Episode Introduction
00:00:01
Speaker
Welcome to the Chick Foley show.
00:00:24
Speaker
What is up, Foley fam? We are back with episode 133 of the Chick Foley Show.
Wrestling Event Previews
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Speaker
We're here this week to review in your house, preview Hell in the Cell, and talk about everything else that went on this week in the wild and wacky world of professional wrestling. But let me start by introducing the stars of the show, Sheena. How you doing?
00:00:43
Speaker
I'm doing good, man. I was really surprised that Hell in a Cell was this weekend. I was kind of caught off guard. You were like, we're doing Hell in a Cell predictions. I was like, son of a... I feel like it was just a big weekend this past weekend. It just never stops around here. Marco, how's life up in Massachusetts?
00:00:59
Speaker
Oh, it's going good. I almost had the same mess up because on raw MVP said something like, um, I held ourselves a week from today or something like that. And I was like, it was like a week ago. I thought it was a Sunday. Is he saying it's next week? I was like, what the hell's going on? I thought it was, but yeah, no, here we are. It's back to back paper views.
00:01:19
Speaker
Yeah, and it's definitely snuck up on us. We'll talk about it when we get to the preview, but it seems like the card may not be complete just yet. So we'll see if we get a few more matches added either on SmackDown or just through the week on social media. Speaking of which, Sheena, tell the listeners where they can find you guys on social media.
00:01:36
Speaker
You can find me on Instagram at chick Foley. You can find Marco over on the Twitter machine at chick Foley show. Most importantly, you can join our Foley fam over at chick Foley show.com. Uh, we have a new episode of unbox and mania up every single week, and we are going to give you guys our Royal Rumble 92 coming next week. So we do our watch along series, super fun. We just posted our Royal Rumble 91. So clearly we're going in chronological order. So 92 is up and coming.
Giveaway Winner Announcement
00:02:04
Speaker
And it is time to announce the winner of last week's giveaway. We're giving away the Basic 119 Dominik Dijakovic. Again, that's Dominik Dijakovic. It is not T-Bar. So, you know, we had a couple of people saying that he resembled T-Bar. I don't know where that's coming from. This is Dominik, feast your eyes. Sheen, you ready to announce the winner? Let's go.
00:02:29
Speaker
at Leo C on Instagram, you are the winner of the Dominik Dijakovic figure. So hit us up in the DMs either on Twitter or Instagram, and yeah, we'll get it sent out to you, buddy. Congratulations. Thanks to everybody that showed love and entered. We got another giveaway going next week. It's going to be the exact same rules. Just DM a screenshot of yourself, listen to the show to either Sheena on Instagram or Marco on Twitter.
00:02:53
Speaker
we're going to be giving away Elite 80 Kevin Owens. This is a pretty cool figure. He's rocking the Stunt Owens stun shirt. It comes with a ladder and the briefcase. I think it's going to be a figure that could end up going up in value down the line because it's pretty historically significant as far as Kevin Owens figures goes. This was from his ladder match against Shane McMahon on the first ever episode of Friday Night Smackdown on Fox. So
00:03:16
Speaker
It was a huge night for WWE. And even though that storyline carried on about four months past this expiration date ended up with a pretty fun, uh, uh, you know, a pretty fun ending. What do you remember that match, Marco? Marco, I guess he's been stunned in the silence, thinking about Shane and KOs, awesome feud of 2019. No, there was a, uh, there was a plane go by. I didn't want it to, um, go over the microphone, but yeah, definitely run away or something.
Drew McIntyre & Shane McMahon Discussion
00:03:43
Speaker
No, I have my window open against some fresh air and I just heard it very loudly. So I didn't want it to go over the airways. But yeah, I definitely remember that match. It was pretty awesome. Like you said, that storyline did kind of like run its course at some point because for my personal taste, we've seen it like countless times in WWE than the like, you know, the low, the low guy of the totem pole going against the authority figure and all that type of stuff. So
00:04:09
Speaker
Yeah. It's still amazing that Drew McIntyre was able to recover as quickly as he did from getting roped into that. Remember, he actually teamed with Shane McMahon on a paper review against Roman Reigns and Undertaker. It was Shane and the mid-card of evil. No, Shane and the channel changers, isn't that what we called them? Yeah, Bobby Lashley. Bobby Lashley. I think Ben Corbin was hanging around sometimes. Ben Corbin, that's right. He was horrible. Quite the faction.
00:04:32
Speaker
Yeah, so again, slide in the DMs and hit us up with your chance to win KO next week. Sheena, tell the listeners about the Pod Foundation.
00:04:41
Speaker
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NXT Pay-Per-View Critique
00:05:27
Speaker
Alright, and we want to remind you guys to use code chick Foley at ringside collectibles.com to save 10% on all your purchases ringside collectibles is the number one worldwide retailer in wrestling figures. You guys ready to get into the weekend wrestling? Oh, yeah. Alright, so we will start it off with in your house is in the books. Sheena, what were your overall thoughts on the show?
00:05:50
Speaker
Um, you know, I don't want to, I don't want to come off the top rope thinking I'm being negative right off the top of the show, but I do feel like it was the weakest pay-per-view in a while for, um, for.
00:06:04
Speaker
NXT I just feel like it didn't have that big takeover feel I mean there was some good matches the wrestling was fine But none of it felt like like like takeover magic, you know I think we've just become so spoiled and so accustomed to The the takeovers of old where it just it literally like takes over everything and you're so like enthralled with what's going on on the screen and the storylines and everything that's playing out before you that you're just like holy and
00:06:28
Speaker
And this was not that. This could have just been an episode of weekly NXT TV and I would have been none the wiser. And that's saying a lot cuz NXT really, like I said, they stand and deliver all the time. So saying that it's been the weakest in a while is still pretty high praise. It's still well above most other wrestling out there. So I'm not knocking it, but it just doesn't live up to the hype. That's one thing, they're a victim of their own success. They've really set the bar.
00:06:56
Speaker
super high for us for these takeover events. And when they don't deliver, we always feel like a little bit let down.
00:07:04
Speaker
Yeah, I think the big thing that this show had going against it was just that it was really predictable. You could kind of, aside from the Cameron Grimes and LA Knight match, every other match on the card, it was, unless they were just pulling a straight up swerve bro on us, um, you could really tell with a high level of certainty who was going to win the match. Um, speaking of it being predictable, we do got to congratulate Marco. He has wrestled back the Chick Foley show prediction championship. Kyle O'Reilly.
00:07:30
Speaker
Our latest train was short-lived. Marco is back on top. Marco, what did you think of the show? Yeah, I think the same sentiments across the board, even on social media. It had that like, obviously, it was an NXT takeover, but it did have that feel, that big fight feel to it. I think, for one of my takeaways from it is, if you've
00:07:53
Speaker
if you've been watching nxc for a while um a lot of the names that were you know in the past were kind of like marquee names yeah i'm not saying anyone on this show isn't but it's like they're pretty much like using a whole new crew like a new set of wrestlers
00:08:09
Speaker
So it's kind of like, you know, not that they don't have star power, um, they will eventually, um, like you had your, like every, all the star power was in one match at the end of the night. They weren't sprinkled throughout. So like, if they spread those, those guys out throughout the night, it probably would have had that feel like if, you know, Kyle O'Reilly face Adam Cole in a match.
00:08:27
Speaker
or Johnny Gargano and Pete Dunne. And then like whoever, like one of those matches, you know, far carry across in a triple threat at the end of the day, they did something like that. That would give you that, like, you know, that big fight feel because you'd have those stars, you know, going throughout the show. But I didn't think it was it was bad. Like you said, the wrestling was top notch. I think the biggest takeaway was, you know, L.A. Night's probably like one of their rising stars, if anything. I think that was kind of. Yeah.
00:08:54
Speaker
I didn't, I thought we all thought Cameron Grimes is going to win. Yeah, I definitely thought Cameron Grimes was going to win. I will say I was like pissed off. I think it's because I've just been waiting for Cameron Grimes to have his big moment. And in that moment when he lost, I was like, this is bullshit. Like, no, like I am not accepting LA Knight, you know, as the, as the million dollar champion, but it is a heel championship and he, you know, obviously on, um, uh, not takeover on, um,
00:09:20
Speaker
Yeah, rather regular NXT TV this week. He really like drove it home that he is a heel. I mean, he attacked Ted DiBiase hardcore and it's very fitting. And I'm gonna like seeing Cameron Grimes chase him for that.
00:09:36
Speaker
Yeah, initially I was like, I hate this, but after seeing him on TV, I'm here for it. I think it's okay. I mean, LA Knight's still not my favorite. I do think his name is Lame. We talked about it in our group chat today. I was like, this name is just so not good.
00:09:52
Speaker
Other than that, I think that was probably my match of the night for sure. I mean, I just think Grimes took some huge freaking bumps. He did all the work, which I think was another reason why I was like, this is bullshit. He took all the big bumps and he was so over with the fans. But yeah, I agree that looking back on it in hindsight, it was the right decision to go with LA Knight. Yeah.
00:10:14
Speaker
Yeah, Marco, you made a good point about putting up five guys in the main event. Bruce Pritchard on his podcast, he's been very vocal that he's always been against having the big multi-man matches in the main event just because it soaks up so much of your talent in one match. I saw a lot of criticism online of the crowd. What did you guys think? It definitely seemed like we didn't have the classic NXT crowd that we're used to.
00:10:35
Speaker
No, they were, they were dead, dude. I don't know what it is. I know, um, we, we kind of talked about some, some speculation that was going around, like, you know, what, what was going on with the NXT crowd or what's kind of going on with their weekly TV crowd and stuff. You know, they're kind of having to go through the wringer just to even get in the door. So by the time they're there, it's just kind of like, you know, they're already, they're already worn out, but, uh, yeah, they're definitely not the, uh, the full sail crowd that we know and love that is just like screaming their head off. And the fact that we haven't had live crowds in,
00:11:02
Speaker
15 freaking months for this crap, and then that's what you show up with. I'm a little disappointed, especially seeing the crowd at Daily's Place just scream their heads off. Yeah, I think there's definitely some protocols going on at the- WWE. Yeah, I think they're definitely sticking to some strict guidelines.
