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Sticky Jazz Interview Bridget Barkan
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A woman who has done it all, worked with the Scissor Sisters, toured with Lady Gaga, worked with Baz Lurhmann, taught "Music Connections" at Carnegie Hall, well, you would be hard pressed to find someone as talented and giving as Bridget Barkan.
She has been involved in so many musical and artistic projects, having just released a song about the extremes in life "Good Things", she is also a very talented dancer (as evidenced in the video for the song). Bridget is so giving of herself, and her music shows you she really is an open book.
She is the "Mistress of Ceremonies" at Duane Park, one of NYC's most famous burlesque clubs, and her wit is all over the place.
With a voice that is sometimes soft, other times seductive, you just find whatever you need in her music, if it's the wonderful lost soul sounds from the late 70s, to a Laurie Anderson-esque version of Kate Bush songs, or reminding us of Laura Branigan, Bridget Barkan's voice and talent has it all and more.
I had an incredible conversation with her, and she caught me off guard, and made me laugh while drinking soda, which was causing bubbles in my brain through the interview.
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Transcript
Dedication and Introduction
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This is Danny Sabre, and you're listening to Sticky Jazz. this episode is dedicated to the memory of my friend brett wells mcgyver dude who was also known as the the crazy man with a three d printer who could build anything for you You will be missed. He passed away on June 8th, 2024 in a car accident. The opinions expressed on the show are truly those of Jeremy Hinks and Sticky Jazz podcast, guys and do not necessarily reflect those of anyone else on this planet. And good day, everybody. Welcome to Sticky Jazz.
Meet Brigid Barkin
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I'm Jeremy Hinks, the man of a million musical opinions, all of which happened to be correct. This week, I have Brigid Barkin. She is a multi-faceted artist from New York.
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She was a backup vocalist for the Scissor Sisters. She's done a lot of film work and she does non-profit work teaching kids in juvenile detention centers, music therapy. ah There's so much more to this amazing woman. She's just released a single called Good Things. And if you ever watch the movie Flashdance, you're gonna love the video, but that's not what the but the song was about. It's just an homage to that movie Flashdance. But we covered so much in this. I'm gonna open this up with her song, Good Things. So let's all sit back, turn on the Bridgett Barkin and do the Sticky Jazz. I've been under a cloud.
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Heavy and helpless. Bombs and tears raining down.
Music and Inspiration
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Grieving for every death So many layers of why I don't want terror or genocide Not about choosing sides Cause two things can be true at the same time
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to feel safe. Quiet room and close the door. But I love it out here in the wild. Pick up and go. Follow the signs. Hope it leads me to that simple.
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Good things are possible I think I'm my ex-lover
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Good things are possible I used to love October Change in leaves and Halloween This is the month I was almost a mother Now little pumpkins mean Something different to me I believe that I'm free
Career Highlights and Humor
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Hello, everybody. and Welcome to Sticky Jazz. I'm Jeremy Hanks. And this week I have Brigid Barkin, the, well, let's see, let let let me just read off some of the things on her resume. Singer, actress, mistress of ceremonies at Burlesque Duane Park, that's a club, did a stint with the Scissors Sisters and just does music workshops all over New York. So what what do you not do, I guess? I i mean, I don't juggle. You don't juggle. Although I'm, I actually really want to learn. So that's going to be on my list of things to do in this lifetime. So it'll, it'll like come into something that you're doing at the club. One of these nights like, Hey, I might as well get up and juggle. Yeah. I had an idea to juggle dildos.
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Don't choke on your soda.
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Okay. I didn't need you to say it right then. Okay. so As the bubbles are going through my brain. Okay. So your, your publicist warned me. He said that you were really funny and that I was going to like you. And that once you realize you had a captive audience, I was going to lose all control of the interview. So, um, that is how yes he knows me so well. Oh, well that happened already. Jeez. Sorry, bubbles in my brain. Okay, I'm putting that away, so. um Which is why I would need to juggle dildos, because I get a lot of bubbles in my brain too. Oh, we'll be talking about that. We'll be talking about what's in your brain here later, because you did write a song about that. um So, all right. i would So here you are, you're you're doing music, which you've been doing for a long time.
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but you just released the new single, Good Things. And somebody else over at the publicity company said, hey, check out this. I'm like, I'm interviewing her in an hour.
Artistic Influences
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Yes, Good Things. You have, at least for that one, you have the vocals of like Laura Branigan. Just that's so really sweet. but I was like, oh, that's so beautiful. I've been getting that. It's so interesting. I didn't realize how she kind of, you know, melted her way into my atmosphere. Yeah, it just like, I mean, it just like, after a while of listening to the song and going through it, I was like, that's really beautiful. And that's just who your voice just reminded me of right there. And it was it was great because some of your other stuff, like a melda may is another one that comes to mind if you know who she is. No, I'm gonna now I got a research and melda may she's an Irish rockabilly.
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uh yeah like she's she's old school rockabilly from you know like she sings and it sounds great then when she talks you don't understand the word she's saying you know she's just like this is really really good also the visual after that yeah worse than that yes like pinky blinders pinky blinders irish like god oh my god i love it yeah well i'm an irish girl an irish girl indeed Well, the red hair does kind of indicate that that are your Dennis, right? So like when I was at Denmark, there were redheads. You would have totally fit in up there and come in. In Corbin. I was saying, I don't know. I don't know how to do a Corbin Hagen accent. Now I'm just going to look a little Corbin Hagen for you. Yeah.
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I was warned about you. I should have been ready for this. I really should have. Okay. I love that. I love that there's an APB about me. No, he just said, look, I think you're going to really like her. Just watch out. Cause once you first laugh at her jokes, she's going to have captive audience. And then you're like, you're, and that's what happened. Okay. Right on the nose buddy. Right on the nose. So, all right. I, okay, so we got so much to cover here, and I know we're not gonna get to any of it, because I can already see where this is going. Well, I'll pause my my need to express. I'll let i'll give you some space. Oh, no, no,
Creative Process Insights
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just make me laugh. It's great. Just not what you, as soon as I pick the can of don't, okay, hold on. Okay, deal. Deal. So when I was watching the video, right, to good things,
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Yes. um Beautiful. But first thing come to mind was Holy Flashdance Batman. I know. Yeah. but Were you paying tribute or was it just? You know, I I I will be it's OK. So the first of all, you're not even old enough to have seen that movie when it was in the theaters. Bless your heart. No, I wasn't old enough. But ah and The fact is, is that the song has nothing to do with Flashdance at all, right? Right. No, I know that, but the video, right. yeah Not at all. so But what I know about myself, and this is just kind of like when I saw that movie, what i because I even asked myself, like why am I doing this Flashdance homage? Where is this coming from?
