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277- Inflatable Animal Advocacy
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Animals represented by inflatables, onesies & other costumed representation are increasingly becoming part of vegan campaigns. How effective are they? And is it ever better to deflate for the animals?!
Shane, Paul & Anthony ponder this niche corner of the animal rights movement.
In this discussion we referance:
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https://www.livekindly.com/vegan-marathon-runner-fiona-oakes-wins-guinness-world-record-in-a-cow-costume/
https://yaledailynews.com/articles/animal-rights-activists-protest-use-of-animals-in-yale-labs
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Introduction to Vegan Talk
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Hello everyone! No need to be shy, just zip yourself up in that giant inflatable chicken suit and run a marathon! I'm Shane and for this episode of Vegan Talk, I'm also joined by Paul and Antony.
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So I think vegans go looking for trouble even when they're not looking for trouble. That's not what butter's used for! Brrr! Take your flour-grown meat elsewhere. We're not doing that in the state of Florida.
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Should I call the medium and say, hi, sorry. True education. The younger generation are getting know how brutal these practices are. That leaves a lot of pizza delivery companies in problems with things.
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What this? What kind of movie is this? It's comedy gold, maybe. Any form of social enjoyment.
00:00:48
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As long as you don't get the wee brunions with the horns you'll be alright. Does veganism give him superpowers?
00:00:57
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I cannot fly around the city. I don't have laser vision. Hello everyone, this is Paul. Welcome to this episode of Vegan Talk and thank you for being here. Hi
Focus on Timeless Issues
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everyone, Anthony here. So this is Vegan Talk where we don't take something from the week's news, we don't take something that's time sensitive, we take a bit more of a timeless issue. So it might be we're reviewing a movie or a book, or we might be discussing something philosophical, or we might be discussing something that's just like, oh, have you ever considered this as a vegan? Or from an animal rights perspective, The good news about that is that, like I say, these are kind of timeless issues and therefore all the previous 100 plus other episodes of Vegan Talk are in our podcast player now for you to listen to. by the end By the time you get through them all, you'll have forgotten what we said in the first one and you'll have changed your opinion. So you can go back and listen to them again. It's just an endless cycle of vegan philosophical fun. So vegan talk episodes on your podcast player are the ones with the yellow background and the black text that says vegan talk, as opposed to the pink ones where we talk about the news and the green ones where we hear people's vegan stories. But yeah, check those out if you haven't already. So
Animal Costumes in Activism
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in this episode, we'll be discussing the practice of wearing animal costumes to make a point or to be cute or to draw attention. And Kate, who did the research for this episode, gave us a few examples to discuss. And the first is a Facebook post of an activist who's dressed as a as a dog and um who was outside of Barclays, which I think is a bank, to protest their involvement in MBR Acres, which is the facility that ah breeds and experiments on dogs.
00:02:41
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and Apparently, she was pushed down by the security outside of Barclays. and um She posted a photo of her in the dog costume, and she is lying on the ground. ah The next example we have is an Instagram video of the Bristol Parade for the Animals.
00:02:58
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And ah in the brief clip, you can see that activists are dressed as animals, some of them. Others are carrying inflatable pigs or cows or farm animals, um kind of on sticks and and waving them around with their signs.
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A third example that Kate included was of a vegan marathon runner named Fiona Oaks, and she won the Guinness World Record for fastest half marathon in an animal costume. Apparently, that is a category that you can win a world record for. You can win world records for all sorts in marathons and things that someone broke the world marathon record dressed as a Morris dancer at the London Marathon a couple weeks ago. So it's all up for grabs. Anthony, you got to get on that one. Oh no, it was way too quick for me.
00:03:45
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So she, um this, Ms. Rudder was dressed as a cow and I'm ostensibly to call attention to the fact that she's vegan. So another example is a protest that happened at Yale university where people who were protesting against animals being experimented on at the school dressed as animals. And in and the picture, you have a protester wearing a large, it was either a mouse or a rat head and holding a sign that says, animal liberation now. And then finally, Kate provided us of a video of a protester dressed as meat, ah maybe a cow. I wasn't a sure exactly what kind of meat it was supposed to be. And the protester was pretending to be dead and lying on a meat counter at a grocery store. And the reel, which was by posted by Soya, the cow, says that this is a new form of protest. You lie on the meat counter, have a friend film you, and then you leave when asked by security and then
00:04:40
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post the video. Okay. So all of these are examples of people dressing as animals. So to begin, Paul and Anthony, have either of you ever dressed as an animal?
