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Episode 022 - My Weiner Has a First Name
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EPISODE 22: Welcome to the Two Oceans podcast where myself Siouxfire along with my friend and knowing colleague Scrumpy discuss film and other media through a decades long lens of mass media consumption. In this episode, we ruminate on the 2023 Oscars results. This is The Two Oceans Podcast so do something unlikely and join us in the janitor's closet as we begin episode 22...
In this episode we ruminate on the 2023 Oscars results.
CREDITS:
Intro clip from the Daniels' "Everything Everywhere All At Once" (2022) from IAC Films, Gozie AGBO, Year of the Rat, Ley Line Entertainment, distributed by A24
Opening music: https://pixabay.com/music/id-116199/
Closing music: https://pixabay.com/music/id-11176/
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Introduction and Setup
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Mysterious Warning and Choices
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Oscars 2023 Overview
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Welcome to the Two Oceans podcast, where myself, Sue Fire, along with my friend and knowing colleague, Scrumby, discuss film and other media through a decades-long lens of mass media consumption. In this episode, we ruminate on the 2023 Oscar results. This is the Two Oceans podcast, so do something unlikely and join us in the janitor's closet as we begin episode 22.
Reactions to Winners and Surprises
00:01:45
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technology has got us again this week. But we've had the Oscars. But we did. What do you think? I didn't. I've only pretty much seen the results. So I've been all over the place this week. When to go see Mark Kermode at the BFI.
00:02:03
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It's very late. Yeah. When like three o'clock in the morning, you're tired or something? Exactly. Exactly. And when I went to the Mark Kermode event, the first thing you asked the audience was, uh, you know, did you watch the Oscars afterwards? Maybe half the audience were like, yeah. And he was like, really? Really?
00:02:22
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Uh, but he played a few choice bits from the acceptance speeches, some of the nicer bits, you know, uh, keys, acceptance speech.
Significant Wins and Thank Yous
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What else did we have on that? I mean, am I right in thinking that everything everywhere all at once now has the biggest Oscar haul ever? Oh, that's a good question. It had a bunch. I don't know if that was ever.
00:02:47
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Yeah, someone mentioned that to me before and said, well, it got more than Titanic. And I was like, well, that's good. Well, I guess it's a better movie than Titanic. It absolutely is. It was nice to see that Jamie Lee Curtis was thanking the genre fans from horror who supported her all over all these years.
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So I'm thinking the format of this is we can kind of work our way through the list of results and give her, give her takes on them. Cool.
Animated Features Analysis
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Yeah. Sounds good to me. So, uh, first up, uh, we've got the best animated feature. And on that we had nominations for turning red, uh, which I enjoyed the sea beast, which is one I want to see, but I've not seen yet.
00:03:36
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Um, Puss in Boots, The Last Wish, uh, Marcel, the shell with shoes on, and the winner was Guillermo del Toro's, uh, Pinocchio. Which, yeah, which I think should've won. Yes. And again, it's a feat of the engineering as much as anything else, which. Yeah. It had a little bit more heft to it. I don't think for any of this picture. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Technically, lamping would do. Yeah.
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Great. I just got to say technically, politically, you know, it had a little bit more weight than the rest of them. Though, you know, I'm happy with the rest of the films. Like I said, I haven't seen the Seabeast, but, uh, Marcel, Puss in Boots, Turning Red, you know, I enjoyed all those movies. Um, and Seabeast looks good. Did you see that by the way? I did not. I want to.
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for everything.
Release Timing and Controversies
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I'd say it has something to the wife about the category. It's like the year when finally Pixar releases its best movie in a while, but they release it against Pinocchio. Right, right.
00:04:48
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It got a little bit snubbed as well because there was all that faux controversy around it, which was silly. And then obviously you have a few actors in turning red who were in everything everywhere all at once as well. Oh, right. Yeah. So good for agents. Yeah. Americans. I always found it a little bit odd that
Supporting Actor Highlights
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where sell the shell with shoes on. I, you know, I love the movie, but, and I know that's got animated bits in it, but it feels a little strange to be putting it into that category. Um, because you were talking about, you know, uh, del Toro's Pinocchio.
00:05:29
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Um, part of the reason that you're, you're, you're glad about that. And so am I, is the technical craft that went into it. Uh, and I think that's always like a part of the selection for best animated feature and not to belittle the animation in the film because it's good. Um, but most of it's live action.
00:05:56
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Right. Yeah. Right. Yeah. The animation aspect of it is subtle. It's there. It's more to, you know, Del Toro's point about the animation is filmmaking, you know, period. Right. Right.
Acting Wins and Snubs
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But, so at least they recognize that. But yeah, it's also when everything is, you know, completely in the control versus the live action.
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Right, right. You can make a similar sort of argument in terms of, well, you know, if that is considered, you know, an animated feature, then, you know, Harryhausen's work, Jurassic Park, certainly the original one, you'd consider animation as well.
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Um, right. So we move on to the next category, uh, best supporting actor. So we had, uh, Brendan Gleason for band. She's of an issue and, uh, Brian Tyree Henry for causeway, which I didn't see, uh, Judd Hirsch, uh, for the Fableman's, uh, uh, beer Barry. Oh God. I don't, don't make me pronounce this surname.
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uh, Banshees Vineshiran and, and Ki Hoi Kwan, uh, who actually won for everything everywhere all at once. Did you see it this way? Well, it seemed weird. I mean, uh, uh, they were, they were good, you know, in them,
Documentaries and Impact
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uh, uh, Barry Cohen and, uh, um, Judd Hirsch, you know, they're actually really, especially Judd Hirsch and the Fablemen's integral to the story, but he has what? A scene and a half. Exactly. Like, a thousand lines.
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I mean, it's one of the things in the trailer, I thought, oh, I'm really looking forward to seeing Judge Hirsch, but, you know, I probably seen half his lines in the trailer. And then the other half of the movie, which didn't amount to a great deal. You great character.
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Um, but not quite on the level of maybe Barry or Brendan from the band. Geez, if it is sheer it, because those, those were, you could almost consider to those almost leading roles. They were just marginally kind of behind, uh, a leading role on those parts.