00:11:25
Speaker
when it comes to yeah there was one uh it was just one fan's account on reddit haven't seen it confirmed anywhere else but he basically he went into some serious detail on what it was like so i kind of leaned towards thinking he's telling the truth but basically yeah they got to go through all covid protocol at one place
00:11:41
Speaker
then they got to take a bus over to the performance center.
NXT Event Experience During COVID
00:11:44
Speaker
I think this is the key thing at the performance center. They don't have any food or beverage for sale. So in addition, everybody being stone cold sober, which we all know wrestling is a lot more entertaining when you get, if you got a couple of cold ones in you. Oh yeah. They're also just hungry and thirsty, you know? So I would be in a, I would probably be feeling a certain kind of way also and wouldn't be ready to just go nuts and be relaxed and ready to have a good time. I'd be kind of pissed off as well after going through all that.
00:12:07
Speaker
and then not have anything to at least wash the trail dust down with once you get in your seat. It was definitely noticeable. I think it would have been less noticeable or I think it would have added to the show to not have people there and just pipe in crowd noise than to actually have people there and it still feels so dead. I think it was just very jarring to see so many people in the building and it just felt so flat.
00:12:29
Speaker
Yeah, well, even like, even like a lot of the new Japan shows like earlier this year, like even Wrestle Kingdom, for instance, they packed it, they have like 14,000 people in attendance. But they had guidelines, but they were, you know, they, they were a bit like, they weren't able to like, stand up and shout and, you know, talking about that. Yeah, they would just clap like they were like, if a move happened, they were still interactive. Yeah, this crowd like wasn't interactive at all. It was just like, it was just weird. It's
00:12:56
Speaker
It was worse on the weekly show this week on NXT. It was even worse than the pay-per-view. It was just strange. And it was a really good episode of NXT this week. I thought it really kind of ushered in a new era. And we had so much going on with Regal and Samoa Joe coming back, being assistant to the regional manager type deal, the enforcer. So I just felt like, what's this crowd doing there asleep?
NXT Episode Highlights
00:13:23
Speaker
Yeah, it was really good. If you didn't get to watch NXT this week, I highly recommend going back and watching because it was, it was a good show for sure. Yeah. Muted. So before we get to Samoa Joe, uh, let's take a look at the future. I want to put you guys on the spot. Um, Marco, who will carry in Crosby fighting at the takeover on summer slam weekend? Uh, I gotta go with dad Cole, I think.
00:13:54
Speaker
going to have that blow off match with Kyle O'Reilly at some point. Because they're saying this is like their second match, not their third, because that other match was unsanctioned, so it didn't count. Yeah, so they actually said that on the show this past Tuesday, this will be their second encounter. And I was like, wait, this will be the third, but no, they had an unsanctioned match. So that doesn't count as an encounter. So
00:14:20
Speaker
Yeah, I think it has to be Adam. It has to be someone big. If not, if they kind of weasel Samoa Joe in there somehow, I'm not sure like what his actual role is yet or what he can and can't do. Like I said, unless provoked, I mean, Karrion Kross could provoke Samoa Joe and
00:14:36
Speaker
He can put himself in a championship match. Who knows? But I think it's going to be Adam Cole. Do you need that? Especially are they going to be on the road by that time? And they're definitely going to be in a large facility. You're going to want a big name going against Karrion Carraso. My pick is Adam Cole, Bay Bay.
00:14:54
Speaker
Yeah, I can see it. After that promo that Adam Cole cut on Karrion Kross, all I can see is the negatives on Karrion Kross. I think that one cut too close to the bone and it was, I don't know, I feel like Karrion Kross just dropped down a couple notches to me. I just see all the stuff that Adam Cole said, I just see it so plain as day now anytime I see Karrion Kross there. He definitely shined light on it.
00:15:14
Speaker
Well, yeah, I think I think Scarlett's the star of the act, you know, I said that before, just her charisma and everything. I think she's who the people really want to see. And then, you know, cross is just the muscle head that's coming along with her.
00:15:24
Speaker
Then the other thing you had was a guy like Samoa Joe come out and just totally owned you on the mic. What are you still doing here? What are you still doing in my ring? Yeah, exactly. Samoa Joe is a man. I mean, anybody in the ring, he's going to do that. He even talked Paul Heyman. He had that feud with Brock Lesnar. I mean, you put Samoa Joe in the ring with anyone, I should say that he's probably going to outperform
00:15:50
Speaker
He's so good. The other thing too is he's super believable. If you want that believability, he's a tough guy. You can look at some old Joe and say, yeah, he could probably kick your ass in real life if he wanted to. Joe brings a level of intensity that is unmatched when it just comes to getting down to fighting time. He's ready to go.
00:16:11
Speaker
And i see the same thing with regal when regal was younger like he had that same type of feel to me anyway like i know they had that man's man thing his gimmick that he had but like he had that look where like real man's man but he had that look to me like he would probably like he'd probably kick your ass for real too if he had to like
00:16:30
Speaker
I think that's why like, I think it's gonna work like really well with them two together. Where like, you know, Rico's gonna be like, he's old, he can't do the things that Samoa Joe can do.
Samoa Joe's Potential Return
00:16:41
Speaker
But I think he's gonna, at some point, he's gonna be like, hey, he's back. Because what he did to Adam Cole last night was pure like,
00:16:47
Speaker
That was just like blasphemy. He just put him to sleep and told him when he wakes up, go see him in the office, like that type of stuff. But, uh, yeah, I can't, I can't wait for this, uh, this like mini faction that they have going on with, with Regal and Samoa Joe. It's, it's intriguing. Yeah, it's pretty cool. So let's keep the NXT love going. What did you guys think of the actual segment when Samoa Joe made his big return to NXT?
00:17:12
Speaker
I loved it. I thought it was very... Anytime there's that much emotion, it always gets me. Anytime I see grown men cry, we watch the Andre documentary, the Hidden Treasures documentary. Every time Mark Henry would get choked up, if you guys haven't seen it, you must see it.
00:17:29
Speaker
every time Mark Henry would get choked up, it would just like make me like, oh, you know, so yeah, we're seeing Riegel get all, all choked up. It definitely and I think he really meant I think it was genuine, you know, clearly, it was it was a work, it was all part of a storyline. But I think what he was saying and that emotion that was coming through,
00:17:46
Speaker
was real emotion. I just, I thought, I mean, unless, unless he totally worked me and he's just a, he's a Oscar or award-winning actor, but I thought it was real and, uh, it was, it was really awesome and I loved it and I loved how he just pumped out carrying cross, like no offense carrying, but yeah, Joe pumped his ass out. It seemed a little fuzzy the way they explained it, but they definitely left the door at least cracked open. Marco, do you think we're going to see Samojo wrestle again? Oh yeah. That's, I think that's why they, that's why he like, when he first declined
00:18:15
Speaker
his offer, I was like, I was like, huh, I was like, it's kind of weird. But I thought he was just going to accept it and be like the, the new GM of NXT and regal is going to be gone or whatever. But now that they he's kind of like this, like, almost like enforcer type of thing to keep like, you know, keep peace and keep peace in his own words anyway. But yeah, I think I think he'll I think he'll end up in the ring at some point.
00:18:40
Speaker
Yeah, I thought he declined it because he was going to say like, I'm a fighter, you know, like this is what I do. And I'm here to show you guys what NXT is made of or something like that, which I don't feel like it would have been super beneficial to just do it like that. Kind of like how they did Finn Balor and how they've done a couple of other guys, just bring them back down to NXT. I like this role with Joe having like some actual authority and not just being with the boys. I think it's really going to have an interesting dynamic, but I definitely think he's going to wrestle again.
00:19:10
Speaker
I mean, they wouldn't have had that stipulation where if he gets provoked that he can enforce, you know, pain on people if they didn't want to see him wrestle. All right. Let's get going to Monday night. The always excellent Monday Night Raw, the flagship of professional wrestling rules.
Eva Marie & Piper Niven Discussion
00:19:28
Speaker
We saw Sheena's favorite Eva Marie make her return to the big stage. Sheena, you can go first. What were your thoughts on Eva Marie's comeback?
00:19:38
Speaker
I mean, it was about what I expected. She was, she didn't fight. She just got out there and her little outfit and her new pink hair. And I'm sure people watched it. I don't know what the, what the numbers were on that segment, but she brought Piper Niven with her, which she, you know, it's speculated that her new name is going to be Dewdrop, which. Yeah. Marco, what's your, give me your instant take on Dewdrop being Piper Niven's new name. I don't, I don't even know. I don't even know what to say to that.
00:20:03
Speaker
Dude, I will say it's insulting. Dude, Piper Niven is a badass. I don't know how many of you watch NXT UK out there, but I follow along loosely. And she freaking fought Rhea Ripley at Cardiff. And then she was in a triple threat with Kaylee Ray and Tony Storm.
00:20:21
Speaker
Yes. And I think it was Blackpool, the second Blackpool. And dude, she's a freaking powerhouse, man. I mean, she showed even against Naomi, she showed that she's just not like a jobber, you know? And I mean, maybe this is their way of giving her a push. Maybe she'll get fed up of Eva Marie. So basically what happened, she came out
00:20:42
Speaker
or Eva Marie got introduced. She came out, Piper Niven, Dewdrop, whatever you want to call her, got in the ring, beat up Naomi in a quick squash match. And then the announced team never even announced Piper's name or said what her name was. And Eva took the mic and said, the winner is Eva Marie. Piper Niven is celebrating her, all joyful, just like, oh, yay, you're the winner.