00:10:36
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And it was really just for me. um The song is really about a lot of things that are heartbreaking for me and creating the video and being able to do my, you know, express myself through my first love, which was dance. And all of the dance that has influenced me over my life, like that movie was a part of it. And when I thought it about me being in Like under a cloud because I literally wanted I had this very like exciting crazy You know CGI idea where I was gonna be dancing through the street But I just had water like pouring on me and I was like, I don't know how I'm gonna do that I don't have budget for that. So let's just find a rain room, which is what I did
00:11:17
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But the water on me made me think of, you know, it's all a social, you know, brain association and made me think of flash dance. And I was like, oh, I'm just going to like live a little bit of a childhood dream as I am processing this emotion. And I think I do that a lot through my art. It's that I find things that have stuck out to me, whether it's like a photo or a video or a film or even a painting. that just connects me to some sense of healing for me. whether So that part of the the video is it just for me. It was just for me to feel empowered um after feeling you know really heartbroken.
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Well, who was that that you were dancing with in there? Because she was great, too. She's like your mirror. Yeah. Yeah. So um her name is Casey Urban. And she I met her through a friend. A friend of mine had said, you should go see her show because she's doing a one-woman show pole dancing about her abortion. And I have worked a lot in around ah abortion and and
Dance and Emotional Expression
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and my miscarriage and different things. And I've been working on these different kinds of um creative expressions. And I didn't get to see her show. But when I looked her up, I immediately was like, there's a lot we have in common. She kind of looks like my twin. And I just reached out to her and we started talking. And I had the vision of us dancing dancing together.
00:12:43
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And I don't know if you noticed, but the trickery is that when I'm in the shadows in the spotlight, um I'm dressed. It's me dancing both times so that it almost kind of looks like it's always me dancing with myself. And so that was really fun to just experiment with that duality. I'm always interested in, I've always said that I am exactly that of a comedy tragedy mask, those like, you know, the the theatrical. Yeah, and that was playing out in in your video for sure, the how your faces were painted and all of that.
00:13:22
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I was like, okay, Bob's also to the point of, okay, which one's which, right? Because- Right. And that's what I love. I love playing with that element and loving mime and, and, um, Bhutto and all of these other forms of expression. We, we got to really experiment together and create shapes and duality together. And it was very healing. Just even the whole process of just creation was, was really beautiful. So I, okay. Cause yeah I was watching that and thinking, first of all, everyone talks about how video shoots drag.
00:13:58
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And they, and I'm like, oh, so there she is. She's probably getting water dumped on her. Like for like how many hours and that must've sucked, but. No, I loved it. I was fantastic. Oh, okay. Oh, I loved every second of making that video. I, the rain was warm. Um, I'm a, I'm a water baby. I, if I could do everything in a bathtub, I would, in fact, I do. Uh, I will sit. Are you a water sign? I'm a Gemini, I'm an air sign, but i'm i water is definitely like ah um I grew up you know taking baths because I wanted to be a mermaid. So I'd be like in the bath forever. you know And now that I'm an adult, like I could never eat dinner in my bath, but I would have. And now that I'm an adult, I can do whatever I want. So of course, I have dinner
Themes in 'Good Things'
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in the bath. I watch a movie in the bath.
00:14:45
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Um, I love going to spas. I love sitting in the Jacuzzi for hours. I want to, I want to, I want to be a prune. no I want to be in the water so long that I come out. and Okay. So there's, I'm just hitting the pause button. There's a movie you need to see. Tell me called local hero. Okay. Um, It's about this guy, he goes up to discuss with a ah small village up just outside of Aberdeen, Scotland, the purchase of the land so they could do some drilling.
00:15:17
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Okay. And he gets very, he's, he's a yank and he goes up there with a Scottish kid to, to work with the locals. And he's, he's trying to figure out how to work this business deal and all the locals are so ready to sell them their property and get out of town. And, and the the Scottish kid is with him actually, he's the guy who ended up playing Dr. Who and Malcolm Tucker and all that. And I can't remember his name at the moment, but There's a scene in there where he's trying to hit on this girl only to realize she's a mermaid. And it's the funniest, like he's just going along talking to her and all of a sudden like, whoa, mermaid. It's just- Oh my God, yes, I have to watch. Any mermaid movie I must watch. It's called Local Hero. Okay, I wrote it down. It's very subtle, but when you get to it, you will just die. You especially are gonna like laugh your ass off when he gets to the mermaid scene.
00:16:11
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You'd be like, oh, whoa, wait, to so you know. but Who knows? That might make its way into some other video now. Locally, hero. so And ah it was it there was a terrific movie. It was like, um soundtrack was by Mark Knopfler from Dire Straits. I don't know if you're a Dire Straits fan. Like my but my dad loved all things Scotland, right? and So he you know we brought home and watched the movie, loved it. Anyway, you're gonna love that movie. Go watch it. Okay, so. On my list. It's on my list. There you go, Miss Mermaid. Okay, so um back to that song. yeah
00:16:49
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I've noticed between that and a couple of other songs of yours, you have a juxtaposition in your lyrics, right? Good and bad, you know, and and it's you you pull the extremes in it. Excuse me. Sorry, all those bubbles you made me swallow and go through my brain are bouncing around to my chest now. All right. um
00:17:15
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Your line, which you had just alluded to it earlier. I used to love October, changing leaves in Halloween. The month I was almost a mother. Now little pumpkins mean something different to me.
00:17:30
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That ripped my guts out. Because I know what it meant. Yeah.
00:17:39
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And then you said later on, the could have been still makes me cry. I mean, how did you pull these lyrics together for- You know, it's, ah um I could cry, just talking about it. But, um you know, the gift that my father gave me, which we can talk about him in a little while, but my father, who was a songwriter- And he was Irish. He was Jewish, so my mom oh my ah mom's the Irish side, my dad's the the the Russian
Songwriting as Healing
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Jew.
