Introduction and Weekly Hockey Recap
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Welcome, everybody, to another edition of the Toogies Take podcast. We are back. Two of the guys, two of the fellas, as I am joined by Mr. Sin for the win to talk about another lovely week in the world of hockey. Sin, how are
Personal Challenges: Quitting Vaping and Smoking
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you? I'm doing pretty good. I got, you know, nicotine gum in my lip right now because I'm this time I'm actually going to quit vaping.
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As someone who, number one, I'm rooting for you. Thank you. But as someone whose parents have smoked like all my life and have gotten close to quitting and tried quitting. Yeah. I'm just going to say I wish you luck because it's primary. Is it difficult? Like, I don't know. It pissed me off that I even started again because I had quit vaping like a year ago. No. No. But before.
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No, I knew you. But it was like when I first moved to Sacramento, I was fucking still vaping off it. Fucking one of those huge mod things I had back when I was like serious about it, buying my juice online and fucking. Yeah. Anyway, and now they just have disposable shit.
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which is great for my green mentality. Um, anyway, uh, you know, fuck my lungs, but I do still care about the plan. Yeah. Um, you know, uh, the fuck, yeah, I completely quit vaping for like multiple years. And then, uh, cause I'd use vaping to quit smoking.
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the second time, first time I used dip, which fucking hell, I don't know why me and my friends for O.R. are all dipping. It's disgusting. Like, holy shit. The old water bottle, you know? Yeah, like, my bottom gums are still a little bit receded from that shit. Yeah. Fuck, I forgot what I was... Yeah, so I quit, and then I picked it up again, because this chick I was kind of...
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flinging with vape and then I just for some reason like oh what is this disposable thing I hit it and then I just did it when I hung out with her and then eventually you know you buy your own you know like god damn it and then every time I go to Finland I just I have nicotine gum and I do that there and then the second I get home I'm just like
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It's like you fall back into that rhythm, you know, so i'm like, all right, I gotta quit while i'm here Because I can't like go back somewhere and fall back into that rhythm, you know, because clearly that doesn't work three different fucking times Where i'm just gnawing on nicotine gum there and then I come home and yeah yeah, I um again, you know mentioning that my parents were smokers and everything like it that is one of those things where
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You are either going to be like your parents or the complete opposite. There's a lot of things. Yeah. And that's the big one for me where it's like I have never had any interest in smoking, vaping. Good for you. I thought I didn't. And then like in high school, like I just decided
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I hung out with a shitty group of people for part of my high school. During my parents going through their divorce at 15, 16, I just started smoking weed every day. Then those people also smoked cigarettes, so I smoked cigarettes. Then just smoked till I was early 20s, I think.
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hadn't fucking asthma attack. I'm like, okay, let's, let's not do this anymore. Yeah. And then even more motivation to never smoking in is, you know, my mom and how she died with a lung disease from that smoking and teaching and fucking as best as filled classrooms for decades. What a
Evolution of the Podcast and Friendship
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start to this podcast. Fantastic. Yeah. It's gone all over the place. It's all right. You know, it's been, it's yeah. Like just, uh,
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It's been over five years now. Isn't that wild, dude? That is. That's a long time. And we've known each other throughout the entirety of that. Mm hmm. Yeah. I mean, we had, you know, we've talked about the kind of story of our friendship of like, oh, this guy does stuff like, you know, that we're both kind of in the same medium of Doom franchise mode, stuff like that. We told the story about the the collab that I completely tanked.
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You fucker. Oh, I totally thought you trolled me too. I thought it was like, oh shit, he's another one of those guys. He's going to be friends with like tactics and x-tech and nasher. And then he's not going to want, I want anything to do with me. He was like, yeah, let's do this. We started off and you're just gone for hours. And apparently you're just min maxing trading for every first round or you can get to then trade for players. And I'm like, wow, you do this way differently than I do. I'm just like, oh, that didn't work. Let me throw in some other bullshit.
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I took the challenge a bit too seriously. I still owe you that collab one of these days and I think we have a good idea for that collab hopefully coming up sometime soon.
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But yeah, no, I mean, that's crazy, right? Because we talked about that and, you know, we've had episodes where people have been like, hey, so like your friendships, how'd they start? And so and so. And, you know, we just kind of talked about like, you know, the. Yeah. You know, especially to the night of just like hanging out in a discord call. That was when I felt like our friendship really became I don't even know if that was the same night or a different night or some fucking shit. But like, yeah, I consider the failed collab of how we met.
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And then that night of staying up for me until fucking 4 a.m. And for you, it's like the actual morning, 7 a.m. And just
Podcast Format Changes and Future
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we're looking at squatting Slavs and tracksuits memes. Just hours on it. God, now that you mentioned it, right? I wonder if that's even still in the Discord. I don't know. You'd have to scroll back pretty far. I don't even know. Were we on Discord at that time?
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I feel like maybe. What else would it have been on? Skype? Was it that long ago? Oh, God, it might have been now that you mention it. Yeah, dude, our first Discord conversation starts in 2020. Oh, my God. I think it was fucking Skype. You know, nothing really puts it into perspective to say, was it on Discord? No, it was on Skype. There's just something about that that just hits really hard.
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but yeah god now that you mention it right just the the amount of time that it's been and a lot of the different changes and experiences in that time and
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Yeah, no, it's been a wild couple of years. And it's funny, right? Because you mentioned the idea of kind of like collabing and everything and the kind of foundation of our friendship. And we talked about this coincidentally the last time Endo couldn't make it for a podcast. Or no, he was here and then had the connection issues. But it was our final show of 2023. And
Shifting Engagement with the NHL
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we spent a lot of time talking about kind of our hockey fandom at that point.
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in how things had changed, right? Because the end of 2023 and really the start of 2024 for the show has been a little bit weird, right? Like we've gone from our two episodes a week down to one, which is
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part schedule based and part for the fact that we were at two a week primarily because of our landscape sponsorship, I would say. And again, we told the story about how they ghosted us. So that's had an interesting effect on this show. And it's like, okay, what are we going to do with this show? And then in general, it's a hockey podcast when
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You know, we've had some interesting moments over the last few years. And, you know, you talk about the evolution of our friendship and things that have happened. It's like there's also the evolution of like our hockey fandom in that time and how things have changed for us as fans of the NHL, how we consume games now and pay attention to the league. Like that has changed drastically since you and Endo joined me on the show. Yeah.
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And it kind of leads to the point where, you know, I had that that moment of, oh, yeah, God, like, how do I feel about the NHL? Right. And you and I talked about and I kind of had that realization that because so much of the shit throwing from Twitter and Reddit and that mentality and
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Yeah, how that has taken over the NHL with the the pride jersey thing and so much more talking about how hockey became less of a form of escapism for me because of that and how that's affected things. It's just interesting to look at how much things have changed and
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The future of this show and kind of talking about our friendship in regards to, you joked about something that we've joked about recently, which is the idea of like, what's the future of the hockey podcast? I don't know, but damn it, we might start our own separate podcast at this point. Yeah. I mean, we got the name. We do. Important part taken care of.
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I need to make the... I'm afraid to say it. I'm afraid to even mention it. Yeah, don't fucking say it. They're gonna steal it, little fuck. I know. I can't believe it's not taken so... I know! So, what we're saying is this. If the time were to come where we're just like, you know how we consume hockey? Our fandoms?
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If it's changed to the point where it's not really conducive to having a hockey podcast because we just don't have the type of, dare I say hot takes? I feel like that's the foundation, right? Of sports. Kinda is. Is hot takes. And, you know, I think we're at the point now where it's like for me, you know, we'll talk about some things today, certainly, but the NHL,
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I just don't have the energy in a lot of ways for like the regular season. Oh my God is the sky
Critique of Sports Journalism
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falling type of thing. You know, it's because you end up with conversations, right? Like one of the big things was what are the lightning going to do with Steven's damn coast? And then their GM came out in the past couple of days, I think even today and said, yeah, we're not trading it. And.
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In the past, I would have been like, oh my God, I can't believe they're not trading them. Or here's why they definitely shouldn't. And if you disagree, you should be kicked by a horse. Like, I just don't necessarily have the energy for every topic like that. Like, I feel like we used to. And it's just because it's like the NHL, the regular season playoffs. I don't know. Maybe the Bruins of last season losing in the first round killed off that that type of passion, unless it's a specific subject. I don't know.
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Yeah, I don't know I've I've had some I Don't know like I feel like For me, I don't I don't feel I I'll just say what's on my mind and if it's a hot take it's a hot take But yeah, I don't think I'm definitely not a guy who has a lot of hot takes at a cost because usually I'm just like I
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I don't know, it's speculation. That's another thing that brings me back to my beef with fucking sports journalism, it's so much speculation now too. Just like, oh my God, this might happen. It gets built
Media Speculation and Sensationalism
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up in this huge frenzy and then everyone's let down, no matter what happens.
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So about that, then, not to cut you off, but I have been streaming because we've been doing the sports gamer playoffs and a jelly sports. And that's really kind of taken over the time that we would have had to do more of the stuff on parsec on stream.
