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We Sell Scooters Comrade - Tougie's Take Podcast (5/21/24)
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- The Fella's return to talk about the NHL and PWHL playoffs, the Nashville Predators intriguing trade and more!
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Transcript
Welcome and Introductions
00:00:00
Speaker
Welcome, everybody, to another edition of the Tukey's Tape podcast. We are back again. It is us, the guys, the fellas, your coughing, sneezing, achy friends. I got the mute button that time. I joined alongside Mr. Sin for the win, our sneezy boy himself, and our hungry boy, fresh off of another work shift, endurance. Hello.
Stanley Cup Playoffs Discussion
00:00:31
Speaker
Gentlemen, more hockey to talk about from the course of the past week. The Stanley Cup playoffs, we are down, well, to the final four, in which case none of our teams are there. Of course, I knew his team wouldn't be there. Endo and I, well, damn.
00:00:51
Speaker
Just beat the shit out of one another and leave the door open for Florida is
Viewer Questions and Life Hacks
00:00:54
Speaker
what we did. That's a fun time. A lot to talk about in regards to the playoffs, but you know, it's been a little bit since we've had time to be like, you know what, viewer question, let's see how it goes. And we're mixing a few throughout today's show because obviously a lot of them are relevant to the playoffs, but I want to get right down to business with this question from Bouncy.
00:01:18
Speaker
What's a weird piece of knowledge that you might or that you know that might come in handy one day? I ask as an ice rink or at an ice rink conference where I'm taking classes on the industry and realize way more goes into a rink than people think. What the hell was the question? What's a weird piece of knowledge that you know that might come in handy one day? Oh.
00:01:48
Speaker
So you know when you're at a gas pump, and the little fucking video screen won't shut the hell up? You can mute those. What? Yeah. On the right side, second button from the top, you press that, it mutes the video. Wow. There you go. Your lives are forever changed. You're welcome. That's pretty good.
00:02:12
Speaker
Yeah. Don't have to listen to Motorola commercials or whatever the fuck they put on this. I don't fucking know. I was just trying to think of cars and I went to Motorola phones. Allegedly. They still have a website. That's cool. You still make phones, huh? Yeah. They,
00:02:39
Speaker
They still make phones, apparently. They do. Yeah. Yeah. Look at that. The fair advertisement of the Moto G Power 5G. They have phones. They got a phone that flips and closes. Look at them.
00:03:01
Speaker
Technology, they're crushing it. Have I bided either of you enough time to come up with an answer? I don't know if I have a weird piece of information that might come in handy later. I honestly, I can't think of anything off the top of my head. That's a very obscure question that I have to really think about. Well, it doesn't help that your brain is like the SpongeBob meme of breathing and fine dining, except your brain is like,
00:03:31
Speaker
Warhammer. Yeah. Like my brain, all the stuff that I retain knowledge of doesn't really help in real life. Like, I mean, I yeah, like it's the math that I know all pertains to like, you know, either stock trading the little bit of it and
00:03:54
Speaker
Yeah, like an analytic side of figuring things out in video games, min-maxing in RPGs, those don't help in real life. My memory retention, my biggest memory retention is fucking movie quotes and song lyrics. So yeah, in the rare occurrence where someone had a gun to my head and say, okay, recite a song perfectly from start to finish. I probably do have something, like a weird piece of knowledge or skill that would come in handy.
00:04:24
Speaker
you have a very particular set of skills yeah they're just not conducive to answering a question like this no apparently not like i'm just like i don't know endo does anything come to mind
00:04:39
Speaker
The only thing that I can kind of think about is like survival training, uh, when I was in cadets for a bit. So like basically how to survive in the wild and how to build a, how to build like a survival tent or like just shelter to make or like a hoochie together. Yeah. I remember we made a hoochie hotel and it was like five to six to seven, like different, like,
00:05:02
Speaker
which is all combined together, kind of like a cul-de-sac kind of style when we were doing an excavation. And ECT was pretty cool. It was a lot of fun. God, I miss doing cadets.
Weekend Activities and Routines
00:05:17
Speaker
So there you go. We're all, well, not all. We're all useful in our own way and mostly useless aside from Endo.
00:05:30
Speaker
Well, to open up on the hockey side of things here, uh, gentlemen, that reminded me, sorry it, but, uh, I'm really good at, I'm really good at making homemade spears. When I would go camping, the first thing I would fucking do is find a stick and make it into a spear with a pocket knife.
00:05:48
Speaker
So Endo reminded me of survival situations, like, ah, that's the one way to come in handy. I could make a fucking spear and hunter fish with it. Food prices are so high in California, you decided to hunt for your own fucking squirrels. Go hunt for some deer. That's the whitest thing I've ever heard. Oh, yes, it is. Yeah, it's such a fucking problematic white boy thing.
00:06:16
Speaker
Oh my god. Sin, please inform us all what the differences are between swords and katanas. Oh, well, a difference between a sword and a katana. A sword is generally iron forged, and it doesn't have folded steel usually. Obviously, the shape is going to be vast different. It's going to be double-bladed and with a point at the tip. A katana, on the other hand, is folded steel.
00:06:44
Speaker
and it's only got one blade on it and it has a curve because it's a slashing weapon whereas swords on them on the whole unless you're talking about a claymore or a broadsword sometimes longswords too are mostly thrusting weapons whereas katanas broadswords claymores are hacking and swinging weapons so given your proficiency in crafting spears you'd prefer the the stabbing weapons that's your that's your comfort zone
00:07:12
Speaker
Like slashing weapons are by and large easier to use kind of swords are tough. They're the hardest weapon to use which is why most Levies and stuff like that were given access because that's a low skill weapon. But yeah, depending on what kind of slashing you're doing like Depends. I don't know. I'm I'm fucking embarrassed now
00:07:33
Speaker
Oh my God. Speaking of like, by the way, happy long weekend. Here we had Victoria Day. So there were fireworks going on the entire weekend. What'd you guys do this week? What'd you guys do in your weekends? Um, played hockey, watched hockey. Weekend. God, what day is it? Today's Tuesday.
00:07:59
Speaker
I mean, we played a bunch of parsec stuff, right? We did. We did. We have been playing the ever loving hell out of co-op games, whether it be golfing our asses off last night, especially. It's fantastic. I'm glad you all got that game. I'm glad it went on sale because that's been a blast. Oh, yeah. And the master of putt putt. That was insane. God, what did I do this fucking four pieces on the back nine?
00:08:28
Speaker
Well, Friday was the traditional pizza night. That was a good time. I don't remember. Pizza boy. I don't remember a goddamn thing about Saturday. Really? Yeah. No, man. I hate to say it.
00:08:50
Speaker
Like weekends for me, the only reason I can really keep track of when the weekend is is because I know my wife's going to be home. Yeah, that's it. Otherwise, like I have this night based schedule. I'm very much a creature of habit outside of like, oh, OK, today things change because I have to go grocery shopping or some shit. For the most part, a lot of my days are wake up.
00:09:16
Speaker
Walk the dog with my wife. Have dinner and watch television with my wife. Wife goes to bed. I play games with my internet wife.
00:09:33
Speaker
Which one of the two is that you decide? Let's go. It's got to be me. It's monkey. And then I stop streaming. I go do dishes and make food for my bed. And I do it all over again the next day. And you know what? It's fucking awesome. Yeah, I'm kind of a creature. I have it like that, too. Yeah, like I wake up.
00:10:02
Speaker
get myself a drink, and then I record a video, edit it, upload it, and then play games. Now I maybe play a game for a bit, but sometimes I'll go for a walk outside, sometimes go to the gym, and then now I'm streaming in the afternoon, and then I play with you guys, and then I go to sleep, and I wake up, and I do a lot of it all over again. Yeah. It's like the day is run together, but I enjoy the days, so I don't really care that they run together. Don't get me wrong. There'll be other things.
00:10:32
Speaker
You know, like, Oh, okay. Like, you know, this weekend I might take a day or two off and you know, but my wife's going to have like a four day weekend. So it's like, all right, cool. We might go do something. But for the most part, the typical weekend just runs together. I am absolutely struggling to be like, Oh God, what the hell was Saturday? What the hell was Sunday? I don't know. What did you do for your weekend?
00:10:58
Speaker
Well, I'm going to do it first weekend after I asked. I got to read this headline because I looked at it and it made me laugh. Kid Rock performed cowboy in the bed of a General Lee Cybertruck. I'm a cowboy, baby. First of all, do Cybertrucks have beds? What? Small headline doesn't seem real. Well, I'm glad we have an episode title of General Lee Cybertruck.
Cultural Hockey Experience
00:11:29
Speaker
So thanks for the contribution. Amazing. Um, as for my week, um, I had a, I had a weird moment this weekend where, um, I was asked to fill in for a rent or that's the film has run the goalie for a all Asian or slash Asian cultural, the hockey tournament. Like 90% of the team was like 90% of the people playing in the league were of Asian descent or had some sort of Asian with them, which is pretty cool.
00:11:57
Speaker
Apparently this league's been going on for like 30 years and it's like the largest North American hockey event for like Asian community. You had people from Ottawa coming in, Windsor, London, New York, Buffalo, all for this tournament. So I show up on day two, it was a Saturday, it was a three day event. Turns out the team that I was playing for lost on Friday, 11-4.
00:12:23
Speaker
Which is which is bad. But then you find out that their goalie, like when he was younger, he played like pro hockey in Europe and everything. But then you find out the guy's 60 right now and he's colorblind. And so they got to a point that like when they were playing the game, he didn't know which team had the puck. So several times when they he thought their team had the puck, they had the puck instead. Don't they wear light and dark jerseys for that?
00:12:53
Speaker
Yeah, I guess they had similar jerseys. We only had a red jersey for our team. I guess their team had another light, like a dark color as well. So kind of mess with the division. I don't know. I was told he was colorblind, that he like couldn't go down and make saves. They went down 11-4. I played two games guaranteed on Saturday. We had a goal differential of minus seven going into Saturday. After Saturday, we had a goal differential of plus four.
