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EP09 Kiera Lea - Quantum Health Clinician and Educator
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Kiera Lea is a Quantum Health Clinician and Educator with an understanding of biophysics that's as deep as the mitochondria.
In this episode, we discuss the foundations of health and life on earth, and as usual, we dive into some of the less tangible science, touching on archetypes, gender roles and societal programming.
Head to her Instagram @kieraleawellness to find out more about her work.
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Transcript
Introduction and Guest Background
00:00:00
Speaker
All right. Welcome back to my first podcast in a little while. My name's Nick and this is the Nick Taskey podcast. Today I'm joined by Kyra Lee. We were just having a very in-depth conversation where we decided to end it. We might jump back in in a little while, but Kyra, introduce yourself. You're an interesting person. Thanks. I hope that's a good thing. My name is Kyra Lee. I live in Southeast Queensland and I am a circadian and quantum health coach.
00:00:29
Speaker
Um, so yeah, that's pretty much about me. I was a nurse, um, back in 2020 in nursing school and then the whole COVID thing happened. And so I became a decentralized position in the realm of quantum and circadian health. And so I teach people how to heal through nature, empowerment, science, um, a very alternative holistic view
Holistic Health vs. Mainstream Medicine
00:00:50
Speaker
to health. Um, that's a bit different to mainstream medicine, which is built on the model that people's bodies are broken and they need a product to fix them.
00:00:59
Speaker
So I feel like especially as a woman for the longest time, we've been told your body's broken, but here's a product that can make you make you better. Whether that be, you know, our skin is not tan enough or our hair is not the right color or our eyes aren't big enough.
00:01:12
Speaker
It's like, here's a product that can make you better because your body's broken. And then as teenagers and women in the young twenties, we start to have health complications that more often than not can be traced back to these products that are going to make us better, quote unquote. And so then we buy more products that can make us better. And so I help people break out of that mindset and understand that our body is actually perfect the way God designed it.
00:01:38
Speaker
The problem is, is that our body is trying to function in an environment that is not designed to support its optimal function. And so that's when we start to get disease and illness. But yeah, that's a little bit about me. And what makes your approach probably different to the approach of a lot of health practitioners is that you have a big focus on light, right? And so for you, it starts with light above nutrition, above everything else. Is that correct?
00:02:03
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. We focus on light as the foundation of health because light is ultimately tied to our electrical body.
Light, Nutrition, and Body's Electrical Nature
00:02:11
Speaker
And whether you believe that or not, for the purpose of this podcast, maybe just accept the fact that our body is electric. And so we look at the body through subatomic scales, so protons, neutrons and electrons, and how these actually work also in our body independently, but also in connection to our environment.
00:02:29
Speaker
And so an example of that would be a regular nutritionist would just be focusing on food because that's where we get our nutrition from. But light is also a nutrient and light just like micronutrients is made up of all these different frequencies of light. And then these impact our body in different ways. For example, when we're under UV light, this actually upregulates cytochrome 1 in our mitochondria, which is the cytochrome that accepts carbohydrates.
00:02:55
Speaker
And so that's the connection between our environment, the way that that UV light in summer impacts our body, and then also the food that we should be eating, which is local and seasonal to us. So light shapes our metabolism.
00:03:08
Speaker
If you don't really understand what I just said, just know that light, that light that you're around, the light that goes in your eyes and on your skin, that really impacts and shapes the way your body functions. To break down the food that's also growing under the same light that you are, so local and seasonal to you. And so light is a really important piece of the puzzle that's missed in mainstream nutrition and dietetics. That's ultimately led to a lot of half-truths in the industry and that's starting to come to light now, which is really exciting.
Mitochondrial Influence on Diet and Health
00:03:40
Speaker
Explain to me a little bit about the concept of your mitochondrial haplotype because that's what you're really touching on there. And I come from a system where that's based on metabolic typing, right? And so basically what metabolic typing looks like, you know, we acknowledge that a lot of us have migrated to different or immigrated to different parts of the world.
00:04:04
Speaker
If I have, uh, if I grew up as an Inuit or my ancestors were Inuits, then they were eating a lot of fat and protein. They pretty much only had access to fat and protein. And so if my ancestry is Inuit, um, and I'm living in Australia, then there's a little bit of a mismatch with my environment and what I am actually designed to eat. Right. And so if I go and start eating a pineapple in the middle of winter as an Inuit, then it's potentially going to cause me some health issues.
00:04:33
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, it also depends, and everything you said is exactly correct. It depends on where you are in that space and time, and then also considering your heritage, your mitochondrial heritage as well, which is where directly passed.
00:04:47
Speaker
mitochondria are actually down from our mothers to us as children when we're born in in utero. And so we're designed biologically to actually thrive where our mother's mitochondrial ancestry is most closest to. So for example, I did a test on 23andMe, I know apparently they're harvesting my data, but that's okay, they probably have it anyway. And it said that my mitochondria, even though I was born in Australia, you know, my mum, my dad's half Aboriginal, my mum is
00:05:17
Speaker
Scottish that she has bright red hair, the most fairer skin. And so her mitochondria is actually from Scotland. So my mitochondria when I did my 23 metres came back as Scotland, Ireland, like that area. And so that means that my mitochondria have adapted over a very long time through evolution, or if you believe in God, then God gave us a special type of mitochondria.
00:05:39
Speaker
to help us thrive where we were living and where we were placed on the planet. And so my mitochondria are functioning to suit a cold environment, somewhere that gets really, really cold. And so if we eat food that's imported or out of season, that's not from the environment that's cold, right? If we look at like, let's just take Ireland as an example in winter, it's very, very cold and there's no UV light. And so there's no carbohydrates growing.
00:06:07
Speaker
there at all. And so my mitochondria takes input signals, not just from food, but also from light and temperature. And so if I'm outside, like I should be, not in air conditioning all day long. But if I'm outside in Ireland in the middle of winter, my skin, my eyes are sensing no UV, it's really cold. And so my mitochondria are going to be coupled in a certain way.
00:06:28
Speaker
that allows for it to have as much energy as it possibly can in the winter time, when traditionally speaking, we don't have access to a lot of carbohydrates, to a lot of food perhaps, right? And so this is a little bit off topic, but I think it's really cool. When our mitochondria adapt in this way, because we're getting the right input signals, right, and they're all aligned, my mitochondria actually produces more heat. So we're told that mitochondria just produce ATP, but it also produces
00:06:56
Speaker
CO2 light, which also heat, a proton gradient, all these things, water, metabolic water. And so that infrared light becomes mass produced. And so our mitochondria really turn into like a fire in winter when we get cold. And so all of that light is able then to structure the water, the metabolic water that's around our cells, to charge separate that.
00:07:19
Speaker
And that's the work of Dr. Gerald Pollack. He talks about how infrared light can really charge separate the metabolic water in our body to actually create a battery, which he's used tiny little electrodes to actually put into that easy water and power a light bulb. So it really truly is a battery. And when that happens, that gives our body more energy. And so in wintertime, how did we survive perhaps without preserved food? If it was before the time of preservation when we didn't have access to animal meats,
00:07:48
Speaker
I believe that this easy water battery, which has been, I guess, expanded through the increase in that infrared light emission from the mitochondria when we allow ourselves to get cold is a big part of that. And so that's the way mitochondria are coupled in winter as compared to, I guess, summertime, it changes to be slightly less efficient and we're getting ready to eat carbohydrates, right? Did that kind of make sense?
00:08:14
Speaker
It does, it does. And you've kind of sparked my mind to think about a lot of different topics. I know a podcast like this can go in any direction and like we were talking about before, I think some of these podcasts can get like, let's just focus on the science of it or let's just talk about
Energy Flow and Emotional Trauma
00:08:30
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light. And maybe some people are listening and just wanting to hear about how blue light or light coming through a window is pretty much only blue light or how
00:08:39
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we're both looking at screens and so we're affecting our health and all of these things. But let me ask you something that maybe might make you think a little bit. Maybe you don't have an answer for this, but in the check system, they teach, and this is kind of making me think based on what you were just talking about on easy water and how that can create energy in the body. So in the check system,
00:09:03
Speaker
Paul has studied Tai Chi and Qi Gong and these sorts of things and practiced them for a very long time. And so for people with certain ailments or health problems, he's designed what he refers to as zone exercises. And so for example, if I have potentially issues with my ears, nose and throat,
00:09:23
Speaker
then I could potentially be doing a zone six exercise. And, you know, a zone is another word that he developed for the chakra system. And so zone six would be around that throat sort of area. And so an exercise like that would be based on, I think it's a little wit technique where you've got this hand in this supinated position and I'm exhaling at this point. And then as I'm looking to the other side and supinating here,
00:09:53
Speaker
I'm ending up exhaling on this side as well. So I'm kind of trying to get through a full breath as I change. And so my question to you would be, you kind of want to try and do a minimum of 20 minutes of an exercise like that per day, but what's happening throughout kind of the rhomboids and these muscles is the upper back as well, is that you're getting the opposite movement happening on each side.
00:10:18
Speaker
uh, pronation, supination or flexion, extension, all of these things are happening. And so you kind of loosening the joints, but you'll, you're bringing more energy, more blood flow, more water and these sorts of things into that area. And you kind of notice like magical things start to happen. Um, just by timing, breathing with movement and focusing on that area while you're doing that movement.
00:10:40
Speaker
Do you think that's got to do with the generation of easy water or bringing heat to that area? Or like, is that too much of a deep question? I mean, that sounds great. I think that that practice is definitely beneficial in terms of how that really relates to the things that I like to talk about a lot. I mean, what I share on social media and what I talk about on podcasts isn't
00:11:04
Speaker
isn't necessarily everything that I believe. It's just a certain niche or whatever that person's interested in talking about. But I talk a lot about trauma and energy flow on the body with my clients. And something that we know is that memory is actually, we used to think that memory is just stored in different parts of our brain, but memory is actually stored in the hydrogen bonds of water. And if you count up all the molecules in your body and you put them in a bag and you look at which ones are water, it's actually 99% of our body is water. And so if we hold our memory in the hydrogen bonds of water,
00:11:34
Speaker
Um, that can have a lot to do with, uh, how we present, um, and different blockages that can happen in our body. Um, and so something that's really interesting that I found is, um, through yoga teacher training, we have different chakras in our body. And you explained that these zones can kind of correlate with these different chakras. So was it zone six is the throat chakra? Yeah. Um,
00:11:58
Speaker
And so what I found through practice with clients, five, okay, clear that up. Something that I found with working with clients organically is that, um, for example, and sorry, if anyone, um, is a little bit, I guess, triggered by this, I hate to say trigger warning. I don't like saying that. Like I'll trigger warning everyone. I feel like it makes things worse, but I don't even know. Anyways. Um, women that have been through a lot of sexual trauma in their life, especially in their younger years,
00:12:28
Speaker
they hold that trauma in their body. Now, my first ever client that I worked on in this way, she had severe back pain and her daughter was also had a tumor in her stomach as well. So her daughter was two years old and diagnosed with a one kilo benign tumor. Thank God it was benign in that same area. So that same like shake, what's it called? Sacral root chakra area.
00:12:55
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which is where if you're looking back on trauma, it's like they're the that's the type of trauma that was related to those chakras, right? And so it made complete sense to me that she has lower back pain, and she also had a child that was born with a tumor in that same area. And so what we do is we go in and do myofascial release on those areas. And so when we're doing myofascial release, what we're really doing is it kind of sounds similar to the movements that you're describing, just more isolated on specific muscles, and then also bringing in that energy through your hands and things.
00:13:25
Speaker
up through those meridians and things. So it makes sense to me. But when you're doing myofascial release on those areas, what you're actually doing is you're rehydrating that area. So perhaps maybe you're storing memory in that specific part of your body that's related to that chakra. For the example we're talking about now is sexual related trauma. And so that's kind of trapping that memory because you're not ready to let go of it. Or that's just where it's gone to straight away when that traumatic event's happened.
