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The NABJ Trainwreck & Embracing True Self in Modern Society

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In this episode of "Unsolicited Perspectives," host Bruce Anthony and J. Aundrea kicks off with Bruce humorously recounting a gym mishap that resulted in his phone's untimely demise, setting a light-hearted tone before diving into weightier matters.

The siblings then tackle former President Donald Trump's controversial appearance at the National Association of Black Journalists (NABJ) convention. Trump stirred controversy by questioning Vice President Kamala Harris's racial identity, sparking discussions on race, identity, and the broader political and societal implications of his remarks. Bruce and J. Aundrea delve into the responsibility organizations have when providing platforms to polarizing figures, offering thought-provoking insights into the current state of media and politics.

In addition to political commentary, the episode explores the evolving landscape of gender and sexuality. The siblings discuss the importance of challenging societal norms and embracing fluidity and authenticity in personal identity. Their conversation highlights the significance of living one's truth in a world that often imposes restrictive labels.

Throughout the episode, Bruce and J. Aundrea maintain an engaging blend of humor and insight, weaving sibling banter with reflective dialogue. They also announce exciting updates to their show schedule, ensuring listeners stay tuned for more of their unique perspectives. #nabj #donaldtrump #sexuality #CulturalConversations #UnsolicitedPerspectives

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Chapters

00:00 Welcome to Unsolicited Perspectives

00:54 Sibling Banter and Gym Mishaps

01:27 The Headphone Dilemma

03:33 Phone Troubles and Verizon Visit

06:39 Childhood Memories and Tough Jeans

08:07 Show Updates and Grad School Plans

18:36 Trump at the NABJ Convention

36:12 Black Journalists' Criticism

37:32 Republican Party and Black Voters

38:45 Trump's Racism and Political Impact

46:25 The Role of White Privilege

53:00 The Burden of Identifiers

58:30 Challenging Societal Norms

01:03:13 Gender and Societal Expectations

01:07:19 Human Potential and Limitations

01:10:00 Final Thoughts and Farewell

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Introduction to 'Unsolicited Perspectives'

00:00:10
Speaker
Welcome. First of all, welcome. This is Unsolicited Perspectives. I'm your host, Bruce Anthony, here to lead the conversationally important events and topics in the shape of today's society. Join the conversation and follow us wherever you get your audio podcast. Subscribe to our YouTube channel to watch our video podcast. Rate, review, like, comment, share, share with your friends, share with your family. Hell, even share with your enemies.

'Sibling Happy Hour' Theme and Topics

00:00:33
Speaker
On today's episode, it's a sibling happy hour. I'm here with my sis, Jay Andre. We're going to be dilly-dallying a little bit. Then we're going to be talking about Trump. And then we're going to be talking about sexuality. But that's enough of the intro. Let's get to the show.

Gym Mishap and Humor

00:00:54
Speaker
What up, sis? What up, brother? I can't call it. I can't call it. I can't call it. I can call one thing. What's that? Getting old sucks. Yeah, yes. I know this has been a reoccurring theme over the summer, but I'm going to continue on with this theme because it's continuously sucking. Let me explain. If the theme continuing with you, you continue with the theme. Repeat that for the people out there. I said, if the theme continuing with you, you continue with the theme. Right. Okay. So.
00:01:29
Speaker
My headphones are bigger than what they should be. And it becomes very difficult for them to stay on my head when I'm in the gym working out, because I got a ball of head. I don't have any hair to stop the sweat. So they'll routinely fall off my head if I'm doing certain exercises. Ah, so you mean your head is too small for your headphones? I don't really think that's the case. I think my headphones are just big and I don't have no hair. I think the headphone sizes are pretty universal. Tomato, tomato, anyway.
00:02:08
Speaker
ah but stay I was doing this well particular exercise and I was on the incline bench and every time I sat up, my headphones kept falling off my head. So I was getting annoyed by this. Typically when you were doing something on the incline bench, you put your dumbbells on your knees and you put your feet on the ground. It's kind of like a spot, a self spot, right? and I was routinely doing that. I got so tired of my headphones falling off of my head. Every time I did that, I said, the hell with this. I'm going to just drop the weights by the side and then sit up so my headphones don't fall off my head. Because the whole thing is I'm annoyed that my headphones are falling off my head. Yes. Well, when I decide to put the weights by my side, all of a sudden I hear a crunch. Mm hmm. Drop the 60 pound dumbbell on my iPhone. Yeah.
00:02:56
Speaker
Now, I dropped it on the front screen, so I look at the front screen, and there's no break in the glass. Mind you, I also have a case protector. So I'm like, what happened? I forgot. Because there was a crunch. There was a crunch. I forgot. There's glass in the back of the phone. So I flipped the phone. Sure enough, all of it is cracked. I'm like, that don't make no sense. but the phone is still working, so I'm happy. I'm like, you know what? It's in the protector sleeve or whatever. It still works, I'm all good. Okay, so I want to keep

