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Season 2- Episode 25- Cip's Courage
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Woo, everyone caught their breath yet? Yeah, us neither. It's a big episode for you this week we chat about 4 different competitions, some more extensive than others. We take a look at 6 Nations and pick at the official selections just a tad on top of it. We review some of the more significant happenings in the Premiership including a certain 4-Try hero's full moon. Then we go down to Super Rugby and discuss the happenings of a few teams, including what seems to be the lack of fire power with the Bulls. Of course we dive into starts and sit for both Premiership and Super rugby. Tune in, get on your listening pants and enjoy!
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Introduction and Weekend Overview
00:00:08
Speaker
Hey everybody, how's it going? It is the fancy rugby angst. My name's Jared Dyke. I'm Ben Glaser. We're back. We're in. We got a lot to cover. Welcome in. It was a busy weekend. If you didn't pay attention to what was going on last weekend, I couldn't because I was relaxing, trying to at least. And I did as much as I could, but fuck, there was a ton of rugby. Yeah, there's always so much one person can intake.
00:00:28
Speaker
you know, I am somewhat addicted to this sport, but there's a limit. There's still a limit on that. Still, it turns out. Yeah, it turns out there is a limit. Right. Just don't know, just don't know what it is.
00:00:39
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I think we're gonna get seven or eight matches
Podcast Promotion and Listener Interaction
00:00:42
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this weekend. I think that was my, I think I hit it. I got six or seven. I don't remember, but yeah, there was, that was, that was pretty good for me on vacation too. Like trying not to spend too much time in front of a television or a screen. I actually ended up hitting nine matches.
00:00:58
Speaker
There you go. Yeah. Well, I took I took Friday off cuz I ah that didn't feel like going into work and I was like, well I could wake up and watch some Crusaders hurricane and go from there calendars That's right. Trust me. I would know if there you would know that I wrote down the wrong All right, let's pop these. Oh shit. I'm late
00:01:22
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00:01:40
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Yeah. We've gotten some decent feedback recently from some Twitter friends. So that's good. I'm trying to try to cut down on the swearing a little bit, not to, you know, say who are we? Yeah. I can understand. We're Americans over here.
00:01:55
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Well, I've had people in my, in my business that are like, oh, the swearing. I'm like, I'm not swearing because I just, for the sake of swearing, I'm putting emphasis on it and it flows. I'm sorry.
Cultural Reflections on Language
00:02:08
Speaker
I can't help it. I, dude, I grew up in the state of Maine where there's three languages. There's French, there's English, and there's swearing.
00:02:14
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No in all three. Yeah, and you could do all that you could do both in offering so they go All right Make sure you're looking at your TRM upgrades. Obviously, we're back into prom this weekend They are going through a small upgrade overnight here in the US. So most people are probably in bed Anyway, so they won't know it so that but
00:02:36
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Once you get yourself set with that, you'll you'll be able to not suffer some sort of terrible punishment from your friends. How helpful was that this weekend? Oh, my goodness. So many line of changes. I mean, first off, you log in and you look at your lineup and you're like red.
00:02:52
Speaker
Every all the way through so much red so much red Man, it was three or four hookers all of them red. I'm like, oh you got to be not good kidding me. Not good. No Yeah, it was it was very helpful to know who was starting at the very least Get him out. Gotta get him out. Gotta get him out. None of my props are starting, but they're all gray. Okay, that's fine They'll get in they'll get me some points. Yeah
00:03:16
Speaker
They'll play 30 minutes instead of 60 very very few props. We'll play the whole game. So yeah, definitely gonna be looking at some guys to Unless what team there was a team? Did somebody make their whole front row go to the front? Someone's props went went the distance. Yeah, I mean good for your fancy points, but man, that's yeah That's a pair of tired props.
Fantasy Rugby Insights and Team Analysis
00:03:37
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I'm sure it was pretty bad And let me see if I can figure out who it was quickly, but if I can't then we'll just move on That's right
00:03:43
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00:04:06
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It was Bath, by the way. Wow, really? Boyson Judge went the distance. Good for Judgey. Paz and Nixon didn't get in the match. Yo, baby. I know Stewart's away. I guess Abano might be hurt. I guess. Be my guess. Or he needs to rest.
00:04:22
Speaker
Yeah, boy, because I think he went the distance last week. Oh, geez. I'm not mistaken. So, yeah, Boyce and Judge went the distance, at least close to it. If not, I mean, they, Paz and Nixon both got one point, the standard one point for not playing. Yeah, for just being on the bench. Before we get to, we have a lot to cover rugby wise, but we have to recognize the courageousness and the absolute honesty from Danny Cipriani they put out there. That was
00:04:52
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if you haven't seen the video go to danny surprise instagram and It's 20 minutes long, but it's it's everything you need to hear. Yeah, it's everything you need to hear and it's something that we need to and to to hear in this society, especially around
00:05:07
Speaker
You know how we see the media and how we interact with the media it was fantastic Ultimately, I mean everything else aside the courage it took for him to share very deep a lot of deep personal stuff about yourself Yeah, and that's good to hear cuz fuck
00:05:24
Speaker
Danny Cipriani has the world by his dick and yet there he is at 22 Considering suicide. It's not you know, it's not a thing that you can just say Oh, you know, I would never do that bubble. So nobody else should you can't no can't make that decision for anyone but yourself and
00:05:43
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And I'm glad he made the decision that he made. I'm glad he's still around. Yeah. And ultimately, his message is spot on. So thank you, Cipriani, for sharing that with us. Thanks, Danny. That was good stuff, DC. Yeah, so in the end, be fucking nice, people. Yeah, be
Major League Rugby Update
00:05:57
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kind. I love that.
00:05:58
Speaker
Yeah, be nice. Good message. Quick MLR whip around. Unfortunately MLR completely screwed the pooch. We won't get too deep into that one. It's old news. In any case, Nola beat Colorado, 27-20. Austin and Utah tied 20 a piece. DC won again. DC 22, Houston 13. Toronto won again. They beat Seattle. The defending champs are a little bit reeling.
00:06:23
Speaker
It's y'all 17 Toronto 39 as a talking the freejacks loosen them up. Yeah No, no other way around cuz they're losing them up for us. That's true La 19 New York 22 New York pits up at second wind Atlanta goes down for the first time this year. I
00:06:38
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And San Diego stays undefeated, defeating our beloved free jacks, 30 to 21. I guess the free jacks put up a pretty good fight. He didn't watch the game again. I'm an MLR issue that I'm not going to dive too deep into. It's old news. They took the lead, I think, with about 10 minutes to play and just couldn't hold it, unfortunately. But hey, the free jacks are one and two, but they've played two of the best teams in the league. Right. And they're going to go play the third, the defending champs. Right.
00:07:05
Speaker
a little bit of a road trip two and two that's pretty good right even even you know even going on this road trip one and three i'll take because of what what it was oh like um
00:07:17
Speaker
There's a lot of bodies missing for this team too. Kenny Hatakiama's out. Obviously our friend Tony's out, Ty Leader's out. Boden Waka's out. That's tough for our names right there to be missing. International quality all around. I don't think Hamapo played this match in particular.
00:07:37
Speaker
Yeah, so yeah, there's a lot of there's a lot of bodies missing for this team that will definitely make a difference when they are healthy So that's that's what we'll get to there.
Six Nations Recap: Italy vs Scotland
00:07:47
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Let's go to Six Nations. Let's go to Rome it was Unfortunate day probably for Italians and the news doesn't keep doesn't get any better after that but The game itself. Yeah was not no was not the best
00:08:05
Speaker
Italy had them they had so many opportunities to take this game Really disappointed and it's just a couple things. They're their strength in contact as in not only being able to Make the tackles or take the tackles but to hold on to the ball in a tackle like They're getting hit and the hits aren't that strong and that ball shooting out like they got lit up and have no arms
00:08:28
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, you know who their ball carriers are pleasurey stain busy had a few good ones Um, really that was it. Those are the best ball carriers probably and and I thought they made the mistakes of if you're gonna have dummy runners You can have one or two per level of your attack They would have like five forwards sitting out wide in almost a line and just pass behind them and scotland are like
00:08:50
Speaker
Yeah, there's nothing you can do because the ball is in front of her behind you you know, you can't I'm not I don't need to Defend you at all. No, you're just in the way. They work their way through the wash and make the tackle behind the game line Just they didn't stack their forwards. Well They didn't change the direction of the ball any so when it started going out wide it never came back inside It always just went out and that Scotland they're not the best. They're not the smartest but they had defense and
00:09:19
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Even the the dumbest and the the slowest can defend that because you're like, oh, just going that way. All right. Well, then I'll just shepherd them towards the sideline and then hit them and they'll lose the ball. So. Presto. Right. Yeah, it was. And that explains Scotland. Yeah, that's basically it. Oh, man. There was a terrible possession was pretty much down the middle. But everything else, you know, pretty much favored Scotland territory. They were all. Yeah.
