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Speaker: 99% of the population doesn't get enough omega-3 for optimum health. When I found that out and I said, oh my God, we can make them with health in mind, it's like, oh my God, we could help almost everybody. That's what drove the project.
Speaker: It wasn't about money. What drove it was, oh my God, we could help so many people, almost everybody.
Speaker: This is the Home of Health Spam podcast, where we profile health and wellness role models, sharing their stories and the tools, practices, and routines they use to live a lively life.
Speaker: Udo Erasmus, welcome to the Home of Health Spam podcast. Glad to be on. It's going to be fun. It is going to be fun and informative and educational. And before we get into all that, how would you describe yourself?
Speaker: I'm a lively biological specimen. ah What? No, i you know what? I am just a lively human being and alive, lively because I'm alive.
Speaker: You are alive. And by the time this drops in 84 years of alive on this earth, where we're recording this nine days before your birthday. Yes. If you count conception as a starting point, then I'm already halfway to 85. Yeah, there you
Speaker: Well, fantastic. Yeah, it is great to have an a lively human being on the show. Yeah, the dead ones stay the dead ones don't interview well, right? they They don't have much to say.
Speaker: But you do have a lot to say. You know, we we live in a world where there's a lot of discussion and debate and thoughts in this whole seed oil space.
Speaker: um and And your journey to it is a highly personal one. Can you talk about yeah how you got into this space and this work? Yeah, i I got married and we had three kids and my marriage broke up and I wanted to kill something. I was really upset.
Speaker: So i wanted to kill something and I took a job as a pesticide sprayer. And I did that for three years and I was really careless. Like I walked barefoot through over the lawns I had just sprayed with weed killers.
Speaker: And then the skin peeled off the bottom of my feet. And I said, okay, I guess maybe maybe I need to wear rubber boots. So I was doing this job in a bathing suit, wearing rubber boots, no shirt, and the wind would drift the spray on my back and I would feel it.
Speaker: And somebody said to me, aren't you worried you're going to get poisoned? And I said, nah, I'm immune. I wasn't immune. I got poisoned after three years of doing that. And I went to the doctor and said, what do you have for pesticide poisoning? And she said, nothing.
Speaker: And at that point, the penny dropped. Oh, my health really is my responsibility. I knew that. And I wasn't like really sloppy in my food habits.
Speaker: But it was like, yeah, it really, it drilled it down. oh my God, I'm on my own here. And so I had background in biochemistry, genetics, and biological sciences. That was the love of my life when I was in educat when i was getting educated.
Speaker: And so I decided to use the background that I had to figure it out for myself. You know, the first thing is, if you're getting poisoned, you you got to stop taking the poison. So I stopped spraying, obviously, right?
Speaker: And then I started looking at, well, oh, yeah I found out in just, you know, that the body is always turning over. Like 98% of the atoms in your body today will have been removed and replaced if we get together on this day next year.
Speaker: So the 98% of your body turns over in a year. So then was thought, okay, well, if something goes wrong, then what you have to do is you have to raise your standard. Because in one year, you can have rebuilt 98% of your body to a higher standard if you do that.
Speaker: That's called healing. That's why healing is possible. If the body wasn't always turning over, healing would not be possible. And so I started looking at, well, what what is the standard need to look like? And I got into all the science of nutrition because the body's made out of food, water, and air.
Speaker: I was only focused on nutrition at the time. So the body's made out of food. So what's what's essential in the food supply? And there are 42 essential nutrients, 18 minerals, 13 vitamins, nine essential amino acids, two essential fatty acids,
Speaker: and And essential means you have to have it to live and be healthy. You can't make it in your body from anything else. Therefore, you have to bring it in from outside, food or supplement.
Speaker: And if you don't get enough, then you cannot stay healthy. Your health will deteriorate. You will get deficiency symptoms. Those will get worse with time.