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And because of that I started up on NCAA football 14 on stream. I've had a blast with that now NCAA football is being talked about a lot from a video game perspective because they had the national title game on the 7th and Oh sources say they're gonna unveil the release date or something like that and then nothing happens and now today There's more reports of here's the release date this July and a lot of people just oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god
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But again, it's just that idea of, yeah, but what if it isn't? Then you're going to be like, ah, this is bullshit. You lie. You always just try to be first. And then the very next report that comes out, it's going to be, oh my god, can you believe it? It is that culture of, OK, I got to be first. And if I'm wrong, well, to hell with the consequences, because then I'll just be first again and say, well, the source has changed. And that translates to so many different things, whether it's a video game release or
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Like you said, kind of news stories within the NHL about what's going on. You know, there was the the thing with the sharks of Kevin Labanks on waivers. No, he isn't. It was never on waivers. Oh, my God. Yeah. Yeah. You know, you know, a form of media that did a great job representing this shift from
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News and journalism being one thing to to what it is now is actually Anchorman 2 Which kind of seems crazy that a comedy but they fucking illustrated it perfectly where it was like what if we just like Made our show for ratings 24-hour news for fucking ratings. It's like we can't do that. What do you mean? There's this whole montage of like all the various ridiculous things
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That like, you know, watching a car chase. So what are you talking about? We're not going to watch a car chase. That's not news. It's like, no, just let me let me talk about the car chase. And then, you know, a panel of four people in those four fucking corners just yelling at each other and like.
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And again, yeah, so in this in that sort of way, the same that TV news, you know, went from facts to ratings, the same way as sports journalism has come is just really turned to sensationalism, where I think it started out innocent and pure. I really do. I think there was a there's probably a golden age of sports journalism. And then unfortunately, you know, you have the
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And there still are a few who are really great and I'll always shout out Katie Strang and Rick Westhead. Yes. Who just go for the fucking truth. Does who cares what feathers feathers they may rustle? Who cares if someone's going to deny them access? Good journalism is about getting through those things and, you know.
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So yeah, it sucks, but it is, I guess, you know, that's what happens when you make money from ratings or you turn to clicks to make money and you need that. And so you just go for the easy way. I'm glad you mentioned those two in particular, right? Because they are the ones that you kind of look at to be like the top of the list of like genuine reporting. And
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It's so tough now because, like, Rick Westhead will still put out stories. He mentioned over the last two weeks, you know, Chicago's still involved in a lawsuit with the John Doe in regards to the what's now known as the Kyle Beach story. And there's still being scumbags, FYI, for all the people saying they've changed on Twitter, you fucking idiots.
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And the thing about that is that was a story for like three hours, and then the bullshit takes over again of just the stuff that doesn't necessarily matter, you know? And I just don't know if it's because people, again, prefer to not have to talk about the real topics because, hey, this is a form of escapism. I'd rather talk about the William Nylander contract for 40 minutes like we did on our last show.
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I'm not sure what it is, right? But it is that idea of like, hey, here's these real things going on, these real issues beyond the game, and so much of it doesn't necessarily get attention. And that, you know, again, that's the idea of
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how the world is and you use the NHL for escapism. Hey, here's all these real issues on the news. Yeah, but did you see this wild fucking car chase? We got helicopters following this fucking dude. And on stream at one point a couple years ago, it just kind of became a natural thing for me where someone was like, hey, there's this fucking car chase going on. And I'm like, cool, I'll watch it on stream. I'll, I'll commentate the damn thing. This is fun. And then eventually I'm just like,
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Some of these have ended with the person killing themselves or getting shot by police. And I'm like, I don't feel good about that. So I'm not going to do this anymore. Yeah. You know, the smarter thing might have been to just stay the Twitch streamer who's like, Chase, let's go. We're going live. Let's do this. We're following along. Let's see what happens. Place your bets. Does it end in an arrest? How does it end? Twitch prediction sucks having a conscience.
00:17:49
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It really does empathy. Like I sometimes I really wish I didn't have it. Obviously not too seriously because I think it's it's a beautiful, beautiful part of life and being a human. But yeah, it hurts a lot to say a couple of soy boy liberal cops talking about God. Wow.
00:18:16
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Now I don't know how to feel. It's a dissection of ourselves. End it with this with a great, brilliant quote from Trevor Noah when he said about CNN at the White House press dinner, I think in like 2022. You turned on the breaking news banner for the OJ chase and you never turned it off.
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massive thing. Everything has to be breaking and and sensational so that when those big stories come out from the request and stuff, it's like shocking. And but like you're like, OK, well, what's the next?
Beyond Hockey: Family History and Lineage
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Right. And nothing has that same weight.
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And also because there's so much shitty stuff and so much is, you know, on the news purposefully to be shitty. Hey, here's shitty stuff because it activates, you know, the certain parts of the brain that keeps people coming back, even though they don't like it. It's like, anyway, I'm getting way into the weeds on that. But yeah. Well, again, though, like that was kind of the point, right, is how much of that has transferred over to to hockey. Right. Like I do think.
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The Kyle Beach story was the big turning point in our fandoms and just how things have changed and it's taken a little bit. It wasn't an overnight. No, because the fallout from it's still happening. That's what people don't understand. Like, wow, this is already settled. No, it's not. I don't think you fully grasp just how big of an impact that has.
00:19:48
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Well with that, thank you very much for joining us for another edition of your favorite hockey podcast. Yeah. Oh man. It truly is a hockey fraud cast, I know.
00:19:59
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It is. It is living up to the title. Honestly, we should we should just change the title and just be like, yeah, your favorite hockey fraud and then just never talk about hockey again. We'll just talk about what's going on in our lives under the guise of like, don't worry, we'll talk about hockey. Oh, we're right out of time. We'll see you next week. George R.R. Martin's a podcast. Don't worry. The hockey is coming. The hockey is coming. It's going to be great.
00:20:29
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kid but honestly I think that's the future think it is oh my god all right well we do have a couple of hockey things we allegedly wanted to talk about I don't know you want to get to those you want to get to some viewer questions or is there anything else on your brain what's happening
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Let's look it's let's get to some viewer question. There's a lot of my brain, but let's get to some viewer questions All right. Well, we will kick things off here with a Common a common thread in terms of these questions one scruppy noobers. What is the name? This is a hell of a question. What is your favorite name of a deceased relative? my paternal great-great-grandmother was named dicey Williams and
00:21:18
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Just from the name, someone you wouldn't miss. So I don't have a good answer for this. He must have a long family history in the States, man. Dyson Williams. That's just that feels very.
00:21:36
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Dixieland to me, I don't know why, like southern, not east-south, but like east-south, you know what I mean? I was gonna say like- Virginia, Carolina's. Yeah, in my head though too, I'm thinking like, so a spoiler alert about Scroopy, I'm not gonna dox you, but I know you live out west and are a Ducks fan, because I sold a Ducks jersey on eBay,
00:22:02
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and mentioned on stream that I sold it. And Scoopy messaged me like, so my wife bought this jersey for me for my birthday. Is this your Cam Fowler jersey? And I'm like, yes, yes. Thank you for your purchase. What a kick ass wife, by the way. Right. Got it. It pained me the part with that jersey, but I had to downsize at the time. But
00:22:26
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It's just one of those things, I hear the name Dicey Williams, I think Old West. I think Red Dead Redemption. Dicey Williams is robbing a bank alongside John Marston, you know? That's what I envision. Come on, Dicey. My history like this, I struggle with it. I don't know. For whatever reason, our family history has been a little bit difficult to kind of track down.
00:22:56
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So there isn't somebody that immediately comes to mind for me like this because we have. You know, my mom's done her best through.
00:23:10
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like the MyHeritage websites and stuff like that. But yeah, for me, it's been very difficult to kind of track that down is the best way to put it. I don't have a great answer for this. I wish I did because that type of stuff really does intrigue me about that aspect of family history and everything.
00:23:34
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At the moment, it's been too difficult to track down. Yeah, mine's pretty tough. Like, my mom's side, her mother was adopted. So no clue. But that's everyone. Whenever I tell people that in the fucking Nordics, like, oh, yeah, her real parents must have been fucking Swedish or something. Like, you look way too much like that. Because I do looks-wise, I take on from my mom's side a hell of a lot more.
00:24:03
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And then, yeah, so like and then her then my mom's father was a child of Polish immigrants. So I'm sure down the line, there's some crazy fucking Polish names, but like and.
00:24:18
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Yeah, like his last name was like their fucking name was changed at Ellis Island. It wasn't Voigt. That's not a Polish name at all. But they were like, it's your fucking name now, bitch. Like we can't pronounce whatever the hell it was. My mom told me at like once and I could not remember for life of me. But yeah, I it's tough. And on my dad's side, it's like. They're all Norman fucking Scottish, British, Irish, like and
00:24:48
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you know, Norman, because there's some French in there thanks to the hundred years war, uh, saying that they're just basic ass names. Right. Williams and fucking Vincent's. Yeah, it's been, it's been a tough thing to like, um, my dad that did one of the 23 and me's or something like that. And you know, it's one of those where it's like, Oh, it confirms what we knew like Italian,
00:25:17
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You know, like the Bari region, like we knew that, but then there was also like a good amount of Irish and he's like, I don't know where the fuck that came from. Who the hell was Irish? And then we traced it back to, well, of course there was a name change because how many Irish immigrants came over and had to change their name. Otherwise, you know, the persecution you'd face just for having, you know, your name be McWilliams, God forbid.
00:25:39
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Which is why so many people are Williams now is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Honestly, I think the coolest part from my dad's side is like the family name that got passed down. That is my dad's middle
Athlete Lifestyle and Impact of Fame
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name, which is Ladd, L-A-D-D. I'm like, that's cool. And I'm sure there's a dope ass name that sounded sick, something lad like. But I, yeah, it's you don't. I don't know, man, like.
00:26:06
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My family didn't talk much. I'm gonna be real. Swedish. We'd be better now. Oh no, Swedes love to talk. Swedish would make sense. Yeah, the Finns. Yeah. No, I mean, I know my grandmother. Yeah, she loved to talk too, so. But she was brought up by Irish. And so she would swear to the moon back that she was fucking Irish, but she's adopted, so. So her maiden name was actually pretty sick. Evelyn Reardon. Like, that's pretty cool name.
