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Nick Taske Podcast
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In this episode, Jalal and I discuss airway dentistry, food, light and all things related.
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Introduction and Connection through Instagram
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All right. My name is Nick. Welcome to my first ever podcast. I've got today with me, Jalal Khan, who's a become a friend of mine over the last few months. I think the, I guess our first interaction was I sent Jalal a message on Instagram replying to a post that he made on energy and information in food. And, uh, he said, give me your phone number. And the next thing we were having a conversation on the phone, say that's the kind of person Jalal is.
Jalal's Journey into Dentistry and Quantum Health
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Um,
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He can tell you a little bit about his background. Jalal is a dentist. He's also a quantum health clinician. So I'll pass over to him from there and we'll see what he's got to say on that. So I started as a dentist and still am one, but we'll firstly thank, thanks for having me Nick. And it's a pleasure to be your first guest on your podcast and prayers that it is a successful podcast that helps you achieve
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your goals and what you want to achieve in life. And I'm sure it'll be a big learning curve for you as you talk to different clinicians and different minds in the space of health and energy and many other topics. So congratulations on starting your podcast. And yeah, onto me. I'm a dentist that did formal training at Sydney University and I've been practicing for 10 years.
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But I realized about three, four years ago that there's got to be more dentistry than just fillings and crowns and focusing on teeth. A, it can get boring after a while if that's all you're doing. And B, because I guess part of my nature is that I just want to do my best for my patients. And if I know there's more out there and if I don't know it,
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The curious the curious person in me keeps on digging until I find the answers So I went digging and discovered this area dentistry called airway dentistry which is an understanding of the fact that the growth and development of jaws
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has a huge impact on the size and patency of the airway that sits behind the tongue.
Transition to Airway Dentistry and Quantum Health Discovery
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And most of us know that if we have struggles breathing while we are sleeping, they can have huge impacts on sleep quality, which has severely detrimental impacts on health in the long run. So airway dentistry was it for a couple of years?
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And I was doing a deep dive into things like sleep apnea and upper airway resistance syndrome and started to treat a lot of patients. And some of the patients I was getting really great results with, with some of the appliances that I was using and other patients with a similar presentation to potentially patient A.
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we're not getting as good results and so i was kind of scratching my head thinking what's going on here these two patients are so similar in how they're presenting clinically but the results are different and i wouldn't call it like a mistake on my part it's just more i guess um
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ignorance more than anything else that there's a bigger picture to sleep than just breathing and jaws and I think many in the dental airway medicine space kind of or dental sleep medicine space just think that jaws are the be all and end all and no doubt they have an important role to play but there's a much bigger factor to sleep than just jaws and breathing and
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that is light and mitochondrial health and hormones and the way that we are living the lifestyle. And so that took me down this whole rabbit hole of how light impacts the way that our body functions, the way that our hormones function.
Deep Dive into Quantum Health Principles
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And I was lucky enough to come across Dr. Jack Cruz a couple of years ago. And when I first heard him, it was like a
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It was like a slap in the face in a good way because he's borderline brutal in the way that he delivers the message. But I think we need to be like that when we're trying to break paradigms and push forward with what is the real truth. And so I'm forever grateful for what he has put together and pieced together, piecing together bits and pieces from biology, biochemistry and biophysics to
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into this kind of movement of quantum medicine or quantum health where we're really looking at the body at a quantum scale. And all of this was kind of alongside me trying to heal my wife from some chronic illnesses that she was struggling with. They weren't too bad, but if left untouched it was going to head down the road of some serious things like diabetes and
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autoimmunity and all these types of things. So we went to see several specialists in the Western medicine space, endocrinologists, hematologists, gastroenterologists, etc. And all of them had no idea what was going on. And it just flabbergasted me that
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These guys are specialists and can't work out how to lift up iron levels in someone who's low in iron, and how to reverse thyroid issues, etc, etc. And so I kind of took it upon myself, me being the loving husband that I am, to think, well, I get the jargon, so I'm going to go and study and see if I can piece this together for wifey.
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things are starting to turn around for her, which is great. It's a vindication of the fact that quantum health really is the approach that is holistic, understands the body's role, understands the role of the environment in, in, underpinning how the body works. And
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It's a very exciting time for me personally, but I think also an exciting time for society at large because we sit on the doorstep of a quantum revolution, not only in health, but in awareness about the forces that underpin living. And it's just, I'm grateful to have learned everything that I've learned and also to share it with your listeners.
Thyroid Health and Quantum Health's Scientific Integration
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Very cool. So I've got a couple of questions for you straight off the bat from there. So I guess the first question on my end would probably be, you mentioned thyroid sort of issues. So is that along the lines of Hashimoto's or something similar to that, if you don't mind my asking? Yeah, sure. So it was Hashimoto's, but it was classified by the endocrinologist as a subclinical Hashimoto's.
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And then said that because it's subclinical, there's nothing that we can do. And I'm just like, surely we can't just give up that easily. So, but there's other types of thyroid conditions out there as well. And sometimes it's just an underactive thyroid.
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which ties in with things like fertility and early neural development inside babies for the first, I think, eight to 10 weeks. So thyroid is critical for anyone that's considering having babies. And to supplement with thyroxine is a band-aid approach to what the real approach would be, which is fixing the thyroid before we try and fall pregnant.
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And so my, my second question for you would be, and, and this is, this is probably one that I came up with when I first heard the term quantum health, because it sounds a little bit like a term that, you know, when you don't know what the word quantum means, it sounds like a cool word. And, and, you know, you're like, why I know quantum's associated with physics. So is this person trying to tell me that physics is somehow associated with our health? Is that the case?
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It is. So I mean, the word quantum has always scared me. And I think part of it was just more ignorance than anything else. So I Googled it and the word quantum basically means the smallest unit of a system. And so when we're talking about quantum physics, we're talking about the physics of how the smallest units of systems behave. And we're dealing with matter.
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you and I are matter. And so that matter is made up of electrons and protons. And so electrons and protons are the smallest, well, they're not the smallest, but they're like some of the smallest units in our systems. We won't go into technicalities of other different types of particles, et cetera, but we'll keep it simple. So electrons and protons are the smallest units of matter inside of us.
Holistic Treatment and Decentralized Medicine
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And the light environment that we expose our bodies to changes how those electrons and protons behave. And so quantum health is really understanding the biophysics that underpins all of the biochemistry and biology that happens inside our body.
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And it's tough. I mean like most doctors and health practitioners have spent, you know, five, seven, ten years learning. And they've all been learning in the biochemistry
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stage of thinking, which is termed reductionist by quantum health clinicians. And the reason it's reductionist is because it's kind of just sticking to kind of a narrow-minded approach to health and not understanding the big picture, which is, I mean, we've spoken about this in the past, but we can touch on it soon if you want, things like just the fractal nature of the universe and energy and information flows and how that's happening at all levels.
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And so to dive a little bit deeper on the term quantum, my understanding is that what you're really inferring is that biology, like everything else, uh, runs on the same principles as the quantum universe. Correct. Yeah. And so what you're saying is why would we separate physics from biology?
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That's the, that's the question. The answer is, is that we've done that because it's easy to separate the sciences and the medical specialties into different specializations without each of the specializations and disciplines talking to each other, which is necessary because they all interrelate. And so that's kind of a gripe that I've always had or since I've been practicing what I do. Um, and you know,
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My understanding is that a physio or a personal trainer shouldn't offer dietary advice or specific dietary advice to a client. And my understanding is also that tissue is made from collagen and water. And so how can you rejuvenate damaged tissue without the consumption of collagen and water?