00:21:06
Speaker
And meanwhile, meanwhile, Eva's looking all annoyed that Piper's even there. So I don't know what the dynamic, they're kind of doing that Nikki Cross, Alexa Bliss, where Nikki, like Nikki was like the over eager best friend, you know, and Alexa was just kind of like the cool girl, the cool pretty girl who just didn't have time for her, you know, nerdy best friend. So I think that's kind of the angle they're going with.
00:21:26
Speaker
I think if they do this right, it could really give Piper Niven a good babyface push because if she gets fed up with Eva Marie and just goes in there and has a feud with her and whoops her ass, she'll be the biggest babyface in the company. So I think if that's where it's going, I'm here for it. But otherwise, yeah.
00:21:45
Speaker
It was rough. It was definitely rough. Yeah, it's bad. I prefer all red everything on Eva Marie also. I felt like that was her trademark, you know, she should have stuck with it. Now she's just, I don't even know what she is now. She's just another model with a bunny color hair. Like that's what it is, you know?
00:22:02
Speaker
I don't know what to say about her. Again, this is all kayfabe talk only. I respect even Marie for being an entrepreneur and a model and all the things that she is in her real life, but she just does nothing for me on television. I feel like she takes the women's division back. Like she takes it back to the butterfly title. Like that's kind of where, I mean, she doesn't take it all the way back to the pudding fights and the pillow fights and all that kind of stuff, but she definitely takes it back to the butterfly.
00:22:29
Speaker
Yeah. My other thing too is like you said, they didn't even announce Piper coming out at all. Yeah. They didn't explain who she was. And that's one of the main reasons why a lot of NXT alum, when they move up to the main roster, don't get it, get over it all. Because the other thing I think too is they have to realize that the people that are watching NXT are probably not watching WWE.
00:22:58
Speaker
Yeah, that's that's one of the main like things. I don't think that there's there's a very there's obviously there's us we watch everything But there are people that only watch NXT. Yes Definitely and they're definitely not watching NXT UK the casual fan is definitely not watching NXT UK Seth and I had this conversation earlier on in the week I was saying, you know, I just can't believe they just
WWE Character Reinvention
00:23:19
Speaker
like didn't even announce
00:23:21
Speaker
Like Piper Nick, like who she was or like where is she from? Um, and he's just, you know, he was like, she's just a new character. Like she had, like they don't want any of that old baggage, you know, hanging on to where they want to just create this brand new, this brand new character. Um, which I understand in which I get, but it is still annoying that like the announcers that literally work for the same company are just like, Oh, I don't know who this is. You know, like that to me, I just hate when the announcers play so dumb.
00:23:51
Speaker
It really pisses me off and just takes me out of the moment. I remember Raw is a TV show. It's not a wrestling show. In their minds, that's how it is. They look at it as just a TV show and this is just a new actor showing up to play a new character. They have to have a background. Do you have some type of- Yeah, they could have at least given her some sort of
00:24:12
Speaker
Something you know and I'm with you guys. I hate it. I think Piper and Evan is a really cool character She's a unique wrestler and even is a good name to be devil's advocate like they can't acknowledge all her backstory and every all the cool things that she's done and
00:24:27
Speaker
in NXT and NXT UK and then bring her in his do drop you know so that's why yeah that's why sometimes they go just a blank slate on these people like you saw with retribution like now we're seeing the Piper and evidence just because when you roll with the blank slate they can be whatever you want them to be so I agree you guys appreciate the choir with me but I'm just kind of like helping some of the people who
00:24:47
Speaker
may not be as deep in the game as we are, kind of understand why WWE does some of the things that they do. It doesn't make it any less frustrating or make the product suck any less, but it at least lets you, you know, kind of wrap your head around what the hell they're thinking when they make some of these just seemingly boneheaded creative moves. Because I agree, you should bring up
00:25:05
Speaker
You know give somebody a couple weeks of hype like a dude if Piper and Evan could be a totally credible member Of the women's roster, you know, give us a couple weeks of highlights showing some of her big moves and some of the cool stuff She's done, you know taking Rhea Ripley to the limit stuff like that. Don't uh And can we talk about how like smackdown is like bleeding for women's talent right now like we need some women's talent on smackdown and like there's a
00:25:29
Speaker
They're just freaking like, why don't we put Piper over there? There's four women there pretty much. I would tune in to watch Piper and Evan in Bianca Belair. That's a believable match to me. You know what I mean? I think that'd be really cool to see. The other cool, the other thing. The other thing too is we need to
00:25:46
Speaker
We need to stop the disrespect of just squashing Naomi, a former two-time Women's Champion. That's one of the things I've noticed a lot. Obviously, Lana's gone because they had that whole thing going with their tag team and stuff like that. But I think they should focus on having MVP instead of trying to court Kofi, maybe
00:26:11
Speaker
put his services over to Naomi, try to get her going, like become an advocate for her, become her manager, and make her like the, cause she's probably one of the best women that they have there. And they, athletically anyway, and she, she gets treated like crap, basically. So I think like, if they have something like, someone like a, like an MVP, you know, give her that pep talk like you did with Bobby Lashley, you know, like you did with everyone else, you know, and get her, maybe turn her heel, don't just,
00:26:39
Speaker
Just no more, no more babyface Naomi. Just like, no more feeling the glow. Yeah. No more glow. No more shut it off. The darkness, darkness. Yeah. All darkness with Naomi. You just have to feel the darkness. Yeah. Just like come on. We cut a crazy ass promo. Like I'm sick of this, that type of thing. Yeah. And they could have, I mean, and that's the thing. If they wanted her to just squash Naomi, they should have at least give Naomi some credibility. So then it's like, well, damn, who is this Piper chick?
00:27:05
Speaker
You know what I mean? She literally just came out with Eva, she came out with Eva Marie and squashed a former women's champion, badass wrestler in like what's going on here. You know, and why is she, why is she doing the dirty work for Eva Marie? Like what's this relationship going on here? You know, you would want to know more if they built Naomi up instead of just bringing her out like a freaking jobber.
00:27:26
Speaker
Yeah, we definitely didn't have it in the format for a deep dive on Naomi, but I have some thoughts now that you guys brought it up. I think the biggest thing hurting her, Mirko, you're right. She is one of the best in-ring performers that they have, but I think she's just a victim of timing. You know, she came up back during the diva there. She was around for, yeah, the Bellas and all that timeframe and stuff. And I think she just gets lumped in with them, even though in ring, she's on the caliber.
00:27:50
Speaker
With Becky Lynch Charlotte Sasha Bailey, you know all the people that came up kind of after the the women's revolution or whatever But she's kind of just I think she got stuck in the funcadactyls, man Yeah, I think I think no matter what yeah, she's still gonna be a funcadactyl coming out dancing with a Brodus Clay and
00:28:08
Speaker
And I just think that she's never going to be seen on the level with those other ladies, based strictly on when she came up. Yeah, there's so many cool things they could be doing. Hell, let's kick her over to SmackDown. She just said they need more women's talent on SmackDown. What if Naomi somehow got involved in this Uso's Tribal Chief family storyline? You know what I mean? That storyline is all about family. Why don't we get Jimmy's wife involved now, now that Jimmy's need deep in it? Yeah. She had a lot of setbacks too, though, with that whole Uso's drama when they were kind of like, you know,
00:28:35
Speaker
figuring out their demons and stuff like that. She got set back with that. Did she get arrested one night for arguing with the cops or something? Yeah. I don't know if she got arrested, but yeah, she was definitely part of some unfavorable PR for WWE. So I think that definitely hurt her because after all that kind of stuff was going on, we didn't see Naomi on TV for a long time. And right before that, she was in the mix for everything, Money in the Bank, women's title pictures, all that stuff. And then
00:29:01
Speaker
The other thing that hurt her was the first time she won the SmackDown Women's Championship, she got injured. I think in the match that she won it and had to forfeit it right away. We know Vince is quick to sour on people if he gives him a big push and they get hurt. Just look at poor Finn Balor. He never made it back to where he was his first month on the main roster after he got hurt against Seth Rollins at SummerSlam 2015.
00:29:32
Speaker
Uh oh, it's the remix. Time to freshen up the beverage break.
00:29:45
Speaker
So we're still sticking with the similar sound, but we wanted a little remix, just kind of freshen it up. We've been rolling with future for about a year now. And also they're thinking, you know, we're planning on this podcast eventually being global and we don't want future lawyers coming after us. So this is just some random YouTuber who made this really, really dope remix. So yeah, just search- Yeah, chickily worldwide. Yeah, search a mask off remix. You can find this on YouTube, but let's get to it. Sheena, what are you drinking tonight?
00:30:13
Speaker
So I am drinking, it's a pre-canned cocktail, which those can be hit or miss. I'm very leery about drinking those types of things. But the other day I went to the ABC store and I was just kind of like craving a little bit of a margarita. I didn't feel like actually making it myself. So I grabbed these Jose Cuervo sparkling margaritas and sparkling Palomas and
00:30:33
Speaker
they actually hit really nice, man, for a canned cocktail. So I'm drinking the sparkling Paloma. If you don't know, Paloma's basically like a grapefruit margarita, but I did add a little bit of fresh lime to give it some freshness. And yeah, it's going down smooth, dude. So I highly recommend, you know, these to me seem like the perfect like boat drink. Like if you're out, you know, on the lake or something, dude, like these would be perfect. So yeah, Jose Cuervo, sparkling Palomas and margaritas. All right, Marco, what are you sipping on?
00:31:03
Speaker
I'm slipping on a classic, a Broken Skull Margarita. I had to have some- Hell yeah. I think I passed the drill. I was like, hey, what time are we starting? Because I need some time to whip up this concoction that we got going on. Broken Skull Margaritas is primo.
