Falcons Fan Frustration
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If the Falcons lose this week and they don't fire fucking Arthur Smith, I'm gonna drive down to Atlanta myself and burn that fucking place to the ground.
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So guys, obviously, you know what happened yesterday afternoon. Kyler Murray came back, shook off the rusts and beat the Falcons. And I have not heard from my best friend and the co-host of the goal line, Jordan, since right before the Cardinals were lining up for that game-winning field goal. So obviously, I haven't seen anything on the news about Mercedes-Benz Stadium going up in flames. But for all I know right now, Jordan is en route to Atlanta.
00:00:39
Speaker
You know to burn it down like freakin General Sherman. So Yeah, it looks like it's gonna be just me tonight rolling solo It was a fun week of football I think we had five games that ended up that were won or lost in the last play yesterday So great week of action to bring it to you guys It's gonna be different with me just rolling solo But I am gonna do my best to give you guys, you know the best episode of the goal line that I could Wait a sec
Arthur Smith's Coaching Future
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Jordan, you're back. The gasoline is poured. The stadium begins to burn. And Arthur Smith is fucking toast. Jordan said he's getting fired one way or another this week. The easy way or the hard way. What's going on, dude? Just another fucking day. It's just
00:01:39
Speaker
I got nothing, man. I have no words to describe the Falcons. Anybody that's been listening to the show this long knows that you are just a diehard Falcons fan. I mean, you bleed it, dude. You live for this team. I probably put the Falcons like a close second to your family, dude.
00:01:57
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on the importance level in your life, man, let them have it. We'll do away with the normal intro before we get into the rest of the week of football.
Falcons' Surprising Loss
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How are you feeling as a Falcons fan after they lose to the one in eight Cardinals with Kyler Murray playing his first game of football in about 11 months? Oh, don't forget. They let him break a 34 year streak of a tight end, not having a hundred yards for the Cardinals. And Trey McBride gets a hundred yards yesterday. I just,
00:02:27
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I mean, I knew it was coming. Like I picked the Cardinals to win this game. Like, and somehow it was still worse than even what I had projected.
00:02:39
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I don't know. It's just like, I'm at a loss now, like for how embarrassing it is watching them play football. Like I've sat through like some of the worst losses ever, but I've never felt like they were as hopeless as they are now for as much talent as they have on the offensive and defensive side of the ball.
00:02:59
Speaker
Watching them play football is like the opposite of what you're supposed to be watching when you're watching an NFL team. Like you're supposed to have some semblance of hope. Um, but there just is none. I just, I don't trust anybody on that team. I don't trust anybody in the organization from the owner down. The fact that he's not fired right now tells you really all you need to know about the Falcons. I mean, the last three games he just lost.
00:03:30
Speaker
I don't know. They're all totally wittable, man. They are all totally wittable. They should be sitting pretty. Hold on. So they lost to Will Leves in his first start ever. And this is mind you after Malik Willis came in on the third play of the game and fumbled. So the Falcons already had the upper hand in that game immediately. Right. Then they come back last week.
00:03:50
Speaker
The Vikings started that Jared Hall, dude, he gets concussed right out of the gate. Josh Dobbs doesn't even know the cadence or any of the plays and comes in and wins that game. And then Kyler Murray comes back, looks like dog shit, first of all, in the first half. I mean, I also like the couple of scrambling plays and stuff. He didn't really look like Kyler Murray, which you kind of expect in play game. He was still shaking off the rest.
Falcons' Issues: Coaching & Management
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Heineke gets hurt, but he looked horrible. There was one play where Seth called me Heineke's running towards the end zone. It's literally a touchdown and he just slides at the five yard line for no reason at all. Like that's how I know that some of my reactions are not overreactions is when like Seth or another one of my buddies texted me. He goes, why the hell did Taylor Heineke slide there? Like I know they scored on the next play, but like, what was the purpose of that slide?
00:04:44
Speaker
Indeed there's something to be said. I mean the football is an emotional game I think it would get everybody fired up if you see a QB scramble in from you know 18 yards out or whatever and you know lower the Shoulder to cross the goal line man as opposed to sliding at the one and then doing a little handoff I think the most frustrating part for me is like it's pretty clear that B genre Robinson is by far the best player on that team and I don't even think it's debatable at this point like
00:05:09
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I mean, the dude had 40 yards after the first quarter. I think he had 50 the rest of the game. Like, I just don't think Arthur Smith knows what he's doing. And
00:05:20
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Like everybody makes these jokes about Arthur Smith is trying to be the smartest guy in the room. Like, no, that's really what he's trying to do. He's like trying to prove that, man, I'm going to win without giving my best players the ball. Like I'm going to show you guys how this is done. And it's like, I said it yesterday. I don't think anybody in that organization deserves a pass right now. I think Terry Fontenot has blame. I think Arthur blank has huge blame.
00:05:46
Speaker
I just, I feel like the fact that he still has a job today tells you kind of everything you need to know as a whole about the Falcons. This organization is not committed to winning. They are not serious about winning. You, you literally dumped three first round picks into three offensive players and the offense looks as bad as it's ever looked. And like Arthur Smith was supposed to make the offense look good. Like even without the star players, the offense was supposed to look better. It's worse than it's ever been.
00:06:16
Speaker
Dude, his first year he had Matt Ryan in that offense as, as old as Matt Ryan looked his last year in Atlanta, he still looked a hundred times better than Ritter or Heinecke has looked at all and Mariota last year for that matter. I just.
00:06:32
Speaker
I don't get it, man. They ran this dude out of town. And for what? The Falcons are in a worse place than they were two years ago to me. Outside of the cap situation, they're in no better of a spot than they were two years ago. And that's with better players, really.
00:06:48
Speaker
I just, I think I AG met Ryan on this team looks pretty damn good, man. I think they're setting a lot better than they are right now after, you know, 10 weeks of the regular season. So I root for obviously everybody knows I worked for Nebraska in college and I refer Atlanta and the pros between those two teams. They don't have one quarterback that I trust completely to pass over five yards. Like that's, that's where I'm at with my football fandom right now. And it's, it's a bad place to be, man. It really is. I just, I feel for some of these guys, like,
00:07:18
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this is not what Bijon Robinson thought he was coming into. There's just, there's no way. Same thing with Pitts in London. Like there's, there's no way this is what they thought they were walking into. And it's sad, man. And the worst part about this whole fucking thing is somebody reminded me today, they are a game back of the NFC South lead. So they can seriously still win this division. I have zero hope that they're going to
Falcons' Division Dilemma
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do that. And I really don't want them to, because
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knowing them, but when the division and then Arthur Smith will probably get like a five year extension off the left of the South for the next 10 years. Like there's your worst nightmares. They, they win it and they catch, you know, one of the good wildcard teams who's got some injuries and is just in a funk and they end up, you know, sneaking, winning a playoff game. And that's almost your worst nightmares. A Falcons fan is messed up as that sounds right now. It is. And
00:08:11
Speaker
I know this is taking way longer than it should, but I mean. No, you're good, man. Dude, this is, I look at, you know, you're my, before being my podcast coach, you're also my boy, dude. So I'm just looking at this as a, you know, I know you're not going to go sit down and talk to a therapist. I'm looking at this, you know, this is your chance to vent and share with the group and let out some of that negativity out of you, man. Just let it flow. Like I know a lot of people don't get it.
00:08:34
Speaker
And for what, whatever it is, what it is. But like, dude, when you root for a sports team, like you put your heart and soul into it. I mean, you know that better than anybody else. I watched me and you watch the Superbowl together. Like I know what that looks like. I saw your soul leave your body in the middle of that game.
00:08:52
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Like it's just, dude, when, when you put so much, like, I mean, first of all, you're spending money on watching them play, even if you're not going to games, you're still spending money on watching them. You're buying jerseys. I mean, dude, we bought Bijon jerseys. I bought my whole family Sunday ticket or whatever cable you're paying for, man. Yeah.
00:09:09
Speaker
Dude, honestly, it's an escape, man. If you really sit there and boil it down to what it is, it seems dumb, right? You're getting emotionally invested in people that don't know you exist, but dude, it's just a fun little escape for a couple hours a week, man.
00:09:25
Speaker
to you know to go on that ride it is a ride you know for all the highs and lows you just hope that they balance each other out right over the course of your fanhood the highs and lows you end up you know sort of being equal on the scale but for falcons fans over the last twenty years day we just had our freakin hearts ripped out and kicked down the street so many times
00:09:45
Speaker
Yeah, it's just it's frustrating to and I know like this sounds ridiculous. I guess many times as the Falcons have just absolutely shit on their fans with the way they've blown games and stuff like this shouldn't be my breaking point. My breaking point should have been a long time ago. Obviously, it's just dude, I'm not one of those people that's just gonna like
00:10:07
Speaker
abandoned a team like i just know i don't know you're loyal dude i don't know it's probably the first word i need to describe you is freaking loyal man i just and dude i'm the same way with life like i'm loyal to my friends like even sometimes to a fault um it's just who i am but the thing is is like i'm yesterday kind of made me realize how ridiculous how it is that i just like let this control my sunday every week like
00:10:36
Speaker
No, I'm being serious. Sunday, no, I'm laughing because I've been there, bro. To me, I think you're under selling it. It ain't the Sunday, bro. Dude, some of those Falcons losses, it's lunch Tuesday before I'm back in a good mood where I could smile and laugh about stuff like I normally would.
00:10:52
Speaker
It's just, I don't know, man. You just, you, you like root for a team so long and like put so much into it. And like, don't get me wrong. I did not think the Falcons were going to be good this season before the season even started. I said, I'm hopeful because they got a bad schedule, but I'm not expecting anything. Like I was hoping Bijon would look like a star and he does when they give him the ball like that. That's the one takeaway I'm going to have from this season is Bijon is as good as I thought he was going to be.