00:04:51
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I mean, I guess let's like say above the age of 10. I mean, because you can't help what your parent might have dressed you as when you were young. So have you ever dressed as an animal or a vegetable or a fruit? But I think we're mainly thinking of animals. I have, sorry to bring Morris dancing into the conversation for a second time, but I have been in a pantomime horse outfit with another person who was also vegan actually, and done a Morris dance in that it was not for animal rights. I don't think there was any positive outcomes from animals for animals from that performance. But other than that, no, I have ran in
00:05:32
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running races with other, I mean, not alongside, but other participants in the race have been dressing up as animals for vegan reasons.
00:05:44
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Um, and I, I chose to just wear a vegan runner's vest. Um, but I've been um at the start line with, with other animals and it's, yeah, it's quite a sight. Paul, what about you? I can only think of one example off the top of my head now, which was probably on one of the first vegan events we had here locally in Worcester, where I believe I dressed in some kind of chicken outfit and went out with a sign and possibly some food samples. And I seem to remember...
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I went out with someone else and did that. And I remember looking at the suit with fear because I'm the sort of person who doesn't like to draw attention to myself. I'm i'm kind of the opposite to Dominic in this sense. i I don't like being looked at and I like to be like hidden away in the background. So anything that draws attention to me.
00:06:38
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I hate and and and I did that and I felt very self-conscious and I think I also probably at the time because I was early days of you know doing those sorts of things thinking is this is this going to work am I just going to get the piss taken out of me or is this is this a good effective way of doing it so yeah I guess so are the sort of thoughts I had doing that and that was that was quite a while ago now So I'll just add very quickly that I think maybe in college I was a cat for Halloween because I was like something easy that I could do. So I think that is the limit of mine. But Paul, you were saying that when you were dressed as the chicken and you were handing out, did you say you were handing out vegan chicken samples?
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ah i I think it was probably, i think there was two of us and I suspect one of us might have been doing leaflets and one of us doing free food samples. And I i think it was around Christmas and I think we were actually giving out mock turkey rolls that were very good quality. They're very nice. And yeah, I think that was what that was.
00:07:37
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So you weren't handing out chicken? with you were Maybe I was dressed as a turkey. That was it. Maybe it was a turkey then. It was a while ago. I mean, but you did yeah you did in that moment and question whether um you were actually being effective. So,
Effectiveness of Costumes in Advocacy
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I mean, my question to both of you is that example and these others that we've that I've just listed briefly. Do you think those were effective activism? What do you think of the examples? I mean, let's let's just call out the inflatable elephant in the room, which is the fact that some of these look crap and undermine the efforts and a lot of them don't.
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ah That would be my opinion. I'm perfectly happy to hear somebody say, no, all of them are effective. um I think it would be a very harsh spirited person that would say no they're all rubbish and shouldn't be done but if you look at the first example you gave Shane, dear old Frankie the dog outside the Barclays Bank in Bournemouth, it looks crap.
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it I think it undermines it, I think it it smacks of light, is that really the best you can do and there's no one else there as well. I i do get that like you know, if you're the only vegan in the village and you're trying to rally against the animal ag machine or what have you, then anything you're trying, commendable, well done. But I i would imagine lots of people would look at that and go, meh.
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not not so good. Whereas I think anything that's big, I mean, you know, that that parade in Bristol that that The Real is is showing on on Instagram here, some of those are really eye-catching. They're going to make people from across the road go, hang on, what's what's going on there? So that's fantastic. Some of them are really realistic, so doesn't it's not necessarily the bigger the better. Or if you're Fiona Oakes and you you know you've got superhuman strength, speed, or or what have you, if you're doing something quite remarkable in a very basic outfit, I mean, she's basically just wearing a onesie that's got cow print on. I think in a sense, I'm surprised the ah sticklers for high standards, Guinness World Records, have have accepted that as an animal outfit, really.
