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Season 5- Weekly Fantasy Corner (6 Nations Rd 3, Premiership Rd 18 & Super Rugby Rd 1)
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It's a beastly episode of the Fantasy Corner from TFRY. On this week's ep of FC, we are looking back at the happenings in CYL, look forward to the matchup this weekend and a call out for managers to join a league. We also play a little this or that for 6 Nations Superbru, and dive back into Start or Sit including the first version fo the season for Super Rugby Pacific FRD. Grab those notepads and enjoy a laugh with us!
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Transcript
Introduction and Fantasy Sports
00:00:02
Speaker
It is. The Fantasy Robias. My name is Jared Dyke. I wanted to say it's stupid and let's move on, but then you kept going. I'm Ben Glauser. I don't like any way anybody gambled that. Collusion. Collusion.
Fantasy Rugby Experiences and Mind Games
00:00:27
Speaker
Hey everybody, welcome back. It is the fancy rugby yanks. My name is Jared Dyke. I'm Ben Glauser. It's fancy corner time. We got a sense of deja vu. Yeah, I know. Right. We've done this thing before or four or five times or something like that. And like the last week, God, we've always been doing it. Listen, don't play mind games over here.
00:00:47
Speaker
Don't be playing those mind games on you, man. It's not cool. All I can think about is like, oh, this episode where it's like the CIA mind trick. I think it was American dad. He's like, wait, were those real? I can't remember. I think they're messing with Derek Jeter or something like that. It was pretty fun. I vaguely remember it. Anyway, that's how I feel.
Division One Matchups and Players
00:01:15
Speaker
Let's dive in. Let's dive in. Uh, yes. Champions league. Let's start with that this past weekend, division one. Uh, we had movement and a solidity given to much, much of the league. Um, so start with Duncan B Carrick. Uh, I hope it's got the better, better of you. That was actually a decent matchup though.
00:01:37
Speaker
Uh, yeah, that's probably the one of the better ones. Yeah. I was the one of the two better ones on the weekend. Exactly. Give it to me. They fucked me. Yep. That happens. He'll be in my bus tomorrow. Um, I was able to stay ahead of George. We weren't sure how that was going to play out while we were talking on a draft on Sunday. Yeah. I, uh, I came up the better. I ran. I ran away with it in the end. Uh, and then Mark be Justin. So that leaves interesting things going on. So we have.
Division One Standings and Playoff Seedings
00:02:06
Speaker
replaces claimed at this point, I think. It's just a matter of seeding. Yes, so we have, so Duncan's locked in. That's not gonna, with exception of if somehow you can get the better, but that's gonna take a lot of fucking out. Cobus and Mark also are near locked in, like they are near locked in. The only two that aren't those three or myself are you and Justin that are still chasing.
00:02:36
Speaker
Right. Can, and yeah, George and, and character. Fighting for those for not being bottom. Right. Nobody wants to be bottom man. No. Uh, division two.
Division Two Updates and Ghost Team
00:02:50
Speaker
Um, for those that haven't heard, there's probably going to be a division two spot up for grabs next year, which is tough way. I, um,
00:02:56
Speaker
Division two. So we had, uh, Alex, Alex, once again, he beat Larry still going at, uh, Sophia one as well. She beat our current ghost team. Um, Terry beat Luke. Good on Terry. Terry's good friend of the pod. Um, and then Stu Stu beat Franco player too. Yeah. Stu beat Franco. That was a tight one. That was a three point game.
Division Two Standings and Strategy
00:03:23
Speaker
Where did who got bit?
00:03:25
Speaker
Really? Oh, yes. Spencer only had point seven because of that card. Yeah. Yeah. That was, that was it right there. Yeah. And cell phone. Franco had cell phone row and they, Oh yeah. There was a little bit, a little bit too as well. So neither were awesome. We also scored a try. So yeah. And Franco did not have a fly half. I feel that one. I think I started Bailey on the bench. I ended up starting Evans and he got four and a half for me. So I,
00:03:56
Speaker
I feel like I stole points there. Yeah, you definitely stole a little bit there. Every toy kind of balanced that out in a way. I was like, no, there's your punishment for actually getting points from Lloyd Evans. That whole thing. Yeah.
Next Week's Matchups Preview
00:04:13
Speaker
The standings over there are, uh, Stu is on top of division one and Franco level with him. Just point differential being there right behind him is Sophia. And then the other division is currently being talked by Alex and he is up there all by himself with Terry and Larry, really the only ones that can chase, um, loops.
00:04:31
Speaker
And Alex took over this team post draft, right? Yes. Yes. He did a, he's, he's done an amazing job. We, we know, we know. Anybody that's ever had to play against dead ends in, in any comp, it's not fun. So, so, uh, yeah, good on Alex for getting.
00:04:46
Speaker
himself right there. Let's look at next week because we got lots to get lots going on in this whole thing. We'll talk about super in a second here as well. So I have I have Duncan, this is going to be interesting. So this is going to be
00:05:03
Speaker
time for you to catch up to me potentially. Uh, but you also have to beat Mark, so that'll be fun.
Super Rugby Leagues and Player Availability
00:05:10
Speaker
And then, um, Cobus and Justin are going at it. And then the two bottom feeders are, uh, Karen and George.
00:05:17
Speaker
Oh, it's just the crap. I'm just pulling each other back. Uh, let's see the other division. Larry and Terry are doing battle. Um, now Steve's going to be against the ghost team. Oh, well, uh, Alex and Luke are doing it. And then Franco and Sophia square off. And then, and then.
00:05:42
Speaker
And then dude, where's my car? Um, let's go to super rugby as well. So D two needs, uh, players to play in it because not everybody from D two is willing or able to play in super rugby. So if you want to league and you want to play spoiler and party crasher, we got a few, we got at least one spot, if not a couple more, so get in touch with us more. We'll help you out with that.
00:06:08
Speaker
Super rugby. Never ever can I get away from fucking George in week one. I've got him. No. Both, both this and both. That's right. Jeez. I'm never ever, man. Don't know what to tell you. What the fuck beats me. And the funny thing is this is because you forgot to. Oh no, you could have happened anyway, right? Cause you could have happened. Who knows? You're still in the same. I was in the same spot. Yes. Yeah.