00:13:25
Speaker
So we had, we won the first game for one and the other game was like eight nothing. And then the guys tell me like, oh, we don't need you for tomorrow. Like ahead of time, like before the games happen, we went in both games or like, we need you to come back tomorrow. I don't care how much it costs and get over here. So we cut to the Sunday. We win the final game. We win the tournament. Amazing. Got to take a picture with the trophy and all that stuff. And it comes to the end of the tournament and they, they, they're giving away awards.
00:13:53
Speaker
And they say, Endo, you did a really, really great job. You kind of were like the control, you kind of like the controlling element of the game. You dictated the pace and everything as a goalie mind. So he says, I want you to have this. And he passes me a Microsoft Comfort Optical Mouse 3000 from 2006. What the fuck?
00:14:19
Speaker
from 2006 and says you, they're just giving away awards for players, right? Some guy got like a water model that was like, Oh, it like keeps her food high and that keeps, it keeps her water, like keeps her tea hot and keeps her drinks cold. So like, yeah.
00:14:35
Speaker
That's pretty cool. One guy, one of these guys that are water, like water bottle with a tea infuser. Here you go. Here's a new, here's a brand spanking new, a brand new inbox. My mouse from 2006. Why aren't you using it? Right? Cause I'm going to frame it. I'm going to, I'm going to have this up. Uh, when we move over, I'm going to get, uh, I'm going to get, yeah, I'm going to frame it. I'm not going to sell it. I'm like, I'm going to keep this, you know?
00:15:02
Speaker
I had like a 1.5 goals against average after four games and I had two shutouts. I'm not gonna give this away to anybody. They also gave me a tracksuit with the logo as well too. All blue, like a red logo, it was like A-H-A-H-L kind of like in a Mandarin looking font, which is pretty cool. And it was awesome. It was great. They treated me as if I was one of their own.
00:15:30
Speaker
they said, Hey, do you want to come back next year? I'm like, am I still going to make $300 after like four games or like, we'll think about it. So yeah, it was great. It was a lot of fun. That was my weekend. I mean, the tops, anything that I can't remember that I did. See, I would love to be a rent to something like doing something I love, but I don't have any cool skills, I guess that are in the sword.
00:16:01
Speaker
I just know stuff like that's the fucked up part. I've never I've I've never even like really wielded a sword besides that one fucking. There's been a couple times, but that one thing I showed you when I was in the studio recording for my band when I was like 19 years old and I was holding a sword. Because it's brutal. Oh, yeah. God. Well, I don't know. Generally, Cybertruck might have competition from rent a sword as.
00:16:31
Speaker
Oh, my God. Goodness, goodness. Well, and I'm glad I'm glad you had a good weekend. I'm envious of the mouse. That's hilarious. Like, it's amazing, dude. It's got a. It's got a multi direct. It's got a multi directional fucking tilt wheel. Look at this shit. Look at it. I can't. Look at that. Beautiful. Fair enough. It's always brother. There's a there's a genuine thought in my head that's probably wrong, but in my head, I'm like, could you?
00:17:01
Speaker
use that like with the drivers install properly. Yeah. And that's only because I'm going through issues with fucking Windows 11 right now because dude, it's certified for Windows Vista dude certified.
00:17:14
Speaker
You see, kids, Windows Vista was the fucking Windows operating system released in 2006. Exactly. This was great. Actually, it wasn't. This was terrible. Remember when Windows 8 came out and it was so bad they skipped 9 and went straight to fucking 10? No, because I didn't have a PC until Windows 10.
00:17:41
Speaker
Yeah, so that's when they added the whole like Metro thing where they got rid of the start menu and was just like a bunch of grids like you know the Xbox one like OG like background was much of squares and everything Yeah, the basic menu. Yeah, it was that but like that was your start menu and people fucking hated it, dude Technology is fun to go back and look at from
00:18:07
Speaker
17 18 years ago. Holy shit. Anyway moving on. Let's
PWHL Attendance and Strategy Challenges
00:18:12
Speaker
not talk about the passage of time. Yeah, let's talk about progress Deficit inevitable live your life
00:18:23
Speaker
I wanted to quickly mention just because there isn't necessarily too much to discuss about this. Before we get into talking about NHL stuff, I did want to mention the PWHL. Of course, the finals are ongoing. Boston up 1-0 on Minnesota in a best of five series. We were so close to a Boston Toronto final.
00:18:43
Speaker
And then Toronto absolutely choked away a two nothing lead and lost in five games to Minnesota. So that was that was a shame. But I got to be honest, like people have talked about like attendances and stuff like that. Oh, it was only a best of five. OK, so they they got reverse swept in a best of five. It probably would have been better for the league that if the final was like Montreal versus Toronto. Yeah.
00:19:11
Speaker
Yeah, but hey, I think from an optics perspective that probably would have made for a better final. Yeah, well, I do wonder how much it would have affected the US viewership. I don't even know if it's pot if US viewership is all that high because it's a Boston Minnesota final. Yeah, who knows? You guys want to hear a fun fact? Do you want to know how many people were at the last? How fast is this fact?
00:19:35
Speaker
It's really it's quick fact. Quick fact. OK. You want to know how many people were at the last Toronto Montreal PWA show game. Fifteen thousand thousand. Yeah. Which one? No. Sorry. It was four thousand. Oh, the energy center. Four thousand. What? Yeah. What happened? They were like selling shit out like crazy, like huge places. Where's Excel energy?
00:20:02
Speaker
Oh, so they had a Montreal, Toronto in XL energy. No, it was Minnesota and Toronto for the playoffs, a playoff game. And they, they were only able to sell just over a quarter of the seats. That sucks. But I mean, that's still pretty good. Like that's
00:20:24
Speaker
Like that's it's the one thing it kind of reminds me of like I go back to AWW and their thing is they have all these like massive shows like good production and everything but they have it in big arenas where they don't have the population for it. Whereas like you go to let's say the Toronto games they were sold out eight thousand like over capacity.
00:20:44
Speaker
It's crazy to think that, you know, it's a great product. They're doing well, but it's just you put them in a big arena. It's going to look bad after small. You put them on a smaller unit. It's going to look even better because you have that full atmosphere and everything's rocking and rolling.
00:20:58
Speaker
Yeah, that's the that's what they got to figure out. So it was great that they were able to play, you know, some marquee games inside of X allergy energy centers are home rink. But you got to be you might have to scale down a little bit just so that way you get the same. You get the the full experience of a full barn because. Oh, yeah.
00:21:16
Speaker
Yeah. 5,000 people yelling and screaming and the ability to see 18,000. It's not going to be the same as having like 2,500. Welcome to Shark Socky. Yeah.
00:21:30
Speaker
So there was actually a set of articles released today. The initial one was from the Toronto Star, which is paywalled, but written up by Mark Hawley. The Sports Business Journal, though, released their own article detailing some of but not all of the information. And the gist of it is the headline is low PWHL playoff attendance in the US to be examined during the offseason.
00:22:01
Speaker
You know, the Canadian markets, Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal did very, very well. The US in the regular season, but now especially in the playoffs, not so great. Um, to quote here, Collie notes, the league is quote, chalking it up to a short window to sell playoff tickets, limiting sales of group packages and relying on the already smaller group of season ticket holders in the regular season. Minnesota's attendance was one of the PWHL success stories. The team's average, the team average 7,100 fans second only to Ottawa.
00:22:31
Speaker
while Boston trailed significantly with an average of 3,700. No market, though, struggled more than New York, who averaged just 2,500 fans, which was 17% arena capacity. And then, obviously, smaller arenas and just pack them. I like that they had good ambition. And honestly, this is still not bad attendance for a league in its first year. It's just optics-wise, like Enda was saying. Yeah, it's better to fill up a smaller arena.
00:23:01
Speaker
The demand like create the demand and then eventually more people will flock to it Especially if people are start getting FOMO and actually do miss out because then they're like well fuck I better really pay attention and try to get this quick and yeah, I think that's a bit better of a strategy hire me marketing
00:23:20
Speaker
Like these numbers are equivalent to like an ECHL team, which is great to start, but then you have players getting paid like the averages of like AHL players at least, which is, you know, it's a good thing for them. I just, I hope that they took, they take a look at this and now that they have extra time to really figure out schedules where teams are going to play and it's not necessarily last minute anymore or what it made it seem like last minute with them announcing the league in like June, July, and then
00:23:47
Speaker
not knowing where teams are going to play until like a month before they disclose like, oh, we're going to play here. We're going to practice there. Like, I think this is good for them to, you know, get like their foot in the water a little bit, see how things are, what the reactions, how things are going to be. And I think now they really put their foot on the gas in terms of figuring out where they're going to go. My big thing is about not just not just expansion of the league, but figuring out what they're going to do for the minor system.
00:24:13
Speaker
because you had, you know, Natalie Spooner go down with an injury, which is really costly for, uh, for the Toronto team. You didn't really have anybody that call up. You just had maybe like spares or like who were on the roster or scratches, but you're going to be in a weird situation now where not only is it going to be competitive for more players to kind of keep their spots and keep their longevity in there. Initially that they had before with the PHF and the CWHL is that a lot of, um,
00:24:43
Speaker
players who necessarily couldn't play anymore not necessarily couldn't play but who weren't like strong players were still trying to fight on because they were close to getting that benefit level from getting paid and getting equal pay and you know getting the benefits covered it's going to be interesting to see how we're going to have an actual full-on draft class of players
00:25:02
Speaker
you know, declaring eligibility from like CIS, which is like, you know, Canadian college university hockey or youth sports, NCAA or wherever people declare they join in. It's going to be interesting to see what they do in terms of, you know, pushing out an old roster player, because let's say, for example, a player like isn't available, isn't going to, is going to make the roster, you know, their spots kicked out. Like what happens to them? They just go in the free agent pool that they end up signing like a PTO somewhere.