00:13:54
Speaker
And so when you're doing myofascial release and you're really moving that water out of the body, and you can combine it with other therapies like drinking determined depleted water or exercising things, but you're really releasing those memories. And then more often than not, what we see is a relief in the symptoms we can have just like breath work can actually, you know, bring up sort of emotions. I see like a similar effect through doing targeted myotherapy in those areas. And so that's a little bit of a tangent.
00:14:20
Speaker
But I think that's kind of the same thing that's happening in the processes that you're describing. And it's really just focusing on those different chakras, bringing the heat, bringing the energy, moving the water through the body to try and move those energy points.
00:14:36
Speaker
Mm-hmm. And I think sometimes it's our own discomfort with talking about topics like this, like we were talking about before. But like I mentioned to you and like I talked about in my podcast with Dr. Olivia Lesser, the book by Joel Sino
00:14:55
Speaker
about back pain. I can't remember the title of the book, but essentially what he says is that most back pain is correlated to issues with that chakra. And I don't know if he uses that specific word in his book, but things like financial problems or things like
00:15:12
Speaker
Um, you know, feeling the weight of the world on your back and, and, and these sorts of things is like, he found in something like 90% of the clients that he worked with keeping in mind that this, I think he was an orthopedic surgeon. Uh, he found that it was psychological issues were at the root cause of that. And so he was able to relieve their back pain without even working with them physically. That's incredible. I would love to know the name of that book if you can recall it. Yeah, I'll find it for you. Yeah. Um,
00:15:39
Speaker
Tell me a little bit, um, if you, if you know more, it's a, I know nothing about it, but tell me a little bit more about how memory is stored in the hydrogen bonding networks of water. Um, that's a great question. And if you ever find the answer, please let me know. They've done some experiments, um, where they've done experiments where they've proven that water can have memory.
00:16:03
Speaker
I don't know if you follow the work with Vader Austin. Have you heard of her? I don't. I've heard her name brought up a lot. And I know that she doing some of the stuff where, you know, they're saying certain things to water and then freezing it and looking at the fractal shapes in water.
00:16:19
Speaker
Yeah, so one of her, I did a workshop with her a few months ago and I'll tell you this story and perhaps people can go because we're not going to have, I want to talk about this topic for hours, but go to Veda and have a look at the work she does if you want to learn more about water memory. She gave this one example of a mother that reached out to her and her child was, can't remember her exact disorder, but she was disabled. And every night the mother would say to her child, I love you so much, I love you so much.
00:16:48
Speaker
And she never knew what her daughter, you know, she's never heard her daughter say, I love you back. But she would make these weird noises. Or she called them weird noises. I'm not being rude. That's what she called them. And she wanted to know if Vader could play that noise to water, what would the imprint be in the water after Vader froze it? And so I guess I should talk about
00:17:10
Speaker
first what her process actually is. So Veda can put images like a piece of paper under a water with like love written on it, or she can play, I think one of the songs she likes to play is Stairway to Heaven by Led Zeppelin, which is my dad's favourite song, so very cute. And Stairways will actually be imprinted in the water or whatever she's thinking will be imprinted in the water.
00:17:31
Speaker
She can also ask it, show me yes or show me no, and it will present different images and she can repeat that and it'll keep showing her the same image. And so she's kind of got an alphabet for how she speaks to water, but the images that it keeps showing her, which is really cool. So water has a consciousness or water has the ability to reflect our consciousness back to us. So we're actually communicating with the water and communicating with our subconscious through the water.
00:17:57
Speaker
So it's quite interesting. But so Veda said, yes, of course, I'll play this, you know, your child's voice to the water and we'll see what it comes up with. And so she half freezes the water and it leaves a fractal pattern in the exclusion zone or whatever that water is. And the image was, I love you so much, mom. And yeah, so she's done a lot of experiments and it's yeah, it's really beautiful. So there's definitely more to water than we think.
00:18:25
Speaker
And I think if we look at the world we live in, it's like our water is so traumatized. It's full of chemicals. It's been recycled through person to person. We recycle water so much as people. We don't have a relationship with our water because it's constantly being excreted because we're so dehydrated and then we're drinking more water that's been traumatized through some sort of
00:18:45
Speaker
water plantation facility and then it's got more chemicals in it and all of these things. There's just so much more to water than we know. There's a beautiful story. It's an old Chinese story about a lady and she was missing something and so she went into the mountains to look for that. And she was out there for two years and she couldn't find it. But then when she came back, she looked down on the city and she saw they were all drinking this water and they forgot who they were.
00:19:13
Speaker
And so that's what the story is about. And she tried to get them to stop drinking the water, but they wouldn't. And so I think that's a good, good example of just how much, you know, we should be listening to water, understanding that water is just more than something that hydrates us. It could really be the source of life, but that's a bit of a tangent, but it's really cool the research that's coming out from this. Yeah. And there's, I mean, there's so many different tangents we could go down with water. I mean, one of the things that I find
00:19:43
Speaker
that I found kind of interesting growing up was for one thing I always thought bottled water was too expensive to buy and I wondered why people bought it. Now I'm more than happy to buy bottled water if I'm in this situation where I can't find good water. But
00:20:02
Speaker
One of the things that I found really interesting was kids who I knew who grew up with tank water or on farms would always prefer to drink tank water. And my understanding now is that rain water or tank water is not as good as like artisan water or water that bubbles up under the ground. Um, and they refer to it as young water, but do you have kind of any thoughts on that?
Water Memory and Health Benefits
00:20:24
Speaker
Um, as to what water is best for us to drink? Yeah.
00:20:28
Speaker
Yeah, I would be drinking spring water if I had a good source. Well, I do have a good source, but unfortunately, I have to buy in a box from the store. If I had just a spring local to me, I would definitely be drinking that water, because it has natural minerals inside of it. It also has the right deuterium concentration for my location. And it's not traumatized. So it hasn't been put through all of these filters and vortex in a certain way that's completely unnatural to nature. So
00:20:55
Speaker
Definitely would be drinking spring water is my first choice. And then what I personally do is I buy Tasmanian water. So the water that comes from Tasmania is lower in deuterium. And so that's better for my health because I come from a high carbohydrate background. And also coming from Costa Rica where I was eating a ton of fruit and things like this. It's definitely better for me now. So I buy the Tasmanian spring water.
00:21:20
Speaker
And I drink that and then I just add some Celtic salt and some minerals to that. But if you're living in a city, I definitely think and you don't have access to spring water, buying spring water from a store or installing a reverse osmosis filter and then adding the minerals back in so that your body can actually absorb it. Like our mitochondria actually evolved, if you believe in evolution, they evolved in the sea. And so for them to actually be hydrated, they need to have the salt, they need to have those minerals.
00:21:49
Speaker
to capture the water properly.
00:21:51
Speaker
And I think kind of your points on minerals and my kind of thinking is that rainwater is probably deplete of minerals and it hasn't gone through this series of phases that it needs to go through as it bubbles up from under the ground that kind of more mature water has gone through. You mentioned something called deuterium and I want to ask you a little bit more about that because I know it's used in the treatment of cancer, at least in alternative
00:22:21
Speaker
treatments. And yeah, can you tell me a little bit more about deuterium? Yeah, of course. So deuterium is an isotope of hydrogen. So hydrogen is in all our water, H2O. And so the amount of deuterium that's in, so an isotope of, so deuterium basically can be anywhere that hydrogen can be. It acts the same chemically, but physically it has different properties. And so that's called an isotope.
00:22:48
Speaker
And so depending on where you are on the earth, the deuterium level of your water will be changed slightly. So if you're closer to the poles, your water will have less deuterium. If you're closer to the equator, your water will have more deuterium. The same if you change altitudes, if you change inland or towards the coastline.
00:23:05
Speaker
The deuterium will change. That's in your springs, the water, your tanks, all the places, the creeks. And so why is our deuterium changing? Well, it's actually by design, God's design, because we actually need different levels of deuterium in those places. And so if you're living in the equator, you have a lot more sun. So you can handle a lot more deuterium. If you're living near the poles, you don't have a lot of sun. So you maybe need a little bit more deuterium. So you need less deuterium, sorry, if you're living near the poles because you have less sunlight.
00:23:35
Speaker
And so we can get into the deep side of that, but really on a high level, it's the fact that we now import foods out of season and we eat a ton of carbohydrates, which actually have a ton more deuterium than fats and proteins that our body just has way too much deuterium. And so when the body has too much deuterium, we start to see mitochondrial dysfunction. And we see problems with the ATPase too. So basically we have an electron transport training in our body.
00:24:04
Speaker
And that's designed to function a certain way. And when we have too much deuterium, it kind of slows that process down and then breaks the mitochondria. And so when our mitochondria are broken, just like any cell, we then need to be able to replace that bad cell
00:24:18
Speaker
And then the other side of this coin with the deuterium is the blue light, because if you're around blue light at nighttime, you actually can't take out that bad cell, or it happens at a very, very slow rate. And so you get this buildup of damaged cells, which puts you at greater risk of systemic disease across the board. And so more often than not from a practical lens, because I feel like that's easier to understand, when I have clients that have like eczema or skin issues,
00:24:45
Speaker
or even sometimes gut issues, people with cancer, they have way too much deuterium
Deuterium's Role in Health
00:24:50
Speaker
in their body. And so they need to maybe look at doing a deuterium depleted diet, which is you can deuterium deplete just by eating grass fed fats and beef. Or maybe if you're suffering with a chronic illness, you might need to actually purchase some deuterium depleted water and actually start a protocol in that to swap the deuterium that's in your cells and body to hydrogen to have better function.
00:25:13
Speaker
Mm. As I understand it, um, deuterium plays a role in the, in the growth of children. Is that right? Like it's, there's a, there's a high deuterium content in breast milk and even cow's milk as well. I used to think that there was high deuterium concentration in breast milk. I still do believe that, but I've seen mixed data come out now on that. I feel like since everyone's been talking about it, some weird data has been released. So I don't want to give anyone an exact answer. Um,
00:25:39
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but the common notion is that breast milk is higher in deuterium and also that our bones, our collagen is actually where the deuterium goes because deuterium holds things together. So for example, one molecule of deuterium
00:25:53
Speaker
is enough, has enough impact to actually change the chemical, like the physical property of 100 molecules around it. So it holds things in closer. And so the theory is that our bones, our collagen, anything that's really tough in our body is where the deuterium gets stored. And so if you're thinking about children's growth, it makes sense that while they're developing, while they're developing bones, that they need a lot more deuterium. And I also have a theory that women who are eating very ketogenic based diets,
00:26:23
Speaker
Um, and exercising a ton, they crave carbohydrates when they get pregnant and maybe this has something to do with deuterium. I'm not too sure. Yeah. Well, I was just going to ask you about the role of, of a pregnant mother's diet in, in, uh, potentially making more deuterium in the breast milk. So it's very interesting. Tell me a little bit about, um, about what you know about collagen and, and kind of from an exercise perspective or anatomical perspective, I think, um,
00:26:51
Speaker
you know, we can just tell people, you know, if you're injured, then you should eat more collagen. And then we can get down into the details of, you know, there's different types of collagen. I think you've got type one, two, and three. And then, you know, you can absorb it better if you're taking it with vitamin C. But, you know, there's much more to collagen than just that, right? Like you've got the role of red light in collagen. And then I think there are even some like, it's got piezoelectric and flexoelectric properties as well, right?