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And it gets far more technical than that, but that's a very service level topic, right? It's like,
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You're literally made of collagen and water and add some vitamin C to that and all of a sudden you've got the materials to start rejuvenating tissue and it's been said before and I'll say it again, a disc bulge takes 500 days of healing and you can do all the exercises in the world but if you're over consuming coffee and you're exercising too much or staying up too late at night,
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you're exposing yourself to non-native EMF and things that dry out tissue, then you're not going to heal that tissue as fast as you potentially could just through exercise. Spot on. You can accelerate the healing if you change the inputs. If you did red light therapy and cold therapy, you could have that 500-day healing period, if not faster than that. That's the power of light.
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And I mean, in response to kind of like, should physios be talking about nutrition or should dentists be talking about medicine? I mean, there's a funny thing that's always said that doctors always think that dentists are the doctors that didn't make it into medicine. Maybe there's some truth to that.
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And I have a giggle with some of my doctor friends about that. But at the end of the day, I really couldn't give her rats if I'm giving out nutritional advice because I call it decentralized medicine.
Diet, Environmental Influences, and Quantum Health
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And the people that want my opinion, they are judging me not based on my qualifications.
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they're judging me based on the information that I know and that I show on social media and in consultations, etc. So they're judging me, I guess, on if we talk a Bitcoin terminology on the proof of work rather than the qualifications. And to be honest, that's the way that I prefer it. I don't want someone to judge me based on the letters after my name. I want them to judge me on my values and what they believe I know.
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And I guess it's also me knowing what my limits are as a decentralized health clinician and knowing when to refer to another colleague or when to enlist the help of a specialist, et cetera. And we had a conversation on that just yesterday, you know, the saying, if in doubt, refer out.
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We talked a little bit and one of my focuses probably before I met you recently was on the work of a guy called Western A Price who has, you know, he was very foundational in the work in holistic dentistry. If you're a holistic dentist or a health focused dentist, then you almost certainly know who Western A Price is. And I've made a few reels about Price and some other guys, you know,
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Bill Walcott who came up with metabolic typing and Western A Price was sort of this guy who went around and studied native tribes. And I believe his work was done around probably more than 50 years ago. Was it back in the 40s or something like that?
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Yeah, definitely decades ago. It was a long time ago. And so he, he went around and, you know, he was looking at, this is something we always come back to is what is, what's the root cause of this disease? What's the, what's the, you know, and so he was interested in, in studying the mounds of, of native people, right? People who had, um, you know, basically lived in the wild and he wanted to see if there were differences between
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them and the patients that he was seeing. And what he found was that the structure of their face, the airway, like you were saying, the teeth were basically perfect in almost everyone that he came across, unless the teeth had been knocked out or they'd suffered some sort of injury.
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His conclusion was that diet was what formed the facial structure and he was very focused on vitamins A, E, D and K. Right? So I believe there was one vitamin that, was it, was it vitamin A? K2 was key. K2, yep.
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K2 was key in, I guess, delivering calcium to the right tissues. So that was an important vitamin which he came across. The work of Weston Price was critical because, as you said, he'd picked up on the way that the jaws and the dental arches were developing in these people of native tribes all around the world, including the indigenous Australians.
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And what was unique compared to the way that we are living now or the way that we were living when that research was being done was that there was
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basically no processed foods. And the food that was being eaten was nutrient dense. And it was also food that was readily available in the right context. So these people were harvesting their food from the local environment. So there was no environmental mismatch in what they were eating. And coupled that with the fact that
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And this is something which he didn't really pick up on at the time. But these people were living with skin in the game. They weren't wearing much in the way of clothing. They weren't wearing sunglasses.
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they were grounded all the time. And so when you remain coupled to your environment and you are eating the right foods that are being made in your environment and you were chewing those foods rather than having processed foods, you were stimulating jaw growth because sometimes if you're having a season where the food is higher in fiber, you got to chew through that. It's hard to work.
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And so all these things resulted in much better jaw development, much better nutrient density coupled with the skin in the game. And it was a paradigm shift in dentistry, albeit we picked up on it many years later, but we're getting there.
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And I think it was critical. But the one thing which Weston A Price probably didn't know at the time was that all the subjects that he was researching were mitochondriacs. And I think that's an important delineation we should make. And what's a mitochondriac?
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mitochondria as opposed to a hypochondriac is someone that is passionate about living a life that is in support of optimal mitochondrial function.
Genetics vs Quantum Health
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What are mitochondria?
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Mitochondria are organelles inside your cell. So they're mini organs inside your cell. They're inside every cell in the body except the red blood cell. And the purpose of the mitochondria is commonly known to be the fact that they are the power plants inside your cell. They produce all the energy. But they have another very important function and that is they are environmental sensors. So they're sensing the environment and they are
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taking those environmental cues and passing that information onto the DNA. And then the DNA is expressing in a particular way based on the environmental cues that they're receiving, that it's receiving from the mitochondria. And so you've got Western medicine that's stuck in this genetics paradigm where everything is about
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you know, genetic disorders and everything is genetic and all that type of stuff. But if people were to take a bit of time and understand the mitochondrial genome, we'd have a massive paradigm shift in health outcomes because we begin to realize that it's actually the mitochondria and how they operate that determines how the genes are expressed in the DNA.
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And so from there, I guess without going off on too many different tangents, you get to the study of epigenetics, right? So in the study of epigenetics, they would say that
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know, you have certain proclivities to certain diseases, but it's the environment that determines whether the disease shows up or not. So, you know, you'll see pictures in Price's book and in many other books where they show, you know, twins and one twin will, you know, one twin inevitably develops diseases, they eat different foods, maybe they get separated at birth and one
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develops crowded wonky teeth and has sleep apnea and their jaws depressed and the other twin eats the right foods and goes out in the sun and does all the right things and they develop completely differently. And so if it was true that genetics were the only factor in play, then both of those twins would develop the same disease, right? Correct.
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I see the genetics excuse as a cop-out. I mean, no doubt, there are some genetic disorders out there which are purely genetic due to gene mutations. But to me, by and large, most of us who are saying genetics is the reason behind my methylation issues or whatever it is,
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It's a victim mindset where they're just, I guess, accepting their fate. Mitochondriacs do not have a victim mindset. We kind of grab the bull by the horns and shake it up because we are borderline obsessive dogmatic about the fact that mitochondrial function really is the
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the holy grail of health and it's correcting the inputs into the mitochondria that result in changes in energy metabolism and stuff like that. I mean practically every disorder or disease out there is metabolic disease because at least 90% would originate in the mitochondria and the mitochondria is the stage of metabolism.
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So metabolic disease isn't just kind of fatty liver and leaky garden obesity. It's so much more than that.
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Mm hmm. And so, you know, if you're like me, you go on Instagram and you'll
Impact of Light on Health
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see most doctors or not most doctors, but your functional medicine type doctors or your, so to speak, woke doctors talking about metabolic health and, you know, ketogenic diets and, you know, moving and, you know, lifting weights and all these things to lower blood glucose levels, which are all great things. But from what I know of you, you're taking it a step further than that. And so
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You're coupling you're coupling those things with light yeah, I mean I find it ironic that
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There are health gurus out there that are talking about blood glucose monitoring but they're recording on Instagram in blue light and so they possibly don't know that blue light increases blood glucose and blood insulin. So it's just something small like that which just shows the different scale that those in the quantum health space look at because
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Light underpins everything. Everything on this planet has grown under the force of light from the sun. And so to break that down for people.
