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" Intermission " with Benjamin C. Robertson - Circuspreneur Podcast Ep.92
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On this episode of the Circuspreneur podcast, host @SheneaStiletto interviews Founder of Silver Tree Films, director and co-producer in partnership with the @lasvegascircuscenter of the circus documentary "Intermission,“ Benjamin C. Robertson.
INTERMISSION
"Intermission" is a compelling documentary that delves into the lives of artists and performers in the vibrant Las Vegas circus scene as they navigate the unprecedented challenges of the COVID-19 pandemic. Featuring intimate interviews and behind-the-scenes footage, the film captures the resilience and creativity of these performers as they confront closures, adapt to new realities, and ultimately find innovative ways to keep the spirit of the circus alive. This poignant exploration highlights both the struggles and triumphs faced by the community, offering a unique window into the impact of global crises on the world of live entertainment.
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Introduction and Support Call
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Meet Ben Robertson
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I'm your host, Sinead Siletto, and my guest on today's Circuspreneur podcast is founder of Silvertree Films and director plus producer of the circus documentary, Intermission, Ben Robertson. Welcome to the podcast, Ben.
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Ben
Hello, and thank you for having me. I'm happy to be here.
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Oh, it's a pleasure, Ben. Thank you so
Circus Life During COVID-19
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much. And for listeners, Intermission is a compelling documentary that delves into the lives of artists and performers in the vibrant Las Vegas circus scene as they navigate the unprecedented challenges of the COVID-19 pandemic. Featuring intimate interviews and behind the scenes footage, the film captures the resilience and creativity of these performers. as they confront closures, adapt to new realities and ultimately find innovative ways to keep the spirit of the circus alive. This poignant exploration highlights both the struggles and triumphs faced by the community, offering a unique window into the impact of global crisis on the world.
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of live entertainment. And I am just like really, you know, so grateful for intermission and that you produced this documentary. Ben, it is, you know, such a pleasure to talk to you and delve into the and and delve into the documentary. And, um you know, your thoughts behind intermission, why you wanted ah To create this during this time because I feel like it is such a tool For me personally and from what I see is like a tool for advocacy for this industry that someone documented Such a powerful time for all of us. I was watching it last night and you know, it was just so emotional
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And, you know, I know several of the artists and circus workers in the documentary and I've known them for years and we were all communicating throughout that time and our journeys were all like marrying each other. um And, you know, you did behind the scenes, you had a very, I think, diverse group of workers that were in Cirque shows that were also just like local circus performers, which was great because I think that's really reflective of the circus industry here that is really dynamic and really diverse and you know very unique. I think Vegas is the most unique kind of representation of circus in the world really.
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um with the demographic here that's you know um very locally based, in shows for a very long time, you know has put 20 plus years into the same show, which is again, a very unique thing um in the circus world, um even to this day of how we sustain work and you know how nomadic we are and kind of where we go.
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um And so I would love to, I think, first ask about your background, Ben, that brought you into ah producing this type of work because it's so beautifully produced. It's so well done. ah The interviews are really great. The footage that you captured. um of everyone within their personal and daily lives and in their professional life was very well edited, the tricks, skills, all of those things, you know, that all of us, you know, people like me in the circus world are looking at all those nuances, you know, that are important to us. um And then the conversations that reflected how we all felt um at different times or thinking about our close friends, our family um at that time and their struggles, which were maybe, you know, in some ways uniquely different.
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depending on where they were in the circus industry um and where they were in the world, but all of us in communication and ah you know trying to support one another. um
Ben's Filmmaking Journey
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I know that was kind of a big entry into that, but could you tell us a bit about who you are, Ben?
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Ben
Well, I'm a filmmaker primarily, so I make all kinds of different films. We are looking to do more sci-fi in the future. But strangely enough, in my journey, I've come across a lot of documentaries where I've i've started shooting documentaries and hired to film other people's documentaries.
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Oh.