Podcast Schedule Changes

00:03:31
Speaker
moving. Nobody has to know. 30 minutes later, I don't get any cell service. The phone is searching hard for some cell service. So I come home, I text you. Hey, you get this text? Yeah. Why? Because I have an iPhone and I'm using the Wi-Fi so I can get,
00:03:49
Speaker
text messages and phone calls from iPhones, but I'm not getting any text messages from anything. It's not an iPhone. So I'll run up to the Verizon store. Mind you, don't have no car. It's a mile away. It's hot. And I just finished working out and I'm pissed off. Okay. So that's like the trifecta. Right. You're just being aggregated. You're hot. You ain't got no car. So you got to walk outside and you just finished working out and you made it. Yeah. Physical activity and heat. That's, I don't need nothing else to have a hell of a day. Right. So I go in the Verizon store and I immediately go up to the brother and I'm like, Hey brother. He was like, Hey man, how can I help you?
00:04:35
Speaker
I said, hey, brother. He said, yeah, hey, man, how can I help you? I'm like, now no, I don't understand this this back and forth. I said, drop a dumbbell on my phone. How heavy was the dumbbell? I was like 60 pounds. He was like, ooh. Yeah. Okay. ah Let me see what I can do. So I'm going to give credit to the brother. That feels irrelevant. How heavy was it? Right? If it's a 15 pound dumbbell, maybe the phone isn't completely destroyed. Anything ah heavier at a certain point, like pretty much it's going to be destroyed. All I gotta do is see that back glass to know that the phone has been destroyed.
00:05:08
Speaker
Well, he says, yeah, I see the black back glass has been messed up, but you're still getting the Wi-Fi signal and your phone is still being receptive. Let me do a couple of things to see if I can't try to make the cell signal connect. And my man, bruh, man worked on it for a good 35, 40 minutes. Yeah. Couldn't get it to connect. He was on life support and he had to go to work. And then he opened the SIM card and he was like, oh, this is it. He's like your receiver, your antenna, your cellular antenna has been damaged. He was like, we can sit here and wait for a while, see if the signal comes back. I was like, what are my other options? Get a new phone. Yeah. So had to get a new phone. Was mad because my old phone was completely paid off. But got a new phone. It is what it is. The new phone is fancier.
00:05:57
Speaker
But I nice immediately bought a new case. Yeah, yeah. I have now like a ah tough case on it and I don't even care if my phone doesn't look cool. Like, you know, it's like, oh yeah, pretty case. say that Okay, is that gonna save it from me? Is that gonna protect my phone from who I am as a person? And the number of times that I'm going to drop it. No. Gone get you them heavy duty cases.
00:06:32
Speaker
And that glass screen protector. me You let that crank. You know who you sound like right now. Who? Mom, because yeah when we was younger, she used to give us those rough and tough sturdy jeans. Because we'd be outside playing in jeans and always get holes in the knee part. And we're like, well, no, we don't like these jeans. These have the nice designer jeans. Ours with denim. Like, y'all don't have to be able to understand. Those raw denim. Those are the most unforgiving. You can't squat.
00:07:07
Speaker
it Y'all don't know nothin' about Lee James or Hugo Boy James. The raw denim jeans. That denim weighed 173 pounds. and it did not give. I always thought I was slow. Come to find out it was just them jeans weighing me down. I couldn't race nobody in them jeans. We had the strongest thighs in third grade.
00:07:34
Speaker
Yeah, it didn't make no sense. I've been in that one field day, because I'm out there in them tough jeans, them double jeans, the jean jeans, 15 pounds, and I only weigh 85. Right. I can't move. and Oh, why y'all thighs so strong? Where these jeans? Yeah, these jeans. That was our childhood. What's going on with you? what What do you want to tell the we're all before I had it here and the rundown and completely was about the daily, daily right past it. Ladies and gentlemen, we want to give you guys update on the show. We're doing a little switcheroo. ah My sister is starting grad school schedule is changing. So the sibling happy hours will start to come. Well, starting next week.
00:08:22
Speaker
This is the last Friday sibling happy hour. The sibling happy hours will be coming out on Tuesday. And then my own show or the show with the interviews will be coming out on Friday. Still release the shows Tuesday and Friday. They just flip flop. Just flip flop. That's just flip flop. So y'all gonna get me on Tuesday. Yeah. Right. And y'all gonna get double bang, right? Because y'all getting a sibling happy hour. I don't know if I love that.
00:08:48
Speaker
ah yeah
00:08:52
Speaker
Oh, as Cameron Mason would say, whoa. um you said You said it. I said it, but that's not, y'all getting back to back episodes yeah of The Sibling Happy Hour. So y'all gonna get one Friday, which is today, or whenever you're listening to it and get another one on Tuesday, so y'all getting back to back Sibling Happy Hour. We're just changing up. Y'all still getting my sister, because she says she would never leave her audience. That ain't really what she said. She said, you tricked me into doing this, Bruce, and now I'm stuck. She was right. There's a little from column A, a little from column B. Listen, I am stuck, but I enjoy it. So I said, how can I still be a part of the show now that my schedule is becoming a little different? So he just said, we're just going to flip-flop, and that's all.
00:09:46
Speaker
I am literally, though, going to drop the with Bruce Anthony in the title of the podcast because this is the reason why. I am very grateful for every guest that comes on the show. yeah But they're always like, really glad to do a show with you and your sister. I'm like, no, that's that's not what's happening. I'm interviewing you. My sister's not going to be on that show. Oh, OK. Wherever you are, I can come on another time after we do our show and with your sister. I was like, I don't know how logistically that's going to work because my sister love to talk. Actually, I love to talk. And I can't really talk during my interviews. So I am very good. Well, I don't know how good I am at interviewing because I've never done it before. But I assume because I have a false sense of self that I'm very good. if you
00:10:40
Speaker
I'm just going to say, let's run with that. I think that would be good. at it i do I'm not saying that you wouldn't be good. I don't know how logistics work with three people. I've done an episode with three people. why those Granite it was one of the earlier episodes that I ever did. But it is tough to juggle that somebody has to be the moderator. Yes. And so there's like, OK, well, I guess I'll just be the moderator. And then that sucks because I don't want to be the moderator. I got something to say. I mean, but that's how it is, though. When you turn on the news and you see them talking to multiple guests, the host is typically the moderator. Yeah, I know. That sucks, OK? I don't want to do that. That is the whole premise of your show. No, that's not the premise of my show. You are the host, and you are interviewing guests. Yeah, you know I don't mind that, but I'm talking about it. You are the moderator. no No, I don't mind. No, I'm the interviewer. That's different than being a moderator.
00:11:39
Speaker
When you have more than one guest, you're moderating at that point. I only moderated one time, and I didn't like it. But that's what I'm trying to say. I was hosting and moderating. That sucked. Because I'm sitting there, and it's like, oh, this question is for you. Or I would just leave out a question, and two people would talk over top of each other. It becomes very difficult. It does. Well, you that's when you say so and so, and then you have the question. So the person knows that you're talking to them. Well, one, also you ain't got no time. Okay. So it's not like an interview is going to take up a sibling happy hour and there'll be a revolt if people don't get a sibling happy hour. So the choice is we get you once a week. It's the sibling happy hour, not on the interview. Right.
00:12:30
Speaker
That's just what it is. Yeah, I agree. And that's what it is, guys. But I am going to drop it with Bruce Anthony, because everybody always asks for you to show might as well just be unsolicited perspectives with Bruce and Jay.
00:12:44
Speaker
It's just unsolicited perspectives. No, I didn't already made logos. With Bruce Anthony. Just keep it. Just keep it. Yeah, my favorite my favorite podcast, one of my favorite podcasts is the Dan Lebretard show yeah with Stu Gotts. I mean, so it's just unsolicited perspectives with Bruce Anthony and his sibling Happy Arrow with Jay Andre. or Maybe I just should change the name of this particular episode. and say it's unsolicited perspectives, The Sibling Happy Hour. That's probably what I should do and create a new logo. It's not a different podcast. Still under the unsolicited perspectives with Bruce Anthony family, but it's The Sibling Happy Hour. That's what I should do. You just love it in real time, ladies and gentlemen. That's how ideas are born. That's how ideas are born, ladies and gentlemen. That's how we do production in this. Right, gentlemen.

