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Odc. 62 – Ten o fandomach
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Zaczynamy od przejścia, jakie dokonało się w ciągu roku – od wąskiego pojęcia superfanów (małej grupy do monetyzacji) do szerszego rozumienia fandomów jako zróżnicowanych społeczności, które nie są monolitem. W świecie, w którym AI może w pięć minut wygenerować wiedzę o dowolnym uniwersum, to nie znajomość lore'u, ale partycypacja i fizyczna obecność stają się nową walutą fandomową. A to tylko początek tego fascybującego tematu. Zapraszamy do przesłuchania całości.
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Introduction to 'Wycinki z przyszłości' and Host Welcome
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Monika Borycka
Dzień dobry, witamy was podcastie Wycinki z przyszłości, a podcast, słuchaj, będąc zakatarzona, więc słuchaj, wszystko zostaje w naturze.
00:00:06
Monika real
Monika Borycka, czyli Trend Radar. Today is a bit of a speech, so my form. I have to give you a little bit of a speech. But... postpo i i not a kija vani a ah
00:00:29
Monika real
Yes, but we also wanted to the I first materialization will be Katowice, Frota, or what we choose to choose from our listeners, what we choose to choose and what we will talk about.
FOCA Festival: Art, Future, and Soundscape Show
00:01:10
Monika Borycka
FOCA, or Forum o Kultur, which is a beautiful name, which called Foczki na Foce. The festival, this forum,
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Monika Borycka
We can go to the
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Monika Borycka
It will be a and and it will be related to the future of art and now, a po soundscape, a show of the of Sylwii Czupkowskiej and BookTech.
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Monika Borycka
And what I of to, a
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Monika Borycka
so i teachhi meton is meia
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Monika real
no and goes more than to guni pian text tohaius for prosttuut taia and nidoti grouppa as vi near near e ko if qua i nashi was attackpom bo tovis sheiana kea je toenski itam torisep tri me The
00:02:48
Monika Borycka
Thank you. Thank you, Mamo.
00:03:04
Monika real
The whole event will also be looking at the future of culture in the Górnośląsko-Zagłębiowskiej Metropolii in the moment of the time of the year of the year 2020, when Katowice and GZM the Polish Stolic Kultury.
00:03:17
Monika real
It's one of the events, in which we can see some more than just a little bit more.
00:03:27
Monika real
So, thank you very much, thank you very much. 10.00, I think we start in the afternoon. We are opening this afternoon, from what I remember. So, you can find out of the hours the media, we will be sharing.
00:03:38
Monika Borycka
Awesome, panel open.
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Monika real
I think that we will talk about the topic today, because it something that is a lot of questions that we recently started to do. And it is your beloved topic, right after horror, which...
Significance of SXSW in Tech and Culture
00:04:04
Monika real
I don't know I'm going to the
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Monika real
But today is the the SXSW.
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Monika Borycka
do do do
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Monika real
will be here to the previous episode, if someone forgot, where is a whole relationship.
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Monika real
v to the osa mo of shida popha nigo chihata butk toha gappu the gujia apple naalatzia Frota, what are we going to
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Monika Borycka
so horrorora Okay, okay, so... Why, why, why, why,
00:05:05
Monika real
of thememp
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Monika real
Thank you.
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Monika Borycka
a lot hu and dehaak keep just for very becky poppeha um So, it's very nice to see you. It was a very interesting thing about South by Southwest. It's interesting to me. It's very interesting thing that South by is a sochewka for technology and culture.
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Monika Borycka
e fandom and following to the
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Monika real
I will be going to be a long time.
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Monika Borycka
just want to say, I
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Monika Borycka
So, it's a small group, from which you are able to take the music producer, as a music producer.
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Monika real
a people.
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Monika Borycka
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Monika Borycka
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Monika real
not nagla show casa
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Monika Borycka
not ihikaa nomanni castsukaek but And like that they were not a It was something to release films for two weeks.