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Yeah, but, uh, but now, uh, uh, Juan deserves that. Like, definitely just, yeah. And then just his, his whole acceptance speech in his whole, like.
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awards time just, you know, this is that goofy, sincerity,
International Film Preferences
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gleeful, behaving the way that we would. Somebody who's honestly happy. Yeah. Being genuinely excited to see these people as well around him, you know, um, was great to see.
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Yeah. But Causeway, I mean, that's a funny one. I don't think it had a radar entirely. Well, yeah. And in just looking at some of the reviews from the movies, for the movie here, it's not got a great reception, a very sort of patchy reception as well. I mean, I'll check it out at some point, just because I've got to be that completionist. Right.
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Yeah. Yeah. That's a funny one. Um, right onto best supporting actress. Um, so we had Angela Bassett for, uh, Black Panther, Wakanda forever, uh, Hong Chow for the whale, uh, Carrie
Documentary Shorts and Viewing
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Condon for the band. She's a bit of Sheeran and Stephanie Sue for everything everywhere all at once. And Jamie Lee Curtis won it for everything everywhere all at once. Yeah.
00:09:43
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and yeah that wasn't also a long time coming like that was yeah because she really is she affiliate is great and you know he looks like supporting actresses you know supporting roles are supposed to prop up and move the the main story right so um some of the others
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Two, but in a much smaller, their amount of screen time or the role is much, much less. Yeah. You know, a lot of people were complaining about Angela Bassett not winning, but it was like, but, you know, she was in a march, you know, she was in an okay movie for one.
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Yeah. And I mean, she was supporting it. She was good. And then I mean, no knock against her, but it was like, was that really best?
Live Action Shorts Future
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I mean, best compared, especially compared to either, uh, Jimmy Lee Curtis or Stephanie shoe from the everything in correct. I don't know. You know, to be honest, I think Stephanie shoe probably deserved it over Jimmy Curtis, but Jimmy Lee Curtis has earned it, you know, over, over time. Yeah. Yeah.
00:10:45
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And similar to Angela Bassett, I think Carrie Condon, though she was really good in the band she's in asherin, she was a pretty marginal character as well.
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The only one that I would call out is Hong Chow in The Whale. Though I was a bit mixed about that movie, that performance was really
Technical Categories Critique
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good. And she was also good in the menu as well as the kind of
00:11:19
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Oh, right. Yeah, sort of Matredy, the one that sort of takes them on the tour through the island and is a little bit psychotic. But yeah, she's got a future. You know, again, sort of looking at Jamie Lee Curtis, I think Stephanie Hsu and Hong Chao, they have amazing futures ahead of them. I think they'll be rearing themselves. Yeah, totally.
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Great. Okay. Next, uh, best documentary feature. Um, this is a tricky one because as I have not seen. Many of these. Um, so we have all that breathes, um, all the beauty and the bloodshed. Um, I believe that's the movie about the pharmaceutical sponsorship of, uh, the, the Met museum in New York.
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and all the blood money that kind of went into it, and this protest that starts. I wanted to see that, haven't seen it. Then there's Fire of Love, which is a documentary about two volcanologists. It takes all their archive footage. That is the one I
Production Design Insights
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have seen on the list.
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Yeah, a really good movie. Terrible voiceover edit. That is completely unnecessary. House made of splinters. Again, not seen it. And then the winner is Navalny. I don't know if you had a chance to catch any of these.
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But Navalny is the one about... Not a one. Yeah. Yeah, right. Navalny is the one whose story that I think most people will know because it's about the poisoning with Novichok of Putin's
00:13:17
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political nemesis, you know, Navalny in the UK. So yeah, I do want to see that. But again, I don't really have too much to say on any of these movies, aside from Fire Love is great, but the
00:13:34
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The voiceover from Miranda to July has some things to be left to be desired. And the political impact of Navalny can't be understated, especially this analysis.
Original Score Debate
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Yeah. We're working on here with the illegal invasion of Ukraine, and I'm just going to say, I wish SEAL Team Six would just go and do their job, and we could all be done with this. Yeah. But that's my American short-circuit pen and pen.
00:14:07
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Yeah, I know where you're coming from. And then the other movies that we have on that list is All That Breathes. So I did see the trailer for that just this week. And it's about two Indian brothers who rescue birds that are kind of dying from pollution in India.
00:14:32
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Um, but again, that's quite small scale. You know, you're sort of talking about again, Navalny is kind of connects to the wider things that are going on in the world. Um, again, fire of love, really
Visual Effects Analysis
00:14:44
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intimate story about these, these two really interesting people. Uh, but it doesn't really have that global scale. All the beauty in the bloodshed is kind of going toward that way because of the whole.
00:14:54
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you know, uh, ethics of pharmaceutical companies. But again, that is very much kind of an American problem on the whole because things work differently there. Yeah. Um,
00:15:11
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And I just had to look this up, a house made of splinters is about an orphanage in Ukraine, actually. So I'd not seen anything about that, and I've not had an opportunity to see that yet.
00:15:29
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Um, right. Okay. The next category I think is going to be really, really difficult for us. Uh, best live action short. Uh, so we have, um, uh, the red suitcase, night ride, Le Pupil,
Original Screenplay Celebration
00:15:45
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Ivalu, and the winner was an Irish goodbye. Um, I mean, the one thing that I will say about this.
00:15:55
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is this category tends to be a bit of, um, a sneak peek on, on, on people that we will see later. Uh, like Martin McDonough, who did the Banshees of Innishiran, uh, had, it has a great, uh, live action short, which he won the Oscar for, I think, uh, in the early 2000s. Um, and if you've not seen it, it's on YouTube. Check it out. It's, it's, it's really good. And it's got Brendan Gleason in it as well.
00:16:27
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Okay. Best cinematography. So, um, I mean, this is the weird thing. So some of these nominations, you know, uh, are for films that were released in two or three cinemas. Um, haven't had the general release.
00:16:43
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And most people wouldn't have seen it, which I always find
Best Director Recognition
00:16:47
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is a little bit bizarre. So one of the nominees is Bardot, a false chronicle of a handful of truths. And I think that's Quaron's latest movie.