00:09:48
Speaker
Uh, uh, Italy need to remember how to clear their own lines and Yeah, maybe they can start to play in the right end of the field Because they didn't seem to want to do that too often or at least too effectively So that probably is the biggest thing that costs them not playing in the right area of the area of the field then in the end
00:10:07
Speaker
Scotland haven't had enough class. I mean between the likes of hog and Hastings and their back their back three, which is a good back three Especially between Jamie Ritchie and Hamish Watson. But I was Ben Tillis came in and Played a very good game for this team stole a bunch of lineouts. So we got to give him a little bit of credit for that even though he's replacing a Almost a legend for Scotland in gray. I
00:10:31
Speaker
Yeah. Um, that was, that was huge for him to come in and make that impact with that missing him. Um, then Poggie with the two arms on the ball. I am not dropping this one. Hey, whatever. No shame. Just be sure. Yeah. That's good for the kids to see.
00:10:50
Speaker
Because even the best in the world make the mistakes. And you know what the best do? They recover and go back to fundamentals. Just say, score the try. Style points don't get you. Don't translate to the scoreboard. No, they do not. No, they do not. You just want to get the five there, kids. I promise. Anyway, Italy get nilled 0-17 to Scotland. Another wooden spoon for Italy, it looks like this year, unfortunately. Yeah, that's unfortunate. I was rooting for him.
00:11:18
Speaker
Yeah, I was taking home. I was too. Hopefully they can play then the next match. Yeah, I hope so. Geez Yeah, a couple weeks. We'll see. We'll see what plays out here. Hopefully things settle down get a little better over there anyway Let's go over to the principality Wales and France Well, it was us. It was a scorcher. It was a good game It was everything you could want from this match. Yeah, except Matt Carley. Oh
00:11:42
Speaker
Well, that. And I guess if you're Welsh, maybe you'd want something different. But aside from those two things, the refereeing is just shit. You know, and even in the last match, Italy, Scotland, I thought Ben O'Keefe made a couple of really head scratching decisions. And I like Ben O'Keefe. Let me just start by saying that.
00:12:02
Speaker
The other two we are freeze I could gear that were happened to appear in the Six Nations this weekend I could give up fuck about I don't care for Yoko Piper I think he's super overblown and Matt Carly belongs nowhere near an international test match get him the fuck away. Yeah That was some
00:12:19
Speaker
Like we had and I'm going to cross over things but like you look at just the the From the refereeing standpoint the the inconsistencies from from ref to ref match to match things that are there was a double dump rock in super rugby that I think it was the uh, um in in the world cup was it was a red card or at least some somewhere recently in international rugby was was a straight red card, right? Yeah, and
00:12:46
Speaker
And they watched that and they're like, penalty only. He didn't mean to do it. Or I don't remember exactly what the outcome was. It wasn't a straight red, should have been. The clear outs in Ireland, England, we'll get to. Just allowing Dan Bigger to do what he did this match.
00:13:06
Speaker
Unbelievable, like yeah, he wasn't having the best match but To show him up like that repeatedly by flapping his arms and and screaming at him from a distance Quite the distance sometimes bigger. He should have he should have been carded. That was just total Assholery, but he's a little easy classier person than that. Yeah, that wasn't I was like, who the hell put this who's wearing Dan Biggers? That's not the Dan bigger that I know and maybe I don't know him that well I don't know but I haven't seen him
Wales vs France: Health Concerns and Performance
00:13:34
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do that. I
00:13:34
Speaker
I think in terms of referring this game I think Welsh fans will feel a little grieved that Willems stayed on the field for 10 minutes and didn't give away a penalty try I thought surefire penalty try and no question my mind the fact that there wasn't even a penalty questioned and
00:13:51
Speaker
Yeah. No, nothing clear and obvious. I was like, oh, nothing clear and obvious. How interesting. Yeah. Can I please understand your explanation? Because I don't think they really explained it that well. And and if even if you don't give like, well, either of the yellow, like the Aldrich yellow could could have been more the the I don't care. I can't pronounce the name how us.
00:14:13
Speaker
Oh, yeah, the the prop the prop that that should have been a penalty trial Like there should have been more than just what was given on those especially, you know, there were that many Penalties that that france were given away. Yeah, that's my that's my number one issue with matt carla. He does not control a match very well He does not at all and that and then you get the the chirpy-ness from
00:14:33
Speaker
You get the penalties that should have been penalties and the penalties that should have been more. So that's my biggest issue with him. So that's one thing. Anyway, let's go to the game. Two issues that go beyond this game, though, with the players and the teams, both from Wales, honestly, on this one. Josh Adams was clearly hurt and hurting, trying to battle through it, but he wasn't.
00:15:01
Speaker
I don't did they have anybody left? I think I don't actually got him off I think they did they did eventually get him off, but they did everything they could they strapped him up. They gave him the basically Not quite a hardcast, but yeah, they take it really Yeah And so I think his Six Nations is over from what I hear and maybe even a season from there from the rumor yuck But more importantly George North
00:15:28
Speaker
what that was not that hard to hit no and he was asleep he was out he was out why they were he did not come back which was good i was like he needs to go for an hia and he's done because he lost consciousness and like take care of him but what what do you do about that like i i can he continue playing
00:15:46
Speaker
Um, I think that's something that he needs to start consulting doctors with, um, on a personal level. I'm not sure as much as I hate to say this, I'm not sure he's going to get that from either Wales or his club team. So, but if I'm Wales, like for his own health, but also for the team, they got to start thinking about themselves.
00:16:06
Speaker
If he's going to take and again, it's not a comment on his toughness anything like that. This is something There's nothing you can do about it. You know, you the concussions are they they build on each other And he's had enough now Can they risk putting him out there? Having him take a knock and having to come off and having to use a sub just they're gonna have one sub dedicated Oh if george north gets knocked the fuck out, right?
00:16:33
Speaker
No, nobody wants that. So at some point the decision is going to be made for him. If I'm a Welsh coach, I'm not selecting him for him and for me. It's bad for everyone all around.
00:16:51
Speaker
Let's go with some good stuff. Obviously French are still the French. Their defense showed some incredible toughness, especially towards the end of the, I believe it was the end of the first half, keeping Wales out and not letting them get through. Great stuff from that Sean Edwards just again. His price just went up once more.
00:17:15
Speaker
And this one meant a little bit to him. He wanted to give back. He wanted to get against his old team, obviously. So that was a great set of defense. Roman Intimac. What class? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know how you pick a better 9 and 10 right now, especially in this competition. In the world, it'd be a challenge only because the other teams haven't played a whole lot yet. But yeah, right now, they are definitely the 4-9-10 international play.
00:17:43
Speaker
Well, yeah, I mean because Nobody from it, you know, the English scrumhaves aren't that good Davies and What was it bigger and Thomas Williams Tom? I like Thomas. I like Thomas Williams. He's still missing a little bit But he's that do Paul like a couple of the the runs were but that Williams has had do Paul would have finished in the tri-zone Yeah, they're just individually there. They're fantastic players and together and
00:18:10
Speaker
Yeah, they've made some things happen. Bhutye playing out of, joining on the spot for the first try, obviously. But yeah, he's making a lot of people forget who Thomas Ramos is, and that's something to be said right there. So just keep that in mind. I will say both these next few matches, this one and the one we'll talk about in a bit, neither team seemed to be taking advantage of the fact that there was a center on the wing.
00:18:34
Speaker
Now I rewind to England France last year when one Gail Fick who played on the wing England realized it and exploited it like hell and they did a really good job of it Johnny may end up with a hat trick if I'm not mistaken So I was a little bit disappointed I couldn't tell if they were initially trying to take advantage of it in that same fashion or if they had no interest I don't think they could because I mean you look at I mean you look at the Welsh two Welsh wings
00:18:57
Speaker
Josh Adams is hurt. I think Josh Adams are hurt coming into the game. I think he's been he was he he got hurt pretty bad in the last match. Right? Yeah. I think this I think this yeah, his performance this time was was he was on one wheel even before he aggravated it. Chance of it.
00:19:13
Speaker
And then the aforementioned George North went out. So how, you know, that Gail Ficu got lucky that they didn't have anybody left really. So that worked out well for them, for Ficu anyway. He didn't get exploited. But yeah, that was definitely a question mark that got answered. I saw, I think it was Squidge tweeted out that world rugby will be in deep, deep trouble if Teddy Tama ever decides he wants to try.