00:09:47
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But she's done something remarkable in it. So I i think if it is noteworthy. then I think it probably does just draw attention to us in the same way that, you know, Peter used to, I'm going to say that generally they don't do it now, but they generally went with, they or they often went with sex sells. So they just get scantily clad, almost always women, to try and draw attention to their campaigns. And and rightly that was questioned.
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You don't need to do that to get people's attention, you know, an inflatable animal or or something like that, or a cow print onesie, if done in the right way. i I do think it just gets more people's attention. Maybe it drops people's guard a little bit.
00:10:30
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In a way, i'm I'm aware that I'm hogging the airwaves here, but we'll we'll perhaps talk about the soy of the cow thing. pretend to be dead on top of a meat counter a bit later. But I think the levity of an inflatable animal an animal costume might just drop people's guard a little bit, might make them kind of go, oh, this is nice. Oh, what's this? And then eventually they find out that there's a more serious message behind it Yeah, I think it's all like you sort of alluded to, and I think it's it's context. So in some cases, I can see that it'd be a really effective tool as part of a message or sort of something you're trying to deliver.
00:11:06
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bit of theatre, for example, undone well. And other times, I think I've seen various protests, photos, et cetera, where people are wearing like, you know, the cheapest, nastiest kind of Temu outfits that are almost like...
00:11:21
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look, brought border bordering on comical for a serious matter, and then ah the the juxtaposition's all wrong then, is it just, so no, you wouldn't, it just, no, it's not right. So there's an aesthetic there that I think just doesn't work, and if you're going to do it, I think you have to kind of say, is is me wearing this animal costume actually adding to what I'm trying to do, is it going to make it more effective, is it going to grab more attention and and do it in a good way and people aren't just going to laugh or whatever like that. So yeah, i I think there is a lot of context here in terms of what you're trying to do.
00:11:51
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I wonder whether it comes down to practicalities in some instances in that if you kind of say, wouldn't it be a good idea for us to do a protest outside this laboratory at Yale University? Oh yes, it would. Okay, let's get the banners printed. Let's organise some people to do it. Oh crap, right, we need to get the the outfit And like you say, Paul, let's go on Timu, let's go on eBay, let's go on whatever.
00:12:13
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Oh, that's the best rabbit outfit they've got. Well, we need to get it now because the protests next week or what have you get it on Amazon Prime. And I mean, that this one that we've got the link for the the Yale Daily News, there's a mouthful, by the way. And like it it really undermines the message. it's It's a comical rabbit outfit. And you're talking about animals, animals, being cut open and and tortured and incarcerated, vivisection. I don't think a a cartoon rabbit helps the message there at all. Have a picture of a miserable human carrying a ah a poster that's got images of what happens in real life. I ah really don't think the the cartoonish rabbit there does does the message any favours. So I think what you're arguing then is that it can be appropriate to do animal costumes or to use animal costumes in these events, but that the costumes should be tasteful, I guess, because otherwise... Relevant, I suppose, yeah. Okay.
Relevance and Tastefulness of Costumes
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Otherwise, they possibly reinforce exploitation or reduce the animals to props, Yeah, I really think, I mean, maybe if we studied this for hours and hours and hours and hours, we might be able to come up with a sort of, in this circumstance, generally you want to do this. In this circumstance, you generally want to do this. But I i i think that there is a role
00:13:43
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four cartoonish animal outfits and what have you, but that's not going to suit every purpose. And and again, to go back to the the folk protesting outside a university animal lab, probably a giant inflatable is not going to be relevant there either.
00:14:05
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Whereas if it's a parade, if it's you know a running event or what have you, you can still have a serious message. i I've been to see Fiona Oakes talk several times and she's spoken about running in this this cow outfit. Let's just call it a cow onesie, this cow onesie before. And she said she experimented with responding to people in different ways. So she's running at really quite a fast pace for a marathon runner.
00:14:33
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And each time she passed someone and someone said, oh, why are you running as a cow? Or they commented on her running in a cow onesie. she said every other time she would respond by saying, oh, I'm i'm doing it because i I run an animal sanctuary. So I'm raising money for it.
00:14:50
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And people would respond saying, oh, well done. Good for you. barbarabra And then every other time when someone commented on it, she'd say, I'm doing it to draw attention to the unnecessary oppression and exploitation of cows.