Speaker: If you don't get enough of any one of these 42 essential nutrients long enough, you die. Like this is this is the key stuff in nutrition. And this is relatively recent, right? With the the nutrition, but was it, I could be wrong, but was it we first kind of learned about the essential nutrients from scurvy, from sailors when they started backing out, oh, vitamin C is this thing. And when you're on a ship and you're not getting fresh plants and not able to get it. The reason why the British Navy took over the world
Speaker: was not because they were the best fighters, was because they developed, ah you know, they used to have pork. Pork was the food of of the sailors.
Speaker: And there's no vitamin C in pork. So they figured out, a a a doctor by the name of Lund, L-U-N-D, in England, figured out that limes,
Speaker: have vitamin C in them. And if you give the sailors limes on their voyages, they don't get scurvy and they don't die. And that's, by the way, why the British were called limies, because they took limes on their ocean vol voyage. That makes lot sense. And so Britannia ruled the waves because...
Speaker: Dr. Lund figured out that limes contain vitamin C and prevent people from dying of scurvy. So when the British sailors were going around and they'd they'd want to make war with people on other boats, they would climb into the boats and everybody everybody was already dead from scurvy. Yeah, it makes it easier.
Speaker: And that's how it makes the fight very easy. I guess my my question then, so like we, we Dr. Lon discovered and so we had vitamin C and then we kind of it discovered as we go. And so, yeah, yeah. The same thing happened with others. Berry Berry from B vitamin. And, ah you know, there was pellagra from vitamin B3 deficiency. So we had those because we were eating poorly and then they figured them out. And then they did the chemistry and all of that pretty much happened in the in the ah late 19th and 20th centuries.
Speaker: and And so then to let me finish the definition. So you die if you don't get enough long enough. But then if you're going down, but you bring enough of ah the missing essential nutrient back, then all the problems that you get from not getting enough are reversed because life knows how to make your body.
Speaker: Provided you, the only thing you have to do is make sure that you get the essential building blocks in optimum quantities if you want optimum health. In minimum quantities if you're okay with just minimum health.
Speaker: And so that's the definition. And then I got stuck on oils because it was really confusing. It's still confusing. And most of the people who talk about oils these days say, don't use seed oils and don't use omega sixes.
Speaker: And they're completely misleading you because omega sixes are essential. and they haven't done their homework. I've been working in with oils now for 45 years. I was sick, so I couldn't just settle for BS answers.
Speaker: i had I needed to know what's true. And so I really dug into it. Most people are not sick, and they just make up stuff. And then they scare you, and then they sell something else behind it.
Speaker: And I hate it because they mislead people. So most of the people, don't get their fats right. They're wrong about, because it's not omega-6 that's the problem.
Speaker: It's not getting enough omega-3s with your omega-6s. That's a problem. It's the ratio. The balance between the two. Yeah, because they use the same system in the body to be converted into all kinds of hormone-like regulating substances.
Speaker: You need both them of them to do their job. And if you get to too much of one, it'll crowd out the other. If you get too much of the other, it'll crowd out the one. So the balance has to be right. The second thing that's wrong is It's not the omega-6s that are the problem.
Speaker: It's the damage done to them by industry and in our frying pan that makes them toxic. So then blame the frying pan, not the omega-6s, not the seed oils. And seeds, seeds and nuts, when you eat seed and nuts, they're associated with longevity.
Speaker: Okay, so what happened between what happened between the seed and nut that gives you longevity and the oil, that now you say is is toxic.
Speaker: Well, but the only thing that happened between the two is processing. So blame the processing, because if you look at our degenerative diseases, processing is the common denominator of on all of them.
Speaker: Because when you eat fresh, whole, raw, organic, local, in season, mostly plant-based, the way nature's creatures eat.
Speaker: When you live eat like that, you tend to not get the degenerative diseases. I did have a question on that when you talk about the 42 essential. So, you know, that we identify these in isolation.
Speaker: And there's a world like ah the Brave New World design where you don't really eat for joy anymore. You just take these supplements and you get all of the essential. And so you could say, hey, I got the essential amount from these. But is there a level of... We don't actually know.
