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The debate continues
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We debate everything from plumbing to Pokémon!!! Yes, Pokémon!
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Beard Grooming & Relationships
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Good evening. Good evening, fellow tradesmen and women. How is everybody out there? going to give this a few minutes. set up the Set up a couple things here. Here we go.
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Here we go.
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The requests have been sent.
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that work. It's always a bit dangerous. Boom. Boom. Can you hear me? I can hear you. Can you hear me? I can. I can. I like the beard.
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It's very pretty tonight.
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You know, that's the best thing about it is I don't put any effort to in at all. just wake up and go. yeah you got some of Yeah, you got one of those good ones that it just goes grows straight down.
00:00:59
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Mine has this stupid calic in it. So it grows like sideways and it doesn't start going it doesn't start going straight down. So like it gets about yours. So I don't even bother. I just get it all chopped off by then.
00:01:11
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Too much work. The bride won't let you get that far? Do I now? The bride won't let you get that far? Your significant other? i mean, she likes it. When we met, I didn't have a beard and she was like, grow your beard. And I grew it. And then she was like, never shave it off. And I was like, okay.
00:01:29
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So, you know, do do what she says. Yeah. Happy wife, happy life. You know? Yeah. That's not wrong. That's not wrong. Yeah.
Georgia's Agricultural Shift
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So, so you took some flash. Oh, here. Yeah. Oh, we'll get to your eye. I apparently you're part of the Illuminati, but we're going to save, we're going to save that for a couple of minutes down the road.
00:01:53
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Oh yeah. get Some flack for, for coming on here with me or what? Oh no. Well, kind of well, ah curiosity more so than, than, than like, you know, hate, you know, more, more, more so like why, why? And I'm like, why not?
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Like, like, and that's the whole thing is that I don't think like people are understanding. Like i kind of see it like you're kind of onto something and, and, You're like right there. And I'm like, okay, like I'm kind of someone that kind of knows what he's talking about with the whole sales thing, you know, and this sort this whole kind of like corporate structure when it comes to like the trades and and the service construction industry. So I was like, man, I should jump on here, you know, and ah kind of throw my two cents in and just kind of fill people in also that like, he's not the only one that that sees this and is like, nope, this isn't good.
00:02:42
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So. yeah it's Yeah, I think it's terrible. I think it's terrible. Oh, i I mean, yeah, go. Yeah. No, where? Okay, so let's start. Where are you? Where are you at? I think, I mean, back when we were having our little back and forth, Georgia, the peach state.
00:02:59
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Yes, which it's not even really the peach state anymore. It's like the peanut state. so The economics have changed? yeah yeah yeah i believe Yeah, I think so. I could be wrong. We used to be the poultry capital of the world. like Gainesville, Georgia was the poultry capital of the world.
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so But we're not that anymore either. It's all gone underground. It's all peanuts. It's all peanuts. And cotton, I think. I don't know. i don't even know if they make cotton anymore. I think everything's plastic fibers.
00:03:29
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have you have you have you Have you bought those those towels, those rags at Home Depot and you go to like wipe up water and it just smears it everywhere and you're just like, what? Yeah. It doesn't suck anything up? No, nothing at all until like the rag is completely wet and then it works. It's plastic. That's what that is. It's like a plastic polymer fiber.
00:03:48
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so Yeah, you spin it into a little microfiber stupid thing. I won't scratch anything, sure, but I won't mop anything up either. No, it just smears it all around. I just get to you know shop towels, just ruin the environment a little more, and just kill more trees.
Plumbing Industry Insights
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so now no i you know i um yeah no i i'm I've worked for a multitude of service plumbing companies that implement a salesperson. I don't know if you've seen the account yet. and i and I reached out to them and they were like, yeah, totally if you could. but It's called Leakey's Texas USA.
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um It's like a little yellow. So he or or that company, I don't know if it's the company or the the guy that is kind of like the face of it is like his account or his his company, but like he came out of nowhere and it was right around the time...
00:04:37
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um you know that that i had left like this really bad service plan i can't really talk about it because they're there all i can say is that there was a lawsuit and you know we uh won um but i can't say anything more because this attorney's office will they they could be probably watching right now that put it this way that's how sneaky they are so i'm yeah exactly like hi hello um so but But because of this, I've learned a lot about um service plumbing companies, but also like the the training that they implement. One of it is called, I think it's Nextar, and it's very famously known that that that is um you know to come in and do this kind of one-size-fits-all training module for the trades to get their sales up.
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And it's one of these crazy things. And and and I won't say, and and I'll say this, it's great for someone like young who needs help, like if they're confident, you know, with selling to a customer, because we all sell in a way, but there's the right way to do it. And then there's the wrong way to do it, you know?
00:05:43
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and And, you know, I guess legally, I'm not going to say Nextar is good or bad, but I will say that I've seen guys that have gone through training like that and they implement fear mongering or financial leaning on the customer to get them to make that sale that day.
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You know, they they are massive. Like I was and I'll keep names out of it because whatever, do the same as you. We had up here in Canada, it was called Success Cruise International, and they've changed to, I was just looking it up here, a certain path, but they're basically, you know, the competition of Nextar, but I think Nextar has sort of eclipsed everybody and are the sort of preeminent, they're like the service titan, right? Or they're like, you if you haven't heard of service titan or Nextar, then you're not actually in the space.
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Yeah. I use her you right now so do i've used oh yeah Service Sight and Housecall Pro. I've used all those. so you know and And that's through the companies I've worked with. And
Tech & Security in Water Systems
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so are you... i mean, i get the impression, just a little bit more about you, I guess, is that you are...
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I thought you were like a sole proprietor, but you're are you now? or Well, yes. i own it so So, I mean, I own a business. I own more than one business or i have LLCs with them, but I also work for a company. now i i I can talk a little bit about the company I work for, but I can't talk a lot about it.
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um But i do yeah I do work for for a company. but And this is a great thing, too, to kind of segue also, is for the people watching, like I've sort of entered into a space that, number one, is kind of unknown and new, but also gives a new avenue to a plumber that is licensed, specifically like has a master's license, you know but doesn't necessarily want to be a business owner, but doesn't also want to have to go work for your traditional service plumbing company to hold the master's license or to be sort of like a you know senior advisor type deal or service manager. And so I'm sort of like in sort of this weird space that's like tech and security for water.
00:07:48
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But the company that I work for, we we we work with insurance. So like water damage, you know, or they want implemented like smart home leak detection in a person's home. Like that's what I do.
00:07:59
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That's why like almost every video I have has to do with some sort of smart home leak detection. Yeah, with your Flow Pro or whatever it is. do it Yeah, yeah. yeah the me one yeah they So it's funny. I love it. Everyone calls it a flow ah a flow mo moen.
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But the thing is, though, is that is that Moen is trying to move away from that name. So they just call it the Moen valve now. They don't even call it the flow. But it's so it's so funny to me that everyone still says it. I actually know a lot of history. like It's so funny. I know a lot of history about that valve specifically, but I don't know if I can like talk about it.
00:08:31
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But ah it's just funny to me that that they want to move away from that name because I kind of know why they wanted to move away from that name. And so, but anyway, um but yeah, so we do things like that and that's sort of like a new space. And so it's cool because I've learned a lot too from this kind of dynamic background with this new type of company.
00:08:49
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I've learned a lot that actually tradesmen, you know licensed tradesmen and plumbers can actually go into different avenues rather than either work for a company or end up working for yourself.
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So right it's kind of interesting to see that. Well, I mean, basically it's corporate is what it is. and And you have a whole area that really is in like kind of an undertapped market, but also may still be kind of an untapped market too, where you have individuals that work work with insurance or you work in tech with like server rooms or you work with manufacturers and stuff and like real world scenarios. Like there, i i can't remember his name. remember if it's Bob or Mike.
00:09:29
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But um it's he's you'll you'll see him on Reem's videos sometimes. And and he's just going to explain something. Yeah, with their dream team or whatever. But anyway, he is a master plumber himself. And and he's worked there for Reem for quite a long time. And so i I myself, I didn't realize that. Like I didn't realize that manufacturers actually hired you know plumbers in the world and stuff. But it's even like Moen and Delta and things like that. So it's interesting.
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It's different. I do. i I mean, and that's sort of where i agree. I think that's... the advantage that you have of actually getting your ticket and putting some... Yeah, Mike. He thinks that dad just answered me. Mike, yeah, he's awesome. Like, he's awesome. I mean, he... he and And he's just a master plumber that just fell into, um um you know, the manufacturer's side and has just been there for for, you know, for a good while.
Plumbing Careers with Manufacturers
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So... yeah Keep going. I'm sorry. I just wanted to point that out that I saw. No, In case Mike's listening. Mike Henry. There we go. Yeah. ah You're right. Like, I think that's... I...
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i've viable option for people that actually have put in the miles um and have a couple of whatever you want to call it, bruises or scars or um experience to help those manufacturers actually um ah provide a product that that is reasonable and can troubleshoot it and and and work through work there through the problems that you as an installer or me as a you know ah contractor that's buying the product and trying to put it in.
00:11:04
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can help us sort of figure that stuff out. As you know, my contention with most of that stuff is most of the guys that we see behind the booth at the trade shows are, you know, second year college students that are looking for a a summer job or whatever the case may be, right?
00:11:24
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Like the people that I so that i see that work at at at Milwaukee or the wall every time they have the red line show or whatever they help pipeline show or whatever it's called.
00:11:35
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I'm like, you know, they have an ad. I got some 22 year old girl up there that's got her fingernails done showing us how to clean the drain. i'm like, bro,
00:11:46
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You can't get like a real, like there's lots of us out there. You can't get somebody to. See, I don't go to the trade shows. I don't go to the trade shows. I don't really know. But I mean, I've seen kind of the videos and stuff. But I mean, you have to understand that I guess. You've seen the videos.
00:12:03
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Yeah, but I mean, my thing is that from my, at least from my perspective, I'm understanding that that's that's a manufacturer utilizing their marketing budget to to, you know, focus that for their product with the inevitable, you know,
00:12:19
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But it is what it is, you know, and and i and I understand, like i and I get it. like You're like, hey, like we have guys that could do this that that are real working guys. And and that's what i'm saying is that, and what I was trying to say with that too is that a lot of these manufacturers now, and and especially like when you look at other manufacturers from excuse me from other countries,
00:12:37
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like they they are bringing technology here. You know, like we're the last in line for tankless. You know, well, you're Canada, so you're probably, so America is last in line for tankless. Like everyone else around the world uses some sort of tankless or InstaHot instead of your traditional just 50 gallon or 40 gallon reservoir tank, you know, gas or electric.
00:12:56
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So we're seeing that, but then we're also seeing like smart hole leak detection. And then we're seeing these, all these like smart devices. Like for instance, the Moen, like going back to that as an example, the app that they utilize, they have two, they have the Flow by Mo app, which is the older app, which they say don't, they don't recommend to use, but you can use it.
00:13:13
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But the new one is the Moen like smart water network. And that is a hub for all of your Moen smart devices. So you start to see this
Industry Critique & Frustrations
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segue of, you know, we're going to start adding new smart devices, which,
00:13:27
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That's my question. how many what I only know of the one. mean, they have the, oh yeah. Well Kohler has, I think Kohler a Delta has like a smart shower. That's like a whole system. I've seen i've seen two of those that like. oh yeah. yeah has blue key wow everything Yeah. shower. Yeah. Yeah. Bluetooth, but it has the panel. You can control it with your phone, you know, get it set up and stuff.
00:13:48
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So, but, you know, it's gone with something with that too. Is that their plan? Well, I think that that ultimately, yes. Like they're you're going to see like smart faucets, which, you know, would be what it is. Smart showers, maybe smart for tub fillers. And, you know, and I know why you're laughing because, you know, it's just going to a nightmare. Like something's going to happen. you know You're going to have to show up with your lap you're going to have to plug your phone into your shower head to be able to diagnose what the hell's going on.
00:14:12
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Yeah. Or it's going to like but turn on and not shut off and then like f flood your, your tub, you know, flood it out or something's going to happen, you know? So, yeah I mean, we, I've seen it, these, you know, these smart devices shut the water off automatically and then they don't turn on for the customer or, you know, the internet won't work correctly. So, uh, what is this we're doing? Oh, we already we already got, we got people already chirping on i asking, and asking the real questions, I guess. Yeah.