Jay's Excitement for Grad School

00:13:36
Speaker
Are you excited about starting grad school? I am, I can't, I've been, honestly, I've been on the edge of my seat this entire summer ever since I got accepted because I'm excited about the subject matter and just to start something new. So i've ah this is literally the first time in my life that I've in 40 years and I've ever been excited to go to school because I've never been excited to go to school. oh ah So just the just the idea of doing something new, I think, is it's just really exciting for me. That's really dope. um But I got to ask your question you a question. You've never been excited to go to school? Not even the first day of school when you put on your new fit? No. What about going to college the first time? No. Because honestly, it you know in our household, it was a requirement.
00:14:32
Speaker
What, going to school? Yeah. I mean, I think that's in anybody's household. It's a requirement. No, going to college. ah Was it a requirement? I just thought it was. No, I think mom and dad. oh I'm sure we felt that way because they had gone to college, right? Yeah. But if we had come up with a different plan, mom and dad has always been super supportive of what we wanted to do. They just wanted to make sure we had a backup plan. That's true. And back in the day, it was like you go to college to get a degree so that you can get a job to go to work. Now, I mean, college is still important. I think it's important for your personal development as a person to leave the nest and go immerse your we your world in a world that that that you didn't know existed and meet people from different walks of life. I think that's how we kind of solve this human problem.
00:15:25
Speaker
of people just Oh, you mean by learning? Yes. yes but but I would say yes. for the like yeah If you would like to grow as a person, you should start with learning. Right. But i don't think I don't think mom and dad was just like, you gotta to go to school. They were just like. um for I don't know. I felt like it was like, okay, I had to go. um Or like go to the armed services or something like that. Which none of us doing that. Yeah, I did. Yeah, I did think about that. um About the Air Force, actually. So what was that war? No, you remember the towers fell my senior year of high school.
00:16:11
Speaker
I'm like, oh, so you would have started the ROTC plan program like before that, before senior year, you would have started like junior year or something like that. Right. Most of the people in my senior class that enlisted, they did it the summer before your senior year. So they had all signed their paperwork and then we start school on September 11th. Mm hmm. next day, you know, we're at war. And so that was my class. hit that you yeah okay So I did think about that, but it was just yes, but college undergrad, just it was a slog for me like I just
00:16:48
Speaker
just drag through it. I got through it, but I just kind of dragged through it because my heart really wasn't in it. But now, I don't know, I feel like it's just making this decision on my own and studying something that really interests me. I'm very interested in data science. So um it just feels different. And yeah, and I'm excited. I'm excited for a new chapter. You know, you know how black women are. and We get complacent. You get a degree or an LLC. I should, have agree that I should copyright that and sell that and then sell that at the next essence. I

Trump's NABJ Convention Appearance

00:17:29
Speaker
i eight Because they would sell out. They would sell out at the Essence Fest. They would sell out your first... Why? Because? Because I know business. I ain't sure. I know business. Matter of fact, when is the next Essence Fest? I'm gonna start making up these shirts. Essence Fest is always July 4th weekend. All right, well, next July 4th weekend, I'm going to have them shirts and be out there selling them. Right after my 45th birthday, I'll be like, hey, sporty young brother turning 45. That young brother turning 45. Why can't I be a young brother turning 45? Young brother, almost 58.
00:18:16
Speaker
Oh, well, this is a perfect segue. Because speaking of black people and conventions. And nonsense. Well, that too. Trump was at a black convention yesterday. If we go talk about it next.
00:18:42
Speaker
So Jay, you sent me a text message earlier today and was like, we gotta talk about this. And I said, it's already on the rundown. Don't even worry about it. We was on the same page. We was on the same page. And I'm interested to hear your thoughts on it. But for the audience, they were like, what the hell are y'all talking about? Well, if you've been living under a rock, and maybe you have, or maybe this just isn't in your wheelhouse, the National Association of Black Journalists, or the NABJ, is a nonprofit organization that advocates for Black journalists and media professionals in the U.S. and worldwide. Founded in 1975, the NABJ provides innovative programs and services to its members, which includes emerging journalists, professional journalists, student journalists, journalism educators, and media professionals.
00:19:27
Speaker
The NABJ's mission includes strengthening ties among black journalists ah Black journalists and media professionals, promoting fairness in the workplace for Black journalists, expanding job opportunities and providing professional development, increasing the number of Black journalists and management positions, honoring excellence and outstanding achievements by Black journalists, encouraging Black students to pursue journalism careers, and the NABJ also hosts an annual national convention and career fair, which is one of the largest in its kind every year. This, I think, is always in Chicago. It features workshops, panels, special events, all that. They extended an invitation
00:20:14
Speaker
for Donald J. Trump, the former president to have an interview for all these black journalists. Now, just a little aside, I heard from a black journalist that typically this interview was done on a Wednesday that typically, um, The majority of the black journalists don't come until Thursday night. So this was strategic in having this interview done on a Wednesday where there wouldn't be as many black journalists there because there was a little hoopla over the fact that he even got an invitation. I'll get into that later. Yeah. Let's talk about.
00:20:55
Speaker
what he did during the interview. So former president Donald Trump was recently interviewed by the NABJ annual convention in Chicago. During the interview, Trump made controversial comments questioning Vice President Kamala Harris' racial identity, asking, whether she is Indian or Black. The fifth sparked criticism and further discussions about race identity in politics. Let's go about, let's let's focus on him questioning Kamala Harris's racial identity. Trump questioned Vice President Harris's racial identity identity, asking whether she is Indian or black or Black. He falsely asserted that Harris was Indian all the way, his words, Indian all the way.
00:21:36
Speaker
And suddenly his words became a black person, but that's not how he said it. He said became a black person. That's that. That was how he said it. This has been widely criticized in his attempt to undermine Harris's identity and qualifications. This is a continue. a not attack, I wouldn't say it's an attack, fair criticism of accusations of racism against Donald

