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Wrestlemania Preview + Nitro Crowd Fund
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It’s our Wrestlemania preview episode! I was feeling a little under the weather so the boys held it down, going match by match for this weekend’s Wrestlemania and sharing their initial thoughts on the new WCW Nitro crowd fund initiative from Mattel Creations. Plus, Listener Mail!
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00:00:00
Speaker
Welcome
Welcome and Episode Introduction
00:00:01
Speaker
to the Chick Foley Show.
00:00:24
Speaker
What is up, Foley fam? We are back with our WrestleMania preview episode. I really feel like even more years than most, it kind of just snug up on us this year, man, that freaking WrestleMania is this weekend, but it's gonna be awesome. We're gonna go match by match and give you our thoughts on the car. Before we do that, let me start by introducing the stars of the show. Sheena,
Host Introductions and Episode Preview
00:00:44
Speaker
how you doing?
00:00:52
Speaker
That's right. Sheena is not with us tonight, man. The freaking star, the star that stirs the drink, man, is gone. Feeling a little bit under the weather, so it is boys' night tonight.
00:01:09
Speaker
It's just going to be me, the big guy, Jordan and Marchismo. Marco, the MVP, great to you tonight, man. I just I feel like we need to get around of like the, you know, Tim, the tool man, Grutzman. I agree. You can just you can feel the testosterone just coming through the speakers right now. Yikes. Marco, what's going on, man? How you doing? Not that much, man. Just getting trying to get excited for the for media week. There's a lot of a lot of things happening.
00:01:39
Speaker
I'm going to give a little teaser now because I gave a teaser last week. Me and Seth have something planned for the Chick Foley Show feed. That's all I'm going to say. That's pretty much it. You hear it. Maybe next week we'll see. I'm excited about that. Yeah, something to help out with the post-Wrestlemania hangover for sure. Jordan, what's up with you, man?
00:02:04
Speaker
Not too much, just getting ready to make the trek to Tennessee. We leave tomorrow. So yeah, man, I'm just ready to go. I'm excited to talk about WrestleMania. We have some thoughts, so let's get into it.
00:02:21
Speaker
All right, I want to remind you guys to follow Sheena at Chick Foley on Instagram and follow Marco at, is it at the Chick Foley Marco? Sheena always does his part, man. I can't believe, even though I've heard this 150 times, man, it's just like on autopilot. Tell them where to find you on Twitter, Marco. It's a Chick Foley show on the Twitter machine, as Sheena would say.
00:02:42
Speaker
All right, and make sure you follow all
WrestleMania Match Breakdown Begins
00:02:44
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of our pod foundation bread and the extra cooler show coming down the aisle and of course the turnbuckle Tavern You can find all things chick Foley at www.chick Foley comm I think that's it man Like I said, we're obviously not gonna be what's new on the farm this week without that You know, she know God we're not here to run through it. You guys ready to get into this mania card? No, let's do it. Let's do it All right, so we will we'll start with night one and kind of go through that and then we'll go through the
00:03:12
Speaker
The ones that we're using the Wikipedia page is our guide right now. They have a group of matches. This is night TBD, but looking at how many have already been identified as definite for night one. Um, I think it's safe to say which ones are, uh, are going down on night two. So we'll start with Austin theory versus John Cena. It's been announced. This is going to be the show opener for night one. Uh, let's just kind of take the temperature manager and where are you at with this match? Um,
00:03:40
Speaker
I mean, I'm not a huge Austin Theory fan, so it's just, I don't know, it's just another match on the card to me. This is gonna go for a lot of matches on this card. It's just another match to me. I mean, it's gonna be good for Austin Theory. I'm assuming he beat Cena. I don't know why else Cena would come back, but yeah, I mean, it's just kind of there for me. I'm not overly excited or overly critical. It's just a match for me.
00:04:09
Speaker
I would have rather seen Austin Theory working a compelling program with somebody on the main roster right now instead of a part-timer, but it's just another notch in his belt to let you know what the company thinks of him, that they're putting him in this spot. I've told you guys before, man, I've come around big time on Austin Theory. If you would have asked me pre-summer slam, I couldn't stand him. I thought he was a huge waste of time, but since they kind of gave him that edge after he lost a briefcase, I'm all in, dude. I'm buying up all the Austin Theory stock I can buy, and I think there really is a chance he could be the next John Cena. How about you, Marco?
00:04:39
Speaker
Yeah, it was a theory. I was always, you know, kind of, you know, kayfabe on board just for the show, but definitely, you know, he's definitely proven. We always talked about this that whole, you know, we thought he was buried and all this stuff after the, you know, money in the bank mess up that they had, you know, and obviously Vince McMahon not backing him on TV, but probably, you know, in the background.
00:05:05
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, I'm kind of excited for this match. I really wish Cena was around for this week, at least, maybe via satellite something. But after that roasting, I don't think there was much left to be said from Cena on this side. But I kind of equate theory to more Randy Orton type than John Cena. I know everyone kind of compares him to
00:05:30
Speaker
John Cena for some reason, but I always thought he was kind of like a mix of both John Cena and Randy Orton. I would like to see definitely them two go at it at some point, but face Randy Orton against the heel theory. I think that's really where he's going to shine, I think the most, but I'm looking forward to this match.
00:05:49
Speaker
Yeah, me too. I'm assuming John Cena's music is going to be the first thing we hear once they get through with the intro and all the pomp and circumstance that goes with WrestleMania. Jordan, what kind of reception you think he's getting, man? Is it going to be just cheers and appreciation or are we going to get the standard serenade with John Cena sucks? I think he gets cheered. It'll probably be 50-50 because the Smarks have to hate him, but I mean, getting to see Cena wrestle again is a good thing. It's not a bad thing.
00:06:19
Speaker
I think it'll be a split reception, but I don't think we're gonna get the traditional Cena sucks or anything like that Just cuz it's been so long since he's wrestled. So You guys think there's any chance. This is the last time we see Cena. No You think he's definitely coming back for another match after this one? I highly doubt Austin theories his last match I know he loves him, but I just I don't see this being his last match I would love to see Cena and Orton Go out at maybe either 40 or 41 and those two both go out at that match
00:06:49
Speaker
All right, let's go together. Yeah, I feel you for sure. I vote. Dude, I've always, you know, I don't know exactly how you can do the logistics without it just being so like ham fisted and obvious what they're trying to do. But I've always had a dream match of somehow they're both 16 time champions and the title is vacated. And it's those two going at it to, you know, crown who's going to break Rick Flair's record. I feel like that could be a WrestleMania main event, even as old as they both are now. And have Rick Flair be the guest referee.
00:07:18
Speaker
I don't think you want Flair's guest referee, because you know that old coot will just be fucking hamming it up and try to make it all by himself. But I think it would be classy as fuck if it's like a ladder match and Ric Flair comes down and is the one that hooks the belt up to the fucking hoist or whatever as it goes up, man. Or it can be the
Seth Rollins vs. Logan Paul Discussion
00:07:36
Speaker
guest timekeeper or something.
00:07:39
Speaker
guest ring announcer oh there we go now we're talking yeah and maybe he could be the guest flight attendant on the private jet there all right oh boy all right little helicopter action we gotta take advantage of sheena not being here that's that's true
00:07:57
Speaker
Alright match number two another part-timer Seth Rollins going up against Logan Paul. We know Logan has been on social media advertising that his contract with WWE is up after WrestleMania Marco you calling work or shoot on this being Logan Paul's last match WrestleMania all right in WWE Well, they did I'm trying to remember if he did sign like a multi-year deal
00:08:20
Speaker
But that's what was announced at the time when he signed he's been chirping this week saying that uh, No, I wrestle manious his last commitment. Yeah, so I don't know maybe uh, maybe things changed Uh since since I think when did he sign that when vince is in power? Or maybe not maybe they're like, oh, yeah, you're contracting on void now you can do whatever you want but
00:08:40
Speaker
I don't think it was still around. Yeah, I don't think it's his last match. I think he'll I maybe maybe contract maybe for this year I don't think you'll see him again for the rest of the year, but I think he'll be back again just in time I think he's gonna be backlash, you know, it's backlash is going down in Puerto Rico. That's kind of his stomping ground That's where his home base is out of Puerto Rico. So I feel like you got to have him there even if it's a surprise appearance he did have beef with bad buddy having his brother cuz remember that whole like
00:09:06
Speaker
The taxes and all that stuff over there and there's a property tax be like real-life beef so much yeah, buddy, you know a lot of To get into the geopolitical side of things a little bit, you know, Puerto Rico has become because of some of the tax breaks You can get for moving there. It's kind of been a popular place over the last five or six years for rich folks to move It's almost kind of like the Hawaii of the Atlantic Ocean. Yeah, you still get all the benefits of living in America and being an American citizen but there's some really cool tax breaks come with it and a lot of the
00:09:35
Speaker
Native Puerto Ricans are not fans of this because when the hurricanes have come through, all the rich folks have just hauled ass. They haven't stuck around and helped out with the rebuild, given any cash or any resources to it. I doubt WWE starts touching on all those issues because that's a little bit more deep and nuanced than they typically go with their storytelling. But yeah, there is some beef there. That could be fun seeing Bad Bunny and a tag team partner, this local partner, a tag team partner at Backlash.
00:10:04
Speaker
Jordan, I know you have got some thoughts on this. So what I want you to do right now, man, this is the one time on the show, I'm going to give you the green light to be as negative as you want to be the full Anakin Skywalker. Let that hate flow through your veins, empower you and give me your thoughts on Seth freaking Rollins after having one of the best years of his career being stuck in a WrestleMania match against Logan Paul.
00:10:28
Speaker
Dude, I fucking hate this for Seth Rollins. Honestly, I just, I think this is, I like Logan Paul just fine, but dude, you cannot convince me that this is a meaningful match because it's not like, dude, he's wrestling someone who's wrestled in what three matches on the grandest stage of them all. Rollins just had one of the greatest years of his life. The crowd is completely behind him.
00:10:53
Speaker
and he's wrestling Logan Paul. There's just no effort into this at all. It's going to be a great match. I'm not saying it's not going to be a good match. It is. But dude, looking at this in kayfabe, what does Logan Paul have to offer against Seth Rollins, seriously? I'm supposed to believe this is going to be some technical classic match and it's just going to win me over. It's going to be fun, but this is not going to win me over. This is fucking awful that Rollins is wrestling in this match.
