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Trendradar: Monika Borycka, Trendradar
Monika Borycka: So, are we coming back after the holidays, Monika?
Trendradar: We are coming back, with a need to to us today.
Monika Borycka: clap clap clap
Agata Bisping: Hello, good morning everyone.
Trendradar: That's...
Agata Bisping: Clap, clap, clap.
Trendradar: Doctor...
Trendradar: Hi Agata, listen, we invite you the and in the podcast, i ah was sub bishop vijavaton tongue that's known as that's known asva .e.
Monika Borycka: Navid. Nawet. Love it.
Trendradar: of
Agata Bisping: Great. Thank you for the and from offline, we can also meet online. itroha to tell you about it. um What we carry... to people.
Agata Bisping: not only in the
Agata Bisping: European Association of Technology,
Agata Bisping: There is also a separate department of i .e. learnings on...
Agata Bisping: who studies the the is of conference is vija homani tuna agiha is naingra a conference sector obu de agaha over chiupna navatohiki marenki ipsvoo take iostinnaovsov the
Trendradar: Tee -dee, tee -tee, tee -tee, top of the tree. So you have to combine three things, the all these scientists to Krakow.
Agata Bisping: Thank you.
Monika Borycka: 1 ,400 people on their own, right?
Trendradar: No.
Monika Borycka: With these hands...
Agata Bisping: the was Not on my own, because of course... I would like to tell you about how it is the the and it would be nice to do this conference at the AGH.
Agata Bisping: And we did it. to win this open call and convince the of the and put the of the the to
Agata Bisping: moam shavo ni sound of a technology yet technology infrastructurera vogola alif factory rest dememament now changed tore theanga The infrastructure the of
Trendradar: Frota, before we
Monika Borycka: I just wanted to...
Agata Bisping: No, no, these are social studies on science and technology.
Trendradar: but
Agata Bisping: Disclaimer.
Monika Borycka: Listen!
Trendradar: ah
Monika Borycka: so maybe we should build a service.
Trendradar: thing
Trendradar: Yes, yes.
Agata Bisping: what ah
Trendradar: that
Agata Bisping: Sociology of quantity, for example.
Monika Borycka: Exactly.
Agata Bisping: Thanks.
Monika Borycka: First of all, Monika, answering your question, I a
Monika Borycka: I thought that, damn, you know, future studies, some agriculture and so
Monika Borycka: If I could come, I would come. Unfortunately, I will have a cut nose, so I will not come. However, it is a Trendy, bingo words. AI blockchain and algorithmic infrastructure as a digital...
Monika Borycka: Eh.
Trendradar: I would like to claim that this is just a scientific success. Bingo! Trends are there in every other panel.
Monika Borycka: Calibration of data, the data devotion and the ordering of time. I hope that these panels will be recorded. Cold war of AI, AI nationalism. I want good content like SXXW on YouTube. I think it's an opportunity.
Monika Borycka: Napravda
Agata Bisping: I have to tell you that our huge ambition as the organizers of conference was to make this conference only on -site. I'm sorry for that, but those who will not be with us now.
Monika Borycka: a
Agata Bisping: um
Agata Bisping: <unk> thevan get the face to face. person ni toe isopoiapoia in another no con in uncleco my own specific president thats it pan but if not no change to to keep you and is The that the
Trendradar: I think this is the I to and and a
Monika Borycka: Mm hmm. huh
Monika Borycka: Mm hmm.
Agata Bisping: Well, what can I say? I would absolutely wish myself... so that cooperation between science and business and science and the government was a standard in designing innovation or designing innovative public policies. um
Agata Bisping: so that decisions are made on the basis of data and not on the basis of opinion or
Agata Bisping: aatni theacra too I mean, let's do conference, which is called More Than Now – Exploring Resilient Futures. and tago so ben de pinnovaru choice no key technology, not only from the perspective
Agata Bisping: So, how new infrastructures... new production and redistribution systems will influence design of new systems. whether new technologies or new public policies, from and his perspective of speculation, understood as thinking about how it would be possible to design world differently on way it is but of scientific research.