00:26:35
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I want to know, right? I've been intrigued. I'm like, OK, what the hell was my even if it was like, OK, my great, great grandfather, like, oh, Jeremiah, you a ditch digger in Rhode Island? Like, I want to know, you know, it's one of those things I've thought about where it's just like, you know, not to get overly existential about it, but it's like, OK, it's not necessarily surprising the people who were alive in the 1800s. It's like, OK, at this point,
00:27:04
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you know, the names and the memories of it start to fade a bit, right? Whereas, you know, granted for us, we have a digital footprint to go off of. You know, our generation and older, a lot of our shit's documented online just to be there forever and ever for someone to eventually fucking find it. It'd be a hell of a lot easier for like great, great grandchildren to be like, oh, here was this fucking idiot talking about hockey.
00:27:31
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Online while i'm in the freaking 15th pagan wars or whatever the fuck's going on and now 2300 or whatever so Thank you for listening to this hockey If it's endo and I we just joke around about random shit and then you and I get into like the oh, yeah, no, it's just
00:27:59
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Yeah. Well, speaking of which, almost, if you had to pick one athlete, if you had to pick the life of one athlete ever, who would you choose? That comes from young burrito. If you had to pick the life of one athlete ever, who would you choose? I'll let you go first on this. I have two that are pretty fucked up. Okay.
00:28:33
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I'm not going to say it. I'll sit down. It's borderline at best. I'm going to go with Aaron Rodgers. I want to have all the talent in the world and be a fucking idiot. I just want to know what that feels like because I don't have much talent, but I'm pretty smart. It hurts, isn't it? It is.
00:28:59
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Then I would choose to be Pat McAfee, someone who has a lot of talent, but chooses to prioritize spotlighting someone trying out for Info Wars instead of, you know, continuing to be the guy that continues to shake up the status quo of those type of shows. You just fall into the pattern of everybody else. We're still be friends, man. That'll be great.
00:29:26
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Um, so for me, the real answer is I don't have an answer because I think the life of being an athlete would fucking suck. Like, for as much as like, okay, trolls on the internet can be like, oh, you just fucking know life, you just said on the internet. I have a pretty sweet goddamn life.
00:29:47
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is my answer. Like I have this teeny, teeny, teeny, tiny bit of notoriety on the internet. Like ever so, like it's the smallest blep imaginable. And I like it that way. There's this super small corner of the internet and of the world who is aware of me and what I am doing. And aside from that, I don't need any more.
00:30:14
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Like, okay, sure. Would more money be nice? Sure. Would knowing that when I die, there will be articles upon articles and videos talking about my career and my life, my legacy, whatever. That'd be kinda cool. Yeah. But to get there is the absurd amount of wear and tear that you put on your body.
00:30:40
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I put enough of that just by walking to the fridge. I don't need the wear and tear of a professional athlete to wear the hell that you put yourself through to get to that level that you deal with for the rest of your life. We've talked about that in terms of athletes being like, oh, it's difficult to play with my kids. Fuck that. Fuck that.
Finding Happiness Beyond Success
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To me, it's just-
00:31:06
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Yeah, sorry. I didn't mean to cut you off. I just got a great idea. Please continue before I say it. No, go ahead. It's fine. Yeah. I'm like, yeah, when you put it that way, I'm like, I want to be fucking Babe Ruth. Sit there, fucking eat, smoke cigars, drink, and hit dingers off a dude throwing 60 with that terrible fucking swing. You kidding me?
00:31:35
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fucking waddles around the bases. I heard the years and years and years and years and like when he went back to Boston and he was just so fucking fat and still trying to play center field. God bless him. I couldn't catch routine flies. Oh man. And then like I won like a really good game.
00:31:58
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A legacy continued by Manny Ramirez 80 years later, not being able to play the outfield. Yeah, it's kind of like not just dodging of the question as that is, and I will actually answer the question in a minute. It's just that idea of like, okay, the wear and tear that you put on your body.
00:32:16
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I hate the idea of not being able to go to like the fucking grocery store without like, yes, there's that trade off of, hey, I know you, I respect and love what you do. But then there's also it's like, man, I just want to go to the grocery store with my wife and just be present and not have to worry about making a ruining someone's day simply by, you know,
00:32:42
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having to interact or sign something, not that that would be a huge deal, but you get the point, right? It's just, for me, the idea of the physical wear and tear, the trade-offs that come with fame has never been appealing to me at all. It's just like the money to me wouldn't make it worth it. Like it's just, like I said, I love the fact that
00:33:10
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You know, right now I'm honestly getting to do really well thanks to the community that has taken to me and continues to support me. It's that idea of most of my days are wake up, do something podcast, sports gamer related. Then I get to hang out with my wife until she goes to bed for work the next day. And then I get to be a fool on the internet playing video games.
00:33:39
Speaker
and rinse and repeat. And it's sweet. Like, to me, it's like, you know, like, okay, we can pay our bills. It's cool. Like, we don't have a fucking mansion. I don't need a goddamn mansion. You know what that's like to clean? That was always my mom's attitude. So I grew up in a coastal town of less than 10,000 people. But it was more of, there was money, but it was more working class and money. The next town over,
00:34:09
Speaker
was the big money. And we'd always drive through and look at the big fucking houses. And my mom would always say, God, can you imagine what it would be like to have to clean one of those? It's like, Mom, I think they have enough money to hire a cleaning person. She's like, yeah, but still, imagine they were sick for the day and you had to do it yourself. How long would it take?
00:34:31
Speaker
And so it's like, okay, the idea of a big house has never repealed. The idea of, well, if I had a Lambo in my garage, my every day would be that much better. It's like, no, not, not really. Not really. Like, I don't need to worry about, did my garage get broken into today?
00:34:50
Speaker
There's just so much that comes along with that stuff that just does not appeal to me whatsoever. And it's a part of the intro. It's funny being an introvert. You've seen it for the most part. We both are. We turn up the personality a bit. There's an on mode. But a lot of my time is not in on mode. It's just kind of chilling and a little bit more quiet and reserved, depending on the
00:35:19
Speaker
you know, what we're doing at the time. So I mean, unless we're playing floor ball and I fake fight you, did you have another answer aside from Aaron Rodgers though? Or is that the one that you're going with? I mean, I'm kind of with you on the whole, like being an athlete is like pretty fucked. Like it's, it's, there's so much risk involved. The money's cool, but like I'm of the impression I've always kind of been like,
00:35:47
Speaker
You know, because especially when during, you know, hilariously, the height of the pandemic, when I was making probably more money than ever, yeah, legit more money than I never made in my life for a good six month period, six to 12 month period where I was raking in a lot per month. And I noticed that it changed fucking nothing.
00:36:10
Speaker
Like, I didn't feel indifferent, and I had to still work on all this shit. Like, wait a sec, isn't this supposed to help? Like, so, like, that's when I learned, like, if I have enough money, my basic needs are met, I can do things that I like, and I can, you know, do some traveling, or experience things. Then anything after that, it all becomes relative.
00:36:38
Speaker
And it's like, okay, well, what the fuck do you need? I found myself just giving away so much fucking money at times. I was dropping weird donations in years after certain days. Thank you. Donating to just fucking charities all the time. I was donating to bail funds during the Black Lives Matter stuff. Especially with what I was doing, it's like I'm not contributing anything to society.
00:37:04
Speaker
I'm literally watching numbers and lines go up and down. Empathy's a bitch. Yeah, like I probably could have saved a lot more. I dropped 20 grand flat on my private student loan. And then my financial manager's like, hey, you probably shouldn't have done that. I'm like, yeah, but I had like almost 10 percent, like it was like 10 percent interest on that bitch. Probably more. Fucking Sally may go fuck yourself. I think for me,
00:37:33
Speaker
If I were to be an athlete, it's like I wouldn't want to be like Tom Brady or Michael Jordan or anything like that. Like I know if you've seen the last dance, you absolutely do not want to be Michael Jordan. Right. Like I would want I would have the hockey players mentality of. I you know, just being able to have that anonymity. Right. Like how many
00:38:00
Speaker
But if you're, I'm trying to think of a good comparison here. If you're a member of the Lakers, good luck going to fucking Publix. Yeah. And not being noticed. It's the worst for a basketball player so fucking tall. You stand out everywhere. If you're Jordan Spence of the LA Kings.
NHL Player Longevity and Performance
00:38:21
Speaker
You got a pretty good life. You're playing for the LA Kings and no disrespect to Jordan Spence. I like Jordan Spence a lot, actually. I don't know the name. So there you go. But right. It's one of those things where it's like if you're Jordan Spence, like you get all the perks of being a professional athlete while still getting to avoid so many of the negatives.
00:38:42
Speaker
That that would be. So I'm assuming he's a bench player and they still making the millions in basketball. Like I'm pretty sure bench players like would make millions of players in basketball make like Connor McDavid money. That's like that's so nuts, man. Right. That's that's incredible. I would. Yeah. God, I would love to be a 13th or whatever the hell 12. I forget. It's been a while. Definitely a franchise. Yeah, I would definitely go for that approach as opposed to.
00:39:13
Speaker
You know, it'd be in like, yeah, just make me, just make me Tom Brady. You know, it's like, yeah, it's just too many negative trade-offs to me. Yeah. There you go. As we take another question, incredibly seriously. Hey, I'm sure that's what they're after.
00:39:31
Speaker
From AJ. That even made me think, just thinking you mentioned the name of basketball player. I couldn't even name fucking the starting five for the Lakers at this point. I don't think I could. Let's try, Sin. Let's try. Or at least, you know, like just name people who are start like play a lot on that team. Is Kuzma still there? I have to check their roster. Give me a second. I am loading into the Lakers website, rosters and coaches. And eyebrows? Is he still there?
