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Episode 53: AI, Intuition, and the Future of Connection
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In this thought-provoking episode, we dive into one of the most controversial topics in the spiritual community: the intersection of AI and psychic work. From using ChatGPT for tarot meanings to friends asking AI about their love lives, we explore where technology meets intuition and where the line should be drawn. We discuss the benefits and pitfalls of AI tools, the importance of trusting your own inner guidance, and why human connection can never be replaced by algorithms. Plus, we share our own confessions about phone addiction, the grayscale hack, and why 2016 isn't coming back (and shouldn't).
Episode Highlights
- [00:31] Shannon's confession: guilty of using ChatGPT for tarot meanings
- [02:15] A friend asks ChatGPT about a date (spoiler: it didn't work out)
- [04:31] How AI and psychics both work with patterns but in opposite directions
- [10:33] The danger of seeking external validation from AI instead of trusting yourself
- [12:37] Using AI for business and content creation: it's a helpful tool
- [17:15] What robots can't do: love, care, and human connection
- [20:11] Shannon's grayscale hack: making your phone less stimulating
- [25:34] People are starting to realize we crave real human connection
- [28:58] Final plea: please don't use AI as a psychic tool for life decisions
- [29:14] Trust yourself: you have the information within
Note: This podcast is for informational and entertainment purposes only.
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Transcript
AI in Psychic Practices: A Controversial Topic
00:00:05
Speaker
Hey, welcome to Psychic Girls Next Door. you know me, Shannon, and and then we have Lily here. Hello, hello. We're excited to talk about this like hot, spicy topic of ai and psychics. and I feel like it's so controversial because so many people are like,
00:00:25
Speaker
I feel like authentic tarot card readers are like don't use ChatGPT for tarot meanings. um I am guilty of definitely using it. I always find, I know that like there's so many bad things about using like AI and ChatGPT, especially for the environment. And then it does feel like sort of inauthentic, but I'm i'm just like naturally a ah curious person about technology. i have my North Node in Aquarius, which is all about like technology and innovation. So I tend to be like, ooh, shiny and new, like attracted to that. ah But yeah, how do you feel about that, Lily, where like it with the use of a i and being somebody with psychic gifts, like how does that resonate
Can AI Act as a Spiritual Tool?
00:01:10
Speaker
with you?
00:01:10
Speaker
It's, you know, what it's interesting is that it's been, of course, the most ah heavily talked topic and at least in the last year or two, I feel like it's become a lot more ingrained in our day, even day-to-day lives. I mean, I also am going to be honest, I do use ChatGPT. I love it. And know ChatGPT, it's the the most like popular one now where people use it for everyday questions, even decisions in their lives, which I find it kind of, I worry about that. Right. Pseudotherapy, like people who can't afford a therapy have been using it for like
00:01:53
Speaker
introspective questions. Yes. And I do have friends that use ChatGPT as a kind of like as their therapy tool or even like spiritual tool as well.
AI vs. Psychic Intuition: What's Lacking?
00:02:05
Speaker
And I've had people that have come to me and said that, oh, yeah I've used ChatGPT to ask about future things, future questions like, oh, I'm going on a date with this guy. What do you see? Wait, really? Yeah, like no kidding. I had a friend of mine and this was like maybe you like I think like last year and I'm like, did you really do that How does that even work?
00:02:36
Speaker
That's great. Well, the thing is that so I mean, unless if you've been living under a rock, I'm pretty sure everyone has heard about ChatGPT and all these AI tools is that It's not an entity.
00:02:49
Speaker
It is not conscious. It does not have awareness. So basically what it does, it just it picks up a lot of information from different sources. And it's just going to like kind of like gather around your question. Of course, CHAT GPT is going to validate.
00:03:06
Speaker
your question. I mean, there is a prompt and it's gonna respond to you. And most likely it will give you like, you know, a friendly kind of supportive answer. And I can't remember what it said, but you know, it was kind of in the lines of that of like, yes, you're gonna have a great time.