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um And he he would talk about the part of you that just, like when the lyric comes out of you and it's like you just literally, the emotion just swelled up hot heart high and and full enough that it makes this, expression you know like a perfect expression and and as a writer there's a lot of times that you can get stuck with like how I'm going to express something and the those lines were just the way that they came out it was just like
00:18:54
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Oh my God, thank you. Thank you self vessel spiritual whatever creative energy that came through me because it, it, it healed me so much to just say that in that way. um in such a simple way but you know, i had I had put myself through a songwriting workshop that I have taught before. And ideally, when you're writing a song, or, or you know, usually, if it's if you're not like, I need to write a song today, that's going to be a number one hit, you know, if you're just
00:19:30
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creatively expressing and be out of an emotional state, then usually what comes out of that is very organic and natural. you know um Sometimes we have to coax it. Sometimes we have to bait the butterfly to bring out um what we really want to say. um And so what I did for myself was I took myself through a few steps in a process that I created to just yeah To try to teach someone how to be creative is really interesting because it's actually just, it's calling on their subconscious because the creativity is just within us. And so crystallizing what that process is, is all has is it is a forever changing journey for me. But I found that it's through asking yourself questions that maybe we do unconsciously as we're creating.
00:20:24
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but really pinpointing it and asking myself and at this specific time that I wrote this, what was what was I feeling? like what was all What were all the feelings I was feeling? And I just vomited everything that I was feeling out of me onto the page. And It was a lot of things. It was what was going on with Israel and Gaza. It was going with the fact that I still had't had a home haven't had a home in a really long time. um It was that I had been, you know, extremely betrayed. And it was that it was October and I had just received an email um that I had signed up for when I thought I was gonna be a mom about breast pumps.
00:21:14
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and diapers, you know, and it was like all of these things that I had been planning for um weren't happening and how much my life had had changed. um And so I was feeling so many things. I was feeling so much grief around um my personal life and the world's, the world's loss and the world's grief and the violence and the betrayal that goes on within countries.
Personal Experiences and Cultural Significance
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So there was like a micro to the macro. um But the simplistic, the simplistic part of the song for me when it comes to the the little pumpkins, you know, it's like,
00:21:57
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the idea of life and death, you know like this idea that something could have been started at this point where I was feeling so much loss, like that this idea that something was growing and stopped. And so it just came out of me in a way that um of what I thought was going to be, you know, and and and the hope of that. And the hope of that, I think whatever children symbolize, you know, um whatever new life, you know, there's so many different ways of looking at new life, you know, um in nature and how. ah but you're You're saying changing leaves in Halloween, you know, and yeah, that's, that's you know, the change of the seasons and all that, of course,
00:22:50
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I mean, yeah, I mean, i'm I'm an October baby, you know, so my ah Halloween's always right there close to my birthday. So yeah, I mean, and also Halloween then meant all these different things to me too, you know, because it's all it's like right by the day of the dead, you know, it's like, It's all the veil, you know, being lifted and this opportunity to connect to are the ones that have passed so I mean there were so many things with that for me, and I ended up going to Mexico for the Day of the Dead, and had a ritual.
00:23:27
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in one of the the cemeteries um for my father and for the energy because I can't really call it a child or spirit, um but the energy that passed through me. Well, the could have been still makes me cry that that you can apply to so many things in life, you know, and I mean, you obviously have no filter, you're gonna just say what's on your mind. Oh yeah, no filter. I'm sure they tried to give you one for your birthday and you asked for the gift receipt back, right? Can I have the gift receipt if I want to take this back? but You know, there are some things that i I'm learning to keep to myself now, but I i definitely shot out of the womb like, you know,
00:24:16
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ah not hiding much, but I think as I've gotten older, I can respect levels of privacy in a different way. But I think when it comes down to um vulnerability, I know that it's my strength. I know that it's the way that I connect to other human
Vulnerability and Connection
00:24:33
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beings. um it's an out It's an opportunity to um allow other people to be vulnerable that need to be when you're able to step into that space. you know I worked with kids incarcerated for six years and the tool that I will say 100% every single time was when I shared something that I struggled with, with them, it allowed them to feel you know safer and less alone in the process.
00:25:07
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of expression and just in their own life, you know. Are you a Killing Joke fan? What? They're a band. I don't know them. See, going on my. la Yeah, go on the list. Killing Joke song is called You'll Never Get To Me. Go listen to that. It's I will. Yeah. Yeah. um Bob Geldof, you better know who that guy is. um Bob Geldof.
00:25:36
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i Hey, listen, I know, I probably know something that you don't know, okay? Bob Geldof is, ah you remember Live Aid? You remember that? Live Aid, that right. So he put that whole thing together because he was pissed off. All right. He he saw something, got really mad and then wrote, that him and Midge wrote the song, all the right. Bob Geldof is a guy who's driven by anger to do the good things in the world, right? Because he just gets pissed off. And he he will offend everybody in the best ways possible. Like you just gotta to cheer him on for being so blunt.
Musical Diversity
00:26:15
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I mean, he was he was shaking hands with the the the president of Ethiopia and he had just gotten the amnesty report on the guy about what a terror and what a dictator he was. And he got off shaking his hand and goes, you're a cunt, just right to his face. I'm like, yeah, Bob, you know. but
00:26:33
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This is, this applies to you. He said he was, he was talking about this other Irish band called the pokes, which they're actually, they're called pogma home, which means kiss my ass in Irish. yeah And he was like, you know, he was like, you know, the thing is, is quietly and politely keeping our thoughts to ourselves. That's something we Irish have never been very good at. Right. And so that is you. That is so you. I'm like, yeah, that's the Irish in you. um Completely. Yeah, they're hood. The Irish are hood through and through. Not the Irish that are influenced by the English, but like the real Irish. ah Yeah, no, but yeah, quietly and quietly keeping our thoughts to ourself is something we Irish have never been very good at. That's a great line. It's just the truth. I mean, yeah, i I'm half Scottish and and we're we're just as rude and ruthless as, you know,
00:27:25
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um So, uh, let me dive into another, uh, okay. This is what I thought was cool about you going through your catalog. Oh yes, my catalog. You did running up that hill before stranger things. And I have all the mad love for Kate Bush. And so I just pulled you up on bandcamp and start digging through. Oh, you mean, oh my. um Yes. You Oh, no, I did ah you the covers that I did. Yes. Yes. You did a cover of running up that hill. That was so cool. No, I did a cover of crowns of love.