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Ben
And so it's nothing that I looked for, but it's it's quite a challenge, you know, doing it. So um I've got a long background. I used to I've been doing this for a while, did this in school, was trained up and it's lived in LA for years. I used to work for Malpasso Productions, which those of you in the know, know that it's Clint Eastwood's production company. So I worked for Clint and I take a lot of, a lot of the ways that I direct, I look at Clint as an example. He looked at things completely different. He was completely in control of his cast and his crew.
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Ben
People were intimidated of him a little bit, and rightly so, because it's Glenn Eastwood. But he was quiet. he would he would He had this quiet authority about him. He wasn't yelling at the on the sets. There was no megaphone. There was no nothing like that. it's People knew what the plan was. They knew what he wanted. And he did it. And often with actors, he took very few takes. So the actors knew to bring their A game.
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That was not the case in intermission as far as the few takes go. um Because you know a lot of these, you're you've done circus for a long time and the things that you have done personally are just astounding. And I was living that with all these different artists. And so I would see people jump so high and twist and flip and do all these things that I'm like, wow, I can never do that.
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And oftentimes when I was filming, I would be filming, my primary camera was the Sony FX9. And so I'd be filming somebody and they jump right out of my frame. And I'm like, well, I guess I'm going to have to film that again. And so it was a lot of takes for many of these things. And much of it was just kind of behind the scenes. Like I was a fly on the wall and I'm getting the best shot. And then occasionally I'd have to say,
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what you just did. Can you do that again, by the way? And then again and again. And these poor circus artists, they're like, they're lifting their body weight and they're doing this amazing hold and I'm like, this defying gravity. And I'm asking them to do it like five times in a row and they're like,
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just Just give me a minute, and I gotta relax. Let the muscles relax a little bit.
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One second.
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So it was astounding to watch these people go and it was incredible and amazing.
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Yeah.
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Ben
And at the same time, it was just like I was thinking about all the technical details and you know what frame rate am I at? What do I need to be at for this? Where's my lighting coming from?
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The interviews that we did, we were able to plan those a little bit more. bring in more of a crew and bring in you know lighting and diffusion and you know do all kinds of different things.
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But some of it was very run and gun ah type filming. And so a lot of it was fun. And this this idea for Intermission, it came um from the other producer.
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i'm I'm one of the producers. The other producer, they own the Las Vegas Circus Center, which is for those that are out there, they're listening that don't know.
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Mm hmm.
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The Las Vegas Circus Center is the premier training facility for a lot of these circus artists that are in, you know, they can be children. ah They can be full fledged performers and you get the whole gamut of people in there. So typically you walk in and you see, you know, if you know who you're looking at, you see, oh,
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Ben
That's the main character in this show. And then, oh, there's a child that's learning how to do that and all kinds of different things. And so the owners of the Las Vegas Circus Center, they're the they're the producers also. And they came up with this idea. they were They
Challenges Faced by Artists
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started seeing things that were happening during COVID. Just some things that were heartbreaking. And you know these these performers that spend so many years training in and developing their discipline, just like a doctor would. And when they spend that much time as a doctor would operating on a person, but they're forming their craft and they're perfecting everything. It's just truly astounding to see. And then when COVID happened, a lot of them got deported and a lot of people had to leave the country. And for many of them that were allowed to stay, they weren't allowed to work. And they're like,
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What do we do? We we can't can't get a job. I got to find some way to live. I got to find some way to pay rent. And it was just really interesting to see how this story developed.
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You mentioned the Las Vegas Circus Center. you know Michelle and Brandt, they are so supportive. They've been very supportive of the advocacy work that I've done. um Michelle comes and joins me from meetings all the time when she's not busy because they are extraordinarily busy.
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with the Las Vegas Circus Center, but she sits in with um um members of Congress with me, um with our senators, and she provides feedback in such support and voice um in terms of what it's like to be a local circus business owner and, um you know, the epic difficulties in keeping an establishment like that open because I mean, for them to be able to have kept that open also too during the pandemic was quite something because So many circus establishments like that closed down um and weren't able to provide that same kind of safety net for the industry in different parts of the country.