00:11:19
Speaker
problem is he doesn't get the ball enough so I'll never get to find out under this offense how good he actually is but it's just I don't know man you just do this every Sunday and just peek behind the curtain yesterday we we set up Christmas stuff in my house we and I know people are groaning already like I'm talking about Christmas and it's a week before Thanksgiving I get it
00:11:42
Speaker
But setting all this stuff up and I didn't really, I was watching the noon games, but I was barely watching the noon games. And the, usually when the Falcons aren't playing, like that's when I enjoy football. So it sucked for me. Cause like the noon game should have been my enjoyment of the day at three o'clock window hit. And I just, I knew what was going to happen just cause I know how this team does things. And I don't know, man, somehow it was even worse. Like.
00:12:10
Speaker
Just watching that fucking idiot on the sidelines smiling during the game. It's just, cause he knows Arthur Blank ain't going to fire him. Like as much as I'm calling for him to get fired. That's not Arthur Blank's MO. He's he fired Dan Quinn after they started own five, but that was a desperate measure situation. Um, I don't know, man. I just, I don't see any way this improves with the head coach being Arthur Smith. I feel like
00:12:39
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I don't know. I mean, I feel like he thought he had a way to make this team work and obviously it's not working because like I said, they've gotten worse every year. Um, and yeah, dude, watching them lose to the Cardinals who had one win, two wins in the last year, one win this season, it just, it was so disheartening just watching them just collapse against that team. Cause dude, I, Kyler Murray is a good player. I'm not going to say he's not.
00:13:08
Speaker
The Cardinals are not a good team at all. They're just not. That's a bad football team, and the Falcons just eventually let them take it over. Yeah, frustrating to watch. That's really the gist of it. I don't know, man. It's not enjoyable. I'm so glad they have a bye this week, so I don't have to watch them lose.
00:13:30
Speaker
Dude, the worst part is too, is like they needed this game because they played the Saints off the buy and you know how much I hate that game. That's a huge game too. Yeah, it's just, and that's, we'll get into it when we start talking about the week and stuff, but it's just, yeah, it's bad. I know I didn't go off as much as everybody was hoping, but it's just... I think you did, man. This was a solid 12 minute rant on the Falcons, dude. It was all good stuff, man. Do you feel at least a little bit better getting that off your chest and sharing it with the world?
00:14:01
Speaker
I don't know, check your Twitter real quick. Is Arthur Smith still employed? No, I don't feel better. All right. Before we get into the rest of the week, dude, we have a suddenly really intriguing Monday night game, man. The Broncos holding a seven point lead in the third quarter and just stopped the Bills on a fourth down, man. What do you think, dude? Is Russ and the Broncos, are they about to start making something happen second half of the season or are the Bills just in a huge slump at the worst time?
Bills' Struggles & Broncos' Surge
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Dude, I said this three weeks ago and you played it off. Like, there's nothing going on here. There's something wrong with the Bills and it starts with Josh Allen. I don't know what is going on with this dude and the Reeds he's making. The first interception was definitely not his fault. Gabe Davis should have caught that ball. That second one was horrible. That was one of the most god-awful throws I've seen him make. That was like when my son throws on Madden, dude. Just, you know, you got to deep out. The quarterback is all over it from the moment the ball snapped and you still just throw it anyways.
00:14:59
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I don't know, man. I don't think the Broncos are going to make a run by any means, but I mean, if they beat the Bills tonight, that would be the Chiefs and the Bills in the last three weeks. I can't argue with that. It is pretty impressive. But yeah, I think this has way more to do with the Bills than it does the Broncos. Should be fun to keep our eye on anyways as we go through the rest of the show. You ready to get into the week of football? Yeah, let's do it.
00:15:31
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Alright, we're gonna talk about three teams at the top because I feel like there's no other place we can start this week. We're gonna start with the Texans.
00:15:41
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CJ Stroud has to be the best rookie quarterback ever, right? Like there's the, I don't even think it's arguable at this point, dude. He's probably in the MVP conversation at this point. If they ended up making, you know, D'Amico Ryan's is starting to look like a lock for, for coach of the year. I think, you know, unless he goes in a huge slump, he's going to win rookie of the year. And yeah, I think he's on the fringes of MVP right now. He's been the best quarterback in the league last two weeks. That's hands down.
00:16:06
Speaker
Yeah, I would say NFL rookies tend to fade a little bit, you know in December that last month We see that traditionally a lot but dudes looking like the real deal so far and you got a feel for the panther now I don't feel for the Panthers but I feel for Bryce yellow man, like how Awkward is that that you know, this team gave up all this and he's clearly I mean, I wouldn't even say he's the second best QB in this class right now, but excuse me
00:16:30
Speaker
he's definitely not better than uh than cj shroud man so yeah i but he's looking he's looked amazing two straight weeks game-winning drives man what more could you ask for we talked about this earlier i think it was a couple weeks ago but i just want to reiterate dude the texans went out and they got their quarterback and then rather than just like wait it out and see what they get next year for a draft pick they were like you know what screw it let's trade next year's draft pick and get go back up and get will anderson dude
00:17:00
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When there's a guy on the board that you really want, this should be a lesson to NFL GMs. When there's somebody there that you really want and you think that they fit your team mold, you just go get them. The cost doesn't matter, dude. Draft picks, I mean, 50% of them bust anyway. There's a chance that your next five draft picks can all be blessed. So if the guy's there that you want and you know he's gonna fit your team, you just go
Texans' Draft Success
00:17:24
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get him, dude. Will Anderson's a stud.
00:17:26
Speaker
He doesn't always show up in the stats, but just the way he plays, he plays hard and takes on blocks and stuff. And like, dude, a lot of young defensive ends and rush ends, they don't know how to do that. Like all they're worried about is getting to the quarterback. He's just a fundamental, fundamentally sound football player. And I mean, the Bengals did kind of give that game away yesterday. I'm not saying like the Texans just absolutely obliterate the Bengals cause they didn't.
00:17:52
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but they did enough in the end and be one of the hottest teams in the NFL, if not the hottest team in the NFL. So yeah, man, hats off to the Texans. That was absolutely impressive. And CJ Stroud is the truth.
00:18:04
Speaker
Dude, the Jaguars better watch out. The Texans are only a game back. They already beat the Jaguars in Jacksonville earlier this season. They actually whooped their ass. I think they beat them in something like 37 to 17. So I mean, yeah, they could end up winning the freaking AFC South and hosting a playoff game. And that is not a team. You know that fan base is thirsty for it, man. That place is going to be going nuts, dude. Could you imagine if a wild card, Cleveland, goes into Houston to play the Texans, man, for the opening week at the playoffs? How great would that be?
00:18:32
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Also, I want to say After like what was it week three or week four me and Seth both picked We said the Texans could easily win the South and everybody kind of mocked us like I got a couple text messages about it Yeah, yeah, then look what's happening now. D'Amico Ryan has those boys playing like They don't have a lot of household names in that receiving Corps but Nico Collins and tank Dell are doing it Dalton Schultz is an excellent tight end and dude, I think
00:19:01
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I think old Damien Pierce lost his job yesterday.
Browns vs Ravens: Watson's Comeback
00:19:05
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Devin Singletary, I think he had 150 yards rushing yesterday. He looked incredible yesterday. So yeah. Um, I said, we're going to talk about three teams. I think we know what three teams we're going to talk about just cause we don't ever see them on the top of the league. The Browns are the second one dude that in the Baltimore beat their Ravens, dude.
00:19:25
Speaker
And not, not just beat them. Weren't they down like 17 or 14 or something like that? I mean, dude, they, they, they look tough, man. The Browns are a tough team, dude. Okay. Well, we can mute this part in the post-production, but the Sean Watson was 14 or 14 in the second half yesterday.
00:19:42
Speaker
He killed it there. He looked like so. Yeah, he didn't quite look like the old Deshaun, but he was definitely the best half of football he's played as a Cleveland Brown. And dude, that was a tough run. He made to set up that game one and field goal, man, you know, broke out of some pressure in the backfield and it picked up the yard as they need to make, you know, to give them a shot to win the game. So, dude, if they can just get if they can get the poor man's version of 2020 Deshaun Watson, like this team is going to be nasty in the playoffs, man. I still don't think Watson's good enough to get them
00:20:12
Speaker
you know, to get them to like a conference championship, but they are going to be a hell of a problem for whoever they end up playing come January. Dude, I think all they really need is 60% of 2020 Deshaun Watson. I seriously think if they get 60% of him, that's all they're going to need. They don't need a ton of offense. Now granted, they had to score a lot of points yesterday, but I don't think that's going to be their general on how they win games. I think their defense is going to shut the other team down more times than not.
00:20:41
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Um, but yeah, good luck playing them when it gets to crunch time and they got that defense. And like we said, if Watson's even 60% of what he was, best of luck, man.
00:20:54
Speaker
Yeah, I think they're the kind of team that no matter who they're playing against, they can they can junk it up and get it to at least where like it's coming down to the last possession one way or another. You know what I mean? And then it's just down to who makes a couple of plays in the closing minutes. But but yeah, they're going to be a tough out man. If I'm if I'm one of the true AFC heavyweights, I do not want to see Cleveland coming into my stadium in January.
00:21:14
Speaker
The craziest part is their best offensive player has been out since week two, dude. They haven't had Nick Chubb since week two. Imagine if they had him what they would look like right now. Yeah, they're going to be tough. Seth always says I have this underdog fetish, dude. I don't think this is anymore an underdog fetish with the Browns. This team's good, man. They're real on wheels.
Lions' Resilience
00:21:34
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Dude, the AFC North is just an absolute bloodbath, like playing those four teams. Good God.
00:21:42
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The last one, obviously, we're gonna talk about the Lions. So when is the last time that we ever had a week where you could talk positively and about how high up the standings the Lions, Browns, and Texans were?
00:21:57
Speaker
I'd be shocked if there was ever a time where these three teams were as high up as they are. Yeah. That's a, that's a, that's a small Venn diagram right there, dude. Those three circles aligning, but yeah, man, the lines look legit, dude. Their defense still worries me, man. I mean, Heber Herbert had to freaking, you know, best game he's had.
00:22:14
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probably all season. Um, but they, you know, Jared Goff's the truth, dude, maybe the Rams, they got the Superbowls. You can't criticize it, but man, how much do you think they wish they had, uh, you know, a younger Jared Goff now instead of, instead of sticking with Matt Stafford? I tell you what, I have been one that has done nothing but give Jared Goff a ton of shit.
