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Odc. 64 - Ten w którym design miesza się z vtubbingiem

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289 plays · May 14, 2026

Frota wraca po trzytygodniowym urlopie w Japonii, Monika – po 58-godzinnym wypadzie na Milan Design Week. Z Tokio Frota przywozi relację z VTuber Expo [https://www.vtuber-expo.com/en] w Akihabarze, obserwacje o niszyzacji japońskiej popkultury i (oczywiście!) refleksję. Monika opowiada o Mediolanie, który zamienił się w arenę walki pomiędzy brandami. Od debiutu Gucci, przez sakralną prezentację lampy Aesop w kaplicy, po polską wystawę modernizmu w kultowym Torre Velasca, każda z obecnych marek chce się czymś wyróżnić. Na koniec oczywiście zapowiedź: za tydzień spotkanie na żywo na InfoShare w Gdańsku z prezentacją „10 sygnałów, które pozwolą odnaleźć się w nowej technologiczno-biznesowej przyszłości". Więcej materiałów znajdziesz pod tym linkiem [https://wycinkizprzyszlosci.pl/2026/05/14/%f0%9f%93%9a-odc-64-ten-w-ktorym-design-miesza-sie-z-vtubbingiem/]. 

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Monika Borycka: Good morning, welcome to second part is part of the Antenna.

Monika real: Monika Boric, Trend Radar.

Monika real: We should able to reach two times to this presentation.

Monika Borycka: where is

Monika Borycka: It's the best evidence that, first, there is no longer a long time, and then there is no longer a long time in the end. And so Monika then ends up, that the person remembers the podcast that he does.

Monika Borycka: interactro to the podcast to thatre tri some prova virginia

Monika real: Yes, exactly. But the we still materialize together together, on na manjaimmo which usual washvi no wash shevisa teja not tamo number what the the

Monika Borycka: O życiu.

Monika real: yeah

Monika Borycka: Nie, a serio. Będzie o życiu. Będzie o życiu biznesie. A już tak serio, już bez przysłowiowej Becky. i też takich, które mają bardzo mocne odbicie albo

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Monika real: which can be in a business. We have a pretty good title presentation, 10 signals that us find out in the future. I thought that he is for a long Joanna, my dear.

Monika real: that is not long as the the the

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Monika real: Now, short by Netflix.

Monika Borycka: vice elite

Monika real: nor so used

Monika Borycka: Exactly, so, 10-second episode of serial, so I think that maybe the is

Monika Borycka: Just to and opinion is from 2-3 years ago, that the impreza is not a bad thing.

Monika Borycka: I feel like she was a little bit of was a very nice game of prelegenters from different people.

Monika Borycka: don't want to drop it but Aga Samitowska, my co-founder ZX, who music in music tech. There will be another podcast, which is a the the a

Monika real: Maybe. Maybe. going see you.

Monika Borycka: no

Monika real: just to

Monika Borycka: Rafał Konieczny, Sonic Branding, kurczę, no masa w ogóle, ale też taka, wiesz, rozpiętość tych tematów.

Monika real: na ah

Monika Borycka: Z jednej strony masz Sonic Branding, a z drugiej strony masz na

Monika real: po tej agendzie, to zresztą edycja jubileuszowa, więc też no, musiało być...

Monika Borycka: Maybe why it's so much? Arthur Kurasiński!

Monika real: It was a big thing, but looking at Jacek Dukaj, Piotr Konieczny...

Monika Borycka: All the technology,

Monika real: o

Monika real: Yes, in sum it's true. And ah zamaskovan the

Monika Borycka: Psycho.

Monika real: the qua yeah since

Monika Borycka: No, no, no,

Monika real: rightrokaal a success wo suma and talk tack ta navatum

Monika Borycka: so go gymna zina nelata ne letters from yesterday younechada chiose mi mosato let nianev and saboestto narav the mission next in foright of a gri us samapluo

Monika real: I don't know.