00:40:00
Speaker
Anthony Davis is still there. LeBron is still there. Kyle Kuzma. Kyle Kuzma is not still there. Okay, so you got Anthony Davis. LeBron. One. Then I said LeBron, motherfucker. LeBron. Didn't they bring in that one dude, Chris Paul? They did at one point. He's not there anymore.
00:40:31
Speaker
And Rondo's not there anymore. I know that. Rondo retired like 2017. I don't see. Actually, no, I lied. I lied. Rondo actually played as recently as 2022. Yeah, but I see. I don't know. Yeah, I'd be intrigued like how much anonymity
00:40:57
Speaker
Does Colin Castleton have as a member of the Lakers? Probably so much. No, I wonder. Surely the fanatics would be like, hell yeah. From AJ. Who is each of y'alls? AJ, when did you start saying y'alls? You're from British Columbia. Stop it. Who is each of y'alls favorite? Why the hell is he still in the NHL player? Oh, it has to be a favorite. Okay.
00:41:28
Speaker
Like we like them or just like one person that we like to be like normal. I think it would just be the person where we're just like, huh, you're still there, huh? Yeah, that's... I'm trying to think of one that's like maybe a little bit out there because obviously there's a few that are fucking obvious. Philip Zadina. Hey. He's had great flashes.
00:41:53
Speaker
Um, so technically I can say Corey Perry. Like he's not on a team anymore. Gary Bettman has said he can play, but also he was never officially suspended and we still don't know what the fuck happened because reporting. And we will never know because a bunch of legal papers have been signed, probably NDAs and, you know, yeah. You know, perfect. You know, just worldly would, but you know,
00:42:23
Speaker
We're not asking for details. This is Gary's world. Who do I want to throw under the bus? Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Man, I don't know. I feel like it's a really tough question to answer because
00:42:45
Speaker
Like we've seen before how players can do kind of poorly and then like, oh shit, new team, new circumstances, whatever, they turn it around a bit. God. Even like Ilias. Why is this so tard? Even like Ilias Sam's sold off. I don't want to be like, how are you still there? But.
00:43:08
Speaker
Goldies are voodoo. I'm never gonna, I'm never gonna call a goalie out or hype around too much. Like that's not ever happening. Look what Martin Jones is doing. There's no, there's no guy. Dude, right?
00:43:20
Speaker
Do you know his updated stat line we talked about at the last show? I don't remember what it was. I think it was in the 930s and I'd said like, hi 920s maybe. It is down to a 924. Still stupid. The same, granted less games, half the games as the other guy, but the same save percentage as Connor Hellabuck. Martin Jones. Booked Martin Jones, allegedly.
00:43:47
Speaker
Craziness. Yeah. I don't I don't really have a pick because being the liberal cock snowflake white boy that I am, I'm just happy for people that are getting to be happy and live their dream. Even if they're the worst player at living their dream, they're still living their dream. Yeah. And there's so much like cycling in and out to of like, it's hard to be like, how is this person still in the NHL?
00:44:13
Speaker
Um, the obvious one, I guess would be Vlasic, but then you can answer that. Well, he's has a large contract and he's on a shit team. Like that's how, like, I don't know. Like I can always look at things logically.
00:44:26
Speaker
Um, uh, I'm looking at the league scoring list and he's played one game this season. Um, Jujar Cara. And that's only because I think everybody that has watched him play is concerned for his health, uh, because that's a guy who suffered numerous concussions. Um, so that might be my answer.
00:44:51
Speaker
is just, how are you still there? Because you would think that common sense with health would dictate, but maybe he's just gotten incredibly lucky and in which case, cool. He's still getting the play, which is sweet. I don't know. Oh, I know the answer. He's absolutely cooked. Alexander Ovechkin.
00:45:18
Speaker
who has lost his powers, his mythical scoring powers to his greatest rival in Sidney Crosby. The updated stat for Obi, by the way, it's in. I don't know if you've seen it. He is leading the caps in scoring with 27 points, eight goals in 39 games. That's fucking absurd.
00:45:46
Speaker
Sydney Crosby. He's not even, he's on pace for not 20 and that's crazy to think about. Yeah. We said all he had to do is average like 30 for a couple more years and he might not even hit 20. He's got, but he doesn't have to get going. That's the thing. We're going to keep saying that and maybe this is what the thing we all feared was that there was no gradual fall off and he just, ugh. I'm telling you Sydney Crosby has overtaken his powers.
00:46:16
Speaker
Because Sid, this season is now tied for sixth in goals with 26. Tied with David Posternok and Zach Hyman. Yeah, he is carrying my fantasy roster at times.
00:46:31
Speaker
Also, Zach Hyman has as many goals as David Foster. You know what I mean? Good for him. And also that just goes to show you how differently players blossom and hit their prime in the game of hockey. We've all been conditioned now to expect prime to now start twenty four because the game's been getting younger instead of like the old twenty six to thirty four. It is now like twenty four thirty two as like the magical prime. But for some people,
00:47:00
Speaker
Look at, you know, look at Hyman. I'd say he hit his prime at 28 and it might not be as long as others, but it's going to be a good fucking prime. I almost equate him to, uh, Kovalchuk and Clarkson. I feel like McDavid and company, the Kovalchuk.
00:47:18
Speaker
And then Hyman's the guy where it's like, man, you can make a hell of a career. Like, not that it's your only positive trait on the ice, but you can make a hell of a career being the cleanup guy. We saw Troy with the likes of Johan Franzin. The Moose. Crider is still doing it for New York. Joe Pavelski is still, even at his age, almost 40 years old, one of the best net front players in the league to this day. He's one of the best at all time.
00:47:47
Speaker
Yes, he is. Shout out to fucking Zach Hyman. It's crazy though, because a little bit off topic, but I'm looking at the top goal scorers right now in the league. There's some surprising names that are up there, over 20 goals already. By the way, there's 22 players, as of the time that we're recording this, the afternoon of January 16th, 22 players that have 20 goals on the season.
00:48:13
Speaker
Now, you have Auston Matthews at the top of 33. There's no surprise. Second place for the Florida Panthers, Sam Reinhardt with 32 goals. Upcoming free agent, by the way. Uh-huh. I'm happy for Sam Reinhardt, man. He dealt with some brutal Sabres teams. I'm sure he's going to Toronto. They'll find a way, right? They'll find a way.
Podcast Diversions and Cooking Skills
00:48:42
Speaker
You have Kucharov, Panarin, Besser. I mentioned Posternok, Hyman Crosby, Pettersson, in the top 10. Good for Besser. I'm hyped for Besser, man. What a turnaround, right? Oh, yeah. Goes to show you how much mental game hockey is. Mm-hmm. And that was the big thing, right? Fuck all you people who called him washed and shit like that. Like, come on, dude. He lost his father. Mm-hmm. Yeah. At number 11, Cardiver Hagee.
00:49:09
Speaker
Mikko Rantinen, Valeriy Nachushkin, who is back in the Player Assistance Program, and there's still weirdness about that, because what happened in that hotel room in Seattle, and now he's back in the Player Assistance Program, is that's a... We won't get proper reporting, so the fuck knows. But also in that top 20, Travis Kanekny, noted All-Star Frankie Vitrano, and...
00:49:38
Speaker
LA King's legend. He can go to a grocery store just fine and not be noticed too much. Trevor Moore, another former leaf. Can you believe it? Oh, the leafs. We have fun with them every show. But yeah, I don't know. Tough question from AJ. Well, we're 50 minutes into this show and have barely talked about hockey, which is just the way that we like it.
00:50:06
Speaker
and hopefully are avoiding any kind of technical issues here, which brings us to our next question from Bouncy. What's something that you like to make that makes you feel like a Michelin star chef? I don't have an answer to this, because I don't think that highly of myself. I mean, neither do I, but I feel like a Michelin star is pushing it. But I have a couple of different things that I can cook real fucking well.
00:50:35
Speaker
Unfortunately, I can't eat them anymore, but I can cook really good steaks. Sometimes I just keep it simple. You know, extra virgin olive oil in the pan.
00:50:44
Speaker
And I do pan fry them. I don't have to use a grill and shit. Pan frying is really fucking good for steaks. And then salt and pepper to season, that's a simple way. Or I'll do a dry rub on the steak. And you start with some seasoned salt, garlic powder. And what you do, you have to poke. At least what I do with a fork, poke a bunch of holes in the meat, both sides. And then you start seasoning it with the seasoning salt, garlic powder. Sometimes I'll even put a little sweetness in there, a little brown sugar.
00:51:14
Speaker
And yeah, I have some spice, some pepper. Sometimes, if you're feeling crazy, instead of the garlic powder, you can put garlic cloves in there. I was never a huge fan of that. It comes off a little too strong. So I'd do that and then grill it, or sometimes, usually with the dry rub, you gotta grill it. So I'd grill it, and then for side dishes, sometimes I'll make a nice salad with it. But the main thing that goes with it is this,
00:51:41
Speaker
asparagus I make that's again pretty fucking simple you get your baking sheet tin foil on it put the wash and snap the asparagus of course put it all on the on there drizzles the olive oil on it and then salt and pepper and you bake it at 350 for like 20 to 30 minutes depending on how crispy you want it and it fucking it's it's it's simple but it tastes so good
00:52:19
Speaker
There you go. Chef's in. Be another new segment on the show. God. Our final question again, I don't have a great answer to that. I don't. I'm a basic bitch. My wife is the cook and the baker of the family. It's like, hey, we're doing pasta tonight. I'm like, okay, I can make some sweet garlic bread.
00:52:37
Speaker
Just making notes.
00:52:47
Speaker
I can boil the water. Yeah, I sure can.