00:11:23
Speaker
I think you nailed it as a shoot. It's a good spot to be in because obviously whoever's working with Logan Paul that somebody the company is really wanting to have some steam behind and it's probably the second most high profile match on the card outside of Cody and Roman but in kayfabe Yeah, like it's it's just
00:11:40
Speaker
it's a downgrade from where Seth was I mean just think dude just a few years ago Seth was in the mix you know he was the number one babyface on the roster you know you universal champion main event and all across the world and now he's fighting you know celebrity one-off matches at mania so you guys know I don't think anybody on the show loves Seth Rollins more than me I'm a little bit bummed to see where he's at in kayfabe but
Part-Timers Impact on WrestleMania
00:12:00
Speaker
I'm hoping that, you know, they toss some Logan Paul because they know it's going to be a banger and just a high profile spot to launch off of to have a, a balanced back year in, uh, in 2023 in kayfabe anyways, cause dude's taken some high profile losses over the last couple of years, man. He's kind of bulletproof that he'd never really lose too much steam, but
00:12:17
Speaker
you know he got beat by Cody three straight times once with Cody with a freaking you know what's Cody say like half his body hanging on yeah we're gonna have to discuss this too the the first four matches we're going to discuss all have part-timers in them not a fan yeah i was gonna bring that up you know
00:12:35
Speaker
If you thought the, uh, if you got the part-timer era of WrestleMania was going away with Triple H in charge, like, no, it's actually seems like it's a little bit stronger, man. It's just that WrestleMania, you know, you got to know a lot of these matches, they aren't for us, man. They are for the hardcore fans. This is, this is just all about the spectacle and for, you know, bringing in those folks that WrestleMania is the one show a year that they watch.
00:12:58
Speaker
It kind of is what it is, man. To me, SummerSlam, that's always my favorite show. I feel like SummerSlam is like the WrestleMania for the Smarks. Yeah, I think so. I also think this year in particular, since it's in Hollywood, that's why you see a lot of part-timers and a lot of
00:13:14
Speaker
a lot more spectacle than normal. Mainly because of that, it's Los Angeles. It's at SoFi Stadium, one of the most state-of-the-art stadiums out there right now. There's probably going to be tons of people in attendance, tons of celebrities, bigwigs, and all that stuff. So they kind of got to pull out all the stops. And I think next year, you won't see that. I don't think you'll see as many part-timers, if any. Brock's gone. Goldberg's gone.
00:13:42
Speaker
Next year it'll be snowing in Philadelphia on WrestleMania Sunday. Next year in Philly, man, ECW, we gotta bring out all the ECW originals, dude. You're gonna have Sandman coming back. Probably. We need to have like an ECW Battle Royale or something. I don't mind that. Yeah, like an extreme battle royale and get all the extreme guys out there. Yeah, that'd be pretty cool. Yeah, too many of them left, man. You dig up Sandman, freaking Dustoff, Sabu, freaking maybe Raven. Yeah. Yeah, it'd be fun though. If he's not
Six-Woman Tag Match Critique
00:14:08
Speaker
signed to impact sale.
00:14:10
Speaker
Yeah, Impact ain't gonna block him from going. If WWE asked him to go to WrestleMania, they ain't gonna block him from going. The good thing is kind of looking at how they got the card blocked out on the way, you know, we're assuming this Wikipedia lineup is right, you know, it's obvious they could change this the day of on Saturday. It looks like we're gonna kind of get most of our, like, popcorn, like, just for fun matches out of the way on Saturday, and maybe Sunday is gonna be where we really get down to business, so.
00:14:36
Speaker
Let's get to our next one, man. Becky, Trish, and Lita against damage control. I'm sure it'll be fine. It'll be fun seeing Trish back out there, but I really have zero interest one way or another, dude. This is probably my go refill the cooler match if I'm being honest. Dude, I'm the biggest Trish drives fan on this show, and this is fucking disgusting that they're doing this. The fact that Bailey and Becky Lynch are strapped to this,
00:15:06
Speaker
I would, dude, why not just do a Bailey and Becky Lynch singles match? I don't need this at all. Like there's, I get why they're doing it again. Bringing Trish and Lita back is going to draw people in. I just don't get the point of this though. I think it's stupid, but whatever.
00:15:22
Speaker
Mean dude, they're here the tag team champs also do that like this damage control things played out this has been going on since SummerSlam this feud with Becky like I like them as a faction but Start feeding with somebody else besides Becky and Bianca like why not? How cool would this be if you had that meaningless? Tag team showcase match on night one and the winners fight Becky and Lita on night two like BAM like I'm in for that, you know, I Mean that would at least give you something to look forward to for the women's tag titles because
00:15:52
Speaker
Becky and Lita being the champions is nothing I'm looking forward to, if I'm being honest. Lita has not looked good the last couple times she's wrestled. I mean, I get it. Dude, I hold my breath every time she goes for that moonsault. Dude, I get it. It's like she's old, so I'm not expecting her to be in her 20s. But I don't know, man. There's just time and place for this. And I'm sorry, dude. Running this at WrestleMania with
00:16:14
Speaker
Bailey Dakota Kai and EO Sky and Becky Lynch. I just, I think that's an extreme downgrade for those four girls. I know they're going to be excited, but I mean, dude, Trish is still, like I said, so my favorite. I love her, but she ain't been relevant in the wrestling ring in 15 years, like 10, 15 years. Like I just don't get it.
00:16:37
Speaker
When was SummerSlam 2019 against Charlotte? Was that the last time we saw her? Yep. That was the last time she wrestled. It's been almost four years since last time she wrestled. Marco, you're good in that match though. Yeah, she did look good. That was a fun match, dude. Marco, you're generally the most positive out of us, man. Is there a silver lining why we should be excited on this match, dude? I'm not asking you to sell. If the answer is no, it's no.
00:16:59
Speaker
What do you think? I was excited for it until Becky Lynch on Raw pretty much echoed what you both just said. Damage Control has been doing nothing. Even when they had the titles, they weren't really doing anything. Becky Lynch called them out on it. You had these two girls. They were both champions.
00:17:22
Speaker
Both great wrestlers in NXT, now they're just like not doing nothing, the lackeys type of thing. So it's kind of like buried up there. And like I said, I was kind of excited. I called this on the raw down, like way before this match even happened. I was like, it's going to be a six-woman tag. I was like, they're not going to go, you know, like Jordan said, like Becky versus Bayley or anything like that. Or I thought it was going to originally be like a tag title match, like a rematch.
00:17:51
Speaker
That would even be, I mean, I'd be more enticed to that, you know, and have maybe Trish Stratus and Bayley on the outside, you know, as the managers and do it that way, have the focus on the women's tag team titles, but they didn't even go that route. So yeah. I know you already said it, but
00:18:09
Speaker
This started eight fucking months ago to the day a few started eight months ago How long ago summer slam seems? That was exactly eight months ago this week Dude, this this didn't need four months let alone eight months. Like I just I don't understand what they're doing here It's I don't know man. Like I said, this is extreme disservice to Becky and Bailey, I think but Whatever. I mean at least they're on the card, I guess
00:18:37
Speaker
At least they're on the card, I guess. That's going to be the caption for this week's show. Well, seriously, what else can you say about it? I mean, those two girls... No, you're right. I'm right there with you, dude. No, I'm right there with you, man. This match is like... That's two of the four horsewomen,
Brock Lesnar vs. Omos Predictions
00:18:49
Speaker
and they're wrestling in a six-woman tag match.
00:18:53
Speaker
Yeah, I feel like this is like a raw main event. Honestly, man, it's like this should be like a really, really hyped up raw main event to me. Feels like I'm pretty sure. Whatever. All right, let's go to this next one, man. Where my Homo sapiens at? Freaking Brock Lesnar going against Omos, dude.
00:19:09
Speaker
I'll start off man. Cuz I think I got if I don't know if this is a hot take is at least a warm take I think almost wins this match man, and we've heard all the rumors that this is gonna be Brock's last show for a while I'm sure it's gonna be some fuck fuck stuff with MVP. You got Bobby Lashley, Florida There was nothing to do. Maybe we get her a reform hurt business if they come out and help them But I think Brock is looking up at the lights at the end of this match I Don't think it's a hot take
00:19:40
Speaker
If this is if this really ends up being Brock Lesnar's last WrestleMania match though Dude, I just don't I don't understand it man and maybe this is Lesnar's phase where he's just gonna put people over and stuff but
00:19:54
Speaker
I don't know. I just, I feel like this is just a huge dessert. Again, we're going to talk about the service is a huge disservice to him. Like, does anybody really think Omos is going anywhere? Like, I mean, are those people out there? Like Brock has won one match in the last year. He beat Bobby Lashley at crown jewel. That's the only match he's won in a year.
00:20:20
Speaker
And that was like on a fluke, man, where he did like the, you know, Bobby Lashley still having the heart lock, but he ended up getting the pin. Yeah. So he lost at WrestleMania 38 and then lost at SummerSlam, won at Crown Jewel, lost the Royal Rumble and lost the elimination chamber. Man.
00:20:37
Speaker
So what are you thinking? Are you saying you're almost sapien for this match? No, I'm not. Even if he is going to win, I'm still going for Brock in this match just because I cannot picture like, especially knowing never to be, they'll probably do it with a boot to the chest if Omos wins and I'll just be disgusted by that. So I don't know, man. I think the effect that Omos got the upper hand three weeks in a row on rock is telling that Brock is going to win.
00:21:00
Speaker
Stand tall on Monday take the fall on Sunday. I don't know man I just I feel like it's gonna be like the best of both worlds I feel like Brock's gonna hit the F5 on Omos so we still get that clip that'll be used in highlight reels for years But some fuck fuck shit happens afterwards and and Omos still gets the win Where you at on this one Marco you picking you picking Omos the the big giant or or Brock to get the dub?
00:21:22
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, I'm with Jordan on the telltale, you know, Omos get the upper hand over Brock the past few weeks, and I think Brock's gonna win. It's definitely gonna be a spectacle.
00:21:36
Speaker
I mean, if he does lose, you're going to get the F5, you're going to get the suplexity, you're going to get those moments. You have to bring up moments because Sheena isn't here. She loves moments, but you're going to get those awesome moments of him giving Omos a suplexity, the F5, and probably picking up the win. I'm going to go with the win, but worse things have happened.
