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Episode 49: Our LIVE 1 Year Anniversary Show - Part 2
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Join us for the second half of the LIVE show we did celebrating our 1 year anniversary! We were joined by some the AMAZING guests we've welcomed onto the show during our first year to share even more great stories!
GUEST LIST INCLUDES: (AND A BIG THANK YOU TO):
Bill Farmer, Jeff Barnes, Brian Collins, Terri Hardin, Jerry Rees, Donald Ballard, Bill Cotter, David Block, Mel McGowan, Philo Barnhart, and Joseph Yakovetic. As well as Didier Ghez, Dave Bossert, and Dave Alvarez for their kind messages.
DISCLAIMER: We are not an affiliate of the Walt Disney Company nor do we speak for the brand or the company. Any and all Disney-owned audio, characters, and likenesses are their property and theirs alone.
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Transcript
Welcome and Introduction
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Speaker
Welcome to Sharing the Magic, the podcast that takes you on a journey through the enchanting worlds of Disney. Each week, we're joined by a special guest, whether they're a magician creating moments of astonishment or a Disney expert sharing the secrets behind the magic of the happiest place on Earth. Together we'll uncover the stories, inspirations, and behind the scenes tales that bring these worlds to life. So, get ready to be spellbound and transported to a place where dreams come true.
Celebration Recap
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Hey everyone, welcome to this week's episode of the Sharing the Magic podcast. Last week, we invited you to listen in on part one of our one year live celebration that we held back on May 1st. Today, we're going to be jumping back into the second half of that conversation. And real quick, just cause I mentioned Lincoln, he's sitting right next to me, Jerry.
Personal Disney Stories
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I, again, I don't know if you remember, but when we talked, I gushed over how much brave little toaster meant to me growing up and how the the message kind of changed over time for me. And the other, ah but about two weeks ago, me and my son Lincoln sat down for the first time and watched it together.
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Yeah, it was like a whole new experience for me as well again. So I know you last time for it, but thank you again for very little toast because it was great. oh That's
Collaborations with Icons
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great. and i And it was it was so fun working with the Groundlings improv team ah to voice. And then shortly after that, the dream of getting to write and direct and cast Robin Williams in Back to Neverland, continuing to work with someone who was great at following a script but also great at improv comedy and just I love the the moments of finding extra sparkle as you're going through a story and just boy like all of that team on Toaster and then with Robin ah just really brought that playfulness into the room as we were shaping the story.
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The way Walker Cronkite played off of Robin Williams and vice versa was beautiful. And, you know, they became they became friends over that. I pitched the film to each one of them separately and they were curious about each other. And Robin totally respected Walter. He would tell me passionately how important Walter was to our history. And when they met, you could tell the reverence was there and they but they busted each other up. They'd be making each other laugh on the set when they were waiting for me to call action. i was so curious what they were talking about and then I went to record some extra lines with Robin in New York and he told me that they'd had dinner with the Cronkites and and they really had a friendship that lasted.
Florida Projects
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love it When we installed the film, like the very next thing, and I had, I wound up with seven shows in in that park, but they, you know, Back to Neverland was in the first group before. As soon as I finished that, an odd thing happened where I was assigned to stay in Florida and keep working on other projects. So I was developing Cranium Command and working on the stunt theater with Glenn Randall. So I brought my team to Florida to work with me because I had to stay there. and We had to find a workspace. So we went into the the animation studio tour space and we were in the ah storyboarding room. So when you would see back to Neverland and you come out and you look through in those early days when the building was empty otherwise and Walter would say, this is the story department.
Mentorship and Dream Pursuit
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It would be it was Darryl Rooney and Wise and Gary Crowsdale and Rebecca Reese and
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They were storyboarding the show creating command right in front of the public um in in in that fishbowl there and we occasionally would see I started to see this happen and I alerted the the team to it. We would see groups go by that window. And invariably, there'd be a couple of times a day where the group of people would move by and you'd notice something still in the window and you'd look up there and it would be a kid who just was plastered to the glass and couldn't turn away and the parents would come back and try to encourage them to continue on the tour. So one of us would volunteer and go out and meet them and talk to the kid and go, we we noticed you were interested in what's on your mind. And they would usually be had some dream of being an artist. and And so I would tell them, I used to be you looking through the window, and you can do this. And then i the that was the first thing. And then the second thing is I would talk to the parents and say, I'm serious. I'm not being patronizing. Your kid can do this, support them. And then I've had
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Over the years, a number of people mentioned that they that they got into the business from going to that whole park and also from seeing ah Robin and Walter explain the process and getting caught up in it. And so it's been it's been wonderful to see some of the the ripples coming back from that. Wonderful. Well said, my goodness. Jerry, did you work on that? There were so many beautiful, like little films that were in the park back in the day, like the, um, the lottery and these monsters out there with, uh, Martin Short. I do work on those as well.
Project Highlights and Lucas Interactions
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i For that park, I did ah Rock and Roller Coaster, Back to Neverland, Sounds Dangerous, Michael and Mickey, Tourist from Hell with Goldie Hahn and Rick Moranis, The Editing Story with George Lucas and Anthony Daniels, And then did a the last minute story and direction makeover of the Indiana Jones stunt spectacular before it opened. Lucas didn't open it on opening day and and tasked me with going and doing a makeover to the way it was presented before he would agree to open it. And so I went and did that. I posted something about that on LinkedIn, some behind the scenes stuff of us back doing that together.
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um But then Lucas came back and reviewed and went, OK, now now let's open it. So so i it bounced around to a lot of different things in that park. All right, we have a new guest here, but I want to make sure Anne Marie has a question. So let's jump to her real quick and then because I'm really excited about our
Jeffrey Barnes Tribute
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next guest. So Anne Marie, go ahead and ask your questions. Mr. Barnhart, I love your shirt. wolf and i was just carry In fact, my middle son has that same shirt. And I'm just curious ah if you have any unsupervised art that you'd like to talk talk about. and Any art you did when you were unsupervised that maybe never got aired or anything like that? or
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Well, sometimes we would have these great caricature shows at the studio that people with them. There's this blow off steam by doing funny drawings of each other, you know, cartoon caricatures. And the other was a some of it was rather naughty. But we had a big show in the studio a year and everyone had put them up. And I don't know if I ever did one or not, but um there were plenty of me.
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We were always, Leon Justin and I were always being confused for each other because we looked like we could have been twins. And so I think it was John Musker did a drawing of ah what looked like us from the back. And he says, ah it's either Leon or Philo, take your pick. John is brilliant. john John did some, did everybody. yeah In California, to you know, if there were, let's say there were 200 caricatures in the show, John would have 125 of them that were done by him. yeah yeah And I mean, he was just that prolific. He was very prolific. Did you see him do the breakdown of his new short that I'm hip short, where he does a talk and he goes through and shows you all the caricatures he's hidden in the in the film? Yeah. Yeah. And it was a great honor to have John Busker do your, do your caricature. it You know, it was kind of check that box kind of thing. Mm hmm.
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All right. Here we go. Jeffrey Barnes. The best is here. I just don't even know where to start, so I'm just going to come out and say. The doctor is in the house, Barry. Dr. Disneyland. Dr. Disney is in the house. There we go. Jeffrey Barnes, tell us all about it. How you doing, my friend? I'm doing well. Happy anniversary. Happy May 1st. Happy May Day. And I see a lot of ah familiar ah faces and friends and ah the Terry Hardins of the world who I had breakfast with um a little less than two weeks ago, breakfast and dinner. And that's right. Great to be with you guys tonight.
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We super appreciate you being back. So Jeff's voice is probably very familiar because very far back, right after Bill's episode on episode three, Jeff joined us for episode four. He was one of our first guests. And Jeff, you are actually, we've been trying to like remember all the different things that happened. Jeff is the first guest to return to the podcast to record a second episode, which has not yet released, but it will be coming out in a couple of weeks. So we are- The first sequel. the first sequel and he was so dedicated and he was so great because he was actually in the car driving home from like disneyland and he's like i'm gonna still do it and he was in the car and it was great he was not driving i made sure to point that out in the he had somebody driving him and he was here with us and he's here again thank you so much jeff we appreciate And, and if you're counting, I miss this one as well. So I know we're. we're and And I'll say this with Jeff, like every time he comes on, it's always like, Oh, can you, Oh, we always go through this rabbit trail where I'm like, that's a whole other podcast.
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Can you please come back on? Can we do a triad? Can we do this like part one, two, three? And we always go to a ah place where it's like, OK, we got to do this again. And and and we do and we do, which is so I think it's great. And I think it's a reflection of ah the quality of the host and the great curiosity and the willingness to ask um engaging and entertaining questions and You know, I love Walt and I love the parks. And for me, it's really about how we can take that love and then leverage it in both our professional and personal lives. Well said. So, Jeff, I wanted to congratulate you on your debut of your docu-series on the History Channel
Disney Story Evolution
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of how Disney built America. It was great. Loved your segment.
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Thank you. that was um It was kind of a really surreal week because we had the ah Disney fan club ah breakfast slash dinner, which is where I saw Terry. And then a week later, we had the How Disney Built America series come out. And it's being well received, which I think is great. A lot of ah varying and interesting contributors to that. And I think the other thing that I find fascinating and you follow any of the social media stuff, you probably come across this yourself.
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like people are um a little tweaked over how they handled the Mickey origin story, because it's not the classic, you know, Walt's on the train coming back from New York and pulls out the pad of paper and sketches the story and shows it to Lily. There's a there's a piece of that, but then they take it a little further and, you know, really have Roy a part of it and of a part of it. And people are like, well, which is it? And, but you know, my answer to that is, well, you know, there's a park bench in Disneyland that claims to be the bench that Walt was sitting on.
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But then there's another bench at Griffith Park next to the merry-go-round that claims to be the bench. And if you go up to San Francisco in the Disney Family Museum, guess what they have? The bench. So which one is it? And you know the answer is that these stories evolve and they become legendary and they become mythical and you know Walt Disney himself quoting Mark Twain said never let facts get in the way of a good story and you know that story you know Walt told it in a rather successful and succinct fashion and um you know it's it's not either or it's probably both and.
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Did everybody get to see the items that were put up for auction from Mark Davis' estate? did Was everybody aware that that happened very, very recently? ah Heritage House was good. Oh yeah, I heard about it. It was unbelievable. I mean, Mark kept everything. I mean, a staggering, I think they said there were 1,800 items that were auctioned off.
Mark Davis' Collection
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And you know it was like every year at wed, you'd get the little pin that would say, you know, Mark or Jerry or or whatever on it. He kept all of them. He had bushels of those pins. He didn't throw out anything. He had an Abe Lincoln hand.
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had He had a piece of auto mania, the car. He must have had several storage lockers because the volume of stuff was staggering, really staggering. Amazing. Yeah, I believe they actually have more that they didn't put at all in that but last auction. Well, they sure had a lot. It was unbelievable. I love hearing about the the memorabilia that some of us might not ever get the opportunity to enjoy or see that you guys probably have from your your careers, right? that you haveve That you've held onto that means something to you. Does anybody have something that's it's like just so near and dear to your heart? You're like, this is my prized possession when it comes to either what your work was or Disney memorabilia or anything like that. Like, do you hold on to stuff or is it,
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You just kind of create and it might go here or there. I see Terry nodding her head. Yes, she's got something yeah we ho hold on to stuff. Yeah. So I have a scrapbook that I just got my dad passed last year and I had to I'm executive of the estate and I pulled out a scrapbook. And when I flipped to my 16th birthday, there were my Disney tickets. The names of all my friends, my dad took me to Disneyland, me and my friends, for a very special Sweet 16 birthday. And it had everyone had signed the scrapbook and it had little stubs and and wrappers from things back in that time. And that to me is
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ah that I just couldn't believe it was there. I didn't even remember having documented it. And I think that's always a bit of a joy. My mother also worked as an Imagineer and I found a clipping of her when she went on her tour of Imagineering and there she was standing with her group ah before I was an Imagineer. So yeah, we we hang on we we hang on to everything. So when you say there was a lot from Mark and Alice Davis, I think all of us can say, yeah, yeah, we've been there and we're still sort of there. So ah my family owns the original art of animation book with Walt's signature in it. That's lovely. It's a big one for me. Yeah, I have I have.
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have a copy of Art of Animation. And when I met Mark one time, he was kind enough to sign up for me, draw a little picture of Tinkerbell on there for me. And and that's definitely a prize possession. Something kind of similar to that when I was a young and my parents ah had gone to take the trip up to Orlando and they visited the Walk to the World preview center before the park was opening, you could go in there and and I guess see, you know, photos and articles and things like that. And I think there was maybe even a scale model. But of course, being Disney, they couldn't have an attraction without a gift shop. So there was a book that they brought back, which was like a picture book. And and I remember when I was a little kid, you know, my brother and I were captivated by this book because it had images of
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of these people that were called Imagineers, and and they were, you know, behind the scenes pictures ah of, I think the other two, one of them, like, hand painting the Wicked Witch from ah Snow White Under Black Light, or a picture of an elephant in the back of a pickup truck going to the Jungle Cruise, and That was the first thing I remember that really kind of, I guess, captured my interest in these people that were called Imagineers.
Memorabilia Memories
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Never, never even imagining someday down the road, you know, that, that would be me. But after I did become hit hard by WDI, John Hench was in big town one time and he signed that book for me, um which I still have. And that's definitely a ah project session.
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though. Interesting. He was an amazing man. Oh my god. I've got the pass with my name written in pencil ah from when I was 16 years old and my dad drove me to the Burbank studio and Ed Hanson was allowing me to come in to interview and show my portfolio and meet Eric. ah So this was back in like 70, 73, 74. It was pre-cal arts. And um so I went in and visited and I treasured, saved those passes that I would get at the front gate. On the back, they had ah they had a map of the studio. And in the first one, when my dad and I were going to walk to Ed Hanson's office, they drew ah the guard drew a little a line on the map of where to walk and a little dot on Ed Hanson's office.
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And so I looked through some of the the scraps that my parents had saved from those days and and found the early one. And so, yeah, that's definitely a ah treasured item. and And gosh, getting to meet Eric and then, you know, mentoring and all the stuff that happened and then CalArts happening later and everything, it all started with just my dad driving me down to to meet. Jerry, I had a similar experience coming out to California for the first time. Eric had come to my art school in Chicago. that you know If you ever get out, you know give the studio a call, get in touch with Don Duckwall, which we thought was a joke. We thought it's like could some inside joke. ah It was on the check. that I know.
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But i I remember coming out and it was one of those Burbank days. This would have been like 73. Yeah. And come into one of those Burbank days that was like 100 degrees in Burbank. And I came into the studio, you know, when Eric met me. And it's the temperature seemed to drop degrees when I walked into the studio, mostly because of all the shady trees. But I literally was looking to see if there was a glass bubble over the studio lot that was rolling the temperature inside the studio.
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but ah Yes, the magic magical dome. yeah Yeah, I really thought it was so hot and now it's comfortable. and Looking around. yeah for For me, I have a letter from the studio, Disneyland and Disney World, all saying thanks. but you know We're not interested in hiring you, but if you happen to be in and the area, please drop by. And then the fourth letter happily was, thanks for meeting you, and when can you start? So, that was my collection of stationery.
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yeah
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Sorry, we actually have a... A viewer question you said? Yeah. Yeah. okay ahead of you right Just come in real quick. um So all of you, all of our Imagineers, cast members, animators that are here tonight with us, do you guys get together often with like fellow cast members to and you just sit there and reflect?
Imagineer Camaraderie
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When engineering the alumni lunch, but every two months or so out in Burbank, and that's a ah great way to catch up on people you haven't seen for a while or, you know, sometimes people like Paul Osterhau dropped in about two months ago. and I haven't seen Paul probably in six years or so, you know, you keep in touch on
00:21:22
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Facebook and stuff but if they're in town it's a great way to to get together and sometimes you worked in a silo and you don't know people from another project and you just end up sitting next to them at a table and all of a sudden I didn't know you worked on that so for me I enjoy meeting people sometimes again sometimes for the first time. I worked exclusively in Orlando and and I do keep in touch with, with you folks, you know, and yeah, we definitely, you know, try to get together. And, you know, the funny thing is, is that whether it's someone I've met before, or even like, as I've traveled and running former Imagineers and in new jobs, now MK Hailey and, you know, others that I never,
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had met, but certainly you knew of each other. It's kind of like, you know, being in the mafia, you're in the family, you know? it Yeah, I like that. You know, you can start a conversation like you've known these people like forever. And it's so much fun. It's really kind of a i a cool fraternity. And I don't think one that any of us take for granted, be honest. Right. Yeah. I was at the Retro Magic event in in Florida last year, and um I'd been to a couple of them. And it was just great running into each other and seeing Bob Gurren, Tony Baxter, and on and on, and and Paul Ostrad. And it was interesting, the people that ran the event said, they they mentioned on the the last night, they said, we've kind of been remarkable. We've been watching this, and as each Imagineer and animator, et cetera, goes up and presents, it's like,
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All their other peers are there in the audience listening to them. That's like all of you are enjoying each other's presentations. And we did. It's like, we didn't want to miss anything. And we would all sit there for each other's presentations and just loved it. And and they and they noticed they went, you guys really hang together. And it was yeah fun to to feel that family thing going on. And as a podcast, I will say some of the best conversations we've had or ones where, and you know, talk about when you hang out with each other and you're like, Oh yeah, I was just hanging out with so-and-so. And and we, yeah and and no everybody's always respectful. Nobody ever says anything.
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you know Well, the person, no, it's never like that, but it's always, it's it's always just, Hey, I was just hanging out with this person or that person. And we had a great time and it's just lovely and wonderful to know them. And gosh, is it just a a good conversation that we've all had with a lot of you for that reason itself? That's why I think this is a great, kind of great question to ask is like, well, what is it like when you all hang out? Because we don't get to see that stuff. and And when you come on like our podcast and you you tell these stories, they're just wonderful because we get to, you know, they're always respectful. They're always great. And, you know, a lot of a lot of times these aren't these aren't the kind of conversations you hear on other Disney podcasts. You know, these are these are personal stories and and as wonderful as they are there, they shape our lives. These are the stories we want
Interconnected Narratives
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to we want to hear. And there's one. It's just been good.
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It's been a good year. I'll say that. good year I've loved all of our episodes because we usually like talk to somebody and during the episode, they'll bring up somebody else and then somehow Barry's able to get that person on a later episode. and Oh, ah you know, we had we like Jeff was on and we were talking to Terry and then like, oh, yeah, we had breakfast together. And then, Terry, you were on talking about working, you know, with with Raleigh Crump. And then we had his his son Chris on a little bit later and we were. It's so cool how we do get these interconnected stories from listening to all of you. It's wonderful. ah Here's something that is really going to blow you away. Philo and I have known each other since we were 17 years old. Well, oh we have done the Rocky Horror Picture Show together. We built all the outfits and did theater with. for two years. In fact, when the question was asked, had you ever drawn certain things? I remember that beautiful program cover you did of Frankenfurter when we were doing the program together. We worked at Hanna-Barbera together. He managed to get me my first voice and puppet gig. And then we would just go back and forth and support each other in a multitude of
Artistic Friendships
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ways. And
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We've been, you know, these two little bear cubs that just keep bumbling and bumping and going away and then coming back. 47 years, kiddo. Yeah, yeah, we did. yeah We built ah Darth Vader, Chewbacca, Jawa, a rebel fighter and stood in front of the Chinese theater and got five bucks in at five bucks a person to take pictures in front during Star Wars and it off about five pounds every time we did it. Yeah, yeah, we we just kept You know, we we're these creative people that and been it might be now that we have a little bit of a space between us, but Philo, I i illustrated a book and um the author is back back in the Midwest and Philo came down to see us then and it was a really lovely reunion. and then
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Bill Farmer, you did a comedy show in which I really enjoyed sitting there and watching Bill Farmer's comedy. What was that like? we we I got i got know it was kind of want to tell you the best thing about it was that it wasn't dirty. Yeah, of course not. bit was You know, because you were at that place and a lot of times when you have comedians at night, they go to that side. And and I was really grateful that your stuff was like funny without, you know, cheating. I always feel that that's cheating. I had two more drinks. It would have changed. But and I know I disagree with you, Bill, because your wife was in the audience and you know.
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i not sticky But it was a good show. yeah Yeah. There's videos of Bill doing comedy back in the day. he Bill, you were you correct me if I'm wrong. You start out in Dallas being a. yeah out In 1982, doing stand up comedy. Yeah. And I did that until I came out to California in 86. Yeah, it was still doing yeah all up and down the East Coast and they would call from Disney and said, well, we need you tomorrow. And I said, well, I'm I'm in Seattle right now. Can we do it next week? And I said, well, if you can't be available, we might have to get someone else. And I said, I'll quit. And.
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You're the best move I ever did. Yeah. Yeah. And the rest is history. And you. Yeah, I love that. I wish I I wish there was more video bill of your comedy because stand up comedy. The timing I you know, you I think we probably all know this as far as like acting, you know, the the comedians can act. Comedians can act because there's there's a timing thing. and Dramatic. Actors have a hard time doing comedy, but and there's a there's a flip to that where it's like anyone that can do comedy does a really good of being dramatic, you know, i don't yeah, that was the best training ground I ever had because you get instant feedback from the
Clean Comedy Significance
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audience. You learn what they like you say learn how to say a line, which in the booth, you kind of got a figure when they just hand you a script and you're supposed to to life. Yeah, yeah, that training came in really handy.
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Yeah, improvisation to bill helped with it helped with it taking classes and bouncing off of others and using your, your wit during an improvisational or stand up type comedy where they give you a situation and stuff that was really good practice as well for performing so I'm terribly grateful for all ah for all of that as well. And then I think it was your son's first gig. So that we are talking way back. yeah We're talking like in the last, what was it? Just before the pandemic, I think.
00:29:33
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Oh, my gosh. Yeah. So it was very sad. It was it was you mean you you tend to, you know, I mean, if Jerry Seinfeld can get up and do comedy after his big show, you can, you know, I mean, come on. It's not a problem. Once a comedian, always a comedian in one way or another. You to kind of learn it, but you get rusty. And ah so it's kind of. Yeah. Every still is still every once in a while. Yeah. You got to get up and have a little fun. that I need to go my photographer that I waiting for is here. So thanks so much for inviting me. And one one quick thing, one of the things I enjoyed about your podcast was you had good questions to ask. And you had done your research, because I've done others where people just say, so tell us about yourself. And as everybody said, you tell the same story over and over. When somebody asks you a question, and you have to actually stop and think about it.
00:30:27
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you know i said oh the guy's done his research that makes it for me more engaging that you're talking to people who have some interest in what you're doing and not people that are just trying to fill an hour so just wanted to leave that thought with you appreciate it but i mean it's very difficult not to have good questions for a guy that you know designed submarines and was a criminal mastermind as a younger person so we appreciate you being on the king of the l lapd right there well so funny about No, I was saying, you know, it's ah you know your your career takes so many
Storytelling Focus
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things. i didn't I started as a nuclear submarine designer and now I drive around to the l LAPD and in between I had all those years at Disney. So I'm just trying to figure out, you know, my life is like throwing spaghetti at the wall and there's the roadmap to my career. Quite a jump, I would say. It's so fun.
00:31:18
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and take care all thank you but you're close up ah care thanks black So what I was gonna say is, you know, ah jeff Jeff brought up a good good point earlier and um when I'm looking for guests to come on here, it's not because you work for Disney. Yeah, that's one of the things is the main thing is that you all have a story to tell. a lot of A lot of times, you don't get to tell the story. And um I feel like you know there's always someone behind you that has a story to tell. You know you may be the lead animator in something, but there's four or five people behind you that also have done something in the movie themselves. And I just feel that um one of the big things is is that looking at it as, OK,
00:32:09
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We're all, everybody's in the Disney fabric, but where where do they, where are they attached into the fabric? Are they animators? Are they imagineers? You're still under the umbrella. It's where you, where you fit in. And that's what we try to do here on this podcast because, you know, say we have Jerry on. Jerry worked on the Brave Little Toaster. Okay. Jerry didn't do it by himself. Who else was on there with him? And why then we hunt them down and we find them and then we interview them. And then it's a great conversation. Everybody loves it. And there's i always say it's, you know, Jerry was there. Oh, OK. Well, no, just kidding. We don't do that. But um But the thing is that your stories are remarkable and it's and it's great to hear about your time in Disney, your time in working working with Imagineers or working on a movie or something like that. and it's and And it's great because everyone's story, you know, like Jeff says, story shapes life. And that's basically what you guys do. And yeah I am so appreciative to hear your
Defining Disney in One Word
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stories.
00:33:21
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I know the listeners are and I want to ask one question here and when everyone needs to, everyone needs to answer. So if you're your guest here tonight, everyone needs to answer. What is your one word to describe Walt Disney? I love it. I love that question. Oh my goodness. So I'll start with you. Genius. but Okay. All right, Terry. Walt Disney, hmm, one word, open. Bill. Brilliant. All right. Bill. Explorer. All right. hi Jerry. Caring. All right. Brian. Innovator. All right. Word.
00:34:13
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You can duplicate. There's nothing wrong with that. You can steal. We just say it in a different language. We wouldn't know what it meant. You're a Vader. How about that? All right. Jeff? Resilient. That's interesting. It's just, it always goes back to one man and it's just the one man who bet on himself and gave the world one of the greatest things that they can do. You know, whether they go to a park, whether they sit and watch a movie, whether they listen to music.
00:34:49
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It's there, it's it's what we call it sharing the magic. sharing that's all he That's all he did. That's all you guys do and constantly do. Regardless if you're retired or not, your legacy lives on for a reason. And if people just looked at how Walt said, you know what, we're gonna do it. And you know, How many parks does he have? How many parks are there around the world?
00:35:21
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how many how many hundreds of movies are there? And it's just, I want to personally thank you all as well as the podcast here for all your hard work, all your brilliance, because it just blows my mind when you guys come on here and say, well, yeah, this is what we did. This is why we did it. Me being a simpleton, being like, wow, this is way cool. I mean, Jeff, how many times do we just at the end of the podcast, Matt, you can say, that too, are we just blown away? And then, of course, we have to say, oh, we have to have you back on again. So which we do have to have, you know, none of us would would be here if it wasn't for the fans like you. absolutely And yeah ah again, you know, something else I don't think any of us ever take for granted. So, you know, we appreciate you. I think as much. share Yeah. Yeah.
00:36:20
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So I was revisiting some of the older episodes from before I joined on with you guys. And um in Terry's episode, there was actually a very specific question that, you know, set off a light bulb in my head. So I wanted to ask all of you, if I were a genie, right and right now you each had three wishes, what would they be? Should we just do one? One wish. Let's do one wish. Let's do one wish. Let's do one wish. I remember that one from Terry. Terry got us good with that one. Yeah. Okay. Sorry. No, Tina, I think that was great. That's my, you know.
00:37:01
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i'm I'm grateful when I'm comfortable enough that I relax, that I'm able to have the question come through me and go to someone that I've worked with and I've admired, but ask the question. And that was Michael Jackson, the question I asked Michael Jackson when we were working on Captain EO. And I'll never forget. Oh, my God, I love that. I missed your interview. I'm so sorry that I but Captain EO is. Oh, my gosh, I'm sorry. Kicking out, but yeah I love. Yes, if you reach out, I'm very I'm a very fortunate person yeah that has more than one Wikipedia page, but more than that, I have a son who took time and wrote down everything I have done since I was a child, pretty much.
00:37:49
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And if you want that document, just reach out to me and I'll send it to you. and Yes, ma'am. Chew it up all you want. But yes, there was a lot of, there's a lot of stuff that I, that, yeah, I'm more than, I don't even believe it, honestly, that I did what it says
Empathy and Imagination
00:38:04
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I did. But, um, so yeah. What would be your wish though? What was the wish? Oh, my wish, wow. um Okay, I'll give you the good wish, because the bad wish I can't bear here, and I have a very strong bad wish. So I will stick with the good wish, but the good wish is to, as a retired person, travel the world and help others to do as I have done, and to help give them a leg up, because that's what brings me the most joy
00:38:37
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is having someone tell me, I can't, I can't. And I turn to them and I say, I can. So that's what I would like to do. But before I go quiet, I would love to hear what your superpowers are. Everyone's a superhero. So what's your superpower? I'll kick it off by telling you that I can ignite wet gunpowder. which means that if you are stuck and you don't know how to move forward in your chosen profession or your desire, I'm the one who can light that. And then you go on and sometimes I don't ever see you again, but just hear about how well you you became a firework and
00:39:20
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o I have so many fireworks that are up in the air now, and I'm so grateful. And I don't remember what I said to help them get there, but I'm glad that I was an instrument to help them get there. Terry, we we got to talk, Terry. ah Aren't you sad? you Very nice to meet you. Very nice to meet you. I'll say that very sweet.
00:39:44
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Anyone else have want to share? ah You know, I know we're kind of wrapping up. Anyone else have that that one wish that's like just burning or that maybe that one superpower that that Terry's talking about? well I can bring some peace to the world. I want to do that especially know and do it with my art. Awesome. I would ask you as a genie to unlock empathy yeah un lot around the world. I think for people to feel, I think empathy is, um I've been doing studies about imagination itself. and empathy, the ability for us to imagine what it's like to be in other people's shoes is one of the most important like aspects of imagination. And also, I wish we could spread empathy. Jerry, I knew I loved you.
00:40:30
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Bill, what were you going to say? I was just going to say that I think, ah well, there's different, you know, what category of wish, uh, my selfish wish would be that I could do everything all over again with what I know now. i appreciate That would be a great one. Uh, also just knowing everybody that your work has touched in some way. I love hearing those stories about how These simple cartoons and movies can affect people in such a profound way. I never get tired of hearing those stories. And it just blows me away on how much fun I have, but how much a lot of people gain from what we do. I mean, it's I never take it lightly. And ah because, you know, you talk to kids in hospitals and stuff like that, you find out the power of Disney. And I never want to forget that. Well said.
00:41:26
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Joseph, do you have a ah you have a ah wish? and I'm pretty content, to be quite honest. I'm kind of on the same road with Terry. I've had an amazing life and certainly nothing I planned. that And I've had great opportunities to be with some incredible people. And constantly, you know it it hasn't stopped. And that's, I think, the the joy. but And I think that, I like to think that my superpower is bringing joy to people. Yeah, I like it. And his wish is for a decent pumpkin to carve.
00:42:14
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Jeff, what about you? Do you have a ah wish for us? Yeah, so it's rather altruistic, but for anybody in the world who has an idea, some sort of crazy thought, some sort of dream, and they find themselves sitting on their park bench or were stuck on that park bench because they're too afraid to fail, they're too afraid to get up and risk taking action. I would just love to see people start changing, maybe not the world, but at least their world by ah being less afraid, taking action and seeing what's going to work and what's not. I think too many of us are just sleepwalking through life and staying stuck on our proverbial park benches.
Personal Wishes and Gratitude
00:42:59
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Absolutely. Yeah. Brian.
00:43:03
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Before I ah get to my wish, I would kind of, I want to kind of extend back to the conversation back, you know, getting together and everyone, everything, you know, we'll talk about all that. I don't know if any of y'all are here Orlando, but if you're not, or even if you are. um Okay, cool. I would say, you know, I hope, you know, if you take it back here, there's a way that we can expect that we're about to go out with any of you and have a beer. And I'm sure we would just like laugh hard. Well, I was going to say, feet work but we would laugh a lot and have fun. Because, again, you know, a lot of you, your names precede you. I was only an Imagineer for a future year.
00:43:53
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This isn't my main wish, but but you know I guess if I could have had the good fortune to have stuck around longer than than I did, I mean, you know the short time I was there was just freaking amazing and gave me a lifelong worth of experiences and without just stories. But as far as my wish, I'm just going to go straight for the unlimited money and lots of chocolate. you know I just want you know giving give me lots of money and profit and I'm good but I just feel very lucky it was to to kind of be in this little fraternity and you know kind of have hopefully done the thing and now you know that I'm like to you know to start teaching the next generation it's you know it's so cool
00:44:44
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you know, it's so cool. And hopefully teach them right, go out there and make amazing magic, you know, better than any of us ever did. All right, David, a final wish of the night. That it's 6 30 and it's time to close up. Closing time. me good zoie Do we have a wish, David? No, I think it's all been said by the other people here. I'm, you know, I, I share many of their thoughts and I'm good. Okay. yeah That's good to be able to say I'm good. Yeah. I'm enjoying what's going on. That's, you can't beat that. So if you don't have the wish and you're like, I'm good, that means you're living it. So that's awesome.
00:45:34
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Just build the villain park and we'll all be happy. All right. So with that, we're gonna go ahead and wrap up this episode. um We do have a couple um greetings that were sent in. ah We'll go ahead and put that on the podcast portion of them. um Matt, who are they from? ah So we're going to hear from Dave Bosser, Didier Ghez, and we have a special video from Dave Alvarez, or I guess Kermit the Frog, because if you see the video, don't watch that. I did enjoy it. no he did I did a goofy puppet. I have a puppet. He did Kermit the Frog. It was weird. It was okay. It was just fine. They're a good group together, you know. It was so funny. weird.
00:46:26
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Weird is the best. All the tree is weird. Yes. but I mean, I don't care. Whatever. I don't care. And he and Dave was a recent episode as well, right? yeah Dave's has not released yet. It will be coming up in the near future. And you'll have to find out if I'm on that one or not. So, they a all right. they So again, I want to thank you all for, for jumping on with us tonight and help helping us celebrate our year celebration, our anniversary here.
Closing Acknowledgments
00:47:02
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So Terry, Philo, Bill, Jerry, Brian and David and also Mel and Bill, Cotter and Donald and Jeff who left already. So we want to give a big shout out to all you guys for coming on. Thank you for being who you are, being authentic, doing the work you're doing. And um from the bottom of my heart, I'm just happy to know you guys, happy to see what you guys have done. You guys have enriched us and educated us to the brim and you guys are welcome on any time you want.
00:47:42
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Thank you so much. Appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you for having us. Thank you. Yeah, thank you very much. Thank you for being here. Thank you. We appreciate it so much. Congratulations. Y'all get some rest. Get some rest now. Y'all too. Have a great one. Get some rest. Which also a big shout out to Brian Sparhawk. You may have just noticed his name in the black box in the bottom. He is definitely a big part of the podcast. yes He does not have his voice on because he is the man behind the curtain doing all the producing for us right now, making sure that the graphics are going up and everybody's in. And he was getting weird echo by recording with us. So he he graciously said, I will step out to do that for us. So thank you, Brian.
00:48:26
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ah sand we were right And we also want to give a shout out to Brian Summer, who is not on here tonight. He's the one who does the beginning of our podcast. I love Brian's intro voice. Thank you to all of our guests or who have been on for over the past year. If you were on tonight, you couldn't make it. If you couldn't send in a message, we appreciate all of you for doing this with us. It really made the last year go by pretty fast, because again, I can't believe that it's there. and that that was a wonderful night Barry thank you and you know what I want to thank you for putting this together right you started the podcast you reached out to us to to begin everything I know you're good I know what you're gonna say because I could see your face it's all of us it's you guys Barry you are the godfather you are the one that started this that had the dream that got us all together that when people had to
00:49:18
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You know, if a co-host had to leave and you get new co-hosts and you're building this family and you're the one that goes out and gets all these amazing guests for us to interview. And for like personally, I just get to fanboy. Right. I'm literally just it's like a one on one conversation with these like pretty awesome people that I would never have gotten the opportunity to speak to without you doing whatever magic you do behind the scenes because every For those of you listening, you have no idea we get messages from Barry's like, I just got this person for this day. And I got this person for this day. We're like, okay, Barry, I don't know how you're doing it. Jeff said it earlier. Maybe he's going out and hunting them down and finding them. But he does. and magic And we have some great people already lined up. I think you said we're going into October already. so yeah
00:50:06
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Yeah, and anary and well, thank you. um You know, like I always say, and I know, you know, I'm going to say it's, it's a team effort here, but the thing is that what we, what we produce is um authentic so people are able to hear and Bill Cotter you know gave us the the biggest endorsement that we could have by saying you know we give good questions we know who our guest this is coming in you know we don't shadow box we we sit there and we go toe to toe with them and say okay
00:50:43
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You know, we want to make sure you're, you're engaged enough to be tuned in for the whole episode. You're, you're, you're not going to get the fluff. You know, I, yes, I do ask the, I, I, I asked the, um, the question I ask every time, you know, how you got your start and dizzy and thing, you know, place to start every time. barry we are We always, and we always, we always like to line up the tee ball. to let him hit it and then as soon as they hit it we move the tee and then we bring in Doc Gooden and he's pitching a Roger Clemens and I always just thought you wanted to know I didn't know you were doing the ropey dope to him like hey look over here well one of the thing is is because there's a bunch of kids kids in a candy store look at look at how you all are talking right now you're like I just I love all these people thiss true i it's true true
00:51:30
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Um, but I'm just having a good time listening to you guys. Yeah. Can you just leave this out as you always do? Every episode you yeah end on a positive note. Let's do it. So I want to thank you all for tuning in into another fantastic episode and our special episode of sharing the magic. And you can find us all over social media at sharing the magic pod. Please follow like share, you know, posts on there. That'd be wonderful too. And, um, also look for us wherever you find your Disney podcast and please follow us there as well. And until next time, keep sharing the magic.
00:52:11
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Sounds like a plan. Bye, everyone. i Happy anniversary, everyone. Yeah. Hi, everyone. It's animation artist, filmmaker, and author, Dave Bossert. And I just wanted to wish you all a happy anniversary. Congratulations on completing one year of Sharing the Magic podcast. It's a fantastic podcast, and I was glad to have been part of it. And I want to wish you all the best on your future episodes. ah So here's to you guys. Cheers.
00:52:44
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Hello, this is Disney historian Didier Ghese, author of the book series, They Draw As They Please, The Hidden Art of Disney, The Origins of Walt Disney's True Life Adventures, and also co-author with Ted Thomas and J.B. Kaufman of the upcoming Walt Disney and El Grupo in Latin America. I would love to Congratulate ah the whole crew of Sharing the Magic for its one-year anniversary. I love your podcast and I hope you carry on doing it for years and years to come.
00:53:21
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Oh, hi-ho, Bernie Fangfrog here. Listen, Dave Alvarez couldn't be here today, but I know that he says hello. And, you know, congratulations, people. Thank you for sharing the magic. You know, literally sharing the magic. And thank you for having us on your show. It was a great, great pleasure to be here. You know, thank you for our frog. Yeah.
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