00:31:20
Speaker
It was a good little nightcap. Yeah. Puts it right to sleep. Well, you better wake up. We still got a lot of show left. We'll hopefully make it through the rest of the podcast, man. Well, I've been like, I made it after, not during the... Hopefully not during the podcast. It brings you up during the show, then puts you down afterwards. I feel you. And I am drinking a Shiner Ruby Red Bird. This is Shiner Box Light Beer mixed in with some ruby red grapefruit juice and ginger. It is very delicious. Let's get back to it.
John Cena's WWE Return
00:31:51
Speaker
All right, so reports came out this week that John Cena is basically confirmed. He is returning at SummerSlam. This is huge. He has not been seen since losing the Firefly Funhouse match to Bray Wyatt at WrestleMania 36. Obviously, the match everyone is speculating on is we're going to see Roman Reigns go against John Cena at SummerSlam. They're planning on selling 41,000 tickets at Allegiant Stadium in Las Vegas, and that match would definitely
00:32:16
Speaker
help give a boost to that effort. But let's assume Roman's off the table. Marco, I'm gonna have you go first. Who would you book John Cena against if he cannot face Roman Reigns at SummerSlam? Oh man, no Roman? Taking Roman out of the equation? I mean, man.
00:32:35
Speaker
You'd have to go Seth Rollins, right? Somehow get him in there. I'm not sure how that would work. Seth Rollins is a drip god now. He's pretty colorful. John Cena dress is pretty colorful too, so I could see some interaction going there. But yeah, I would probably say Seth would probably be the... If they're going to want to sell that many seats, he had to go with another marquee name, and that would probably be the drip god Seth Rollins.
00:33:05
Speaker
Yeah, I think you could finish off the storyline with him and Bray. You know, Roman won at WrestleMania 30. Bray won at WrestleMania 36. And we haven't seen Bray in a while. Obviously, he's still one of the, you know, most like the most well hyped or most hyped talents that WWE has. Maybe you could build Bray up and have him and John Cena finally have the blow off to their feud. Sheena, how about you? What do you think?
00:33:30
Speaker
I mean, if you're trying to sell that many seats, you're going to need somebody that's going to put butts in seats. And I think it'd be time to bring back the beast incarnate and just have a John Cena versus Brock Lesnar. You know, that would be pretty bad ass to you. Those guys have had showdowns going all the way back to.
00:33:45
Speaker
to 2003 and then you had their classic at SummerSlam 2014 where Brock just squashed him. So yeah, we could see this. Maybe you could hype it up to like the last time ever that, you know, both these guys are going to be on a show together or something like that. I could definitely see that putting some butts in the seat. And it'd be pretty cool to see Cena actually take Brock down now that Brock's, you know, Brock's not the unstoppable force that he was back in 2014 at SummerSlam. I still remember watching that match just being blown away at Cena getting squashed like that. Yeah. I think he took something like 18 German suplexes in one match.
00:34:28
Speaker
Marco is defending the chick Foley show prediction championship. We got hell in a cell this Sunday now like we talked about on the Intro there's only five matches announced so far So if I'm assuming at least a couple more matches will get introduced between now and Saturday Well, uh, we'll get sheena Marco to posting on social media any updated predictions to come from any last-second ads but first up Marco we're gonna have you pick the The big grudge match going into this one
00:34:39
Speaker
Alright, it's time.
00:34:56
Speaker
Shayna Baszler versus Alexa Bliss. Oh, man. The way things are going for the... I'm just going to go with Alexa Bliss. I'm not even going to say. I'm not even going to go into a diatribe of the whole story. It's going to be Alexa. It's going to be somebody crazy thing that happens. It's going to be like an actual person. We drop in light fixtures on our head. Yeah, something crazy is going to happen and Alexa is going to win.
00:35:22
Speaker
How do we not have like full scale Lily dolls available to purchase it on WWE shop? That's common. Don't worry. They're behind. Yeah. It seems like a no brainer. Wait for that live crowd. Yeah. She know what's your pick.
00:35:35
Speaker
Yeah, I got to go with Alexa Bliss. Not only is she a five time women's champion, she's got a, you know, she's got the possessed doll, speak of the devil, she's got the possessed doll, Lily, to pull some shenanigans and she's got her own, she's got her own batch of superpowers. So I hate it for Shaina. Shaina is a legit prize fighter, MMA. She could snap anyone's neck, but yeah, she's not, she's not going to work on Alexa very well.
00:36:04
Speaker
I'd have to get back in the archives, but I think this is the first time we've had a possessed doll getting involved in wrestling since Chucky and Rick Steiner were feuding back in WCW in 1999. Really? I feel like the possessed doll had to come into play at some point. I feel like that would be a low hanging fruit that Vince would be like, yeah, pal, we're getting a voodoo doll.
00:36:30
Speaker
I remember, like I said, last time I remember was again, Chucky and Rick Steiner going head to head in a promo on a Nitro in 1999. So you can definitely find that on YouTube. Search at WCW Chucky. Pretty hilarious. Let's move on to the next match. Sheena, you're going to be picking this one first. It is for the SmackDown Women's Championship. Bianca Belair defending once again against Bayley.
00:36:53
Speaker
Yeah, I'm going to go with Bianca Belair. I don't think Bailey is going to laugh her way out of this one. I think, yeah, Bianca is going to win. She's not losing this one. She's beat Sasha. She's beat Bailey already once, and I think she's just going to show her dominance even more with this win at Hell in a Cell. Marco?
00:37:19
Speaker
Yeah, same Bianca Belair. I think that she's going to be the dominant champion for the next few months at least depending on like we spoke about this earlier there the roster at the you know SmackDown locker room for women isn't the most diverse and deep so yeah she's going to be the champion for a long time.
00:37:41
Speaker
Yeah, the only wild card I can really see in this match is if we see Sasha Banks make a comeback obviously She's got a ton of history with both ladies in this match and she's been conspicuous by her absence since WrestleMania So perhaps we see Sasha come back and make her presence felt one way or the other But yeah, it's hard to see Bianca dropping the strap in this one Moving over to the raw side for their women's division Rhea Ripley defending against Charlotte Marco, what's your pick?
00:38:10
Speaker
Man, see this is a tough one. I'm opposite on Rhea. I think she's going to lose at some point. I don't think her championship run is... I mean both of their championship runs haven't been the greatest. But Rhea's in the same division as Charlotte. And I think Charlotte needs her title back.
00:38:33
Speaker
I'm probably I'm gonna go with Charlotte on this one. I think she's gonna I think she's gonna win I think she's gonna win and then like the marquee match is gonna be like her at SummerSlam with the title Against whoever the opponent's gonna be maybe Rhea Becky Lynch for Becky Lynch. Yeah, she's definitely holding the title until SummerSlam until someone's return so Yeah, Charlotte flair it is All right, she know who you picking out of Charlotte and Rhea
00:38:59
Speaker
I mean, this could be, this could be a killer, like sneaky match of the night, I think, but I'm with Marco. I feel like when Charlotte Flair is involved, you can never count her out of the, you know, taking the title from you. So I'm going with Charlotte. I do think she'll probably carry it through SummerSlam and be like, you know, big marquee name for, for SummerSlam again, to put, put butts in seats. I love Rhea. She's my girl, but.
00:39:22
Speaker
She just, she still is missing a little something. I can't really put my finger on it, but something about her is just not translating to the TV audience, I don't think. I mean, I love her and it's missing for me. So I can only imagine people who don't really, aren't bought into Rhea Ripley feel even more so.
00:39:44
Speaker
Yeah, this one's tricky to pick because of the Thunderdome. If you look online, Rhea Ripley's title reign has definitely been flat and it's been kind of poorly received from the online fans, but obviously they don't necessarily represent all wrestling fans. So this one's tough to pick because you just don't know how a live audience would be receiving her. I think WWE is still behind them, but
00:40:06
Speaker
This could be one where the fans influence them to go ahead and make a title change. And I agree with you guys. I just got a funny feeling Charlotte's going to end up with the belt again. It's been a while since she's held the strap. And yeah, it feels like it's time for her to be back on top. And they're going to give her a little something. I mean, her fiance just headed over to the other top dog in the wrestling world. So I think they're going to try to keep their prize fighters where they can. Yep. Yep.
00:40:34
Speaker
All right, Shayna, you're up first for this one, the WWE Championship. The stipulation is if Drew McIntyre loses, he cannot challenge Bobby Lashley again for the belt. Thank God. This could be inside Hell in the Cell, Lashley versus McIntyre, part infinity. Shayna, a few fingers.
00:40:50
Speaker
I'm going with Bobby Lashley simply for the hope that Drew McIntyre can never challenge Bobby Lashley ever again. Um, so I hope this is the last showdown we see from them. But yeah, ultimately I think, I think it's going to be a good match. I mean, these guys can both put on a good match. Again, it's just going to be nothing interesting because we've seen it all before. So, um, going with Bobby on this one. All right, Marco.
00:41:12
Speaker
I'm not making the same mistake again by going against Smooth Bobby. So Smooth Bobby it is. I know this isn't a real giveaway, but this is kind of like a telltale. He penned Bobby Lashley on Monday Night Raw, which means he's not pinning him again at all. Yep. Stand tall on Monday. Freaking K-fabe. Yeah. Freaking K-fabe a little bit. So yeah, he's definitely not winning.
00:41:37
Speaker
She mentioned Brock and Cena at SummerSlam. I could see Lashley and Lesnar at SummerSlam. That's what it's looking like. If you traverse social media at all, there are rumblings. Bobby Lashley's been asking for that match. It'll be probably like a one and done because
00:41:58
Speaker
You know Bobby will probably leave like right after that or something like that or probably, you know, take a hiatus Be careful what you wish for Bobby lastly I don't know. I don't know if I could see I don't see Brock losing his first match back in in over a year You know what I mean? So I think this farm in Canada rate of whoops a mess. Yeah say this It's not gonna be a coffee thing. All right, it's gonna be yeah He's not gonna come in and beat him in eight seconds. It's definitely a good match. You never know what what Brock wants Brock gets
00:42:28
Speaker
He's not bullying Bobby Lashley like that is no way. We'll need to cut out that sound bite and save that for the the post summer slam episode. If that match ends up happening. All right, let's get to the main event, or at least what I'm assuming is going to be the main event. Yeah, definitely. Again, this is in the hell in the cell. Roman Reigns defending the universal championship against Ray Mysterio. Marco, you're the champ. You get to pick the main event first.