00:22:02
Speaker
I hate that this is like the the most fun Brock Lesnar has ever been and he's wrestling almost like he's go ahead and scrap the Logan Paul and Rollins match and just give us Rollins and Lesnar like I'd that would be a 15 minute banger and I'm all here for that like I just
00:22:19
Speaker
Yeah, that'd be awesome. It just seems like they could have just moved pieces around on this card and the card would have been so much better. I mean, I think this match will be fine. It's not going to be long, but it'll be fine. So she said that is I wish I wish whatever happened with the brace stuff. I wish they could have worked it out. I would have loved to see brain rock because, you know, we got that teased before WrestleMania 32 and it kind of petered out and they ended up doing
00:22:44
Speaker
Brock paired off with Dean Ambrose, and Bray just had the segment with the Rock, man. I would have liked to see that happen. Where are you at with Bray right now, Jordan? Do you think he is legit hurt, or do you think it was the rumors of creative differences, and that's why he's gone by the wayside?
00:23:00
Speaker
The dude had arguably the biggest pop of 2022. And then we did nothing with him for five months. And then he has a Mountain Dew match that I still am horrified by. I don't know, dude. I think it could be a little bit of both. Maybe he is a little banged up, but banged up from what?
00:23:21
Speaker
That's what I'm saying. That's why I think it was creative differences. Yeah. How did you get hurt? He should have been the fresh as a fucking daisy, dude. What did he get hurt? What did he slip on a fucking croissant and fucking catering? And we've heard zero details of what it is. You know what I mean? You know, like a PCL sprain, fucking tendonitis, like nothing. That's what I think the injuries just a cover story. What do you think, Marco? Well, the funny thing is, like the whole time he when he returned,
00:23:46
Speaker
They there was talks of him being injured even when he did return and he wasn't fully. That's why he never really wrestled. Yeah, you're right. They never like really, you know, obviously they didn't because it's, you know, it was a real injury. So they really talk about it on, you know, on television.
00:24:04
Speaker
But, uh, that's why he didn't see him. And then he started doing a couple of like the house shows and stuff like that. But when I mean, we're in attendance, so we didn't see like the physicality of them and just judging from that Mountain Dew match. I wasn't really, it was like a gimmick match. So he didn't really have to do much, which kind of protected. Yeah. Which he like, you know, he was kind of protected in that sense because he didn't really have to do any, anything really super physical. Um, so I think he, I mean, I think he's still injured, dude. I think he still has some type of injury or some,
00:24:33
Speaker
something weird going on with them. They try to put it off as much as they could. They were just like, you know what? Just take the time you need or whatever. I don't
Women's Championship Matches Debate
00:24:43
Speaker
think it was creative differences. I don't think it's any of that stuff that Reddit rumors. Earl3679 made up some rumor about him getting creative differences about- 095. People ran with it like crazy. Everyone came out and said, no, that wasn't the issue.
00:25:00
Speaker
Um, and you know, he's had some like, um, mental health stuff too happening. So it could be that as well. I mean, there's a lot of, I mean, it's a lot of factors. I don't, I honestly don't think it was creative stuff, um, at all. I don't know. Or it could have been PTSD with Vince McMahon walking through the doors. He just ran away. He's like, oh no. And he just took off.
00:25:23
Speaker
But yeah, I don't know. I hope maybe it was just a minor injury situation to where he wasn't going to be able to have the match with Bobby Lashley that he wanted to. I love Bray, man. I've actually grown to appreciate Bray a lot more as the years have gone by. I actually think my Bray fanhood is starting to approach Jordans a little bit. So I would love nothing more than to see him and Uncle Howdy and whoever else they add to the mix come out in a surprise moment at Manny and just obliterate somebody to kick off a new storyline.
00:25:51
Speaker
It ain't looking good for the home team. No All right, we'll talk about these next two matches together because I think they are kind of two sides of the same coin both women's championship matches are slated for night one Which one are you more pumped for Marco Bianca and Oscar or Charlotte and Rio? They're not they're not they're not separate nights. Oh
00:26:17
Speaker
So supposedly that they're the I mean, I'm not sure if this is true But supposedly Charlotte and Ria's made a venting night one. That's the rumor. Yeah. Yeah That looks to be where they're heading, especially since Sammy the Usos hasn't even been announced what dates on yet I think that's I think it's between you know, the tag team championship match and Charlotte Maria for sure is the main event and
00:26:38
Speaker
I mean if they are both I mean I mean the one I'm more excited for if I have to go with one of the what is Charlotte and Rio the build for I'll skin Bianca hasn't been the bit the best build at all But you can pretty much tell who's gonna win that match Just by that so well, who do you think it's gonna win cuz I don't think it's so clear man Who do you think is obviously it's gonna win out of those two?
00:27:05
Speaker
Think be I think the other guys retaining See I think Oscar could win it man. I don't think they've done enough to build it up I think I haven't loved the bill for either one of these matches I think the build for Charlotte and reasmine a little bit better just kind of high it up as a
00:27:20
Speaker
a big showdown, but I'm thinking what's the bell rings, dude. I think Oscar and Bianca is going to slap man. Like we all, we all know what Oscar can do in the ring and Bianca, it's hard to say she's underrated, but I feel like she really hasn't gotten the credit she deserves for the banger. She has been put on the last year, like in ring, like it's been a handful of times where I've been like Luke warm on a match heading in.
00:27:43
Speaker
I'm, you know, hook line and sinker, like just going crazy watching Bianca and they're doing her thing, man. So I think that's going to, I think that's going to end up being the better of the two matches. And I wouldn't be surprised to see Oscar take it, man. Like I don't think she beats you clean, but I could see Oscar cheating to, uh, in the year long reign of Bianca. Uh, where are you at with these two matches, Jordan?
00:28:03
Speaker
Um, I wish I could flip the two matches. I wish it was Ria and Bianca and Charlotte and Oscar. I just think that would be way better. Charlotte and Ria have proven their chemistry in the ring is not right. Like, I mean, we saw this how many times two years ago, like 18 weeks in a row on raw or whatever. I just, I don't know. At first I was more on the Oscar was winning and Ria was losing, but the more I think about it, the more I think Ria is winning.
00:28:32
Speaker
Which I don't know what that's gonna do for Judgment Day because if she's gonna be on Smackdown at that point I think that's just gonna destroy Judgment Day if she's not in their corner every week on Raw Yeah, that's I mean that pretty much just takes a shit on Judgment Day at that point for me like if she's not out there I think Judgment Day is 90% less interesting. Yeah, I think I think I always do the Swapski. We've seen that before and
00:28:56
Speaker
Well, I think both I think both matches both champions retained And then we get Rhea what she should have who she should have picked which is Bianca because she stays on raw Bianca still on raw obviously and they can go into that feud maybe I think I think that was a booking I mean, I'm definitely a booking decision and a booking error and
00:29:19
Speaker
They just wanted Rhea to make it look like Charlotte is the way bigger champion, which I mean, historically, Charlotte is the best woman ever to lay some pair of boots in WWE history. Probably the wrestling history. So I think that's why they made that decision. And I think that's why they're going to main event is just because they've presented Charlotte is such a big deal and they wanted Rhea because Rhea was absolutely on fire when she won the Royal Rumble. So
00:29:47
Speaker
I mean, I get why they did it. I just, I don't agree with it. I think Bianca
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00:29:50
Speaker
and Rio would have been incredible. So Marco's picking champs to retain. I'm actually picking two new champs. How about you, Jordan? What's your prediction on these two? I'm going to go Bianca retains Rio wins. Okay. All right. You guys want to do a beverage break before we get into night two? Sure. Let's do it.
00:30:19
Speaker
Alright, it's time for the weekly beverage break where we tell you guys what we're sipping on as we pod. I'll go first, man. I am drinky. This is by Against the Grain. They are a brewery out of Louisville, Kentucky, my home state. It's a fresh cut mango. It's the name of the beer. It's a mango tart ale. So delicious, bright, and so fresh. You believe we climbed a mango tree for your majesty.
00:30:40
Speaker
You guys know I love the sour ales dude and like the sour IPAs and stuff been drinking them a lot over the last couple years So I feel like my palate is pretty attuned to him I don't know if it was just because I was parched before we started podcasting but dude this thing is like Fucking mouth puckeringly sour like I felt like I'm biting into a warhead every time I take a drink of it So I definitely need to hit another one at a different time of day or something But I love a sour beer. This one's almost too sour though It's been actually kind of like taking my breath a little away a little bit as I as we're going through the pod man Jordan, what are you drinking?
00:31:09
Speaker
I'm just going with the standard Bush light tonight. Um, trying to take it easy before taking it easy. So I can't wake up tomorrow with the hangover. Famous last words, dude. I feel like talking about a hangover is like the boogeyman dude. I feel like if I don't acknowledge it, it never happens. But when I start like stressed about having a hangover, it seems like I always wake up with fucking monkey playing the bass drum inside my fucking brain or something, you know?
00:31:40
Speaker
Do you get any special hangover here, Jordan? You got any hangover prevention techniques you use? Yeah, I just start drinking again.
00:31:48
Speaker
Nice, the hair of the dog technique. I usually do, I'm usually pretty good if I, the night before I will, I'll pop like a couple of Tylenol, dude, and then just chug like a pint of water right before I go to sleep, man. And that usually helps out pretty good. But sometimes it's hard to remember to do that if you get to the point where you, where you're in hangover mode, you know? Yep. Marco, what are you drinking?
00:32:16
Speaker
I am actually, I'm doing, I'm playing the Sheena rule. I'm actually being a sober Sam tonight. I'm trying to gear up for the Famania weekend. I get a, one of my buddies, his birthday's on April 5th, but he usually does, you know, some stuff during the weekend. So I'm trying to save up my, my drinking powers for,
00:32:36
Speaker
for Friday, Saturday and Sunday this weekend. So yeah, but I did. I didn't actually find actually ordered and I found one in store broken skull double IPA. Last one at at at Wine Spirits. I was able to pick one up, so but I ended up ordering from El Segundo directly. So yeah, I'll be I'll be pounding some double IPAs this weekend.
00:33:07
Speaker
Yeah, I got six of them that we're saving, so it'll be fun to see if it actually lives up to the hype. Let's hear from the two bad chads at Turmbuckle Tavern, and then we'll get into night two of Mania.