Speaker: There's something more going on when it's coming from certain fruits and vegetables. And... they come in combination and it's that combination and how our body processes and stores in that combination. So you can't just distill it down to a pill. You actually need the process of consuming and digesting and absorbing that's different.
Speaker: Yeah. In in nature, i mean, if you think about it, if in nature, vitamin C comes with a whole bunch of other molecules, including bioflavonoids,
Speaker: And in fact, the research showed that vitamin C was not, you know, they got better results. They started with green peppers and then they isolated fractions from it.
Speaker: And they got the best results when they had vitamin C and the bioflavonoids together. But the bioflavonoids are really hard to make. So the industry settled on vitamin c because it's a pretty simple molecule.
Speaker: And so vitamin C got the attention and it does reverse scurvy. but it doesn't get you optimum health all by itself. And that's true for any mineral, any vitamin. you know They're always in a context of a whole bunch of other things.
Speaker: And you could make an argument, like for instance, in the herbs and the spices, there are very specific molecules that we can't make. that they contain, they make for their own protection, living in nature with bacteria and viruses and fungus, just like we do.
Speaker: They make these molecules that protect them. So presumably the the bacteria don't like the taste of those molecules, so they leave them alone. This is not food for me, right? so So all of these molecules we can't make. So you could say they're essential.
Speaker: But they're not essential because we can, there's different ways that different creatures, different plants mostly have made these molecules for their protection. We don't need each one of them and we don't die if we don't get them because there's a lot of different ways that they're made. So they've never been included in our essential nutrients, but we can't make bioflavonoids either.
Speaker: Right. So you could make an argument. Well, they're kind of they're essential, but none of the herb and spice stuff has ever been given that kind of reverence, you might say.
Speaker: Well, I was I was going to ask that. So I have two kind of questions here. One, you know, we have the 42 that we identified over time. it was kind of one coming in. And so now we stand at this point that we say, OK, we know the 42.
Speaker: we We don't. We don't. There's still some debate about lithium that is in small doses maybe actually central. In large doses has some nasty side effects and was used in treating bipolar and stuff like that. but But ah we we know most of them.
Speaker: Totally. But no one no one who's done the study says, well, just take those 42 and forget about everything else. No, no, no. They're supposed to be supplements. They're not supposed to be replacements.
Speaker: So what you do is you you eat the best whole food diet you can. And then you supplement that diet with something that may be too low or maybe you need a little more of because you're under more stress or something.
Speaker: Nobody ever said, if in their right mind, ever said you can just take supplements of those 42 essential nutrients, and that should be the your whole deal.
Speaker: Yeah, separate from the supplementation, and it's more on that lifting point, because I would imagine there was a point that they said, oh, we know the 30 essential. Oh, we know the 35 essential. Oh, we know the 40 essential.
Speaker: And we're sitting on 42. And do we have the humility to say, hey, here we know 42 now, but maybe there are others we just haven't isolated and identified and everything that we don't yet understand.
Speaker: We're little too arrogant to to be that to be that humble. Right? So, yeah. and And everybody who comes up with something, they think, oh, yeah, what I came up with is the is the most important. I do it, too.
Speaker: I developed a method for making oils with health in mind because they're really sensitive and they get damaged. So I created a way to make them without damage.
Speaker: Is that the most important thing going on in nutrition? I think so. and And I think so because 99% of the population doesn't get enough omega-3 for optimum health. 99%. And I was like, when I found that out and I said, oh my God, we can make them with health in mind. it was oh my God, we could help almost everybody.
Speaker: And you know it was like, that feels so good in the heart when you do when you help. and it's like that's what drove That that's what drove the project. It wasn't about money. The money was okay for at times.
