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Fantasy Corner: Episode 3
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In our 3rd rendition of The Fantasy Corner, we have a look at the Premiership Final and the fantasy results that came from it. Who ended up being the best captain to pick? Who was a bit of a fools gold? That and we answer an e-mail regarding FRD Super Rugby (keep em coming) and also talk about what formats we've enjoyed in our first season of Fantasy Rugby.
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Transcript
Premiership Final Fun
00:00:09
Speaker
So to our fancy corner, not a ton to talk about. I don't have the numbers quite crunched from Super Rugby, but hey, it was fun for the prem final.
Choosing the Right Captain
00:00:19
Speaker
We talked about picking the right captain last week and some jackass at this table picked the right captain. And some jackass did not.
Captain's Impact and Penalties
00:00:28
Speaker
Who is your captain?
00:00:29
Speaker
My captain was the, the, the, my, okay. So my captain was fucking man of the match, but with a, but now the problem with being a captain is all your points are doubled, including your yellow cards. Yes. Kind of a problem. Kind of a problem. And then, uh, he also didn't score two tries, even though he, he set up two of them with some actions, but you don't get credit for, for that, unless you actually assist,
Game Outcomes and Rankings
00:00:57
Speaker
assist.
00:00:57
Speaker
Yep. Um, so yeah, my, I captain Jamie George and I captain Morrow. Yeah. So it was a, it was a good day for me. Um, I finished pretty high actually, if I remember right.
00:01:09
Speaker
Yeah, you were in the top. You're like 150 or something like that. I was. Yeah, for the game week. Yeah, I was top 150. Yeah, not bad. I was eight hundred twenty one. Ooh, you were way down there. Yeah. Yeah. That's probably my highest game week finish for most of the season, if not the whole thing. Yeah.
00:01:29
Speaker
I still moved up points in the overall standings, though. Yeah, we both finished top five in the U.S. Yay. Hooray.
Next Year's Competitions and Invites
00:01:35
Speaker
So I've made the executive decision that I think we need to do both formats for both competitions next year because we both and we both enjoy certain portions of both. Right. So I think I think I think we can justify doing both. And I would also like to invite everybody out there that they anyway that listens to
00:01:54
Speaker
Join our our frd and our and our rugby mag teams for the premiership next year. That'll start September whatever September day it is. Um, so yeah, but I think that'll be good Obviously, we'll also be talking about some some other tournament at that time. I don't know. I don't know Do you know anything else that's going on around that time?
Adapting to Rugby Formats
00:02:14
Speaker
Um No, there's not much going on in the us rugby at that time so
00:02:19
Speaker
Oh shit. Wait a minute. I definitely enjoyed both formats. I certainly enjoyed the rugby mat format. It was a lot of fun. We both had our good weeks and our bad weeks. I think you had more good weeks than me by far. It took me a little bit. It took me like three or four weeks to understand what the hell I was doing.
00:02:41
Speaker
And then after that, I was like, Oh yeah, now I get this. I got this now. Um, so for, for you, and I think I know who your answer is going to be.
Season-long MVPs and Performances
00:02:50
Speaker
Um, who was your, who was your season long MVP and going all the way back to week one to, to, to week, uh, there are, there are a lot of options here. That's, that's the issue. Ultimately, um,
00:03:07
Speaker
because I also subbed in and out a lot of people, but the one consistent performer that I had, I would say first off, I mean, for overall performance was Alex Goode. He got me a shit ton of points. He obviously, not being a part of the internationals really helped him out there for that. Yeah, fish in the top 30 points. Right, but if we're talking about
00:03:35
Speaker
guys who maybe You know you kind of fill out your roster, but then suddenly we're like hey this guy I would I would point to two both of them forwards Will Rowlands and Alex Dombrandt okay guys who were just like you know what if I if I have somebody who I'm just not sure what to do you know what I'm gonna play one and then they're starting I'm gonna play them and Not even think twice about it well done
00:04:00
Speaker
So those are my three. I hate to narrow it down to just one because again, I had a lot of turnover throughout the year. Yeah. I have a name that I picked up. I think week two.
00:04:09
Speaker
OK. Oh, you know what? Yeah, I even forgot about the other guy. Go ahead. You're going to say. He's a former Lesterman. Yes, he is. And he plays for Pat Lamb at Bristol and his name is Harry Thacker. That is his name. And he finished second. Yeah. In total points this year. I revised my answer. Also include him. But yes, no, I like I like your pick of Roland's and Don Brandt. Don Brandt came on strong when the internationals came around, was a nobody and then obviously hasn't turned himself into a potential
00:04:38
Speaker
Boulter for a World Cup squad. Maybe not attitude-wise yet. We have to learn more about his personality.
Player Comparisons: Dombrandt vs Haskell
00:04:48
Speaker
But you know who he reminds me of from his style of play? Dutel. A little, little young James Haskell.
00:04:54
Speaker
Ah, yes a little bully out there, but the old you get him in the loose and he's Ah man, the game will miss him as he as he calls it as he as he pulls the curtain down on his career Yes, we will miss him But but the baton brat he has he has a little bit of a little bit of him to him
00:05:11
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a great player. He's got a bright, bright future in front of him. But Harry Thacker, we're talking about bright futures in front of him. Yeah. Fuckballs. Oh, man. The only question about Harry Thacker throughout the year was, do you play him at Hook or do you play him at Flank in your fantasy team?
