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San Diego Comic Con 2019 Recap
21 Plays6 years ago
Sheena and Phil discuss all the Mattel WWE figure news before anyone else! Plus they recap Fight for the Fallen, Extreme Rules, and so much more!
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Transcript
Introduction and New Cast Member
00:00:13
Speaker
It's the most wonderful time of the year. Welcome to the Chick Foley show. It's the hot take kid here in the Jimmy's famous seafood studios. And this might be like the season premiere. It's the season premiere of Chick Foley show. I have a lovely Sheena Phelps and V.A. So what's going on, guys?
00:00:38
Speaker
Not too much, and we have our new intern. New addition to the show, Marco Denton, our first ever intern. What's going on, Marco? Nothing much. It's hanging out over here. We need to listen to you guys mess up so I can correct you. Oh, we're ready, man. I got so many mess ups coming.
00:00:58
Speaker
I know. We typically, you know, when you're like at a party or something, you never want to be that guy that's like, you know, like correcting people when they're saying like stupid stuff. But we like, we brought somebody on just to specifically for that purpose. So I mean, man, this should get interesting.
Episode Topics Overview
00:01:12
Speaker
People do it to me all day on Twitter. So might as well just have it. Yeah. Someone, someone doing it to me during the show. So true. You are so used to that. Yeah. I forgot about that. Actually, he won the title of the night before that.
00:01:24
Speaker
That voice. Yeah, that's exactly how everyone's. Yeah. So welcome to the show. Here's a rundown of what we're going to be doing. We have a lot of stuff to get to. So Marco is going to keep us on on task here, but she and I will recap, fight for the fallen, extreme rules. We'll briefly touch on Evolve, Raw and Smackdown this week. And then we will get into all of the news that has happened over the last 24 to 48 hours. San Diego Comic Con.
00:01:50
Speaker
And what we still have, well, hopefully you get to see over the next couple of days. So we have a jam packed show, but as you, as I mentioned at the top, Sheena, Marco Denton, our MVP is on the show with us this evening. This is going to be running for a while. We wanted to have an intern on the show to kind of add a third person that would, you know, have some drop-ins and help us produce a show a little bit. So I think Marco is going to run with it a little bit here and we'll, we got a ton of people from Twitter that wanted to do it too. So I'm going to maybe change it up every month or so. So.
00:02:19
Speaker
I'm pretty excited. I think it'll be pretty fun to add a third voice onto the show. Yeah, for sure. I'm pumped too, man. And like you said, this
00:02:28
Speaker
I like, I was so stressed. I was like, we should just break this up into two episodes tonight. Like we should have one episode about like in-ring wrestling and then one episode strictly about comic-con because honestly, like, I don't know how we're going to cram all of this into one like major episode because there was so many, like after yesterday I was like, oh my God, it was just preview night. I was like, man, this is kind of a letdown. And then today it was just like my phone was on fire and I was following not only Mattel, but I was following NECA. So like,
00:02:57
Speaker
My brain is like figure fried right now, so I'm excited to like get through the wrestling part of it all and then really dive into some figure talk. For sure. If you are a Patreon, I am going to post a picture or try to post a picture of every single figure from yesterday and today that was announced because I'm sure a lot of slip through the cracks.
Community and Social Engagement
00:03:16
Speaker
I keep going on to Ringside Collectibles Twitter account and seeing new things that I hadn't seen earlier in the day because I had to actually work today.
00:03:24
Speaker
If you're a Patreon member, welcome to the show. We have a couple new Patreons that are joining us this evening. Their names are going to be Alan Day and Michael Rossen. Easy names this week. So thank you boys for joining us and thank you for having easy to pronounce names. Both of you will be able to enjoy
00:03:44
Speaker
Bonus episodes, bonus video, unboxing videos, the articles on the website. You'll get Sheena's show notes delivered to your inbox every week. And the biggest part is being part of our Facebook group, which was a buzz today with all of the news. And it's a good place for us to kind of interact with each other and organize a spot and buy and trade figures from each other. It's been pretty fun.
00:04:05
Speaker
patreon.com slash chick Foley show that's where you can Get all of our bonus content there all the proceeds go back into the show for giveaways and merch and stuff like that So we thank you for all of your support. You can follow me on Twitter I operate the show account on Twitter at chick Foley show you can follow Sheena on Instagram at chick Foley You can follow Marco on Twitter at in glorious gent G and T. He's a great follow there a good member of the community and
00:04:34
Speaker
And those are all the plugs. We have a couple more plugs before we get going here. Yeah, we're going to go into a lot of figure news, guys. So we want to make sure that if you do go on pre-order figures and things like that, if you go to ringside collectibles, you use code Chick Foley because you're going to save yourself some dollar-dollar bills. You get 10% off your order by using code Chick Foley. So that is at ringside collectibles.
00:04:59
Speaker
Also, I have some exciting news for this week. And then going forward, you know, you guys know I'm a hardcore chocolate Mark and they love the chick Foley fam. And you know, we have, we have joined forces and they are offering our followers 15% off of any order.
00:05:16
Speaker
Um, using code chick C H I C K. So make sure when you order from chalk line, you use code chick. I don't know if you guys follow them, but it's at chalk line official and man, they just bring the heat every day. Not only with WWE, I mean, they have, um, Nickelodeon, if you're a nineties kid like myself and you love the Nick tunes, Ninja turtles, like all of their stuff is just fire. They have a freaking killer bridge bulldog jacket that is dropping for summer slam. Um, and a brand new like,
00:05:45
Speaker
multicolored dream coat of, you know, Ric Flair, Nature Boy. So go on their site, check it out. And like I said, if you order anything, make sure you use Code Chick and get yourself 15% off. So we love our friends over at Chalk Line.
00:05:57
Speaker
Awesome, awesome partnership. You've been a big supporter of theirs. They have, you know, it seems like every week they have some cool stuff dropping. Also need to mention our friends over at Collar & Elbow. It's owned by former WWE superstar Al Snow. We've been promoting them for a while. It's collarandelbowbrand.com and you get 10% off there. The code is chick, I believe, for that website, Sheena.
00:06:19
Speaker
uh... yep it is chick and then you get a ten percent off your order over at collar and elbow so here's here's the deal now ten percent off on ringside collectibles ten percent off on uh... collar and elbow fifteen percent off of chalk line if you buy something from each of these websites at any point in the next foreseeable future and you send us a screenshot we will have you on the show and you can join us for one segment of your choosing uh... and uh...
00:06:48
Speaker
It can be a pay-per-view recap. It can be to talk about whatever things you buy. But if you support our friends, we'd love to have you on. And we'll talk with you on the show here live. So those are three websites that I think most wrestling fans are buying from already. And if you're not, you should be because they're all awesome. So this is a great way to give back to people and give you guys a discount on the stuff that you're already buying. So check out our friends over at those three awesome websites.
00:07:15
Speaker
Let's
Wrestling Event Reviews
00:07:16
Speaker
get into it. Fight for the Fallen was on Saturday on BR Live. Overall thoughts, Sheena, before we get into some of the matches. Well, my initial thought was that it was a lot longer than I was anticipating. Like it was Saturday night, you know, I had I've been solo parenting all week. I know you guys, if you follow me on my my personal page, Sheena Phelps, like you see the the mom drama over there and all that kind of stuff. So I've been solo parenting and
00:07:41
Speaker
man by Saturday night I was like I'm gonna settle in and watch some watch some wrestling and then the show by the time the buy-in show was over and then you know I got halfway through um fight for the fall and I was like oh my god like this show is gonna be for four hours or for over four hours um so yeah it was it was uh it was a big show for something that I thought was just gonna be like a quick a quick um you know kind of throwaway show you know what I mean
00:08:08
Speaker
100%. And I think they definitely improved some things over the last couple of shows. I liked some of the packages that they used, the video package to start the show. They had a nice one for Hangman Page that was just kind of thrown in there. They're doing a good job of at least adding to the show. I mean, the first couple of shows, there was just kind of match after match after match. They did a good job of adding some stuff like that and breaking it up. I did like the choice of the venue was just a different look, which was cool.
00:08:37
Speaker
Yeah, it was cool. I like that. I like how the the ramp went straight into the ring. I thought that was pretty cool. For sure. Yeah, it's a couple of things that I liked.
00:08:48
Speaker
The announcing is still not good. I don't know what combination that they need to get on when they do the weekly shows. Jim Ross is still not what he was before. He's like a step slow or they don't have someone. I don't know if they have someone in the back like a Bruce Prichard that's kind of feeding stuff to them. We make fun of WWE for having that.
00:09:11
Speaker
God, you need that. You need to fill those awkward silences where none of the three of them know what the fuck to say. And that happened a couple times and I was like, what's going on here? You notice it because WWE fills every millisecond of air. And when you have someone that doesn't, which is more realistic, I mean, it's hard to do that. It really rings true when you're listening to it. So that was one criticism.
00:09:36
Speaker
I don't know who the fuck told me Brandy Rhodes is a wrestler. She is not a wrestler. I had a bunch of people on Twitter tell me, oh, she's wrestled all, you know, for ROH and TNA. She's not a wrestler. And if she, she is, I mean, she shouldn't be. Yeah. I gave her some props for getting in there, but you know, it's, it's definitely not her strength.
00:09:56
Speaker
Yeah, I'm not gonna take away anything from anybody trying to follow their dreams and do the things. And like I kind of talked about Brandi Rose, I think it was either last week or the week before. I was like, you know what, she's got the power, she's got the strings, she's married to the visionary of AEW. So obviously whatever she wants, whatever matchup she wants, she's gonna be able to get in there and get her hands dirty, right? It's not like she has to earn her stripes to get a match on a pay-per-view.
00:10:22
Speaker
Man, she really showed how green that she truly was. I know before the show started, she did this little promo package where she was talking about not being able to do it and getting in her head. I thought that was kind of a work. I knew she wasn't a real wrestler.
00:10:41
Speaker
I mean, once she got in the ring, I was like, oh yeah, now I see why you were crying before the show because you weren't scared that it was going to look like this. Um, and yeah, it was just not good. Um, you know, like I said, hopefully she, she gets better and you know, um, practice practice makes perfect, but yeah, especially considering some of the people that they have on the AEW roster, I mean, the Brit bakers and you know, all these amazing talent they have. Um, she's really going to stick out like a sore thumb if she tries to go against them.
00:11:08
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, gosh, she looks great doing it. I mean, oh, she's she's gorgeous. I mean, she's amazing looking. Oh, yeah. I mean, you know, obviously, if we're just going to be superficial, like, yeah, she's freaking gorgeous. I mean, when she's walking Cody to the ring, I mean, like that, that's like the perfect like Miss Elizabeth role for her. You know what I mean? Being a valet, even being a mouthpiece.
00:11:28
Speaker
You know what I mean? Like she, if she wants to cut promos, not that she's the best on the mic, but I feel like that that's just a better, better role for her, you know, um, or like a Stephanie McMahon role, right? Like just coming in and like, like kind of undermining the baby faces on the roster, you know, like with the awesome Kong thing and all that stuff.
00:11:46
Speaker
Um, but yeah, as it looks right now, I don't want to see her wrestle any of the other girls one, because I just don't think, I don't think it was safe. I mean, there was one point where she suplexed Allie and it was just like, Oh God, like she's just dropped Allie on her head. You know what I mean? Um, so yeah, you know, Brandi Rhodes, like, I, like I said, I respect anybody following their dreams and trying to make it happen, but
00:12:08
Speaker
Stop trying to make it happen, it's not going to happen. Yeah, like you said, do a mixed tag match with Cody every once in a while, kind of like Stephanie does, but you have a lot of other strengths. Give that spot to someone else that you can sign off the street that can make the roster a little bit stronger.
00:12:28
Speaker
I really liked the opening match of the show with Jimmy Havoc, Darby Allen, Joey Janela, MJF, Sammy Guevara, Sean Spears. That was a nice six-man tag. I was a little surprised they didn't give MJF any mic time to start the show, but they probably knew that the show was going to run a little bit longer than they wanted.
00:12:46
Speaker
Yeah, I think, I mean, I think, um, you know, they gave him the mic at the last show. I think he kind of established himself and they kind of, they kind of ran it back and showed his promo from last time. So I think it was just kind of like, they were just hoping that people watched, you know, um, fighter fest and saw, and saw all of that. But yeah, I liked it. I was concerned when I first saw this matchup because, you know, um, Sean Spears had literally just beat Cody over the head with the chair. And I was like, MJF is Cody's best friend. So how am I supposed to believe that these guys are in a, you know, six man tag together and whatnot?
00:13:15
Speaker
but it played well into the match. They actually did a really good job telling that story. Yeah, you know, and just the intricacies of, you know, their interactions with one another and kind of how it built throughout the match. I thought it was really, really good. And it's something that you don't really see a lot in WWE. Like, you know, these, these two guys that are, that are heels, you know, like going against one another for, for this, like,
00:13:39
Speaker
like united purpose you know what i mean i don't know it was just something that like i felt like i was like man they did a really good job and it's something that i don't i didn't i don't really notice a lot in wwe like wwe is pretty straightforward right like heel baby face like you you know you can't put two bad boys against each other and that sort of thing so i thought it was cool and i'm i'm interested to see where they go going forward um i i thought it was kind of corny that sean spears like now he's the chairman i kind of like that it's cool sean
00:14:10
Speaker
I mean, it is a cool nickname, but at the same time, I'm like, so that's going to be your thing now, like, you know, like giving people unprotected headshots with with chairs. Like, how long is that going to last? You know what I mean? I guess I guess you have to run with it once that once you take enough shit on like social media and, you know, in the in the media in general for for that spot, particularly because I know a lot of people were really like criticizing it.
00:14:33
Speaker
I guess you just kind of got kind of have to own it and be like, if it like, you know, this is part of the story now. So I do respect him for that. But I was like, oh, that's kind of corny because he like pulled his shirt open and it was like chairman and whatnot.
00:14:45
Speaker
Yeah, it was very interesting. Did you see Dr. Britt Baker accidentally try to tag the wrong team mate? Oh my gosh. It turns out she has some sort of concussion. She got hit in the head earlier. So I guess it's understandable. But I think that Rio has been on a couple of these shows. Yeah.
00:15:06
Speaker
I don't know. It really makes you appreciate the women's wrestling in WWE because someone posted a video, I didn't watch this match, I don't know how I missed it, but some of the strikes that these ladies were giving each other was just
00:15:21
Speaker
just horseshit, just not even like, it was just four, like the weakest looking forearms you've ever seen. Um, not good. And going back to the, the Brandy roads match, where are we now going to get an Asia Kong versus what's the awesome Kong versus Asia? Come on, man. I'm not interested in that at all. Like I have absolutely zero interest. I had absolutely zero interest.