00:25:31
Speaker
Like there's no, there's no development system. It's either you play there or you, I guess, go play over in the, in the, the Swedish hockey league, the women's division over there. Cause they have a league over there or you go play in Russia and there's EHL. Like there's nothing to keep homegrown talent here. And they keep the prospect like pool going and pumping and they're playing games because
00:25:55
Speaker
like people have said like with the a lot of talent who coming over here like developing and you know learning how to play that was not learning how to play but you know getting stronger and being actually in an active league when it came to the women's world championship they were flying
00:26:11
Speaker
I caught a few games. They looked a lot better than what happened last year and a year before that. I guess because they're playing constant hockey. Whereas before, some of them were playing, but some of them were trying to figure out what they're doing with the leagues and having the one league unified together. So they're not really playing any constant hockey.
00:26:32
Speaker
So I just wonder how long a minor league will take to get started. Like that's the one thing that would kind of concern. Yeah. And yeah, that's that's just going to take a while.
00:26:42
Speaker
Like I can see them doing a system where there's like two to four teams and each team, let's say for example, like two teams or whatever. So whatever amount take like part of a team. So for example, like Toronto or they could do is like the Canadian division has one minor team and the American division has one minor team and they'll just play like games against each other for development. So that way they're still kind of keeping their feet wet.
00:27:09
Speaker
Or just better thing is to partner up with existing leagues, even if they're overseas. Yeah. It's still very much an evolving situation. I mean, to the point where even like the upcoming PWHL draft, you know, they're still trying to avoid the situation of having teams being able to stack and just, you know, like the top markets being like, oh, OK, yeah, we're just going to bring in all the best talent. Like Amanda Kessel over the weekend did declare for the 2024 PWHL draft. She is 32.
00:27:38
Speaker
You know? Yeah, that's kind of weird. They're going to have to get a couple of different drafts. Yeah, it's like she's one of the best players in the world and you want to limit the ability of a team like a Toronto that probably has more money. You know, you want to be able to limit their ability to just hoard all the best talent and just dominate consistently, you know, especially when you're talking about.
00:28:02
Speaker
I think the issue there is, um, I think that to try to separate that, they have like the weird clause where like you can declare three people with like a franchise tag on your team and they can get like, they get paid a guaranteed three year contracts at a hundred thousand dollars, which is cool. That's pretty sick. Like I've never heard of a major league doing that except for like what?
00:28:24
Speaker
Basketball or like the NFL but their contract stuff is a little bit different So I'm surprised that she would have to declare for the draft and there wouldn't be a free agency period
00:28:35
Speaker
Like, I don't know. That's just, you know, they're just, they're just setting stuff up so that way it's not as like stack heavy. Or if you want to pick up a player who's had experience, they have to be drafted instead of free agency, but they also have free agency experience. So it's like, why, what's, what's the clause that says you can do one or the other? Fair enough. I was going to say too, in regards like the attendance issues, like,
00:29:01
Speaker
You know, in the arena locations, they'd still have a lot to figure out, right? It was their first league, you know, the first season for this league. And I mean, again, for Boston, like you're playing 30 miles north of downtown Boston, New York and their low attendance. I mean, they played in three different goddamn cities this year. There's a lot to figure out just in terms of team logistics, where they're playing, how the players are going to end the league, developing the players.
00:29:24
Speaker
It's an ever evolving situation. But hey, make sure to check out the PWHL finals. Game number two is tonight. Game three Friday and then if necessary, game four on Sunday and game five would be next Wednesday. In regards to the NHL, before we talk about the Stanley Cup playoffs, I want to talk about the ever so rare mid
00:29:53
Speaker
playoffs
NHL Trade Moves and Team Strategies
00:29:54
Speaker
trade Because this was out of nowhere today The Tampa Bay Lightning have reacquired defenseman Ryan McDonough along with a 2024 fourth-round pick and Nashville in return gets a 2025 second-round pick. This is legal and a 2024 seventh. Yeah, this happened Yeah, you can make you can make trades which seems eliminated. It just means they can't play and
00:30:23
Speaker
Like, yeah, technically, yeah, you can make a trade on April 1st if you wanted to. They're just not eligible for the playoffs. Oh, it's a stupid move. But like, for example, at the least you're like, oh, fuck it, whatever. We want to trade fucking Marner during the during a playoff run and before they get to the playoffs. So they can do that. It's the you won't be able to play for the playoffs, but you can be traded.
00:30:47
Speaker
Now, Alex Daugherty, who is a... Do we know? Sorry to cut you off, but when the fuck was the last time we had a playoff trade happen? Like, I cannot remember for the life of me any time this has ever happened. Like, a trade taking place in playoffs, like... Let me see. So, I would have to check on a month-by-month basis. Yeah, screw that then. Don't worry about that. I was just... I'm just...
00:31:09
Speaker
That's crazy. I didn't. It happens so goddamn rarely. I just my mind just went from all the franchise mode I play probably. Hey, you can't trade right now. Right. Yeah. I'm intrigued by the answer.
00:31:25
Speaker
um but yeah i'd have to do a little bit of research because i don't see any articles that's fine i can look it up while you make your next point i was gonna say because cap friendly does have a date range but you'd have to do it like april 15th 2023 to like june
00:31:42
Speaker
every single year um well actually hold on 2024 season no trades found 2023 i hold on i might be able to find this but then the problem is when you look at the end of a season um there are also trades that show up
00:31:59
Speaker
You'd have to check the end date for when a season ends. Although, actually it looks like last year, May 31st, when did last year's season end? Because there were a couple of trades on May 30, or one trade on May 31st, a minor trade involving New York and Edmonton, so. But in terms of the last notable trade, I have no idea. Alex Doherty, who is a Preds reporter for the Tennessean, tweeted this out today, from what I understand, this is mostly a cap move for the Preds, but also McDonough's been wanting to return home.
00:32:26
Speaker
Of course, he considers Tampa home. With that contract, the only way he would move his no trade clause is by going back to Tampa, smart move by trots, and mentions the cap space that the Preds now have. And that's what I want to talk about is the situation here for the two teams. Ryan McDonough's cap hit is 6.75 million for the next two years.
00:32:53
Speaker
We'll talk about the Tampa aspect of it in a second. Ryan McDonough, obviously an integral part of their back to back cup winning teams. I mean, Christ, it went to three finals in a row. He had a shockingly good year from an analytics standpoint.
00:33:13
Speaker
this year. You know whether or not you want to look at something like the JFresh cards or whatever I mean his defense essentially went from oh he's cooked to oh shit he's good like it's literally a V over the last three seasons like he looked better he's 35 years old
00:33:30
Speaker
But again, 6.75 million. That leaves the Tampa Bay Lightning, and screw it, we'll talk about it now. That leaves the Tampa Bay Lightning with just over $5 million in available cap space.
00:33:46
Speaker
In terms of business, they have to do this off season. Logan Brown's an RFA. That is what it is. UFA is on defense. Calvin DeHaan, Matt Dunba, Hayden Fleury, probably all gone. Maybe they bring Hayden Fleury back for cheap. But that leaves their defense as Sergey Cheb, Hedman, McDonough, Chernak, and probably Perbix and Darren Radish, although you also have Lilleberg mixed in, who played a little bit. Max Brozier played a bit. So their defense is pretty well set.
00:34:15
Speaker
But then it's the forward core. You have $5 million to spend with UFAs, Austin Watson, Tyler Mott, Anthony DuClair, and Steven Stampkos. Yeah, Duke was a rental. Yeah. The only- The other guys in those bottom six, huh?
00:34:32
Speaker
The only way that Stamco stays is if he takes that Patrice Bergeron-esque team-friendly deal, which a reminder, do you guys recall what Bergeron's cap hit was last season? Two and a half million. You, sir, are correct, which is hilarious. Hey, honestly, they've become the team that I watch in the playoffs now that
00:35:03
Speaker
And sharks are absolute dog shit for now, as they rebuilding. But yeah, because like you're my friend and I'm like, I'll support my buddy's team. And yeah, I've I probably know more than those. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, here's the thing. I want the leaf to succeed, but also it's really fucking funny that they don't.
00:35:24
Speaker
Mm hmm. Because it's a meme at this point. And I am I'm an agent of chaos and the craziest stuff that can happen. And because Toronto's fan base is so huge, so fanatical, them freaking out every fucking year is honestly endless entertainment. And who doesn't love the LFRs? Come on. Come on. Yeah, I know way more about Bruins hockey than I ever thought I would in my entire life.
00:35:49
Speaker
The biggest Bruins thing that I would ever pay attention to was obviously Joe Thornton, because from a young age, in NHL 2K3, the first thing I'd do when I did a Sharks franchise mode is I would always trade for Joe Thornton. Like, I was just like, he's sick, he's young, he's, you know, got all that potential and, well... Also, it's your fault. Yeah, yeah. I willed that shit into existence, buddy. Although I had to pay a bit more than Wayne Primo,
00:36:17
Speaker
Wayne Primo, Brad Stewart, Marco Sturm. I think I kept Sturm in those trades, so I don't know what the fuck I traded. Probably ticks or something, but yeah. Oh, God. Yeah, that was a trade. For the Lightning, I don't want to talk about Joe Thornton anymore because it just makes us both sad for different reasons.
00:36:45
Speaker
For the Lightning, $5 million to keep Stamkos as possible, but it just makes you wonder, like, okay, you still got Andrei Vasilevsky, one of the best goalies in the world. The defense on paper isn't that bad either. I just wonder if they're kind of trying to stretch too thin in terms of the depth. And I think that's where they're going to be right now. That's been their issue the past couple of seasons, in my opinion, too. You've started to pay these guys who were a part of the Cup winning teams, Sergey Chev. You guys know what Sergey Chev's contract is?