00:19:42
Speaker
I know he he is a ghost The last two games he's played for France, but there's been times where you're like, oh shit, Toma Toma has it He's gonna scorch these people. He's like No He takes bad angles he runs Lines that take him towards touch and he gets shepherded into touch Like yeah, if he actually decided and I think he's a little contact averse
00:20:09
Speaker
Yeah, which is what results in that but if he ever decide because ollie if he could just take a A wrap tackle like an arm, you know Take the arms and just break that break the wrap tackle. Yep, he's fine but he's a little scared of getting into contact it seems and we'll just kind of Head into touch to avoid it. Yep. Yep So the I mean the french played amazingly they held out very well. Um, I want to
00:20:34
Speaker
point out won Will Rowlands for getting his first Welsh cap. I love Will Rowlands since he came out of the scene last year. I'm really glad that he got himself into international play. That's, that's a place he definitely belongs, especially the gigantic human that he is. So good on him. Paul Valencia. Yeah, he's a monster too. Good God.
00:20:53
Speaker
We gotta mention him that was oh, yeah, he played he played amazingly bull. I think he carried three Welsh backs into the That's not gonna work no. Nope. Nope. Nope Yeah, he's quite the monster big boy but yeah the Welsh go down 23 27 to the French
00:21:15
Speaker
french still alive for the grand slam they got a couple more roadblocks here coming up they gotta take care of ireland at the end of the competition um and then i think they got scotland up at murray field next which won't it sounds like it won't be much but man scotland might be the new french where they get one good performance and all of a sudden you go where the hell's this been
00:21:36
Speaker
So we'll see. Um, remains to be seen. Yeah. Anyway, I'm skeptical of that, but you never know. It's not
Ireland's Mistakes Against England
00:21:42
Speaker
outside the hood. It is not. Not with the likes of hog. Um, all right. Let's go over to Twickenham on Sunday, England, 24 Island 12. Um, I will say that.
00:21:52
Speaker
I was kind of hoping the Irish would smash, but the Irish also didn't show up. No, I don't know where. Somewhere, somewhere out there, there's a search party still looking for this Irish team, apart from 10 to 10 minute chunks. I think they're still searching for the ball that Ford dotted down in the try line. What?
00:22:13
Speaker
terrible, terrible, unforgivable mistakes by Stockdale and Sexton. What in the world? Did nobody tell the man on? Did nobody tell them that they have pressure? Gather the ball and ground it. You have a 22 meter dropout. You've got guns. Just fall on it. Stop screwing around. Yeah, why Sexton's batting it around and it's like, just get it in your hands and fall down. I think Sexton wanted to take it and try and kick it out. Just dot it down and take the 22 hammerhead.
00:22:41
Speaker
I was listening to the Pod Pod Pod on the way over here, and they were talking about how just, oh, Ireland didn't play that well, but England were dominant. I'm like, no, no, no. England weren't dominant. They weren't dominant. They were physically dominant at the best.
00:22:58
Speaker
Ireland's just absolute knobbery and mistakes are what cost them. There was just in their hands the whole time. It was a 14-0 at half, and both of the tries by England were off of shit kicks that went to nowhere. England was doing a lot of kick passing.
00:23:17
Speaker
That they shouldn't have but the two tries were off of that. So it's like, well, what are you going to do? Like, right? This is, it was obviously in the game plan. Hell, even cruiser was kicking the ball. That's cruise missile. That's cruise missile doing that. Oh God. Why are you doing that cruiser?
00:23:35
Speaker
Oh, yeah, that was just complete morons. I don't I don't have another word for it. Good God. Yeah Yeah, and you brought up the point too and you might have come on a little bit sooner I don't know who he comes on for because Murray did play terribly his service was fine. He wasn't doing anything special But his boot wasn't wasn't quite there did it or that that match got one charge down that was bad Yeah, and but
00:23:58
Speaker
I think it wasn't so much that, you know, oh, Murray's got to come out more so than they need a spark. They need someone to come on and bring some energy. And you look down the up and down that bench and it's a lot of guys who are.
00:24:10
Speaker
Yeah, the only one solid girls. Yeah, Earls and him are probably the ones that excite me the most. Yeah, that's it. And maybe that's what maybe they and if they're not going to bring on Cooney early, then they should have brought on Earls early for for Conway. Because as you said, who is it? Jonathan Joseph on the center out there on the wing and Conway is not really an attacking win.
00:24:32
Speaker
I saw a lot of people say that John Joseph had a stormer. I don't know if he had a stormer. I think he had a solid match considering he was a center on the wing. Had a couple of good runs. And if that makes a stormer, then I'd like to have a conversation with these people because I don't think that defines as a stormer. No, he was mostly uncontested for the match and didn't do, he didn't put one down. I mean, look, if he had scored a try or two, then yes, that's a stormer of a match. Instead,
00:25:02
Speaker
Yeah, nobody really challenged it. Yeah on a wing especially so is the uh Is that a left wing there? Um, I mean defensive wing center you could do worse. Um, that's where fecal was this weekend as well, right? Well, no joseph was attacking wing was he yeah, he was he's 11 Oh, shit. May was the was the 14. I know my left and right. I swear to god So that's what like yeah, but that's that's what could you know, you put him on conway Yeah, conway should have at least done a good job bottling him up and he did reasonably well, but right
00:25:30
Speaker
Still, Conway's got to be the one who's just joking him out of his jock and leaving him in the dust, and that wasn't happening. I think people that are Eddie Jones fans will call this a win and they're going to have no qualms about it. I think people that still want to question Eddie Jones, like the likes of you and I,
00:25:51
Speaker
still need to see more, and I don't know who the second chair on the broadcast was off the top of my head, but he said, there's still no plan B for England. When they're playing A goes awry, they don't have a plan B, and that's a little bit of arrogance, a little bit of stubbornness, a little bit of stupidity rolled into one. Why did Ewells come on at eight?
00:26:09
Speaker
What? I don't understand any of the decisions. Yeah, I don't like it. It worked out and it really that's kind of what pisses me off is it only worked out because Ireland just completely shit the bed. They did. They did. I mean, even I mentioned him when we were talking earlier, well, you me, but James Ryan, just awful. Like if you you know, we talked about, you know, kids watching. If you're a kid out there or you have kids or you coach kids,
00:26:40
Speaker
I love James Ryan this match points them and say do not play like this This was don't be an asshole like that He should be cited. I think he should be suspended a match at least he's not gonna I promise but That there was there was just some over-the-top Clear outs with no arms. No rap straight to the head that should be yellows all day that he got away with that
00:27:08
Speaker
Didn't like and it just built off of that and pipe that's where piper lost control of the match because yeah Because he let that go from from ireland and then you saw a toji kind of john back. You saw what? uh, uh faz did on the deck with yeah, you're you're not gonna go away with that in my book ever, right? Which when when farrell started when he first grabbed uh standard's leg He was fine. That was in the rock but as soon as but and and I didn't like that that standard didn't really come out of the ruck before he started striking it
00:27:37
Speaker
at Farrell, he just kind of went right from there. He's like, oh, you're on my leg. Fuck you. I'm going to start hitting you. So I thought they both should have been sent off just to cool everybody down. But yeah, Piper is Piper. Piper doesn't control things very well or at all. No. So he had something more important to do later in the day. And this is just in the way. Oh, that's a time failure.
00:27:58
Speaker
Yeah, sorry. South Africans don't produce the best referees, unfortunately. Craig Jubeir comes to mind. Exactly, exactly. Yeah, I mean, we've all been in standard shoes. You have that dickhead that's holding on to you and you just want him off of you.
00:28:17
Speaker
and you're going to do anything in your power. Sometimes you see the red mist and you make a mistake. Yeah. Somebody compared it to the policy he was sending off last year for the US, which I thought was incorrect. No. No. Because he stomped on the guy's head or something like that. Yeah, that's a big difference in my heart. That's a big difference. And what pissed me off about Standard was he didn't try to, at first, he didn't try to move his leg. He just started wailing away. He did start to walk with him. No. Then he did. Then he's like, well, that's what he should have done to start with. Like, hey, Dick.
00:28:46
Speaker
And I think Farah would have let him go if he had done that. But because he just went right to the hands, I think Farah was like, well, fuck you. I'm not letting you go. It's going to be like that. It's going to be like this. This is what we're going to do. All right. You set the rules here. Right. Yeah. And then I thought.