Monika real: Same plusy, and

Monika Borycka: i'm aloive

Monika real: and rupoovanium tagoar a blu mina ni bewa a let just um the the

Monika real: I want to tell you about two of these two trips. My frot is and so

Monika Borycka: private, it was private, it was like always. don't know if I

Monika Borycka: was in the most interesting place, because I spent about three days in Japan, in a very modern destination, but yes, was also in a modern place, but because I was a little bit more than my second half, because was in my

Monika Borycka: We were not. were not. We were not. We were. We were done research by the second half. I not <unk> paid its so hi to

Monika Borycka: To jest w ogóle moja Anemoya, to jest miejsce, którym mam masę wspomnień, mimo że byłam w nim dopiero trzeci raz. e crarian guroco I

Monika real: There are some kind of central handlers? Okay.

Monika Borycka: You can buy a console, a cable, cable, a electronic, to, what was it, Ola, Boga, it was now just death.

Monika Borycka: a little bit concerned about Akihabara is the wall, so you have music. I'm like, I'm like, I'm from urlopu, I was physically and physically, I wanted to have another week of urlopu, but it doesn't work.

Monika Borycka: But it's a I of and minynimi yaviunna toytorohe trohe I think that's a little bit of own, which I'm also podcasting, I'm going to ask my friend who asked me about field research, because I'm on the floor, and I can't do anything else, I can't do anything else, I can't do anything else, I can't do anything else, I can't do anything else, I can't do anything else, I do anything else, I can't do anything else, can't do anything else,

Monika Borycka: my ah moa de agnoszaackaes nishiza nishazaia do faderrato much optionte tay ever green chiies And so Dragon Ball, One Piece, now even Idolmaster, which is this, I don't want know Idolmaster.

Monika Borycka: But, I don't know, the to anime, gaming, and all the pop culture is from the world.

Monika Borycka: Really. And this was my the Expo.

Monika Borycka: We recorded a video of VTuber, so I'm going to invite you to do it, so going to invite you to do it.

Monika real: Yes, I will be the link in all the time.

Monika Borycka: a

Monika real: mu mimoam jebjitu bag to take gushmantaas shija is fortom So hai che isanna but we and the some ofpost statueif of of v gerrovanne to deshnimayon <unk>ton niakovium protoplastota ah ah auto to share context the da shi context a aya to neto orra isp so we dress in chicago for you nova postaion notia conferency alllet to tobabu ta shijava besh me koa aniovvanna postachci eppo proto rabu beshmakaia and i you be ablebu inam yotaer viha

Monika real: ah the transmiy ofcot and ne game me three two al voyage machine them the

Monika Borycka: would like to say that Monika would like to say that it should be our side job, side job in the film. We like vtuber. So

Monika real: I don't know, I don't think I can imagine...

Monika Borycka: dense

Monika real: Yes,

Monika Borycka: We recorded the previous episode 3 years ago. think that time is going to be. Monika still in 3 years now. Maybe will be possible.

Monika real: it's true.

Monika Borycka: But when it was conference, it was expo, as said. So there were no more than there were. But even if there were, and na metoni bar conference at the waterki expo exa oz okas we have niboton vik quaddo a suka never but bo way thought ah

Monika real: Okay.

Monika Borycka: There is a stereotype about Japończyk, that they are in English and in the

Monika Borycka: very short, I didn't have any dialogue. what was there was lot of software, I don't want to say that was software, but also software, which was a software, which we had sensor, or that it was a software, and we have a huge robot, which we were going to do, which we were going to do, which we were going to do.

Monika Borycka: So have my own Vitubera, I have Monika's choice. So it was a hard work, but because it was a lot of fans, didn't have concert the best concert, because there were some senior, not Hatsune Miku, because she is already a big, but senior, but senior, there was Kizuna,

Monika real: Okay. Okay.

Monika Borycka: which is already 10 years old, so she's a baby in the world of V2B. I got to a concert concert that was a great experience. if poem ti a miantta com the kicha mishang is a super mission and even squaddos ah and in the event um ah no poemic to the geniusious ze known to the ababo above voyageya to from de nebotanviers ah du you have that me this was I I

Monika Borycka: What I was struck by the

Monika Borycka: pinch jeff jen ala marovish mar callover smartsh vle guitar o ta ah gama

Monika Borycka: The market not so that the market is still in Europe, but as I saw the data from the point of the point, it twice a year. So, it is still in the market, but maybe maybe for 4-5 years we will have a higher rate.

Monika Borycka: and vkraa nevin stood but to to ondali is in ni olav your so so so shit to shut um ja vin bitch more of that stri pinchla dr ka mehikitakivin sha and maybe something else. Maybe if something like that will happen in mainstream.

