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Speaker: There he is.
Speaker: What's good, bro?
Speaker: Good afternoon.
Speaker: How are you?
Speaker: Good morning, West Coasters.
Speaker: You're on the East Coast in Toronto?
Speaker: How are you?
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: How's it going?
Speaker: How's life?
Speaker: It's good, man.
Speaker: It's miracle season.
Speaker: Hey!
Speaker: All day.
Speaker: Man, thank you for being on here, man.
Speaker: It's been a minute since we last spoke.
Speaker: The last time I ran into you, you were at Soho House.
Speaker: Am I correct?
Speaker: Maybe a lot's changed, man.
Speaker: I canceled my membership there.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: They have one in Canada.
Speaker: Is it a solo house?
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: That's where I got my first one.
Speaker: So I got my membership in Toronto years ago.
Speaker: And I got the worldwide membership, which allowed me to go to the LA one because the LA Soho house is actually, there's like a multiple year waiting list.
Speaker: A lot of people don't know that.
Speaker: Yeah, because that's like that one in the Miami one are like the big ones, right?
Speaker: And so that was really cool though to go there because I remember like one time I was having brunch and like Common sat down the table next to me.
Speaker: I'm like, yo, this is like, that's wild, you know?
Speaker: Yeah, everybody's in there.
Speaker: It's like every who's who.
Speaker: of America and the world, celebrity athlete, it's crazy.
Speaker: Yeah, man, look, we're here.
Speaker: We got a conversation I want to have with you.
Speaker: I just want to catch up.
Speaker: But to people who don't know who Matthew Santoro is, this guy is a big, big, big, big YouTube sensation and star.
Speaker: um he's been on youtube for a long time before the new youtubers uh he's also he has six million subscribers um and i met him at an event uh he did my podcast like three years ago and then we just stayed in touch man um but let's just get right into it i think my first question for you is six million subscribers like what was your intentions to even get there how did that start and when did it start
Speaker: um well i'll just be completely transparent with you ever since i was young i wanted to be famous now that's not something that i care about now yeah i'm saying back then that was a huge goal of mine and so when my career started taking off
Speaker: I was like, oh, I'm finally getting everything that I ever wanted.
Speaker: I got the attention and then the money started coming in all that.
Speaker: And so but, you know, as time went on, as we all know, these things are not what fulfills us.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: There's only one thing that can fulfill us.
Speaker: And that's that's connecting to our source energy.
Speaker: and so you know but at the time i wanted it and so i just i envisioned it i envisioned it i envisioned it ever since i was a little kid i was always grateful because my mom always you know i had that support from from the home base as well my mom always told me since i was a little kid i would do something great for the world one day i would do something to help people one day um
Speaker: and you know i'm not out here curing cancer or anything like that but you know like i put a smile on people's faces and and you know even if i do a creepy video and i creep people out i get dms from people saying like you know uh like can i can i say things like i don't want i don't know if we do trigger warnings or whatever on here but like i've had people say things like i was gonna kill myself and and and i didn't
Speaker: because I stumbled upon your videos and for some reason it just gave me a reason to not do it.
Speaker: And that's when I realized like the things we do in life impact other people in ways that we may never know.
Speaker: And I'm sure there are other people that have never DMed me that have been impacted by my videos and I'll never know that.
Speaker: I've even had people that were deployed in Afghanistan be like, dude, I am currently in Afghanistan and watching your blogs, just simple videos of me walking around showing home reminds them why they're doing what they're doing.
Speaker: And that right there is just, that's a wild, I don't know if you've ever experienced that or not.
Speaker: Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker: I always say,
Speaker: You never know who's watching, no matter what you are, where you are, someone's watching you.
Speaker: When I was 17, I think my little brother at the time was probably six years old.
Speaker: I was going to a senior prom.
Speaker: But I had a picture of Junior Promo me and my date and, you know, and I was putting cologne on and like he came upstairs and like he had the little like keychain with the date on it and he stopped putting on cologne.
Speaker: And in my mind, I'm 17.
Speaker: I'm still a kid.
Speaker: You know, I'm thinking like, damn, this kid, this is my little brother.
Speaker: He's watching me.
Speaker: I'm inspiring him.
Speaker: So I just think it's important to really be intentional about what we do.
Speaker: about what we put out and I think you've been adding value to people for years.
Speaker: I mean to get 6 million subscribers, I mean come on now you got YouTube awards.
Speaker: I think you did like you do a lot of like facts right top 10 facts top 50 facts and I think you did one of books.
Speaker: I think the number one book sold is like the Bible right?
Speaker: Yeah of all time.
Speaker: And you probably got over like 300 or maybe more videos, but I just think for you, how many?
Speaker: I've done almost a thousand videos.
Speaker: Wow.
Speaker: Can you speak on, you know, not only successful consistency, like what keeps you consistent and where do you get the momentum to keep going and to find information and insight to kind of build up, you know, your content for your followers and for your people on your platform?
Speaker: Because you've been doing it for how long?
Speaker: How many years?
Speaker: Just YouTube.
Speaker: 11 years.
Speaker: You got a decade in.
Speaker: Give that man his props.
Speaker: Give him his flowers.
Speaker: Yeah, it's been a long time.
Speaker: So what was your question?
Speaker: Like what keeps you going?
Speaker: How, where did you get the momentum to be consistent, to have the information and insights to know what to push out to your platform on YouTube?
Speaker: Like where did all that come from?
Speaker: The content ideas?
Speaker: Yeah, that's changed over the years.
Speaker: Like when I first started, I literally just started making videos because I wanted to make people laugh and just be goofy.
Speaker: And I was always the class clown and I always really enjoyed being silly and I would get in trouble for it in school and things like that.
Speaker: I decided that when I graduated university that I was still that guy.
Speaker: And I no longer, like I wasn't a classical in university, but I wasn't high school and lower.
Speaker: And so I figured I wanted to bring that part of my personality back.
Speaker: And so I would just make goofy videos.
Speaker: But that worked a bit.
Speaker: I got a bit of success.
Speaker: I think after four and a half years, I got 15,000 subscribers.