Agata Bisping: usually, to put it simply, recipients, residents.
Agata Bisping: We also try to talk at this conference about what would happen in for to so that the the to
Agata Bisping: We are also talking about...
Trendradar: And these are all the
Agata Bisping: Yes, exactly.
Trendradar: It was just an open call for
Agata Bisping: Exactly. This is how it works. We, as a local organisational committee, when we started the Open Call, had an idea of the of
Agata Bisping: This crisis was an immanent feature, but active.
Agata Bisping: us. And yes, prepared.
Trendradar: Well, yes, but... But you know, to I think you also have to understand on the one hand... What is learning all about? And I think this is also a very big problem that we have globally. And on the other hand, understand something else...
Trendradar: to do it.
Trendradar: there was more and more knowledge in the society. It depends on how we become more active.
Agata Bisping: um
Agata Bisping: and try to answer them, we will certainly address the
Agata Bisping: klka badan pakistan e tetamae a on
Agata Bisping: as a pro egos stream and Jane Culver and Aleksandra Wagner. These are people who deal with...
Agata Bisping: design, for example, focused on
Agata Bisping: and used in designing practical and useful solutions.
Trendradar: It sounds cosmic. Prota didn't even talk about it.
Trendradar: I for.
Trendradar: po song now cosy but that ah butmo
Monika Borycka: And research also has no good PR lately, let's face it, right?
Trendradar: I just wanted to and to...
Agata Bisping: Not bad. that
Trendradar: co ios chavanto ta shado ka deme staia Um... oennich yakovvinni beach doubles ro beyond that sosh poca alanamoatenito taa portek to
Trendradar: pune raaen and iia I that the the is very interesting how to attract people to...
Trendradar: to be interested in it. Maybe also...
Monika Borycka: I was to me. jo kim took too bao jamittor ekichakavi tema Can I just go in there from the street as if I were in Kraków? Do I have go through some, I don't know, process?
Agata Bisping: Well, if you are an ordinary guy and you are at the entry level, the easiest and safest way to contact this conference would be the CyBars event, which we are organizing on September 10.
Agata Bisping: This is suhana muzakiri but alsouify in paris suian ittuai the to
Agata Bisping: Why are they studying it and is in
Agata Bisping: or those who are participants of the that this is an entry level. for all those who would like to
Trendradar: Agata invited me co -organize this event.
Monika Borycka: Exactly, because I can see the organizers here and the radar trend, so it's interesting. Check out that.
Trendradar: format.
Agata Bisping: I'm just fulfilling my dreams.
Trendradar: a se up Yes, I think so.
Monika Borycka: It is worth to be interested in science. Science fulfills dreams.
Agata Bisping: that the question.
Trendradar: We also have similar formats, because of and to or those we would like to
Monika Borycka: Yeah.
Trendradar: showing difficult science about trends, about the future, somewhere in is In from Studies studios last year. by you, Agata,
Trendradar: um Science is something cool. There are more and more formats that show that science is something cool. We already have cool scientific podcasts and various kinds of profiles on
Monika Borycka: And this is an interesting question, because when I look at... Let's call it a network. then usually those people who have the status of the university, but they sit in this business either as advisors or as...
Monika Borycka: yacoam'ms spvaticellalo business so the mostian vamuttagoni ba nata kim meet tapia voleian ni mego tomato with sir ja za pu as the
Agata Bisping: Mm hmm.
Monika Borycka: <unk> bariwami oowa present taiapanak tori pocavo al dof justaggoic krivana to triia baro motnu prastra tentonakov is aos for for for present that's yeah but optimistician na salli is pin dish um pin dish pinch ah soup ah stat statistics need and then va martintenak I
Monika Borycka: Great beginning of the to I think, when it comes to the tech,
Monika Borycka: in some laboratories or at universities, then they are presented at one of the research, award for the role and so on. But what's interesting,
Monika Borycka: Practically all the that are presented there can sound abstract to of Monia, as usual, as I usually do, digression to your short question.