00:06:34
Speaker
But still, uh, anyway, so George and I will, we'll score off in super rugby, you and Duncan, and then it'll be Mark and Justin, and then Cobus and Carrick week one. And the FYI, there are three weeks left, I think in prem FRD until we start hitting into semi-finals territory. So right down the hatches and hang on tight kids. I'm holding on to both hands on my butt cheek. That close to being just out.
00:07:04
Speaker
Yep. Keep going. I'm literally that close because I'm playing against Mark. So yeah. You really need to pull it off, man. Keep going. Otherwise you're in the cycle bracket and there's still points there though. Remember that there's still points in the cycle bracket. That's true. Just don't, just don't lose the sack. Oh, that's usually the number one deal. Yeah. No, I feel like I'm all right there. Cause I feel like I'm better than mobile, whatever we'll move on.
00:07:32
Speaker
or I say something stupid. Yep.
Rugby Leagues Analysis and Predictions
00:07:34
Speaker
All right. So let's go to, cause we got loads to talk about. Let's do this or that real quick or super, super rich six nations. I just counting. I don't know that Wales and England will play. I know it's really stupid. I can't advocate to start any of either of those teams. Not right now. No, no. So that kind of narrows it down. Right. So, um,
00:08:02
Speaker
What'd you say? Buy or skoom in as you're shooting right now? Oh, no skoom in. Again, volume guy, France, solid defensively, but at the same time, that's like he that won't slow him down from what he does. He's going to get a shit ton of carries for, you know, one or two meters. And then maybe he'll break through because their their props get tired pretty quickly. So yeah, he'll he'll wear them down.
00:08:33
Speaker
So I'm assuming it's on my team. There you go. Porter or Beelam? Oof. I, I, I, I, I, I, Beelam at this point. Yeah. Although Porter could score still, but Beelam, more fun for me. A little more there. Porter or Foschetti.
00:08:57
Speaker
Fischetti, because I feel like the Italian position is he's he's another volume guy. And he's been doing well. Yeah. And I like he'll still find gaps in Ireland's defense because they're there and he takes advantage of them when they're like. A little loose, like just a little in the loose, and I think that's. Yeah, he's going to make the tens life miserable. Hook Keller or Martian?
00:09:26
Speaker
Call her, I think. Yeah. Especially since I'm playing this week anyway. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, there's going to be more space there. Yep. Turner or Martian? Martian. Yeah. Again, another guy. Not quite sure. Turner is real yet. Yeah.
00:09:51
Speaker
Yeah, Martian will, the way he scores, he'll score against Scotland. If he even, you know, wait, wait, the things he does well to get them fantasy points will, they'll be there against Scotland. Agreed. James locks. So James Ryan or Tebow Flamel? Flamel's got top score so far. I still like James, especially against Italy. James Ryan. I like Flamel, but
00:10:20
Speaker
Um, I'd also like to spend my, my, my French players elsewhere. So it's where, yeah. So flamen or a rusa. Oh, ooh. Uh, flamen. Cause I think he gets, I think that's a better matchup for him against Scotland. I think, yeah, it was just going to be outmatched against Ireland. That's not, that's not, I don't know. That's going to be a tough day for the, I think the whole thing. Um, so we'll pen, we'll pen in, um,
00:10:50
Speaker
at the very, at the very least, probably Algritte and Van de Fleer into most people's lineups. Yeah. Uh, so the third, is it Doris? Do you use another island spot there? It's either to me, it's either Doris or Ollivall. Okay. So you're using one, so, you know, one or the other. Yeah. Um, Ollivall or Jamie Ritchie? Ollivall. Jamie Ritchie or Matt Fagerson?
00:11:22
Speaker
Fagerson. Again, volume runs. So he'll get like an odd broken tackle because somebody will fall off in the tackle. Yeah, I think that's more likely. DuPont's probably penciled in for most people's one. Number one for nine. Number two. Is it Ben White? Gibson Parkback.
00:11:48
Speaker
No. I don't think you'd be back this term at all. OK. OK. Well, fuck, that sucks. Yeah, it does. Ben White then. Yeah. Ben White's probably your number two, right? Yeah. Really not. Really not a competition for anybody else. No. Yeah. Really, I mean, especially if we're not talking about England and Wales. Yeah. Right. No, there's no one else. Because Varny, Varny, no. Yeah, I'm not Varny. I'm not good enough right now.
00:12:20
Speaker
uh sexton or fin sexton they'll be kicking a lot yeah say with the tea so let's yeah without the tea into macro fin oh i still i'd still go fin i think he's gonna meet he's like he's gets ridiculous try assists because
00:12:47
Speaker
So yeah, he has to put one kick right and it's beautiful and try and he does that a lot. So King Horn is listed as a fly half here. So King Horn or into Mac without the team. If King Horn's starting, I might go him because he's still he's another outside. He's literally an outside back. Right. And he'll get outside back runs.
00:13:11
Speaker
But if he's, if, you know, otherwise into Mac. Yep. Obviously. So I guess that would be King Horn then. Yeah. Center's Ringrose still kind of pinned in there. Number one. I'm leaning towards you. OK, so huge. You're number one. Number one. I. Again, it's an it's a Scotland player and Ringrose has been in.
00:13:38
Speaker
He's he did what he scored a try, which kind of boosted him, but it was kind of a garbage. I know it's not really covered, but it's like. I don't know. I'm not was it garbage time? I can't recall. Well, he wasn't so garbage time. OK. What was it? So it was round. It was the last round and they won. Oh, it was. Yeah, it was. It was to put the game away. Yeah, it was really to ice it. Yeah, it was. It's not quite garbage time. Not quite garbage time.
00:14:09
Speaker
He's still like that's the one time he's really shown up so i'm not sure I'm not sure like Hugh jones has been right at this point is on a heater. So i'm gonna ride that so maybe those might be my one too Yeah, all right. Well rainbows are fiku And then that this matchup heavily favors ringrose Yeah, yeah, probably this could be this this could be a free for all from from ireland. So
00:14:39
Speaker
Um, FICU or McCloskey for my own. Ooh. Probably FICU. FICU or Tuipolotu from Scotland. Definitely FICU. FICU has the better match up there. That's all. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, back three. One times. Um,
00:15:07
Speaker
So your number one and number two right now are, if he's kicking Ramos and then Duhan. Duhan, yeah, Duhan, absolutely. So then after that, some question of who else? Keenan Olo.
