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S1-E38 : Wildcard Wednesday! Arsenal's... Worst 11!
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It's Wildcard Wednesday, and we are nothing if loyasl to our listeners. We promised you the worst combined Arsenal 11, and here it is! The boys have some pretty opinionated thoughts, do you agree? Be sure to let us know in this hilarious half hour of chaos!
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Transcript
00:00:09
officialgspn
Hello, and welcome to the Daily Arsenal Podcast, brought to you as part of the Global Sports Podcast Network. It's Wild Card Wednesday and honouring our pledge from last week. After having brought you our ultimate Arsenal 11, we're going to switch it right around and look at the worst possible Arsenal 11 of the Premier League era and joining me in What was quite hard in selecting a couple of positions is Jamie Patterson and Joshua Duncan. Gents, how are we doing?
00:00:44
Jamie
yeah well all good thank you all good I mean just I was just looking at JD's facial expressions during your intro and he's he's buzzing he can't wait to get it he's probably been looking forward to this podcast for quite a while so yeah good JD
00:00:59
Josh D
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, literally I've been looking forward to that. I think I had sleepless nights of it. I was thinking, I think, well, I don't want to put your names on there, but I had a dream about one of our players and I was just like, and I worked within the morning, I was just like, why am I thinking about this guy?
00:01:13
Jamie
Oh, Dom.
00:01:14
officialgspn
I pushed him away from my thoughts but he's back so there was a couple of ways we could have done this we could have done the worst 10 signs but we're going to actually match the format that we did last week we're going to build an 11 of terrible arsenal players and just to put this out there because it could be construed as really negative this thing this is personal This is perfectly personal.
00:01:37
officialgspn
These players have made us feel terrible at one point or another. And so if anything, this is our revenge. So, gentlemen, there's only one place we can start. We're going to start where we started last week, the goalkeeping position.
00:01:49
officialgspn
Now, has anybody got a name they'd like to throw out as the worst goalkeeper that Arsenal have had during the Premier League?
00:01:54
Josh D
I did. yeah
00:01:55
officialgspn
oh yeah All Josh, hit me. What have you got?
00:02:02
Josh D
I don't think he's the worst, but he definitely shouldn't be the number one and he was there for way too long. I'm going to say Armunia.
00:02:08
officialgspn
Almunia. I thought that might be coming when he said he was number one for way too long.
00:02:11
Jamie
yeah wow that really says a lot um do you know what a name that sprung to mind would have been like a likes the likes of like maybe a veto manone or something or
00:02:12
officialgspn
Manuel Almunia. Yeah, 100 games for us. 43 clean sheets in six years. Which is... When he put it like that, it's shockingly bad.
00:02:23
Josh D
ah fishshroom
00:02:27
officialgspn
Jamie, have you got any other suggestions for the goalkeeping position?
00:02:38
officialgspn
Mmm, he...
00:02:39
Josh D
Oh, wow. Probably hard.
00:02:41
Jamie
Yeah.
00:02:43
officialgspn
Oh,
00:02:43
Jamie
Yeah. Like, we're we're talking worst here. ah I'm going down that route with Vito Mononay.
00:02:49
officialgspn
oh there are some rabbit holes that we can fall down. Avito Menone is one of them.
00:02:52
Jamie
Yep.
00:02:53
officialgspn
Do you know how many goals he played for us? In the prem.
00:02:56
Jamie
In the frame, I'm probably going to say like three or four.
00:02:56
Josh D
When?
00:03:01
officialgspn
It was 15.
00:03:03
Jamie
Wow.
00:03:03
officialgspn
And in those 15 games, he conceded 16 goals.
00:03:04
Josh D
when
00:03:08
Jamie
wow but when yeah exactly like like JD said when remember
00:03:11
Josh D
When?
00:03:12
officialgspn
I have no idea. I was just digging. i I basically, I made a list, my list of players that I can remember who upset me. Ammononia was on there and I found it on the stat website. I really trust.
00:03:23
officialgspn
15 games, 16 goals against.
00:03:25
Josh D
I remember that.
00:03:25
officialgspn
it He then went on to play for Sunderland. He played 100 games for Sunderland. Oh no, no, sorry. He played 69 games for Sunderland and conceded 100 goals.
00:03:35
Josh D
He's useless, isn't it? He's useless.
00:03:36
officialgspn
Useless.
00:03:36
Jamie
wow wow uh
00:03:38
officialgspn
So the the question here is, gents, who do we put in goal for our worst goalkeeper of the Premier League era?
00:03:39
Josh D
ah yeah
00:03:45
officialgspn
Is it Vito Menone or is it Manuel Amunia? Jamie, what's your vote?
00:03:52
officialgspn
Because there's pretty bad stats on both sides.
00:03:55
Jamie
pretty bad i mean i i think for me Oh, it's got to be Al Munya for me. I mean, it's just...
00:04:03
officialgspn
Yeah.
00:04:03
Jamie
I look back at... I think for me, the one thing that always taunts me is like the the trips to Barcelona.
00:04:10
Josh D
i
00:04:10
officialgspn
Oh God. I forgot about that.
00:04:13
Jamie
ah Yeah, no, I agree.
00:04:13
officialgspn
ah look Yeah.
00:04:14
Josh D
oh man and No, I'm definitely happy.
00:04:15
officialgspn
I'm just going to underline him now. He's definitely in. Josh, do you want to add any more to that or are you perfectly happy there?
00:04:21
Josh D
He was there way too long.
00:04:22
officialgspn
Yeah.
00:04:23
Josh D
I was frustrated with this guy, man.
00:04:23
officialgspn
Wait. Yeah.
00:04:26
Josh D
He was actually our number two became number one because we couldn't afford anyone.