Speaker: So it took a long time to get that many, but I started doing top tens because, you know, I was just experimenting with different things.
Speaker: And that's when I discovered I'm a good presenter of information.
Speaker: You know, I would never put myself on a level like a Bill Nye, but he was always someone that inspired me in the way that he presented information because he met, he made it interesting.
Speaker: Like,
Speaker: she was the science teacher we wish we all had yeah and so i wanted to be that for people uh after a while i didn't think that of myself that way at first but it i sort of became that in a way for some people and so i embraced that and in one year i got you know three and a half million subscribers and that's that tip oh in one year yeah that's that well that's the thing right it takes 10 years to be an overnight success
Speaker: So what was that video that kind of took off for you?
Speaker: What video was it?
Speaker: Do you remember?
Speaker: I get that question all the time.
Speaker: I never had one.
Speaker: It was just consistent.
Speaker: When it's your time, it's your time.
Speaker: I like that.
Speaker: When God has it lined up for you, it will happen in God's time.
Speaker: It's not going to happen in your time.
Speaker: God doesn't work on our schedule.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: So, and you know this.
Speaker: And so,
Speaker: you know i don't know if you've ever seen that meme online i'm sure a lot of people have but there's a guy above and a guy below and they're both both have pickaxes you've probably seen this yes everybody's seen this meme and the top guy is picking picking picking and he quits and you can see him walking away with his head down with his axe over his shoulder but he was this close to the diamonds
Speaker: But the guy below, he's got this much between him and the diamonds, but he's going at it.
Speaker: He's going at it.
Speaker: And that's the thing.
Speaker: It's like Malcolm Gladwell tipping point.
Speaker: There's a tipping point that happens in life where it's nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing.
Speaker: And then it all happens at once.
Speaker: It's like it's the opposite of the roller coaster.
Speaker: Instead of going this way, it goes up.
Speaker: And that's what I try to tell people.
Speaker: It's like,
Speaker: Don't give up and do what you want to do because when it's your time, it will happen for you and it won't happen
Speaker: it won't happen small.
Speaker: It's going to happen big and it's all going to come at once.
Speaker: That's what people don't understand.
Speaker: Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Speaker: Can you go back to that?
Speaker: Because not to cut you off, that's really big.
Speaker: I've never heard that in that way.
Speaker: It's not going to happen small.
Speaker: It's going to happen big.
Speaker: Where did you get that perspective from?
Speaker: How did you even get to that thought so you can say it like that?
Speaker: That's kind of deep and interesting.
Speaker: personal experience and i've seen it over and over and a lot of different people like um i want to this is a good segue to bitcoin i almost want to talk yeah let's do it let's do it let's we go it's organic all right so so my career i told you about the three and a half million in a year but let's talk about bitcoin because i want this is something that this is a perfect segue into that so
Speaker: You know that you were on my podcast back in the day and we talked about Bitcoin.
Speaker: I talked about Bitcoin in the very first podcast.
Speaker: I've been a big proponent of it since 2017.
Speaker: I've been investing in it for a long time.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And I want people to pay special attention to what I'm about to say because I want you to learn from my mistake.
Speaker: I went all in on Bitcoin early.
Speaker: I had more money in Bitcoin
Speaker: than I did in my actual bank account.
Speaker: That's how much I believed in it.
Speaker: I had that money locked up in Bitcoin for over three years.
Speaker: I rode all the ups and all the downs.
Speaker: There were some times in between where I made a little bit of money here and there, but for the most part, I wrote it out because I got a voice in my head that said, yo, $10,000 a coin, that is a steal.
Speaker: That like the world is crazy right now for thinking that 10,000, like the fact that everyone isn't going all in at $10,000 a coin is bananas to me.
Speaker: And when it kept going down and down and then back up to 10,000, then, you know, Black Thursday hit, which was a year from yesterday, which was when the pandemic was announced, it dropped to 3,000 a coin.
Speaker: And I'm like, yo, y'all are like, I'm on it.
Speaker: Like my, like, I must live on another planet here because I'm seeing something that no, like other people aren't seeing.
Speaker: So I held it, held it, held it.
Speaker: now here's where the story comes in that i want people to pay attention to i always knew that bitcoin was going to be where it's at now i had a vision board i don't have that vision board anymore but if you look i act it's actually in the background of my old tick tocks like tick tocks from a year ago if you look at that you'll see 20k a coin five million dollars those are two things that were on my my vision board in october of last year i believe it was october
Speaker: Bitcoin for the first time in years went up to $11,500.
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: After like a year of being in a slump, I made some money.
Speaker: I had a friend convince me, dude, it's just going to happen again.
Speaker: Sell all your Bitcoin, make that money, lock it in.
Speaker: And then when it drops again, buy it again.
Speaker: And I had that person who, by the way, is a good friend of mine, loves me.
Speaker: I know he wants the best for me.
Speaker: He convinced me to do that.
Speaker: Now look at where Bitcoin is.
Speaker: Bitcoin within a month.
Speaker: Sold all your Bitcoin?
Speaker: Sold all of it for 11,500.
Speaker: And if I told, I'm not gonna tell you how much I had, but if you knew how much Bitcoin I had, well, I'll tell you, I'm not gonna tell you, I'm not gonna tell you how much I put in it, but I'll tell you how much I would have had.
Speaker: A month later, it hit $20,000.
Speaker: 30 days.
Speaker: Later, I held Bitcoin for three years.
Speaker: I had a friend convince me because he was saying something to me that he thought was for my best interest.
Speaker: And 30 days later, it hit 20K.
Speaker: That was on my vision board.
Speaker: Two months later, it hit 60K.
Speaker: Do you know how much money I would have made if I sold at 60K?
Speaker: $5 million.
Speaker: How much?
Speaker: $5 million.
Speaker: That was on my vision board.
Speaker: That didn't have my vision.
Speaker: It doesn't mean that he had bad intentions for me.
Speaker: I know he didn't.
Speaker: This guy's like my brother.