Speaker: I'm not making any money on it now, but, but um you know, but what drove it was, oh my God, we could help so many people, almost everybody. yeah On that, let's talk more about that. And in your book, the oil change in this, you talked about kind of two different points. So we know when it's a whole plant,
Speaker: that if we're eating nuts and these are health giving, health delivering. And then there's a process of turning that into an oil, which can be destructive and disruptive and toxic producing. But then there's a separate, once it's produced and handed to you, even it's maybe produced the right way, what you at home do with it or in a restaurant do with it that may corrupt the what was good before it got into your hands. So should we talk about each of those? Because ultimately it's what it's like once you're consuming it, that is either good and life giving or bad and life attracting.
Speaker: Right. Okay. So if you, if you talk about the industrial processing, and this is the thing that that really ah got me going. It's like I found out from the research journals of the oil industry that when they make an oil the way we make the oils, like they end up colorless, odorless, tasteless, and we put them in plastic bottles now and they're transparent and light goes through and does damage.
Speaker: When they make those oils, I found out from their journals that between half to 1% of the molecules are damaged.
Speaker: And so then i I called them and I said to them, why do you do this when do you know it does damage? And the guy they put on the phone that was a researcher said, well, one of the reasons we do that is we can get rid of half of the pesticides in the oil when we deodorize it at frying temperature.
Speaker: Like they heat it to frying temperature for about half an hour to blow off half the pesticide. And I'd been poisoned by pesticides, so this was not good news for me because I didn't even know they were pesticides and oils. Because when I studied them in in in university, they never told us about all that stuff.
Speaker: So I hadn't thought about it said, oh, my God, half of the half pesticides stay in was was my thought, right? So I said to him, I didn't say that to him. I said to him, well, why don't you start with organically grown seeds? Then you don't have a pesticide poison.
Speaker: And there was this huge silence at the other end of the phone. I guess he had never been asked that question. It had never occurred to him. And so he had no answer for it. And then any answer he said was going to be stupid.
Speaker: So he didn't say anything for a long time. And then when he he he started talking, he started attacking me. He says, i don't know what your problem is. The oil is only 1% damage and it's 99% good. And if you got 99% on an exam, you'd be damn happy, wouldn't you?
Speaker: Right. So like I'm saying, OK, wow, maybe maybe I'm overreacting. It's only one percent. So then I decided to do the math. So how many molecules are you getting into your body that are damaged if your oil is one percent damaged and you take a tablespoon of it?
Speaker: So I did the math. There's a way to do that. You want to guess how many damaged molecules you would get in a tablespoon of oil that is one percent damaged? One point two million.
Speaker: Okay. Yeah, that's good. So 1.2 million. that's So let's say 1 million. Okay, the actual number is a six followed by 19 zeros.
Speaker: 60 quintillion damaged molecules. So your estimate, and I do this on purpose because we don't know how to do that. We don't know how how small molecules are, right? So everybody who listens to you is pretty much in the same position, but there's a way to figure it out if you have the science background for it.
Speaker: And 60 quintillion damaged molecules in a tablespoon. is more than a million damaged molecules for every one of your body's 60 trillion cells.
Speaker: And these are molecules that never existed in nature. So nature never made a breakdown program for them. So they get into your body and then wherever they go, they interfere with what is supposed to be going on there.
Speaker: And if you got a million for every cell, you you you're creating a lot of places in your body for things to not be going on properly. And that's why the the processing is a problem.
Speaker: Because in their natural state, the molecules are all natural. And we evolved in that system. And life created breakdown programs for what exists in nature. Not everything, because there's poisons in nature too.
Speaker: right But the foods, you know we we have the means to break them down and make them useful, turn them into energy, turn them into structures in our cells, whatever we need.
Speaker: We have the the program to do that. That was honed over billions of years of existence on the planet, like about four four billion.
Speaker: And it's a really good program because everything that didn't work got discarded. So we're the end product of an unbroken line of sexual or reproductive successes that goes all the way back four and a half billion years, unless you think we're specially created.
Speaker: But you know if you look at the genetic material, you know ah gorillas are only 1% different from us genetically, and bananas are only 60% different from us. So 40% of the banana is same as you.
Speaker: so So you're just at and um and more like you're a more more anna more evolved banana. Right? so So the whole system you know is is is interconnected.
