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Guardians of the Galaxy
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Demond Thompson of the Demond Does Podcast stops by the show for a discussion about the first Guardians of the Galaxy movie. But in true Superhero Cinephiles fashion, we also go on a number of tangents about Milestone Comics, memories of Derrick, and many more!
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Superhero Team Mishaps & Strategies
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Captain, the shot was non-damaging. Attention, idiots.
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The lunatic on top of this craft is holding a Hadron enforcer. There's a weapon of my own design. What the hell? If you don't hand over our companions now, he's going to tear your ship a new one. A very big new one. I ain't buying it. I'm giving you to the count of five. Five. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Wait, hold on. Rocket, it's me. For God's sakes, we figured it out. We're fine. Oh, hey, crew, what's going on?
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You call that figured it out? We're going to rob the guys who just beat us senseless. Oh, you want to talk about senseless? How about trying to save us by blowing us up? We were only going to blow you up if they didn't turn you over. And how on earth were they going to turn us over when you only gave them a count of five? We didn't have time to work out the minutia of the plan. This is what we get for acting altruistically. I'm grooved.
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They are ungrateful. What's important now is we get the Ravager's army to help us save Zandar. So we can give the stone to Yondu, who's just gonna sell it to somebody even worse? We'll figure that part out later. We have to stop Ronin. How? I have a plan. You've got a plan.
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Yes. First of all, you're copying me from when I said I had a plan. No, I'm not. People say that all the time. It's not that unique of a thing to say. Secondly, I don't even believe you have a plan. I have part of a plan. What percentage of a plan do you have? You don't get to ask questions after the nonsense you pulled on nowhere. I just saved Quill. We've already established that you're destroying the ship that I'm on is not saving me. When do we establish it? Like three seconds ago. I wasn't listening to her. I was thinking of something else. Oh. She's right. You don't get an opinion. What percentage?
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I don't know, 12%. 12%? That's a fake laugh. It's real! Totally fake. That is the most real, authentic, hysterical laugh of my entire life because that is not a plan. It's barely a concept. You're taking their side? I am Groot. So what is better than 11%? What the hell does that have to do with anything? Thank you, Groot. Thank you. See? Groot's the only one of you who has a clue.
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Yondu is gonna be here in two seconds. He expects to hear this big plan of ours. I need your help. I look around at us. You know what I see? Losers. I mean, like, folks who have lost stuff. And we have, man. We have, all of us. Our homes. Our families.
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Normal lives. And usually life takes more than it gives, but not today. Today it's given us something. It has given us a chance. To do what? To give a shit. For once.
Introducing Perry Constantine & Daman Thompson
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Not run away. I for one am not gonna stand by and watch as Ronan wipes out billions of innocent lives.
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McQuill, stopping Ronan. It's impossible. You're asking us to die. Yeah, I guess I am. I... Fuck.
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I have lived most my life surrounded by my enemies. I will be grateful to die among my friends. You are an honorable man, Quill. I will fight beside you. And in the end,
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See my wife and daughter again. I am old. What the hell? I don't got that long of lifespan anyway.
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Now I'm standing. You all happy? We're all standing up now. Bunch of jackasses standing in a circle. Welcome to the Superhero Cinephiles
Daman's Podcast Journey & Derek Ferguson's Influence
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podcast. I'm your host, Perry Constantine, and here with another new guest to the show, a longtime listener and a fellow podcaster, and that's Daman Thompson. Daman, how you doing today?
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I am amazing. How are you sir? I'm doing pretty good. You know, it's a little rainy out here and I'm a little, a little, little sleep deprived. It's eight o'clock in the morning out here in Japan. But other than that, I'm doing good. I got my coffee, so I'm all right. Oh my goodness. Oh. So anyway. It's a little, little keeping up.
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No, actually she's, you know, she's almost, I think she's about like five or six months now. And she's actually doing pretty well about sleeping mostly through the night. But even when she was a newborn, like she didn't really wake up all that much, like maybe like two or three times and that was it. So she's a pretty good kid. We don't have too many problems with her. That's awesome.
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Yeah, the hard thing is getting her to actually go to sleep. That's the thing she doesn't want to do. Like last night, we're getting to like 11 o'clock at night and she just did not want to sleep. Like, y'all are going to do something when I go to sleep. I can't guess this. Yeah, yeah. She always thinks we're up to shenanigans while she's asleep. Anyway, so why don't you take a few minutes and tell the listeners and the viewers on YouTube a little bit about yourself. Well,
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My name is Damon Thompson. I am a podcaster. I'm a father of two. I'm a husband of one. I host, Damon does the six questions. Well, it's actually Damon does, but Damon does the six questions as the bulk of it, where it's an interview show where I ask all my guests the same six questions. And it's interesting how,
00:08:28
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the store, everybody, everyone's stories is unique. So there are all kinds of tangents that can happen. And I've had some really interesting conversations with creatives. You know, I interviewed Derek, like actually, I don't know if he ever knew this. I don't think I ever told him, but the day I interviewed him was my birthday. Oh, really? Yeah. It just, it just happened in fall of life. It was like, yeah, I'll be up. You know, it gave me a couple of days. It gave me like a timeframe. I'm like, you know what? I'm gonna get myself a birthday present.
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so I just so I scared him I never told him but yeah it was that was that was really cool that was really cool that was uh yeah so that that's how we actually came to meet is uh is through Derek because um you had him on on your show and and yeah he told me about that and I listened to the show which was uh which was a great interview as well um and uh and he and when I talked to him afterwards he said he's like yeah I'm amazed he was able to cut it down so short because we went on for like three hours
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Which is always how it goes with Derek. Like you go in thinking you're gonna have like a 20 minute conversation and the next thing you know, three hours have gone by. And this is the best kind. Just, man, yeah. It was so much fun. Yeah. How did you and Derek come to meet in the first place?
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Well, this is a really, really boring story, to be honest. I emailed him. The short version is I emailed him and he emailed me back. That was it. I just asked him, hey, I'm a fan, you know, I'm a fan. And this is my show. This is what I do. And, you know, I was surprised. I was surprised the answer, to be honest.
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Oh, yeah, he's really good about answering stuff like that. He was always really good about that. So how did you end up becoming a fan of his? Was it the Dylan stuff? Was it something else that you read of his?
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I'm trying to remember because actually I've read a lot of your stuff too. Oh, really? Okay. I was a big fan. I want to say it's myth hunter. Yeah, yeah, that it I mean thunder was good. I liked in infernum. I think I was one of the few people that liked it. Yeah, I think you're one of the you're one of the few people actually read it actually.
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So I can't remember if I how have because you two are kind of intertwined in my mind. So I can't remember who I met first. But I remember it had to be Dylan. I guess I think it was through new pulp is what it was. So OK. Yeah. And I was like, oh, my gosh, a black bulb character. Yes, please. Yeah. So I found I read Dylan and the eye of the eye of Odin or
00:11:02
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The voice of Odin. Voice of Odin, thank you. And the Eye of Odin was a sequel he never got to. Gotcha. And I read that and I blew right through it. And then I just start, you know, I think I've read everything he's that that he's put out except except for maybe one. I'm in the middle of that now. So I'm just.