00:04:26
officialgspn
Now,
00:04:29
officialgspn
Yeah, that was it.
00:04:29
Jamie
Basically.
00:04:30
officialgspn
And it was useless. The the next position, I don't know about you boys, I struggled with this one a little bit.
00:04:32
Jamie
Yeah.
00:04:35
officialgspn
Right back. and We're going for four at the back like we did last week.
00:04:38
Jamie
OK.
00:04:38
officialgspn
Right back I struggled with a little bit. I had two names that I thought of, but Josh is smiling with so much anticipation.
00:04:45
Jamie
Let him start this.
00:04:46
officialgspn
I wonder if it's one of the names I came up with. Josh, you go for it.
00:04:46
Josh D
yeah
00:04:50
Josh D
Well, if the guy had a dream about it, by actually while I was thinking about it.
00:04:53
Jamie
Oh no.
00:04:53
Josh D
It's Justin Justin Hoyt.
00:04:54
officialgspn
Who was it, sorry?
00:04:54
Jamie
Oh no.
00:04:58
Josh D
Justin Hoyt.
00:04:59
Jamie
Oh.
00:04:59
officialgspn
Oh my god.
00:05:01
Josh D
Yeah, useless.
00:05:03
officialgspn
Oh wow.
00:05:05
Josh D
He was very fast, though.
00:05:05
officialgspn
That is a justin that is ah that's a blast from the past, that one.
00:05:06
Josh D
He was very fast. I'll give him that.
00:05:09
Jamie
Wow.
00:05:10
Josh D
yeah
00:05:12
officialgspn
My word.
00:05:12
Josh D
I remember him and I hated this guy with a passion. ah You think I hate habits, I just in home, you know, I'm pretty sure film me tree you probably will punch me, you know what I mean?
00:05:20
officialgspn
Man, that is a throwback. Jamie, did you have anybody in the right back position?
00:05:24
Jamie
I was really, I'll be honest, I was really struggling for right back.
00:05:27
officialgspn
the See, the only two I could really come up with were Carl Jenkinson and Matthew Debouchi.
00:05:28
Jamie
but
00:05:32
Jamie
Oh my gosh, actually. Yeah.
00:05:34
Josh D
lawyer yeah which
00:05:35
officialgspn
But.
00:05:35
Jamie
Do you know what? I think for me that actually sparks one for me. Yeah. Cole Jenkinson.
00:05:42
officialgspn
Yeah.
00:05:42
Jamie
You know, you know, you do know he's still playing football, right?
00:05:44
officialgspn
Yeah.
00:05:45
Josh D
Who did they play for?
00:05:47
Jamie
Do you know where, do you know, do you know where?
00:05:47
officialgspn
It's. I don't off the top of my head.
00:05:49
Josh D
I think one in it. I feel like I saw them on the day.
00:05:51
Jamie
Well, he's recently just joined Bromley FC who are in league two.
00:05:58
Josh D
Wow.
00:05:58
officialgspn
What, Bromley, who got spanked by United a couple of weeks ago? Wow, he's that was Barnsley.
00:06:03
Josh D
Wasn't that Barnsley? Yeah, that was Barnsley.
00:06:06
officialgspn
Why did I think it was Bromley?
00:06:06
Jamie
you're You're thinking of Barnsley, yeah?
00:06:08
officialgspn
It's been a long day. this the third this is my third This is my third record of the day.
00:06:11
Jamie
Nah.
00:06:13
officialgspn
My head's just gone at this point.
00:06:15
Josh D
that
00:06:15
officialgspn
I mean, i I don't think we can look past Josh's, I'll be honest, because I didn't even think of that man, but that is a shout.
00:06:20
Jamie
I think for me, yeah.
00:06:20
officialgspn
And hey and I quite...
00:06:21
Jamie
No, Hoyt, yeah, absolutely has got to go up there for me. Absolutely has to go up there for me.
00:06:27
Josh D
Did he have a brother?
00:06:27
officialgspn
I quite liked Jenko as well, you know, he was he was a nice guy.
00:06:31
Josh D
Was it Gavin Huyt?
00:06:31
officialgspn
i gavin I think he did, you know, we we did this in the last pod that me and Jamie did.
00:06:31
Jamie
who Gavin hoy I was thinking about I was thinking of Gavin Hoyt yes so i same same here yeah no I'm sure Gavin Hoyt was um no he didn't I can
00:06:32
Josh D
yeah
00:06:38
officialgspn
I'm going to be doing some hardcore Googling during the break to get some stats on Justin and Gavin.
00:06:45
Josh D
Did Huyt be a yes-back? Or were you a right-back as well?
00:06:48
officialgspn
No,
00:06:51
Josh D
I can't remember where you played. You didn't play that often, did you?
00:06:54
officialgspn
no.
00:06:56
officialgspn
Oh my god, is he still playing? No, no, no, he's not. He's not still playing. His last game was FC Cincinnati. He was playing for Hoyt.
00:07:04
Josh D
That might.
00:07:05
Jamie
wow
00:07:06
officialgspn
Yeah, in the MLS, he was playing for Cincinnati.
00:07:07
Josh D
wow
00:07:08
officialgspn
But yeah, he was right back.
00:07:08
Jamie
Wow.
00:07:10
officialgspn
We'll put him at right back. So Justin Hoyt is in there. Now, centre-backs, I had a few for this. i I want to put one out in particular. It's a double letter name.
00:07:21
officialgspn
Sebastian Skilache was absolutely, absolutely torrid player.
00:07:24
Jamie
Yes.
00:07:24
Josh D
I knew I knew it.
00:07:27
Jamie
You read my mind, Squelachi, all day long. Yes.