Speaker: And we come out of that system and you don't get health and live unless you live in line with nature and your nature. Most corporate wellness programs overwhelm employees with too much or they offer too little to be useful.
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Speaker: They're damaging 1%. But then when you put it in plastic and it's clear and sunlight and heat and everything, i imagine the damage continues. And then when you use it and you're using it to make french fries or fried chicken or something, you're you're damaging it even more. So have you tracked that chain?
Speaker: Yeah, I'll give you the number. So I'll give you the number. When you put oil in plastic, plastic and oil have a similar chemistry. Oils will swell the plastic. Plastic will leach into oil quicker than into water.
Speaker: So that's the plastic. part Then you still have half the pesticides in there because you only took half of them out. So you got pesticides in your oil because they're not using organic seeds, right? Then ah you you have it in transparent bottles and light goes in and light is the most destructive influence on oils. Oxygen also will damage them and heat will damage them.
Speaker: But light is the most destructive. but they're They're not protected from light. And when a photon hits an electron and boots it out of orbit, you get a free radical and it takes on average 30,000 free radical reactions in a chain before that electron settles down again. And you got squillions of photons going through this transparent plastic you know when they're sitting on a shelf.
Speaker: in ah in in daylight, right? So there's that. And then when you fry them, you got to multiply that whole number. It's like already 60 quintillion. You got to multiply that number by probably another five times because frying is the dumbest things we've ever invented to to to do to food if health is our goal.
Speaker: You know, and we, I say to people, you got a frying pan? Of course, everybody has one. Go get it, turn it upside down, hit yourself upside of the head with it so that, you know, so that it's associated with pain and then throw that stupid thing out and go back to cooking your food in water if you're going to cook.
Speaker: But if you really want to get in line with nature and like all the other creatures, eat your foods raw, just make sure they're not contaminated. So poached eggs, not scrambled eggs.
Speaker: Well, you can water scramble your eggs too. And you can soft boil and hard boil them. And you can do like the fox and just punch a hole in each end and suck it out raw. Right?
Speaker: That's, you know, i I mean, the creatures that eat eggs, eat the eggs raw. You never see a fox with a frying pan. I just got to cook me up some eggs here. Right?
Speaker: you You talk about your 10 steps to to whole health. can you Can you take us through those? Well, yeah, I got into oils because that was the most confusing area. Then we got into digestion because that's everybody's got stuff with digestion. We got into enzymes, probiotics, fiber, and and ah bitters, herbs, right?
Speaker: Then we got into greens. And then one day I was sitting and saying, okay, what else affects health? And the answer came back was, well, everything affects health, everything.
Speaker: Okay, so if you want to be healthy, then you got to get everything. It's due, right? you okay It's not like, you know, oh, okay, I want to be healthy, so I'll just pray to God.
Speaker: Or, oh, I want to be healthy, so i'll just I'll just drop a lot of vitamin C. Or, I want to be healthy, so I'll just make sure that me and my girlfriend get along.
Speaker: Right? No, you got to do all of it. because all of it plays a role. So then I said, okay, let me, so what are they what are the distinct and different separable parts of nature and human nature that affect health? Because health, you can define health as living in line with nature and your nature.
Speaker: So let's look at your nature. What is it made of? At the deepest level, it's awareness. Awareness is beyond energy. It has no substance.
Speaker: But when you see, it's not your eyes that see, it's not your brain that sees, it's not your body that sees, it's not your mind that sees, and it's not even your life that sees.
Speaker: There's something beyond that within which your life unfolds. And I call that awareness. Some people call it God. so The physicists call it the field. You could call it peace because that's its that's where peace lives in you.
Speaker: It is not affected because peace is like the whole universe is in peace. And within peace, galaxies explode and the peace is not affected.
Speaker: Right? Well, in your body, there's peace that's not affected by anything going on, but that observes everything, that notices everything. But you won't know that until you bring your focus.