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Ben
Yeah.
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And so you know there's a lot of gratitude to to the Circus Center for weathering um that storm because they had not opened that long prior to the pandemic, actually. um you know I think they had opened around 2019.
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And so for a business of that size and capacity to go through that, um At that point in time and then I think everybody was just kind of like weathering it together But it just you know It brings me back to that time and the gratitude of those that you know supported all of our journeys and you know keeping folks training um which was you know, one of the biggest things and so discussing that overall journey with them and also to speaking and trying to see how we can um pose different legislation that can support businesses like that in the future, ah you know, so that they don't have to take on these momentous pressures to keep these local circus businesses happening when you know, again, they're one of the largest suppliers of entertainment, um you know, here in Nevada, and I think that they, you know, deserve all the breaks that they should get. um You know, in terms of, you know, running a business of that size and how complicated it is to run a circus, a circus business, which we all know in this industry, it is very difficult, and it's never lost on me.
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you know, the amount of work that it takes them to be able to produce that. So it was beautiful to see that that was the backdrop of everything um throughout the documentary. You know, it was kind of like the soul, I think, of the of the documentary, then to see the circus center and a familiar space that we've all come to grow, grown grown to love, you know, as like a new, a new, a new kind of staple, I think, within the industry. Those of us that have been working in Vegas for a long time and have seen spaces kind of come and go or seem you know um or, you know, again, being able to support a new face um and new folks that are bringing so much good um into Las Vegas. um And you spoke about, you know, the fact that so many of the performers weren't able to stay, you know, in the country and then they were able to save it. And that was, again, a part of what I love that you brought all of those different aspects. um And, you know, you speaking to the fact that, you know, we are like surgeons, for example, or like doctors. And it reminds me of during that time,
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you know, people telling us all to get a job. um You know, why don't you just go work at Starbucks? Why don't you just go? And at one point we see one performer um starting to work for Domino's and deliver pizzas. And he literally became a pizza delivery guy. um And, ah you know, I remember the different, you know, back and forth I would have with folks during that time of, you know, and and it would hit them. they They would be talking about a different industry, but they didn't realize that they were actually talking about our industry when we would be having these conversations. And I just, every single point that you made throughout the documentary, I was like, that is, I remember having that, I remember having that point. I remember having you know those conversations and having those feelings.
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a feeling so um dejected of, you know, this is a career I've had since I was a little kid, um you know, that we've all dedicated so much time to. And now folks are telling us to go out and and to deliver pizzas. And some of us with no other choice than other than to be able to do that. You um had my performance partner, Pavel Wojtowski, in the documentary. And he, you know, for example, was in the middle of getting his green card. So he was one person that could not work.
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during that time but actually was able to stay um in country I for example was on the way to Dubai and had just returned from Saudi Arabia, and it was just passing through l LA San Diego, just to say hi and see family and friends for a little bit and then was on my way out of the country again when everything you know had happened and so it really just took me back um you know to that period of time and then seeing you know such legend legendary performers like Ross um you know from Mystere and you know kind of the decisions that were made throughout the documentary and throughout that time as well of you know who doesn't get to come back um and who didn't come back to this industry. and
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what was lost um throughout that time and you depicted it again so respectfully. um Then um you know careers that have you know built these shows here in Las Vegas um and have served this this community with you know with their grace and their performance and with their gifts and their skills um for so many years and the dedication, I think that you ah really showed that very well of the amount of dedication that it took to sustain um you know our type of um physicality and talents.
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and that are unique to our industry and things that I am in offices with lawmakers all the time trying to explain. And I feel like intermission really provides a picture of these conversations that I'm consistently having with folks as I provide that as the blueprint of something that should never happen again.