00:03:25
Speaker
Blah, blah, blah. So then I asked her later, i was like, well, how was the data? She's like, oh, it it just didn't work. It didn't, it wasn't vibe. I'm like, well, that's what do you get from like asking yeah ah AI. And for me, my, I think for a psychic, a true psychic, your AI tool is your intuition.
00:03:47
Speaker
Yeah, it's it's true. It's like, it's yeah I feel like your intuition is always going to be a lot stronger than an AI tool because I actually asked ChatGPT this question, like, what is the difference? right I just said AI and psychics. And then it came up with like, yeah I love how it's like where technology meets intuition, which is so funny. Yeah.
00:04:10
Speaker
um And so like people, it says like people often think that there's a link between AI and psychics because both feel like they know things, quote unquote, before you do. ah But they arrive to that like consensus in different ways, like how psychics work. It's through intuition or extrasensory perception, pattern sensing through emotion, symbolism, and energy tools like tarot, astrology, mediumship, of course, to like focus on intuition. And then, so like the information is like subjective, symbolic, or interpretive. It's less about, and ah less about certainty, more about like meaning and like something that you like might need to feel or go through or learn. where like AI, they're analyzing a huge, it doesn't like sense or intuit or channel. So when you're looking at the AI and I work in AI, I'm not like an engineer or anything like that, but I work for you know executives who have designed these types of like you know frameworks from our data sets essentially. And so it analyzes a huge volume of past data. So we're like talking about past time, we're like,
00:05:19
Speaker
intuitive like stuff can pick up on maybe potentially future patterning or based on like current pattern patterns. And like maybe the AI, because you are the common like duality between the two is like looking at patterns, right? Or like seeing somebody's patterns, whether that's like past or present or future. And so the ai focuses on the past or like mediums and psychics might be able to see what could potentially happen in the future. like the So it's it's very like, it might feel kind of similar, but the nuances between
AI's Role in Business and Creativity
00:05:53
Speaker
the two is like, think of it as a timeline. Like the AI is looking at a data set that has happened already, where like psychics are looking at potentially like, depending like the question you ask, like something that could potentially happen, like potential outcome, if if that's the type of question you're asking.
00:06:12
Speaker
Yeah, well, you always have to remember that AI is a tool and it's an ah analytical tool. Yeah. So it will. And also, I mean, correct me if I'm wrong. I'm not also ah you know and an engineer or an AI specialist, but it also picks up on your own history, browsing history. yeah Oh, yeah. In your online activity, ah i just kind of, this is just my two cents of what it kind of, it probably has already a sense of, you know, the things that you gravitate towards, your likes, your purchases, and all this stuff.
00:06:51
Speaker
And it just compiles everything into probably something that you will probably want to hear, right? Something that feels validating or supporting. um It's a probability. like Yeah, but it's very much... probably it yeah But you have to think that it's like AI is generated by you. So yeah it's like your prompt and it kind of feeds off of that. Whereas as a psychic, we're just looking when we tap into someone's energy, you're just like you tap into the overall energetic field. And it's just like I...
00:07:30
Speaker
you know, as a psychic, I'm not just going to be there just like saying things that you want to hear. Yeah. I am going to receive, we receive information and then my job is to ask if it's appropriate or not to share that, whatever it is that I see.
00:07:48
Speaker
And then based on that, I'm going to relay that information depending on what is that the, you know, who the reader wants to know. And if it feels like it's something that is really going to help them,
00:07:59
Speaker
you know, whether receive healing or move forward or whatever that feels like they need at the time. And that's where it's like the human touch. That's where it kind of when it comes through.
00:08:11
Speaker
It's my ability to tap and have this intuitive, ah you know, whether it be touch or just creating an an environment that I am not like probing to their information. I'm just kind of using that as something for them to...