00:15:25
Speaker
Oh, that's a flip a coin because you're going to, you know, whatever you pick is going to be the wrong choice. Yeah. Isn't it right? Isn't that the truth? I mean, everybody out there, let me know who you pick and I'm going to pick the opposite and we'll see how it goes. We'll see how this goes. Because it's like, yeah, I don't want to make that choice myself because it's no, because I think I chose low again.
00:15:47
Speaker
And because I was like, yeah, Keenan's been kind of quiet. And then, no, hey, I picked low against France. All right. So, yeah. Oh, no, it did work all right. But didn't Keenan like go nuts? First week. Ridiculous points. Oh, it was first week. First week. Yeah. OK. First week. And that's what I always remember. I think I think I backed low again. And no. I don't know. Fuck.
00:16:15
Speaker
especially against Italy, it could be it's both of them, actually, they might be they might be like, I might be them in Duhan for me. If I can, if I can sort it that way. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Oh, wait, that would fuck that fuck a lot up. Oh, whatever. I'll sort it out. Sort yourself out. No, or one of the Irish guys. Irish guys. Okay.
00:16:46
Speaker
I know. Because I think he's more likely to score a try. Kaputso or Mack Hanson. I think I'd go Kaputso. Yeah. Because he'll get a lot more opportunities. Yeah. Between Ringrose and Lowe and Keenan. And being on the other side of the, you know, being on the right wing.
00:17:16
Speaker
Yeah, I'm going to go with the other, those other three. Right. Tough, tough days for Mac Hanson, not to say he's been playing badly. He's just, you know, he's doing very well. He's doing very well when he gets the ball. But the thing is like, he's not being given the ball in the kind of threatening positions that the other two are. Cause they're setting him up. They're sending those other two up and not really giving him their best. So right. Making the best of a better situation. Yeah, really, really playing the role really well. Yeah.
00:17:44
Speaker
Okay. It's good.
Premiership Rugby Predictions and Recommendations
00:17:46
Speaker
Prom starts it. Okay. I believe I start. Oh, you have, you have two. No, I have three, three for the other one, which we both have three for that one. Yep. One days, one day's over here. Um, okay. So we have bath and Bristol. Hmm.
00:18:11
Speaker
Um, my sheet is unsorted. That's not good. Anyway, it doesn't matter. Uh, bath have been, have surrounded points here and there. They're not as leaky as Bristol though, but they are still, they still have given up points been better. So, and Bristol kind of the same Bristol have been a little bit leakier. So for bath, um,
00:18:35
Speaker
I don't love any of the forwards, except for maybe the front row. And especially since obviously one way or another, I think Bass England contingent is, Bristol's forward England contingent will be away. So it won't, even if they don't play, it won't matter. So I think, well, this past week. So yeah. And that being more on the defensive end of.
00:18:58
Speaker
Yeah. Bristol for against the front row. So, so yeah, I think I like that. And after that's kind of, um, although Bayless. Yeah. Bayless. Maybe he's a, maybe like that's a, you know, pinch type of thing. Um, Spencer's been good and he had the tea. So apart from that card last week, he would have been fine. He would have been fine. He was over 10 points. Yeah. Yeah. So thumbs up to that, which means either 10 is not really somebody I need a part of.
00:19:28
Speaker
And if you need a 10 to start a 10, then all right, cool. But that's really all that's all it's going to serve as for a while. The centers have been great red path. JJ's turned back the clock a little bit. So I'm okay with any of those guys.
00:19:45
Speaker
The wings are decent and I think there'll be more space this week than there was last week. So, um, certainly give the thumbs up to Coco who's been pretty good most of the year in Gallagher. Scoring a pinch is okay. He needs to get back on the horror. I think he's still coming back from injury and all that, but yeah.
00:20:02
Speaker
We'll get there. Ben's been a little time with Scotland too. For Bristol, so yeah, front row's probably still good, especially since Thack are still playing. Bradbury's the only other forward I'm really interested in right now. Randall, yes.
00:20:19
Speaker
AJ is good. James Williams has the tee for Bristol right now. So I think I believe he's listed as a midfielder. That's a thumbs up for me right now. It's not pretty, but it can be a cheap 12 points in there, give or take. So I'll give that a thumbs up. Rads is a go. Nalago. Yes.
00:20:39
Speaker
Their full backs haven't been good. So I don't like any of them right now Lane was was kind of their good fullback for a while, but he's or whatever it was their other outside back. That was good for a while. He's kind of falling away. If it's all I should be fine. Last week was an anomaly in my eyes. So hmm. There's that All right off to stone X for saris hosting Unfortunate Newcastle Falcons
00:21:09
Speaker
not a place you want to be. If you're the Falcons, let's put it this way. Um, Sarah's been, but you know, what are the implications fantasy wise? Well, Saracen's the number one attack and number fifth fantasy defense, which a lot has to do with that from last week when, when they had guys go off on them. Um, I did some backhand calculations and conservatively, I think, uh, um,
00:21:38
Speaker
What visa had almost 30 and I'm pretty sure that Mike Brown had over 30, based on his ridiculous right so yeah. Yeah, they got they. This is a big. I was a big off week for them which is why they're in the fifth defense Newcastle or 13th and attack and ninth and defense they're not putting up much really.
