your window to get rid of him. if you have him on your team and you're like a win-now dynasty team, just hold him. You'll probably get a good couple weeks from from in the middle of the year.
00:47:22
Lord Hinkie
i believe he has a good slate at the end of the season against a couple of good matchups like Arizona and the Raiders. Yeah. He's just a hold stash. I think he'll be fine by the end of the year. But if I'm going to pick a running back out of this room to take a step forward, it's probably Woody Marks.
00:47:40
Lord Hinkie
But even with that being said, I don't love it for fantasy. So definitely a fade for me. Najee Harris. Looks like he's also going to miss a couple weeks to start the year.
00:47:52
Lord Hinkie
was dealing with the eye injury that we talked about before. i believe it was a firework incident over the 4th of July.
00:47:58
Ninja
Sorry about that.
00:48:01
Ninja
Got him.
00:48:02
Lord Hinkie
The Amarion Hampton owner doing all he can to get off to a hot start.
00:48:05
Dakota Zeigler
Yeah.
00:48:05
Ninja
Did I do that?
00:48:09
Ninja
did i do that
00:48:11
Lord Hinkie
but then i do
00:48:13
Ninja
but
00:48:15
Lord Hinkie
it's looking like he's going to miss some time to start the year. If not, he might play week one, but it's going to be limited. of now, he's not really practicing because even running causes his eye to hurt, apparently. i don't know how that works, but...
00:48:28
Lord Hinkie
it's looking like Amari and Hampton is going to have the job from day one. And I don't know if he's ever going to look back.
00:48:34
Dakota Zeigler
Yeah, that one's one. Amari Amari and Hampton was a guy that I was kind of, not fading, but worried about a... top pick, especially in dog drafts, that he was going to be a little bit slower start just because Najee is a more than capable backup.
00:48:57
Dakota Zeigler
Not that he's a star or anything that's concerning, but technically I don't think he's missed a game in his career so far. He's had a thousand so yards.
00:49:09
Dakota Zeigler
It's just been... ugly for him. He looks slow. I don't know if you watch any of the tapes on him. It's not always enjoyable to watch Najee Harris.
00:49:18
Lord Hinkie
No.
00:49:18
Dakota Zeigler
But you watch Hampton, you're like, dang! And then you watch Najee and you're like, better than that!
00:49:26
Lord Hinkie
Like, is he running or is he just falling forward?
00:49:27
Dakota Zeigler
You know? It makes me think of the, in the back of my head,
00:49:34
Lord Hinkie
Yeah. Does he have a walker?
00:49:37
Dakota Zeigler
I don't know about you guys, but in the back of my head, when I see him, I hear, dum-dum-dum-dum-dum-dum.
00:49:45
Lord Hinkie
man.
00:49:46
Dakota Zeigler
But with this, who is the backup here now? If Hampton...
00:49:52
Lord Hinkie
was going to say, it's probably still Vidal.
00:49:53
Dakota Zeigler
You think it's Vidal?
00:49:54
Lord Hinkie
Yeah.
00:49:55
Dakota Zeigler
But this is wheels up.
00:50:00
Dakota Zeigler
This is wheels up for Hampton, though. That's... That's a bottom line here.
00:50:04
Lord Hinkie
Yeah.
00:50:05
Dakota Zeigler
Najee was a guy I was trying to pick up just because I think he could got more work than was going to get more work than people thought. But if he misses a couple weeks, they're not going to give him a shot unless Hampton needs a break or something happens to Hampton, you know, wood.
00:50:21
Lord Hinkie
By the time he's fully healthy, he will come back as Hampton's backup. That'll be what it is.
Player Career Moves and Opportunities
00:50:28
Lord Hinkie
Matthew Stafford has been dealing with a back injury for weeks now, if not months, if not maybe his entire life.
00:50:35
Lord Hinkie
And it's looking like he is missing a lot more practice. He actually showed up to practice today, but he wasn't fully active and participating in all of the drills. Yeah.