00:14:42
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uh, Israel's the devil. I'm sorry. I'll say it right now. I don't, ah but you can take that. That's from im a Canadian. I don't know how the States feels about it. Uh, clearly your government's in league with those guys, but ah there's a lot going on with the, uh,
00:15:00
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with the insanity of the world right now. I love the fact that like, it goes from like but smart home devices to, so what the fuck is up with America? like can we just get an honest answer from somebody please? And my answer is i have no fucking idea. Like I, I don't, I don't get it. I don't, I don't, uh,
00:15:22
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Don't subscribe to it. And I'm in agreeance with the majority of the world with what should be going on next. That just isn't. And it's were were But hey, you know a doubt the Dow is up 50,000 points right now. 50,000 right now.
00:15:39
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right now So here's a question a legit question. That doesn't mean anything to me because I'm in Canada. Like, do you have anything to me because I'm a plumber? i don't i I know. But I said that out loud. I said to myself, what does that mean?
00:15:55
Speaker
You have stocks in the in the Dow? They're a big guy. But you're like, oh, yeah, no, don't worry. My my portfolio has never been higher. Like, that's just such an elitist.
00:16:07
Speaker
I don't even know what to say. like deflection of the shit that's going on that's that's what I meant is that you know when I was a young kid i I wanted to be a magician and the first thing they teach you at magic camp is deflection you know yeah that you say you know distraction career and something goes over here and then the coin disappears and you're like ha hey you know that's that's out fifty that's the dow's at man that's that's that's what's important
00:16:40
Speaker
What did we misunderstand here? Signed bombs, signed to Palestine. oh Misunderstood. guess they want our opinion on Israel and Palestine. So, I mean, don't... It's bad. Like, I mean, what do you want me to say here? Do you want me to pick a side? No, it's bad. It's just the whole thing is bad. Like, everything is bad right now. Like, I don't understand, like, what we have to say to be like, it's all on fire and we don't have enough extinguishers. So we're just letting it burn, I guess.
00:17:09
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Yeah. No, no. When they came out with the, what are they what are they calling it? What are they calling the new, is it the new Gaza? Is that what they're calling it? What, Israel? I they're calling it. I don't. No, no. they're bacon They're going to make it like Club Gaza.
00:17:25
Speaker
They're going to turn it into Las Vegas. Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, you know, I mean, this guy, he gets on the internet and he does some AI video where it's a jet flying in and it's like, well, Gaza, and then he poops on somebody. Like, it's just, yay. Like, we're just. The Monkees one was good.
00:17:44
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Anyway, I'm sure everybody knows what I'm talking about with that one. Yeah, yeah. i don't I don't get it. Look, man, I don't. And there's a lot of us that were just like, listen, here's my whole thing. I don't- i bun my pa at off if if we're if we're if we're trying to If we're trying to like just go ahead and just hash it out politically and everything else, like I mean, here's the
Political Neutrality & Industry Challenges
00:18:06
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thing, guys. like And y'all are just going at it hardcore for a minute, too. like like It's all bad. like it's not like it's not It's not good. It's all bad. There's not one thing or another that says, hey, like fuck yeah, let's let's go to that side. And if that's how you feel, that's great, but um um I don't subscribe to it. and then
00:18:26
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on everything else here in America, same thing. Like I don't subscribe to the right, I don't subscribe to the left. It's the same thing on both sides. It's just different entities saying different words, but ends up the same way.
00:18:37
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And then we have this whole Epstein thing going on that is the most asinine and most mind boggling thing that is to most of anyone that has the same thought in their head of why is everyone else around the world doing what they're doing next you know, arresting, prosecuting these. yeah And America's just like, and we're just like, well, but you know, we're going to wait and see if we did that, the whole system would collapse. My answer to that is that if someone told me, well, if I do the spot repair on the main sewer, the whole sewer is going collapse. I'm like, fucking dig this thing out and let's replace it.
00:19:15
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Like it's, it's, it's over it. It's going to create some carnage and it's going to cost a lot of money, but that's what needs to happen. Anyway, thanks, Max. Fucking pulling us down the road.
00:19:26
Speaker
I guess i don't i don't know what's going on in the chat right now. Max is trying to light this thing on fire. don't understand. What if you gave him a message?
00:19:39
Speaker
So that begs a question. almost a off like If you talk about Epstein, you're anti-Semitic. Okay.
00:19:47
Speaker
Whatever. Anyway. should we talk should we talk about what brought us or Should we talk about what brought us together? What was that? Yeah.
00:19:58
Speaker
Well, and I mean, here's the thing. Is that, i you know you know we you know, we had sort of our our feud. And and just to make to make it very clear here, you know, i you know the whole don't press on CPVC.
00:20:15
Speaker
Realistically, you know, ah if you're in a bind at 4 in the morning, you're in ah you're in a fucking bind. You know, but there was a way to go about it that it would have been so much better. And instead you just like, like, nah, I'm just going to do scorched earth on this one.
00:20:31
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score and and so well that's You're right. I, you know, on some level and we all do it. Anybody that calls out, calls me out. I'm like, we all try and find of the edge.
00:20:43
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you know what I mean? Like, like you're like mil Milwaukee sucks. And yet every tool you have, is Milwaukee. I'm like, okay, that's his, you know, whatever part of the deal. it's So I'm like, no, yeah. I'm like, no, i man. Like you can, like, we absolutely did it. It was two o'clock in the morning. Fuck you. It worked. And we changed and we changed it two days later. Exactly. Exactly. Boom, boom. See, and it's like, and scene, but instead were like, but then you were like, we pressed on this.
00:21:11
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And, um, on top of that, don't say bad thing about it, and then I'm going to after Evan, I'm going to get Evan fired, and I'm going to go... Sorry. It just became this kind of snowball effect. And I was like, well, I might as well just throw a little flame on the fire on this one and see what happens. Let's see where this lands. But all in it was fun. My favorite part of it all is, and I'm going to say it the right way, Viega proved my point.
00:21:43
Speaker
When they said, oh, it pops off at 700 pounds. I'm like, bro! I will say this. They did kind of eat that one. They did kind of eat that one. I was like, why are you doing that? like Why did you show the games? I thought it was fake.
00:21:57
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I had to watch it like 10 times. I'm like, they literally proved my point. 700 pounds, it pops off. yeah ah so But that's the beauty of this whole thing, truly. Truly.
00:22:10
Speaker
there are There are like three people i on here that I truly dislike. But everybody else, it's as you well know, i you know you can i don't think there was anything behind the scenes that was unsavory. Nobody was like, no, fuck you, you're a dick. It was like, listen, man, like it was a little... don't know, Google, I kind of went hard on you.
00:22:31
Speaker
Who did? Pool Boy. That the ball do that dude. that dude than Have you seen him since? I hope he's okay. um i So I have had dealings with him since like the kind of the beginning um due to, I guess, he was on, you know, he he was, he I guess he was here kind of like when you were here. Because I think I started I think 2018 or 2019. Yeah, And then he, I think, was kind of on a little before. And he kind of kind of got a quick hike because he also had... um
00:23:06
Speaker
I think he was kind of the first ones doing videos, like, you know, doing the cleaning the pools and stuff. So, you know, but, but yeah, I, you know, I've heard stuff, you know, I've, I've talked with people who've had direct interactions with them and they've kind said the same thing and I've kind of had it, he kind of jumped at my comments one time and kind of, kind of went nutso and I was like, whoa, I was like, what is this?
Social Media's Impact on Reality
00:23:29
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You know, I was like, wow. Like, I didn't think people get that serious, you know?
00:23:34
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um no you know That's one of the ones I'm just like, all right. i just man he that yeah yeah That one was a funny one. I love that one. because You were just like, who is this guy? I've never heard of him.
00:23:47
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and that's I do love it. and Even with you. i mean you know how many There's tens of thousands of accounts. and so When somebody new jumps on and you know has something good or bad to say or a critique, you're like, okay, let's go.
00:24:01
Speaker
That's what this whole medium is for, I think. Right. Is the exchange of ideas and what's the best way, the methodologies. And then, you know, leave it for the masses, whoever they are, to decide for themselves and what the best way to get things done is. And then that guy, like you say, shows up and he's kind of come to my house and he's kind he said burn he's going to burn me down. I'm like, OK, bro. Well, here's the address.
00:24:29
Speaker
Come on up and we'll have a fucking good time. It's wild. Well, and it's wild in general. And you know it's funny because you know I took like social media pretty serious in the early days and stuff. I'd get really upset if someone said something or someone started picking on the comments. I'd be like, nah, I'm just going to go ahead and block this guy. you know But it's funny because you know like I've said it kind of before and people kind of know, but you know Boston Plumbing Monster says it best. It's like social media isn't real life. and when You kind of take that in there. It's like, for instance, like I guess something happened in in the in the chat or something. The guys kind of went crazy and started talking all nonsense and and everything. and and like My whole thing is that like is it worth it? like like Is it really worth it? like like It's not. It's not. And it's gotten to a point where it's like,
00:25:14
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Like when I start hearing people not just want to have a regular conversation, like I'm just gone. Like I'm just like, dude, like I just want to hear it because it's in your face all the time. Yeah. You know, I turn the TV on Same thing. Turn on anything, you know, on the Internet. Same thing.
00:25:30
Speaker
No, if it starts like the reason, the whole reason I'm here is because it's just it's a vent for me. I'm having a good time. Releases some stress. The second it starts to become stressful or I'm losing sleep over it. I'm like, all right, man.
00:25:43
Speaker
Like, I got to take like three or four days off and just sort of ria go back to the real world and, you know, do some real plumbing and and sort of recenter myself.
00:25:55
Speaker
And then everything's cool again is is how it works. And it doesn't, like you say, it doesn't take much when meatballs jump on here to sort of raise your blood pressure a bit. And then you're like, holy shit.
00:26:07
Speaker
yes just it it doesn't it it it It doesn't. I'm not high. I'm fucking tired. I have four kids. I've been up since six in the morning. How old's your oldest? Thirteen, and she's in this she's standing right over here. It's her little friend. You're like your socks, bro.
00:26:24
Speaker
yeah Yeah. i just you know It is what it is. I'm five. My youngest is 19, and so I'm ah i'm like completely on the other side of it.
00:26:35
Speaker
oh Oh, no, my oldest is 18. She just doesn't live here. She's with her mom. so Because I have one from her previous, and then I have four. The two, that the 13 and 11, they're step, but i they don't their dad's he's not even in the picture.
00:26:51
Speaker
Yeah, and then I have two with with my wife. Yeah. So there you go. You're like the Brady Bunch almost. Yeah. Yeah, we are. We we are the Brady Bunch and it's it's never a dull moment, as you probably know. So, you know. It's never dull. In fact, that this has been this has been and this has been the calmest year of my entire life ah because all my kids are out of the house.
00:27:13
Speaker
I'm like, you know what? I can do what I want. I can put my – when I put my keys down on the kitchen counter and they come back 24 later, My keys are on the kitchen counter exactly where I left them.
00:27:24
Speaker
It's fabulous. That's awesome. I literally can't do half of that. No, you can't. I know you can't. Nope. Nope. Oh. oh yeah Your Leaky Plumber guy, just is it Leaky Texas? He just jumped on here.
00:27:40
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Yeah, Leaky Texas USA. And he's the one that like originally what we were talking about before the chat decided to force us into this spiral and then we kind of pulled ourselves back out. um He's the one I'm talking about that really has been talking about the sales of of it. and it's And it is and it's wild. Like it's one of those things like, you know, like they do this one size fit all sales training with you.
00:28:02
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You, you know, go out into the field. They do a whole script with you. Like they do it like they record you, they make you watch yourself, you know they like give you tips on what you can do better and stuff. But the thing is, is that when you really break it down, what it really is, is they're they're basically training you to sale to to sell financing.
00:28:20
Speaker
Because that's what they want. They want you to get- That's the are, right? Yeah. And that's really what they want. They don't want you to pay the entire price. But apparently, and if there's anyone in here that knows about it or can correct me, I believe the story is is that there's a plumbing company in Ohio that does like over a million dollars a month consistently.
00:28:42
Speaker
And that's where this all started from. and And kind of that's where like they kind of give you the background of it. And so you you have this kind of in your mind that, oh, I want to help my company sell a ah million dollars, you know, because of my commission rates.