NHL Video Games and Team Success
00:52:50
Speaker
Just a little bit of salt in that bitch. Yeah, you got to salt the pasta while it boils. Put some olive oil in there too so the noodles don't stick. This guy knows. This guy knows. Apparently, I like olive oil. Apparently. It's legit the main oil I use and everything. Vegetable oil is not good for you. There you go.
00:53:13
Speaker
From BK, will we see some sort of online franchise mode in the EA NHL series again? I would like to think yes. Plans, of course, can always change, but they know how much it has been talked about and discussed and how desired it is, and you can rest assured
00:53:43
Speaker
We're pushing for it directly. I have made the devs very well aware of the potential that
00:53:55
Speaker
a connected franchise would have even if it's just the ability for friends to play games with me in franchise which is what we have done through the parsec stuff with the 2k 10 run and stuff like that obviously sin uploaded on his channel the
00:54:17
Speaker
And it's a legacy tournament that we did the international tournament kind of skipped a few days. It's not all up yet. I got to get back on that. I've been busy, but yes, yes, that that's a great series. It's just one of those things where we've talked about that so many times, just the potential that is there. And hopefully, hopefully, hopefully we see that change
00:54:44
Speaker
Sooner rather than later. Yeah, and you guys might get a little taste of what something like that could be as well. Just saying, just a little teaser. And a little hope for the future if it goes well, so you better, fuckers better watch it. There you go. Coming soon to a channel near you. Yeah, thank you everybody for the questions.
00:55:09
Speaker
With that, we do have a couple of things to talk about. Nothing too crazy will bounce between topics because honestly, I feel like a lot of the narratives over the last week have been, you know, narratives that we've talked about and seen play out as the seasons gone on. For example, the Winnipeg Jets are still red hot. They are still the best team in the NHL right now by points percentage.
00:55:36
Speaker
We had kind of talked about them a bit just in regards to how shocking it is, and as this run continues, like, yeah, it's still shocking. You know, you talk about the changes that that roster has had, the thought that, okay, they're going full deconstruction, Blake Wheeler's gone, Shifley's probably next, Hellabuck's probably gone, but no, they kept Shifley. They kept Hellabuck. They made those slight alterations, and now here they are with, uh,
00:56:05
Speaker
Arguably the best tandem in the league between Hello Buck and Laura Prossois. And guess what? Kyle Connor just came back from injury. He sure did. And I put him right back in my fantasy lineup. No way. Austin Bruin's legend, Kyle Connor. Oh, yeah. Good for Winnipeg. They've gone through it. They've gone through it. I will never not root for the success of the Winnipeg Jets. And I feel like if you're a hockey fan, you have to root for the success of the Winnipeg Jets.
00:56:35
Speaker
You simply have to. The idea of the smaller market succeeding, you need to root for it. It's the same thing to me, the idea of people being like, oh, coyotes. You got to root for that. Granted, they're not a smaller market, but these untraditional markets, the smaller markets, you need to root for the success of those teams because that's what's going to lead to growth for the league. Yeah. And growth for the league means if you root for a big team, you get a higher salary cap. Toronto, shut the fuck up.
00:57:05
Speaker
There you go. 100%. That's what it is. It's mostly Montreal and Toronto fans who for some reason hate the coyotes. It's so fucking weird. You have enough to worry about over there.
00:57:19
Speaker
But I agree with you. So, you know, you have the Jets doing jet things. You have the Oilers still doing Oilers things. They are looking very good. They're over. They're at a 6.03 points percentage right now after an abysmal start to their season. They have won 10 games in a row. Connor McDavid.
00:57:45
Speaker
has done more Connor McDavid things, surpassing what was it, 900 career points already. In 606 games, he has 907 points. I think we already talked about how quickly Gretzky hit it so we don't have to go through that absurdity again. He hit it in 100 games.
00:58:10
Speaker
Oh, Jesus. What is crazy, though, is that Connor is now fourth all time in scoring for the. That is fucking nuts. But it shows the separation in the eras for the Oilers. Yeah. Their top 10 in scoring Wayne Gretzky one thousand six hundred and sixty nine points.
00:58:39
Speaker
Yari Curry, 1,043. Messier, 1,034. And then you have Connor at 907, so he'll pass Messier by the end of next season. Yep. Which is fucking hilarious. Yeah, he had to play in the dead puck era. Yeah. Number five was Glenn Anderson from the 80s. Number eight's Paul Coffey. But then nine and 10 are guys from the 90s, early 2000s, Ryan Smith and Doug Waite.
00:59:09
Speaker
So it just kind of shows that, like, okay, you had the 80s, the in-between, and now the modern era, where you also, by the way, you have Drycidal and Nooj at six and seven. So literally anybody in between the Gretzky Messier era and now the current McDavid Drycidal era is ninth at best. Yeah. Those were some fucking rough years for the Oilers. And that featured
NFL Playoffs and Fan Reactions
00:59:35
Speaker
a team that made a Stanley Cup final. Mm hmm.
00:59:39
Speaker
It's crazy how that's worked out. By almost reverse sweeping the sharks. They won four straight after losing two. We are practicing. This comes back to the sharks. I'm just saying I remember that year so well because they have fucking rollers in a net. And we played Toskla.
00:59:59
Speaker
And I will never, I remember so many names from that roster because it was such a heartbreaking series and they were such a fucking crazy dickhole team. Jason Smith, Raffy Torres, Ryan Smith. I'll ask him. I'm pretty sure it was there still. I won't have you in the full team. That's fine.
01:00:24
Speaker
What's interesting, though, is I talked about the Sharks last night. This isn't quite hockey related, but I talked about the Sharks last night because the NFL playoffs were on. Which, by the way, I think a big part of like the the midseason lull for me in interest is that in the NHL, is that like the NFL playoffs were very, very entertaining.
01:00:44
Speaker
You know, like obviously, the Patriots are long gone at this stage, but it's kind of nice as a neutral to just be able to watch and root for stories. Yeah, I wish that you had a really easy way to put fraud in their name, but they don't. Well, so that's the thing. I'm going to be a Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Philadelphia. Doesn't doesn't work, man. It doesn't. But it sucks.
01:01:13
Speaker
So last night, the Eagles lost to the Bucks, which is crazy. You know, the Eagles run a massive slide midway to end of the season, and it continued in the playoffs. Last night, though, in the crowd in Tampa, they showed Eagles fans with paper bags over their heads. And my response on Twitter was like, they won a championship within the last decade. Been what, seven years since they beat the Patriots in the Super Bowl?
01:01:39
Speaker
You look so fucking stupid for doing the bag on your head thing when your teams won a title less than a decade ago. Yeah. Like, no other fan base is going to have sympathy for you, nor should you be seeking it. Like, you won. Like, you can be upset at the fact that, and it's true for the Eagles, they are a team that's like, oh shit, did our window just close? Like, apparently Jason Kelsey is going to retire, you know, future hall of fame center.
01:02:09
Speaker
That's a huge loss for the team or whatever else might happen like you can view it as like oh shit You know we missed out on the window, but the bag over the head That you don't do that at a playoff game like that No You do that when you haven't won a fucking game all season and guess what when the Raiders like won one game all season When there's I think they're still an oak. Yeah, they were still an Oakland time. They're fucking the black hole is still going wild You're fucking soft Philly
01:02:40
Speaker
I'm like, you had that that idea of like, oh, God, we're the perennial losers in a way, but also not really like you went from like Randall Cunningham to Donovan McNabb. You made a Super Bowl with Donovan McNabb and Terrell Owens. They puked in the huddle bringing that conspiracy back. I believe Terrell. Oh, my God. I believe T.O.
01:03:09
Speaker
i forgot all about that it's just one of those things for the eagles where it's like 2012 they finished fourth in their division 2020 they finished fourth in their division uh 2007 and five like they've had very few lean years like that's just crazy to me like the the bag on the head to be like i'm embarrassed to be here but i'm an eagle span like the bag on the head needs to be like
01:03:37
Speaker
beliefs before Auston Matthews. The bag on the head needs to be the Cleveland Browns. Now even though they made the playoffs and for the past 20 years. Like that was just crazy to me, right? It's like you're not like, you're not even a Sharks fan. The hockey equivalents, the Sharks, which is where that came from for me was just like the idea of, you know, again, the Eagles won.
01:04:06
Speaker
Like, you have great teams that don't. The Sharks are my go-to example for that, unfortunately, where you talk about, like, these great teams where they're towards the top of the list of, like, how the fuck did they never win? They got close. So, for the Eagles, for a team that actually did win, the idea of, like, I'm embarrassed to be an Eagles fan now. Yeah. If we were so dowdy, we would have been given a Stanley Cup, because we could have won it, but unfortunately, it was at Pittsburgh there, but if it was, you know, any other fucking team, we probably would have won.
01:04:38
Speaker
that's that was just crazy to me the idea of the whole bag on that but the NFL playoffs in general like I know you know you've kind of talked about NFL for you you know football following second it's kind of pay attention type of thing yeah um but as someone who grew up as a Packers fan that would be a damn good time for you to follow because
01:04:55
Speaker
God, the playoffs were so good this past weekend. You had the Packers as the seventh seed, the lowest seed in the NFL playoffs, going to Dallas and embarrassing the Cowboys in their home stadium. No, I watched parts of that and I went back and watched the highlights and that is amazing.
01:05:16
Speaker
Like the Packers have gone from Brett Favre of Aaron Rodgers to maybe Jordan Love in that conversation, which is nuts, although let's hope Jordan Love is not as big of a piece of shit as the former two. I'm still I mean, maybe I'm spoiled, but I'm still waiting. He's good. He saw he's good, but like I'm still waiting for it for like the greatness franchise QB to come out. And maybe I'm just that spoiled because I think he has been pretty solid. Right. Keep.