00:15:45
Speaker
having awesome kong come out to the ring but obviously brandy has a hard-on for awesome kong because that's like her that's her go-to move um and so anyway yeah i had no interest in that at all but i mean i guess if you're that bad of a wrestler like brandy as you do need that that backup it really made sense storyline wise but yeah that that she does nothing for me
00:16:06
Speaker
Um, I didn't hate this, this, um, women's tag match. Um, it's just right now. I mean, Britt Baker obviously stands out to me because I know who she is, you know, and I know she's Adam Cole's girlfriend. You know what I mean? Like I know her from other things, but I feel like all the other women don't have any real like distinct.
00:16:22
Speaker
characteristics that make them stand out to me. You know what I mean? Like I feel like they all just kind of like run together. When I was watching the match, I was like, wait a minute. Like, so who's who's tagging with who, you know, and it kind of just like all all ran together. So I'm hoping as they get TV time and all those things and we get more familiar with the roster that they start to kind of come into their own because, yeah, it didn't really do anything to me. This was the match that
00:16:45
Speaker
I started watching because like I said, I put the baby face down. I was watching on a little bit of a of a delay. So I've started with this match and it was like it was already on like whenever whenever I came down and I actually sat down to start watching.
00:16:59
Speaker
Yeah, a couple of these ladies were in that six-man tag, whatever you want to call it, from Double or Nothing. And so they've been on two or three of these AEW shows. I still don't know anything about them. Nothing. Don't even know which one's which.
00:17:16
Speaker
True. But partially that is like partially our fault because like, I don't, I don't have enough interest in them to research and like, you know, get into, you know, their past and all that stuff. So, I mean, I do take a little bit of responsibility for that. There's so much wrestling out there right now. And I'm trying to follow all the things that like, yeah, I could probably do a quick Wikipedia search on these chicks and do a quick rundown and figure out what they're about, who they are, who they fought, where they came from. Um, but I just don't, at this point, I just don't care enough.
00:17:41
Speaker
So I'm hoping as AEW progresses and things like that, that I do start to care a little more.
00:17:50
Speaker
Uh, great match, uh, Kenny Omega versus SEMA, who I had no idea who he was, but, uh, I'd never seen him wrestle before, but, uh, damn good wrestler. And it was a really fun match. And, uh, this is kind of the, uh, couple of these matches weren't perfect matches. Like the, the Cody Rhodes and the Young Box and the Lucha Bros against SoCal and Sensor just, you know, weren't the perfect fit. I think this Kenny Omega and SEMA just clicked. It was a great match. Good back and forth. Had some nice spots in it and, uh, probably the highlight of the night for me.
00:18:19
Speaker
Yeah. Um, I will be very honest. I remember at the, at the top of the show, I was telling you guys like that I was getting through the show and I was like losing it. Like, uh, during the Kenny Omega and Shima match, I like fell asleep and I was like, Oh my God, I fell asleep during Kenny Omega's match. You know,
00:18:34
Speaker
Um, so I felt like such a heel and then I woke up during Jericho's Jericho's promo. So I went back and watched a little bit of it. Um, you know, I plan on going back and watching it start to finish because I heard it was, it was incredible. And one of the best matches on the entire card, but it was just such a huge week of wrestling and solo parenting and all that and get to actually go back and sit down and watch it.
00:18:55
Speaker
start to finish uninterrupted but I did hear that this match like tore the house down so and I think it's cool because you know I mean we saw we saw Kenny at the previous pay-per-view event you know in a six man tag and it was cool seeing him with the young bucks and all that like I popped that you know but I think this is more this is his wheelhouse right here you know this one-on-one just like ass kicking and that's what that's what Kenny Omega is known for that's what he's good at and I'm excited to sit down and actually watch this watch this top to bottom
00:19:24
Speaker
She knows nothing. I fell asleep during this Adam Page keeps saving match twice. Oh my gosh I actually went on stories during that match and I was like you guys I feel like this match is going in slow motion Like I just felt like especially at the beginning of the match and these two guys are amazing Like I don't I don't know why they just didn't have the the chemistry right off the bat I don't know. I don't know what it was, but it was just kind of like I
00:19:50
Speaker
Um, yeah, it was just very slow, you know, and that's not what I expected out of, out of this match. So yeah, I was kind of, I was kind of bored overall. I thought it was a decent match. I thought it was good. I have no real issues with it other than it started kind of slow and kind of didn't, didn't hook me right from the beginning on an already long show. I think that's kind of the problem. Right. So like, you know, this match had, had been on a, on a, you know, four or five match.
00:20:15
Speaker
Uh, or yeah, four or five match card, then we would have been like, you know, locked in. But because the show was so long, because the, um, you know, the buy-in had a couple of matches on it. We were just already like kind of burned out by this point, you know?
00:20:29
Speaker
Our buddy Marcos is from OWE, and he's been on both of their pay-per-views. Yeah. So yeah, he's a guy that I think is a name that people will definitely recognize going forward. I don't know if he's a part of AEW. Are we to believe that now everyone that should be on these cards is now signed to an AEW contract? No, I don't think so. So Awesome Kong, they asked Brandy about Awesome Kong after the match, and she gave a very vague answer. She was like, you know,
00:20:59
Speaker
Awesome Kong can come come around whenever whenever she feels like it or whenever you know whenever I need her we have a really great working relationship. And it was just kind of like you know no she's not she's not signed to a full-time contract so yeah I think there's still a lot of stuff getting shaken out and I know a lot of these guys are signed exclusively but I think there's still a lot of a lot of back and forth.
00:21:19
Speaker
Also, I'm going to do a quick Marco. I'm pretty sure it's pronounced Shima. I say SEMA just because that's how like I would think of like John Cena, you know, like, yeah, instead of being like, you know, Cena S-E-N-A it's S-I-M-A, but it's, I think it's pronounced she, she, like Shima. So. Shima. Okay. Yeah. Like Shashimi. Shashimi. Yeah. You know.
00:21:40
Speaker
You said something on your Instagram about the dark order being like BDSM. I had to Google what that was. I had no idea what BDSM was. Man, I've really been rocking y'all's world with the innuendos the last few days. Husbands have been away, so you've been letting it loose. Now that I know what BDSM means, I've obviously heard of it, but I didn't know of that abbreviation.
00:22:05
Speaker
Yeah, those guys are... This is Chick Foley after dark. Yeah, this is the Patreon version. That's an interesting tag team. And this is a really cool matchup. This was a three-way tag team match to determine the person who would fight someone at another event to then get a first round buy in the tournament in October. Clear as mud.
00:22:31
Speaker
It was clear as mud. Yeah. Um, it was, it was a good match. I thought, um, again, yeah, I love me some, some Luchasaurus. I don't know what it is about him. Like everything about him doesn't seem like it would work. You know what I mean? Like that gimmick would never get over in WWE. I don't think, you know what I mean? Like, I feel like that would be something that would be like totally like a comedy act or like, you know, it just would not happen. Um, but I'm like so into it and W or an AEW, um, but yeah, the dark order and the creepers and all of that, like,
00:23:01
Speaker
It just it just doesn't do it for me. Like I always feel like weirded out every time I see those guys. I'm like, it's like 50 shades of gray. You know, like they're like sitting on men in masks and like, you know, Chippendales outfits. So anyway, yeah, that was that was a really fun match. And then I want to jump right into because like I said, we have so much to freaking talk about. I want to jump into obviously Chris Jericho was just like blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I'm going to be hangman blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I have to be hangman hangman.
00:23:33
Speaker
Yeah, then he had this like, uh, I mean, I'm assuming it's fake blood. I don't know, but it looked, it looked like fake blood. He was like, I have the blood of the hangman on my hands, you know? And it was just such a weird, such a weird promo. It wasn't bad, but it was just like, Oh, come on. You know? Uh, I mean, Jericho always, always delivers on his, on his promos, but I just kind of like rolled my eyes, but
00:23:54
Speaker
Lucha Brothers, I thought that was a fun match. I always enjoy seeing the Lucha Brothers. They're a little promo after the fact. I was just kind of like, that was too much. I didn't need to see all that. But Bucks and the Rhodes Brothers.
00:24:11
Speaker
I thought this match was really interesting because you know just after fighter fest we were talking about how we love seeing the lucha brothers and the young bucks together but like you know it's just it's a spot fest you know what I mean like it's really fast paced it's really high flying nobody really sells anything
00:24:30
Speaker
And then with this match, it was a totally different feel, a totally different vibe. I felt like the young bucks were with Cody and Dustin and it forced them to slow down a little bit and really, really worked the match. I mean, you saw.
00:24:45
Speaker
You know the way they were they were selling in this match that they don't normally do like they were selling the arm and all that stuff Which I thought was was super cool. You know, they did the double sharpshooters and then the double figure four And I just I thought these guys worked really really well together. I mean there was I mean I
00:25:02
Speaker
There was no stakes, you know, so it kind of just made it like, why, why are these guys fighting? Because one, these guys are friends, you know, like, is this, this is just a respect match. Cody took his first loss in AEW. So is that going to count against him? Are we really going to count that? You know, like, I don't know what, what this wins and losses things actually means, but, um, I did enjoy the match and I thought it was, I thought it was overall like excellent.
00:25:26
Speaker
Yeah, it was a good match. I didn't like after the fact that Cody Rhodes still bringing up the fact, you know, poking the bear, bringing up WWE and saying that you can't counter program against us. Oh my God. I was, yeah, that was like the eye roll of the cinch. I'm like, you just gave like this really amazing match. And like now you're just like turning into a Twitter troll, like right before my very eyes, like, come on, dude. Yeah.
00:25:53
Speaker
Yeah, you can't counter program, you know, AEW or whatever the hell he said. Yeah, I have it on good authority that the WWE will be putting NXT on FS1 on Wednesday nights against AEW. So I've heard that from a couple different people now. So if that's the case,
00:26:14
Speaker
Did you hear that from Marco? If you didn't hear from Marco, it's not fact. No, I told Marco to remind me because I knew I'd forget. And he did remind me that that beautiful son of a bitch. He did let me know that that I told him to say that. But yes, I've heard it from a couple of people and I've heard the first show.
00:26:31
Speaker
For AEW is going to be October, whatever that first Wednesday is here, it's going to be in DC. It's going to be here locally. And this might be hot off the press. I don't know if anybody is. This is a rumor I've heard. So this is Wednesday, the second of October. Their first live show is going to be on TNT from Washington, DC on that Wednesday. And so it'll be close to home here. I won't be going.
00:26:59
Speaker
I'd like to see if they sell out whatever arena they're going to be in because they seem to think that they can sell out the Jacksonville Jaguar Stadium. I saw a post. So this is going to be a traveling TV show. Like it's going to go like it's going to just go to different arenas and stuff. Like I don't know why I was under the impression that it was going to be almost like a stationery. It should be. It probably should be. There's no way they're going to be able to fill out 20,000 seat arenas and you know, lunch meets South Dakota.
00:27:29
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think if you stay in Florida, you do a full set type of thing, you'd be perfect. If you stay in Jack Offville, then you're going to be fine. That's what Jericho called it. Yeah, he called it Jerksville, and then he called it Jack Offville. I like that. I like that. Yeah. Is there any chance that you're paying $50 for a AWP review?
00:27:54
Speaker
You probably might. I mean, we will, because we're hardcore Marx like that. I definitely think, I don't know. It depends on the pay-per-view, I guess I should say. I shouldn't say we're going to shell out 50. It depends on how many they have. If they have a $50 pay-per-view every month, I mean, yeah, that's going to be a different story. If it's once every three months, then if they have a paid pay-per-view,
00:28:15
Speaker
uhm once every three months and then give us you know free kind of like you know fighter fest type deals uh in between uhm I'd be down for that but yeah I don't see myself shelling out 50 bucks every month for for an AEW pay per view uhm but if they have their big shows you know I I can definitely see myself purchasing those but
00:28:33
Speaker
Like WWE has just spoiled me. You know what I mean? I'm used to the payment structure for WWE like, you know, like 99 a month like I get everything so yeah I'm definitely spoiled to that and I think a lot of people are so it is it is a little bit of a dollar shock When you're like, holy shit, you know, like I mean $50 like that like that's what you like pay for like a UFC fight You know what I mean? Like you go in and like buy a UFC fight for like 50 60 70 bucks however much they are and Yeah to pay that for
00:29:01
Speaker
for predetermined outcomes in 2019. That's us asking a lot. I wouldn't pay that for WWE pay-per-view. So this is not me bagging on AEW here. Yeah, very true, very true. The network was the best thing to ever happen because I would never be watching as much wrestling as I am now without the WWE network. I wouldn't be, these random pay-per-views now every other month that I don't really care about.
00:29:30
Speaker
Now you're paying for it every month, $9.99. I'll watch every single one of them. Oh, yeah. I literally wrote a paper in college about how the WWE network transformed the way that we view sports entertainment. And yeah, I got A on that paper, by the way. Oh, nice. But yeah, I mean, but that's how I'm packed
00:29:49
Speaker
it is. You know what I mean? Like it legitimately like changed everything about, I mean, not just, not just for WWE. I know we're getting on a little an aside here and we already have a fully packed show, but not just for WWE, but for everybody, everybody's got to kind of step up to that ball. You know what I mean? Or like, you know, step up to that, that, uh, was sort of what I'm looking for. I need Marco here. Step up to the plate. Step up to the plate. That's the expression. Yeah. Step up to the plate, not the ball. You don't step up to the ball. Come on.
00:30:14
Speaker
Oh, come on. Sports references, huh? I guess I'm a female. That's very stereotypical of me, huh? But yeah, so that is your fight for the fallen review recap again. I thought overall it was a good show. It was definitely a good show for free 99.
00:30:31
Speaker
you know, um, a little longer than I anticipated, but, um, I'm liking what I'm seeing from AEW. I'm not going to lie. Um, you know, like I said, if part of it, partially it's my own fault that I don't know who a lot of these people are and where they come from and their backstories and whatnot. But I think as we get weekly television and whatnot, we're gonna, we're gonna see these things develop a little bit more.
00:30:50
Speaker
I like a Tushino, but there's nothing that's shown me that this is going to be a serious contender. This is just something else to watch in addition to WWE. There's no reason WWE should be scared of anything that they're seeing from this company.
00:31:04
Speaker
Yeah. Everything they do looks small. Everything they're doing looks small potatoes. And I don't know if they could be doing that on purpose. They want to just do a smaller scale thing. But this looks like a small little indie show, which is fine. It doesn't have to be a giant WWE show.
00:31:20
Speaker
But it is what it is. I also wrote this down. AwesomeKong, 41 years old. AsiaKong, 48 years old. Christopher Daniels, 49 years old. Chris Jericho is 48 years old. And Dustin Rhodes is 50 years old. So before you tell me that you're tired of watching Shane McMahon and old wrestlers and Undertaker, these are five people that can't even sniff Undertaker's jockstrap that are all over 40, 45 years old. For sure.