VP Harris's Racial Identity Controversy

00:22:04
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J. Trump because his comments have been seen as racially insensitive and have initiated accusations of racism against him because these are racist comments. His remark about Harris's heritage and his history of making inflammatory statements on racial issues have drawn significant backlash
00:22:23
Speaker
The response from the NABJ members, the decision to invite Trump to the NABJ convention was a controversial one from the start. Some NABJ members expressed concerns about giving him a platform and one member even stepped down as co-chair of the event. The interview itself was intense with Trump accusing one of the black moderators of being very rude. Now he wouldn't want me to be a moderator because We know I don't even like being a moderator in the first place and I would probably be very rude. He also said something about the January 6th rioters. Trump had stated that he would absolutely pardon those convicted in the January 6th attack if they were innocent. I don't even know what that even means. um So Jay, before I get to some of this other stuff. Yeah. You wanted to talk about it. Yes. I gave people the whole background.
00:23:19
Speaker
go. So you remember, I don't know if it was last episode or a couple of episodes ago, I said that his biggest fear, Trump's biggest fear as a black woman. Yeah. but Okay. I remember that. This is exactly why this interview was everything I knew it would be if ever he was sat across from a black woman who is able to ask him questions.
00:23:57
Speaker
yeah yeah Like I knew it was going to go about this well. And the Trump campaign people could not get that man off the stage fast enough. Yes, that is true. They rushed him off the stage relatively quickly. Yeah. He immediately, immediately was racist. I didn't know she was black until a couple of years ago when she happened to turn black his thaty did say that those words where down on immigrants stealing quote unquote black jobs. He immediately, he could not help himself. There are things, there are policy,
00:24:46
Speaker
ah positions that Vice President Harris may have held or whatnot that you could definitely interrogate. He was not prepared to have a policy debate though with anyone. yeah yeah Certainly not with VP Harris. So all he has in the chamber, okay, only thing that's in that clip, Black woman, black woman. That's the only thing he's got. Not black woman, not black woman. Not black woman. yeah And then the audacity, because he is not the only one to do this. I've seen this talking point several times on conservative media. The audacity of white people who are the inventors of race. This is white Americans. Let's be clear. White Americans are the inventors of race. Yes. Right.
00:25:43
Speaker
to then tell us who we can consider part of our community. There has never been a point in time where Kamala Harris has not been a black woman and proudly so. Never a point. She is a graduate of Howard University. She is a member of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority Incorporated. So just to be clear for the audience out there who don't know what those two institutions are, Howard University is an HBCU, you historically black college, yeah and AKAs. They were the very first black sorority. They were over 100 years old. Yeah, part of the divine nine, black sorority. yeah Yes. yes um Any time that she has been asked, she says, I am a black woman.
00:26:40
Speaker
Proudly. That is never, but she is also an Indian woman. Hey guys, first of all, let me tell you a little, give you a little history on black people in America, particularly descendants of slaves. That's who I'm talking about. Descendants of enslaved people. Well, technically, okay. She is descendant of slaves, but not descendant of slaves based in America. Right, but yeah let listen. that's That's when you're trying to harp on. Yes. Because she's her father is Jamaican. Right, which is a nationality. Which is a nationality. It is not a race. Her father is black. Yeah, her father is black. Okay. Black people are not indigenous to Jamaica. This is true. They got there one way.
00:27:31
Speaker
One way, yeah. The oddly damn way. And that's through the transatlantic slave trade. But a little something ah about a good majority of people in America who are descendants of slaves. We are multiracial. and We have biracial and multiracial family members or we are ourselves. Like we, That's part of our story here in America. You see how light-skinned my sister is? You see how pigmentally challenged I am. That'll come from nothing. If y'all are listening, pop on to the YouTube. You'll see how bright she is. I used to call her blowworm back in the day. It's in a book. Johnna's light skin. Like, that's who we got, OK?
00:28:26
Speaker
That's part of our story. So when we see people like Barack Obama, e Mariah Carey, Alicia Keys, Kamala Harris, who we know within our community that those are black people. Montel Jordan. Because this is how we do it. Right. but I don't know what Montel Jordan had to do with it. it that I thought it was a funny name to throw into the mix. Oh, cause I don't. It had nothing to do with it. I don't even think it was anything. But you know. At all, but that's all right. Um, so for, for them to make that sort of appeal, I guess, to black people of like, is she, is she, is she really one of you? You don't get to decide that. You don't. You truly, truly don't.
00:29:23
Speaker
You think you do because you invented race, but you don't get to decide who we consider part of our community. um It was a train wreck and I couldn't look away. And it was absolutely fantastic. But there's there's very much more. It was not that long. They got them off the stage as soon as they could. twenty minutes was a good thirty minutes It was supposed to be much longer than that. And it would have just continued going downhill yeah ah even further. But that is not the only highlight
00:30:00
Speaker
From that interview, his attacks on her race, there are yeah so many other highlights. Go ahead, run through them. Oh, I thought you were about to do that. ah No, I'm talking, I was going to talk it about how the response of the NABJ Oh, okay. Got you. Um, yeah, I think you hit, I think you hit a lot of it. Um, he made the tax on her race, uh, starting there. He went asked if he thought
00:30:34
Speaker
she was a DEI hire, or would he challenge other people in the conservative party who have been calling her a DEI hire? He got very aggressive with the interviewer and asked her to... asked her to define DEI. She said diversity, equity, and inclusion. He's like, yeah, define it. She's like, I just did. That was hilarious. It was hilarious. It was hilarious. yeah yeah he said She said, do you think she was hired because she was a black woman and that's when he launched into
00:31:09
Speaker
her being, he thought she was Indian and now she's black and all of that. So that was a lovely ah highlight. um When he doubled down on black jobs and then was pressed on what a black job is, he said, a black job is anybody with a job? Yes. well Which made no sense. No sense. He also doubled down on his claims that he has done more as president for black people than Abraham, lincoln since Abraham Lincoln. Yeah.
00:31:41
Speaker
and he I mean, there's this there's this guy, you know, my favorite president, Lyndon Baines Johnson, who actually did the most for black people in this country. Signed some pretty important legislature. We had, oh, I don't know, the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Fair Housing Act. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. What you did about those? Yeah, yeah. Those are, I forgot, oh, Lord, what president was it before Johnson, who desegregated the military? Oh, I have no clue. I'm going to Truman. yeah Yeah. So, you know, some pretty ah pretty much presidents there. I, i he has yet to give us examples of how he's been the best, best president to the black population since Abraham Lincoln, when all of the evidence is to the contrary. So don't know how,
00:32:39
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he he He noted that the crowd, there there's quite a few black journalists in the crowd, which got a nice laugh, had a nice laugh, considering the fact that it was all black journalists. You're at the National ah yeah Association of Black Journalists. Yeah, I would imagine there's black journalists there. Matter of fact, every journalist there is black. chances are there's gonna be some black journalists there. yeah that's what i'm going That's what I'm thinking. Did they not give him a rundown before he went on stage? I think when the National Association of Black Journalists asked to interview Donald Trump that his camp should have said no.
00:33:35
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I don't think anything can't he can't say no. He cannot can. I mean, yes, theoretically. Yes, absolutely. He can. Or literally, absolutely. He can theoretically. No, he cannot. Because it's like, oh, you won't go speak to black journalists. It just further. He's not done it so far. What? Yeah, but he's trying to appeal to black voters. You know, they got they got a group out there. They got a lot of you know blacks for Trump. I even saw a group called the N-word for Trump. Yeah, of course, there's going to be listen. I never heard that one before, but I saw it on social media. There's a group that calls themselves the N-words for Trump. And I'm just like, wow, we're not a monolith.
00:34:27
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We're not, you know, I was walking in my neighborhood the other day ah near my little restaurants and shops. And right outside of this restaurant, there was this couple sitting, it was a black man and a white woman, young, you know, I'm gonna say in their mid 20s, black man with a Make America Great hat on. And I, you know, me being me, I scribble a little bit, because I'm like, say or do something stupid, so I could punch you in the face, because, brother, come home. what right Like, come home. Not because you're with the white woman, you know, because I don't mind that. It's because you got this Make America Great hat again, and I just don't feel like that you understand what exactly is going on.
00:35:07
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Let me get into NABJ's statement for this. So the National Association of Black Journalists did issue a statement following the controversy surrounding former ah former president Donald Trump's interview.