Monika Borycka: So it was an impreza that was a great impression of me. vince nottovotaka infraakia absolut yeah ah absolut near as gay oneana If it's a is a

Monika Borycka: which are not quite about them, and things that are not quite about them are not quite about us. And it triney someov itta soa poag barza zist is is Monika, I you a

Monika real: I'm so interested in my interest.

Monika Borycka: duruon chicavo impreona

Monika real: I'm so interested my thinking.

Monika real: dr za feel

Monika Borycka: ah Bycie na Oktoberfest w Tokio z to And

Monika Borycka: abstracting e ku to nottaya poa ballet da ballet mifastinue Co więcej, it was also amazing to I a super famous series.

Monika Borycka: um genta stampto is like a super isna namaas areaia

Monika Borycka: This is a difference. I get into it.

Monika real: There are differences, but and and

Monika Borycka: resttofi vogula narav de povifu momenta yeston is noni aliv viiamoga sobinaja cachaco toistka i next toistto ga dam mo karsh dis lap touristo mis tusin annatom yes viton niva da mishi aittoia vogula ecoolga is mehua vola

Monika real: of

Monika real: russian the caviardni doctor who' conum much a dowa a moag yeah

Monika Borycka: I was in single one.

Monika real: or concept stores, which grzee the trend, top, top of niian nito near new mut netan nitoibero ali no to viche apoa yes mozo moan a topia raton

Monika Borycka: no yeah that

Monika real: ah Even in different contexts, like the to of

Monika real: zahu niches try and hold them in this possible justistam vironi movie which met they na pen on a zaena spot on castle fast naz young he he he nami ah bra yeah zaron ah frontto atinnaia onstein on questioning answer influences to remov autoim mipanellala the the

Monika real: From the

Monika Borycka: But you know, you talk about the domination and the kim soft powers the technology name he the muslim movie technologyicos also soft also a soft power soft power. And in Japan, I always hit it, because I have a second time, so I have a little bit of say that I'm to say it in English, but I'm going to say it in the is where I can see a laptop Panasonic or a electric car Panasonic, which we have no place.

Monika Borycka: A chińskiego tech, if you're talking about the of

Monika real: Mm-hmm.

Monika Borycka: hina ah troche and the colonial liuor the technology yeahania but the schmonafazana na

Monika Borycka: of a specific to tourists who usually don't manage to behave. So there was a campaign.

Monika Borycka: which started thinking that Japan is

Monika Borycka: can't imagine that I can't imagine such a in Attack on Titan. to to Mori Art Museum to see wonderful show of Rona Mueca.

Monika Borycka: I have a good idea, I have a good name. He was very realistic. I came to the influencer from the internet because at some point I started to show a lot of the spaces in the room, and I have a lot of spaces in the room, and have lot of spaces in Japan. It's a beautiful museum. I just do this design.

Monika Borycka: we appointed a budget of poo youpo named tasha it ising the shopian muslim

Monika real: you

Monika Borycka: it has his especially to theam so thego design of vla I have a feeling that through the and

Monika Borycka: When I come back to my home there are cars, there are cars, there are people who are parked, because Traffing is parking, that's great idea. There is no way of thinking. There is no way of thinking about Japończycy. They just park and cars. I tell you that it was for me the biggest shock.

Monika Borycka: Piękna architektura, tutaj aż wyzdechłam, bo jednak jest to, jak to mówił klasyk unnatural city, jak jedziesz, jedziesz, jedziesz, natomiast to

Monika real: So, it's very interesting to to the country of the fish, but it's true.

Monika Borycka: Thank you very much.

Monika real: thechao the the cryo cri none viish niina ale takaes pravda

Monika Borycka: Monika, have photo of Evangelion, Mech. I was in this Mech. And it was one of the most beautiful days of my life. So say? Japan has a heart attack. I totally works with soft power. have the of the meter, but it is not important. What can I say? No.

Monika real: Prota, I'm going to to in

Monika Borycka: so small gap of the edge it's okay

Monika Borycka: not

Monika real: ah naco carraio ofpoian is butjivan that's possible

Monika real: to the whole 58 hours the world, even in the middle of the world, the design, which is the Mediolan, Milan Design Week. It's a lot of experience, especially in the state of Kolei. So, you can also see...

Monika Borycka: It's like a great idea! It's like a great idea!