00:37:15
Speaker
Oh, six and a half, right? Yep. Eight point five until 31. I mean, he's great and everything, but that is a lot is I don't consider him like. I mean, I guess he's a top pair. Yeah, cap. So cap friendly right now, it's tough to go off. I don't know if daily face off would have had the last lines that they rolled with. He also, of course, had the the fucking injury.
00:37:44
Speaker
yeah broken leg in february that he did come back from uh daily face off on april 29th had him listed on the second pair return act top pair was headman and dumber yeah so he is he's not a number one guy in my opinion though so like
00:38:02
Speaker
8.5 is a lot for him. He's great. I don't know. I don't watch enough lightning and I'm sure lightning fans would, well, everyone says, you know, their team's the best and all your prospects are going to make it. But yeah, I don't know. I feel like six and a half would be a sweetheart. I'd say seven and a half for him is probably more fair, but eight and a half is quite a bit. I guess they're hoping he grows into it more, but he's already 26, right? 25.
00:38:28
Speaker
okay okay i think he turns 26 this year yeah his birthday's next month like he could i mean he's gonna be their number one eventually headman's not gonna be around forever so that's why i guess what that's what they're kind of banking on and hoping for that he develops a bit more into that and it could absolutely work but yeah right now for the time being that hurts a little bit yeah it's like they paid him they paid churn act they paid surrelli
00:38:51
Speaker
You know, obviously they had to let go of some guys, but they also tried to keep some guys and it's like, well, this is when it adds up. They got Nick Paul for like six years. That was a crazy contract that he signed for like three mil, six years, something like that. 3.15 until 2029 for Nick Paul. Yeah. I mean, he's great. 3C, but... Just makes you wonder about their depth though. Because right now, obviously, again, it's off-season base, like Stamkos isn't being factored in. But you're talking about...
00:39:19
Speaker
You know, pieces like Connor Sherry, Michael Aceamont, Mitch Chafee, Chafee, Chafee, uh, Gage Consolvus, Valtteri Merella, um... Unowns. Completely. You know? Besides Aceamont, Aceamont shark's legend.
00:39:37
Speaker
That's the big question for Tampa. I mean, that's, that's a big cap hit for Ryan McDonough. Like he does bring more than just a solid on ice effort. You know, I mean, although how much leadership does Tampa need for bucks sake. Um,
00:39:52
Speaker
I'm just intrigued to see how this works out for them because they're in that really interesting timeframe where it's like, okay, you know, stamp goes, you have to re-sign. Hedman's only signed through the end of next year at 7.9, essentially. And what the hell is Victor Hedman going to want to do? Like, is he just, is he going to be content with being like,
00:40:15
Speaker
I'll sign in Utah for eight million bucks for two years. Like, is he going to want to make a little bit more money at the stage of his career as much as he can make given he's already had the success? Like, you don't really know what's going to influence these players in terms of how they're going to move forward. So Tampa, super interesting to watch. Nashville, even more so. Although I need to mention this in regards to Tampa's draft picks,
00:40:43
Speaker
They do not have a draft pick this year until the fourth round. Yep. And it's Edmonton's. They also are already without their first and second next year. Yeah. That is because Nashville has their first and second next year. Nashville also has their second rounder this year. Wait. Oh, yeah, that was for fucking Genoa, right?
00:41:11
Speaker
so the trades are as follows the second round pick this year has been moved around a ton it was previously moved god holy hell that pick has been moved a ton god I don't even know where the hell that picks come
00:41:31
Speaker
Okay, there we go. There we go. So yeah, the second round picked this year it brought me down to another trade just below it Chicago LA Philly monstrosity so the second round pick this year and The conditional first next year which is top ten protected comes from the Tanner Genot trade which is Tanner Genot a Tampa for Cal foot and
00:41:57
Speaker
a 2023 third rounder that became a defensive prospect to Dylan McKinnon, a 2023 fourth round pick that ended up back on Tampa somehow, because it's some dude named Jason Chagabe, a fifth round pick, a second round pick, and the first round pick.
00:42:20
Speaker
which is absurd. That was so much for Janelle. And then there was another trade today, of course, a second round pick next year going for Ryan McDonough. So the Preds certainly have a nice little interest in what's going on in Tampa. Yeah. But what's going on for Nashville is interesting enough as it is because they, of course, made the playoffs this year. They have six picks in the first three rounds this year and next year.
00:42:50
Speaker
And, this offseason, UFAs, Kevin Lankinen and Gull, defenseman Tyson Berry and Alex Carie, forwards Anthony Bovilie, Kiefer Sherwood, Jason Zucker, and RFA forward Jared Anderson-Dolan. They have 26 million dollars in cap space, and Leafs fans are going fucking nuts thinking that this is the move to free up space for Mitch Marner.
00:43:21
Speaker
And they might be right. Nashville's in a weird spot. They have $26 million in open space with over $11 million, nearly 12 million in dead cap. They have that much cap space with 12 million bucks in dead cap. Who's the dead cap from? Oh, boy. So they have a quarter of a million dollar retention on Matias Ekholm until 2026, the next two seasons.
00:43:50
Speaker
Next year, $4 million in retained salary on Ryan Johansson, who they traded to Colorado, who is now a member of the Flyers. Oh, yeah. Right. They have a $2 million cap hit for the next four years for the Kyle Taurus buyout. Next season, $5.55 million of a buyout hit on Matt Duchain.
00:44:18
Speaker
The year after it is 6.55 and then 1.55 for three years after that until 2029. And Duchain is pretty good in Dallas. Yeah, I mean the whole thing behind getting rid of him was like, oh, we don't really like the locker room leadership culture with Duchain and Johansson. That's why they brought in Ryan O'Reilly. And yeah, now Matt Duchain's going to the Western Conference Finals with Dallas.
00:44:45
Speaker
But hey both can be right like Matt is a good player and he could have also been a terrible no wonder they got rid of their GM
00:44:52
Speaker
Yes, so that's the key, right, is that Barry Trots has been the GM of this team now for the past 10 months. He took over July 1st of last year, and he has this team in a really good situation if he can make the right moves at the right time. And when talking about this Preds team, man, could they use a Mitch Marner?
00:45:17
Speaker
They really, really could. Imagine him with fucking Forsberg. I mean, so right now, in terms of Nashville's Lions, uncap friendly, which obviously they're out. Top line, Philip Forsberg, Ryan O'Reilly, Gustav Nyquist. You sub out Nyquist for Mitch Marner, that's a hell of a line. Yeah, Nyquist's second liner, absolutely.
00:45:43
Speaker
Forsberg to put up the goals, Marner to score, O'Reilly to be that defensive effort. Not that Mitch Marner is bad at defense either when he's healthy or giving full effort. They need another big impact player in Nashville and they have the draft capital to trade. They have the salary cap space to make the move. In regards to prospects, who knows?
00:46:11
Speaker
I know there are going to be a lot of Leafs fans, and they're like, oh, you see, Saros has only signed for one more year at 5 million. I don't know if that'll happen, but who knows? We might get, I mean, I can tell you.
00:46:23
Speaker
Exactly. They have a former first round pick of a goalie in the system in his early twenties. I would be licking my chops if I was Toronto. They've nailed. I will say this. Nashville has nailed the goalie draft aspect. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh my God. Going from Renee to satos now to fucking ask it off. Like that's, that's amazing. Even before then, um, because you have,
00:46:51
Speaker
Some outlets out there, hockey reference has the list of goaltenders in the Preds history. You guys forgot somebody in that mix. Their first long-term goalie. Stan Ellis. No. Oh, I should know this because the Sharks played against him in the playoffs. He was a bit of a journeyman. He played for five teams over his career.
00:47:19
Speaker
Oh my god, I'm gonna be so pissed when you say the name and I don't know it. Four teams, actually. He had two tours of duty with the Florida Panthers. He also played for Washington and Pittsburgh. That would do big. No.
00:47:31
Speaker
Dubinik was in Minnesota, man. Volkoon? Thomas Volkoon was their first goaltender. Right. I said that a bit ago. I said Volkoon. Maybe. I don't know. Maybe I didn't hear it. But anyway, from 1999 to 2007, eight years, almost 400 career games. They also got almost 150 games out of Chris Mason.
00:47:53
Speaker
Yeah, 200 games that I'm like Dunham and then you're talking about almost 700 games of Pekka Rene now 350 regular season games out of Yousi Saros. They have always had some abilities in goal. I mean, it makes a lot of sense. And honestly, I mean, Mitch Marner in Nashville, Yousi Saros to Toronto, other pieces involved. But yeah, get March Marner to a place where you can't get fucking pissed at media, man.
00:48:22
Speaker
He can't handle it anymore. He can't handle it anymore. Like he's allegedly sending security people to harass. Allegedly indeed. But yeah, the scar off is, you know, he was taken 11th overall in 2020. He will be 22 at the start of the next season. He's got a birthday in a month.
00:48:45
Speaker
You know, you pair him with a veteran goalie to take the pressure off, but maximize Yusei Saros in his value now. Yeah. I mean, look, you'd love to keep Yusei Saros. I mean, the guy's 29 years old as of the time of recording. But man, if you can cash out on him, get a big piece like a Mitch Marner, and then, you know, you have your guy in waiting, like, you're gonna have to make a decision with Yusei Saros eventually. Like, if you choose to keep him,
00:49:12
Speaker
Is he gonna wanna sign? He's gonna be a UFA at the end of next year. Is Yousi Saros gonna wanna sign for like three years, knowing that you have his replacement in the system already? You know? That's a risk and we don't know, right? Like that's one of the things where it's like, yeah, maybe he'd be okay with that or maybe they're not as confident and ask her off, but I imagine they are. Yousi Saros would be good with the Leafs, man, I feel. I mean that, if you, we're talking in theoreticals here, of course, but that's the fun of it. If you have,
00:49:42
Speaker
a goal-tending combination of Yusei Saros and Joseph Wall for under $6 million in Toronto next year. And rotate them properly. And rotate them properly so that Saros isn't playing 60 plus games a year. And you can do that. You have a hill to be who's been amazing in the A. I will just watch politically about that man. That man is tall. That man's strong. That man's Swedish. He's not ready, though.