Speaker: But the point I'm trying to make here to people is sometimes the people in your life,
Speaker: as well as especially people that aren't in your life but especially the people that are your friends and family sometimes they will say things to you that they think are in your best interest you know you've been trying stand-up comedy for years maybe you should try to get a real job you know that sad look in their eyes it's like you're never gonna make it because they want the best for you yeah i allowed that to i allowed myself to betray my vision that i held for three years
Speaker: and I lost out on exactly $5 million profit.
Speaker: That's how much I would have made profit.
Speaker: Now, the reason I tell people this is because when you have a vision, this is what I want people to pay attention to.
Speaker: When you have a vision,
Speaker: Do not stray from that vision.
Speaker: There will be people in your life and people that aren't in your life on social media, this and that.
Speaker: Why are you posting that TikTok?
Speaker: You're not funny.
Speaker: You're not good enough.
Speaker: You're not tall enough.
Speaker: You're too bald.
Speaker: You're ugly.
Speaker: Whatever people say to you, there are people that will try to tell you that
Speaker: you're just not gonna do it and that vision is crazy i had a friend i have a dm with my friend that i've been saying forever bitcoin will eventually hit forty thousand dollars a coin i have i found that screenshot from uh years ago when i said it to this guy who i'm no longer friends with different person but the point is it's now 60k yes and so
Speaker: That's an example.
Speaker: If I would have held onto that vision, that's what I mean by God makes everything happen all at once.
Speaker: Three years holding, in a span of a few months, I would have been a multimillionaire.
Speaker: That took a few months to get over.
Speaker: I'm not going to lie to you.
Speaker: I had major, like anybody, you know, I had the winning lottery ticket, right?
Speaker: And so that took some time to get over.
Speaker: I'm at peace with it now.
Speaker: Now I understand there's a reason God didn't want me to have that money for one reason or another.
Speaker: God knew, God, I believe when things don't happen for us, God isn't holding things back from us to hurt us.
Speaker: He's doing it to protect us.
Speaker: There's a reason that I wasn't supposed to have that.
Speaker: And so you just got wisdom.
Speaker: You just gave us wisdom.
Speaker: You just helped me because I wanted to tell people, I remember in 2019, you think you had just moved into Palazzo by the Grove.
Speaker: You were telling me, look, my friend, Eric, listen to me.
Speaker: Eric, listen to me.
Speaker: I'm texting you, my man.
Speaker: Get Bitcoin.
Speaker: Get Bitcoin.
Speaker: You were like putting it in my head and I was like, ah, you know, I mean.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: I just didn't know, you know, like get Bitcoin.
Speaker: You were the one I remember.
Speaker: I remember where you were, you were outside of your apartment going into the game.
Speaker: Brother, get Bitcoin.
Speaker: And it just didn't make sense to me.
Speaker: And so if we could sell it, I was like, I'm thinking you would have been up like at least 300, 400,000 because I know you, you know how to play the game.
Speaker: But I was telling my Facebook group earlier that
Speaker: I don't care what no one around you think, your father, your mother, your friend, your spouse, you have to follow your heart.
Speaker: And your heart is your vision.
Speaker: Your vision is what you believe.
Speaker: Your vision is what you know.
Speaker: It's your certainty.
Speaker: It's your discernment.
Speaker: It's what you believe that will happen no matter what no one thinks.
Speaker: Because you didn't get 6 million followers, subscribers because
Speaker: Oh, yeah, I'm just this.
Speaker: You just knew that there was something about yourself that you want to do.
Speaker: You wanted to be famous.
Speaker: You got the fame.
Speaker: And now you're here.
Speaker: So you're a manifester.
Speaker: You know how to manifest your life.
Speaker: I do.
Speaker: And there's two things I learned from that.
Speaker: Number one, don't let anyone dissuade you from your vision.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And when people like
Speaker: I just want to say about that letting people dissuade you from your vision when people try to talk about your vision Some of them are trolls online for example But the real people that you really got to watch out for are the people that are closest to you Yes, because they don't mean harm.
Speaker: That's that's what's so insidious.
Speaker: That's how that's how the devil works Yeah, the devil works by putting like God fits a vision in your heart and then the devil will make other people
Speaker: thinking that they're looking out for your best interests come to you and say, you know what?
Speaker: I don't really, I don't think that that's for you, man.
Speaker: Or you know what?
Speaker: You should sell your Bitcoin and they don't mean harm.
Speaker: It's just that they don't have vision that was put in your heart.
Speaker: Other don't expect other people to support you when you have a crazy vision, because they don't, how can you expect them to?
Speaker: They're not in your, I said that the outsiders are not on your inside.
Speaker: They don't even
Speaker: know what you know what you feel what you've been through I remember for years Matt years you know people would say you need to go get a real job you do this I was going over I was working at the nightclub I was selling water machine I was being a fitness trainer and to go back to what you said you said it's all gonna happen being that my life changed like
Speaker: that and it all happened to be in my whole life tipping point it was everyone should read tipping point by malcolm gladwell there's this theory that it all happens at once like he's got this story in the book about how uh there was there were these um i can't remember it's been a couple years since i read it but there were these types of shoes that
Speaker: were retro and these people sold them at a shop and they really loved them but they just weren't selling and then but they believed in that vision and so they kept selling them kept selling them and they were like practically about to go under and then some like famous person came in and bought a pair because they thought they were cute and were seen wearing them and then they were the next big rage and they were the first ones in line to sell them because nobody else had them
Speaker: Now, immediately after that, everybody started selling them, but they profited from that because they didn't get dissuaded from their vision.
Speaker: They kept selling.
Speaker: You know, I guarantee you their mother, father, friends, whatever,
Speaker: Like, you know, Lucy, why are you selling these shoes?
Speaker: Like, what are you doing?
Speaker: Like, nobody wants these crappy old shoes.
Speaker: But next thing, you never know.
Speaker: If a vision is in your heart, I'm telling you guys, like, I wish somebody else, if at least one person out there hears what we're saying right now,
Speaker: and sticks with your vision, then this whole broadcast has been worth it.
Speaker: Because I'm telling you, you don't want the regret of knowing that you had it.
Speaker: Like that was the thing.
Speaker: And you just gave up on life.