00:21:58
Speaker
Um, so fantasy wise for the saris, their front row. Yes. I think Ben Earl, who was released back to the team will have something to say this match. Um, I believe when a polo will also have something to say, cause he's been good. So keep playing him. And then, um, hopefully Vinsel is starting at nine. I would really, really like to see that again. Um, and then if he is, then go with the entire back line, cause they'll be okay. Even if good's at 10, I'm not really a fan of that, but, um,
00:22:27
Speaker
I wouldn't shy away in this match. On the other side, Newcastle front row, because they're still potentially scoring tries. And aside from that in the forwards, Pepper, Guy Pepper, if he plays. And then it might be within the new 20s. OK, and Redwyn and Carreras, you kind of get thrown up a prayer there because it's not going to look good on the road here against Saracens. Penny, if he's at 15, is worth a midfield shot, because even if he only gets you seven points,
00:22:57
Speaker
Cause he'll run, he'll get enough meters carried cause they like to kick. Um, even if he doesn't score, so he'd be put up decent midfield points at 15. Right. Right. Yeah. All right. This will be a fun one. No Tampton in Gloucester. Yoo hoo. Let's do it. Gloucester have been a little better defensively lately, but yeah, uh, still Northampton do know how to attack as we found out.
00:23:26
Speaker
Or let's start with the Saints front row. I still want nothing to do with, especially while Sam out of AC. Um, locks. If you're hot for a lock, ribbons is probably not bad. Cole's is my preference of, of the, from this team. Um, suck. I love to, if he, if he's back from suspension, which yet. Yeah. I don't know that it risk it on him. He's kind of loving any ish at this point. That's all he, that's the first time I've seen good card. Really? Oh, maybe.
00:23:53
Speaker
I don't think you got a red. Sorry, I was thinking Simmons. Sorry. Oh, yeah. No, no, no. Yeah. Right. Country. Wrong. Wrong guy. Yeah. Yeah. I think I think he's probably in the same territory as Cole. So just keep your eyes peeled on the lineups and all that. Truck is definitely my favorite other forward besides those guys. Scott Young in a pinch and we love them still with England. Right. So that's that's no go. Right.
00:24:20
Speaker
Alex Mitchell, like Tom James has been, it's actually been pretty good. So he gets a thumbs up for me. Uh, if, if Ben Smith's in one piece, he's a, he's definitely a star at the midfield is good. And then I think, yeah, it'll be probably two out of the three OBS that hit. It's just a matter of which ones, um,
00:24:39
Speaker
we might, we'll probably see Freeman because he got released, right? So we'll probably see him back at fullback. So he's a thumbs up, Rams, a thumbs up, which means the third guy's probably going to be the odd person out, which it could be slaves. It could be Collins. Like, you know, that's really hard to say. Yeah. Yeah. That's going to be really hard to leave it out. And maybe they all get, you know, sufficient points, which could be only about 10 or 11 when the other guys get like 20, but you take it for Gloucester. So, um,
00:25:09
Speaker
If you read my boom bust, you're going to read all about the forwards and how I'm not excited about them, except the front row. As per se, with Rapopo Ruskin still on there, he's got a point to prove. None of their other forwards I'm excited about. So bench them. And I know this is Northampton, so we'll probably get one. You can throw
00:25:28
Speaker
pasta at the wall and see if it sticks, but I don't know which one of them it's going to be. Honestly, it's really hard to tell because it's consistent. Right. If El Amado is going to fucking show up this year, it's this match. So, yeah, I mean, he's, he's actually been one of the better lock score. So maybe that's not El Amado. Sorry. I was thinking Ackerman. Sorry. Oh, Ackerman. Yeah. Yeah. No, no, no. Yeah. If he's actually going to perform well, which, um,
00:25:52
Speaker
I can tell you that because I was already doing the numbers before with my article. He said 13 matches where he's had 60 minutes or more. He's got three 10 point games in those in those 13 matches. So 10 less than less than 10. Right. Right. But if he's going to score over 10 again, it's going to be in this match. So if you're looking to gamble on anybody, I'd
00:26:17
Speaker
That might, it might be him or Ludlow. I wouldn't do too much. Right. No. No, no, no. Um, the nines I'm not interested in thought he was.
00:26:28
Speaker
Yeah, okay Yeah, so I'm not interested in either nines unless it's Chapman starting means not worth your time as a halfback if Carreras plays like you did last week this week, then he should rip this team apart. So Is re-Semitism still? Depending I don't know what the news is true. Yeah with whales and everything I would assume that if he's available whales want him if they if they're gonna play this thing
00:26:58
Speaker
So there's that, uh, the center said, set back into over all of them at this point. Like he's the only one that's even put up a decent number lately. So yes. Um, then other than that, thoroughly, if he's healthy, I think he's, I think you leave with an HIA last week, eventually. I think I can't recall how he left. I don't think it was good. Yeah, maybe not. But.
00:27:20
Speaker
Well, he didn't know. I don't think he did think he came back. So that's the good news there. Um, yeah, that's a, and that's everyone I'm interested in that game. All right. Now off to, um, exiles hosting Lester, um, exiles are fourth at attack, second in defense, which is weird. Um, to me, I feel like they give up a lot more points than that. Lester a ninth in attack and 12th in defense. They just don't.
00:27:47
Speaker
have much oomph. And they didn't get nearly as much of a boost as Saturday. Irishons did get a crunch from that game. But then you look at the Irish for their, you know, fantasy wise, their front row is kind of a maybe kind of for them. I think they got over 10 points as last match. They might keep it up. They've been consistently not like that. So, but at the same time, maybe throw them out there. Gonzo or Pearson,
00:28:15
Speaker
That's it in the forwards. Pearson's so good. And Gonzalo has actually had a pretty meh game this past week, which is surprising because the points were on offer, just Pearson took them all. And then the entire back line for the exiles.
00:28:32
Speaker
Maybe not Powell so much, but, um, everyone else should still do just fine. Yep. Um, for Lester visa is really the only forward I'd want, um, Pollard the centers and the wings are kind of line up dependent and don't, don't go near youngs. Nope. Not quite there, man. We ain't there yet.
00:28:54
Speaker
Yeah, fine. Like even I, I'm, I might just stick with Jennings at this point from the, from the, from the exiles. Cause, uh, again, maybe he'll, you know, he's getting, you know, I'll get the points from something goes sideways. Yeah. Right. That too. So, all right. Exeter and sale down at the butt crack.
00:29:17
Speaker
Um, yeah, right. So here's, here's the fun news. Sale are still dicks. So they're going to make life hard even after last week when they surrendered a bunch of points. So that's says a lot about how well they played in terms of defense. No, they're going to, they're going to be angry here and that's not, I don't, I don't feel bad for, do not feel bad for Exeter. What's about to befall them. No, uh, for Exeter.