00:31:51
Speaker
As much as I have negative things to say about AEW, this is a third show I've watched. I'm still invested. I'm being critical because I want it to do well. It's an alternative. You didn't not watch Extreme Rules because you watched Fight for the Fox.
00:32:07
Speaker
You know what I mean? So it's just, it's just an alternative. It's in addition to, it's just something to give you a different taste in your mouth, you know? Um, and I think, I think that's what they're going to be for, for the foreseeable future. I mean, who knows what can happen in, you know, five, 10 years. Um, but I think as of right now, yeah, it's just, it's, it's just something to give us an alternative, um, something to give us a little bit different style, expose a lot of different people, give a lot more people,
00:32:33
Speaker
Um, a chance, you know, so I'm glad some of these guys are getting their shot in AEW because a lot of these people would never have a shot in WWE, like, you know, to be honest. Um, so for them to be a part of something that's up and coming and trending and, you know, kind of like, you know, in the now, I think is really cool, you know, for a lot of these people who otherwise, you know, wouldn't wouldn't be known at all.
00:32:54
Speaker
All right, let's switch over to Extreme Rules, which is on Sunday, and a show that was much better than I thought it was going to be,
Extreme Rules Highlights
00:33:02
Speaker
Sheena. Before we get into the actual card, a couple hours before showtime, we get the announcement that there would be an intercontinental match on the kickoff show, Finn Balor versus Nakamura, which I
00:33:14
Speaker
love this announcement. This would be the biggest match in AEW history and Vince McMahon flexes his muscle and puts this five-star caliber match on a pre-show of a throwaway pay-per-view.
00:33:30
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, you know, I think I think a lot of people were really shook and a lot of people really had strong feelings about this being on the pre show. But dude, what you have to understand about these these pre shows is that these are these are shown to a wider audience. You know what I mean? Like these pre shows are shown to a lot more people. And it's like it's.
00:33:50
Speaker
It's an incredible match to get people hooked into watching the show. You don't want your pre-show match to be a freaking throwaway or a dud. You want something that's going to get people hyped and get people excited and set the tone for the night.
00:34:05
Speaker
You know, um, and I think people get their panties in a wad because you know, the, the, oh, why are the revival on the pre-show or why is, you know, Shinsuke and Finn on the pre-show? But I mean, to me, the pre-show is part of the show. You know what I mean? Do you watch, do you like watch the show at home and think, Oh my God, it's on the pre-show. Like why did we get, I don't give a shit if it's on the pre-show. I I'm watching the match just as if it's part of extremely.
00:34:30
Speaker
What does it make a difference to you what part of the show that it's on like I don't understand why people get so bit out of shape
00:34:37
Speaker
for that. You know what I mean? I've never understood it, and I think it's really a misunderstood concept. So I thought it was awesome. Like you said, it was just kind of announced. And this is like one of those... It's a dream matchup, right? You love to see Shinsuke and Finn together. Why are we complaining about seeing these two guys wrestle on a show that it wasn't even going to be booked on?
00:35:00
Speaker
Well, they don't care. This doesn't hurt their feelings. If anything, these guys get to then leave and go to the next town and get in bed early for Raw the next day. They're not complaining that they're on the pre-show. They don't give a shit. Hell no. And you know what's really cool about this is that Shinsuke beat Finn Balor and took the icy title. So you know what that tells me for the next pay-per-view? I'm going to be like, well, damn.
00:35:26
Speaker
They need a title change on the last pre-show. Maybe I should tune into, like make it a priority to watch the pre-show on the next show because anything can happen, right? Like if, you know, if you just do your pre-show, your pre-show matches as like throwaways and nothing happens and nothing's exciting, like, you know, yeah, maybe people aren't going to be interested in people are just going to wait for the show to, you know, because it's already like a long, going to be a long night of wrestling. They may just tune out of the pre-show.
00:35:50
Speaker
But if you're doing title changes and exciting stuff and like, you know, people are making, you know, comebacks and pre-show matches and stuff like that's going to get people to tune in. You know what I mean? Um, and that was exciting. And I thought it was super cool. Not that I wanted Finn Balor to lose the icy title, but I mean, I think it's cool that Nakamura is going to have an icy title run, right?
00:36:08
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, I'm in some fresh matchups. And I think it sounds like Finn Balor's going to go on a little bit of a vacay after SummerSlam with a couple of month breaks. Yeah, I heard a really cool. So when we get to Monday Night Raw, I've heard a really cool fan theory about Finn that I'm super excited about.
00:36:27
Speaker
Oh, nice. Cool. Yeah. I don't want to go into every single match here. I want to touch on my favorite matches. And the match I was the least looking forward to was Bobby Lashley versus Braun Strowman. And man, this was a fun goddamn match. They were all over the arena. Strowman looked good. Lashley looked good. I mean, this was not like a slow-mo, like forearm, forearm, punch, kick match. I mean, they were going at it.
00:36:55
Speaker
Yeah, Strowman looks good. I don't know. People always talk about how his knees are bad. He got some new knees like Forrest Gump or something. Yeah, he had some wheels, man. And they were all over the arena. The last spot, if you haven't seen it, is worth going back and watching. A fan put it on Twitter like kind of a different angle. And they crashed off of the second mezzanine level. But what were your thoughts on this match? Did you feel the same way?
00:37:22
Speaker
I was shocked, man. I mean, I know. Listen, if you guys have been listening to the show for any amount of time, you've probably heard me bag on Stroman and Lashley.
00:37:33
Speaker
A lot, you know, um, and really, really just be like, what the hell and get these guys off my screen. Like, you know, Stroman needs a break, you know, Lashley's boring, blah, blah, blah, blah. Um, and whenever, you know, these guys had that moment on raw and I was like, okay, like this was really cool. Like this was a moment that I wasn't expecting. And then to have this match on extreme rules that I was like.
00:37:53
Speaker
Like you said, I was kind of just taken aback by the intensity and how good it was. I thought it was a lot of fun to watch. I mean, like I said, I'm kind of speechless because this was one of those matches that if I was at the stadium, I would have been like, oh, this is time to go get some popcorn. You know what I mean? Go pee. But I think a lot of people were really, really surprised by the outcome of this.
00:38:20
Speaker
For sure. The one thing I wish they would have added, do you remember when they were up on like the concourse and they had like, there must have been like a store that was like barricaded off. You know how they put like the plywood up and says like excuse our master or something. What if they made like a paper mache wall and they would have just like crashed through that. Like I was thinking like a family guy when Peter Griffin's fighting the chicken and they're just like going all over the place. Like that would have been awesome just to have them like.
00:38:47
Speaker
Crashing through walls and just like wrecking shit even you know yeah even more so I mean even though they I mean they did a ton they were they were all over the place, but This this was a cool match a fun match is perfect for this night
00:38:59
Speaker
Yes, and another, let me tell you, one of my favorite moments of the night was Alistair Black versus Cesaro. And after I talked shit about Cesaro last week in his mouth guard, and let me be clear, I knew this was gonna be like a fun match to watch. I knew this was gonna be a great match between two great competitors. Cesaro still doesn't do it for me. I mean, if you saw his, I guess it was on SmackDown when he came out and he was like, I want to pick,
00:39:28
Speaker
a fight with Alistair, you know what I mean? It was just like, it was so weird and like, I hated it. Yeah. Um, but, uh, the match that they had at extreme rules was in, was insane. I mean, it was just, it was so good. Um, I mean, like he got the upper cuts in, they got the black mass in like, it was just like,
00:39:49
Speaker
It was just everything you wanted out of these two guys, you know? And even though we knew, you know, it was going to be good, there was no stakes. You know, it was one of those matches like they just wanted because they had had so much build up around Aleister Black. They wanted him to have a really good match on his like re debut into into the, you know, the main roster and whatnot. So they put him against Cesaro. Cesaro didn't lose anything by losing to Aleister Black, right? Like he still looks strong. He still looked great.
00:40:19
Speaker
Um, but I'm ready. Like, I don't want this to be like a long term ongoing thing because the sorrow just doesn't do it for me. Like, yeah, maybe like have a couple more fights on Ron smackdown, but like, don't carry this through summer slam. You know what I mean?
00:40:31
Speaker
I think this black mass could be RKO 2.0. I think this is a move that you could be able to, you can do this move to anybody and he can hit this whenever and it could be one of those things that, you know, the RKO is so fun when he hits it and this could be something similar. So I love that about Hollister Black. I mean, like you said, Cesaro looked good. It was just a fun match and just like, you know, just
00:40:56
Speaker
balls of the wall, just two guys going at it that, you know, two of the, probably the best top five workers in the, in the game and the company going at it. And I think they'll probably stretch it out a little bit, but I'm interested to see what Alistair Black does from here. Where does he, where does he go? Um, do you see, I mean him versus Nakamura would just be, you know, a dream match for the, for the belt. I don't know if he's ready for that yet, but, um, that would be fun.
00:41:20
Speaker
Yeah, I think it would be a lot of fun and I think it's I think it's one of those things like if he went against if he went against Nakamura and he he didn't win. It's again. It's one of those things where I don't feel like Alistair Black is going to lose anything by losing to Nakamura because I know those guys would put on incredible matches and it would just be. They would beat the hell out of each other and wouldn't. It wouldn't neither one of them would come out worse on the other side so.
00:41:42
Speaker
Um, I thought that was an awesome match, uh, even though it didn't again, no stakes on either of these matches that were two of our, two of our favorites. So, um, we undertaker, I thought looked really good. I was very surprised. I mean, I knew he wanted to come out and kind of like, you know, get wipe that, um, that taste out of our mouth from a super showdown and not super showdown. It was a super showdown. That was the name of it was. Yeah.
00:42:06
Speaker
I think so. Yeah. Let's just call it the Saudi shows. All those Saudi shows just run together. But yeah, he wanted to wipe that Goldberg mess out of our freaking, you know, memories. And I thought he did a really good job. He, you know, hit Shane with that damn choke slam. And I mean, you know, looks pretty damn good. I mean, I don't know if Shane gave him a lot of help and jumped really high, but, you know, he barely got Goldberg off the ground. I mean, obviously like they're two totally different sized men.
00:42:33
Speaker
Um, but still athletes in that regard, but uh, yeah, it looked really good.
00:42:39
Speaker
I love seeing, uh, Undertaker and McIntyre standing face to face. I don't remember the last time McIntyre won a goddamn match, but man, they could do something with this guy and they're not, which is frustrating. I mean, I liked how Shane took the pin, which was good, but, uh, I think McIntyre lost the next night on raw to Cedric Alexander. I don't know if they haven't any idea what they're doing with him and they, they have a monster heel here waiting in the wings with him. Yeah. I think it's just one of those things. Like he's.
00:43:08
Speaker
he's just caught in this freaking Shane, Shane O'Mac vortex. You know what I mean? Like he's part of, and, and Shane is everywhere right now. Have you noticed that? I mean, before it was like, yeah, he's just getting a lot of TV time, but now I feel like he's like involved in like 10 different fields. Like what, like, what is he not involved in? You know, he's involved in Kevin Owens and like Roman Reigns and you know, Undertaker and I'm just like,
00:43:32
Speaker
What the hell? Probably still Miz. There's probably still some Miz resentment in there somewhere. And I'm like, oh my god. Like, geez. Elias and Lashley and Corbin. Like, you know, whenever they have a feud, it's like, you know, you throw him in there. And it's just, yeah, very uncohesive. Yeah, it's pretty crazy how intertwined Shane is into the WWE right now. But yeah, so I enjoyed that match. I thought it was pretty good.
00:44:01
Speaker
We can get into the main event of the night was, you know, the tag team match between freaking
00:44:11
Speaker
Seth and Becky and Lacey and Baron Corbin um overall it was a it was an okay match nothing that was like super crazy i thought they did a good job i mean i was i was sports entertained if you will but um i i definitely popped when Becky took the end of days i was not expecting that at all and like you know he really
00:44:32
Speaker
laid it on her too. It wasn't like, you know, like he was doing it to a girl and he like, he like smashed her head into the ring and I thought it was, I thought it was excellent. Then he turned around and I don't know if he like knew that the camera was on his face or what, but he called Seth like a piece of shit right there on the, on the screen. He was like, what are you going to do about it? You piece of shit. And I was like, Oh my God, you know, like this is getting real.
00:44:55
Speaker
So I really enjoyed that match obviously up until the end when Brock cashed in and we have a brand new universal champion.
00:45:06
Speaker
Uh, you missed the part where they zoomed in on Lacey Evans. Oh my God. I totally forgot about that. Yeah. I thought that I was like, I wonder if that cameraman's going to get fired. And then I remembered, I was like, Oh, we're leaving the PG era behind. Like this was, this was probably perfectly, you know, choreographed. Yeah, this is good shit. Get up in there. Get up in there.
00:45:30
Speaker
I mean, she looked good. I mean, I'm not going to lie, but I was just like, holy guacamole. I feel like I'm doing a medical exam up in here. You know what I mean? Yeah, they definitely, on this show, they definitely showed some signs of pushing to the PG-13, which I'm fine with. It's all good. Yeah.
00:45:49
Speaker
yeah i'm totally cool with that um i i was listening to a show a little bit um earlier on in the week and they were talking about um you know this guy was he was like you know i'm totally cool with him pushing the boundaries or whatever but he's like now it's getting to a point where i'm like i don't know if i'm comfortable with my kid watching anymore you know what i mean and i can totally see that you know as a parent like there's a lot of stuff that's
00:46:10
Speaker
being discussed i mean you know like uh maria canella's telling mike that she wants becky to impregnate her and you know the the camera shots and them saying you know bitch and you know the the whole like piece of shit and all that stuff on on air all the time i'm like
00:46:27
Speaker
I guess I guess I could see that granted. I mean I was watching like way crazier stuff when I was like a kid, but You know as a parent now. I'm like what I let Brett watch that. I don't know you know It's like go go one more the other you know like go go PGA or go all the way to the attitude or this like half in between I mean I don't know if they even have a show like this on Saturday or Sunday mornings it just kind of recaps raw with just you know I
00:46:51
Speaker
Just the matches and none of like the promo stuff and that would well they have yeah They have this week in WWE on the network, you know, and it like it literally recaps everything that kind of happened in the previous week But uh, yeah, it's um, you know, like I said, it's pushing the boundaries which I like, you know I like it to be a little bit more edgy and edgier product But again, yeah, you are toting that fine line where it's like well, you know like I have kids that I'm taking to this show and you know, I think kids are
00:47:19
Speaker
a lot of times drive merch sales for like these big stars. I mean like New Day and like John Cena and all those people at Roman Reigns. People like that that like have like humongous merch sales. Like I mean I think a lot of that is driven by by like the younger audience. You know what I mean? I agree. Our buddy Marco says they should partner with Hostess and make Lazy Cakes.