Hell in a Cell Predictions
00:42:54
Speaker
Thunderdome Rome. I would, I would even, I mean, love Rey Mysterio, Legend, Hall of Famer, all that stuff, accolades, countless. I'm losing, I'm running out of fingers and toes counting the accolades that Rey Mysterio has. But, no, Roman Reigns, he's, he's unstoppable. It's a Reigns train. He's just going to run right through Mysterio and head on to the next opponent. Shina, your pick.
00:43:24
Speaker
Yeah. And you can't, you can't go against Thunderdome Rome. Um, this is going to be an insane match. We kind of touched on it last week. I feel like their styles are going to mesh very well together and they're going to just like freaking tear the house down. But, um, one Roman has too much, too much on his side, too much. Um, you know, the, the Uso's can interfere and, or does he?
00:43:45
Speaker
All the Usos. Oh, that's true. Yeah, he's got Uso. But yeah, it's got to be Roman all the way. I think this might be one of Ray's last big matches on pay-per-view, so he's going to go out in style.
00:43:59
Speaker
His match against Brock for the title at Survivor Series 2019 was really good. So I'm hoping we get something similar. I just, I really want him to find a way to just kind of turn back the hands of time. Give us 1997 Ray. I don't care what kind of quarter zone shots they got to put in those knees or what they got to do to get him juiced up. But if we get Ray at his peak,
00:44:18
Speaker
This could really be a hell of a match and it's gonna be a nice clash of styles with the luchador style going up against Romans kind of deliberate Powerhouse style of wrestling. So yeah, I agree. I think Romans gonna win. I don't see any scenario where Rey Mysterio leaves with the belt but it should be pretty entertaining and then you know, we're gonna get the next chapter and whatever the
00:44:35
Speaker
you know, the Samoan Dynasty family drama's gonna be, that's gonna play out somehow or another. Should be pretty cool. How the hell is Seth and Cesaro not on this show? I mean, that closed out the pay-per-view last time. I thought we were heading towards them being in Hell in a Cell, and I thought that was gonna be awesome, but they're not even booked for a match right now. So I don't know if maybe Cesaro's banged up and they've just kept it under wraps. He's not gonna be able to do a full match or something. I mean, we don't know. We still have SmackDown. You know, we still have Friday.
00:45:04
Speaker
before we go. Right, but you would just think that for something that was a show closing angle at the last month's pay-per-view that they'd at least have it booked for a match at this point. You said it there, you would think, but you know what happens when you assume, right?
00:45:18
Speaker
So Sheena and Marco have all the exact same thoughts. We'll have to get creative. I'll come up with some sort of tiebreaker between now and Sunday. It's because we can't just have it in a straight up tie. That just can't happen. So I'll find some. Maybe we'll do the overall length of the pay-per-view and do an over-under and see which one of you guys gets closer on it. But yeah, that's going to wrap it up for the Hell in the Cell predictions. And let's move on to Go Figure.
00:45:44
Speaker
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Go Figure Segment
00:46:19
Speaker
go figures where we cover the latest and greatest in the world of wrestling figures and talk about what we've each added to our own personal collections reminder this segment is brought to you by our good friends at ringside collectibles the number one worldwide retailer in wrestling figures use code chick Foley to save 10% on all your orders at ringside and here we go
00:46:43
Speaker
Alright, Marco, take us away with figure news.
00:46:46
Speaker
Yeah, really, really light week for figure news this week. So we have mainly, we'll just call this zombie sailor news, because it's pretty much all news from the line of zombie sailor. But yeah, so when you hear this, it'll already be in effect. So June 17 is when the pre-orders start for the heels and faces line, series one for the masses.
00:47:17
Speaker
It'll be up and running for two weeks, I believe. Obviously, they're a limited run. Yeah, I think that's going to be about 2,500 of each figure. Yeah, 2,500 of each. So definitely, if you are interested, definitely get the whole set. I don't think there's one bad figure in this set. I think they're all the wanted figures for me anyway.
00:47:40
Speaker
especially with the interchangeable hands for Earl Hebner, which is pretty cool. So yeah, definitely do that. Like I said, when you hear this, it'll already be in effect. Hopefully they're not sold out on the first day. But yeah, hopefully there's some left if you get to the website to do so. But yeah, definitely order these. Yeah. Did you take advantage of the advanced presale, Marco?
00:48:03
Speaker
Yes, I did, of course. Yeah, we got our set locked in also. So I'm looking forward to them. And I figure worst case scenario, if I get them in hand and aren't feeling them 100%, you should be able to flip these for a decent price. But I'm very, very confident that these things are going to be awesome once we get them.
00:48:19
Speaker
Yeah, they look awesome. The packaging, the paint, they're going to be amazing. I don't think there are going to be any turnaways on this one here. I can't wait for the next line for Series 2 already, because with all the announcements that's happened since then and all the signings,
00:48:40
Speaker
Which is a pretty cool one that I'm going to mention next. So, you know, the major bros had their Live 8 this past week, and they announced Zombie Sailor was there, and they announced some mystery signing for a future series figure, and that is Jeff Jarrett, the infamous missing orange card figure. Yeah, so Jeff Jarrett, they actually did a video together
00:49:07
Speaker
I'm not sure if you guys have seen that. They did kind of like a promo video. Zombie Sailor and Jeff Jarrett. They signed it actually right there. He signed the deal.
00:49:17
Speaker
And the pretty cool thing about this line too is all the, anyone that get all the, all the signees, they all get a portion of the proceeds and stuff like that too. So they are making, they all, they are making money off of these figures as well. So yeah, when you're, when you purchase something easy, not only you're helping out zombie sailor, you're helping out the, uh, the wrestlers that, uh, that are having their, you know, images being portrayed. Um, so yeah, definitely, uh, definitely do that. And, uh, I'm actually really excited about this Jeff Jarrett figure. Um,
00:49:46
Speaker
Yeah, zombie came out. I think it was today or yesterday on social media and confirmed that he is going to be as close as possible to the unreleased orange card figure that we never got. So yeah, hopefully they go back and do the rest of those. You know, we were lucky enough to get diesel in the retro line, but let us get that King Mabel as well.
00:50:02
Speaker
Oh, man. Yeah, he's yeah, he's it. I mean, I think the good thing about this line is, as you see a lot of people sign on and stuff like that, and we'll see how the, you know, how successful this first series is, you'll definitely get a lot more people signing on to get figures made. I totally guarantee that. Sure. Yeah, that's, that's definitely one of the things I'm hoping for. The FOMO will kick in.
00:50:24
Speaker
Yeah, definitely anyone that doesn't have a Legends deal or signs anyone, but they're seeking the success and all the stuff with these figures. I'm hoping a lot more guys out there, a lot of obscure people from the past, jump on board and get these figures made in their likeness.
00:50:45
Speaker
We have we got to set up a zombie sailor he's gonna come on here in a couple weeks once all the dust settles from the The pre-orders and everything to come on and talk to us and basically just walk us through the process You know how he got the idea for the line some of the challenges and hurdles he faced on I'm putting it together and just where he kind of sees it going over the next year or two So it's gonna be a lot of fun to look for that in the the early part of July. I
00:51:11
Speaker
Awesome. Marco, what did you add to your collection this week? Oh, man. So I received my Alistair Black and Zelina Vega figures from Ringside Collectibles. Obviously, I use code Chick-Fully for 10% off when I purchase those. Clearly. Is that the Chase or the regular?
00:51:30
Speaker
I got the chase with the design of the D-pad, of course. Huge difference, man. Makes all the difference in the world. I'm not sure if it's going to skyrocket or anything like that, but I always have a weird inkling when people do get released and their figures are still available.
00:51:48
Speaker
you should probably purchase them right away because you never know within a few months that figure can like be i wonder what is like nxt figures now the one that was like super sound was hard to get it yet yeah t series three i believe that was yeah yeah i haven't even checked that was crazy yeah so usually people get cut
00:52:08
Speaker
Um, you know, they, their figures go up. So I took advantage of that. Um, the next figure I got, which I'm waiting for the other one, cause I ordered to, um, the Jurassic express, um, two pack. It was the, it was the chase version that I got. Yeah, the variants. So, um, yeah, so I had, uh, so I had old jungle boy carrying, uh, Luchasaurus on that package. That,
00:52:36
Speaker
The package alone is giant. It's huge. Yeah, it's huge.
00:52:39
Speaker
It's like the size of almost like a 13-inch laptop or something. Yeah. It's insane. I see this big box of ringside. What is in there? Yeah, I thought it was the two figures. I thought it was Aleister Black and Zelina Vega. I opened it up, and it's Jurassic Express. I was like, holy crap, this thing's huge. What the hell? That thing is made to get autographed. Once you start getting the convention and stuff going again, that thing will look incredible, getting it signed with a nice paint pen.
00:53:06
Speaker
Oh, yeah, definitely. Yeah, definitely autographed. And if if you're obviously if you're an MOC collector and it's it opens the flaps open up and they're perfectly displayed so you don't have to take them out of the packaging or anything like that. So that's that's also a good thing. But obviously I'm going to crack that thing open at some point and display them. So yeah, I'm waiting for the the regular version to show up because I think that's sold out before the the the variant. So are you keeping the regular version MOC?
00:53:35
Speaker
Um, I'm not sure. I'll get them both in hand and I'll make a decision on what one to open up.