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Monika real
Co dwa, co chyba chciałaś powiedzieć co dwa dni. Bo też wpływ algorytmów na matoags minee she fanome meist bardo is to
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Monika Borycka
so i
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Monika Borycka
To jest w ogóle, zostawmy to na razie, nie psuj, bo to już tutaj spoilujesz totalnie dyskusję. Natomiast to jest dla mnie słuchaj bardzo ważna też taka, czyli dla mnie to nie jest wiedza, bo ja
00:09:18
Monika Borycka
It just happened to me to make fun and are not like monolith. And content
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Monika Borycka
in agreement with with the and ittoist soish so is is and spoiled, is how the fandom,
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Monika Borycka
such as pravak tu ra tutaia tuturaheutai turtesh perusuahi aspolawa mitrechi bot yak ah phomem yakovva gule And this is what we can tell you about this. And if it is something that we can get through case, by the best friend of the ziom, or maybe we can get into this algorithm
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Monika real
so yeah used madam de moak commora ahnaly to know san sheta con is lotupakka test lago de fanome ah establishish attack is to name tema verrosovva dr john se nova just branding gumaro alan youilo bo tazepo prosto zahova ni hocha bemo kutkovniko for
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Monika real
ni be on to theamit ah fanome attack essential va
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Monika Borycka
O, nie będą, nie będą.
Cultural Interactions and Algorithm-Driven Generational Shifts
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Monika real
who are boomers or millennials, and just fans of fandoms. It is a reality that works in the
00:11:39
Monika real
one is a part of and We finally got to gen no jeaii tafuun name ta venum consummonoul tore ta jamaittoalo fragmenta results in narrazi a jetan house to ra shiftrada but sam ofco atatunaic tokov vo kash messi aesthettic albu system still na toyes dominantana na chago function novanas zruniirro zautre charmi e de facto mo me bar aru niach the the of
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Monika Borycka
Po latach, po latach.
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Monika real
interesting context related to data. One of the report of the agency OJV, which says that 90% of young people think that there is no one of the main cultures. That we live very
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Monika real
zmirimifagna prata
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Monika Borycka
Why did he do not have a job?
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Monika real
of ta to the And So news they create their new version and create new versions of which the text taken by mark, and the other ones.
00:14:02
Monika Borycka
But it's also interesting that we have to to, in this, it's ok to say that one thing is not working.
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Monika Borycka
and I think that we have a lot of theories, we have a lot of theories that Tyler Swift is the last artist who everyone knows, even if they don't know. It's a way that it's going to be in the direction.
00:14:38
Monika real
So...
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Monika real
talk i mean
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Monika Borycka
There are totally problems with the problem. You can't get it. For example, in gaming I was like, I knew about every game that comes out.
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Monika Borycka
On PlayStation 1 or Super Nintendo, knew about everything.
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Monika Borycka
Co więcej, even if it's what you love, because I love playing in the game, so can't even move on something, which totally didn't move on. Now I'm not able to be able be able to do what happens in my beloved game, which is Japanese role-playing games in one the games.
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Monika Borycka
I'm not able to able to do this with these fandoms. But Monika, I have a question in sum, is it you belong to any fandoms? Or maybe you're a weird one?
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Monika Borycka
mozza was yestful
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Monika real
nabuhi baum meak povi je butmo ah fipo or sudden here mr soak fatav praza bushot che alsobu to the buulle mayo shedomo with verov frigora v neia to suchmawe and I the
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Monika Borycka
No. Monika is true fan, you know, when you come out.
00:15:51
Monika real
v i so yeah some fan comardo niov vgo attackovium sporto and nuta oliv vito is christ tago yes um baro cor tim shepa comunpo colon of ittoisttachicava is novelva umton sam um data in nevanus guvanco kolanovoschi don some um dona um danoss thegosama gua porto nevana songs national version new demographia ocean ch didn and't pro and such that the of
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Monika real
a about the of and is
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Monika real
No moment budowania tych relacji społecznych w realu, prawda?
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Monika Borycka
Pandemia.
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Monika real
No to
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Monika real
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Monika Borycka
at
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Monika real
is on So, the generation of cultural interactions, cultural moments, which causes this fandom to invite us to this world.
00:19:33
Monika real
So, there are some questions
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Monika Borycka
really liked it, I to the to
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Monika real
to the world.
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Monika Borycka
if There are things that are happening. was wondering if you the a
00:20:08
Monika real
I'm going to take a picture of Ili Malinina and I'm going to take a picture in a good style.
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Monika Borycka
a
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Monika real
anddabra still don know
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Monika Borycka
it's amazing. it's a
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Monika Borycka
na koncerty, wyjazdów na konwenty, że pilgrimage is still devotion infrastructure.