00:29:01
Speaker
LS Ganesh was a little bit too fired up for his own good. Well, it was that kind of game. Didn't. Yeah. But coming on, man, you've got to be able to just keep the calm, keep the calm coming off the bench and not just like pick up where the red mist is. You know, you've got to be a little bit better because at least two or three times he was in somebody's face post scrum. It's like, that's probably not your best decision because that's how you get a penalty reverse. Yeah, I think he was trying to wind up Ryan to get him to swing at him. Yeah.
00:29:27
Speaker
I mean, and I can understand Joe taking a page out of Joe Maro's book. Yeah. But there's a point where it actually does the exact opposite and gets you paying. And that's why that's when a toji stepped in and was like, no, no, we're gonna be over here now. You're done. You're done. Let's go. Let's go, buddy. Somebody else is tuning out when Maro steps in to play Peacemaker. Something's going wrong. Yeah. Maro prides himself on being a complete pain in the ass too.
00:29:54
Speaker
So that does say a whole lot. Exactly. England do win. Their slim hopes of keeping this championship alive are there. 24-12 over Ireland, no bonus point, which was disappointing for them. They didn't quite go for that. Well, they're lucky to get out of there with a win. I think so too. They have
00:30:14
Speaker
They have whales at Twickenham, I believe. No, I just clicked out of it. I think that'll be the next
Impact of Health Concerns on Italian Rugby
00:30:20
Speaker
match. So that shall be interesting. Whales are going to come off a match that they feel pretty aggrieved about. And England probably can count themselves a little bit lucky. So we'll see how that one goes. Yeah, so Ireland host Italy.
00:30:32
Speaker
England hosts Wales, Scotland hosts France. Hopefully we get Ireland hosting Italy. Italy, by the way, I texted you, but Italy have canceled everything except every rugby except for their men's international side.
00:30:47
Speaker
Well, right now, because they're due to be away at least, which is a good thing. Right. And I guess the women were going to be hosting that. I think so. I think so. That would have been. Which would be the only explanation that I could tell. Yeah, I think so. That wouldn't have been dead. No, but this is a. Some serious shit out there. Yeah.
00:31:06
Speaker
Yeah. Keep it. I'll put hope everybody's all right. Everybody keep keep watching. Yeah. Keep you aware that away from America. I mean, good year. Hopefully. But we'll see about that one. All right. Let's go to prom. We got game week eleven and so.
00:31:25
Speaker
Let's start on Saturday. Yeah. Can we just rip off the Band-Aid? All right. So one, sale beat Lester 36 to three. I did not watch anything. Me neither. From when I understand sale, we're completely dominant. Yeah. Again, another dominant performance. Was in their first home match since Da Young's been fired.
00:31:43
Speaker
Old friend Saracens walking to town and they put a number on him big time Zach Kibery he played out of his brain Jack Willis played out of his skull Jacob Umaga was everywhere as well as you know, basically most most players basically, yeah You were wearing black and gold you were doing all right. Yeah Hats off to Ali cross tail for getting himself over and his first start for the Saracens It's the one upside that we can take from that probably so good good on him Roddy Sagan was dropped late and
00:32:13
Speaker
There were a lot of dropped leads. Yep Not only was like the the lineups all Fucked up, but the the dropping label probably drops as well No, thank you. No, not helpful at all. Um So yeah, so it was hey hats off to was they they showed up and they really put one down Um, lemme stop walking even looked like he was in the mood, which hasn't been the case for a while. So Uh good. Yeah, good on the wasp for getting themselves up for that one It will be a one-off or will they carry it over? I don't know
00:32:43
Speaker
Saturday. Did you watch either game? Did you watch both games? I watched. Well, let me make sure I'm getting them right. I ended up watching
00:32:54
Speaker
I watched London Irish Gloucester. As did I. I think that was it. Yeah. So, one man to talk about. Ollie Hassell Comics. And what a bum. What a bum. That was the best. That was the best. Try the week or I quit. Try the week or I quit.
00:33:13
Speaker
And I sent you his tweet, but but Ollie Hasland Collins tweeted I could some newspaper and he goes BBC yeah Put that the picture of him bum scoring Are you doing me dirty? Yeah, I mean I think you had him on I don't think you
00:33:37
Speaker
Oh, that was great. Yeah, he did it all. He intercepted. He finished. He did a lot of really good things for this team. Obviously, there was a lot more to talk about. Blair Cowan played very well. He was getting on. He was getting number one. All right, let's talk about this guy, Luke Pierce.
00:33:54
Speaker
Why the fuck was he doing this match and not one of the other matches in Six Nations? Wasted him his time. Who's daughter did he fuck? What the fuck? Come on, man. Sorry, I know. It might be poor taste in jokes. But point being, who'd he piss off? I want to know, why isn't he doing a Six Nations match? He's absolutely one of the best in the world.
00:34:19
Speaker
He doesn't have pictures of the right people, I guess. I don't know. Fucking I guess not. I mean, obviously, Piper does. Yeah, he he doesn't belong anywhere near a test match anytime soon. And neither does Carly. O'Keefe bottled it. He's a better referee than that. So I've seen him do better. The other two I have not seen do any better. So.
Club Rugby Highlights and Team Performances
00:34:35
Speaker
They don't get it. They don't get the pass that Ben O'Keefe does anyway to this match When an Irish obviously are a team inspired. Yeah, I mean and Gloucester played very well Obviously Cipriani had a heavy heart this week and played very inspirationally They did pull him probably a little bit early for my taste. I think he was struggling at that So I think it was a little bit of a don't let him get too down on himself and carry over and
00:35:00
Speaker
And if I'm, so also, if I'm, and just to name a name and a team, if I'm Tom O'Flaherty and I see Hassel, Ollie Hassel Collins scoring those four tries on the way he scored them, I'm like looking around like, what the fuck am I doing here?
00:35:17
Speaker
Because if you throw at least two of his tries, maybe three, I think he had two longer runs. But anyway, at least two of Hassell Collins tries were on the goal line. Just had to finish where they're just like, all he had to do was beat one person and he's in. And instead of, you know, trying to smash it over the line like Exeter does.
00:35:35
Speaker
You know right the iris did a great job of sucking in the defense sucking the defense and then passing it passing the ball out wide That's amazing thought right and he was he was money from there and and that's you know, that's To me that's such a better example of how you want to play rugby then than just trying to smash it over the line so
00:35:54
Speaker
You know Hassel Collins had a great day, but you know aside He did have those too long ass tries that were amazing. So i'm not i'm not trying to take anything away from him It's just that there's other wings that have to be looking at that being like let me do that. Can I do that? Please I can do that. I like that Can I do that, please? I will moon everybody. I don't care. I will score the try
00:36:15
Speaker
Um, you know, in, in all the excitement, the, the league's leading tricycle or Lewis reexamine it, um, we kind of forgot about a guy named Olly Thorley. And he, he, he showed up this weekend and played very, very well. Um, obviously got himself tiptoeing down the, the touch line to get over, uh,
00:36:33
Speaker
Good footwork by the young guy. This Gloucester team still, they showed a little bit better of what I've been waiting for them. They haven't been as good as I expected them. This was much better from them, especially without either Willie Hines or Callen Braley or Joe Simpson. They had Chapman playing, young kid. Or for the most part, Ben Morgan. He didn't come on until 77 minutes. Right. So yeah, there's a lot to be liked about the way they played this match. I know they lost. They get four, they get three this match.
00:37:03
Speaker
But they either way they they're scoring tries again, which is good, you know knocking off the penalty shit So they they have a lot to hang their hat on from this match. So good on them London Irish 24 gloss or 20 I think the relief of not feeling like they're gonna get relegated has probably taken a good thing to London Irish So good for them. The other match was bath 19 Quinn's 12. What and the holy shit's going on with Quinn's I have no idea that's two in a row for them going down yikes especially and that was after the talking they gave this Harrison so
00:37:33
Speaker
Paul Gustard, wake up, dude. Something's going on over there. You go on a Stuart Hooper, they've won three in a row over there, I think. So, good on the, good on the Batman for doing that. Let's do a Sunday. Which one do you want to talk about?
00:37:45
Speaker
Well, let's talk about at least the first half of Exeter North End. At least the first couple of minutes of it, whatever. I mean, well, not even the first half. Shit. It was like, what, three nothing 20 minutes in. So it wasn't there. It was the second quarter of that first half there. That's kind of when it started to fall apart. That's when the wheels came off. Yeah. Right. Tom Collins getting a stupid yellow. Silly yellow.