00:29:44
Speaker
I don't feel confident in the front row right now. So I can't recommend them. Um, Simmons got released. So that's a possibility there in terms of their forwards. That's probably all I'm interested in. Honestly. Yeah. Capstick hasn't been showing me much of much. No, he doesn't even know you've been in the team. Like she's a sailor going to throw their everything. Yeah. That's going to be mad. They're going to be mad. Uh, the monitors. Nope. Um,
00:30:11
Speaker
I'm worried about Simmons this week as we are anytime a 10 plays against Sayle, they've just been dicks to him. So just kind of keep your eyes on that one. Midfield... I don't love it. I really don't. That's like the one place they can be had. So Slade, because he's probably the better of the two midfielders. Slade's not going to be around, though. Is he in any of the camp? I'm pretty sure. Okay. Well, never mind. Shut up.
00:30:40
Speaker
I'll shut up. I don't remember. We've seen that. Which means which means we'll probably see old man. Witten wheeled out there in which case, definitely stay away from that. And that's still out there. Yeah, because there's only Simmons who's dropped. OK, so and then and then for the back three hodge hodge has been amazing. I think Woodburn will be fine as well. Like they're probably plays even if they don't get like their usual numbers, they're still probably plays. So there's just.
00:31:11
Speaker
temper expectations, just a tiny bit, um, for sale. So exit are not as stiff in defense. That's the good news. So for the sharks, um, front row is probably okay. If Ashman's involved. I liked, I liked most of what he didn't borrow that yellow card.
00:31:32
Speaker
Um, or that little blip, you know, not so much here or there, but, you know, and Rod's still around. Yeah. So, yep. Rod, Rod was released back. Yep. So I'd give that one a go. Um, and then we have John Luke, who might be back at lock this week. It sounds like DDP could be on the mend finally. Yeah. Um, I just signed him too, because I think he's playing this match. Yep. Uh, Tom Curry's been great in FRD. So I believe he's been released back. So he's a go as well.
00:32:02
Speaker
And then I don't love war as a FRD nine. I don't love them as a nine period, but I don't love them as an FRD nine, especially quirks. The only nine I mentioned in there are Bobby dupes. As we've said, he's a, he's a go. Definitely. The midfield is a whole lot of meh. So no. Um, so here's a question for you. What's that? What if they go, cause Ford was also released. So what if they go forward to dupes?
00:32:29
Speaker
That's going to be hard to justify both because. Somebody needs to see, and that's part of the value for both of them. So it is, but do this has been a good runner. He's been a very good, just rugby player lately. So that's why I'm like, yeah. Right. You're not going to have a T, but.
00:32:48
Speaker
Um, we already know this is going to be looking at probably one team that doesn't start a fly half, quote unquote at fly half. So, um, you may be in a pension. You need to start one of these two guys. So, all right. I can, I could live with it personally. Well, that's okay. I just wanted to bring up the possible. No, it's an idea. Good point.
00:33:08
Speaker
And then, uh, back three. Yes. Uh, I like a lot of what's going on back there between Reed Roebuck, uh, O'Flaherty and Carpenter, especially. And even if it's not Carpenter and it's Luke James again, Luke James has been pretty good when he's been in there. So those are all thumbs ups for me right now. Never gonna say that about sale outside backs, but here we are. Right. It's the phrase of the day. Here we are.
00:33:34
Speaker
And I think this also is a very good matchup. Cause as you said, Exeter's defense is not
Super Rugby Week One Discussion
00:33:38
Speaker
exit or anymore. And, you know, the sailor, the kind of team that can walk into Sandy park and not be intimidated by that, that definitely not. No, that was like, all right, let's just, let's go. Let's pull, you know, let's see who's the better rugby team. And it's going to be so I know we haven't gotten into that part yet. They're going to smush. Uh, so let's do start the week here and then we'll go and we'll go to super. All right.
00:34:06
Speaker
Yeah, go ahead, Leo Softo. Mine's very simple. It's Ben Earl for what he's about to do to Newcastle. CMC's. CMC's. Copied the homework. The homework wasn't hard. That was kindergarten homework. That's what that was. It's going to be ugly. It is. But sit. Sit of the week.
00:34:33
Speaker
This is a surprise because I was kind of looking at actual top scorers and whatnot recently, just because I have something to do. Harry Potter is up there, which is crazy. He's like one of the top. He gets a good like 11 points a match. It's not like
00:34:54
Speaker
outstanding, but it just adds up. But I'm still going to have him as a sit. The Exiles are actually number one against wings. I'm not sure how well exactly Lester's attack is going to travel. I think they're going to have to try to just shut him down.
00:35:13
Speaker
Yeah, kind of set up camp to the more than. Yeah. Beat him with speed because. Yeah, it'd be tough out there. Right. Even without, you know, without Hassel Collins, although was he returned to the team too, I think. Yes. He's hurt.
00:35:27
Speaker
Okay. Oh, that's right. Yeah. So that's going to be a no go for how it has on columns either way. Probably. You still have Cinti self loader. And yes. Yes. And Stokes has been playing pretty well. Stokes has had a fucking match. Yeah. So it's going to be those two. Uh,
00:35:45
Speaker
going with the same theme as last week. Uh, and just because neither guy has played well for their club, the, the, this club in particular. And the opposition is just really unfriendly. So my syllabus is going to be Joe Simmons or whoever the hell plays 10 for exit or might be heavy scanner. Who knows? Not gonna be great. No, it's not gonna be a fun day either way. That's a very good call there. That's all I know. That's very much in the vein of the general for what he's about to do. Yeah.
00:36:16
Speaker
Yeah, it's we're like the XL. I'm sorry. Exeter 10 for what is about to be done to him. Yeah, it's going to hurt. It's going to hurt a lot. OK. Taking it to them. Or do we do that? Are we doing that? We're doing that. We're doing that afterwards. We're going to go the first start set for super rugby of the season.
Super Rugby Team Analysis and Strategies
00:36:37
Speaker
All right. You got your guys. So we're leaving. All right. OK, so first off, crusaders and hosting chiefs.