00:50:08
Speaker
I don't give a fucking Swedish. It's great. Honestly, I'm, I don't think he's ready, but give him like five games depending on how the season goes. Like if it's going well over there, when in Toronto, give him a couple of games, like he's not even like, he's not that bad of a goalie. Like I think you shouldn't like throw them to the wolves. Like you did with the inevitable, uh, wall and party. Yeah. He needs, he needs some reps with the big club. A hundred percent.
00:50:36
Speaker
We see a lot of teams now running with three NHL caliber goalies, right? So I mean, if you're the Leafs and you talk about like, when is the last time that the Toronto Maple Leafs fan base would have been totally content with their goaltending?
00:50:56
Speaker
I don't know the answer to that. Uh, there's a lovely resource called, uh, hockey, goldies.org. And it'll give you the full history of what goalies, honestly, Kujo, you know, right? Because no, that's it.
00:51:10
Speaker
Because, I mean, you talk about, over the last couple of years, like, obviously this year there wasn't that much confidence with Sam Sonoff, Murray Shawgren, the wall, that was actually last year, and then obviously this year Shawgren went off to New Jersey. Um, Campbell Marazzak, Anderson Campbell, Anderson Hutchinson, Anderson Sparks, Anderson McElhaney, Bernier and Reimer.
00:51:32
Speaker
And then they're both gone. Rimer and Scrivens. Gustafson Rimer Scrivens. Rimer Jaguar. Gustafson Toskala Jaguar in 2010. Vesalakujo Gerber. Toskala Raycroft. Raycroft and JS Oban.
00:51:56
Speaker
Bell4 and Telkvist. Oh my god, Telkvist. Like, we're legitimately talking about, I don't think Leafs fans have ever been fully confident and secure in their goaltending since before the 0-4, 0-5 lockout. 90s. 90s, the only time I can remember. I mean, pre-0-4, 0-5 lockout, you're talking Bell4 and Trevor Kidd, Kujo and Corey Schwab. Schwab.
00:52:23
Speaker
Kujo and Glenn Healy. Felix Potman and Glenn Healy. Yeah, late 90s, maybe? Yeah. I imagine more Leafs fans were confident in Kujo and Healy than they were in like Reimer and Scrivens or Gustafson Scrivens or Gustafson Reimer, Bernier Reimer, et cetera, right? So I mean, it's been a long time. This trade makes too much sense, which means it probably won't happen. But man, I hope it does, because I think that would be
00:52:51
Speaker
That would be the big impact move that I think both teams are looking for. It gets Mitch Marner out. Obviously, you know, no trade clauses in effect or whatever. But it would get Mitch Marner out. It would get the Leafs a goaltender. It would make Roman Nashville for their next young goalie, while also getting another impact forward that the team desperately needs. Like Mitch Marner would be the star on that team. No disrespect to Philip Forsberg, who is underrated. And he's the best forward in Pred's history.
00:53:19
Speaker
Yeah, I wouldn't say wouldn't say he's the best player because of the competition from goaltending and defense with the likes of Oh, what's that guy number six? See obviously after that Man yeah, if you get Philip Forsberg who has multiple 40 goals seasons under his belt now he scored 48 goals this year. Oh
00:53:41
Speaker
You get him a Mitch Marner and that guy can hit 50. No problem, I would say. It makes too much sense, but time will tell. I'm really intrigued by that though, for sure. Man, I hope it happens. Last thing to talk about here, of course, the Stanley Cup playoffs now.
Playoff Performances and Challenges
00:54:01
Speaker
I'm having trouble remembering last week, so you know what? We'll just kind of briefly glance over round two before talking about the final four.
00:54:10
Speaker
Dallas knocks off Colorado in six. I viewed Dallas as a legitimate threat in the first place. But the idea of them having to go past Vegas and then Colorado, I'm like, man, I don't know. Are they that good? They are that good. And honestly,
00:54:33
Speaker
We'll talk about favorites and who deserves it more and whatever. Are the Dallas Stars the favorites to win the Stanley Cup right now? I think they are. Maybe they knocked out the defending champs. They knocked out Colorado. They knocked out the last two Stanley Cup champions already. That's a good fucking point. Hmm. That's a hell of a resume to get Florida for reasons he binds because they were just in the cup and they're looking even stronger.
00:55:03
Speaker
Man, it's obviously either Florida or Dallas has to be the the favorite man. I know for my money, I want Dallas to win. So I'm leaning towards them as the favorites. But like Florida is just such a fucking wagon like and they're just dangerous in the playoffs and dangerous in general. Just dirty ass players on that team, man.
00:55:28
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, it's interesting right now because, you know, Razor Sharp had asked a question about, also maybe talk about the much needed parody that's happening in the NBA right now. It's funny because, I mean, I feel like this, like in the NHL, like the favorites have pretty much advanced, right? Like Dallas was a one seed, Tampa was, or Tampa, Edmonton was a two seed, Florida one seed, and New York.
00:55:54
Speaker
was a one as well in their division. Whereas in the NBA, you have a one, a three, a five, and a six. In the final four, the one seed being the Celtics, that everyone's just like, well, this is over. Don't trust the Boston Celtics too much now.
00:56:12
Speaker
that I gotta be honest though, like for the NHL here, I mean like final four, these are four teams where you're just like, yeah, I can see them there. And they all have a very realistic shot at winning the cup. And Dallas, obviously, as we know now, will be playing Edmonton. And, you know, it's no disrespect to Dallas or Colorado at this stage, right? Like there's just not too much necessarily to discuss, I would say.
00:56:40
Speaker
Colorado's faults are kind of obvious. You know, the goaltending didn't hold up. And then they didn't end up getting Landis Gog back for the playoffs like some people thought. And then they fucking lost Valerian Nachushkin in the middle of the playoffs. Those three things killed them. That is what it is. And I'm just going to say this. Edmonton has a lot of the same problems that Colorado does. And they're taking on a team which is P Colorado. Like Edmonton, quite top-heavy.
00:57:08
Speaker
defense better. It's actually, it's underrated this, this season. I think their defenses in a lot of ways they are like their XGA is, is actually in really good shape. But the fact of the matter is, it's like when they roll out nurse and CC it's, it's detrimental and their goaltending is incredibly sus. So like you can have a great XGA, uh, but when your goaltender is allowing way too many goals to like, and again, that was kind of the issue for the abs. Um,
00:57:40
Speaker
I worry, you know, I definitely worry for Edmonton. I'd love to see obviously McJesus in the cup finals winning a cup, but that team just has so many goddamn flaws. And I look at Dallas and they've blown some leads too, to be fair, but it's to the most cheating offense of offensive cheaters alive, which was the Colorado Avalanche. Like they, they're probably the best team in on the planet when it comes to, Oh my God, we're down. We need to score. And then they can do it. Like, cause McKinnon, Raunton in my car,
00:58:09
Speaker
They just have it all over the ice. And yeah, the Rangers Florida series is interesting me. I feel like the Rangers have had way too easy of a path. And now they interface a real team. I could be wrong. And maybe it's my own biases against the Rangers, but mostly Adam Fox that is leading me to this. But I don't know, man. I think they could absolutely get embarrassed by Florida.
00:58:39
Speaker
But time will tell. To go back quickly to the Western Conference here. Like I said, Dallas and Colorado is pretty straightforward. I mean, Dallas as well, their strength, I mean, it's across the lineup. Like the fucking crazy thing is Jake Ottinger hasn't exactly been unbelievable. He has a 918 safe percentage in this postseason so far. That is third best.
00:59:07
Speaker
Like, if you're getting anything above, like, like, Bobrovsky has a 902. Wow. Anything above a 900 save percentage, and you're cooking. By the way, Igor Shasturkin at a 923. Jeremy Swateman, number one, at a 933, and the Bruins still fucking lost. What a waste. That is Lunkfist-era Rangers right there, by the way. Jesus Christ, yeah, you're not wrong. That's a very apt comparison.
00:59:43
Speaker
We'll talk about Edmonton in a minute, but in regards to Vancouver, I see a lot of Canucks fans obviously disappointed, but I think a lot of people are viewing it kind of as I viewed the Boston Bruins this year. I put out a video about the Bruins as well last week, once they did get eliminated, where I kind of mentioned all the shortcomings for them heading into the season, right? Like a lot of people didn't really view the Boston Bruins as a likely playoff team.
01:00:03
Speaker
I wanted to quickly talk about Edmonton and Vancouver though, because obviously that series went seven.
01:00:07
Speaker
You know, again, Buffalo, Ottawa, Detroit, making strides, they're probably gonna step up. For the Bruins to nearly win the division was a bit of a surprise for them to win in round one. Yes, I know it's against the Leafs, but it was still a bit of a surprise. I think Vancouver was in a similar situation. Maybe not quite as bad, even. But I think a lot of people were just like, man, there's kind of weird vibes around the team. You've had like, fuck JT Miller, nevermind. We love JT Miller. There's just been inconsistencies.
01:00:36
Speaker
Before the Canucks to make it to within one game of the conference final It's a nice sign of progress. Let's be honest though. They should have fucking closed it out They had two games to close it out and they fucking failed to do it, especially game seven on home ice Yeah, they came out flat in that game. They're like 26 to 7 at 1.24 to 7 atrocious
01:01:00
Speaker
I think you can be happy about the improvements, but also just like, what the fuck? Because that should be the attitude. They blew their chance. They had a legitimate shot. And Patterson was... It's because of the faults that you mentioned in regards to the Oilers. The goaltending. Stuart Skinner was horrific in this series, but Vancouver let Edmonton off the hook.