00:53:42
Speaker
But you are keeping at least one of them MOC? Oh, yeah, definitely. OK. I was going to say, yeah, I was going to see if you were really just because I think the packaging is the exact same on both. Oh, no, yeah. The display is different. I think it's just funny that Jungle Boy is holding Luchasaurus on his shoulders, which is, yeah, I think they should try that one time. Just one time on TV, just have them come out opposite. Have they not done that? I feel like maybe they have done that. Yeah, I thought that's what the variant was based off of. Did they do that? Yeah, that's why they did the variant because there was one time where Jungle Boy did come out. I have to look that up. The Luchasaurus.
00:54:12
Speaker
Yeah. We'll have to ask the two bad chads when that was. I'm almost certain that that has happened. Huh. But yeah, that's it. That's it for my purchases. So for us this week, it was all customs. We got a couple of custom wrestling buddies of HBK and Diesel from Toy Snobs. Those things came out great. Those are awesome. Oh my gosh. They look incredible. I'm so, so disappointed that we won't see any more of those because they're awesome.
00:54:41
Speaker
Yeah. If you, uh, if you picked up the undertaker one that he released on the wide scale back at the end of 2019, it's the exact same, uh, same size and same feel as, uh, as though, so it fits in very nicely with the rest of your official, um, official wrestling buddies. And then we got a very special package from our buddy lane, AKA the mad reaper, AKA the best estimizer in the world. So we got all denim Bret Hart from that iconic photo. Yeah.
00:55:10
Speaker
in front of the pond with the snow covered mountain in Canada. He's wearing my absolute favorite piece of Brett Hartmarch. I love that tank top so much. I have an original one of those tank tops and Brett's wearing it. Yeah. And you guys, if you know me, I love all denim everything. So seeing Brett just like denim on denim on denim, standing in the snow in his cowboy boots, like that's one of my absolute favorite iconic photos. And yeah, Lane hooked it up. He created
00:55:36
Speaker
what is just an incredible piece for our collection like it like totally rounded out our brick collection in a way that I didn't even know needed to be rounded out so thank you so much lane like it is it is amazing if you guys aren't following the mad reaper you are 1000 missing out so follow him at
00:55:53
Speaker
Mad Reaper on Instagram also Tell him about what he the surprise he gifted you. Yes So, you know, we commissioned him to make the denim God and then I got a surprise bonus gift in there It was like it was like when Pam opened the teapot, you know, I was just like all like taken aback by by Lane's kindness and his thoughtfulness he created a ring gear custom and
00:56:17
Speaker
Chick Foley figure using my face sculpt from the Natalia Decade of Domination figure. And he did like custom ring gear that says Chick Foley. It's his hip mom. It's based, it's like, you know, I got my championship pants on. What? I got my, yeah, my top. Marco, I'm sending you a video of it right now, Marco.
00:56:37
Speaker
Yeah, I can't wait to show you guys pictures of it. Um, I just haven't gotten around to taking some photos of it yet, but yeah, it looks incredible.
Custom Chick Foley Figure
00:56:44
Speaker
So now we have street gear, you know, interview backstage promo chick Foley that we have our custom chick Foley figure that we created. And then I've got my own mad Reaper custom that he surprised me with. So again, I cannot thank you so much, uh, lane for just being, being an amazing friend and just, you know, all the things that you do for us and.
00:57:03
Speaker
Like I said, please follow him, support all of his ventures because he's the freaking man. Yeah. Let me know when that comes through, Marko. I want to hear your thoughts on it, man.
00:57:12
Speaker
The, yeah, Matt Reaper's crazy. We hooked up with him back in 2018 when he was doing his Bullet Club set. And it's, you know, I'm very glad that we were able to build that relationship with him because he just, he makes the most incredible figures out there. He's an artist, man. You know, there's lots of customizers out there and we have so many incredible customizer friends that just do awesome work. And Lane is just, yeah, like the stuff that he does is like... Yeah, that's awesome.
00:57:41
Speaker
That's pretty amazing. Yeah. Like I said, it like took me, like choked me up a little bit. You know, he's at this really nice card and then I like, you know, I had no idea what it was. He's like, I threw a bonus gift in there for you. And so I opened up the card and there was like some little stickers and magnets and stuff. And I was like, Oh, that was so sweet. He sent like stickers and magnets. And then it was like another figure in there. And it just was like, Oh my gosh. I have to hit him. I have to hit him up now for a custom. You already get the head scoped with the, the UFC, Daniel Cormier.
00:58:10
Speaker
Yeah, I do. Yeah. I mean, definitely. Yeah. No, that's, that's pretty amazing. Yeah. You got to pick what kind of ring gear you want, Marco. You got to figure out whether you're, whether you're a singlet man, whether you're a championship pants man, a trunks man. You could take a side. Yeah. Mark, obviously if you got a better idea, you know, have at it, but I'm thinking.
00:58:27
Speaker
get that Daniel Cormier head sculpt, all right? Going on a Kevin Owens figure, because then you got the shorts. You could do the Chick Foley show shorts on the thinker form. Oh my gosh. Kevin Owens figure. That's a good, that's actually, that's an awesome idea, actually. Yeah, man. So, yeah, the possibility is endless. And I'm telling you guys, if you could dream it up, the mad reaper could make it happen.
00:58:49
Speaker
So definitely hit them up if you're in the mix for some customs.
00:59:25
Speaker
It's time for How Many Chicks. How Many Chicks is a segment where I, the heel husband, pick out one of our 1000 plus wrestling figures from our collection and present it to Sheena live on the air for an instant rating and review.
How Many Chicks Segment
00:59:39
Speaker
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00:59:50
Speaker
You can visit Amage's online shop at Amage.com and find all their latest designs on social media at Amage. That's H-O-M-A-G-E. All right, Sheena, do you have the Undertaker's casket in front of you? I do. All right, so I'm gonna hit the drum roll when it comes out. Sheena's gonna give us a live, on-the-fly review of whatever figure is inside of there.
01:00:23
Speaker
Oh boy. We have the original DMD, Isaac freaking Yankum. Oh my God.
01:00:42
Speaker
That has got to be the worst theme music of all time. That was horrible. Like legit chills at my spine hearing that. Even though the new generation was like the era of goofy wrestlers as occupation gimmicks, I actually feel like the evil dentist gimmick could get over even more so nowadays. Just with social media, I think we all have more of a shared hatred of the dentist than we did back in the
01:01:10
Speaker
in the 90s when, you know, hating the dentist was kind of everybody's own thing. Yeah. Yeah, I think the music is just horrible. So you get the mix of the drills, which nobody likes that sound. I don't care who you are. Nobody likes that freaking sound. And then it's mixed in with
01:01:27
Speaker
with the actual dentist music, you know what I mean? That horrible like music, like just like soft, like nothing kind of tune in the background. So yeah, shout out to Jim Johnson, man. That's why it was the best. Cause he could make, you know, he can make bangers like Steve Austin and the rocks themes and he can make stuff that just made you straight up hate whoever is about to make their entrance. But yeah, so Sheena, describe the figure to us.
01:01:48
Speaker
So he has on his, you know, white dental scrub shirt. He's got his, I don't even know what you call those like ocular, like magnifying glass thing. Like head gear. Yeah. He's got like, he's like his head gear, his dental head gear. They did a good job getting his rotten teeth all up in there and his perfect little curly mullet. Yeah. This is an incredible figure. This was a San Diego Comic Con exclusive.
01:02:18
Speaker
And they nailed it. Like this is everything that a San Diego Comic Con exclusive should be. It should be something that is for the collectors, for the hardcore collectors. It's something that rounds out your collection. Like I said, like the denim god, right? Like it's something that you don't even know, like you need that piece of your collection. Cause this is such an obscure gimmick and it was so short lived that it's just like, you kind of just forget about it. And the fact that we have a figure to remember Isaac Yankum by, and what a great name for a dentist, Isaac Yankum.
01:02:48
Speaker
You know? Yeah. I really like this video. What do you guys think about it? That was the 2018 Comic Con exclusive, but it actually ended up being available on Toys R Us online of all places. So I was shocked. You know, thoughts and prayers for Toys R Us. I'd say we ended up getting it through was TRU. But I love the figure. Like I said, I'm all about the new generation.
01:03:08
Speaker
Those gimmicks were so goofy and even though they weren't really great on screen. They were so Toyota all the bright colors and just Wacky wacky characters that made for great figures and that was our first Isaac Jacob. So very exciting Do you have this figure?
01:03:24
Speaker
I do not know. I was actually looking at purchase of this maybe a couple of years ago. I'm not sure what the price of it is now. It's probably astronomical for some crazy reason. It's a cool one, MOC. It looks like they made it look like a dental chart and everything and then the back of it kind of gives a little bio and it gives a little wink and a nod. It says that his time as a dentist was short lived and he bounced around to
01:03:48
Speaker
Some other professions such as being a truck driver before he found his ultimate destiny because you know Glenn Jacobs He ended up after dropping the IZ Gankham gimmick He became fake diesel and then we all know he ultimately ended up being the Undertaker's younger brother Kane So pretty legendary wrestler, you know, this dude's just been around for so long now. He's the freakin mayor of Knoxville. I think we really need that fake to
01:04:14
Speaker
Yeah, fake kind of round out all the faces of Glenn Jacobs. What do you think, Marco? Would you buy it? Would you buy a fake diesel figure?
01:04:22
Speaker
Oh yeah, definitely like a faces of Glenn. You have like, uh, you have Isaac Yankham, Kane and a fake diesel. That'd be pretty cool. Like a three pack. That'd be pretty awesome. And he, he, he appeared in WWE as the mayor of Knox County. Um, what was the, he, it was in a football stadium. I cannot remember what he won the, um, he won the 24 seven. Was that when he, was that when he won the 24 seven championship? Yeah. From our truth. Yeah.