00:08:34
Speaker
find healing within themselves. And whether whereas I feel like with the two, like chat GPT for me, like from for a while, i it felt almost like an upgraded version of Google. like is It's a great tool. To me, it it's a great tool. I'm not going to lie. I think like whenever I need like a recipe, right like I'm like, oh, I want to bake something. I go both Google and ChatDpt.
00:09:02
Speaker
And it will give me a lot of different ideas and prompts. But I think ChatDpt is a little more detailed. It's a lot more comprehensive. and But I kind of also want to mention too, just kind of like deviating little from what we're talking, ah there's a friend of mine that i think it was maybe like a year ago. There's a, I think it's called like a plugin, correct if I'm wrong, that it's based a lot on consciousness and spirituality. cool. And I can't, don't remember the name now. I have to kind of go through my phone and see if I can find, I don't know this thing still exists. So what she was saying is that she would put like a, like write a prompt and ask like, oh, what is consciousness?
00:09:45
Speaker
And, you know, and this thing, I'm going to call this thing, quote unquote, it would just like respond. And then she started asking about her own personal things, you know, like relationship with her dad. And then then she, what she was saying was that she was like, oh my gosh, IGBT was so on point.
00:10:02
Speaker
this plugin apparently, and it told me a lot of things that I never told anyone. And I kind of like, I took that with a grain of salt. like And then she was like really surprised and she was almost treating it as like as a therapist slash psychic in a way. yeah and I'm like, well, you really should just just be cautious. Because as much as it's giving you information, you're also giving your information by saying, oh my gosh, that is so true. It's mirroring back.
The Risks of Relying on AI for Guidance
00:10:34
Speaker
And you're yeah like you validating the ai it's going to take that and run with it. And because it's looking for like essentially like the external it's it's looking for validation from you as much as you're looking for validation from it. And you're seeking validation from ah in a different way. Right. Like you're seeking it on a spiritual like, am I living my life correctly or like is this does this feel right? Is this correct?
00:11:04
Speaker
But you're still seeking that external validation. And that's where it gets a little scary. Yeah, like I do find it kind of scary sometimes when people are using it as their only source of information and they make decisions based on that instead of trusting their own information.
00:11:25
Speaker
Right. And I've been there too. I've been the type of person. Yeah, I think we've all been there where you, you know, and I think us as psychics, we also get questions like, oh, please tell me. Right. When I'm like too lazy to do the inner work of figuring out the answer within myself, I will for sure pull up chat GPT and be like, what do you think about this weird situation that happened to me? Or if I feel like...
00:11:51
Speaker
you know I need like and a second opinion, quote unquote, but I don't want to talk about it with my friends because I know on a subconscious and conscious level that I shouldn't even be talking about this or like it not in a should or shouldn't way, but like I already know the information myself.
00:12:09
Speaker
I'm avoiding accepting it, so I'm seeking a different answer. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I can see how it would probably give you maybe a different perspective yeah on things. And I can see how it if you know how to use it, especially, I you guess, like for business purposes, too.
AI's Impact on Jobs and Industries
00:12:30
Speaker
It's a very helpful tool. You know, you can create prompts and it can help. I even like I use it for our own podcast. Oh, for sure. Right. Like our social media. Please give me ideas for social media content that's related to blah, blah, blah. And it gives you like a a lot of great ideas that you can kind of run with it. It's like an idea generator. is i mean, it's great for it's great for.
00:12:56
Speaker
creating content it's great for business it's there's so many good positive things about it like there is like I don't know enough about like the AI farms but I know it's like terrible for the environment so I just want to call that out but like I'm not educated enough in that space but like a few of my friends are becoming more and more educated and so they're boycotting using like AI and like chat GPT which is like honestly like at this point ChatGPT is so embedded in everyone's lives, everyone's workflows. Like my company has a business account like for ChatGPT. It's like it's just become a thing where people are relying on it so that it simplifies thinking. I know that's like terrible, but like people are like, i don't even have time to think about it. And like, I don't know.
