13. Predator

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Speaker: Hello, I'm Ryan and this is You Are Not Watching That.

Speaker: Well, actually, it's You're Not Watching That, but we'll say You Are Not Watching That because it's the same sort of thing.

Speaker: It's a podcast where I'm finally catching up with all those films I should have seen, but my parents, they wouldn't let me.

Speaker: They just flat out wouldn't let me.

Speaker: Go and see David Bowie, but don't see that film.

Speaker: This week, I've watched an absolute cultural colossus.

Speaker: a big boy in the pantheon of 80s iconic films.

Speaker: We are yet again in 1987.

Speaker: Seems to be every year we do.

Speaker: It's 1987.

Speaker: We're back with Arnie, but this time we're on a mission to find a missing diplomat or some shit like that.

Speaker: Or are we?

Speaker: It's time to avoid any triangles of red dots, have a huge rippled bicep handshake, smear myself in mud, and finally watch Predator.

Speaker: There we go.

Speaker: And joining me to watch Predator.

Speaker: is a man who's once been described in the past, I'm no doubt, as a predator.

Speaker: I'm fudge.

Speaker: I've got no comeback for that because I can't argue it, if I'm honest.

Speaker: You know, I was young, I needed the money.

Speaker: There were different times.

Speaker: There were, you know, tumultuous times.

Speaker: Did you ever own any predators?

Speaker: In what respect?

Speaker: I used to have a cat that used to like killing mice and rats and dropping them on my groin while I was watching the television.

Speaker: So I guess so, yeah.

Speaker: The football boots.

Speaker: Oh yeah, no.

Speaker: No, same.

Speaker: Same, because when they first come out in like, what, 95 where it was, I thought, God, they're fancy.

Speaker: And then they were dead expensive.

Speaker: And I was probably rocking some Nike Tiempo's or something like that.

Speaker: The Romario edition.

Speaker: The classic fold over tong Nike around the back in white.

Speaker: But yeah, they look fancy for me.

Speaker: And then, yeah, by the time they got fancier and probably cheaper, I just, I wasn't playing football anymore.

Speaker: What were you, a standard Puma King kind of guy?

Speaker: Stuart Pearce?

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah, Puma King, David Hurst every time.

Speaker: And then I was like you, though.

Speaker: The Nike Tiempo's came in and I was all right.

Speaker: I was done.

Speaker: That was me.

Speaker: Fine.

Speaker: Forever.

Speaker: They were just a classic boot.

Speaker: For those of you who don't like football, sorry.

Speaker: But the Nike Air Tiempo, especially around the 94, 95 period, again, it was a white tick on a tongue, white down the side and just Nike.

Speaker: Not only a fancy shit, no fancy colours, just white studs, I think.

Speaker: Away you go.

Speaker: Easy, wasn't it, no?

Speaker: Yeah, that was it.

Speaker: That's all you wanted, wasn't it?

Speaker: That's all you needed because bear in mind, I was a centre-back.

Speaker: I couldn't have white boots as a centre-back.

Speaker: They shouldn't have even made them in my size.

Speaker: I was going to say, they weren't really available, were they?

Speaker: I remember, I don't know if I've told, if I've told this story, do you know what?

Speaker: I've got a feeling I have, so I'm going to tell it.

Speaker: The one about the Panther football boots, I've definitely told you it, but I don't think I've told it on the pod.

Speaker: If I listen back and if I haven't, I'll tell it sometime football comes up again.

Speaker: But yeah, Stuart PSB, one of my heroes as a kid, looking what basically looks like an absolute psycho, hence the nickname Psycho.

Speaker: Just used to wear some, he used to wear the old Puma Kings, just a big white tongue and just going through.

Speaker: I saw a clip of the day when he tackles Roberto Di Matteo in Le Tournoir.

Speaker: And I must admit, there's nothing wrong with the tackle.

Speaker: It's fairly beefy.

Speaker: There's nothing wrong with it.

Speaker: It's not a foul.

Speaker: It's just in the six yard box.

Speaker: Last man, Psycho comes flying in.

Speaker: thighs looking like two tree trunks.

Speaker: Di Matteo looks like he can't see for the next sort of five minutes.

Speaker: He's hobbling around the pitch, just sort of going, what the fuck has just hit me?

Speaker: You know, things were different, weren't they, Dan?

Speaker: They were just different.

Speaker: Again, it was a tumultuous time.

Speaker: There was a lot happening.

Speaker: Peter, Peter Atherton to discuss.

Speaker: Yeah, no, he's not off for discussion unless you've got a funny story where you've once fell on him in a service station in Shrewsbury.

Speaker: No, I just watched him back off a player against Everton once and they stuck one in right from the halfway line.

Speaker: It was the worst thing I'd ever seen.

Speaker: Jesus, Pete, sort your shit out.

Speaker: So much been going on this week.

Speaker: I mean, for me, I've had, it's been the other half's birthday.

Speaker: So just done big night out Friday, tried to survive Saturday, Sunday meal with the family.

Speaker: And then Monday did a load of shit around London for her.