00:47:42
Speaker
Lacey cake. So they could be like, um, they can be patriotic, like red, white, red, white and blue. Um, but yeah, so, you know, we have Brock. Um, where do you think this is going? Cause obviously we, we, you know, knowing what we know now on raw, they're just rolling it back and having Rollins Matt rematch with him on summer slam. I don't know if that's just to give Rollins like a definitive baby face win because you know, the last time he won, it was kind of like, that's the same thing I was thinking out.
00:48:08
Speaker
He, he'll tactics, you know, like they want him to be a true baby face. Um, you know, he was kind of doing low blows and stuff at WrestleMania, um, and chair shots and whatnot. So maybe they just want to give him like a definitive baby face win. And if they do that, like I'm okay with that. But if it's, if it's a Brock run, like it was the previous run, I'm going to be like, Oh my God, why are we doing this again? You know?
00:48:33
Speaker
Yeah, it's definitely an interesting dynamic. And I think I'm with you. The first thing I thought of, they must want to kind of restart. This title run is not going the way they probably wanted to. And it's probably because he's faced off against Baron Corbin 500 times. But why even put it on Brock just to take it off of him? I don't know. But we knew he was going to catch him. Because Brock is a draw.
00:48:59
Speaker
you know,
00:49:14
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know. I can see. I was hoping someone else would get that shine. I mean, you have that battle roy. You can you can throw someone else in there and build, you know, put big men. I'd love to see a biggie versus Brock Lesnar match it, you know, somewhere down the line.
00:49:29
Speaker
Yeah, that would be super cool. I thought I thought for a long time. I mean, he'll husband and I have talked about this countless times about how how Biggie is very, very overdue for just like a singles run. Even if it's not a championship, you know, main event run like just just for him to go on his own and have a singles run. Obviously I don't want to live in a world where new day or broken up. I love the new day, but you know, I do think that it is time for you know biggie to kind of like.
00:49:57
Speaker
leave the nest and try to do some stuff on his own. But yeah, Biggie and Brock would be awesome.
00:50:05
Speaker
Yeah, this was a better card than I thought it was gonna be. It led into an interesting Raw and SmackDown, the biggest news of the night from Raw. Anything else you wanna touch on from Extreme Rules before we move on?
Raw and SmackDown Recap
00:50:17
Speaker
I'm sorry. No, I mean, we basically like Tyler Breeze right through that because we have some amazing matches that we didn't even touch on, but we have so much to cover tonight. I mean, we got Ricochet and AJ Styles that we didn't touch on, KO and Dolph Ziggler.
00:50:29
Speaker
Um, Joe and Kofi, like, I mean, there was so much on this card that was, that was really good. Um, and I thought extreme rules, I thought extreme rules overall was a really, really fun, really awesome pay per view. So that's my, that's my overall take on it. Um, I just wanted to touch on some of the matches, but yeah, getting in really quickly to, to raw and smack down. Um, Marco wants to jump in real quick. Marco, what you got, dude? Um, just real quick. Um, so on the last time I was on the show,
00:50:57
Speaker
We all picked who would keep their title longer. I'm pretty sure I picked Kofi Kingston. You guys picked that one. So I won that one, I think. Oh, man. Look, Marco's been keeping stats longer than we even knew. I know, right? He's been preparing for this job. I've been waiting for this.
00:51:17
Speaker
single moment. Yeah, you definitely picked Kofi and I was like, no, Seth is definitely keeping it longer. So, yeah. Yeah. In a quick factoid, he's had a longer list of opponents than Seth has. His only opponent that he's faced was Brock Lesnar, essentially.
00:51:37
Speaker
for his title, and Kofi Kingston's had every pay-per-view a different opponent, essentially. Oh, that's true. Yeah. True. Yeah, besides Baron Corbin. Yeah, Brock Lesnar and Baron Corbin, that's pretty much been it. But yeah. Yeah, good call on that. Good shot. All right. What's the biggest thing from Raw? I will let you take the ball with and run.
00:52:00
Speaker
I mean, the biggest thing on Raw is, uh, the freaking, the fiend making his debut. Finally, I was gobsmacked. Like I just, I mean, it's one of those things. So here, here's my whole take on this.
00:52:16
Speaker
You know, I had been bitching for the last few weeks about like, why are they not doing this? Like, why didn't they do it at Extreme Rules? Why didn't they do it before that? You know, like all of these different things, because the Firefly Funhouse had so much momentum, you know, and then then the Firefly Funhouse stopped happening. And then we just started seeing, you know, Mercy the Buzzard and, you know, Ramblin Rabbit and what's the pig's name? Oh, man.
00:52:42
Speaker
Husky, is it Huskus? Huskus, the pig, I think is his name. We started seeing them in little backstage segments, you know, but it kind of, it kind of just lost its, you know, it kind of just lost its fire a little bit. And, um, you know, we had all kind of just been like, well, damn, you know, here, here goes another thing that they're, that they're not going to capitalize on. And then like all of a sudden he shows up in the middle of the ring with Finn. Um, and it was just, it was incredible. Like I loved everything about it. And part of me is like,
00:53:11
Speaker
is like they, I feel like they did this on purpose, but I'm like, I don't know if WWE has that much foresight, you know, like they wanted us to forget so that when he did show up, that it was like, it was way more impactful, you know, um, versus like, had he shown up right after he did the, you know, the muscle man dance, we would have all been like, you know, Oh, well, we expected him to show up, you know, like, so I think it was, it was very smart how they did it if they intended to do it that way. And this like gets him right in the mix.
00:53:40
Speaker
to roll into one of the biggest shows of the year.
00:53:45
Speaker
Yeah, when's the last time we had a debut like this that wasn't hyped up, or we knew about a week's in advance, or it wasn't bleach report reports, or USA Today reports that blah, blah, blah is coming back this week. It was a great moment, which we don't get too much in the internet era these days. Oh, yeah. They would have been on WWE.com. Oh, The Fiend is making his debut on Raw tonight. Tune in for The Fiend.
00:54:12
Speaker
Yeah, that's how I anticipated it being. But yeah, like you said, it was the total opposite. And I loved it. And I need more of this in my life. I need more surprise debuts and reveals and all this stuff. So I thought it was awesome. I pose this question on Instagram stories. And I'm curious to get your thoughts.
00:54:35
Speaker
So he came out in this mask and the mask appears to be like, you know one-piece mask and the eyes Somebody tried to convince me that those were his eyes with contacts in them But to me looking at all the up close photos, it looks like the eyes are actually built into the mask. So I
00:54:51
Speaker
I don't know what his level of visibility is out of this thing. Like how the hell he sees out of this thing or what, what the technology is or whatever. But so is he, is he going to wrestle in the mask? Um, or is it like something like he's going to take off, you know, when he, when he gets in the ring, um, is he going to be doing backstage segments and promos in this? Like, I can't imagine the fiend doing like backstage segments with like, you know, Charlie Caruso or something, right? Like I feel like it's going to be more of that kind of like boiler room or I guess the Firefly Funhouse, he'll be in the Firefly Funhouse.
00:55:20
Speaker
Um, doing his, doing his promo was just like kind of prerecorded. Is that what you think? Like, what do you think? Is he going to wrestle in the mask? Not in the mask. Is he going to be the fiend all the time? Are we going to see the firefly fun house? Mr. Rogers, Bray, how do you think all this is going to like be laid out?
00:55:36
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know. I don't think he's going to wrestle in the mask. I think it would be too hard. I don't think those are contacts, but I could be wrong. Tell that to every luchador. Yeah, yeah, true. Yeah, I guess you could. I mean, it's not like a fabric mask. It definitely has some dimension to it. But I would love for him to come on Raw next week and just be backstage, just apologize. Be the Mr. Rogers character and just be like,
00:56:02
Speaker
Totally totally remorseful and like hey, man, I'm sorry. I don't know what happened last week blah blah blah blah blah You know and you know and he's kind of like Genius. Yeah, like those are two different peas like just playing two different characters
00:56:16
Speaker
Like Dr. Jekyll, Mr. Hyde. Yeah. Oh, I totally, I totally liked that. Um, somebody has said, so this is a fan theory that, um, I had been reading and heard on, on a couple of podcasts was that, um, and it makes so much sense because we've been clamoring for Finn baller to join the club. Right. But as it, as it stands right now, like, I mean, he, he would have to turn heel, like pretty much a turn mega heel for him to, to join the club.
00:56:40
Speaker
Um, but so he lost his title to Nakamura. That's like a, you know, that's a knock on his confidence. He's already like down and out. Now he's in this feud with the fiend. Um, and I think like if he, obviously the fiend's not going to lose at SummerSlam, like spoiler alert, like, you know, breaking, breaking kayfabe here. Like there's no way that the fiend is going to lose his first match. Right. Um, but I'm assuming it's going to be fiend versus demon. The demon has never lost. Like the demon is undefeated.
00:57:08
Speaker
So to me, I feel like if the demon finally loses, like I heard, like they were talking about, if the demon finally loses, that could be what breaks Finn Balor, right? And then he takes his vacation. He takes his time off that he's been requesting. You know, obviously he could just take it like on kayfabe. He could just take it as like a leave of absence. You know, like he, he got so broken up by, you know, the fiend that he has to take time off.
00:57:31
Speaker
Um, but then he comes back and he's like mega heel fin and he joins forces with the club because he's just got a whole new outlook because you know, the demon is obviously not his, his power anymore. You know,
00:57:44
Speaker
That would be cool. I could see that happening. Marco says that he did wear a mask in NXT. I don't remember that. Bray Wyatt wore a mask? Oh, he wore like the butchers, like the Phantom of the Opera type of mask. Oh, yeah. Like a Rip Hamilton nose guard protector type of mask. I just pulled it up. I just googled Bray Wyatt NXT. So yeah, I mean, that's kind of like just a basic version of it.
00:58:14
Speaker
I mean, I could see it. Maybe they just have a separate one that just has the eyes cut out for when he wrestles. WWE has plenty of money to make two different masks. So I think you're gonna lose something if he does take the mask off when he's that character.
00:58:29
Speaker
I feel like he has to have the mask. I mean, that's where all the lore and like the mystery and like a mystique, all that comes from is from that man. And that's where all the freaking terror comes from too. Like nobody wants to be in the ring with that. You know what I mean? Like, you know, me, I'm a freaking, you know, horror loving, not horror, horror.
00:58:50
Speaker
That's what it sounded like, but OK. A horror-loving chick. And even myself, I get the heebie jeebies when I see that mask. So yeah, that is definitely not anything I want standing across the ring from me about to whoop my ass, you know what I mean? So I am all for the fiend. I hope he has an incredible run with Ben. I hope he has a title run in the future. I think it's super cool. I'm there for it.
00:59:19
Speaker
he looked like him in badass shape so yeah he looks good yeah it's pretty amazing whenever um you know these guys get time off they can actually like you know do real training like i feel like when they're training on the road i mean they're not getting any sleep they're probably eating a lot of crap you know and they're just working out you know just just to
00:59:38
Speaker
say in some semblance of shape but they're not like you know lifting heavy or doing any sort of like hardcore training regimens unless you're like CrossFit Jesus like Seth Rollins but um but yeah that was pretty much all you know and it's not all that happened on on raw but that was to me like that was the big the big moment that that happened on raw the thing that really you know meant the most and is gonna have the most uh stakes in going in the future Natalia is gonna face Becky Lynch
01:00:04
Speaker
Um, that was one of the worst matches I've ever seen. I don't blame the crowd at all. Yes. I don't blame the crowd at all for booing that shit. It was too long. It was boring. It was awful.
01:00:22
Speaker
Yeah, it was not, it was not my favorite match. And I actually like most, I actually like all four women in this match. Um, but yeah, it was not my favorite moment for any, for any of these women. I don't know. I don't know what, um, what the deal was. Um, but Natalia did come out on top. I would, I mean, you know, me, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a mark for anything heart related. So, um, I was excited to see Natalia and Natalia is,
01:00:46
Speaker
She's, she's great in the ring. We know she's technically one of the best female wrestlers, but she just doesn't have any relevance right now. So it did kind of feel out of place. It felt just kind of like, what the hell? They're just pulling Natty out of like, out of where, you know what I mean? Like they've had her backstage doing nothing.
01:01:04
Speaker
And then now all of a sudden she's gonna be, again, one of the biggest pay-per-views of the year fighting one of the biggest stars in WWE. You know what I'm happy for? I'm happy for her to have that moment. But it does kind of seem a little bit disjointed like I was kind of taken aback by it.
01:01:24
Speaker
Becky's promo, you know, cause I, you know, I know they were like, you know, quote unquote friends or whatever, and they may be real life friends. I don't know. Um, but you know, Becky real quick was just like, listen, like, you know, you may think I'm your friend, but when you come from my title, like there's no friendship, you know? Um, then Natalia had that cringy line about, you know, you know, call her, call her a bitch and you know whatnot, but yeah. Um, I'm excited to see it. A lot of people were really crapping on it. Um, but you know,
01:01:53
Speaker
I'm not going to crap on Italian. No, I've crapped on her enough on this show. I did like that Alexa Bliss the next day or the next night was tweeted out like, so disrespectful. That's all she said was so disrespectful. If the fans want to boo, they can boo. They're not hurling batteries at you or anything.
01:02:17
Speaker
it really wasn't the fault of anybody in the ring it was just poorly laid out it was like three commercial three commercial breaks in it which i've heard from a lot of people that now during some of the matches they stop they almost stop the match during the commercial break well yet they don't they don't they don't wrestle during commercial breaks anymore that's why we've had so many two out of three falls matches or you have the split screen ad breaks
01:02:39
Speaker
where it's you know the the wrestling is still happening uh look while the while the commercial is on but yeah they'll do two out of three falls matches just just so they don't do wrestling during ad breaks which i think is so weird you know i i don't i don't i don't like it i don't know what the real purpose is for it um or why it was so detrimental but you know who knows um the 24 seven championship uh this is the last thing i'm gonna touch on on um
01:03:04
Speaker
Rob, but I did love Drake Maverick. I thought he was great in this segment checking into the hotel as the 24 seven champion. I just thought he was just incredible. So, um, I, I love Drake Maverick as the 24 seven champion. And honestly, you know, I was all about our truth and I'm like, you know what? I'm team. I'm team Drake still hasn't sealed the deal, man. I feel bad for me. He's had to hear that.