00:28:58
Speaker
but well that's what it is like that it it has not hit uh quite as hard up here but you know a decade ago we had a finance company literally when i had you know my 18 guys and all the rest of that crap came to me and said listen bob i will take your you know two million dollars a year And I'm going to turn that into 2.6 and you're not going to have to sell an extra thing because we're going to finance everybody.
00:29:29
Speaker
And you're going ups, you know, if they can't afford your $10,000 furnace, we'll get them off, you know, $89 a month for the next, you know, till they die.
00:29:39
Speaker
And we'll give you a cut of that. And we'll look after the whole thing for it. No problem at all. And I'm like, are you insane? Like the, I'm trying to, you know, i and I've said it here before. I'm not here to rape and pillage. I'm here to provide for my family.
00:29:55
Speaker
I wouldn't want the same person to come in and do it to me if I was, you know, sort of cut between a rock and a hard place and I got to pay for my fucking furnace for the next 12 and a half years. And then because of the way things are made these days, you need a new one.
00:30:12
Speaker
right Well, they lease it to you now. The new thing is they lease it. So you don't even own it. So they lease it to you. So when you sell your home, you have to get either you have to pay off the the tab or you have to get the new owners to sign the
Health Insurance Costs: US vs Canada
00:30:24
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lease.
00:30:24
Speaker
Yeah. And we do what it does, it it provides, you know, what it does is it provides service and a lifetime warranty, basically, is what they're they're trying to sell you. You pay this little flat rate of $50 a month or $100 a month.
00:30:38
Speaker
Anything goes wrong with this thing. We take care of it, blah, blah, blah. But there's always an asterisk by it. The asterisk is original owner. Right. Or it's, it's the asterisk is you have to do your buy yearly checks yeah and you can't skip it. And it has to be this and it has to be that. And then if this, or if you're running this more haphazardly, if there's any vaping or smoking, if you really read the fine print, you'll find that they entrap you.
00:31:04
Speaker
Yeah. It's like, it's, I mean, it's, you know, ah we we can open it up another rabbit hole. It's health insurance, right? You pay your health insurance for... but but You pay your $250 month. You're like, I'm covered.
00:31:17
Speaker
And I'm like, oh, I have lung cancer. Like, oh, you're a plumber? Have you been exposed to asbestos? Probably. Okay, well, you're out. How much do you pay? $250 a month?
00:31:29
Speaker
that's That's a cute number. I wish I paid that number. Listen, there you know there aren't very many advantages to being Canadian. But, I mean, I have my my health insurance. or my life insurance, my disability, and my critical illness, which i I'm assuming everybody knows what those three differences If I die, there's a payout. If I get a leg cut off, it's a payout. And if I get one of the five most common diseases, whatever those are, ah then I get a payout.
00:32:00
Speaker
and And so that cost me about, and it's to make everybody mad, it cost me about, you know, eight grand a year. And so um whatever that number is, it's it's less than ah it's less than a grand.
00:32:16
Speaker
What's the number? it's I don't know. that's I wish I could say that. I don't. i I pay per pay period because I get paid twice a year. mean, twice, not twice a year. Twice a year? Yeah, no, twice a month. I wish twice a year. um i don't know. We might blow through it pretty quick. twice Twice a month. I get paid two times a month. I pay $1,200.
00:32:38
Speaker
And that is also my company paying half for myself, my wife, and my four children. So well i mean that that's that's a that's i'm paying week. Yeah,
00:32:51
Speaker
telephone it every two weeks twelve hundred every two weeks yeah mine six basically And that, I mean, and and to be perfectly honest, mine is more expensive than it ever has been because I crossed the 55. I turned 56 this year. And so they're like, okay, well now you're in the next demographic until you hit whatever the next one is, 65, think.
00:33:16
Speaker
right when it when it jacks up again, right? Because you're at at a bigger risk. so Yeah. Well, I have... my My wife's a nurse and my health insurance is better... Yeah, my yeah my my wife's nurse and so and so she works at the hospital and my health insurance is better than the one that they offer.
00:33:36
Speaker
Really? so Yeah. So ours is a better plan. And that... And so I know you didn't want to say too much about your company. Like, are you... a are Is there a bunch of you guys there are you like sort of their tech guy?
00:33:51
Speaker
So the way that our company works is that we have- Is it based out of Georgia or is it like a multi- Well, yes and no. So the vice president of our company lives here in Atlanta and Georgia and then our CEO lives in California. And then I believe we cover 20 25 states within- Gotcha.
00:34:09
Speaker
um But we're all W-2s, you know, and and and yeah, and I guess I would say tech or security would be probably the field that we're in. We're a plumbing company within. Like, I still offer all my plumbing services. It's just that we do different work, you know, do water assessments. And like I said, smart home leak detection installs. um We sometimes have to look at um water damage from homes.
00:34:34
Speaker
to kind of give a clarification to insurance about what happened or what could have happened if they kind of have some unknowns. um So it's kind of cool. You know, it's it's it's very, very different. um And so are you direct, you must be directly tied to the insurance companies then?
00:34:49
Speaker
Well, partnered. So we're our own entity. Yeah. Yeah. We're our own company in itself. So, so yeah. So in a way we are. So, but it's not bad. You know, it's a good, it's a good job, good career. um You know, companies just, you know, it's, it's different. I'll tell you that much. It's, it's definitely different.
00:35:09
Speaker
And so is that something that you see, like, are they expanding or um like how many you're, if you're in Georgia, i know everybody's sort of skittish to tell you, like how many people would you say you service in your sort of service area?
00:35:26
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Um, our, the joke is, uh, when customers ask us, what's your service area? We say state line to state line. So if I have to go to Savannah to go look at a job, then I have to go to Savannah.
00:35:40
Speaker
I have to go up to North Georgia, like let's say Blairsville, then I have to go to Blairsville. But most of our work is within the realm of Atlanta, surrounding Atlanta. You know, I've been to places down south, you know, that are more prominent, um you know, in places up north, but all over.
00:35:58
Speaker
And are you the are you the plumber for Georgia? Yeah. Well, I'm 12 million people. Yep. There is. There's a lot. There's a lot.
Advanced Leak Detection Technologies
00:36:09
Speaker
And you so you are servicing 12 million people.
00:36:12
Speaker
Well, I mean, I'm not servicing, but i mean i i I mean, yeah, yeah. But yeah, no, in essence, but that's also because of the work that we do. Have you used Watts Nexus system? No, uh, the Nexus system.
00:36:24
Speaker
I don't know what the Nexus system is. I've used the Watts leak defense system. If that's what you're talking about Hill country.
00:36:32
Speaker
So this thing yeah, I don't know what the Nexus system is, but concealed carry when in Atlanta, i Georgia is a constitutional carry, I believe now. Ain't got a concealed carry. No mo.
00:36:50
Speaker
Oh, so you can carry it? No problem. you don't need the rest I mean, everyone else down there does, so why not? You know? Listen, man, I'm in Canada. If even say the word gun, I'm going to end up in jail. What else do they call it? I don't know what else they call it. Okay.
00:37:06
Speaker
what is it what are they what else do they call it i don't i don't know what else they call it so Yeah, no, it's pretty bad. It connects to it, zip ties. know what you're talking about. um You're talking about the one that just connects over the top. No, I have not. We don't offer that or the insurance that we're partnered with, they don't like that one. They like the one, the leak defense system.
00:37:30
Speaker
So... That system's pretty cool. That's a parameter-based system that Watts developed. um They hold their warranty behind it. It has a control panel. um You don't have to have it connected to Wi-Fi, so that's kind of a selling point for the older community.
00:37:44
Speaker
um But it does connect to Wi-Fi, and you do get like a secondary app ah for the device. But kind of the sell on that is that its you know it does not need Wi-Fi to operate. So...
00:37:55
Speaker
um What is that? Just little old sensors that go around the basement type of thing? Do you install the device, the valve on the main water service, put a check valve in, make sure there's an expansion tank, pressure's over 80, throw a PRV in?
00:38:12
Speaker
um You put that in in system so you get most of the main water services you can. And then they do offer like wireless sensors. um If the customer has like water filtration or softener, you can put a split system on so you can put the sensor on one side and the valve on the other.
00:38:27
Speaker
So it'll still catch leaks. And the software system is like doing a backwash cycle or the filtration is, um then it won't ah set off the ah um alarm system on it. So yeah.
00:38:39
Speaker
It's a cool system. It's a big system. They can go up to, like I think they said 12 inches on water lines. I was like, what? i was like, where the hell are 12-inch water lines? so we we've had We haven't done any of them, and it hasn't sort of... I do find that ah the the States are sort of the testing ground. like Europe obviously has all their shit figured out.
00:38:59
Speaker
Then it comes over to the States, and then you guys fuck it up, and then find out what's we'll find out what's good and what's bad, and then we get sort of the, oh, this actually works, send it to Canada. Yep. Yep.
00:39:10
Speaker
And so we've had a bunch of our sort of our hotel groups that have those 12 inch water mains. Yeah. Sort of be interested in that stuff. We have yet to sort of engage any of that in in a meaningful way but it's coming for sure you well you should you go on the watch website they have a whole like they have a whole like certification process you know it's pretty cool check it out um you know it's it's it's something definitely to it's because that's the thing i'll i'll tell everyone you know while the rest chat talks about misgendering what are you guys doing misgendering and communism apparently so It's like we're having two different podcasts at once. so We're having a conversation. It's just like, what's These guys are just basically like singling out which one is the racist and which one aren't. like you know It's like, let's figure it out. See which one of us should hate the other one. I'm the racist. I'm the racist. Whatever. It's like, guys, here we go. Do bidets prevent skid marks on... nop they're gonna No, No, they don't.
00:40:13
Speaker
Anyway, um but yeah, so that's that's a cool system to have. so and do you also Okay, so you have you done all three? Have you worked all by yourself at one time? Like you're just like your own that like your own dude?
00:40:30
Speaker
I'm plumb dangerous and we whatever. And then you work for the big you've worked for the big guys. You've taken the next star, cult, porn, sell it all, finance it all.
00:40:41
Speaker
Just the full Monty. Yeah. And now you're into sort of the hybrid of And I was like a top seller too at one point too. Like I was real bad. What was your what was your best year?
00:40:59
Speaker
So I never stayed long with these companies. That was the other thing because they offer bonuses. Oh, so you took your bonus bailed? Yeah, I was that guy. but
00:41:14
Speaker
um She's not plumber page anymore, Max. She's all trades page, so she's at an electrician's conference right now. She's busy.
00:41:25
Speaker
Yeah. Okay, so okay so what was your longest stay? Less than a year? Usually, i would stay anywhere from six to eight months. Then I'd quit, and then I'd usually try to go back around like the next year because sometimes they'd give me another bonus.
00:41:42
Speaker
And I'd usually stay on four or five months and then and piss off and go work for someone else. I mean, I stayed, i mean, I got fired from one place, you know, but the reason why got fired was because they wanted me to run a call on a holiday.
00:41:57
Speaker
And I was like, no, like it was New Year's Day. I was eating breakfast with my family and they were like, am one of the owners, one of the brothers. I i worked for one, you know, you hear you hear the joke of like, don't ever work for a red flag is don't ever work for a plumbing company. That's and sons.
00:42:10
Speaker
I worked for a company that was in and sons. And it's me and my son. So don't come work for me. It'll be bad. Well, I mean, I'm just, these guys, well, here's this guy would like call you and he'd like, Hey, you got to go run a call. And I was like, nah, like it's a holiday. Like I have the day off. And he's like, i don't care it's day off or not. My buddy's, you know, ah ah ah what is his sewer ejector pump's backed up. I need to go out there and unclog it. And I was like, dude, like I'm eating breakfast with my family and it's a holiday. Our office is shut down. And he goes, I don't give a fuck.
00:42:40
Speaker
And I was just like, oh, here we go. like you take my truck to my shop. They fired me because of it and then claimed that I quit. And i was just like, whatever. so yeah. Yeah.
00:42:53
Speaker
Yeah, well, it's it's ah it's a wild world. One of the best things and worst things about the trade is it's still a bit of the Wild West.
Labor Laws & Work Ethics
00:43:00
Speaker
Oh, yeah you yeah. Where you run across all sorts of characters.