Speaker: So it looked fun, actually.

Speaker: You had a full on Agatha Christie theme to it, which I thought was quite cute.

Speaker: I kind of like that.

Speaker: I mean, tell us about that day.

Speaker: Yeah, I haven't seen films from the 80s, but I'm down with my 1930s literature all over it.

Speaker: You know what I mean?

Speaker: Um, I was just always like Pyro and a bit of Miss Marple.

Speaker: It used to be like the Sunday TV stuff in the eighties, watching Joan Hickson and all that.

Speaker: And, um, probably randomly used to spend Fridays with me, grand and granddad, uh, most weeks when my mom would be like, yeah, go and have a bit of time with them.

Speaker: Um, and it's just sort of stuff that was always on.

Speaker: It reminds me of safety and home and warmth and shit.

Speaker: Always liked it.

Speaker: You always get a murder.

Speaker: Sometimes you get a bit of a tax evasion, not as good.

Speaker: We like to see a stabbing in a library personally.

Speaker: Um,

Speaker: you know, as we mentioned about Tintin, I kind of like those, that kind of era, that kind of thing.

Speaker: Natalie's kind of got into it.

Speaker: We watch it all the time.

Speaker: We'll be there.

Speaker: Back in the day when it might have been, should we get down the boozer every two minutes?

Speaker: It's now like, should we rack on a pyro and have a cup of tea?

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Oh, God.

Speaker: Long gone are the early days in a relationship, right?

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: We've been doing that fairly early doors, I must admit.

Speaker: It's always just been like, you know, when you might have found that person who probably just suits you because it's like, look, I've been a bit of a crazy bastard in my time, but I'm just, I don't want to admit this because this, yeah, oh, thank God.

Speaker: I've been looking for that too.

Speaker: Can we still go crazy sometimes?

Speaker: Yes, you can.

Speaker: One of those.

Speaker: So that's how that works.

Speaker: So yeah, all went well.

Speaker: She's a year older.

Speaker: I've hit some boyfriend points, I do believe.

Speaker: What about you?

Speaker: And it'd been up to much, any much going on in the world of other podcasts, football, the world of bars, bar in Albanians or anything like that.

Speaker: I, I spent four days on the piss.

Speaker: Like last week, I was a proper wanker last week.

Speaker: So Thursday night,

Speaker: went out in London, went out for a meal, had a glass of wine, which turned into seven and four beers, and then a couple of Tio Pepes and a Limoncello at the end, four.

Speaker: I was an asshole.

Speaker: I was an asshole.

Speaker: Then I met some of my old school friends that I've known for like 30 years.

Speaker: And it was one of them, Stag Do.

Speaker: So we met the day before.

Speaker: The Stag Do was on the Saturday, met the day before.

Speaker: And we had like a pre-Stag couple of beers.

Speaker: I was in bed by half past one.

Speaker: Absolutely stinking.

Speaker: Like, I ain't got that drunk in a while.

Speaker: Like, you know, just shooting the shit.

Speaker: Lost like 10 hours of our life.

Speaker: Yada, yada, yada.

Speaker: So I then went on Saturday to Ascot Racers.

Speaker: Now, Ascot Racers is just a knobhead affair.

Speaker: full of knobheads.

Speaker: You'd already said last week there was no sock policy, but you still managed to, and I didn't want to ruin the day, so I knew I didn't know how your day was going, still managed to dress like one of those wankers, though.

Speaker: Oh, yeah.

Speaker: It's got a waistcoat, kind of white shirt, lads, lads, lads, lads.

Speaker: Oh, yeah.

Speaker: So, you know, the, I think they're called mince trotter types.

Speaker: You know, the ones with the no socks and the loafers types who still managed to get in with no socks.

Speaker: I took the dress code far too serious.

Speaker: I was raging because now I knew it was full of those wankers, but now I've got a, you know, like a visual aid for it.

Speaker: So we've got there, we found the nice little pog, you know, we're all right, we're fine.

Speaker: And we were in the bit in the middle of the track.

Speaker: Now, bear in mind, I can't tell you, it was the hottest day of the year, right?

Speaker: At this point.

Speaker: It was warm.

Speaker: It were bloody warm.

Speaker: And I've got shirt, waistcoat, jacket, and chinos on with socks and shoes that I could not walk in.

Speaker: And these shoes I've worn a number of times, right?

Speaker: But I'd swollen up.

Speaker: Like I've just, you know, the heat has been on your feet.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: I had the whole thing like I'd been on a flight.

Speaker: So I had to walk to the first aid tent and have them sliced down the top just so I could get my feet in them.

Speaker: By the end of the day, I've got burnt face.

Speaker: I couldn't speak.

Speaker: Stop, Dan.

Speaker: You had to go to first aid for them to cut your shoes.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: How old are you?

Speaker: What has happened?

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: It's been a moment you were sitting there going, if this had happened to Raz, I'd have out on this for about fucking three years.

Speaker: That's a happened to me kind of shit story, that one.

Speaker: What has happened to you?

Speaker: No, I tell you what it was.