00:22:36
Speaker
I mean, it's tough to argue with how well he's playing right now. Like he's, he, and the best thing about him is his, he's learned from past mistakes. He doesn't force throws to create turnovers. Cause dude, that game yesterday, I just, I think that shows a lot about the lions as a team, as a whole. I think that's a game that
00:22:58
Speaker
a year ago, they probably lose honestly. Like that's not a game. The lines usually win. Like usually they find a way to lose that game. They got the ball. Dan Campbell has some brass balls. By the way, they went five of six on fourth downs yesterday. I love it. One of which was at a point where they could have just kicked the field goal, given the ball back to the chargers, but he's like, Nope, we're going for it. Like, dude, that takes some serious balls to go for that at that point in the game. And Dan Campbell,
00:23:26
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I know you said to me, Cole Ryan's, but man, it would be really tough for me to not give Dan Campbell coach of the year right now with what he's doing with the lions, the lions of all teams. Like, I don't know, man, this is just, it's a wild ride watching them play football.
00:23:43
Speaker
Yeah, that was a big win because the Chargers obviously you guys if you've been listening us at all this season You know how we feel about the Chargers coaching staff. That's still a super talented roster. I mean Herbert put up four touchdowns I think Keenan Allen had something like 170 yards receiving that is still a pretty stacked roster and Detroit went toe-to-toe with them and ended up getting the dub So yeah, I feel like they've kind of they haven't had a ton of national TV games this season so I feel like they're flying a little bit under the radar but I
00:24:10
Speaker
They could end up, the thing about them going into Philly, assuming Philly's gonna end up getting home field advantage in the NFC, you know they're gonna have no fear, dude. Dan Campbell's gonna have that team fired up, man. They're gonna have no fear. They're gonna be emptying out the playbook, going forward on fourth down, doing unconventional shit. And yeah, I think there are serious threats to Philly to end up upsetting them in the playoffs.
00:24:32
Speaker
Yeah, the way they play football can translate to any time of year, any type of weather. They hammer the ball like between Montgomery and Gibbs, they got a one, two punch at running back.
00:24:45
Speaker
Dude, it is just, I want to talk about something about Montgomery specifically. It is absolutely uncanny how many running backs the bears just give up on. Like, dude, back to Forte. I mean, it just seems like these running backs hit their prime and the bears are like, yeah, we'd rather not pay them. We'll just give them up for nothing. It's just, it's insane. David Montgomery is still a star. Like he's really good.
00:25:13
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I think he's had one of the best running back games all season. What was it back earlier in the year when he had something like 170 yards and three touchdowns, man? And what he had a 75 yard touchdown run yesterday.
00:25:23
Speaker
Yeah. Uh, I don't remember what game it was. It might've been that game, but the announcers were talking about all the guys, the bears have traded away in the last five years. Yikes. That is a list of lists. Roquan Smith being the top of that list. I still don't know what they were thinking dumping him. That, that was a bonehead move. That dude's unreal. I think he had something like the 21 tackles yesterday. 21 tackles yesterday. I mean, just the production dude, like,
00:25:50
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know. I don't, I didn't get that. I mean, dude, when you think bears, the first thing you think of is like linebackers, man. You know, like Dick Buck is freaking Mike Singletary, Brian Ehrlacher. Like that's just almost freaking sacrilege for the Bears to trade a stud linebacker like that.
00:26:07
Speaker
I didn't understand that when they did and I understand it even less now. Okay, we'll move on from those three teams.
NFC South's Playoff Worthiness
00:26:16
Speaker
Next note I have in here, NFC South should be banished from the NFL. I don't think that's an arguable point anymore. Saints are garbage, the Bucks are garbage, the Falcons are garbage, and the Panthers are the worst team in the NFL now.
00:26:32
Speaker
What a terrible division. The fact that they're going to get a home game is embarrassing. They got it. Yeah. I mean, when I started, when I started watching football as a kid, they, uh, uh, it was only 28 teams, man. The Panthers and Jaguars weren't around the original, uh, Browns, uh, or, you know, the Browns that we have now weren't around, you know, they ended up turning the Ravens and the Texans weren't there. So yeah, I'm down with it, man. Let's go 28 teams. Do you know, we've been talking about bringing NFL Europe back.
00:27:00
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the NFL's hell bent on making it international. Like whatever the crappiest division is, let's say just ship the rest of Europe. Make them play in Europe for the next season, dude. And that can be like their punishment.
00:27:10
Speaker
All four of those teams are garbage. None of them have any hope either is the craziest part. I gotta argue with saying they don't have any hope, man. I think if the Saints stick with Jamis for the rest of the season, they at least got something, dude. I love yesterday. They won. We got the full Jamis experience, dude. He came in in a quarter and a half and he threw two badass touchdown passes and
00:27:31
Speaker
Two interceptions, dude. Like we got, like I said, dude, Jamis is always going to give you something, man. He is going to make something happen for good or worse. It's never just going to be, because I feel like right now in the NFL, there's a lot of quarterbacks who are just like almost non-factors in the game, despite being starting quarterbacks.
00:27:47
Speaker
Um, Jamis is going to get in there. He's going to do something, dude. Somebody is making a big play, whether it's his team or the other team. So I just cracked up so much that, you know, I saw, I was watching red zone. I saw that he was in there a little bit, you know, pass. I think it was a little bit after halfway in the third quarter. I was like, all right, let's see what Jamis does. And I kind of, my attention is drifted somewhere else. I look at the end of the game. I think he had like 120 yards pass and two touchdowns, two picks. I was like, yep, same old Jamis.
00:28:10
Speaker
Mr. 3030 himself like he just he cannot avoid the costly turnover, but he is fun to watch Something I don't think anyone can say about Derek Carr
00:28:21
Speaker
If my life's on the line, I'd take him at QB over car any day. He absolutely fleeced the Saints on getting that big of a contract. Derek Carr is garbage. He's just a guy, dude. I would say he's actually below average now, but even at his peak, why are you showing out that for Derek Carr, man? He's just a guy.
00:28:44
Speaker
He's not good at all. Like there's just nothing he does that you're like, all right, somebody called him empty stats, Derek Carr yesterday. And that is exactly what it is. Like help throw for 300 yards. But like the game gets over and you're like, God damn, he had 300 yards.
00:28:59
Speaker
Yeah, I saw just scrolling NFL Twitter man. I saw Saints fan pretty impassioned was like dude At least Jamis looks like he wants to be there like, you know, their cars got this, you know Maybe call it, you know stoic whatever but I think the way the way it comes off for us watching at home is like he just doesn't really care about being there and his doesn't got passion do the thing about Jamis man, you know, he fucking cares dude, like he's going out there and
00:29:23
Speaker
He's going to try to make his teammates believe that they're going to get to get the win. Um, so yeah, dude, if I'm, if I'm the saints, I'm, I'm telling, you know, car, Hey, take this week to heal up and give Jamis one week, you know, and see what he does. They're on a buy this week and they got the Falcons a week after. So I don't think you're getting your wish.
00:29:40
Speaker
What a perfect time. Let him start against the Falcons. Okay. So assuming, you know, I'm not going to put you on the spot to, you know, renounce or extend your fanhood. One way or another, assuming that you're still diehard Falcons fan next Sunday, who would you rather see a quarterback for the Saints car or Winston? Oh, as far as for the Falcons winning. Yeah. Uh, Derek car by far.
00:30:02
Speaker
Yeah. Winston, there's always the potential to drop 30 on you, dude. That's sad though, too, because Winston could throw two picks sixes in a heartbeat. Like there's no high floor, low ceiling all the way, dude. Yeah. The range of possibilities are, you know, very, very wide with James Winston. Like I said, they could drop six points and he throws four picks or, you know, he could go for 400 yards and they score 38
Vikings' Unexpected Victories
00:30:25
Speaker
points. Whereas Derek Carr, you know, they're probably going to get somewhere between 16 and 22 points, dude. Yeah.
00:30:32
Speaker
Okay, moving on from most garbage division in football to Josh Dobbs. Dude, what this dude is doing right now is like,
00:30:42
Speaker
I watched a couple of plays of him yesterday and the, the saints defense is still good. Like don't let anyone tell you that that's not a good defense. That's still a good defense. There was a couple of times where he just made the entire team look like they weren't even there. The touchdown run was, was the one that I'm going to really focus on when he spun out of, uh, what should have been two sacks in the same play and then outruns the entire defense to the edge and scores a touchdown. Like.
00:31:12
Speaker
Dude, I don't know what else you can say about Josh Dobbs. He makes the Vikings look so much better because there's one thing, and this is not a rip on Kirk Cousins at all because Kirk Cousins balled out this year. I will not rip on Kirk Cousins about this year.
00:31:25
Speaker
Yeah, we're, we're Kirk cousins fans here on the goal. Josh Dobbs adds to this offense that Kirk cousins could never do. He can scramble outside the pocket and improvise. Like if the play's dead, it's not always dead with Dobbs in there as quarterback. I seriously think their ceiling is higher with Dobbs and then cousins. Maybe that's a hot take, but I think it is.
00:31:46
Speaker
I think with the state of their O-line, what we've seen while Kirk Cousins was there, I think you're 100% right. Because Kirk Cousins, dude, he was having a career year in spite of that offensive line, man. There was a lot of times, dude, Kirk Cousins dropping back, looking at a freaking picnic table full of defenders, dude, coming right at him. So yeah, I think Josh Dobbs definitely presents a better option for him. Dude, the crazy thing is we still haven't even seen him with Justin Jefferson, man. I know. The Vikings are the hottest team in the NFL right now. They've won five straight games. They were one and four, and now they're six and four.
00:32:16
Speaker
That is absolutely incredible. Yeah, one in four. Yeah, with free. And then, you know, Justin Jefferson is down. You see Kirk Cousins go down there. They're basically left for dead, man. And here they are. Like the Vikings are good. I didn't want to send it to you, man. I literally had it like pulled up to send it to you just for for football fandom sake, dude. But there was a video going around from in the locker room after that Falcons game. And dude, I would say just as somebody who is, you know, played football for a long time, been coaching football, just been around football my whole life.