00:16:59
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Um, and it's kind of an abstract personal story, kind of like eight and a half ladies, eight and a half kind of thing, uh, from what I've seen in the trailer. Uh, and then we have Elvis non nominated empire of light tar and all quiet on the Western front. And I think the right film one here, I don't know what your thoughts are.
00:17:24
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out of what's there yeah out of what's here yes yes that's a good point out of what was nominated because roger deakins posted a good little uh like op-ed sort of thing of what they said the best cinematography of last year wasn't nominated because it's a superhero movie and that was the batman well absolutely yeah
00:17:46
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Which is stunning. And he's saying that from a position because he was the cinematographer for Empire of Light as well. So, you know, he's got one of the Sith films nominated in there. But again, if I were going to nominate Deakins for his work, this would probably be
00:18:12
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a lot more low-key than some of the most stunning examples of what he could do with cinematography. And tar as well, I thought was pretty good again, but it was quite low-key.
00:18:29
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Yeah. Yeah. It was good. I mean, this is good cinematography, but it's, you know, it's basically, it's okay, but it's them doing their job. Yeah. It's not, you know, right. Right. That's what happens when you don't notice it or something. Right. Yeah. But in the, you know, war movie, of
Best Picture Reflections
00:18:48
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course, they really look at a war movie. Sure.
00:18:51
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I mean, I'm glad because I think All Quiet in the Western Front really didn't get that much attention, at least in terms of the marketing push and all of this. It doesn't really have any well-known actors in it. So I'm pretty happy to see that it's getting a little bit of attention there. But yeah, out of that group, pretty happy with that. I think the Elvis, the cinematography in Elvis is fine, but it's a little bit over the top for my tastes, I think.
00:19:22
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Yeah, it's just that typical Baz Luhrmann, way too flashy. Right. Way too slick. Yeah, for a biopic, yes, yes. I think it works on some of the stuff where he just is freely admitting, this is a musical, you know, this is what I'm doing. And that works, but yeah, here it was, yeah, didn't quite click with me.
00:19:45
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Um, best makeup and hair. So we've got all quiet in the Western front again, uh, nominated, uh, the Batman black Panther Wakanda forever Elvis. And the winner is the whale. I, I, I, and, and this is one, this is not a category that I would usually have, you know, a lot of feelings on, but I'm not sure about this. I think, um,
00:20:17
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I mean, I still haven't seen Wakanda forever yet, Nolan. It's just one of those. It's a longer movie, so I try to limit it during the weeknights as to what films I've watched. So that just keeps getting sort of bumped.
00:20:38
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But what are your thoughts on this one? What films do you think might sell? My biggest problem that comes up with it is, and it's what, three? It's Elvis. Two people in Elvis getting into fat suits and writing a third. But, you know, it's also, you know, it's like, are there not huge actors that could do it? Well, maybe not, maybe, maybe not.
00:21:02
Speaker
It's a problematic thing. Absolutely, yeah. It's well done, but again, what are you doing? What are you doing over there? But the makeup and hair on that I would say is a one-trick pony.
00:21:14
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on the whale, on the winner, I would say it's a one-trick pony there. And it's not kind of a general, you know, across-the-movie piece of work that you might see on other things. And it's, yeah, it doesn't sit real comfortably
00:21:38
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here. I'm not really bothered about the makeup and the rest as well, you know, anything from all quiet in the western front of the Batman.
00:21:49
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Actually, that's another thing. It's funny because part of the cinematography for the Batman, you know, the use of like dirty lenses, like actually dirty lenses instead of like digitally adding at the end, for me is almost like a kind of makeup that they put into that film. But yeah. So that's another one. They also have a fat suit. That was the other one.
00:22:16
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Oh, that's true. That's true. The calling feral. Yeah. Yeah. Um, but yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't think there's anything that sort of stands out here. I'm trying to think of like, I'd have to go back through the history of, uh, best makeup and hair to see what the, uh, right. Yeah. Yeah. That might be kind of an interesting one to do. Little fiddle out of our regular of.
00:22:45
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. And the one person I've known in the industry was actually doing makeup and hair. But yet I come away knowing very little. Right. The next one. Well done. Thank you. Thank you. Best costume design. And the nominees on this one are Babylon, Elvis, everything, everywhere, all at once.
00:23:13
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Mrs. Harris goes to Paris and the winner was Black Panther Wakanda Forever, which I think is a decent choice. Yeah, pretty much a no-brainer on that. Right. I mean, the others are good, but not like we're, you know, and it's a thing. It's like, you know, kind of like somebody winning a Best Actor Oscar for doing an impersonation. Right.
00:23:38
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of someone famous versus someone coming up with something original. You know, if you're recreating stuff from the twenties or something like that, yeah, a lot of work and you could do it really well, but you're just recreating something that was in existence. Yeah. Creating something brand new. Oh, totally gets you on that.
00:23:54
Speaker
And I'm judging this just from what I've seen in the trailer, you know, just really kind of rich and vibrant and from the first movie as well. Just being very impressed with that. Actually, it's interesting going back to the makeup and hair. That's one of the few categories where everything everywhere all at once didn't get a nomination.
00:24:15
Speaker
Um, but the more I think about it, there were, there were amazing, um, amounts of, of, of hair and makeup and that because there were umpteen versions of every character. Um, you had that amazing transformation of Jamie Lee Curtis practically being unrecognizable in the character that she was.
00:24:41
Speaker
And it wasn't a fat suit. It was just the way the other shoes dressed and the hair and makeup that that made, transformed her into that character and her performance, of course. So anyhow, anyhow.
00:24:58
Speaker
Right. Best international film. This is always a weird category for the Oscars because it's always really homogenized, especially as someone that lives overseas. And we tend to get quite a few international movies or non-English movies in particular. So these feel quite limited.
00:25:26
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And you could almost predict the ones that they're going to be submitted. Um, so the nominees were Argentina in 1985, which was, uh, actually I've seen all the movies in this category. Um, Argentina, 1985, that was, um, that about the whole sort of.