00:07:34
officialgspn
ah Were there any others that jumped to your minds? I've got a few more, but I think Skilache is the standout.
00:07:39
Josh D
Yeah, 100%.
00:07:39
Jamie
Oh!
00:07:40
officialgspn
Yeah.
00:07:41
Josh D
I've
00:07:42
Jamie
Was he a centre-back? He wasn't a centre-back though, was he?
00:07:45
officialgspn
Who are you?
00:07:45
Josh D
got two, but I let you guys.
00:07:46
Jamie
I was thinking of...
00:07:46
officialgspn
who
00:07:47
Jamie
I don't know if he was a...
00:07:47
Josh D
I let you guys.
00:07:48
Jamie
I don't know if he was a centre-back, but Stefan Lichstein.
00:07:52
Josh D
Wasn't he a left back?
00:07:54
officialgspn
I think he was left back.
00:07:54
Jamie
Was he left-back or right-back?
00:07:56
Josh D
He might have been right back.
00:07:56
officialgspn
But he's one to keep in the bank for left back.
00:07:58
Josh D
I can't remember, you know.
00:07:59
Jamie
I can't remember neither.
00:07:59
officialgspn
We can keep him in the bank for left back because he was terrible. Josh, who?
00:08:02
Josh D
But he wasn't using a lot, though. He wasn't using a lot, to be fair.
00:08:04
officialgspn
Yeah, he was.
00:08:05
Jamie
Yeah.
00:08:05
officialgspn
Yeah, he had a rough run of it. Josh, who are your two?
00:08:09
Josh D
ah Well, there's Cenderos.
00:08:11
officialgspn
Yes, I mean, yeah, let's send a Russell.
00:08:12
Jamie
Ooooh yeah!
00:08:14
Josh D
Cenderos. And ah what is this guy's name again? He's Switzerland's black fella.
00:08:19
officialgspn
Oh, God.
00:08:20
Josh D
Oh, what's your name? It's also with D.
00:08:23
officialgspn
Oh, Giroux.
00:08:24
Jamie
Y-you!
00:08:24
Josh D
That's it, dude.
00:08:25
officialgspn
Johann Giroux.
00:08:25
Josh D
Yeah, that's it. Yeah.
00:08:27
Jamie
Yohanjuru!
00:08:28
Josh D
That's useless.
00:08:29
officialgspn
Jamie.
00:08:30
Josh D
Absolute crap.
00:08:31
officialgspn
Jamie, he was crap.
00:08:32
Jamie
Wow! Wow!
00:08:34
officialgspn
John and Giroux terrible.
00:08:35
Jamie
Sh-do you know what? I-I'm glad you brought that up because it was another one that was in my mind as well!
00:08:40
officialgspn
I also had Skodran Mustafie in there.
00:08:41
Jamie
Wow! Same.
00:08:44
Josh D
Yeah, it was pretty rubbish as well.
00:08:45
officialgspn
He was pretty rubbish.
00:08:46
Jamie
Same.
00:08:47
Josh D
I feet think those guys edgy a bit more than her.
00:08:50
officialgspn
Yeah. Do you know, do you know what?
00:08:50
Jamie
Yeah.
00:08:52
Josh D
Who'd you go for though?
00:08:52
officialgspn
I didn't, I, I'm going to side with Jrew.
00:08:54
Jamie
Same.
00:08:56
Josh D
It's all mine. it
00:08:57
officialgspn
I think Jrew.
00:08:57
Jamie
Same here. Same here.
00:09:01
officialgspn
Josh, we voted against a lot of your picks for the ultimate 11, but when it comes to the worst 11, you are nailing this list.
00:09:06
Jamie
Absolutely.
00:09:07
officialgspn
so
00:09:08
Jamie
Absolutely.
00:09:09
Josh D
These guys gave me nightmares.
00:09:10
officialgspn
johan she
00:09:11
Josh D
They still gave me nightmares today. I remember watching also, it was painful to watch them.
00:09:13
officialgspn
Oh, well.
00:09:16
Josh D
They used to play in the Carlin Cup when it used to be one of the League Cup, with the Carlin Cup back when I was in Ireland.
00:09:18
Jamie
Mmm Gosh the card and cup Yeah Same was my first one as well
00:09:20
officialgspn
Yeah.
00:09:21
Josh D
Yeah, and these guys used to start, and I used to watch it, and I'd just be like, this is terrible. Our youth is horrible.
00:09:26
officialgspn
Just seething in your seat, just wishing anything ill upon them. Well, if, I mean, if we had choices for Cenobax, we got some choices for left backs. I'm going to read out three names that I came up with here.
00:09:37
officialgspn
Andres Santos.
00:09:38
Josh D
That's my first one.
00:09:42
officialgspn
Sayed Kalazanach.
00:09:44
Josh D
Yeah.
00:09:44
officialgspn
And Nuno Tavares.
00:09:48
Josh D
nina ah
00:09:50
officialgspn
Yeah, I might be being a bit harsh, but andre so yeah Andre Santos was the one.
00:09:50
Jamie
No for me, I'm sorry Yeah Do you know what I don't understand do you know what else I don't understand was did you see do you remember his shirt number?
00:09:50
Josh D
I'm just going to go. This is going to get dirty.
00:09:58
officialgspn
like
00:09:59
Josh D
What is he doing as well?
00:10:06
Josh D
Wasn't that sound stupid like a stupid number? Was it not a 12? I can't remember what it was now.
00:10:11
Jamie
I'm sure it was a stupid number. I would, when we get into the ad break, I'm going to, I'm going to research that up and i I will fight. I'll let you know in the next part, but I'm sure he was given like a number 11 or something or something ridiculous.