00:43:04
Speaker
Oh, well, you just usually run across – you get the stereotypical like toxic business owner. The guy's never in the field or when he is, he's in board shorts and flip-flops, clacking around, you know telling everybody good job in his brand-new Ford truck. And that's and yeah that's that's it you know And then and then you know just runs you Dude, i used to work hours a week. like It was just If you were on call for this and son's company, like it was it was a nightmare. I worked one time from like 12 in the morning, you know, got home at like four, went to sleep, got up at eight, went back, worked again till 12 in the morning, went home, got called out at three in the morning. Like it was by Friday, i had cussed the owner out and he was like, go home and get some sleep. And then at 12 in the afternoon, they called me and said, hey, you're going to come in. And I was like, no, I'm exhausted.
00:43:57
Speaker
and So do they, and do they, I mean, do they pay you for all that time? Do they bonus you out on all that stuff? or I mean, you get time and a half, but here's the thing also, and this is what I've learned. And and like I said, I, you know, hypothetically, like how many of y'all, especially the ones that are trying to be smarty, smart pants in here talking all politically, how many of y'all can say that, you know, your labor law?
00:44:21
Speaker
Cause I'll be honest with you. I'm gonna tell you right now, you don't. Yeah. Yeah. Cause I didn't. Yeah. And so hypothetically I might've been involved in a, you know, lawsuit that involved, you know, uh, labor law.
00:44:35
Speaker
Yeah. No, until you, and it's why in it and you have to know it right. Then it's like, you don't know what your rights are and what your, what your business has to provide or vice versa. Right. Right. Right. it gets right. And it's,
00:44:53
Speaker
It's province by province here, so it's got to be state by state down there. no we we have No, we have federal labor labor rights that that federally, if you if you violate, like you get sued by you know federal government. You go to their courts, not the state. yeah so You have like some labor laws that are like yes state to state. like For instance, like in Georgia, um it's you cannot stop the clock while someone's driving. so If you clock in And your guy, you know, if if if you show up shop, you clock in, you get in your work truck, you drive your first job and they don't pay you from your shop time till the time you got to your first call.
00:45:32
Speaker
That's illegal. Now, what they can do is they can drop that time down to minimum wage. But it's such an accounting nightmare. No one does. But there are companies that will stop the clock and start the clock, you know, their drive time. And that's illegal in Georgia.
00:45:45
Speaker
But federally, like, for instance, you can't withhold pay from your employee from your employee for anything. You have to pay them what they work their hours.
00:45:56
Speaker
And so federal law, if you if you break that law, then, you know, it's bad. And so, and do you guys have minimums? Or like if you if your first job is 15 minutes away, you get paid for 15 minutes or what?
00:46:09
Speaker
It does not matter. Once you clock in, like let's say you dispatch from home, okay? So your first job from driving from your house to your first job, you correct. You will not get paid for that, okay? Because that's like driving to the shop. But let's say I went from my house to the gas station and then went to the job.
00:46:26
Speaker
From the time I left the gas station to the time I went to that first job, I'm now getting paid. that's That's the law in Georgia. Yeah. yeah So – Canada is a bit different. we have Ours is three and a half hours.
00:46:42
Speaker
so i If I call, like if I send one of my boys out to, like if it's a Monday, it doesn't matter, day, night, or whatever. If I send them, it takes them 15 minutes to do a job, and then I send them home for the day, i got to pay them three and a half hours.
00:46:56
Speaker
Oh, you have to pay him labor for three and a half hours. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's not how it is in the United States. If I, if you come into my shop and I, and I send you to a job and it took you 15 minutes and I have no more work for you, then you just go home and I just pay you for that 15 minutes. That's it. That's all you got boss. That's it. That's all she wrote. Welcome to capitalism. Trickle down economics. Welcome to communism up here. We got to pay and we fight. We have it.
00:47:23
Speaker
Like it's, It doesn't happen all that often, but easily a dozen times a year some customer are like, bro, you were here for an hour. I'm like, dude, I got to pay him three and a half hours. that's no bad Why do you think Walmart hires a bunch of part-time employees New Vegas? You don't have to pay your health injur insurance to finally work you 30 hours.
00:47:41
Speaker
yeah cut you off and then... that this For those guys, the savings are in the billions, I'm sure. Well, hold on. Buddy said not in Massachusetts. So so let me rephrase that. Georgia is a is a what they call. So you have right to work and you have ready to work and you have unionized states. Right.
00:47:59
Speaker
So Georgia is what they call a ready to work state, meaning that you can be union or you can just not you know just work. so It might be different like in Massachusetts because they actually have a lot. Their plumbing code is the strictest plumbing code out of all the plumbing codes in the United States.
00:48:15
Speaker
FYI. Massachusetts is? yeah Yeah. They have their own they have their own standard. so so like UPC and national standard and IPC. I'm under IPC. like there Our standards are a little bit lighter than but Massachusetts does not.
00:48:33
Speaker
But yeah, they that might be different. If it's a unionized state, there might be minimums for them, but for a right to work state or ready to work state, nah. You come in, I work you for 30 minutes, You got 30 minutes to pay. Yeah, yeah.
00:48:46
Speaker
It's worse if like you're a server because you rely on your tips and stuff so much. I've heard that. If it's a slow day, yeah, and you get cut early, like, oh, dude, that's just like a kick in the dick. You made no fucking money and you were there for like two hours just rolling up fucking forks and knives and a paper towel making $2.13 an hour. my i don't even know my life I don't even know how that works. I've heard that story. like We've gone...
00:49:14
Speaker
you know You go on a holiday down to the States, they're like, please tip your server, we live on it. I'm like, what are you talking about? yeah You're making 22 bucks an hour. like Nope, I'm making like $1.50 an hour.
00:49:26
Speaker
$2.13. They make enough to cover the taxes on their 40 hours. That's what that is. yeah yes yeah It's funny as hell, man. That's why like if you if you're there for like an hour or two, you're just like you're like, I hate my life and everything.
00:49:43
Speaker
but but And so deep if you don't have to pay that guy to go home either down there. What do you mean pay him to go home? I paid him. He showed up. I paid – I'm going to give him the money that he showed up. He's done. Once he's clocked out, that's not my problem.
00:49:57
Speaker
that That's how the United States works when it comes to employment. Once that clock is out, like if you – like that's not my problem. Like really professionally. Yeah. Yeah.
00:50:09
Speaker
That's insanity. Now, if I wanted to be a nice boss and I'm like, dude, got to let you go home early, but listen, I'll give you four hours of pay or, hey, go clean up the shop a little bit. I'll give you a half day's pay and stuff. you know thats but that's That's a conscious thing. And I will be honest with
Market Challenges for Plumbers
00:50:23
Speaker
you. i can't speak for the rest of the United States, but Georgia, like that conscience is gone once you get the title of master plumber and business owner. yeah They're like, who who can I not take to dinner and just fuck?
00:50:38
Speaker
into trades, specifically plumbing. oh you're you can do a water heater in an hour and a half? Let me pay you $15 an hour and tell you I'll pay you a 10% commission and then withhold everything.
00:50:53
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, yes yeah, yeah. So that's, I mean, we can get into that. Like that's where this private equity shit is going, right? Like those guys yeah are gonna buy everybody and say, we now own it all. And here's the, you know, they,
00:51:08
Speaker
still lobby the government to say this is what we're going to pay these guys and then you're fucked and there's nowhere else to work no because you have the union and the union will stomp that out pretty quick so you have to remember that unionized states here in the united states sorry if you hear like a car driving it's because my i I live next to a busy road, and I have street racers at night. I'm on my backcourt. So you have you in United States. It's minus 30 out there right now.
00:51:36
Speaker
Minus 30. It's like 72 degrees in Georgia. But like next week, it's going to be like 10. So it's you know that's Georgia. If you live in Georgia or you or you've been to Georgia for a while, like you understand that we have sometimes all four seasons in one day.
00:51:52
Speaker
Yeah. So but so we that should would stop that. Now. Now, are they getting away with it? Yes. I can tell you the name of a company that is owned by a Canadian municipal, you know, a retirement fund.
00:52:08
Speaker
That is a big hitter in here, but I'm not going to. um And, and it's just, it, it, it's showing, but here's the thing though, with victories come failures. So, you know, you have companies that they will, you know, these companies will sell them, you know, and they can fluff the numbers. And then once the company buys it, that, you know, the techs leave, you know, or, or it's a good company, but the techs don't, and, you know and that's what a lot of people don't understand. and this is something that like, I'm really trying to pioneer and, and and trying to kind of root for, for 2026 that, it,
00:52:41
Speaker
you know it it people don't know how to do what we do. And even more so, it's like, cool, you watch the YouTube video and you learn how to change a flapper and fill valve, but plumbing is more than that.
00:52:51
Speaker
You know what I mean? It's just not... It is way more than that. And it's funny to me that we have these people that say all day long, well, I can do this and I make a handyman page. yeah Some of them are good because they're just mechanically inclined and they should just be in the trades in general. Or they're already in the trade, so it's ah it's an easy transfer of of skill set. you know But these like customers that I deal with, like...
00:53:13
Speaker
They don't know how to do any of this stuff. And it's just funny to me how we're so looked down on, but it's like my water is on right now. You know, it's like when we get freezes in and Georgia, we bury our water line six inches below frost line. So it's 12 inches. So a foot in the ground is, it and I'll be honest with you, like, like, like most Georgia plumbers are like, man, i do about 10, you know,
00:53:37
Speaker
long as an inspector don't care, I'd do about 10. and And we get freeze snaps all the time. And you get all these people that are mad that their water line froze. And then they're like, why did it freeze? And you're well, it wasn't far enough the ground. They're like, well, why didn't you do that far ground? I'm like, whoa, I'm not the one who put your water line in, dumbass. This house was built in 1972. Not problem.
00:53:59
Speaker
um But you know i just I get frustrated with these people because they like they it's like we give them the power and we shouldn't. And that's what's frustrating to me. you know like like like When I talk to a customer, and I don't do this in a rude way, but I'm 43-year-old guy. going to call Smith.
00:54:22
Speaker
I'm going to call him steve his first name. You know, like I don't, I don't do that, that, that, that that that oh, hey, Mr. Smith, how are you? Is it okay if my van's parked out there in the street? Here's my little iPad. Let me show you your good, better, best options. Like, I don't do that shit. Like, like, hey, Steve, how are you, Justin? Let me, you know, what you got going on, you know, tell me what's going on. know, let's see if we can figure this out together, you know?
00:54:47
Speaker
And it just it just gets frustrating, you know, that that people feel like they are um better than us. It's been that, i you know, I will fully admit, I have been at it for 40 years now and there's Sukaras, hello Sukaras.
00:55:02
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um
00:55:05
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I've seen the change from where it was, we were absolutely, you know, for lack, and it sounds dramatic, but whatever, that we were second class citizens to now ah the And maybe it's just because of sort of the tenure that ah that me personally have gotten to, that we and the boys, certainly in the fields that we work on, are far more appreciated and maybe even revered for the stuff that we can fix in a timely manner.
Changing Perception of Plumbers
00:55:34
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um ah um i don't even know where I was going with that. but they um Not being a salesman. Yeah. Like you could, like we, when we show up and I tell you there's a problem with something, I'm like, dude, I'm not messing around. I'm not trying to sell you shit.
00:55:50
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Like either fix this or don't. And if you don't fix it, you got six months and it's going to cost you another 20 Gs. So you decide, you know, where you want to spend your dollars yeah and go off.
00:56:02
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So, I mean, that's, I guess that's good to hear. We certainly, I certainly hear lots of the horror stories and maybe that's,
00:56:11
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I don't I mean, I speaking out my ass when I say I don't know how strong the union is on the west side of the states because those guys there was one guy on here who sort of gone dark in the last couple of months. But he was saying that he talking about what's his name?
00:56:31
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ah He's one of those dudes that changes his handle every like three months, so I can't remember. i don't know. Mine's always been the same. changed the profile picture. That's about it. And I did that because of an influencer. I had to change my profile picture because of an influencer that was a fitness, Scotty K Fitness. I don't know if you know who that guy is. Oh, yeah. yeah Dude, like he – and he was like all big Fallout stuff.