00:32:46
Speaker
Dude, the vibes on that team are on point right now, man. Just hearing O'Connell talking to the team in the locker room, seeing how fired up they all are, just how together they seemed. Yeah, I would definitely keep an eye on the Vikings down the stretch in the NFC. They got something going there. Yeah, they're going to be tough to beat, but yeah, we had to give Josh Dobbs his flowers after the last two weeks.
00:33:08
Speaker
Grand, they're playing the shittiest division in football, but still, it still counts as wins. Still the NFL man. Yeah. It's tough to win no matter who you're playing. I figured the last thing we should touch on is the 49ers. Yeah. As we, as we all suspected, um, the overreaction was definitely way too much. Everybody back healthy. And what do you know? They're kicking ass on the road against AFC playoff teams.
00:33:32
Speaker
And I'd be a little worried if I was a Jags fan, honestly. I'd be a tad concerned. Like me and Seth talked about this a little bit yesterday. There's something wrong with that team. I don't know what it is, but whether it's their sum is less than whatever that expression is. It's like, you know, where sometimes the sum is greater than the parts. The sum is less than all the parts on this one, dude. Like they got a ton of talent and it's just not coming through on Sundays, man. Obviously we have zero idea what's going on in that building, but
00:34:02
Speaker
Yeah, they should be, I mean, they are six and three, but it's an underwhelming six and three and they've gotten smacked around pretty good. And anytime they've gone up against, you know, some of the heavyweights in the, in across the league. So yeah, I, I'm very worried about them, dude. We were picking a very, very, you know, we were picking Jacksonville to go something like 13 and four, 14 and three before the season, but that's looking like a long shot at this point.
00:34:24
Speaker
Yeah, they're not going to beat anyone. That's they're going to beat the teams they should be. And they're going to lose to the teams that they either are 50 50 on or they should lose to so.
00:34:36
Speaker
Yeah. Trevor Lawrence made me look like a genius. You know, last week I said he was the mid-season MVP and he goes out and I think he completed less than, I think he is either less than or was right at 50% of his passes. No touchdowns, two picks, man. I still stand by it, dude. If you, if, you know, I read a lot of pro football focus, I'm on there, like it's not Patreon, but the equivalent of their Patreon, their paid membership, they grade out all the games.
00:34:58
Speaker
he is still playing really really good I told Jordan yesterday as we were texting back and forth about it think like 2018 2019 Matt Ryan where maybe the stats didn't show but if you actually watch the games you knew that like he was the only thing keeping the Falcons for being a straight-up embarrassment yeah
00:35:16
Speaker
But yeah, it's not looking great in Jacksonville. And dude, with how much money they've spent on that team, I wouldn't be surprised, man, if we might see a change at head coach after this year if they end up fading bad down the stretch.
00:35:29
Speaker
Doug Peterson, man, got fired two years after winning the Super Bowl in Philly. And I said, when that happened, there was some more to that than meets the eye. And I think we're starting to learn why Doug Peterson got fired in Philly. Whatever it is, is concept or is offense.
00:35:48
Speaker
They have way too much talent to be playing this badly. I mean, like we said, yeah, they have three losses, but those three losses have looked way worse than they've looked better in the six or seven games they've won. If that makes sense. It's just, it's not good. And.
00:36:06
Speaker
Calvin Ridley is a quitter. That dude is a quitter of a football player. He's just saying he's a bitch dude. No, he is duty. The dude just quits. Like when they, when they're losing, he doesn't even try to make an effort. He just, he looks literally like he would rather be anywhere on earth than playing on that team. I looked at his stats for the season. Holy shit, man. Three for 20 this week.
00:36:36
Speaker
10 for 83 last week, that was a good game. Four for five against, oh wait, sorry, sorry. Two for 20 this week, I was looking at targets. Two for 20 this week, six for 83 last week, one for five the week before that, four for 30, seven for 122, two for 38, three for 40, two for 32, and eight for 101. This dude is not playing the way he should be playing. Yeah, that's crazy. Like, you know, that week one, he looked like he was gonna be an all-pro.
00:37:05
Speaker
and since then he's looked anything but an all-pro I just yeah I just don't think this dude has it in him to be the baller we all thought he was gonna be I just it's so weird to me too because he is a really good player when he wants to be weird um all right last thing race to number one well the Cardinals won so who's right back in the driver's seat the Panthers oh wait their pick goes to the Bears so Bears right back in driver's seat for the number one overall pick
00:37:35
Speaker
We didn't get to see Fields last week.
Giants' QB Dilemma
00:37:39
Speaker
Bajant number orange or Bajant orange wins the game for them against the Panthers. Dude, if Justin Fields doesn't play this week, you really have to start wondering if they're just sitting him just to keep his trade value high so he doesn't ruin anything. Yeah, it's possible. I mean, dude, at this point, the Panthers are not going to win more than
00:38:03
Speaker
one more game maybe, if that. They can't beat the Bears of all teams on Thursday night on a short week. Yeah, I got some serious question marks about them. The craziest thing though is, so let's say they do win a game. The Giants move up to the number one pick and there was something came out yesterday that said they are not opposed to taking a quarterback in the draft. So whether or not they get one or two,
00:38:30
Speaker
Danny dimes days are basically numbered at this point because I got a feeling they're either getting Drake may or they're getting Caleb Williams. One of those two guys is going to be the quarterback for the Giants next year, which from what we've seen out of that team this year, they need to make a quarterback change and it needs to be their first overall pick. So you're not a fan of freaking Tommy DeVito, man.
00:38:50
Speaker
Dude, I felt bad for that guy yesterday. I really did. That guy should not be playing in an NFL game. There's just no way. I saw a meme on Twitter and it was like the reason that Ryan Dayball doesn't binge the videos. He doesn't want these guys waiting for him after the game and had a picture of the Sopranos. Well, did you see his family in the stands? Yeah, bro. You got the wide guys, man.
00:39:21
Speaker
Yeah, it's a it's a lot of bad teams out there man I think the Cardinals with Kyler back, you know, he looked like he shook off the rust as the game went on I don't think I don't think they're gonna be worst. Yeah, I think
00:39:32
Speaker
The Giants are probably the biggest threat, dude. I think the Giants are straight up dog shit, man. The Panthers still seem to be playing with a little bit of spark. So maybe they could sneak a couple out, especially as the season goes on and some teams have less and less to play for. Yeah, I think if I was better right now, I say the Giants end up the worst record in the league. Are you still watching the game? Josh Allen goes for a handoff and literally just drops the wall. Oh, my gosh, dude. He literally just let the ball fall out of his hand.
00:40:00
Speaker
They look like their running back wasn't even really trying to get the ball, man. I wonder, they look like maybe some sort of miscommunication or something there. Not good, though. We're still tied up, right? 15-15. I've kind of been sucked in on the podcast here. Yes, 15-15, a minute to go in the third.
00:40:13
Speaker
OK. Here, let me real quick, man, before we move on to Uniwatch, because it's going to be brief, let me give you a quick playoff snapshot right now, dude. The season ended right now in the AFC. The Chiefs would be getting the bye, you know, shocker. We're not going to go through the games, but just how enticing are these first round matchups to you? So we would have the Ravens and the Texans in Baltimore. The very, very enticing. Yeah, that'd be a good game, dude. I think, you know, the Baltimore.
00:40:41
Speaker
They're seven and three. They've had a couple weeks where they look dominating, but then they also have times where they're totally average, so that'd be a fun game. Good place to see CJ Stroud get his, you know, that'd be a good place to, you know, bust your playoff cherry dude on the road against the Ravens, man. That'd be a tough one. Listen to this, dude. Now, you're shaking in your boots if you're the Jaguars. If the season ended right now, the Jaguars would be hosting the Cleveland Browns in Wild Card weekend.
00:41:03
Speaker
Best of luck to you. That's what I would say to the Jaguars. Dude, any of the teams that are going to end up in the wild card are better than the Jaguars. Let's just be clear. Go one through five. Which of those teams do you not think would beat the Jaguars? Steelers probably a little bit of a toss up, but if you know a gun to my head, I'm probably picking Pittsburgh to beat them to. Dude, Jacksonville is not in a good spot at all right now. Like, and that's if they even win the division.
00:41:29
Speaker
Yeah, true. The last one in the AFC would be the Dolphins and the Steelers in Miami. I think the Dolphins would beat the shit out of the Steelers, honestly. The Steelers have been in the NFC. The Steelers are just hanging around every week, but I think they said they've been out gained in yardage in four of their six wins. That's insane.
00:41:52
Speaker
They're pesky though, man. They got filmmakers, Dave, but yeah, you're right there. They are like, it's like, how the hell is this team? I mean, I can't remember. I think it was something they're like 15 and four going back to last season over their last 19 games. Like they're really, they're really playing some winning football despite it being less than impressive when you look at the stat sheet. All right. Over in the NFC, we would have Detroit and Minnesota in Detroit. I think that'd be a great home playoff game for Detroit, man. That's exactly the kind of matchup you want. Uh, cause I think they could, they could pretty much freaking run the Vikings off the field.
00:42:23
Speaker
Listen to this, dude. I mean, if it comes to pass like this, you already know this is going to be the last, the Sunday afternoon game of Wild Card weekend. This is Monday night, dude. They put this on Monday night. Yeah, they may just do it Monday night. Radiance Bonanza, dude. The Niners and the Cowboys in San Fran once again. Yeah. Could you imagine the hype around that, dude? I mean, if you're a Cowboys fan, that's got to put a lump in your throat just seeing that matchup. It seems like the Niners have just had their numbers so much over the last few years.
00:42:51
Speaker
Yeah, that would not be ideal for Dallas. I love it. I hope we get it, man. I mean, dude, the Niners and Cowboys, that's like... There's a few you can argue about, but that's definitely one of the all-time rivalries in NFL, man. That takes me back to my childhood. You know, Steve Young going up against Troy Aikman and shit.
00:43:09
Speaker
Oh, before we move on from Dallas, we have to say something about Dak cause we, we give him shit when he's bad. The last four games, this dude is playing like our other worldly football. So, um, yeah, Dallas is scary, man. They still got an offense and a good enough defense to get it done. So I wouldn't count them out yet.