00:27:19
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. So piezoelectricity is that when we move, we actually make free electrons in our body. And so electrons is like the energy currency of the body. If people don't understand that, we get electrons from grounding and we get electrons from food as well. And then the photons from the sunlight allow us to actually utilize the electron energy by releasing biophotons into our body. And that's a whole other story. But electrons are super important and we can source them just by moving, which is ironic because we all sit at computers all day and don't move at all. So
00:27:49
Speaker
Another way we can get free energy. It's like collagen, like we can get into the anatomy and pull it all apart. But for me, it's like our body is actually one. And what collagen is actually doing is it's providing a superhighway for the body of communication. And I think I coined that phrase from Carrie Bennett, maybe. But collagen and fascia, it really is this pathway of communication through the body.
00:28:16
Speaker
And so that needs to be hydrated. So if we're looking from an athletic perspective, why is everyone tearing their ACL? Why is everyone having all of these chronic injuries? I think the Australian sports teams have had like the worst year ever with these types of injuries. And I think it's really because of they have such dehydrated collagen, such dehydrated fascia. And if something's dehydrated, like if you think of jerky, if it has a little bit of moisture in it, it's really hard, it's really chewy, it doesn't break. But if it's completely dehydrated, you can just snap it, right?
00:28:45
Speaker
And so I think that's the same with these joints, ligaments, sorry, ligaments, fascia, tendons in our body, when they become super dehydrated, we get issues, we get sports injuries. And what makes them dehydrated? Well, it's a lack of red light, because red light is actually what tells our mitochondria to produce more water and our cells to make more water. And when our cells are functioning optimally, making more water, everything's nice and hydrated.
00:29:10
Speaker
But because we're around, things that dehydrate us a lot more now, like power. My phone emits radiation, which dehydrates my body as well. And we never see the sunrise whenever outside. We're always inside under blue lights, no red.
00:29:27
Speaker
Yeah, we have problems with our fascia and all these things. And so basically we can talk about the sports injuries, but also it's really just cutting that quantum communication through our body. So we used to think communication happened purely off biochemistry, but it has a lot to do with like this quantum coherence. And so something that's really cool, and going back to Gerald Pollack again, he talks about how in his lab, he got a hydrophilic surface, so a tube, and he put it in water, and then he saw that there was flow.
00:29:56
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So without any energy input, well, the light was the energy input, but he was able to have a flow of water through this tube. And so he was like, I wonder if this happens in our body. And he did an experiment on a chick embryo and turns out it does. And so when we have a hydrophilic surface, um, and then meaning water loving hydrophilic. Yeah. And so easy water can actually form on those surfaces. So all the electrons stick to the hydrophilic surface and then all the protons.
00:30:26
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because, you know, water's made of hydrogen and oxygen, but what are they made out of? Electrons and protons. And so that actually splits, where does it get the energy to split from? From light, specifically red light. So we have all the electrons on each side of the tube all wrapped around and then we have this proton flush in the middle. So we really had this stream of protons pumping through.
00:30:49
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this tube. And that actually happens in our fascia in our body. It happens everywhere in our body. And so they're nanotubules, essentially. And that's actually communicating information through our body, causing proton flow. It's great for cardiovascular health. It's actually how blood moves through our body as well, independent of the heart. So that can actually cause blood to throw through our capillaries.
00:31:13
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There's something else I wanted to talk about too, but I completely forgot. Maybe I have to come back to it. But it's super important. And so if we're not around red light, we're not hydrated properly, we just don't have that communication. So we can see a lot of breakdown in different parts of our body. We can get more back pain. Different areas of our body can become more inflamed because they just don't have that water movement.
00:31:36
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Um, so talking about, well, again, many different tangents we could go down. Um, would it be appropriate to say that collagen is potentially like a fiber optic network in the body? Yeah. Very good. And so, uh, when we're, I guess, uh, you know, speaking again on that myofascial release and you know, one of my big focuses is posture, right? And.
00:32:04
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check. And I assume he stole this from yoga, but he describes posture as an antenna, right? And so if I'm, you know, standing upright in my, you know, starting, if we look at the foot, my, you know,
00:32:18
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all of these things, if we stand near a plumb line, my ear bisects my shoulder and you know, the foot or the knee goes over the foot and all of these things, then I'm receiving the frequency of that particular posture. If I'm in a kyphotic posture and I've got kind of this chest area closed down and my head's protruding forward and all of these things, then I'm receiving the energy of that particular posture like an antenna. An animal receives, say,
00:32:47
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A dog or a cow receives different information based on the fact that they're walking on all fours as opposed to walking on only two legs. And, you know, we can go even into, you know, the shape of our organs and how they receive different information based on their shape.
00:33:06
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Even at an anatomical level or a molecular level, we can see the shapes of things. No one really ever thinks to speak about the shape. I think it's becoming more popular now. It is very cool. Yeah. To cut a long story short, I would say
00:33:27
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I think two posture plays a big role in, and I know you're probably a little bit more into the functional pattern side of things and posture through functional patterns. And I think that's a great methodology.
00:33:43
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I went through a phase of like, of, of like sitting in courses where I felt like I had to sit upright and, you know, my breathing had to be right and stuff all the time. But, um, I think we tend to migrate back into, you know, into dysfunctional and, and it's, it's, it's a constant, you know, you need to be constantly working on these
Mind-Body Connection and Development
00:34:02
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things. But, uh, again, I see the connection between, you know, we were talking before I started recording about how, uh,
00:34:11
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about how our mind is...
00:34:14
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to me, it comes in first. And so I can do all the exercises that I want to do to, you know, pull my shoulders back and pull my head back and all of these things. But, um, if I'm someone of like low self-confidence or I'm sad, or if I'm super happy, then that's going to change my posture. Give someone a compliment, um, before they leave the gym and see how that changes their posture as opposed to, you know, all of the other exercises that we do to try and, uh, stiffen tissues. Yeah.
00:34:44
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Yeah, exactly. I think the posture thing is massive. And I think that just as we have like quantum coherence through fascia, it's like because we've lived so many years in like a dysfunctional posture, because we don't long, we no longer act like real men and women, as we're supposed to, through the choices we make in life, we have a poor quantum coherence in the posture in the structure of our body as well.
00:35:08
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And so that's a massive thing that we need to work on. And I know that Dr. Jalal Khan talks a lot about that with dentistry and teeth and cerebral spinal fluid and how that impacts specifically children's bodies as well. I'm a big fan of children seeing cranial osteopaths, especially straight after they're born and probably every day for like two weeks after they're born, just to really help that cranium develop properly so they can have properly developed straws and all these things. So I think in terms of posture, like you said, we always revert back to dysfunctional.
00:35:38
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Um, but it's actually, the funny thing is that it is functional, but it's functional because it's functional for our dysfunctional environment, right? So again, it's like our environment's making us sick. I just came up with that just then. That's really smart. Remind me about that in the future. Um, so if we put ourselves into a different environment, maybe we'll go back to functional. I don't know. But the key is like starting with children, making sure our children are set up for success. We always think, you know,
00:36:03
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Finances are what my child needs to be successful, but actually it's proper structure. It's the ability to critically think. It's to have good nutrition. It's all these other things that we don't often think about.
00:36:15
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And it ultimately comes back again to like the flow of energy throughout the body, right? So, you know, your focus is on light and I truly think that light is the foundation. But beyond that, we can look at how energy flows. You know, just talk about, just look at how energy flows through a kinked hose or even a bent hose. And, you know, as we, I guess,
00:36:38
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It's also important, I think, for me not to become neurotic about these things because we can get to a point where we say, I missed the sunrise this morning or, you know, like you said before, I've got you checking your posture. And it's like, there comes a point where, you know, I guess that's part of ingraining it into our subconscious or our unconscious is through, you know, making the little changes that we were talking about before and then slowly adapting over time.
00:37:05
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Exactly. And we're never going to be quote unquote perfect. And I feel like the only reason we suffer with this, oh, we have to be perfect is because we compare ourselves to people online all the time. And like, we're like, Oh, they must be this, they must be that. But really, they're not. And more often than not, that person actually doesn't even try to portray themselves in that way. It's just what happens when you're constantly posting the cool things that you do right online. So people can can see that and then through their own insecurity of maybe not being what they want to be in their own lives.
00:37:35
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they use it as a negative tool or whatever, right? But it's important to note that you really just have to reframe the way that you view yourself, that you view the world and you view energy flow, right? Because like you said, it all comes down to the mind and it's like understanding how the body actually works. And so that's why my phrase is the future of healthcare is education, because it's not that hard to understand. People will make the changes when they're ready, but once they have the education,
00:38:03
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they can start to undo the conditioning and then really be motivated by that. It's like, Oh, okay. You know, I can have flexibility in my diet. Like my mitochondria, I'm not losing weight because of X, Y, Z. It's not just the food. And, but ultimately as well, it always comes back to that emotional component of like, why do you not feel that you're worthy of good health? Why do you feel, um, why don't you do nice things for yourself? Why do you talk to yourself like that? Um, and you know, people are so busy in today's modern society and we will have different upbringings. And so our environment,
00:38:33
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through our interactions with other people as well, shape our neurocognitive behavior in the way we talk to ourselves. But also, you know, perhaps we don't have good traits about ourselves, and we actually need to change them. So for me, it's like, okay, so why do I do these things that I do? And it's like, well, well, I need to grow in that area, you know, I need to become more resilient, or I need to become more intentional with
00:38:57
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the way I do X, Y, Z. And so we do have to look inwards and be like, okay, what's the work I need to do on myself so I can have a better image of myself through doing better things. And then I believe that I'm worth more and I'm actually making the changes that I need because I'm really proud of who I am and I deserve good things. So that's not always the case, but it was for me and I know it is for a lot of people. So health is definitely multifaceted. You can get all the light you want in the world.
00:39:24
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But as you said, it's like what actually incentivizes you to get up every morning at 5am when the sun rises and that comes from.
00:39:32
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Yeah, it's, it's kind of funny. I was having a conversation with the client the other day and we're talking about what, what, what is self-love, right? And people have this kind of concept of self-love as like, it means that if I feel down, I go to the spa and then I go home and like lie in front of the TV and eat chocolate and drink wine. And it's like, no, that's, that is not self-love. I mean, you can do that for fun sometimes if you want to, but I like to explain it to people in that.
00:40:00
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Imagine that your child is having a temper tantrum at the dinner table and you say to them, and they want ice cream before they've eaten their meat and vegetables. And you say to them, look, you can have ice cream after that, but firstly, you need to eat your meat and vegetables because I love you and I want you to grow up and be healthy. And that's what it means to me to have love for yourself or to exercise self-love is to say, you know, while my
00:40:26
Speaker
my inner child or why my ego or whatever you want to call it might be having this tantrum and while it might be easier for me to go and, you know, drink or eat something that makes me feel better, you know, how can I treat myself? How can I call in my inner parent to parent myself? Yeah, yeah. And so, yeah, I think the concept of self-love has been like,
00:40:54
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I understand why people are turned off. It's like the same as this transgender normalization. It's just like this work movement that's not real. And you can do all the self-love you want, but it doesn't mean you actually love yourself. Yeah, that's not self-love. And one of the things I brought up was that's called self-obsession, not self-love.
Social Media and Personal Growth
00:41:22
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social media definitely has changed the way that we act, especially as men and women, right? Because men are more consumers, whereas women are more creators, I think, if that would be the sense, especially on social media. And so women are just of what they look like, you know, the new brand, this and that. And that's really just how social media and TikTok are shaping the minds of the younger generation to value those things.
00:41:50
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Um, and that was me for like the longest time, even when I was, you know, years ago when I was like, Oh, I want to, you know, do something in health. It's like, well, how do I make content? It's like, Oh, you have to look pretty and pour this coffee this way and post this aesthetic bowl of fruit. And it's like, yeah, actually no. Like when I went away for a year and I didn't do social media. Um, and I really just got true with myself and focused on education. Now I don't follow anyone that does that. I don't follow.