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We're tracing it back to the start, right? Or back to the beginning. We're saying, what's at the root? And we're saying most people are stuck at food. And food was a big breakthrough for a long time because we weren't exposed to artificial light or non-native EMFs. And so food was the huge paradigm shift where everyone started to realize, hey, my diet is the missing link.
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And what guys like you and Dr. Jack Cruz are starting to say and have been saying for a long time is that we're still facing a lot of these issues and a lot of people have changed their diet and they've changed their lifestyle and yet they're still suffering from the same diseases and there are even new diseases popping up.
00:24:40
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Yeah, so 100 years ago, food is medicine was an axiomatic truth. Then what happened was we started to create artificial light. So in 1879, there was the first artificial light bulb, which was an incandescent, which isn't too bad compared to what we're living under right now. Why would an incandescent be better? Because it's got more red light in it compared to what we're living under right now.
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And so to go from the beginning, we would call sunlight full spectrum light. Correct. And so that has combinations of red, blue, purple, and every color in the solar spectrum, right? Correct. And it's also got light that we can't see in the ultraviolet and infrared ranges.
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Okay. And so it's when we get overly exposed to certain spectrums and under exposed to other spectrums that we start to see disease show up. Spot on. So we're designed to be exposed to the full solar spectrum, not just one or two frequencies. And so what we're living under right now is primarily blue light.
00:25:54
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Which is why you're outside without your shirt on right now, right? Exactly. Although there's nothing to show of just a bit of melanin, nothing else really. But we're living under fake light. It's in the ceilings. It's in our screens. It's in our smartwatches. It's on trains. It's everywhere.
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And what it's doing to us is it's actually destroying our body's sense of time because we sense time of the blue light in the sun. And the blue light in the screens and artificial lights that we see is the same strength as the blue light in the sun at midday. So every time we're looking at these fake artificial lights, we're telling our body that it's solar noon. We're telling our brain that it's solar noon. So if you're looking at your phone at 9pm before you go to sleep, you're telling your brain that it's solar noon.
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And when the blue light increases the periodicity of the circadian clock behind our eye, that's when you start to have chaos ensue because time is a very, very important piece of information that our body takes in in order to make sense of all the energy inputs that we are receiving.
00:27:00
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So coming back to food, like food was medicine and is medicine. And I'm not saying food is not important. I'm saying food is very important, but if food is being prescribed, if nutritional advice is being prescribed without a consideration of one's light environment, then that patient is not going to get amazing results. And the reason why is because the light environment that we expose ourselves to affects the mitochondria and the mitochondria are metabolizing the food.
00:27:32
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And so when you mix up the full solar spectrum with all of this fake light, and I'm talking the light we can see, the blue light that we can see in our screens, but I'm also talking about the light we can't see, the non-native electromagnetic frequencies, which also affect our mitochondria. What that actually does is it affects the fidelity of the signal that our mitochondria have from the sun and the Earth's magnetism in order to drive metabolism.
00:28:00
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And so then the mitochondria get confused. And when they're confused, they're just like, what do we do with this food electron? And once there's too much confusion, food electrons start to escape. And they escape the mitochondria as free radicals. And then when you have too many free radicals acting on the DNA, that's when you start to get malexpression of DNA. And so the entire game of health is about regulating or optimizing the amount of free radicals that are
00:28:29
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being released from the mitochondria. And it's important to understand that free radicals are supposed to be released because they are a signal. So we can't kind of completely eliminate free radical release from mitochondria. But what we can do is optimize it so that we get optimal genetic expression of the DNA. So a lot of what I do is educating my clients and patients on
00:28:58
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optimal mitochondrial health, what are the things that we need to change in our life, in our light environment, in order to restore optimal health. There's a strong understanding of the evolutionary principles under which we evolved, because if we want to try and fix someone that is de-evolving, we need to then understand how we evolved in the first place. And so that is understanding things that happened millions of years ago.
00:29:29
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And so to, so we don't lose anyone. We probably lost a few people already, but when I, when I first saw, when I first saw people starting to talk about artificial light, I was kind of one of these people who just, who, who thought, you know, I'm eating organic food. I'm, I'm exercising, I'm doing all the right things. And here's another thing that I have to worry about, which, you know, to be honest, I don't think it's, it's affecting me. And so it wasn't until,
00:29:57
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I started paying closer attention and probably until I really met you that I actually bought a pair of blue light blocking glasses and I started viewing the sunrise as often as I could. The first thing I noticed at night when I started wearing blue light blocking glasses or red tinted glasses was that I started to feel tired much earlier.
00:30:22
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you know, it was like if I put them on with the sunset, even if I was looking at screens before bed, I would still have the feeling of being drowsy. And it's not to say that I didn't have that feeling when I wasn't wearing blue light blocking glasses, but the hormonal signal was far stronger. The other thing that I kind of think is important to highlight here is that what you're really talking about
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is rhythms and cycles in nature. And you mentioned, you know, coupling the biology with the environment. And so when we are indoors and we're exposing ourselves to more blue light than red light or we're not getting that full solar spectrum, then our body starts to believe that it's a certain season, right? So perhaps it starts to believe that it's constantly stuck in winter.
00:31:16
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And so, if the foods that were only available in winter were only available to us, and that's all we had to consume, then perhaps we would be better off. But because we have access to
00:31:32
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non-seasonal foods at any time of the year, then the light and the food start to have a big impact together, right? Because suddenly we're eating summer foods when our body thinks it's winter. And so that's when we start to put on weight and we start to develop metabolic disease, right?
Personalized Health Care and Mitochondrial Function
00:31:53
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I mean, having bananas in winter, for instance, it sounds strange, but it's a silly thing to do because thousands of years ago, bananas wouldn't have been available in winter. So what makes us think that it's right to eat it now in winter? And this is where, I mean, there's diets like the ketogenic diet and the low-carb, high-fat diet and lots of people are getting great results. Lots of clinicians are getting great results for their patients.
00:32:22
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I still push the fact that they've got to go further than just saying a blanket rule that a ketogenic diet is going to help someone if they're going to eat that 12 months of the year or a low carb high fat diet or low carb high protein diet is going to help someone because it's got to be
00:32:38
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sensitive and considerate to one's context, what the season is, what the light environment is. So it really is all about a very personalized approach to care, where we are understanding how that person is living, what is their latitude, what is their amount of solar exposure, what is their amount of grounding, because food isn't the only source of energy that we have.
00:33:05
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Because in the mitochondria you've got something called the electron transport chain which is fundamentally what produces the energy inside our body. And it's not a carbohydrate transport chain or a fat transport chain or a protein transport chain, it's an electron transport chain. And so we have all of these cycles inside our body like the TCA cycle and other things which are breaking food down.
00:33:28
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into electrons and electrons are the input into the mitochondrial engine that produces energy. So once again we're back to electrons, we're back to how light interacts with electrons but Einstein's photoelectric effect. So it all boils down to the biophysics and making sure that the physics that is happening inside our body matches the environmental inputs that we are exposing our body to.