00:21:09
Monika Borycka
with these pictures, these pictures, it's not only that, but business and also of these things, but this is building the through the kind of which are not on and
00:22:03
Monika real
but too much of vogulatas to swive lord bo omon nibu ma danna yes vi shez ru twist allla misla on non ne e taque rospos naval ne in washington so that is lord vola
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Monika Borycka
talk
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Monika Borycka
yeahna biamovvivea
00:22:15
Monika real
<unk>rota da da
00:22:17
Monika Borycka
Lore to jest zbiór wszystkich danych i całej wiedzy o świecie danej
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Monika real
fondo
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Monika Borycka
własności intelektualnej. To allne from chief fund nasis na razie zostajemy przy wersji basicowej, podstawowej.
00:22:33
Monika real
because she's been building, this lore been building, so you need to know that.
00:22:34
Monika Borycka
Aż klapnęłam tutaj rączkami. Tak, czyli... <unk>tan basiclo ah to afka bai cloud laticruev own vini voacbo with all ah pierre she she changed jaianmootti pier she chili or chart deonte shu stay to the kipota over hippota mis na butddo vi vanda kola ne alta potavatoantre vashia to
00:22:55
Monika real
The one hand is also built with but So moments,
00:23:09
Monika Borycka
But is this a lore?
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Monika Borycka
Czy ty pamiętasz wielką imbę, kiedy Disney wykupił Star Warsy i wywalił część fanowskiego loru? Czy ty byłaś wtedy w internecie?
Impact of Disney's Star Wars Acquisition on Fandoms
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Monika real
I was in the internet.
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Monika Borycka
bo zescreepowano, czyli w ogóle wywalono. Disney powiedział, nie, to jest jakaś rzecz robiona przez fanów. Nara... The reason why this is the internet
00:23:59
Monika Borycka
so totoy toto is zafhedo toy zafha this kutovan and yeah
00:24:02
Monika real
I'm talking about the fact that this not necessarily the whole world the world or the kind of about the fact that is in some
00:24:22
Monika real
something They are not a bit like in the Polish fandom, in the Polish lore fandom of
00:24:24
Monika Borycka
Niech moc będzie tobą.
00:24:42
Monika Borycka
So if Super.
00:24:47
Monika real
Exactly. ta mia ab beshpu prosto sa sal ibe itoas vaita ta cavi zataam naurrahi na butav ve na bosavvo them bostavo vo vie zo ta or danim unniverum ah e itois vata schlezaitagoulturovago momentoito paovanna but beaszeka marakchawa very sheto vov kuovvego noto best de ve mo wape paro mogaba just challenge parostoac in itoas takito ne no chea na butats kratoja netonass vaat viha s na se donnago from do muul to no no triul toravi exp expertci viammi shaak muham is what i don rosne inter terresarri yoriktoruk che You the
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Monika Borycka
Great.
00:25:47
Monika real
Exactly. So, I'm just influencer of figure skating.
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Monika Borycka
Rzuć te trendy.
00:25:50
Monika real
But now, I'm just a little bit of connection people who can show you knowledge, but it internet of AI.
00:26:16
Monika real
No, I have not finished.
00:26:19
Monika Borycka
But we will go to the internet internet. There was a lore, but I will have to finish my monologue, which we have to do your influence.
00:26:26
Monika real
attack neith the contourist the
00:26:28
Monika Borycka
I can go to horror, I take it on the table.
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Monika Borycka
ah
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Monika Borycka
na tym forum, to będę mówić, że ona nie jest najlepszą komentatorką. Natomiast teraz wydaje mi się, I also, I think I'm a fan, and I'm a bad teacher.
00:26:57
Monika Borycka
Participation is the thing. So, you don't have to know everything. Because it was like, when you were in the convent, I remember that you were a kid, and you were just like everything, what you were doing.
00:27:10
Monika Borycka
everything that is related to Evangelion, Cowboy Bipopa, Final Fantasy ta dale and on. Now you can just say AI, you can write it in 5 minutes. So now participation engagement, often physical form, is something that you can change.
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Monika Borycka
have
00:27:33
Monika real
I
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Monika Borycka
tovaruz their momsuhait ta home
00:27:36
Monika real
also do this... just do do this...
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Monika Borycka
natila
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Monika real
just do this...
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Monika real
present. to But...
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Monika Borycka
It was a horror.