Monika Borycka: Personally, I know little, but know that a business without science will not cope, but unfortunately, let's face it. Nauka bez biznesu tez trochan. This is word, synergy should be...
Monika Borycka: And now I'm also wondering, looking at the program of the conference, do you expect that someone from the business will come who will say, damn, I went for this, for this, for this. And then maybe I will inspire someone to invite these scientists who will present these topics.
Monika Borycka: or to build a company at all. Because this is some crazy businessman will come and say...
Monika Borycka: Talk.
Agata Bisping: I would dream that it would be so.
Monika Borycka: Mm hmm.
Agata Bisping: and I would like to who look...
Monika Borycka: Mm hmm.
Agata Bisping: opportunities in conferences. and makes an effort to
Agata Bisping: Because, for example, thinking about what you said in the of on
Monika Borycka: Yes.
Monika Borycka: okay
Agata Bisping: Internet controversy about food and now I would think about. business opportunity, though vi dish poukawabe thetors yu zanna as ah the kim sha change I
Agata Bisping: aletruder scheme also super that cm and nasia called luji tavia du and posukawa the god so to badananaakkiz badanaana is but
Agata Bisping: about food for astronauts. And now if I'm looking for some new business opportunities, I could think about it. Okay, if someone came up with how feed astronauts in product. um
Agata Bisping: business and science at such events. And now I don't know, it will probably be a very unpopular opinion. I think that
Agata Bisping: um And we read it, and I wonder...
Agata Bisping: and can he understand it?
Agata Bisping: how it is supposed to and and as one of the main goals.
Agata Bisping: that one thing is to meet as a community deepen...
Monika Borycka: Yeah.
Agata Bisping: to develop it, to add it to the field of knowledge. We know more, we know better, we know how to ask better questions, we know how to check something more methodologically, but to go to people later and say, listen,
Agata Bisping: We've done an interesting thing that will improve... and the quality of your is easier and it does not mean better.
Monika Borycka: okay
Agata Bisping: Yep.
Monika Borycka: business, because we are also referring to this business, but venture capital and I think that there is not one investor in all of them.
Monika Borycka: either space tech or food tech. I don't know where to put food for astronauts. However, I think this is these...
Monika Borycka: for these investment funds, which on the one hand, yes, catch these companies, but they also have to...
Monika Borycka: What you said about the of life, it's very cool. to to mis at the maggawana ala of kim bardota plaim pragmatic pragmaticti and I in
Monika Borycka: But thanks to Nauta...
Agata Bisping: like Well, yes.
Agata Bisping: Excuse me, let me turn it off. to get to it.
Monika Borycka: the fact that we have, you know, an hour of free content for jokes. It is... What hurts me is the lack of trust.
Monika Borycka: to paper, let's call it semi, you know, scientific papers, research, etc.
Agata Bisping: Mm -hmm.
Monika Borycka: And I think this is the worst thing in name. that society loses trust in research, looks at the budget, God, they spent 200 ,000 PLN on it, what a terrible thing. Probably all are the same and probably it goes like that everywhere. And this is a terrible untruth and I think that unfortunately this whole affair can do more harm than good.
Agata Bisping: to do at GIECHO during this conference.
Agata Bisping: um I hope that in
Trendradar: So...
Monika Borycka: Monika, I
Trendradar: I don't know, because I know that I will have to for years of my various activities.
Trendradar: business and, oras autotrovisious ahsuami punami e auto toicious on to do a successor a via lawyer but tuat yeah e in aeno ah yeah po and she usual dawa themana poum meroumena ta oumass me rozma vermen yeah va rouma datogenina tech chances man roto insult from me son yeah ah but autotobi she she hold youtoist boi short of And the now, to the of but
Trendradar: Agata, I wanted to ask you, we have moment to talk about what kind of is
Trendradar: You were involved in both innovative and to the academia and business and.