00:28:06
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Wait, wait, no, hold on. Was it Hounds of Love or Running Up That Hill? Let me go back to that. It's Hounds of Love. and That's right. Yes, Hounds of Love. It's Running Up The Hills on the record. But yes, so there you are. Actually, I am going to do it. I love Running Up That Hill so much. who So there you are. This is my daughter just walking. Here, give him to me. Sorry, I'm giving you the dog. OK. See that? Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. How cute is that pup? No, he's a Tasmanian devil. Ah, he's so cute, oh my God. Yeah, he's a Tasmanian devil. He just goes around looking for things to wrap his teeth around. Adorable. So, yes, so there you are band camp. I'm on your band camp page. And I'm just like going through, I'm like, oh my gosh, this girl is just, there is no limit to where you're gonna, you don't believe in limits,
Song 'Boy Brains' and Live Performances
00:29:03
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do you? When when you're like, I'm gonna do this, it's gonna sound,
00:29:07
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however the hell it's gonna sound. Cause I can't really apply a style to what you, what you, your sound, you know what I mean? um It's, ah it's like, it's always been a, I, that's why I, so I think that the sentence that applies to me the most that makes me feel the most safe is I'm an actress of music. I think that I, I think that the song is the film and I play the role. You play the role. Okay. Uh, then with that, um, okay. I'm just all right. If that's the case, if that's the case, let's talk about boy brains.
00:29:54
Speaker
Oh, okay. So when I first read the title, I thought, okay, she's going to be making fun of boys and that all the boys want to think about his cars and boobs, right? That's because that's typically what's on boy brains, right? You know, and I, and I was like, Oh no, it's not about that. It's not about, and so I, I watched the video and I laughed. Okay. So obviously it was done at your club, right? It was done at, yeah okay. with all the dancers. All the redheads. And I i have a dangerous fetish for redheads. So like ah bear the ba oh I Oh, I was like, this is not good for me. This is, you know, and.
00:30:38
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i was I mean you guys obviously would have had a lot of fun with that song but let's see let let let me just the brains on all those guys when you call I change my plans you got me right in the palm of your hands you give me boy brains I have to be honest uh let's see when when I saw the title I thought she'd make fun of what boys were always thinking um it was so funny I was watching this going Cause there you are cutting brains out of heads and all that, right? Just, and then there was the line, let's see, Mary, Jack and Jane throw them back. They don't use my paint. Those aren't about people, right? Mary, Jack and Jane. Those were not about people, right? No, it's about drugs. Yeah. That's what I thought.
00:31:22
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Oh, wait, Molly, Jack and Mary jack and marie Jane. Yeah. I like, well, Jack is probably Jack Daniels. I know what Mary Jane is. Well, I don't know what Molly is, but I'm sure it's, it's X to say, Oh, that's X. Really? Yeah. You don't know what Molly, how old are you?
00:31:41
Speaker
I'm 50, but I never did drugs. The most I did was drink a lot of joke Cola in high school. And yeah, i I've only done Molly twice of my life. And one time it didn't work. And the other time it was a surprise. And, uh, Jake shears from the scissor sisters handed me a glass of champagne, which is what I thought was champagne. And I drank it and he just looked at me like this. And I was like, what? He's like. Have fun. Just wait for it. I was like, why didn't you tell me? And he's like, well, I knew you wouldn't drink it if I told you. And I was like, that's kind of, that shouldn't be illegal, but I was so happy he didn't tell me because i I would not have done it. And I did, and I was in Spain and we had just finished one of our last tours. And I was in a club with like beautiful gay men who just wanted to like dance and rub on me, but like had no other intentions.
00:32:35
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So I felt very safe. So you just hit the jackpot right there. It was great. We just were like, I was just in a pool of like men, but it was a completely safe scenario, you know? Um, I loved it. Yeah. So yeah, being in the scissor sisters, I guess you're, um you're, you're the, oh, the woman is in the scissor sisters, which, okay. I learned very from the very beginning and you, you personality wise, you obviously fit it. Don't take those guys seriously, right? The scissor sisters are just out for fun.
Music Production and Collaboration
00:33:05
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and they're just going to make great music and have a good time but oh my god yes we had the best time on tour it was one of my most favorite moments of my life you know um
00:33:16
Speaker
they're all each of everybody that's a part of that band, but each I had a relationship with each of them and in in different ways. And um yeah, I love them. So were you just touring member or were you studio for scissor sisters as well? I did. um I did some studio work for them with on baby come home. Okay. um I forget all the other songs on that album, but for that album, I sang on that album. Because I remember seeing the video for Tiki. Tiki. Tiki, and it was like, okay, this is the silliest, dumbest. Yeah, we didn't think- Oh God, this is funny. This is so funny, but yeah. Yeah, we didn't think when we did that video that that was like,
00:34:00
Speaker
the only video that we were gonna do, you know? Like it ended up being like, oh, that's it. And then it was like such a success. And they were like, oh yeah. We're not going to do another one. This is it. And I remember they were so sweet. They were like, we took we chose the take. Cause we did like, I don't know how many takes of it, but there is in that take, I think Dell or baby daddy drops his, I think, I think Dell drops his stick or something. Something got dropped and they were like, we chose the one where Dell
00:34:32
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Just because like there was one that I had like messed up and they were like we wanted to make sure that you were perfect. i but but he leave the word where the stick fell so we We were like we let Dell drop his stick because you were in the front and we needed you to you know and I was like oh thank you for that I appreciate it. Oh wow because yeah so. Yeah, the Scissors Sisters were one that I remember hearing the name and I was like, right. Oh, then let's see what they're about. Listen to it. And oh, man, there there was just no reason to take them seriously. They were just so fun. So much fun. And and I think that.
00:35:10
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that is like once I was a part of that band, it kind of pushed me into my creativity in a different way because before that I was doing everything kind of separately as an artist. So I have been an actor since I was a child. And so I would be in a film and I would do TV and I would do theater, you know, and then I would do poetry readings and then I would go play my guitar or then I'd sing with a band or I'd do a house song and everything was all in these separate containers. And then once I was with them, I was like, oh, I can put all of these things together. And that's what I had always wanted to do. um And so I started to take myself seriously in a different way as like this multifaceted artist.