00:56:55
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And I was a big fan of his. Dude, I mean, he kind of cleared it up. I mean, still kind stuff. But, I mean, he did kind of clear the air, you know. um But the whole thing was is that, you know, he stepped away from kind of that Fallout, like, figure. But, like, while that was going on, like – I kind of got some heat on TikTok. Oh, did you get some heat on it? Yeah, dude. And was like, bro, like I know I follow him, but damn, like only have 10K followers on there. Like i not like big, like, you know, like some dude was like, I would change my profile picture if I was you. And I was just like, right, well, it's probably time for a change anyways. So i just threw, I threw, I made chat GPT. I threw my my picture in there and I was like, make me into a, make me into a cool plumber. And it made that. And I was like, whatever. And I just uploaded it.
00:57:38
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Well, as I said in my little intro today, I'm like, well, I don't know who that who the hell that dude is, but I know who that is. ChatGPT, which it is what it does. You know, sexies everybody up quite a bit. so yeah oh Dude, i i do I think that this whole ChatGPT thing is the big is the laughing stock and such a failure of like this thing was going to – hold on.
00:57:59
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This thing was going to revolutionize like everything we did. And all we've seen are memes with Anakin and Padme and her boobs bigger. yeah And JD Vance super fat with an Afro glow dancing.
00:58:15
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And these crazy ones where like the people are normal and then they're blah, blah, blah, blah. They're like just like kind of disintegrating and you're just like, oh my God, you're like traumatizing yourself while watching this. you know And I'm just like, what is the point of this? like what was like I have ChatGPT and I use it like on a very like surface level usage. you know But like I've read stories of people like like asking of medical advice or like investment advice. And I'm like, what are you doing? like This is so dumb. like you know Well, you've been listen to if you listen to ear Elon in three years, it's going to like it's going to take over the entire world. Dude, Max Childs finally said something fucking funny. Like, Jesus, dude. Like, finally, you finally said something fucking decent and funny out of every dumb thing you've said in here. That is actually funny.
00:59:02
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Because I'd probably use that, too, and make mine a little bigger. So, you know, you know with ladies. but ah Damn. That's the line you need to say on Max Childs. like Right there. Stop going left. Stop going right. just Right there.
00:59:20
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Right at the dick pics. Clean up your dick pic, man. Just right there. make it Make it all whatever you want to do. Make it all banny. Whatever the chick's like. I don't know. Yeah.
00:59:32
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No, but you know, I just, I, I, you know, it's just, it's funny to me. We were talking about that and, ah and, and I was just like, yeah, it's just funny. And they might be implementing it in other aspects where, you know, it is being utilized, you know, for the betterment and everything. But,
00:59:46
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for at least the modern day, like every man like us, like this shit is just dumb. Like i can't tell how many advertisements that, that, that you'll see of like other like chat, you know, AI nonsense, like photo filter, like put yourself on a beach. And it's just like, I don't want to like, no, I do. I think it's, I think it's child's play.
01:00:07
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And I did, I was doing a, like I did some research on it.
ChatGPT & AI in Daily Life
01:00:11
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Every, like a single chat beat GPT query ah uses as much energy as a light bulb for 30 minutes.
01:00:20
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Like, it's just killing, like, it's sucking up all the juice. Hell yeah. America. Yeah, it's going to be the same fucking thing as the EV cars, right? Hell yeah, brother. Hell yeah.
01:00:31
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Get all the Cobalt, man. Fuck yeah, brother. they just ah You guys have opened Three Mile Island again. Did you hear that? They're turning it into Yeah, you're turning it back into a nuclear power plant for AI.
01:00:48
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Fuck yeah. How's it going to go wrong there? Nah, man. It's going to make everything better.
01:00:58
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Nobody's going to ever have to work again, Justin. That's just how it's going to go. It's over. They don't work anyway, so what the fuck's the point? Those guys don't. They obviously got time on their hands to do...
01:01:10
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All this the shady shit they're doing. All the customers, when I go to their house, they're working from home. like I'm just like, cool. like yeah Which, I mean, I can't complain because I mean i don't – with the company I work with, there are days that I also have to like be on calls or Zoom meetings or I'm emailing or making so like a module or something. And so I'm also at home. But I can also be called out to go on calls. so Yeah, yeah.
01:01:34
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But this is what it is. It is what it is. And and so how many like how many calls are you running in a week? Or is it slowing down? Like have you got tech in the field or are you the tech in Well, I'm one. So we have myself and then I have a coworker.
01:01:50
Speaker
But I can't gauge that because my schedule is like not your stereotypical service schedule. But I can tell you that I have – One of my buddies is doing well, but he just picked up a contract with um a property management group, which is kind of good, but I guess, you know, and those kind of go, you know, yeah, exactly. yeah um And I got another buddy of mine, but he does more new construction and high-end remodel and renovation. So he's been doing some new construction stuff in a neighborhood, but says it's been slow. Like they're not really trying to like meet deadline.
01:02:24
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They don't really have deadlines. theyre just building each home as it's being purchased. um So they're doing kind of doing that. i have two friends that still work for like the kind of big names in Georgia and everything. And they say it's been real up and down, you know, and I know, so you know, historically service plumbing, especially commission service plumbing is feast or famine, but they're saying it's kind of more famine than feast.
01:02:48
Speaker
So they're saying when there's Feast, it's good because they're doing like water filtration. They're doing like tankless installs, you know, PRVs. um You know, they're doing a couple of toilet replacements, but then it's like three or four days, nothing.
01:03:02
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you kind of got up and down. okay It is an interesting time, even for us. Like we're always busy, but usually we're doing, you know, anywhere between 12 to 16 calls And then,
01:03:17
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and then We've had a few, mostly because it's been so warm, where we're only doing four or five, and the boys are freaking out. And now we're back up to, it's been crazy the last couple of days. So it's pretty hard to gauge.
01:03:31
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What the hell is going on? So I gauge you with hirings. I try to look at companies that are hiring or seeing if companies are hiring, things like that. And I'll tell you that, you know Indeed's a good resource for that to kind of see what's what and who's hiring, at least in Georgia.
01:03:46
Speaker
And I'm not seeing a lot. And that's that that's what concerns me. And when I've asked a couple of my friends, like, hey, you don't want hire, and they're like, no, we don't. and And a lot of guys don't want to leave where they're at right now because they don't know if they will make that somewhere else.
01:04:02
Speaker
so it's people aren't aren't moving you mean i'm meaning like like like guys aren't like quitting to go work at other places or people aren't hiring because they need more techs so that you know they have enough work like right now like they're just kind of all staying on it's plateau basically yeah yeah yeah so according to according to your big man you guys the economy has never been better is that not true
01:04:30
Speaker
okay no No, no, no, it's not. None of it's true. None of it's true. There is nothing that any of these people say that is true. Nothing.
01:04:41
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It's not. Our economy is not better. i I pay. You don't even want to know my grocery bill. I mean, you know it. Well, I don't know. I mean, no i mean it's it's not. I mean, you know, but, you know, it's not.
01:04:53
Speaker
Bitcoin is down 61,000. think it's where it was at, 65,000. You know, there's no there's not been a correction yet. and but do you think there and yeah Nobody knows the answer to this, but is there a correction coming?
01:05:08
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or um um There could be. I mean, with with Bitcoin, it's it's it doesn't run ah like it doesn't run off a market mark. So here's my thing. I don't know anything about stocks. I mean, I do know about stocks, but I just don't, and I don't invest in them. um yeah I do invest in Bitcoin because it it is up and down right now.
01:05:27
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um But I, like others on here, invest in a different type of stock, and that is either some sort of TCG, if you understand what that is, um Pokemon or one piece.
Pokemon Cards as Alternative Investments
01:05:40
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Yeah. oh there go Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. What does Oh that is that market Is that like the, the what do they call those things? the the nip Was it the nifties?
01:05:53
Speaker
What do they call those things? The what? What were the like those digital ah fucking pictures that were super popular like five years ago? I don't know what that is. What are those things called? Somebody in the chat, tell me what those things were.
01:06:08
Speaker
We don't know what those are. I just saw a meme for Jake. bought one for like $900,000 and worth like $117. thousand dollars and sort of like hundred hundred and seventeen dollars You're talking about NFTs. Oh, NFTs. Yeah, no, no. Fuck out there now that. No, that's stupid. You can't play with those. You can't go to tournaments and win tournaments with that.
01:06:30
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You're doing Pokemon cards like straight up? Oh, yeah. You haven't seen the market on these things? I love it. I love it. I love it. Do you know that the Pokemon market, you can grow your money 500% more than the S&P?
01:06:43
Speaker
Shut up. Okay. Look it up. Okay, give it to me. Look it up. So i if I go out tomorrow and buy a fucking Pokemon card, I don't even know where I would buy one, but I'll go buy one.
01:06:55
Speaker
See, here's the thing. Once you rip that first pack, it's game over, bro. like it's game i'm telling I'm telling you, it's game over. You think it's not. You think it's not. You're like, oh, this is dumb.
01:07:06
Speaker
And then you hit that first full art or that first SIR or that IR. And you're like, what is this? How much is this worth? And you find out this card's worth like $100. And you're like, I paid $4 for this pack of cards.
01:07:20
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You're telling me I'm going to have to apologize to Terrence? the impetus because he's going to card shows selling cards because it's going so well? I mean, I'm...
01:07:34
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but Okay, I'm going to take that as a no. Let me put it this way. No, no, I agree that you should. Let me put it this way. So as someone that that that is a father, you know, and and is sort of head of household, you know, where my my wife's a nurse, so, you know, she could kill me in my sleep. So, you know, yeah yeah head of household,
01:07:54
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um You know, and and just in general, um i wanted i wanted to get in this, like, and so when I was younger, I played Pokemon, like every child does.
Re-entering the Pokemon Market
01:08:06
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And I kind of got stepped away from it. I had my cards for a while. I got hoodwinked by, like, a former friend. He, like, bought them for me for, like, $200, found out I had, like, $50,000 probably in cards.
01:08:16
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um And then I slowly got back into it. And at first it was like, you know, you buy cards. I'm looking this up. Look it up. i I cannot, I cannot.
01:08:29
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Yeah. he go Keep going. Keep going. So you got your buddy ripped you off. so to So for instance, i i be bag I ripped a pack and I pulled a card that was like 20 bucks. And then in three weeks, that same card was worth 60 bucks.
01:08:45
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So I sold it. So I paid $4 for a pack oft cards. For who? I got, well, I bought bought it from a Pokemon vending machine. I got a card that at the time was worth like $20, but then that card became popular, so then it became about $60, and then I sold it.
Pokemon Card Buying & Selling
01:09:02
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So I made $55, basically. basically
01:09:07
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And you call it the TCG. All right, here we go. guys Here we go. All right, so Hammett knows what's up. And did you sell it to? And I suppose there's a guy on a Marketplace.
01:09:20
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So did you have to mail it to him, or did you come to your house with $60 for your stupid card? i don't just i was on Why would I bring a stranger to my house? i Dude, I don't know. why that's me weton i met him like any respectable human does for any type of drug deal. i met him in a shady gas station parking lot and made it as awkward as fuck.
01:09:43
Speaker
That's what I did. Pussy or a trading card? This guy knew what he was buying, and I knew what I was selling. We both knew what was up. Okay. ok okay right Okay. Okay. so But that's only that's only a Pokemon card that is what we call a raw single.
01:10:04
Speaker
Then you have graded cards. Grade A cards? graded Graded cards. Cards that you send into grading companies. literally on the TCG player website. Is that what I'm supposed to be on? Oh, that's TCG player. You don't need that. Just Google Pokemon. Just type in Pokemon cards. Just type in your Google searcher. don't know. you guys can ask Google or do you have like some... Do you use Bing?
01:10:28
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No, we have Google. Okay, I just want to make sure. Yeah, see, Heat Pump Heroes knows what's up.
01:10:36
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So just ham it. so So I... Where did you buy them? So I type in Pokemon cards. I literally have I can buy them on Amazon, eBay. Yep. Don't buy them off Amazon. Don't ever buy them Amazon. Oh, no. Okay. Okay.
01:10:50
Speaker
You hear that, people? Don't buy them off Amazon. No, they already know. They already know. um You either want to go to your local card shop, which is the LCS and pay market, which is not MSRP. You can try to find a Pokemon vending machine to get these at MSRP, and you can try your Target or Walmart.
01:11:08
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but most scalpers and resellers have already beat you to it because they know the schedules of the
Media Influence on Pokemon Market
01:11:12
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restockers. I'm telling you, bro, you want to go down a rabbit hole? You want to go down a fun rabbit hole? Go down this road to my rabbit hole. I'm telling you.