00:38:10
Speaker
Shit, yeah, it was only yeah 22 nothing like yeah 22 nothing at half. So really was still like Technically a game. It was there to at least make it a game not for that much longer. Nope, and they I guess they're dragged by the scruff of the neck and did like oh Anderson played amazingly for him That's a no he played it fucking. I mean not even just for him. He played amazing for anyone, right? But no like yeah, I was saying good for yeah, Sam Simmons is still angry apparently a little bit
00:38:41
Speaker
Uh, I have to say, um, to, this is my boy, Chris Boyd. Um, what in the fuck are you doing sitting close? Reinach on the bench when you are down so much. Yeah, that didn't make sense. Get him off his ass and get him on the field. You know, he can make a difference. Um, James Grayson was probably found out a little bit in this match. I don't think he played it that well. Um, so I think there's still some parts of his games that need to be fixed. Yeah. Well, that's what I mean. That was the thing that came out in this match. Yeah. That's why they have Dan bigger. Right. Um,
00:39:12
Speaker
Yeah, I thought Tom Wood played exceptionally well. He does do that. He does do that from time to time. Which is amazing to say about the loose forward and a loss like that, but I thought he played very well. Yeah, he's ever so steady for that team. Ever so steady for that team.
00:39:29
Speaker
Exeter 57, Northampton 7, this is probably one that Northampton will put in the trash bin and not ever think about it again. Yeah, let's not, let's never talk about that again. And O'Flaherty did play well. That's why I'm saying, like, he shows that he can do a lot of the stuff in states. I agree. They just don't get him the ball enough.
00:39:46
Speaker
Yep. You said you did watch a little bit of the Bristol Worcester match. Yes. This was a lot of open play and Bristol very much in control. They just couldn't finish a lot. So it was really a lot of play down in Worcester's end.
00:40:03
Speaker
And Wooster weren't that terribly disciplined, but they still got up to tie it up with 13 minutes left. And that was, Dupree got a yellow, and Wooster ended up winning the yellow card 3-0 the yellow card time with a late PK.
00:40:24
Speaker
Ultimately, the Bristol finally worked themselves over, really not over, but enough to take the win. Yep. Got over the line eventually.
00:40:33
Speaker
Yeah, well, no, they did a pique later. So it was 1310 Excited that the score doesn't do the game justice. It was actually a very exciting match but Shit pia tau was electric. He didn't get over but tends to be but he was finding space and and making some some
00:40:54
Speaker
outstanding runs and Doyle was not paying attention to the breakdown. There's a lot of shit going on in the breakdown that nobody was paying attention to this weekend and Doyle was one of the people with that problem. Yeah, I just didn't know what he was looking at and there were a couple times where it's like
00:41:13
Speaker
You can't do that, but uh, whatever play play play apparently Yeah, sorry JP, uh bristles 13 waster 10, uh bristles are seem to be riding the ship at the very least Yeah, I mean they they needed to win that at home against wuster and they did so Yep, do all
Southern Hemisphere Rugby Successes
00:41:31
Speaker
right. You gotta do what you need to do. Yep. All right. Let's go to super rugby. Um match that stands out for you
00:41:37
Speaker
I only was able to watch two of them. Which one did you get? Crusaders, Highlanders. That was a good one. Yeah, not Hurricanes, Highlanders. Which was pretty good. Aaron Smith kind of pissed me off. They're down 26-8. And he gets a break with a 2-1-1. Yes, it was a lock that was with him. But nobody's stopping that lock. And instead of making the pass after he's pinned the fullback, he tries to chip it past the fullback and score on his own.
00:42:07
Speaker
And not the option did not work out well. No, um, they ended up scoring again anyway, but It just wasn't enough. I bet a little bit late at that point Yeah, I mean at that point I mean the Crusaders are rolling I mean they had tries from the guys who you if they're you know, if you have Taylor bridge and Christie scoring tries You're doing well, they're probably gonna win that match. Yeah, things are going right. I mean It has to be said
00:42:31
Speaker
Crusaders just a factory rinse and repeat colin grace tom christy tom sanders just they're missing half their back row from last year And no big deal. They just rinse and repeat and pump out new ones and they're just as good It's crazy Uh has to be has to be noted. So, uh, I give credit to their system and their academy Yeah, this one was the one with the where the the dump tackle and uh dumps clear out in the rock Um that it did go to the highlanders did get a yellow, but it really should have been a red. Yeah
00:43:00
Speaker
Um, yeah, well got a little lucky probably. Yeah, and well, it's also that new zealand doesn't seem to really police that too much as far as like whatever happens in the breakdown they're okay with so You know the standard coming in from the side that's allowed there. Yeah, um, this was This was paul. Williams. I think he's not that good of a ref. So yeah, it wasn't it wasn't well done, but right
00:43:23
Speaker
Uh, I mean two guys for the hounders seem to know where the trial line is. Michael Collins, Jonah and Ricky. And thank you Michael Collins. I picked him up in the MIFR D-League. I think you got me a win. Anyway. At least one of us did well. Big one for, uh, for the, uh, the Crusaders. They seem to have shaken off that loss against the Chiefs.
00:43:43
Speaker
What was the other, assuming the other one you watched was the Chiefs? Well, I watched the half. I went to the gym Saturday morning. I was like, all right, it's going to be a long day. I got to get prepared so I can sit on the couch. And yes, I watched, I got through the first half and maybe a little bit extra while I was puffing away on the elliptical.
00:44:08
Speaker
I was working harder than the chiefs were It was it was a lot of a lot of their mistakes and issues from last year rear in their heads, which which happens Yeah, gatlin's there but but he's on his first year. Oh, you're only gonna be able to fix so much right and and eventually guys are gonna Lapse into the behavior that they had before you got there And this was that match for the chiefs their defense kind of was a sieve their attack never got
00:44:33
Speaker
Really going until the second half. Yeah, it was too late by that point I mean if it was something where it was like a 20-point game I would have been like yeah, I'll go home and watch the second half of that I was at the gym like nope This is not this is not gonna turn out well I I get the I Might not know the the last chapter, but I know the story. I know the idea here We got this covered. Yeah, uh-huh
00:45:01
Speaker
And the Brumbies played exceptionally well. This is not to take away from them. They did very, when they needed to, you know, when they had no space, they were exceptionally strong in contact. And when they had a lot of space, they were very good with the ball to get it there and to hit gaps. So much credit to the Brumbies. They played a very solid game and the Chiefs did not, and the final score reflects that.
00:45:26
Speaker
Yeah, first one for the Brumbies in New Zealand in a long time at least four or five years I think so been a while so good you're on them. You're on them They they definitely step up this this looks like a better team. I will say still money kata seems like he's starting to find it He's come over from League and it's it can take you a little bit to adapt and some players can some League players can't I think he's starting to figure it out. So good on him. He got over the line I think that was his first one this year
00:45:51
Speaker
So that was really good know a little SEO bouncing back from a ship performance against the islanders to be honest Let's be real about that. Yeah, you did. Okay. Yeah, you play pretty well Yeah, I know it's still hitting some balls. Yes kicks you gotta give him that for sure Yeah, I did watch one more one of the game rebels the sharks
00:46:10
Speaker
Sharks took advantage of the Rebels pretty leaky defense. Mack McPimpy did your, did a similar to your Solomon Alamalo and he was over the line and handed it off to Carmen Bosch to finish. That would have been his hat trick. Instead he gave away a hat trick try. So it was good on him. I don't like
00:46:36
Speaker
I've found another referee that I don't really care for I see I see what's going on here. I don't have an answer for you on that one man
00:46:51
Speaker
Oh, I knew it. I've offended them in some way. They're following you around. They're following you around. Yeah, there was a lot of... There were a couple yellow cards this match for the sharks and they were still able to overcome it. So it was... And I think there was a double dump in this one as well. Yellow card was the only result. It was not as egregious as I'd seen others. I'm pretty sure he came right down on his side slash shoulder. So it wasn't nearly that close.
00:47:18
Speaker
Other scores, Rebels 24, Sharks 36, obviously we were just talking about that. Reds tonked the sun low, 64-5 at home. Stormers stay unbeaten, 17-7. They didn't lose last week, did they? No, they don't. Anyway, they still seem to be going strong, just the same. And then Bulls just don't know how to get out of their own way, 21-23 over the Blues.
00:47:40
Speaker
Stormers are undefeated, by the way. Okay. So they are undefeated. Gotcha. Okay. Let's go to, um, that thing called start set that we like to do here. We do like to do that, don't we? Yeah, we do. Um, I believe I'm up first. I believe so. Dilly deli time. Pull my finger on my fucking ass over here. There it is. Here we go.
Fantasy Rugby Player Recommendations
00:48:04
Speaker
At least it's your finger this time.