01:01:24
Speaker
because the Oilers turned it over to Pickard, who did well, and then you're like, yeah, let's go back to our guy in Skinner, and the Canucks didn't take advantage. I'm just very surprised by that. In regards to the Canucks, though, like a big question coming up, obviously, is this offseason and how do they bounce back, right? Because you have the positive side of, hey, we made it to the second round. You have the negative of, oh, fuck, we blew it. The Canucks' offseason, they don't have too many major,
01:01:54
Speaker
Maybe not. Maybe they do have some major decisions. I was going to say UFA, Ford's Teddy Bluger, Dakota Joshua, Sam Lafferty, Elias Lindholm is the big one. Obviously a lot of people are just like, oh my God, Elias Lindholm to the Bruins. And I'm like, hmm. I mean, he's better than Charlie Coyle and Pavel Zaka, but you see that much better. I don't know. But on defense, UFA's Ian Cole, Mark Friedman, Tyler Myers is up as is Nikita Zadorov. By Myers keeps Zadorov.
01:02:24
Speaker
Yeah. And in goal, RFA is Sheeloffs and RFA defenseman, Philip Ronnick. And we got some questions about this on Vancouver. Yeah. I play hockey with his dad. We got some small town. I'm telling you a small, small world. We got this question from AJ, of course, in regards to the Canucks. How did the Canucks handle Ronnick? Qualifying offer is going to be around 5.5 million, but Ronnick's camp allegedly wants like seven or eight million
01:02:55
Speaker
and he'll be able to file for arbitration. What's the safest play? It's a bit much. If I'm a Canucks fan, I'm just worried of like, oh god, we're just getting out of the Tyler Myers contract. Do we want to go with a contract that could be viewed as somewhat risky? Coincidentally, they're kind of in the same situation that Detroit was in with them.
01:03:20
Speaker
where they're like, yeah, he's good, but we just don't necessarily want to pay him what he's going to want to get paid, which is why he got traded to Vancouver in the first place. And by some metrics, man, he had a down year to where it's weird. He had a down year on a team that was better than the year before.
01:03:42
Speaker
I'd imagine they're looking at trade options. I don't know, man. Like anything, like if qualifying offers a 5.5 million, anything above that, I'd be pretty fucking nervous. Yeah, I'd be worried. Um, so if they qualify him, can he still go to arbitration or is that only if they offer him a deal? I don't know how it works completely, but I would just qualify him and let him sit there.
01:04:05
Speaker
Yeah, in regards to those specifics, I actually don't know myself. I'm assuming you have to be offering them a deal, and then you take them to arbitration, because it wouldn't make sense. Yeah, here's our offer. Here's what we want. Go to the arbitrator. But yeah, I mean, I would imagine it would work as like, OK, we're only going to offer you the qualifying offer, and then he could still file for arbitration. I'm not sure. The Canucks have $24 million in cap space.
01:04:35
Speaker
to solve these issues and to try and improve the team. It's not too bad, especially considering Pederson signed. Right. Although a lot of Canucks fans are wondering if there if there was an injury there or what the hell happened. In the playoffs, Pederson had six points and one goal in 13 games.
01:05:00
Speaker
It's not what you need out of your 11.6 mil guy. That's you're supposed to be your onesie. That's supposed to be your franchise. And I believe at one point he was playing on the third line. He was outscored and out produced by Dakota Joshua. Concerning.
01:05:19
Speaker
Very, very concerning. Okay, Elon. Sorry, just a minute. I know, the concerning. Fuck that guy. Jesus Christ, you and your fucking stupid ass truck. Obviously, like I said, there's positives for the Canucks. There's negatives, right? It's like, oh, we made it. We didn't really expect to make it. Oh, but we could have gone further. Oh, but Demko was out and maybe Pederson's heard. And it's just, this is...
01:05:44
Speaker
This is like a super crucial time for them, right? Like, okay, you just had some playoff success, you're gonna feel like you could have gone further, you have some big free agents, you have to be smart about who you give the money to. And in the past, with a certain former GM, they were very unwise with who they decided to give the money to, and for how long.
01:06:07
Speaker
This is where Patrick is. This is where it's make or break for him. He's been the GM of the team for two years now. He was named in January of 2022.
01:06:17
Speaker
But this is it, like this offseason is going to define his tenure as Canucks GM in terms of whether or not like, okay, this was the start of getting them to that next level, or this is where the fucking wheels fell off. They do not have their first or second round pick this year either. So their big splashes are coming in the form of who you give that money to, who is that supporting cast?
01:06:43
Speaker
Especially when Patterson's on 1.6 now JT Miller on eight Brock Besser, which that's another fucking x-factor as to why you could say they just couldn't pull it off because the blood clot issue that was gonna take him out for the rest of the playoffs anyway, which I
01:07:00
Speaker
I don't think anybody listening to this is gonna be that big of a dumb fuck, but of course they were people on Twitter. Next! When people are responding with, well no, there were studies about this in 2015 about players and blood clot issues. And is it really that surprising when you're taking the wear and tear that you are and then you're on an airplane two to three hours a night?
01:07:22
Speaker
Yeah, you know, yeah, no shit like their professional athletes putting their bodies through the rigors of playing a professional sport, training for the professional sport, traveling for the professional sport. And they suffer a lot of trauma in the form of fucking physical contact. Like, no matter how minor, it's still considered trauma. Like if you get fucking punched in the leg, that's a form of trauma. And I know, you know, like, yeah, that's just I mean, yeah, there's that one soccer player got a blood clot for me and like kicked in the calf or something like that, right?
01:07:52
Speaker
Yeah, like that happens all the time. Yeah. So fucking hell. Stop being stupid. So all that talk about the Canucks, I want to mention this. There are two specific things for the Oilers, right? I mean, because we've already kind of mentioned, hey, it's a goaltending sucked. You got to figure that out because that's scary to have goaltending when you're about to play Dallas. Here's another here. OK, here's another concern, but I'll do a positive first. The positive is that Evan Bouchard has 20 points.
01:08:21
Speaker
The most in NHL history by a defenseman through the first two rounds of a single postseason. You mentioned their defense stepping up. He's a large part of that. He has absolutely developed into that true top defenseman offensive threat. He's third in scoring on the team, only behind McDavid in the dry title. Yeah.
01:08:41
Speaker
Good for him and good for all the Oilers fans multiple years ago, telling me to make him elite. And I would only make him a high top four because I was unsure. But Jesus Christ, he is something special and good for them. Here's the concerning aspect. There's a short deal, doesn't he? Sorry. Yeah, Bouchard. I'm pretty sure they only signed into like a kind of a bridge deal because they had to keep cap down. You know, I wasn't even going to say that he was the concerning part. He is a concerning part.
01:09:10
Speaker
When's he come off? Is it this summer? Three point nine million through next year. And then he's an RFA again. Hey, through next year is still pretty good. But he's going to see that. That's it ties into by by Dr. Seidel. Yeah. Shark. Just kidding. By by Seidel. Hey, we have a fucking German owner. We might hire Marco Sturm as our head coach, German coach. Bring in the German. Yeah. Yeah.
01:09:38
Speaker
Oh yeah, bring in Mositer too. Just give us all the Germans. We'll have the German and Finnish and Swedish contingent. Here's the concerning part for Edmonton. You kind of need to do it this year. Here's the reason why.
01:09:55
Speaker
With the Oilers moving on to the third round, forward Corey Perry has earned himself a 50k performance bonus. This now raises Edmonton's overage penalty to 3.5 million next season. Yes, and his bonuses in playing games.
01:10:16
Speaker
So, next year, they have a $3.5 million Overage Penalty and nearly a $2 million cap hit of dead cap from a James Neal buyout. Oh yeah, James. Here's the kicker. UFA goalie, Calvin Pickard. Not a big deal. UFA defenseman, Troy Stetcher and Vinny De Jarnay. RFA defenseman, Philip Broberg. That's not huge.
01:10:47
Speaker
De Jarnay is huge, but not a big deal. They currently have seven forwards with a cap hit for next season. With a listed $9.8 million in cap space. RFA Dylan Holloway, who you need to hope will agree to a bridge deal. He's had some decent moments in the playoffs.
01:11:13
Speaker
UFA is Connor Brown, Sam Carrick, Warren Fogel, Sam Gagne, Adam Henrique, Matias Yanmark, and Corey Perry. You have, like I said, just under $10 million. I don't even think, actually, I don't even think the overage has kicked in yet to the open cap space. I'm actually not sure. So you might have even less.
01:11:35
Speaker
to get a surrounding core around this team in case they fail, to keep pushing. They need five to six guys, probably six, and they're only going to have either six mil or nine mil. Next year is the final year of Leon Dry's title at 8.5 million. This is it. You got this year and maybe next.
01:11:57
Speaker
to get this shit done or you fucking blew it. And the problem is that supporting cast right now isn't putting up points.
01:12:07
Speaker
Corey Perry, zero points in 10 games. Ryan McCloud, zero points in 12 games. Derek Ryan, one point in nine. Sam Carrick, one point in five. Connor Brown, one point in six. Darnell Nurse, by the way, who you're paying a shitload of money to, two points in 12 games on defense. Adam Henrik, two points in six games. Warren Fogel, two in 12. Jan Mark, three in 12. Holloway, four in 12. Evander Kane, seven in 12.
01:12:38
Speaker
You have depth scoring issues still. You have goaltending concerns and you're going up against Dallas who knocked out the last two Stanley Cup champions. I don't know how the fuck they figured out. I mean, the Oilers could win the cup this year, but Jesus fuck doesn't look perilous. Yeah. What was that? Ken Holland, masterclass. Like you made it through LA and five and Vancouver and seven.
01:13:08
Speaker
Sin said that he thought the Rangers had the easiest path. And I agree. Them going through, well, do I? Because, okay, I think it's close. Like, okay, so the Rangers go through Carolina. That's a tough out. I think Carolina drastically underperformed. We'll talk about that in a second. But then they went through Washington, which, easy enough, done.