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And then I found some interviews and I think I was thinking about doing some writing at the time and you were doing a, it was exploding typewriter, right? Yeah, yeah.
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And so that's how, I think that's how I found you. And then- Oh, really? Okay. I believe so. I believe that's how it happened. Oh, wow. That's a blast from the past. Another thing that nobody paid much attention to. That's good. That's good. Yeah. Oh, wow. I didn't really, I never realized that you had, I thought you only knew me basically through this show and through Derek. So I had never known that you had had such knowledge of my stuff. So that's really cool.
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Yeah, good. It was good. It's good stuff, man. Well, thank you. I really enjoyed it. Actually, I'm hoping because, you know, you've seen me on Facebook posting up artwork and stuff like that. My goal is to eventually do a Myth Hunter comic book. That's yeah. So that's what I'm hoping to do. And because that's what that was what the original idea was. It was to do it as a comic book. Actually, Derek and I kind of came up with the with it together, actually.
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Like I came up with most of it and then he like kind of workshopped it with me and like, you know, like the whole thing with her using the ancient weapons and stuff. Like that was Derek's idea. That was something he contributed. And a lot of stuff about like Asami's appearance and all that, that all came from Derek too. Like he had these ideas about, he's like, you should do this, this, and then. And so yeah, a lot of that's, there's a lot of his DNA and most of my stuff actually.
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That's absolutely not surprising at all. But anyway, so we were looking, cause I was running a little bit behind so I didn't get the chance to really check up on any news.
Milestone Comics Relaunch Discussion
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But you mentioned you got something that you'd heard about and that was the milestone relaunch. So can you talk a little bit about that?
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I am excited. I probably should have looked up an article while I was sitting there talking to you as a math practice. I may do that while maybe not. Anyway, milestone media. Okay. Most people would probably know a milestone through the static shot cartoon. Right. And static was the Spider-Man-ish archetype of the, you know, he was the teenager and all that stuff.
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but it was actually a very in-depth, it was a very, it was a much bigger company milestone was.
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So the comics that are coming out, I believe they're coming out. We just discussed this. July, I want to say July 13th will be static one. I believe they're doing six issue arcs. So it'll be static will debut on July 13th.
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than July 27th, it'll be Icon and Rocket, which was an interesting story because a lot of people would see it on its surface like, oh, it's black Superman. Yeah, but it was Superman as a black...
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black man, but a black Republican, which is an, which was an interesting juxtaposition between him and Rocket, who was a psychic and was really her book. And they, they tackled some interest. They said they were really progressive for now then. Yeah. Yeah.
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And that was just wanted to name drop the founders here. It was Dwayne McDuffie, Dennis Cohen, Michael Davis, and Derek T. Dingle. And McDuffie, most people know him because he went on to work on the Justice League animated series and then the Justice League comic books as well after that.
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Right, right. Yeah, he passed away. It's been, I want to say like 10 years or so, but I'm not sure exactly. Something like that. Yeah, it's been a while. I know it's been some time. Wow. Oh, yeah, I got just lifted up. Yeah, 20, almost 10 years ago, exactly. 21 February 21 2011 is when he passed away.
00:15:30
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Wow, wow, dang, it just flies by. Yeah, yeah. I came to his stuff after he passed because everyone was talking him up and I had read his Justice League run, which apparently had a lot of editorial interference when he was doing the comics and there were characters he wanted to use that he couldn't use and all.
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and because of like stuff going on in the different character books. So like he had a lot of stuff like kind of force, but he really, it doesn't show in the writing. Like it's, he was one of those people who was really able to work with what he was given. Man, I want to say he was the writer on Icon at the beginning of its run. I know I have all that information from him, but I'm pretty sure that's the one he wrote.
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Then the last one is hardware, which would be, you know, the Iron Man archetype. And I don't know what they'll do with, it's not that big of a spoiler. Well, it's a spoiler for, you know, 20 year old book or whatever. You know, hardware was, oh gosh, I can't think of his, I can't think of his secret idea. Curtis Metcalf. Thank you, thank you.
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He was a gifted prodigy, science genius. His benefactor is named Alva. And he was his mentor. He raised him up. And he's basically second in charge in the company. And then he finds out that he is not as important as he thinks he is. Oh, OK.
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decides to use the resources at his disposal to wreak havoc. And it was just a really interesting twist on, you know, cause Tony Stark's on top of, on top of everything and everybody's trying to knock him down. And he's, I don't know, it was just, it was really, it's a really cool book. I don't know if they're going to go with that obviously, cause they're, they're updating statics origin. Cause he was in a, there was a gang fight, which was, which is where the big bang.
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where everybody got their powers. I think it's gonna, he will be at a Black Lives Matter protest. Oh, okay. So I think that was, you answered a question I was gonna ask if they're gonna go like, if it was gonna be like a relaunch type thing or if it was gonna be a full on reboot like the, like Valiant did a few years back. So it sounds like they're doing the full on reboot.
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Yeah, that's what it's looking like. I haven't heard anything else from anything different. That'll be different from the other comics. That's the only one I know of right now.
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And you were talking about the writer of Icon. It looks like it was McDuffie. In fact, at least according to Wikipedia, it looks like he wrote most of these, at least the original ones that came out, like, so it's hardware, blood, syndicate, icon, static. He seemed to have written most of those. And you know, I think other writers came in after but he, he seemed to have been like, you know, one of the main creators in all of them at least. Okay.
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But he was listed as the only writer on ICON. So I'm pretty sure like he just wrote that all himself. I could be wrong about that. Like we were talking before we started recording, I came into comics like after milestone had kind of faded away. So I had missed that whole boat. When I first got into comics, I was working in a comic book store and I don't remember any milestone books at all there with the new releases. So I think they had faded by that point.
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That was like the late 90s early 2000 so. And then, but I've always been curious because, you know, especially after after Dwayne McDuffie died everyone was talking about, you know, the milestone books like Sean Ali loves those and you mentioned them a lot and.
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I was always curious, check them out. Like I'd never watched static or anything like that, but I'm always curious. And I remember Icon and Rocket were on Young Justice. Icon was part of the Justice League and Rocket became a member of the Young Justice team. And so probably just similar, like you said, with the book, Icon was just kind of like there. He wasn't really a big presence. And it was mostly Rocket we touched on in the TV show. And she was a cool character. And I thought that was neat to bring her in that way.
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I'm wondering how they're going to do the milestone stuff because I know obviously when they did Young Justice, they were part of the Justice League and they're part of the DCU. And I think when they did New 52, static was also part of the DC Universe at that point, too. So do you know if they're bringing them back in the DC Universe or if they're going to have them in their own universe again?
00:20:20
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From what I have read or not, I haven't read anything from officials. So it's, these are from YouTube channels. So I take that for a grain of salt. I came, Magneegro, I think is his name is, Blood Without Fear, maybe. It's one of those two. And they said that it's going to be its own thing. So it can be disconnected from, there won't be any crossover. There are no plans for any crossovers or anything like that.