00:15:03
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And people's responses were, oh, and and and And that was it. So it depends on the message. I'm not saying either of those is a preferable response, but, you know, there's different ways that you can take these things. I don't think it's just down to the to the outfit, is it?
00:15:20
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I'm just impressed you said that second statement while running, to be honest. It's like, does that slow her time down? Because she's got to like tell them the whole thing. She is an incredible, and incredible human being. I encourage anyone who's who doesn't know the story of Fiona Oakes to to delve into it. There's a documentary called Running for Good that features her. and She often does talks at vegan festivals in the UK. You can read stories about her online. She's amazing and has...
00:15:49
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many different elements of her life where she's advocating for animals or advocating for, you know, vegans not being small and weedy, like she's a retained firefighter as well. So she's in and amongst these big burly men just being like, yeah, I'm a female vegan and I can be a firefighter as well. Like him amazing. So I guess just to tell listeners, I don't necessarily have a fixed view on this, but I guess one thing I wonder is is that we've been talking about how wearing the animal costume, like the main purpose seems to be to draw attention to what we're doing. Like Paul, you were saying when you were dressed as the chicken or turkey that you felt like you were drawing a lot of attention to yourself. And then Anthony, you said that during the parade, people might see those inflatable animals or the animals on sticks and then say, oh, what's going on?
00:16:38
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But I think that like society at large also uses animals a lot in that way. So Americans, you'll know Chick-fil-A. Their mascot is a black and white cow who wears a sign that says, eat more chicken. That's spelled incorrectly because, you know, ha ha, cows can't spell. And so the whole point of it is that, isn't it funny that the cow wants people to eat chicken to save it's his own life or her, I guess it's her her own life or whatever.
00:17:06
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So if that also gets people's attention, then but could people passing by just see someone running in a cow costume and not know anything about why she's doing it? And would it be not more effective for her not to wear a shirt that says,
00:17:23
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vegan and strong or something like that. It's interesting. I mean, funny enough, you've said exactly the sort of thing I was just going to bring in there, Shane, about how you you look at how um animal way industry uses a lot of cartoonish animals to sell their products. I know they're not necessarily costumes. I'm sure there is stuff where people are dressed up as costumes. I can't think of anything off the top my but there's a lot of cartoon imagery, fun imagery to kind of have this image of happy animals and happy meat and happy eggs and all this sort of nonsense. So i think there's a, there's a, there's a similarity between the two things. It's, you know, that, that it becomes a ah positive marketing tool for them.
00:18:04
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So, you know, it's, I think it's a comparison to to look at for sure. I think it all points to the fact that you need to do it well, really, because i mean, there's all manner. of animal activism that we could do that has unintended downside side effects or sort of backfire effects, whether it's printing out 10,000 flyers that are going to end up in the bin for your vegan event or for you to to raise awareness for
00:18:39
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you know, animal exploitation in a lab somewhere or whatever, or using Facebook or driving across the country. Like all these things are imperfect things to do, aren't they? And if you use those slightly problematic or slightly undesirable means,
00:18:57
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and the activism itself doesn't do a particularly good job, then yeah, there is a risk that where you've you've bought a synthetic mass-produced rubbish dog outfit, no one's understood why you're doing it, no one's been persuaded, um and it will end up in landfill in the next 50 years, let's be honest. Whereas if it captures the imagination of people, changes hearts and minds in in several cases, gets some momentum going, then it' it's easier to justify those means. And I think having a really Spartan approach to vegan activism, by which I mean one where we say, well, you can't use any resources to advocate on behalf of animals. No, we're not producing that film because you know it it uses up some resources to do so. We're not going to print any flyers because that's felled a tree or what have you. i I think if we take that to its extreme
00:19:54
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As much as I'd like to, I think it disadvantages us and puts us outside the mainstream ways of of doing things.
00:20:05
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We just have to make sure when we are using resources and and and things like that, we're we're doing so well. And I know that's not quite what's being said in terms of, oh, well, we are we playing into that? I think originally you raised that, Shane, into like, are we playing into the anthropomorphizing that dominant culture does and and and sort of making hume ah making animals seem like they're always happy and never suffer and remember everything's great. We just have to make sure that when
00:20:37
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when we're wearing outfits that look a bit like that, we're doing a damn good job to advocate on their behalf, I think, which is hard. I was trying to think of some examples where it's been effective. And um i was I think um with it's still obviously going on at the moment, but Herbie's Law and things like that, where i think they've had I think they've had someone dressed as a dog for that possibly, or am I making it up? I'm not sure.