Speaker: Because as Les Brown says, only you can give life
Speaker: to your visions only you can give life to those and the worst thing that could happen is for you to die and for your dreams to surround your grave and die with you and stay to you only you could have given us life but now we have to go to the grave with you
Speaker: Yes, I remember that message.
Speaker: It's profound.
Speaker: Because at the end of the day, no one can be you more than you.
Speaker: No one can do you more than you.
Speaker: No one's thinking, looking, feeling, acting, being you.
Speaker: And so a lot of times we want to go and be something else that's not us.
Speaker: That's not even you.
Speaker: So stick with the vision, stay within, connect to that.
Speaker: And when I say vision, like I want people to understand a vision isn't just like
Speaker: Should I buy Bitcoin?
Speaker: No, no, that's not a vision.
Speaker: A vision is a, is a, I honestly have come to believe that it's, it's God speaking to you.
Speaker: I honestly believe, I believe that it's God putting something in your heart that says it's this unshakable,
Speaker: feeling that you know you need to do something we've all had that at least once in our life that feeling like i can't explain it it doesn't make logical sense in the norm in the natural it makes no sense but i know that this thing that everybody's telling me is crazy and doesn't make any sense yeah that is unproven bitcoin i need to do it i just i i just know it it's like this like boom like rock in my heart that cannot be shaken
Speaker: And if you betray that, you're going to regret it later.
Speaker: Now, in my scenario with the Bitcoin thing, there's only two times in my life that I've had that voice talk to me.
Speaker: One was to start creating YouTube videos.
Speaker: Look what happened there.
Speaker: I followed through with that.
Speaker: I'm still doing it 11 years later, making a comfortable living.
Speaker: The second was with Bitcoin.
Speaker: and that's what hurt because i actually had i actually had to have a call with a pastor about this to know how to deal with having betrayed my the voice that was given to me and and what we came down to was that it just wasn't meant to happen and it doesn't mean you betrayed god it doesn't mean i betrayed myself it means that it was guided by the hand of god for a reason and maybe you know maybe there's somebody in here right now that's going to create the next tesla
Speaker: that needed to hear this and was about to give up yeah and maybe that's how the web of god's mind works he works through people he uses people and to to inspire and and make others
Speaker: do what they were meant to do.
Speaker: And I really, really believe that.
Speaker: And so, you know, I'm at peace with it.
Speaker: And, but I'll tell you, it took months for me to get over that.
Speaker: Of course.
Speaker: I'm telling you, bro, like, it's not it's not even that I had the winning lottery ticket.
Speaker: It's that I
Speaker: I knew I had to win a lottery ticket for years.
Speaker: I knew it.
Speaker: I've been there on the TV show and I'm trying to talk to a producer and tell him like, listen, listen to me.
Speaker: You're like, no, you're prejudging.
Speaker: I'm like, I'm not prejudging.
Speaker: It's in my heart.
Speaker: And then a show comes out and then they get the drawback and I said, I was telling you and I went against what I felt.
Speaker: And it shot myself in the foot.
Speaker: And I call those things God thoughts.
Speaker: You know, like, it's God, it's God thoughts.
Speaker: It's God.
Speaker: Look at Tesla.
Speaker: Look at Apple.
Speaker: Look at look at all these adventures.
Speaker: They believed in Walt Disney.
Speaker: These people believe that they can have this thing, but it came to them.
Speaker: It didn't just like, oh, like Tesla.
Speaker: Like you said, Steve Jobs.
Speaker: Steve Jobs came to his team and said, I want you to make a phone and I want you
Speaker: I want you to fit all of these things in this design.
Speaker: His design team came back after months and said, this cannot be done.
Speaker: They didn't say you're out of your mind because he's the boss, but you knew they thought it.
Speaker: And they said to him, sir, this cannot be done.
Speaker: like scientifically impossible to fit all of this in a phone he said got it go back and do it he didn't accept it go back and do it now what if steve listened to them what if they he let all of these professionals all of these people that are scientific engineers that know better than him they do they know better than him say to him no and he said ah you know what i think they're right
Speaker: I'm just not going to create the iPhone.
Speaker: Where would we be today?
Speaker: We haven't had any of this technology.
Speaker: But guess what happened?
Speaker: They went back and they made it work.
Speaker: Yeah, they made it work.
Speaker: And Steve Jobs is known for being a dick.
Speaker: Yeah, but he was a brilliant, brilliant man.
Speaker: He changed the world.
Speaker: And he changed the world.
Speaker: Sometimes you can't change the world being the most positive, nicest, kindest person.
Speaker: It just doesn't.
Speaker: Sometimes that shit doesn't get things done.
Speaker: I'm sorry.
Speaker: I've been there for years and people took my kindness for weakness.
Speaker: Being too cool for school doesn't get you anywhere.
Speaker: Being authentic, being vulnerable, speaking your truth and letting people know about it in a diplomatic way if you can.
Speaker: But you got to give it because if you hold on to it, you're going to what?
Speaker: Close up your throat shopper.
Speaker: You got to speak your truth.
Speaker: And that's how you manifest diseases.
Speaker: That's how you get colds in the throat.
Speaker: Like that stuff is real, man.
Speaker: Like I, you know, I never used to be one to be like, you know, oh, chakras.
Speaker: Like some, I'm sure there's some people out there that don't believe that stuff, but I'm telling you, this stuff is real.
Speaker: And if you start shutting down certain parts of the body and restricting that energy flow, if you don't speak your truth, if you don't speak, if you tell lies, if you talk gossip and all of these things, you're blocking your throat chakra.
Speaker: And that's how you start getting like cancers of the throat or even little things like like you'll find that you'll start getting sick in the throat area a lot more.
Speaker: You might lose your voice like these are real things.
Speaker: Yeah, it's real.
Speaker: is important.
Speaker: I know we didn't touch on it, but you said, you know, when you were younger, you wanted to be famous.
Speaker: So when you got fame to where you are now, how did you adjust?
Speaker: What was that adjustment period like?
Speaker: And how did it impact your life?
Speaker: Oh, dude, it changed it in a trajectory that was never like, could have never been seen on my end.