01:04:49
Speaker
Yeah. So he could, he, we could have a mayor of Knox County Kane wrestling figure. Yeah. The cool thing is the corporate Kane figure, that one could double as your American figure. Oh yeah. That's true. Yeah. I wasn't thinking about that. Yeah. We had the corporate Kane build a figure from the, uh, the WrestleMania 30 elites. That's right. All right. So now it's time for the big, uh, the big question. It's a 10 it's a five point scale, but you can go through, uh, you know, 10th points. Sheena, how many chicks do you give Isaac?
01:05:18
Speaker
Oh man. Okay. So I'm going to give this a, I'm going to give it a 3.8 because I'm going to give it higher points because it's unique. Again, it rounds out your collection. It is a little bit beefy. I just feel, I don't remember Isaac Yankum being like this
01:05:37
Speaker
muscled up. He looks humongous and he's got muscles on muscles on muscles. I don't think I ever remember Kane looking that... He was a big guy. He was never that chiseled up. He was never that chiseled. The historical accuracy of his physique is a little bit off. Two, it kind of loses points for being so niche. It's not really an iconic moment in wrestling history or anything like that, but he definitely is an iconic character. Yeah, 3.8 for me.
01:06:05
Speaker
Okay, Margot See Probably go with a three for this for this figure mainly for the same reasons He yeah, I don't like I don't like that he wasn't really that jacked until he actually became like came Even when he was a fake diesel. He wasn't like super
01:06:27
Speaker
Even when he was came he was big and he just like he didn't he just didn't have that like steroid look, you know Like I feel like yeah, this figure looks like it has been on the like most HGH that you've ever seen like it is He's got like veins and stuff popping out of its muscles on this figure. So yeah Yeah, the head sculpts pretty pretty Decent the head sculpt spot on I think I think it looks I think it looks great. I
01:06:53
Speaker
I do like the soft goods shirt that he has, so that's pretty awesome as well. I wish they made it more like the shirt that he had. I mean, they kind of did like the side. Does it peel off from the side? Yeah. Yeah, so it's like a scrub shirt. It kind of like crosses over, you know? Okay, yeah.
01:07:11
Speaker
I kind of wish it came with some more like accessories, maybe like a kind of like a drill or something like that, like a little something. I don't know. Something besides that head to head gear or whatever. But yeah, what about you, Bethy?
01:07:26
Speaker
So I'm going to give it a 4.2. I like a little bit more than both you guys. My reasoning on that is I just, I think it's, it's historically significant because it is the first, it's the only figure of Isaac Yankham. So I give it both points for being the only ever Isaac Yankham figure.
01:07:43
Speaker
I think you guys are right. The, maybe some of the part choices are a little bit off. I was never a fan of the legs on that figure it's got the same kind of legs that any of the suited elite figures have. Yeah, which they have slightly different articulation from the regular leads and I've never been a fan on that so I take some points off for that and then I take some a couple points off just because IZ gankin was really like a joke of a character so I can't give it too high but
01:08:06
Speaker
It gets bonus points for me for again, the incredible packaging also. You can't forget about that. It did have some incredible packaging and just being the only ever figure that we got. Is he the only dentist ever in WWE? Um, I believe so. Yeah. I think him and Britt Baker that went to dentists in wrestling history. Yeah. Well, well, I mean, she did make it apparent. So he's not the only dentist. She wasn't sure. Yeah.
01:08:34
Speaker
But yeah, I think that's it. So we've only had three figures on how many chicks since we kind of re-baseline the scoring, because Sheena was just all over the place. You know, she was giving Becky Lynch Basics like a 4.9. Did I not have great reasoning for all of my...
01:08:51
Speaker
My problem was I didn't have a baseline for like what the standards of grading were. I was basing each figure by itself on kind of like its own scale, but I had excellent reasoning for all of my scores. No, you were able to explain why you scored them, but the individual scores in relation to each other just made zero sense whatsoever. Well, that's true. So that's why I had to do the baseline.
01:09:13
Speaker
IZY Gankum is got the second highest score ever. Darby Allen with an average of 4.5 is still far and away number one. IZY Gankum averaged out to a 3.7. And then Basic 21, Alicia Fox averaged out to a 3.1 for those keeping score at home. So Darby is still the king of how many chicks.
The Extra Cooler Show Introduction
01:09:33
Speaker
Hey everyone, it's Nick, better known as Extra Cooler. Is there anything better than diving back into the wrestling archives and watching classic matches from the past?
01:09:42
Speaker
Yes, there is. It's doing that with your buddies while cracking jokes and enjoying some ice cold beverages. If that sounds like fun to you, then be sure to check out my new podcast, The Extra Cooler Show, where each episode, my Survivor Series team and I review an old school match chosen by you, the listeners. The Extra Cooler Show is available wherever you get your podcasts. Be sure to subscribe and follow us for new episodes every other Thursday morning.
01:10:21
Speaker
Random Merch of the Week is where we scour the deep recesses of the internet to track down hard to find and never before seen wrestling merchandise and share it with you, the Foley fam. You can find links to purchase our rare finds in the show notes of every episode. This segment is brought to you by Pro Wrestling Tees. Visit the official Chick Foley show store by searching Chick Foley at ProWrestlingTees.com or hitting the link in our show notes.
01:10:44
Speaker
All right, so I have absolutely zero context for this piece that you dug up this week, Marco. Tell us about this Hulk Hogan shirt from Japan that you found. I have no context for it either. I just thought it was a very weird, rare shirt. So yeah, it seems like it's a... I'm assuming New Japan era when Hulk Hogan was in New Japan. Yeah, it looks like it is from the early 90s. It doesn't look 80s to me.
01:11:14
Speaker
It's creepy looking. There's a black and white sketch of Hulk Hogan with lip marks all over him, like kissing lip marks all over him.
01:11:29
Speaker
You can tell it's Hulk Hogan, but this is Hulk Hogan who's been dead and buried. Looks like Jigsaw's puppet, man. He looks like he... Yeah, if Jigsaw and the Crip Keeper had a baby, it would be this image right here. It is pretty horrifying, to be quite honest. I feel like, I don't know, it makes me... And it says, in this world, all women are mine. So, Hulk's a polygamist, in addition to be a racist piece of shit.
01:11:58
Speaker
Oh my gosh. Probably the one Sponge bought that shirt. He'd really take it to heart. He was right, man. I could see this definitely being sold in Japan during his time there, but
01:12:15
Speaker
Is this a very i just seen it i was just like what the hell is even if it's like a bootleg shirt it is very it's a very strange shirt yeah it's 72 dollars too so i'm assuming if we have any listeners over from the in the land of the rising sun maybe reach out maybe there's something that we're losing in translation between a
01:12:35
Speaker
You know, the Japanese Hulk Hogan and the American version, but this shirt made zero sense. Maybe he was like a, like a, maybe that was his gimmick over in Japan that all, all women was his, he was the ladies' man, Hulk Hogan. I have no context, but this shirt is super creepy. Um, again, wrestling, wrestling merch is higher than giraffe punani right now. So even this ugly shirt, like he said is, is, you know, priced at 70 bucks. So.
01:13:01
Speaker
We should ask a wrestling for sale and see if he has any more information on the shirt. It looks in really good condition. It's still bagged up. I honestly, man, I kind of question if this might just be like a remake and somebody just wanted to go for something like kitschy and weird to see if somebody would drop some coin on it. But yeah, we definitely hit up Ted.
01:13:20
Speaker
and see what he can tell us about this thing there's no I just searched like hokomania japan there's no sold listings or anything and I did a google search I can find no other record of this shirt being a thing so yeah if you're if you're an expert on hokogan's time in japan or any kind of vintage wrestling merch hit us up and let us know what you can find on this shirt Marco are you gonna pull the trigger on this thing man
01:13:40
Speaker
Uh, I'm thinking about it. I mean, if I want to get my children nightmare fuel, I definitely purchase a shirt. But, uh, yeah, this is like, I mean, it, when you talk about random merchants, it doesn't look like it's there. It doesn't look like a vintage tag to me. I'm looking at the tag. It's like, this thing looks crispy. It looks pretty strong. Yeah.
01:14:01
Speaker
100% cotton. It just doesn't look like... I know Anvil still makes teas, man. Yeah, Anvil is... They use that logo. I'm pretty certain. I'm pretty sure that's like a modern, you know. Yeah. Either way, whether it's actually vintage or not, it's definitely random. But yeah, it's just like the level of like, I don't know, the white on it. Creepiness. Oh yeah, just like the white on the quality of print. There's like zero fade. Even if someone was in mint condition from the 90s, it would still have a little bit of fade to it.
01:14:30
Speaker
Pretty wild either way. Yeah, definitely hit us up if you guys buy this or if you know anything about this and can educate us.
Favorite Horror Movies Discussion
01:14:38
Speaker
Sheena, do we got any listener mail this week? Yeah, we do. All right. As usual, we have a question coming in from our buddy Zach Hertzler. He says, what is your favorite horror movie? Marco, I'll start with you. Oh, man. Favorite horror movie? Yeah. Oh.
01:15:01
Speaker
That's rough. That's a hard one. It is tough. There's so many good ones. Yeah. Let me see. I'll go with the very, very, very first saw because I was actually, I actually see that in theaters. That's pretty terrifying. Yeah. And just see the twist at the end of that movie. Yeah, that movie started a whole, yeah, it started a whole revolution.
01:15:25
Speaker
evolution of those types of films where it was just like the torture porn style horror movie genre. I think it really started with Saw because then you have movies like Hostel and things like that that kind of spun off from that. And then the multiple Saw's, I think what was it, like seven Saw's or something like that. Crazy. It was a newer one too that just came out.