00:25:44
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a trial, uh, around this sort of Pinochet stuff. And yeah, that was really good. Uh, close, which I've only just seen recently. Um, which, which is about these two boys, whoever, a really close friendship. And it kind of starts getting turned upside down when they, they have to go to high school and people think that there are a couple because they've been so close. They've been in, in like, you know,
00:26:14
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friends since since early childhood and they're kind of confronted with with this and it it's a good movie. It's a really good movie. EO, which is basically a story about a donkey that escapes the circus and goes across Poland and the quiet girl from Ireland, which is amazing. And then the winner was All Quiet on the Western Front.
00:26:40
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which I'm not sure. I think when we were doing our lists, I put All Quiet at the Western Front quite high, but among what we have listed here, I would have gone for The Quiet Girl
00:26:58
Speaker
and possibly close among those two. Even though the Quiet Girls Irish film, it is in the Irish language, so it is a foreign language movie. But yeah. I mean, these are all good movies, actually, in my mind. So that's good. That's good.
00:27:17
Speaker
Nothing that I'm offended has made the list. Okay, we're not going to do great here, I'm afraid. The best documentary short. Elephant Whispers, Haul Out, How Do You Measure a Year, The Martha Mitchell Effect, and Stranger at the Gate, and the winner is The Elephant Whispers. Do you know what I wish they would do with these shorts is actually
00:27:48
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edit them into an anthology so people actually watch them, you know, watch all of them. Um, because, uh, yeah, that would be good. That would be a lot easier. It'd be easier to keep up with these things as well. Um, and the same thing with the next category, best animated short.
00:28:08
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Um, which, which we, I think we've talked about one of the nominees was my year of dicks. Um, one with the list first came out. Um, and then there was an ostrich told me the world is fake. And I think I believe it. Uh, these are just great titles. Ice merchants, the flying sailor, and the winner, uh, is, uh, the boy, the mole.
00:28:34
Speaker
the fox and the horse. And I actually saw the trailer for this for the first time today and it looks amazing. It looks really good.
00:28:43
Speaker
So yeah, I would assume you would have made, cause it's British and all the British actors that are, you know, A-listers that voiced in it. Yeah. Apparently it's a book, a children's book. Yeah. And I didn't realize that. You got an old book or something. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, okay. I mean, I just assumed you would have been like, no, all over it. Yeah. Yeah. No, I did. It completely came out of nowhere on this one. Um, so I think it is probably like a small
00:29:09
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Yes, yeah. It's probably some small studio that's created it. But I mean, yeah, the trailer, I mean, what I found striking about it is not just the animation, but like the tone of it is, it seems very, very positive and wise. And
00:29:27
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Yeah, I'm quite interested to, to, to, to check that one out. Um, right onto the next category, we got best production design and the nominees are the Fablebins, Elvis, Babylon, Avatar, the way of water and the winner, uh, all quiet on the Western front.
00:29:51
Speaker
Yeah, that one's always a tough one because they're all pretty, I mean, they all have to be really good, you know? Yeah. So yeah, and that's, that was that thing, you know, you think about the Academy voters too, like, you know, I don't know, I don't, I don't know what this thing means. So that one looked old, the war movie, I'm sure it was great, you know? I mean, the funny- Which again, no disservice to who were the winner. Yeah. So it's kind of ambiguous.
00:30:18
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Yeah, no, it is. I mean, I think from my point of view in terms of my tastes is I appreciate the production design, but it needs to feel natural, you know, like it shouldn't like jump in your face. So a good example is, well, so all quiet in the Western front, at no point did I even consider the production.
00:30:47
Speaker
I just immersed in it. It was fine. Whereas the Fablemans, though the detail was all very, very good, there was something about it that felt a bit too manicured. Do you know what I mean? Like, those were very sort of deliberate sets. And that's not even a bad thing because Kubrick did that, you know, to the nth degree. But I think paired with the cinematography, it worked better.
00:31:16
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Um, do you know what I mean? So it's just something about the fablemans came across as a little odd. Like there, there is a point where, um, the way it sort of flips between real locations and then like staged locations. Sometimes like there's a, they have a picnic out in, and for whatever reason, they didn't do it on location. He can tell it was just, yeah, really distracted me. And the same thing with Elvis, Elvis does that too.
00:31:46
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and then Avatar the Way of Water. Is it production design? No, because it's entirely design.
00:31:56
Speaker
True. Yeah. But then I mean, well, like something like Dune though, the production design there was done in a way where they actually had to consider like, okay, if you lived in a world where this existed, what would it look like? Practically, how would it work?
00:32:21
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And I think there was a lot more consideration in it, and that was something completely made up that I felt like you got sand under your nails watching that movie just the way that they did it. Yeah, that's a funny category. It'd be interesting to see what the guidance is that they get on these categories when voting.
00:32:43
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Um, actually when I used to work for an Academy member, um, they get, they used to get, I'm sure it's all digital now, but they used to get a bunch of, uh, DVDs sent to them with expectation that they had to watch.
00:33:01
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all of the nominees, of which there were hundreds. And, you know, I'm not convinced they all watch all of them, you know, which is why they have this advertising to say, hey, you know, we sent you these, watch mine before you watch this other one, because, you know, the others probably aren't going to win.
00:33:24
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So it's a weird, weird, weird, weird system. Um, right. Best original score. By the way, can I, I'm going to just jump out for a moment here from, from the, the Oscars discussion. But did you see the bad batch? Um, episode 12, I think with crosshair.
00:33:49
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Yes. That had amazing music. That had incredible music. I watched it twice. Second time was just to kind of savor the music in it, but it was really, really good. And it just completely did the best thing for any of this Star Wars stuff that's gone out there is that
00:34:13
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It didn't try to mimic John Williams. It created something new. And I think the same thing with, like, Mandalorian having that new sound brought it up a notch. You know, it just said, right, this is something else. Anyhow, back to best original story. So our nominees are Babylon, the Banshees of Anishiran,
00:34:36
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everything everywhere all at once, the fablemans and the winner was all quiet on the Western front, which is the one I remember the most because, but, but I don't remember it being that complex. I remember there being those, those, that almost siren like tone that just kept hammering out like the, you know, the, the chimes of a clock. Um, but
00:35:10
Speaker
Eh, you know, there's several, like, some of them that hadn't, you know, the scanning. All quite, it's the only one we did not see before the Oscars had a chance to catch it yet. So, you know, the score, you know, my only problem with it is, you know, they'll do the, uh, yeah, that's like the best original song too, where they do the same thing. Well, the reward, the ones like, you know, again, as much as I love John Williams and also he tells you exactly how to feel.