00:20:47
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I mean, that's good. I think I think it would probably work better in its own universe anyway, because then you're going to have like, you know, those types of characters, I think they work much better in their own universe anyway, because it's not as impressive to have like a character of icon in a world where you've got like, you know, Superman and all these other meta humans as well. Because I think that was one of the things about it was like it was this
00:21:09
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it was this new thing within that world as well. Right. And how everything is tied into it. There's politics involved in a whole deal. Yeah.
'Guardians of the Galaxy' Movie Experience
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Yeah. Yeah. And since I miss those milestone books, they don't have any collections in print. I'm hoping that now that they're doing this reboot, they'll also go back and collect those older issues too.
00:21:36
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Assuming that it relaunched as well, I would have seen so.
00:21:41
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Well, yeah, all right. So we'll have to keep an eye out for that. So yeah, thanks for bringing that. But anyway, today's movie that you chose you wanted to talk about today is the original Guardians of the Galaxy, the first one. Derek and I talked about volume two way back when. And it was funny, when you told me that you wanted to talk about Guardians of the Galaxy, I had actually just watched it like a few days before with my wife. Like just randomly, she was like, I want to watch Guardians of the Galaxy.
00:22:10
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Nice. So the timing couldn't have been better on that. You're welcome. All right. So were you familiar with the Guardians before the movie or did you just come into these characters through the movie? I was familiar with a different version of the Guardians of the Galaxy. Oh, so the original one, yeah.
00:22:32
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Vance Astro and Starhawk and Yondu was a, oh boy, wow. Very different from, yeah. Very different. We'll just leave it at that. Yeah. So that's the team I was familiar with. So when I saw the, you know, I saw the titles like, oh, that's interesting. Let's see how they do that. And then I saw the talking, when I saw Rocket before I had seen the movie, I was like,
00:22:57
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OK, Marvel's Jump the Shark, you know, it's fine, whatever. And we'll just look. I saw I was so long story short, I was not familiar with any of the I had known of Daxter's Destroyer and Gamora because of I want to say they had a bigger part in the Infinity Infinity Gauntlet series. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, they were they were those they were part of Jim Starlin's whole whole cosmic universe type thing that he had set up. So it was like Drax, Gamora.
00:23:25
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Thanos and all and all of that was tied in together when I was doing like the Captain Marvel and then later the infinity stuff. Gotcha. Okay. So I was familiar with them, but I wasn't familiar with Star Lord or Rocket Raccoon or Groot or anything like that. So
00:23:41
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I had read because this Guardians is based on, like I had known of the original ones, but I'd never really read any of the stuff they'd been in. Not until later when they had published, I remember they published a Guardians 3000 series after the movie came out where they were
00:23:58
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but they went back to the original team too. But this team, the movie, it was based on Dan Ammit and Andy Lanning. They did this whole cosmic event called Annihilation back in the early 2000s. And they kind of, at the end of that, they rebooted a lot of Marvel's cosmic characters, not rebooted, but like gave new attention to them like Silver Surfer, Super Scrawl and Nova and all these.
00:24:26
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spinning out of that event was Guardians of the Galaxy. So they had completely given Drax because Drax used to be like a Superman type. He was like incredibly powerful, if you remember. And but he wasn't very intelligent. He had like very low intelligence. And then during the annihilation, they kind of they flipped that on its head where they gave him more intelligence, but they reduced his powers that now he's just basically got the superhuman strength and
00:24:54
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So that, they came out with this Guardians of the Galaxy series and it had all those five plus like a bunch of other characters. Like it had the Philevel, Captain Marvel's daughter. They had Mantis was part of the original team as well. I think Adam Warlock was there as well for a bit too.
00:25:14
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And a bunch of other characters came in and out. So I had read that. And when I saw that they were, because this came out, they announced this after Avengers. And it, I wasn't, I wasn't expecting, I didn't think that Marvel jumped the shark. Cause I loved the idea of Rocket Raccoon. And like that was one of the reasons I even looked into the original Guardians of the Galaxy comic book in the first place was because of Rocket. So when I heard they were going to do this, I thought,
00:25:41
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Okay, that sounds cool, but I don't know why they're doing that. Because it just seemed like such, it came completely out of left fields. Like we did, we hit it big with Avengers and now we're gonna do this little known property that nobody but like hardcore Marvel fans know about.
00:26:02
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Right. So my wife was, my wife does childcare and one of the kids she was hanging out with, she, they went and saw Guardians of the Galaxy. I had no intention on seeing it. And she comes home and she said, she sits me down and she says, what, it's like, you gotta go see Guardians of the Galaxy, like absolutely not. She looks at me in the face and she never said this before or since she said,
00:26:32
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go see it, cause if you don't like it, I will be disappointed. Meaning, she liked it that much. So I'm like, okay, you put it all on the line. So I went and saw it and honestly, I think I saw every Marvel, I hadn't seen any of the Marvel movies at the theater at that point, yeah, except for maybe Avengers and that was it.
00:26:56
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And after Guardians of the Galaxy, we were at every single one after that. It's a brilliant game. Sorry, go ahead. So it just turned the corner. It was instead of jumping the shark, it turned the corner. I was in, I was in.
00:27:14
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So for me, I had, I was really looking forward to it, especially when when the trailers came out and especially when I heard that when they when they announced that Bradley Cooper was going to be voicing rocket I thought that was a, that was a really cool choice because that was a during a time when he was like really kind of blowing up like he
00:27:30
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He was just coming off like the hangover and A-Team and I think Limitless as well came out around that time too. So like all this stuff that he was in it was coming out at that time. And that was when he was like the big A-list actor. So I was really surprised that they got him. And also Vin Diesel to just come in and record three lines basically over and over again.
00:27:51
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That was also, I thought, was a really interesting choice that they did. And that seems like a total James Gunn thing to do, which is get like a big name actor to just come in and just record random lines and not have his face shown, which he's doing again with Stallone in Suicide Squad now.
00:28:11
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Yeah, because he's doing King Shark. And it looks like he's not gonna have like a whole lot of speaking lines. So, but, and so I was really looking forward to it.
Chris Pratt's Star-Lord & Music's Role
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And I actually didn't know anything about Chris Pratt before this movie. And I went to see it with a friend of mine. I was back in Chicago visiting some family and one of my old friends,
00:28:37
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She's like, oh, let's go out to a movie tonight. And I said, OK, well, I really want to see Guardians of the Galaxy. And she's like, really? Do we have to see that? I'm like, trust me. If you don't like it, I'll give you your money back, OK? And she's like, all right, fine. So we go see it. And afterwards, she's like, that was so good. I want to go see it again.
00:28:56
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So much so that when volume two came out, I had actually, it was actually also when I was coming back to the States and like, as soon as I, and like a week before I was coming back to the States, she sends me a message and she's like, she's like, so you're coming back on this state, Guardians of the Galaxy comes out in this state, we're going to see it. I'm like. That's awesome. And also my wife, she, when we first started dating, she was like, she's like, oh, I don't like superhero movies.