00:35:56
Speaker
um and which may also pushed me to the filmmaker side of me, which was I went to film school, I made short films and things like, and experimental films. And I was like, oh, I can make my own music videos and do whatever I want in them and ah get to play characters in my music too, you know? So, being with them really opened my, my my from it reflected back to me who I was always, and then just showed me that, that gave me permission in a way.
00:36:28
Speaker
Right, because a woman with a bunch of out of control game and pushing sheer creativity. where but Where on earth would that take you, right? Of course. um It was such a fun. I enjoyed the video for that. And but I just, remember I mean, just to go back to what you were saying about the drug, thing I mean, the boy brains, the I love the origin story of this. So I was with one of my best friends um at a diner that used to exist. Now it's another restaurant, but it was 7A and it was like on first, on Avenue A, obviously in 7th street. okay And um it was like a 24 hour diner. So, you know, we would meet up after going out or something and we'd meet up there. And we were there one late night and I was talking to her about a guy that I am still was still obsessed with. um And she's like, oh, you got boy brains. And I was like, what?
00:37:22
Speaker
And she's like, boy brains, but it's just like the boy goes into your brain or takes it out. And wipes out all sensibility. yeah All senses, you know, are gone. And I wrote the song that night. um And I like made a track for it it when I got home. Cause I was like, I knew it wasn't on the guitar and it had been, and it evolved evolved many times. After I wrote wrotede it that night, I ended up playing it on guitar a bunch of times and you know creating my own loop pedals and doing all these different things and then I worked with a producer and then I didn't love what he did so I reproduced it myself and added all these sound effects and you know that's kind of a lot of my journey as a creative I will work with people and then
00:38:10
Speaker
be like no I'm the producer you know like I'm still the overarching voice of this even though and it's usually like I work with male producers and then take my stuff back and be like oh yeah no I need this needs to be more me so I ended up obviously over years learning how to produce my own tracks um And that allowed me to, you know, especially when I had a very clear vision on how I wanted a song to sound, that I could communicate it to someone I worked with, or you just work with an engineer on getting the right sound quality and mixes for things that I had created. But with this production, um with good with good things,
00:38:55
Speaker
um I chose a song that I had not lived with long enough to have the sound that I wanted. So I really let myself, because I wrote it on a guitar and I have an acoustic version that I just put on my Bandcamp. And it was very different. There was a whole bridge. It was slower. It was a different vibe altogether. But I could hear what I wanted it to become.
DIY Music Video Production
00:39:22
Speaker
And I i reached out to this producer, Austin Bello, who was out in Virginia. And a friend of mine had sent him over to me. And I was like, you know, I feel like he could capture the sound that I want for this. And I knew it was not an acoustic ballad. I knew it needed to be
00:39:40
Speaker
an uptempo moving song to release the energy instead of just being sent. So yeah, it was just a cool it was a cool experiment to like let myself not know exactly how I wanted it to sound. I gave him like a few um song references that I liked of like quality. um And I just went down there and we did it in two days. and so Okay, so good things was done in Virginia with you not really knowing fully how, because you said you hadn't lived with it long enough. i had I wrote it in October, we produced it in November. And that was the first time I had just, I really let go of my my um complete, but I will say this, it it is it's finding people that you trust their instinct, you know?
00:40:34
Speaker
um and trusting your own instincts. And when I went there with him, he started taking the song on a certain journey and all of a sudden it was gonna be a Bruce Springsteen song. And it was like 1990. And I was sitting there going, hmm. And I knew that it wasn't right. I didn't say anything yet. I was letting him go where he wanted to go. And then he caught himself in the process and he's like, this has been it. And I was like, you're right, it's not. He's like, all right, let me start over. And he literally, we just went back and found it.
Teaching and Emotional Expression
00:41:10
Speaker
And I was really, really happy with it. ah he's chewing on cable stuff Don't eat anything.
00:41:17
Speaker
Here, do you want to hold him for a minute? Oh, I wish I could, trust. Puppy therapy. ah Yeah, he's chewing on my hand right now. um So let's see, you did? Okay, so boy brains, fabulous video. That was for me, the dude with the fetish for redheads, so awesome. ah And obviously you got the point across, hey, I'm kind of lost. I'm kind of giving up on thinking. And see my daughter walks around saying that she's boy crazy. And I'm like, yeah. yeah it's the boy works yeah I mean, I definitely, it's also like, you know, i I don't, I've never really been addicted to anything except for a boy.
00:42:04
Speaker
So that's part of it. It's like, it's the drugs. And um I did see this photo of an old film where the girl's head is on a slab. And I was like, I need to recreate. Yeah, that video, that part was like, I mean, that whole video set looked like it was fun to make other than you just- Oh, it was so DIY. Where you're there with the headphones and the wire. Oh yeah, those, I know. That was me in my house, like, oh, I'll just put silver tape. You know, it was so DIY. I kind of love how like messed up it looked. And it's funny because Beyonce did something similar in this past tour and she has the same thing, but it's like perfect. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Like professionally made and yeah.
00:42:47
Speaker
I liked it like a side-by-side photo, because there's been a few photos, um pieces that she's done. Like she had this one piece where she had all these roses, like, you know, flying off of her. And I had done the same thing, but it's all DIY all the time, you know? um Like me, like literally putting petals, like gluing petals onto myself. Oh, the things you do for the art. i yeah yeah and i when When I interviewed Stella Rose, um David Gahn from the Peshmoto and even his daughter, right? She was like, we had to stitch my underwear on for that video. I couldn't drink anything all day because we had to stitch it on.
00:43:26
Speaker
like What'd you do for the art, right? You know, you got, Oh yeah, no, what the photo shoot with the roses I laid and it was for a promo shoot for my last show that I did a Joe's pub. And I wanted to look like Jesus coming out of the dirt covered in roses with a crown on, you know, and I went out into my friend's backyard in the winter. ah January in New Hampshire and laid in a fucking pile of dirt and it was frozen. i My body was like, like it's to thaw myself out in that shower was so painful. But
Influences and Artistic Community
00:44:07
Speaker
yes, me for the art was very real, was very real.
00:44:11
Speaker
So, and but probably, okay, probably not as much much fun as, okay, like like you said, ah being on Ecstasy, just being doted on by a bunch of gay men. I mean, that's every woman's dream right there, you know, like a room full of gay men. I'm on Ecstasy, nobody's gonna bother me, we're gonna dance till, that right, that just, that you gotta write a song about that, by the way, go on. I think you're right, I think I should. Like I was, I was interviewing Alison Arngram from a little house on the prairie. She played Nellie on the house of the prairie. Do you know? her Oh my God. I love. Okay. And she was telling me about when she, the guy who was playing her husband, she, they, they went and crashed a party in his house. Cause she's like, there's some up with this guy, right? You know, like ah there's something going on. So they crashed a party at his house. She said, we get there.