00:33:57
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And so what you're really saying for the too long didn't read people is that we are electrical before we're chemical. Yes. I would say we're electromagnetic. Yeah. Okay. And so electromagnetic.
00:34:17
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What does that mean? Because when you have a flow of electrons, that creates an electric current. And then James Clark Maxwell, a Scottish physicist, he came up with some laws. And one of the laws which he said was what I just said, that the flow of electrons
00:34:38
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equals an electric current but in addition to that when you have a flow of electrons there is a magnetic field that develops that is perpendicular to the direction of flow of the electric current and so if you have a flow of electrons inside your mitochondria that means then that your mitochondria have a magnetism
00:35:02
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So that's why we're electromagnetic beings. Your heart- So it's kind of like a cross stitch, if you'd imagine that. So electricity is flowing in this way and magnet or magnetism is flowing downwards. Yeah. So you got electrons flowing one way and you got a magnetic field, which is emerging out of it perpendicular. And so like your heart has a magnetic field, which can be measured 22 feet away from you. And the heart is also very dense in mitochondria. Surprise, surprise.
00:35:31
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And so this is why some people are more magnetic than others, because the mitochondria health of their heart is better. Yeah. And so what you're really alluding to there is why we're drawn to certain people. Exactly.
00:35:47
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Yeah. And what I would say from that is that you're probably drawn to the healthiest people, right? The healthiest people or the most energetic people have that internal energy that people are unconsciously attracted to.
00:36:04
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That's right. Because they have more magnetism and they release more light.
Social Interactions and Human Energy as Electromagnetic Beings
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Because every cell in our body releases an ultra-low frequency UV light that we can't see. And that frequency of light is stronger than the frequencies of light from the sun that reach Earth.
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So just think on that for a second. We are producing a frequency of light that is more intense and stronger than the frequency of light that comes from the sun that reaches Earth. So literally like have the sun inside of us. And so we're able to sense the light that's coming off other people. And that's another reason why we are either drawn or repulsed from other people.
00:36:58
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It's kind of like when you step into an elevator with someone and you can feel who's angry or who's had a bad day. Yeah, exactly. We have all these cues that we're giving out the way we smile, the way we smile with our mouth, the way we smile with our eyes.
00:37:16
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And gestures body body language and then obviously the magnetism and the light and this is why the quantum space is just so beautiful because You you you start to look at life in a completely different lens because you're not looking at it in a physical way because you're realizing that everything you see is electrons and protons and so it's like it's
00:37:37
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When I used to hear people say these things, like everything that you see is a hologram, I used to just be like, that's just woo woo, like it just doesn't make sense. I can touch this thing. But the more I learn about the quantum realm, the more I realize that everything really is a hologram and you can, you can change what you see in your physical reality, just based on the frequencies that you were thinking at and the frequencies that you were feeling at. And that all boils down to
00:38:07
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Vibrations and the easiest way to change that is to to change the light that you expose yourself to Because every time a photon of light hits you It makes proteins and molecules inside your body oscillate at a particular vibration That is your vibe So my question to your listeners is do you want to vibe at artificial blue light or do you want to vibe at the power of the Sun? I Know my answer
00:38:37
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Yeah, well, we see the results of that on places like Twitter,
Ketogenic Diets, Cold Exposure, and Lifestyle Factors
00:38:42
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right? Blue Light Vibe.
00:38:45
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Look, the social media space is a beast, isn't it? Because you've got so much garbage going on there. But at the same time, that's how people like you and I connect. And I've found so many people who I would call brothers just through social media, which is phenomenal, something I never would have thought would be possible. And I guess it boils down to me putting out
00:39:14
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what I feel in my heart. I wear my heart on my sleeve. I don't hide anything. And it resonates with people, which I'm grateful for. And, you know, we're building a tribe, a quantum tribe, and it's exciting to see how things are going to pan out as we build this network. Light. That's it, the light network. So,
00:39:40
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I'm going to step things back again now. We had a conversation the other day about, I asked you a question about ketogenic diets and I said, does a ketogenic diet signal to the body that it's wintertime?
00:39:56
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I think we had a really interesting conversation from there because my intuition would say, yes, if you're from a part of the world where the ground freezes in the winter and you're eating primarily fat, your body's running in ketosis, then your body would start to, you know, the circadian clocks would start to tell your body that it's winter, right? But it was the first part of that question which answers the question, which is that when you're in freezing cold temperatures,
00:40:27
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So it's actually the cold temperature that creates the metabolic switch inside your body that drives ketosis and drives the kind of better metabolism of the ketogenic diet. So we're, we're initially talking about circadian switches here, right? So we've got light, which is one circadian switch. We've got temperature, which is another one, which is stronger than light. And do we have a third one?
00:40:54
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Um, I think there's others like, uh, magnetism as well. Yeah. Um, magnetism is an important one. So these are all circadian zygobers or circadian switches. Um, the most powerful one that actually trumps light is, is cold temperature, which is why, you know, ice buds first thing in the morning or face dunks are really good at helping someone restore their circadian rhythm.
00:41:23
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So the ketogenic diet is definitely part of living in winter, but the circadian switch for metabolism is not the diet itself, but the temperature of the environment. And so from there we talked about
00:41:44
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mitochondrial density in certain parts of the body. And so when you are exposed to cold, you are creating more brown fat, which is denser in mitochondria than white fat, right? Yes. And so from there we see people like sherpas, which are for people who aren't aware, you know, sherpas are those people who, who live around, you know, places like Mount Everest and, you know, high altitude.
00:42:10
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Yeah. High altitude people. And so, uh, you know, rich white people will go there with all of their backpacks and all of their gear and all of their, all of their, uh, you know, warm weather clothes or cold weather clothes, I should say. And then they'll pay the Sherpas to track them up the mountain. And so these small people who probably don't weigh too much, who are very dense in brown fat, pretty much only butter on their way up, right? Correct.
Modern Lifestyle Challenges and Minimalism
00:42:37
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And so.
00:42:40
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The theory from there is that those people have more internal energy.
00:42:47
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They're producing more energy because of the diet. Firstly, because we produce more ATP and more water when we are from one mole of fat compared to one mole of glucose. And the temperature is such that it increases the release of infrared light from our mitochondria. And then the infrared light charge separates water.
00:43:16
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That's another whole topic, which we might open up if you want. Um, yeah, we, we can do that. So on, on the topic of red light, we would say that cold thermogenesis, uh, initiates the production of red light within the body, which or infrared light, which is warming infrared light is warming like the sunlight. And then so we would say that those people have a greater capacity to warm themselves from the inside. Correct.
00:43:41
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Yeah. And so that's a combination of the fat from their diet and the cold thermogenesis at the same time. Sure. And the thing is that white Europeans
00:43:53
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Would would also be good at being able to do that because of the haplotype of their mitochondria Think of your haplotype is like there's different types of mitochondria just like there's different types of skin complexions So they would be good at uncoupling their mitochondria to produce infrared light it's just that have they destroyed that capability because of the
00:44:18
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fake environments that they're living in because the winters are warm and the summers are cold. And so what we're, I guess what we're kind of alluding to there is eating a ketogenic diet.
00:44:32
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for years on end is probably not the healthiest choice, even though you might be told that, you know, everything is metabolic disease now and a ketogenic diet is the best way to stay away from developing metabolic disease. If you're coupling yourself with your environment, then you should be healthy enough to have carbohydrates when the sun's out and to eat, you know, basically as you please.