01:03:26
Speaker
He came to Comic Con and said he still hasn't consummated his marriage. Yeah, he was at Comic Con today with Zach and Kurt and said he has not married. Yeah. Oh, man. They've done a really great job. Hopefully, they've signed that wife of his to some sort of deal. I mean, she's got to be getting paid, I would assume. Just real quickly on the fiend, how amazing is that elite figure going to be when they make that?
01:03:50
Speaker
Oh, man. Oh, my God. I don't care how crappy the gimmick ends up being or how amazing the gimmick ends up being. But like that elite is going to be so dope. Like I cannot freaking wait. Like, oh, my God. They have to be working on it right now, I would assume. Right.
01:04:06
Speaker
I would think so. I mean, Jesus, like it has to, and I hope they do a Firefly Funhouse Bray too, like a Mr. Rogers Bray. That would be an awesome two pack. Oh, that would be an awesome two pack. They should just do a Firefly Funhouse pack and he could come with the accessories. Like he could come with Ramblin Rabbit. He could come with, you know, Mercy, the Buzzard and Abby, the Witch and you know, all of those. I thought that would be super, super cool. Like a box set that looks like the Funhouse and have both versions of, um,
01:04:35
Speaker
of Bray Wyatt like that would be super dope. The MVP Marco Denton is telling me we're over an hour here. Anything we want to touch on from SmackDown before we get into the San Diego Comic Con 2019?
01:04:47
Speaker
Nothing crazy from SmackDown. Ember Moon is gonna be facing Bayley at SummerSlam. It just kind of got announced, which I thought was really strange. Bayley was just like, let me pick my contender. So they fought, Ember and Bayley fought Mandy Rose and Sonya Deville. And they beat them obviously. And then after the match, she came up, I can't remember which one of the little chicks came up and was talking to Bayley.
01:05:12
Speaker
and she said you know have you thought about what you're gonna do for summer slam and blah blah blah and who your contenders gonna be and ember moon standing right there and she's like yeah you know um i've been really thinking about somebody who respects the business and somebody who will respect this title and you know and then ember moon's like looking like is it me is it me
01:05:32
Speaker
And then, you know, she announces that it is Amber and I was like, Oh my God, this was like the worst. Like they could have like had like a number one contenders, you know, tournament over the next couple of weeks or something, something to drag this out. But yeah, instead she just announced happy for Amber for the moment and getting her opportunity, but.
01:05:47
Speaker
I thought it was lame. Uh, next thing, uh, Daniel Bryan went on this big, like, like social media saying he was going to have this career altering announcement and whatnot. Um, and literally came out and said nothing, which I thought was super lame, super bait and switch, very WWE. I don't know what, what it was supposed to mean, what it's going to mean for the future. I thought it was just.
01:06:11
Speaker
like lame. I hated it. I totally miss this. Where did he like walk to the ring and just stand there and then just drop the mic or no, he, he walked to the ring. So he came out, um, he act like he was going to say something. Then he walked to the back and then everybody was like, what the hell? Then he came back out.
01:06:29
Speaker
and act like he was gonna say something and he just dropped the mic and then walked to the back. So it was very strange. I don't know what the purpose was, what it means, or what he's gonna tell us it means next week on Raw.
01:06:45
Speaker
or on SmackDown, but yeah, it was super lame. I felt like it was just an easy ploy for WWE to get people to continue watching, to keep their ratings up. And breaking kayfabe, that was to me, I'm like, that was such a bait and switch, like you assholes. Also, Kevin Owens comes out and he continues fighting with Shane McMahon, cuts more promos on him. And the only thing I wanna say about this segment is that,
01:07:14
Speaker
Shane McMahon is what? Probably taken like.
01:07:17
Speaker
how many stunners in his lifetime. You know, besides probably like the rock and Vince McMahon, he's probably taken the third most amount of stunners, wouldn't you say? Um, and he completely botched this stunner with Kevin Owens. Like I went on my Instagram stories and I was like, did you guys see like, I cannot, like stone cold is going to be shaking his head. Like, you know, Kevin hit him, you know, kicked him and then having kicked him in the stomach pretty hard. I think that's what happened.
01:07:47
Speaker
You think he like shoot kicked him? I think, well, maybe, yeah, just by accident, just knocked the wind at him. Cause he went down to like both knees, right? Yeah. Yeah. He like fell to his knees and then, and then, you know, K.O. went to like, you know, stun him and he was like, no one was home, you know? And he was just like, oh, so he picks shame back up and then stuns him. And I was like, Oh my God. Like,
01:08:08
Speaker
That was so, so bad. I'm surprised that never happened in the Attitude Era because, I mean, Austin was kicking everybody right in the gut. I mean, I guess he must have had it down to a science because, I mean, you get kicked in the stomach, man. Your natural instinct is just to double over in pain.
01:08:25
Speaker
you can you can double over i mean doubling over is the point you double over so that he can grab your head and you know it's stun you but shane dropped down you know what i'm saying like shane like went ahead and dropped down to his knees like as if he had already gotten stunned you know what i mean like he he he jumped the gun on the stun um and that's what that's what made it so weird um but he jumped the gun on the stun he did
01:08:49
Speaker
And then when they showed the replay, they didn't show that part, which was, I thought was funny. Yeah. I was like, Oh yeah. You guys cut the part out where he totally like botched the stunner. Um, but yeah, that's totally, that's totally like, you know, nitpicking and whatnot. But I was just like, I was like, come on, Shane, like, dude, you've taken a bajillion stunners. Like what the hell? You know?
01:09:08
Speaker
But yeah, we will move on. We'll be talking more about this SummerSlam build up and everything like that as the weeks progress and this card kind of shakes out. But I'm super pumped for SummerSlam. It's one of my favorite events of the year. I just love it. So super excited to see how everything shakes out.
01:09:27
Speaker
It's always one of my favorites, too. It always feels like, even back in the day, it felt like a really big, you know, you were still a ways away from WrestleMania, but this was kind of a good placeholder. I do want to give a shout out to one of the funniest tweets of all time. Hashtag, at hashtag wrestling, quote tweeted, it was an article from 411 Wrestling, it said, Sean Spears was impressed with Cesaro's work against Aleister Black at Extreme Rules, and this guy, hashtag wrestling, tweeted it,
01:09:55
Speaker
Quote, local high school quarterback thinks Tom Brady has a lot of potential.
01:10:01
Speaker
I was like, that's so perfect. Why is Ty Dillinger commenting on a match from Extreme Rules is the big question. That is so funny. He probably gets scold from Cody for doing that. I guarantee it, yeah. Yeah.
San Diego Comic-Con Revelations
01:10:15
Speaker
So over the last couple of days, we've seen the beginnings of Sandy O'Comicon, which, if you're not familiar with, is a huge nerd fest where everybody from. If you don't know what Comic Con is, why are you listening to this? Yeah, good point. Good point. Keep listening, though. Keep listening.
01:10:31
Speaker
Don't turn us off now. Yeah, basically a giant convention of comic book movies, TVs, wrestling, everything under the sun as far as pop culture. And Mattel uses this as an opportunity to unveil a bunch of new stuff. And boy, did we ever get a ton of new things. And before we get into everything else, on a personal note, we haven't gotten any word about the retro figures.
01:11:01
Speaker
and text from people pretty bummed about it. They had the entire presentation today of stuff coming out, kind of like graphics and pictures. There was nothing there. The retro set, and it seems like a lot of people are in the same boat, is what really got me back into collecting.
01:11:16
Speaker
And if they do cancel it, I'm going to be pretty damn bummed. I think they were awesome. I think the distribution was pretty shitty. I don't think you can get them. I still haven't seen either nine or 10 in stores. And eight was only in stores for just a hot second. I bought the only set that I saw.
01:11:34
Speaker
I don't I don't know. I feel like they cancel stuff a little bit too fast for my liking. But yeah, I do, too. I feel like that's going to happen with the Ultimate Editions, too. I feel like that's going to be one of those things that like it might be we might get a couple more series of that and then it's going to it's going to fall off. Mattel is notorious for.
01:11:52
Speaker
You know, just like canceling these, these lines, but yeah, I'm pretty bummed about the retro too. And I don't even collect retros, but I know how much they mean to so, to so many people, you know, and, and the heel husband is a huge, huge Hasbro mark. Um, and you know, I think, uh, I think they, they just bring back those nostalgia fields for so many people.
01:12:10
Speaker
Yeah, they were done really well. They had a great mix of current guys and former guys. We got some people that we never got with the Hasbro's. Hopefully, it sounds like someone tweeted out that they spoke to Steve from Mattel and he said it's just going to be on hold for the time being. I don't really like the sound of that. It just doesn't seem like they're going to continue with it.
01:12:34
Speaker
I feel like every time I listen to the Major Brothers, every time they read off the ringside top 10, those retro figures are always up there pretty high. People on social media have been clamoring for them. We get a lot of hits from our shows when we talk about them. So we'll see what happens. That's the one negative part that I've had.
01:12:54
Speaker
And I think I've talked about it on this show. I had a feeling. I mean, we haven't seen the last couple series in stores. And usually Ringside is doing unveilings of elite series and basic series well in advance of Comic-Con. And we didn't get those with any retros. So if it's the last, I mean, they did 10. So it's a good even number. But I'm hoping they end up doing more. So we'll see.
01:13:20
Speaker
If it is the end, um, who, who out there would you have wanted to see that you did not get to see, like, who would you be your most wanted that, that did not get released in the retro series? Oh, somebody that, somebody that doesn't already have a Hasbro figure. Oh, that's tough. That's tough. Maybe. Can I do a Hollywood Hogan? Can I do, um, can I do him? I mean, that's kind of kind of there. It's a, it's a Jace. Yeah, it's yeah. You could, you could do that.
01:13:49
Speaker
I think
01:14:08
Speaker
Yeah. I don't know. I guess maybe not a missed opportunity. I don't know what the market is out there for, for female, uh, retros or, you know, has bros or anything like that. But, uh, yeah, that I can't believe there was not a single female retro figure, uh, in the series 10, speaking of series 10, um, I was supposed to mail those to you like freaking forever ago and you know, life is just kicking my ass right now. So just let me know before you do, cause I've been like, keep an eye out for him.
01:14:36
Speaker
Yeah, I have I have a complete series 10 in in the protector cases for you So, uh, those those are headed those are headed your way, uh sooner rather than later But man, we have so much to talk I I don't even know I wasn't even making a list today because i'm like we're gonna forget Some people there's no way we can cover everything that's coming out but we're definitely gonna like, you know kind of run the gamut and you know, just kind of do a rundown of
01:15:01
Speaker
all the things because, gosh, damn, there was so much. And like I said, I was following Mattel and NECA, so my brain is like, whoa, in overload mode. Is there anything you saw that you did not like? There was a lot, a lot, a lot of stuff that I saw that I really did like. Anything that you thought looked kind of stupid?
01:15:20
Speaker
I mean, nothing that I thought looked kind of stupid, but I think releasing three fins is a little bit overkill. I think having another Rey Mysterio is a little bit overkill. I mean, there were some people that I just wasn't like, I didn't truly pop for. I mean, there was some great fin figures, right? Like the three that are coming out,
01:15:40
Speaker
are amazing figures but I think just having them all like revealed here at Comic Con was just kind of like okay like I'm a little bit finned out you know but other than that I mean everybody looks amazing and we got some figures I got one of my dream list figures one that we talked about last week China is coming out you know it was like we could get anyone who would you get and I said China and sure enough she was revealed so it is about damn time and I'm super excited to be able to add her to
01:16:09
Speaker
to my, you know, my DX box in the, in the Mark cave. Yeah, that's an awesome addition. And that's a figure I didn't think we'd ever, we'd ever see. I mean, it was cool to see her go into the Hall of Fame as a part of DX, but now to get a figure of her. I mean, that's, that's one that a lot of people have been clamoring for. So that was cool. I don't really see the need for another diesel figure. The one that they're, that they showed at Comic Con, I don't know if it was yesterday or today, it looks really similar to the ones
01:16:37
Speaker
that we've already gotten before the Hall of Fame one. There's not too much you can do with that. Same thing with the Pete Dunn. I mean, that Pete Dunn NXT one is so perfect.
01:16:49
Speaker
Or not NXT, but yeah. No, I know what you mean. Like while he was in NXT, obviously he's still in NXT, but, um, it's, uh, I do like it. I like the additional Pete done. I think it's a different look. It's a different face scan. You know, I was kind of down on the, the lip on the original face on the original Pete done, but I like this, the longer hair, the more serious face. Like I, uh, I was, I was, I was, I was hot for Pete done. Yeah.
01:17:18
Speaker
Uh, what else did I see that, uh, I did not even recognize the Lita and the Trish Straddish figures that they did. Oh, really? Yeah. I didn't. I mean, everyone, if I really thought about it hard enough, I probably, I guess I could have probably noticed it. Yeah. No, I, I, I recognize them right off the bat. One, I mean, the whale tail is like a, you know, it's like a telltale sign. Of course.
01:17:40
Speaker
of, uh, so of Lita. So, you know, I saw that, I saw that immediately, but yeah, these are definitely, I feel like later era, uh, Lita, Lita and Trish. Um, but,
01:17:51
Speaker
Let me see. What else did we have here? Oh, we're getting an elite anvil, which is super cool. Like we're going to have a yeah, we're going to have a definitive anvil for our like 97 Heart Foundation set, which I'm super, super excited about. We're getting an elite natty, which I can't believe we haven't had an elite natty up until now, you know, because I mean, as much as, you know, you may be down on her. She does have some pretty badass ring gear and she's been in the company for freaking ever. So yeah. Yeah.
01:18:20
Speaker
Mark, how long has Natty been in the WWE? Um, but yeah, I'm super excited about that. We're getting, um, both Finn and AJ in elite form with like the two sweet fingers, which I think is super cool. Um, did you see the, um, the brood Christian look good.
01:18:38
Speaker
It looks so good. And I popped really, I got popped really hard cause I thought it was gang grill. And I was like, Oh my God, we just got that custom gang grill. And like they released gang grill. Like I thought, I thought there was still beef there. Um, but no, I was like, so I asked somebody, I was like, is that gang grill? They're like, no, it's Christian. I was like, Oh, son of a.
01:18:56
Speaker
You know, because I hadn't seen like the actual like digital rendering of it yet. It was just like up on the screen. And I just saw like the little shallots and like, you know, the shirt, the Seinfeld puffy shirt. Um, and I was like, Oh my God, it's gang girl. But it was Christian. So I was pretty hot on that. We're getting an eco title.
01:19:13
Speaker
with our new Daniel Bryan, WWE Champion Daniel Bryan, which I'm super, super stoked for. What about you? Are you excited to get the eco title in your collection? I love that. Yeah. I think that figure is like scary. His face is like amazing looking from the pictures. Yeah. Scary good. I saw something and I'm trying to find it here where it said something about a elite. They're going to do some elite two packs now. Did you see that in one of the photos?