00:10:24
Josh D
It was a tacking number this year.
00:10:24
officialgspn
There's going to be some, yeah.
00:10:26
Jamie
I think it was like a number 11 or 31.
00:10:26
Josh D
It was a tacking number.
00:10:29
Jamie
I need to have a look and in the ad break, but we'll, I'll dig that out and let you know in the next part.
00:10:36
officialgspn
Basically listeners, there's going to be some hardcore Googling going on in the 30 seconds that this advert runs for.
00:10:39
Jamie
Yes, indeed.
00:10:41
officialgspn
So, so far, just to confirm, our back line, well, we got Mamal and Munir and Goh, Justin Hoyt, Sebastian Scollettri, Johan Giroux and Andre Santos as a back line.
00:10:51
Jamie
Yep.
00:10:52
officialgspn
I think any team could beat them quite comfortably.
00:10:56
Jamie
I think any team could walk all over them you mean.
00:10:57
officialgspn
So far.
00:11:00
officialgspn
Well, I mean, that's our back line. We're going to take a quick break and do some real intense Googling. And we'll be back looking at the midfield options. Again, I didn't have any for this, but when we get to the forwards, oh, there's a lot of names to get through there. But we'll be back just after this message from Zencaster.
00:12:04
officialgspn
and welcome back to what has already been a very entertaining first section of Arsenal's worst ever 11.
00:12:04
Jamie
Okay. Okay.
00:12:12
officialgspn
We have a cracking back line, which we just summed up. but um Jamie, you were doing a little bit of research for us on Andre Santos's number for Arsenal. Can you give us some information on what it was?
00:12:24
Jamie
It turns out I was correct. I can even show you. It actually was number 11.
00:12:28
officialgspn
He was number 11.
00:12:29
Josh D
I live in
00:12:31
officialgspn
Number 11 for 11.
00:12:32
Jamie
Who in their mind as a left back picks number 11?
00:12:37
officialgspn
I mean, not an ideal number and also, Josh, just to just to compound your choice of Justin Hoyle.
00:12:39
Jamie
That's beyond me.
00:12:46
officialgspn
With Gail cliche injured and Ashley Cole absent from the team due to a protracted transfer to Chelsea, Hoyt began the 06-07 season as Arsenal's temporary left-back and was dropped within two games.
00:13:00
Jamie
And speaking of Hoyt, there is a Gavin Hoyt, and he would and he did play for Arsenal. He was Arsenal's right back, played four games.
00:13:11
officialgspn
The Hoyt brothers did well.
00:13:13
Josh D
I think I saw all these four games, you know, I honestly think I can always for again
00:13:16
Jamie
Goodness me. Listen, you'd get you'd get bonus points from me if you knew what four games they were.
00:13:22
officialgspn
I mean, do we want to drop Andre Santos and just have the Hoyt brothers as i both are fullbacks?
00:13:27
Jamie
Oh, that's really got me thinking now.
00:13:30
Josh D
they have
00:13:30
officialgspn
Nah, I think we're being yeah yet yeah we're we're being too cruel to the Hoyt name here, I think.
00:13:32
Josh D
no i'll try believe him because he had the number i
00:13:33
Jamie
I still think Andre Santos may.
00:13:34
Josh D
were what
00:13:38
officialgspn
yeah Now, we're going to move forward to the midfield. I only actually came up with four names for this one. I really struggle with the midfield. um Jamie, I'm going to come to you first.
00:13:49
officialgspn
Did anybody jump out to you as a terrible midfield player for Arsenal?
00:13:51
Jamie
ah
00:13:56
Jamie
oh My gosh, do you know what again even the midfield that that was a struggle for me because You look at the midfield and we've we've had a lot of good midfielders, but to really dig out midfielders I Know deep down.
00:13:56
Josh D
They were... No, I was just trying to believe him because he had a number of legs.
00:14:10
Jamie
I know Josh is sitting there and he's thinking JD sit is sitting there and he's thinking Oh, you know what? I'd give anything to stick high others in that team. I
00:14:19
Josh D
No, no, no. I want him for a minute. Well, not me.
00:14:21
officialgspn
but Josh is chomping at the bit.
00:14:23
Jamie
Wow.
00:14:23
officialgspn
Do you have anybody there, Josh?
00:14:24
Jamie
Kai, if you're listening, just just hear out Jodie. Just hear him out.
00:14:28
officialgspn
she
00:14:29
Josh D
I actually would have been fooled as well, to be fair. There's one name that does scream, and it's controversial, because he has been playing deep but for Arsenal.
00:14:34
Jamie
Go on.
00:14:36
Josh D
I thought he was useless.
00:14:38
officialgspn
Okay, go for it.
00:14:39
Josh D
Alexa will be. I never liked him.
00:14:41
officialgspn
A whoby.
00:14:41
Jamie
Ooh.
00:14:42
Josh D
I never liked him.
00:14:42
officialgspn
Ooh.
00:14:43
Josh D
I thought he was rubbish.
00:14:43
Jamie
You know what? actually
00:14:45
Josh D
I thought he was so crap.
00:14:47
officialgspn
He was.
00:14:48
Jamie
Do you know what?
00:14:48
officialgspn
but
00:14:49
Jamie
That is actually not a bad shout to be fair. I weren't, again, I'm also in the same boat here. I wasn't a a huge Uobi fan. I feel like when he came on, he didn't bring much into the game for me.
00:15:01
Jamie
So I, yeah, I mean, it's a decent shout to be fair.
00:15:06
Josh D
No one I can really think of really when I think about it.
00:15:06
officialgspn
I've, I've, okay, I've got to wipe it down.