00:48:06
Speaker
I can never put my finger in your bum. All right, Gloucester and Sail. Gloucester are a good team. They're playing good offense, bad news. Sail are also the best team against fantasy. Are they? Yikes. I did not know that. Both. Really? Both FRD and TRM. They are? Wow. It's a thing. It's a thing. No, it's real.
00:48:30
Speaker
It's a thing man. It's not something I expected this year, but it's a thing they they don't let up a lot of points on defense Yeah, they do not on a fancy but fancy wise anyway There are some guys that you have a heart. They're gonna have a hard time sitting and I don't have a problem with you starting them Marais Ackerman assuming a raise not broken Ludlow Tom Marshall resam it if he's available Ollie thoroughly and both the centers Atkinson and Chris Harris and
00:48:56
Speaker
I got to wonder if free salmon is going to be available because Wales might be like, you're wrapping him in bubble wrap for now because we're going to need him next week. Yeah. Starts only in TRM are Piledry and Mostert. And then Stits are definitely the cluster front row, Supriani and Ruan Akerman. Sail, you can go ahead and play any way that's got the last name, Dupria. John Ross is also in that group.
00:49:18
Speaker
Byron McGuigan in both this week is okay. Cell front row is good. Chris Ashton and RJ VRR starts in just FRD. Oh, I wouldn't touch. Well, I wouldn't touch our JDR, but yeah FRD only
00:49:34
Speaker
Okay, number yeah, I would try to find someone else I mean I picked up here tansep teammate. You didn't do too bad. Yeah. Yeah, but France gentlemen Rensberg has been oh, he hasn't been great. No, I agree But it's hard to sit him at this point. You probably burned. Oh, yeah, you have five pick, right? Oh sucker
00:49:55
Speaker
I know a few of those guys uh quinn's versus quinn's versus exit er This is odd because both these teams are well the exit or at least top of the table But they're giving up a decent amount of fantasy points and quinn's are also giving up a lot of fantasy points This could be you know, well
00:50:11
Speaker
Outside of Exeter's back line, this could be a big fantasy day basically across the board. Quins, because you got to figure the Exeter are going to give a lot to their forwards, which means that the Quins' forwards are going to be making a lot of tackles for the Quins. You want to start Stephen Lewis, Glenn Young, James Chisholm, Alex Dombrandt.
00:50:31
Speaker
Danny care Marcus Smith it between a and policy K all should be very busy Paulie for FRD only Caden Murley Sits for the Quinn's the Quinn's front row. They're gonna get rocked with the guys that they're missing unfortunately Aaron Morris and Chris Robshaw because he just doesn't score fantasy points and For Exeter
00:50:54
Speaker
Start their entire pack their front row in FRD Don't start Dave viewers get to him later For FRD only you want to start Nick white. He's not exactly a Sit in TRM, but I'm guessing you probably have better options available I don't know how many people are gonna own Nick white given the other options Chris cook who's probably a better option than that and he's way cheaper
00:51:16
Speaker
Yeah. And Tom O'Flaherty is a guy you want to start an FRD because you never know, he could just go off. I'm not sure he's worth, I have him in TRM and he performed very well, but it's just the consistency there. For Exer, you want to sit Dave viewers, Ian Whitten and Ollie Woodburn.
00:51:33
Speaker
Yeah. Just don't produce. Yep. That just happens. All right. Northampton against the Saracens. Well, most of the guys that are worth a damn for Saracens are gone. Uh, Northampton have a plethora of guys that you can probably start depending on if they're available or not. Um, guys that you probably are going to have a hard time sitting are Tiamana Harrison, Cobus Ronak to Kelly and Aravaro, even Tom Wood, uh, James Grayson or Dan Bigger, if Dan Bigger is available. Um, Hutch, if he's released by Scotland,
00:52:01
Speaker
Lewis Ludlum assuming he's ready to go. I don't think England used in this past weekend So he played and then Matt Proctor's FRD only I know he's an outside back But he's not scoring terribly especially if you're in a pinch because there's a lot of people away remember so that'll happen
00:52:16
Speaker
So, Saracens, Nikasique and Saracens front row continue to be absolute starts. You can't get away from him. Tom Wollstonekroff is a start if he's starting. Roddy is a start as long as he's healthy. And then- I assume he doesn't drop late. Right. It's like some people pick him up specifically for this. Sam, where were you on that, man? We needed you on that. We needed you so badly on that. I had him in my lineup for God's sake. Yeah. And I got replaced by Tom Collins. Oh. Yeah. That's what happened in my TRM lineup. Yeah.
00:52:45
Speaker
Well, that's what happened to me with, uh, with Sagan. I had him and, and last minute he's out and Ali cross tails in now he gets over. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Um, and so for continuing on with this Harrison's, um, Calum Clark's actually an okay start in TRM, especially this week. Um, and then the two wings, Lewington and Maitland are FR D starts only onto Lester versus Worcester. Um,
00:53:15
Speaker
It's going to be slim pickings for Lester. Start their locks, because they've actually been scoring really well. So whoever is starting a lock for Lester, go ahead and play them. And Jordan Taufua. I like him. For FRD only, start Vianu and Eastmond. I wouldn't touch either of them, really, in TRM. TRM, nope. And the Sitz are the Lester front row, Noel Reed, Jordan Olofefella, and Jonah Holmes. For Wooster, it's going to be a lot.
00:53:43
Speaker
So just say so for a start there there are front row and FRD Everywhere start one through ten Basically, yeah, if you have a Yep and and for for shits and giggles throw a Nick David in there, too
00:54:00
Speaker
So basically 1 through 11. Start them. For FRD only, I would say the Kitcheners, either one of them, although I'm guessing Andrew Kitchener might be a little bit mad that he came on only to get yellow-carded off immediately last week. So he might be a little bit more disciplined, and I don't know if he'll produce any more. But either way, in FRD only, I would take a flyer on him if you're stuck at lock. Also, Arlie Lawrence and Ashley Beck,
00:54:30
Speaker
Nice. I do not have any sits for Worcester. Well, I think yeah, there's a two um Leaky defense leaky fantasy defenses. So that I think that my starts and sits reflect that except for Lester's just not that good. Yeah
00:54:45
Speaker
Alright, London Irish against the Wasps. Actually, the Wasps are fairly strong defense in fantasy wise, but London Irish seem to be playing out of their skin, so it's going to be tough to sit some guys. Blair Cowan, Ollie Hoskins, still one of the top scoring props in the comp, so you're going to not sit him. Albert Tuissi in both comps.
00:55:04
Speaker
and the uncitable ollie hassel commons you cannot get away from him david pericki if he's healthy and he's starting play him ruin botha and coleman are both boards starts in trm frd probably not not terrible idea uh i got some inkling about wasaki naholo if he plays not to play him in frd i don't know where it is he does score right there but just something in my brain says don't play him there i don't know what to tell you that's instinct that's all it is
00:55:28
Speaker
For the wass, again, there's a few guys that you just can't get away from. Dan Robson, Jack Willis, Zach Kiberige, and Nizem Kar. You're going to play them in both formats. Will Rollins and Thomas Jones are worth rolling out there as well. And then FRD only guys. He's young. Is he injured?
00:55:43
Speaker
I don't know. That was the, I assume that was the reason for the late drop. Where's he out? Cause Dyer's out. Oh God, poor guy. I know. I think, I think the drop was, was because of injury, but I don't think it's that big of an injury. They just didn't want to risk him. Right. Um, FRD only guys for wasps are the likes of Copper, Spekitoa, Umaga, and Manazzi if he's available from Italy.
00:56:07
Speaker
And last but not least, Beth versus Bristol. For Beth, start their front row. And that goes for TRM and FRD. So if you have a Beth front row player, boom, play him. Francois Lowe, Zach Mercer, Reese Priestland. Those are your guys to start anywhere, any, you know, either format.