00:33:23
Speaker
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00:33:55
Speaker
All right, we had a little technical difficulties there during the beverage break. I think we got it mostly ironed out. You guys know I'm way out here in the sticks. So we got the Hollernet X up from time to time, but you know, it's guys night. So we're going to power through and get through the rest of this rest of waiting for the review plus some other stuff we want to discuss with you guys. So let's get into night two. So again, aside from Roman and Cody, the rest of these matches are
00:34:18
Speaker
Listed as TBD on Wikipedia, but we're gonna kind of hit the I believe button that they're happening on night two Which because I can't see a whole lot more maybe one of these matches ends up going on night one But I think the most least mostly is pregnant be night two. Maybe one of these tag team showcase matches We'll get into them real quick. Does anybody have any Feelings they want to express about either one of these tag team showcase matches No, I think it's a waste of time, but that's about the extent of it. I
00:34:44
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, I'm glad, you know, there are, you know, all the, cause we kind of talked to us on the rod down how, you know, is, is a WrestleMania spot earned or is it, is it a part of, should you be part of a storyline to be on media, that type of thing. But, um, I think these, I think everyone that's, you know, a part of these matches are definitely deserving of being on the media card and some
00:35:06
Speaker
shape or form. I definitely like the street profits. They definitely should have been somewhere on the WrestleMania card. Liv definitely is one of those people that needs to be on the media card. Like I said, it's a showcase. It's just good to have these people on the card in some way, shape or form for me anyway. Why can we not just do the Battle Royale instead of these?
00:35:32
Speaker
They're doing the Battle Royal on Friday night. You gotta have a great SmackDown first. What if it happened to the dudes, man? Why not do the Andre on one night and the Mei Young on the next, man? Well, they can't use that trophy anymore because they have to redesign it because remember it kind of looked like some lady parts. If you remember. The Fallopian 2 Battle Royal. Yeah.
00:36:02
Speaker
You got to go over the top of the tubes, not through them. All right. Let's get into the rest of the meat of night two. Speaking of meat, a bunch of man meat going down in this one, man. Triple threat match, Gunther versus Drew McIntyre and Seamus. This could end up being the best match of the two nights of WrestleMania, I think.
00:36:23
Speaker
Yeah, these three are gonna throw it down. There's no way that this is anything but a Haas fight. They're gonna beat the shit out of each other for whatever time they get. And I agree, dude. These are three guys that can put it down in any match. So I can only imagine the magic they're gonna make together. So I'm really excited for this one.
00:36:44
Speaker
All three work in the European strong style. There's definitely going to be some fillings loose and some teeth after this one. Marco, who do you see taking the strap after this? Man, Gunther's in the middle of a really historic run with the Intercontinental Championship. Do you think it continues or does he drop it in this triple threat? Oh, man, I think...
00:37:03
Speaker
I think he drops it. I think Seamus wins. I think Seamus finally gets that prestigious Grand Slam title that he's been looking for. That's the only title he hasn't won, is the Intercontinental title. So I think you want to maybe a moment, that's it right there.
00:37:23
Speaker
the culmination of all that hard work. We always talk about he's that consistent worker there every week in a match and in some type of fight. So he's definitely deserving of it. And I think you want a WrestleMania moment, I think that's the best way to go about it is just to have him win it and go with it and move on to the bigger main event scene.
00:37:51
Speaker
Yeah, I couldn't have said it better myself. Seamus has had a really, really awesome year, taking the Brawling Brutes gimmick, which could have been just garbage, and he's really made it work, and he's upped his gaming ring. He's almost having a scene of late-career resurgence as far as respect from the Smarks go, because I feel like a couple years ago, people would have grown anytime Seamus's music hits, but now he said it when he went on Cory Gray's podcast. He's just putting on Banger.
00:38:16
Speaker
after banger after banger and it would be a cool moment to see him finally become the grand slam champion. Like you said, just get in the WrestleMania moment. I see him getting a standing ovation from the crowd because he's got a lot more in his rear view than he does in his windshield at this point. So we don't know how many more big opportunities he's going to get for
00:38:32
Speaker
to do something significant on the WrestleMania stage. Jordan, what do you think, man? Are you team team Seamus on this one? Or do you think Gunther keeps the train rolling? Hey, man, I got a fully picks league doing. I'm not giving you all my picks here. I got money to win. There's money on the line here. Don't be trying to pry my answers out of me.
00:38:52
Speaker
Well, we know it's been established. These picks are all kayfabe, man. We can always, you know, for the Foley picks leagues, guys out there listening, trying to get, you know, some little kernels of a strategy and stuff. Anything we say on here does not necessarily translate to predictions for, uh, for FPL. And yeah, it's going to be a big shootout this weekend for WrestleMania of anybody's game. Uh, but yeah, you agree that this got potential to be the match of the week for WWE. Oh yeah. I think this match is just going to kill like,
00:39:18
Speaker
It doesn't matter when this match goes on. They're going to try to steal the show for the entire weekend. All right. Another big one that should be just a straight up WrestleMania spectacle. Hell in a Cell, Edge versus the Demon. The first time we're ever going to see the Demon as a heel coming back. Finn Balor and Edge inside the Cell. Where are we at with this one, fellas?
00:39:42
Speaker
I think this feud has gone on way too damn long. It's fitting that it ends in a hell in a cell because watching this feud has been like being in a personal hell in a cell. I just don't. Dude, I like both of these guys a lot, but for whatever reason, this feud just has not worked at all. I just, I don't know, man. I'm just so tired of Edge versus the Judgment Day. It's been going on over a year.
00:40:09
Speaker
Let's just, I hope this is the end of it. I think this is going to be cool. I mean, it's a hell on a cell match. So, you know, they're going to put it down, getting to see the demon inside the cell. And we get rumors that the brood might reunite. Yeah. Yeah. We know gang girls in town. It's been rumors that Christian is going to be allowed to go on a little, a little rum spring from AEW for this one show. Yeah. What do you think Marco? Are we going to see the brood at WrestleMania?
00:40:39
Speaker
I think so. I think that's going to be a part of the entrance. I think we're going to get the old theme music back together, the red stage, the cups of blood, all that stuff. It's going to be as spectacle as they like to say. Yeah, I think it's going to be pretty cool.
00:40:55
Speaker
See, you're thinking entrance. I'm thinking they may get involved in the match too. Like I'm thinking, imagine the pop if, you know, they hold off on doing the brood entrance and judgment day, you know, hell in the cell. Obviously the gimmick is that, you know, one-on-one, nobody can interfere, but people always fucking interfere. The first ever match had somebody breaking the freaking door off the hinges. I see judgment day coming in to give both in the assist and then the brood music hits and freaking gangrel and Christian come out to challenge him. Like,
00:41:21
Speaker
To me, that's like that books itself, you know, I could see that. I can't imagine a W is going to let Christian do very much, though, besides pull somebody outside the ring and like throw them into the cell. I can't imagine he's going to take a bump in WWE while he's under contract for a W. Yeah.
00:41:39
Speaker
It's AEW. You don't think Triple H is going to tell him, bro, do what the fuck you want. We'll help you do the damage control if something comes up. I totally see AEW saying that, but when he gets in the building, and no offense, Christian's doing some cool stuff in AEW, but nothing he's doing in AEW is going to be anything comparable to having this moment, assuming they do get involved and it's not just for the entrance.
00:42:03
Speaker
I don't know. I'm, I'm very intrigued by this just cause I think this could be our, not that it's nearly as big a deal, but I think this could be like a sting versus Triple H type match at this mania, you know, ton of run-ins, ton of just Gaga and just ends up being a match that, that we look back on fondly.
00:42:20
Speaker
I don't look back on Triple H and Sting firmly. I don't know what you're talking about. I mean, dude, the ending of it sucked, right? It definitely sucked seeing Sting take the L and then shaking hands with a guy who hit him in the head with a fucking sledgehammer like five minutes ago. But you can't say, dude, we were there, bro. I was like two feet away from what was happening. You were marking the fuck out when DX and the NWO came out.
00:42:46
Speaker
Well, yeah, that part was awesome. The ending kind of ruined the whole thing for me, though. Like, yeah, in the moment, it was absolutely awesome. But looking back on it, not as much. Yeah, I don't I still don't understand how you don't just send everybody home happy and let Sting get the win.
00:43:04
Speaker
Because it would not have damaged Triple H one bit to lose this thing, especially after how that match went. By the time with all those run-ins and all the foreign objects and stuff, whoever won that match, it wasn't a clean victory. Yeah. I mean, that just completely killed Sting at that point. Where was it going to go for him from there in WWE? And obviously, we know how it ended.
00:43:28
Speaker
Yeah, it sucks. Well, I think that put him on the, that put him on life support. And I think for the fucking three buckle bombs from Seth Rollins ended up killing him. Yeah, I just, I wish that they would have had sting over. And even if that would have been his only match and he, he went over it, I would have been fine with that.
00:43:48
Speaker
Yeah, it would have been cool. All right, probably the second hottest feud we got at this point outside of the bloodline versus Cody, KO and Sammy, Ray versus Dom. This is a story that again, it's been about seven, eight months in the making at this point. I think Ray goes over, I think they send the fans home happy. I don't think this is like a passing of the torch moment. What are you guys seeing in this one?
00:44:13
Speaker
That, this one's hard to, this, I think this one's kind of hard to predict. Um, cause you, you know, hall of fame.
00:44:21
Speaker
All that stuff, you know, if he's going to have a Hall of Fame weekend, not a passing of the torch, but, you know, if it's going to be kind of like your last match, why not it be at WrestleMania against your son, essentially. I mean, that's not a bad way to go out. I know we were looking at it as, oh, he's going to lose the Dominic, but it's a little bit, to me, it's a little bit more than that. It's, it's a, I mean, first time that I could think of a father and son besides obviously Vince McMahon and Shane McMahon.
00:44:50
Speaker
But that's what I mean. Just the storyline, not even that, just the story in general. The whole thing with Eddie and that stuff. He's been involved with Ray so long. I don't think him losing to Dominic is a bad thing. I think it helps Dominic even more if that's the case.
00:45:11
Speaker
There hasn't been a whole lot of touching father-son moments in WWE history. The first one that comes to mind is when boss man is dragging around big shows, daddy. I think this is really cool that they're doing this though. I mean, I'm not, I'm obviously not the biggest Dom fan, but he has kind of won me over a little bit here in the last couple of months. I mean, still not great in the ring, but
00:45:40
Speaker
I mean, dude, if this is truly Ray's last WrestleMania match, which all signs are kind of pointing that way, the fact that he can still move the way he can after 25 years, 26 years, whatever it's been is incredible. This is a pretty cool match to have for your last last WrestleMania match. I mean, honestly, as a dad, how much more could you want out of that? So I think it's going to be cool. But yeah, it's, uh,
00:46:06
Speaker
Seeing Dom beat Ray is going to be a little somber, I think, because I'm not on board with that at all. All right, it's time for the two biggest matches of the weekend, I think pretty much undisputedly.