NABJ's Decision to Host Trump

00:35:21
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NABJ expressed disappointment with Trump's comments and emphasized their commitment to provide a platform for diverse voices and perspectives. They reiterated their mission to advocate for black journalists and media professionals and to promote fairness and equality in the media industry. The organization also acknowledged the concerns raised by its members and the broader community, and they reaffirmed their dedication to foster a respectful and constructive dialogue.
00:35:47
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Like I said, the feel the full interview is just under 35 minutes, and y'all can go ahead and check it out. But the reason why they had to make these statements is because there were a lot of Black journalists that was like, why are y'all giving them this platform? Why are you platforming this man? and Which is a fair criticism. So much so that the co-chair for the event stepped down and was like, I can't be a part of this. Now, I have mixed feelings about all that. I thought this was a chess move, not for the National Association for Black Journalists. They weren't doing it for nefarious means, but if I was a political
00:36:28
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I don't know, operative. And I'm going against Donald Trump. I really want him to be at this convention to do exactly what he did. The reason why I say that is because the people that are diehard Trump supporters, this, they fed into this. They love this. I saw some comments on social media saying he was at a DEI convention, which they're just going to be people out there that believe that and think that you're not going to change their mind. You can't beat them in the head with sense. They are who they are. They're going to be his supporters. They're never going to change. Surprisingly, there are still some undecided voters. And I say surprisingly to others, it's not surprising to me. And this is the reason why I say this. The Republican Party are about certain policies that believe it or not, a large portion of the black community could actually get behind, right? Because a large portion of the black community is technically really conservative.
00:37:28
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Yes. Okay. Church-going conservative folks. Really conservative. Okay. So the Republican a Party is missing the boat on black voters because they harbor so many racists in their party. What do I mean by racist? Look at the organizations that back him, back them. whether it's the pre Patriot Front, or the Proud Boys, or even David Duke, the former Grand Wizard of the Ku Klux Klan ran as a Republican. Anything that has to do with being racist or anti-Semitic, that groups associates itself with Republicans.
00:38:07
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But there are some people that still believe in that limited government, capitalism, um ideology of the Republican Party. They hold on to that and they vote on, well, this person isn't the greatest person, but at least they'll fight for my policies. The reason why I say that this was brilliant in the staford standpoint of those undecided voters who can't stand Trump, but will vote for him because he at least is going to stand up for their policies, now have to have a clear come to Jesus moment because he has completely shown himself to be, you can't deny it even if you want to, a racist. Yes.
00:38:50
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He's leaning into every single dog whistle, and not even dog whistles anymore. He ain't whistling. He's barking him. Yeah. And, and, and I don't think he's doing it purposefully. I think these are his, these are his actual answers to these questions. Oh yeah. No, this is what he truly believes. Yeah. I mean, you're just seeing him revealed in real time. but the the The play, the con, is not what he's saying at a convention like this. The con is when he's going before the the Christian or the Southern Baptist convention and and espousing that he's this deeply religious person, when he's never he never expressed that. People seem to forget, before Barack Obama joked on him at the House Correspondent Dinner, he was a Democrat.
00:39:46
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His entire life. He donated to Kamala Harris's campaign. Right. So this this turn has switched much like JD Vance because- Very much like JD Vance. If y'all didn't know JD Vance didn't believe a lot of the stuff that he's believing right now. How do we know? Because his best friend when he was in college was a transgender person. And there are emails that are specifically stating where he stood on social issues, and he was on the other side of the fence. He jumped on this side of the fence because it's convenient. And he could play that role. Yeah, you could just take his words for it. I mean, he was a proud Nefertrumper. There's tape. You can just take his own words for it. Just take his own words. But like I'm saying, going back,
00:40:34
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I think this is brilliant because for those people who are just like, look, I vote for Republican because Republicans policies are what I believe in as a person. No, I don't like him. But Democrats and their policies are completely against what I believe in. And I'm not even upset at those people because they believe that the country should be a certain way from a policy standpoint. And I'm like, OK, we just fundamentally disagree on what's better for America. But At least you had that conviction in what you believe. And like I can rock with that. OK. But them having that crisis of conscience, voting for Trump. And then making excuses, well, he's not really racist. Why would you say that? Because I've talked to some people who have voted for Trump. He's like, why would you say that he's racist? Because this, this, and this. Well, I don't know this racist. Right now, he's showing you. Yeah.
00:41:28
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Pretty clearly. fit Yeah, pretty clearly he's racist. Yes. At the very least, he's extremely bigoted. And there is a difference. There is a difference. but yeah Both of them. but But when you have presidential power, yes you can say racist because then he can he has the ability to disenfranchise. Yes, he does. So i I understand why a lot of black journalists, some of them have come out and spoke, some of them who I really really respect has said like this was offensive because they were they're a part of that organization yes yes i think from a political and strategic standpoint this was fantastic i can i was cringing and laughing at the same time because this this is what you want look you can't deny it anymore it's a it's a net pot it's a net positive for