00:35:32
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know. What are your thoughts on that one?
00:35:36
Speaker
Ron, I hate that. Right. That really annoys me. He didn't used to, but since probably about mid-80s onwards, that's all he's done. Yeah. So they're like, okay, that's a good soundtrack. I'm like, well, is it? When it's so obvious, when it's so blatant, anytime I like that. Right. It almost feels forced or like, see, we're controlling, we control the horizontal vertical.
00:36:05
Speaker
Okay, the outer limits. Okay, there you go. But I don't know, that idea, it's like, I like something that's sparse and different, like the soundtrack to Rokonopio. I thought that wasn't standing, because the songs were not normal music kind of songs, or definitely not normal Hollywood musical kind of songs. So, you know, I was like, why not go for, you know, reward, something like that, that's actually
00:36:32
Speaker
or more innovative and try to create something new. Okay, well, I think in that, that description applies to All Quiet on the Western Front, because it is very hands-off. Okay. There is like a...
00:36:49
Speaker
a bit of a riff that drops in every so often, but isn't intrusive, doesn't tell you what you're meant to feel, but it just kind of adds a bit of ominousness. It's almost like a musical thunderclap where, you know, a storm is kind of, you know...
00:37:08
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Uh, but it's very sparse, super sparse. Um, so I'm, I'm a little surprised that it managed to win on this one. And then, I mean, in the other thing is a lot of soundtracks can.
00:37:27
Speaker
be very generic. Do you know what I mean? And you sort of talk about John Williams as well. And I think there are a lot of composers that follow that lead and they don't even do it quite as well as he did either. And it becomes a sort of almost washed out kind of background noise, you know. Yeah.
00:37:54
Speaker
Right. Um, next category, best visual effects. And we have as nominees, uh, Top Gun Maverick, Black Panther, Wakanda Forever, uh, the Batman, uh, All Quiet on the Western Front and the winner, Avatar, The Way of Water.
00:38:14
Speaker
Um, sure. Yeah. Well, you see, this is one I don't think will stand up over time. I think this will date very quickly.
00:38:27
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know. But it is, for its date and time, you look at the category and it's looking at things that kind of move the goal posts. And it definitely does that. I mean, that's what they set out to do. That's what they did. That's about all they did, in my opinion. But they did accomplish that. And that's putting the technology to its fullest use. The one thing, the other way thing to me,
00:39:00
Speaker
But Sigourney Weaver playing her daughter, playing her teenage daughter, but she did all the mocap for it. Yeah. And they were able to take that and make this whole other person, but that is her, but it's not, you know, that was like impressive.
00:39:14
Speaker
No, and you could tell the people that were there. It's thinning the veil a bit while also expanding some of the others. I mean, this is a category where I would have liked to have seen everything everywhere win.
00:39:33
Speaker
And it's not even nominated. Um, just because also my winner. Yeah. For it would have been not a movie, but just the Batmobile from the Batman rights. Just that actually don't ask. Hey, do you know what? It was, it was the best character of last year. Okay. Well, well, let's, let's drop back to a couple of categories behind best production design. The Batman.
00:40:01
Speaker
Easily. Um, because as, as, as, as all the facets that you want in, in production design, because it's, it's the whole creating a world, you know, it has mixed costumes. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Uh, the, the vehicles that they had to make, they,
00:40:21
Speaker
Well, and this version of the character's story is where it's all, you know, it's clear he's done all this. You know, it's so clear, it's so, like, straight level. Yeah. Which is what that, you know, that first early Batman, basically, we'll call it, to me, is. And so, you know, rather than finding a cave, it's like, oh, and this used subway station. Right. Yeah. And then it would have access, you know, there would be secret access to it. Perfect.
00:40:51
Speaker
Right. Um, you know, everything looks like he built that rather than there was always that thing of like, okay, so there's these contractors, I guess they just build layers. Yeah. And then he kills them or wipes their mind. So, but yeah, between that and again, the Batmobile itself. Right. I mean, the way they, Oh, yeah, it's just an amazing, amazingly well-handled far better than it deserved to be.
00:41:18
Speaker
Mm-hmm. Totally. But but absolutely showing what it should have gotten a lot, you know? Uh, nobody's like, but it's just a car. I'm like, it's not just a car. Oh my god. Yes. So, but yeah, overall, you know, and then the thing like where he has his mask off.
00:41:39
Speaker
And he's got the, you know, the, the, the makeup is under his eyes that he hasn't put there. Yeah. The mask is all smudged. Yeah. And you know, his hair is a mess. It's just like, yeah, that's, this is how it would be. Again, that keeps that he little grock street level. Urban. He looks like he's come back from a hard day at work or hard night at work. Um, you know, and it wouldn't be easy, would it? Um, and yeah, yeah.
00:42:08
Speaker
Yeah, I completely agree. The only other thing on the best visual effects, so the choice that I had here was everything everywhere just because, and I expect that part of the reason that it wasn't nominated here is they were three
00:42:23
Speaker
essentially relative amateurs. Three people did all the special effects. They had at almost no budget and they needed to be extremely creative in what they did in creating this multiverse. And they stood toe to toe with Disney and Marvel and, you know, completely blew them out of the water.
00:42:47
Speaker
And, uh, yeah, I, I, I just thinking being forced to be inventive because as much as I respect what, um, you know, was done with avatar, um, that was an endless pool of, of, of money there. And, and I, I think even the published costs of that movie, I kind of side-eye a little bit. I think it's, it's been in production for a long time and it's had some rich backers and it, it, that has not been an issue for it. Yeah.