00:15:10
Jamie
Oh, actually.
00:15:10
officialgspn
I've got a few. Oh, always Jamie had. Well, while Jamie's thinking, Oh, I'm going to mention a name which sends shivers down my spine.
00:15:12
Josh D
Cool.
00:15:13
Jamie
Oh, hold on. Yeah, go go on. I'm going to do my research again.
00:15:22
officialgspn
Kim Calstrom.
00:15:23
Jamie
oh That's exactly what I was thinking of.
00:15:27
Josh D
Yeah, oh yeah, fair enough.
00:15:28
officialgspn
kim kelstrom were admittedly again when we signed him he had a back injury and we basically said okay you can rehabilitate with us and you can play a little bit but my word he was a terrible football player he struck useless although i do
00:15:36
Jamie
oh
00:15:41
Jamie
the the only The only good thing about Kim Kaelstrom was the penalty he scored against Wigan and that was it.
00:15:41
Josh D
We were as it was. He was useless as well.
00:15:51
Josh D
I don't know.
00:15:51
officialgspn
you know what it's really interesting it's really interesting you say that because
00:15:52
Josh D
He scored.
00:15:53
Jamie
Yeah, he did. Surprisingly, yes, he did.
00:15:56
officialgspn
i was ah I was doing the classic thing that any good podcast would do, Wikipedia-ing a player. And I have a little section that I've actually copied and pasted into my show notes.
00:16:06
Josh D
Oh, all right.
00:16:07
officialgspn
He scored Arsenal's second spot kit in their 4-2 penalty shootout against Wigan, which saw them advance into the final.
00:16:12
Jamie
That was it.
00:16:14
officialgspn
Karlstrom has gone on to describe the moment as the greatest 15 minutes of my life.
00:16:21
Josh D
What a sad line.
00:16:21
officialgspn
which Which...
00:16:25
Jamie
Wait, just out of curiosity, did he did he get a winners medal?
00:16:30
officialgspn
i don't think sot think you played now
00:16:32
Jamie
I'd love to know if he got a winners medal.
00:16:33
officialgspn
to
00:16:34
Josh D
If he's got one, I definitely deserve one, you know what I mean?
00:16:34
officialgspn
so Yeah. I think, I think we got to put Kim Kelstrom in there as we're struggling.
00:16:41
Jamie
Absolutely.
00:16:41
officialgspn
Now, now the, I'd like, I like the Adobe show cause I agree with you. He was nowhere near good for us, but I have three other names that I want you to consider. Now these two of these names had good careers, but for us, I thought were rubbish.
00:16:55
officialgspn
The three names I have are Yossi Ben Ayun, Mikatarian and Lucas Torreira.
00:16:58
Jamie
Oh yeah.
00:17:02
Josh D
That's a bit harsh.
00:17:03
Jamie
Do you know what?
00:17:03
Josh D
yes I think that's a bit harsh. There's one name I'm thinking
00:17:05
Jamie
I'm gonna absolutely, I will absolutely agree on Yossi Benayoun. 100% yeah in my opinion. Terreira? I don't know.
00:17:16
Josh D
Yeah, because his first season was alright.
00:17:16
officialgspn
i
00:17:18
Josh D
His first season, he went that bad.
00:17:18
Jamie
Yeah.
00:17:19
Josh D
He went that bad.
00:17:20
officialgspn
is You're probably right.
00:17:21
Jamie
He was part of that 22 unbeaten run to be fair so.
00:17:28
officialgspn
I will give you, oh go on, go on.
00:17:28
Josh D
I've got a name. I've got a name.
00:17:30
Jamie
oh
00:17:31
Josh D
We sat him alone. I think he played a couple games.
00:17:34
Jamie
Oh.
00:17:34
Josh D
He was pretty useless. And I think it's Dennis Suarez.
00:17:37
officialgspn
Dennis Juarez, we did have him in for a little while didn't we?
00:17:38
Jamie
Oh, yes!
00:17:40
Josh D
Yeah, he was e it was he was useless he was he was useless. I remember we had the um the guy from Dortmund as our scout.
00:17:49
Jamie
I'm, uh, Sven Mislintat.
00:17:50
Josh D
i nasa And it.
00:17:50
officialgspn
Oh, yeah and we were just getting all of them in.
00:17:54
Josh D
And he was just saying them to Henry, like, this guy is not good. like We have academy players that are better than him. Don't sign him. And Henry just said, like nah, I think he's good.
00:18:04
officialgspn
I think Emory had a bit of brain fog that year because there was some very interesting signings that came out
00:18:04
Josh D
I'm going to sign him.
00:18:08
Josh D
sister yeah
00:18:11
officialgspn
So in that case, I think the midfield, I think we can limit it to two players because we can put some attacking players in attacking midfield roles. Let's just say that. So do we want to, Kim Carstram is definitely in.
00:18:21
Jamie
Yeah
00:18:21
officialgspn
So do we want to go in that case for Silva or for Awobi?
00:18:21
Josh D
yeah
00:18:26
officialgspn
Should we be controversial and go Awobi?
00:18:30
Josh D
I still don't work terrible though, it was worse. I honestly, when we saw the world with a fake, meaning I, I applaud also, I was like, and really pretty I think he just edited this for me.
00:18:37
officialgspn
yeah
00:18:38
Jamie
I'll be honest, I put a vouch i'll put a vouch for Dennis Suarez in to be fair.
00:18:39
officialgspn
That's my third highest sell.
00:18:46
officialgspn
Yeah, Dennis Suarez, it is them.
00:18:48
Jamie
yeah
00:18:48
officialgspn
Kim Kallstrom and Dennis Suarez, what midfield isn't going to tremble facing off against those two? I mean, goodness me, putting them together in a pitch would be embarrassing for Arsenal.