00:44:55
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Exactly. The way to live is to be able to pick your fruit and veggies off the local tree and fats and proteins are locally sourced as well. The tricky part is that we are now living in a world where things like that are so much more difficult because we're all so busy and we've got
00:45:21
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We've got financial responsibilities and before we would have a village that would help us raise our children. The children would have cousins and aunts and uncles and we'd be living in tribes but now you've got two parents raising children and raising children isn't a two-man job.
00:45:39
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It's a village job and so parents are overwhelmed and rightfully so because they're doing the work of multiple adults and we've got both parents more often than not are either working or ones working in the other ones.
00:45:56
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busy as a housewife and that's the hardest job in the world and the most underpaid. Salute and shout out to all mothers listening. We love you. We do. The way that society is being constructed is such that it's so hard to live according to these quantum and circadian principles.
00:46:24
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And that's not a cop-out. And that's just a fact. And so we have to change our choices because the choices are do we live in big cities, which are expensive to live in? So then we have to slave away making ends meet and then not have time to raise our children, not have time to eat healthy produce. And we slave away so that we can set up our children so that they can slave away for their children.
00:46:52
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Or do we regain our sovereignty and build communities which are self-sufficient and don't need to worry about remaining in the slave game because
00:47:02
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we're self-sufficient. All of these things are topics of conversation that I regularly have with my close friends because we're trying to nut out how this looks and how we can make this work and how to find that fine balance between living in the real world, so to speak, but also at the same time living in a healthy quantum circadian way.
00:47:30
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Yeah, and it's a conversation that we've had and I guess having my background, one of the things that I have said is it also comes back to belief systems, right? And so it's one thing to get light and it's another thing to make the choice to get light or to eat healthy food or to do whatever you believe that you need to do to live the life that you want to live.
00:47:53
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And right now, I've made posts about this before our society is one based on consumerism and materialism. And so both mother and father in the family have to work to to consume all the material things that they believe will make them happy. And yet we're getting sicker at the same time.
00:48:15
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Spot on. We're less content. We have, uh, you know, less of the, we have more of the material stuff that we want and less of the, uh, the things that make us actually content and happy. That's because the things that make us content and happy are hard to measure. They're hard to describe. You can't even use any language to describe them. So the things that make us content is like love and understanding of consciousness and understanding of that position in this universe.
00:48:46
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an understanding of a higher power and all these things like people tried for centuries to define love, to define consciousness and many men have gone mad trying to do so. And I think it's arrogant because you can't. These are quantum phenomenon and you can't even describe quantum phenomenon using language.
00:49:11
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The only way to describe it is with maths and even maths is our way of trying to make sense of the quantum phenomena. And so the job is that man has this pitfall of wanting to, of always wanting to be able to answer things, to be able to measure things, to be able to describe things. And so when they can't describe love and consciousness, they're going to gravitate towards things that they can describe, that they can see, touch, feel.
00:49:39
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And those are the material things. And so what we have is this low gravitation towards consumerism because it satiates our need for being able to answer questions because we're going to gravitate away from the questions that we can't answer. And this is where things like faith and understanding of nature and the quantum realm really helped me get released from the
00:50:06
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consumerism trap because I really began to realize that all of this doesn't matter and that what really matters is how we look after our soul while we're on this planet because our body is just a vessel carrying the soul and how can we shape and curate and nourish the souls of our children
00:50:29
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so that they can have a good time on Earth and we can just be rather than be consistently, you know, treading water, so to speak. Yeah, that's soul sucking. I've actually heard it said that, you know, in tribal times they
00:50:49
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You know, they, again, a guy like Western A Price or someone similar studied native tribes, and they found that those people could basically do all of the work that they needed to do, uh, to sustain themselves in four to five hours for the day and the rest of the time they would spend in their leisure or playing with the kids or, you know, making things, uh, crafts, things like that. And so, you know, how much of our time do we have to devote to things like that now when, uh, we're caught in this paradigm?
00:51:17
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That's right. We don't have time to nourish ourselves, do we? And there's so much great stuff in the health space, which is focusing on meditation and yoga and prayer and reading and all these types of things, which at the end of the day is just the basics of what our
00:51:38
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tribal ancestors would have done.
Stress, Environmental Toxins, and Hormonal Imbalances
00:51:40
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They would have just been chilling on a hammock, or maybe not a hammock, but just chilling in the sun, grounded, chewing on a few berries. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It would have been a good time.
00:51:52
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Yep. Uh, a few thousand years too late. I think, uh, one of the things that I focused on and I still focus on very heavily is the, uh, the autonomic nervous system, right? So the sympathetic and parasympathetic or the fight or flight first rest and digest. And, you know, a lot of the clients I see, I'll ask him like, you know, how are you feeling? And.
00:52:19
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the answer that I often get is fine. And it's very difficult to quantify or define what the word fine means because when we are in a particular state for an extended period of time, if that's a fight or flight state, then we become fine with being in that stressed state. And I find, you know, speaking about
00:52:40
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someone who's done all the work that they need to do and they know that they're fine until the next day or until the next week in four to five hours of the day, that would have been far more able to access that rest and digest state. It's a totally different thing, right? It is. I think you make a good point when you're chronically in a position of fight or flight, it becomes normal.
00:53:07
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And we've got to stop normalizing that chronic fight or flight response that we are living in. See, things were designed to be in that sympathetic state of fight or flight during the day because
00:53:19
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cortisol is high in the morning, it wakes us up, but then we've got sunlight to switch it off because sunlight switches off cortisol. And that's how you lower blood pressure. That's how you calm the system down. But then you've got that system to draw upon if a tiger jumps in and starts to attack the tribe. So we've got cortisol for a reason. We just kind of have it chronically activated and the lives that we are living are chronically activating cortisol.
00:53:49
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And what it does is that it steals away, um, the precursor to cortisol, which is pregnant alone. So then pregnant alone never gets to form the six story hormones and it's always directed towards cortisol. Um, and so that that's how we start to have fertility issues. Um, so that's the, that's the concept of pregnant alone steel. Correct. Yeah. So cholesterol gets converted into pregnant alone.
00:54:19
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and pregnant alone then has a fork in the road it can either form cortisol or it can form the sex steroid hormones which are like your atrogen progesterone testosterone etc vitamin D also is in that pathway so when we are chronically stressed we're always driving towards cortisol and we are then
00:54:39
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Stealing away from the production of sex steroid hormones. So this is This is all the hormone dysregulation that we're seeing these days and the infertility epidemic chucking estrogenics, you know a few microplastics here and there a bit of herbicides like I think it's atrazine and Which is not as well known as glyphosate, but pretty estrogenic and
00:55:06
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Yeah, people tend to focus a lot on glyphosate because I think it's the only chemical that they know of in conventional agriculture, but there's some far more nasty ones than glyphosate around. Yeah, or equally nasty. We've got so many estrogenics in the soaps that we're using in the
00:55:27
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in the shampoos and conditioners and all these types of things. It's in medications, it's in food, soy is full of it. And that's how you create a society of men who are deficient in testosterone.
00:55:45
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Because A, they're chronically stressed, B, they're full of nitrogen. In addition to that, they're not working out, they're not doing manly things that they need to be doing, like moving, like fighting and protecting their tribe, so to speak. And there's ways to do that which are not necessarily physical. They can still give you that testosterone boost.