00:29:23
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And I'm like, okay, this is, I'm not sure how this relationship is gonna go. But then she's over it one night and I said, I'm like, well, let's watch a movie. And she's like, okay. And so I'm like, and I put on Guardians of the Galaxy. And so we go, we start watching Guardians of the Galaxy and she's like, oh, that was really good. I really liked that. Then she's like, and he's like, there's another one. I'm like, yeah. And she's like, okay, let's see the next one. And so then after that, that was her gateway drug. I got her into the MCU after that. And so now she loves all of them too.
00:29:53
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Nice. One of the things that I, one of the things that I loved about this movie was the way it used uses music. Yes. It and because I don't I genuinely honestly do not notice those types of things unless something's like really off. It's just the same on the same way. Yeah. But like, it was one of those things where it would just
00:30:19
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It felt like they wrote some of these scenes to this music. You know what I mean? It all fits so well together. I couldn't sing this phrase enough. That was one of the biggest things for us. The choice of music was just amazing. The soundtrack came out a few months before the movie.
00:30:41
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And man, it was just such an awesome selection of songs. And when it said volume one on it, I kept hoping, I'm like, are they gonna have like a volume two album? Because I wanted to see more of it. And it's just like James Gunn's own personal playlist. And it's just such a cool concept that really works for Peter's character. He's got this tape that was with him when he got abducted. So it makes sense that he would have all this older music as well.
00:31:07
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Right, right, it just fits right, it all fit right in, yeah. It was something I was gonna ask, I can't remember what it was, nevermind. Well, about the music, like, I think especially in volume two, I thought the music, I think the music selection in volume one was better, but I thought in volume two, the music, like you were saying, when they wrote some of the scenes specifically around those songs, I think there's a lot more of that in volume two as well, like the whole thing with Fleetwood, Max the Chain, the whole thing with Brandy and all that, like,
00:31:36
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I think James Gunn had kind of that idea when he was doing it, but not all of them fit together as well in the first one as much as in the second one. Like, you know, when he's doing, like hooked on a feeling when he's being tortured in the prison cell. It's just, it's such an incongruous thing, but it works so well.
00:31:58
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or also the Margarita song. Like, you know, he's flying over the prison as Pina, if you like Pina Colada's playing in the background. What? Oh man. I can't remember what I was gonna say.
00:32:15
Speaker
But this movie actually made me want to go back and look up Parks and Rec because the friend I had seen it with, she was a huge Parks and Rec fan. And after this, she's like, have you seen Parks and Rec? You have to watch Parks and Rec. And so I, you know, stuck through the terrible first season just because of Chris Pratt's. I'm like, because everyone's like, oh, it gets better, it gets better. And then after that, it did get much better. So I'm glad. But if it wasn't for this movie, I may not have stuck through it.
00:32:41
Speaker
I did the exact same thing, actually. It's funny that you'd say that. I literally did the exact same thing because I had seen the movie. We had some missionaries over and they had got, we were talking about movies and comedy and stuff. And they mentioned, I was like, have you seen Park, because I have a little, I've raised a sense of humor. And it was like, have you seen Parks and Rec? I'm like, no. And he's like, give it three episodes. Just give it three episodes. And I did, I'm like, okay. Like, yeah, like I was in and I was like, oh, that's the,
00:33:11
Speaker
That's where he's from. And then when he was a little more doughy, he was more normal back then as far as his physique goes. Yeah, yeah. I remember him talking about, I remember there was a big thing on social media about the fact that how ripped he was in the Guardians trailer and compared to how he was in the TV show. And I remember him doing an interview or something and he was asked about the workout regime. And they're asking like, well, what's it entail? And one of the things you said was like a lot of crying.
00:33:41
Speaker
That poor guy. Yeah. But they they got to be that lean. You got to. Mm hmm. Yeah. Yeah. But it's it's funny when you think about this movie, because the characters in this movie are very with the exception of Rocket, probably. I think Rocket is probably the close rocket and grew to probably the closest to their comic book equivalents. But the characters, though, they're they're very they're almost like original characters compared to how they are in the comics.
00:34:10
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I mean, so I- Interesting, I didn't. Yeah, because, which I think it works better. Like Drax is, he's not as, you know, what's the right word I want to look for? He's not stupid, but he's not aware in the movie, right? That's kind of like, he's got, he like lacks this awareness of kind of what's going on. And like, he's not like that in the comic books. He's much more
00:34:38
Speaker
calculating, and he's still got that like, you know, hard exterior, but it's much more like a kind of like calculating intelligence. Gamora too, right? She's much more of like the standard stock warrior princess type character. And Star-Lord is also, you know, he was just, you know, standard, you know, space opera superhero, wasn't anything, their personalities didn't really stand out that much in the comic books. And so
00:35:01
Speaker
I understand why they made the changes they did because it makes these characters come alive so much more in the movie. And now they've done that in the comic books too. They kind of changed their personalities, much like they did with, they did kind of a similar thing with Tony Stark, I think, right? Because in the comic books, he's not as eccentric as Robert Downey Jr. is in the movies. And then after the movies became so big, they started to adopt those things into the comics.
00:35:28
Speaker
Right. Do you know of any other changes that they, well, I don't want to say changes, but.
00:35:35
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influences like that, because I was aware of the Guardians, that was to happen to be one of the bigger ones, which made me think maybe that's why they're not as popular as a, they're not as popular characters, so you can kind of mess with it a little bit. I think so, yeah. Because I remember when X-Men came out, everybody and their mother was like,
00:36:02
Speaker
Got some guests popping up in the background there. You want to say hi to Mr. Hey. Go ahead and say hi. Hey. Oh, you got Thor there. Nice. Love you. Adorable.
Charming Interruptions & Marvel Casting Insights
00:36:32
Speaker
They're the best, man. They're the best. We used to have, my daughter popped up a few times on here. Cause there were a lot of times when I was doing the show in the morning and with Derek and she was, and I was watching her. So I'd like be held on screen while we're doing the podcast. I loved her reaction to Zack Snyder. That was my favorite. I was like, yes, she's going to be okay. She's going to be okay.
00:36:59
Speaker
That happened on, we were doing the, we were guests on the pop DNA podcast, and we had, somehow we got on Zack Sider and I was, I was watching her too during that time. Same thing, like as soon as Zack Sider comes up, she starts crying. And Derek's, oh, there we go again. Buddy, no, you can't. I'll see you in a bit, okay? And it's plastic.
00:37:30
Speaker
Derek's reaction to that was the best of when she started crying. He's like, oh, sweetie, I'm sorry. Uncle Derek won't talk about Zack Snyder anymore. It's okay. Loved it. Yeah. But as for other changes, yeah, but I think you're right. I think it was because these characters weren't as well known that they felt they had more freedom to kind of mess with it because
00:37:56
Speaker
And that's paid off for Marvel in different ways. They found good ways to work around that. Like some of these characters, they are able to mess around with them, like with Iron Man. He's not like Spider-Man level popularity. So you can mess with this personality a little bit. And like, because not as many people are reading the Iron Man comics anyway. Right, right.