00:50:48
Lord Hinkie
this is something that has lingered on so long that it's become concerning. Stafford is he's older. He's 37 years old. He's taken a lot of hits in his career, especially the last couple of years for the Rams.
00:51:02
Lord Hinkie
They have a very poor offensive line. Sean McVay is a great offensive coordinator. I'm not saying he's an offensive mind that he's a head coach, but you know what I'm saying?
00:51:13
Lord Hinkie
can scheme up an offense where, you know, Stafford has a lot of quick hits and he's not getting to hit very often, you I am nervous for Matthew Stafford, not like him in general, because I don't have a lot of shares of Stafford, but the Puka Nakua shares, the Devante Adams shares, even your Kyron Williams and my Terrence Ferguson shares.
00:51:23
Dakota Zeigler
Thank
00:51:33
Lord Hinkie
I am very worried. They kind of hinge on the literal injured back of Matthew Stafford, so this is not a good sign. Sean McVay is saying they expect him to be ready week one, but it's still up in the air.
00:51:47
Lord Hinkie
I'm leaning towards Matthew Stafford is either going to start the year hurt or end the year hurt with this back injury.
00:51:56
Lord Hinkie
What are your guys' thoughts? And is it making you second guess all of your shares of any RAM, really?
00:52:02
Dakota Zeigler
you
00:52:04
Ninja
Well, good news for me, I don't really have any RAM shares. But yes, I am a little worried. I'm very worried for T-Ferg in the one league I do have him in.
00:52:16
Ninja
Sadly, I don't have any Nakua shares. He was kind of hard to get hold of. then Devontae Adams, I'm just out. Without Matthew Stafford, I don't want any of these guys, and it's not even close.
00:52:28
Ninja
Because if Stetson Bennett's throwing them the ball, I'm going to consider them a poverty franchise. And I don't want any of you. I'd rather have Joe Flacco and the Browns.
00:52:41
Ninja
So gross.
00:52:44
Lord Hinkie
Yeah.
00:52:44
Ninja
If Stafford isn't there.
00:52:46
Dakota Zeigler
Yeah, it's not the prettiest thing in the world. Puka Naku is one I'm... Not as worried about, but you do have to temper expectations because it's Jimmy Garoppolo, Hanson G, or Stetson Bennett.
00:53:02
Dakota Zeigler
Neither one is Matthew Stafford with his elite arm talent and just the way he plays football and understanding of the game. Neither one of those are going to amount to what Stafford could do.
00:53:15
Dakota Zeigler
But I think Puka is just that much of an athlete, that good of a player, that he's still going to be serviceable. He's not like a panic sell to me at this point. Devontae Adams, he's already old.
00:53:29
Dakota Zeigler
Poor Devontae, dude. If I'm Devontae Adams and I'm peed off at the Raiders organization and I can't get anything going and Jimmy G's throwing me the ball, this doesn't work out, so he leaves.
00:53:43
Dakota Zeigler
He goes to the Rams. Stafford's here. I'm ready to ball out. And then Stafford gets hurt, and guess who is throwing him the ball again? and it's Jimmy G, this guy may straight up retire.
00:53:55
Dakota Zeigler
The guy just may quit.
00:53:57
Ninja
He could absolutely retire. Yeah.
00:53:58
Dakota Zeigler
Like...
00:53:59
Ninja
But, like, I feel like, so I understand, like, receivers, like, you know, get your bag when you can get it. He already made a ton of money. Why not, like, sign, like, a lesser deal? But you go to Baltimore, who's been looking for a receiver for the longest time.
00:54:12
Dakota Zeigler
Yep. yep
00:54:13
Ninja
The Chiefs, who, without Rasheed Rice, knows?
00:54:17
Ninja
What is that receiving room? Like, ah ah understand, like, make your money. But, like, if your ultimate goal is to win a championship and, like, be productive and work with these high-profile QBs, do it.