00:45:01
Speaker
And the place is just stacked wall to wall with gorgeous gay men. And I was like, you hit the jackpot. She's like, yes, I did. Yeah. But, you know, and she's at the end and the next day she was up on set and said, so I guess you figure it out. She's like, no, really. But, you know, like there, what woman wouldn't want to be just in a room loaded with gorgeous gay men? Just all, you know. So, yeah, write a song about that. I love that idea and and I think i can you know it can be an honor because I think the times when I was going through like periods of celibacy or periods of like recovering from heartbreak or or recovering from an addiction to a person,
00:45:42
Speaker
you know the affection that I had with the gay men in my life was so valuable to me like those hugs and those handholds you know because they they're still men they still have got masculine bodies that you know feel differently and they don't want to just fuck you and leave you. They want to just show you love. And I just feel like, you know, so blessed for all of the relationships I have with gay men in my life, including my godfather, who um I gave him that name.
00:46:15
Speaker
I met him when i when my him and my mom became friends in high school. And he kind of brought me into the New York City gay club scene life when I was in high school. like I used to go see drag queens that were his friends, um like Lady Bonnie and Joey Arias. And before Joey Arias and I ended up singing together you know later on in life. But I was just kind of welcomed and ushered into this beautiful world of creativity through my godfather. who is my first, um well not my first, I guess like high school, I had a gay best friend too. um A lot of gay kids in theater school that were my best friends and summer camp and stuff too. Yeah, I'm i'm the outspoken gay ally. I mean, um I'm such an obnoxious gay ally that I even annoy gay people.
00:47:06
Speaker
You know, they like, all right, we get it. You want us to have our right. Yes. Yes. You love us. Great. Yeah. you love us Okay. shot Maybe you should dress better. like but i um bell But anytime I take my wife out to one of the, one of the, the queer events, right? They all just, I'm like, You know, they'll just flock to her. They will. They're all, um they'll love my wife and I just kind of, okay, I'll just be over here taking pictures. since you guys saw you know So, uh, let's see. what What I was going to say was your Kate Bush cover was very Laurie Anderson ask. And I hope that you got that as the compliment that I meant for it to be.
00:47:52
Speaker
Oh my God, do I ever, Laurie Anderson is also another like heroine of mine for sure. i what I did that cover because I was doing the Kate Bushwick festival in Bushwick, obviously. i say ah i had they I had done it, I think the year before and I did a cover of the the man with the child in his eyes. ah And so I had decided to make tracks for them instead of performing them live, like playing guitar or something like that. And I was like, oh, um you know, I'm going to just make an interesting track and just experiment. And that was really in a very heightened experimental phase. And I was listening to Laurie Anderson. but but Obviously it bled through because that was that's so cool. I love that.
00:48:40
Speaker
Well, okay um' I mean, who doesn't love Laurie, right? if you but But I mean, Lou Reed is the God of rock and roll. And so it's the fact that she was married to Lou Reed, you know, but I have I have like crates of Laurie. records and CDs. I've got her autographed on, you know, I mean, I just love her. She's the, you know. Yeah. She's a genius. I, her, you know, there's a lot, she's made of her way into a lot of undercurrents with things that I've done, even in boy brands. Honestly, when I perform that live, I do like weird things with my voice. I have like a voice box. I want to see that. I want to see you live. So I'm on the guest list to ever make it out to New York. All right. Yeah, of course. Totally.
00:49:22
Speaker
So. Yeah, I like to do experimental things that go through, like I have a show tonight, um but it's more just of like me and the band, but I'll still be doing some experimental things, um adding in a little bit of burlesque, but not so much with electronic stuff, but I, that is something that I miss that I haven't been like that Laurie, that part of me, that's the Laurie Anderson tech techy techy music nerd girl.
Soul Rock Influences
00:49:50
Speaker
and So okay, here's here's the other weird band. that Have you ever heard the residents? Going on my list. Got to get on that list. So they're the San Francisco male version of Lori Anderson. Okay. So they're they're the guys that the pick sees the puddle surfers, the dead milk men, all these other, like all the weird bizarre avant-garde bands. They all got into the, Oh, I need to give it all to me. Give me all the weight.
00:50:18
Speaker
Yeah, go get into the residence, right? If you like, yeah. So I'm like, they're just like Lori Anderson, but with a more bizarre twist on their shit, you know? And you're like, sign me up. Yes. Got to get the residence. Want the weird. I want, give me the weird. Give me the crazy and the weird. Yeah. No, the residents are your thing. They've been around 50 years and I interviewed them a while back too. Okay. Original face. All right. Oh yeah. the good Okay. That was like late seventies soul rock. That's been lost. I heard it in that was so beautiful. So good. When, when they, and I'm not, they're going to rip on Beyonce on this episode, but, um, um, I gave up on soul early to mid eighties soul rock, whatever. It just,
00:51:19
Speaker
It stopped having soul to it, right? And it's only been just recently that I've heard bands or musicians that have been able to keep it and put it back in there. And I'm like, wow, this
Philosophical Themes in 'Original Face'
00:51:30
Speaker
girl's got it. That song was 1978, just amazing right there. So i love that thank you. I actually recorded that with one of the scissor sisters, John Garden, he was the the MD and the keyboard player and scissor sisters. And I went to England. And we worked on that song. And then I did what I do what I was doing at the time, which is I took what he did, and I flipped it around.
00:51:59
Speaker
and I, you know, remixed it and I had, I brought in another drummer who could create, you know, more interesting. And then I i use a theremin, I use this old 80s keyboard that I got off of eBay um that like you have to program the sound. It was such a crazy keyboard that I have. It's been stored now, but I had a lot of fun remixing that after we had worked on it in England. And it all started on the guitar, um you know, a year or two years, maybe before that. But it came from um something that um um that I just say that the line then. Yeah. Can I ask the like kids i ah kiss me naked in my summer dress. You can have it all. Ain't no secret. Who am I for the moment?