Speaker: It literally changed everything and for the worse and then the better.
Speaker: So I believe that money was the answer.
Speaker: I thought fame was the answer.
Speaker: And I got those things.
Speaker: And I can tell everyone right now, and this might be hard for some of you to swallow because I know we're in an economic slump right now.
Speaker: A lot of people don't have jobs, but I still want you to hear what I'm saying.
Speaker: Back years ago, at my peak, when I was making the most amount of money, I was making six figures a month, US dollars, living in LA.
Speaker: And I was the most miserable I had ever been in my life.
Speaker: Because here's the thing, when you first get it, it changes a lot.
Speaker: And you get real excited and you're on a high.
Speaker: But here's the thing, human beings adapt.
Speaker: And that's what's allowed us to become the apex species because if things are really bad, we adapt and we move forward.
Speaker: If things are really good, we also adapt.
Speaker: And so you get used to that money and over time it just becomes numbers, digits in a bank account.
Speaker: You can't eat six roasts at one meal.
Speaker: You can't drive 10 cars at once.
Speaker: You can't live in four homes at once.
Speaker: And so material things over time just become material things and they just become things that you collect.
Speaker: And so for me, I tried all that.
Speaker: I remember one time I was so depressed just to alleviate the depression.
Speaker: I replaced all of my Apple stuff, my HomePod, my $6,000 MacBook, my iPhone, everything from space gray to silver.
Speaker: just because I wanted all of my stuff silver.
Speaker: And I spent like 11 grand on that.
Speaker: And I know that sounds insane, but I was insane.
Speaker: I was in an insane state.
Speaker: I was in a depressed state and I would get a high from buying things.
Speaker: And that's so incredibly dangerous.
Speaker: And that led me to such a low point
Speaker: that i decided i have to make a change and so i started meditating i became spiritual and i connected with my source energy and what i found out was i was completely disconnected from god i was completely disconnected from source energy the universe love good vibes whatever word works best for you i was disconnected from it and when i got reconnected to it it showed me that i had a lot of growing to do
Speaker: And I remember talking to you, man.
Speaker: We came out of church one day and I was starving going in.
Speaker: Do you remember this?
Speaker: I was so hungry going into it.
Speaker: You joined London and I going to the El Rey Theater for Zoe Church.
Speaker: And I was so hungry.
Speaker: It was like I was intermittent fasting at the time.
Speaker: It was 1 p.m.
Speaker: And we walked in.
Speaker: I was like, yo, I am so hungry right now.
Speaker: Like, I'm going crazy.
Speaker: At the end of that service, do you remember what I said?
Speaker: Because we all went out to Denny's right after.
Speaker: I said, I'm not even hungry anymore.
Speaker: And you said, because your spirit's been filled.
Speaker: Do you remember that?
Speaker: Oh, yes.
Speaker: I remember that.
Speaker: And I was like, holy crap, like that's actually true.
Speaker: Like I'm filled with like the presence of God.
Speaker: I'm not even hungry right now.
Speaker: Now we still went to go eat, but I wasn't, I didn't feel that.
Speaker: Yeah, I discovered probably like three years ago, I used to fast once a month for a whole day, no food, just water.
Speaker: And a friend had kind of brought to my attention, he said, you know, when you're eating, you're constantly eating food, you're actually putting, because food is energy, vibration, you're putting food in you and it's kind of clogging up your spirit.
Speaker: So you can't even get to your highest thoughts or your highest self.
Speaker: So I was saying like, how does a person, like you said, don't go, doesn't eat at all, and then it's not hungry.
Speaker: because his spirit is filled so fasting teaches you how to not want anything energetically fulfilled from food but more spiritually fulfilled from the intangible part of source right yeah and you know I've been in positions where I emotionally eat that's been me for the last like three months and I'm just yeah I would eat really fast yeah you know there's a book called the enzyme factor this guy Craig I think uh Kolonovsky scope of
Speaker: He's a Japanese guy.
Speaker: But anyway, he said most people gain weight because they do not chew their food, they swallow it, right?
Speaker: So then that food just stays in there, it's not digested.
Speaker: People don't chop up their food when they eat it.
Speaker: And then he said food combined, right?
Speaker: You can have a healthy meal, you can have a good protein, you can have asparagus, you can have sweet potatoes, you can have brown rice.
Speaker: He said, that's great, but all those foods combined together messes up the digestive tract because it's hard to break down.
Speaker: So I'm just saying like, so I got into mindful eating, taking my time, chewing my food, not being on my phone, and less is more.
Speaker: And so all these things that I discovered as we get right into like consciousness and meditation and prayer and attention setting is that everything we do, we take out time in a meditative state.
Speaker: It's so much better when we're speaking, when we're working out, right?
Speaker: Even when we're like intimate with a partner, describing something, teaching something.
Speaker: When we take our time, we get better results.
Speaker: It's like Michael Jordan was great because he played through the source.
Speaker: He literally played spiritual basketball.
Speaker: He wasn't rushing.
Speaker: He was poised.
Speaker: He had pace.
Speaker: He wasn't trying to make the shot.
Speaker: He was the shot.
Speaker: He was one with everything and those things became him and it looked like, wow.
Speaker: So what people, what was your journey into consciousness and spiritual?
Speaker: I know you said, you know, you had being rich and making all that money, but what got you in it?
Speaker: so far so deep where you're like I feel like you're a beast right now like I remember at one point you was reading like two to three books or four books like every two months or something like that you were like you're like on it maybe it's like three years ago but yeah yeah yeah so 2019 2019 I read 53 books yeah 53 books last year I read half that and then this year I'm probably not even gonna read like
Speaker: seven or maybe even five.
Speaker: And I'll tell you why, because it's taking me a long time to read one book because I'm spending all of my time in the creative zone.
Speaker: The last two years were a way for me to recover and build my spiritual side and have like a foundation.
Speaker: And now I'm in a place where I'm happy creating again.
Speaker: But one thing going back to what you just said,
Speaker: I want people to understand, when most people do things, they didn't do what you just said, which is the Michael Jordan thing is be the ball.