00:36:47
Speaker
Fuck, this one, I don't even know where it's going to go, but the guys who are going to score, the Crusaders, their front row could still, is really the, that's the only position I really want of theirs in the forwards. I'm not really that, their flankers don't really score that much or it's unpredictable who will. So kind of best to avoid, they're inconsistent as individuals. But then Mwunga obviously is probably in your top,
00:37:16
Speaker
One or two picks or three at the worst You're gonna start them Whoever's it, you know skip the 12, but the 13 and the any outside backs are full on goes. Yeah for the Chiefs the front row Maybe the locks
00:37:39
Speaker
Depends on who they are, but Vaie is, yes, especially if he's at flank. Peter Gus is a full go because he's one of those guys. He's finding, again, him in space is troublesome and Chiefs have been good at getting involved in space. DMACC, I hope he's not playing fly half. I really want him at 15. If he's at fly half, it's going to...
00:38:02
Speaker
Yeah, I'm not not exactly excited about it. I wouldn't be either way. I think the centers will score well because that's that's going to be his one pass is to a center. So that'll be all right. But still, the back three could do OK, because, you know, they could finish pretty well off the centers, too. Yeah, as long as centers can get loose. Yeah, it's going to it's it's going to be interesting to see how the Chiefs attack and how the Crusaders defend. But and then how the Crusaders just kind of. Become a machine in school.
00:38:32
Speaker
With the players, you know who we're going to score. As I said, you know, 12, 13 outside backs. Yeah. All right. Taas and Brumbes. So Brumbes were not quite as dominant as you would think in terms of the defensive between these two. One was two, almost three last year in terms of fantasy defense. So might not be quite the same this year, but
00:38:59
Speaker
Should be some similarities. Just the same. Still going to be a fucking slugfest. Yes. I read more than a points fest. Yeah. Uh, so for the toss. So I, I don't know if I love any of their bow words, maybe Charlie gamble. Yeah. And then we talked about it on the, on the draft pod.
00:39:20
Speaker
front row and Jed Holloway would be the other one I could think of. I just don't know what Hoops is going to bring right now. So that's a huge question mark over my head. Jake Gordon was one of the best half backs in FRD last year. So he's a thumbs up right now. Um, their 10 situations kind of weird. I don't, it could be, I think it's going to be Donaldson, but I don't know. So, um, but I think I'm okay with it either way. Um, should,
00:39:46
Speaker
should be a good attack. They're at home. I think they're reopening their stadium this year too, and this might be the opener, so they're not playing at the crazy ground anymore. I don't think. Don't quote me on that one though. Anywho, I think I'm okay with it. It's just the same. And then Parise in the backs, and then also Marky Mark.
00:40:07
Speaker
Obviously not there. And then we might see Nadello. So why not? Let's see what he got. So I only hope I can only hope I really want to see him. How he goes here. Same. Yeah. How they react to him. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Remember this big motherfucker. He's back. Right.
00:40:26
Speaker
Uh, Brumby's Brumby front row is usually a good, a good thumbs up. So I'm okay with that. Uh, Valettini in the back row is definitely a go. I think Samu as well. And then that's probably it for that. Uh, Lonergan is my favorite halfback in this, in there, in this team. So he's got, he's the only go for me there. Uh, we'll see. Oh, yes. Uh, Ikitao is a full on. Yes. And then we're looking at, uh, the like so bright and your head, I think in the back three there. So I.
00:40:55
Speaker
pretty okay with all that as well. All right, off to Moana Pacifica and Fiji Drua. Lots of points potentially on offer here. From Moana though, we talked about some of the losses like Stowers here is in this match is troublesome, right? That was a lot of points that aren't going to be there now.
00:41:22
Speaker
and said Leofano should still run that back line smoothly. Both the centers we talked about in the previews, yes, please, and the back three, whoever they are. We don't know the lineups yet, so we're just kind of putting those two players that I'm looking at. Right, that's where you're going to look. If you're looking to add from this team, that's where you're going to look. For the Drua,
00:41:47
Speaker
Mira Mira and the loose forwards, we talked about him in the preview. He's excellent fantasy wise too. Lomani, a little disappointing last year, fantasy wise. Again, I think he's going to take a step forward this year because the players around him are more on that level and we can work with him. And then Teddy Teller, Teddy Teller at 10, Voda and Revovo in the centers. Yes, please. Rattave at outside back.
00:42:17
Speaker
I'm not sure beyond that though. I'm going to need to see, you know, see the lineups, but you know, probably the other two back three as well. Yeah, definitely. Okay. Highlanders and blues. Bad news for Highlanders. Blues were the number one team in defense last year. Godspeed for the Highlanders. At least the Blues weren't the number one attack. Oh, wait, they were like,
00:42:42
Speaker
I think there were two. They were one. They were one. They were one. Wait a minute. Something about that doesn't sound right. Yeah, they were once. We got there eventually. So for the Highlanders, I think Mitch Hunt starts this game, so I'm OK with that. Forward-wise, their front row doesn't do it for me right now. It might get better over the year, but it doesn't do it for me right now.
00:43:10
Speaker
Marina Michaeli too. It was probably my favorite forward. Otherwise they're, um, but Katava, if he's in, yes. Otherwise Aaron Smith doesn't again, doesn't do it for me. You know, party hate to say it. Um, score. I mean, it's score points. He, he, he makes a lot of passes. He does some cool shit, but, um, points, I think. Umaga Jensen, um,
00:43:39
Speaker
the one brother, the one brother. Yes. And then, geez, you know, it's, it's hard to tell. I think the why maybe, and then we'll see what happens. Nurekki is probably a go. Yeah. If he's anything like he used to be.
00:43:55
Speaker
He's going to destroy people, so he'll win you weeks. So that's probably the only like back that I'm excited to play from the islanders right now. I agree. It'll probably change over the weeks. But for now, that is that is how it is. Blues, otherwise. So front row is a big ol' thumbs up. Akira and Satutu, yes. Papa Lee, yes. Finley Christie, yes. I like what he's got. I like what's happening with that. Bodhi Barrett.