01:05:44
Speaker
I'm spoiled. Okay, okay, fine. But yeah, I want to see more of them. But yeah, I think I was, I got out of it for a while the second Aaron Rodgers started going crazy. And I'm like, fuck in hell. Like, and then I just, there's things like that just make me lose interest. Like this guy is a piece of shit. I really, really liked him for a long time. I was one of his biggest advocates. I was fully on the hype train of saying he was a better quarterback than Tom Brady, just didn't have the same pedigree.
01:06:13
Speaker
wrong no he was way more talented anyway um that was a good one though but yeah um yeah it just sounds completely off-putting when the dude just went off the fucking rails yeah one of those like hey we're gonna root for you and
01:06:35
Speaker
Oh, cool. That's what you're okay. Yeah, playoffs are selected. Detroit has made it to the second round. They hosted their first home playoff game in 30 years. They're going to be hosting the Bucks. So Detroit has a really good chance of making the sorry to jinx it, but they have a really good chance of making the NFC Championship game, which would be so fucking cool.
01:06:55
Speaker
Meanwhile, the Packers play the Niners, which is going to be a bloodbath one way or another. It always is. It always is. It was tough being a Packers fan growing up. They lost to the Niners once in a playoff game. And I came back to school the next day, elementary school in like full Packers gear because I was pride representing. I got bullied all day. I chased around by a mob of fucking Niners fans jeering me and like pushing me and shit.
01:07:23
Speaker
I'm sorry. The janitor pulled me aside. It's like, you got a lot of guts bringing that. He's like, I'm sorry to laugh at your trauma, but it is very funny. It's not like I brought it to myself. Like what the fuck was he doing? Like they lost. Like I shouldn't, but I want, I clearly wanted to start some shit.
01:07:40
Speaker
Yeah. Um, it's funny too, because with the bucks, uh, knocking out Philadelphia, they have Baker Mayfield at quarterback and it ties in to the Browns because obviously he was the quarterback of the Browns. The Browns let him go to bring in to Sean Watson. Very problematic figure. So the Browns end up facing to Sean Watson's former team in Houston.
01:08:06
Speaker
And Houston beats Cleveland down with rookie quarterback CJ Stroud. So the Browns not only lost to the team that they took the quarterback from, but then their other quarterback, their old quarterback went on to win in the same playoff round that Cleveland is now out of. Incredible.
01:08:26
Speaker
And talk about Cleveland, Jesus Christ, they went from like, hey, lovable underdogs to the script writers really did it. God, I saw I saw a fucking unhinged Eagles fan take about rigging games. This is just the way they wanted it. Sure, buddy. Sure. They want Philadelphia and the Cowboys, America's team out. Come on, man.
01:08:55
Speaker
Yeah, that's the way. You know, it's funny because, like, AFC-wise, it's going to be Kansas City and Buffalo now. And Houston plays Baltimore, so good luck there. Did Stephen A. Smith make a Cowboys video yet? God damn it. I'm sure he did. I forgot to look. I'm sure it's amazing. How about them Cowboys? I did see a video of Skip Bayless throwing stuff in the trash, though.
01:09:20
Speaker
Again? Again. Doesn't he do that every fucking year? It's Groundhog Day for Cowboys fans. Up, there goes Skip, throwing shit in the trash again. Fucking amazing. That guy is deceptively old, by the way. Yeah, yeah, he's been around for a real long time. He is 72 years old now, old Skip Bayless. But he was a writer in Dallas.
01:09:51
Speaker
forever, basically. You know, we're talking late seventies. He started late seventies, early eighties that he's been in that Dallas market, which is nuts. Anyway, I was going to say about Kansas City to the final thing about the NFL playoffs. It's just that idea of in terms of script writers, God forbid the Chiefs beat the Bills.
NHL All-Star Critique
01:10:14
Speaker
Bill's fans, they rigged it for the Chiefs, so that Taylor Swift could still be on TV all the time, the NFL's trash. Oh my God. Yeah. God, we have fun. We do, we have fun. But yeah, hey, follow football playoffs, because it's a lot more exciting than- Yeah, it couldn't be the fact that they have a fucking generational QB in tight end.
01:10:42
Speaker
Yeah, no, it couldn't be at all. It is a lot more fun than what's going on in the NHL right now. Like we've mentioned some of the other things and we'll still get to them. Like the biggest conversation about the NHL right now is in regards to All-Star Weekend.
01:10:55
Speaker
Which, once upon a time, I was considering going until I saw the prices of shit, which is insane, by the way. Yes, it'd be nice to see people, but I'd rather go in June when it's warm and everything's not expensive as fuck. Granted, it's Toronto, it's always expensive as fuck.
01:11:14
Speaker
We talked about the all-star rosters and just, what a joke they are. Like, I just don't necessarily have the energy at this stage. No, that's fine. If you don't have the energy, that's cool. Well, I do, though. You can bring up the all-star rosters. It's fine.
01:11:30
Speaker
So the biggest thing about this, right, is I get the idea for some people it's like, oh, well, I don't have my guy to root for, right? Like they have the setup where it's every team has at least a player on it. I think it's a dumb way to go about it because it's an all-star game. I would prefer it to be the best of the best.
01:11:55
Speaker
Which right now it currently isn't. Um, I had a whole video out on YouTube kind of talking about this. You have guys that are, you know, uh, there's an argument for like Frank Vitrano guys like that. Um, Boone Jenner making it for Columbus is fucking insane. No disrespect to Boone Jenner, but he has 18 points. Uh-huh.
01:12:22
Speaker
Like, he's not even the best player to throw out there for Columbus. If you're gonna, like, to me, that screams Columbus being like, well, we can't risk one of our guys getting hurt. They need the time off, so send Boone. Like, it's not an all-star game. And then they had the fan vote. And look, the fan vote is fine. What the fuck is just jerking there? Yeah, it's one of those lists. He's got a 901? What?
01:12:49
Speaker
It's one of those lists where the more you look at it, the more it's like, okay, that guy made it over that guy. And then there was the fan vote, which again, I'm not going to say it's a bad thing to get people involved on social media. They'd be like, hey, the all-star game's happening. Fan vote, fan vote. But it's obviously going to be.
01:13:12
Speaker
pretty one-sided, and it was three Leafs, four Canucks added to the All-Star game, which I don't even necessarily think is a bad thing, but then out of necessity for positions, you also got Alexander Gyorgyev for Colorado voted in, who's a sub 900 save percentage going to the All-Star game. When you have someone like Connor Ingram on the Coyotes who
01:13:37
Speaker
Dare I say, Vesna candidate this season? Look at his numbers. He's not going. You have a situation where Kale McCarr and Leon Drycidal had to be voted in instead of just going. Bro, Ottinger is a 901 too. What is happening? The defense I see of this.
01:14:01
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, the defense I see of this is like, oh, it's for the kids and everything too. I remember being a child.
01:14:11
Speaker
Again, it's not for everybody. I get there. Some people say, I want to see my best player from my team, whatever. But you're not even getting that, depending on what team you're rooting for. And it's the All-Star game. It's supposed to be this prestigious thing. We're the best of the best. Half-ass it, because they don't want to get hurt. But we're the best of the best. Play one another. This very well could be my old man young at cloud moment.
01:14:37
Speaker
But I grew up with my earliest memories of the All-Star Game being Olin Nolan pointing and scoring. It was the best of the best doing great things on the ice in a little bit more of a casual setting. The shooting competition, Ray Bork going 4-4-4, stuff like that.
01:14:56
Speaker
That's not what the all-star game is anymore. It's not like the term all-star like that. That's that's the issue of it. It's not an all-star game. It's NHL's entertainment weekend. Yeah. And that's what it is. So it I can fully acknowledge, hey, it's not for me anymore. I probably spend too much time complaining about it. So I can't really sit here and say I don't care. So I just call me though.
01:15:26
Speaker
I just don't understand the idea of it not being an all-star game anymore. What was wrong with the idea of it being the best of the best, being on the ice and being celebrated? Yeah, I don't know. It's interesting. And then you have the jerseys, which is a further attachment of the, guess this isn't for me anymore type of thing.
01:15:50
Speaker
Because, what was it? Justin Bieber's apparel company, Drew House, was a part of designing these jerseys. I'm cool with the idea of more colorful jerseys. If somebody likes these, that's cool. One of the defenses I saw from people was the idea of, oh, they're for the kids and kids will love them.
01:16:15
Speaker
Not the biggest sample size in the world, but I had, and Sin you might have seen this, I asked people to, hey, ask your kids what they think. Whether it was my side of the family, with nieces and nephews I have, my wife's side of the family, friends of both of us, and for people who had kids, what do your kids think?
01:16:39
Speaker
Um, yeah, I had a family member is like, I, I polled, uh, the students that basically I have a cousin who works at like a, an afterschool thing, a community center. Uh, I polled the kids at the center. It was unanimous. They didn't like them. Um, a friend of my wife and I is, uh, my five year old said, eh, they're okay. I guess I, for the most part, like.
01:17:04
Speaker
I get the idea, like I said, different strokes for people, right? Some people are gonna be like, these are sick.
01:17:10
Speaker
But I feel like a lot of people are just like, I'm gonna defend these. I think they're shit, they're so bad, they're good, I'm gonna defend these. I just think that they are objectively fucking hideous. They are. Especially to- They took the, like, for the, I don't even, the red one, I don't even know what division that's- Oh, we don't know, because they don't have division sin, they're doing the fantasy draft again with four different captains. Ah, okay, no one cares. But they took the worst Vegas uniform and basically turned it into an all-star jersey.