00:13:44
Speaker
So they you go to chat GPT and it's become a ah pattern. And it's like this this tool that is all about pattern recognition is picking up on your patterns. And if your pattern is, maybe it's like ask yourself, like when you are seeking answers, are you so seeking chat GPT and looking externally or, you know, whatever AI tool or are you able to stop and look within yourself and, you know, search inside of yourself. I know like Google actually does like a workshop called Search Inside of Yourself. And then meditation is, it's all based on like mindfulness practice and like asking yourself. And that was all about the psychic horizon way of like asking yourself these questions. And I think like when people are avoiding the answer or they already know the answer, they want a different outcome, they want a different answer. Yeah.
00:14:35
Speaker
Or a lot of people, they don't trust themselves. Yeah. Yeah. That's the thing too. They don't trust their own information or they override that and they think, oh, it is so just, it's just silly me or it's like my anxiety talking. So they excuse that information. Yeah. And well, there's a lot of talk about AI also taking over people's jobs and the so a lot of jobs that are already being eliminated because it can be done by AI. And so there's a lot of talk about that, that, yeah, there's no, there's, there's only going to be like this AI robot. So people are pretty dramatic, I think. I mean, there I don't know if they'll ever be
00:15:25
Speaker
a reality or become a reality. And I mean, it is part of our lives. There's no denying into that. I think that if it is used in a way where it can bring a lot of benefit, and I've seen it like, especially in the medical industry.
00:15:41
Speaker
oh yeah. It has bring a lot of, it brings improvement. It brings a lot of different solutions to problems that we haven't resolved it or found the solution yet. And that is a great use of this tool.
00:15:55
Speaker
Totally. My Aunt Terry, I saw her yesterday. She's getting knee surgery like in two weeks and it's going done by robot. Wow. It's like outpatient. It's it's not outpatient, but it's like ah they go. The little robot goes in and like you have a doctor supervising the robot.
00:16:13
Speaker
Right. I don't know how involved the doctor actually is in terms of like the physical labor of like fixing the kneecap or whatever, whatever. So. interesting yeah right and and there are cases like that that and that's what evolution brings right that's where we are and that's where we're in the technology revolution right now and like oh yes and this is all things we're still learning and we're still growing with it and evolving I think this new generation as well also will be a lot more knowledgeable in this they will grow up with it they will probably find ways to kind of work around with all these tools and I you know I don't know if it's
00:17:02
Speaker
people see a lot of people see this in a very negative way, you know, that's going to be bad. But there are a lot of things that robots cannot do it that humans do.
00:17:13
Speaker
Right. And that's like, it's a fact. I mean, i would say love. Yeah, there's no, I mean, and again, it doesn't have emotions. Like, for example, I work with childcare during the day. right. No one is going to do that. Like, there's affection and care here and the you know, and everything that you need to take care of a child. There's no tool. Yeah. robot they couldo that do that. Right, like kids need attention, affection, like, you know, a physical supervision and a robot's not going to be able to replace that. No, not at all. And I think because this, all of this has been so like in our faces and just so present, I also see it, I don't know, maybe it's like the energy out of this year or two. What I see, it's like a lot of, and I can speak from my own experience, that it's like pulling away from all this technology. and And I've been trying, and the word is trying, make a very conscious choice of not spending a lot of time on my phone.
Mindfulness in the Age of Technology
00:18:24
Speaker
I love that. i you know and i'm goingnna in And I'm going to be very honest, it's hard. It is hard. It's hard because it's almost like it's an extension from our arms. Like it's it's within reach.
00:18:37
Speaker
And it's like the first reaction that you have, whatever you are, you're sitting down, the first thing you're going to do, you're like, you're going to scroll, right? You're lying. You're the grossest, like whatever. yeah it just It is an addiction, right? It becomes habitual.
00:18:51
Speaker
So what I've been doing is like, and I would just either put it on do not disturb for like a good hour and I'll intentionally, I will not touch my phone.
00:19:05
Speaker
Unless if it's just to check if there's a message, right? Like someone texted me, but... And again, like, I, and sometimes, like, I'll just catch myself, gosh, like, I just spent, like, three hours scrolling.