00:54:29
Ninja
And stop signing these. Like, obviously, he wanted to work with Stafford, and it sucks that Stafford's hurt. But you had an opportunity before signing this big old contract with the Rams to go get your pick of the litter almost of any team that's competing.
00:54:47
Ninja
He could have went to the Chargers with Justin Herbert. Like i said, the Ravens. He could have signed with the Bills on cheaper deals. And I wonder why more players don't do that.
00:54:58
Ninja
Like it could be like seen like chasing a ring or whatever, but like, guess what? I want to be memorialized in history forever for a couple million. Yeah, sure.
00:55:08
Dakota Zeigler
Yeah. See, Devante Adams, I thought he'd be a ring chaser, like playing on a little bit more of a high profile team. Not that I don't think with a healthy Stafford, the the Rams wouldn't be in it, but he, mean, he doesn't have any rings.
00:55:22
Dakota Zeigler
See, like you said, to take lesser and go to Baltimore who's, or the chiefs, you know, one that's almost guaranteed. I mean, the bills right now would be a phenomenal team to go play for.
00:55:35
Dakota Zeigler
To me, I i mean, Devontae Adams, one watching Hard Knocks, it seems like an absolute wonderful human in itself, very family-oriented man. To me, this just screams out of my head as a dad myself, like, hey, Vegas seems like a good spot. you may have a good school out there for his kids.
00:55:53
Dakota Zeigler
Warm weather, I mean, I'm sure he's tired of freezing, playing outside at Lambeau all the time, so give me a nice place with warm weather. And I mean, I think the Rams, looking from,
00:56:04
Dakota Zeigler
head coach caliber at the time he's well I guess not at the time he signed because Harbaugh was part of the Chargers there but I mean I think just the Rams are a little bit closer than the Chargers in the Super Bowl contentions especially if he's only planning to play for maybe just this year left yet I don't know not gonna know unless he tells us unfortunately be very interesting to see what his process was behind that but that's my take
00:56:32
Lord Hinkie
Brandon Iyuk is looking like he's going to return around week six this year, as I said but from Kyle Shanahan. He suffered an ACL and an MCL injury week eight of last season, and it's looking like it's going to take pretty much an entire year for him to come back. Yeah.
00:56:52
Lord Hinkie
I feel like this was kind of expected. With medicine nowadays, i I would have thought he could maybe play a couple weeks earlier, if not be ready for around week one. But it's looking like he has either had some hiccups in his recovery or since it's an ACL and an MCL sprain, they just want to be more cautious with it. Or I'm sorry, a tear.
00:57:11
Lord Hinkie
They just want to be more cautious with it. Yeah. So, Brent Ayuk is going to get off to a slow start. This is exactly why I told you I think Ricky Pearsall is going to be big, big – he's a my guy this year for sure.
00:57:25
Lord Hinkie
i think he's going to get off to hot start, and i don't know if he's going to give Ayuk the job back. think San Francisco in general is going to get off to a slow start with Brock Purdy. John Jennings is also nursing a calf injury right now.
00:57:37
Dakota Zeigler
Thank you.
00:57:38
Lord Hinkie
it's looking a little murky over there in San Francisco. If you as long as you if you don't have a CMC, you're probably going to be a little disappointed. But Damon, what's your thoughts on you missing at least probably at least until week six?
00:57:51
Lord Hinkie
And who are you targeting there as a player you would think can help with the workload in his absence?
00:57:59
Ninja
You summed it up perfectly. It's wheels up for Ricky Pearsall. That's the person to benefit most from this. I'm trying to think of other guys there.
00:58:10
Ninja
Thing is, can't think of any besides Ricky Pearsall. Like that's how much their teams changed in the last year. i don't even know the wide receiver three for the San Francisco 49ers.