00:27:46
Monika real
alllataka
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Monika Borycka
there but a kihoro haha
00:27:48
Monika real
ale taka obbesnowier vi cova nottoia sabi businessnemites kimitrandamivoo bodovania ah vipe economy
00:28:09
Monika real
I am there early, maybe for a the just to to
00:28:51
Monika Borycka
like a lata latintic toon be pu fijitaki popo to ta kim nayesh ni who have a good place have concert. same thing, when it comes a starry band, it's also on Pearl Jam, where record them record was
00:29:36
Monika Borycka
who slept three days before the concert, with the whole thing, the whole thing was done. I think that effort, effort, effort is really key to understanding. even effort and effort in the
00:29:55
Monika Borycka
as no effort ehiek vi the bitu vole phic shadirov To lana twist didn throw touch our shabowa ali sotaam shana per momenters are or i need to show the they just we digital yeah them we skin kid blocks like ta dale i like a physician physician artifact the chetoish nihootoumit sa on sa paui e zava ne v fiurkami nauka mitako yet no thatranni the coin seven and jimmymiatusvatomonatarno today is
00:30:29
Monika Borycka
be let physicianly be letna concert yes novel saky yushnez sattanchi visu i um pa the efarukni sobe called the styakishsh collect naki billlet ittojavaov em chinava unish horgan is aorru organizaor eupant sniva meke bilatin abschakana concerti muza mue ta vone maal and i'm just and dova bo opia drkovanni cartoniica collects yoerreki pinam a kdish bo suka naki coneri a ferra but on she's cotu with cheney eam organizaur suramoam which helpha pra v gramafaishia kumatoak but vograta tasmiana
00:31:05
Monika Borycka
te takijaji toa subbi yeah quiage it way persuade to use vinato let verse fu bela ma tagoa a caron butpolua alisttaavvroka itesna pra the taivve artifact artifact to a Maybe there is a a
00:31:36
Monika Borycka
nimala liy no butmo yeah
00:31:36
Monika real
So, yeah get Yes, I think it's also related to second the development fandom, which way world, which what earlier, that a not change, already have well-made, going to say going to going to going going to going to say, say, say, say, to say, going I'm going to going going to say, going say, going to going to going going say, I'm going to say, to say, going to going going to say, going say, going say, I'm say, going say, I'm going to to say, going to say, to say, to say, going to going say, going to I'm going to say, going to say, I'm to I'm going to say, I'm to say, going I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going say, going to I'm
00:32:14
Monika real
act of creation, which are all the other ones on TikTok, some fanfic, and not only consumption, that is...
00:32:20
Monika Borycka
No, właśnie... hu <unk> but sovanteo danno tesh trocha potfi daonantto ivore chicava with the movie ah or fan as creator fannaco fuza fuceni
00:32:50
Monika Borycka
that people are in the way to the anime, and here have a lot of generations, because fan-edity on social media. For the generation Z, it's a 47%, for the millennials 33%, even for the generation 24%.
00:33:09
Monika Borycka
So, watch, twórca one yes did not trena motorim napendovve and deque for me boinina ifoba el lipsim and naappsian shequa and was aim missionian tuurri pop proto spraers a holuttineshpitoas the of and because maybe public commitment will show you, that have to do this.
00:33:35
Monika real
So, we talked about this in the previous episode, can still say that can't even say that.
00:33:39
Monika Borycka
Yes. ah ah fua ah fu sataggofimo zaoha sheer seva danipes The
00:33:55
Monika Borycka
He is a
00:34:10
Monika Borycka
He spent 50 dollars on the looking for distributor and you And said that he was a of the fans.
00:34:35
Monika Borycka
In the moment, what I saw on Bad Office Mojo, Iron Lang was in three, but in thousands of games. Because the and and ah mark popro ne ah film mues rutuit of bardoande which is ru you ah pocasa wasmo na foion spance poetno as ya withmoov watch alettoistic capture of stes cuponja i like i it like He super IP. It's not about
The Power of YouTubers in Event Success
00:35:16
Monika Borycka
Iron Lung. It's about that, that super guy, Mark Pilner from YouTube, has a range of fans. He has probably about 35 or 40 million subscribers. who are able as a fandom, wink, wink, nudge, nudge, to be able to go in the of
00:35:55
Monika Borycka
ah they just
00:36:20
Monika Borycka
There was a place in the first place, it was also a good place for the first place, so it was also a good place the seance.
00:36:26
Monika real
So, the whole ecosystem is built around this, but also notion of this was YouTube, Instagram and Facebook media,
00:36:29
Monika Borycka
Nowe media.
00:36:47
Monika Borycka
no for me A on the bottom, okay.