Trendradar: and public policies, the self -government itself. What drove you what is your doctorate about? Czy możesz coś zdradzić?
Agata Bisping: Oh, yeah. yeah What attracted me was my radical curiosity. Over the the that the
Agata Bisping: I wanted to northern vi kial check is a
Agata Bisping: I met Prof. Płoszajski happily in my life, with whom I had the of the the for a the
Agata Bisping: And so we managed to... um I cooperate with the city of
Agata Bisping: In the
Agata Bisping: whose title is The to use trend watching to design local social interventions, field methodological studies in field of participatory action research.
Agata Bisping: genu kolo scheme as reppejaplera load eurosi partss about rahi ah in to and
Agata Bisping: and how it pays off for the local government. And this is my implementation and scientific work. I'm finishing my third year. I hope to be lucky enough to go to the fourth next year and get a job.
Agata Bisping: And... to defend this doctorate. So this is my
Agata Bisping: because it is implementable. I mean, I'm not only high -level at
Agata Bisping: and there some factories named staia urealmit is for yeah butanya was naturally inapppuav But the basis of these studies, design something, implement it, check whether it works or not, iterate, calibrate either throw it away or implement it and it works.
Agata Bisping: Or am I to
Agata Bisping: pona nieniavanniote pa in naquaor and the of
Trendradar: If we would go deeper into the for all those who are interested, I would say...
Agata Bisping: Mm hmm.
Trendradar: active nenski for saitto drja naruz mapojama notto sheze agata soquees baro do abresangbutic cheriio oum pogada reststante to
Trendradar: in the to um butkasania
Trendradar: that around this conference, this topic, there are a all
Trendradar: How to pronounce it?
Agata Bisping: Yes, Kurt van Mensvoort, who, as you said, is the president of the organization Next Nature, which after many years took over Evaluon in Eindhoven.
Trendradar: Okay.
Agata Bisping: This is a characteristic building in the shape of a spot. Right next to o bo tru the
Monika Borycka: Probably me, if I know life.
Agata Bisping: Yes, exactly.
Monika Borycka: Probably me, yes.
Agata Bisping: Exactly. And Kert will be the the bigger one, at our conference.
Agata Bisping: where, in he infrastructure is And How can we...
Agata Bisping: to anticipate these unimaginable associations of technology and society.
Agata Bisping: Kerta's co carta is known from but
Agata Bisping: super interested.
Agata Bisping: in 2018 during the on the social responsibility of designers. and Kurt is telling us about it.
Trendradar: which you that you are behind this no
Agata Bisping: dark Yes, here I had such... like
Agata Bisping: Yes, exactly. Thanks for It's a
Agata Bisping: and And this is an interesting task, which is very difficult to do.
Agata Bisping: and very much, which says that it will be difficult us to find such times when we do not know where and when we will arrive. If we don't practice radical curiosity... and the ability to imagine unimaginable things.
Agata Bisping: We will be very boring.
Agata Bisping: <unk> see ab ma chief the the chiranan forbris nearsia shuka tu near orivis text the kula neta kiter and andzaskaqueo ah But that talk about it as a scientist, that is, to say not only a lot of complicated words and a lot about nothing.
Agata Bisping: but... should I say said the't no? Why do we do it? Why is it important? Not necessarily that be useful for everyone, but also...
Agata Bisping: of artificial intelligence, so that it is still a human domain. or will we be as scientists?
Agata Bisping: Thank you for the invitation. Thanks for watching.
Trendradar: We had, we had...
Monika Borycka: Yum -yum.
Agata Bisping: Okay.
Trendradar: Prota, you were missing there, listen.
Monika Borycka: Yeah. No, it wasn't missing.
Trendradar: We had a a
Monika Borycka: No, no, no.
Monika Borycka: Okay, but don't you try to do it?
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Monika Borycka: Exactly!
Agata Bisping: And listen.