01:19:42
Speaker
Elite two packs. No, I did not see that. Yeah, I got to pull it up here. Maybe Marco can can help me. But I love the gorilla monsoon. I'm glad they're still coming out with that. Yes, I was very happy to see that they're still releasing gorilla monsoon. I love the the Rick Rudelite is like perfect 1991. Oh, my God. Feud. Beautiful. It's beautiful. He's got like the ultimate warrior tights. Oh, my God. He looks amazing.
01:20:11
Speaker
Marco's telling me that the Natty and the Anvil is an Elite two-pack. Oh, it is. The Natty and Anvil is an Elite two-pack. Interesting. It might even be the WrestleMania. We saw a photo of WrestleMania gear from Rey Mysterio and Samoa Joe. That might be one, too. They flashed a bunch of them on the screen that were kind of
01:20:34
Speaker
kind of grouping some elites together. And I think that there was that Finn Balor and AJ Styles, and that might be one as well. So we'll see if they're going to start doing some two packs of elites. I don't know if that'll be in stores or what, but all of those look good. I'm trying to pull up. Your best bet is always going to be to get them at ringside collectibles. Let's be real. If you use CodeChick Foley.
01:20:59
Speaker
if you use code chick you uh you can find your figures a lot easier if you if you use code chick foley oh no chick foley yeah correct myself um but man i just felt like today so last night was like the preview night and they didn't you know we saw the ghostbusters and all that which we which we had already seen which by the way i'm pretty sure the ghostbusters got me blocked by bill makina on instagram yeah what's that
01:21:25
Speaker
I went to, I think he's very sensitive. Um, and he hates, like he stopped posting in like wrestling figure forums, um, because he hates when people spoil like reveals and whatnot. Um, so, which is probably why Zach Ryder got so, but hurt whenever you posted the, uh, you know, or offended or whatever you want to call it. He got whenever you posted it on Twitter. Um, but I posted it on Instagram and left it on there, but I mean, I didn't take that picture. I didn't steal those figures and I'm just.
01:21:51
Speaker
passing the news along like it's already out there you know what I mean why be mad at me and I had no idea that I was blocked until like I was looking for San Diego Comic Con news and I was like I was like oh yeah let me check Bill's feed and see what's going on you know big shot Bill and I go to click it and it's like user not found and I was like what the hell I'm like did Bill's account get deleted never in my mind and I think like he had blocked me for some reason you know
01:22:16
Speaker
And so i went to my sheena phelps account and i was like oh there's bill right there so yeah i'm definitely i'm definitely blocked from uh from seeing bill speed so yeah i'm pretty sure it happened whenever because i was thinking like what did i say i was like other than criticizing like the
01:22:31
Speaker
Um, you know, the Bret Hart Ultimate Edition glasses in the head scan. Like, I don't feel like I've like, you know, shit on any figures recently, right? Or like, you know, done any, said anything really bad. Uh, but then I was like, Oh yeah, I posted that, that Ghostbusters picture. Um, so I'm pretty sure that's what, that's what got me canned, but whatever. No big deal. Um, I think, I think it's kind of funny, but we did get those reveals. I'm getting those. I know you're not, I know you're not a huge fan of the mashups, but man,
01:23:01
Speaker
They look so good. I can't wait. Like, I'm so super stoked. And that freaking Undertaker, like, oh, my God. I might have to buy that Undertaker. That Undertaker is dope, dude. Like, so freaking page.
01:23:13
Speaker
Uh, these, these math, these, uh, heroes, masters of the universe, whatever they are, who the fuck is going to buy those? Come on. Oh my God. Be looking for those at Ollie's. That's what I said. Those are going right to fucking big lots, man. People will say they're cool looking, but no one's going to buy those. No one's going to buy these Ghostbusters ones. Yeah. They're, they're cool looking. Hey, I'm buying the Ghostbusters ones. I mean, some people will, but I mean, it's, it's, are those, are those elites, those Ghostbusters ones?
01:23:43
Speaker
I'm pretty sure, now that you ask, I don't even think I ever looked. Yeah, they are elite. Walmart exclusive. Oh, geez. $20 Ghostbuster elite. Jesus Christ. Can't get any retros, but we got Ghostbuster and Master. Masters of the Universe is so popular that they haven't done anything with it in 20 years. Yeah. Come on, man. At least partner with Marvel or something and make them superheroes.
01:24:07
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, you got to do something relevant. You know what I mean? I mean, you know, people love master of the universe back in the day. And it was a thing. You know, the toys were hot and everything. But I'm like, I'm like, and those toys are they're not even for the collectors. You know what I mean? Like, those are not even made for collectors. They're not like the Ghostbusters that are actually elites in, you know, in Ghostbusters uniforms. They are like little like desk toys. Yeah.
01:24:36
Speaker
in He-Man costumes. So yeah, I think that is definitely a miss. Those are gonna go right to the discount stores, unfortunately. We did see a basic Matt Riddle.
01:24:48
Speaker
I have no doubt that we are going to get an elite form of Matt Riddle, but I was super stoked when I saw Matt Riddle and then I realized he was a basic. Um, and I was like, oh crap, you know, cause we, we only do elites because you just can't open that rabbit hole and collect, collect everything. So, um, yeah, I can't wait for one day when we finally get the removable sandals and like the bro and possibly like a hoodie, you know, or like a little jacket that you can like unzip and take off of him. So.
01:25:13
Speaker
super excited that he's in the line now. Um, we did get the Thanos version of Seth Rollins, but it is in basic form. I told his husband, I was like, why did they make this a basic? You know, and he's like, probably because they're going to test the waters to see if Marvel, you know, shuts it down. But before they do it in elite form and add all the, all the details and infinity stones and all that crap, you know, so.
01:25:37
Speaker
I was like, yeah, that kind of makes sense. What else were you super excited to see? I'm scrolling through it right now. I love the lucha house party. I'm sure my son's going to make me want to get that. The lucha house party three pack. I'm looking at all these elites. How far out are we going with these?
01:25:56
Speaker
There's a ton like I mean I love to see all these all at once But I also like to have a little bit of a surprise when they announced the you know I can't I can't be too picky But I mean God there has to be between the ones they showed on On yesterday with like the the big show attitude era one and all those and now the you know just the composite sketches of stuff I mean there's probably a good 20 20 elites here. I mean you have like three or four sets and
01:26:24
Speaker
true, but it's probably going to be, I mean, you're going to have store exclusives, you're going to have ringside exclusives, you know, you're going to have different, different retailer exclusives that are not part of just like the standard, you know, elite line. So, you know, you had to consider all those things, those things as well. And again, I mean,
01:26:41
Speaker
You know, I hate, I hate to be like a Debbie Downer while we're talking about all this exciting stuff. But my first thought was like, how many of these are going to get canceled? You know, like I was thinking in the back of my mind, like how many of these, cause like, you know, I heard the Naomi got canceled the glow in the dark Naomi, which I was super pumped for, like with the glow in the dark title and all that, like it got canceled. And I'm like, gosh, damn it. Like stop canceling these figures. You know, we thought gorilla monsoon got canceled.
01:27:06
Speaker
Thankfully he's back. Um, so maybe we'll see Naomi come, come in a later, a later series, but yeah, it's just one of those things like, you know, you can't don't count your chickens before they hatch.
Figure Collecting Highlights
01:27:17
Speaker
But one, one figure I hope like that, you know, comes out sooner rather than later is the Adam Cole with the baby hands. You know what I mean? Like I love, I love the Adam Cole with the, with the fingers and like the, the baby shirt, like, uh, and he's got the North American title, which the, it's the first time that we've had a North American title.
01:27:36
Speaker
release so for that love that I love I mean all the Lacey Evans the Mandy Rose those look great I think we have a contender for 2020 peg warmer of the year with this Alicia Fox fruit bouquet hat yeah lady yeah the dull the dull chick yeah that's it's a strange figure I mean you know I mean she did do a couple things here and there but I don't know why I need another Alicia Fox in my
01:28:06
Speaker
I'm
01:28:24
Speaker
But yeah, we're getting a brand new Joe, which I think is updated and actually looks really, really good. He's got the shock of hands. So yeah, I'm super excited about this Joe because like I said, you know, the other one's good too. But yeah, I think Joe, he just, he's evolved a little bit more and he looks a little bit different now than he did before. And I like this, this version of Joe that they're giving us.
01:28:47
Speaker
it looks like they were the the elite two packs are the fin and the set the fin and the aj styles the mysterious mojo and the nadi and the uh... night heart that involved in the evil night heart and i guess that might be marco says it might be even more coming maybe that i think maybe even the uh... christian and the the sera might be uh... to pack so we'll see we'll see that's uh... pretty interesting i do like the uh...
01:29:14
Speaker
The cane ringside exclusive looks exactly, in the face, looks exactly like the Undertaker. I don't know if they just did that because it's just an early drawing or whatever. Did you see the picture of that? No, it is Undertaker as cane. Oh, really? Oh, okay. Yeah. Oh, well, that makes sense. When did that happen? Was that an attitude error thing?
01:29:36
Speaker
We definitely need, um, it's what he unveiled himself. I can't remember exactly when it was. Um, but, uh, but that's why we have Marco. So Marco find out, find out when, can I jump in real quick? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, uh, that, uh, undertaker just as Kane, and they actually, I actually just listened to it. So it's fresh in my mind. It was, uh, on 83 weeks, they did a watch along on the July 6th, 1998.
01:30:06
Speaker
Raw and that was the episode where it was a no more on contenders match for the world title between Kane and mankind and and often as a champion with that ringside waiting to see who's gonna face Kane or mankind and it ended up being Undertaker dressed as Kane which is pretty cool at the end
01:30:31
Speaker
Yeah, that that's super, that's super dope. That figure looks awesome. And I think it's freaking hilarious that Phil was like, um, totally forgot about that. Do you think it looks like Undertaker? I'm like, yeah, it definitely looks like Undertaker. That was the whole point. But yeah, that figure is super dope. So you said that's going to be a ringside exclusive.
01:30:52
Speaker
Yep. Yeah. On the picture. That's what it says. Yeah. Oh, awesome. Awesome. That's the only one they have labeled is that. Oh, that's, that's cool. Um, we're getting also, I don't know if you guys saw the vintage, we're getting us a nice little vintage ref. We're getting a, uh, build a figure, uh, Danny Davis, uh, referee. So I don't know what, what, what figures he will come with, but he is a build a figure. So I'm super stoked for that.
01:31:16
Speaker
Yeah, I was hoping for more of a current, like I would love to see a current ref and also the Vince McMahon looks pretty cool, but I was hoping for a different era. I was hoping for an attitude error or like a current Vince McMahon. I mean, I'm not going to be picky. I love young Vince. Like I, Oh my gosh. Like that's such like this.
01:31:36
Speaker
yeah i think it's super cool and like those type of figures are the ones that like they they just round out your collection so well you know especially like people who do like figure photography and stuff like that i feel like those type of figures really just give you some like depth you know um and i i really i really pop whenever they they give us those types of figures
01:31:55
Speaker
So give me your top two. Give me a couple that you are like really, really, really looking forward to here. Oh my gosh, top two. Well, I said my dream figure that had been on my wish list forever was definitely China. So I'm super, I'm super excited to get her. Oh, my other dream figure. Oh my gosh, it's tough.
01:32:20
Speaker
I don't know. I really love this Johnny Gargano from Brooklyn Four. I think that that's a really cool figure. Other than somebody pointed out that they painted his legs instead of him just getting a new boot sculpt. And so like instead of the boots like actually coming up to his knee pads they just painted his legs which for an elite I feel like that's kind of a
01:32:41
Speaker
a cheap move, you know what I mean? People are pretty upset about that on the, uh, on the Twitter sphere today. On the interwebs. That Oscar figure's pretty dope too. Did you see that? The Oscar with like the big headdress and, uh, you know, the golden mask. I don't like the face on it. I like that. I like that NXT face. I don't know. Those NXT figures for me were some of the best that they've ever done. I don't know. I like that. I like the outfit better. It was a lot more colorful.
01:33:09
Speaker
Yeah. What do you think about the two new ultimate additions? Like the, what do you think about the characters that they chose? They got Finn, um, as well as attitude era, triple H. A lot of people, I thought the triple H was kind of like meh. And a lot of people were so freaking hype about this figure. I was like kind of shocked actually. What the triple H one.
01:33:28
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's not the first thing I think of when I think of Triple H. So I wasn't super high on it. I liked that Shawn Michaels, the next set, they're hinting at Shawn Michaels and was it Brock Lesnar? Oh, is that who I was thinking? I was hoping for, I hadn't heard anything, but I was hoping it was going to be Rollins and Shawn Michaels.
01:33:52
Speaker
It looks like it's Shawn Michaels from the 97 Survivor Series and Brock Lesnar with the Universal Belt. And they hinted at Ric Flair being part of the next set. So we'll see. We'll see you there.
01:34:10
Speaker
I could see them doing an ultimate flair for sure. Yeah, guys, like I said, we didn't even scratch the surface on what's coming out. So if you want to look, actually, a good account to follow is like, it's just like a random account that I follow, you know, friend of Chick Foley. It's lunatic underscore custom. He has literally like all the digital renderings of all of the pictures that are coming out. Obviously, you can go to ringside.
01:34:36
Speaker
but a lot of those pictures on ringside are of like, you know, the screens and things like that and of the figures in the display box, but you can actually see up close and personal, you know, kind of like the prototypes and the digital rendering. So if you go to lunatic, L-U-N-A-T-I-C underscore custom, he has a really good account to look at and you can really get the up close and personal of all the figures that are coming out. Good shit. Yeah, I just followed him. Good stuff. Yeah.
01:35:04
Speaker
Yeah, pretty cool, huh? There's a ton. I mean, we didn't even touch on the Keith Lee. We got a Carmela. We got a Don Morocco. We got a Greg, the hammer. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, like you said, some of these are going to get canceled, but, uh, I think for me, the China is the one I'm looking forward to the most. Yeah. That gorilla monsoon. I'm so glad that didn't get canceled.
01:35:25
Speaker
Yeah, I'm really looking forward to that Gorilla Monsoon. I'm not feeling the hands for every single person. I think you could use that money for something a little bit better. Why do I need three sets of hands for Gorilla Monsoon? Give me, give me freaking. Yeah. I don't think hands for every elite is, uh, is, is the best way. Like there's different accessories that I would rather have in place hands. If somebody has a signature hand, like, like,
01:35:51
Speaker
gesture that they use like the too sweet or you know the Adam Cole baby or like whatever like cool give me those hands like I want those hands you know the Shaka whatever um but his hands I want those hands I want those hands yeah but if it's just like
01:36:06
Speaker
you know, Seth Rollins, you know what I mean? Give me an open hand and give me a fist hand. Like, you know, I can have one of each, you know, a right one closed, the left one open. Like, you know, you don't have to give me all the things. Right. Um, but yeah, I think, I think I have an elite hands. Like I feel like those are going to get mixed up in our collection all the time. We're like, who the hell's hands are these, you know? Oh, also Greg Valentine. I was pumped to see Greg Valentine, um, the elite coming out. So that, that's going to be a really cool addition to, to the collection with the, uh, the mom, the mom hair.