Speaker: That's why he was so good.
Speaker: He was in it.
Speaker: He was fully present.
Speaker: Most people don't do the things fully that they're doing.
Speaker: When people are eating, people aren't eating.
Speaker: They're thinking about a million other things.
Speaker: They're on their phone.
Speaker: They're watching TV.
Speaker: They're not eating.
Speaker: They think they're eating, but they're not eating.
Speaker: When people are walking down the street, they're not walking down the street.
Speaker: They're doing a million other things.
Speaker: They're thinking about things.
Speaker: They're on their phone.
Speaker: They're thinking about ex-girlfriends or this person, that person.
Speaker: Just be in the moment, man.
Speaker: Like, I know it sounds like cliche because it's said so much now, but I'm telling you guys,
Speaker: I read some books by oh my god, I think it was Osho.
Speaker: I'm sure you're familiar with Osho.
Speaker: I love Osho.
Speaker: Yes.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And there was a book I was reading by him.
Speaker: The best book by him, by the way, is Trust.
Speaker: If you guys get the book Trust by Osho, one of the best books you'll ever read in your life.
Speaker: One of the things he says is when people are eating, they're not actually eating.
Speaker: They're doing other things.
Speaker: And when you focus on one thing, it's so much better.
Speaker: When you eat, like, let me, I want to present a challenge to anyone in here right now.
Speaker: When you eat your next meal, don't do anything else except just look at the food,
Speaker: chew the food taste the food feel the sensation of it going over your tongue all of it be 100 there watch how much better food tastes i'm telling you man it was like i woke up after that book i started eating food and mindfully eating i was blown away by how good the same food i'd always been eating actually was because i wasn't allowing myself to notice
Speaker: all the sensations and the warmth of the cold of the food and the flavor of the food, it's all there.
Speaker: We just don't see it.
Speaker: We don't taste it.
Speaker: We don't feel it because we're not there.
Speaker: We're somewhere else.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: Absolutely.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And, you know, I'm just understanding what you are, what you eat means now, like literally as you age, your body changes, your metabolism changes, world changes.
Speaker: And so,
Speaker: I realize in America, we give out big portions of food.
Speaker: You go to Europe or somewhere else, it's not that big.
Speaker: You get a salad here and it's like, it's huge, right?
Speaker: So mindful eating, breathing, right?
Speaker: deep breaths, intention setting because you know people say what are your goals?
Speaker: I was like I don't really have goals but I have intentions right and so those intentions with an intention the goals or the desires or wants fall right underneath that.
Speaker: So it's a lot easier for me to get more instead of just saying I have to get
Speaker: six million subscribers like you know what i want a million subscribers so maybe i'll get two you know so everyone's different but those little things i call it intangible gifts of self helps you get the manifestation of the physical things you think you want and deserve and to go back to making money and having fame i tell people everything is not what it seems
Speaker: Everything because it looks just because it's shine and it's a diamond doesn't mean it's the finest.
Speaker: Just because it looks good doesn't mean it tastes good.
Speaker: Right?
Speaker: Exactly.
Speaker: Just because it sounds good doesn't mean you know it feels good.
Speaker: So a lot of times like you said with eating we have to experience the things we think we want instead of just saying I want those things.
Speaker: I tell people why do you want to be married if you've never been married?
Speaker: Why are you in a relationship if you've never been in a relationship with yourself?
Speaker: And can I say one thing about the goal setting that you were just talking about?
Speaker: I think this bears being said.
Speaker: When you set a goal or believe for something to happen,
Speaker: ask ask as big as you can possibly imagine of god whatever it is multiply it by 10 and ask god for that and i'll tell you why because the bible says god wishes to give you the secret petitions of your heart god wants to give you whatever you ask ask and thou shall be given this is what the bible says whatever you ask god for it will be given to you so
Speaker: You know, a lot of people like for I'll give you me as an example.
Speaker: I asked God for 20k Bitcoin.
Speaker: It went to 60.
Speaker: Why didn't I ask for 100k Bitcoin?
Speaker: You see what I'm saying?
Speaker: Like, and now I didn't get it.
Speaker: But that's not the point, right?
Speaker: Because I sold.
Speaker: But, you know, I think it was, I forget who it was, but I was watching a motivational video.
Speaker: And somebody said something that was so profound.
Speaker: It might have been Joel Osteen, I'm not sure, but... Yeah, it was crazy.
Speaker: It was just on my spirit.
Speaker: I was just saying, Joel Osteen just said, you gotta ask big.
Speaker: Stop.
Speaker: That was part of where I got that from.
Speaker: Yeah, because I remember watching it.
Speaker: I know you talking about it.
Speaker: And I did my own research and I was like, yo, this is all very true.
Speaker: And one of the things he said was, I think it was him.
Speaker: Like most people... You said that.
Speaker: His name came up.
Speaker: Exactly.
Speaker: Most people that have a nine to five, for example, right?
Speaker: most people will say things like uh i want to get i want to get a raise right
Speaker: But what they should be asking for is God, I want to own the company.
Speaker: Yes.
Speaker: Like that's, that's the thing.
Speaker: Like, I think Joel Olsteen said, are you asking to be, cause there was a Bible verse about like a man was a slave or something.
Speaker: And then he ended up owning the farm.
Speaker: I can't remember what it was, but are you asking to be a better slave or asking to be the master?
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: Of your destiny.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: Are you, are you a slave of the system?
Speaker: Are you asking to be a better slave of the system or are you asking to be a master of your destiny?
Speaker: And the problem is we ask too small of God.
Speaker: And so God gives it to us.
Speaker: Oh God, if I just had 20 bucks to pay my rent next month, like I just need 20 more dollars.
Speaker: No, no, ask God for a million dollars.
Speaker: Like, take what you think and expand it to your wildest dreams because it can happen and God wants to give you the secret petitions of your heart.
Speaker: And so if you don't ask, you will not get it.
Speaker: But if you ask, you will.
Speaker: But it's not gonna come in your time.
Speaker: it's going to come in god's time so you got to be patient know that it is coming you it's not gonna don't thank god in advance for what has not been delivered yet because believe continue to believe in your heart every day god
Speaker: Thank you for that million dollars that's on the way.