00:46:19
Speaker
The culmination of one of the best told stories that WWE has had in at least a decade, at least since I came back into watching wrestling in 2014, this has been the best piece by piece long-term storytelling they've done. We'll start with the tag team championship match. The Usos going on almost two years as champs defending against Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn. Is there any chance that the Usos retain the belts?
00:46:46
Speaker
I mean, yeah, there's a chance, but do I see it happening? No. There's probably, I'd probably give it a 10% chance that Usos win this match. I just, I think all the momentum is with Kevin Owens and Sammy Zane. Crowd's going to go nuts. I think this is going to open night too, honestly.
00:47:04
Speaker
You think so? Yeah, that makes a lot of sense, especially if we're going to make night two all about the bloodline. I think that usos have to lose, unfortunately for them, because I don't know if their range shouldn't necessarily be over if this match is happening like in a vacuum, but their match is so tied in with the main event storyline. And I feel like regardless of what the results going to end up being, I feel like you have to start telling the story of, you know, tonight is the fall of the bloodline. And that's going to make it that much more dramatic when
00:47:33
Speaker
when Roman goes into Cody. Can Roman keep it going or is it going to be the end of it? What do you think, Marco? Any chance Uso's find a way to sneak out with the belt? Man, there's another person, Kevin Owens. I guess he's up for another Grand Slam thing as well if he wins the tag titles. Oh, yeah, he will be Grand Slam champ.
00:47:57
Speaker
So that's a possibility. And if, if it, you know, if I go with my own, you know, my own gimmick here with the, uh, WrestleMania shirts, um, they, they might win. Um, since they both have the, uh, you know, Russell, was it Russell Zania and KO media? That's the, uh, that's the gimmick, but he did lose last year against stone cold. So that doesn't really matter at all. Um, man, I, I don't want to give away my predictions. Uh, cause I have like a whole thing going in.
00:48:27
Speaker
I'm gonna say... Since you asked if there was a chance they were retained, I'm gonna say yes. There is a chance they will retain.
00:48:37
Speaker
Okay, fair enough. I'll say that it's, I think it's slim to none that Jimmy and Jay leave with the belts. All right, let's get into it. One of the most intriguing WrestleMania main events we've gotten in a long time. Um, I, you know, it's a lot of different ways they could go to this and the results of this match is going to have absolutely gigantic implications over the next year. I'll start
00:49:00
Speaker
If you asked me a month ago, I thought there were zero chance that Roman wins. But as the days and the weeks have gone by, we get closer and closer to Mania. Me and Jordan had a long conversation on the phone last night about this. I am almost convinced that Roman will reign. And the show goes on, man. I think he finds a way by hook or by crook to beat Cody and continue this reign as the undisputed champion. Marco, where are you at on this match?
00:49:32
Speaker
Yeah, it's been very, it's been, it's been very, uh, this is, this is another very hard match to, uh, predict only because it's going to be, you know, I think it's, it's, it's weird if Roman Reigns loses. Cause it's, you know, we've seen him just beat everybody. Um,
00:49:52
Speaker
A lot of people make a lot of great cases about why Cody shouldn't win. He's only been there for a year. He was away for so many months and just came back and they handed him this. He's not earning it, that type of thing. But then this news comes out today where Nick Khan, he's unheard.
00:50:18
Speaker
doing an interview and he talked about how their storylines are written months and months and months and months in advance.
00:50:28
Speaker
Going by that, it's a possibility Cody could win. They already have the storyline written out. And it kind of falls into my, how my predictions gonna go with the, cause they kind of run into each other, the bloodline match with, I mean, sorry, the Usos and KO and Sammy, that kind of runs into the, it kind of affects my prediction of the Cody Roman match. Cause I see, I see it playing out a different way.
00:50:56
Speaker
I see, you know, I mean, I see Jay be the aggressor, be the kind of taking the reins of the bloodline and the fallout of Roman Reigns losing to Cody. That's a possibility because he's always been that like, you know, that one that always stood up to Roman, even though he kind of acknowledged him in the beginning stages. He still has that I don't give a crap attitude. So I don't know, man. I don't know.
00:51:32
Speaker
I think they're just trying to swerve you into thinking Roman's going to win, personally. And I think Cody's going to win. That's my prediction, anyway. I think they're just trying to swerve people and say, Nick, Roman's the center of steamroll.
00:51:43
Speaker
move on next opponent, but there really is nobody left. Who else is left there, except for Seth Rollins, we know this, but other than that, like. You said it. But I mean, as far as like an attractive match, because you still have that, you have a storyline with Seth Rollins and Cody, you could still go with.
00:52:03
Speaker
because Cody's beaten him a bunch of times, and you know, Seth could be trying to get that one back, and maybe they have a match at SummerSlam, and then, you know, Seth Rollins wins at SummerSlam, takes the titles. And if the rumors are true about Roman leaving after media, I mean, I don't know. You make your own decision on that, but there's so way too many factors to just say flat-out Roman Reigns is gonna win. There's a lot of things that are going into it.
00:52:28
Speaker
for me anyway. Alright so I'm team rowing all the way. Marco's leaning a little bit Cody. Jordan explain to the listeners why Cody Rhodes has to win this match. I just feel like at this point the way they built Cody up with the way he's been booked since he came back
00:52:48
Speaker
I feel like a loss would be devastating for him at this point. I mean, Marco just said it. Who's left? Like, dude, this is just going to kill Cody's run. If he loses, if this is a clean, clean loss, he gets pinned one, two, three in the center of the ring. I just feel like it kills everything they did for Cody in the last year. I know the rain that Roman is on right now is unheard of and everything like that. So a lot of people are gonna be like, this isn't a bad loss.
00:53:14
Speaker
usually you'd be 100% right, but the way they've built Cody after they brought him back and the chase for the title and everything like that, I just, I feel like this would be a devastating loss for him at this point. And honestly, the amount of time they've put into Cody Rhodes since he came back the second time after the pec injury,
00:53:36
Speaker
I mean, dude, they've put a lot into Cody Rhodes. They've let him talk a ton, which we usually don't see him cut like emotional promos and things like that, but they've done it numerous times on this. Um, they just had him pin solo who had not lost yet the other night. I mean, it, it almost feels like they're giving it away, but
00:53:58
Speaker
I mean, they're still the, the chief on the other side of the ring that can beat anybody in WWE. So, um, like Marco said, I think this has been booked out so long. Like I think this was their plan all along when Cody came back. Um, the Peck injury definitely hurt him, but
00:54:17
Speaker
I feel like dude, he's never been as hot as he is right now. And, um, me and Seth were the most lukewarm people on Cody coming into WWE after his AEW run. I just, I didn't feel like this was a possibility for him. Yeah. I feel like if he loses to me, he goes right back to where he was when he came into WWE. He's just, he's just another guy. He's not the guy.
00:54:40
Speaker
And I feel like a lot of people are going to agree on that. Like I feel like he needs this more than anybody has ever needed it. Um, but I'm leaning heavy Cody just cause I think he needs it so much, but will it surprise me if Roman wins? No. But then at that point, I don't know where they go from there.
00:55:01
Speaker
Yeah, you are right. They did definitely put the strap to his back. And it seems like they already have it set for him to be like the face of the company. He's going to be like his demeanor, the way business suits. He has that face that you can put on anywhere, red carpets. If you're going to put someone in a position where
00:55:29
Speaker
going to be able to do all these red carpets and all that stuff. It's Cody Rhodes, dude. I mean, not nothing against Seth Rollins or anything like that, but they go for corporate-looking people, too. That's the other...
00:55:42
Speaker
side of things like, you know, very, you know, straightforward. No, like, don't give a key people as a champion when they when they do it like the mainstream stuff. Yeah, that's it. He is right. If if Cody doesn't win, it's bad. That's a really bad, bad, bad decision on their part to do so. You can't build someone up that much and then just
00:56:05
Speaker
to knock him down, but then again, maybe that's the whole point is, uh, you know, get that big win for Roman. I mean, who knows. I am going to go on the limb and say Randy Orton costs Cody, the match, man. I, that's what I see. I see Randy Orton coming back in RKO and this mofo.
00:56:27
Speaker
and Roman gets to win with outside interference once again. Okay, but me and Seth talked about this a little bit last night, so let's just lay it down on the recording. How on earth does that do anything to help WWE though? Like seriously, that theory, how does that do anything to help WWE?
00:56:44
Speaker
Because you got a red hot Cody and Randy Orton if you they already got a ton of freakin background So that's fun Cody can go off and do this thing Randy Orton and it gets Roman to a thousand days, bro Think of all the merch do the commemorative plaques the t-shirts man the fucking defining moments action figures if Roman hits a thousand days as champ You're this close dude. You've been this patient with this rain. Give him a
00:57:10
Speaker
another two months and for the rest of his career you could book had a thousand day reign as champion.
00:57:18
Speaker
Okay. But here's the problem with that. That's all well and good. So you're taking away the one true contender they have right now. And you're taking him straight out of the title match by a screw job from Randy Orton. Like, yeah, that's really how you think that they should end the biggest gate for WrestleMania history. You really feel like they should have Randy Orton take Cody Rhodes out of the title picture on his first WrestleMania main event.
00:57:45
Speaker
That's not how I think they should've, dude. I told you how I think they should've, dude. I think...
00:57:49
Speaker
Cody should have Roman locked in just a wicked arm breaker. Roman's about to tap out. Paul Heyman throws salt in Cody Rhodes eyes. Roman pins Cody and then Seth Rollins comes out to help Cody and make amends. And while they're doing that, Paul Heyman gets on the mic and challenges Seth Rollins to an impromptu championship match. And Seth comes in and curb stomps, Roman and wins. I think they need to run back WrestleMania nine, but with Seth and the whole Kogan.