01:36:37
Speaker
Oh yeah, the definitely like the 80s. The Pizza Hut Book Fair Mom here. Oh my God, nailed it. What figure were you hoping to see, but you didn't see? Oh, I told you I want that light up Jeff Jarrett. Just give me that light up Jeff Jarrett. I want it. I want it, damn it. I was really surprised that there was no Hogan reveals. Yeah, a lot of people thought that was happening.
01:37:01
Speaker
Yeah, I was kind of shocked. Granted, I had the Storm Collectibles, so it's not like I'm in a huge rush for Hollywood Hogan's or different Hogan variations and stuff, but I was very shocked they didn't try to slide him in. Also, I mean, always and forever, I'm holding out hope for a gobbledygooker reveal to be part of a Survivor Series.
01:37:24
Speaker
Line somewhere down the road. So Yeah, that's that's what I was hoping for that. I did not that I did not see
01:37:33
Speaker
I'm definitely, I've earmarked a lot of these that I'm going to buy. I'm sure Bringside is going to have them before a lot of people. People do. I mean, what do you think some of these are going to hit stores? I mean, I don't even know when, I mean, LEED 70 is on pre-order right now on Ringside. That's probably not going to hit stores until 2020, right? I mean, there's no way that hits stores this year. No. I mean, with the way that our stores look,
01:38:01
Speaker
if any if these hit at all like i would be completely shocked to be quite honest with you and i don't to be honest i don't know if i'll wait around you know we're going to be on amazon and ringside and you know doing doing online shopping because
01:38:16
Speaker
especially once, I mean, especially in 2020, cause I'm gonna have two kids, dog. Like I ain't gonna be hauling them to the store. Strictly to figure hunt. Like, you know, it just ain't happening. So, you know, I'm going to have, you know, my prime shipping and my, my ringside collectibles discount code on hand. And you know, that's going to be, that's going to be my main figure hunting. I guess I'm not a collector if I buy them that way, but I will say that I hunt them that way. Marco says he's got three kids and he still does it.
01:38:43
Speaker
Damn you, Marco. I know, man. Come on, dude. Stop setting the bar so damn high.
01:38:49
Speaker
Man, I was so glad I recorded on Thursday night because I wanted to watch Evolve. I didn't get to watch Evolve. You didn't either. Raw and SmackDown were kind of back to back, obviously. I got in Extreme Rules. Fight for the Phone was the one I watched first. I watched that almost as it happened. And I love the BR Live app. I mean, it's pretty nice. They don't have too much on there right now. They have a lot of soccer on there.
01:39:18
Speaker
It's a cool way to like, it's almost pay-per-view, but it's not. It's a cool, easy way to access stuff, and you can have it on a bunch of mobile devices. So they do a good job of having it available through that.
01:39:31
Speaker
Yeah. And I haven't had any, any streaming issues through there either, which I will say, you know, like no, no glitching, no, no, uh, lag or anything like that. So yeah, super stoked. I love comic-con season and it's like, you know, I've never been to a San Diego comic-con. I've been to like little local, little local comic-cons and, you know, always dress in cosplay and whatnot. But, uh, like it's like my bucket list, you know, to, to go to San Diego comic-con and just take in the, the environment and all of the reveals and all of that kind of stuff. So.
01:40:01
Speaker
Super stoked. If they do cancel these retros, I have eight retro rings sitting under my feet right now that I'm going to turn into liquid gold. Hopefully. We're talking about Nash's College Fund here. We're just going to hang on to those. I don't know what college he's going to with that, but you know. Hey, listen. I'll buy you a couple books.
01:40:25
Speaker
You never know. He may be one of those lucky kids who like, you know, some billionaire comes through and like pays for his college. Yeah, there you go. That'd be nice. Yeah. Um, but yeah, so that was wrapping up San Diego Comic Con. Like I said, we didn't even scratch the surface. Like there, I mean, there was just so much, I mean, stuff that wasn't even like Mattel elites or basics, you know, like it was just so many things. If you're a NECA
01:40:48
Speaker
um collector their reveals were incredible so make sure you go and look up those lots of horror stuff um was revealed so yeah definitely definitely check those out but yeah moving right along um we do have some random merch of the week um and it is
01:41:08
Speaker
a Honky Tonk Man red jumpsuit. So this is like a legit like worn Honky Tonk, re-worn Honky Tonk Man red jumpsuit. And I'm pretty sure Honky Tonk Man is the one selling this stuff because I was looking for some random merch and like all of a sudden I came across this like this load of listings
01:41:28
Speaker
where Honky Tonk Man is literally holding up ring-worn merchandise, like boots and jumpsuits and all of this stuff, right?
01:41:39
Speaker
So this jumpsuit is like, you know, your standard Honky Tonk Man red jumpsuit. It's got the guitars with the embellishments, you know, the albums, the records and all of that, like stars and, you know, all the things that you know and love about Honky Tonk Man. It is going for, he's only asking,
01:41:58
Speaker
He must be hitting hard times, baby. Because he is asking $24,140, which seems like a very odd number to me. Like, why not just like $24,000? Or why not $25,000? Yeah, $25,000. Like, why $24,140? That was the sweet spot. And you're letting people make the best offer. So very, very weird. The thing that really
01:42:24
Speaker
really freaking trips me out about this is that it's $500 just about to say that why why so like just make the listing higher and just do free shipping I don't want that pisses me off on anytime on eBay when I see something's like a $12 figure with like $15 shipping I'm like god damn it I'm not gonna buy this now like yeah well you know why they do that they do that because you don't have to pay eBay fees on shipping
01:42:46
Speaker
You know, so people people think they're being clever by upcharging you on shipping because that's that's money that they get scot-free You don't have to pay eBay fees on on shipping costs. So Yeah, $500 shipping. I mean you could fold that thing up and put it in a priority flat rate for 12 bucks. Yeah So yeah that and you could even do it insured even if you insured it for the full $24,000 it would not be $500
01:43:14
Speaker
Five dollars shipping but yeah look on their honky-tonk man. I mean there's like tons of stuff that he is that he is selling Which is just funny that he's like selling his stuff and what it's like price so high because I mean honky-tonk man I mean he's a legend in the business. You know I mean I
01:43:31
Speaker
like legendary icy title holder and whatnot. But like Jesus Christ, like how many honky tonk marks out there are just like sitting on twenty four thousand dollars that they're going to buy a jumpsuit? You know what I mean? Yeah. He's got one listed here for just just the the figure for the retro fest figure for twenty three dollars. It was like five bucks at freaking GameStop, man. Come on, dude. He probably bought all of them up. He was like, oh, shit, these are five dollars. I'm about to flip these bad boys.
01:44:00
Speaker
That was a good figure, but yeah. But yeah, so this this is right up there with the bone saw, the bone saw gear. I need to check and see if that macho man bone saw gear is is still available. I did forget to say that I tweeted out. I said, holy shit, this at real EC3 figure is fire. And he tweeted me back. He said, it's nice. Yes. I hope he didn't see my reply. Oh, what did you say? I said with the shocker hand. Oh, yes. Yeah, I'm sure he did see that. Yeah.
01:44:29
Speaker
Uh, yeah, it is nice. I mean, it looks really good. You know, I mean, as little as EC3 is done in the WWE, he does have a really nice looking elite figure right now. Yeah. And doing the shocker as, as he's doing it. I think, I think that's the, uh, I think that's not definitely not EC3's hand. I think that's like the Nakamura hand on,
01:44:48
Speaker
Um, on EC3, like I think, you know, I think it's just because it's because it's a prototype. I think they just like pop the hand on there. Um, but I, they'll probably have something different when it actually, when it actually releases. All right. How about your retro wrestling recommendation of the week?
01:45:07
Speaker
Well, we are rolling right into summer slam at summer slam season.
Wrestling Nostalgia and Recommendations
01:45:12
Speaker
Um, and so I feel like my retro wrestling recommendations for the next couple of weeks need to be like, you know, summer slam related. And why not start off with the bang with like quite possibly the best summer slam match.
01:45:24
Speaker
of all time um summer slam 92 bret versus bulldog um this this match is just incredible especially like if you know if you've ever read bret's book or you know anything about this match it was at wimbly stadium
01:45:39
Speaker
Um, you know, it's, it's Brett Harvard's debut boy Smith for the intercontinental title. Um, you know, bulldogs wife is sitting ringside, which we know is Brett Hart sister. So it was just like this total, like, and she's just having this inner turmoil, like who she wants to win. They just keep cutting over to, um, Diane, her name's Diane, right? Yeah, Diane, they just keep like cutting over to her. And I'm like, you know, you just see this throughout the whole match. And the match is just like a five star classic, even though
01:46:09
Speaker
Let me, if you don't know this, if you're not like a huge like Bret Hartmark, he may not know this, but Davey Boy, you know, Bret Hart, he's a, he's a, you know, technician, just like, you know, a freaking ring magician, right? We know he's like super talented. He was, he was trying to get in touch with Davey Boy. Davey Boy wouldn't return his calls, you know, trying to plot out this, this like the biggest, the biggest match of their, of their life up to this point, right? Um,
01:46:34
Speaker
So they didn't see each other until the night before the pay-per-view. And they sat down, you know, Brett sketched everything out. The next night at the freaking pay-per-view, Davey Boy admitted that, you know, he didn't remember anything that they talked about the night before. He had been, you know, out doing drugs. He was high at the time of the match, like he was completely strung out. And yeah, and Brett carried, he called the whole match.
01:47:02
Speaker
Step by step by step that entire match. So he carried that entire match and it was just a true masterpiece and I mean unfortunately, you know, debut boy came out on top of that match, but it just oh My god, it's one of the best matches if you've never seen it and also like the the atmosphere at Wembley Stadium it's in London, England for those of you who don't know where that's at, but it's at Wembley Stadium and
01:47:28
Speaker
It was just incredible. I mean, it's this tiny ring amongst this sea of people, like 80,000 people. And it is just an incredible sight to be seen, an incredible match to be watched. So it is definitely my wrestling recommendation of the week, man. That was a tongue twister, take a shot.
01:47:53
Speaker
Find some time this week to watch it if you've never seen it. And if you have seen it, just, you know, replay it because you can never see it too many times. This was the first I got into wrestling and read about WrestleMania eight. So this was the first like pay-per-view I was like looking forward to. I was watching superstars every week. I was watching the build up to Brett versus Bulldog, watching the build up to Undertaker Kamala.
01:48:19
Speaker
And I totally forgot that it was Macho Man versus the Warrior in the main, not even the main event. It's a co-main event. Yeah, it was a co-main event show. It was Bretton Bulldog and then Macho Man and Warrior. Yeah, pretty crazy. But this was like, Hogan was gone for a time here. So it was kind of like almost the changing of the guard, but it's not. Yeah.
01:48:41
Speaker
Yeah, pretty pretty good event. And yeah, the crowd was crazy. And it's almost worth it if you if you turn on the first like 15 seconds of it of the summer slam 92 and see like they interview a bunch of fans outside and they have, you know, it's all these like young kids that have the worst British accents. And they're like, yeah, let's go, Bulldog.
01:49:00
Speaker
Yeah they and they hate like they're like rooting against Bret Hart which is like you know not something you really saw in 1992 you know what I mean like it was it was odd to see people just like you know just completely rooting against Bret Hart and like you know people it was in London so people were obviously likes the bulldog was so
01:49:18
Speaker
over. Um, and yeah, it was an incredible match again, especially when you consider the backstory and just thinking about how much Brett had to put into that match and, you know, just calling it on the spot. And I mean, just, just incredible. Uh, we don't have too much. Do you have anything for a weekly purchases? Cause I have one that kind of ties into this match that I didn't want to drop real quick. No, I wait, I didn't get anything this week.
01:49:44
Speaker
All right, well, my good buddy Kevin Harrison from the Baltimore Lead Squad found me a British Bulldog Elite Legends figure. Oh, man. Yeah, from my new generation collection. And I think I got it for a pretty good price. I think it was like $35. I got $30 or $35 because the card was messed up. But I'm going to take it out anyway. He went to this store in Dover, which I need to check out. It's called Their Action Figures.
01:50:09
Speaker
Yeah. T H E Y apostrophe R E and said it was like worth the trip. It's like an hour and a half from here, two hours from here. But they have a ton of stuff, not just wrestling related, but all kinds of figures. So I'd love to check those out. But I did buy that and I got off of eBay a couple. It was 15 bucks for three different creative figure, like different accessory packs. I think one was like a referee. One was like a
01:50:36
Speaker
they were like when they remember they tried to build those build your own wrestler type of figures uh but i just bought i bought them for the kid so um i'll give them to him and he can put them together and put them on people so it'd be cool to have like a little referee shirt before we get the uh dangerous danny davis figure
01:50:51
Speaker
Uh, for sale. So nothing, nothing crazy. I, you know, I'm still waiting for things to show up in the, in the stores. I did, I did receive, or our, my buddy Daris did receive our elite, uh, pre-order for the, uh, Ricochet. And I don't even know what, is that elite 60, 68 or 69? 68. Yeah. 68, I believe.
01:51:11
Speaker
Yeah, so he got those. I'm going to pick those up from him tomorrow. I got the pop up stage. I got the Jeff Hardy summer slam basic for the kids. So I got a bunch of stuff coming in. So that'll be that'll be cool. And I did pick up the election elite 69.
01:51:27
Speaker
Oh, late 69. OK. Yeah. And I did pick up at Walmart today. I picked up the two pack Kurt Angle, Jason Jordan. I was like 10 bucks. I wanted to add it to the Kurt Angle collection. Got that. And then I saw it big lots today. They had the WrestleMania basics. So I got the Woken Matt Hardy again for the kid. Starting already collect stuff for Christmas, which is sad. But nothing, nothing.
01:51:54
Speaker
Nothing too bad, but yeah, it's starting to feel the itch. I don't have anything to buy, Sheena. Yeah. Hey, it's not a bad thing, man. It's not a bad thing. Like you said, Christmas will be here before you know it and you'll be like shelling out more money than you'd be like, you know, you gotta buy, then you gotta buy like everybody gifts. You know what I mean? It's not just buying yourself stuff. You're like, Oh God, you know, gotta buy the family stuff. What the hell? At least the kid will be taking care of that. Exactly. Exactly.