00:43:17
Speaker
Um, cool. Uh, on to the next category, best original screenplay. Uh, the nominees were the Banshees of Innis Sheeran, the Bevelmans, tar, uh, triangle of sadness. Sorry, it should be more neutral. Uh, but, um, uh, and then, uh, but the winner was, uh, everything everywhere a little at once. So, which I think is, yeah, yeah, good.
00:43:47
Speaker
If, uh, yeah, totally. Yeah. I'm there too. Um, triangle sadness though. Again, I give that it's, it's, it's, it's, it's another one of those earlier with the criteria release of it. When it's like, again, I'm, I'm, I'm convinced it is the emperor's new clothes. I am not going, nobody is willing to admit
00:44:10
Speaker
Yeah. Well, and it sucks. Well, this, I mean, it's still good. It's still worth watching. But don't expect it to deliver on what it's trying to bring. Right. Right. I'm not going to get gaslighted into thinking this is a great movie. Do you know what I mean? I think it's, and I quite like the director. I think he's really, really talented and I think he's done some great stuff. And even like we talked about the first 10 minutes of this movie, promising so much.
00:44:39
Speaker
and then just dropping off a cliff. So whoops. Yeah. Um, right. Uh, best adapted screenplay. So the nominees on this one were all quiet in the Western front. Uh, glass onion and knives out mystery. Is that an adapted screenplay? Really?
00:45:00
Speaker
Okay. Um, it is because they qualify it because there were, it was based on characters already created. I see. No, because it's a sequel. It's like Top Gun Maverick, the same thing. It was an adapted screenplay because it was based on a previous film. Understood. Understood. Or characters. So, so yes, then Top Gun Maverick was nominated, uh, Living, um, which was the remake of Akira and, uh, Women Talking was the winner.
00:45:32
Speaker
Absolutely should have been yeah, which which I think out of that was that was the we watched that was the last one we we watched
00:45:41
Speaker
That was the last one watch on the Saturday night, but in the night before the Oscars and and Part of me was like why isn't this up for best picture coming? Yes, this is it's tough but and In terms of best picture, you know, we'll talk about this, but basically It absolutely deserves something at least this yeah Award, you know something out of it so I
00:46:08
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. I was blown away how good it was, but thinking about what you had said when you reverted after you'd watched it a while ago and being more like a play, which it is. Yeah. Which hinders it in terms of some filmic language, but not in terms of language. Language. Yeah. And just how well done it was. It impressed me how
00:46:37
Speaker
how much they got into that. I, you know, I mean, in one of the things that surprises me on that is not having any nominations on there, you know, for, for, for, for, you know, Jesse Buckley or, uh, Rooney Mara or Ben Wischoff was very good in it as well. Ben Wischoff, yeah. Um... It'd be weird to dominate the one dude from... It would be weird. I'd be in the wind, say.
00:47:06
Speaker
But this is the thing, because I think not having multiple nominations for the supporting actor that bit, because that was just a smorgasbord of great supporting actor roles and bigger than some of the ones that have been nominated. I think they're all pretty crucial to the story.
00:47:31
Speaker
Uh, right. Uh, crack it along. Best sound. Um, uh, the nominees were All Quiet on the Western Front, Avatar, The Way of Water, The Batman, Elvis, and the winner Top Gun Maverick, which I, I think is correct. Yeah. Yeah.
00:47:51
Speaker
like that, yeah, they really nailed that. You really feel like you're in that, you know. So, yeah, I had no problem with that. I'm like, oh yeah, that makes sense. Well, yeah, I'm a little surprised as the Avatar, the way of water got a nomination on there. And I know that it used various things like your multi-point sound and all of this, which you can only appreciate if you're in the right environment.
00:48:17
Speaker
It's more the above the line technical award. So you're not one of the few they give out during this? Fair money, not the technical award ceremony. It makes sense that you would get nominated for that. Oh yeah, it's a technical achievement therefore. Right.
00:48:34
Speaker
But I think Maverick is a good example of where the actual visual effect is 20% and the sound is 80%, and it's the sound that sells it.
00:48:51
Speaker
And Avatar is completely the other way around. In fact, you probably got 95% visual and then you got 5% audio. And I think they could have probably done a lot more in that movie to focus on the sound, to really sell...
00:49:07
Speaker
the effects that you're looking at, you know, um, yeah, you know what I'm getting at. I mean, I think it's the same thing with like Jurassic Park, you know, really selling that, that there's something in there from the tapping of the claws on the floor to, you know, all that stuff.
00:49:25
Speaker
just starts convincing you that, that it's not CG you're looking at. And I think that's part of the problem that I have, like, after it, it's, it's too disconnected. It's all, it's all like a floaty balloon to me, but yeah. Uh, best original song. Um, okay. Uh, not, so to me it was no question.
00:49:45
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. So we had applause. 101 was like, no question. Yeah. Tell it like a woman, hold my hand, Top Gun Maverick, lift me up, Black Panther, Wakanda forever. This is a life, everything everywhere, all at once. And then the winner being Natu Natu from Triple R, which, yeah. And the
00:50:07
Speaker
Yeah. And the performances, you know, they're, again, Lady Gaga stripping off all her makeups, you know, going down to the jeans and t-shirt playing them. Yeah. And saying this is sometimes some kind of intensely personal song. I'm like, dude, it's for a war movie. Come on. Right. Right. Get over yourself. The other was the weird performance. Like, I don't know what was up, but there were technical issues for the everything everywhere.
00:50:33
Speaker
thing but you know and it's the song itself is you know yeah almost like you know dissonant
00:50:39
Speaker
Arminings and things like that, but that just did not dreadly lie. Ooh, no, there's been, there's been some controversy around that as well. Um, because there's there, there, there was, I, either there was very little or no, um, Southeast Asian representation. Um, so I think the two leads that were dancing there were, uh, Australian and Canadian.
00:51:04
Speaker
Um, and, uh, just happened to be, but, but they had dark skin, but they don't even have roots. And in India, uh, to be fair, they did try to get the actual leads, but you know, they're thinking they can make it for whatever reason. Um, but yeah, it sounded like, sounded like it was mishandled. I can't comment on it cause I didn't see it. Well, that's a.