00:18:58
Jamie
ah do and
00:18:59
Josh D
I think United would, the way they played on on Sunday.
00:19:02
officialgspn
To be fair,
00:19:05
officialgspn
It would be a massive improvement. You've got a very fair point. Right. Okay. That's the midfield. We're going to take another quick break. And I think this next section is going to be very, very interesting because I have about eight players in the forward section.
00:19:19
officialgspn
So we'll be back just after this message from the Global Sports Podcast Network.
00:19:21
Josh D
and
00:20:00
officialgspn
Welcome back to the Daily Arsenal Podcast. It is Josh Vince, Jamie Patterson and Joshua Duncan compiling the worst Arsenal 11 to have ever played in the Premier League. So far, we have an absolutely quality match-losing team on our hands, but we need to fill out the last four positions in offensive areas. so Let's start. You know, ah I think realistically, this is the worst team that we could possibly feel. So I think we're just going to list some names and we're going to stick them in wherever we want them, because we've got to get through some of these. First of all, Josh, offensive players. Let's go for let's go for a striker. We'll start off with a striker. um Who would you like to see in this team?
00:20:45
Josh D
Well, I remember when we signed him, it was quite a while ago. I remember he was meant to be there the new fox in the box, you know, and that is the one and only Francis Jeffers.
00:20:54
officialgspn
Francis Jeffers.
00:20:57
Josh D
I will never ever forget him. He was like the Ray Rooney before Wayne Rooney. We signed him at Everton and he was injured for a bit, but he was useless. He was terrible, honestly.
00:21:06
officialgspn
He was awful. I genuinely got in my show notes Francis Jeffers in in brackets for JD. I knew it was coming. So he he was with us for four seasons. Do you want to know how many games we played boys?
00:21:20
Jamie
gone wow of course
00:21:21
officialgspn
22 then scored four goals that's one goal a season a brilliant investment I mean as I said a forward shocking I mean there's a couple of others that I want to throw out there Lucas Perez, Marouane Shamak, Lord Bentner and Yaya Senogo
00:21:21
Josh D
15? Oh, OK. OK.
00:21:36
Josh D
No.
00:21:44
Jamie
I think I think you need to add another part I think you need to add another player into that mix because there's one that's been running right in my head Ah, yes, he knows Jung Jung Park.
00:21:48
Josh D
butation no
00:21:51
Josh D
that pop guy, what was his name?
00:21:54
officialgspn
Park.
00:21:55
Jamie
Yes, Jung Jung Park Jeez
00:21:55
Josh D
Yeah, yes yeah, yeah, he was.
00:21:55
officialgspn
Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park.
00:22:07
Jamie
almighty see
00:22:08
Josh D
Yeah, he didn't really play like that. He was good on FIFA though. I mean, on FIFA, if he wanted like a cheap buy, he was like very cheap and like 79 went to like 83, I would be fine.
00:22:12
officialgspn
Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park. Park.
00:22:17
Jamie
How again?
00:22:17
officialgspn
The beauty is, of FIFA, you could find absolute gems. I remember there was a player who played for Enthold Fury FC in the Australian League called Gogolumabruthu, who had 98 pace.
00:22:22
Jamie
Yeah.
00:22:26
Jamie
Oh, my gosh.
00:22:28
Josh D
Oh, wow.
00:22:30
officialgspn
It was just a phenom! um
00:22:34
Jamie
I'm sorry, but again, with Arsenal's like allocation of squad numbers, why and how did we give Chung Young Park the number nine shirt?
00:22:41
Josh D
um man yeah um but app hit Number Yeah, Number nine, yeah.
00:22:44
officialgspn
It's madness!
00:22:45
Jamie
And again,
00:22:45
officialgspn
that's
00:22:46
Jamie
Again even with again with Lucas Perez why oh ah just no No, how could we give players like that the number nine shirt?
00:22:53
officialgspn
I mean, again again on he had a batting left hook.
00:22:57
Josh D
I don't think Bennett was that bad though, was he?
00:22:59
officialgspn
So, Benton was okay. He just gets obviously a lot of stick from Arsenal fans. So, 108 games and he got 24 goals.
00:23:03
Josh D
Is that low?
00:23:06
officialgspn
So, not...
00:23:07
Josh D
Jesus. I didn't know that bad.
00:23:08
officialgspn
Yeah.
00:23:11
officialgspn
Yeah, it was that low.
00:23:12
Josh D
I remember he's got a hatchet against Porto, if I'm mistaken.
00:23:13
officialgspn
It really was that low.
00:23:18
Jamie
Yeah Yeah
00:23:18
officialgspn
eight He did do, yes, he did. that's That came up in the ah Champions League quiz that I did a few weeks ago. But yes, he yeah he scored a hatch against Porto and that was yeah that accounted for three of his 24 goals in 108 games.
00:23:32
Josh D
No.
00:23:32
officialgspn
like but he He had a bit of a brutal time.
00:23:33
Josh D
No.
00:23:35
officialgspn
so i mean If we talk maybe a few more forwards, then maybe we could fit a few of these players into our squad.
00:23:42
Josh D
Maybe she's got a bench.
00:23:42
officialgspn
so um
00:23:45
Josh D
Some.
00:23:45
officialgspn
Oh, yeah. I mean, we also we also have wide players now.
00:23:47
Jamie
Yeah.
00:23:50
officialgspn
Is there anybody who jumps to mind for you, James?
00:23:52
Jamie
Yep.
00:23:52
officialgspn
Oh, that was quick.
00:23:53
Jamie
Yep.
00:23:53
Josh D
Oh, no.