00:19:17
Speaker
I know, i know. And then I'll look at the clock and it's, what happened? Yeah, if only Uber or, like, a a rideshare could go on a manual phone. Like, i i I see people getting flip phones again, and, like, it's, like, the Gen Z way, like, in a nostalgic way, or, like, Gen Alpha, or like, the late Gen Alphas who have phones. And I think that's, like,
00:19:40
Speaker
It's like bringing back the time where we just needed a phone in case we got like a flat tire on the side of the road. Like and then that's like what I would ideally use a phone for. But I always catch myself going to Instagram and TikTok. TikTok was...
00:19:55
Speaker
different thing because But like, especially Instagram, because it doesn't require noise. So if I don't have my headphones, like I can still automatically pull up Instagram. But my hypnotherapist, Jaina, I'm in a hypnotherapy program called Magnetic Queen. And it's been really, really great the past couple weeks, especially. And we met three times. We usually meet like once a week for coaching and then once a month for like a hypnotherapy group session. And we have like the asynchronous chat. And so she had told me, put your phone on grayscale.
00:20:28
Speaker
So if you put your phone, so like right now it's color in color. I lasted two days because i felt nothing. like And I realized like, oh that's how addicted our brains are. But if you go to accessibility in your settings and then you go to display and text and then you scroll down to color filters, right now they're off. So you like get to this point And then I had it on red and red will like simulate like nighttime. But if you put it on grayscale, like I'm going to pull up Instagram right now and
00:21:03
Speaker
Does that give you dopamine? No. Well, because it's not stimulating. Yeah, I love this person, May, like the month. She's great for like estrells. Yeah. ah but well like it And again, that's like there's two sides of it. There are parts of it that i love. you know There's the aspects of being connected to people at some level.
00:21:25
Speaker
Right. But I think because we're so bombarded, with all this technology tools and social media and all in that, kind of like trying to keep up with all of that.
00:21:37
Speaker
Yes. It's the human body is not designed. No, I receive all this information and this blue light, like right on our faces. literally i go into overload, like overstimulated, like but crispy. And I think burnout is such a thing i mean everyone's experiencing burnout brand's been a hot topic in the workplace but i think people are like kind of burnt out on life and like well yeah because it's this overload of information and and the end of the day you yeah exactly you're overwhelmed yeah and if you don't find ways to de-stress recharge you're just gonna carry that with you Totally. And like, even I find like, from the it's interesting, I had like a two days of the grayscale, I just turned it back on because I'm like, Oh, yeah, I need like, I still see my cute cats. But like, I had Lisa Frankify them speaking of chat GBT. Like, there was a prompt of like, Lisa Frankify, but you have to do like, do a Lisa Frank style illustration and then you add a photo. And so I did my cats. But like then they caught on to me. you can't do too many or else there's going to be like a legal like, you know, thing ah because it's like copyright infringement.
00:22:53
Speaker
So like Lisa Frank's cracking down. But ah just like The Grayscale has helped. And i noticed for those two days that I didn't have the desire to go on my phone in like a dopamine
Social Media and Validation-Seeking Behaviors
00:23:08
Speaker
seeking way. i still went on it in like ah my body. So used to opening up the app.
00:23:14
Speaker
Like it's like, and matter and it's all of us. It's almost, it's almost on a subconscious level. It doesn't matter where you are. you're always going to see people you're hunched over and you're like, and you just like scrolling and just kind of navigating through all these different apps and opening like the probably the same apps over and over. Yeah.