Speaker: You know, you need still stillness time with yourself when you just get present to what is this. So that's that's the core. Within that peace is a fraction of solar energy,
Speaker: that is called life, that is the master in the body, that is what all the masters talked about, that is called life, that is its nature is unconditional empowering love,
Speaker: for the body, because you are, you know, if you're you're looking to, you know how everybody's looking for love from the outside, you got a love that no one on the outside can get to you, within you, life loving your body unconditionally.
Speaker: Its only task is to keep you running. It weighs nothing. It runs everything. It's perfect health. It never gets sick and never dies. So that's number two.
Speaker: Number three, the shine of that into the world. I call it inspired purpose. When you feel in peace and loved, then your your life becomes really simple. Okay, I'm taken care of. I don't have to take care of myself.
Speaker: So what can I do that's helpful? So then you just want to help. Oh, well, that's nice, right? You want to help do what needs to be done? Maybe make the biggest splash for good that you can make in the time you have.
Speaker: That's number three. So that would be positive mind or visionary mind or genius or originality. Those are all names for that. Then number four is the body. That's food and fitness.
Speaker: and rest and and exercise and you know all that. That's where most of our focus on health goes on the just on the body. But you can't be healthy just just dealing with the body.
Speaker: right Then number five is protective mind. That's all your survival skills. And that includes procreation and parenting and education. good And then number six is habitual mind. That's all the garbage in your head that comes from different cultures cultures that made you know that made things important that are not important, like what you wear or ideal ideas you have and all the ideologies that are substitutes for reality.
Speaker: none of which work, those are in there. And that's all the stuff that you need to bring up and look at and say, does this actually make sense? And if it doesn't, then you disconnect from it and you disconnect emotionally from it and you dump it because you don't need the garbage.
Speaker: That's number six. So that's that's human nature. And then the outside effects on for total health based on human nature and nature is social group.
Speaker: People will make you sick. And some people can make help you make make you healthy. So pick the ones that support your health, not that that don't just always put you down.
Speaker: so And whether that's family or not, you know my view is my view is family is not as important as peace, and family is not as important as life or as health. And if if the people in your family make you sick, then get distance from them. You can love them from a distance,
Speaker: You don't have to put up with it with the abuse. So that's now that's the social group. Then outside of that is the natural environment. Obviously, that has an effect on your health. That's where all your resources come from. There's also danger there that you need to pay attention to.
Speaker: Right. And and you like need to live aligned with the natural system, because what we're now right now doing is we're losing our water tables. We're losing our soil fertility because we're taking things off. We're not putting them back.
Speaker: And we're doing a lot of stupid things to our environment. So that's number eight. Number nine is to come to terms with the fact that your body is a terminal condition living in an infinite universe and to be OK with that.
Speaker: You know, it's like, okay, I know that physically there's an there's going to be an end, but am I concerned? No, because I live in the peace that survives and I live in the love that survives and I live in a universe that survives.
Speaker: And yes, the body will go back and get recycled into water, air and dust, and dust you know, and but I am enjoying i'm enjoying the gift i was given where water, air, and light and light, and dust got mixed up in a very precise way so that I could have the human experience for all it is. You know, the happiness, the happy and the sad and the the dancing and the sleeping and the, you know, all the all the things, all the things about human nature. Wow, what a show.
Speaker: And it's all a show that's done by water, which can't do that by itself, and air, which can't do that by itself, and dust, which can't do that by itself, and sunlight, which can't do it by itself. But when they get mixed up into the way we, into us, oh my God.
Speaker: So there's your purpose. The number one purpose is to be fully present in it and enjoy that gift because it's a temporary gift, right? And purpose two is to help where you can.
Speaker: So, and then the the last one is emotional states. And they are a composite of all the other ones. So they are progress reports. Our emotions are our progress reports on how we're doing on the goals that we've set for ourselves.
Speaker: So celebratory means, yay, it's happening. I'm getting there step by step. I see I'm going in the right direction. And the negative emotions come from feeling like your progress is being blocked.
Speaker: And then you get angry to push through it or you become fearful to try and find another strategy or you give up and quit because you don't see how you can get over the obstacles that you have.