00:52:53
Speaker
what a lie. I just that's quite a line in there. Who am I for the moment? If I understood that that was if I got that one correctly, but what was wait that? No, no, that was in love is in my eyes. Sorry. Yeah, i was in love is mine i would like that yeah that was the other great soul song there. But um who am I for the moment? What was the Okay. Finish the original face and then tell me where, what love is in my eyes was all going through as well. All right. So original face, the, the lyric.
00:53:26
Speaker
What do you look like with no face, no man, no woman, the same. We are everything and nothing. Let's go back back to theater. That's my musical theater moment. My hair musical theater moment. No, that, so that the whole idea of original face came from a conversation I had with my sister-in-law's stepfather, random. Think off your suit, loosen the noose, the original face, under the skin, under him. like loosened the okay jack go yeah that That whole concept was born out of a conversation I had with my step sister's, uncle ah my sister-in-law's stepfather, who was a meditation teacher. And he he he asked me the question, who were you before your mother and father were born?
00:54:21
Speaker
And then I researched this whole concept, this Buddhist concept of what the original face is. And um the idea the idea of the of your identity beyond male or female, beyond what you gained from your mother and father's lineage or their experiences, who you are beyond the story of who you are, if that makes sense.
Women's Experiences in Music
00:54:47
Speaker
look Okay, take off your suit, loosen the noose. Okay. Man, those are like, you come up with some pretty intense lyrics. You're, you know, when you want to let those fly, you you got your moments, man. um So love is in my eyes. Yeah. Talk about that one for a minute, because it's totally like boy brains, but probably a little more serious.
00:55:10
Speaker
Um, that literally came from an experience I had when I was on the road with scissor sisters with a guy that I met in London. And he said to me, you gotta stay away from those guys, man. He goes, you're looking at me like you got love in your eyes. And I went, Oh, and I wiped my eye. And I was like, no, I think that's you. Um, Ha ha ha ha. And ah no, so a lot of the things that are literally in that lyric. What was the lyric you were talking about? Kiss me. Kiss me naked in my summer dress. Yeah, that was because he said to me. You put your summer dress on.
00:55:59
Speaker
And I did, I wore a summer dress for him, you know, like I wanted and to go get ice cream and go on a date with him and have this, you know, magical, loving experience that he kept separating himself from because he was terrified to fall in love with me because I was on tour with a band and he thought I was gonna like, you know, I don't know, sleep with everyone on the road and never come back to him. So he sabotaged our love.
00:56:31
Speaker
That's the bottom line. So usually it's, you know, that it's, it's the girl falls in love with the guy who's out on tour. And that's all, you know, or Oh no, no, no. This is like, well, like the the movie almost famous. I actually did that with the band. I did that with the band. Like I was out there on the road with this band capturing the whole story, doing video and audio for them. And, and there were the girls that were there. And one of them, I was like, Oh, Yeah, this is so painful watching what's going on here. If you saw Almost Famous, then you know what it was. Of course. I mean, you know, that's the funny thing is like, you know, it's it was an interesting dynamic to be the one that was the one that was being sought after. But yeah, you were the band member that that the straight guy was chasing after because but you know, but we all we all know they weren't going for the guys in the band, you know.
00:57:28
Speaker
You know, that's the thing is like ah he thought that like I was going to be around, you know, or whatever he thought. It doesn't matter what he thought. He he was insecure and that was unfortunate for him because I was very I was into him. I didn't need to meet other people on the road. That wasn't my vibe, you know. um But that song was really about him. And I think there was like a line about Rose or something. There's like a line about roses in that. but there's you know i mean there was like there was it was every almost every line was a direct reference to that experience that i had with him wow because she i'm going to tell you this this is a secret in the industry okay for every stage store johnny and every fan the girls in the band are always unreachable untouchable no guy's ever going to win the heart of the girl in the band on tour
00:58:17
Speaker
you know we all just think no like we're just we're we are the guys in the band can have all the girls on the road but the girls in the band no way are they going to stoop so low as to fall for some stage tour johnny right and that's just how we've all thought that you know and that was what i grew up knowing and thinking seeing bands and meeting all these wonderful musicians i'm like She'd never want to make out with a guy like me. You know, so it's like the girl but the girls on the band, you know, I mean, it's like, there's a few things about it, right? Because also, I'm like, I'm with a gay band, right? So our fans and people are who are coming to a lot of these concerts, right?
00:58:53
Speaker
Sure, there was a lot of lesbians who wanted to to hang out with me, but like after her show, andnna but then there's animatronics. She's like every dude's like, you know, she's the charisma. She's got everybody's eyes. She's, she's hilarious, you know, hilarious. And she's also but is a very married woman, you know, and like, It's so like us hanging out after the show wasn't like a party, you know, we were like, all right, we're gonna eat our chicken and our salad because our trainer told us to and now we're going to bed. You know, like, it was like, yeah, we would hang sometimes we'd have long hangs on the tour bus or whatever, you know, but it wasn't like we were going out and being crazy with like random people, you know, there was
00:59:36
Speaker
I mean, everybody did their own thing. you know not I'm not going to say that it was all you know peachy keen. And I definitely had some fun on my on the tour once I realized that this guy wasn't going to be my boyfriend.
00:59:50
Speaker
So I was like, all right, I guess I'm going to find somebody to make out with in Copenhagen and Cologne and wherever. Copenhagen, wherever. But I mean, I do, for me, when I wrote that song, I felt very at peace because a lot of the times I have experiences and if I can't make a song about it, I'm like, I have so much angst.
Songwriting and Emotional Alchemy
01:00:18
Speaker
It feels so good to capture a feeling in a song. Like it is- Oh, and that is something you are oh, so good at. If there's one thing you can you can capture that feeling in those words, oh man.
01:00:32
Speaker
Yes, you are the pro at that. So again, we we don't have time where we're coming on time, but I'm thinking I want to ask you about your, your songwriting classes, all that. You just, you probably are like, here, write a song. It's going to rip your guts out. It's going to make you feel so much better once it's all over, like the ananalic line, you know, these words are my diary screaming out loud. I'm putting it out there. And once it's out there, you'll use them against me any way that you want to, you know, I don't know if you know that song, but it's ah now I'm like, I gotta go back and put it on my listing. It's called Breathe by Anna Nalik.