01:11:19
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In six months' time, you're going to drop like 20 pounds, and your bank account is going to be at like $10. But you're going to have all this inventory of all this sealed product. You have PC10s, Beckett, CGCs, like everything.
01:11:33
Speaker
How many cards do you got, bro? uh raw singles i don't know like somewhere around maybe 200 300 really yeah and then you got like you're telling me you got like two grand of inventory is that a legitimate number i mean i have like 10 grand of inventory 10 grand okay
01:11:59
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okay um most some of it like I think like four or five grand is in what we call sealed product, which is a product I have not opened. that you ah So Pokemon comes in waves. So when they have a set release, they that set will ride out for a while. Sometimes it'll be a couple of years, sometimes it'll be a few months, depending upon what the set is and where we are at in the Pokemon world.
01:12:21
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Because there's multiple aspects that play in the Pokemon market, and it's not just the cards. It's the cards, it's the video game, and it's the TV series. All of that affects your value of your cards up and down.
01:12:34
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See, these guys are just talking about surface-level stuff, like weighing packs. Yeah, you can probably you can't weigh packs now, but apparently Ascended Heroes, you'll be able to weigh the packs. Ascended Heroes?
01:12:45
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Ascended Heroes. That's the newest being released right now that everybody wants. So so there are there new Pokemon? I thought we caught them all. No. I mean, yes, there is new Pokemon. But right now we're in between like like primary sets because Scarlet and Violet is ending and Wind and Waves is starting. So right now we're in the Mega Evolution period or the Legend ZA period, as they call it. That's like kind of a side game.
01:13:12
Speaker
So like the main game is about to come out. You do understand that the playing card game, the TCG game, the children's TCG game, Pokemon TCG, which stands for trading card game, you do understand that it's a world championship. And when you go there, like if you get in what are called the top cuts, like you walk away with $100,000 and merch that you can sell for an additional
Trading Card Market Dynamics
01:13:35
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$100,000. The winner of the Pokemon International TCG tournament... wins a million dollars and then they give them a card that's also worth a million dollars and that is because of the that is because of logan paul by the way many moons ago when he started this like tradition that they kept on the pokemon company kept on with and that is you go and you win you win like two million dollars so logan paul actually has done something good for this world is that what you're saying
01:14:03
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um I wouldn't say good. i would say that professionally, Logan Paul has helped fluff the financial market of Pokemon now. Because what he is doing now is that he has jumped over into the one-piece TCG market, and he is causing huge inflections there.
01:14:19
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That is why Terrence is selling what he is selling, because he is making triple or 10 times or 100 times sometimes of the amount that he initially spent.
01:14:31
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It's wild. It's the wildest thing. And that's with gra graded cards and with with with ah raw cards. But with the One Piece TCG community, they're kind of fighting back because it's more players than collectors because I play the One Piece TCG. That one's a little more adult, a little more fun, in my opinion. I play Pokemon too, but I prefer the One Piece one. Yeah.
01:14:53
Speaker
Is there a skill involved in this, or is it like winning the lottery? you take the a you take the you take the aspect out of like the fantasy creatures and the anime superpowers and stuff, and what it is is it's a strategy game where you have pieces of a puzzle that you're trying to put together faster than your opponent is.
01:15:11
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So that's the whole method. Now, with Pokemon, it's more like 50% luck, 50% skill, but like with ah One Piece TCG, it's like 70% skill, 30% luck.
01:15:22
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Magic the Gathering is like almost 100% skill because you can have as many cards as you want in that fucking deck. And they just... it it Yeah. And then Yu-Gi-Oh! is so complex that like they can just one-shot you and end you completely.
01:15:36
Speaker
And then you have, for our super nerdy friends in here that know what I'm about to say, you have Weiss Schwartz which is even a harder fucking TCG game to play, but it's really good. Because Weiss Schwartz is all about the setup, like setting up your cards to make like one big combo or attack.
01:15:52
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so So I just like showed my nerd side more than I wanted to. Listen, we started off with Nexstar. Yep. Swung into Israel for a minute.
01:16:03
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ah no No, no, no. They swung into Israel. They swung into Israel. And I don't know why the fuck you would come into there and start throwing stuff like that. But I was like, nah, that's not, it's bad.
01:16:16
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so And now you're telling me, so is it it's basically Dungeons and Dragons. I'm just trying to wrap my head around it. Dungeons and Dragons is an RPG, which is a role-playing game. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You design and develop a character, and then as you progress through a through an adventure, dungeon crawl as we call it, um you either level up or you're already leveled up, and you have an adventure with or without your friends, depending upon who's with you.
01:16:41
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The...
Trading Cards as Business & Hobby
01:16:43
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Like, Pokemon and One Piece are cards, trading cards, from a television series that have certain abilities or traps or, you know, attacks or defenses that can help give or pull in this strategy game.
01:17:02
Speaker
Remember that game Civilization that you used to play on the board and stuff? Imagine that as cards. That's what Pokemon and and One Piece and Magic the Gathering and all the other... All these trading card games are basically you know like some sort of strategy game. It's all about the the mind. you know So that's that's why people play these games. That's why you know people make fun of these kind of like quote unquote nerdy kids that play these games. But these kids are incredibly smart. And this is what they like to do as just like a warm up for their brain for like other things.
01:17:31
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just So Colin, the plumber says, I'm just here for the, pi course which one would you want? You want the TCG, the investor, the scalper or the player, which, which version do you want? Cause there's a bunch depending upon what you, wait what you want to do with your money. Listen, man, I'll tell you. So this has nothing to do with it, but well, it reminds me when I,
01:17:56
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It was, I don't know, a decade ago i decided was to beekeeping. We're here for the drama of we got Pokemon. Pokemon, exactly right. but but but Sorry I failed you, Timberwolf Plumbing.
01:18:10
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I decided a decade ago I was going to do beekeeping, and I thought that was going to i was goingnna make a million dollars because I didn't know a single beekeeper. I'm like, dude, honey's huge, blah, blah, blah, blah. blah Anyway, there's like eight levels deep on that shit.
01:18:23
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or you like It's crazy. It's like plumbing, right? like You think it's flappers and plug toilets. And you're like, man, you could go ah eight levels deep.
01:18:34
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like It's never ending on the complexities of all that stuff. And anyway, and it's the same with my stupid bees. And clearly, ah it's the same with Pokemon, which I never thought in my entire life. Oh, yeah. and I'd have civilized conversation about.
01:18:50
Speaker
Yeah, and and listen, I know it sounds crazy at first. It does. I didn't believe it either. But I'm telling there's a whole like market to it. There's a whole way to see like you know future predictions of your cards and stuff. There's a whole way to like just... like you know like like like It's wild. like it It really is. And
01:19:10
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and i want to say this So one of my like businesses that I do is that
High-Profile Pokemon Card Sales
01:19:15
Speaker
that's what it is. I have like an LLCs and stuff that I buy and sell ah trading cards and stuff, not just Pokemon, but then I also play. And a lot of that money I can use and as a tax write-off you know because I'm using it as a quote-unquote business.
01:19:27
Speaker
I know, wild, right? because i'm buying because Because I'm buying a product and reselling it. So I can classify it as... Do you have an actual Pokemon company? Well, not a Pokemon company, but I have like... Whatever, that you run all your numbers through.
01:19:41
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Well, i have like a basic LLC for it. Yeah. It's wild. My accountant was the was like, if you're going to do this, run it through an LLC. And I was like, why? And he's like, because you can have a tax write off on it. He's like, if you're buying product and selling it, he's like, we can show that as like a resale.
01:19:55
Speaker
So now some States require a license. I don't think Georgia does. So at least he didn't say anything yet. So it's like one of those, like, you know, it's better to, to ask for forgiveness and ask for permission. So yeah yeah yeah it's not the first time I've had the IRS money. Whoops. So,
01:20:10
Speaker
I don't know how Canada does that, but for here, I'm just like, how many years I got before i got to pay you three? We're going to wait that limit out. so Yeah. our Ours is the CRA and they're just as nasty as ours. Okay. So, yeah.
01:20:23
Speaker
But, but, you know, so, and that's what i'm saying is that like, that's like, you know, the whole like, you know, kind of like, you know, kind of poking at Terrence and stuff. Like he's just an entrepreneur. He's just, he's just a business owner that just wants to grow his wealth and his portfolio It's just, it's one of his things, it's one of his passions. And that's what makes, like like, I guess, like, the trading card community so cool is that they can take a hobby and actually profit off it if you do it correctly. You can also, so like, the lottery, or ga this is basically gambling.
01:20:50
Speaker
You can also, like, completely bankrupt yourself and, but you know. i mean, no, I mean, seriously, there are people that, like, have, like, lost their house or, like, their... Their spouses left them because they just could not stop.
01:21:03
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Like they're buying all the, like when I post on Marketplace. hear that Terrence? Slow the fuck down, man. Well, Terrence is kind of like me. He's one of the more of the sellers. So he's one of the dealers to the, to the but again but but again, the One Piece community is more players than, so if you notice Terrence doesn't have a lot of graded cards. So you don't see. Dude, I don't know enough.
01:21:22
Speaker
I literally just made fun of him when he's changing cards on my team. If I could go grab one, I would, but i'm not going and I'm not going to. But they're cards that are sealed in a plastic like like a plastic like little container thing.
01:21:34
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and And they're graded. they're They're sealed in there. They have a certain grade, and they hold a value.
Valuable Family Card Collections
01:21:39
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Some of these cards, like, you know, the Chars or the Illustrator Pikachu that Logan Paul just sold for, think, $13.5 million. Oh, my gosh.
01:21:50
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I think was was was what it was. um Yeah, I think $13.5 million. My wife's, like, stomping off. um Is it in trouble?
01:22:01
Speaker
No, I don't think so. i think she's she's i think the I think my daughter and her friend have gone, like... like through the neighborhood. We have a safe neighborhood. 16.4. Yeah, million dollars was what he sold that card, that shiny cardboard. Well, it's not even shiny cardboard because that's one of the older, that's one of the vintage cards. That card alone is what kind of changes the market and and um and and and in in a in a good way right now. but But there's been a lot of shady stuff that he's done, you know.
01:22:32
Speaker
But the whole TCG market, man, yeah, you could you could flip. If you do it the right way, you could you could turn $100 into $1,000 in like a few months. I know. You're just shaking your head. You're like, that's wild. But you're reading it. I know you are. You're like, you're looking at it. I'm looking at the card right
01:22:48
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. I'm telling you, Google, they have, i think the Wall Street Journal wrote an article on it. I'm looking at it right now. i'm on MSN right now. Yeah. $16 million dollars for stupid, on February sixteenth Yeah.
01:23:02
Speaker
Well, it did. It did have a full diamond necklace to with, but I think the diamond necklace is only worth $75. How much? I'm looking at it. It says ah the diamond necklace was worth $75,000. Yeah.
01:23:14
Speaker
Yeah. Diamond necklace was worth $75,000. The rest of was the card and at the PSA. The rest of the card. Yeah. Yeah. But it's not even a real PSA 10 because it has damage on it, and people point that out all the time.
01:23:25
Speaker
Called an illustrator card? Yeah, which's ah it's a very rare card. It was given out as a in the early days of of Pokemon. Pokemon cards, like vintage cards, are worth so much money. It's wild. It's wild.
01:23:37
Speaker
But it's been around. the The market's been around for like 10, 15 years. And Pokemon's been around. We're about to celebrate the 30th anniversary. Listen, my kids were into it. I just didn't ever... If they have their cards still, they probably might be sitting on a they might see sit on a secret fortune and don't even know it.
Video Gaming & Family Bonding
01:23:54
Speaker
Maybe. We're going to have to bring that up in our Monday morning meeting. You might have to. Hey, who's got your Pokemon cards? Who's got your Pokemon cards? Bought by Timberwolf, AJ Sacrammucci, whoever the hell that is. Who's that?
01:24:13
Speaker
I don't know. I don't know. who like It's some rich little prick kid that that has $16.4 million dollars to buy that card.
01:24:22
Speaker
I don't know who that is, but...
01:24:26
Speaker
That's crazy. Wait for Sunday. Make Jesus rookie cards. They're going up in value. I'd buy those. with Jesus. watch How are the Olympics? Are you watching the Olympics? Do even care about the Winter Olympics in Georgia?