Agata Bisping: it all read an appseticly this vtic of ven And
Trendradar: all What the f - You took care of everything there, it turns out.
Agata Bisping: różными. It's simple.
Monika Borycka: Only not relationships for non -participating people.
Trendradar: No.
Monika Borycka: Stop.
Trendradar: and
Agata Bisping: because we present, and this is nakamiaerepia ah boni boing andinal alokaza was she was a but who is currently residing in Evaluon.
Agata Bisping: Mame tesh na agyeho. SENSTERA – digital -controlled kinetic installations. which originally...
Trendradar: What is this?
Monika Borycka: So the...
Trendradar: A kinetic installation?
Agata Bisping: This is...
Monika Borycka: One more time.
Agata Bisping: oh yes i love this This is a digital -controlled kinetic installation.
Trendradar: ah
Agata Bisping: This is works that of media art. The story of the creation of this work... covers the social and of the functioning of enterprises within the boundaries of technology and art.
Agata Bisping: And now... Let's go on. the of the of and the original sensor...
Agata Bisping: Bill? installed and managed by Philips in Evoluon pavilion in Eindhoven. in June 1970.
Trendradar: Naprawdę?
Agata Bisping: After a few years, the exhibition was canceled.
Agata Bisping: and
Agata Bisping: butrataramie braze porani policy The were Dr. Anna Olszewska, who is currently a the AGH and Marek Długosz. You will also be able to watch Senster at the conference.
Agata Bisping: but there is a free access. Check out the of name the of people who were involved.
Agata Bisping: with the revitalization of SEMSTER. So, that's it. What's more, in the entire conference program we have a topic called SCS meets art.
Agata Bisping: Where?
Trendradar: W ogóle co to? What kind of story is this?
Agata Bisping: Where did we invite scientists to work in different forms? in other media than the scientific paper, they talked about the results of their research. so we could write a poem about it.
Agata Bisping: short fiction. or a story. And we have...
Monika Borycka: I beg you, someone please rap something.
Agata Bisping: Maybe, maybe.
Monika Borycka: I beg you.
Agata Bisping: One then ah yet then ah he naty hor mu ravi change benjaruruova maga au practor da cabareia infentjamo as apo let conform the
Agata Bisping: Offline? and online.
Monika Borycka: Oh my but we'll come back to that the of you have and
Monika Borycka: However, in general... so so switch meet at this this is much a um till is a plan ofva as trustun You that I will scroll this program on the website. And it doesn't end there.
Trendradar: A ty flota 40 minutów to scrollujesz od startu podcastu.
Monika Borycka: Well, yes, but Monika, listen, if know, I'm now on Thursday at panel session 6.
Agata Bisping: Yes, we have 10 of them.
Monika Borycka: which has about 30 of these. I mean, it's amazing to me that... The more I have a pain in some part of my body that I will not be, because it really is ...
Monika Borycka: I don't want to say that is for everyone
Trendradar: Is it? We will contact you.
Monika Borycka: But it's a cover, isn't it?
Trendradar: We'll record you.
Monika Borycka: I count on this relationship. Monika, you have to make content, you will become a conference influencer um and you will turn your Instagram into... Here are the decorations.
Agata Bisping: Thank you very much.
Monika Borycka: Super.
Agata Bisping: I
Agata Bisping: in order to counteract the situation when the it
Agata Bisping: um to move forward in a responsible, socially responsible way. um And here we have a lot of work to do, and on the other hand, to make these conferences interesting, you know, B2B scientist to scientist. um poulniva systems na ciacha buta used to the pian non sanyroo dr rato and of
Agata Bisping: ami bagariavana is onavpiran of submerit richne and is
Agata Bisping: Of course, there are some holes in reached the
Trendradar: Well, I think this aspect of scientific mentoring goaovagoto his hip but is
Agata Bisping: It's so high -tech, no?
Agata Bisping: Yes, but also if you would like to also report as a volunteer.
Trendradar: suck
Agata Bisping: yesni And the the of the In return, you have the opportunity to participate in the sessions.