01:13:31
Speaker
But Edmonton only went through LA, and then Vancouver pushed them to 7. LA was a tough out in a way, because they were a trap team. And they still had COBITAR, they still have Dowdy. Obviously, a bunch of their young talent too. I think they're a way tougher team than Washington was. I don't think it's fair to even come close to comparing those two. Washington at least. No, I'm not saying anybody compares to Washington. I'm just saying, like, man, that Edmonton path,
01:14:00
Speaker
Wasn't that much more difficult than the Rangers path conference final fair I would consider Vancouver and Carolina honestly on the same level and I know a lot of people disagree with me But I think Carolina has the type of questions in especially in their goaltending they've tried to do it by committee for forever and it's just not working and Freddie Anderson is just
01:14:22
Speaker
We can talk about Carolina right now, because there was concerns about is Rod Brenda Moore going to go. He has stayed. He has re-signed. Ah, fuck. Did he? Shit, I was kind of hoping the Sharks might take a run at him if he didn't. Yeah, they extended him for five years over the weekend.
01:14:38
Speaker
OK, well, clearly I wasn't paying attention to Twitter over the weekend. Endo to answer your question from an hour ago news. Yeah, it was very exciting. It was it was relatively quiet. Carolina, twenty seven million dollars in cap space. They
Team Development and Trade Rumors
01:14:53
Speaker
have five RFA forwards for UFA forwards for UFA defenseman and an RFA defenseman. Nature's rooming to go, obviously. That's been around for a while.
01:15:05
Speaker
And their goaltending is still locked up as Freddy Anderson at 3.4 and Kachekov at 2. They do have some massive questions. Kachekov needs to be the guy, man. He needs to be the guy. Yeah. And you mentioned Neches. He's one of the RFA forwards, UFA forwards, Jake Gensl, Taravine, and Martin Knacen. Brett Pesci is a UFA defenseman, as is D'Angelo, but he can't play defense. So welcome.
01:15:36
Speaker
Uh, yeah, fun fact about, uh, don't worry. They can fix them. I'll be right back. Uh, they partnered back up with Chicago again for their age NHL agreement. I'm not sure we talked about this, but historically they had a really bad season in the NHL last year. Well, this past season, so they decided, yeah, we kind of need to have, you know, prospects in our pool instead of having a mostly NHL roster. I mean, it got rock, moldy, like extra points.
01:16:06
Speaker
So, hey, you might get an NHL deal again next year. Who knows? And then in regards to the other matchup that we haven't mentioned, Florida and Boston, like I said, I put out a video kind of talking about every aspect of like what's coming up next.
01:16:24
Speaker
for the Bruins, what this series could have been. It was a bit of a wasted opportunity. I really don't have too much more to add aside from what I had mentioned in that particular video. So check that out if you haven't. Again, Florida.
01:16:42
Speaker
Definitely the, uh, definitely the better team. But again, the Bruins had some, some wasted potential for sure. It's the only way to, to really view it. And then they got questions like, it's funny. Cause last night I mentioned this, uh, when we were, when we were golfing on stream, um,
01:17:02
Speaker
I hope that Bruins management knows what they're doing because like the Boston Bruins subreddit, they don't have a fucking clue about what they want or the best way forward for the team. And the best way to summarize that, there was a post in the Boston Bruins subreddit.
01:17:24
Speaker
where someone screenshotted a suggested trade, or a fantasy trade. And it was Edmonton Trades, Leon Drizetle to Boston for Almark, Lorai, Patra, first and second round picks. And the headline on this Bruin subreddit post was, just in case you needed a laugh today, as if there's no way the Bruin should give up that for Leon Drizetle.
01:17:49
Speaker
That concerns me that that's an attitude from some people within the Bruins Phantom. Because I hope that isn't the headline from within the fucking front office because I would drive all three of them to the airport if it meant... I would carry Leon Drycidal on my back from Edmonton to Boston if it meant that he was gonna be a Bruin. Yeah.
01:18:15
Speaker
Like fucking one hell of a move you would you do it in the heartbeat and of all things he could be that That extra piece that you know, you know Boston's historically had a had a pretty good selkie winner for the past like how many years? No, he's bringing over the Boston. He comes in there becomes another selkie guy becomes a retreats Bergeron Memorial Award winner Yeah, who knows I mean
01:18:39
Speaker
That, you know, that was like the crux of the video for me, is that people are like, oh, uh, Windholm, Nugent Hopkins, which isn't gonna happen. Stamp code, like, the one thing the Boston Bruins are missing now is the number one center. Like, it's clear. Like, you look at that roster, and that was pretty much the main point of the video. You look at that Bruins roster in the center core of Coyle, Geeky, Zaka. That's not a cup-winning core down the middle. Like, we are obviously, in a second, about to talk about the final four.
01:19:07
Speaker
Look at who the Panthers have down the middle with, you know, Sasha Barkoff, especially leading the way, like the Bruins do not have a Sasha Barkoff, you know, Anton Lundell, Sam Bennett down the middle, like that's a better center court than what the Bruins have. The New York Rangers have Zabana Jad and Trocek.
01:19:27
Speaker
as their top two centers. The Oilers obviously have fucking McDavid and Drycidal and the Dallas Stars have Wyatt Johnston, Matt Duchain and Tyler Sagan as their three centers right now.
01:19:40
Speaker
Like, you need that top performing center. You need to win draws. That's basically flat out. You need to win draws. If you're winning draws, you're not going to win games. And shout back to, what, game five and game six? Max Domi stepped up when he had to and then played amazing. And then they put him on the third line immediately after. Yeah. I mean, unless a team fucking blows it like the Leafs do, odds are if you have that really strong forward core, that really strong center core, you're going to do well.
01:20:09
Speaker
Oh yeah, strong center core. Yeah, Sin's feeling pretty good right now as a strike saver force. Yeah.
01:20:17
Speaker
So to wrap up the playoff, Demi Dov instead. I mean, hey, you guys didn't pick the Russian last year, and that wasn't quite a mistake, but they apparently is coming over as Russian forwards coming over sooner than expected. You know, good for them and all the teams that pass them. And that's just the risk you took. But yeah, I'm still of the I still love fucking Will Smith like holy shit. Get rid of towards now.
01:20:44
Speaker
He didn't have a defensive coach now. Watch this. Oh, my God. This torch is going to be like, you know, good, good shot. Good shot. But can you block them? John Tortorella with a five foot ten, one hundred and seventy five pound Russian kid. Oh, no. You know, Philly. Oh, Philly, you got to change coaches. That kid's going to get thrown in the locker room, just torch is going to go away. Paper bags.
01:21:15
Speaker
Torch is going to bully that. So we are at the final four and we have one more viewer question
NHL Fanbase Deserves and Respect
01:21:23
Speaker
here. And this is from razor sharp with each of the NHL semifinalists having not won the cup in the last 25 years or more, if not ever power rank the remaining fan bases from most to least deserving to see that drought. And now really quickly,
01:21:40
Speaker
A little quiz. Fan bases, huh? All right. Gentlemen, when's the last time the Dallas Stars won the Stanley Cup? Oh, it was shit. They won it in the last 25 years. They are the most recent winner out of the bunch. 1999 over Buffalo. That's right, yeah. It was an increase, baby. 2000. It was an increase. When's the last time the Edmonton Oilers won the Stanley Cup? 87?
01:22:11
Speaker
Endo, any guess? E-9. 1989, 90. The USA won without Gretzky with Messier leading. Oh, right. Right. Yeah. The Florida Panthers. They've never won the cup. Correct. Good trick question. And of course, the New York Rangers. Ninety four. Correct. Oh, I'm so fucking good.
01:22:38
Speaker
So in terms of these rankings, right? Cause the question was like, in terms of fan bases, you could also rank it in terms of like who you want to see win the most. Cause they're not going to be like intrinsically tied together, but they are going to be pretty close. In terms of though, this question, like who deserves, we'll go who deserves the win the most. Uh, fan base or like team?
01:23:05
Speaker
I'd say there's so many. We'll answer the question as it was written. What fan base deserves the win the most? Oh, man. It's a tough one. Honest. That's a really tough one. For me, it's one and two and I'm trying to decide the order of Edmonton in Florida.
01:23:32
Speaker
Yeah, I think oilers fans have gone through so much shit over the last 18 years. Like I get there are a lot of people, the old heads that are just like, I never want to see them fucking win again because Jesus Christ, all they did was win. But that team post 06 Cup lost to Carolina.
01:23:58
Speaker
went through a lot of shit. Now you can say, well, did they really? Cause first overall pick after first overall pick, but at the same time they had to witness pure incompetence and honestly still kind of are that team is in the conference final in spite of horrific front office work. Because as you saw, we talked about the fucking roster and the faults of it. So I respect that fan base in a lot of ways,
01:24:28
Speaker
for sticking with that team through just wastefulness, especially in the mid 2010s, early mid 2010s. The Florida Panthers on the other hand, for all that shit.
01:24:43
Speaker
that that fanbase went through. Now look, a lot of that fanbase still won't fucking show up in the regular season, right? That is what it is. But they pack that fucking barn in the playoffs, even though it's out in the middle of the fucking swamp. They pack that barn in, and I hate the term barn, but god damn it, I'm trying to stick it to traditional lists, that wanted to see that team moved. Constantly.
01:25:06
Speaker
When it wasn't the Coyotes, it was the Panthers. And especially over 10 years ago now, when the Coyotes made it to the conference finals against the Kings, the Florida Panthers were the team where people were like, hockey doesn't work in untraditional markets, move the Panthers, move the Panthers. That was absolutely the case.
01:25:24
Speaker
And that fanbase that you see, call them bandwagoners if you want, but let's be honest, that's how it fucking works. If your team is shit year in and year out, nobody wants to watch your fucking games except the diehards who know they can go in and watch a hockey game for cheap.
01:25:39
Speaker
And guess what? There's a lot of other sports in the States, whereas in Canada, hockey is your number one. In the States, hockey is not close to number one. So yeah, a lot of them are going to be like that. I'm actually going to say, I was kind of the same with you, but I also, Dallas is interesting too.