00:23:34
Speaker
And, uh, and it's an addiction in a way. totally It just becomes, ah it becomes a pattern. Yeah. And it's like people need like I think it's like, you know, these tech executives and like even goes beyond that. And this is getting a little conspiratorial, but like everything relates back to capitalism because like Instagram has become like ah a market basically for ads. And then same with TikTok shop, like that's a way for people to make money and sell. And like I think it's great for people who have disabilities and can't work from or or differently abled, excuse my language, but who can't work from a traditional place where so they they do the affiliated marketing thing and they make money. And I think there's been so many cool opportunities created for that for like the human being who typically can't go with like the traditional nine to five or maybe they live out in a rural area so i'm not discrediting that at all but it's like the consumerism like addiction the addiction of buying and then also seeing what other people have and it's like that it taps into like that external validation and like yeah
00:24:41
Speaker
And it becomes almost like your compass for day-to-day. And yeah, it becomes the fix. You need to have some of that. You need to have either the hit of dopamine or whatever it is that you use, you know, your phone. Keeping up with other people. Social media. Maybe you use it, I don't know, because you need promote yourself and need to seek validation from others. Right, right. is It's an external hit of something. It's getting like some type of validation in some external way. Yeah. it's like yeah And i think there is I think people are kind of starting to realize that more and more. and I love that we are starting to become more aware that we, as humans, we crave human connection. Oh, absolutely. And this is what we're wired for. And this is why your soul, our souls, they came is to experience the human connection and be human here. Yeah. And have this physical body.
00:25:47
Speaker
really therefore, we need the human experiences. Yeah. Like sharing a laugh with someone over something you both find funny. It's like you can't replace that feeling. Exactly. Like creating your community of people.
00:26:04
Speaker
having experiences interactions where you don't need your phone. Oh, yeah. What a world it would be if we didn't need our people. It would be kind of like, know, but this is kind of how we live back in the 80s and 90s. I know. I know. I know. I mean, these were different times. More people got murdered, but... I mean, they did, but we kind of... But then we didn't have a lot of resources, right? Like around like...
00:26:34
Speaker
things like that but it was just like a different time and i know that like on social media i see like this trends of like comparing 2026 to 2016 people like posting like the before and after and i'm like well i mean it's i think it's good to like kind of reminisce like 26 i try to say i kind of started There's part of me that cringes, but there is, I think it's it's kind of the positive aspect of it is that you can see how far you've come.
00:27:06
Speaker
Yeah. How much you've learned, how much you've grown. Like, I am not going to posting my 2016 pictures because, yikes like
Balancing Technology and Human Connection
00:27:14
Speaker
the end of the business casual going out in the club type of yeah it's you know it was a it was a time but then you like and people like oh i wish 2016 would come back i'm like no you don't want that oh no no i maybe 2012 2013 like let's talk about pre pre pre Well, I feel it's great to look at your past as a source of information. Yeah. And just to kind of help you move forward with life, but not be like the deciding factor of all in all and a knowledge like, you know, if this is.
00:27:52
Speaker
all ah and all the lessons I've learned, how much I've grown, and just look at how, you know, yeah yeah how much you've evolved as a person. But I just, I find it like really interesting, like how people are just very nostalgic of the old times. And then when we didn't have all these tools, well, I think it's about like finding the balance between using those tools in a more grounded way, yeah but also making an intentional um
00:28:23
Speaker
movement to reconnect with what really matters in life. yeah With your day-to-day connection, people in your life, and creating experiences that promote more of that. Instead of me just like, ah, complaining about it, right? It can be like, it's a both-ander.
Trusting Intuition Over AI
00:28:43
Speaker
And it's like, well, AI is here.
00:28:46
Speaker
It's like... Yeah, there's no denying to that. And please don't use that as a psychic tool. If you get anything from this conversation, please don't use that to make... like decisions that no don't trust it's like remember to trust yourself and like if you if you are one of those people that needs that sense of external validation maybe this is a sign of like if you're resonating with that piece of it like maybe this is what you needed to hear and take from it like you don't need that external validation just listen yourself You have that information within yourself. And I hope this episode was helpful and fun.
00:29:24
Speaker
And share with us what you think of all these AI tools and all this technology around us. But we'll see you on our next episode. Thank you so much for listening.
00:29:35
Speaker
Thank you. Bye.