Agata Bisping: If someone would like to...
Monika Borycka: hu
Agata Bisping: feel free to
Monika Borycka: I'm still following the program and now I came across such a lecture.
Trendradar: Not sure.
Monika Borycka: God Futures, Politics, Care and Digestions. So you can also listen to about poisoning and politics and some regulations of it.
Agata Bisping: Mm, that's good news.
Monika Borycka: Amazing.
Agata Bisping: ah questionman
Trendradar: Frota, you won't get out of it until the evening.
Monika Borycka: However... It was just...
Trendradar: The entertainment is already there until the end of the day.
Monika Borycka: No, I have to get out of it, but dream of being a high school student or... Older youth said, damn, you were at the Open Air, no, I despise this party, I only go to some scientific conferences, like Sounds of Metaverse, another very nice conference, strictly small, but strictly related to sound, not Metaverse.
Monika Borycka: ammargama festivalivi muuchtic e festivalli no coto e tota do but The
Trendradar: a bit.
Monika Borycka: Oh.
Trendradar: covago o punawa um ah ah
Monika Borycka: Mm hmm. That is... mm -hmm But not exactly, Monia, let's face it.
Trendradar: Not exactly, because there is a lot of...
Monika Borycka: doug
Trendradar: PhDs and to
Trendradar: That's the step you were talking about, Agata, that you have to start...
Trendradar: not and
Monika Borycka: And the program is not yet clear, so here... Program jeszcze.
Trendradar: Frota is still scrolling, but I am very happy because in this conversation there was everything we deal with in the episodes, i .e.
Monika Borycka: Yes, sir
Trendradar: in addition to technology, trends, the future and science, there was also pop culture and space... I even forgot now.
Monika Borycka: Cosmic rituals and demons, what more can be added?
Trendradar: nin ni yeah who you me all ah ho you me ototalaszi artist de No, I
Agata Bisping: since then
Agata Bisping: Yes, movie. so i It's also digital, yes.
Trendradar: Exactly, first of all, Weindhoven, which is famous, it has been rebuilt, we have design and
Trendradar: Also thanks to Philips, who was such a the put on to and
Trendradar: ah debbra and nottoosuhai a prashamme a praham Agata
Trendradar: Science Bar, which I also invite on September 10th. If a scientist, a doctor, a designer who works with research is listening to us, anyone from the scientific world who would like to report to Science Bar as a person
Monika Borycka: Or someone who has friends.
Trendradar: Oh, because we know...
Monika Borycka: wise friends.
Trendradar: person speaking, then listen, this is the moment, right? There will be no other. Next Science Bar, Agata, for telling us all about it. I think this is not our last podcast and that we will probably come back to you.
Monika Borycka: For sure. I'll just say that we'll probably include all mentioned things in the notes of the episode, because there lot of it. ayka pra the operation And a program of bor da I to the I the I regret that unfortunately...
Monika Borycka: Nie będzie.
Agata Bisping: Thank you very much for the invitation.
Monika Borycka: No.
Agata Bisping: I invite you to... Krakowa. it took gene carz of ro us too high on a but also this my duke to with website of the chicago importeption so the pressure theo and conference and tell the world something good about it.
Trendradar: Yes.
Monika Borycka: Mega. Mm hmm.
Trendradar: Influencers and
Monika Borycka: fashion bloggers, etc. Everything can be.
Trendradar: Well, I think there's more than one topic for a fashion blogger to find, Frota.
Agata Bisping: Why not?
Monika Borycka: Totally.
Trendradar: You'll dig something out there in a moment.
Monika Borycka: That's why I'm not saying... That's why I don't say it in a
Trendradar: Well, with this optimistic accent we end.
Monika Borycka: No.
Trendradar: Frota goes on to watch the program, Agata goes to Science Bar.
Trendradar: ah Do usłyszenia!
Agata Bisping: Do usushenia!
Monika Borycka: Do usłyszenia!