00:56:12
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Yeah, all of this ties into what we're seeing in society these days. All of the light environment, all of the inputs that we're receiving from processed cleaning agents, from processed foods, it's all affecting our hormones. The light is huge. The way that it destroys dopamine inside our eye,
00:56:37
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and inside our brain is phenomenal. And when you have a lack of dopamine, you have a lack of motivation and drive and curiosity in your frontal lobe, this reduces executive function. So then you have people that are less curious, they're not asking questions, even if you give them truth on a silver platter.
00:56:57
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they still can't see it. They still can't see the forest from the trees because they're so low on dopamine. And I personally experienced a huge change in my executive and cognitive function as I've improved my light environment. And it's so liberating and so
Inspiration through Health and Societal Influence
00:57:16
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exciting. And I just want other people to experience what I have experienced and what I am experiencing.
00:57:21
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Well, that's the thing about being a healthy person and becoming healthy, right? We were talking before about exuding light or being that person that other people are attracted to.
00:57:32
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Not only does that happen, but you also want to share what you've learned with other people because you want other people to share your experience. You want to lift other people up, right? Yeah, I want other people to be the best versions of themselves. Not for me, for themselves, for society. Because when you have a society where each person is acting autonomously, but for the betterment of society, that's what you call a coherent society.
00:58:00
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And it's similar to the concept of quantum coherence that we have inside our bodies where, I mean, the definition of quantum coherence in my mind is where every cell is acting autonomously, whether it's autophagy, cell repair, apoptosis, programmed cell death. Cells will make those decisions for themselves based on what is the best thing for the organism or for the tissue. And so that concept of quantum coherence has to extend
00:58:30
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away from biology and up into just the level of society as well. The fractal nature of the universe is such that everything that is happening at the smallest scale can happen and should happen at the biggest scale and vice versa. And so if we want to turn things around as a society and improve health outcomes, improve the health system, and improve executive functioning in society, make a better life and a better world for our children,
00:59:00
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We need to make these fundamental changes at the small scale inside of us and then let that radiate up.
Infertility, Healthspan vs Lifespan, and Lifestyle Changes
00:59:08
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I've often harped on about the state of our society and particularly men in society at the moment. Like you said before, the testosterone levels have fallen by 50% and women are having infertility issues and they're happy to go and spend 30 or 40 or $50,000 at an IVF clinic.
00:59:30
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All of a sudden, if it's about lifestyle change, things start to get too expensive. And I guess there's two things that come up there because there's a promise that you believe that you will receive results when you pay that sort of money, especially to a medical practitioner. And there's an instant gratification associated with not having to make the change.
00:59:59
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I think so, like the instant gratification typifies the nature of society. We want everything yesterday and we don't want to work or grind for it. Um, so that concept of delayed gratification, the lower time preference, it's not there. The, my concern with the way that we are dealing with infertility right now is that we are
01:00:25
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We've got a band-aid approach which is working. People are falling pregnant, people having babies, IVF and whatever other methods there are out there. But aside from it being expensive, the problem is that it doesn't deal with the underlying cause of why the female may be infertile in the first place if it's an inflammatory reason.
01:00:48
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then the mitochondria are not working. And that baby is going to receive suboptimal mitochondria from their mother. And so then that baby is going to have health outcomes decline earlier than what happened to their mother. And so this is how you start to have transgenerational epigenetics where the environmental
01:01:16
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issues and toxic exposures that the mother was exposed to start to show up with disease earlier in the offspring. This is why our grandfathers and grandmothers who probably were the first they were introduced to process food and artificial light didn't get hammered too badly.
01:01:39
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Many of them are still living until 1890. And okay, I mean, there's chronic diseases that are setting in, but it's our parents who are getting hit worse. And we will be hit worse unless we start to look at health from a quantum scale. And so, I mean, my big drive is for the children. That's what drives me. I push myself every day to learn as much as I can and raise awareness about
01:02:10
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the quantum approach to health so that I can help my children and I can help everyone else's children so that we can slowly step in the right direction towards reversing infertility issues for men and women and thereby optimising the health outcomes for future generations.
01:02:32
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Yeah, and there's another thing about that where we're told now that the average life expectancy is the most it's ever been and things are so great because we can expect to live so long. But if you look into the nitty gritty of those details, people aren't healthy when they're dying and people are developing diseases far more early.
01:02:55
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And so someone who dies when they're in their mid eighties may have had four or five comorbidities since they were in their forties. And so the quality of life is low for a much longer period of time. When you look even further into those statistics, you start to notice that people have always been living for, you know, since the beginning of time, people have been living into their eighties, nineties, even early hundreds probably. And what you find is that.
01:03:25
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What's really happened is that the contribution of emergency medicine, so saving people when they're in accidents,
01:03:34
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What you also find is infant mortality. That's a great thing that Modern Medicine has done is really reduced the rates of infant mortality. But the other thing is hygiene, sanitation, building in sewage systems and things to make life more sanitary and more hygienic are the main contributing factors to our
01:03:59
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average life expectancy increase, but the quality of life has significantly decreased. 100%. So like those measures that you mentioned, sanitation, et cetera, have gone a long way towards improving life expectancy. Modern medicine saves lives. There's no doubt about that. You know, in the acute medicine space, emergency medicine space, like you walk in with a broken leg.
01:04:25
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Quantum medicine isn't going to fix that broken leg. It needs to be put back together, you know? So modern medicine definitely has its place, but it's in the field of chronic disease where I think we need to see a bit of an improvement. That way we can have people living a long time, but with a good quality of life where they're not bedridden with multiple comorbidities and lots of pharmaceuticals and all that type of stuff.
01:04:58
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Fascinating stuff.
Quantum Level Health Influences
01:05:00
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Let's go back a little bit to our proton and electron space where we're talking about light and grounding and perhaps we could even combine a little bit of water conversation into that. So can you explain to me why it's important to have your feet or at least some part of your body on the ground when you're standing in sunlight? So the mitochondria have the electron transport chain.
01:05:26
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There are three sources of electrons. One is food. The second is the earth, because we can ground. And the third is the sun. And so the sun produces UV light, and that UV light has a photoelectric effect on our semiconductor proteins inside our body, which means it ejects electrons out of their ground state.
01:05:53
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And that is how we start to create electrical currents inside our body from the sun. So what inside us is semi-conductive?
01:06:06
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So many things. So we're one giant semiconductor full of smaller semiconductors. So proteins like melanin, dopamine, melatonin, serotonin. These are all wideband gap semiconductors. We're starting to get technical with the biophysics now. I love this. I love this talk. And like I was saying to you the other day, I've started reading the book, The Body Electric by Robert O. Becker. Yeah. And I think that everyone
01:06:33
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who's interested in health needs to read that book. But one of the most fascinating things I've found is that bone is semiconductive. And so you've got this perfect match of collagen and appetite, a type P and a type N semiconductor with copper molecules in there to make this as a rectifier, which works the same as a record player. Yep.
01:06:57
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It's magic. So I mean we're full of all these semiconductors which when exposed to light, we create electric current. Then grounding is just a source of electrons. It's also a source for us to dump dirty electricity into the earth.
01:07:16
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When you are grounded, you have a force field around you which protects you from non-native electromagnetic frequencies. It's almost like a Faraday cage.