Monika real: this It's like a of ma blars ski take me pra the the is not.

Monika Borycka: Mm-hmm.

Monika real: which

Monika Borycka: But Gucci was the first time on the show? Ciekawe.

Monika real: As a show, we are also personal activity. We have also a whole industry of cars, which design

Monika Borycka: chicago

Monika real: But what surprising to you, it was a

Monika real: And to the active, active, immersive experience, which actually every brand, every experience in Maryland is immersive, there are people who want to experience this experience.

Monika real: um is possible tool a stage isovvisia

Monika real: just much is possible not to act on impre true va in nachinoov duja me spenzacheon va ni ons vougo g colaka and to of the the was of

Monika Borycka: Mm-hmm.

Monika real: in the of

Monika real: I have impression the base,

Monika real: and not design no alatesh sanron takeke moson naavion and now you took a

Monika Borycka: It's culture, not?

Monika real: talk ta

Monika real: like not nata

Monika Borycka: In the on.

Monika real: It's a design design, but a lot more developed with a large program.

Monika Borycka: a very nice place.

Monika real: And also the culture of

Monika real: tag

Monika Borycka: is a good synonym.

Monika real: Exactly, and he has of work, mostly in the study, but not only in the future. There are also a lot of work with Eindhoven, so always try to work of the art,

Monika real: ah pernago muavar deutta com instalaia jubkeo ko po call youag drgoshi forjihu in ybuotam needs nibuam mis the to and And it was a manifest artist, young people, also Mediolan, who, through prism of this over tourism and over interest in the in is it to reach yesterday is that not that na abstractish sta at dark thema ah to the a

Monika Borycka: ah the tes ni hojis va tesni ho' v But go a is not a mainstream.

Monika real: I I'm going to go.

Monika Borycka: At least it was like your relationship. And liked it.

Monika real: It's a question that I don't know about design, work in the design, of any need for it.

Monika Borycka: What,

Monika real: nevin y nima ta kiut she beak ah or the pattern of the slimy signals or the pattern of

Monika Borycka: you have to do this in the kuluar?

Monika real: bre tatali I don't know, because I do not do this anymore, but it's an important element

Monika Borycka: Mm-hmm. yeah

Monika real: I'm rather at this.

Monika real: I a

Monika Borycka: Yes.

Monika real: She made a great presentation of her first product wnętrzarskie lamp. It was a presentation in the

Monika real: <unk> for jewish ah of standishef parts ofriolites and nidu pona but terra guina if hoji watch shift the staim na matanium ah op vawa sheen san washington midwe ifotmona bodofiat to thevaanna that the te lamp attack ah vani of taimm capri

Monika Borycka: yes

Monika real: It's a a immersive experience, experience, experience, and component.

Monika Borycka: Mm-hmm.

Monika real: And it was a of

Monika Borycka: Mm-hmm.

Monika real: to the justtanevvioev barsov lure andatsia sort of is a lot of continuity, but last year he was a little bit more difficult, more dystopian.

Monika real: this year he was a little bit more surrealist in the presentation. So there is question

Monika real: What kind of is not op partageustaium a mass good content to hip puttan luja vone donma an iibarji oblaka the present that on which is but just the just

Monika Borycka: No

Monika Borycka: talk

Monika real: There is no way to

Monika Borycka: But it's not like software

Monika real: No, because there are 2000 people in salon. if it comes to artist the

Monika real: It is really something unique when it comes to the same function of the Miasta in this period, where it is just a big showroom, from which we can't get out. And from the place to the place, from the place to the place, from the place to the place, from the place to the place,

Monika real: The most important thing that Milan design

Monika real: It's a great vibe of this place, that you can was immersive experience.

Monika Borycka: But

Monika real: the tu just need the op piana

Monika Borycka: Kia is a car brand? Okay.

Monika real: Yes, it is a ago with artists and art brand new during Milan Design Week.

Monika Borycka: okay

Monika real: It is a very interesting It's a very interesting experience, showing process of innovation, creative process, Air.

Monika Borycka: Mm-hmm.

Monika real: ah which created a laboratory of water, as it was possible to say, and also showed a

Monika real: Milan Design Week, in Drop City, in such tunnel behind the main door, showed great show about 50-year-old experience in projecting, also in projecting with a very different technique.