Notable Campaign Examples
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But that's something think that's called.
00:21:02
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What is Herbie's Law? Herbie's Law is essentially a campaign that's been launched by um what was the um a new name of them? It's not a new name.
00:21:15
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animal free research uk animal free research uk that's right i think they've used something like that to promote it to uh even to uh think like mps and and things like that but the other one that come to my mind that is definitely the case and is not out of my imagination potentially is you think um do you remember the the banksy um puppets and they're kind of dressing up as hand puppets that were put out of the ah truck to kind of almost cartoonise the abuse of animals to, I guess, appeal to children and have these kind of like almost screaming puppet animals. And I think that's that's an example where it's been used as almost like an art form that makes it very effective, very cleverly done, I think. So that that that's the sort of example can think of. I'm sure there's loads of others. I'm going to say i just off the top my head, I'm sure you guys might better come up with some, hopefully. Yeah, but that that i mean that's very cleverly saying you're being presented with fluffy animal, happy, smiley animal, and then you're surrounding it by things that are immediately visually making you go, oh blooming it, those cute animals are off for slaughter or you know things aren't red and rosy.
00:22:27
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that's That's really clever, isn't it? I mean, perhaps you could run a marathon as a yeah I don't know, an inflatable chicken and have a, have someone dressed as a butcher chasing them or I, I, I don't know. Like there's, that is a good idea. There we are, Paul. There's a, there's next year sorted for me and you.
00:22:46
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like so which i'm not see with withdraw no okay fine Should we talk about the soya the cow reel? That's effective, that's not effective. I don't know.
00:23:00
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Was that an animal or was it just like a piece of meat? I couldn't, I watched it. I just could not tell. I mean, it's not, to to me, that's very different, isn't it? it's It's not saying, look at the cute, fluffy animal.
00:23:14
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That's what's going to draw your attention. it's It's almost the complete opposite and in in that someone is is dressing up as a, well, I mean, they're not really, I'm being harsh here, but they're not really dressed up as a piece of meat, are they? I i don't know what that they were, but I thought they looked like they were wearing tights that had like striping that could have been like meat.
00:23:37
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So let's be positive, okay, that the reel starts with a message of, here's an idea for some vegan advocacy, dress up as death or dress up as a piece of meat, lie down on a meat shelf and post the video with the hashtags, meat is dead.
00:23:55
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Okay, good idea, I think. Good idea for for for folk who don't mind public awkwardness, a risk of being reprimanded, et cetera. Fine.
00:24:05
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I can't quibble with that much. The way that they've executed it, I don't know. I think either do it well or just just wear normal clothes. You know? You can pretend to be dead on a meat shelf, but it it looks like they're sort of...
00:24:22
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dressing up a bit like a exotic dancer, but there's a bit of meat on them or something looking like meat on them. It's is a little ambiguous. And I think that's that would be our critique of just animal costumes in general. If it's not quite hitting the nail on the head, if it's a little ambiguous as to why you're doing it, it maybe loses the impact. Surely the point of using fancy dress in this way is, bam, really big impact, isn't it? So maybe an animal costume with like blood coming out of the neck or something like that would be more effective.
00:24:56
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So that people would say... A human would, you know, put a bit of red paint on yourself. Or you could just be you could just be lying on the meat counter unconscious. I i don't... ah In a sense, I wonder whether you're trying to do too many things at once. If you're dressing up as an animal and lying on top of a meat counter, don't know.
00:25:16
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It could be done well. I think you're trying to let people know that this cut up flesh was once this creature. So you're making that more obvious to them possibly. only if it's a good bit of outfit or makeup work. High quality costume. Yeah.
00:25:35
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Yeah, I mean, ah sounding really finicky here. Like I work in, i don't know, films or theatre and like, only if you use this makeup, dear, will it be effective? But I don't know. Sometimes I think looking at the examples we've had in front of us here for the show, it's clear that you can do this badly.