00:43:28
Speaker
So we said the Niners and the Cowboys would be the, you know, the most hyped game ratings, TV ratings, Bonanza, you know, the executives priority pulling strings for the refs to make sure this happens wildcard weekend. This last one, dude, this may have been on the CW, man, for, for all I know, dude, the Saints against the Seahawks in New Orleans. I don't even know what they televised that one. Beast Quake, volume two. Hopefully, Marshawn Lynch comes back.
00:43:54
Speaker
I think Gino would freaking go in there, go to New Orleans and get the land, man. Yeah. Whoever comes out of the South is not winning a playoff game. There's just no way. All right. Let's hit a quick uni watch. Oh, I botched the music. Let's try that again. Take two.
00:44:30
Speaker
Alright, only two teams to discuss this week, so we'll start off by doing the beverage break. What are you drinking tonight, man? Well, as you can imagine, after a shitty weekend like that, went a little bit stronger tonight, went with some screwball eggnog tonight. So yeah, it's good, man. It's got a hint of peanut butter, obviously, with the peanut butter whiskey, but it still tastes like eggnog. So yeah, I'm a big fan of this.
00:44:58
Speaker
Nice, man. Yeah, I know we got a couple screwball aficionados that are hardcore listeners of the show. I'm drinking a Shiner Ruby Redbird. This is Shinerbok out of Texas. It's their light beer with a little bit of grapefruit juice mixed into the brew, so just a solid light beer. That's what I'll be sipping on.
00:45:13
Speaker
the rest of the way. So another slow week for the alternate uniforms. Uh, you know, we'll, we'll see, we'll keep kicking it around. We may end up replacing this with a different segment. If there's just not enough meat on the bone, uh, week after week to discuss as we get deeper in the season. But first off we had the bears for the second time this season rocking the all orange jerseys. They looked a little bit better under the nighttime lights, but it's still a thumbs down for me. How about you? Those are just disgusting, dude. The bears with orange helmets is, it just does not seem right at all to me.
00:45:41
Speaker
with the blue helmets dude I used to like it you know we talked about before I liked it back in the Erlacher Rex Grossman days when they did the orange jerseys but still kept the blue helmets. The orange helmets are just too much for me like yeah if I think with the navy helmet this would look sharp but the orange helmets just too much.
Thanksgiving NFL Uniforms
00:45:58
Speaker
And then last, this is a subtle one, but I kind of dig it, man. For Veterans Day, the Cowboys rocked the red stripe on one side of the helmet stripe, so they had a red, white, and blue. Cowboys, even though it's not my favorite jersey, their uniforms are really kind of hater-proof, right? They're pretty much perfect from a critical standpoint. And I think just the subtle tweak on that red star in there just looks classy as hell. Two thumbs up from me. Oh, 100%. It looks beautiful.
00:46:23
Speaker
Um, one thing I will say, so we've, I think we've seen all the alternates for this year. I think I read that somewhere that everybody's already busted theirs out, but this next week might not be as good either, but the following week is Thanksgiving weekend and
00:46:38
Speaker
Usually everybody busts out their Sunday best for Thanksgiving weekend, especially Thanksgiving day game. So I think we'll have a packed week. The following week, maybe this week we'll, we'll try a different segment this coming week. But yeah, Thanksgiving week, we are going to need to have a full uni watch that week.
00:46:56
Speaker
Definitely man, and we got black Friday football for the first time this year, too So if you're a listener if you got a got a suggestion for For another segment or something to take the place of uni watch let us know because yeah We're this one's probably running out of steam I think next week for instead of uni watch we should do like Thanksgiving sides or something like that like cuz
00:47:16
Speaker
Because it'll be, we'll drop this on Tuesday morning, two days before Thanksgiving, so people have something to listen to going into Thanksgiving. Anybody with a drive or anything, we got to do something for Thanksgiving next week. Yeah, we can talk about our Thanksgiving spreads and then, yeah, we could construct the perfect Thanksgiving meal. Absolutely. All right, let's get into picks.
00:47:47
Speaker
Yeah. All right, Jordan, have we do last week? All right, swaggy. Time to gloat for you. You didn't win this week, but, uh, I went nine and four this week. You went eight and five. Obviously we both have the bills tonight, so nothing's going to change this week. I went back and did all the math, made sure I did it correctly. You have won five weeks. I have won three weeks and we've tied two weeks. Nice dude. Okay. So it's anybody's game going down the stretch. Yep.
00:48:18
Speaker
All right, let's get into week 11, man. As we go further and further into the season, it gets depressing, man, when I hear like, how are we already on week 11? I feel like we did the little demo episode of this show two weeks ago, dude. It sucks, man. I know. Because I always do it in my notes on my phone. I typed in week 11, and I was like,
00:48:40
Speaker
And I was also thinking, holy shit, either Falcons only play seven more times this year, like we're in the last two weeks of college football, then you hit championship week. This I know it's crazy to say because it's everything's about to get good. But this time of year is depressing for me because it just makes me we're on the downhill slide of not having football and
00:49:00
Speaker
That never makes me happy. Once football's over, you hit that dog shit period of sports where it's like you're in just the slog of the NBA season. March Madness is still about six weeks away, and you're a couple months away from the NBA really heating back up.
00:49:13
Speaker
I think we're going to make one NBA comment just because I feel like we need to at least mention it. Why the fuck did the NBA do an in-season tournament and do it two weeks into the season? This should be what we're watching as NFL gets over to keep us kind of invested in sports. That's absolutely one of the dumbest things ever, is it not?
00:49:35
Speaker
Yeah, and you could maybe even tie it in with like the All-Star break, right? Have the championship kick off like that little break that they do for All-Star weekend. Yeah, make it that Thursday night when they do the All-Star break, that Thursday night do the championship game of the end season tournament. Like, it's so dumb.
NBA's In-Season Tournament Timing
00:49:55
Speaker
you, man. I wish that they had more than just money, because I feel like as fans, who really gives a shit? I think they should tie a first round draft pick to it, man. And obviously, you don't make it a lottery pick, but maybe make it whatever the 13th or 14th pick, whatever the top pick outside the lottery is, maybe make it for that every year. You know what I mean? That would be super valuable. That would be something worth playing. I think it'd be a lot more fun.
00:50:17
Speaker
for the fans because I mean yeah it's still interesting right like to see who's gonna win but there's really not that much skin in the game for fans watching this. I agree.
00:50:26
Speaker
Alright, let's get into our weekly level. I haven't even, I only know off the top of my head one game that's happening next week. So yeah, this should be fun to go through it. So we got a good one Thursday night, man. Really, really tough one to pick as I'm looking at it, dude. And it's going to be a badass game. Thursday Night Football, dude, the Cincinnati Bengals off that heartbreaking loss to the Texans traveling into Baltimore, also going off a bad beat against the Browns.
00:50:53
Speaker
before yesterday, I would have felt a whole lot better. I know the Ravens lost, but the bangles lost Trey. They lost the game, lost Trey Hendrickson. And it sounds like T Higgins might be out more than just the game yesterday. They definitely miss him when he's not there. I still think that they could be better off without him because they feed you more and more, but Jamar is obviously banged up too. So they can't exactly feed him the ball 12 times right now.
00:51:21
Speaker
I think the Ravens went on a short week, man. I think this is going to be a really tough game for the Bengals. If it was at Cincinnati, I would pick Cincinnati. I just feel like the road team is always at such a disadvantage on the short week. I think I'm going to go Ravens as well, man. I don't feel super confident about it. I think Joe Burrow is still the best football player on the field this game.
00:51:50
Speaker
But yeah, I think short week in Baltimore, I think the Ravens won a close one. But to me, this is definitely a coin toss game. If Trey Hendrickson was playing, I would feel a whole lot better about the Bengals. But dude, he is the heart and soul of that defense. And when he doesn't play, they do not look the same. So I do not feel good for the Bengals this week.
00:52:10
Speaker
Here's another tricky one, man. Steelers and Browns in Cleveland. This one's not tricky at all for me. I think the Browns are going to really show who the Steelers actually are this week. I'm Browns big this week. I mean, dude, what was that? Was that week two or week three on Monday Night Football when we saw the Steelers beat them? That was PJ Walker though, right?
00:52:29
Speaker
No, that was Deshaun Watson, dude. Deshaun Watson played that. Oh, me too. They won by four in Pittsburgh, yeah. Yeah, Steelers beat him. 26-22. TJ Watt had a FOMO return in the fourth quarter to take the lead. We're in Cleveland.
00:52:47
Speaker
I think the Steelers beat him, dude. I think the, I think the Steelers are going to, I don't have a whole lot of rabbit reason behind it. I just think the Steelers are going to win. This was the game. Nick Chubb got hurt too. Remember that like since Cleveland was extremely down after he got hurt. Like I didn't feel like they played very hard after he got hurt.
00:53:04
Speaker
I feel you, man. I mean, this is another one, dude. I'm not super confident in it, but I still have absolutely zero trust into Sean Watson, despite what we saw in the second half against Baltimore. And I feel like at least I know what I'm getting with the Steelers, man. Or I feel like the Browns could go out and completely just lay an egg on offense. I feel like the Steelers are at least going to give me a little bit of something on offense. First two games, all AFC North. And look how much of a struggle it was to pick these games. That division's a bloodbath.
00:53:34
Speaker
Yeah, definitely. I saw a really cool stat, man, to highlight two players, man. One current, one historic. So TJ Watt played his 96th game on Sunday. He passed up JJ Watt to be the second most sacks through 100 games, right? He hit 88 sacks.
00:53:54
Speaker
Uh, in his first hundred games, that's second of all time. So again, that's total 88 dude. Number one is Reggie white with 105. Think about that. Fucking 17 more sacks than those guys, dude. So TJ watt would have to get 17 sacks over the next four games to match Reggie white for most sex to a hundred games. How insane is that stat dude? Reggie white. I hate that. Um, he died so young because like a lot of the younger generation has no idea who Reggie white is. Like,
00:54:23
Speaker
When we were watching him as kids, you knew that if your team had to play, either the Eagles, the Packers, whoever he was on at the time, best of luck to you, man. Because that guy's unblockable. He was unblockable, dude. They would bring double and triple teams to him and they still couldn't block him. And this is when the NFL was not soft at all. Dude, these dudes were ripping each other's heads off and he was still getting through it.