Speaker: I know it's on the way.
Speaker: I know it's coming soon.
Speaker: And I want to thank you that it's already here, even though it's not here yet, but I know it's on its way.
Speaker: Don't at any point waiver from that, because as soon as you waiver, you're severing your connection to your source energy, and then it won't happen.
Speaker: There you go.
Speaker: That's powerful.
Speaker: There's another Reverend, his name is Ike, Reverend Ike.
Speaker: He's back in the 70s.
Speaker: And he said, are you living by choice?
Speaker: Or are you living by chance?
Speaker: And are you on good terms with yourself?
Speaker: Like a 16 minute clip, but he like,
Speaker: He's back in the 70s.
Speaker: He's like, are we living by choice or chance?
Speaker: And I always tell people, I don't do things because I can.
Speaker: I do things because I'm passionate and I'm inspired by it and I'm curious.
Speaker: Because anyone can say, yeah, let's just date or let's just hang out.
Speaker: I don't want to do that.
Speaker: I want to have a purpose.
Speaker: What's my intention here?
Speaker: What are we doing this for?
Speaker: Like, I knew why I reached out to you.
Speaker: I knew I was going to have this type of discussion.
Speaker: I knew he was going to tap into something that we wouldn't even understand.
Speaker: understand, but we do understand because we're in it.
Speaker: And the Proverbs 7, all you're getting, get understanding.
Speaker: So a lot of us, we get things, but we don't understand the things we get.
Speaker: Or we believe in things we don't even understand, right?
Speaker: Because it's so easy.
Speaker: Of course, I want, like I've learned like two years ago, sneakers, right?
Speaker: I had some 270s pro reacts.
Speaker: I don't know.
Speaker: I did a 5K in them.
Speaker: I went to the Nike store.
Speaker: He said, no, brother, don't run in them.
Speaker: I was like, you're going to get shin spots.
Speaker: I was like, yeah, my shins would tear me up because I was going off the look of my outfit that I was running in and my body was sore because I didn't have the proper shoes on.
Speaker: I'm working out.
Speaker: Then I go to the gym.
Speaker: I'm training in running shoes when I need training shoes.
Speaker: You know, and the right shoes support your posture, your joints, and everything about your whole body.
Speaker: So get understanding people.
Speaker: Listen to Matt.
Speaker: He knows what he's talking about.
Speaker: He's successful.
Speaker: I got one more question.
Speaker: We got rapid fire and then we get out of here.
Speaker: Last question.
Speaker: What does success mean to you?
Speaker: And what is a miracle?
Speaker: I guess that's two questions.
Speaker: from your perspective?
Speaker: Success and a miracle.
Speaker: Yeah, success and freedom sort of have similar definitions to me.
Speaker: To me, they're one in the same.
Speaker: Success is being free to do what you want to do and not having to set the alarm in the morning.
Speaker: I like that.
Speaker: That's freedom and that's success to me.
Speaker: And I think they're one in the same.
Speaker: I think in order to be successful, you need freedom.
Speaker: And so I think success and freedom go one in the same because I don't believe that you can have success, but I don't consider it success unless it's your success.
Speaker: Like you can be successful at a job you hate, but that's not real success.
Speaker: That's you just making more money.
Speaker: Great point.
Speaker: I like that.
Speaker: And a miracle to me, I don't know if I've ever been asked that before.
Speaker: I think, give me a second to think about it.
Speaker: I think a miracle,
Speaker: is when something that others have told you is impossible happens.
Speaker: Jamie Tworkowski I like that.
Speaker: Jamie Tworkowski That's what I think a miracle is.
Speaker: Jamie Tworkowski When something that others have said this cannot happen, it's impossible when it happens.
Speaker: I think that's a miracle.
Speaker: Jamie Tworkowski I love that.
Speaker: That was a great explanation.
Speaker: Alright, so last segment, rapid fire.
Speaker: I'm gonna say two words, you can give me whatever.
Speaker: You gotta pick one or two, either one.
Speaker: There's no right or wrong, just whatever you think.
Speaker: You ready?
Speaker: Yep.
Speaker: LA summer or Toronto summer?
Speaker: Why you gotta do me like that?
Speaker: Toronto summer for sure.
Speaker: Got it.
Speaker: Vince Carter Raptors or Kawhi Leonard Raptors?
Speaker: Why are you doing this to me?
Speaker: I got it.
Speaker: Oh man.
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: OVO Fest or Trinidad Carnival?
Speaker: I'm done with this.
Speaker: I'm done with this interview.
Speaker: I got to be Trinidad.
Speaker: Nikes or Yeezys?
Speaker: Checks over stripes.
Speaker: That's what we like.
Speaker: Hey, I like that.
Speaker: And on that tip, hold up.
Speaker: Have you ever seen this?
Speaker: No, I haven't.
Speaker: I think I saw like parts of it.
Speaker: That's why I was like, and I was trying to form these questions.
Speaker: Like, I don't know if he had Yeez.
Speaker: I know he has Nike's.
Speaker: No, no, no.
Speaker: Literally when he came out with Checks over stripes, that's what we like.
Speaker: I got rid of all my Yeezys.
Speaker: That was it.
Speaker: wow but i i don't think you've seen my grails i just got to show you this real quick because i got nowhere to wear it yeah these are the college dropout baits wow these are 2006 these are kanye's first move into the sneaker game these are very close you're gonna sell them what's that you holding them are you gonna sell them um i actually wear these believe it or not really i shouldn't but i i wear them from time to time i got the red octobers yeah i like those these are do you know the shoe surgeon
Speaker: Yeah, I know a t-shirt.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: He made these for me.
Speaker: These are Freddy Krueger's.
Speaker: Damn.
Speaker: I feel like you can't even wear those shoes.
Speaker: They so nice.
Speaker: Bruh, I'm ready to though.
Speaker: Like even the detail on the inside, it's like his skin.
Speaker: Yeah, he's a genius with the shoes.
Speaker: Dude, look at these Chicago Reds.