01:24:40
Speaker
um I have four children and my wife's a night nurse. So I don't get to do anything on the television until like 10 o'clock at night. And at that point, I'm either playing Rocket League or Warframe because I don't do Call Duty and I haven't found anyone that wants to do some Ark Raiders or Helldivers.
01:25:04
Speaker
oh There you go. My kids are and Isaiah and Peter are into Helldivers. I think that... I mean, that's certainly... I've heard that. And I'm losing my age. but It's so much fun. It's so much fun.
01:25:15
Speaker
it's just i don't know ah do do you game Do you play video games? i know No. It's a good stress relief, man. It's good, I'm telling you. Unless you get on chat and you have like some 12-year-old kid calling you everything under the sun.
01:25:31
Speaker
i think i played the Nintendos and the Segas. ah like the nintendos and the segas and And then and would kick my kids butts until they were like 14 and then yep played some Halo and they were sniping me. As soon as i so I stick my head around the corner and be dead. I'm like, OK, F you.
01:25:51
Speaker
I'm done. That was me. That was me. It's fun now. It spun out because now you get these kids that will do like a 360 in the air and just pull
Children's Behavior in Online Gaming
01:25:59
Speaker
the trigger. It's called the 360 no scope and they just take you out. and you're like, how did you even hit that shot? Like, that's like, that's, that's, that's ridiculous. And then they call you like some, they either call you like the N word or they tell you going sex with your mom. But I told some kid, I like, dude, my mom's like 78 years old. Do you really want to do that? And they didn't know what to say. He's like, well, I was like, bro, mean, I can get this done for you. i was like, I'm telling you.
01:26:23
Speaker
I take enough shade on Instagram for being an old man. I don't think I could... I don't think my ego could handle gaming with some 12-year-old lighting me up all over the place. So i stick with I'll stick with the environment that I'm familiar with, I think. Yeah. I mean, it's bad. It's bad. I mean, they they say there's like... They have stuff like handled...
01:26:42
Speaker
but they don't. like like like they they If they don't get you like on the mic, they get you in the chat like log thing because they can also like text you and stuff. and They're just spelling things weird, but you can read it and see it. just like Where are your parents?
01:26:58
Speaker
Where there's a will, there's a way, man. it The more barriers they put up, the more fences they break. That's just how that thing goes, man. Yep. yep That's funny.
01:27:09
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ahlaman and yeah Learn all Sorry, man. i We have no control on where these things go. We don't. though We don't. I'm sorry. I'm sorry there's not like some drama. We're not screaming at each other. You know, we just, we, we, we hash it out. We were cool and we're good now. And, and Baker's kind of got something going, you know, he's, he's revealing these things.
01:27:30
Speaker
am i I mean, kind of, you're getting there, you know, you're just the tip, like you're almost there. little bit deeper and we'll open the vault.
01:27:41
Speaker
Maybe. maybe Maybe. Maybe. maybe Drain cleaning is not plumbing. And go. In my opinion, drain cleaning is plumbing because you technically have to have a license in Georgia to do drain cleaning.
01:27:54
Speaker
But also in Georgia, you could have run your own handyman business without a license, without liability insurance, without a business
Influencers & Algorithm Changes
01:28:01
Speaker
license. You could just give people your phone number, go on Nextdoor Facebook, and the government won't stop you until you get caught, if you get caught.
01:28:10
Speaker
Listen, anybody that says that it's not plumbing is retarded. It's the original plumber. What else what else do you call a plumber for? Back in the day. That's what started the whole fucking thing. It's clearing the drain.
01:28:21
Speaker
True. Right? right Yeah. Well, that was the Roto-Rooter guy, though. Because the Roto-Rooter guy was the one. because they weren't because they Because, I mean, I don't know. I've i've never done I've stories about rotting a drain line. you know That's where I started with a fucking coil. Yeah.
01:28:36
Speaker
oil Just fucking poking at shit. Yeah. Pounding it through. You're just compacting a ah ah blockage to push through it. bad It was bad. was bad. The first machine I ever bought, I was like, this is a godsend. And it was the worst machine ever.
01:28:52
Speaker
like it was the first machine Was it one of the old ones? that like yeah just Yeah. It was a huge contraction. Every time you used it, it threatened to rip your dick off. because you were yeah yeah you You had to get in there close to make it work. And if it caught your pants the right way,
01:29:06
Speaker
You're like, oh. is It was the early sectional machines. Yeah, it was early sectionals. Yeah, those things were a nightmare. Seriously, you took your life, yourre certainly your fingers and your hands and you into you always ended up with a bruise. That's just how it went.
01:29:23
Speaker
Yep, or get hit in the face with cable because it binds up. Yeah, that was terrible. Someone invite Matt to get it going. Man, Matt don't have time for this stuff. You see what he's doing? He's got Moe and Larry right now. He's killing it. Dude, he's killing it, man. Dude, I mean, he is working night and day.
01:29:37
Speaker
Yep. Wow, he's got those twins, man. And that's the thing. He's doing it a smart way. You know, he's taking all that money that he's making off social media. I don't know. The the rumor mill is right now, because I don't really make any money. um All the money that I make is either on Facebook or when I do these like brand things.
01:29:54
Speaker
um I don't get paid for my video views or anything. But hold on. We got a motorcycle. Go by my house. We get that at night. um I know that a lot of the guys that do make money, they're like, it's like a third of what they're used to be making.
01:30:11
Speaker
Yeah. you know Well, we, it was, and I don't, it's been a while since me and Matt have sort of connected on that sort of stuff, but we did that live, I'll say a year ago. And he said his revenue debt was down by half.
Authenticity in Brand Deals
01:30:23
Speaker
Like the first year he was like, dude, I'm going to like, this is my job. yeah I'm going to be a fucking influencer and pound it out. And then Facebook's like, no, no, no, no. no We're going to start throttling you back, bro. yeah well i was making I was making off my videos and and and photos on Facebook like a year about two years ago.
01:30:44
Speaker
i was making anywhere from $800 to $1,000 about. and Then one day it just went under. yeah month? No, no, Per month. Oh, God, I wish per month. No, per month. Yeah.
01:30:58
Speaker
Yeah. So, but no but now it's like, it's like a third of that. Canada, you can't make money off of it. Yeah. And that's what sucks, dude. Like I, Vader told me that too, um that, that you can't make money there. You know, I was like, dude, what do you mean that America's the only one that offers?
01:31:14
Speaker
So you guys, you don't make any, so any of these Canadian people, influencers, they're not making any money. So everything's through grand deals. Everything's who brands. That's the only way they make money. But that's that's the thing. that that's where that That's the path they're going now. I don't you know i think now that we're going to see the media platforms pull back, but the ad platforms push more. Because on TikTok, I get hit up by everybody. And I'm like, dude, I don't want to i don't want to sell bras You know, like, I i don't know you messaged me that.
01:31:42
Speaker
And it's funny because, like, they they message me that. they They'll message me, like, they'll be like, we love your content. I'm like, what aspect of my content does it say that I should, like, you know, sell, like, face moisturizer?
01:31:53
Speaker
The dribbins? Like, is that it? Like, I don't know. don't get it. so
01:32:00
Speaker
Everything is marketing now. Everything sales and marketing if you notice that. Everything is. Every other video on TikTok is is is an ad on here. yeah Every other reel is another ad.
01:32:11
Speaker
you know I've got people hitting me up wanting me to sell their intuitive AI the ah you know app. they want me to just and and Listen, i'm I'm for it, but here's my thing because I'm about to be posting some stuff. like I'm not going to sell a product if I don't like it or if it doesn't make sense for my platform. I'm with you. I don't think you should.
01:32:32
Speaker
Well, I'm not because I have, I mean, like I'll i'll let the, I got, ah so so I got this cool little sewer camera. I'm actually really impressed with it. um And I'm going be making a video soon on it. and And I actually like it a lot, but it's a great camera for someone that like doesn't want to spend the money for the name brand shit, you know?
Humorous Black Eye Incident
01:32:49
Speaker
And that's my whole thing is that like this stuff's great, but like who has $5,600 to buy a Milwaukee, you know, mini reel and monitor. There are 12 grand up here. Like, whatever you guys pay, you can add almost, like, pretty much double.
01:33:04
Speaker
It's wild. like ah For a camera system, for me, it's 30 Gs. Timberwolf wants to know the story about the Shiner. I guess I'll let it out of the bag now because I told you what I wanted. yeah ah so when um when did you When did you leave Epstein Island and join the yeah Illuminati?
01:33:20
Speaker
ah Dude, I would hang myself if I if i joined Epstein Island. ah that is it is i've actually so Here's the thing. i've I've actually gone into the Epstein library. and and It's crazy.
01:33:31
Speaker
Dude, it's awful. It is awful. and It's wild. You read this some of this stuff and you're like, this isn't real. Like, this this can't be real. like this You can't tell me that this is what... And then it's like, this can't be real. And then they release an audio thing, and you're like, fuck, it is real. Like, like you see this stuff, and it's just mind-boggling. But anyway, um going back to like this this this thing, because you're not doing that same thing. um Fuck them all. um And not not like that. The the the take them out front and just... and just
01:34:05
Speaker
You know, just just yeah every single one of them. I don't care who it is. Gone. Just off with their head. Anyway, um I have a 13-year-old daughter. She is very quick-witted. She is funny. She's like one of my favorite people.
01:34:19
Speaker
um we we We get along well. And she being 13, she likes to get out of the house and stuff. So i was going to the gas station, and there's a Subway sandwich place right there. And I kind of pull up right there, and there's a guy, probably about his 20s or 30s, sitting there eating a sandwich by himself. He fight?
01:34:35
Speaker
No, no, no, no, no. Okay. but No. I mean, kind of kind of, but not the fight you'd think. yeah Okay. so So, he's sitting there and like my daughter just kind of looks over at him and she just kind of starts making fun of him. And I'm like, I'm like, Hey, I'm like, be nice. I'm like, that guy's just eating.
01:34:50
Speaker
And she's just like, oh, yeah, just look at me. and just sitting here, you know, just kind of being a 13, being funny, you know. So I get out of the car, and as every dad probably does, we think of like a quick retort that you're like oh, I got this one I'm going say to her.
01:35:03
Speaker
So I spun around, and I was like kind of like really excited to like – and even remember what it was because I knocked myself. so hard that I knocked on my head. I spun it around real quick and I grabbed the door to open the car door and I just have, I don't know why, but I moved my head like this when I opened the car door and just slammed it right in my face, dude.
01:35:23
Speaker
And the worst part was I had my glasses on. It's like my sunglasses were on. They're like all crooked and messed up. And I hit myself in the face like so hard that like I had to like lay my head down and my daughter was like, oh, damn, dad, are you okay? And I was like, just shut up. I was like, don't talk to me.
Resolving Social Media Drama
01:35:41
Speaker
Don't do nothing.
01:35:43
Speaker
And when I opened my eyes, like when I opened my eye, because I had to go into this, this i had to I had to go to this gas station. When I opened my eyes, I could just see this knot sticking right out of my face. Like I could see this little thing there. And I was like, damn, dude. I was like, I i just goose egged side of my face and it's going to black.
01:36:00
Speaker
And it was worse now. It looks a lot better than it did. but So that's kind of why I haven't posted anything and I haven't just said anything on social media because I do not want to be like, it happen. Dude, you're not they're the same as me. You're not making any money off your look, so just keep posting your content no matter what's going on.
01:36:17
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, but no, that's that's that's how i that's I knocked myself. That's i got this nice little shiner. It's just my daughter likes to tell everybody. She gave it to you or that you knocked herself out? No, that slammed myself in the face with my car door. She witnessed it.
01:36:35
Speaker
And it's her fault for razzing some poor dude that's just trying to eat a sandwich. Just eating a sandwich. Just some little 13-year-old. Just running him through the ringer for no reason. No.
01:36:46
Speaker
Well, those women, are there're they're hardcore. You know that. Yeah. so you Especially mine. Mine are tough. Mine got to be tough around me because I have my moments of insanity, as they call it, where I just like flip out start getting loud.
01:36:59
Speaker
That's good. ah yeah it's good But anyway... it's um Well, I don't know. i' My whole thing with with us is that for for the most part, I think that we've kind of squashed the the beef. that The pool boy one is I think what brought us together.