01:01:10
Speaker
she's She's your neighbor, she's in upstate New York. Oh, cool, I'm gonna check her out for sure. Yeah, so breathe by Anna and Alec. I will say this, that that I had one experience with the kid that I worked with, that this distills the exact experience. By the way, God bless you for doing that, by the way. If you're you're out there giving of yourself like that to help these kids, man, I'd like another high five and I wanna give you a big hug, cause you're awesome. life-changing and I'll tell you the one little ah one short story a moment that I experienced with a young man was my first week working in the detention center and I saw this guy who was sitting in the corner with this piece of paper and he was very quiet
01:01:52
Speaker
And we were writing group songs, but he looked at me, I went over to him, I'm like, what's this? And he's like, it's a song I wrote. And so I i took him to another room and I said, okay, like, what do you wanna do with it? And he's like, I wrote this song so that I could cry. And I said, all right, let's let's do it yeah do it. And so we I explained to him, I was like, you know writing this song, what you just said is so profound because you know that he's he was emotionally stuck, the fact that he was aware that he couldn't cry, that he had all this guilt and this shame about his life. And the song was taught was talking about that shame, about how he had all this regret of what he has done and you know all of that.
01:02:38
Speaker
and I said, by writing this song and and performing it and recording it, you're doing something called alchemy. And I explained to him what alchemy is, it's turning a stone into gold. And when we finally recorded the song and he listened back to it, i I turn around and then I look at him and he's just streaming tears. And I went over to him, like, you're not really allowed to hug the kids, you know, but I was like, I looked at the correctional officer and I was like,
01:03:09
Speaker
I'm gonna hug him, you know? Like, I'm sorry. And so I gave him, you know, a hug and he just cried. And we got a chance to perform the song for the whole detention center and for everybody that I worked with at Carnegie Hall that came to experience the song process, songwriting that we did. And when they asked him what was the inspiration behind the song, he looked at me and said, alchemy. And that was it. And it was just one of the most profound moments. And I can say to this day, like he's the one kid that I'm still in contact with. he's got He got out. he's We started a college fund for him. um He's a dad now. He's raising his son on his own.
01:03:57
Speaker
um it's a very like that journey and and his life and his life of and the story of who he is will forever be a part of what i want to give to people because he taught me what alchemy is and so shout out to Hassan always and forever my kid and um oh so he's gonna hear this obviously go ahead i get yeah I'll tell him, you know, I always tell him that i I talk about him and that he is a teacher and he's become a teaching artist as well himself. cool great So he is he's had quite a journey, you know, and I've just, and it's a reminder for me all the time. And I think for every, everybody that what is even what this song Good Things is about is that we can acknowledge the fucked up shit that's in our own lives, that's in the world.
Future Projects and Upcoming Releases
01:04:49
Speaker
and all the beautiful things and still find and a way to focus on the good and the light because we can't stay in the dark. We can't just be in the anger. We have to let the anger fuel us to create change or else what the hell are we doing here? Well, that was Bob Gildof, so. But no, Bob, he he saw the starvation in Africa, got pissed off, had a concert for it, you know, raised hundreds of millions of dollars for it. And and and and still had the nerve to call the president of Ethiopia what did.
01:05:24
Speaker
so paul Call out injustice. Oh yeah. Guildoff is that guy. He's like, when I was in high school, I actually had a car named Bob that we named after Bob Gildoff. Like, I'm like, I'm such a huge Gildoff fan. It's ridiculous. I love that. But, uh, okay. So out of all the majestic catalog, I'm opening the show with good things. What do you want me to close this out with?
01:05:51
Speaker
what everybody plays out with. Cause there was, I mean, there's some funny stuff in there and I didn't even get to talk to you about ah meet Nora, right? Like some of those that pop up. There was one that had your name attached to it. Your love is so good. Was that for a game? That was like, whoa. That one, I mean, it's, I didn't write that. You just sang it, okay. I just sang it, yeah. Cause I was like, but that, that had that totally burlesque vibe to it. That was totally, I was like, that's something she would have done at her club for sure, man. Oh, for sure. No, I i do love that song that I didn't write that one. um I guess close it, close it with the original face maybe.
01:06:39
Speaker
Okay, I will close this out with original face. So thank you so much, Bridget. Everybody, this is Bridget Barkan, and this has been the most unusual conversation I did not adhere to. I didn't adhere to any of the questions I was really thinking. They didn't go in order anyway, so we had a great time. I love it. And you're doing a show tonight, tour? Anything like that? Or? Not right now, no. But I plan on doing shows as I can. And I have another single coming out soon called Heartbroken Ones. So look out for that. Okay, what's the ETA on that?
01:07:16
Speaker
Um, I am not sure. I've got to talk to Ray about it, but I'm the greedy bastard. I'm usually going, Hey man, what do you got for me? Like, come on. No, we're, where I, I got to finish the music video first, which I'm doing in July. No, give me the audio. If the audio is ready, I want that. So I'll, I'll go knocking on his door for it. So yeah, I'm excited, excited about it. i'm I'm already a fan. You can tell that about me, not just cause you're red head. I love what you do. Your music's fabulous. So, all right, everybody take care. This is Bridget and we're playing this one out with, ah what is it we're playing it out with, right? Your original face. So everybody enjoy, take care, be good to each other and let music do awesome in your lives.
01:08:05
Speaker
And thank you so much, Bridget, for your time and for the great conversation. Special thanks to Baryanne as a shriekback for letting us use the theme and title of Sticky Jazz for this show. And the go check out Bridget Barkhen. She's got the just look her up. Links will be in the episode, but turn on her videos and have a good laugh and just enjoy the visuals. She's really an amazing artist. So everybody have a wonderful week.
01:09:52
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Oh
01:10:28
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The original face Original, original, original
01:11:29
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We're all colors of the in-between Gathering where let the people be Take off your dress, take off your dress
01:12:10
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You're a bitch in a face
01:12:44
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No man, no woman the same. We are everything and nothing. Let's go back, back to the original. What do you look, do you look like with no man, no man, no woman?
01:13:31
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Under the moon, the original face Under the lace, after the chase, the original face
01:13:50
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What do you look to look like with no name, no man, no woman, the same? We are everything and nothing, let's go right back to the original What do you look to look like with no name, no man, no woman, the same?
01:14:12
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What do you look, do you look like With no name, no man, no woman The same we are Everything and nothing Let's go back, back to the original What do you look, do you look like With no name, no man, no woman The same no mother, no father From the flower into the fire Let's go back to the original