00:23:54
Jamie
Yep. Ryo Miyachi.
00:23:56
officialgspn
He's on my list.
00:23:57
Josh D
Oh, man.
00:23:57
Jamie
Yes!
00:23:59
officialgspn
I I liked him.
00:23:59
Jamie
Ryo Miyachi!
00:24:01
officialgspn
I liked Miyachi.
00:24:03
Josh D
Real good in FIFA, but that's about it.
00:24:04
officialgspn
Again, very good. He was he was a cracking prospect player. ah for you
00:24:09
Jamie
to Just, just out of curious JD, you see, you see the place that we've mentioned? Oh, go on.
00:24:14
Josh D
Agile, yeah.
00:24:16
Jamie
a
00:24:16
officialgspn
up oh boy on yeah yeah
00:24:19
Josh D
He was rubbish, man.
00:24:20
officialgspn
a like ah I completely I that in my world!
00:24:20
Jamie
wow
00:24:24
Josh D
Well, that's right. He only came to my head right now.
00:24:26
Jamie
Wow Good shout I think that is harsh.
00:24:27
officialgspn
Oh my life! I mean, the other Y players that I've got a suggestion for, um mainly because of the price tag, Nickos Pepe.
00:24:36
Josh D
I think that's harsh.
00:24:37
officialgspn
It is hard.
00:24:38
Jamie
Yeah, I think that is harsh
00:24:38
Josh D
I think that's
00:24:38
officialgspn
It's hard. It's arguably hard. He scored 16 goals, he got nine assists in four seasons for us. And, you know, he's gone on to, I think Villareal now, and he's doing all right.
00:24:46
Josh D
harsh.
00:24:48
Jamie
Yea, he's at the Lueo now, yeah
00:24:50
officialgspn
The other one, so I was reading a few lists as well to try and get some inspiration. The other ones that were suggested, I think this next one's harsh, Willianne. I think that's very harsh.
00:25:02
Josh D
No, it's rubbish for us, man.
00:25:02
officialgspn
But he wasn't, he wasn't terrible.
00:25:06
Josh D
He's got like two goals.
00:25:08
officialgspn
True, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:25:14
officialgspn
He got he got one goal and five assists.
00:25:16
Josh D
It's funny enough, you know, William.
00:25:18
officialgspn
Yeah.
00:25:18
Josh D
It's funny enough because where I work, I work for Seahore & Co. And um one of our private bankers, one of the relationship managers, he kind of knows him.
00:25:27
officialgspn
Really?
00:25:27
Josh D
And he would basically say, that guy would do anything for money.
00:25:28
Jamie
Wow.
00:25:33
Josh D
anything for money. I think before he joined Fulham, I think he was trying to move to Saudi and he was like begging, agent not look, whatever, just get me this tool, get it.
00:25:43
officialgspn
no way that is incredible I mean it's it's remarkable he's not signed for Spurs in that case if he'll do anything for money but...
00:25:44
Josh D
Just get me this tool, I need the money.
00:25:54
officialgspn
um the
00:26:12
officialgspn
yeah
00:26:13
Josh D
He scored a free kick that game, right? Yeah, he scored a free kick that game, right?
00:26:16
officialgspn
Yeah, it was a cracking freak, if I remember right.
00:26:17
Josh D
Yeah. Yeah.
00:26:19
officialgspn
Now, the other one that was suggested on this website...
00:26:24
officialgspn
Yeah,
00:26:28
officialgspn
yeah I didn't hate Jovino.
00:26:30
Josh D
yeah I don't know.
00:26:32
officialgspn
I didn't hate him.
00:26:32
Josh D
He was frustrated though. He was frustrated to watch.
00:26:34
officialgspn
I didn't... Yeah, he was very frustrating.
00:26:35
Josh D
i mean And his hairline was terrible as well, given.
00:26:39
officialgspn
I mean, mine's a mess, but my goodness me, the size of that man's forehead
00:26:45
Josh D
He's got money. he can He can afford to fix his. He's got no excuse.
00:26:48
officialgspn
He definitely could.
00:26:51
Josh D
He looks beautiful now, isn't he?
00:26:55
Jamie
Hahaha!
00:26:56
Josh D
He became literally a builder to our model. Literally just like that.
00:27:00
Jamie
Yeah.
00:27:00
Josh D
Have you seen the Carbon Climb advert? I wouldn't be surprised.
00:27:03
officialgspn
but yeah If Rob Holden could fix his hair, how did you be the own knot? I think that but in itself should have put a bit of contention to this team.
00:27:08
Josh D
Yeah, literally.
00:27:12
officialgspn
We mentioned a lot of players there. We have four spaces to fill up. what Who is the ones that you... So Josh, who's a deal breaker? Who has to go in this worst 11 of the players that we've mentioned?
00:27:24
officialgspn
Yeah.
00:27:24
Josh D
Well, I did have Francis Jeffers, but this logo there, there's an it's hard to pick.
00:27:27
officialgspn
yeah
00:27:30
Josh D
It's really hard to pick.
00:27:31
officialgspn
This is harder than the ultimate 11.
00:27:32
Josh D
They're all terrible.
00:27:34
officialgspn
This is harder.
00:27:36
Josh D
They're all terrible. like None of them are good.
00:27:40
officialgspn
How about this? I'm gonna make a suggestion here. We do four, so two up front and then two just off them supporting them so we can basically stick four Strygers in. I would go Sanogo and Jeffers as the front two.
00:27:58
Josh D
Didn't it look so funny? Mr. so Nogo, he was like, he was hired more than Popeye at one point, as in he was the next little guy and then only signed him and he was just useless, like he just couldn't kick a football.