00:54:49
Speaker
Well, and dude, that's the other thing I was thinking about those numbers, man. Think about what his like sacks per like dropbacks had to be. Cause dude, back then teams were pretty much 50 50 between running and passing, dude. Like most teams were throwing the ball, you know, in the low, in the low twenties, right? If a team was throwing the ball 30 times a game, it was the exception back in his Heyday.
00:55:09
Speaker
So yeah, dude salute to Reggie white man I just I saw that stat pop up man that and he's just so far heading to shoulders above anybody else who's you know come since Yeah, so pretty pretty dang impressive man So go out if you you know if you're if you're a youngster and listen to this go out just YouTube some Reggie white highlights and check out that dude See what a see what a pass rusher looks like from back in the day
00:55:31
Speaker
All right. Kyler Murray and the Cardinals heading into Houston to face the red hot CJ Stroud and the Texans. I think Kyler has a better showing than he had on Sunday, but I think the Texans are just, you know, they're on fire right now, man. I say they win. Yeah. I'm going Texans as well. I just, again, the Cardinals are not a good football team. They just played a worse football team this week.
00:55:55
Speaker
There's just not much around Kyler either dude like he's you know I thought he looked there there were some flashes of the the old Kyler we know and love but there's not a ton of weapons for him to even throw to you man like you saw on that the plate is set up that uh The kind of like that broke the back of the Falcons I think he ran like something like 60 yards on that play just to gain 10 to Get that first down for him on that last
Titans' Struggles
00:56:16
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drive. Yeah, he's a freak All right up next we have
00:56:23
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The Jaguars, we talked a lot about going up against my team, the Titans heading into Jacksonville. I think the Jaguars get right, dude. I gotta be honest, man. I'm not gonna say I'm hitting the panic button, dude. I feel like Will Levis may have been just a little shooting star, dude. It was an absolutely pitiful performance they put on in Tampa Bay yesterday. Just uninspired, no juice whatsoever.
00:56:48
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You know, he looked amazing against the Falcons that first week took the loss against the Steelers, but looked pretty tough You sit there and watch the game. You're like you could take a moral victory out of it. There was nothing good yesterday So I'm a little bit nervous. See how it goes down in Jacksonville
00:57:02
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I'm picking the jacks to win this one. Here's the one thing I'll give a little bit of a rebuttal for a will levis from yesterday. Dude, the Titans are not winning any games if they're throwing the ball 39 times. That is not a winning formula for the Titans. Derek Henry carried the ball 11 times at 24 yards. That's the bigger
00:57:19
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Yeah, it was the whole offense. It was not just Will Levis by any means. The whole offense looked uninspired though, but at the end of the day, you look at the quarterback to be the one to kind of, you know, pick everybody up by the bootstraps when you're in that kind of situation. The problem though, dude, the Titans offense is built on running the ball and play action. You can't really run play action when there's no threat of getting any yards running the ball. Their offensive line is just horrible, man. Like Brian Tannehill would still be the starting quarterback.
00:57:43
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Yeah, the Bucks D line is good, but the Titans O-line is just so bad. Like I said, Tannehill would probably still be the quarterback right now if their offensive line wasn't absolutely horrendous. I really hope that they don't bench Levis though, because dude, I feel like that would just absolutely kill any confidence he had left. I don't think they're benching him.
00:58:01
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They should. Yeah, the vibes out of Tennessee. I mean, it wasn't that, it wasn't like, I think he had one interception. It wasn't an absolutely horrible performance. It was just like a nothing performance. We were talking about Derek Carr earlier in the pod. It was Derek Carr-esque.
00:58:16
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The vibes at a, you know, local media and stuff here is they're going to roll with Levis the rest of the season. I think that's kind of like the number one priority for the rest of this year at this point is just see what we actually got with Will Levis. But it just it did not look great yesterday at all. No, I'm going jags as well.
00:58:35
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All right, so the Jags will get no, you know, for all the shit we talked about, and they'll be seven and three after 10 games head into the home stretch. All right. The Raiders and the Dolphins in Miami. I think, you know, Antonio Pierce, shout out to you, man. Awesome. You get off to a 2-0 start. I think they're getting boat raced on this one. I think we see Miami drop another 40, maybe 50 burger.
00:58:55
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I think the dolphins win. I'm definitely in agreement with you there, but dude, Antonio Pierce has them boys playing hard, like between Max Crosby and that middle linebacker that I had never heard of till last night. Bill Lane. Dude, those two play so, Spillane's got to be on cocaine though, right? Like when they were interviewing him, like he could barely like keep his tongue in his mouth. I mean, the signs are all there, but yeah.
00:59:22
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I just don't think they're gonna be able to slow down the Dolphins enough. Their defense was fine against the Jets because they have Zach Wilson, but yeah, not good. Yeah, Dolphins by quite a bit. This is just insulting. The Cowboys are 11-point favorites on the road, heading into Carolina to face the Panthers. Yeah, Cowboys rolled up. That's not enough points.
00:59:45
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It's 11. It's all double digits is always risky in NFL. But yeah, that's not enough. I think they cover that easy man. All right. The Panthers might not score in that game. Another double digit point spread and the Lions are 10 point favorites with the Bears coming into Detroit. I think, you know, Detroit kicks their ass. I think it's another blowout. Yeah, Lions.
01:00:07
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Chargers heading into Lambo Packers showed some signs of life against the Steelers yesterday, but I still think the Chargers got way too much talent I think the Chargers get the win. Yeah Chargers. I agree
01:00:20
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Remember when Lambo used to be a big deal anytime you go in there and get a victory? I feel like that's something that's definitely just falling apart. Even during the Aaron Rodgers years, man, they lost a lot of games at home. I feel like that's something that's definitely fallen apart over the last 10, 15 years for Green Bay. It's dead, yeah. The Lambo home field advantage is dead.
01:00:41
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All right. The Giants and the commanders in DC. I think commanders roll. I seriously don't think that the Giants win another game. If they keep the veto as their starting quarterback, they can't complete a forward pass. That team screwed.
01:00:54
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And the commanders look pretty good yesterday against Seahawks, too. Yeah, they're solid, dude. They've been they played pretty tough week in week out, man. They've had a lot of a lot of heartbreaking losses so far this season. Dude, Sam, how is leading the league in passing yards right now? How crazy is that? Sam freaking how has the most passing yards in the NFL? Yeah, it's insane. All right. The Bucks and the Niners in San Francisco. Niners role. Yeah.
01:01:21
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Your boy Baker's gonna get destroyed this week We really kind of got a shit slate of games day We got our we got our AFC North Battle Royale and then we got Monday Night Football that we're gonna talk to in a minute But yeah, it's going through this is not some great games wait you get to the Sunday night game and how that's even a Sunday night game bills and the Jets I Think the bills will still win. I still got faith. Yeah, I'll go bills as well. I
01:01:48
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Oh, so we're at six and a half minutes ago right here. Broncos are driving to take the lead. We'll see if they get a field board touchdown. What's your pick on this one, man? Do you think the bill still bills or bills or Broncos here? I'm going to say the bill somehow win this game just because they absolutely have to have this game, but I don't feel good about it. It's not looking good. What happened? What happens if Josh Allen throws a pick man on, you know, game winning drive?
01:02:17
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I don't think that would be a good look at all. No. All right. Seahawks and Rams in LA. I think Gino and the Seahawks get the seven and three. I agree. Seahawks are just a better team. Although the Rams did destroy them in week two, so. Yeah, true. But I don't think if Mount one, Matt Stafford's not back, right? Are we looking at possibly Carson Wentz start out quarterback? They said Stafford's playing this week. He is playing. Yeah. Yeah. I do too.
01:02:45
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Rams look good first couple weeks, man, but it's not been pretty for them. No. All right. This is an interesting game, man. I'm with you. I don't really know how this ended up on the Sunday night schedule. I guess they were just really high on Sean Payton coming back. But we got the Vikings heading into Denver to place the Broncos who have looked pretty dang tough, man, last few weeks.
01:03:08
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Yeah, but dude, I'm not bending against Josh Dobbs right now. Like I love the way Josh Dobbs is playing. Um, I'm going Vikings.
01:03:18
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I'm rooting for... Oh, Broncos score touchdown, dude. So the Bills are down by a touchdown five minutes ago. I'm rooting for Josh Dobbs also. Obviously, you know, I've adopted the Tennessee Vols as my college team living here in state, man. So I'm gonna root for him, but I think the Broncos got a couple weeks of film on him. Gonna be a primetime game. I think they come crashing back down to earth, and I think the Broncos get the win.
01:03:47
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and in the Vikings losing streak. So we got to disagree on a few of these men to keep it spicy. So I'll go Broncos. And probably the game of the year so far. Oh my God, why do I tease you this play? Oh my gosh. He dropped it like five times. What happened? That's two extra points that they missed now. Oh my God, he dropped the ball like three different times.
01:04:19
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But it looked like he had the snap. Let's see. No, he doesn't. Wait till you see this. Oh, yeah, he just. Well, no, he got it down, but then the kicker stuttered. The laces were in, dude. You can't kick it. It's Finkel. Yeah, true. Laces in. Man, that's going to come back to haunt them, dude. OK. Again, heavyweight fight. The top two seeds. Super Bowl rematch. Rumor swirl on Taylor Swift is going to be in the house. Eagles and the Chiefs in Kansas City.
01:04:50
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I just think that the Eagles are the better team. I just, I really do. I still do not like what I've seen out of the chiefs this year. I know they're seven and two. I get it. I do not like what I've seen out of them at all. I mean, you talked about it a little bit yesterday and there's zero chance Taylor Swift is in Kansas city this week. So Travis Kelsey is going to have a shit game. She's in Brazil for a tour. So that's not happening.