01:52:21
Speaker
Um, so we do have a couple of listener mails. Um, and this one, so we got, we got a listener mail in from Carl Fitzgerald and he wants to hear from Marco. Marco's first day on the job and he wants to, he wants to put Mark Marco on the spot and hear from him. So he says, um, Hey guys, I trust all as well. And each of you, each of your hunts and your purchases are successful and discounted. Oh, thank you. He's like sending us, sending us hunting. Well wishes. I have, I have two questions for the show. One, if you.
01:52:51
Speaker
And he said, hot take, hot take and Marco.
01:52:54
Speaker
uh big congrats marco we're able to start your own federation who would make up your roster and who would be your champion so that's the first part of the question he wants to hear from he wants to hear from uh phil and marco uh i guess he said if you hot taken marco so maybe he does want to hear from me i was gonna bag on you carl for not wanting to hear from me on the on the roster um but i'll let i'll let uh phil and marco take that one anyway and then i'll answer the second part of the question with them as well but it says the second part of the question is
01:53:22
Speaker
Will there ever be a Chick Foley live show? And if there was, who would be your dream guest? Either way, I'll be listening and I'm a complete mark for the Chick Foley show. Keep up the great job and nothing but super awesome continued success. Chick Foley hot take kid fan for life, Carl Fitzgerald. Thank you so much, Carl. You're so sweet. Um, and sorry, I was going to like, you know, I was going to get onto you about not wanting to hear from me cause I totally read your question wrong, but yeah, it's that if you hot taken Marco, so you're talking to all three of us. So if you guys could have your own Federation,
01:53:52
Speaker
Who would make up your roster? Let's just make it, like, let's just make it easy. Let's just like only consider current people,
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01:53:57
Speaker
right? Like, I guess, you know, let's just put only current people on your Federation. Who would you make up your roster and who would be your champion? Marco, you want to go first? Uh, sure. How many? Did he say like, how many? Are we going to cut it to like five people? Yeah, let's cut it. Let's cut it to, let's make it even. Let's do five. Yeah. Let's make it a nice five and then you can pick a champion.
01:54:23
Speaker
Oh, all right. Um, so if I had a Federation, I would probably go with the, uh, the best in the world, which is Shane McMahon. No, I'm joking. No, it's Shane McMahon. I'm going with Kenny Omega. I'd probably, I'd probably have him as my main, um, guy. Um, I'm assuming we could pick anybody, not just WWE guys. Yeah, it can be from, yeah, from any Federation, you get to pull from whatever current talent pool you want.
01:54:52
Speaker
All right, so Kenny Omega, definitely my flagship guy. Four others, definitely Seth Rollins. He has to be in there, because I know their feud would be pretty epic if they were to go back and forth. I definitely need a heal. So I'm pulled from AEW again and going with MJF, because I think he's going to be great. And I'm going to round right out with a tag team, because that'll be two more people, and probably just the Bucks. I'm going to grab the Bucks, I think.
01:55:22
Speaker
You're basically just making AEW here. AEW plus Seth. Pretty much, yeah. You know, we'll go with AEW. But Seth Rollins is there, so it's WWE infused a little bit. No, those are all good calls, man. I mean, honestly, I mean, those are the upper echelon of talent. So you can't go wrong. You can't go wrong with those five guys. So who would you say would be your champion, Kenny Omega? Yeah, Kenny Omega will probably be my guy.
01:55:52
Speaker
OK, what about you, Phil? Oh, I was tough here. I got Seth Rollins as well. I got the I got the original MJF. I'm going with the Miz because he's still. Wow, I did not. Stolen his prime. Yes. I just you know, he's a shit talker. He's a great heel when he needs to be. He can go back and forth. He can. He has the personality to to host some segments and get people over. I got a safe worker. I got Kevin Owens, who's going to be my monster heel.
01:56:24
Speaker
Paul Heyman is going to be my advocate. He's going to run the backstage. He's going to be basically what he was in ECW. So he's not necessarily a wrestler, but I feel like he is kind of a jack of all trades kind of guy. As far as my champion, I don't know. I want to say Seth, but I've already used him.
01:56:52
Speaker
Uh, he could be, he could be your champion and you could pick one more. Yeah. Give me Seth and I'm going to go with Matt Riddle. Okay. Cool. Cool. Well, I'm going to call both you guys out for being sexist because you did not pick one single female for either of your, either of your Federation. Sorry. Sorry. Give me Asia, Asia Kong. I'm Alicia Fox. I pick Alicia Fox. Oh my God. I want to see, I want to see Alicia Fox and Asia Kong, uh, have, have a match together.
01:57:24
Speaker
Awesome. Well, thank you so much, Carl, for that question. That was awesome. So we also have a question from our man Tyson Trevino. He says, Hey, Sheena and Phil, I was wondering what is your favorite superstar comeback, whether it's from injuries or going away for a while to reinvent themselves?
01:57:41
Speaker
For me, it's Triple H returning from his first quad injury at Madison Square Garden. Let me know what your guys favorite comebacks are. Keep up the awesome work and have a glorious day. It's Friday and you know what that means. Hashtag Ask Chick Foley. Awesome. Thank you so much, Tyson. I'll go first on this one since I didn't weigh in on the on the faction or not the factions on the federations. I'm going to have to go with my man.
01:58:08
Speaker
Seth Rollins, he had a run of over 200 days as the WWE Champion, one of the best runs in my personal opinion, was at a flipping house show in Ireland, I believe is where it was, Ireland. Did a sunset flip over freaking Kane and tore his ACL, MCL, medial meniscus, basically just blew his knee into a bajillion different pieces.
01:58:35
Speaker
Um, and unfortunately had to forfeit the title was supposed to be out for like, you know, six, eight months and came back at extreme rules and freaking pedigreed Roman. And, uh, yeah, he held up that title that he'd never lost. And I mean, I was marking the F out. Like, I just remember just being like, holy shit. You know, uh, I thought that was awesome. Obviously.
01:59:02
Speaker
there is the infamous Cena return from like the Peck injury. I think it was a Peck injury, right? Where he returned to the Royal Rumble as the number 30 entrant. And like, if you go back and look at some of the best Royal Rumble entries of all time, like that one always, like the pop on that is just like insane. He ended up winning the Royal Rumble that year, but yeah, pretty crazy. So I think those two are definitely at my top picks. You got one Phil?
01:59:29
Speaker
Well, you stole mine. That was, yeah, that was a really good one because, yeah, the pop for that. People didn't think he would be back from his injury that fast. I want to say great colleague when he came back to help Ginger Mahal at Battleground. That was, no, I'm just joking. I was like, that is a very niche shell. I don't know.
01:59:51
Speaker
That was that was awful. That was awful. I'm gonna say the hardy boys coming back That was that was it you I could feel that that popped through the TV man everyone that place was ready for them
02:00:05
Speaker
I was I was in the house for that. Oh, you were nice. Oh, dude. I like I have the pop. I recorded it like and it doesn't. So it looks crazy on my video, but like to feel it like the whole you can see the stadium shaking in my video, like to feel it in person was like unlike anything I've ever experienced in my life. Like it was just so crazy because
02:00:28
Speaker
It was just the last thing anyone expected. I mean, there had been rumblings about it, but like, you know, I thought, I thought the new day was pulling the wool over our eyes. They're like, Oh yeah, we're going to add, you know, another tag team to this, to this ladder match, blah, blah, blah. Make it a fatal four way. Um, and we was like, the new day were in their ring gear. And then you hear that freaking hardy boys music hit. And it was just like.
02:00:51
Speaker
electric like I can't even explain. That is such a good shout. And I can't believe the fact that I was there for that, that I did not call that out. So that is a killer shout. Marco, do you have one that you, a killer return that you remember that stands out to you? Yeah. I'm going to go with Triple H, returning from his quad injury. Monday Night Raw, I think it was 2002.
02:01:19
Speaker
Yeah. That place blew up. The reception frame was insane. I don't think he even expected that to actually happen. It was pretty crazy. Yeah, that's the one that Tyson showed. That was the all denim, right? When he showed up in the denim and denim gear, it's like the defining moments figure, right? Yeah, pretty much.
02:01:48
Speaker
The other one I have, I picked a second one because he picked that one. Probably not the most popular, but Ultimate Warrior showing up on WCW to face Hulk Hogan. And kind of teaming up and singing. That was a pretty big reception for him as well. Not the most popular, but it's totally forgotten. Like his stint there was pretty much forgotten, but it was a pretty warm reception for the warrior there.
02:02:16
Speaker
Yeah, that's a, um, yeah, that, that's a, that's a good shout too. So yeah, those are all really good. And I, you know, me, I love, I love a good comeback. I love a good surprise return. Even more recently, you know, with the, with the Bray Wyatt thing, finally getting him back in ring, you know, and just seeing the reception that that God, I love when.
02:02:33
Speaker
People are excited about wrestling and like you they do things that are like. Unexpected you know like Brock coming back at money in the bank you know me we hadn't heard from Brock and how long you know it didn't seem like it was that long as he was just the champion for like forever but the fact that he showed up at money in the bank was like completely.
02:02:51
Speaker
a surprise and as much as people didn't want him to be the next universal champion or WWE champion, people popped for that. And I think WWE just needs to do more of that instead of trying to draw ratings by telling everybody Brock Lesnar is gonna be on Raw tonight. I think if you just give people those organic
02:03:12
Speaker
surprises and returns like the word gets out and people are just going to naturally watch because they want to see what happens right like you don't have to announce every week if you give us those on the regular then people are just going to watch the program to see what happens right like am I am I wrong in that assumption is it like a chicken in the egg situation like I feel like you don't have to announce everything that's going to happen ahead of time.
02:03:35
Speaker
No, I agree. I agree with you. Uh, I'm just, I'm sorry. I've been distracted that I just saw that the major brothers tweeted out at eight 30 that the retros are officially on a hiatus.
Impact of Collectibles Hiatus
02:03:47
Speaker
They did. Yeah. So, uh, I was, I was expecting that, but, uh,
02:03:53
Speaker
You know, it can't be can't be all good news coming from San Diego Comic Con. But dude, I'm going to let you be the one to break it to Mike Lanham. OK. Well, yeah, Mike Lanham and now this this this episode me and Mike Lanham are going to do is is is it just the top the first 10 series. We're going to do a recap on the Patreon. Me and him go back and forth and it'll be even more special because it might be the last ones that we ever get.
02:04:18
Speaker
Yeah, that's it, man. Wow. Marco, I want to thank you for joining us tonight. You've been great. Me and Sheena from the bottom of our hearts want to thank you for everything you've done for us personally, for this show. You've become a great friend, and you've been a great part of what we've built here, man. So thank you so much for joining us.
02:04:38
Speaker
Absolutely, man. Yeah, we appreciate it. Writing in your emails every week. You always hit us with some awesome questions. You're just an awesome person all around. And I'm excited for the Chick-Fully show listeners to get to know the Marco that we know. Thank you very much. I enjoyed my time here. Hopefully, I think I got the kinks down tonight about just
02:05:04
Speaker
Just living the dreamer right now. It was awesome. The boyhood dream. The boyhood, my boyhood dream, just like Shawn Michaels. I'm really excited to do this. This is pretty awesome. I'm not actually messaging. I'm doing I'm going to work it out. I think I'm going to do what I'm doing with Phil right now is basically I just been in much like messaging him on the side and like.
02:05:28
Speaker
filling them in with little tidbits on the side of there, which I think works. I can do that with do it all the time. I actually like doing this. It's pretty fun. For sure, man. That will give you a shout when we want to get your opinion on stuff. And I think it'll be good. Me and Marco, Sheena, and 12 other of our listeners are doing a fantasy football draft. It's a $10 entry fee. Unfortunately, the league is now full. We put it out on social media and fill it up pretty quick.
02:05:55
Speaker
$10 entry fee, winner take all. I'm going to do a $140 shopping spree. You can buy whatever the hell you want and we'll put all the money toward it. And, you know, the fantasy football ends right around Christmas time. You'll be able to get a nice little $140 from Ringside Collectibles. Man, that's a nice little haul there. So that'll be a cool
02:06:17
Speaker
A cool little get. If we do expand it, I don't want to go more than 14. But if we go to 16, we'll definitely let you guys know. And we'll open up those two spots for some people. But next year, maybe we'll do two leagues. Who knows?
02:06:32
Speaker
Yeah, you know, I love me some fantasy football, man. I was the commissioner of my league for so long, but it's just at this point in my life, trying to keep up with WWE, trying to keep up with a toddler. Um, the heel husband's going to be in and out a lot this year and, uh, he'll be gone most of, most of next year. So it's going to be a crazy, a crazy year. So I just can't, I was like, Oh man, like chick Foley's having their own fantasy football, but I will be keeping up with you guys and keeping tabs on, on who's winning and you know, all of that kind of stuff, because I do love me some fantasy football, but.
02:07:02
Speaker
It's just a commitment, dude. You got to watch a lot of shit and read a lot of stuff and read a lot of, you know, analysis. And I'm like, dude, I can barely keep up with all the wrestling that's happening right now. For sure. I'm going to try the opposite this year. I used to do I used to read as many wrestling podcasts. I used to listen to all fantasy football podcasts and read the magazines and stuff. And now I'm just going to I'm going to go in. I'll probably have my best year ever because I'm going to go in without even like overthinking shit. And, you know, that's what that might be the key.
02:07:32
Speaker
Sometimes that's the best way to just go just go with your gut and who you think and just you know Whoever's hot whoever's hot us on the waiver wire. I mean obviously they know what they're talking about. Yeah, let's take this guy Joe Montana Joe Montana But yeah, I think it's just it's just one of those things like yeah I went into those deep dives to where I would like over analyze everything and I would like be I would be like I
02:07:55
Speaker
so stressed about picking people that were like literally like within a freaking frog's hair of like you know difference between one another you know what I mean and neither one of them would do shit and then somebody out of the blue would like have the game of their lifetime you know or somebody on my bench would have the game of their lifetime so yeah it's one of those things where it's just like I mean there is some strategy to it but ultimately you can't freaking know I mean think about all those people that that drafted Tom Brady that year that he blew his uh his knee out you know what I mean like it's it's just you never freaking know
02:08:26
Speaker
for sure. But Marco, thank you for listening. And like I said, we will have pictures of all of the unveiling from San Diego Comic Con on our Patreon page coming up, patreon.com slash chick Foley and Sheena. And then in the coming weeks, we will be able to get more into previewing what should be a pretty fun summer Sam card. So I'm excited.
02:08:48
Speaker
Yeah, same here, man. But yeah, thanks for tuning in, guys. Like I said, we had a packed episode. So if you're still here, we love you. Thank you for your support. Thank you for listening. And yeah, we'll catch you next week. All right. Stay classy, Marx. We'll talk to you soon. Bye.