00:38:19
Speaker
And that was them taking a big huge chance on like a B or C less character. Anyway. Yeah, it was. It was. Yeah. And and that's why it's it's really it's it's it shows like how it's a testament to Marvel's the strength of the talent. They get involved in these because I remember when they were talking about
00:38:40
Speaker
Because I remember, just like you, a lot of people had that reaction. It's like, oh, Guardians of the Galaxy? Marvel's jumped the shark. And then you couldn't swing a dead cat on the internet without hitting at least 10 articles talking about how Guardians of the Galaxy means that Marvel is going to fail, or it's going to be Marvel's first big failure. And then the same thing with that man, too. It was the same thing. All these articles predicting Marvel's first big flop.
00:39:07
Speaker
and also Captain Marvel, and now with Eternals too, and Shang-Chi, like you're seeing a lot of those same types of things popping up. And each time, Marvel's been proven them wrong, so. There'll be one eventually, but...
00:39:22
Speaker
Not in the foreseeable future, man. I mean, I think the closest thing I could think of is the Inhumans TV series. And that wasn't even Marvel Studios. That was the television division. But yeah, that was probably the one thing that was like universally reviled. The one thing I'm really curious about, Tange of Time, is how they're going to handle
00:39:49
Speaker
the X-Men and the MCU because that was the wing of Marvel that I was really into because it spoke to me, you know what I mean? And they didn't interact too much with the rest of the universe. It was like its own main thing for the most part. So I wonder, like, you know, any ideas or what do you think about how they're gonna integrate all that?
00:40:15
Speaker
So I had a theory about this and I had mentioned this way back when we talked about the first X-Men movie. But so my theory is that because, and we kind of saw, I think I'm feeling even more invested in this theory after some of the other stuff that's come out since then. But like, because Wanda and Pietro, they got their powers from the Mind Stone, right? Because of Stalker's experiments with it.
00:40:45
Speaker
And then, so my theory is that the Mind Stone didn't give them powers, but it kind of jump started their evolution. So like mutants have existed in history, but it's just like such a very, very, very small portion of the population. Like you're talking like one in a million type thing. And so I think you can do that. And that explains how you have characters like, you know, like apocalypse or
00:41:10
Speaker
Wolverine and Sabertooth or even like even Professor X and Magneto who have been around all this time but nobody knows about them.
00:41:18
Speaker
And so what I think is, because in Endgame, Rocket said that when Thanos snapped his fingers, Earth became ground zero for a surge of energy that has never been seen before. And so there were a total of three snaps on Earth, right? So you had Thanos, and then you had Hulk when he brought everybody back, and then Tony when he got rid of Thanos' army.
00:41:45
Speaker
So all three of those snaps, right? The Earth is just like flooded with all this cosmic energy and from the infinity stone. And we kind of saw hints of this in WandaVision when she comes in contact with the mind stone and that's when she gets her powers. So my theory is that the energy that's been floating around the planet now has kind of jump-started human evolution. So whereas before mutants were like one in one million, now you're talking like one in a hundred or something like that.
00:42:16
Speaker
And so my theory has been that you have, at least this is how I would do it, right? Because, and now in Jonathan Hickman's X-Men stuff he's doing in the comics, he had Xavier and Magneto use Krakoa as like a mutant nation. And because Krakoa is a sentient island, it can
00:42:34
Speaker
move to different parts of the planet so it can keep moving around. It's not stationary in one spot. And so my theory is, at least how I would do it is I would say that the mutants have been around for a while, but only in very small numbers. Xavier and Magneto have been gathering them together on Prokoa, whatever ones he can find, maybe with help from Nick Fury too. Like, you know, he's just kind of like, look, I'll help you out. You keep your people under control type of thing. And then
00:43:01
Speaker
After the the infinity stones right after the blink the blip and all that you know yet all these mutants who get you know just completely wiped out and then and then come back and so.
00:43:12
Speaker
and all these new mutants coming up and now they're facing prejudice, right? Now that they're, and especially you tie it into Thanos because everybody's suspicious of these people who get their powers because of the infinity stones, which would really help to build up the prejudice angle. And so you can find all that together and then you can have, that's a really easy way to see the divide between Xavier and Magneto. And so you can have like the X-Men already established and now they're coming out into the public view. At least that's how I would do it.
00:43:42
Speaker
a way that's organic with what's been set up so far, as opposed to just, oh, everybody comes in from another universe, like some people have been saying. Okay, so Kevin Feige, if you're listening, you happen to be listening. Ah, man, Mr. Constantine needs a job. Yes, please. Give it to him.
00:44:12
Speaker
You heard the man. You heard. And I work for cheap. I work for cheap. I'm not going to work for James Gunn money, so don't worry about that. I'll sell you stuff for sure. I'm your agent. I get my 10%. Hold on. No, that's brilliant. I love it. I hope it's somewhere close. I'll be kind of disappointed if it's anything. Yeah, like I've been thinking about this way too much, like because like you, I'm such a huge X-Men fan. So I always been
00:44:38
Speaker
I've been batting this over my head for the past few years since Marvel announced that they bought out the Fox stuff.
00:44:48
Speaker
But anyway, back to Guardians of the Galaxy. I think, because when we had the MCU movies up to this point, like they had some humor in there, especially Avengers really kind of jump-started the humor, but Guardians of the Galaxy took it to like another level with the humor. But they do it in such a way that, so it's really funny, but it's still, the humor is so rooted in these characterizations and like,
00:45:17
Speaker
And just like that one scene that really stood out to me was the scene on nowhere when Drax and Rocket get into the fight. And it's such a funny scene, but it's also, it tells you so much about these two different characters too.
00:45:36
Speaker
And they do it in like, and they can, and they did it in like, I mean, they did it throughout the scene, but they do it in like four lines. He's like, he has no respect. That is true. He also doesn't know what he's talking about. That is also true. Like those four lines like say so much about those two. It was, yeah, absolutely right.
00:45:56
Speaker
Yeah. And also just like Rocket's inferiority complex kind of is the best way to put it. Like he's, cause you know, he's saying, he's like, you know, he thinks I'm some stupid thing. He does. And you can tell he's, he's kind of slurring his speech. You can tell he's kind of drunk and you realize, and just like, you know, like you said, and just these short little lines, it tells you so much about that character.
00:46:16
Speaker
Right. And it makes him finally, you, you, you, you like him at first cause he's, he kind of does what he wants. He's, he's competent and all that. Then you, but then right then you feel for him. You're like, wow. Okay. Cause you don't think about cause he's, you know, he's, he's human like, and then you, then you, then you, then he says that and it just sits as like, wait a minute, you know, like, what would that feel like? You know, it just made you feel for him. And it's one of the first times you really do that for him. But yeah. Yeah.