00:42:19
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VP Harris. like it wasn't It was not strategically brilliant for Trump and his camp. It was the stupidest move that they could have made. this was just yeah In a time where there are so many in conservative media begging him to stop with the racial and sexist attacks, to talk about literally anything else. um This was a terrible move. I just don't understand who, because he was informed beforehand who the panel was and that it was going to be tough. No, he got to choose who was gonna be on note on that panel. And he knew the questions before he walked out there.
00:43:14
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So, the fact that he felt like this was all coming out of nowhere, I mean, his his response to the first question, which dug in, shout out to, let me, oh oh oh gosh, I can't remember her name. Rachel Scott, I believe she's with ABC, came out guns blazing, and ah asking him directly about racist comments that he's made in the past and currently, and he immediately, I think he called her nasty and rude, and he didn't even say hello, and and you know that that old deflection thing that he does. whicht got hello deuced Well, was Well, he was. I'm just joking. I'm just joking. First question. First question, yeah.
00:44:01
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Yeah, I think it's fair that just because it ended up turning out well for the Harris campaign doesn't mean that it was still a good idea for the NABJ to invite him. So I definitely understand Uh, how some of the journalists feel, I think it's valid. I mean, this is a kind ah sex offender and a convicted felon. And why are you giving him a platform? Like that's fair. Just because it was the train wreck that we all knew it would be, and it was ah wonderful to watch, doesn't mean that it was a good idea. So I think that's fair.
00:44:42
Speaker
I also think you better than me because you say you can understand people who will still vote for him because... No, no, no, no. That's not what I said. Let me clarify that. That's not what I said. Because I was about to say you better than me. No, I know. That's not what I said. What I said was as I understand people who lied Republican and had voted for him because they do it strictly from a policy standpoint. Let me give you a clear example. I was talking to a friend of mine, and this person is a friend, right? And we laugh and joke, and and and some of our conversations are absolutely hilarious and probably should be taped and put on air. Because when we get together, there's just funny stuff going on. Yeah. And he said to me, wouldn't it be great if we had a time machine it could go back in time? I said, how far back in time? He's like, yeah, what if we can go to like the 1800s or something like that? I was like, um I'm not going. Oh, by the way, I dropped the lead on this one. He's white.
00:45:39
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um I was like, yeah, i'm not i'm not I don't want to go back then. He's like, why? We could just go back in time and see how things work. Yeah, I don't want to go back then. He's like, why? do I don't understand. We can go back. I was like, bruh. And so I started like showing him my hands and my arms and stuff like that. I'm black. Yes. oh Oh. Yeah. I didn't even think about that. I said, that's the height of white privilege. What? Yeah. That's the height of white privilege, because you don't have to think about that. No. I can only go back. Maybe to the 70s, like a choice. And a choice. And I really don't want to do that. Honestly, the furthest I would go back is probably 96. Like, that's probably the furthest I would go back. At the height of bad boy? At the height of bad boy? No. I know. OK. But the point I was trying to make is, is white privilege will, and people get, white people get so upset when you say white privilege. It is a privilege. We all have different privileges. I have a privilege as a male.
00:46:36
Speaker
yeah right but I have a privilege as a male that I see and move in certain ways that women are just like, I can't move that way. I can't yeah go that way. I can't go down that road at that time. We all have privileges. Acknowledge it and quit taking an offense to it and just be like, oh, okay, I do have it. But that doesn't mean that I didn't accomplish, and that I didn't put work in to accomplish where I got. I just got some help. There's nothing wrong with that. Just acknowledge it. So sometimes the white privilege can just blind you. Like my male privilege can just blind me from stuff that females or that women are dealing with. Yeah. White people can just be blinded. it's It's kind of on us to point out he would have never understood until I had to
00:47:21
Speaker
damn there, beat him in the head. No, bro, I'm black. I don't want to go back to that time. right So what I was saying was is that a lot of people, a lot of these people that were voting for Trump, some were voting for policy and that they could overlook the bad stuff that he was doing because he was getting the stuff that they wanted done. And they could always excuse his comments and say, well, he's not racist because if if they had voted for a racist, what does that say about me? You have to be introspective in that moment. and A lot of people don't want to do that. Now it's in your face. You can't make excuses for it unless you're just unless you just want to make excuses for it and that you can't help those people. So that's not what I was saying was I understood how some Republicans had voted for Trump at this point.
00:48:15
Speaker
If you vote for Trump, you are recognizing that you are supporting racism. And this was a clear example of him showing his hair. He's been doing it since VP Harris has come out and started running for president. He's been doing it. But here's another very clear example in a room of black people when they say that there's all these black voters for Trump. Here he is, and he couldn't even dollar down just one iota. None. So if you vote for them now, you just support a bigotry and racism and you gotta take a look in the mirror. No matter what your policies or what you think is better for this country. You gotta take a look in the mirror.
00:49:06
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All right, Jay, for this last segment, you sent me a video that I thought was extremely interesting.