00:05:29
Speaker
Yeah, that's basically what it came down to because you almost as long I think you missed one start. I think so. And that was it. Yeah, that was ridiculous. So, yeah. Yep.
Future Competition Plans
00:05:39
Speaker
So we both we both enjoyed playing this this format. I'm enjoying playing the frd format. So I definitely I think we'll be going forward with both formats for both competitions next year. Maybe we'll put the until the European competition and does a little bit more with it.
00:05:57
Speaker
um and and develops it a little bit more maybe we'll put that guy on the back burner yeah i mean i i enjoyed i i
Fantasy Rugby Strategy
00:06:03
Speaker
think i can and will will will grow to enjoy the draft format i just don't know the players well enough well well i think for frd with prem i think you'll be fine yeah i could be it's just a question it's really then the question of value and understanding when to draft certain guys and and and where to spend your your your draft capital so for me i've i've actually kind of figured it out you need a bolter at either midfield or outside back
00:06:25
Speaker
You need to bolster it, lose forward, and you need a dependable, and I mean a dependable fly half. That's what killed me this year. When Robert Dubria lost his job, I was in trouble.
Challenges with Key Player Loss
00:06:35
Speaker
Like, I didn't have a dependable fly half for Boo. Like, Hamish Stewart, no. I think I played James Marshall. I played McGahn, who's the current kid that played for the Red. Yeah, I ended up screwed. So, you know, you don't need an otherworldly 10, but a good one does you a lot of good. Look at Josh Iwani, who nobody thought about this year.
00:06:55
Speaker
And has turned into a freaking he's definitely winning teams leagues this year right for sure I think we were just maybe Maybe
Fantasy Teams vs Real Teams
00:07:02
Speaker
you have to limit the number of teams that are would be in a yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah, it's it Yeah, I don't think we had what ten in our in our FRD. I don't even know if you have that maybe we have ten ten's not bad I think most FRDs in the prem have that at most I
00:07:19
Speaker
Yeah, we had 10. With 14, 15 teams in the competition, that's not bad. That's not bad. But it's still a lot. You think of the NFL, you think fantasy football. There's 32 NFL teams. And if you've got 12 teams in a league, that's a lot. That's a lot. So the ratio of teams to the actual competition. Yeah, it does make you chop and change a lot. Right.
00:07:46
Speaker
It is a pain. Yes, I'll agree with that. I'm not going to lie. You have to try. It is a pain in the butt. But that's OK.
Fantasy Player Selection Inquiry
00:07:55
Speaker
So, yeah. And then we had we had we had an actual fancy question email to us, which was kind of fun. It was for last week, so sorry for anybody. This is late to the party. So what OB would would you play? Ben DeHeber, so Maki and Kosey Campbell.
00:08:16
Speaker
Thanks, and just a nice thank you. This is from Kobus. I'm guessing he's South Africa. Just a shot in the dark. That's a wild guess. So you and I both said for various reasons in KOSI, and he didn't do bad. I think he scored, what did he do?
00:08:40
Speaker
He scored pretty good. 14, 14.3. But I think the proper answer was actually Campbell. Although the numbers definitely didn't say it. Campbell or Somak, you would have done better. But he also said that he had Beal. So I was like, OK, well, you aren't that bad off. So even if we got this a little bit wrong,
00:09:04
Speaker
I'm not refunding you your money because you had Curly Bill, so get out of here. The fuck is he playing him where he's got all those guys? Yeah. So yeah, I think he's okay. Bill wasn't in the conversation you and I had about that. Right. No, because Bill's a midfielder, so we didn't need that. I was like,
00:09:21
Speaker
don't feel well because I said yeah here you go here's your answer buddy and good luck he said I hope you're having good luck in your semi-final after the first batch of matches and he said yeah I'm in pretty good shape Biel had a good day I was like holy
Highlanders Lineup Update
00:09:35
Speaker
shit did he ever eat it
00:09:37
Speaker
So yeah, there you go. Um, yep, so I will put we could have said any of those Yeah, we basically said yeah, whichever one's easiest flip a coin. Uh, yep Um, so for those of you that maybe don't uh follow people on twitter highlanders lineup is is up. Um Those of you that are probably like me and usually looking for a certain guy named erin smith. He's in the lineup Luke white lock returns So this is obvious
00:10:03
Speaker
Liam Squire's in, no kidding. There you go, that's a big one. All right, so if you need a Loose Forward and you're desperate, Liam Squire could be the guy.
Player Considerations for Loose Forwards and Backs
00:10:14
Speaker
You know, they're playing the Bulls. Bulls, last I checked, were okay against Loose Forward here. Let me look.
00:10:26
Speaker
This is pre round 16. So not quite there. Yeah. Bulls were middling. So yeah, there you go. And highlanders are at home. You know, depends on how much you trust Liam's. This is a wild card. This is a shot in the dark and like I have no loose forward. I'm screwed. Right. So, you know, I did it with Sam Kane. It didn't pay off.
00:10:45
Speaker
But you know, yeah, that's there. So for those if you need it to be the leaves back as well. So if you have an outside back problem and have been weighing on to be the Lee, there you go. So yeah, looks like a strong lineup.