00:58:18
Speaker
I think the fans would literally rush the rain and probably Yeah, I think people would love it dude I think there's enough nostalgia for that stupid ass in your WrestleMania 9 now man that I think people would and it's set dude I feel like if you put Seth and Cody against each other right now, dude, I think the crowd's more behind me
00:58:38
Speaker
Dude, have you listened the last three weeks to the whoa when Cody comes out? It's the loudest pop of the year, dude. I mean, people sing Nakamura's music, dude. I think, yeah, that part of his theme song's over, dude. To me, it's like the Yes chant, dude. The Yes chant was over. Daniel Bryan wasn't over though, dude. It's still Cody, man. It's still Cody. Wait. Daniel Bryan was not over when he won the title. Did you hear the crowd after he won?
00:59:07
Speaker
It's cuz I want to do the yes chance. Oh my god, so if you're just like going in reverse right now Like I don't even know what I'm listening to usually you're like the most like level-headed like smart Wrestling fan and I just feel like you're going off the deep end now. It's a hodie dude This is the greatest It's the greatest title run in my since I've been watching wrestling as a three-year-old, dude I've never seen
00:59:34
Speaker
a run like this, man. Even though Hogan's run happened while I was alive, I was too little to remember and experience it.
00:59:42
Speaker
I just, dude, Cody can't be the guy to fucking end it, man. He just can't, dude. And I don't know if, you know, it'd be a lot of work to get set to that point, but bro, you know me, dude, I fucking, I good-naturally clown on AW. I'd rather see Kenny Omega come over and be the one to end Roman's reign than Cody, dude. I just, the fact that this is how this is going to end, cause yeah, I mean, if I'm putting money down on it, as much as I love Roman, Cody's probably going to win this match. And I just hate it, bro. I hate that when we look back on this and we're like, how did it end?
01:00:12
Speaker
It's going to be Cody Rhodes beat Roman at WrestleMania. Give me Jay Uso. Give me Seth. Give me somebody else, dude. But, you know, Cody, he's hashtag not my champion, dude.
01:00:24
Speaker
He's definitely, he's tailor-made, dude. The way he's built, his look, he's... I'm with Jordan on this. I'm surprised you haven't picked this up. Obviously, you want the cooler people to be Roman Reigns, but you're not thinking in WWE terms.
01:00:42
Speaker
You're thinking of wrestling fan terms. I feel you, man. I feel you. Before the Cody fanboys come at me, remember, dude, I gave Cody wrestler of the Chick Foley show era when we did our last anniversary show. So all the respect in the world to the guy. But as me, if I'm just going straight up being a kayfabe fan, Cody just don't do it for me, man. He just don't. He's not my cup of tea. I'm like his look. I'm like the way he wrestles. His corny promos just aren't it for me, man.
01:01:08
Speaker
Don't know man. I feel like he's we talked about so about a month ago. I think on the show I think he's too good of an actor man, like he is a really good actor, you know him and Ted DiBiase Junior took those acting classes and they're both breaking in and I feel like he's such a good actor that it almost like stands out on the show and makes it like is weird as it says it makes it Unbelievable for me when he's out there man. It's just something about him is just off-putting his on-screen character You basically say he makes everyone else look bad. That's what you're saying. Oh
01:01:34
Speaker
Yeah, it kind of does. It's so much more realistic and more like a real actor would be than everybody else on the show that it just sticks out a little bit to me, man. I don't know if anybody else has felt that way or noticed that, but I'm just not that high on Cody as an on-screen character.
01:01:54
Speaker
And we're also talking about a turn because obviously this is gonna air before Smackdown. So we have no clue what's gonna happen on Smackdown. Whatever happens on Smackdown, the last show before maybe a weekend could entirely flip this whole thing upside down. So we don't know. And there's one thing we haven't... Here's another thing. I hate to throw these things out because people are gonna be listening and now they're gonna use this as a way to predict. You have not heard Paul Heyman do his most
01:02:24
Speaker
Wonderful phrase about Roman Reigns winning. Have you yet? The prediction, spoiler, not a prediction. If he does not say that Friday night, Cody's winning. I'm just going to give that away to everybody. If he doesn't say, if he doesn't say that, that's usually the cap. That's usually like the definitive Romans winning. If he does not screw those words on Friday, you can bet your bet your sweet asses. Cody Rhodes is walking out with those titles.
01:02:55
Speaker
Hey, since you guys didn't like my Randy Orton Schmaz, he didn't like my own. I got one more ending to throw at you guys. All right. This whole storyline has been about dusty roads, right? They have this dramatic just banger of a match. All of a sudden towards the end of it, there's a ref bump. The lights go out.
01:03:11
Speaker
we get a hologram like a holographic ghost of dusty roads comes out you think he's gonna give cody like this last little pep talk to push him over the edge and he fucking low blows him so roman can hit the fucking spear and superman punch whatever and pin him and it ends with the holographic ghost of dusty roads acknowledging roman reigns and kind of joining the bloodline posthumously all right well let's just move on to figure four after a
01:03:40
Speaker
I think it would be a pretty epic way to end up WrestleMania. But yeah, you're right. This mango tart's probably getting in my brain a little bit. I'm going off the deep end, sharing some of my deepest, darkest fantasy booking with the Foley fan. But let us know what you think of those three alternate endings I gave to WrestleMania. I think they're all pretty entertaining. Let's hear from Extra Cooler, and then we are going to talk this WCW crowd fund.
01:04:04
Speaker
Hey everyone, it's Nick, better known as Extra Cooler. Is there anything better than diving back into the wrestling archives and watching classic matches from the past?
01:04:13
Speaker
Yes, there is. It's doing that with your buddies while cracking jokes and enjoying some ice cold beverages. If that sounds like fun to you, then be sure to check out my new podcast, The Extra Cooler Show, where each episode, my Survivor Series team and I review an old school match chosen by you, the listeners. The Extra Cooler Show is available wherever you get your podcasts. Be sure to subscribe and follow us for new episodes every other Thursday morning.
01:04:47
Speaker
Alright, it's time for the weekly figure four where we discuss the latest and greatest in wrestling figure news. Want to remind you guys this segment is brought to you by Ringside Collectibles. Use code CHICKFOLY to save 10% on all your purchases. So there was a little bit of figure news this week, right guys?
01:05:05
Speaker
Yeah, just a little tiny bit for the first time in two years. We have another WWE crowdfund via Mattel Creations, the WCW Nitro stage along with five figures. So I'll kick off the discussion, man. I'll start with the positives. The stage is absolutely beautiful, man. It's they took the Nitro stage from 95 through 98 and just shrunk it down to elite scale.
01:05:34
Speaker
There's over 100 LED lights on this thing. The stage is absolutely spectacular. It's something I would have dreamed about as a kid. I mean, she had something I would have dreamed about this time last year, man. It is really, really awesome, and hats off to a job well done on that stage.
01:05:53
Speaker
Yeah, so I think the stage is really cool. All the lights and stuff and effects on it are really cool. I mean, was this my most wanted thing? Not necessarily, but I still think it's awesome. Again, it's gigantic, so I have no idea where I can put this in my house, but I definitely plan on adding it to the collection, assuming it gets to the right point for as far as the figures are concerned, but we'll get into that after we get done talking about the stage.
01:06:23
Speaker
Marco, Jordan kind of said it, if it gets to the right point, what point is your break-even point on these tiers with the figures? Break-even point? Oh, man. I don't know. I mean, I actually, like you said before, the stage is great. I think having all the lights and all that stuff is pretty cool. I'm curious to see what the material is, if it's actually metal.
01:06:52
Speaker
the WCW signs and all that stuff in the actual stage itself. I definitely would have liked some ring skirts.
01:07:00
Speaker
Um, or, and some ropes and some like, uh, like, uh, turnbuckles. So you can kind of switch out the, the, the previous, um, crowdfunded, uh, thing. That'd be pretty cool or, or a new ring altogether or something. I'm assuming that's going to come later on. Um, the actual, like the WCW like ring. Um, cause that whole arena like is, was pretty awesome. Like the, the mats with the flames and all that stuff. And it was just like a really, really cool looking, uh,
01:07:30
Speaker
show. That's one thing Eric Bischoff did great was he was a TV producer, so you know how to produce TV and have a great setup. I actually like that a little bit better than raw setup when you actually do a side-by-side comparison.
01:07:48
Speaker
It's definitely, I'm not, you know, the price point I think is really good on it. It's the backers, like, you know, the tiers that are, that's gonna kind of like make or break it for a lot of people.
01:08:05
Speaker
You're going to get a ton of figures a lot more than the last time around if it's funded correctly. It's some pretty cool ones at that. I'm pretty much all for it. I think in order to keep stuff like this going, as a collector, you should want to invest in this, and it is an investment.
01:08:28
Speaker
Yeah, that's what I said. That's kind of like my break even is with the figures and stuff like that and how that goes.
01:08:37
Speaker
To me, man, I feel like I got to have all five. I may end up just biting the bullet and doing it regardless, but 400 bucks and the only thing you guarantee is a ray and potentially a Hulk Hogan. You got plenty of that. Yeah. That's a tough pill to swallow, dude. Yeah, that's a tough pill to swallow, man. All five, I think the value is there for me. Even none of those figures really setting my soul on fire. I think it's a really cool idea to do some WC, like a love letter to WCW because it really hasn't
01:09:06
Speaker
They haven't done too much WCW based stuff in the line right like nothing where they've just gone all out like this is going to be an all WCW type thing. So it's really cool. I just think they're kind of limited by the folks under contract right to me the biggest thing missing is a figure like that doing great like that doing was so cool because you pretty much knew.
01:09:24
Speaker
like we're not going to get another ultimate edition doing if we don't do this whereas I feel like everybody included this line. I mean some of them already have had ultimate edition figures with hulk and warrior, we know raise got one already on the way, and you got to figure Scott Steiner DDP there's still a good chance they get some ultimate editions even if this doesn't work so I feel like there's maybe
01:09:42
Speaker
I feel like there's nothing that you absolutely have to fund this and you're never going to get something similar again. You know, like I keep going back to Glacier and Mortis. If we could have got one of those two guys, I feel like this would be a no-brainer, man, that they could get funded to whatever tier those guys were. I still, to me, feel like the biggest miss is not getting the Scott Hall debut. I just I feel like Denham Scott Hall was that was the figure that I feel like would have put this over the top. And I feel like everybody would have funded it to get that figure.
01:10:13
Speaker
But yeah, I mean, none of these are like, don't get me wrong, I want that warrior with the duster and stuff. I think that warrior is awesome and I want every warrior figure. But I mean, the Hogan, we have tons of Hogan figures, like Seth said, the Rey, I mean, whatever, it's fine. The Steiner, I definitely want. I think the Steiner and the warrior are definitely the two figs that I want the most.