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to our industry in the way that it did in the way that we were all left, you know, with nothing um and with nowhere to go um and with people ultimately, you know, calling us lazy, which, you know, I was like, well, that's ironic. I've never been called lazy in my entire life. And, you know, now I have people on on a daily basis calling me lazy.
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um you know Can you speak to how that felt? you know I think relating to the performers during that time band too of just seeing their experiences and seeing their grief and not knowing where their next move was and seeing kind of like their love for their personal mediums um die for certain periods of time. i mean you know ah theoretically um and obviously we were going through a lot with everyone at that time physically but emotionally there was a lot of grief um and I feel like again you really were probably carrying the performers through a lot during that time until they made it back to the stage.
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Yeah, we saw a lot of real downcast hearts because a lot of them were not having other work, but like I said, to keep their bodies in shape and to keep their acts correct, they were still working.
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I'm sure you and everybody was still working. They just weren't getting paid for it and nobody was watching it.
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Yeah.
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So they were, everybody was doing the same things that they had been doing. And then some also found other work because they had to pay bills and and things like that. But we would we would talk to these artists and we would follow them around and we would see things that would happen. We would see them you know express doubts and they're like, well, I hope I'm going to perform. I've spent so many years of my life doing this. I hope I'm going to keep doing it. And so we would see a lot of downcast feelings and
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and people just hoping for the future. We saw a bunch of people, as they couldn't do their current show, they they tried to build up an act. And we're like, okay, maybe we can sell this act for the future. Hopefully we open in the future. So we're gonna prepare for this, because we have to keep things going. We have to keep the momentum going and we have to innovate and use this time to innovate and and do some good work. And so we saw a lot of that.
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yeah and I mean, I innovated myself you know like to the bone and during during that time. And and you know a lot of beauty came out of that time. you know So many of us got into those innovations and you know have continued to keep them. I mean, my podcast was born out of that time and ah in support of wanting to advocate for the industry. And what do you see as intermission being used as an advocacy tool, um Ben, as a voice for this industry? And then also,
A Message for Change in Circus Industry
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too, is maybe a message of how not to let this happen again, to restructure you know someone and like you that was so intimately involved in so many different dynamic experiences, right? And then also, too, getting a very deep dive into how our industry works company-wise,
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corporate wise and then kind of like boots on the ground kind of grassroots because everybody that was in the documentary had very different experiences. They weren't you know, again, just in one static role within a Cirque du Soleil show. They all wore very many different hats. And then you got to see as well just how many hats they could wear during the pandemic because look at all the things that were born from each ah performer. um You know, and I was even thinking about too how even some of the success stories that were in the documentary
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Those success stories now have also closed because some of those shows have recently closed. I mean, the last six months in Vegas, we had what five or six major shows closed down. There was mass layoffs. I was a part of that, um a show that I was going into almost my third year of.
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Love closed down. AGT Live closed down. Opium closed down. Particle Inc. has closed down. um I was at the Lost Spirits Distillery. That closed down.
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I think there was maybe even one more show that is closed down just this year. And so even I was thinking about that and watching the documentary of like,
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Ben
Yeah.
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Well, and you know, there's another and and Blue Man Group just closed down two of its prominent locations outside of Las Vegas, due to some financial constraints here. So
Personal Lives of Performers
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what is your thoughts on, yeah, and in in this documentary being a message of how this industry runs, how it's run and kind of how it how it ticks?
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Ben
Well, I think Brandon, Michelle, uh, they are such an inspiration and they wanted to, they see this on a daily basis. They see the highs and the lows and they're, uh, you know, training with people, their, their daughter is a.
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Mm hmm. and it
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You know, she's in the documentary as well. um She is growing up and and she is just the things that she is so advanced in the circus field.
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Yes.
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And she's just an inspiration just like her parents. But um they wanted to shed light on what was going on and the hurt and the pain and the all the different things that they saw these performers go through.