00:51:27
Speaker
Well, then again, I'm talking about the, everything everywhere about not to not to. Oh, right. Right. Oh no, no. Yeah. On the not to not to, uh, yeah, that that's, that what was going on in the background. Um, although for the, for the last another one, I mean, yeah, they couldn't get the lead just for the real, but the guys that did it, I thought that a great.
00:51:49
Speaker
Great job, but they also, you know, like, uh, some of the other folks, you know, that were there, you know, I'm supposed to be like the white characters from the film. So, you know, they're just, they're getting there and they're all dancing together versus, you know, yeah, that was the confrontational bit in the movie, but still, uh, those folks winning.
00:52:09
Speaker
Yeah. It was a big moment and his acceptance speech was, you know, quoting the carpenters. Okay, that's pretty cool. Yeah. Give that guy more awards.
00:52:23
Speaker
Cool. So, uh, next category, uh, best editing. So we have, uh, Banshees and then Sheeran, Elvis, Tar, uh, Top Gun Maverick, uh, everything all, everywhere at once. Let's understand the category. Yeah. Banshees? Really? Why? I mean, yeah. Oh, I like the movie. So it must have good editing or something. I don't know. Like versus, you know, everything everywhere, which again, kills me because the guy up being up there, I don't know if he saw his speech, but he's like,
00:52:52
Speaker
This is the second project I've ever worked on. I'm still in film school. This is weird. But it's like, no, you did an excellent job, son. Oh, but you've seen what he did. Uh, is it was so layered and so complex and, um, yeah, he deserved it. Yeah, definitely deserved it. Oh, absolutely. No, it's the editing in that one. I mean, it's everything in that movie, right? But it's.
00:53:19
Speaker
actually the editing that doesn't show you the low budget they made it on. Right. No, totally. His editing like totally covers that. And it looks so slick and so professional and everything matches up so perfectly within each thing. Like if you didn't have just a crackerjack editor, that movie would not be what it was.
00:53:40
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, totally, totally. Um, and then some of these, like, well, sort of Elvis and Top Gun, I sort of feel like, yeah, you got a great feature in making commercials going forward. Probably guaranteed that you'd be able to do that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well done. Well done. But yeah, like you said, everywhere, everywhere, all at once, uh, it was through clever editing that made the effects look like they were, you know, uh, top tier expensive effects made by a huge studio. Um,
00:54:10
Speaker
But then, and it wasn't just in service of that. It was also making sure that the story is paced, you know, properly. And I mean, I think this category does best with films that are quite dense and fast paced. And going back to the banishes of editions, that is not very dense or fast paced. The opposite. Yeah. Yeah. Totally. Totally.
00:54:35
Speaker
Right. And the way this sort of balances between the cinematography and best editing in a lot of ways as well, because those slower movies really kind of depend on the cinematography to kind of tell the story and eke it out or enhance or you'd be interested or something like that. Totally, totally.
00:54:55
Speaker
Um, best director. So we had, uh, Mark Martin McDonough for Ben, who's been cheering nominated Steven Spielberg for the Fable ones, uh, Todd field for tar, uh, Reuben Ostlund for triangle of sadness. And of course the two Daniels who won for everything everywhere all at once.
00:55:18
Speaker
Yeah, and yeah, totally, totally well-earned, although, you know, especially McDonough in that was, you know, it's a well-directed film because given its subject matter and pacing and setting, you're still fascinated. Yeah. The director's going to do that. And what he can get out of those actors as well. The Daniels are just great.
00:55:43
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. I'm not, yeah, I'm just going to do their thing. Let's just protest. And it's also nice that, you know, so we talk about Jamie Lee Curtis, you know, being able to win after all these years of effort that she's had on our side. But the flip side of the coin is also launching careers, you know, like
00:56:06
Speaker
with the two Daniels and all the people that worked on everything everywhere all at once, just being fairly new to the industry. And this really sort of kickstarts things for them, which is nice. Instead of rubber stamping someone that's been around for ages.
00:56:26
Speaker
Um, he's the best actor. And so we had, uh, nominated, uh, Austin Butler for Elvis, Colin Farrell for the band. She's a minister and Paul Mescal for after son, uh, Bill Nike for living. And the winner was Brendan Fraser for the whale. Um, not agreeing with this one. I think Colin Farrell should have won it or.
00:56:53
Speaker
Somewhere between Colin Farrell and Paul Meskal, but I think the fact that Paul Meskal is not a very well-known actor, the nomination in and of itself has given a boost to his career already. Sure.
00:57:09
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. And, uh, it's the same, uh, you know, path out, pack in path thing, you know, Yemen and Quan and even Jimmy Curtis and sort of thing. Yeah. That kind of night, you know, they get on that. The Academy likes to get on that kind of mode when they have the opportunity.
00:57:25
Speaker
Like, oh, look how good we are. Right. It's like, well, let's look how good you were the last 20 years for this movie. Anyway. Yeah. And, and, and the thing about it is, is, is, and again, this is what I'll say about the whale is, is, is I really liked most of the characters in the movie, including Brendan Fraser. Um, but if anything, the makeup was distracting from it. If it was a radio play.
00:57:52
Speaker
I probably would have enjoyed it even more than what I'd seen on the screen. Um, but yeah, yeah, it's, it's, it's an odd one. And Paul Misko and After Sun is awesome, but it's quite an understated performance. As is Colin Farrell's in the band, she's in the sharing, you know, those two had roles that were quite difficult. Uh, though, like Austin Butler for Elvis, um,
00:58:21
Speaker
felt like an impression. I mean, it was a convincing impression. I don't want to sort of pull him down too much, but, you know, yeah, it's somewhere behind those other guys and probably behind Bill Nighy as well, because Bill Nighy was excellent in living.
00:58:39
Speaker
Yeah, but he's also always excellent. He is, yeah. Right, and Best Actress. So we had Cate Blanchett for Tar, Anna de Armas for Blonde, which is a controversial one, but I'm glad she had a nomination in there. The next one's controversial as well, and Andrea Reisborough to Leslie, Michelle Williams for The Fablemans. I think these are all great performances, by the way.