01:17:40
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. And then it's why is the modern, why is modern design is just like monotone, everything. Modern houses are fucking square. Modern furniture is like so bland. These jerseys are just one color and it's, I don't know. Why is it bring back cool shit?
01:18:08
Speaker
what is this what is this minimalist bullshit anyway it's 290 dollars for that jersey it's not minimalist don't make it look minimalist yeah that pricing by the way comes from the Florida Panthers team store where it was leaked
01:18:27
Speaker
not only the pricing, but what the back of the jerseys were going to look like. For those who do not watch the podcast and only listen, Adam Reed, R E I D underscore on Twitter has this picture up and I will put it up here for everybody that is watching. This is what these jerseys are going to look like on the back.
01:18:57
Speaker
It's not quite Comic Sans, but it's a very cartoonish back of the jersey. And then the name bar is underneath the numbers, which is okay, but in like a black text box and all lowercase. Again, it's one of those things where some people are gonna think these are sick and that's cool.
01:19:25
Speaker
I got no problem if you like these. I'm not trying to tell you that you're wrong. My take on them though is that these are fucking atrocious and maybe that's the point. Is that they're atrocious? I do think that different can be good. I'm not arguing against different and trying different things. I am arguing that they miss the mark in terms of being different and trying different things though.
PWHL Highlights and Branding
01:19:54
Speaker
I don't know. It's time to do away with the fan vote. Here's the thing. We caught lightning in a bottle once. It's not going to happen again. The NHL's not going to let it because they tried, but they're not, they're half-assing it. They're like, it's got to be an all-star game, but boom, generous error. I don't know. Fan votes are
01:20:20
Speaker
That shouldn't be who determines who an all-star is. Because you have a lot of clueless fucking fans out there. Or just homers. Yeah. The Brad's box is better than the car.
01:20:36
Speaker
The bright spot for the all-star game is that the PWHL is going to have a three-on-three kind of showcase game, essentially acting as their all-star game on February 1st. And it's great to see the PWHL being involved. Obviously, it's not the first time that the NHL has had women's hockey represented at the all-star game. Even a couple of years ago, pre-pandemic, it was Kendall Coyne's go field and the fastest skater. And she fucking dominated sick.
01:21:07
Speaker
Yeah, PWHL, I've still been paying attention. It's still been a lot of fun. There was the word though, I forget the official report, but there was the word that the rumored names that we talked about a month or so ago might in fact still be the names, which would be a little bit surprising.
01:21:27
Speaker
but maybe that is the direction. It's very clear, obviously, PWHL Minnesota is a placeholder for now. It's just a matter of where they go from there, essentially, in terms of what do they want to do with the branding.
01:21:44
Speaker
Options aren't a bad thing. Maybe I give them too much. I don't know. I still feel like they should take that as a marketing. What did I call it last time when it was basically there? It was essentially a focus group leaking something and then be like, okay, that reaction wasn't good. Let's go in a different direction. They should go in a different direction. They shouldn't be married to those names. Right. But we'll see. Indeed.
01:22:11
Speaker
Aside from that, um, you know, again, we could talk about teams that are struggling.
Team Challenges and Trades in NHL
01:22:17
Speaker
Columbus, Elvis Mursleykins has requested a trade. It's been a tire fire of a season for them the whole way through. Minnesota has been really rough to start 2024, the only real bright spot for them.
01:22:30
Speaker
is that Marc Andre Fleury has now moved into sole possession of second all time in wins in the NHL. The top four, by the way, all from Quebec, which is kind of nuts when you think about it, but
01:22:48
Speaker
We've talked about Marc Andre Fleury so many times on the show. He is a future hockey alfamer, obviously. His longevity at this point, you know, again, you're talking about a guy who was drafted first overall, what, 21 years ago? 2003? So that is some incredible longevity in the fact that he went into the league immediately and is still, you know, NHL caliber. He's not...
01:23:15
Speaker
the best goalie in the world right now. But hey, a lot of goalies aren't the best and they're still in the league and trying their best. Might have a better save percentage than an All-Star, who knows? Jesus Christ, hold on. Okay. Mark Andre Fleury. Oh my God, this is close actually. What is it? Hold on.
01:23:45
Speaker
It was 898, I think was the lowest one in the All-Stars. Alexander Gyorgyev has the save percentages Mark Andre Flurry at an 897. All-Star. Jesus Christ. Ah, boy.
01:24:09
Speaker
The other two things. I can't wait to talk about one of these things. Oh, God. Well, we're very late to this story. We'll get to this. This broke. We recorded the previous of Monday, so Monday the 8th. So it's been over a week since this happened. Broke after we recorded that show. The Cutter Go TA trade.
01:24:29
Speaker
to the Anaheim Ducks in exchange for Jamie Drysdale in a second round pick. Now, Gautier has still not 100% confirmed why he didn't want to play in Philly. We're pretty much not going to know he's made himself a villain there for life, but it's a good pickup for the Ducks. It's a
01:24:53
Speaker
you know, unfortunate trade for Philly to have to make. But the big question is how well have they landed on their feet? And we're not going to know for five to 10 years. Bottom line, there's a draft pick involved. There's two very young players involved, one of which has an injury history and Jamie Drysdale and one of which hasn't played an NHL game yet. It's going to be a long time until we know who's won or who has lost this trade. But
01:25:18
Speaker
This trade put, I think, more of an emphasis on what the Flyers are doing right from the culture standpoint. Where there was a lot of word of like, did Kevin Hayes corrupt the mind and John Tortorella putting that reporter on blast that did it. You know, for as much as it might have been like, oh, we didn't want to play for John Tortorella or whatever.
01:25:44
Speaker
It's working. What Philly's doing right now with Tortorella, Danny Breer, Keith Jones at the helm, Philly's getting their identity back a little bit. You know, instead of being the bag on the head type, Philly is the, ah fuck you, we're the best type. We'll throw fucking snowballs and batteries at Santa Claus.
01:26:02
Speaker
that's when they do well is when they have that fuck you wear Philadelphia if you don't like us fuck off attitude and that's a big part of the reason as to why I think they're in second place in the metro as of the time of recording here is because they
01:26:17
Speaker
have that attitude. They play that defense first, physical style of hockey. They're getting good goaltending from Carter Hart. It's been a good season for them. And then you have this instance where the former fifth overall pick is like, I don't really want to be here. And then the full court media press is, well, fuck you. You don't want to be here. Fuck you. Like, that's essentially what Danny Brier has said is the idea of, well, fuck you then. Keith Jones, ah, fuck you then. You don't want to be here. We want people who want to be here.
01:26:45
Speaker
And for that reason, you might kind of push the advantage in the trade to Philly just because it's it's working out from them for them from a PR standpoint as well. Yeah. Baby, I'm sorry, I was I was looking at I got kind of went into the weeds on Jamie Drysdale stats here a little bit, and he's only small sample size, played two games, got two assists. He's a plus one. He's playing 21 minutes.
01:27:17
Speaker
Mm hmm. Like, you know, we got to figure out what kind of go to is going to be, but like, yeah, I agree. Like Philly is Philly's always better when they have that mentality, when they have that edge to them. That's, you know, from back to the Broad Street bullies, you know, like it's it's just now ingrained in the core of what Philly sports teams are. Unless they lose in the playoffs in which case they're ashamed, apparently. Weird.
01:27:48
Speaker
I have a problem with this list, by
Debate on Young NHL Player Rankings
01:27:50
Speaker
the way. OK, so yeah, the final thing here talk about it is this list. Now, this was a an article from Corey Pradman of the athletic ranking the best players and prospects under 23 in the NHL, not necessarily in the NHL, but involved at the moment. Now it is buying a paywall, of course, the athletic pretty much recommend supporting it there.
01:28:18
Speaker
Unless they don't cover your team, in which case cancel your subscription like I did. There you go. He notes at the top of the list here that a player must be 22 years old or younger as of January 1st of this year to qualify. He also mentions that players are placed into tiers and kind of given grades based off of their abilities and stuff like that.
01:28:45
Speaker
So, in tier one, he only has one player. And that is the number one player on this list, Connor Bedard. To say that he is, by far and away, 22 or younger, like he is the guy. Second on the list are guys who are a little bit more established, though. Jack Hughes. Then you get Tim Stutzler and Adam Fantilli at four. The fuck?
01:29:17
Speaker
Has he seen Stutzler play this year? I mean, I can buy into the hype of Adam Fantilli. At least he's not above Stutzler. The rest of the top 10, by the way, is Leo Carlson, Matt Babyskov, Luke Hughes. Yes. Moritz Cider. Yes. And then tier four, Dylan Cousins and Wyatt Johnston.
01:29:48
Speaker
Where the fuck is Minchikov? So, again, I don't want to give away the full article, but there's quite a few names that you can think of that aren't included there. Beneers, McTavish, Boldy, Byfield, Jake Sanderson, Logan Cooley, Trevor Zegris, Kolkoff Field, even. To answer your question, Pavel Minchikov, 28th.
01:30:17
Speaker
That's insane to me. He's mini cider. Yeah. Brock Faber, by the way, wild fans, very hyped. He was 30th. Wyatt Johnston. I don't know. Maybe I don't know enough about Wyatt Johnston, but he... I'm gonna have to look that shit up now, so I don't eat my words right here, but now he's Canadian. Let's see. Is this another example?
01:30:46
Speaker
somebody just kind of throwing some things out there to, you know, get a bit more attention and controversy on it. How's Wyatt Johnston listed above Minchikov? I think you could say how is Wyatt Johnston up there above most people? No, he has 65 points in 124 career games played. He's just above 0.5 points per game. What?