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um They just wanted to shed light on it. So hopefully people would see and people would put a face to these performers So often um Circus performers are in heavy makeup or heavy costumes Some of the costumes are quite amazing. I mean the seamstresses alone are just incredibly talented But then if you think this circus person is putting on this huge costume and then they're flying through the air with precision and in in one case, ah one of the ladies, she flies through the air off of a teeter board and is is so high in the air and then she lands precision just on someone's shoulders.
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while flipping through the air. And that's just one of her moves. That's one of her many moves. and And you see so many of these people that that do so much of this. And um it's just incredible to watch them do this. And and then you you think that it took so long to do this.
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Ben
And now they're like, you know, getting a job at Domino's while they're doing their training, while they're trying to do things, all these other things. And I'm i'm one for work. I always try to stay busy, you know, with this filming job or this photography assignment or anything like that. But it it brings brings the circus performer, puts a face on them. You actually see their face without makeup.
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Ben
You see them without their costume. You see the humanity behind the person. So you can go to one of these extravagant shows that are in town and we have quite a few of them and they're worth it. They're so amazing. You go to one of these shows in Las Vegas or there's there's in other states and you see these and it's unforgettable even a lot of times ah One of the, I don't know if it made it in the documentary, I don't remember, um but one of the artists that I was interviewing, he was like, hey, if you see a ah circus tent on the side of the road, go and support it.
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Support these circus artists.
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And.
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And so many times, it's it's such an incredible performance that you're never going to forget. And then this, what we wanted to do is show you who's there. Show you who's underneath that costume. Show you what's going on. and so that So the audience can feel what they feel and go through what they went through. And you can you can go through the hard times and the the triumphs, the down times and the great times.
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And there's quite a few successes in that time. There was all these beautiful things that did come out of it. And then we have, I won't spoil any surprises.
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Well, you can. But um in in in some of the um
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I kinda did.
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Ben
You know, in some of these characters, they found a couple of them got to work on some very big projects. The the largest project would be Avatar 2 and 3 with James Cameron.
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he
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I mean, who's not in awe of James Cameron?
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and g
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And especially this world he created in Avatar. And then two of the performers got to go be, you know, significant characters in those films. And it was just amazing to hear their stories.
00:23:26
Ben
to just, during this time, to just rise up and do well. and Anyway, that's that's a long answer to that, but we just wanted to, Brandon and Michelle, especially, wanted to shed a light on what they were seeing on a daily basis, seeing that everybody should should should see this story.
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and I love what you're saying too, Ben, about the humanity behind the makeup and who we really are. I've heard that most often times in my life where people are like, I've never met someone in Cirque before. I've never even heard anyone's voice.
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from certainly just never even had an interaction. And you showed, you know, the performers have families, you showed several of the performers in the in the documentary have kids. And that's one of the main things that most folks say back to me my whole life, like, well, none of you guys have kids, none of you have families, right? I mean, this is something you're gonna have to hang up when you're around, you know, like 1920. And you know, you you don't stay around for too long. And it's like, oh, no, we're going for pensions here. Like, no, we're going for 401Ks. Like, many of us have been around in these shows, you know, like, you know, these legendary performers for 20 plus years. Like, no, this is like full fulfill like full retirement, you know, that we're talking about. And, you know, and those are very important components that you covered um inside of the documentary. You know, you even had brothers, you know, in in the documentary just show like how embedded we are with, you know, a lot of families, generational families being a part of this environment. um And so, you know, how it didn't just affect one person in the family like somebody like me, but it it infected an entire family that is, you know, dependent on Cirque or circus.