01:07:29
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For me grounding I see it as something which just equalizes us, it returns us to equilibrium. It balances out the autonomic nervous system. So I mean, you don't need to have your feet on the ground to ground. You can just touch a leaf or have your hand on a tree. So if you're in the city and you're getting your eyes in the game, having a light break at lunchtime, just touch a tree. It's as simple as that. You don't need to take your shoes off.
01:07:55
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So those are your three sources of electrons and as they're flowing through, we have a process of quantum tunneling that's happening as the electrons flow through the electron transport chain. But something the mitochondria does is that it reverses the process of photosynthesis.
01:08:14
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So photosynthesis is when you have carbon dioxide and water plus sunlight resulting in the production of carbohydrates or glucose sugar and oxygen. And so mitochondria reverse that process. So we have a release of carbon dioxide and water from the mitochondria. We exhale the carbon dioxide.
01:08:39
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and the water that we produce stays inside our body. And so cellular hydration has got little to do with how much water you drink and everything to do with how much water your mitochondria make.
01:08:53
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And so that water is photoelectric. It has the ability to change its physical properties under different forms of light. The most important ones are infrared and UV light. And when it's exposed to these lights, it actually separates into two different phases. There is a bulk water phase, which is kind of think of it as like a liquid phase, which is similar to the water that we drink.
01:09:20
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And then you have a exclusion zone layer which is like a liquid crystal that wraps around everything that is hydrophilic inside our cell. So hydrophilic meaning water loving. Water loving. So that means DNA, that means proteins, that means pretty much everything except for fats.
01:09:41
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your cell membrane is fat. And so when you have all these things floating around inside your cell that are wrapped in this hydration shell of exclusion zone water, this is how you start to get quantum coherence happening where, because if you think about it, the most ubiquitous protein in our body is collagen. So collagen is wrapped in this easy water.
01:10:06
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And so collagen is inside ourselves, collagen is in between ourselves, collagen is in the muscles, collagen is in the ligaments. The fascia contains all the water inside our body. So now you have this entire web network of collagen which is wrapped in this sheath of water. And all the information signals that are being sent from one part of the body to the other are happening through this water system.
01:10:35
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And this is happening at a speed faster than nerve conduction. And this is how one body talks to the other, electrically.
01:10:47
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And so the water we make is critical, but it's also changing the behavior of that water under different forms of light.
Semiconductive Properties and Cellular Health
01:10:55
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And here's the thing, we shield ourselves from the sun. We're wearing sunscreen, we're wearing hats, we're wearing sunglasses. And so we're never getting enough of that red light to charge separate our water to restore signal transduction inside our tissues. So you have all these body workers
01:11:14
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who are trying to sort out fascia and trying to sort out this and that, but they don't understand the importance of red light therapy from the sun and what UV light does to charge separated water after it's been exposed to red light and how that is so critical to restoring the health and hydration of the fascia.
01:11:42
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There's, that's, that whole thing is huge. A lot to unpack there. Yeah. Um, it is a lot to unpack. Um, so let's, let's talk a little bit about red light therapy then. So I mean, the ultimate red light therapy is the sun, but, uh, sometimes because of lifestyles, et cetera, it's difficult. And so you can always supplement with a good red light therapy.
01:12:12
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a good red light therapy device. And what it does is it emits red light as well as infrared light that helps to try and separate that water into the two phases that I was talking about. So it helps to improve the information signaling
01:12:29
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that is happening throughout the fashion networks inside our body. And so you want to be getting as much of your skin exposed to that red light as possible. So you do it with your clothes off and you get the biggest panel that you can get in terms of either space or affordability and you try and get skin in the game.
01:12:51
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Literally skin in the game. Literally. When you talk about exclusion zone water and what we're referring to is the fourth phase of water, which is a book written by Dr. Gerald Pollack.
01:13:09
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So we're talking, most of us, most of us talk about water in three phases. So we've got steam, we've got water, water, and then we've got ice, right? And what Gerald Pollack is referring to is a fourth phase on top of that, which he calls easy water or exclusion zone water.
01:13:27
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Yes, it's like a jelly. When you make jelly and you put it in the fridge and you take it out a few hours later and it wiggles around in the bowl, it's like that. Like collagen, essentially. It's like a liquid gel.
01:13:44
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And the water molecules, they're arranged in a lattice and it's like layers of the lattice that form that liquid gel. And an exclusion zone excludes everything that is bigger than a proton. So a proton and anything bigger can't actually fit in. So this is how you protect your proteins from heavy metals and stuff like that.
01:14:10
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There you go. That's an interesting topic. So detox is important, but if you improve your redox, which is the net negativity of your cells, then you will automatically start to detox. So it's always redox before detox.
Circadian Rhythms and Practical Health Advice
01:14:30
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So redox is net negativity inside a cell.
01:14:32
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And how does that translate to water? Well, the liquid crystal gel that is a hydration cell exclusions on water that wraps around these hydrophilic proteins. It is very electronegative. It's packed with electrons. And the other side, which is the bulk water, is packed with protons.
01:14:54
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And you want your proteins to be surrounded by a layer which is packed with electrons because all the protein chemistry, all of biochemistry is redox reactions, the passing of electrons from one protein to another. And so when you have the electrons readily available, that's how you improve the redox reactions that are happening inside your body.
01:15:17
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And then we go to the 30,000 foot view again. You've got a hundred thousand biochemical reactions happening inside your cell every second and they need to be timed to perfection.
01:15:32
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And that time is circadian timing because you want the products of the first reaction to become the reactants of the next reaction. And so that's why everything starts first with circadian signaling, fixing the circadian rhythm, and then starting to load up on electrons, stop the leaking of electrons, rah, rah, rah. And so should, does the body produce easy water and should we be concerned about bringing more easy water into our own bodies?
01:16:05
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I think trying to drink easy water, I just don't know enough to know about whether or not it would get wrecked in the gut, so to speak, before absorption. But I don't think there's a harm in having water which is infused with nature's frequencies.
01:16:23
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Um, so that could be, you know, spring water, anilima wand, something like that. Um, at the end of the day, our body produces the water. We just need to give it the signal to create easy water. And that is from the sun. That is from red light therapy. And for those listeners that have, have a how hang on and are still here right now, um, this easy water is being made with intra red light.
01:16:51
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and remember our mitochondria make infrared light. So when you increase mitochondrial production, increase mitochondrial activity, then you are increasing the amount of infrared light that you yourself are making, which increases the charge separation of water, that increases the easy water, et cetera. Very cool. It boils down to mitochondria. Certainly does.
01:17:19
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If I was to do the too long, didn't read version of that, it's, it certainly is important to have your, so one of the things that I'm, I'm always careful of, uh, whenever I talk about sun exposure is that we're not talking about going out in the sunlight with no shirt on and no clothes on for hours on end, uh, before you've conditioned yourself to the sun or, you know, it's responsible.
01:17:43
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Yeah. And so the other part of responsible sun exposure is, well, firstly, uh, you know, only exposing yourself to, uh, a controlled amount of sun and slowly building that up over time. And the other part is making sure that some part of your body is connected to the ground or to a part, to something that is connected to the ground. Yeah.
01:18:07
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So that's a good place to start for anyone that's kind of looking to change things up a little bit. And the other kind of, I would say non-negotiable is blocking blue light. Blocking blue light, yes. And so it has been hypothesized that
01:18:25
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Blue light, artificial blue light and non-native EMF, and it's probably more than our hypothesis now, actually contribute to certain forms of skin cancer. There's statistics out there that say that outdoor workers actually have a lower incidence of skin cancer than indoor workers. And we know that even with the increased application of sunscreen, hats, sun protection, sunglasses, melanoma rates and rates of skin cancer have continued to increase.