00:44:26
Speaker
Yeah, I don't know that guy, but yeah, on Christie, like, especially since we were talking about, you know, later national rugby recently. So the game just goes to a different speed for him. And that's a good thing in this case, although he is ill and is, uh, iffy for this one. Okay. We'll see. We'll see. Hopefully not. I think I have him in one league against him in pink slips. So, um, yeah, that might be more desperation there. Uh, anyway.
00:44:46
Speaker
Yeah, especially since we
00:44:56
Speaker
Uh, Rico and two of us a shack. Yes. Clark. Parafetta. Um, yeah, the, the back three are definitive. Yeses. Um, where did.
00:45:12
Speaker
As I'm thinking about this in my head, where did the hounders finish on this whole thing? Yeah. Bottom half of the points stable in terms of points given up. So yeah, this could be a good matchup for anybody that's got a blue. Yeah. You want, you want blues on your team this, this, this week, especially. Um, all right. Now I get to evaluate your guys, uh, reds hosting hurricanes for the reds. It's just a.
00:45:39
Speaker
Yes, please, kind of up and down the lineup. The front row is a big old bucket of yes. Their back row is a big old bucket of yes, McRate, Wilson, Uru, all you can throw in there and expect 10 points or more. McDermott. Now, the question mark here is whoever is who's at 10. Because if O'Connor is mending, again, I've heard that Lina may be starting, so I'm kind of
00:46:06
Speaker
leaning towards that possibly being true because apparently he did light it up during the trials. I've added him on both of my teams because I had, well, in one of them I have O'Connor and the other one it's like, Hey, he's, I cut whoever was my shot in the dark, like my last pick of the draft and added him. Cause I'm like, okay, no, I'll, I'll, I'll put money on that a little bit rather than like Neepkins. Yeah, no, no, thank you. Yeah.
00:46:34
Speaker
some someone who apparently if he's lighting it up go with it then pataya and the outside backs um but the hurricanes already all day all night yes please if you should be a first round pick if not a second rounder um if you got in the second round you're kind of probably lucked out um aid morgan uh
00:46:57
Speaker
If he's at 10, Jordy in the back three, yes. I'm not sure who's going to be at what position at center, which their 13 should do well. Yeah, that'll be interesting. But they have options as to who they can put and how they want to arrange them. I'm also wondering if they put Jordy at 12, then you still start him and you still start the rest of the back three. Yeah, right. Sorry, that's just how it works. About that. About that.
00:47:28
Speaker
Okay. That leads us to. Of the weeks. Uh, Nope. Force rebels first. Oh, okay. That's right. I went first. Not quite there. Force force and rebels. Okay. So rebels were barely legal last year. They were the worst in the league and actually by a fairly large margin. So they, they just surrendered buckets of points. I'm not sure that'll be the case this year. I'm not convinced that'll be the case this year. You like to think that they'll stiffen up a little bit.
00:47:57
Speaker
It's hard to think it won't be though. Great. You wonder. Yeah, I wonder. So for the force. So I liked. I.
00:48:12
Speaker
catch you a little bit last year in that front row, but I'm just still a little cautious with it. So in a pinch, the front row is okay. Um, otherwise meh King Kateka, if you remember last year, he was pretty good. So I would go, I'd give him a shot in the dark as well. I think it was antsy. That was the, that was the other one that came off the. Yeah. And Steve was very good last year. Yeah. So when he got the chance.
00:48:34
Speaker
He's a possibility as well, uh, either half back. I'm okay with right now. Cause they both scored fairly well last year. Um, I actually got both of them. I handcuffed them in our, uh, in, um, what do you call it? Thanks. Okay. Yeah. Interesting. Should be interesting.
00:48:52
Speaker
is nobody, I hope, probably no one will want to trade for them. So now I just have half backs. Yeah. So 10, 12, 13 is going to be very interesting for this team. It's not really clear who's going to have it. And I'm also wondering is prior going to take the T away from the 10. So that's the concern I have as well. So just kind of keep your eyes peeled for that one. I think I'm okay with any of them, especially if you're in desperation mode.
00:49:18
Speaker
So that's good. Um, Montala is a definitive. Yes. For the, for the backline though. Definitely go with that. Um, yeah, I don't know if I don't know if I love much else other than that. Uh, all right. So for the rebels, we talk about on the preview, got to, you got to find something to like on this team. If you're a rebels fan and you're.
00:49:44
Speaker
You've got some inside scoops. Please share. Um, cause right now, cause I love Melbourne. I used to visit there all the time for work and I miss it. Right. Isn't, isn't our guy Scott Martin down there too? Yeah, that too.
00:49:59
Speaker
He's an attacking coach. So the defensive, that's not, that's not his, that's not his 40, not his circuits, not his monkeys. No, uh, something to the degree. Um, Anywho. So force Liotta was one we talked about before he was, he was fairly decent. So he's, he's okay with me. The nines. I have no idea what's going to happen with that. If it's, um, Sarovi.
00:50:23
Speaker
He's got the more likelihood, the scoot, I think of them all. So that's okay. I guess Carter Gordon, I will, I would give a thumbs up too. He was okay last year and he's got more time under his belt now. So I can live with that decision. Um, those centers were kind of male last year. So I'm going to need to see something special out of that. Uh, I'll why Monte Iwani is a big thumbs up though, because he w he was destroying it before he'll continue to destroy it. I have no question about that in my mind.
00:50:51
Speaker
Um, and the other reason I would even consider, um, research is if he's had the T and he's fucking playing like the research from like three years ago. Cause last year's research was terrible. Right. Although he was coming off of injury. So maybe, maybe it's possible. I hope it's possible. I drafted in one of our leaks. All right. Now to the, now to the other weeks. Yes.
00:51:17
Speaker
Now we're there. And I was way ahead of you because I, if I had named my other week, um, it would have stolen some of your thunder there at the end. Um, my start of the week is cause the rebels have, as you said, been just poop on defense and it's been a couple of years now. Um, I started the week as Manasseh Mattali. Dude, you copied my homework. I swear. Yes. Manasseh Mattali is mine as well. Like it was kind of a.
00:51:46
Speaker
It's kind of an easy one. Like he was so good last year and the rebels were so bad. Right. So very bad. And the way he was good is just, um, like he's, he's mean to, it's not like he's just fast. It's that he will like shove you over before he, as he runs by, like he's, he's, you know, yeah, he'll bring the physicality to it. So. Yeah. It's not so somebody like that. Doesn't often go into slums. Right.