00:42:19
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person who posts that type of content and he like, um, you know, short form, really bright content. Like I can't do it because it really does shape the way you think. And then you become a consumer and a creator of that style of content through the way that it impacts your dopamine. Um, it makes me so angry, not angry, but it makes me just like sad when I see people in the health space still utilizing the same techniques of low dopamine, um, social media use, but with the slight, like some
00:42:48
Speaker
message or something like that. Because for me, it's just not really embodying the whole movement. Like for me, that's like, with with the quantum health, it also comes with a bit of a sovereignty mindset of opting out of the matrix system of the consumerism of the social media use, because all of this is, it's literally breaking our soul. Like it's making our connection with ourselves. And it's also breaking our connection with source and each other. And
00:43:16
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And so when you understand that, you kind of tap out of that. But I forget what I was trying to say, but basically social media is like ruining the next generation. And it's only when you actually stop consuming that you actually can look back at that content and be like, wow, I can't even believe that I enjoyed that. Or I thought that's what a normal person's face looks like, because it's, it's not. And then, you know, we can get trapped in this
00:43:37
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That's what I was saying, and we can get trapped in this mode of comparison, where I'm comparing myself to all this person, all that person, and it's not productive at all, and it's really hurting our self-esteem, and then making us fall into this comparison society, where that's what we're focused on. We're not really focused on true health. We're focused on that lens, which has been fed to us through our environment. That really made sense. Yeah, it does, it does. And I think that's where you get,
00:44:07
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You know, we were speaking beforehand as well about kind of screening clients and, and you know, the type of client that you get, whether you have to tell them, you know, 50 different times to do the same thing. And it's the same thing every session. And it kind of depends again, maybe back to that self-love thing or, or, you know, there's, there's many, many different aspects of it, but you know, some people will just come to you for weight loss and some people will come to you for, you know, leptin resistance or, or,
00:44:36
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you know, uh, tuning up their hormones or whatever it is, but ultimately it comes down to like personal, spiritual, like psychological development, right? Like that's the ultimate client that you want is not someone who's just, I mean, it's, it's great to get paid and, and you know, I think, I think looking nice and, you know, being at a good weight and all of these things help build our self-esteem and help us feel good about ourselves. But you can go and see someone who counts their calories to lose weight as well.
00:45:08
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Yeah, exactly. And for me, that's such a force. Like if you have to rely on calories to dictate your weight, like you have an issue with your mitochondria, 100% and your quantum coherence, but that's another story. It ultimately just comes back down to like the same concepts, education, and really as a coach, it's like molding to that person and what you think that they need. Like the more and more I get into coaching, I'm like, it's all intuitive. It's all intuitive. Your one session with someone will be completely different to the way you interact with someone else.
00:45:38
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And it's all client-led. I can tell a client one thing in that second week of working together, and then three months later, they'll be like, Oh, Kira, I've been learning about this. I think I want to implement this. I'm like, Okay, great, because that's the seed planting, and then you see that come to fruition. But yeah, so, but really, really, what you're doing is you're just reconnecting. Well, something that I like to view Quantum Health as is reconnecting people with their themselves and their higher selves.
00:46:05
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And so when we get the right light, we can start making the right hormones, we can feel good, you know, light makes serotonin in our body, oculi. So that's really important as well. And that can aid, you know, the self development side of things as well. But ultimately, it just, it does come back down to reconnecting with yourself, viewing the world in a different lens, undoing conditioning, and then learning how the body really works, implementing these things and
00:46:33
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getting back in touch with nature with the real world and siphoning out of this AI stuff that's being fed to us. Like how can any person on this planet feel happy and good with the current, like if they're in that world of constant social media use, financial struggles, watching the news, hearing about the wars, like how, how, how is anyone going to feel happy and wake up like, Oh, I'm going to go watch the sunrise today. Somehow I've managed to do it and some other people do.
00:47:02
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But like on the, it's, it's hard. It's becoming so hard. Everywhere you look, even the other day I had to go into a grocery store and I was like, why do I feel like crying? Oh, because they're playing some depressing song about a breakup. It's like everywhere our environment is conditioning us. And so it's just tapping out and making a new environment to yourself. That's for yourself. That's supportive of your function because the environment we're living in today is in my opinion, complete BS. It's designed to drain us of that energy.
00:47:29
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It's designed to control the way we think, the way we feel, the way we interact with each other and disconnect us from our soul and connect us with some alternate reality. That's not life. That's not how humans are designed to function by any means. And so we're at that tipping point now. People are starting to remember who we are and what we're meant to be and how we're meant to function. And then the people that don't, well, then maybe that's just evolution, unfortunately.
00:47:55
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Yeah, I completely agree. Um, on the topic of intuition, because I find this a really interesting topic. Um, and, and I think, I think it's great to have knowledge and I think, you know, I, I never want to stop learning and, and I don't want to say, um, I can only be intuitive, but one of the techniques that I've learned is, is actually muscle testing. And I know Jalal, um, does a little bit of muscle testing or kinesiology now as well, but it's kind of interesting on that topic and talking about diet.
00:48:25
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I learned through, through check, you know, when picking food, he teaches what's called a duck bill test, or there's this other one where you pull your hands apart. And again, a woo-woo topic and you know, some people will tune out and.
00:48:38
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You know, just think this whole podcast is garbage because of this, but you can, you can, you can train yourself to feel a yes and a no, like you were talking about with Vader Austin, where you ask yourself, you know, is should I eat pork today? And you can feel a yes or a no. A yes is normally associated with a stronger duck bill and a no is normally a weaker one. Right. And so as you kind of get healthier in your body and you start cleaning up a little bit, you start redoxing and, and, you know,
00:49:07
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getting all of the systems back online, the more intuitive you become and the more you're able to, you get to a point where you don't have to do the muscle testing anymore. You can do, you know, you can just ask yourself and you can feel it within yourself before you, you know, before you even do the test. I think in times of high stress, where, you know, we're more sympathetic and blood flow is more to that right or left, I think it's the left side of the brain where we've become more kind of logical and linear, we need to start
00:49:37
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you know, regressing back in, you know, our muscle testing and that sort of stuff. But if you're in a calm and relaxed state, then and you're healthy already, then your intuition should be firing on all cylinders. Yeah, definitely. And I think the more you use your intuition kind of like a muscle, I mean, where we are literally born blind to 99% of the electromagnetic spectrum around us. So the visible spectrum of light that we can actually see is only 1%
00:50:03
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of the entire spectrum. And so we are born blind to 99% of the earth around us. We can't even see it. So different animals can see different spectrums of light. And so they have a completely different view on reality than we do. You only have to put on a pair of those nighttime goggles and you see everything in infrared. So that's kind of the way that I see it. And so intuition is a real thing. And I think our mitochondria have a lot to do with that.
00:50:30
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we can actually sense things that our eyes can't actually see. And I think that's where religion, faith, intuition all stems from. And it definitely is real. And with muscle testing, I think that's a beautiful way to tap into, to talk with your body, to talk with the subconscious. I think kinesiology is great if it's done properly. But even just in everyday things, like our body, it's this whole concept of our body working for us rather than against us. Like, for example,
00:50:57
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Tristan and I were hiking in Iceland. And it was like 2am in the morning. And we're hiking back from this hot spring. And we had this big rental car. And I put the keys in the bag and I was so worried that I was going to lose the keys. I just felt like I was going to lose these keys. And then we're walking and the wind's blowing and it's pouring down rain. And I just hear this. Like I couldn't hear a single thing. I couldn't hear him talking. I hear keys rattling. Just I heard keys rattling. I'm like, oh, the keys. And I put my hand at the bottom of the bag to try and like pull him back so I could
00:51:28
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check the keys. And the keys literally fell into my hand. And so one of the pockets at the bottom literally was opened and the keys were about to fall out. And if we lost them, we would have literally had to pay maybe like $25,000 or something. And did it like two o'clock in the morning in Iceland in the most expensive place in the entire world. Like intuition definitely is real. And I think that when we tap out of quantum noise, like that's, that's something that I love to talk about is that
00:51:54
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Even on social media, like we're actually connecting with every person that we see on a quantum level. We don't think it, but when on earth can I constantly see everyone else's views? A hundred people in one minute. It's impossible, never through history. And so we're used to being in tribes and being connected to those people because we needed that for survival. And so our thoughts were quantumly entangled. We kind of shared this intuitive collective consciousness, right? But now we're sharing this collective consciousness with the whole entire world.
00:52:22
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and views that we necessarily don't deeply align with, but yet this is dictating our behavior. And so kind of like you were talking about the kinked hose, if we kink a hose, we put a little, we have a running hose, like let's say we have a running hose, and then I go and put little cups in it. And so I have little bits of water coming out everywhere. And then by the time the water comes out the top, it's such a low pressure, right? Because I'm losing all this water. And you can think about it like your energy.
00:52:50
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When you're connecting with all these people in everyday life on a scale that we never have been able to do before, we're actually losing little bits of energy. And it's diminishing not only our own energy, but our quantum impact on the world. So it's diminishing our voice, our power, and then also alternating our thoughts. And so that's really something to contemplate on as well. And so when you remove all these things, you actually can connect to your own thoughts, your own intuition, your own views, and actually become
00:53:19
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solidified in who you are at the deepest level, because you're not constantly being impacted by everyone else, right? Yeah. Um, you know, we talked again before the podcast started. No, no, no, that was awesome. I love it. Um, again, before the podcast started, we were talking about masculine and feminine roles, and you kind of brought up those with that concept a couple of
Intuition, Gender, and Environment
00:53:46
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times. And
00:53:47
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It's interesting on the topic of intuition that women have, like physically in their brain, 30% more commissarial fibers between the left and right hemispheres. And I've heard it said that they need a greater connection between those hemispheres because, you know, you need to know what your kids are doing at all times if you're a mother. So I kind of think that that's interesting. I think that
00:54:14
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you know, there's a saying mother's intuition. And I remember my mum as a kid, um, I remember coming home and being like, I feel like this bad thing was going to happen. And you know, it happened. And my mum saying like, you know, I know that my intuition works and you need to start listening to yours. Um, and it was, it's probably something trivial at the time, but, um, I kind of find it interesting that, uh, I think women are probably more tapped into their intuition than a lot of men.
00:54:40
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think so. And I think I mean, I was reading a journal not long ago about how women so something that I see commonly in clients is that if a family they move from one place to another, like I have clients that move from I think it was Alaska to, to from a farm somewhere to Florida. And so they're living in townhouses. And when this happens, I see that the women get sick a lot quicker than the men. And so the men, you know, the women usually comes to me like I'm putting on weight or have chronic fatigue and I can't be a mom anymore.
00:55:10
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Um, because I'm so ill and the husband's like, yeah, I don't know what's wrong with her. Like she hasn't changed her diet, like this or that. Can you fix her? And I'm like, it's going to happen to you too, but on a slower rate because women are more sensitive to their environment. Um, and so when we have, so women actually have higher percentage of body fat, everyone knows that science. Um, but we also have higher levels of leptin because leptin is secreted by our white adipose tissue. And so more white adipose tissue means more leptin. And so leptin is actually also a cytokine.
00:55:39
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So we have more cytokines as women and it's like, okay, well then why do we have that? Well, it's because we have the job of transferring our mitochondria onto our children. And so our mitochondria needs to be very well adapted to the environment in which we are in, right? So we need to be sensing a lot of signals from our environment and also to keep our children safe. Like if we're pregnant and, you know, we sense danger through our intuition, through our mitochondria, through our body, sensing our environment that we can and can't see.