Speaker: These are North Pole Chicago Reds.
Speaker: I like that.
Speaker: So the question is why don't you start a sneaker blog, man?
Speaker: I didn't know you had any sneakers.
Speaker: You should start a sneaker blog on YouTube.
Speaker: Well, I have an Instagram account called sneaker maniac, but I didn't keep it up because it was going to be like the next like complex thing in my mind.
Speaker: But I just didn't have the resources to keep it up.
Speaker: But dude, this all happened because in LA when I was in LA, I had never owned a pair of J's in my life.
Speaker: Yeah, in my girl, my ex girl, I think you met her way back in the day, Sabrina, I don't know if you've ever met.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: But like way back in the day we dated is she got me my first pair of J's and there were a
Speaker: a pair of gray, just plain gray J's.
Speaker: And that was like, it was like giving like a drug dealer giving up a little bit free.
Speaker: And then dude, that was it.
Speaker: Like I just discovered this whole world and this whole culture and like sneakers are like a whole thing.
Speaker: And you know, they're, they're kind of catching on in Toronto, but nothing like LA.
Speaker: Like when I was in LA, oh man, that was, that's the only reason I showed you that was because, um,
Speaker: I don't have anywhere to wear them.
Speaker: Like I haven't worn any of those in a year from the pandemic.
Speaker: So like, you know, that's why I bought them, right?
Speaker: To wear them and have fun with them.
Speaker: And like, I can't, I can't even do that.
Speaker: So you got to do a photo shoot, bro.
Speaker: You should do a sneaker photo shoot.
Speaker: I threw on my Instagram.
Speaker: If anyone checks out my Instagram, there's like a couple photos from maybe like a year ago that I took in LA, just like me in front of them.
Speaker: Like that's about it, man.
Speaker: So last question before we get out of here, happy and married or happy and rich?
Speaker: Oh, happy and married 100%.
Speaker: Easy, right?
Speaker: Yeah, no, that's easy.
Speaker: Because like I told you, I've had money, and I've not had money.
Speaker: But I'll tell you right now, I'd much rather be happy without money.
Speaker: And again, there's gonna be people that are like, yeah, but like, I'm struggling and like,
Speaker: Trust me, trust me, man.
Speaker: Like listen to anyone that has money.
Speaker: Why do you think there's more depressed billionaires in the world than not?
Speaker: Like there's a reason for that.
Speaker: So what do you have going on?
Speaker: I know you're on TikTok, I know you're on Twitter, like YouTube.
Speaker: Can you just kind of just spaz it out and just let it out so people can
Speaker: See and here?
Speaker: Yeah, yeah.
Speaker: Honestly, just check me out on YouTube.
Speaker: I'm on everything.
Speaker: You can follow me on Instagram if you want, but I'm not here to promote anything.
Speaker: You just, you know, I'm just grateful for the conversation.
Speaker: But if you want to check me out, just go to search Matthew Santoro on YouTube, watch some videos.
Speaker: That's enough for me.
Speaker: I'm on Twitch every day.
Speaker: That's a big thing I'm trying to build up right now.
Speaker: I've been on there for like six months to pass the time.
Speaker: It's a lot of fun.
Speaker: Do you do any Twitch?
Speaker: No, I don't.
Speaker: Twitch is like you just have people watching you do whatever you do, right?
Speaker: So it used to be just a game streaming service, but now it's everything.
Speaker: So you can do like just chatting is a big category, which is literally what we're doing now.
Speaker: people like irl like walking outside like streaming outside it's it's crazy man the community on there is my favorite community on anything i do online right now they're so supportive and like it's just a lot of fun and the reason i started was to pass the time because i was going crazy in lockdown like i'm a single guy i got my two cats here but like i can't talk to them so you know i did it did it just to have people to talk to and i started streaming like eight hours a day just to pass the time and now it's become
Speaker: Like the community on there so good, man.
Speaker: Like we support each other and we all know each other's names.
Speaker: And like, dude, I'm telling you, you would kill on there, dude, especially like doing these talks.
Speaker: Honestly, I think you're limiting your, I think you should actually jump from Instagram.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: to Twitch or simultaneously do both because Instagram is a dying platform.
Speaker: It's definitely reached its peak.
Speaker: When they replaced the notification button with the shop button, that's when I knew it was over.
Speaker: Because now it's about sales, it's about money.
Speaker: And honestly, and as you know, they destroyed organic reach, right?
Speaker: No one gets likes anymore.
Speaker: That's just the way it is, right?
Speaker: Going live, like you got 30 people in here, that's a lot of people, but I'm telling you, man, start going live on Twitch, people, let's talk offline.
Speaker: And I'll tell you, like, you already got the lighting situation down as I see.
Speaker: So like, you already know the basics, but I'll give you some tips and tricks.
Speaker: I've been doing it for six months now.
Speaker: And I've got like 9,100 followers right now, which is pretty dope after six months.
Speaker: But watch, you watch, you remember this broadcast, 9,100 followers after six months, six months from now, I'll have like a million followers.
Speaker: Yeah, I believe.
Speaker: Because that's what happens.
Speaker: It's all boom.
Speaker: It all happens at once.
Speaker: And thank you for those books because I got to go back and read the tipping point.
Speaker: you know it's a great book but i need to reiterate it and read it again and um thank you for your time have a beautiful weekend be safe continue to evolve and grow progress equals happiness and uh peace peace and love my brother and gratitude thank you once again brother thank you for having me i'll talk to you yeah peace matthew santoro follow him he's amazing on all platforms twitter instagram youtube
Speaker: That's incredible.
Speaker: I mean, 6 million subscribers.
Speaker: He's going to give me some advice on Twitch.
Speaker: Let's get it.
Speaker: I got to go.
Speaker: I got a busy day.
Speaker: You guys be great.
Speaker: This video will go up on my page.
Speaker: Check it out.
Speaker: Listen to it.
Speaker: Get some inspiration.
Speaker: Get some motivation.
Speaker: Get some information to change the situation.
Speaker: God knows what he's talking about.
Speaker: We out.
Speaker: Peace, love, and gratitude.