01:18:56
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Yep. There's plenty of research out there to show now that more sun exposure reduces you having comorbidities.
01:19:12
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So the more sun you get, the better. It's just doing it in a responsible way. The less sun you get, the more at risk you are of having several different types of cancers, including skin cancer. And this all boils down to things like melanin and alpha-MSH and the ways that we are able to increase our ability to absorb UV safely.
01:19:40
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But when you are lacking in melanin, when you are lacking in charge separated water, your ability to absorb UV goes down and then you're a sitting duck.
Blue Light Risks and Lifestyle Change Encouragement
01:19:49
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And what's happening is that we have people that kind of
01:19:52
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get to work at 8.30 a.m. and they're in blue light all day, they pop out for lunchtime, oh the sun's too strong and they've gone from zero to a hundred and then that fuels the argument that the sun is dangerous and unhealthy because it's too strong when in fact like they haven't spent any time in the morning sun, they haven't built that ability to handle the natural light. Listen, now we have
01:20:16
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a society who can handle all this artificial light, but can't handle the sunlight. And it's just like, we've got it completely the wrong way around. Which is a concern. And I mean, I do my best not to come out attacking all guns blazing, but more come from a place of love, which is like, guys, the sun's not that bad. Let me teach you how to use it. Yes, you got to be responsible about it. But it's not nearly as bad as what we've been led to believe.
01:20:44
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Mm hmm. It's like, it's like, uh, you know, a vegan who hasn't eaten meat is you, you wouldn't go and eat three kilos of steak in a day.
01:20:54
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The first thing that I was reminded of when I first put on my blue light blockers was I remember being a kid and I was at a Christmas party. I think it was a work function for mum or dad. There was these fluorescent lights on. I remember just thinking, I could fall asleep right now, but I can't. This alien light is just keeping me awake.
01:21:19
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That was my first experience with wearing blue light blocking glasses and now that I wear them more often, it really is alien light. It is. It is alien light which in some lights are even have a stronger blue light lux than that of the sun at solar noon.
01:21:37
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It's completely unnatural and it's destroying our dopamine, it's destroying our melatonin, it's destroying our sleep, it's playing a role in increasing our risk of cancers, it's destroying our eyesight, it's destroying so many things. It's one of the like most little known, I mean there's a lot of people that know that blue light is bad but because they don't know why, they don't take it that seriously.
01:22:05
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And that's, you know, part of the job of quantum health clinicians to really break it down and try and make it as simple as possible that like, it's like, it's the easiest thing to change. But the thing is a lot of these lifestyle changes there, you have to be willing to look a little bit different, you know? Yes. And so, I mean, if we were at a wedding the other day, my wife and I, and I was wearing blue light blocking glasses.
01:22:30
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I was you know her and I were the only people in the room wearing blue light blocking glasses and there's like two three hundred people there I don't mind looking like looking a little bit silly if anything more people are coming up to me saying all those glasses are cool and so we just have to be willing to be ourselves willing to not be a common person we need to be willing to be a limited edition one of one
01:22:56
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And there's too many of us which are kind of wanting to fit in. I couldn't give rats about fitting in. That wouldn't be me. And I encourage people to be themselves.
01:23:07
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Yeah. And, and that's, that's a real, uh, I guess a real differentiating factor. It's, it's a sign of maturity and it's also a sign of, of like internal strength, right? You've, you've developed a sense of, of self and you've individuated enough in Jungian terms or psychological terms to be able to say, I can be my own person and not worry about what other people think of me. Yes. Provided that I'm not harming anyone else. Of course. Look, we always come from a place of love. Um,
01:23:37
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It's easier to do it when you have more dopamine in your brain and in your eye. It's just way easier. And you do it less aggressively and you do it with more love when you have more dopamine and more serotonin in you. It's just a fact.
01:23:56
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baby steps, go nice and slow, just start with morning sun, block blue light at home, don't worry about blocking blue light out, and slowly you will start to realize and make the changes yourself without feeling like this is a task, this is a chore, because you'll start to want to do it yourself, because your eyes will be begging you to put the glasses on, and
01:24:22
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your heart and your mind will be begging you to get that morning sun.
Improving Health Habits and Quantum Health Guidance
01:24:27
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You just have to stack those days of morning sun. It's not once a week, stack them one after the other and just watch your life exponentially change. Is there any other advice that you would give to someone who is struggling with low energy or has brain fog or any of those sort of conditions that you talked about?
01:24:52
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There's lots of things that I could say. I think the number one thing is to...
01:24:57
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Think about changing your light environment. And that starts with, as we've touched on morning sun and blocking blue light, just do those two things. So to clarify for people, morning sun is important because it kickstarts the production of melatonin, but it's also important to get in that low angle morning sunlight because it's less potent than the midday sun, which is more likely to cause you distress when you're first beginning, right?
01:25:25
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Yeah, you can't look directly at the sun at solar noon because it's just way too strong. But you can look directly at the sun as soon as it breaks the horizon because it's got no UV. It's infrared. It's a bit of blue. It's safe to look directly at it. It's OK to look directly at it. But you have to work towards that. Like, first morning, you shouldn't be looking directly at it. The ancient Egyptians used to spend an hour looking at the sun in the morning.
01:25:47
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We're not ancient Egyptians, are we? Because we've been bathing in artificial light. So just look 15 degrees off to the side of the direction of the sun and start to build your ability to handle that morning sun. And yeah, so once you start to change your light environment and then you need to start to think about who you are surrounding yourself with because those people that you are surrounding yourself with, you're only as good as the kind of the five people around you.
01:26:16
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So do you need to do a bit of an audit of your friends and family around you, your close ones? I think that's super important. And that's sometimes a hard conversation that you have to have with yourself more than anybody else. You have to change your habits and your habits are actually what form your identity. There's a book called Atomic Habits that touches on that.
01:26:39
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So if you want to change who you are, you actually have to change what you are doing on a daily basis. And if you're not willing to change what you are doing on a daily basis, it means that you're not willing to change who you are. So those are just a few pointers to get people on a journey towards optimal health. It's not easy.
01:27:01
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because there's like a massive web of disease causing things and then once you try and jump outside and try and get healthy, there's an even bigger web of health advice out there of which, you know, I'm part of that pack. What separates the quantum health clinicians like myself from the allopathic Western medicine and the functional medicine?
01:27:23
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It's because we look at electrons and protons and how light interacts with that and everything happens under light. That's the way that we look at things. If it's too much of a maze for you to make sense of, think about working with a quantum health clinician because we will go out of our way to help you because that's why we wake up every day. Where can people find you? I have a website, k2calibur.com.
01:27:53
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which goes into my quantum health coaching. I also am on Instagram and Twitter. My handle is k2caliber. So k2calibre.
01:28:07
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Very good. And it is definitely worth the follow. I've said it before and I'll say it again, the kind of content that you produce is mind blowing and it really makes this sort of difficult stuff very easy to understand. So thank you for the content that you produce. No, it's an absolute pleasure. Glad to have connected with you over over some of that content and it's. Good stuff. Thanks, Jalal. I'll leave you there.