01:25:58
Speaker
But I'm also with you. I think it's between Edmonton, Florida. I'm giving the edge to Florida, actually. Because they had to fucking put up with Tampa Bay winning the cups and making three straight appearances. They had to put up with a rival shoving it in their face. I know what that's like. OK. Two, well, tactically three times over. Two LA cups and then fucking Vegas. Anaheim, too, in 2007. Four cups.
01:26:30
Speaker
Yeah, that was like yeah the beginning of the Perry gets laughter and I almost kind of forgot that yeah, but yeah So for me, I think my official order is Florida Edmonton Dallas in New York and it's not because I have anything against the New York Rangers I do I'd actually really I wouldn't mind seeing the New York Rangers win for some personal reasons that I won't get into but it's
01:26:58
Speaker
I'm not like oh not anybody but them like I don't I don't have that viewpoint this year and I do think again to stick it to fucking bullshit hockey traditionalist fuck boys three of the last five Stanley cups going to a Florida-based team would be fucking hilarious
01:27:16
Speaker
and you know what not to mention fuck it I don't even care because I'm not the one that chose to end the friendship with my old co-host I'd still be happy for him if the Florida Panthers won the Stanley Cup I would be you know so Endo what fan base deserves at the most what fan base deserves at the least Florida deserves of the most
01:27:39
Speaker
Edmonton doesn't deserve it because fucking Edmonton man. I don't I still like the way they treated Ethan bear I don't give I don't give a fuck the way that they treated them they You know the they are like we're gonna rally behind and we're gonna have a camp for him for indigenous player Indigenous people like, you know the velvet learn to play hockey and then the week of the camp they train in the Carolina The week of the camp they train in the Carolina and they cancel the camp. I
01:28:07
Speaker
Fair enough. I know the Rangers are at the bottom of your list. Cancel culture advocates, Alberta, what a surprise. Yeah, well. In terms of the fan base, mostly it's deserving, does that line up with who you'd like to see win the cup? Or is that a different? No, I would like to see Dallas win the cup. Okay. Because Pavelski.
01:28:31
Speaker
Yeah. Oh shit. This is his last go. Now that doesn't have anything to do with the fans, but that's who I want to see win the cup. He's man. He, he, he doesn't have it anymore. It's very clear. Um, this is, this is it, man. This is it for paths. I want to see him win the cup. I want to see captain fucking America, the big Pavolsky hoist that thing above his five foot 11 frame.
01:28:56
Speaker
And then I will send that gift to all the fucking Vegas fans. I don't even care if it's not my team team. The Povelsky payback, bitch. Part two. You know, that's a really fair point, right? Like I'm looking at the rosters and Edmonton obviously has some people, you know, that you can root for the star power of McDavid and Dryseidal. Rich, rich boy, Richie, rich boy, Zach Hyman.
01:29:21
Speaker
yeah and certainly root for him um but in looking at these rosters i like dallas has the most like veteran presence that i think you'd like to really see get over the edge like i think
01:29:41
Speaker
You know, Florida. If Florida wins the cup this year, Sergey Bobrovsky might make the fucking Hall of Fame with this weird of a fucking careers he has. If he gets that cup ring, that might seal the deal for his argument. Maybe. Which is crazy. I don't know if I'd vote him in, but I think he could. He's got two business, right? Yes. Yeah. I think. Or he has one, and he might get a second this year. Might be the number. OK. The Dallas Stars. You have number one, Jason Robertson, who I adore.
01:30:10
Speaker
You have Matt Duchain, which, through all the ups and downs of Colorado, Ottawa, and Asheville, goes through Colorado en route to a cup? That's a pretty good story. Jamie Ben can fuck off. But you have Joe Pavelski. You have Tyler Sagan, which would be his second cup. And he won as a rookie. Yeah.
01:30:36
Speaker
I mean, you know, the massive injuries he went through. I'll still always root for Tyler Sagan though. On defense. Chris Tanev at 34. Ryan suitor at 39. He doesn't have a cup. No, no, he doesn't. There, there would be some veteran. I mean, God, he and Pavelski are both 39 Jesus.
01:31:03
Speaker
Like I said that for me there isn't that one team or I'm like no and anybody but then no I don't have that at all that the only teams God damn it In terms of the team I'd want to see win the most I think it is Dallas That order for me is Dallas, Florida for the first time winner Dallas number one for the veterans, New York third
01:31:30
Speaker
For me, it's Edmonton, the least. Ooh, as much New York over fucking McJesus. Hear me out. I hate you. As much as I want Connor McDavid to be in a Stanley Cup final. And Leon Dricidal, for that matter. There are two things that make me root against it. Management. Management and 1993.
01:32:08
Speaker
If a Canadian team's gonna win the cup, I want it to be the Toronto Maple Leafs coming back from 3-0 down in the cup final. I want people to just destroy themselves with the Leafs being down 3-0. Leafs fans, chief amongst them, destroying themselves. And then I want to see the Steve Dangle redemption arc over four games and just how fucking happy he'd be.
01:32:21
Speaker
because it would still be fucking hilarious to not have a Canadian team win again.
01:32:32
Speaker
Like, that'd be the most torturous way for not only the Leafs, but all the other Canadian fan bases. Neil would be going nuts on Sens fans. Jesus Christ. The social media fun. How often does that happen? It's very rarely fun, but that would be pretty fun. Yeah, just just for the fact that like Edmonton, the Canadian thing doesn't bother me as much. I just don't want that fucking management team to get rewarded.
01:33:00
Speaker
Because you don't fucking deserve it. Like you've done the same thing every year. I'm like, ah, we'll just send Connor and Leon out there and whoever else. It'll work out. I don't want that. It'll work out approach to actually fucking work out. You don't deserve it. What are you doing there? That's funny.
01:33:15
Speaker
And like the only the only blessing that the Edmonton brothers had was a Vander Kain's little buyout from a sorry contract termination. Yeah. With the sharks. That's not that wasn't even about that was a full out like you're you're done. Yeah, you're done. Yeah. And then like you just kind of went like they just zip their lips about what happened afterwards. Mm hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Reminder of that story.
01:33:46
Speaker
On October 18th, 2021, Kane was suspended by the NHL for the opening 21 games of the season for, quote, violation of and lack of compliance with the NHL and NHLPA COVID-19 protocols.
01:34:01
Speaker
On November 28th of 2021, following its completion of the suspension, sharks placed him on waivers and he was reassigned to the AHL for the first time in his career, joining the San Jose Barracuda. On January 8th, it was announced that the sharks had placed Kane on unconditional waivers for purpose of terminating his contract due to violation of AHL COVID-19 protocols.
01:34:24
Speaker
Shortly after the news, San Jose's effort to terminate Kane's contract broke, reports began to circulate that the Oilers were interested in signing Kane. He always had begun to season strongly, but it ended up prolonging Slide, yada, yada. The addition of Kane, a proficient scorer, was seen as a potential answer. On January 27, 2022, Kane signed a one-year deal with the Oilers. Um... Just...
01:34:49
Speaker
Just breaking those protocols. What protocols? We don't know. We used breaking protocols, terminate the contract. Oh, all of a sudden the sharks don't have to buy them out or retain salary on a trade. Nope, all of a sudden the oilers can pick them up for dirt cheap. Pretty convenient.
01:35:04
Speaker
I have the protocol list. I don't know what exactly it is, but I have a PDF with the protocols for COVID-19 protocols for the NHL and the AHL. I could go through this and speculate, but that's stupid. I'm sure it's fucking pages long. The fact is like the Sharks got out of his contract, which carried a cap of seven million through next season, by the way. The Oilers have him for dirt cheap.
Personal Projects and Hobbies
01:35:30
Speaker
And now I think it was like top five.
01:35:34
Speaker
You know, there was one point where it's like, you know, it's like, oh, did he travel home when he wasn't supposed to and whatever the hell, but anyway, yeah, there's that. Any other thoughts? Band basis, team, you want to win anything at all? Yeah. Cool. Endo, what do you got going on as we bring this podcast to a close?
01:35:54
Speaker
Nothing, I'm working, I'm learning how to put down tile, hardwood, floor, and all that stuff. Not Twitch related, unfortunately. And I don't know where I'm going to stream. But if you want, you can catch SL hanging out almost every night with Tukey over at Twitch.tv slash Tukey24. That's Twitch.tv slash Tukey24.
01:36:17
Speaker
Yeah. Well, I've still got my Utah mammoth series going on on the YouTube side of things. I'm also streaming on YouTube doing some NHL 2K 10 franchise mode. We're rebuilding the Leafs obviously vastly before the Matthews era. And it's been a goddamn blast. Very meme worthy and a hell of a lot of fun. So hope come check that out. I'll probably be going live in about an hour or so. We'll see. There you go.
01:36:44
Speaker
And, uh, yeah, I'm still on Twitch pretty much every night. YouTube stuff all the time. Um, Twitch-wise, I don't know what the hell we're doing. If we're playing anything tonight, I don't even know. I want to go back to college football. F1 comes out in a week. I don't know. Sin's leaving in like, what, three days? No, a week. Not three, a week. Okay. We'll figure things out. Yeah. Fun times. Can't wait until college football 25 drops. Cause holy fuck that. Oh my God. I wonder if this is a scam.
01:37:15
Speaker
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Speaker
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Humorous Debates and Scams
01:37:39
Speaker
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Speaker
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01:38:16
Speaker
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01:38:34
Speaker
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01:39:02
Speaker
General Lee, Cybertruck. Rent a sword. Or we sell scooters, comrade. Oh fuck, there's gotta be a rent a sword. Endo, thoughts? Oh yeah, scooters.
01:39:22
Speaker
God damn it. Generally, scooter swords. Generally, Cybertruck is pretty good too, but yeah. I'll put it up to Twitter, I guess. With that, everybody, thank you for listening, for watching. We love you, we'll see you later. Thanks for listening to us randos talk about hockey. It's a good time. Alright.