Speaker: So those are the 10 parts of human nature, and each one of them needs ah needs a different kind of attention. Each one has a different nature, a different function, needs a different kind of attention on a regular basis. Each one goes off in a different way and responds to a different kind of intervention.
Speaker: And there is the the skeleton for a teachable field of total health based in nature and human nature. Wow. Yeah, that is that is the work of a life and a lifetime. that That's beautifully put and amazing.
Speaker: Yeah, and and ah ah on the on the the Your Body Needs an Oil Change, which is my present version. I have two. One is called Fats That Heal, Fats That Kill. That's really the tome on oils.
Speaker: And I have a new one, which is called Your Body Needs an Oil Change. just like your car. And in that, i've I talk about the oils, and I also talk about opening up to the bigger picture.
Speaker: And i've I've got probably 10,000 pages of notes on the different parts of total health and each one, working through each one to turn it into a teachable field.
Speaker: Yeah, I mean, I would love to have you back on when that is ready to to share publicly as well. That is... Yeah, i'm hoping thatll I'm hoping that'll get done. Okay, let us... Please stay in touch. we would This is...
Speaker: yeah Yeah. Like I said, the work of a lifetime for all of us and just so beautifully put. I i can't wait to read it. And when you think about it, you know, we've been living on this planet for at least 200,000 years.
Speaker: We have never turned health into teachable field. We have never turned human nature into teachable field. And we and we're made out of core peace and core unconditional love.
Speaker: And we don't practice that because we're not in touch with it. And because nobody tells us that, you know, hardly anybody tells us. A few people tell you. But no government has ever told you that you're you're amazing and, you know, you you have potential major potential.
Speaker: And we could all live together in harmony, helping each other. Instead, we're throwing bombs at each other. You know why are we doing that? Because we're discontent. And when you're you were discontent because we're not in touch with the contentment within us, and when you're not in touch with the contentment within us and you're discontent, then you're going to bring your discontent to expression in destructive ways.
Speaker: And that's what war is about. And that's what all our all our arguments all about and all our conflict is about. And we fight about differences in ideas and ideas aren't even real.
Speaker: But we kill each other and kill ourselves over ideas that are BS. It's like, what? Who told you to do that?
Speaker: You know, what the hell are you doing with your yourself and your planet? it's like yeah Getting back to nature and our innate human nature. it's a It's the work we all need to do.
Speaker: Yeah. Makes sense, right? Thank you for the work you're doing in this, Udo. Yeah. Well, i and I have to tell you, I'm not doing it for you. I'm doing it for myself. And it just turns out it it's good, you know, if it's really common, if it's what we have in common, then it turns out doing it for yourself is actually good for everybody.
Speaker: So then I can go out, I'm not discontent, I'm content and I can help people and I can appreciate I can love people. I can have fun with people. Thank you so much and for the work you've done. You can continue to do.
Speaker: Your Body Needs an Oil Change is the most recent Look out for the new one that will be coming later this year. For people who want, besides the book, if they want to follow you, learn more about you, where can they do that?
Speaker: Yeah, not hard to find. Udoerasmus.com is my website. It's a work in progress. There's a lot of lot that needs to happen there. And I'm on Facebook and I'm on Instagram and I'm on LinkedIn and I got a YouTube channel.
Speaker: It's quite a bit of oil stuff is on the YouTube channel. So I'm not hard to find. i've been I've been in this industry for like 45 years and I've been to 40 countries probably and I've given like 5,000 lectures, 3,000 media interviews.
Speaker: So it's quite a bit of stuff that that's floating around, right? But the most important thing is not to find me. The most important thing is to find yourself.
Speaker: That's a great way to close it. Thank you so much, Udo. Enjoy a lively day. All right. Thank you for joining us on today's episode of the Home of Healthspan podcast. And remember, you can always find the products, practices, and routines mentioned by today's guests, as well as many other Healthspan role models on Alively.com.
Speaker: Enjoy a lively day.