01:05:16
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She's Taylor Swift. She can make it happen. She's not coming, dude. She's playing Brazil Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. She's not going to the game. So give that up. Travis Kelsey's going to shoot the bet. The game's Monday night. You're telling me Taylor freaking Swift can't get on a private jet and make it from Brazil to Kansas City in one day. The vibes are not high. Plus, dude, it's one thing. She's in Brazil the following weekend, too. I doubt she's just bailing.
01:05:43
Speaker
Check it out, dude. You guys know I'm a big Taylor Swift fan. If it's the one thing that chick loves, it's some fucking PR, dude. Can you imagine? Her team has been telling her, yo, this is the biggest game of the regular season. I don't think she's missing it, man. We'll see. We'll make that a bonus pick, dude. If we end in a tie this week, I say she's going to be there. What do you say? No, she's not going to be there. OK. So can we agree, if we end in a dead tie for next week, that we'll go with Taylor Swift at the Chiefs for the tiebreaker? Sure. Why not?
01:06:15
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Dude, I don't know man. So you're picking Eagles? I'm going to Eagles.
01:06:21
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Yeah, I'm gonna go Eagles to you man. I was kind of leaning Chiefs dude. I actually yeah, I feel kind of bad Ben, but I think you actually influenced me with your pig dude I think Eagles went if it was if they rematched in the Super Bowl, I'm picking the Chiefs but regular season I think the Eagles have definitely looked better like you said and they got the revenge factor, right? Because they are the ones that lost in the Super Bowl. So yeah, I think Eagles win
01:06:45
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Alright, this is a bad slate of games though. This Sunday is awful. It's feast or famine, dude. We got three badass games and the rest of week 11. Probably, I'd have to go back and look, this is definitely the least excited I've been about a week of football, though, so far. Why are they not utilizing the flex option for Sunday night games right now? It just seems like they've given up the flex. There's no way that should be the Sunday night game this week.
01:07:12
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Yeah, why not flex one of those that Steelers Browns or yeah, why not flex Steelers Browns a Sunday night? That'd be an awesome game, dude. I just don't get it. Like, why are we watching Broncos and Vikings in a prime time game? There's no reason for that. Yeah, you can flex that one or, you know, the Chargers and Packers to do like, you know,
Million-Dollar Betting Scenario
01:07:30
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L.A. and Green Bay. That's two big, big fan bases anyways, man. But yeah, I don't know. All right. Let's get into a million dollar bet.
01:07:50
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All right, dude how we do last week you got to give up bet the money night favorite
01:07:55
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You need to give that up. Um, so I took the lions minus one and a half for a hundred K covered with ease Cowboys minus 15 and a half for a hundred K covered with ease. So for the season, I'm 11 and nine plus 125,000 Seth had the Colts minus two for 50,000
Live Football Commentary
01:08:14
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covered. And he has the bills minus seven and a half for a hundred K you are 11 and eight minus 50 K going into this game. So.
01:08:23
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Yeah, you're gonna need an absolute miracle right now So yeah, we need you need to see I don't see any way it happens dude, unless I'm just trying I get that on the bath I'm just trying to be like games, dude Jesus Christ bills Don't tell me I'm online so my I'm on holler dad out here in Tennessee, so I'm only like a 35 second delay behind Jordan Let me see what happens here
01:08:56
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Alright, setting up for the shotgun snap. Wait, which play did you just watch? Oh, was you talking about that play where Cook dropped it? Yeah, dropped it. Ball just bounces right back into his hands somehow. That ended up working out, man. I thought something happened after that, dude, because of the delay. Okay. You do your bet first, man. So I'm actually, we're tied on bets. I've just been swinging for the fences more, dude. I mean, I went for two $100,000 bets this week and hit them both.
01:09:27
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Just saying. Okay. You go first. You do your bet first,
Hosts' Betting Choices
01:09:31
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bet first. All right. I'm going Cowboys minus 11 on the road versus the Panthers for 100K. All right. I'm taking the commanders minus 10 for 50K over the Giants, dude. I was tempted to go a little bit higher, man, but I don't know, dude. It's NFC East. You never know, but the Red Skin, or excuse me, the commanders have been playing really tough, so I think they get the job done. All right.
01:09:57
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And then I'm going Browns minus three and a half for 50K. All right. I, I'll put my money where my mouth is, dude. I'm going to put 150K on the Eagles plus three against the Chiefs. Okay. Yellow dude.
01:10:17
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I mean, if we think they're going to win, why not take the points, dude? You said you thought the Eagles were going to win. Where's your money at, dude? Where's your imaginary money at, bro? I like throwing money on these high point spreads. It's fun to me. It's not at all. I'm terrified.
01:10:35
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Yeah, it's I mean because we've said before dude, it's still the NFL man It still is regardless to you like even the worst teams are still filled with fucking studs, man So yeah, you never know what good at any given Sunday. It's a cliche for a reason. Yep Alright, yeah, you
Favorite NFL Commentators
01:10:51
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ready to get some lister meal. Yeah, let's do it Alright John swallow our buddy J bone of the pod foundation from the coming down the aisle podcast says who are your favorite current commentators? I personally like Greg Olson and Kevin Burkhardt
01:11:04
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I mean, the best commentators are, uh, Monday night, Peyton and Eli, if we're being honest, the, the remaining cast is the greatest thing in football right now. Like I just, I do not know how the NFL is just not picking this up and running with it. They should have a Sunday game too. If you're asking me.
01:11:23
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I am partial to the Thursday night crew of Al Michaels and Kirk Herb Street. Al Michaels obviously he kind of took over for Madden as like the voice of football. Once Madden retired after the 2008 season. And it's kind of become a little bit of a Thursday night football tradition here this season that Brett's been staying up and watching Thursday night football with us each week. You know on Sundays a lot of times I'm flipping back and forth between the Titans game and red zone so it's hard to get locked in.
01:11:51
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but that thursday night game we're sitting down watching one game start to finish and he's been staying up and like you know he's he's six and he's kind of getting to the age where he's got the attention span and stuff to sit there and watch the whole game so it's just been a lot of fun with him and just listen to that crew you know curt car street obviously he's a guy much more associated with college football so
01:12:09
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I kind of appreciate hearing his takes on the NFL game. Um, and yeah, so I'll go out. Michael's and Kirk herb street for my favorite current team. I'll tell you who it's not. It's not Collins worth and Toriko. I hate listening to those two, dude. I think they're horrible together. Toriko. I mean, he's just fine. He's just fine. He's not a play by play analyst. It's just not what he is.
Browns' Potential Super Bowl Image
01:12:32
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Yeah and Collinsworth just wants to slurp whatever quarterback is playing dude like if you're a starting quarterback with any kind of ability dude like Collinsworth is just all over you man. Yeah last night he had some real struggles last night with Aiden O'Connell and Zach Wilson he didn't know what to do. Yeah they
01:12:53
Speaker
Yeah, that was that was a rough one, dude. Yeah. So once I thought Zach Wilson was finally going to freak in, you know, pay off all the all the you know, the goodwill of sitting his way over the past two years of podcasting about football. Yeah, incorrect. He did not.
01:13:10
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All right. Alex Eubank says, when the Brahmins win the Superbowl this season, will they be viewed as a heel or baby face team? They're an underdog team of the century battling against all odds, but they're captained by an alleged sex predator. What a conundrum. Not a legend, not a legend. A sex predator. Alex, don't know. I think they're going to be the heels, dude. I think it's going to be a mess if they
01:13:33
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I think it's going to be a real mess if they end up making it to the Super Bowl. I think that's the NFL's worst nightmare, just because, you know, all this stuff is going to get dug up. It's probably going to be new new chicks coming out of the woodwork, man, with accusations and shit like I think it's going to be a nightmare. If the Browns make it to the AFC Championship, they need to make sure that game is not close, because if it's close coming down the stretch, I would be sweating some, you know, you know, 50 50 calls going against them just to keep that that from happening. Just because this guy's a PR nightmare, man.
01:14:03
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It's not good. By the way, Josh Allen, go ahead, touchdown drive. Yeah. Well, let's see if they can get the extra point. Oh, yeah. Nothing is guaranteed. But yeah, Josh Allen ran it in, right? Yep. Nice. All right. I think they're going to be perceived as the heels, Steve. Despite the Cleveland underdog city getting there, I think they're going to be, I think the fans, the neutral fans, I think are going to be against the
Support for Cleveland
01:14:31
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Browns. What do you think?
01:14:34
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I've always loved the city of Cleveland. Everybody knows I'm a Cavs fan. So I would, I would definitely root for the Browns, even though they have not an alleged sexual predator, asexual predator as their quarterback, but the rest of the team, dude, I like everybody else. It's on that team. Miles Garrett is like one of the most likable players in the NFL. So there, I don't think it's going to happen. So I don't think we need to worry about it, but if it ended up like lions and Browns or something, yeah, I think the Browns would be the heels by about 95%.
01:15:05
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What if it's 49ers against the Browns and you got Brock Purdy, who's like, you know, Mr. America, dude, freaking, you know, the most like humble like cornbread guy there is up against the Sean Watson at quarterback should be great.
01:15:20
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Yeah. All right. We don't need to answer this one, man. David Brooks want to pour a little bit of salt in the wound. Jordan says, why does Arthur Smith suck so bad at utilizing his star players? I don't think that's him pouring salt in the wound. That's probably like a fancy question because.
01:15:36
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After the first quarter yesterday, it looked like Bijon was about to have the day of his life. And then for some reason, Arthur Smith's like smart brain just like took over and he was like, no, you don't give him the ball. You give Algier the ball and just run him straight up the center's ass and get two yards of carry rather than the 18 that Bijon can get you. It's just an idiot, dude. I told you, man, Arthur Smith is coaching like he's trying to unlock achievements on Madden, dude, like, you know, win this game without giving the ball to your best player.
01:16:03
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Alright, play this game on all pro, don't throw the ball down the field more than five yards, and then take Gijon out and only give him one carry every 20 minutes. Yeah, win a game without utilizing any first round draft picks.
01:16:17
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Can I hand the ball to a lineman? And also want to say congrats David Brooks on buying his house this week, man. That's always a stressful process. So congrats on closing, bro.