00:56:09
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We need to go because we're carrying the child. We need to be safe. And so it's not by mistake that God's like, oh, yeah, women are going to just be fatter. That's just the way that life is for women. It's like, no, God did that because he knows that women need to have this intuition. And with that comes a higher level of cytokines, a higher level of leptin. I mean, so I think that's directly correlated with the ability to sense intuition. But it's also correlated with women becoming sicker,
00:56:37
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more quickly when they do the wrong things, um, depending on their body and where they're living. Um, and that's also a signal. Like even now, looking at what I just said, it's like still the woman is being the signal for the man that, okay, something's wrong. And then they found me and I'm teaching them about their environment. So women know best. Just kidding. But, um, it is funny. That is funny. Um, what's that? Sorry. Maybe not kidding.
00:57:05
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Oh no, I think that, I think that men and women have their own different strengths. And I'm, again, like we were talking about before the podcast, or before we started recording, I think that we kind of need to play to our strengths more and, and stop. Um, you know, we're, we're so much in competition with each other. Um, and I think that's by design a little bit, you know, um,
00:57:30
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We don't, men and women, I mean, it's great if we're competing on things that we enjoy competing in, but I don't need to compete with a woman on who's going to be, you know, a better mother. And I don't think a woman should compete with me in the gym to see who's stronger. I mean, that's not to say that there aren't a lot of women who are stronger than me in the world, but, you know, what are your thoughts on that?
00:57:55
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I think that what you said is right, women and women have different strengths. And, you know, I just pulled out one of them, which isn't really arguable, it's science. Well, that's actually so funny. I just said that. So I definitely arguable, choose the science you listen to. But this is fact, like even science admits that this is real. So that's a perfect example of women and men working in synergy and not being separate from each other. But
00:58:23
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working as one, so the woman's more sensitive to the environment, she's carrying the child. And so when you're carrying child, when you're with child, you need to have very low stress levels, because that's going to impact baby and the way that it develops. You know, you don't want to be falling over, you don't want to be carrying heavy things, because that's all going to put you at a greater risk of termination with child. And so it's actually the man's responsibility to be biologically equipped to then take the stage and provide for the woman and for baby, right?
00:58:52
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And that's how they work perfectly together. The woman is gonna be at a deficit if she tries to do it all on her own. Her baby's going to suffer because she's gonna be under more stress, right? There's more, a higher, not that women can't do that, we definitely can. But the likelihood that something's going to go wrong is much greater. And likewise for the man, he can't do the same thing on his own. And so they come together to support each other's weaknesses and then overall be a strong family unit and a strength.
00:59:22
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And so that's just one example of that. What I see happening now is kind of like what you said, it's like everyone thinks that everything should be even. And that's like this equality movement that's happening. It's like men and women need to be the same, you know, spend the same time with the children. They need to have equal incomes, you know, they need to equally be emotionally mature and all these things. And it just doesn't work like that, because men and women have different strengths. And so
00:59:48
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If we try to do everything on our own, it's very, very hard. Why wouldn't we split the low between two people, trust each other, and then come together to build something beautiful? But obviously, through our environment, I think that we've really lost touch with what it means to be ourselves and each other. And don't get me wrong, there's this whole homesteading movement at the moment online. And it's like, women should be staying at home moms and XYZ. And that's great.
01:00:15
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And I do definitely believe that women should be at home looking after baby and serving her husband and then God. But we also forget that a lot of the reason why women started working in the first place was because they weren't treated very well by their husbands. You know, domestic violence in the home is real, especially with the introduction of alcohol. And so women couldn't leave that environment. And so they had to work to become independent to be able to support themselves and give their children a home where they weren't seeing abuse.
01:00:45
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you know, where their environment wasn't dictating, you know, poor preconceived beliefs, setting them up for adulthood. So I think it's really important to acknowledge that. And then also like take the focus on I see, especially on Twitter all the time, it's like men and women just complaining about each other. It's like, let's stop complaining about each other and telling each other how to act because we've never been, I've never been a man, and you've never been a girl. So like, let's stop telling each other how to act. And instead, focus on being the best person that we can possibly be.
01:01:16
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So for me, it's like focusing on being the healthiest that I can be so that one day when I have a baby, like it's going to be healthy. Focus on doing what I can to support my family financially. Focus on learning, on doing the work. You know, men might focus on the same things. Understanding his preconceived beliefs, building his ideology, his values, his connection with God and having that mentality of I'm working on myself to be the best that I can be.
01:01:43
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and not wasting time on social media complaining about the other gender. Like to me, that's not, that shouldn't be a value that anyone embodies. Like that's never been a thing in all of history. And instead we need to take that energy, be the best that we possibly can be, come up with a really strong value set for ourselves and hold ourselves accountable in the eyes of God as well. Try to have a connection with God, build your relationship because that's so important and that makes you a better husband. It makes you a better wife and breeds a really good,
01:02:13
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good loving environment. So I think that is really challenging with our environment that we're in today. But taking yourself out of that place of social media, really working on yourself, you know, actually looking in the mirror, getting clear on your values is what we need to do. And then I think that getting a health back and everything else will kind of flow naturally. And it'll be a big progression forward, but at least, you know, things are changing now. It's not going in that direction, which we were running into very quickly. But I don't know your thoughts on that.
01:02:40
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Have you ever looked into the concept of archetypes? Yung was someone who really popularized archetypes, but there were people before him who I'm sure discovered that concept, maybe not with the same word, but before him? No, I haven't, but you can tell me about them. Yeah, so I bring it up because archetypes are really what are described as like the root language of consciousness, right? And so before
01:03:09
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Before we had the ability to travel between countries or across continents, different tribes had the same role. So you had the queen of the tribe, you had the king of the tribe or matriarchal and patriarchal leaders, you had the medicine man, you had warriors, you had mothers and fathers. And if we were to look at the difference between those roles in
01:03:34
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maybe Australia and somewhere India, we would find that those roles were shared across those tribes. And so there's some really interesting work done by Jung and other people, like there's a lady called Caroline Miss or Mace, and I believe she's a medical doctor. I don't know if she practices anymore, but they talk about kind of how to embody that archetype. And then they talk about the light and the shadow of that archetype.
01:04:04
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And so, you know, you can, it's kind of interesting when you look at, I think Pran shared something recently on Instagram about,
01:04:15
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There's a book called King Warrior, Magician Lover. And, you know, we see, I think the world is longing for, you know, the return of a king in some way. And you might say if you're religious that Jesus is king. And that's the longing that everyone is having for the return of. But when we look at the, you know, the king in what they would describe as wholeness,
01:04:39
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We all kind of have that concept of a king like that. You might just say Jesus is the epitome of that. And then you've got...
01:04:48
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you know, the king in his shadow aspects. And so you've got, you know, the tyrant and then you've got, I think, the weakling or something like that. And so you can see potentially in our governments how there's tyrannical kings or how there are, you know, people taking advantage of their power. And I think, again, maybe I'm speaking too much on this topic, but we need to really go back and look at, like,
01:05:18
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archetypal roles of mothers and fathers or men and women and see, uh, see how, you know, how we can put a modern spin on those sorts of things, because a lot of us are trying to play two roles at the same time and it's, it's not working for people. Yeah, I agree. I think the archetypes are very interesting. Um, I think that through a Christian, for your point, it's like your, each person should have a relationship with God and then you have the relationship with each other.
01:05:48
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And that kind of goes God, the husband leading the household, the women, and then the women leads the children. Um, and so that's the archetype that I resonate with and believe in. Um, but that structure is very similar across religions. Um, there's a theory that, I don't know if I'll go there. There's a theory that, um, I'm just not going to go there because it's going to give us another like 40 minute discussion and it's just going to be God. I've got plenty of time. So there's a theory that, um,
01:06:19
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And so my journey, so I was raised Christian by my grandmother, and then I kind of lost my walk with God.
Spirituality, Archetypes, and Gender Roles
01:06:26
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And then I learned about light and health. And this kind of brought me back into Christianity through understanding that light is consciousness. And, you know, in the Bible, it says those who walk with me walk with the light and she'll see no darkness and comprehend all things. And so understanding lights mentioned 525 times in the Bible.
01:06:48
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And to me, that's no mistake. I think that God can present himself through light. And when God says, we, we all have him in us. And so we all have light. And so I think that God is light and God can transcend through light. And so, um, yeah, I believe that's what all connects us together. And that when we're around artificial light all the time, I mean, the Apple logo is literally a bitten apple. Um, and the first ever logo of the Apple company, um,
01:07:17
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which had a lot to do with the Gates family actually, is literally a picture of Eve eating an apple under a tree. And if I look at the studies that were done around that time, I'm like, okay, so I'm really understanding that light literally can make us depressed, anxious, suicidal, all these things, right? So that's a whole nother story. But to me, it's like the closer we get to light,
01:07:37
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the closer we get to consciousness, we can comprehend all things because we can tap into our collective consciousness again, which is everything that we forgot, right? And so when you take people away from light, you're taking them away from God. So that's my opinion on that. But I also think that all these different archetypes or these different religions perhaps also may be true. And so if you think of the world as being worlds within worlds,
01:08:01
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You know, India being a world within this world, separate to Australia, but now we're able to travel lands, so travel worlds that may be God presented himself in different ways for different cultures. And so that's the representation. Now we're all fighting about who's God's right, but actually the messaging is very similar. Maybe it's been recounted a little bit differently, but I don't know. That's what I was going to say, because I think it's very interesting.
01:08:28
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But yeah, so my structure is the Christian structure. That's my archetype. And it's just like what I said before, it's like the splitting, you know, you talk about women doing too much and this affects their health. Because it's true, like going back to what we said about women with the mitochondria and having higher cytokines, it's like we can't undergo as much stress as men before we burn out. Like our toxic threshold is already naturally high. And that's been given to us by God. So we actually can't hold as much of the stressful tasks as a man can.
01:08:58
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Um, but now we're trying to, we're doing just as much, if not more than men now, because we're raising a family and this is just on average, I'm not judging the whole planet. Um, but I say, see women working all day, coming home, picking their kids up from school, making dinner, doing the washing and going to bed late. And then men are just, I'm not going to say men are just working, but like they working and then maybe they'll, you know, complain and, and row the lawn on the weekend. This is kind of just from my upbringing that I'm basing these beers off. I'm sure there's a lot of men that don't do that. And a lot of women that don't do that.
01:09:27
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And roles are probably reversed in a lot of ways, don't get me wrong. And depending on what country you're in, things will be very differently. This is kind of a reflection of like a typical Australian, I think, at the moment, which Nick and I kind of understand. So yeah, don't think that I'm being judgmental. I'm 100% not. But so women are kind of swapped places. We're taking on a lot of the stress, as well as women are supposed to console men emotionally. So they're still doing all of these
01:09:56
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playing all of these hearts and all of these archetypes, which can lead to more increased stress levels, which leads to infertility, right? Because when women are really stressed biologically, that sets off a cascade of events, which actually signals to our body to make us infertile.
01:10:12
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via using pregnenolone, which is the precursor for our fertility hormones and also cortisol to make more cortisol to keep us safe. So it's like, here is really stress right now, not a good time for her to have a baby, except for my body doesn't know that I just don't like my life. And I'm really stressed that I'm not actually running away from a tiger, but the outcome is the same, which is infertility. And so I feel like that's why we're seeing a lot of childhood illness, because that stress also impacts the quality of the mitochondria that we're giving to the children, and then also infertility as well.
01:10:42
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Um, so yeah, I definitely think there's a breakdown there and women are definitely trying to do too much at once. Yeah. And, uh, I certainly don't think women are to blame for that. And kind of, I very bluntly said before the podcast, um, how I kind of blamed a lot of disease on what I described as, as boss bitch mentality. And it, to me, it's kind of like, it's, it's certainly not women's fault. And I think, um,
01:11:08
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I certainly need to also work on my delivery of it. But what I mean is that women have a lot of pressure on them to live up to certain expectations. And like he said, they're not biologically designed to manage as much stress as a man. Although again, I'm sure there are women out there who can manage a lot more stress than I can and many other men. But, you know, kind of on the other side of that and talking about programming,
01:11:38
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You know, we kind of...