00:58:21
Ninja
I have no idea. I know George Kittle's still there.
00:58:24
Ninja
That's cool.
00:58:24
Lord Hinkie
Jacob Cowing.
00:58:27
Ninja
Yeah, no shot.
00:58:28
Lord Hinkie
Who?
00:58:28
Ninja
would have got that.
00:58:28
Lord Hinkie
100%.
00:58:30
Ninja
But Ricky Pearsall is the person to own in the San Francisco wide receiver corps.
00:58:37
Lord Hinkie
hundred percent
00:58:38
Dakota Zeigler
Yeah. I mean, CMC to the moon, Kittle to the moon. They should be top three at their respective, respected positions there. No doubt about it. The other name to shout out here for the 49ers as a wide receiver outside of Pearsall, I mean, Pearsall is going to be a stud.
00:58:59
Dakota Zeigler
We talked about him enough, though. Is DeMarcus Robinson there? And I don't think he's an awful player, but to start the year, he is looking at a three-year probation i believe.
00:59:11
Ninja
He's going to get suspended.
00:59:13
Dakota Zeigler
He's going to get suspended, but for the weeks they have him, I mean, they have no one else. So I think for this is more of like your DFS plays, if you're out there playing DFS still, that he may get off to a hot start for one or two weeks before the suspension comes down.
00:59:30
Dakota Zeigler
So if he's out there, he's going to be a super cheap $3,000, you know, bottom of the barrel type of deal. but it's going to be year for the year. Like I said, I think San Francisco starts off slow as well.
00:59:42
Dakota Zeigler
But I mean, when you have CMC, who's an absolute stud, you have Kittle, who's absolute stud, you have Pierce, who's a stud. This is just the Falcon situation all over.
00:59:54
Dakota Zeigler
You got your three guys. You're going to simplify the equation minimum zero in on your big three and letter it.
01:00:02
Lord Hinkie
It stinks because they have a couple good matchups going early on in that season against New Orleans and Arizona and Jacksonville. There's a lot of teams he could have taken advantage of, but obviously he'll be on the sidelines.
01:00:14
Lord Hinkie
Another guy looks like he's going to starting the year slow is Chris Godwin. Latest news is that he is expected to start on the pup list, which means he'll miss at least the first month of the season, miss the first four games.
01:00:28
Lord Hinkie
So it's looking like he's going to get off to a slow start. obviously had the very horrific leg injury from last season. I believe was around week seven, if I do remember. I'm actually going to double-check myself, and I was.
01:00:40
Lord Hinkie
Week seven of last year, brutal leg snap.
01:00:41
Dakota Zeigler
Thank you.
01:00:43
Lord Hinkie
Everyone saw it on their X, whether you wanted to or not. it's looking like probably week five start for Chris Godwin. It's not confirmed yet, but expected. Yeah. we obviously have our Chris Godwin bet that you guys happily agreed to. And I'm, uh, very happy to take my side of that Travis Hunter bet.
01:01:02
Lord Hinkie
And the player who's going to take advantage of Chris Godwin's absence has to be a Mecca Ibuka. another injury note from Tampa Bay is that Jalen McMillan, uh, suffered a pretty severe neck strain. And I believe their last preseason game or was in practice after the preseason game.
01:01:20
Lord Hinkie
So it's looking like that wide receiver core is basically going to be Mike Evans and Egmeca Egbuka. So... Wheels up for Egbuka. If you have Mike Evans, you love them already, but Egbuka is going to get off to a hot start. He's looking like a great pick at the end of your first rounds at rookie drafts.
01:01:37
Lord Hinkie
And to be honest, it's going to be another guy who, once he takes that job, it's going to be tough for them to give it back to Godwin once he comes back. So I'd be interested to see how that whole wide receiver landscape works.
01:01:50
Dakota Zeigler
Mm-hmm.