00:36:49
Monika real
Nowe media, album medi al don ne va o do to take it for jean levi or is But content
00:37:18
Monika Borycka
Totally, I can't think of it.
00:37:48
Monika Borycka
It was probably BTS.
Algorithms vs Traditional Media in Fandom Influence
00:38:28
Monika real
created algorithm as something that can interest them. And no if tens per soup is the tunaif chun ga the dot cover mami yesterday to u two back to the jawa yesterday in the
00:38:46
Monika Borycka
It's a lot of people.
00:38:48
Monika real
ta i let tay tay the rabbibi hall ofrios tutaki rupaammi rich vikish fin yo gondam good yeahavia we pop star watching pts tata like so she's a instrument sta not to left chng non she ku ki akia mana zain terra su yeah no ecola the like But a a and to
00:39:29
Monika real
kogosh kogolu be me albo yes know if i'm in times for yeah but
00:39:34
Monika Borycka
So the algorithm is like a старший brat or a sister or a sister or a friend or a friend. Only Kelly family.
00:39:39
Monika real
Tak, albo MTV jeszcze mogło, albo Kelly Family właśnie, albo jeszcze Hanson, pamiętasz Hansonów?
00:39:59
Monika Borycka
til cokali family know
00:40:05
Monika real
Więc...
00:40:15
Monika Borycka
bo się zaraz nakręcę, bo ostatnio sprawdzałam sobie coś Hansonach.
00:40:17
Monika real
Yes, but I also... also... because son now has a
00:40:20
Monika Borycka
Dlaczego?
00:40:28
Monika Borycka
Czy młody będziesz miał ksywę Hanson do końca życia, wspaniale.
00:40:38
Monika Borycka
Thank you.
00:41:05
Monika real
a
00:41:10
Monika real
but the entire life of this whole thing absolutely kręcony in the cosmos, when it comes to the way in two weeks to be able to be in the future.
00:41:21
Monika Borycka
Compressor, the the on the the
00:41:53
Monika Borycka
I to,
00:41:53
Monika real
Exactly.
00:42:05
Monika Borycka
ted vierrue nava ah nava suhavindo she dish inchlo yeah she thebacha shes the cabin yeah
00:42:12
Monika real
qua yeah
00:42:16
Monika real
But also because of sometimes the the
00:42:47
Monika real
trocha postare moak troa mis sheevervatago and alt mitnego za koanenna back socivaris a phia ala in natra ivoation teia notos shata she butomo griestonulurron vi bu oeso perrosmava we me the e attackigo uscha doionaeler noev dr travis
00:43:02
Monika Borycka
Mm-hmm.
00:43:07
Monika real
funue ah but williamm's a to establish chest of trend ah oppovadano automi beil legitimatean next step back v and if she did entirely mis as rus romania tagoia is mina shown straagicny and abqua viot o camp the chlo chi yeah so she's ah just need a moment a pannania fund move to the stago yeah on a population were like point.
00:43:35
Monika real
Today we are in streaming. It is one thing.
00:43:46
Monika Borycka
constant Constant company. Company yeah kind campania is the new,
00:43:51
Monika real
Some of them are not coming, but we are saying that have a big one from this. Maybe not big, but a big one from this.
00:44:00
Monika Borycka
I think that is a change in the which in the the fandoms and a lot of money. So posteatov do anty tematów albo tematów uzupełniających, więc jeżeli ktoś myślał, że fandom wygląda tak jak 10 czy 15 lat temu, oh boy, jesteście naprawdę na dobrej drodze do wspaniałego researcherskiego miesiąca albo i dwóch.
00:44:43
Monika real
was a little of
00:44:57
Monika Borycka
Nie, no nie jeden.
00:45:14
Monika Borycka
or someone who would be influenced figure of
00:45:19
Monika real
first episode of the series of greats fandoms, which we will probably continue to repeat this year.
00:45:21
Monika Borycka
but that
00:45:38
Monika real
and
00:45:39
Monika Borycka
No to what? You listen, let's to the world, a go to Warsaw.
00:45:42
Monika real
Yes, I will the You are the the the
00:45:45
Monika Borycka
so, so, back the worst of it
00:45:51
Monika Borycka
yeahdona taok fiea magician takego ej
00:46:03
Monika Borycka
I'm going to go Pedolino Gdynia, so if you So, see you soon!
00:46:11
Monika real
Do usłyszenia.