01:11:44
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And maybe it's talking archetypal, archetypally and, you know, about the return of the King and all these things. But if I turn on the TV and watch a show, like think of a show where there's a family involved, modern family, the Simpsons, uh, family guy, everybody loves Raymond. Dad is a complete retard idiot and mum holds the household together. Am I right or not? And so that's basically how.
01:12:12
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I think that's really exemplary of the way a lot of families are run. We're kind of in a terrible place where men and women, we don't know what our roles are and I don't know whether I really claim
01:12:34
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to be able to, to know that. But what I see is, is those roles being enacted in society and things not working. And, you know, women rightfully complaining that they can't find a good man and men just, you know, basically drinking beer in front of the TV and wondering why they're, you know, their only set source of enjoyment in life is like watching other men play sport while they drink beer. Yeah, it's a bit of an issue, isn't it?
01:13:03
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I mean, it's the same for women too, like on social media, it's like everyone's just focused on consumerism and, you know, who can look like this and who can have the bigger bum and all these things. And I'm so thankful that I made it out of that. But as a young woman, it was super hard. And I was definitely trapped in that mindset of
01:13:24
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narcissism, really. It's almost a form of narcissism and like selfishness and self obsession, I think. Obsession versus self love. Yeah. That's it. Back to that again. Yeah. Of breeding into us and then men as well. Like it's kind of men's club and women's club at the moment. And we don't really have these family units where that's the source of protection and unity because there's more protection and consistency in friend groups now than there is in a family home. Um,
01:13:53
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And so I feel like from women's mentality, I know a lot of, I know a few females that are, um, you know, building houses on their own, they're doing all these things on their own because they're like, Oh, I can't find a good man. But also it's looking at yourself, your behaviors. Like, what are you doing? Are you living in alignment? Because now I know that our reality is a reflection of us. So if I can't find X, Y, Z, I know that I am not embodying those values in myself, um, or
01:14:20
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the reality that we've been given. So even social media affects the way that we think, like you're talking about the Simpsons and all these things. Like that's actually paving the way that we see reality. So our dads are never around us. Our mum's always at work. We're being raised by children, daycare workers. And then how do we build our psychological view of family units? Well, that's through the Simpsons. It's through TV that we watch all day.
01:14:44
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So that's our preconditioned notion to think that that's normal and what we're going to receive in life. But that's actually just not true. But if you have that mentality, like that's all you're ever going to get. Like I always tell women that I coach, I say, if you're struggling to find someone to love,
01:15:01
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you need to first love yourself and stop listening to Cardi B and start listening to love songs. If you're listening to like songs about men being, you know, cheating on women and all these things, and you're actively like singing that and you're driving around and like that's actually speaking words into reality and paving your reality. So that's not going to do anyone any good. You need to really, again, just tap out of the matrix, tap out of the subliminal programming and think for yourself and manifest a life that
Media Influence and Personal Relationships
01:15:29
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you want. And that's not going to come from watching
01:15:31
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no horror shows or reality TV or, um, listening to Cardi B. It's just not going to give you the reality that you want deep down. So you need to change that in all honesty. Um, I think in, in, in some ways, uh, and I would like to know your perspective on this, but it's, it's almost become taboo for
01:15:56
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for a woman to say, I want a masculine man and I want, like if they want to be a stay at home mum or if they want to work, you know, full time or whatever it is, just to say, this is what I want. I want a masculine man who does this. And for men to say, if they want a feminine woman who, you know, stays at home or however, does whatever she wants, whatever it is, it's taboo to even say that because we've strayed so far from gender roles and
01:16:25
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You know, not to say I'm being ultra careful again, because I don't want like to offend anyone. And that's, that's not my intention at all. But I think, you know, if women are saying, I can't find a good man and men are saying, I can't find a good woman, then potentially that's because you're, you're looking in the wrong places because you're not putting it out there. Right. Exactly. And it's like, what are you doing? Like, for example, um,
01:16:53
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19 year old me was like, I can't find a good man. And what was I doing? It's like, I was going like to the club with my friends on the weekend, mind you, I didn't drink, but I was just doing that because that's what my friends did. And that's what we did. And it's like, is my husband going to be sitting at a bar drinking probably because that's not what I want. Or is he going to have the values that I want in somebody? Absolutely not. Because those type of people aren't going to the pub on the weekend. They're like,
01:17:18
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don't know, listening to Conebalogy podcast at like Saturday night at 8am taking notes. So that's kind of how that goes. It's like, are you looking in the right places? And I just think it comes down to yourself and building relationship with God or a relationship with your strong value sets. And then the right person will be given to you. I don't think that it comes from forcing. I feel like it comes from just working on yourself, making sure you're living alone and being the best that you can. Like if I was
01:17:47
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like making sure you're ready so that when the right person comes along, it's like, are you able to be the best wife that you can be or the best husband that you can be? We're in such a selfish nature where it's like one, one, one, and it's not what can I give? And we can talk about gender roles, but it all comes down to love at the end of the day.
01:18:05
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It's like if my husband breaks his back and can't work 100%, I'm going to be working. And if my husband, you know, my friend's husband is a police officer, and now she's working full time and he's home with the kids because he has PTSD and needs to take two years off. So really, it looks what the gender roles looks like is for everyone. And it all comes back down to love and finding values that
01:18:26
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you both align with. So for me, it's like, I know that I want to farm and I know that this is the type of life that I want. But I also know it's extremely expensive to buy that. And so I'm like, if I can build like a side hustle or something where I can have high ROI on the side and be at home with the kids, and then help my husband financially to get our dream, like 100%, I'm going to be doing that. It can, it can put a lot of pressure on females to fulfill a role like that. And it is hard.
01:18:53
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But that's what I'm working towards while I'm waiting for that time in my life. And so it just comes back down to benefiting yourself, working on yourself really, and setting yourself up for success rather than trying to force something. And that's my opinion, like people are probably wrong, probably wrong. I don't think so. I mean, like, of course, everyone has their own opinion. And maybe a lot of people who listen to this will think that but I certainly don't.
01:19:22
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It's also kind of interesting you brought up like the transgender stuff before and we were talking also about Jung before and he said that men have a more feminine soul and women have a more masculine soul. And so
01:19:39
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Um, you know, speaking about he, he said for a man to be fully man, he has to integrate his feminine. And for a woman to be fully woman, she has to integrate her masculine and people get so confused when they hear that because they think, Oh, well, if I'm a man, that means that I need to start, um, you know, whatever it is wearing makeup or, or, um,
01:20:03
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you know, whatever they attribute to being a feminine characteristic when what he actually meant was, you know, bringing in more of the nurturing side of yourself if you're a male. So potentially, you know, learning to cook for yourself or, you know, recovering better, you know, making sure your sleep is good, all of these things where, you know, a lot of men probably have been like this before just,
01:20:29
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tend to want to just do the fiery sort of stuff, like the go-go-go yang side of things. And you can only get to so far before you start to burn out. I was talking to a man yesterday, what's his name?
01:20:48
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Scott Wilson, and he's a gentleman from, you should actually have him on the podcast, from Sydney. He works in Bondi at a gym. But he talks, he's into quantum and stuff as well heavily. But he was talking to me about, this is actually so interesting, because now I understand what he was saying, because of the pieces that you've added in.
01:21:04
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But he talks about, you know, as a man, he said, I'm very healthy. I have high testosterone. I'm very fiery. He's like, what is it? Am I going to be a good dad if I come home or fight up at the end of the day? And I'm like, oh, and I've just, you know, been boxing and lifting weights and listening to heavy metal. He's like, no. So for me, I need to the way that I train is a reflection of that. So I need to de-stress. I need to calm down so that I can go home and be a good husband and a good dad to my children.
01:21:30
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And to me, that kind of makes sense with what you were saying about the feminine side of a male as well. So, yeah, it's so hard, right? Because men got told, like, don't cry, don't do this, don't do that. But I feel like we're so far on the other end. And it's just like... Oh, yeah. Yes. And that's gone too far now. But I think people are so confused by the words masculine and feminine. What even are those words? Like, where did they come from?
01:22:00
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Well, they're just, they're Western words for like yin and yang, right? So yin is feminine and yang is masculine. And so like coffee is a yang substance that will excite my nervous system, whereas water would be more yin substance. So that would
01:22:21
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or cortisol is yang, melatonin is yin. When I think of yin and yang, I had to kind of move that because I grew up in this era of very much like, oh, women are too masculine or feminine, all these things. But I was like, they're just words, but we give them so much power. For me, yin and yang is light and day. And so it's the act of creation and the act of slumber and the act of restorative work.
01:22:45
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So I kind of like to see it as those two things rather than seeing masculine and feminine. I don't know, it makes sense to me just because there's so many preconceived ideas of these words and it just, in terms of the way that I associate those words with how I'm using it in speech, if that makes sense. Yeah, I guess part of the work that I do with clients is explaining it. And so that's like, I have literally a diagram of a table where I've got like,
01:23:13
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white would be yang on probably the right side because the right side of the body is the masculine or yang side. And yin would be the darker feminine side. And so you've got sympathetic on the right side, you've got parasympathetic on the left and daytime on the right side, nighttime on the left. And so you're balancing these things.
01:23:36
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I mean, it's not about balancing them 50-50 or one-third, two-thirds, it's individual, right? And it comes
Aging, Self-Worth, and Societal Expectations
01:23:46
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out at different times in life too. We also see the oscillation, like some of us, like heated moments of your life.
01:23:53
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or moments where you're in a very restorative phase, I feel as well. And it's like, if you've been in a very activated stage, like that's fine, but it's like when it becomes chronic and prolonged that it becomes dysfunctional and then you need to balance that again. I don't know. Does that kind of sound right? It does. Yeah. And, and again, what you start to see in, in men, I believe until you're 30 years old, your testosterone peaks around 30 and then it starts to decline and then at around 50.
01:24:21
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I think it starts to decline more steeply, maybe 10% per year or something like that. And what you see in women when they go through menopause is that their testosterone actually starts to increase. And so you see a physical changing of polarity as well, where women, like Maggie Young said, more metaphorically start to become a little bit more masculine and they're physically driven to by the hormones and men start to become more feminine because that's the way things are meant to be.
01:24:50
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If you became the elder in a tribe, you couldn't be the elder and be the king and be like going out and fighting wars and all of these things. You had to become the wise old man where you're just sitting there and you're not worried about getting knocked off your perch anymore because you're past that stage. And so I think also for women developing, you see, I don't know if you've experienced this yourself, but
01:25:20
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women in gym develop far more confidence in themselves because once you start to feel that physical strength, you become a little bit more Yang, you start to feel like less vulnerable, I would say. And so, um, you know, these, these, yeah, it's, it's about integrating and it's about, I guess, understanding things a little bit more than just surface level. Does that make sense?
01:25:45
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I definitely think so. And I think the polarity is more noticeable now because men, their testosterone is not high. And so for women, it's like they can easily be seen to be more aggressive than men or more masculine than men. But really, I think our observations are based off very unhealthy people. By going back to the menopause that you were talking about, I like to explain to women, it's funny that you explain it kind of the same way.