Monika Borycka: Mm-hmm.

Monika real: but also laboratory R-LAB

Monika real: torepocazavo va yacotamatin guvnatama praov viamoovette shaag so etc soo board or berdochicam de chat tene vin naverta marque which

Monika Borycka: Mm-hmm.

Monika real: but trafi were um becauses that ichakos the shut not justtan to impre na ta and na prav de pravjiva ah It was a like on Milan Design the Biennale of Wenecia.

Monika real: you you ship you suggest um shaviawatash nashviche yeah e concept allla no some of It the a of the And the Polacy, who started the second year second year, the Milan Design Week, in the whole of

Monika real: if It was a very interesting moment for Mediolan and Mediolan, because the show was now in a few weeks ago, a building of the Tore Velasca in Mediolana.

Monika real: and a lot of people who came to see this exhibition were Mediolanczycy who lived there every day and wanted to see the pictures of this exhibition.

Monika Borycka: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Monika real: So was like, first looked at the exhibition, then the panoram of the city's view. But it was also a moment ago that Mediolanczycy, even though it was a week of the week,

Monika real: madamanttes of nimota gosto vash nicola in their town, they also very actively use of these shows. And to vavvong je palsky design ta takim taki discco sipo name me epipokami just stopset taion and no e ittan post demoar some it than caudition choad ittan dece naian zance but as illusion as possible the And

Monika real: you can see it from the last time, it is an impreza so many faces that would like to to of in

Monika Borycka: I wanted to say that Monika said that it's 25 minutes, but it's 45 minutes. And this that we don't know how short, but we know how well. But it's a surprise to me Monika in the way that you

Monika real: Thank you.

Monika Borycka: timto thought the so ruia poveda i shot him maybe otte tawe oteai impriss on myies parts and what's no can't wait for my question.

Monika Borycka: and sp after com or whatno mic I think I think I think was interesting and intriguing be a person who was thinking about it. Or with the idea of social media.

Monika Borycka: think I to

Monika real: Absolutely not any doubt, that most of these big, commercial activities were prepared for them look very well during relationship online.

Monika Borycka: to

Monika real: However, you can also also of online yeah natomai mosma omovitash

Monika real: in the Venice.

Monika real: oshir nizana koo commota al

Monika Borycka: Bjerg, who's playing DJ Set, and that kind of stuff.

Monika real: a lot of vaets it of vaets i lot dollar

Monika Borycka: Sorry, I'm sorry. a' top surprise up new newport new problem asked me but

Monika real: Yes, Impress, Biennale of

Monika real: ah plataion something powerwars that the ta design, a new brand, from AI, big, a new platform, a slope,

Monika Borycka: Slopkiem takim? Szkoda slopek?

Monika real: talkinging pack the ki slop came ta taing the ki the be

Monika Borycka: what

Monika real: color-like colors, which were there from palace, big journey. There was a lot of fun in this year in Millian Design Week. There was big journey in the building, there was pool pool pool, and made up to be done, to be it looked good on the

Monika Borycka: But

Monika real: there be prosisrila ta poitchta

Monika Borycka: what I going to say is that you said that you looked better in the internet than in the live. I just kind of like...

Monika real: to to vi cheto like but tumarevoov viel neto totoas act Of like a was

Monika Borycka: huh

Monika Borycka: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Monika real: It's a two-story impreza, from great, very short-lived presentations, just to make them look good on Insta, to a very strong, in a way of storytelling. So, it's really very different.

Monika Borycka: Kurczę, to widzisz, dobrze, że się spotkałyśmy, to chociaż ja Ci trochę poopowiadam tutaj o Tymi tutaj o Mediolanie można tak, słuchaj, tak można takie podcasty prowadzić, no.

Monika real: So, it was our two-głos between the west the west. I hope that... mama ji and yet

Monika Borycka: Dokładnie słuchajcie, łączymy East and West.

Monika real: z that you didn't get out of these monologues on the West and the West, but that you can take a look at it and you can get out of it. And we'll talk about more, that I'm saying, about more, that I'm saying, about more than the business things we'll talk about in the infoshare.

Monika real: the quadlia the name for sea

Monika Borycka: no Claude Cowork i może kiedyś też o bo jest to no.

Monika real: Exactly, do see you, keep on your way.

Monika Borycka: Do zobaczenia. Cześć, pa.

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