01:01:51
Lord Hinkie
ends up after Egbuka gets off to a good start and Chris Godwin's healthy and McMillan's healthy and Mike Evans is still doing his thing.
01:02:01
Lord Hinkie
It's going to be very interesting down there in Tampa Bay. But with that being said, wheels up for all the Baker Mayfield. Zig.
01:02:08
Dakota Zeigler
Yeah, I'm a little upset about this one. Chris Godwin was an absolute beast last year. I believe he was like the second best wide receiver in fantasy up until his injury.
01:02:21
Dakota Zeigler
I mean, finishing wide receiver 8, wide receiver 6, then 21, 33, 40, then the wide receiver 1, 18, and then the injury. The guy has a, I would bet to say, one of the best connections with his quarterback and Baker.
01:02:37
Dakota Zeigler
They're just on the same page, and you've seen that last year.
01:02:39
Ninja
and that's what we're doing.
01:02:40
Dakota Zeigler
Whether that was part of the system or just a pure connection they had, I was excited to keep that continuing. With Godwin being 29, I think they're doing the right thing about not rushing him back and letting him just kind of heal up and come back hopefully stronger and not risk another re-injury there.
01:03:01
Dakota Zeigler
But it's Evans... is a guy there. think they're going to try to break the record and get him a thousand to beat Jerry Rice's record there this year. So I think they're going to go to him early and often.
01:03:13
Dakota Zeigler
and Mecca and Buka is a guy who should absolutely dominate as well. the the The running back situation, you got Bucky and Rashad White is still hurt.
01:03:25
Dakota Zeigler
So I get very condensed there. They're also just getting Cade Otten back too off of the injury. I don't remember what Cade Otten had, but he's just returning back to practice now as well. So your two tight end sets, Cade Otten's a guy that should see some early uptick and some work.
01:03:41
Dakota Zeigler
Damian, any thoughts on Godwin?
01:03:44
Ninja
Yeah, it really stinks. Go State. It sucks for the guys.
01:03:47
Dakota Zeigler
We are. Mm-hmm.
01:03:49
Ninja
He was electric ah last year. But this is just wheels up for Egbuka. Jaden McMillan is going down with something. i don't know the injury off the top my head.
01:04:00
Ninja
But he will be out multiple weeks. So this Egbuka to the moon. And I thought going in that this was one of the grossest landing spots. Turns out I was wrong.
01:04:12
Ninja
That this is should be one of the most coveted and one of the most fruitful rookie wide receiver landing spots.
01:04:22
Ninja
And it sucks that it's due to injury, but Emeka Ibuka could probably be end up at the end of the season having the best wide receiver stat line as a rookie.
01:04:34
Ninja
Say good.
01:04:35
Dakota Zeigler
Yeah, I agree with that. I just want to mention here, like you were saying about, we were kind of worried about this landing spot. He was going almost middle of the second round. If this was the position he was in when he got drafted, he's easily a mid to late round first in your rookie drafts.
01:04:52
Dakota Zeigler
He would have shot up there so fast.
01:04:53
Ninja
Top six. Top six.
01:04:54
Dakota Zeigler
He would have shot up there so fast. So it's one of those things where if you took the shot on him in the second round, I mean, you're over the moon right now and you lost your chance to buy him.
01:05:07
Dakota Zeigler
That's it. I don't think anyone's selling him at this point.
01:05:10
Lord Hinkie
No chance. Zero chance. it was great buy. And Miguel Bucca, you know, being a late first-round pick, I kind of believed he was going to be just a fine starter in the NFL.
Travion Henderson's Rise and Health Concerns
01:05:22
Lord Hinkie
But he's gotten some opportunity kind of open up for him, and I'm excited to see what he can do down there in Tampa Bay with Baker.
01:05:28
Dakota Zeigler
Thank you.
01:05:30
Lord Hinkie
A few more notes before we head out here. Tashi Spears has a high ankle sprain. Looks like he's going to miss a couple weeks. No one really cares. Tony Pollard is probably going get all the work first couple of seasons, but that's kind of about it.