01:10:37
Speaker
Honestly, if they just listed those by themselves on there and they were 75 to 100 bucks apiece I'd probably buy both of them just to say I had them having said that I feel like this group especially like the the four of us are definitely the target audience for these crowd fundings and I feel like I kind of feel obligated to fund these because I mean dude if these die and
01:11:05
Speaker
I don't know. You got to feel like you're part of the reason it dies if it does die because you're not funding it. Yeah. I mean, we're the ones who asked for this stuff. Like we wanted new stuff and cool stuff, but the problem is, dude, they can't give us a stage in a ring every single time. Like, dude, it's fine to just do five figures. Like I think it's cool and it'll be great for the figure photographers and stuff like that. Like the fact you can move all the lights and stuff like that. I think that's awesome.
01:11:31
Speaker
But dude, like eventually collectors are going to run out of room for this shit. Like where the hell am I going to put all these rings and stages and stuff? Like dude, maybe next time just do, I don't know, five to 10 figures and just let us roll with that. Cause I feel like the figures are always going to be the selling point, right?
01:11:47
Speaker
Um, they definitely are because everybody's into the figures, right? Like you said, not everybody can do the stage. I mean, I'd be willing to bet. I probably have more real estate devoted to wrestling figures than the vast majority of collectors out there. And even I have absolutely nowhere that I can think of where I'm going to ever have this stage on display. Like as right now, my game plan is to get this thing and maybe sit on that stage for a year or two, then try to flip it on eBay.
01:12:12
Speaker
Just cuz it's it's fucking massive which is cool as hell but dude if you got you know a family with kids and stuff man like
01:12:21
Speaker
I still don't see where you're setting this thing up at. Like you really got, if you could look at those measurements, dude, look at the inches on that thing. Three and a half feet wide. Yeah, that's some serious fucking floor space that you're talking about, dude. In addition to like, you know, you can't really have the ramp by itself, man. You got to have the ring with it too. So it's just, dude, it's going to be a hell of a setup. It will be cool as fuck. Like I said, the absolute kind of thing that you dream of as a kid, but as a grownup, just being, it's just, it's almost impractical, right?
Humorous Anecdotes and Collectible Trends
01:12:50
Speaker
Yeah. What are you going to do? Devote an entire room, have your friends over and be like, Oh no, no, don't go in there. Don't go in there. I got valuables in there. You put like a employees only sign on the door or something in Hawaii, man. I had
01:13:11
Speaker
We put carpet down in our garage in Hawaii just like some cheap carpet just made it like a little like bonus like rec room You know before Brett came along we had the beer pong table and foosball dartboard and stuff and I had an arena set up in there I had a whole full extreme sets arena with the wicket cool toys ring and I had the whole backstage set up too And I remember one time I had that I had a friend over it had no idea I was even a wrestling fan at all
01:13:34
Speaker
And I had to go into the garage to grab something real quick. I think I was going to like a bottle opener. And he just followed me in there like he naturally would if you were a friend's house. And he saw it. And I can't remember what I did. It was all such a blur in my mind because I had such a rush of anxiety. He was like, what is all this? And I was just like, I don't know. Stuff's china selling out of yard sale. And I just quickly fucking spun him around like I was fucking left tackling the NFL and fucking shoved him back into the fucking main part of the house, dude.
01:14:02
Speaker
That's for my future kids, never too early to get started. Yeah, dude. Stuff like that could be tough to explain. It's definitely a little bit more acceptable, even just in the six or seven years I've been collecting. It's a little bit more cool to do that stuff now. I think COVID really brought the weird niche collectibles to the mainstream.
01:14:26
Speaker
I'm rooting for it, man. If it gets to $9K, we're definitely going to get Steiner. I'll probably still stick with it. Like Jordan said, you feel like you got to because even though I'm not insane about this set of figures and the stage just for how I'm going to use it, how it's going to fit into my collection, I want to see what comes next, right? It's worth it to me to spend a little bit of money because at the end of the day, $400 is a lot of money, right? No shame on anybody if you're like, you know what? Fuck it. I'm not spending that.
01:14:54
Speaker
If you go in there, they got payment options, right? They got like, there's some low, there's some no interest payment options you can do when you check out. And there's some low interest payment options, like where, you know, you're basically paying like 20 bucks of interest over the course of a year. If you want to fund this thing, I do think that it's worth it just to make sure whatever the next thing is, we still get it, you know?
01:15:12
Speaker
they do need to get PayPal so I can do paying for like that's pretty shitty that we can't do that because that's what I do for all the high purchases now like anything over about like 250 I'm like yeah it's going on paying for I want to notice it coming out
01:15:28
Speaker
Yeah, it just makes it easier to swallow so you can spread it over basically once a paycheck take a little take a little bite and it Yeah, it just makes it easier to go down. Even if it is the same amount of money, dude. It's uh, You know, I don't know. I I really think I want to see them do some different things with the Mattel creations Format give us some individual figures, right? Like think of some guys that are under contract that we haven't got some of their cool looks like what if they gave us You know Brutus beefcake as the disciple as like a crowdfund, right? Like I mean that we've said on here before that would be a super toy to figure or
01:15:58
Speaker
Just different guys that are going to be straight repaints. There's so many different breaths you could do. And just, you know, throw those up on Mattel creation stuff like that and just see if you know, see what people are into, man. I think I think that could be a little bit easier to be a success. And it's not it's not as it's not as it's high risk, you know, when you go into the work to make these massive prototypes just for something to end up flaming out.
01:16:21
Speaker
Can we please, if they're taking requests, can we please get the purple Hasbro warrior in ultimate form? Come on, man. I know we've gotten a ton of warriors, but dude, everybody loves warrior figures and they always sell really well. We need that purple Hasbro in WWE ultimate form. I like that idea. I think I would take the green or the white over the purple one though, man.
01:16:47
Speaker
I don't know, dude. There's just something about that purple one that it just, I don't know. It's just, it looks so cool. I think it's just. The bulk on it was crazy, dude. Like I was one of the most like shredded action figures of all time, man. I like the, I like the gear on the green one's kind of funky. Like I got a custom elite of that. It's just weird with the white belt and shit doesn't really make any sense, but it's cool. Cause it's such a legendary figure, but I really liked the gear on the white one, man. It was like the green and orange little warrior logos.
01:17:15
Speaker
That's like people are like, I saw it on, it might have been, they're like, they're running out of warriors to make. I was like, no, they're not. We ain't even close to done, dude. No, we didn't even get the- There's so many they could do. Yeah, I was actually thinking for the Coliseum Collection. I think I'm hoping that they do the LJN Warrior.
01:17:36
Speaker
Yeah, that'd be pretty good. Yeah, and um, and then we haven't even I mean maybe we have but I don't remember we have we ever got the summer slam 91 Warrior we had and we need it. Yeah, and we got slaughter. We got a Hulk to go with it. We got a general You know, what's a colonel Mustafa? Yeah, we need that warrior man We definitely that we got Sid as the ref from that match. Yeah, we need we need that war and we need what is general ad man? Yeah
01:18:06
Speaker
Stay him up wherever he's at right now. Do let's get an elite of him plenty of warriors to go around for everybody So just to kind of recap man. I think we're all the same. We love the stage just a little lukewarm on the figure selection, but I think Are we all in agreement that we're gonna end up back in this thing is just gonna The difference is gonna be how much pumped up we are about it depending on where it ends up funded. I
01:18:30
Speaker
Yeah, I'm backing this no matter what, dude. I know I said the 9,000 thing today, but the more I thought about it, I'm like, dude, if it misses by one and I'm the one that didn't order it, dude, I'd be crushed. Yeah, that would suck, dude. Yeah, I'm kind of right there with you, man. I think I'm backing it no matter what.
01:18:50
Speaker
By the time next year comes out, dude, even if we did end up with just the, you know, just Hulk and Ray or God forbid, just the Ray, I think I'm going to forget about the money I spent and I'll just be excited to kind of unbox that nitro stage and set it up once or twice and take some pictures, even if I don't end up doing anything else with it. But I will be stoked if we end up getting all five figures because, yeah, I mean, five ultimate edition figures. That's awesome, dude. Even if they're not the greatest in the world, that's still going to be really fun to get that all at once and just unboxing the thing is going to be a blast. You know, yeah.
01:19:18
Speaker
All right, let's hear from John Swallow and then we'll get into some listener mail.
WrestleMania Weekend Plans and Wrap-Up
01:19:28
Speaker
If you want to feel the war of the crown, go strap on those spandex honeys and listen to the Coming Down the Isle podcast hosted by me, Jaybone. Each week I have a guest ranging from wrestlers, podcasters, and even some family members. The guests pick the match and we talk about it along with their fandom. Also, each week I provide my analysis of the wide world of wrestling and some figure talk. So get on it up and subscribe to the Coming Down the Isle podcast.
01:19:55
Speaker
Apple Spotify or wherever you get podcasts today. Oh, yeah All right guys we are gonna do listener mail I am under strict orders from Sheena to save anything that uh You know you guys remember I said the start of so she's a little under the weather I'm under strict orders from Sheena aka chick Foley that any of these questions that aren't necessarily like you know gonna
01:20:19
Speaker
They have to be answered prior to WrestleMania weekend We're gonna save them for the next time she's on the show cuz she always loves doing that so much So we'll have a super-sized mailbag for next episode Phil D starts up Phil done it the the Commissioner of the Foley picks League our prediction League we have in our patreon exclusive Chick Foley show group ton of fun hit Chick Foley comm to check that out We're gonna be starting up the new prediction league challenge here pretty soon So it's a good time to get in if you want to be a part of that He says how much notice am I going to get on?
01:20:47
Speaker
Fildy, who also did not make any picks when we did the NCAA tournament that I won, by the way. Yeah, he's in the UK. He's got the time difference. We know he likes to booze it up a little bit, man. So, you know, shout out to Fildy. We love that guy. Says how much notice am I going to get on rounding up the pickers this weekend? So this episode will be dropping Thursday morning. So if you're listening to this and you're part of Foley picks, get your picks in because it's a shitload of predictions. For those that don't know, it's the championship of our fourth season of this. And we've put
01:21:17
Speaker
We've tied it up into just a gigantic shootout of an event. You got stand and deliver, super card of honor, and both nights at WrestleMania, and a winner takes all challenge. And it's 26 people we got to round up predictions for for this thing. So yeah, everybody gets your picks in. Marco, you're notoriously one of the later ones. You've been doing better this season, though. I'll give you that, man. Phil hasn't complained too much about you this year, dude. But yeah, everybody gets your picks in if you're listening to this.