01:26:10
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I said, like, that's your time from creating life to now teaching grandchildren and instilling wisdom into them. So it's like your creation time's over and now you're passing on your information. And that's like a different, that requires different hormones. And so that's, you know, you get given your wisdom body is what I say. So I think we have such a negative connotation with like aging and all these things, but I think it's something that like we need to embrace, but
01:26:34
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Yeah. The whole, the whole love situation in men and women is very, you know, we could talk about it for such a long time. Um, but I truly believe like through experience that just building your connection with your own values with God goes a long way. Um, then thinking and putting lots of energy into like controlling the other gender or judging them or all of these things. Um, when you actually become the best version of yourself, like that's so you become so strong in your beliefs and you become invincible.
01:27:04
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Um, really. And so, yeah, I think that's something that everyone should embody, which people say on social media a lot, but no one's actually really doing it. Like after meeting all these people in real life, I'm like, Oh, wow. You're so different. Um, yeah. Yeah. I, maybe the last thing I say on this, but, and it, and it's, it's kind of a joke, but I heard, um, a guy I follow was, was, um,
01:27:29
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He was teaching holistic health for a long time and sort of went more on the philosophical side of things, but, um, he was taking TRT for a while and he came off and he's probably nearly 50 now. He might be in his mid forties and he said, he's like, well, people don't realize is that TRT for men past their prime or men in their forties or fifties is like a woman in her forties or fifties getting breast implants. And he's like, there's these people like, you know, just.
01:27:58
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He's like, they're acting like they're, they're still little kids or, or they're still like in their youth when they should be accepting the fact that they're just aging and age gracefully. Yeah, I definitely agree. And again, it comes from that hyper fixation, what we look like, um, rather than what we can give and what we can produce, um, for other people. So yeah, we're not going to be pretty forever. That's just the way that it is.
01:28:26
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And so you better find someone that loves you to stick through that period of life with you. Yeah. Well, I mean, I guess that's also another side of the coin, right? Is like you're, you kind of focused on your outward appearance for a certain amount of years. Like we all want to look attractive for as long as we can. But once you hit that time, it's time to go inwards and focus more on your, and it
01:28:56
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It's great if you're developing the inner side of you already, I think everyone should be, but at the time where you start really losing your looks and losing the physical. For men, it's more strength than looks, right? Like women, a lot of their value is in their beauty, but for men, it's in their strength. And so for men, when you start losing your strength, it's also time to start going inwards and that's just that time. I think that's a reflection of society as well. We're so focused on the mirror and I don't think that that's
01:29:25
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know, even we're so focused on when you talk about looking after yourself, it's like, yeah, he started looking after himself. And people typically refer to he started going to the gym. Well, yeah, she looks after herself. And it's like, Oh, she has always done nicely, you know, she always has very clean clothes on. But for me, like, that's a product of the way that we've been influenced by social media and media to value somebody. And so, you know, from experience, it's like, when you
01:29:55
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tap out of that and you're no longer focused on appearance. It's like you're focused on somebody that is emotionally secure. They have confidence in themselves. They are talented so they can work with their hands. I personally find that so attractive when a man can actually build something. Don't tell me what you look like. Tell me what you can build. Can you write an attractor or something?
01:30:23
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these things are what we need to start seeing as attractive because that's what builds our own confidence as well. Like women, they focus a lot on their appearance because that's what they think men care about. But really, that's just attracting men that only care about appearance and they don't really care about who you are on the inside. And that's what breeds a long last incredible relationship filled with love. Men think that
01:30:47
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You know, are men going to marry the girl who's got blonde hair and a big bum because she works out in the gym all day? Or does he want the girl that's like listens to him and makes him feel safe and is a great cook and would be a great mother for children and is reliable and is understanding and is soft and capable and all these things. Like we need to reframe what we value in society and stop looking skin deep because that's not what we should be focusing on.
01:31:16
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If you look at tribes, you're talking about tribes, it's like, when we are literally living in tribes, do we value someone who's pretty or do we value someone that's a warrior or that is reliable? Or if I get sick because, you know, I get shot in the back, is my king not going to leave me behind because he is stoic and he has love for his tribe and he's going to bring me with him in a time of hardship. These are the things that we relied on, the things that we liked in other people and now it's just all about
01:31:45
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what they look like and that's just it's it's not it you know it's not it so so yeah i um yes very interesting times but again everything i said can be wrong so oh no i i don't think so and i mean no i i think
01:32:10
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I, someone told me to stop saying, I think recently. Um, so I'll say I feel, um, or I even know that, um, what you're saying is true. Yeah. I think we need to have more discussions like this, um, and, and, and making it aware and awareness for it, because especially the younger generation, having access to social media from such a young age, it's really shaping their way, their centralized thinking. And it's so hard to get out of that.
01:32:39
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you know, I'm 26. And I only just made it out of that. And you know, my journey started like 21 years old. But looking back at myself then and looking how I acted and the things that I did, I was like, wow, I was just this insecure, broken girl who was a product of an environment. And I was so lost, so detached from who I was. And I can see that now in so many other people. And I don't I don't judge them anymore. I feel quite sad.
01:33:06
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I'm like, come on, brother and sister. Like, come on, come over to this site. Come be with us. Cause life is just so much better over here. Um, yeah. Yeah. I find it.
01:33:19
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To be totally honest, and I'm sure a lot of people have picked up on this, you probably yourself too, but I'm scared to have these sort of conversations sometimes because like, I just don't want to be labeled as someone who's an old thinking sexist. And that's really not what I am. Like I'm, I've,
01:33:37
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Like I said, I'm a brother to four younger sisters and I want the best for all of them. Like whatever they want to do, I want them, if they want to be engineers or they want to be whatever it is, I support that. But I don't want them to have to feel as though because, you know, someone on TV said that they should do that, that they have to do it. Yeah, exactly. Or it's, it's, it's parved out for them through the traditional schooling system to
01:34:06
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create that wanton desire in their brand. So I think there's nothing wrong with women working and people can do exactly whatever they can. It's like, as long as you're happy doing it. But I think it's a bit of a scam that women spend the same amount of time at university, get all this university debt, and then they have children and then they're out of the workforce. But then also with that, people say,
01:34:35
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Oh, you know, I feel so sorry for her because she's had kids and she's got all that now. Aren't we devaluing mothership or motherhood as well when we do that? I mean, I totally understand what you're saying. I know I completely understand it, but also we completely devalue the most important job in the world, right? Exactly. And that's what men really need to understand is valuing his wife because
01:35:02
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I mean, I was listening to Joel Austin, who's a preacher. He has a church in Lakewood in America. He was talking about how women's health is a direct reflection of their husband. And so they say, like, are you telling your husband, are you creating an environment where your wife's nervous system can be regulated? Like, are you telling your woman, you know, your wife that she's beautiful? Are you, you know, making her be proud of who she is, telling her that she's doing a good job?
01:35:30
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You need to be valuing your wife because she does so much for you to serve you. But we just completely devalue that now. We just think it's not hard, just do this, just do that. And yeah, we're really devaluing that. And when a woman has your child, that is it for them. She now has that child for the rest of her life. Her biology, she will never leave that child, hopefully.
01:35:58
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rather than that can just walk away. And so honoring that, when you have sex with a woman, that should be to have a child. And if a child is a result of that, even if it's not on purpose, it's like, if you're going to be intimate with a woman, that's your responsibility, if that happens. And so you need to be choosing who you're intimate with. You need to be creating good relationships. You need to be fostering a good family unit.
01:36:27
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and having that high testosterone and having that connection within yourself, which unfortunately don't people have to nurture, provide and be like the man of the house as such and take that as an actual job. Like that's your duty is to now this woman has become vulnerable to you. She's got your child. She's relying on you to create that really nurturing safe space so that she can do her thing. You can do your thing and you keep the family unit running.
01:36:52
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which ultimately why are you doing that so that you can have really healthy, secure offspring together and your legacy lives on. Um, but I see a lot of men who don't have that view of I've got this girl pregnant or, you know, she's having my children and I should respect her and, and this and that and vice versa. And so, you know, sometimes they do break up, the girl has to do everything on their own, um, or he's, you know, cheating or whatnot. And she's still staying because she's relying on him.
01:37:20
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for an income and all these things. And so women ended up starting working in some cases. So there's a lot of factors at play. But that comes down to your relationship with God or your value set and getting very clear on that and acting in integrity, looking in the mirror and being like, I want to be this person for my family and really stepping up for that play. I don't want to sound like I'm harping on men a lot either. I grew up in a single parent household. So my mom did everything for us. So I guess I'm a bit biased.
01:37:49
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And so I did a lot of my best friends' parents. Their moms are
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01:37:54
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also single moms, so I've seen that outcome play out again and again. But also women as well, like doing the work to provide that emotional security for the family as well.
01:38:07
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Yeah, that's just. Yeah, I mean, we could go and talk about like initiation and how there's no initiation for men anymore. So men don't, I mean, we could cry about that and say how bad it is and plenty of people have done that. But I think there should be initiation for men. And I think the reason that we have
01:38:24
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a lot of those problems is because we don't have initiation. Yeah, because their dads were just drinking beer. Their highlight of their week was to go down to the pub with the boys. It wasn't, you know, go play soccer with their son or something. There's a complete breakdown in the family unit.
01:38:42
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That's it. That's all that's all in my opinion. And it's just my opinion is because, you know, men lack purpose as well. Like if that's the whole lot of your week, then you're working in a job that has no purpose. And so of course, that's going to be the whole lot of your week. And I feel like if you're if you're driven from purpose, from your purpose is providing for your family to be the best dad that you possibly can be, like what better purpose and that's so motivating in every area of your life. It doesn't matter what job you have. It doesn't matter where you live. It doesn't matter
01:39:11
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all of these things, that keeps you moving forward. I think men are told they have to have purpose in different areas. Like, you know, you need to have a really strong friend group, you need to have this, you need to have that. And while that's important, it's not the top tier of, you know, the food pyramid. It's not. Yeah, the family unit has just been taken away. And it's something that's kind of like laughed at. And it's not seen as strong or important, but like it really should be. Yeah.
01:39:40
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But there's no initiation. I mean, in Mexico, I did a firewalking ceremony. A Mexican came here and he did a traditional firewalking ceremony. And that's actually what their children do there is initiation into manhood. They actually have to walk across the fire. And it's so funny because when you do it, you have to walk very slowly. So you have to not be scared.
01:40:07
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or else you actually burn your feet because that increased pressure of running actually will give you blisters. Oh, wow. Yeah. And so it's about confidence in yourself, I think is the whole purpose and trusting the leaders that are leading you through. But even things like that is so important. I saw someone on Instagram the other day, he sent his son who was like 12 years old to go do a hike overnight. So he had to hike to the top of this mountain.
01:40:32
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um, cook his own food, start a fire, all these things, and then come. Is that Ben Greenfield? I don't know. Maybe it was. I don't, I don't know who it was. I remember laughing at it and then being like, cause they were wearing sunglasses and I was like, and then I was like, you know what Kira, like that's actually pretty good. That's a lot better than most people are doing. And I was like, that's awesome. How good would you feel? Like my brother, if he had that, that experience, he would, I know that would have just set him up for so much more success than what he has now.
01:41:01
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Um, it's just so important, like acting through leadership. So important. What's your opinion on that, I guess. Oh, yeah. I completely agree. I think that I've listened to a lot of probably books and podcasts on the topic. And I think like they probably rightly say, maybe there's, there's not a place in society anymore for
01:41:27
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Uh, you know, there, there was, um, initiation processes where they would like send men out like that for a week when they were 14 or something. And if you came back, then they would like beat you with a stick and you had to run through with, like you had to run like every man in the tribe who'd been through the initiation would like pick up a stick. And then you, you would be tasked with like getting to the end of getting through all these men while they hit you with sticks. Yeah.
01:41:53
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So, I mean, I don't, there's probably not a place for that anymore, but, um, yeah, there needs to be something hard that we should have to do to like, because it forges the feeling of.