Speaker: It was one of them things where I might go to that first aid tent just to cut my shoes.

Speaker: And it got to the point about four hours in where the lads went, just fucking do it, Dan.

Speaker: You're doing me heading, which is what I'd have said to you after a while.

Speaker: You know what I mean?

Speaker: And I kind of went, yeah, I'm doing my own heading here.

Speaker: And I tell you what, they had one of those young eager boys that's into first aid.

Speaker: So he's come in and I've gone, listen guys, I'm dying of death and they've got this lovely air con unit.

Speaker: So I'm trying to pad my words a little bit.

Speaker: You know what I mean?

Speaker: So I've gone, listen, pal, can I, is there a chance?

Speaker: Listen, it was really odd.

Speaker: And I'm just padding away, padding away.

Speaker: And then I went, look,

Speaker: I'm going to be honest with you.

Speaker: I want you to slice my shoes right down the middle, just so it widens them out.

Speaker: And a guy really quickly reached for his belt and pulled out one of those, you know, multi tools that all the backstage crew had, you know what I mean?

Speaker: A leatherman.

Speaker: And he's just gone to town, right?

Speaker: He's bent the tongue back and just gone to town.

Speaker: And I went, Oh, that's amazing.

Speaker: It was the greatest feeling of my life.

Speaker: And then continue to sit there and had a bottle of water.

Speaker: I missed two races.

Speaker: And then when one bet all day, and then we got back at like 10 o'clock at night and then we went out and you know what, it's one of them and it's a stag do and we're now in our forties.

Speaker: So it's like, God, we're just doing this just cause it's a stag do.

Speaker: Cause I'd be in bed two hours ago, at least, you know what I mean?

Speaker: You know, part of it where you want to revert to the old school stag do just going, we go to the local, put the world's to right, have a few swirls done.

Speaker: I mean, at least you weren't stuck in fucking Marbella up a hill in Poland or something.

Speaker: Yeah, I mean, do you know what?

Speaker: I'd have preferred that because there's a weird thing about when you're abroad on a stag do, you've got the pool to sit around, you can cool off, you can have a nap.

Speaker: And me and my mates have got a rule.

Speaker: If you're hungry, eat.

Speaker: Right.

Speaker: And this is a really important rule.

Speaker: Now it works for everything because you know, like on some side dudes where it's like normally rugby knob heads where they're like, well, you've got to do a bum funnel and then, and then you've got to drink with your right hand and then you can only do cocktail drinking past 10 o'clock, you know, that type of shit.

Speaker: Right.

Speaker: And so we just don't subscribe to it.

Speaker: So when somebody sits there, you know, let's say you're walking around town, right?

Speaker: You're walking around and you go, and one of the lads goes, there's 10 of you and you don't want to be that guy, do you?

Speaker: So you go, Oh, look at that.

Speaker: They look at that kebab shop there.

Speaker: And he walked past further down.

Speaker: Well, there's a steakhouse here.

Speaker: And then further down, there's a pizza shop.

Speaker: And he points that out.

Speaker: You go, are you hungry?

Speaker: Do you want to get something to eat?

Speaker: I can't deal with it.

Speaker: Right?

Speaker: This may shock you.

Speaker: It's your rule that you've made everyone implement.

Speaker: Yeah, essentially.

Speaker: And I've got, look, if you're hungry, eat.

Speaker: Like, you're a grown-ass man.

Speaker: Now, unless we've booked that, you go out for a steak dinner if you're out for three or four days, you'll have a steak dinner, you know what I mean, you'll chat.

Speaker: Fine.

Speaker: But the rest of it, if you're hungry, eat.

Speaker: Same goes for if you're sleepy, sleep.

Speaker: You know what I mean?

Speaker: Sleepy nun.

Speaker: Yeah, if you're not tired, that's a joke you just said there with no reference to it.

Speaker: I'll have to come back to that, right?

Speaker: Which one?

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: So we've watched, well, I've watched a film.

Speaker: I'm sure you probably saw it with a load of wrong-uns in Sheffield or something near a tip back in 1988.

Speaker: But yeah, so it's, as always, it's The Things I Knew Before.

Speaker: The things I thought I saw, the things I knew before.

Speaker: Okay, so this is probably one of those films where,

Speaker: why I probably did the podcast because it was things I knew of but didn't understand you know I'd seen this I mean faced bastard everywhere I'm probably going to bleep that out but I've seen him everywhere I've seen him with his it looks like Reggie Blinker and just you know I've seen him all over the shop what?

Speaker: It looks like Reggie Blinker that took me a second to work out the process you were going through there but now I get what you mean Clarence Seedorf Christian Caranbu

Speaker: You know what I mean?

Speaker: Dreadlocks.

Speaker: Stop it.

Speaker: So, yeah, he looks like all those people.

Speaker: That's way better than the thing I first said, which I will actually put a bleep over so you can guess what it was.

Speaker: So, yeah, obviously, I saw the creature or the predator in a lot of places.

Speaker: And I knew of the computer games.

Speaker: I knew he'd taken on Alien at some point.

Speaker: I don't know why the fuck he was doing that.

Speaker: apparently alien predators a thing and also one of the other things I knew before I guess I can't really count it as this because I didn't know it was this was that was the gif of the biceps I thought it was from Rocky I had no idea it was from this film but I've seen it all over as I'd say what about you Dan again what's the story

Speaker: next door round at Paul Barton's eight years old, shouldn't be, shouldn't be watching this movie.

Speaker: Hey, my dad's got this on video.

Speaker: Do you want to come around and watch it?

Speaker: And I tell you what, that, that bit right at the end where you see, where you see the predator's face haunted me for years.

Speaker: Cause he screams for no real reason.

Speaker: It's just, well, come to that in why he does it.

Speaker: But yeah, it's, I can't imagine this one at the age of what you must've been like eight or something.

Speaker: You shouldn't have been watching this.

Speaker: Nope.

Speaker: There's a lot going on here that you shouldn't be seeing.

Speaker: Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.

Speaker: Especially the skinning and the spinal columning and all the rest of it, you're like, what am I watching?

Speaker: I didn't know a body could be skinned until eight years old.

Speaker: I mean, we'll come to this.

Speaker: I don't know if they are so obviously bin skinned.

Speaker: They do look like rubber sausages in a tree, but...

Speaker: you know, as you see the flailing, which is the official term for that.

Speaker: But yeah, so any bits of your tip, bits of your stats and what is being known as the Dan Fudge section and needs a proper theme tune.

Speaker: But yeah, what have you got?

Speaker: It made 98 million worldwide in its first run.

Speaker: It made 60 million quid.

Speaker: It was going to originally be called Hunter, and then he changed it to Predator.

Speaker: Alan Silvestri, who did the Back to the Future and the Forrest Gump music, did the music on this movie.

Speaker: And like I mentioned last week, Jean-Claude Van Damme was the original Predator.

Speaker: And I told you last week that the reason that he wasn't the Predator through the rest of the movie was

Speaker: was that he was annoyed that you couldn't see his face.

Speaker: But it transpires, it wasn't that.

Speaker: It's because he was too short.

Speaker: And because you had people like Arnold Schwarzenegger and Jesse the Bonaventure, it just looked ridiculous.

Speaker: So they needed somebody taller.

Speaker: So replaced him with Peter Hall, who then got a cameo as one of the helicopter rescue crew during the movie.

Speaker: Oh, really?

Speaker: So the Predators actually also fly in the chopper, one of the choppers?

Speaker: He's actually in the chopper.

Speaker: I'll tell you what, side note, being a child of the 80s, Raz, the voice of Optimus Prime, a guy called Peter Cullen, who did the Optimus Prime in a cartoon and the most, the recent Michael Bay movies, et al, did the alien language for this movie as well.

Speaker: It's not really, he doesn't speak a lot though, does he?

Speaker: No, not really.

Speaker: And the clicks are pretty useless if you're a stealth predator, but I'm sure we'll get into that.

Speaker: Yeah, because he basically copies a lot of people.

Speaker: He's a bit like a parakeet.

Speaker: Do you have any family members who own a parrot?

Speaker: No.

Speaker: My Uncle Chris has had one for bloody years.

Speaker: It's quite a magnificent bird, but I'm also slightly scared of it.

Speaker: Do you remember that ropey pub in Skegness that used to have a parrot?

Speaker: And what you don't need near an exotic bird is pissed up 20-year-olds that work at Butler and Twamley at a time resort.

Speaker: No, I just, I respect them because obviously they are, yeah, because it's a bird.

Speaker: I think it should fly.

Speaker: I don't know why.

Speaker: But anyway, it seems happy enough and it can do theme tunes.

Speaker: And that's the thing is people can't help themselves.

Speaker: They go, hey, watch this.

Speaker: Watch this.

Speaker: You'll like this.

Speaker: Oh, no, that's it.

Speaker: He does the thin blue line, which no one's watched since.

Speaker: That shows you how all that bloody bird is.

Speaker: What, the Rowan Atkinson one?

Speaker: Yeah, he does the theme tune to that.

Speaker: That's right.

Speaker: So let's get through the film itself.

Speaker: So you start off with a bit of... Why are we doing 1987 again?

Speaker: Was 87 just a thing?

Speaker: Was that like the zenith of effects versus stories that we got through?

Speaker: I think there must have been something changed.

Speaker: I mean, effects-wise, I mean, what was Ghostbusters?

Speaker: 86.

Speaker: So that must have broken a few moulds.

Speaker: And Back to the Future was 85, 86, wasn't it, as well? 85.

Speaker: Yeah, so I feel like there's been things moved forward, but obviously this was the start of Arnie's career, and this is where there was a big appetite for these huge, you know, misogynistic, jingoistic action stars, as it were.

Speaker: I was trying to think of this actually when you were speaking, but I didn't mean to look you up.

Speaker: Running Man is earlier, isn't it?

Speaker: I think so, yeah.

Speaker: I think this one came out at the back end of the year.

Speaker: But he had a big year, didn't he, Arnie?

Speaker: Well, what else was in 87?

Speaker: What, just what else is in 87?

Speaker: Well, I mean, for him, this is the year my sister was born.

Speaker: Running Man's the same year as Predator.

Speaker: He's done both films.

Speaker: He's been a busy lad.

Speaker: Although I argue that he's got a bit more acting chops in this one, but we'll come to that.

Speaker: That's going to be on the t-shirts, isn't it?

Speaker: We'll come to that later on.

Speaker: Excuse me.

Speaker: I just last night decided it was a good idea because it's been hot, hasn't it?

Speaker: As you said, when you're in your suit.

Speaker: It's a bit of a soda stream.

Speaker: My sister got me.

Speaker: Took a bit of Vimto in it rather than the actual standard syrup because I ain't got any.

Speaker: And it's made a fantastic retro adventure back to the land of Vimto that's fizzy.

Speaker: Just I haven't been there for a long time.

Speaker: That's one thing that always eluded me, a SodaStream.

Speaker: In fact, Paul Barton used to have one, right?

Speaker: And we'd go around and he'd make a go, do you want a SodaStream?

Speaker: And I used to think, oh, yeah, that's really cool.

Speaker: And then they've come out recently again, and they've been around a couple of times, like the yo-yo.

Speaker: And there's like a lot of effort.

Speaker: You know what I mean?

Speaker: You've got to buy the syrups.

Speaker: You've got to buy the gas.

Speaker: You've got to do the fucking work.

Speaker: And you're like...

Speaker: Is this worth it?

Speaker: Is this really worth it?

Speaker: Mr. Frosty, I always wanted one, but I remember my mum was right when she said as a kid, it's a lot of mess that.

Speaker: Because when you saw them on the car boot sales the summer after and they were just stuck to shit with all the crap in it.

Speaker: And what I'll say with SodaStream is back in the day, they were the cheap version of the pop that your mum and dad probably thought was expensive buying Coke or Pepsi, whatever it was.

Speaker: Okay.

Speaker: They're actually the official ones with it now.

Speaker: So it's just a case of water in there, two paps on that, throw it in the top, spin it upside down, you're done.

Speaker: It is no time at all.

Speaker: But anyway, away from that, let's talk about the spaceship that's coming in in the first shot.

Speaker: What's going on here?

Speaker: A bit of space.

Speaker: And then straight away, we've got a chopper.

Speaker: And we can see Carl having a booze as well, can't we?

Speaker: Weather, sorry.

Speaker: It's just having a bit of a booze in the corner.

Speaker: Carl, nice to see Apollo Creed here because obviously I've got a little bit of a rocky knowledge.

Speaker: You son of a bitch.

Speaker: I've seen one, two, and three.

Speaker: Just looking up in the sky.

Speaker: It's bad podcasting, but I'm just trying to remember if I've seen four.

Speaker: No, I've not.

Speaker: So if we do watch any Rocky, it'll have to be from four.

Speaker: The best one.

Speaker: All right, we'll do that next.

Speaker: If we're not doing the Labyrinth, we're just going to talk about it a bit.

Speaker: Let's do the Labyrinth.

Speaker: So yeah, Carl Weathers having a booze.

Speaker: There's a lot of spitty men I've put here.

Speaker: I've put spitty man, shades brigades, Arnie cigar.

Speaker: That's how they get welcome from there.

Speaker: I'm not overlooking the spaceship, by the way, but it is very much like, there's a spaceship.

Speaker: Let's go back to normal world.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: It just kind of cock teases you a little bit, doesn't it?

Speaker: What's this?

Speaker: And then it's a load of ropey sods just sat in a red light.

Speaker: Funny though, because that crew, when I first saw them, I was like, there's a lot of faceless white men.

Speaker: Generally, well, apart from a guy who's obviously meant to be sort of a Native American and a black guy.

Speaker: But, you know, just generally they look a bit generic.

Speaker: There's two guys in particular just like each other.

Speaker: There's a guy with a glasses and the one called Poncho, whatever it's called.

Speaker: And they just thought, I thought I'm going to get them mixed up all the time.

Speaker: But yeah, the old spitting out the thing, the big shades.

Speaker: And I say Arnie's just chomping on his cigar in a good time in there, looking rad as fuck.

Speaker: Come in, get the mission.

Speaker: Dutch and Dylan, we're going to know him as here.

Speaker: That's obviously Arnie's character and Carl Weathers' character.

Speaker: They do the arm thing.

Speaker: As a kid, at this point here, when you're buying into this, did you see this film from the start, though?

Speaker: Or was it kind of a, look at this shit that's on here.

Speaker: Let me rewind it so you see the alien.

Speaker: Or was the arms thing a thing in the 80s?

Speaker: No, the arms thing wasn't a thing.

Speaker: I didn't really notice it.

Speaker: Like, it's weird, right?

Speaker: Because your paradigms of what you think is hench is skewed.

Speaker: I don't know if you're the same, right?

Speaker: And it was the same in the 90s with boobs.

Speaker: And I'll tell you what I mean.

Speaker: as a kidney eighties, you're kind of treated to people like Jean-Claude Van Damme, Sylvester Stallone, and Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Speaker: So you know that these guys are in good shape, but when you look at the normal guy in the street who's really tried hard to look after himself and go to the gym and get in some kind of real...

Speaker: proper shape you don't really notice the poor guy and he's been going to the gym for five years you know what I mean you don't you don't really notice but because they don't look like Arnold Schwarzenegger right so Cal Cal Weathers for example is in absolute sublime shape and you kind of look at that shot and you and all you're doing is going look at Arnie's muscles there look at that I wonder if he's got that little one that likes going on about

Speaker: Arnie's over the top though.

Speaker: He's not over the top.

Speaker: He's an absolute, he's a specimen.

Speaker: There's a reason why he was so famous for, you know, his original career.

Speaker: Because the man is an atlas, isn't he?

Speaker: It's Charles Atlas.

Speaker: He's got the whole fucking thing about what it is.

Speaker: So, yeah, I guess it's a bit of a, it's a nice moment here.

Speaker: I can say, because obviously Rocky would have been big.

Speaker: Rocky was originally in the late 70s, won it into the 80s for the first few.

Speaker: But the Lang must have been, Rocky III must have been early, mid-80s probably.

Speaker: So Bobber Lang was Mr. T, Apollo Creed.

Speaker: Oh, right.

Speaker: Sorry.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: So, um, yeah.

Speaker: Look at me knocking you down on the 80s here, mate.

Speaker: Do you know who Clubber Lang was?

Speaker: That was Mr. T from the 18.

Speaker: Never watched an episode in my life.

Speaker: Truth.

Speaker: I never have.

Speaker: It just looks shit.

Speaker: You've never watched the 18?

Speaker: Nah.

Speaker: Your childhood was terrible.

Speaker: That was on at two o'clock in the afternoon.

Speaker: I was at school, you fucking retard.

Speaker: On a Sunday.

Speaker: I was at Sunday school.

Speaker: Okay, now, so while you were all sat in a circle singing Kumbaya.

Speaker: I wasn't really in fucking Sunday school.

Speaker: You met my parents as if I was at fucking Sunday school with an 18th dad and a mum.

Speaker: Honestly, you telling me you go to Sunday school would explain a lot, and I could go, yeah, I get it.

Speaker: You probably just wanted to get out of the house.

Speaker: I was doing other stuff.

Speaker: We didn't watch a lot of telly.

Speaker: All right, so again, you know my dad.

Speaker: We were doing a lot of stuff outdoors on a Sunday.

Speaker: We were getting out and doing stuff.

Speaker: So fuck you and your TV.

Speaker: So they then get in, there's a bit of a moment here where there's obviously that flashback, because it's what you said a few pods back about how long things were since whatever.

Speaker: Because this isn't that long after Vietnam, because they've got all the Nam Choppers, and you've got Little Richard, haven't you, with the old... It just reminded me very much of Platoon, very much at that point, with the rolling in.

Speaker: A bit of Chopper chat.

Speaker: Then you've got the lad at the back, haven't you, with the Mac...

Speaker: who I instantly thought was Bubba Gump.

Speaker: Yeah, you think it's the same guy.

Speaker: But yeah, he had quite a big career, didn't he, the guy that plays Mac?

Speaker: Yeah, I saw his name at the end.

Speaker: I thought I did recognise the name and then didn't look up what else he'd done.

Speaker: So you could probably find that while I'm talking about the Chopper chat.

Speaker: And this is kind of a lot.

Speaker: It doesn't take long to get in.

Speaker: This is where I'm going to give this bonus point straight away, this film.

Speaker: because I'm now getting used to these shitty films and good films and stuff from this period.

Speaker: And some of them, there's a lot of like, you either don't get the information, blood sport, I'm looking at you.

Speaker: Why the fuck are you chasing a man who's on his holiday?

Speaker: Others, there's a lot of rambling and bambling before you get anywhere near what's going on.

Speaker: I guess, a little China, there's quite a bit of that.

Speaker: Well, it does go nuts pretty quick, but with this one, it's just very much, yeah, there's a problem, isn't there?

Speaker: Yeah, why weren't you in Libya?

Speaker: I don't kill people, defend people.

Speaker: All right, we need you to go into the jungle to get these people.

Speaker: All right, we're off.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Just go.

Speaker: That's it.

Speaker: Done.

Speaker: And then they find the bodies.

Speaker: They're all toasted.

Speaker: Did you find out what the films he was in, by the way?

Speaker: Yeah, I found a good few films, but nothing I actually recognize.

Speaker: So there's a... If I go back a few years... I was in X-Men, The Last Stand, Battlestar Galactica TV series.

Speaker: It's just one of them guys that's in everything.

Speaker: You know those guys?

Speaker: Like...

Speaker: Do you remember, I was literally just about to say, and this will make you laugh.

Speaker: Do you remember back in the 80s and early 90s, there was a guy called Gary Wilmot, used to turn up on everything, right?

Speaker: If you take out those things about that, what was he famous for?

Speaker: He was kind of like your, well, randomly, I know this, that he appeared in the stage show of Chitty Chitty Bang Bang about 10 years ago.

Speaker: He's a show and dance man, isn't he?

Speaker: Right.

Speaker: So 20 years prior to that, what was he famous for?

Speaker: He was just on telly doing bits, wasn't he?

Speaker: Like, hey, we've got Gary Wilmot.

Speaker: Who the fuck is Gary Wilmot?

Speaker: And what are you famous for?

Speaker: What was Carol G's famous for?

Speaker: Spit the dog.

Speaker: Yeah, but take the dog off.

Speaker: What was he famous for?

Speaker: Who gives a shit?

Speaker: That's his entire act.

Speaker: That's like saying, take the piano away from Elton John and what's he famous for?

Speaker: Being a rickety old legged bell bed.

Speaker: I'm pretty sure when he, Carol G used to come on surprise, surprise and help sell her out.

Speaker: Some of the times the surprises were just too big.

Speaker: He didn't have spit on then.

Speaker: All right, so you... All right, loves.

Speaker: You have not seen your gran for 30 years, and this might be your brother, John.

Speaker: Oh, it's me, Bob.

Speaker: Carol G's.

Speaker: It's like he didn't have the dog when she was handing out all these really tender moments between families.

Speaker: So what you're asking me is, what was Carol G's famous for without the dog?

Speaker: And then proceeded to explain what he was famous for without the dog.

Speaker: You had a go at Gary Wilmot.

Speaker: I was just defending him.

Speaker: What's he famous for?

Speaker: Right, Gary Wilmot.

Speaker: Gary Wilmot just turned up on things.

Speaker: What are you sticking up for Gary Wilmot for?

Speaker: 20 years later, he's in Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.

Speaker: We all know that, right?

Speaker: 80s, he just used to turn up on bloody Brian Connolly's Night Out or whatever.

Speaker: What was he famous for?

Speaker: He used to drop in the Sunday school.

Speaker: and give us all milk and sing Hosanna.

Speaker: That's it.

Speaker: I'm going to come to you to the point where you're going to message me, Mom, and go, Janet, did Ryan ever go to Sunday school?

Speaker: I used to go to the Holiday Bible Club in Skegness in a summer, summer holiday.

Speaker: Did I say about this?

Speaker: No.

Speaker: No.

Speaker: I can do it fairly quick, and we'll come back to predators that have just landed in the jungle.

Speaker: Gotcha.

Speaker: So, for some reason, in Skegness, you used to do this thing called the Holiday Bible Club.

Speaker: Now, remember, this is a small, this is 25,000 people town, maybe less than that.

Speaker: And then what the parents would do, everyone sort of did it.

Speaker: Everyone in the school did it.

Speaker: You'd go to, which wasn't a Sunday school, wasn't a Christian school or anything.

Speaker: Your parents would pay.

Speaker: Sorry, it wasn't a Christian school.

Speaker: What was it called?

Speaker: What, my school?

Speaker: No, junior.

Speaker: Right.

Speaker: But you've just said, I thought you were talking about the holiday Bible club wasn't as Christian school.

Speaker: In the holidays.

Speaker: Yes, this was in the summer holidays for like one week of the six week holiday.

Speaker: So your mum, I don't know, spent a five or something.

Speaker: So it'd be run by these people who are actually thinking back now, I don't know who they were.

Speaker: And there was this thing called St.

Speaker: Clement's Church Hall in Skagg, big old church hall.

Speaker: And there was more, God damn, there must have been nearly 400 kids, 300, 400 kids at this thing.

Speaker: Fucking tons of them.

Speaker: And you're all sat into like big, with a bit of a line down the middle, like an aisle.

Speaker: And one was orange and one was green.

Speaker: They were the team colors.

Speaker: Now this is the twist.

Speaker: Your face is going to get better and better by this.

Speaker: there was a theme each year.

Speaker: So I remember one year it was like medieval knights, one year it was space, one year it was spies.

Speaker: And then what they did is in front of each team up on the, like the curtains of the stage, whatever it was, they'd like done almost imagine a chess board, but it's in the shape of, so it's a castle for the medieval one.

Speaker: Or it's a, I don't know what the other ones were.

Speaker: I just said to you, like sport.

Speaker: Let's say it was in the shape of a tennis bat, whatever it was, if it was a sport one.

Speaker: And as you got points during the week for your team for doing various things, you'd get an orange or a green sticker and it's whoever made the shape first one kind of thing.

Speaker: It was kind of a competition element to why the kids were there.

Speaker: Now, what was funny was the competitions would range from a bit where you would go and colour in pictures of Jesus while eating rich tea finger biscuits and drinking watered down orange squash from a China cup.

Speaker: Jesus.

Speaker: I know.

Speaker: And other bits where you would just like make things with paper and straw.

Speaker: Sorry to interject.

Speaker: How old are you at this point?

Speaker: 17 or 18?