01:21:44
Speaker
So James Cody Canterbury he asked me and she know how we play to cope that evening Dude, I don't think it's gonna be anything to cope I think that when the the trademark thing goes up and WrestleMania face the black I think I'm gonna be sitting there on the back porch Just holding one finger up in the air as Jordan is like smashing all the furniture dude all the lawn furniture back there because Cody took the L Yeah, I guess well, I guess I'll be there to find out when I All right, let's see
01:22:14
Speaker
Jason can he says I got to put the toddler to bed Saturday evening He usually likes long baths and several books before he lays down should I skip all that and put them in bed early? So I don't miss the showcase of the immortals or pause the show until I'm ready I say let him stay up and watch it bro. This is like you know Christmas for wrestling fans dude like with the little guy check it out man. Where are you guys at on this you guys are dads dude? I'm not exactly sure what age I
01:22:36
Speaker
What age your little guy is dude, but I say just let him stay up I mean toddler usually means two three four somewhere in there. So I'm actually somewhere in that area. I
01:22:47
Speaker
Dude, that age stand up late is an absolute disaster. The next day, though, is the problem. I would probably still put him down. Um, we, we talked about night one already. It doesn't look like it's going to be the greatest night of wrestling. Um, I would pause the show and just watch it whenever you get him down. Mark, I'm at you, man. You team stay up or team, team go to hell to sleep.
01:23:13
Speaker
Um, I mean, we try to get, get him to go to sleep. I know he's definitely going to be up for night one. Cause obviously it's Saturday. Um, I mean, judge a buyer, a rumble. He's, he stayed up the whole night till the end. Watch, watch Hardy and everything.
01:23:31
Speaker
The funny thing is he hopped right up the next morning like no issues. It's going to suck because it's Sunday and he's going to want to see Roman because he's a huge bloodline fan. He wants to see all the bloodline people. That's going to be rough, but we'll have to make an executive decision to be the wife and see
01:23:55
Speaker
see what we can do, but yeah. I mean, as me as a wrestling fan, I don't care if he stays up. I want to do a joy and have his moments and be able to live to tell those tales of what he's seen, you know, such and such did this or whatever.
01:24:11
Speaker
But yeah, you know, it always just circles back to the, to the lady, to the lady of the house to see what happens. So we'll see. Definitely always defer to them. Yeah. All right. Our good friend, Trey white, better known as my damn toys is flying out to LA this week for WrestleMania. He wants to know if there's anything in particular you would like him to ask the Mattel design team.
01:24:32
Speaker
There sure is. Why the hell was Scott Hall and Denham not included in the WCW set? Yeah. Where's, where's warrior from SummerSlam91? Ask, ask, ask that question. Watch. Hey, we're saying all this now and they're doing figure reveals tomorrow and watch. They're going to reveal all these things. I got a funny feeling we're going to be WCW heavy on these figure reveals to help try to push along the crowd. My biggest question would be,
01:24:59
Speaker
Where's the WCW ring? Are we getting a ring or are we gonna get at least a conversion kit for the, cause you can do it with the, the attitude of our ring with can, you can make that into a nitro ring pretty easy. So yeah, ask about a WCW ring. Cause I think that could be something that could really push me over the edge to, to want to go ahead and pull the trigger on this thing. No, they're probably gonna do another ultimate edition with the WCW ring to hose us out of $150 again, Seth. Damn. You know what I see, man? I see an ultimate edition ring with Hall and Nash both included.
01:25:29
Speaker
I don't think me and you are going to be able to split that one. Yeah. Just looking at what the stock is right now, dude, I don't think the cane ring did quite as well as they were expecting it to. I think the next, but it still did okay. I think next time they throw in two figures and all a Nash. Yeah. I mean, that would, that would sell instantly.
01:25:47
Speaker
I think that's why we didn't get the outsiders in this set because I don't think you want to bury, I don't think you want to put those two guys behind the crowd phone. Dude, the majority of the hate that I've read on that cane ring is the actual boxing of the cane. That's why a lot of people didn't get it because they hate that they changed the Ultimate Edition box for one figure.
01:26:07
Speaker
Yeah, it's a windowless box and I say even beyond that dude, you can make a windowless box look really cool. It's the flimsiest cardboard remember I told you Jordan like because we, me and Jordan went half on that ring and you know I wanted the ring Jordan wanted the cane, but dude the cardboard was so flimsy I was nervous to ship it man because Jordan's a MOC collector and obviously if it's something that doesn't even got a window like the condition of the box is everything man it was very very soft cardboard like
01:26:33
Speaker
I'm trying to think of something to compare to. It wasn't even like a Nabisco box, like a cereal box. You know what I mean? It was flimsier than that. It was like if the moment you take the plastic tray out of it, that thing is laying down flat. You know what I'm talking about? Yep.
01:26:49
Speaker
Yeah, it was. It's almost like this that they put on the outside of the figure boxes like when you have to slide the figure box out almost. Yeah. Yeah, man. It was maybe like a cut hair cut hair thicker than that, dude. But yeah, it's like I said, you'll see when you got it in hand, man. It's just I just I was just very concerned about that getting like creased up and messed up and everything. So.
01:27:10
Speaker
Zach, we got two more questions here. Zach Hertzler says, what's on the menu this WrestleMania weekend? So I'll start. So we're going to do some, Sheena makes just some mean chicken wings. We're going to do chicken wings and fries on Saturday night. Still trying, we're definitely going to do some traditional Buffalo. Still trying to dial in what we're going to do for some of the assorted flavors to accompany that. We're thinking maybe some Old Bay or maybe some garlic parm. And then for night two, we're just going to do a badass breakfast for dinner spread, you know.
01:27:36
Speaker
Remember it was a couple weeks back on the listener mailman talk about having that cold cheese on a hot breakfast sandwich So we're gonna get to experience it for a WrestleMania moment gonna get some biscuits toast just all the fixings man bacon sausage Scrambled eggs. It's gonna be on point. I think it'll be a nice way to wrap up an awesome weekend of wrestling Marco What do you guys got planned?
01:27:55
Speaker
Uh, nothing crazy. Uh, for Saturday, like I said, I'll be probably hanging with my friends, uh, for night one of media, uh, then spending, you know, Sunday, Sunday at home, but, uh, pretty much just on Saturday, just drinking and, uh,
01:28:11
Speaker
drinking and probably like pizzas and all that stuff. My buddy lives in Everett, Mass, which they have a ... That's where one of the breweries is housed. It's a night shift brewery, so we'll probably head there for the day, get hammered. Then a little bit down the street, there's a bourbon place, like a bourbon bar. We'll probably head there, drink some bourbon, and then ...
01:28:35
Speaker
Head back to shit. You might as well get it into mania, bro. We will. Don't worry. Well, I'll make it. I'll pace myself. I'm a pro at this. Don't you? I feel like any time I'm drinking out in public for some reason, I drink way faster, man. I get way more fucked up, dude. Like if I'm at home, I can kind of keep a buzz going and maintain it. I can get to like a seven on the buzz meter and maintain it throughout the day. But I feel like any time I go out, man, I always end up
01:29:02
Speaker
Going a little bit too hard. Yeah, it's like that Stone Cold clip. I drank a beer. What? I drank one beer. What? Two beers. What? That one, yeah. That'll be me on Saturday, most likely. All right. Again, thanks, Zach, for that question. Sam Brose, and this was the last question of the weekend, man. I'm going to let you two Cody Marks answer first. What will Cody's gear be? Ooh.
01:29:30
Speaker
Got to honor his daddy, man. I think it's going to be some sort of, uh, there's going to be some polka dots. I'm not sure on the color yet, but I, I think he's going to honor his daddy on Sunday night. Yeah. I think it's it. I think he's going to have some type of like.
01:29:45
Speaker
I know we, we see the weight belt that he, uh, if you guys haven't seen that yet, definitely check that out. He, you know, he made his promise. He has that weight belt and on the inside of it has all the, you know, all the promotions that he's worked for and his hiatus from our WWE. Um, but I think he's going to have some, like, it's going to be like a finish a story thing. So, but I think it's going to be like a, an amalgamation of like.
01:30:11
Speaker
that his time away, including like Stardust. He's gonna have some like Stardust something in there. It's gonna be like, it's gonna be a lot of, it's gonna be a lot of his gimmicks into one, I think.
01:30:23
Speaker
These are going to put a lot of effort into it for this time around. The real question is, what's the crowd reaction going to be when he wins and then the gold dust music hits and gold dust walks down the ring?
01:30:45
Speaker
I don't want to see Goldust. I want to see Dustin Rhodes, man. I would mark out, dude, because I'm a big Dustin Rhodes fan. Going back to the OG Natural Days date, you might see a little glimmer of a gangster tear in the corner of my eye, dude, if Dustin Rhodes comes out.
01:31:02
Speaker
We don't need no music or nothing. They just have him jump the guardrail like fucking like Steve Austin's brother did last year at WrestleMania Yeah, he should at least be in attendance dude like you he'll be there he has to be
01:31:18
Speaker
All right, fellas, that's it. Again, thanks everybody for the questions. Like I mentioned at the start of the segment, if we didn't answer your question tonight, it will be answered on the next episode once we have Sheena back. Sheena's fault. Yeah, all Sheena's fault, so blame Harrison. Any hate mail, I'd direct it straight to her.
01:31:36
Speaker
That's it, man. Check out all the links on social media. Obviously, we're going to have live threads going in the Facebook group. It's a ton of fun, so if you're listening and you're not a part of that, just head over to chickfoli.com and you get signed up. It's the closest thing to watching a show with 100 of your best friends at the same time. We always have a lot of fun with those, and we're going to keep it running all through the weekend with
01:31:56
Speaker
Supercard of Honor, Stand and Deliver, and both nights of WrestleMania. I think that's it for another edition of Boys' Nights. First time we've done this in a while, man. I think it's been about a year since it's been just the fellas on here. Yeah, definitely. Marco, leave us with some closing thoughts as we head into WrestleMania 39 weekend. Just finish the story. That's what we'll go with. Finish the story.