00:56:30
Speaker
Uh, for frd only start rucka de uni and willison um and sits as always tom homer and this time josh medivacy Oh, yeah, uh for bristol and only because he's he's at 12 Possibly because he played there this past week. Yeah
00:56:45
Speaker
He's not set back on FRD, that's not helpful at all. If he's playing at center, no. Nope. I'm not sure why they had him there, but I think they were trying something and it didn't work. Hopefully, they don't keep trying it. For Bristol, start their front row. Also, Joyce, if he's playing, because he's actually been
00:57:07
Speaker
I mean, yeah, been all right. He's been he's been great recently Yep, uh, chris vuey did put an excellent shift at six, but he's also very good when he's playing at lock. Uh hues goes without saying, um, hire randall, I think And i'll get to it later. Uh, but I think he's gonna get a lot more time even now I think andy urine is is
00:57:26
Speaker
officially doghouse heading very fast to the towards the dog house Permitting glued to the pie Callum Shidi and pia tau are your starters and the for effort only You're looking at more hand purdy and layua
00:57:43
Speaker
and sits piers o'connor and at this point i i and i i add any urine as the sit and i know he's not going to start but i've added in there because i've been saying both are okay both are okay at this point urine he had another bad kick charge down and he didn't play that he didn't play that much but when he played it was evident that he wasn't breaking in um so so he's a guy who at this point don't even don't know he's he's off the the list okay uh premiership starts in sixth of the week well
00:58:13
Speaker
We'll go, we'll both go with our starts. My Premiership start of the week this week is the wine only Jack Willis. That's a good one. Wins turnovers left and right, especially in TRM, it's totally worth the captaining of him. He's been scoring 30 and 40 points at a whack without even blanking. So definitely play him, play him an FRD. It translates pretty well there too. So yeah, do that.
00:58:35
Speaker
My start of the week is a guy who I believe he got over last week He's been scoring like a monster from from his position, which is odd But given the team that he's on he's going to rack up points this especially he's gonna rack up points this week Based on the the matchup and that's Johnny Hill. Yeah
00:58:54
Speaker
Yeah, he did get over last week. I was like, oh well, he's back. All right I mean and that's the thing you that's why I had turn saying start the exit or pack because you can ever you know They're all getting over Okay, so there's the thing exit or it's not like they don't have two fucking amazing flankers that they could be playing instead of him at that position and
00:59:20
Speaker
Yeah, baffling. I don't know. I have not seen nearly enough Armand. I have not seen nearly enough Mac of Essex. Yeah. I have seen far too much debut. That square face blockhead. I have a problem. Listen, Baxter, we have an issue. Yeah. And it has nothing to do with who you are. I have several issues with Rob Baxter. That's just one. But at this point, it's my biggest. Oh, man. Primer ship set.
00:59:47
Speaker
Um, a guy that's probably highly picked and probably going to be on a lot of teams, but I think he's going against the exact wrong team to play him against. And that's Ruan Ackerman. That's, that's a sale being what they are this year. And I know he's going to be, everybody's like, Oh, he's going to do so great. If you don't have a guy that's outright like scoring blinders, don't play him. Ackerman is going to be somebody that get the people fall into.
01:00:11
Speaker
And in the same vein, now we've had a lot of questions because Jared and I, as scary as it is to imagine, we don't always agree. I don't know how that works, but we don't. And it's going to happen again this week. It's possible to have a friendship like that. Right. It's going to happen this week again, where people are going to look at our start and sit and be like, what the fuck are these guys doing? But it's just because we have different views of what's happening.
01:00:36
Speaker
But it's also for the same reason is that he's this particular individual is playing against the toughest defense Fantasy wise in the premiership and he plays a position that generally doesn't score points anyway, although he generally does So my sit of the week is gonna be Mark Atkinson. Oh, yeah
01:00:53
Speaker
I have stock in him too, shit. I hope that's not the case, but that's not a bad point by any means whatsoever. All right, let's go to the Super Rugby, guys. Let's go, Highlanders and Rebels. This should be a fairly high-scoring affair, so if you can get a piece anywhere in this game, it's probably not a terrible idea, although there are a couple pieces I would stay away from depending on what's what. Anyway, let's go with the guys from the Highlanders. John and Orecky, you cannot sit him. Reno2, you cannot sit him either. Michael Collins has been a
01:01:23
Speaker
Hell of a pickup if anybody grabbed him off the wafer wire. Josh Iwani has put that really bad first game behind him. He's fine. Go ahead and roll him out there. Rob Thompson's not a bad midfielder sit play this week. James Lynch's, I'm gonna stipulate this one. If you're playing the full 15 version only like the first lead that Ben and I drafted and you have three loose forwards, he's fine. Other than that, I would get away from him. And then an outright sit would be one, Aaron Smith.
01:01:53
Speaker
Wow. Yeah. He's not, he's not done well. He's not done well. He hasn't. Rebels, despite the fact that they're not scoring well in terms of their own points on the board and then the standings, they're still worth playing. Dana Halepetti, Izzy Neisserani, Andrew Callaway, Marika Korobetti, without even batting an eye.
01:02:11
Speaker
Tom English, Billy Meeks, and Matt Tamua should be fine as well, but I would pine either Lamani or Lorenz. Doesn't matter which one. Don't play either half-pack and neither one was scoring great, and Islanders won't let too much up on top of that.
01:02:28
Speaker
Taz versus lions, um, kind of slim pickings for the water toss. And I'm not going to give any sits for a super rugby at this point, because again, don't know. Uh, I need to see match ups and lineups first, uh, to get that lineups usually help. Right. So I'm going to tell you the guys who you're definitely going to be playing as they're assuming they're in the lineup, uh, for the Taz, uh, Hooper, Jake Gordon, curvy bill. Yeah. No, Jake Gordon's been such a great pickup. I'm so glad I drafted him. So glad I have him at least in one, if not both teams. Hell yeah.
01:02:56
Speaker
So for the lions, it's a little bit of longer for a list. Uh, Len Massen, Marnah Schumann, Mornay Vandenberg, Elton Yankees, Tyrone Green, and Andreas Kotsi. These guys, they're going to, you know, any number of those guys are going to get you points. At least 10 plus was usually what I'm looking for.
01:03:12
Speaker
And the Todd's are giving up some points and they're and are vulnerable. They're just, you know, the reason they're probably not more leaky than Sun Wolves is because they didn't play last week. That's why they saved them. All right. Speaking of Sun Wolves, hurricanes and Sun Wolves, hurricanes, it's plenty of starts. You know, just grab a hurricane and hope. I've been playing walk a little area as a lock. And this is definitely a week I was hoping that I would be able to hold on to them.
01:03:38
Speaker
Anyway, Geordie Barrett, Der Benland, La Mape, Der de Der.
01:03:42
Speaker
Wes Hoosin and Kariffy are good this week. Gareth Evans is good. Hurricanes front row, rock and roll, go for it. And then TJ's good to go as well this week for your halfback.
Sunwolves and Reds: Fantasy Picks
01:03:52
Speaker
Most of you picked him pretty high anyway, so you probably should be already starting him. For the Sun Wolves, they still have some decent options, believe it or not, despite their last week talking. Fafita's actually a top 50 scorer, so if you have him, play him. Don't even blink.
01:04:09
Speaker
Uh, Garth April is a fine fly half. If that's who you have, you, you got lucky. You're doing all right. Yeah. Um, Dargaville fine. Sumwool's front row is actually very playable this week. Jared Adams is a prop is scoring very, very well. I think he's at eight or nine points a whack. So go ahead and play him. And I know Jordan Jackson hope only played one game, but he's probably feeling pretty good about himself after last week, despite his team's poor performance. So go ahead and roll him out there as well, especially if you picked them fairly early in the draft.
01:04:39
Speaker
On to reds versus shocks. Reds. Are we talking about the South African sharks or the sail sharks? The sharks. Is there a difference? Not really. So this is the South African sharks. Southern sharks. Southern hemisphere sharks. Yeah. So for the reds, you want to be starting Chris Fayway.
01:05:01
Speaker
Yeah, I always have to yeah. Yeah, yeah that thank I said Henry spade their front row and Tate McDermott spade For the for the the shocks you want to be starting Kerwin Bosch my pimpy Fosse tomboy I'm not sure and the shocks front row. Yeah There's plenty. There's plenty like about that. Yeah, there's a yeah I thought that back three played really well last week. So that is definitely a Big one and they have a lot they have I think I named for their back. They're back
01:05:30
Speaker
No, I didn't know for their back their outside backs, but they do have four that could score from anywhere score. Yeah, so Yeah, that those are their top scoring back three, but they I'm missing somebody who I'm sure could be a Shot off the bed or at least shot as a starter. Yeah, right possibly possibly. Okay Just go get back here
01:05:54
Speaker
There it is. Stormers and Blues. Well, Stormers are a stingy, stingy defense, but the Blues actually still play some pretty open stuff and manage to score from a lot of funny places. For the Stormers, Damian Wilhelmsa and Hershel Yenshi should be no-brainers. You're playing them if you have them in your team. Cozia Nell.
01:06:15
Speaker
Peterson lades kits off especially and Sonatla our guys that you're gonna roll out there Augustus and Peter stuff to toy are gonna be guys you play only if you're in that 15 player format that then I picked yeah first draft they're scoring okay, you know really disappointing I thought he was gonna be be
01:06:37
Speaker
I thought he was going to make more tackles and do more things that get him points, but it just doesn't seem to be going that way for him. So again, if you're in that full 15 version and you have three loose forwards, okay, fine, you're good. Augustus does have the potential, but he also has the potential for a dud too. So again, only in those situations. I just have PSTD.