01:05:41
Lord Hinkie
Jordan Love has a thumb injury. I believe it's on his non-throwing thumb. I heard he might have had a minor procedure or is expected to have a minor procedure done. All in all, still expected for week one, just might have some kind of wrist injury.
01:05:56
Lord Hinkie
thumb restraint kind of thing. Cam Scadaboo was getting a couple of limited practices in with a hamstring. Malik Neighbors is returned back to practice after a foot injury. So both of them are looking on the up and up for the Giants. And the last note I have in here that kind of threw in at the last minute, because I feel like we have to talk about them is Travion Henderson.
01:06:17
Lord Hinkie
has been tearing up basically the entire training camp news lately. First two weeks, he obviously had the 100-yard kick return to start the preseason game in week one.
01:06:30
Lord Hinkie
He had another rushing touchdown in week two. He's looked way, way better than I think any of us expected that start the season. I think he's going to win that job over Mondray Stevenson.
01:06:42
Lord Hinkie
very, very early. I think they're going to have a committee. They're both going to get their shares, but I think Hendo's going to be the guy there for New England pretty early on, and to be honest, I'm excited for it. He looks electric, Zig. what are your thoughts?
01:06:54
Dakota Zeigler
Oh, I absolutely love it. The first touch. Like, I mean, returning that kick re return and you're just like, he's the guy. That moment, you just knew he was the guy. i want to say here really quickly that I am not the best fantasy player.
01:07:09
Dakota Zeigler
If you're listening to this pod, you know my takes don't mean almost anything.
01:07:11
Ninja
Yeah.
01:07:14
Dakota Zeigler
That I'm just here to hang out with the boys. If you place in our main league, the straight cash league, you know I have the worst team in the league. And that's because, i mean, that league is hard for me because I'm playing with all these elite other guys in there. I'm definitely the newest and and most fresh there. I'm the fish in that league.
01:07:35
Dakota Zeigler
But I tried to take all this fantasy advice that we give, the All 4 Mets podcast give, and I put it towards my other leagues that I'm in. This one league, it's actually the All 4 Mets free league I'm in.
01:07:46
Dakota Zeigler
I'm sitting with running backs Ashton Janty, Omari and Hampton, Christian McCaffrey, CMC, and Travion Henderson. With two running back spots, two flex spots, I mean, I feel like I'm just going to run this league from worst to first with just those four running backs.
01:08:06
Dakota Zeigler
I mean, in my eyes, I could have the top four running backs of the whole entire league right there. It's beautiful.
01:08:15
Dakota Zeigler
You're muted, Gary.
01:08:17
Lord Hinkie
That is a pretty impressive stack Ninja, as the guy who was at the highest on Henderson during this offseason breakdown, what are your thoughts now?
01:08:22
Dakota Zeigler
The hater.
01:08:29
Lord Hinkie
Are you water or are you stone? Do you still think Hendo stinks or are you fluid enough to go, well, maybe he could be a guy there doing
01:08:38
Ninja
Uh, two things. First off, uh, one of my favorite things we do in this pod is, uh, the who cares when you said it for Tajay Spears, I was laughing audibly. think I was muted for that, but I, I love that bit. I, we need to keep doing that.
01:08:50
Ninja
two, uh, I was never out on Henderson. I didn't think he was a bad player. It was his injury history. That was it. I love him as a player. If he can stay healthy, he's going to be electric and he's shown it.
01:09:03
Ninja
I'm just not a fan of the injury history there with a running back who basically sat two years at Ohio State. That still worries me a bit. but I do like his film.
01:09:14
Ninja
I think I said that, he's been lighting it up, uh, for the Patriots, uh, an electric guy. i just hope he can stay healthy. I don't have any shares, but I can't, I hope he proves me wrong.
01:09:26
Ninja
I really do. I love him as a player.