01:15:47
Speaker
spiral from the book of Saw. And then directed by Chris Rock or something? Oh yeah, Chris Rock is in Samuel L. Jackson. Wow. Samuel L. Jackson is in it as well. Interesting. You can actually, it's in theaters and you can rent it. We were going to rent it over the weekend, the wife and I, and it was like $20 to rent for like two days. And we were like, yeah, that's like buying prices. So we'll wait for it to actually come out on digital and purchase it. But yeah. What about you, Sethi?
01:16:13
Speaker
Um, I gotta go trick or treat. I just really liked that movie. Such an awesome movie. Yeah. Really great movie. Like that's like the one movie every Halloween. Absolutely have to watch that movie. Oh yeah. So I, I, I have to agree. Trick or treat is amazing. I kind of classify that as a Halloween.
01:16:31
Speaker
movie more so than just a horror movie. It is a horror movie. So that is a perfect answer. But my reason for not putting that at the top of my list is I qualify it in a whole different category. It's a Halloween movie for me because it is the epitome of the vibe that I want to live by for Halloween. It's amazing.
01:16:49
Speaker
My favorite horror movie this is like so multifaceted. I I gotta go with the original nightmare on Elm Street I love love love Just how scary Freddy Krueger was like he was just terrifying terrifying to me. He's definitely one of my favorite
01:17:04
Speaker
classic horror movie villains. Of course, I love all the big classic slashers, but Scream was another really great one because it was the first one that was really self-aware as far as a horror movie. Like it kind of made fun of horror movies and horror movie tropes and stuff. And I just remember watching that and I used to babysit my brother, I guess not babysit, but I was like his big sister. My parents worked at night and stuff, so I would like keep him. So here I am out in the middle of the country and Scream was just like,
01:17:32
Speaker
I was like, oh, well, you know, uh, Ghostface is going to come out here in the middle of the country and just like slice and dice me open. So yeah, I absolutely loved, uh, the scream. All West Craven, of course. So loved West Craven. So Scream and, uh, Nightmare on Elm Street. There's
80s & 90s Wrestlers Today
01:17:49
Speaker
so many that I love though. I mean, there's so many that I don't even have time to mention, but I would have to go for those as like my, my top of the list. Um,
01:17:58
Speaker
Jordan says, what is one wrestler, Jordan Wells, the Fig God, Jordan Wells, what is one wrestler from the 80s or 90s that wasn't a main event talent that you feel would be a top star in today's wrestling industry? I'll start with you, Seth.
01:18:12
Speaker
That's a great question I think dynamite kid man, I think dynamite kid was You know, he kind of was a main eventer in Japan as far as the states go He was strictly a tag team wrestler and I feel like if he was around today his hard-hitting style I think he would be right up in the main event with with the pox or with the Kyle O'Reilly's in NXT or AWS Don't know if he'd main event WWE
01:18:35
Speaker
But he could definitely main event in some of the other organizations because the guy was just so far ahead of his time and was really the inspiration behind guys like Chris Benoit and Daniel Bryan for the style that they wrestle with to this day. Yeah, I had a tag team wrestler. I was thinking Tito's to Nintendo would be a good a good guy that would be a star today because even though he was like, you know, continental champ and you know, all that stuff and all the stuff that you did with Strike Force and I think he I just feel like he would have been a good fit for, you know, modern day wrestling too.
01:19:05
Speaker
Yeah. Marco, you got anybody in mind? Um, I was, I was going to say dynamite kid, but after watching that dark side of the ring, we can't, we're not taking any personal time, you know, he would have had more, he would have had the wellness program. He'll keep them on track and just not the wild, wild West anymore. Like it was back in the, uh, back in the eighties.
01:19:28
Speaker
Yeah, I'm going to say, uh, just for, cause he was like kind of like big, um, not, not big in like fame, but like big in size. And he was doing some crazy booze. I probably say too cold Scorpio nowadays, since he's like, um, super athletic. I mean, he's doing something.
01:19:45
Speaker
crazy stuff way back when before it was like even popular popular now just to see those guys do like obviously he wasn't as he's not as big as Keith Lee like in size but you know just him doing that those type of aerial moves being like 200 plus was 50 yeah so i think i think he'd be pretty uh pretty up there in the popularity so would you have him as a as too close corporate or would you have him as flash funk
01:20:11
Speaker
You have to go too cold. Probably drop the Scorpio, just maybe just keep it too cold. Too cold, yeah. Or just cold or something like that, or something like that. Scorpio's too close, like Sting. Maybe partner up with Sting, who knows if he was a younger guy. Just kind of like the guy Darby Allen's doing. But yeah, definitely him. He was ahead of his time in that sense. Just sort of a big guy that can do those crazy aerial moves.
01:20:37
Speaker
All right. Next question comes in from Johnny JB. He says, did you guys watch the original ECW? If so, who was your favorite? Mine was a tie between Taz and Sabu. Seth.
01:20:50
Speaker
Yeah, Taz and RVD is probably a classic, but I love Taz. I still remember getting WWF No Mercy, or no, this is WrestleMania 2000, so the game before No Mercy. So this is WrestleMania 2000, came out at the end of 1989. I remember getting it on Nintendo 64, and before I even started a match, first thing I did was go on and create Taz, because it had an awesome, it was the first game that had a really super robust
01:21:15
Speaker
create a player and you can go in and see all the moves. And I just remember creating Taz and adding like 55 suplexes on there and then playing them. It was just so much fun. So yeah, I would definitely say Taz for sure. Yeah. All right. And Margo, did you agree or do you have a separate answer?
01:21:33
Speaker
Yeah, I did love Taz, obviously, because he was a little guy just destroying everybody. But I was a huge fan of Rob Van Damme, because I was a huge fan of Jean-Claude Van Damme when I was younger. So just seeing someone that looked like him that was in a wrestling ring, doing, again, stuff that you've never seen before. Yeah.
01:21:54
Speaker
And then after I actually watched his icons episode recently, it just him knowing that he actually did kickboxing like he was like professional kickboxer at one point in his life when he was younger, just destroying everybody that even made his legend even more. Like even more like fantastic to me. So yeah, definitely Rob Van Dam was my was my favorite guy and I ECW.
Harry Potter & WWE Crossover
01:22:19
Speaker
All right, and last question again from Zach Hertzler. He says, thanks to the P of the cock. I have been binge watching Harry Potter movies. Do you guys have a favorite Harry Potter movie? I know I started with you last time Seth, but I got to start with you because this is right up Seth's alley. Seth is the biggest Harry Potter nerd that I know. So what is your favorite Harry Potter movie, Seth?
01:22:39
Speaker
Mine is definitely prisoner Azkaban and that's really a testament to how good that movie is because I typically hate Any movie that's not back to the future that includes time travel because I feel like once you introduce time travel It lowers the stakes for everything else that happens because anytime somebody dies like either one you don't really get the full emotional impact of it because you're thinking
01:23:03
Speaker
Okay, you know they're surely they're gonna turn back time. He's not gonna be dead or yeah You're just wondering like you know why didn't they just you know you're questioning like how come they turn back time before and on this one even Harry Potter is Flawless as that series is and I do think it's the best like fantasy story ever you know I put it up against Star Wars game of thrones ever you guys want Harry Potter is the best and
01:23:27
Speaker
even they had to say, like at the start of book four, Goblet of Fire, they had to throw a quick line in about how, you know, the Ministry of Magic destroyed all the time turners. So, you know, obviously we're getting down the rabbit hole, but, but yeah, Prisoner Azkaban is really, really good. I recommend watching the whole series, but I love that one. And that's the last one that's kind of like a kid's movie, really starting with Goblet of Fire. They get a lot more grown up and
01:23:48
Speaker
I really love the first three Harry Potter movies. Yeah, the first three are so good. I think they just feel so wholesome the first three. Then it gets kind of dark and they get a little bit grown. I definitely have a soft spot for like Chamber of Secrets because Brett, he just loves that movie. It's just so magical and they're really getting into like, they're flying. I mean, there's house elves. I mean, you just have all the things that just make magic so much fun. And Brett just absolutely loves that movie. So I have a special place for Chamber of Secrets. I think they did a good job.
01:24:17
Speaker
They worked out the kinks from after the first film you know i mean cuz nobody really knew exactly how they're gonna be able to bring this crazy story. To the screen definitely got some rough spots there some spots in the first movie that don't age super well but i feel like by the second one they really had a down pat and they're kinda just on cruise control through the rest of the series.
01:24:35
Speaker
Yeah, I agree. What about you, Marco? I was definitely going to say Prisoner of Azkaban. Yeah, it's the best for sure. But yeah, I would probably say Chamber of Secrets is probably... I'll just go with that one, definitely. Like you said, with the... with just hitting the stride with all the magic and everything and stuff like that.
01:24:55
Speaker
Yeah, it just really sets the tone and sets the stage for what's gonna come for the rest of that. What to expect really as far as the magic and all the mythical characters and all that kind of stuff. So yeah, love, love, love Chamber of Secrets. That was a great question to end on. I could talk Harry Potter all day long.
01:25:12
Speaker
I know. Soon, just stay tuned for the Harry Potter spin-offs. That's going to go on five hour long, monologue. Patreon episode. Patreon episode, yeah. I've read the entire book series three times, man, so I don't know how many times I've watched the movies.
01:25:27
Speaker
We'll book Harry Potter and WWE. Oh, yeah. Yes. We'll do. We'll do a full tournament. You know, I mean, there is magic. I mean, no, I mean, like you could say as a WWE superstar, how would Harry Potter to you? I mean, you have like you have Undertaker who had powers in. You have Bray Wyatt, Papa Shango, the Fiend.
01:25:48
Speaker
How would Harry Potter fare? How would he do? How would he measure up to the magic in WWE and WCW? What would he do? Let's block it. Let's see what happens.
Wrap-Up & Final Thoughts
01:26:03
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All right. That wraps up listener mail for today.
01:26:06
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01:26:36
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Let's leave you with this. May the wind behind your back be your own.