00:52:19
Speaker
All right. So sits. What do you offer sits there, chief? I think you, you kind of talked about mine, um, going up against the blues. Um, I, if, you know, if you're looking, if you have a midfielders, um, with the name, Umaga Jensen, Tuj is not the one starting this week.
00:52:43
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Don't know. No. Stay away. Poor fellow. So I don't know what this guy's going to bring coming into the season. If anything, if he's playing, he's going to be a little bit. I think he's going to be a little reserved personally, and maybe that's just putting it the wrong way, but
00:53:10
Speaker
I just don't know if Michael Hooper is going to be Michael Hooper of old and the Brumby's defense has been good.
00:53:19
Speaker
Yeah. Already consistently over the years. That's a good call. I think it's, and that is not a knock on him. I love the guy. I think he's a wonderful player. I just don't know if this is going to be the guy that you want us to lose forward when there are, as we discussed on Saturday, many options. So right. Let someone else take that risk. Yeah. Someone, someone will, but not you. I believe it's going to be great.
00:53:50
Speaker
All right. Pick them and we are out of here. All right. Okay. So we will start with, and yes, we will pick Wales England. We don't know, but we'll pick it just because. Okay. Yeah. Fine. Just so we're not going, just so we're not going backwards. Italy, Ireland, Ireland, Ireland. Yeah. And I think England as well. Yep. And then that brings us to France and Scotland. Does the slam die in Paris?
00:54:19
Speaker
Yes. Yeah. It's, it's died there many times for Scotland, unfortunately. Yeah. This is where, um, it starts to open back up for, for England. Yeah. So, I mean, in France, figure this one out, forget it. Like they're serious troublemakers all the way down the line up until, um, France in 2020, um, in the fall here. Yeah. This is, this could be a, right.
00:54:49
Speaker
to be a statement statement. All right, Bristol, Newcastle, back to the pram. Oh, not Bristol. Oh, shoot. I messed that up. Sorry. That was the one thing I messed up. Look at that. I already messed up. Okay. Did I actually pick France? Or did we say that? Either way. Yes, I picked France. I picked France as well. Bath Bristol. I want to make sure we get that official. All right. Bath Bristol. Let me get that to my notes. Bristol.
00:55:16
Speaker
Yeah. I think Bristol are playing well and Bath are not, I don't, hmm. I struggle with Bath, especially, um, yeah, I just, I'm not pleased with what I saw. And I don't know if that's like, I don't know what they're going to be able to pick it up against this. Like, especially this is a big old bro, unless last week they were looking ahead to this, which is possible.
00:55:40
Speaker
It is. But also Bristol, Bristol had every reason to and again, I think they think Bristol are more desperate for a win. Yeah, they need it more. Because again, Pat Lamb needs to save his job and he can't be losing to bath even on the road. And if no matter what else happens the rest of the year, if it's bad, it's that's it's easily his job. So I think this is a I think the desperation takes over. Okay. Yeah, the point about
00:56:10
Speaker
this being Pat Lam's job. No, the players don't want him to lose this job. Like, no, he's a well-liked coach. He is. And they know that he wouldn't be unemployed very long either. Right. Like, he's not the one that's out there fucking it up. Like, he's he's given them the tools they need. They're just not executing the way they need to. No, not not very well at all. All right. Sarris, Newcastle, Sarris. Sorry, Newcastle. Very angry, Sarris.
00:56:40
Speaker
He's angry. Uh, Northampton Gloucester at the gardens there. You just said it. Yeah. That's the only reason. Exiles and Lester Lester. Yeah. They're, they have, I mean,
00:57:03
Speaker
They're oozing. Fuck you right now. Yeah. They're in serious. Fuck you mode. Um, all right. Exeter and sale sale sale sale are going to be angry. Yeah. Another angry bunch. Right. Good luck. Sires are going to be angry and sale are going to be angry. And, um, both of those matches could get ugly. Yep.
00:57:25
Speaker
I'm looking forward to like, um, I know we were, we were asked to be more, more friendly about sale and that's not really the way I want to frame it. I, I, I don't like when they went ugly. Um, I thought last week was they played very pretty. I think they're going to do that again to exit or I think they're going to outclass them. Yeah. Yes. Yes. He's been around, he's been around McCall who, who absolutely knows how to run Exeter.
00:57:54
Speaker
Um, and I think Henderson, I think is a little bit better as a tactician. So sale are going to run them. Yep. That's why, that's why I'm thinking of the Ford, um, do Priya 10, 12. Cause I think that against Exeter would be, uh, spicy. Yeah. I bet.
00:58:17
Speaker
No doubt that. All right. Let's go to the first ones for super rugby crusaders and chiefs. Sorry, buddy. Yeah. Crusaders. I have crusaders too. I, you can't look against them. It's, it's bad juju. It's too hard to toss and Brumby's. It's presumptuous. Um, I got the Brumby's. I'm going to take the more toss. I think this is a battle for second though. That's why I think, and it could be anything. Yeah. Yeah. Uh,
00:58:45
Speaker
Moana and Fujian Jura off the bat. Jura. Yeah. I like the Jura just a little bit better. Yeah. I agree. High unders and blues under the roof. Blues.
00:58:59
Speaker
Reds and Hurricanes. I'm not that one to pick against in Australia. We've started in Australia the last couple of years, I think, and it's not been good. We've got we've right of the ship afterwards, but it's not been good. So not great. Yeah, I just I think Reds are I think Reds are the third best team in this. Yeah, they'll be good comp. So it'll be good force and rebels force force at especially in Western Australia.
00:59:27
Speaker
Yeah, exactly. And the rebels. Oh, man. Yeah. Yeah. I have to step it up to the show something otherwise. Yeah. Okay. That's enough of us talking. We're done. I feel like we've always been talking. Yeah. We just.
00:59:48
Speaker
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01:00:17
Speaker
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Conclusion and Listener Engagement
01:00:30
Speaker
comments. Everybody have a good one. Enjoy. Start making coffee now. Yeah, see you everybody. See you later.