00:46:46
Speaker
And similarly with Drax, like his whole, you feel for him a lot too, like, but he's also got this, like Dave Bautista, like I had never expected him to be such a standout actor in this movie. Because, you know, usually when you get wrestlers as actors, it's a mixed bag, right? Every now and then you get a Dwayne Johnson, but most of the time you get a Hulk Hogan, so.
00:47:13
Speaker
Correct. So, but to see him in this, like he's, you know, it seemed like how good of an actor he is and just like the way he works in this humor, but, and the fact that he's not in on the joke the whole time is just so
Character Depth: Drax & Yondu
00:47:26
Speaker
great. Like the whole thing about, you know, he doesn't understand metaphors and he's like, and they'll go right over his head. He's like, nothing goes over my head. I'll, I'll catch it. Yeah. I like how he takes nothing literally just makes it so much easier for, for, for those types of things.
00:47:41
Speaker
And also the scene at the end too, when they're talking about, you know, if you commit any further crimes, you know, you'll be in trouble again. And Drax is like, what if somebody does something irksome and I rip his spine out? And they're like, that's murder. That's like the worst crime you could do.
00:47:59
Speaker
And his response is like, oh, okay. I just want something. Okay, cool. Also, Rocket tried to have this polite conversation about stealing stuff. He's like, you don't understand, sir. I want it more. I want it more, sir. Like, he's earnest. Yeah. I want it more, sir. I loved it. That was that. So it's nice to know that I wasn't the only person who had a crush on Alyssa Milano. Oh, yeah.
00:48:29
Speaker
I didn't catch that the first time. I did not catch that reference the first time. And then it was the second time. I'm like, oh, I get it now. Right. My wife and I were just talking about this because I was watching it again for today. And it was weird to see Glenn close.
00:48:53
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. This is, and it's so cool because this is also, I can't remember, I think this came out before Winter Soldier.
00:49:04
Speaker
but it's kind of cool, like they had like all these, Marvel's got this talent for getting this ability to bring in these like, you know, really, you know, high caliber actors, but in these relatively small roles, like, you know, you had, it really kind of started with Anthony Hopkins, right? You had him in Thor playing Odin and then, and you know, in Captain America, you get Tommy Lee Jones come in and then,
00:49:32
Speaker
And then also in Thor, you had Stellan Skarsgard. And then in, I don't think there's anyone really in Avengers, but then, oh yeah, yeah. What's his name? Powers Booth was in, he was one of the, part of the council. Yes, yeah, yeah.
00:49:50
Speaker
And then you bring in Glenn Close in Guardians of the Galaxy and Robert Redford in The Winter Soldier. And just like, it's really cool how they're able to get these actors to come in and just do these like small little parts.
00:50:04
Speaker
And you couldn't there's you if you had told me that when, you know, the Michael Keaton Batman came out, that, you know, somebody like Glenn Close and sir, you know, somebody like that or Robert Redford in a superhero movie, you know what I mean? Like, really now.
00:50:20
Speaker
And in a small bit, they won't even be the star. Well, Derek, I've been relistening to a lot of the old episodes because I mentioned I'm trying to compile like notes for stuff for like a Derek episode, Derek centric episode. And one of the things he mentioned we were talking about first Avenger was, you know, you get actors like like like Tommy Lee Jones or Robert Redford and they bring a they bring a gravitas to these movies and it makes that it elevates the whole thing that just the fact just their presence alone elevates it.
00:50:52
Speaker
That's a, that's a good point. Yeah. And, and I think, I think that's really true. And it's, and, you know, she's such a, she's got such a funny part of this too. Like, you know, she's such a great actress, but like, but when she's talking to like the, the Korean ambassador or whatever, and then when she shuts off the, when the feed cuts and she's like prick. Yeah, man.
00:51:16
Speaker
There was something, I remember we were talking about music earlier and I remember what it was now. The soundtrack was number one on the billboard and it was the first soundtrack to do without any original music. Oh, wow. I knew there was something else I was trying to remember about the music, that was it. Yeah, and just like that music right from the first scene, right? That first scene is, it's a textbook example on how to set the tone of a movie.
00:51:42
Speaker
Right? Because you drop him on Morag. It's got this ominous background music. You got this sci-fi hero with his spaceship and his space gear. And he's walking through. He's exploring everything. He takes off his mask. He puts on the headphone. He starts dancing to Redbone. It's just so perfect.
00:52:06
Speaker
And then I love the callback in Endgame. I was about to mention that too. Yeah. They showed the whole scene and how terrible he was dancing. I watched it again. I laughed harder this time knowing that everything that they actually put in Guardians of the Galaxy is all the good stuff. The rest of it's all
00:52:29
Speaker
But it's such a great scene because then you have that scene where, where Rody's looking at Nebby on these, just like, so he's an idiot, huh? And Nebby's just kind of like, yeah.
00:52:39
Speaker
Another thing I love about Star-Lord is he is childish, he's, you know, and all that, but he's really clever and he's really quick on his feet. You know, everybody calls him dumb and all that and he's, he doesn't think too far ahead, but when it comes down to like putting an intricate plan together with, you know, on the fly, well, I'm sorry, he's a, he's a very quick thinker. Like- He's an, he's an imporiser. Yeah. Yeah. That's it. That's what those, that's exactly-
00:53:07
Speaker
This is why I'm the writer. But yeah, the way he just looks like, let's do this and we'll do that, that, that, that, you know, fly by to see the pants and like the, you know, the dance office, like, well, if I can distract them just long enough, what can I do? And, you know, it was, it was just.
00:53:28
Speaker
And those little things about, I don't know if Star-Lord in the comics was like that, but- Oh, no, not at all. Not at all. Yeah, I think they, and it's funny, we were recently, my wife had never seen the original Star Wars trilogy, so we had just watched that this past weekend. And watching again, you can see so much of Han Solo's DNA in Star-Lord. And I think that's, it's like a mix of
00:53:54
Speaker
It's like a mix of Han Solo and Malcolm Reynolds from Firefly. Yes, yes. Which Nathan Fillion, he had a cameo in this movie too. You wouldn't recognize him because he didn't actually appear. It was just him doing a voiceover. But you remember when they were in the prison and there's that big purple alien looking guy who comes up to Star Lord and he's like, I'm gonna slather you in jelly and go to town on you. That's Nathan Fillion.
00:54:23
Speaker
Really? Yeah, yeah. And he also had a cameo in Garden of the Galaxy Vol. 2. But again, it's a very small thing. He was Simon Williams, Wonder Man, because at one of the Earth scenes, they've got movie posters of Simon Williams movies, and that's Nathan Fillion playing Simon Williams. I do remember that now. Yeah, I remember that when Suzy said it.
00:54:49
Speaker
Again, another act, another, you know, high-priced actor doing a small part. Yeah. Yeah. And he's also going to be in the Suicide Squad as Armfall Off Boy. Of course he is. Of course, yeah. Of course he is. I also want to talk about now because you mentioned Yondu before and I want to talk about him because I even though I know he's nothing like the comics, like, I just love this incarnation of Yondu. He's just so fun.