Discussion on Fluid Sexuality and Identity Freedom

00:49:11
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And I don't know if you sent it to me just from, hey, what do you think about this? This is interesting. Or, hey, I want to talk about this. But I immediately was like, I want to talk about this on the show. yeah So I'm going to let you take the lead on this one. You're going to be the the host in this instance. Well, ah this is coming out of Out magazine. and ah Everybody knows there's a Fresh Prince reboot called Bel-Air on Peacock. And in the fifth episode of Bel-Air, Ashley Banks, who is played by Akira Akbar, is talking to one of her sister Hillary's friends, who is an influencer who specializes in sex positivity.
00:49:51
Speaker
And so this is an exchange that they have, and luckily we we can't play the clip, but we have the transcript, so I will be acting both parts. No, I'm just going to read it. I'm not going to act both parts. But Ashley asked Hillary's friend, do you think the future of sexuality is fluid? And she responds, I think the future of sexuality is fluid. I think coming generations won't torture themselves when they define their behaviors. Some people may spend one stage of their lives as heterosexual and another as asexual and even another as maybe homosexual. And so Ashley asks her, so is it worth it to make these distinctions at all? And she responds,
00:50:36
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only if those distinctions serve you. Some people feel that sexuality defines them, you know, as a person, others don't, you know, but both camps are totally correct. And I i thought this was a really interesting um perspective that I totally agree with. And I kind of had this feeling for a while that as we start to get more and more specific about how we identify And as the acronyms get longer and longer and longer, as more people start to really drill down and how they identify
00:51:16
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um I think that the story is that it is impossible to encompass all of the ways that people can show up in the world, that the acronym will continuously get longer and longer and longer and longer, and and that the whole point is that we can't be ah qualified or quantified like that, that ultimately um the breadth of human experience
00:51:49
Speaker
is going to ebb and flow over time. You will be one thing at one stage of your life. You'll be something else at another stage of your life because we're constantly changing and evolving as people anyway, as we grow older. And so there's no way for you to have been the same person at 20 that you are at 30 that you are at 40, et cetera, et cetera. It just depends on, and because the circumstances of your life The point in time in your life in which you're living is completely different from the circumstances of your life yesterday. Why? Because this is a completely new day when new things happening to you and new experiences. And so I just thought that was interesting and I wanted to get your take on it. I believe the greatest oppressor of humanity are
00:52:42
Speaker
identifying qualifications, identifiers. and Let me expand upon that. The worst thing in this world that I've ever been labeled is just a male. Everybody's gonna be like, what the hell are you going, Bruce? Follow me. Because my favorite color is pink. And growing up as a male, Pink can't be your favorite color. Pink didn't become cool in the male community until Cameron had the bravery to wear pink, yeah right? um That females have to be soft and delicate. That if you are stern or driven like my bestie is, that somehow that's not feminine. And somehow you are less than a woman.
00:53:40
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If I love to groom myself, who keep my head shaved, you know, maybe get a pedicure or Medicare, that's not masculine. For a lot of people out there, they have been stuck in this category of being heterosexual.
00:54:07
Speaker
And just now over the last 30 years, it became okay, sort of, to be homosexual based on society's perception. In other words, there's still legislation out there that's trying to hold ah ah the LGBTQ plus community down. And as you said, that has grown longer and longer over time. yeah The greatest oppressor are these identifiers, because they come with stereotypes of how you're supposed to be, as opposed to you being your true, and as my man Rick Clemens would say, authentic self. yeah Sexuality. I am a heterosexual cis male. I identify as he, him, and I love the ladies. I've never been attracted to men, but I can honestly say,
00:55:01
Speaker
when a man is attractive. yeah Back in the day, you couldn't even do that. You had to do it in kind of an underneath dig tone by calling him a pretty boy. Now you could just say, that man is attractive. I'm not attractive to him. That man is attractive. right That doesn't make me anything other than what I am. right But other people are like, yes, that man is attractive and I'm attracted to that man. That woman is attractive and I'm attracted to that woman. That transgender male is attractive and I'm attracted to him. That transgender female is attractive and I'm attracted to her. Why are you restricted?
00:55:47
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with who you are attracted to because that's natural. Who you are attracted to is who you are attracted to. You ain't got no choice. If I had a choice, I would have been attracted to all the women that I know would have loved me and took care of me and treated me like the king that I that that i don't deserve to be, but that they wanted to treat me as. I wasn't attracted to him, which I could have been, tried to, just not. Yeah. As our beloved late uncle would say, I like what I like and people like what they like. We need to stop trying to put these identifications on what people should be and just accept them for who they are. And I hear this. I'm going to and you know, we're going to get this on YouTube. People are going to say, well, stop pushing your lifestyle on me. Nobody's pushing their lifestyle on you.
00:56:34
Speaker
Literally not. Matter of fact, why don't you stop pushing your lifestyle on them? Because heterosexuality dominates our society. Yes. Right, dominates it. What does that do for the people that are homosexual? Well, it's not natural if it's not natural, then why do they feel that way? Right. but That's the most natural feeling in the world. ah track like yeah Attraction. like You can't control that. If you can't control it, you would, but you can't. You can't control what you like and what you don't like. I don't like broccoli. There's nothing that you could do to broccoli to make me like it. I don't like it. yeah You can dip it in in in chocolate no and have Alicia Keys feed it to me.
00:57:22
Speaker
yeah I still won't, well, I might. But that's neither here either must be nor there. That's neither there nor there. But I can't stress enough that these identifiers are the great oppression of a person. And I can honestly say that because I know so many people that are part of the LGBTQ plus community that have gone through hell just being them. Yeah. How would you feel if all you wanted to be was you and you couldn't be you because society is telling you the you that you are is wrong. I'm gonna.
00:58:03
Speaker
I'm gonna, well, I've not disagreed. I'm gonna challenge you a little bit, so. Okay, here we go, all right. We going in overtime, folks. We weren't supposed to put this along, because we doing back-to-back shows, but okay, challenge me, because I'm trying to grow. Yeah, so I don't have any problem with being a woman. I actually love it. I wouldn't want to be a man. Ooh, no. i I love being a woman, and it is, ah Just as me being black is a part of who I am, me being a woman is a part of who I am. Me being identified as a woman does not disenfranchise me. The problem and the issue is with society. And you touched on it, you touched on it. It's not it's not the name, it's what's associated with it. Yeah, that's and so what are you challenging me on? I'm not real clear.
00:58:59
Speaker
to let go of the issue being the identifier and start challenging the systems that are in place that constrict people under whatever, you know, identify. do Do you understand what I'm saying? So yeah it's not personally, i I have. And I, and I think ah if I didn't make that clear, that's what I believe. I'm saying, I think you're saying the same thing. Yeah. I'm saying it's not, it's not the name. It's not the name that's do like, it's not being identified as male that is keeping you from, um,
00:59:43
Speaker