00:59:07
Speaker
Uh, and then Michelle, you know, one for everything, everywhere all at once, which I'm kind of happy for. But I mean, you need, uh, again, because of the career, it's sort of similar to Jamie Lee Curtis, because I think, uh, maybe a couple of those other performances or, uh, a notch higher. Uh, but, uh, we will certainly see those other people going forward. So, oh yeah.
00:59:37
Speaker
Cool. Um, right. Ooh, we're starting to run out of time. So best picture. Um, how many nominations they have all quiet in the Western front. Sure. That's fine. Avatar the way of water. Not as best picture. I don't think, um, Banshee's of Minasheer and certainly Elvis.
00:59:59
Speaker
Mm-hmm. Uh, the Fableman's tar, Top Gun Maverick, Triangle of Sadness, Women Talking, and the winner went to everything everywhere all at once, of course. Yep. Once again, well, well deserved.
01:00:14
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally, totally. Um, I mean, this is the thing, there's so little variety in these, which, which, which kind of goes back to what I was saying about, you know, members of the Academy being sent these, uh, you know, movies to watch. And I'm not convinced to watch in all of them because we would see a lot more variety in here and surprises and all of this. Um, but I think they're just watching, you know, they're opening up variety and they're going like, Oh,
01:00:44
Speaker
Yeah, I've not seen that one yet. I probably should watch that one because it's got a big page spread. Um, I mean, the closest that we came to it, it caused such a fuss was the Andrea Reisborough thing, uh, for Two Leslie. And that was, that was amazing performance. She was very good. Um, oh, we should watch that one because it's got a big page spread. Um,
01:01:11
Speaker
I mean, the closest that we came to it, it caused such a fuss, was the Andrea Reisborough thing for Two Leslie. And that now was an amazing performance. It was very good. But, you know, it kicks up a fuss, which kind of, yeah, I kind of wonder about the exclusivity, you know?
01:01:31
Speaker
Um, and a lot of, yeah, I mean, the fact that the Daniels have managed to break through, you know, is a good thing. So overall, I'm pretty happy with how the Oscars turned out. Um, you know, uh, you know, we got our triple R, I mean, usually the best original song. I don't even care who wins, but yeah, this year I was quite happy that triple R
01:01:55
Speaker
Uh, one, cause I was like, Oh, I know one of them. I actually remember one of them. Um, uh, even with things like the sound like Top Gun Maverick, I think, yeah, more than deserving on that one. Uh, and then, you know, women talking, uh, I didn't really find too much.
01:02:13
Speaker
Well, I'm just scooting back through these. I don't think I found anything particularly offensive. I think anything that I thought was odd was probably in the nominations, but they didn't win, so it's fine. Also, I looked it up and everything everywhere won nine, so that's still too shy of Titanic 11.
01:02:40
Speaker
Oh, okay. All right. I shall throttle the person that told me that. Great stuff. So what do you got planned in the coming week?
01:02:56
Speaker
Um, I'm much, probably some good downtime. So we'll try to catch up on a few of these others, try to hunt down the documentaries and then the shorts. It's always worthwhile. Like watching the shorts is always fun. There's a lot of good stuff you can find going through it. And like you said, lays, laying see work for bigger and better. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's usually something interesting in there. Yeah.
01:03:23
Speaker
You know, and that's probably because an Academy members have time to watch those ones, you know, exactly. Yeah. They'll, they'll make the time for that. Yeah. And we'll watch it on their phone. So I'm checking out a couple interviews that I've come across, um, uh, from, so I can't remember what the name of the site is. I think it was just.
01:03:43
Speaker
It's on Facebook. It's a group that just does weird movies. Most of it's garbage that gets posted on there. It is weird, but garbage. I saw a couple that caught my eye and there was one, I think I heard about it through TikTok, so we'll see how that goes. One movie is new and it's called The Outwaters. It was 2022, anyhow.
01:04:07
Speaker
Um, and it is, uh, meant to be a found footage, uh, horror movie where excursion into the Mojave desert turns, uh, a little bit weird. You can't even sort of trust what you're seeing. And it.
01:04:26
Speaker
Hinges at some point in the story it apparently it's a little bit of a Love it or hate it kind of movie But it's some people have mentioned skin a marine who liked it So I'm gonna give that one a shot and we'll we'll see what that's like And then there's another one
01:04:47
Speaker
yeah no go ahead go ahead no good um so for some reason it just stuck in my head um to watch speed racer i don't know why i never watched it the wieckowski's uh version from a while ago so i'm gonna i'm gonna give it a spin i'm not expecting great things but um i've got it on the docket i'd say i i winged that and uh
01:05:16
Speaker
I was just saying, I probably enjoy watching Speed Racer more just for its inventiveness than I would watching Avatar again. Oh, okay. Yeah. So that's a good, that's a good critique. We'll do that. And then, um, Cocaine Bear is now on the streaming services.
01:05:38
Speaker
Well, I've got some friends. The other Irish friends of mine are planning excursion to the cinema tomorrow to go see Cocaine Bear. And so I should be able to see that tomorrow. That should be a fun one if it's a busy, busy cinema.
01:05:57
Speaker
Yeah. And, and the other one I just seen a still from, and I thought this is, this looks amazing. Who's this from? And it turned out to be, uh, an old movie from, uh, Takeshi Miki. Um, and it's called the, the great Yokai war from 2005. Um, and it's, have you seen it? It's insane.
01:06:21
Speaker
Okay, great. So so I've got that on the docket to watch this week But the imagery, you know you Know go ahead do that. Yeah. Have you seen any other have you seen any other you know, Kai stories from from anyone? Even you know animators. Yeah, I have over the years. Yeah, so so so so I'm familiar with you know what to expect. Okay, I
01:06:44
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Um, but, but I think that again, kind of going back to production design, this one looks great. It looks, it looks like a lot of fun. Unlike many of those others. Yeah. Not to temper it too much or sell it too hard, but yes. And you know, it's me. Okay. So you're going to get something at least that looks good. Right.
01:07:04
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. It's not going to be boring, is it? Cool. Exactly. It is not boring. Right. And I think we will be coming to the end of the episode now. And I am going to press the big red button again.
01:08:01
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He may be in grave danger.