01:09:29
Lord Hinkie
I'm glad you were able to actually announce that because I think a lot of people got him, me included, took your cautiousness for hatred of Henderson.
01:09:40
Lord Hinkie
I can understand him, you know, the injury history there at Ohio State. You kind of got to push the brakes a little bit. But a fully healthy Henderson is going to be a great, great player in this league, and I'm excited to see it.
Closing Remarks and Listener Engagement
01:09:52
Lord Hinkie
But, gents, I think that finishes up our little gossip between us girls session here, talking about football and, you know, the latest news and notes. This was a great one. This was a good time.
01:10:03
Lord Hinkie
I appreciate everybody listening tuning in, and sticking with us, basically just ah ah shooting the crap, listening to us talk about our little fantasy football things we want to talk about.
01:10:15
Lord Hinkie
But, yeah, I think next week we don't have a full plan on what we're going to be doing for the next podcast.
01:10:17
Ninja
go
01:10:21
Lord Hinkie
I would love to get our rankings out there before the season actually starts. i don't know if you guys can come up with rankings by next week. I definitely can because I've been working on them already. But I think a rankings pod is in our near future.
01:10:34
Lord Hinkie
but stay tuned for the all formats ZNG dynasty collab coming up this weekend, probably going to be published next week.
01:10:44
Lord Hinkie
That's going be a great time. I'm excited to see you boys in real life and also do the podcast. Zig, any notes before you head out of here?
01:10:51
Dakota Zeigler
No, like I said, just listen in to our new intro that should be coming out ah ah soon. Listen in to our collab with the All Formats crew, ah live collab as well, which is going to be an absolute blast to hang out with those guys.
01:11:06
Dakota Zeigler
Just excited for everyone listening in. Feel free to hit us up on the socials at ZNG Dynasty. there's any pod ideas you that you want us to do, anything you think would be fun for us to try, think we're down to do just about anything.
01:11:21
Dakota Zeigler
Feel free to put it in the comments somewhere. I'm always watching over that. Or hit us up at ZNG g Dynasty at gmail.com.
01:11:29
Lord Hinkie
Lovely. Damien, before we head out.
01:11:33
Ninja
Another great one with the boys today. You guys got an inside look at basically our text threads throughout the week. What we talk about each other during the week. You got a real up-close look at the Between Us Girls group thread we have.
01:11:49
Ninja
So happy you guys were along for this one. This is just the boys bullcrapping about some football. And it's great be on as always. Don't over hype or over analyze the preseason too much.
01:12:03
Ninja
You know, be hopeful for some guys like Ja'Cory Cross and Merritt. But, you know, not everything's set in stone yet. So be tentatively ambitious.
01:12:16
Lord Hinkie
I like that. tentively tented Tentatively ambitious. Me trying to put that tongue twister out there after i can't even speak today is absurd. don't know who I think I am, but and I think that's a great call.
01:12:27
Ninja
You're doing great. zi Zig sign him now while his value is low. Get him.
01:12:35
Lord Hinkie
Yeah, this is tough. We're going to talk next week.
01:12:36
Dakota Zeigler
I got like four fab coming your way.
01:12:39
Lord Hinkie
I'm a free agent? But anyways, fellas, i appreciate everybody listening in. Appreciate everybody tuning in. As always, be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. You never know what people could go through nowadays.
01:12:52
Lord Hinkie
Be a smile on face for everybody else. And, you know, I hope you guys have fun little group chats with your buddies where you get to just talk about football because I'm glad that I do. And I'm glad that I get to do a podcast with these boys nowadays.
01:13:04
Lord Hinkie
and basically just throw our text thread into a recorded audio session, which is literally what we do. But I hope you guys have this in your own lives as well. If you don't, set one up with your boys, because I'm sure they want to talk football with you too.
01:13:17
Lord Hinkie
So tune in the next one. Peace.