like displaying the whole breadth of your personhood, it is patriarchy. Yes. However, we are saying the same thing. We are in it. Yes, I think we are. This is one of those weird times where we're agreeing and debating at the same time. Welcome to our world, ladies and gentlemen. I think it's a semantic issue. It's a semantic issue, and you're going with, yeah, society's problem. I'm saying yes, it's society's problem. It's society's problem because they ah they say this identifier is what you should be. I'm not saying that people have to adhere to that identifier because I am a prime example. You know me. I got pink everything. Yes. I wear pink now like there's nobody that's going to stop me. I'm saying that the society doing these identifiers are oppressing people
01:00:36
Speaker
to be their authentic self. And it's up to these people who want to be their authentic self to just say to hell with it, I'm going to be there. But there are still some people that are still closeted. and still hiding themselves. Maybe because they're in one of those flyover states that that go their evangelicals, their family's deeply religious, don't believe in it. They don't feel like their family would accept them. Maybe their family would, maybe their family wouldn't because there have been cases of these deeply religious families saying, I love you no matter what. yeah Because that's what Jesus,
01:01:13
Speaker
would tell me to do. right Because that's what Jesus with telling the dude because they're a follower of Jesus's teachings. I have always hated that. I've always hated that response of like, I love you no matter what, because what the implication is. Yeah, I didn't, forget look, I'm not a great owner. No, that is the response, like that's yeah people who, well-intentioned people are like, I love you no matter what, like the the implication is that there's something
01:01:47
Speaker
that there is that is unlovable about me. right What I'm telling you is all of the things about me are lovable. Yes. And so I agree. I'm saying the problem is with society. Yes, we agree on that. That's these restrictions that society is saying you're this, that way you should be this. And where we're not that. We've never been that. And it's call us people, especially men, who have always had the highest suicide rate between the genders. It's caused men who couldn't live their authentic self. And I'm not saying that they were a part of the LGBTQ2 plus community. I just screwed that all up. I've been having some drinks, ladies and gentlemen, and I'm a bit nervous right now. It's the happy hour. Yeah, I'm a bit nervous right now because
01:02:41
Speaker
I'm just trying to focus. It could have just been like, hey, I wanna dance. What do you mean dance? You mean like square dance? No, I wanna do ballet. why Why can't I do ballet? We don't do ballet. We don't really even dance. Well, I like ballet. what I wanna sing in the opera. We don't do that here. That's not very manly. I want to. This is for me and my generation. I want to be in theater in high school. Yeah. No, that's not what we do. We're jocks. We play sports. yeah I can play sports and be in theater. I want to go in the theater. I want to go act.
01:03:18
Speaker
No, we can't do that. I'm mad at myself for not being an authentic person and combating against it and going against the way when everybody calls me the natural contrarian anyway, but there was a limit to where I would go. Right. And I'm saying society and its labels have done that to people. And some people, it becomes so overwhelming to not be their authentic self that they unalive themselves. So this is not the labels, it's the systems. Yes, but the systems create the labels. That's what I mean. The systems create the labels. Right, but I just want the focus to be on that. Even when we start to talk about doing ballet or liking pink, we need to interrogate why we consider those things inherently feminine. Why do we even consider those things feminine? Who decided
01:04:15
Speaker
that a shade of red that is a little paler, you know, this like, you know, a little bit more white with mixed in, whatever the Pantone number is. raising Who decided that that was feminine? Money decided it because there was a point in time in our society, in American society, where little boys could have the color pink. Yeah. And somebody decided, no. Blue is masculine, pink is feminine. And we still pray. It's so arbitrary. And we still do it today for the baby reveals, no matter how we evolve as society, we are still- I'm doing a gender reveal. Yeah, please stop doing it. Stop doing it. You're having a whole but party about your kids' genitals. It's weird. I don't care. It's weird. It is weird. It is very weird. But but I hope I came across this with yeah clear,
01:05:14
Speaker
what I think about this. I think this conversation in this episode was brilliant. And i this is another reason why I love Gen Z. because they are asking these questions. they are The majority of them are not living in any type of darkness or any type of closet. They are being, the majority of them, they're authentic selves, or at least trying to discover what their authentic selves is. And that's our entire search in life.
01:05:50
Speaker
yeah is to continually find out who we are because we are constantly evolving as people. And I love when she said that, hey, one stage of life you might be heterosexual, next stage of life you might be asexual, next stage of life you might be homosexual. And guess what? I know people who have who have done that. Yes. I know people who have been heterosexual and then asexual and you're just like, wait a minute, you haven't had sex in 10 years? No. And then the next thing you know, they're with somebody of the same sex. And he's like, this feels right. I'm like, okay, live your best life. yeah and And honestly, if you're happy, I'm happy. Who wants to rain on anybody else's happiness just because it's different from the way you live? That's weird. That's weird. That's weird to care so much about other people
01:06:38
Speaker
that you feel like they can live a life that that you're that they're living because it's different from your own. That's weird. Yeah. Focus on yourself. Yeah, I think the whole the whole purpose and point is that um people are infinite and limitless and are capable of incredible things. I mean... We're not limitless. I think that we are. I think we have the capacity and the potential to be... We've been to outer space. Yeah, I know, but I can't... You know, like, we continue to grow. I can't become Superman, so we're not limitless.
01:07:20
Speaker
Limitless in our human potential. Well, I agree and disagree, because, like, you know that old expression, if you work hard, you can achieve anything if you work hard? That's a lot. That's not true. na No, no, no, no. limitless in our potential in our human potential okay he as a as a species. Okay, right. No, I mean, yeah, I agree with that. I'm not talking about every individual person is going to be a rocket scientist. That's obviously not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about human beings have limitless human potential. Yeah, human potential, not Kryptonian though. Well, because that's a made up thing that doesn't exist.
01:08:01
Speaker
No, krypton is ah Krypton is a real element in the periodic table. Well, Kryptonite is. Krypton is not. Actually, it's Krypton. It's Kryptonite. It's Krypton. The element is Krypton. The element is Kryptonite. You want to pull it up on Google right now? i This is how we go yeah was in the show? and Because I guarantee you, it's Krypton. And I don't know how to spell it. It's K-R-Y-P-T-O-N, Krypton. I know how to spell it. You know why? Because it's an element. Because I was in chemistry class my junior year, junior year of high school. And I was like, hey, wait a minute. Krypton, that's an element? And you, and, and. Yeah, it is. I think I'm right. You're right. I know I'm right. I know I'm right. OK. OK. Relax. OK. You are correct. No. I'm just confusing it with the fake ass element, kryptonite. Well, kryptonite isn't even an element.
01:09:01
Speaker
Well, whatever the heck it is. well Because I don't know nothing about it. It was a radioactive piece of the planet. it's not It wasn't an element. Where's Neil deGrasse Tyson when we need a Neil? We don't come on the show. Literally, that's our dream. I don't know if people know this, but I feel like that's our dream. That is our dream. yes And ah Bruce, if you don't invite me to that interview, I will murder you. That's the way booking the show. Gee, what do you want to tell the people out there?
01:09:33
Speaker
oh if If labels serve you, use them. If they don't, don't. Yes, because that's exactly the point that that that she was making in the video. Yes. Both are correct. You're right. Yeah. If you want to identify as something or if you want to identify as nothing, you're right. Be authentically you. I want to thank everybody for listening. I want to thank you for watching. Until next time, as always. preach freedom over fa
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