01:31:15
Speaker
I, maybe I need to see his metrics for like defense and stuff, but. You'll always get controversy, I think with lists like this, but what I'm intrigued at for the top 10, and this was before I looked at the, uh, the rest of the list. What I'm intrigued at is this in reverse order, starting at 10, Wyatt Johnston or Dylan cousins. Who were you taking? Who's king of the Hill cousins?
01:31:44
Speaker
Dylan, cousins or more at cider? That's fucking tough. That is a tough one. I almost spit my gum out my mouth. Cause cousins is a center man, but cider is a defenseman. God damn it.
01:32:11
Speaker
I think you got to go with cousins. I think center men are slightly more important than the defense even though I feel like cider is like the prototype for the new defenseman and the NHL Dylan cousins or Luke Hughes cousins. Why is Luke Hughes above cider?
01:32:29
Speaker
So, again, it's an interesting list in that, you know, it's current players, but also prospects. Now, Luke Hughes has played in the NHL all season long and looked very good, but yeah, Moritz-Sider has been here, right? Yeah. He's more established in the NHL at this stage. So, I mean, I guess it's just saying, I guess the viewpoint would be based off of what we've seen from Moritz-Sider and what we've seen from Luke Hughes, that the ceiling for Luke Hughes is higher at
01:32:54
Speaker
Why is Wyatt Johnson in there? He's like a more established guy and he's averaging 0.5 fucking points per game. This doesn't make sense. Sorry, Corey. I'm sure you did a lot of work on this, but I completely disagree with a lot of these choices. Leo, fuck yeah, because dude, he's NHL ready center man out of the draft doing what he's doing.
01:33:23
Speaker
Dylan Cousins. I would even maybe have Jack Hughes above Bedard as well. That's what we're going to get to. Dylan Cousins or Matt Vejmichkov? Fuck. Yes. I mean, Michkov is tremendous in the KHL, at least since being able to go back to Sochi. SKA at the start of the season, it was like, oh, God, what the hell are they doing with this guy? Are they going to ruin him on purpose? Yeah. But he has been fantastic. But again,
01:33:51
Speaker
We have no idea when he'll be in the NHL, if he'll be in the NHL. Like, I would take Michikoff because my team's situation can wait for a Michikoff. I still would have liked him at fucking number four. Yeah. By the way, he does have Will Smith inside the top 20, 16th, actually. So that's weird to me like Will Smith. So there you go. Great list. I know. I mean,
01:34:21
Speaker
I want Will Smith to work out. I do. Yeah. But I would put, yeah, it's a weird list. Meach Cough for cousins. I said Meach Cough, didn't I? Yeah. Yeah. Meach Cough for Leo Carlson. Leo Carlson. Leo Carlson or Adam Fantilli. Leo Carlson. Leo Carlson or Tim Stutzler. Leo Carlson. Ooh.
01:34:50
Speaker
OK, I don't I don't know. More, more of a sentiment. I don't care. More of a sentiment. And Stutzler is taking a massive step back. Granted, the whole team has. But Stutzler also has the. You don't want I don't want that guy on my team because he's going to be the guy he's basically like a bunting nice where like the refs are completely biased against him because he had he's he was a diver.
01:35:18
Speaker
even maybe is a diver. And that's going to hurt your team a lot more. And I think Leo is just going to be better. And this isn't even salt. This isn't even salt because I could have had Stutzle either. I wanted Leo Carlson so fucking bad in that draft. Leo Carlson or Jack Hughes? Jack Hughes. I'm not that high on Carlson. He's got to show me more.
01:35:45
Speaker
Jack Hughes or Connor Bedard. This one sucks. We know what Jack Hughes is now at this point. He is one of the best players in the league. It's that ceiling for Bedard though, man. It's that ceiling for Bedard. Yeah, it's still trying to figure out where it is. At that point, I would have to go with Bedard.
01:36:10
Speaker
Just because I, but is he the guy that breaks the situational aspect of it? Right. Because, you know, you're talking about Leo Carlson and right now for the Sharks, Leo Carlson, I mean, would help out so much in terms of window, not the Jack Hughes wouldn't. Right. But that idea of like, OK, like the younger player in terms of how long can you wait for them to be better? I feel like Connor Bedard is the guy that you take even if
01:36:37
Speaker
your team's good. If they're shit, it doesn't matter. You take it no matter what. I took Carlson over Stutzler because I'm like Carlson's a better sentiment. He's and he's going to be a better sentiment. He has a lot more of those tools and at a younger fucking age too. Right. But with Bedard.
01:36:55
Speaker
He's just at another level above Carlson, obviously, and he's a goal scorer. And hopefully he learns how to play center. A lot more like learns how to win face off. It's tough when you're young. It's tough. But hold on. I want to do it because I feel like he hasn't actually been too bad, but I could be completely wrong. Bedard on face off last. I knew it wasn't overly pretty. No, no, no. Not Bedard. Yeah, even Carlson is actually having trouble. Actually, I didn't think it was that low. Fuck.
01:37:27
Speaker
There's a lot of younger centers where it's like, uh, you know, 40 or below. It's tough. It's fucking tough. Yeah. Wow. It's, it's 32% for Leo. It didn't start off that bad. I know that. Oh, hold on. But he saw also he's six three. I know. And I'm not a big gotta be height guy.
01:37:57
Speaker
But for the center position, a lot of where they're playing. For face-offs, it can be tricky because leverage matters a whole lot. Sometimes short sentiment are good, look at Crosby. But for a lot of the other things about center position, man, Leo, he's going to be sick. I will say I do recommend everybody check out the article here because I do think it's interesting, right?
Prospect Ranking Systems
01:38:22
Speaker
that kind of conversation surrounding prospects that'll always be out there. I think it's interesting that he put eight different tiers as well, ranking from tier eight, which is a middle of the lineup player to tier one, which was Bedard, which is generational, you know, potential. Yeah. I do think it's an interesting way that he went about this option. And of course, the best part about it is Cole Caulfield's tier six as a top of the lineup player. And that's about it.
01:38:55
Speaker
Yeah It's an interesting list that I recommend people check out but it's always fun to kind of actually curious where he thinks Eklund's gonna end up oh So for the shark, so I'll give this away For the sharks he has six players on the board Tier 4 NHL all-star Will Smith Tier 7
01:39:18
Speaker
Bubble top and middle of the lineup player, William Eklund and Shakir Mukamadoulin. This guy's a fucking idiot. Bubble player. Yup, bubble player. If that was a Khotyuk, yeah. Mukamadoulin though?
01:39:44
Speaker
Okay. Yeah. For Eklund, because he ranks each player on skill grades, he gives them high-end skating, average puck skills, above average hockey sense and above average compete level. Okay. Wow. Wow. Okay.
01:40:12
Speaker
Also didn't rank him on his shot, which he does rank most forwards on. So interesting. I'm intrigued by the process that he went through. I'd be really intrigued at talking to him about this, but that's insane. Bubble player, William Eklund. And bubble top six as in like, all right, he's got a shot. Oh, I thought he said bubble lineup player. No.
01:40:40
Speaker
Do you rescind your fucking idiot? Not completely. Okay. Not completely. Cause I think you can guarantee a top sixer. There's no fucking chance he isn't. It says bubble top and middle of the lineup player. So bubble top six, more likely middle six, I guess definition.
01:41:03
Speaker
I don't know, man, Eclin has superior fucking playmaking vision and really good skating. And I don't know where he thinks he has bad puck handling. Average puck handling, apparently. By the way, it's funny, the Bruins have one player on this list. In the last tier, tier eight, middle of the lineup player, Dr. Matt Pachara.
01:41:29
Speaker
Hey, when you've been good, as long as you have. The end times are coming, Bruins fans. They'll be right there with the Patriots. You have to watch Bill Belichick. How does he rate the defenseman? Mukumudulin, he has rated as what? Bubble top four. What does it mean for defenseman? Yeah, I imagine it would be bubble first pair, more likely second pair for Mukumudulin. Oh, fuck it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. OK, then that's fine for Mukumudulin.
01:41:56
Speaker
who, by the way, he has ranked as average across the board for all of those skill grades, which is interesting, too. That's very interesting. There you go. Check it out. There you go, Cory. There's your publicity for 100 people. Get mad, like I did. Or whoever listens to the show. Whoever made it to the show after an hour of non-hockey and an hour of hockey, you get everything. It all works out in the end. The hockey is coming. The hockey is coming. The Paul Revere of podcasting.
01:42:26
Speaker
In for the win. Same with that. We will wind things down for today. This was a fun one. Uh, do you have anything going on over the next week, aside from some lovely commentary with whole sports game or tomorrow afternoon? Yeah, I need to start. I'll probably start like a draft glory or something. I need to get another franchise mode going. And it's been very tough to do that, but, uh, I like money and I like my channel not dead. So yeah.
01:42:53
Speaker
Not having a dead channel is pretty fun. Yeah, I'll figure something out, man. I don't know. I really screwed myself pigeonholing, but I have some great ideas for other content. Some of it's like I'm working on actively. I'm not even just fucking around, but it's completely, a lot of it's not NHL. And so I'm just like, who knows? It's a tough world. Yup. Tough, tough world. With that, I mentioned the...
01:43:23
Speaker
NCAA deal that we got going on is it so then I have some NHL stuff in the works as well as long as I don't tank that
01:43:31
Speaker
See if I can just screw up another collab time will tell But yeah with that everybody we thank you very much for listening and or watching the show we will be back Probably next week. Maybe later this week. We shall see just kind of depends on what comes up Hockey wise to really discuss like we didn't mention at the start of the show. It's just it's a weird time for hockey It's a weird time for us in terms of our hockey fandoms Yeah, we'll see what happens in the near future. But for now
01:44:00
Speaker
We thank you once again, and we'll see you next time.