01:42:07
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of like, you just know, like, I think a woman knows when she becomes a woman and a lot of people say, oh, you know, a woman knows when she starts menstruating. I don't know whether that's completely true. I think that that's a good foray, but I think that maybe it's when you give birth to a child that you really know. I don't know. That's, that's maybe a theory that I have because you come so close to dying. Um, I don't know. What are your thoughts on that?
01:42:36
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I'm kind of unsure of questions. Sorry. So on the topic of feminine initiation, because we were talking about masculine. Yeah. I don't know. I think the age bracket is kind of skewed now with the way that we, not baby, but the way that society set up and the timelines that we have on things with school and all these things. But for me, like I definitely knew when I had become an adult, when I moved from
01:43:06
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I mean, I still feel like a teenager every day, but I'm definitely more sovereign in thinking, and more, more stoic in myself and less connected to, you know, what everyone thinks about me and this and that, like, I'm definitely my own person. And it definitely was like a something that happened very quickly. So I definitely resonate with the fact that, you know, you just know when you go from a child into an adult or from a child or woman or whatever. But I think it's just an evolving process. And everyone has
01:43:36
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those stages of their own time. But I definitely think that children are way more capable of things than we think they are. Yeah, like my friend's sons can build a fire and cook meat and everything. He's like six and a half years old. I don't know. I don't know who else can do that. He knows how to butcher a cow. Like he probably can't do it. He could talk you through how to do it.
01:43:59
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know, even Sarah Klein's son, like he's doing incredible because he's been so nourish from a nutrient perspective and the light perspective, you know, he's doing great. So it's interesting to see the next, you know, I have some quantum kids coming through with clients that have been able to fall pregnant through getting their health right. And then seeing them
01:44:23
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You know, they're so melanated, like their children are out in the sun all the time. They have, you know, they're being breastfed as long as possible. No dummies, like all this stuff. So it would be really interesting to see their development with their seafood intake and all these things to see what type of people that breeds as opposed to us who was like on the TV, on bottles, you know, not with their mother, like all these things. So I guess then we might have some more data to be able to pull from. I see these memes on Instagram sometimes where it's like, um,
01:44:52
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You know, the crying one where it's like, you know, there's a guy crying and they're like, when you remember back to what the, like, what this was like or what it, I don't know if you know the meme that I'm talking about, but, um, it's just like videos of what it was like in the nineties. And it's like, you know, you, you're, you're outside and like, your mum just locks the door and then you pick up your bike and like,
01:45:16
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you know, going like, I don't know, like get a bike and ride it off the drain or like hit each other with sticks or like, I literally, I don't know if I should tell you a story on a podcast, but, um, cousin in the hand with an, with a nail that got like embedded in his hand and he had to, I mean, like, those are just things that kids don't do anymore. We just did dumb stuff. I remember another time we dug up,
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01:45:41
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um,
01:45:43
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People realize how stupid I am from this, but, um, there was a spare block next to my grandparents house as a kid and my cousin and I found this tree and we found all of this timber. So we're like, we'll build a bike jump out of this timber. And it was termite wood. And so the next thing we're like in the bath and grandma's on the telephone to the poison hotline. And I mean, like, that's what you did when you were like without mobile phones and stuff, right?
01:46:12
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Yeah, that was such a typical Australian upbringing. We're all the same. I remember crying one day saying, I just want some cold water to my mum because she would just like lock the doors on the weekend and clean the house. And it would be so hot, like so hot outside. And she'd say, um, there's a tap outside currently. And like, you'd have to drink hot water. Like you'd have to let it run for a little bit. So the water would be cold again. Yeah. Like you have the taste. Yeah.
01:46:40
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Yeah, it's literally just that's how it was. I remember there's a photo of my best friend Isabel, my little sister. So funny because she was like maybe four at the time because we have such an age gap. And then my brother who's a few years younger than me. And I think I'm maybe 15. My best friend's like 14. My sister's like, yeah, young. My brother's maybe like 11. And we're all standing like this. So proud in front of like this teepee that we had made.
01:47:07
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And we'd have no shoes on. Like my hair's a mess. Isabel's got dirt all over her. My sister's wearing my mom's friend's thongs. So they're like 10 stars. It's too big for them. And my brother's like so proud in like cargo shorts. And I'm like, what? 14 year old's like doing that. Like, nobody. And like those clothes have been passed out from like your older siblings or your older cousins or something. Yeah, literally, literally.
01:47:34
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But yeah, I don't know. Now they're just like professional TikTok editors. I don't even know how they do it better than me. But yeah, that stuff is so memorable. I can't, you know, I'm so thankful. Back then I hated it. I was like, mum, we're so weird compared to everyone else. I'm like, oh, praise the Lord that this was upbringing because it was just so much better than what's currently happening. Right. So, yeah, definitely the Australian upbringing was definitely quiet.
01:48:02
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You definitely had good and bad parts about it, but they're very thankful nonetheless. Yeah, I mean, I guess to bring a full circle back to, you know, maybe the more people are going to hate me using this term after this podcast, but more science. They're still listening to this podcast. Yeah, they're still listening.
01:48:27
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You know, at least we got, I mean, I played video games sometimes and probably too much sometimes, but I would say the majority of time I was out in the sun, but I mean, it's, it's, it'll be interesting to see what kids turn out with, turn out like with shit diet and shit light, you know, but when, when both are, uh, uh, not good, then yeah.
01:48:54
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Well, we're already seeing that really, I think it's called like ADHD and autism. Um, unfortunately, so yeah, I think it's a big issue and you know, I'm so thankful that I grew up. Like I think the part of the reason I'm so healthy is because, um, I grew up the way that I did, you know, um, I can't imagine, you know, when I moved to the city and I got so sick, I think that's because I had never been exposed to it before. Um, you know, Jack Cruz and stuff say that, Oh, it's because you had a high heteroplasmic rate and it's like,
01:49:23
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Actually, no, it's because I was so much more susceptible to that because like, you know, five generations were farmers and we never went into the city. So I think that's like you can actually have a sensitivity to these things when you don't have access to them, especially when your brain's developing. And I think the biggest issue is when
01:49:41
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because children's brains aren't myelinated until I think about 22 years old or something, maybe 23, I believe. So we're so much more susceptible to non-native EMFs and the way that radiation penetrates to us in a child's body, it's so much easier. And because they're cranium and things aren't properly developed. And so the impact of this and light on a growing body, you know, me and you and a lot of other children,
01:50:05
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We actually, you know, the first five, 10 years of our life, we didn't really have cell phones or wifi or anything. Um, now the children do. Um, and so I think that's going to impact children a lot more than it's going to impact adults. So that's just kind of clicked a flick the switch for me, my mind, because I've heard true say that he thinks fat is an insulator, um, and potentially acts like a Faraday cage and it's kind of just click because myelin is obviously fat, right? Um,
01:50:34
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maybe different types of fat. Um, but yeah, interesting. Yeah, exactly. Um, I just think it's less protective, right? Um, brain. And then obviously that myelin speeds up conductivity, um, in the body. So it's passing those neural impulses very quickly. So instead of having to go all the way along the hose, it can like jump from myelin or whatever's happening. And so when that breaks down, we start to see neurological problems. Um,
01:51:02
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And that's actually a big issue. A lot of children, well not a lot of children, but I know that children now are being diagnosed with conditions where they don't have myelin developing at all in their brain. And it's like, why is that happening as well? Is that genetics? Because none of our parents ever had that, so. And that's, that's where you see stuff like multiple sclerosis and that sort of thing emanate from, right? Like that's, that's having poor myelination. And misfolding of proteins and all these things, but, um,
01:51:32
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There's a really cool story and this is the final story that I'll give. But one of my friends, her brother is quite younger than her and he was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis at birth. So they were told, I know this child looks healthy to you now, but you know, this is the way he's going to develop, blah, blah, blah. This is what you can expect to happen. And they prayed over the child.
01:51:55
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he was breastfed as well. So they said, don't breastfeed him. The mum continued to breastfeed him until he was three years old and breast milk is very nutrient dense. It has a lot of healing properties, has, you know, stem cells. Um, and so that child actually made a full recovery and is fine. Um, it's perfectly fine or praises to high power. Um, but the weird thing is, is that now he's, so he's 30 now. Um, and so his son, um, was,
01:52:26
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So his wife got pregnant and his son, um, was developing perfectly fine. And so she actually got vaccinated at like 32 weeks or something like this. And then everything went downhill and they said that she got a virus. I don't know what it is, but it's affecting the fetus and the fetus is now, you know, not developing properly. It might have all these complications and he, so he actually went on to become a doctor. Um, and I think maybe orthopedics or something because he was so happy. Um,
01:52:53
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with the hospital and the way that it changed his life as a child, that he wanted to become a doctor. And so he really thanked the medical system, even though they said, your child's gonna be dead in a few years. And now they're calling his health turnaround a miracle. And who it is. So anyways, fast forward. He's a doctor. His child is now sick. Wife gives birth to baby.
01:53:18
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Um, and then they, same thing, literally a repeat, bring up on the screens. Like, this is what your child's going to have. You know, he's going to be blah, blah, blah. And so they said, yep. Yep. Okay. All right. Thank you very much for telling us and prepared themselves. And that child is now has multiple sclerosis and is nonverbal. So yeah. And so it just makes you think, it makes you think the power of words, the power of intention, um,
01:53:44
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And the way you go about, you know, adopt or diagnosing you with X, Y, Z. The statistics are really bad. Only 9% of people die, only 1% live. And what does that do to your neural circuit? And the way that
Conclusion and Health Tips
01:53:56
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that manifests in you is definitely questionable. Oh, well, just think about like what happens when you buy cigarettes with plain packaging on them. That has like a picture of someone with a tracheostomy or something like that. It's supposed to deter people from smoking. You're programming them to believe that they're going to get cancer.
01:54:15
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I mean, I still wouldn't smoke from clear packaging. But yeah, it's interesting. Bottom line is your environment is shaping your health from the way that you view the other gender to the way that your brain develops, to the way that you view the world, to the way that you connect with other people and that we really need to get our environment back to nature because or else we're going to literally walk into the next extinction event and it's not going to be nice. So I feel like that's the overarching thing for this podcast.
01:54:45
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Yeah. Um, thank you very much for your time. I mean, we've, we've probably been talking for two and a half hours. Um, and it's been really good. I kind of write down all these questions about, um, you know, quantum health. And I'm glad that the podcast went in this direction because I think we got more out of it. Well, I'm glad that you got something out of it. And yeah, maybe I'll come on again one day and we can talk about science or something. Sounds good.
01:55:15
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Where can people find you? Oh, sorry. Yeah. I always get nervous about doing a podcast like this where it's just going in a complete wrong direction. Cause I'm like, do I really want people to know my views on these things? Yeah. Me too. Me too. Um, but well, it's out there now. Um, people can find me at Curly Wellness, um, on Instagram. Don't have Tik TOK. Um, do Instagram sometimes and I have Twitter too, but people just call me names on Twitter because they think that light doesn't affect their health. So.
01:55:45
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Instagram is probably the best place to find me. Yeah. Very good. And all you have to do is start, you know, just try one thing, try seeing the sunlight, the sunshine in the morning. I think a lot of people might agree with me on this one, but like I, if I jump in a cold shower or an ice bath that, you know, try and try and not feel the circadian effects of that and tell me that there's no science behind that. I mean, it's.
01:56:15
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Try jumping in a, in an ice bath with like a red light on you. That's that'll be my next thing or just doing it outside is also good. Um, but yeah, just, just buy a pair of blood, looking glasses, no affiliate here. Um, any company will do, you know, there's definitely levels to the book and glasses game. Um, but literally anything will work at the start. Um, yeah, definitely start getting on top of your health and yeah, become the best version of you.
01:56:45
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Thank you for your time, Kara. No worries, thanks.