00:25:57
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So I think sometimes simple, if you can't get it brilliant, then maybe simple is better. So if you're going lie on a meat shelf, maybe just do it in your t-shirt and jeans. So let's talk a little bit philosophically.
00:26:11
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What do you think about veganism and Halloween or anything else? Is
Vegans Dressing as Animals for Halloween
00:26:20
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it okay for vegans to dress up like animals for Halloween? Or is there a problem there by us pretending to be animals?
00:26:32
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Is that an issue? I'm worried what's happened to Ant on my ah camera. i thought he'd passed out. Yeah. practicing lying the counter. thought laying down on the counter. Yeah. um i I should declare an interest that increasingly hate Halloween as a whole concept, and I hate the fact that it seems to have gone from more of this traditional people wearing a sheet over their heads to people dressing up basically as more like a sort of tarts and vicars kind of fancy dress thing. You can love it really, Paul. You can be honest with us.
00:27:06
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you're a sexy cat which is yeah seems even different if there's a problem more problematic maybe yeah it's just it's like yeah i think it's become an excuse for dressing up in certain ways and if you want to do it that's fine i got no problem with that but and i if someone did choose to dress as an animal i don't know like i'm trying to think what people would go for here like a werewolf or like uh i don't know like so it's not gonna get a werewolf is an animal pool just so you know it's a creature No one's ever told me this before. This is problematic. No, it's just, I suppose it's sort of, ah yeah, i don't know, like, ah I don't know. I wouldn't have any particularly strong feelings about it. I've seen cats, I've seen dogs, bears. Halloween is a huge deal at my daughter's school, and they do like a hollow week, the whole week is dress up. Wow.
00:27:54
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Yeah, she's at a performing arts school. So you you can imagine. Yeah, so I've seen like tons and tons of costumes and some a little ah things I would not let my high schooler wear.
00:28:06
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But yeah, so any lots like animals. ah well we could We could look at anything that a vegan does that could be seen as a missed opportunity for animal advocacy. So I don't necessarily think that you know if someone chooses to dress up as a dog, but they're not making a vegan point,
00:28:26
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that that's bad for animals necessarily it depends what you're doing doesn't it i would have thought for the uh excited engaged vegan animal activist then halloween would be a great opportunity to make uh political point and animal rights point um and just be like, what? I can be gruesome, it's Halloween, like get off my back, everyone else is is doing it. So yeah, I i mean, really, i think you would do well as ah as a vegan to dress up in an animal in a way that was considerably worse
00:29:03
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for animals than anyone else. So don I don't think it's something to particularly be concerned with. But I would just say, like, if you've got the opportunity to dress up, and and society is saying it's okay to do so around the end of October, then then do so in a way that improves outcomes for animals or makes people think, you know? No, I think that's great. I think everybody now has time to plan their costumes.
00:29:25
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yeah and And how they can advocate. Dress up as Colonel Sanders, for example. You know, what what could be more nightmarish than someone who is advocating for the killing and exploitation of the the animal, that the land animal that is killed billions and billions more than any other each year, you know? Yeah. Yeah, you get people dressed up as are famous murderers and there's one of the biggest ones. so Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:29:52
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Yeah. All right. Well, that's probably a good place to end it. Thank you, everyone, for listening. We'd like to hear your thoughts on animal costumes or any other topic related to animal rights or veganism. You can find us on Facebook or Instagram or email us at enoughofthefalafel at gmail.com.
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Anthony, I wanted to ask you, are we going to post the links to these, like Facebook and real and everything that we've been talking about? Yes. Okay. he's He's giving me a thumbs up. So you can go to our show notes here and you can look at these examples and form your own opinions as well.
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Thank you to Paul and Anthony for your contribution today. Anthony, when is our next episode? Well, our next episode, believe it or not, regular listeners, is going to be on Monday. That's when we talk about the vegan and animal rights news from the week. So that'll be the 1st of June. I'm not going to be there, but Shane is, Mark is, and Kate is.
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So all the vegan news ready for you to digest and think about on Monday. Anyway, that's enough of the falafel for this episode. Thanks Ant and Shane for all your contributions.
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ah Thanks again everyone for listening. I've been Paul and you've been listening to Vegan Talk from the Enough of the Falafel Collective.
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