00:55:25
Speaker
And then he was definitely the antagonist, but it was at least complex. More so than Ronan. Ronan is very kind of one-dimensional.
00:55:43
Speaker
Yeah, this was, this is during that time when Marvel wasn't putting a whole lot of effort into a lot of their villains outside of Loki. But, but yeah, and, but Yandu was just so, he had that whole, the whole swagger and it's all down to, oh God, what's the name of the actor who plays him? I'm completely blanking on his name.
00:56:05
Speaker
Oh, Michael, I'm gonna say Booker or something like that. Yeah, Michael Rooker, that was it. Rooker, that's it. Yeah, yeah. But also how they go from this into him and his role in the second movie too. And again, it's a testament to James Gunn's writing ability, like how complex he's able to make this character in just like the short amount of these scenes.
00:56:29
Speaker
And he stole everything he was in. He did, yeah. He stole everything he was in. And I just love how he keeps reminding Pete, you know, he's like, you remember when I bought you in, everybody wanted to eat you. And I said, no, he keeps bringing that up. One thing, I loved how they tease the arrow.
00:56:52
Speaker
And they set it up, I think they did it four times before he actually wipes out all the bad guys at the end of the movie.
00:57:04
Speaker
And I, you know, they had the weight, that sense of danger because everybody always flipped out. So, you know, it was kind of like that. It was kind of like Vader, like we didn't have, we didn't see Vader fight very often or we didn't, you know, we didn't see him fight till the very end. We didn't even see much, but you were scared of Vader. Like you were scared for the heroes when Vader showed up, even though he didn't do much. And it was the same thing with that arrow. Cause he'd start whistling. Everybody's like, Oh crap.
00:57:32
Speaker
And then it's the same guy who has a console full of figurines that he sticks up there for whatever reason that he likes. It's another one of those little character traits, right? Like the first time that comes up is when he's talking to the broker and the broker's like, I can't tell if you're being serious. And Sean Gunn's character's like, no, he's being serious. Then later you see his console and he really does have them all lined up there.
00:58:01
Speaker
And he finds out that's when he finds, I think that's when he finds out as well. We find out about his collection being real. And then he finds out he just got hornswaggled and he's got a troll. It's a troll in a little orb thing. But also that was, I love that he trolled them with a troll.
00:58:19
Speaker
But then he's got that, but the little smile he gets on his face, right? And it gives you just, it gives you just a hint of the, like even a regular bad guy would have been like, all right, got to find Star Lord now and, you know, and kill him. But, you know, the little, he's like, oh, the little fucker got me. It's like, yeah, it's like, okay, all right. And,
00:58:43
Speaker
I also grouped, like I was surprised at how emotional, like each, every time I've seen this movie, like, you know, a dozen times or so, maybe more, but like that we are group scene, it kills me every time. Yes, I, boy. Yeah, I've had to, I had to pretend like I was tough and like, I had some of my eye to leave the room a couple of times.
00:59:13
Speaker
It's amazing how they go from all trying to kill each other to we are Groot and we're all sobbing like, and it's just reaching at the heart, pull up the heartstrings. And it's completely believable too. Like it never feels forced. And it's just such a, the great assemblage of talent they got in here. And we didn't really talk that much about her, but Zoe Saldana as well, like Gio just,
00:59:41
Speaker
I mean, there's not a whole lot to say because she's just awesome in everything. Right. No, this is true. But I'm not being not one. I think they wanted her. I originally wanted to like have her CGI or something. Oh, really? I didn't know that. And that may not be true. I can't remember exactly what that was. But but she wanted to do the, you know, the makeup and the they were there. I think they were going to do something similar to what they did.
01:00:09
Speaker
Did X-Men again, what is her name? Mystique. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Was that actual painted or was that CGI? I couldn't remember. Originally, it was paint when it was Rebecca Romaine. And then with Jennifer Lawrence, I'm not sure. I think they did a mix of different things and also they kept her because she was apparently allergic to the paint. I think it was just more that she didn't want to be in it. So...
01:00:34
Speaker
But, and by that point, she had, she was coming off, you know, the Hunger Games stuff. So they, they let her do whatever she wanted anyway. So, which is why she appears more as Jennifer Lawrence than as Mystique in most of the movies after first class. That makes a lot of sense. But I think, yeah, towards the end, I think they were using a mixed, more mix of CGI stuff in there. Gotcha. Yeah. There was, she wanted to portray it through makeup more than computer graphics and stuff like that. Like, so, but so she,
01:01:04
Speaker
But yeah, she's, and everything I've seen her in, like, when I sat and thought about it, I was like, wow, she does a lot of action movies. She does, yeah. Yeah, she's like the, especially at that time, she was like the go-to action star. Like she was in that, she was in The Losers, she was in, you know, the Avatar movie, Avatar, and, you know, there was another one, Columbiana, I think it was called, and yeah, she's like, she seemed to be having that career that,
01:01:36
Speaker
Oh, what's your name? I can't even think of, there's someone I had in mind that just completely blanked on it, but she's like become like this, like, you know, she had become like this action star by that point. So when she got cast as Nebula, I mean, as Gamora, it's like, oh yeah, of course. Right. Yeah, she's worried about who was in the cara dune. Oh yeah, yeah. Gina Carano. Thank you.
01:02:07
Speaker
Yeah, Gina Carano wants to be Zoe Saldana. Yeah, well, she kind of shot herself in the foot with that. You gotta keep your mouth shut. Yeah, yeah. Especially after you're warned, right? That was the thing. Like Derek and I were talking about that. Like, you know, she was, they pulled her aside and they said, look, you know, you got to cut the shit. And then she doubles down on it instead. It's like, well, you know, we warned you. What are you going to do?
01:02:30
Speaker
and that would happen at any other job. Yeah, exactly. If she got that much notice, if she got that much notice. Oh, yeah, any other job, she would have been fired on the spot. Right. So I mean, and I don't feel bad for her. No, not at all. Hopefully lessons are learned and everybody grows. Yeah, yeah. But anyway, uh,
01:02:51
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I don't know, there's not much more to say, but I, oh, you know what? There is one more thing I wanted to mention. That's the collector, Benicio del Toro. You know, such a great choice. And just like he's how eccentric he is. And just like, like when he sees Groot and he's like, he's like, you know, you must let me pay you now so that I can have your body when you die.
01:03:11
Speaker
Is that, that's not a character I know anything about. Is that something from the, is that something that they create or is that something from the, is that somebody- He's from the comics. Yeah, the collector's, he's one of the elders in the universe along with like the grand master and a bunch of other types like order and chaos. And, but I don't think he's as eccentric as he is in this movie though.
01:03:35
Speaker
And a lot of that's down to Benicio del Toro, I think, too. But also, if you notice, in that scene, there's this dog in a Cosmo outfit. That's a character from the comics. Cosmo is his name. And he's kind of like the Guardians.