01:07:07
Speaker
Blues Again, they're not the record is not great, but they can score plenty of points from a lot of places Mark Talia Steven parapetted Hoskins to do to he had a stinker last week But if he's playing you're gonna roll him out there
01:07:18
Speaker
Uh, Terry Black's not a bad one if he's out there. He scored 10 points, I think last week, which is not Terry. Yeah, it's not bad. Actually, um, Joe Marchant is definitely worth the play. And so is TJ. But you're gonna send the blues front row because stormers don't give up a ton to the front rows.
01:07:36
Speaker
And last but not least, we have the Bulls versus the Hagerais. For the Bulls, this is going to be even shorter than the Waratas. Mornay Stein. If you've been listening, I've been trying to say that that Specman's going to get off the Schneider.
01:07:52
Speaker
No, I was I was hopeful but I'm no longer hopeful I've given him, you know a couple opportunities. Is he in your team? No. Okay, that's good Yeah, I think I picked him up at one point for a spot start and I was like but he's like a guy who if you He should be on the scrap heap as a wing in a prayer kind of guy. Yeah, no pun intended but
01:08:16
Speaker
No, he wouldn't be a regular starter. No And then for the headquarters start their front row Gorison Kramer If they're playing they they both they're kind of scoring light a little bit But they've also shown the propensity to put up like 20 to 30 So there's their guys you kind of have to to play anyway They're kind of the opposite of that spectrum and you're kind of yeah instead of hoping they're gonna play well You kind of hoping they don't have an off week. Yes, I
01:08:42
Speaker
Cubelli, Mioti, and Bonilla, whoever is starting, Moroni, Bofelli, Carreras, all excellent options. Yep. Love them. Love them. Love them. Okay. Start of the week. Starts and says to the week. My start of the week. Well, this one will not be a surprise. Low hanging fruit.
01:09:00
Speaker
My start of the week will be the hurricanes weren't only jordy barrett nice and I actually didn't Check to to see make sure he was playing But I just figured dane halipet he's gonna have a fucking excellent day. Yeah, he probably is gonna. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good pick
01:09:15
Speaker
Okay. Um, you might have to get a new one. I'm not, I'm not sure. That's okay. Um, so the week, um, it's not, uh, a super, super surprised, but this is like the, the, the darling of a lot of people and he's played pretty well, but he's going against a tough defense, Tom Robinson. All right.
01:09:37
Speaker
See, I'm going to take that same cue, and this is a guy who I had in my start list until I really thought about it and looked at the matchup. But I'm going to have, for my set of the week, James O'Connor.
01:09:46
Speaker
Oh wow, that's a big call. That is a big call. And I like James O'Connor. Same. But the sharks are eating up. Fly halves. Pun intended fly halves. Much, much, much. And so he could have a good day. So when I'm putting him as I said of the week, it's not so much as this guy's going to suck. It's more of a. Hopefully you have somebody else. Temperate expectations. And if you have another option, take that other option. Because I think O'Connor is going to struggle a little bit this week.
01:10:12
Speaker
Yep. Fair enough. That's a fair point. All right. You can still get you 10 points, but you don't have James O'Connor to get you 10 points. You have him to get you. Like 15 plus. Right. Especially because he's a midfielder. So. Now he's playing 10. Right. So that should be helpful, but at the same time.
01:10:27
Speaker
Tough to say about this week. Yeah.
Predictions and Match Conditions Analysis
01:10:31
Speaker
All right. Let's go to pick on real quick Gloucester sale on Friday night. I Don't love the idea of sale playing away from home right now. So I'm gonna go with the cherry and white I'm also gonna go with Gloucester. I think they're they have They want to answer a little bit. I think yeah, they seem to have found themselves a little bit. So we'll see other yeah Quinn's exit on Saturday
01:10:52
Speaker
I got to go with X-ray. Quinn's are not playing well right now. I agree. This will be interesting. Both teams just got absolutely whacked last week, and they are probably a little bit on the struggle bus. Saracen's going to Franklin's Gardens, where they've had a hard time winning against the Saints. Hmm.
01:11:12
Speaker
You know, they're not playing for much, but i'm going to pick the Saracens And I know those saints are playing for so much more. They're playing for top two. They're playing for everything. Yeah, but the saints have been Just garbage. Yeah, so I mean of course the saris have been just garbage the last the two of the last three weeks I've been great from the Saracens. No And it's always going to be tough for them when when six nations are around. Um, it seems to be extra tough this year
01:11:39
Speaker
but that's also for other other circumstances to I Get the feeling that that a lot of the Saracens are just kind of especially the young kids Are in over their heads? Oh So I think I think the Saints take this one Okay, Lester Worcester Man I'm sorry, it is this is not great. Um, I
01:12:06
Speaker
I really don't love Lester, but I just, they're at home and they seem to be playing a little bit better at home lately. So I'll go with fucking tigers. And I'm going to go with Worcester. Yeah, fair enough. I'm not saying I don't hope that Worcester wins. I just think that Lester's going Irish and loss. I'm going with the London Irish again, man. They are. They're playing great. As the French say, Moi OC. Uh,
01:12:34
Speaker
All right. Uh-huh. And then Bath Bristol at the bog. That's the only problem with this match.
01:12:41
Speaker
It is, but that kind of that slows down the Bristol attack. Right. But, you know. Give me Nathan Hughes. Yeah. Give me Nathan Hughes. And I love Zach Mercer, but Hughes is just that type of guy that can get you over the game line with the field, the slop. That's the problem. That's the thing. So. And Bristol do have the runners, even in the slop. So when it comes to getting out wide, they have the guys with the agility to make steps and make guys miss and fall down. And that's going to be big in that whatever that
01:13:10
Speaker
The mud yeah All right. Let's go down on your highlanders and rebels rebels have not played well outside of their match against the war toss in terms of Finding ways to get wins. I'm gonna go ahead and take the highlanders I think they bounced but they bounce bounce back against that lost from the Crusaders And I think that uh that this is just a bad year for the highlanders. So I'm gonna go with the rebels. Okay, so
01:13:34
Speaker
Oh, this would be interesting. Wartas and Lions. Wartas aren't playing particularly well. They did have a bye week. And so, but so did the Lions. So I think I'm going to take the Lions. I am also taking the Lions. Yeah.
01:13:47
Speaker
Hurricanes and Sun Wolves. God love you Sun Wolves. You guys are doing great things this year and I know you got taunt last week, but it's going to happen again this week. I'm taking my Hurricanes. I'm also taking your Hurricanes. Yeah. All right. To the next day, Reds and Sharks. I'm taking the Sharks. They've been playing really good stuff lately outside of the one game they played against the Hurricanes, which unfortunately circumstances happen that probably caused that.
01:14:12
Speaker
Yeah, and I think the reds are going to be smelling themselves a little bit after last week. And they're going to get brought down to earth.
01:14:20
Speaker
Okay, yeah, I can't say I argue with that. I mean, they played the sunwalls for God's sake. Don't get too far ahead of yourselves there, kids. Yeah. Don't get penneasy. Stormers and blues. Oh, man. Stormers just have been making it ugly, but they've been winning. And they've been in South Africa for most of it, so I'm going to go with the stormers.
01:14:42
Speaker
I'm also going to go with the Stormers. See what happens when they move outside of South Africa. Right. They're playing very well. The Blues have their holes still. Yes. Yeah. Until Bowdoin Baird walks back into that dressing room. Yeah. Yeah. But until they return back to New Zealand likely. So.
01:14:59
Speaker
Yeah, that's still not going to help their their lack of a nine. Agreed, agreed. Small problem. Yeah, a little bit of a problem. Didn't we say like didn't you and I have a conversation about not playing like Jonathan Marou at all? And if you're playing him, you're a fucking idiot. Yes. Didn't you get like my points last week? Probably. Yeah, not good. Not great. Bulls and Jaguars. I am taking the team from Argentina.
01:15:24
Speaker
I'm gonna go with Jags. I know they're away from home, but... Yeah. They probably play... From what I understand, they probably played well enough to beat the Stormers, but the Stormers are a good team this year, so...
01:15:32
Speaker
Right. That's the thing is that, you know, and they're, they're now they're, they've traveled a little bit. They, they have a chance to settle in and the bulls are not, what's that word? Good. Something like that. Something like that. Oh man. All right. Well, we, we were able to rattle through a lot and a fairly good time for us.
01:15:54
Speaker
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01:16:18
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