Giants' QB Draft Considerations
01:16:29
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Rob, if you need insurance, man, maybe hit up Jordan. Rob Virginia says,
01:16:34
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Do you think the Giants will draft Caleb Williams after giving Daniel Jones 160 million so recently yeah I don't think they would hesitate man if there's a QB that they think could help them out yeah like the because the thing is like yeah you're eating that money on Daniel Jones but that money's already spent and the rookie QB contract is gonna be relatively cheap so
01:16:53
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I think you just grin and bear it, especially in a media market like New York. I don't think they could, I don't think they could withstand the pressure of passing on a blue chip quarterback. If the, if the giants do end up with, you know, a top three draft pick, like it looks like they're going to get agreed. Yeah. They're drafting a quarterback if they get a top three pick.
Bears' Impact on Rookies
01:17:11
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All right. And Sam Rosenthal wants to know how will the bears ruin Caleb and Marvin Harrison Jr.
01:17:19
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I mean, it won't take much if we're being honest, somehow they'll turn Caleb Williams into a running quarterback instead of the, the cannon for an arm, the kid has. So, I mean, we thought Caleb Williams was crying last week after the Oregon game, like give him two weeks behind Chicago's offensive line. Yeah, it's, uh,
01:17:40
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Yeah, I kind of hope he doesn't go to the Bears man. It just seems like anytime the Bears have been good in my lifetime. It's just been blue collar like defense kicking ass with a running game and stuff. That's just that's not the place to go if you're trying to be any kind of explosive quarterback man. It's just it's kind of just built into the fabric of the franchise at this point.
01:18:00
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We got two additional questions. Came in last second. First off, again, Jaybo and John Swallow says, do you hate or like the brown hoodies for each team? I don't like them, man. I think they look kind of tough. It's definitely been like the sideline gear of choice for all the NFL teams down over the last couple of weeks. I kind of like the Carhartt look with the all brown hoodies for pretty much all the teams. Yeah, they're cool. OK, this is not me trying to come off like
01:18:30
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being an asshole.
Military Appreciation Weeks Critique
01:18:31
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I'm I just have just something weird to say. Why does the NFL have to have like a month or a week or whatever to celebrate the military like why like why do we have to like specify this is like military appreciation week because it's Veterans Week like
01:18:48
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dude shouldn't you be appreciating the military every day and this is me talking to someone that's in the military like i just think it's i don't know maybe it's just me i just think it's weird the same way i've always i always thought the the breast cancer awareness one thing was weird like and the fact that the nfo would like find players for wearing pink when it wasn't in october i don't know dude just the whole thing is weird to me
01:19:11
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I think the whole thing is just a ploy to sell more merch, dude, right? They're like, you know, they figure if we throw like, you know, if we say we're giving two cents to charity off this purchase, man, we can drop some camouflage or, you know, some camouflage color gear in November and we can drop a bunch of pink stuff for breast cancer in October and people are just going to fucking gobble it up, man.
01:19:32
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That's all it is, dude. I agree with you, man. I kind of see through it, dude. As a military member, I'm never like, hell yeah, man. The NFL salute me this week, dude. It's whatever, man. I think it's just a way to sell
Favorite Football Video Games
01:19:46
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merch. But I do like the look of the brown and green hoodies. Yeah, they're cool. All right, last question. This is a good one, dude. Sorry, buddy. James Maudsley says, what is your favorite video football game? I'll let you go first.
01:20:03
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Ooh, dude, I am partial to NFL 2k. I just thought when they, when they released that game, it was just such a great alternative to Madden. I loved that game, but any particular year, just the whole series, I just liked the whole series and I hate that it only had like a four year run. Was it four years or was it three years? It wasn't long.
01:20:26
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Yeah, it wasn't it wasn't long, man. I think maybe maybe five, dude. But yeah, I remember the first one on Dreamcast was awesome, dude. I remember like getting that was the whole reason I bought a Dreamcast was to play that first NFL game and it was crazy. So it lasted five years. You were right. It went from September 9th, 1999 to July 20th of 2004. So they made it to two K five.
01:20:48
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Um, yeah, they and dude they had some stuff that was really ahead of its time that hasn't been tried since so I remember that last game They had a first person view which we really haven't seen that been able to execute it effectively in football instead And the coolest thing was dude if you were playing like franchise mode at halftime They would have highlights from other games around the league, dude They still don't have that in mat and like it just
01:21:12
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It's a shame because obviously we know how legendary the NBA 2K series is. And to just think if visual concepts would have been able to keep the NFL series going through all the you know the rest of the consoles because dude this thing died off on PlayStation 2. That's what that's the generation of consoles we were on when NFL 2K got killed off by EA Sports.
01:21:31
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signed an exclusive deal with the NFL. So yeah, that's a great choice dude. NFL 2K on Dreamcast and NFL 2K 100 Dreamcast. That's some of my fondest football video gaming, video gaming moments dude. For me, my two favorite, y'all know I'm hardcore Madden head and NCAA football.
01:21:49
Speaker
NCAA football 2004 was my favorite. I still have an active franchise or dynasty on that. I just finished my another season winning the national championship with Vanderbilt. I picked them just for a challenge. I just think that was just a totally balanced, really, really fun game of football. And then Madden 2005, the one with Ray Lewis on the cover. Yeah.
01:22:07
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That was the first one that had the hit stick that was on PlayStation 2 just an excellent game And obviously the newer games have way more technology to them and different advanced features But I'm looking for just like a fun balanced game of football and I thought those two were it I'll give you a dark course pick man. I thought hard about seeing NFL blitz, dude I don't know if I had much more fun than playing NFL blitz on in 64. Yeah, that's one of the greatest games ever made So it wouldn't have got an argument for me
01:22:33
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Yeah, that's one that like you don't even gotta like football games You maybe don't even really gotta like video games to have a ton of fun playing that game But yeah great choice man, and you know feel free in the in the comments and stuff across social media Let us know what your favorite football video game is so Jordan you hit us with a legendary one last week, man I'm not gonna ask you to top it but hit us with some closing thoughts again for this week's episode dude Do we want to write it out man? We're into the well, it's over now. I
01:23:04
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Well, we'll see, dude, with the Broncos kicking
Broncos' Game-Winning Field Goal Attempt
01:23:06
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game. Who knows, man? So the Broncos just got a deep pass interference call. I'm going to give them the ball at about the 19 yard line with 29 seconds left and no time out. But are you really trusting the Broncos to make a field goal, dude? Oh, dude, that is such a weak call. Let's see here. Oh, God, dude.
01:23:29
Speaker
Those under thrown deep balls, man. Yeah, that's very weak, dude. That is such a garbage call. The thing is, man, if it was an under thrown pass, it wouldn't have even been close to being pass interference. Like the dude was not trying to he was not trying to like gain an advantage or the receiver at all. He was literally trying to just gather his momentum and and turn around and make a play on the ball. You know. Yeah, that's absolute. We got to ride this out now. Let's do it.
01:23:54
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So yeah, for those listening at home, obviously, this will be out late Monday night, early Tuesday morning. The bill has just committed a pass interference penalty, setting up the Broncos for a likely game winning field goal. We'll see if they botched this, man. 29 seconds left. A lot could still happen. All right, Russell Wilson takes the knee. Yeah, we're setting up for the field goal here. The weird thing is, though,
01:24:19
Speaker
Dude, if I was the, if I was the, um, bills, I would've let that run down a little bit further and made them make a choice on what to do next because they don't have the Broncos don't have any timeouts left. So you can almost rush them into kicking the field goal right away. Yeah. Make them, make them do the fire drill, man. Obviously, especially with the kicking game being as shaky as it's been so far tonight.
01:24:41
Speaker
Yeah, I'm with you, dude. Make them rush on the field, kick it under pressure, dude. Because what are your chances, really? Obviously, they call the time out to try to get the ball back with a little bit of time. But what are your chances, really, of driving down and getting away with 20 seconds left? I like my chances better of making them fuck this field well up. Or botch a snap or anything. Yeah, I don't really understand that time out.
01:25:11
Speaker
Cause it ain't like they have three left to like give them enough time to like throw a hail Mary, like, right? The clock's going to run out no matter what. I would take one more time out here. Cause then it takes out the possibility of them running another play. Cause if they run another play, then yeah, you're doing the fire drill play. And that is not any way you want to try to end a game. That is such a garbage call though, dude. There was no way that should have been called.
01:25:42
Speaker
Yeah, you just said this bullshit Refs gotta have their way in the game. What do you think the? What do you think this does for the the bills man? Do you think they're are you are you counting them out? Or are you just putting them in the risky pile? Where do you get the bills at going off this assuming they end up taking the L here?
01:26:07
Speaker
I have them in the not looking very good pile like on life support almost at this point. And they're really going to run another play. Told you to the Broncos will find a way to fuck this up, man. I hope they bought the snap right here. This is so dumb. There's no way I'll never root for champagne. No, this is so dumb.
01:26:36
Speaker
I seriously hope they try to do that play where they drop back and throw the ball up in the air and Russ falls over his own feet or something. Alright, here we go dude. This is incredibly stupid. The other thing, if you run the field goal on third down, if it is a bad snap you can always just throw it away.
01:27:01
Speaker
He missed it. Yes. Yes, dude. He fucking missed it, man. Oh, my God. Here we go. They're going to get the bills for leaping or something. Oh, my God. Are you kidding me? What was the penalty? I got my mic on the field.
Bills' Penalty & Broncos' Field Goal Drama
01:27:23
Speaker
How does that happen, dude?
01:27:32
Speaker
My god seriously, dude, what is the dude in the back doing you're supposed to be counting it. Oh My god, how does that happen in the NFL dude? Well now they deserve seriously How does that happen? I mean, that's true of coaching dude. Like how does that happen in the NFL? Oh Well, let's see if the Broncos can get it here what if he misses it again? Oh
01:28:02
Speaker
Jesus dude, they are in that one day bills deserve that bills earned every bit of that loss dude all those turnovers and then these still Still had a freaking gift wrap to you at the end with the miss field goal, man and 12 men on the field Unforgivable. All right, so my Super Bowl picks looking shakier than ever But you know fun way to end in week 10 NFL season. We'll hear you. We'll get you guys back next week. Thanks for listening Weezy, baby
01:29:18
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah