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Clone Watch - Episode 28

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As Clone Watch circles back to catch up on episodes we missed from Season 2 of Star Wars: The Clone Wars, we dive into young Boba Fett’s dangerous quest for revenge against Mace Windu. We break down the arc’s darker themes, Boba’s struggle with his father’s legacy, and the first real steps toward becoming one of the galaxy’s most feared bounty hunters.

00:00 Introduction
03:44 Death Trap
28:49 R2 Come Home
53:57 Lethal Trackdown

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Introduction to Casual Nerdity Podcast

00:00:10
Speaker
Casual Nerdity is a podcast celebrating and discussing the pop culture that we love. Movies, TVs, comics, books, games, you name it. Our aim is to talk about the good, what worked, and yeah, sometimes what didn't.
00:00:22
Speaker
All with an eye towards its building up, not tearing down. Thanks for joining us.
00:00:30
Speaker
Welcome back to the Casual Nerdity Podcast, everybody. How you doing? I'm Daryl.
00:00:36
Speaker
And I'm Lauren. How are you two doing, my fine friends? Lovely. Doing well. Awesome. Awesome. it's It's been a pretty easy week here, too. So things settled down from last week. So that's a good thing.

Clone Wars Segment Return

00:00:56
Speaker
But, you know, we we are back for Clone Watch, and we may have let a few episodes kind of slip through the cracks. Yeah. oh ah Yeah, i I don't know what made me realize that. I would i'd remember what made me realize it when we were doing the last a Mandalorian arc with Maul.
00:01:22
Speaker
I was like, wait a second. I know this isn't the introduction of Corky, but we didn't talk about Corky before. And I went back and looked and I found that we... We would have known that because Betsy has some words about Corky.
00:01:40
Speaker
Well, and we and we talked about it in that that episode. yeah But I went back and looked, and yeah, we we totally skipped like seven episodes. Oh no! can't do that.
00:01:52
Speaker
We can't do that. So before we get into the last episodes...

Review of Missed Clone Wars Episodes

00:01:57
Speaker
We are going to correct that mistake and circle back to finish out Season 2 of The Clone Wars with Death Trap, Season 2, Episode 20, R2 Come Home, Season 2, Episode 21, and Lethal Trackdown, Season 2, Episode 22. Now, these episodes take place right after Season 2, Episode 14, The Duchess of Mandalore, which we covered
00:02:26
Speaker
All the way back in Clone Watch Episode 10. Wow. This is Clone Watch Episode 28. Yep. yep So, consider this... clo You can kind of consider this Clone Watch Episode 10.1 instead of 28.
00:02:44
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Clone Watch Classic. Yes. It's Clone Watch Legends. Yes.

In-depth on 'Death Trap' Episode

00:02:53
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Incredible. We're even going to be bring back some of the old memes.
00:02:57
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Yes. So we've got young Boba Fett stepping out of his father's shadow. We've got bounty hunters causing absolute chaos. We've got Anakin once again proving that he should maybe not be left unsupervised emotionally. And kind of a dark ending for this arc in the series. Oh, yeah. So...
00:03:18
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These are episodes that we missed the first time around, but honestly, they turned out to be kind of a fascinating little bridge between classic bounty hunter stories and the larger emotional fallout of the Clone Wars era.
00:03:31
Speaker
Yes. With a little bit of hindsight and some additional things that we recently, Laura and I recently did a rewatch of them as well. And some additional. note there's an little Some new additional insights.
00:03:46
Speaker
Yes. Well then. I say we get right to it then. How about you? Alrighty then. Let's dive on in. So first up is Death Trap Season 2 Episode 20. A young bounty hunter wages war against the Jedi Knights.
00:04:03
Speaker
Now, we don't often mention the little fortune cookies at the beginning of the episodes. yeah But this one is especially pertinent to the story. Who my father was matters less than my memory of him.
00:04:17
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Exciting. and it it's kind of a profound... kind of statement there. it is. it Honestly, it kind of is fitting for the saga as a whole, a you know, anyways, as well as also being one of those boards and cookies that does actually can, can resonate with a lot of people outside of, outside of just the story of laser swords and, and spaceship bites.
00:04:47
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Yeah. b Between the story of space wizards with laser swords created for children. Yes. TM copyright Patrick Willems.
00:04:59
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So a clone youth beggrade brigade is going aboard the Venator Endurance, which is where Anakin and Mace Windu are currently stationed.
00:05:10
Speaker
Yes. And one of the clone kids, Lucky, is bullied by some of the others, but another one sticks up for him.
00:05:21
Speaker
did thats to all

Exploration of 'R2 Come Home' and 'Lethal Trackdown'

00:05:24
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I'm kind of going to put a pin in that for something that comes back later that doesn't really apply to that scene, but it's kind of an interesting you know interesting dichotomy of the clone clones. I think I brought up when we were watching a These are kids, but they're not necessarily normal kids.
00:05:49
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No. No, they these are these are kids who are being flash grown and trained. we Age accelerated.
00:06:01
Speaker
We talk about the co clones being child soldiers, and these are literally child soldiers. Yes, very much so.
00:06:14
Speaker
Again, the the general consensus from the fandom, it's never been really decided on what age the clone U-Frigate is, but it's somewhere between three years old to five is is sort the idea where they are due to the accelerated growth.
00:06:37
Speaker
Right. I mean, they they so said that it... They're supposed to be like 10 years old to fit in where our secret special guest character is supposed to be.
00:06:50
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but They're there're supposed to be 10 physically. yeah her yeah you know tip they're They're supposed to be the equivalent to 10 because Attack of the co Clones says that it takes 10 years to grow a clone to adulthood with the accelerated aging.
00:07:07
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And we can we can infer from that, since Boba Fett is an unaltered clone of Jango that he wanted as part of his payment, that if the kids are about the same age as Boba Fett, because, spoiler alert, just like all of the adult clones were played by Tamora Morrison, all of the kid co clones were played by Daniel Logan, as well as Boba.
00:07:37
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yes And so if they're quote unquote 10 and we figure and we, we do the, the hated math, sorry, Nick. i' say that's Then if they age at roughly twice the speed, if they are approximately 10 in terms of physicality and everything, then they would be five.
00:08:05
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and I've heard a lot of discussion. There's been lot of discussion around that. There's also the fact that the accelerated

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00:08:12
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aging probably doesn't wear off instantly. It probably wears off more gradually over time. it doesn't wear off.
00:08:19
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It doesn't wear off at all? It doesn't wear off at all. Oh, i thought that I thought that whenever they became adults, they would like start aging normally at that point. Nope. ah we we will so We will see evidence of that come Rebels when we start watching Rebels. I see.
00:08:36
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Now, that does like the aging does seeing effects, but the x there are some abnormalities into their body structure, and that's because of how they're trained.
00:08:49
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here But we'll get into that. We'll get there. Don't worry. But either way, there is there has been much discussion about the nature of where the timey-wimey shenanigans going on there.
00:09:05
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Wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey. Wrong franchise. Mm-hmm. um But I did find it interesting that even that young, the clones had started to adopt nicknames. True. they it it all would they kind of And they have unique hairstyles already.
00:09:26
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Yeah. It had been kind of implied, at least to me, at first, that it was the Jedi that were giving them those names. Yeah.
00:09:39
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based upon traits that they had. But as we, as Clone Wars has gone along, we've seen that yeah they've started adopting their own names because like Fives is given his name on screen as a mature clone.
00:09:55
Speaker
Yes. Well, now we've got kid clones that are assigning each other nicknames and assigning themselves nicknames. And it goes back to what Yoda said in the quote-unquote first actual premiered episode of clo Clone Wars with Yoda saying that all the clones have a unique identity in the Force.
00:10:19
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that That they are unique entities. They are unique individuals. And they are actively seeking out that ah ability to stand out.
00:10:32
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Yep, and it it makes it all the ickier that they are just being manufactured to be disposable soldiers. Oh, dar I mentioned it when we were seeing this. like This is very much a weird school field trip for them, considering that they've been all clones are thrown on Kamino, and this is their first experience with the greater galaxy is to tour a warship.
00:11:02
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Yep. Because that's what they're being made for. And that leads into my next note here that Mace and Anakin, on this field trip, introduce themselves to the cadets, but they immediately get called to the bridge for new information being sent from Obi-Wan. And then Lucky gets a nice, sinister look on his face.
00:11:26
Speaker
pretty Pretty scary. And then, you know, Anakin and Mace have a little bit of banter as they leave. You seem more disappointed than our cadets.
00:11:40
Speaker
It's our job to instruct and inspire. You just wanted to show off. Hey, when I show off, it is instructive and inspiring. For you, Mabel.
00:11:50
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Mabel.
00:11:53
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Yeah, Anakin going, our job is to instruct and inspire is a really shows some growth since ah him not wanting Ahsoka back at the start of the series. Yeah, and it he kind of does want to show off, too, because he's not going to be responsible for these kids like he was Ahsoka.
00:12:13
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I suppose this is true. he's He's just going say, like look look at how cool I am. Look at how cool all of the toys you get to play with are. Now, go blow up some Separatists.
00:12:28
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Buy war bonds. Yeah. remember Remember, every bond is a blaster in your best guy's hand. you know Of course.
00:12:42
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As I paraphrase Captain America, the first Avenger. yeah it it does It does very much feel, despite them not needing to sell the conflict, this could easily, you could easily see someone so when recording this whole episode as a propaganda piece.
00:13:04
Speaker
Oh, yeah. Would you like to know more?
00:13:09
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I was just watching part of that the other night.
00:13:13
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So the cadets then get some target practice with one of the ship's cannons and two or three of them go and they completely miss. They're basically doing glorified skeet shooting.
00:13:28
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And, but lucky hits the target with a single shot. Yes, yes. And in response, the clone in charge of the drones sends out an even more difficult formation, which ah Lucky also takes out.
00:13:45
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And afterwards, he seems to be much more accepted by the group after their initial hazing of him. Yep, because he can past cause he can blow stuff up really good. ah It's almost like he has...
00:14:01
Speaker
years of experience under his belt. What? That's crazy talk. Yeah, that'd be wild. He's just really lucky, that's all. Yep, bid Lucky, as they are a heading through the ship to another destination, Lucky breaks off from the group and makes a transmission, at which point we learn he's Boba Fett. What?
00:14:29
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Boba Fett?
00:14:35
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So, Boba, was trying to think of some of the yeah some of the robot chicken Boba Fett related one-liners and just was drawing a blank. ah We gotta do a watch at that sometime.
00:14:51
Speaker
Yeah, it's fun. have it ah that might be good That might be a good Clone Watch episode. Maybe. So Boba plants a device inside Mace's cabin with a laser trip wire and Mace almost sets it off.
00:15:07
Speaker
And, but Anakin calls him to the bridge. So he hands the stuff he was going to drop off to a clone trooper and is's like, here, you know, put this in my cabin for me. The clone trooper enters and trips the trip wire and gets blowed up real good.
00:15:23
Speaker
The bluey. Yes, they're put onto high alert, and whenever Boba learns that Mace isn't dead, he gets in touch with his contact.
00:15:34
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And he knows he does note that he does specifically want Mace Windu dead, but unfortunately, the backup plan after the initial explosives fail is, in fact, to take out the entire ship's engines.
00:15:48
Speaker
After which, Boba sneaks off and goes to do that very ah mission. Yep, he's going to take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure. And and as he goes... This actually does this whole like engine core blow-up plan is used in an extra game mode in Star Wars Battlefront two the most recent one. And they even recreate the same layout of of the engine core.
00:16:19
Speaker
Nice. as Speaking of the layout of the engine core, the control panel here, it gives off very Episode 4 vibes. Like, this is this this is something that you'd see in the first movie, you know?
00:16:32
Speaker
oh yeah. but It's fitting because it is a similar design philosophy going forward. And this is something that you sort of see more of as the series progresses, as the technology changes. It gets more, you know, original trilogy feeling. Mm-hmm.
00:16:50
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it It goes more from the the sleek and pristine to the industrial style yeah of the original trilogy. And that's a neat evolution. Yes, very much so.
00:17:02
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and there was a It is very much baked into design philosophy. Yeah, there there was a quote that I remember seeing in a behind the scenes reel um for i don't remember if it was episode two or episode three ah at San Diego Con where George Lucas is talking to the the production designers and he's talking about the Republic ships and how so far they haven't looked much like Imperial ships. He's like, but you can start to wedgie them up a little bit.
00:17:43
Speaker
Foreshadowing is a literary device. Yeah. I think that was one of the three is the three had the most production behind the scenes that we've all seen. It was available.
00:17:56
Speaker
So yeah, ultimately, a clone trooper arrives just as Boba was going to sabotage the terminal. After telling the kid that they're on lockdown, he just hands Boba a gun.
00:18:08
Speaker
you just well yeah you just hands it over to him. It's like, okay. Well, yeah, because he's a fellow clone. And and he's already training for this.
00:18:21
Speaker
And he does say hes the safety's on. He tells them to be careful of that. Honestly, that's better gun safety than most actual gun safeties that I've seen in actual people trade with.
00:18:35
Speaker
Oh my. And then Boba then turns around and uses that gun to stun the clone trooper and then start blasting away at the engine room, setting off an explosion.
00:18:48
Speaker
And so the endurance is going to go down. I will say that first he does try to try to bludgeon the guy and it makes sense that well yeah he's a child he may be skilled with bludgeoning yeah that what that that was funny moment he he he reaches up and you'll wax him in the back of the head with the the blaster but between being short and a child it just kind of like you knocks on his helmet and he's like hey Cut that out. and it's a It's a second one, and it's all because he catches them off guard.
00:19:27
Speaker
it even works. But I also again, fun detail. We get a close up of him actually taking the safety off before firing active rounds into into the to it. So Yes, of particular note, whenever the clone is down, ah he he says to Voba, don't shoot, we're brothers!
00:19:48
Speaker
To which Voba responds, you're not my brother. And that's what I wanted to circle back to about the cadets. That... you know the The adult clones have this whole you brotherly camaraderie. Yeah, there's some outliers that that they will ah you be so antagonistic towards one another, just with personality clashes, because there's going to be personality clashes. But at the end of the day, they have this whole, you we're brothers
00:20:21
Speaker
thing going on that doesn't seem to have that seems to be a case of maturing and going through the whole combat training because the cadets aren't there yet they are you know actively hazing Boba as lucky yes yeah this boy completely is not drinking the clone Kool-Aid oh yeah Boba doesn't care oh Yeah, he he does but then he's also unmodified, and we'll know what that all means before too awful long.
00:21:00
Speaker
Mm-hmm. So yes, with the ship going down, the youth brigade are sent to escape pods, with a Boba joining them. and They are, at although Admiral Killian, who's the CO of the ship is set on going down with the ship. He's like, that's what a commanding officer does. But also, an interesting factor about Admiral Killian that I realized on this rewatch is that when he's instructing them, he doesn't tell them how dire this sit who the kid how dire the situation is could say He's also he's a
00:21:42
Speaker
clo ah individual So he's treating the kids like kids. who Yeah. he He's been treating them as soldiers in training until this moment. as i Oh no, we're going to do a little drill.
00:21:59
Speaker
we're we're We're going to do a drill. Go ahead and get in the escape pod. and a So again, it's it's it's interesting seeing the fact that, yes, it's a even though...
00:22:11
Speaker
It's recognized, and even the Jedi treat all clones as soldiers. He's treating them as like, and no, no, we gotta get these children out of the out of this dangerous situation. I don't want to alarm them.
00:22:26
Speaker
Now, Nick, quick question about Admiral Killian. ah Put your lore master hat on. Mm-hmm. Now, I know he he is not...
00:22:37
Speaker
designed to look like him, but is he named after comics and Star Wars production artist Killian Plunkett? To my knowledge, he is supposed to be be named after that, based on my okay isnt what i've what I've read and seen before.
00:22:58
Speaker
It's never been fully confirmed, at least in terms of sources that I know.
00:23:05
Speaker
I was just curious. I i was watching it and I was like, hey, is he named for Killian Plunkett? He was definitely, usually they go for modeling names and and i and actual like faces for when they try to make a joke like that, but no.
00:23:23
Speaker
Yeah, when when i when I thought of that, I looked up Killian Plunkett and I was like, well, that doesn't look like him. Especially during this time period when Clone Wars was being developed, they they would try to make either look like that or have them actually voice the character if they weren't going to look like that.
00:23:45
Speaker
I was just curious, so I figured I would ask you. Thank you. Yes, as the young clones escape, one of their pods fails with one yelling out, we're dead weight.
00:23:58
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And of course, they'll make right. Nero is getting so angry right now. It's just the angriest. Well, and the the pod fails because Boba has sabotaged the pod and the pod then docks with the slave one, which is being piloted by Ora Seng.
00:24:21
Speaker
and Don't you mean Boba Fett's starship? They call it on screen in these episodes, The Slave War. They do. i just I just have to make the joke.
00:24:34
Speaker
And, uh, but... He leaves the cadets behind. Basically, he leaves them to die. But he doesn't seem very happy about it. here This might be a start of goodness. Is Boba developing what is known as a character?
00:24:54
Speaker
Foreshadowing as a literary device. Boba would never develop a character. He's just a cool guy in a suit of armor. That's all that he needs to be. yep that's all he needs to be.
00:25:07
Speaker
and But the the clo or the cadets are rescued by the Jedi. Anakin and Mace rescue the kids. Yes, but whenever it comes to Boba leaving the clones behind, ah or Aura goading Boba into leaving them, she does it by going, do it.
00:25:31
Speaker
And it's like, ah, yes, it's it's the Star Wars thing. Yes, it's he said the thing. She said the thing. like poetry, so if they rhyme. here hu ne Interesting thing about Aura's thing that she...
00:25:47
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she
00:25:50
Speaker
She has, this is, if I'm right, correct me if I'm wrong, Nick, because I've slept since the episodes prior to this, set prior to this that we watched. This is the first time that she's actually gotten to do anything on screen anywhere other than just, you watch a pod race on Tatooine.
00:26:09
Speaker
Yes, this is her first canon appearance, not her... Yes, her first canon appearance was in The Phantom Menace overlooking the Boonta Eve Padres in Episode 1.
00:26:24
Speaker
But this is her first canonical reintroduction into the in the canon. But she has large history in Legends.
00:26:38
Speaker
Yep. and Which is vastly different. And I'll try and touch on that in the next in the next episode we get into, as we get to know more about her.
00:26:50
Speaker
What's kind of interesting about her is that most of her appearances are in ancillary media. with Oh yes, know nearly entirely. it's the yeah It's the Republic comics, and her last appearance is all the way up into the ah into the legacy sea of... No, no, not into the... not to Yeah, into the legacy novels.
00:27:20
Speaker
Yeah, but those those are clearly legends, and thanks to one-line in Solo, a Star Wars story, yeah, that that can't possibly happen.
00:27:33
Speaker
Yes, but the because again, they can't the canon Aurasing and Legends Aurasing are vastly different characters.
00:27:46
Speaker
Incredibly different characters. And it is kind of interesting to note, you know part of the whole thing about most of her appearances being ancillary media. It's one of those things that Alex Damon on Star Wars Explained has pointed out that the more a character that's not a main character appears in ancillary media for Star Wars, the less likely they ever are to appear on screen again.
00:28:14
Speaker
through. Because if they're going to be appearing in major projects, TV shows, or movies, Lucasfilm will tell the novel and comics writers, no, no, you can't use them.
00:28:32
Speaker
just ah Just an interesting thing. it's it's the It's basically the industry version of original character do not steal. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that takes us into the next episode, R2 Come Home, Season 2, Episode 21. Bounty Hunters Trap Anakin and Mace on Vangor. So, Survivor's Escape... We've been here before.
00:28:58
Speaker
We have? Yes.
00:29:04
Speaker
I don't remember. I've slept. Vangor, that... Wait, are you... wait i Are you doing a bit, Daryl?
00:29:17
Speaker
No, I'm saying I've slept since whenever we last saw this planet.
00:29:24
Speaker
And so I don't remember. I have cleared that cache. it was It was when Anakin and Obi-Wan were chasing Dooku and they crashed. It's the planet with the Gundarks.
00:29:41
Speaker
Well, I know that there are Gundarks, but, you know, Gundarks don't necessarily need to be in just one place. Yeah, it specifically, like... Okay. I believe you.
00:29:52
Speaker
I believe you. I do.
00:29:57
Speaker
I believe you. It's true. Do you do you have an episode name? Or number? Uh, yeah. I can bring that up, right? I don't have it see in front of me. he he Well, if you don't have it memorized, then it didn't happen. Oh no.
00:30:14
Speaker
ah ah While you're looking that up, um as the survivors escape pods are being taken aboard a rescue ship, Anakin and Mace head to the Endurance's crash site um in the hope Admiral Killian and the command crew survived.
00:30:31
Speaker
But Mace and Anakin don't see eye to eye about droids. Good news, everybody. In this episode, R2 gets to be a character.
00:30:42
Speaker
All right.
00:30:47
Speaker
You're not kidding, little buddy. I don't like to feel this place either. Your astromech is programmed to feel. R2 is kind of a special case. He's got a lot of personality.
00:30:59
Speaker
That's all. You encourage it too much.
00:31:07
Speaker
Yes, yes. And there we hear Mace's droid R8 in the background there. Yes, yes. R8 will surely be a character, too. I'd also like to note that was not 11.
00:31:18
Speaker
Oh, what? What was that, Nick? Season 1, episode 11, Dooku's capture. Oh, okay. So way early in the series. Yeah. No wonder we don't remember which episode that was. Yeah.
00:31:31
Speaker
Honestly, it makes sense, especially with the planet we get to soon in his arc. Yep. I'd also definitely like to mention that ah the shipwreck here, it looks great. It's an excellent setting for an episode.
00:31:47
Speaker
Oh, absolutely. It is a... Again, like... Star Wars ships have a... It's unique to see a Star Wars ship in a devastated area so it makes it look cool when it when it does become like a unique terrain piece yes yep and i you know now that i think about it looking at it this way i was about to say a setting like this would make for a great rpg session but then it just occurred to me
00:32:21
Speaker
Or was seeing this Fenator crashed kind of the inspiration for that level in Jedi Fallen Order? Honestly? Where you're going through the crashed Fenator.
00:32:36
Speaker
It's that, and also because they did, before that, Star Wars Battlefront 2 did create a full, like, inside and out canon, like,
00:32:50
Speaker
floor plan for a Venator.
00:32:54
Speaker
That's insane, but I want it. And it's like, it's, I guess, like, you can, it's split into two different maps. It's the, the Cacique map and the, uh, Galactic Assault, Assault map that includes those three, those three, like, like parts of the engine core that, uh,
00:33:19
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is the objective that he destroyed.
00:33:23
Speaker
It's very interesting. And all of that was built off of just the few bits and pieces that they had from the Clone Wars cartoon and what they showed inside side of the movies.
00:33:41
Speaker
Cool. So as the Jedi scout the wreckage, they send their astromechs to recon. They send R2 and R8 to recon. And the droids are attacked by Gundarks. And R8 is torn apart. Sorry, Lauren.
00:33:56
Speaker
No! Not R8! Didn't last long. Pour one out for R8. Again, we did talk about, like, it's one of the better one-off droid designs.
00:34:11
Speaker
Oh, yeah. R8 looks great. I thought it was purple initially, but... ah Lauren clarified that it was more of blue, but it was the gold that was bringing out the sort of the indigo color.
00:34:25
Speaker
Oh, i I definitely... So, nerd alert, i I know it's shocking that any one of us are nerds. Whoa! But if if I had the space to work on it, I would want to build an astromech.
00:34:40
Speaker
And I'm sure it will come as no surprise that the color scheme that I would give it would be based on the best comics character ever created anywhere in the world, which is Nightwing.
00:34:57
Speaker
Oh, of course. But I would yes jason go back i would go back to the the coloring of the original Nightwing costume. So there would be black, there would be blue and there would be gold accents. Lovely.
00:35:17
Speaker
So I, I so want to build one and I've downloaded the plans to do it. And our friend Donald co-host of the movie defenders has built one. So I have a resource to say like, Hey,
00:35:32
Speaker
Give me some advice here, but I just i don't have the space to do it. So, Daryl, I have to build an equal but more cool and better droid styled after the actual best Robin, Red Hood.
00:35:53
Speaker
jason i didn't say best Robin. I said best comics character. Ooh.
00:36:00
Speaker
So, know, take that what you will. means you have to make it brown like Squirrel Girl. No! she's She's just the... She is just the um the most unbeatable comics character.
00:36:15
Speaker
Yeah, and that makes her the best comics character, because that's how that works. That's not how that works. I mean, you it it could be how it works. Just doing that for the squirrel bullying. Yeah.
00:36:29
Speaker
No, it's because I'm associated with rodents. you know I've been associated with rodents since 2008, Nick. It has nothing to do with you. for
00:36:43
Speaker
You're right. i so I should have made them about me. yeah That's right. Squirrel!
00:36:53
Speaker
oh Anyway. Yes, yes. he repeats So, um on the bridge, Anakin and Mace find a certain silver and blue Mandalorian helmet that's been very carefully placed.
00:37:11
Speaker
And honestly, W-Trap is like a clearly a motion-based explosive inside of an obvious clue.
00:37:26
Speaker
Yeah, it's like, and even just the way that it's sitting with that that shaft of light shining down on it, it's like, Anakin, you idiot.
00:37:39
Speaker
The fact that Anakin does it completes the perfection of it. is like yep He would fall for the obvious. Oh, I'm going to pick that up.
00:37:51
Speaker
So yeah, Anakin starts to pick up the helmet. Mace does the math and makes the connection to Boba and to Jango. And he pulls Anakin away with the force as a bomb inside the helmet explodes.
00:38:07
Speaker
Yes. And then we cut away from them and we see Boba Fett in green. We're starting to see his his own individual color scheme emerge. Yeah.
00:38:21
Speaker
And it's but kind of fit's it kind of looks similar. The pattern looks similar to the half cape that he wears in episode five. Yeah. Now, kind of kind of a question here, Nick.
00:38:35
Speaker
We've all assumed throughout the years that Boba grows up and is wearing Django's armor. But that helmet just went boom.
00:38:49
Speaker
We see later that that helmet is split. So where's Boba get his helmet from? mean, he can fix a helmet.
00:39:02
Speaker
um but We don't see any sides of any kind of seam on the he on the helmet. We see a great big dent in the front, but we know where that came from. Although, really, that is the one sort of weird continuity error to Clone Wars. Because we do see Boba Fett wearing different helmets.
00:39:22
Speaker
Helmets throughout the age. But he does eventually grow into, quite literally, his father's armor.
00:39:35
Speaker
and it is described And it is described having us Being the exact armor that his father wore. Which.
00:39:45
Speaker
Uncomfortable means that he. Probably had to pry that off of his father's. Corpse. But the helmet. Which he also had to remove his dad's head from.
00:40:00
Speaker
Well. ah The more I think about Boba Fett. Went through a whole lot of stuff. Yeah, Boba's been... Well, actually, Nick, he didn't have to pry Jango's head out of the helmet, because if you look at episode two, you see... As you see, after Mace cuts his head off, you see a shadow of the helmet flying, and you see the head's shadow come out.
00:40:31
Speaker
So, Boba didn't have to pry his dad's head out of the helmet. He just... because when wendy he Remember, we also then see him after that you'll pick up the helmet and kind of you rest his forehead against its forehead lovingly. Jango's head was already out of the helmet.
00:40:50
Speaker
Either way That was much more family-friendly than him going and picking up the head off of the ground and doing that. But the implication, again, it hasn't been explained in canon or Legends, that
00:41:10
Speaker
since We can assume that Boba Fett recovers covers the broken helmet and reforges it. I mean, that that was quite the scavenger hunt, given everything that happens in the rest of the episode. Oh, yeah. I'm not i'm not saying it's a clean explanation, but that's the only explanation that exists.
00:41:33
Speaker
Because...
00:41:38
Speaker
that's I don't know. the ah Pablo! Maybe this is just a different helmet. We we need to ask Pablo. Pablo Hidalgo knows, but also he is he's trapped in the change chains of the mouse.
00:41:57
Speaker
and well ah And he purges his social media every so often when he gets tired of asked answering questions like this.
00:42:07
Speaker
Anyway, so the bounty hunters watch from the distance. People like us, they're like, trust me, we are not the first to ask these questions. We are not the first, nor will be the last.
00:42:19
Speaker
We're not the first, we won't be the last. I would like to think that we would be the most reasonable. We just want to know, like... among the most reasonable
00:42:33
Speaker
But so the the bounty hunters watch from a distance as the explosion goes off on the bridge of the Venator and they decide that they need proof of Mace's death.
00:42:45
Speaker
If for no other reason than to turn Mace and Anakin's remains over to the Separatists for a big payday. Oh, and they've got the surviving command crew prisoner.
00:42:56
Speaker
Yeah, they need that Cardoocu cash. But it's mainly the fact that this was whole thing was meant to be just a purely, like, revenge mission.
00:43:09
Speaker
That has spiraled way out hand. It's spiraled out of Boba's control. Boba's idea was, I want to kill the guy that killed my dad, but I need some help to do it.
00:43:24
Speaker
And, well, his his personal revenge mission has been commandeered. It
00:43:34
Speaker
would begin as like fun adventure. It'll take like a like half of an hour. now we're Now we're in a full campaign.
00:43:47
Speaker
Yeah. So R2 makes his way to the bridge where Anakin and Mace are trapped under some debris and moving it could collapse the entire bridge. So that's not good.
00:44:00
Speaker
That's not good. So Anakin sends R2 to go out to their fighters and call for help, which gives us the episode title's homage to Lassie Come Home.
00:44:12
Speaker
Yes! High five through the internet for getting the reference. Yeah, it's like, you know, what's that? What's that, R2? Anakin's stuck in a well.
00:44:26
Speaker
Yeah. So, yeah, we've we've got Lassie Come Home going here. Yep. And what were you about to say, Nick? Shut up. That's exactly what i wanted to why the say. this Glad that you got it. Gotcha.
00:44:44
Speaker
So, seeing the bounty hunters arriving, rtu just starts throwing obstacles in their way. Yes, yes. Some Home Alone shenanigans ensue. And to their credit, the bounty hunters are kind of reasonable. They're like, yeah, this isn't going to work.
00:45:01
Speaker
And so unable to get to the bridge. Yeah, trying to scale a still functional wreck of a warship.
00:45:13
Speaker
That has random explosions going off and is not stable. Yeah. Yeah, they are... They're most reasonable raiders of all time. Of Star Wars.
00:45:31
Speaker
Yeah. it In most Star Wars... at Most both stories, period... The rest of the plot would be them basically going through a video game level to get up to the bridge to have their big final confrontation.
00:45:47
Speaker
They would say, say like, screw this, guys. I'm going home. Yeah, they're like, oh, we can't get to the bridge. So they decide to just, you know, blast the hell out of the Endurance using the Slave I's cannons. Mm-hmm.
00:46:03
Speaker
Now, while R2 had no real trouble dealing with the bounty hunters, a large creature is what ends up giving him problems as he tries to reach one of the Jedi ships. And he ends up defeating the creature by connecting the monster to one of the ships through like a ah line, like it's got like suction cups on it. And then he sends the ship off to launch the monster off into the distance.
00:46:26
Speaker
It's pretty great. We get some good R2 action here.
00:46:31
Speaker
R2 is the big hero of the whole series. R2 is the main protagonist of all of Star Wars. argument is Arguably, that is a headcanon that Star Wars is told from the perspective of R2-D2.
00:46:54
Speaker
And that's C-3PO is so pathetic. And even if he isn't the main protagonist, he is certainly the one with the filthiest mouth because they had to bleep everything that he said.
00:47:08
Speaker
Yes. Yes. ah Even Lucas said it. It's like, yeah.
00:47:14
Speaker
And Rian Johnson confirmed it. A secret island. Watch the language. Secret island. Watch the language. ah Honestly, that is my favorite one of my favorite lines in that whole movie.
00:47:28
Speaker
Oh, yes. Always gets a belly like a hard belly laugh after me. So R2 flies Mace's fighter and jumps to avoid the hunter's jamming at the last moment.
00:47:45
Speaker
Yes, yes. And a callback to Boba at the turret from the last episode, but he only gets one target this time. Yep, the the two the two fighters, or the two hyperspace rings are lined up, and so Boba has to make a decision. i can shoot one of them, but I only have time to shoot one of them before he gets there, and I have to pick the right one.
00:48:09
Speaker
And he does not. He does not. So R2 gets to the Jedi Temple. The hunters have destroyed his communications array. So that's why he has to actually go instead of calling.
00:48:25
Speaker
And this this is one case where it's really good that galactic travel in Star Wars travels at the speed of plot. hmm. Because ah he alerts the Jedi and they go on a rescue mission.
00:48:42
Speaker
Yes, yes. And whenever R2 enters the room, there's already a droid the controls of a holotape device. And he he gets into a bit of a droid fight with him. Bumping him out of the way.
00:48:56
Speaker
And imagine if that were Chopper that he was fighting with. ah You don't know Chopper yet. No. He'll keep bringing Chopper up. and We gotta get you to Chopper.
00:49:07
Speaker
When we get to Chopper. didn
00:49:11
Speaker
You're gonna love Chopper. Well, okay.
00:49:15
Speaker
Chopper is droid and in every episode of Rebels. Well, alright. And war and a war crime. And you wanna talk personalities? Yes. His personality is war crimes.
00:49:28
Speaker
I see. so Um, Mace knows... Human guards in has a body count. So, Mace knows exactly what's going on that led to all of this.
00:49:45
Speaker
Whose helmet is that, anyway? It belongs to a bounty hunter I killed on Geonosis. By the name of Django Fett. You mean... the clone template?
00:49:56
Speaker
Yes. Strangely enough, he had a son. Or at least a clone he regarded as a son. His name is Boba Fett. I remember now.
00:50:08
Speaker
Obi-Wan listed him in his report on Kamino. Boba was on Geonosis when his father died. He watched as I killed him. That would complicate things.
00:50:21
Speaker
Indeed.
00:50:26
Speaker
and so not The message is this very haunting theme that doesn't ever come back again. really Interesting. and the The haunting theme that is supposed to be like associated with Boba Fett.
00:50:44
Speaker
Yeah, I'm surprised it doesn't come back again. It's really good. there really an opportunity to use it, though?
00:50:56
Speaker
Because the other times that Boba shows up, but it doesn't really fit that kind of mood. Well, i would say the book of Boba Fett, but he'd have to show up for that.
00:51:10
Speaker
Yeah, he would have to show, you know, he would have to be a character in a show named after him rather than you being a supporting character to the lead of a completely different series.
00:51:23
Speaker
I'm sorry, did I say that out loud? I made that joke already when we were re-watching this. like It would have been great if this very unique theme would have showed up by the actual a ah consent the sound director for this for that series as well to use that to reconnect with the character. if it's like, well, he'd have to be in the episodes.
00:51:55
Speaker
Yep. So, Plo Koon, Ahsoka... I'm totally not bitter about that at all. So, Plo Koon, Ahsoka, and Clone Troopers arrive just in time to save Anakin and Mace.
00:52:11
Speaker
And Mace actually congratulates R2 on a job well done, which Anakin remarks is more praise than he ever got from Mace. Amazing.
00:52:24
Speaker
but What about R8? We've already established R8's gone. is he safe? if he is he safe No, he's not. no He got torn apart by the Gundarks. We already covered that.
00:52:40
Speaker
We already covered it. Sorry. Remember I said I apologized to Lauren for that. Yeah. Another character in Star Wars completely wasted.
00:52:56
Speaker
And it's kind of interesting that the way that Anakin and Mace relate to one another in this episode and the next one is kind of interesting when you consider that they had complete 2020 hindsight from both or from all three of the prequel movies to to work with. And they they seem friendlier than they're going to end up being.
00:53:28
Speaker
I mean, yeah, I mean, Mishwendo is still a kind of... kind of... harsh and bad. It's like, they they this is the friendliest they have.
00:53:43
Speaker
This is like the most... This is the peak of their friendship. Yes. And they're just downhill. It's all downhill from here.
00:53:57
Speaker
And so that takes us into the final episode we're going to be covering, the last episode of this story arc, Lethal Trackdown. the end of season two. At the end of season two, Lethal Trackdown season two, episode 22.
00:54:12
Speaker
Plo Koon and Ahsoka pursue a young fugitive to Florum. All right. Florum, we know what that means. Yep.
00:54:22
Speaker
Is Stephanie out of the room? because he yeah to be upset about that Did you have to banish her from from your from when like from the living room?
00:54:34
Speaker
No. No, she was already out of the room. So dealing with the prisoners that they're holding, Boba seems kind of conflicted.
00:54:46
Speaker
Mm-hmm. you know, he he goes in, he's supposed to, he's not even supposed to deal with them, but he goes in and he talks to them a little bit, and Aura's not happy about that. Yes.
00:54:58
Speaker
And Anakin and Mace are recovering in the Jedi Temple and have an interesting conversation and get an alarming message. And this kind of goes hand-in-hand with your note that you have here, Laura, in this clip. Yeah. All right. Mm-hmm.
00:55:16
Speaker
So, what are you planning to do with this son of Jango Fett? I'm not planning to do anything. That kid destroyed an entire cruiser trying to get to you, and you're just gonna let it go?
00:55:28
Speaker
Is there something else I should be doing, Skywalker? How about tracking him down? So I should behave as this child does. I should seek revenge. No.
00:55:40
Speaker
How is it revenge if you stop this kid and bring him to justice? In case you hadn't noticed, we are fighting a war.
00:55:50
Speaker
We have a situation. We received a transmission from the bounty hunters.
00:55:58
Speaker
They apparently took hostages.
00:56:02
Speaker
Mace Windu, you were lucky to escape. Your friends here? We're not so fortunate. Until you face Boba, these men will be killed. One at a time.
00:56:13
Speaker
What's your name? Name! CT-4-11. Pathetic. Boba, do it.
00:56:24
Speaker
Boba!
00:56:28
Speaker
That was Pons. Only two to go, Windu. Come and find us. We'll be waiting.
00:56:38
Speaker
I'll go. I thought you had bigger concerns. That was before we knew hostages were involved. You are too injured to travel. And your presence would only aggravate the boy.
00:56:51
Speaker
i shall go and take Padawan Tano with me.
00:56:58
Speaker
Yeah, and so, like you say, Mace doesn't want revenge. Yes, well, not until ah not until it involves directly assisting people anyway. Yeah. and it'slthough it's It's also this passionate. It's not just a revenge. He's just trying to end a conflict.
00:57:18
Speaker
a if He has no stakes. He's showing no personal stakes. He doesn't see like any sort of like respect to... Yeah.
00:57:33
Speaker
He did kill his father. But he's he's not showing any... He did so as an act of a Jedi.
00:57:43
Speaker
So is it is it just me, though? Or knowing Mace's live-action counterpart, are you is anyone else having trouble seeing Samuel L. Jackson saying, no, no, I'm good about all of this? Honestly, I will say this as a personal...
00:58:07
Speaker
As someone who has grown up with the prequels, I have never liked the casting of Samuel L. Jackson
00:58:20
Speaker
as a Jedi master. In my opinion... You can get out. I am saying this in that he's wasted
00:58:32
Speaker
as a stoic character.
00:58:38
Speaker
Well, he's he's wasted by script wasting him. Exactly. He is an incredibly nuanced and very creative character.
00:58:54
Speaker
And I do love all the interpretations that they have done. Every... interpretation of his character outside of Samuel L. Jackson's portrayal of Mace Windu is superior to him on screen.
00:59:16
Speaker
I can't agree, but that's just because I i love me some Samuel Jackson. And i again, I'm not saying that I don't dislike him at all. since I just feel that he does not fit the character that he was described to as Mace Windu.
00:59:36
Speaker
Many others have done so in prose and in animation, in voice acting, have done some amazing work.
00:59:51
Speaker
Again, I just didn't feel that was like the right choice.
00:59:57
Speaker
Well, then I don't think we can be friends anymore. But I'll live. Food watch is over. I'm just kidding.
01:00:06
Speaker
I'm kidding, Nick. I am totally kidding. but I'm just saying that it's like...
01:00:15
Speaker
That's what I'm saying. and
01:00:19
Speaker
i get it. I get it. but but good perform so This performance is very, very nuanced so As the scene transitions and we see the Slave I fly by, they just unceremoniously toss Pond's body out into space.
01:00:38
Speaker
And this is a kid's show. Remember, folks, this is a kid's show.
01:00:45
Speaker
And so, Polo and Ahsoka head to the Coruscant underground underworld, seeking information about Jango Fett's associates. And I must say, Lord Coruscant looks very cool.
01:00:59
Speaker
And this is our first, first at least in the story, in continuity, our first set of the
01:01:11
Speaker
of the Coruscant underworld portal. but you yeah or Or you know I like the name that we coined for them in one of our RPG campaigns, The Burrows.
01:01:24
Speaker
The Burrows! like calling them The Burrows because it it's it's got multiple meanings to it.
01:01:36
Speaker
So the bounty hunters themselves, though, arrive on Florum to see Hondo. And Aura just totally max on him. They just aren't making out. i Without kids consent?
01:01:50
Speaker
Mm-hmm. Well, that's because they're bounty hunters and pirates, yo. they shes She's just going in there. Right in front child.
01:02:03
Speaker
Aura kills the other bounty hunter in their party, Castus, for starting to spread information about them. he's just And he's not even subtle about it. He's like three feet away from her. She's at a bar bantering and flirting with Hondo. And he's like three feet away at a holocom. At a public holocom. At a public holocom going like, hey...
01:02:32
Speaker
This job has gone really bad. And I was working with Ora Singh. And she was working with Boba Fett. And they tried to kill Jedi. But right now we're on Florum. Can you come pick me up? yeah my I can't get a hold of my mom. Can you come pick me up? you That kind of thing. This is like.
01:02:52
Speaker
I'll admit like. i you This is literally like. This is like. putting up like signal fire up and like, hey guys, all this is bad. I'm not good. Someone pick me up.
01:03:11
Speaker
Oh away hey wait, they might be hearing me. I need to speak louder.
01:03:20
Speaker
And then she shoots him. And she shoots him. And I didn't pull the clip, but I i love Hondo's line as the scene transitions when he orders order somebody to clean him up.
01:03:34
Speaker
He sprung a leak. Yeah. They're just all really casual about it. yeah Also, I do love that that when the drinks are being served, so or saying, starts Boba sprung a Yes.
01:03:53
Speaker
Yeah, she... Some very, very odd contradictions in behavior going on. It's like, whoa, whoa, you can't trade that. that did that's a Also, everything that Hado says, like, that's not mine, is it?
01:04:11
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah.
01:04:15
Speaker
And Plo and Ahsoka are still on the hunt and it he needs to have a little talk with her as they're about to go into one of the places.
01:04:28
Speaker
Well, hope we have better luck here. This is the fifth scum bucket drinking hall we've been to. Yes. And this time, try to be more subtle.
01:04:41
Speaker
What do you mean? You've adopted many of your master's ways, including lack of subtlety.
01:04:51
Speaker
Sorry, Master Plo. Just try to blend Listen. You may be surprised what people reveal when they have been drinking.
01:05:05
Speaker
Yes, yes. And then Ahsoka goes focus mode as we get a neat scene of her trying to basically, I guess, use some sort of force sense to detect all of the various conversations happening around the bar.
01:05:22
Speaker
Right. And as she does that, she overhears Castus' friend that he was talking to talking about him being killed. And so i like, hey, yeah, my my friend got in bad with this job, but I think he got killed.
01:05:38
Speaker
and And that's almost literally what his dialogue is. Yeah. yeah But it also does show how like casual and cruel that the Star Wars underworld is. Like, this is like...
01:05:52
Speaker
just like regular conversation over drinks. It's like, yeah. My friend died. It's like, who is he working with? It's like, yeah.
01:06:08
Speaker
Most of those people work with them die. yes
01:06:15
Speaker
So Plo and Ahsoka head to Florum and Hondo greets them and he lets them know, hey, yeah, Hora's got a trap set, but yeah I don't know what it is. And Plo-kun's like, well, why are you telling us?
01:06:30
Speaker
Well, want you to know that I wasn't involved. Again, the did this is actually part of the injury character of Hondo. He's like, he is a man of honor.
01:06:44
Speaker
Yeah. he i'm I'm not involved, but it's it's my place. I'm letting you know. a going to get real when you get in there.
01:06:55
Speaker
They are setting a trap, but I am not setting the trap. Yes. They're setting a what?
01:07:04
Speaker
What is it, Nick? ah Say the line, Nick.
01:07:10
Speaker
Say the line. yeah You said the line. There you go. You said the thing. So yes, they they enter, and the two do end up falling in the trap, leading to a scenario where both of the children are ready to murder someone. Like, ah Boba has Plo Koon in, like, a headlock with a gun to him, and then Ahsoka has Aura with her lightsaber at her throat, and they're both they're both threatening to ah to kill the the adults in the room.
01:07:42
Speaker
It's a pretty intense moment, and also just, like... These are kids. They're about to murder some people. Uh-huh. Literal children. and what one of them is ah more or less a template for child soldiers. And one of them is a child soldier. and Again, it's like poetry. It's sort of they rhyme. Mm-hmm.
01:08:07
Speaker
Mm-hmm. Wait. Remember. This has nothing to do with anything in the real world. It has no problems at all. Nope, nope, not political at all.
01:08:20
Speaker
Not at all. It has no parallels to anything at all. so
01:08:27
Speaker
Get your hackles down. and Remember, this is this is just fun. This is just a kid's show. Just a kid's show. After a brief standoff there, Aura runs, abandoning Boba.
01:08:43
Speaker
And Boba's... He is devastated. Yeah, he's like, what? And she's like, sorry kid, cut my losses. yeah It's almost like he was abandoned by the most important or parental figure that he had at the moment.
01:09:06
Speaker
Again, it's like poetry, so if they rhyme.
01:09:10
Speaker
And Plo captures Boba. Boba won't talk. So Plo takes him to Hondo. He will not reveal the location of the hostages.
01:09:21
Speaker
I thought you might talk some sense into him.
01:09:26
Speaker
Tell the Jedi what he wants to know, Boba. Why should I help anybody? I've got no one. It is the honorable thing to do.
01:09:38
Speaker
It's what your father would have wanted.
01:09:43
Speaker
It's one of those... So here's part of why I like Hondo. and And it's one of the things that that when he impacts her like this, that Stephanie nus hates about him because she hates the character. And then when he goes around and does something like this, it's one of those rare moments where Hondo just drops all the facade and he's like, look, you you know, and as I'm starting to say this,
01:10:12
Speaker
This starts to establish a pattern with Hondo. Hondo has a soft spot for kids. Oh, this is... Before you get into this, this when i actually was like... I started... I liked Hondo as a fun... Oh, he's a Jack Sparrow type rogue.
01:10:40
Speaker
This... moment here was when i was like there's layers. he's a three-dimensional character. a And I loved him.
01:10:53
Speaker
he He has a a weakness for kids because we we've seen him give advice to Ahsoka. We've seen him give advice to the younglings. We've seen him be genuine like this with Boba. And we're not there yet.
01:11:11
Speaker
There's more to him to grow. when When we get to Rebels, all I'm going to say, Lauren, is without going into spoilers... ah one of One of the main characters of Rebels is a 16-year-old.
01:11:26
Speaker
Ah, And Hondo isn't a regular character, but just like on Clone Wars, he's a recurring character. if And most of his interactions bounce off of the teenage character.
01:11:41
Speaker
I see. lead into Leading to, in the finale, the the moment that made my wife texted me and said, fucking Hondo made me cry.
01:11:55
Speaker
Where the the teenager is in trouble, and you know Hondo, whenever he shows up in the series, dial the wackiness of Hondo from Clone Wars up one or two notches. And that's how he behaves in Rebels.
01:12:13
Speaker
he's He's very much Jack Sparrow from the later Pirates movies. Where he kind of he's very flamboyant. but They kind of do that as like a parody of it.
01:12:26
Speaker
Yeah. And one of the other characters is trying to convince Hondo to help them with the teenage character in trouble. And he's been doing his Hondo shtick. And then he turns and looks at her and says, Hera, for that boy, i would do anything.
01:12:46
Speaker
And she's fucking Hondo made me cry. oh no. ah yeah Because he he has, and it, it goes back to these early appearances. He has a soft spot for kids.
01:13:01
Speaker
and he He is, he's a com he's one of the more complex characters. He's he's a rogue. He's a bad guy But what everyone remembers about him is the Jack Sparrow stuff.
01:13:20
Speaker
Yeah. yeah And that is what eventually he does because because eventually, like again, the criminally underrated, the fact that they cut that That dialogue from one of the Pirates of Caribbean is like.
01:13:42
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And the the scene where Jack Sparrow was confronted is like.
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You abandon cargo. It's like. People aren't cargo.
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And that scene should have been in the movie and that. Because it changes the entirety of Jack Sparrow. And it does... And that's what... And there's something that Kondo would feel.
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And so Ahsoka chases down Aura on on speeder bikes. Yeah. And Aura tries getting away in the Slave one but Ahsoka causes it to crash.
01:14:27
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Yes. And she is... out of her blood. Oh yeah, absolutely. Oh yeah. Oh yeah, I mean, Ahsoka is like, she she cuts off one of the stabilizer wings, she stabs her lightsaber through the canopy glass.
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She is not, she had no intention of taking the aura alive. It's also notable that whenever whenever they arrive at the Slave One, it's not because Aura went there herself, it's because Ahsoka received the directions from Boba to where the Slave One was located, and she got there first and rescued the hostages before Aura basically leaves her lizard friend behind, at which point Ahsoka goes beastly. She came in like, Kamakasi herself,
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her speeder bike into the other speeder bike likely intended to do damage. Yep. head you But even with that crash, I am sure that Aurra Sing will return in Avengers Doomsday. oh of course.
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And so will the Slave won
01:15:41
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but Boba Fett's starship. Boba Fett's starship, yes. Yes. So Boba and Bosk are taken to prison on Coruscant.
01:15:55
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Yes. That's kind of the darkest part of this ending. Yeah, they're putting a 10-year-old in a supermax. And we close out the episode on Boba saying to Mace Windu, I'll never forgive you.
01:16:13
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To which he replies, well, you'll have to. And... I almost pulled that clip. Which goes back to the idea that did that that that we talked about earlier. like The Jedi consider themselves justice.
01:16:32
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e And... there well it's a It's a very poignant line and exchange between Boba and Mace. and But part of me is also going like, he he he doesn't really have to forgive you, Mace.
01:16:49
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He doesn't have to. I don't know why you think he has to. Just because you're the good guy? yeah Again, it's it's part of the Jedi supposedly having the moral monopoly right now. But you know do do they really?
01:17:08
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They believe they do Exactly. Exactly. but that We i can, and we we have in the episodes that follow this, have quite a few conversations about that.
01:17:22
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and yeah like But again, i major for's like we the the Jedi have sentenced a child who witnessed his father being, yes, extrajudicially murdered during During a conflict.
01:17:39
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And the individual said that, so like, well, get over it. Go to prison. Get over it, kid. Get over it, kid. Tell your dad how how bad you feel. Oh, wait, you can't.
01:17:53
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I decapitated him. Right in front of you. So, now that we have... Circled back and caught up on these three episodes. What'd you think of these three, Lauren? You know, they were all right. it was neat seeing Boba Fett in action, the the young Boba Fett, seeing him be more than just a guy in a suit of armor.
01:18:13
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Because I'm pretty sure that's all I've ever seen him be in the past. And it is a start of his arc. And again, it's a good arc.
01:18:27
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it We'll get into the book of Boba Fett at some point. Yeah. You know, I like i liked having a bit Ahsoka action. I liked the ideas. liked the ideas. And the story arc that they told, I don't like how it was told.
01:18:43
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and But yeah, I liked ah i liked having some R2 action. That was pretty great. I love whenever R2 gets the scenes. I loved having some Ahsoka action. The third episode was basically a shared Ahsoka Boba episode. So that was pretty neat.
01:18:58
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And seeing the Clone Wars. yeah and And the Clone...
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So, you know, there there was some pretty cool in these episodes. Yeah, and you when you put it in context, that they were still fairly early, too. Yeah, yeah. The the ending of Season 2. Hey, we finally finished Season 2 of Clone Wars, everybody! Yay! It was 28 episodes! But honestly, it it was a strong end. it It has a lot of stuff that... that Especially with the benefit of hindsight.
01:19:39
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There's a lot of stuff that we can infer about like the role of the Jedi, the ah child soldier stuff. There's a whole lot that we were able to like reflect on And some of the classic memes came back. R8. R2 being a character.
01:20:04
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that that was mainly it that was the main meme that we returned to But it was ah it was it was a big one during during the early yeah early days. Yes, it was. Yep, yep.
01:20:16
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And you we will circle back on our next Clone Watch episode. We will circle around and catch the remaining four episodes that we accidentally skipped.
01:20:31
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But before we get to that, looking at the calendar... Our next episode is... We're sticking with Star Wars. But our next episode, we will be talking The Mandalorian and Grogu.
01:20:47
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we we're We're getting Star Wars on the big screen for the first time six a half years. Seven, exactly.
01:21:00
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No, six and a half. Rise of Skywalker came out in December. of 2019 came out in December 2019. And this is may of, of 2026. Okay. So,
01:21:15
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so get six and a half years. And so I, I am looking forward to it. We all have our tickets already. We're going as a group. We're being a bunch of nerds and there, there's no, no better way to see a movie than with a group of your friends.
01:21:34
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If I cry, it has to be okay with that. ah it Stephanie is already looking forward to seeing Grogu interact with the Anzelans some more, because that's just pure adorableness.
01:21:52
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