00:28:04
officialgspn
Yeah.
00:28:05
Jamie
He was.
00:28:09
Josh D
like or have Does that count?
00:28:10
officialgspn
Absolutely fucking.
00:28:17
officialgspn
I feel like...
00:28:17
Josh D
It's pre-season, isn't it?
00:28:20
officialgspn
I don't think anybody's ever counted the Emirates Cup as anything. I'll be honest with you. it It's basically, hi Arsenal. There you go.
00:28:31
officialgspn
There's one for you. That's what that's the whole point of it. So are we happy with those two leading the line? I mean, happy is a strong word. Oh yeah.
00:28:43
officialgspn
That's the thing.
00:28:44
Josh D
I'm pretty sure he was signed for commercial reasons. He wasn't signed for football talent.
00:28:47
officialgspn
No, he he can't have been, especially, do you know what? Actually, given the number nine, that makes sense as well.
00:28:54
Josh D
Yeah.
00:28:54
officialgspn
So do we go? Here's the question. Josh, you've, you've got to pick park or Francis.
00:29:03
Jamie
Oh, that's what I'm thinking.
00:29:07
Josh D
the
00:29:10
Josh D
I don't know. I'm going to say Francis Jeffers, because I remember the sign when I was young.
00:29:15
officialgspn
Yeah.
00:29:15
Josh D
I remember there was a big hype with him. He'd be the next fox in the box. And we were streaming out. For some reason, we were streaming out of Stryker because school goes in the box. I don't know why. But we were streaming out to get Stryker in the box. And I remember there was a big hype with him.
00:29:26
Josh D
And he was supposed to Ooh. do something. He didn't. With Park was a bit of like, well, who is he? The-
00:29:32
officialgspn
Yeah.
00:29:32
Josh D
Do you know what I mean? Do you know what I mean? if
00:29:33
officialgspn
make Maybe we put Park, maybe we put Park just behind them in that case.
00:29:35
Josh D
we funded by
00:29:39
officialgspn
we We'll put Park just behind those two up front, which means we have one position left to fill. Another sort of just off the attacker. So I'd argue that maybe somebody like a William or a Perez could fit in there perhaps.
00:29:55
Josh D
I didn't hate parents.
00:29:58
officialgspn
Oh, I feel so sorry for the kid. I don't know why. He's got a special place in my heart, as we owe him actually, but if you outvote me, I will accept it. Josh, who are you thinking?
00:30:09
Jamie
What are you thinking JD?
00:30:11
Josh D
I think we're actually, he wasn't the only near the first team. So he's more like a kid that has never made it, which is probably loads of them.
00:30:14
officialgspn
No, he wasn't, was he? No.
00:30:19
Josh D
We forgot someone, you know? I forgot the middle of Denilson.
00:30:25
officialgspn
Oh, Danilson!
00:30:27
Josh D
but and
00:30:32
officialgspn
Danilson! Danilson, my God!
00:30:35
Josh D
ahead Right now, yeah, the Nelson ah I Yeah,
00:30:38
officialgspn
Right, sorry, I'm happy to put Danilson straight in and we just have 4-3-3, I'm very happy with that, I don't know about you two, because Danilson was atrocious. but Right, that's it.
00:30:52
officialgspn
he Oh my God, he was awful!
00:30:54
Josh D
you will
00:30:54
officialgspn
Absolutely shocking, I mean, that's we've done it. we have We have created the official ultimate worst 11 of Arsenal's Premier League history.
00:31:07
officialgspn
It goes.
00:31:07
Josh D
why Why was this so hard?
00:31:09
officialgspn
It was so hard.
00:31:11
Josh D
Last time it wasn't so bad, but this has been...
00:31:11
Jamie
Yeah,
00:31:13
Josh D
I really have to think about this.
00:31:16
Jamie
same.
00:31:17
officialgspn
like
00:31:17
Josh D
Some of them are awesome, isn't it?
00:31:19
officialgspn
i mean I was thinking sort of like, I don't know if i've I've got the heart to be really harsh about these players, but then I kind of remembered watching them and it got a lot easier.
00:31:29
Josh D
They ruined my childhood.
00:31:29
officialgspn
Yeah, so the like, in that case, the lineup for the worst Arsenal 11 of the Premier League era.
00:31:32
Josh D
They ruined my childhood.
00:31:41
officialgspn
In goal, Manuel, the legend himself, Almunia. Along the back line, Justin Hoyt, Sebastian Scalacci, Johan Giroux and Andre number 11 Santos.
00:31:55
officialgspn
In midfield, Kim Colstrom, Dennis Suarez, and Danielson. An amazing last introduction. And finally, going up front, getting us all the zero goals in every game, we have Francis Jeffers, Park Chuyang, and Yaya Sanogo. Gentlemen, I think we've done something remarkable there. More than those players ever did. That's for sure.
00:32:24
Josh D
Oh, gosh.
00:32:25
officialgspn
I mean, this has been an absolute joy, gents. Thank you very much for all of your input. ah We hope that you enjoyed and agreed. And if you're listening any of those 11, do you know what? Be insulted. You upset us when we were kids. Sod it.
00:32:39
officialgspn
yeah
00:32:44
Josh D
I have nightmares over it.
00:32:46
officialgspn
yeah He's literally had nightmares.
00:32:47
Josh D
It's giving me cost issues.
00:32:51
officialgspn
Well, I think that's it for the daily hours of the podcast. I'm not sure we'll ever top this. I'll be honest. I think we've created the ultimate in footballing prowess. I've been your host, Josh Vince. I have been delighted to be joined by Jamie Patterson and Josh Duncan. Thank you so much for listening and we'll see you very soon. Until then, take care and goodbye.