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for their livelihood because the cousins, the uncles, the mom, the dad, everybody is a part of an act. Everyone has a part or participates in the circus industry. And that's again, very unique to Las Vegas. And so I think you very much showed the ripple effect um of how this industry again is shaped and how interconnected we are and how we also too, like everybody kind of knows everyone. at a certain point or in a certain kind of way and that's the other I think um emphatic thing that happened for me inside of the documentary is knowing that you know someone who knows someone that was impacted um by this um in our industry. Maybe in other industries people are so far removed from each other that you may never know not one other person could never connect it but in our industry in our world it really isn't like that. I can literally
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just talk to someone and maybe throw out a couple of names and after a little while we will find someone in common. And that's how close up that is so that I know so many intimate details about that person's own own personal life. So I really appreciate the humanity that you know was produced within the podcast that I find so You know, like I said, even in speaking with lawmakers, um you know, in Nevada, which I'm very vocal about this in the podcast, you know, when you bring up circus and you bring up Cirque, you wonder why we are not on their radars more. And um i again, I appreciate Brandon Michelle.
Loyalty and Recognition in Circus
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for being very brave in highlighting um this journey and highlighting these you know difficult conversations, especially for circus performers, because we're so loyal to our medium. I'm sure that you got that reflected a lot back then where we love this industry so much. We know how this special it is. We know how particular it is.
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And so, you know, no one, I wouldn't say not rock the boat, but you definitely, you know, being a part of, I think, a very niche environment, everyone feels very protective of it in any way, shape or form. We all wanted it to come back. We all know how much we have writing on our abilities. We all know what we don't have to fall back on.
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Like so many of us. so you know like at the the the the The stakes for us are high, but I appreciate again you know the verbiage and the language that was centered around you know bringing us to the forefront in this documentary and centering solely on us and not an afterthought. Because even though I think we are the number one source of entertainment here in Vegas,
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um you know we're not necessarily highlighted in those ways that you're discussing where there are folks within labor movements for example or like actual workers and those are the conversations i started having with brand michelle where i was like ah this is such a breath of fresh air too because you know, they're willing to call us an industry because we are an industry, we are a billion-dollar industry um and we are very creative and we are willing to do the work that it takes to come back because we know what it's like to work hard literally all the time and I've gotten that reflected back to myself many years too of like you guys are in in an industry where it's always difficult and it's always challenging so it's no surprise that you're not all figuring out a way but I also think too that it shouldn't be so hard in our industry um and you know, the impacts to our industry because of COVID-19 and the impacts that we're even feeling now, the ripple effects the last five years of things still being impacted and folks, you know, um still finding their way through the circus. How can we create um lasting change in this industry that's not just about getting your job back, which is fundamentally obviously very important for us, but how can we safeguard that opportunity, safeguard the companies in a different way that maybe we haven't done before or done in the past so that the global crisis don't affect our industry so harshly that it's something that we cannot you know fundamentally come back from. or that it's so detrimental to our overall lives or um or art forms. And that's why I care so immensely about work um like you produced with Intermission, Ben. We're getting ah down to the last minute or so of the podcast.
Gratitude and Distribution Plans
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And so, Ben, what are your last thoughts that you would like to leave listeners with about Intermission? Obviously, to want to see the documentary, to support the documentary, um all of my friends that were In the documentary, um you know I just honor all of their journeys. um I'm so grateful that they have something to look to of themselves um during that time, especially because for several of them, it was the last time they ever did certain shows, um which ah for many of us is, you know it's yeah, that's hard.
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Well, we were just happy to do it. Happy to join the journey with so many of the Cirque artists. You saw it pretty early. It just finished. And so we are looking to sell it and get it on a platform so more more people can see it. But we were just happy to be a part of the process and amazing to see these people at work.
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Thank you so much, Ben, for coming on to the podcast. I really appreciate it and I appreciate the Las Vegas Circus Center. Shout out to Brad and Michelle, always. And um you know again, grateful to the performers that were willing to be so vulnerable um and you know share their lives at that time and experience because it was a very difficult time for us all, but I am very, you know, just happy to see that so many of them are so continuing to go on. um And yeah, I'm very excited to support Intermission then and to continue to see um audiences enjoy it and be compelled by it like I was.
Closing and Platform Promotion
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And so I will close out the podcast with this circuspreneur podcast is also available on stagelink dot.com. S-T-A-G-E-L-Y-N-C.COM.
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