01:37:16
Speaker
because i agree. because Because when I watch you make your video, I was thinking the things you were saying out loud. And I was just like, why what? like i was just like, why is this?
01:37:29
Speaker
Where is this coming from? I like how he was directly like, you, Baker. I'm going to get you. And then immediately was just kind like, F you, Baker. And another thing. There's a bunch of people on the internet that I don't like. And I was like, what happened to Baker?
01:37:48
Speaker
No. there was some His brain was literally... You could watch his brain short-circuiting. It was the funniest thing I ever saw. just like at oh and there's a bunch of others. And he starts...
01:37:59
Speaker
Wait, what about me? I thought this was about me. And then just completely, yeah, didn't say anything until the end. And it was like, but I love everybody. And I love you. love everybody, love everybody. And that's it.
01:38:11
Speaker
Fuck you. Right. And I was just like, wow, but that was wild. Like the roller coaster ride he took us on. So that's one that that that was that was kind of what what kind of solidifies. And like I said, and I'll say it again, like you're right there. Like I like the content.
01:38:28
Speaker
you're You're right there. It's just, you know, we just got to kind of get a little bit more on all this because people need to know, like they need to know that like when you sign up, when you go to these companies, and I'm not saying it's bad. You know, if you need money and you know you can make a nice paycheck there,
01:38:42
Speaker
And they can train you to do better in sales. And they can train you and they can give you the, the, what you need to get further in your life. Do it, be selfish. You know, that's what I tell everyone, like in this trade and until you reach a level where you feel comfortable or you can sort of rest on your laurels, like you have to be selfish, especially if you're a person that is also supporting others, you know?
01:39:04
Speaker
Um, but I agree with, I agree with your model. Like if you can work for somebody for eight months and learn as much as you can and, take you know Take as much as you can to provide for your you and yours, and then repeat the cycle as often as you can to get, like you say, get to the point you... Sorry, I cut you off
Financial Struggles & High-Interest Loans
01:39:22
Speaker
there, but yeah. No, you're fine. that's yeah I think that's perfect.
01:39:25
Speaker
Yeah. that' He threatened me too and then blocked me after I said he looks like an English bulldog. Nice. He hasn't blocked me. don't think he even responded to that video, but anyway. But yeah, like I said, just... For me, it doesn't work. You know, it's not
01:39:42
Speaker
It's a conscious thing. And it's like when I go to the 68-year-old widow's house, that water heater hadn't been replaced in five years because her husband took care of everything.
01:39:54
Speaker
And she's on a limited budget. you know She's a limited income now because she doesn't get both Social Securities. She only gets one. comes another car if you hear it. Yeah. and it's And it's tough to be like, all right, ma'am, well, here you go. Go ahead and sign up for this Greenway loan, and ah you know it's 120% interest rate, and be paying this shit off probably you that.
01:40:18
Speaker
and and you know you're going to make three four hundred dollars off that You know? and so it's over time, it's like tough because then you start to see your mom or your grandmother or, you know, your sister who is also a single mother who's struggling financially, you know?
01:40:36
Speaker
yeah or you get the guy that like has the money but just wants to haggle you on price. You know? Like it's tough. No, I agree. It's, there's not, and that's the problem that I have with that system is they're like, this is,
01:40:50
Speaker
This is the script and this is what you get. This is your reverse mortgage, man. I just saw that. ah So you talk about the biggest government scheme ever. Reverse mortgage. We'll pay you. Once you're fucking dead, we own that piece of property. Exactly.
01:41:10
Speaker
I thought when it, like it's been out for a while, but I do remember when I first saw the commercials for that stuff, I was like, wait a minute. What? How does that work? Like, literally, they're going to take... If you outlive it, then fucking you're out anyway. Sorry, man. There's nothing left, so...
01:41:27
Speaker
thanks for yeah Thanks for your house. They give you fair market value for your home, which is always under what the you know actual appraisal value is. Yeah. And then they give you a certain amount. And if you don't die during that certain amount.
01:41:39
Speaker
bound You're fucking out. We got rent this motherfucker to get our rent to make our price back. And
Trades vs Traditional Education
01:41:46
Speaker
then private equity comes in and buys up the whole fucking neighborhood and they charge $3,000 per home to rent it.
01:41:53
Speaker
Yep. You know? No. It's... ah As we've said, there's a lot of craziness going on. And I'll just repeat what I've said in the past. The only thing that you can really control is your own little house. And as you know, with your black eye, you have you don't have that much control of that either.
01:42:11
Speaker
but Nope. That's what I tell them. Like, I don't, I don't do politics. And I did for a while. Like, I have a degree in in history. Like, I went to college. Like, I got introduced into construction when I was in college because I needed a job.
01:42:25
Speaker
And yeah I didn't want to work at, you know, the local grocery store that everyone else is working at. so I got on a construction crew and it was awesome. you know I learned framing because was on a framing crew before I got into plumbing.
01:42:36
Speaker
um i did concrete. I hated fucking concrete. i bad i did I did roofing in August. like It was miserable. um but i learned i learned these skill sets and I liked it. and i dropped out of college because I was like, why am I going to pay this place tens of thousands of dollars to maybe get a degree. And I was in history. only reason why did it because my dad was like, you've got to go to college if to succeed. That man will still not acknowledge that I'm successful. I'm a master plumber.
01:43:03
Speaker
Really? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And he still, he, he, he, because I didn't get a college degree. So you don't a college degree. Like I hold a master's license and he's like, so like, what do you hold? You, you, you were a chef.
01:43:16
Speaker
Like, yeah, you were really good at being a chef with his life, but he, you know, but that's, that's, that's a different conversation on a different podcast. No, I agree. It it is a, it is the stigma of sort of the baby boomers, right?
01:43:30
Speaker
if you will, that you had college was the only way to success. Like this is, you do this, this, and this, and you're so successful successful. It worked for them. didn't work for us. And it's not going to work anymore. And even more so now.
01:43:43
Speaker
Oh, it's worse than ever. Do you know why that it makes more sense to be a nurse than a doctor in the state or in in America, in the United States? Sorry. No, because there's less debt when you go. When you go, my my wife has my wife had zero debt when she got out of when she graduated.
01:43:58
Speaker
And from how many years, how many years is that for eight or two? Oh, two. She hasn't she hasn't asin. So in Georgia, you can have an asin and still take the NCLEX. So she is a she's a registered nurse and and she makes very good money.
01:44:14
Speaker
Very good money. and And the hospital... i mean, dude, it's wild. The laws that we have in the United States for nurses, like they get everything. like i like like we like she's They're about to open up a new wing just for because she does the ah labor and delivery stuff.
01:44:28
Speaker
Okay. Yeah, and she does nights. So she works all night doing that. But it's just... It's incredible to me. The medical trade, I guess, as we call They don't call it that. That's what it is.
01:44:40
Speaker
Yeah. and And she is like... just killing it. so and And doctors, like you got, like some of that stuff is 12 to 15 years, isn't it? Yeah. specialize I mean, doctors will make really good money, but they have to find their specialty and then they have to get in it and then they have to residency in it, you know, which is a year, or two years, sometimes depending on what it it is, you know, there's a lot that that doctors like are in debt for. it and And nowadays, even more so, like working a hospital is not very profitable as it is in a private practice.
01:45:14
Speaker
Yeah. So a lot of people move that they even nurses and doctors, they'll move to private practices, less hours, more money. It's interesting because we have that problem up here where everybody's going to the States to do the private practice, to do the private practice thing.
01:45:28
Speaker
Oh, yeah. They get their education here. They get do all their stuff and they're like, I'm going to go challenge whatever they I don't know what they're. nomenclature is, but, and then they're like, they're out. I'm gone. And then they find, they get here and like, Oh my God, I can go to Switzerland or Thailand and be a nurse out there. Cause my license is transferable.
01:45:44
Speaker
And I can go work in these, these reconstructive hospitals that cost a third of what they cost here. But the money value is so much better there that that's why I can live out there.
01:45:54
Speaker
Yeah. That you, yeah. Like it's, it's wild. Yeah. I saw that inflation and everything here is killing it for us. Oh, it's bad, right? Oh, so bad.
Economic Hardships & Financial Planning
01:46:05
Speaker
The housing market's bad. The auto industry's bad. i mean, I don't know if you can see like our prices for like used vehicles, but I'm telling you right now, you're going to pay $20,000 to $30,000 more than what you should on a huge vehicle right now in the States.
01:46:21
Speaker
Seriously? Yes. Seriously? Yes. I'm talking you're going to pay $60,000. You're going to pay you're goingnna pay buy a a truck that's $68,000. That's one year old. That really is only – that cost them maybe $5,000 to make.
01:46:36
Speaker
And the written the excuses we get is the microchips, the microchips. AI is eating up all the microchips. So that's why this vehicle – so they just sit. No one buys vehicles right now Houses, that's all inflated right now too.
01:46:50
Speaker
Oh, houses are insane. like and It's everywhere. Although it's starting to come down up here in Canada. Yeah. Is it going to come down to a point where it's reasonable again? i don't know. It will. It has to. Because the first time, I mean, either that or like like we have what is called the FHA loans, which is like first-time homebuyer loans. Yeah. They're going to have to offer more. They're going to have to relax their regulations more so that people can afford to buy homes. Because, mean, it's it's ridiculous. But, i mean, everything is. It's a messed up world, man.
01:47:25
Speaker
It's a messed up world. Every one of those things that we just talked about is another fricking two hour podcast. It is. It is. And that's why I'm trying to get the community to understand that like, Hey, like we kind of need to stop infighting and start like coming up with a plan globally.
01:47:45
Speaker
Listen, I, I agree with you. I think we have the power, man. I really do. I've said it forever. I think we're worth more, far more than we realize. And, um, I, and,
01:47:56
Speaker
I think we need to stand up for ourselves. I do. and i And I think that in a sense that in the trade world, like we need to quit, like, you know, we need to quit infighting. We need to quit caring if women are in the trade or not.
Unity in the Trades Community
01:48:09
Speaker
You know, if they're turning wrenches, you know, you know, hey, you know, you're you're doing the same work I am. I'm tired. Tired of seeing people tell the dude, there's nothing that makes me want to punch somebody in the face more when they say to me, well, would have done it. i just don't have the time.
01:48:24
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yeah Yeah. I dude, I'm just like, you know what? Here's the fucking tool bag. I'm going to sit in the work van. Let me know when you're done. I'll check over your work. and If it's good, I won't charge you anything. You know, yeah like that irritates me so much. No, you wouldn't know how to do Cause it's going to take me five minutes to do this. You know?
01:48:40
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Yeah. um And I just think as a whole, like we just, we got stop and we need to really be, we I'm tired of people looking at us as the lowest of the low. I get return chasers, but if it not for us, like you shall not like, yeah, you shall not use thy throne in thy home if not for us. So yeah anyway, no, I'm with you a thousand percent.
01:49:00
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Well, this was fun, dude. Yeah, man. hope more people will do this. Yeah, i think that's I think that's the point. as I think that's, you know, you're due I'm trying to do it, trying to make it happen a little bit more often and sort of, like you say, build the community a bit and um see where it goes.
01:49:21
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Yeah, definitely. Y'all quit fucking fighting in the comment section too. Just stick to the gay jokes, okay? The gay jokes are fun.
01:49:32
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Gay jokes are fun. They are. Yes. So good. Anyway. So good. Well, I wish you luck, my man. Thank you for doing this. Thanks for reaching out. I know we sort of batted around for three or four months. We should do it again.
01:49:48
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We should do it again sometime. We should. I agree. let's ah let's let's Let's hook up in March or maybe in April. We'll see how your black eye works out and we'll see what happens with the the current – maybe we'll be in a world war by then. Who knows? we Probably. Probably.
01:50:06
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probably Well, either that or we bought Greenland and Canada. We got a BOGO on it. Right. You might have the BOGO on that by that time. That's right. We keep we keep importing chinese the Chinese army over here.
01:50:19
Speaker
That's right. you that right then you Then you get our private health insurance. You'll love it. It's worthless. but You pay a lot of money for it. Makes you feel good until you need to use it, right?
01:50:29
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Yeah. Sometimes. Sometimes. Anyway. All right, my man. Well, all alright but i I hope this helps out and I hope to see more of this. I'm with you.
01:50:40
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Appreciate it. Later. Look after those kids. Will do. All right. Bye for now.