01:03:54
Speaker
kind of like their mission control. Like he kind of like runs the missions for them and stuff like that. And he's got, yeah, yeah. And he's this Russian dog who was sent into space and got lost out there and gained intelligence as a result. So we like communicates telepathically and all that. And him and Rocket have this rivalry and you could, and that's that little hinted when him and Rocket kind of growled each other. Oh, that's awesome. I did not know that. Yeah.
01:04:24
Speaker
And there's something else I want to mention. Oh, the whole scene where they show the, the celestials, right? When he's showing the history of the infinity stones. And it, that, I remember everybody was freaking out over that because, you know, before that, everybody was like, well, they can never do Galactus. Cause Galactus, you know, would be too unbelievable. And then he put a freaking celestial right up there. And it's like, okay, they can do Galactus now.
01:04:52
Speaker
I can't wait. I can't wait for it. I can't wait. And full Kirby style, too, right? It was the full Kirby on design. Like, they didn't change anything about that design. Right. Yeah, that's well, we are we are we are at a golden age for for comic book movies. Oh, yeah, absolutely. So it's it's been it's been really cool to be a nerd all these years and finally have something like this.
Howard the Duck Cameo & Film Rankings
01:05:23
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Yeah, and also at the end, the end credits scene when you get Howard the Duck pop up, voiced by Seth Green, whose voice sounds completely different. Yeah, no kidding. I didn't know that was him until I saw the, I think I looked it up online afterwards. Yeah, same here.
01:05:42
Speaker
But that was great. And then they had him pop up in volume two as well. And I hope they bring him back. And I hope they do something with Howard eventually. I know they were talking about doing a, they were doing an animated series at one point, but I think that was one of the ones that got, cause I think Modok was the only one that survived out of that. And so I'm not sure what they're going to, I hope they do something with him though. Yeah. Yeah. I like, I've liked it so far. And actually I was a little, I,
01:06:10
Speaker
I remember watching the movie, but I don't remember if it was really good or not, but I do remember watching the movie when I was a kid. I probably shouldn't have thought about it. I actually haven't seen it. I know Derek liked it. I remember him saying like, he's like, the only problem with that movie is the duck costume. But other people I know, they're like, it's not so good. So, but I actually never seen it myself. I got to check it out eventually one of these days. Oh, God, I should have made you watch that.
01:06:42
Speaker
Well, we got to have you on the show next time. Another time we could do it then. Fair enough. All right. Demont, anything else you want to talk about with Guardians of the Galaxy? I don't think so. It was a great movie. And honestly, it's in my top five of MCUs and oddly enough, Endgame is not. Oh, really?
01:07:05
Speaker
And I judge it a little bit different. Like in-game is a great movie. I'm not gonna sit here and say, oh, it's terrible. Let me be foolish. But it's not something I'm gonna rewatch over and over and over again. I watched Infinity War over and over again. I watched Black Panther over and over again. I watched this over and over again. It's just not, I don't think I've watched it completely like in one sitting since I saw it the first time. That's fair. And also it's a big time investment, right? Cause it's like, you know, three plus hours. So that's understandable.
01:07:35
Speaker
that's part maybe that's part of it too. Yeah, yeah. I mean, that's actually my I actually have sat through it several times since just that is definitely my favorite of the of the MCU. But but yeah, this and just these two like Guardians of the Galaxy one and two like they're just
01:07:52
Speaker
And they're such perfect companion pieces. I think I mentioned this when we talked about the second one is that this one is such a, they're very, it's the same characters, but they're very different types of movies, right? Like this one feels a little bit more epic in scope in some ways, whereas the second one is much more personal, right? It's much more about the character and the characters and their relationships to each other. And it's just,
01:08:20
Speaker
It's just such a great balance of both in both these movies. Now I'm gonna go watch volume two. That's how it goes. That's how it goes. All right, Daman. So where can people find you online?
01:08:40
Speaker
I can be found on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter at Demondoes, all one word, two D's in the middle, and the same at gmail.com if you want to send me an email. And you'll find Demondoes and Six Questions anywhere you can get your podcast app.
01:09:04
Speaker
Awesome, okay, thanks again for coming on. It was nice to finally meet you face-to-face after about a year or so and having you tweet out the little Derek quotes from the show every now and then. Thank you for having me. And real quick, I only knew, you know, conversed with Derek for, you know, like eight months. And in that time,
01:09:33
Speaker
If he felt like a mentor and a friend and he treated, you don't find people very often that just treat you with just openness and just, I don't know,
01:09:55
Speaker
you don't meet very good people very often. And he was one of those people for me. And for him, it was just Tuesday. You know what I mean? And it just, so it was really cool to, you know, sit in the proverbial cat bird seat. You know, and thank you very much. I really do appreciate it. Oh, my pleasure. It was definitely great having you on. And yeah, you mentioned that we had Adam Lance Garcia on the episode before last and be,
01:10:23
Speaker
you know, off camera, we were talking about about Derek, and he had said a lot of the same things that you just said, too. And that was just like this quality Derek had is that he was never he was never like, no matter what level you were, like, as far as, you know, he was never he never acted. He never felt like he was above anyone. Like, he was never condescending, no matter what your what your age, what your what your level of talent was, nothing. He was always
01:10:48
Speaker
And that quality, like he was like a mentor to everybody who just, but always in a way that never felt like he was talking down to you. He was all, that was, that was an amazing quality that he had. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And like you, like you're saying, like the, you know, the fact that you guys did this long interview and stuff. And even in that short amount of time, he, he did that with everybody. Like that was just like, that was just the way he was. Like he's just like such a personable guy and he made,
01:11:17
Speaker
And anyone who talked to Derek, you felt like he was your best friend.
Derek Ferguson's Mentorship & Podcast Support
01:11:21
Speaker
Like that was just the way he was with everybody.
01:11:26
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, but. Well, thanks. Thanks so much. Yeah, thanks again. And so yeah, please make sure to check out demand podcast and the other stuff he's doing. We're still working out who's going to be the next guest here. So we don't know exactly what we're going to be doing, doing yet still working out the schedule with
01:11:47
Speaker
who are with a few different people we're talking to. So we'll be back in two weeks with another new episode. We're going to go with the biweekly format just because
01:11:57
Speaker
You know, it's a little bit harder to schedule guests and everything now with, um, we don't have a, we don't have a set date as we did with Eric anymore. Um, but anyway, go check out superhero cinephiles.com. Check out our Facebook group and, um, you know, please drop us a super cinema pod on Twitter, on Instagram. And if you can donate to the show in any way, help support it, that would be great. And that does it for now. And of course, as always, you know, want to remember our.
01:12:24
Speaker
departed host emeritus Derek Ferguson and the show's always going to be dedicated in his honor. Thanks so much for listening and we will see you next time. You have been listening to the Superhero Cinephiles podcast. Follow us on Twitter and Instagram at SuperCinemapod. Join our Facebook group by searching for Superhero Cinephiles where you can interact with us and other superhero fans.
01:12:45
Speaker
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01:13:22
Speaker
Thank you for listening and as always good night. Good evening. God bless.