Speaker: No, I'm joking.

Speaker: I was about nine.

Speaker: About eight.

Speaker: Right.

Speaker: I'm getting to the best of it.

Speaker: So I remember one point you had to get up on stage and everyone had a jam donut, one of them proper donuts, not all this Krispy Kreme shit that tastes like cardboard, like proper old school fatty donuts with jam in.

Speaker: And each, they'd make you say a part of this Bible passage.

Speaker: So like Mark 10, 45, the son of man came to serve and not to give his life as ransom.

Speaker: I got an A11 and an RA, that's a different thing.

Speaker: And you had to bite the jam donut and say you're part of the passage without licking your lips.

Speaker: Otherwise you were out and you'd win a point for the team.

Speaker: I know you look disturbed.

Speaker: I will find out what this is properly one day, but I'm getting to the best part of it, which ties in with this.

Speaker: So there's a place near Skegg, not Butlins, where we used to work, but called the Derbyshire Miners.

Speaker: Do you know it?

Speaker: The Derbyshire Miners.

Speaker: Hang on.

Speaker: Hang on.

Speaker: Is it a working men's club?

Speaker: It's like a shit Butlins.

Speaker: It's a small Butlins.

Speaker: I know that sounds crazy, where people used to be in the pits, not children, miners, coal miners, would either go on holidays or retire to from Derbyshire.

Speaker: So you couldn't imagine what kind of men and women these were.

Speaker: Rough.

Speaker: Right.

Speaker: Now, that was still open, and they used to have these shitty dinosaurs in trees and shit to entertain the kids.

Speaker: Oh, it's a T-Rex, and there's a swimming pool and this kind of shit.

Speaker: Anyway, so part one of the days of this week that you took for the Holiday Bible Club was to go there, and you had to go and find people who were working there dressed in costumes to do with the week.

Speaker: So if it's medieval, there'd be a knight.

Speaker: There's a spy that have sunglasses on.

Speaker: And you had to go up to them and say something like, Holiday Bible Club Skegness.

Speaker: And they would go if it was the right person.

Speaker: I want to go there.

Speaker: And then they signed your book or whatever it was.

Speaker: Your face is an absolute picture.

Speaker: The bit that makes me laugh about this is when it was the space theme, there's a load of kids going around with books to fucked up minors from Derbyshire with emphysema going, holiday Bible club's getting this because we think they're an alien.

Speaker: And then we're going, fuck off and stuff like that.

Speaker: I'm just going, fuck you, leave me alone.

Speaker: It wasn't them.

Speaker: So often we get the wrong people because they're all people all like broken and twisted like that.

Speaker: And we thought they were aliens.

Speaker: So somebody would be sat there with a snuff stain down the front of their, you know, because I assumed they'd have been wearing braces and trousers because, you know, all with mucky and the trousers are too short and stuff like that with a kid.

Speaker: And bear in mind as well, because there was so many of you, there would have been a queue up at these people.

Speaker: The surreptitiousness of these infiltrated characters were kind of lost given the fact that you'd all be in groups of two or three running up and going, Holy Bible, Clubs, Gagnes, and there'd be another 30 kids waiting to repeat the same thing.

Speaker: So there's this poor geezer just trying to enjoy a one pound five pint of stones just getting harassed by God bothering kids who for some reason weren't God bothering.

Speaker: They just were for six weeks of the summer.

Speaker: We just went for one week to have some weak orange juice and some biscuits and talk about Jesus in a corner and win some stickers.

Speaker: sweet child of mine.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: I don't know how to unpack that.

Speaker: It wasn't meant to be as big as it was.

Speaker: I just, I just, it was a memory.

Speaker: And I just had this image that there was someone sat next to him with a colander and like Ziggy floppy things off the head.

Speaker: It was the idea and just going, it's me, you daft bastards.

Speaker: It's not, he's been down a bit 30 years near Chesterfield.

Speaker: It's not him.

Speaker: It just used to make me laugh at these poor fuckers got absolutely molested by kids each way.

Speaker: Anyway, I need to find out what it is.

Speaker: I tell that story every now and then.

Speaker: I keep going, yeah, this is a weird thing.

Speaker: No one I know seems to know what this was.

Speaker: I tell you what, though, Skegness is one of them towns where you could quite easily catch, you know, those town couple of characters, like, you know what I mean?

Speaker: Everybody knows him and they've all got a name, like the geezer you used to work with at the pizza place called himself John J. Rambo.

Speaker: You could easily find somebody in Skegness with cowboy boots on and a cowboy hat.

Speaker: And the same thing could happen on the cowboy week or the cowboy summer that you went there.

Speaker: Just kids running up to him.

Speaker: And they called him like one of the characters in this movie, Poncho or something.

Speaker: He's not a cowboy.

Speaker: That's just Poncho who likes American things.

Speaker: There was two.

Speaker: There was rumors of a man in what was called the Russian.

Speaker: And I saw him a few times.

Speaker: He used to wear like a trilby hat, grey, grey trilby hat, grey like Mac, and carry a case.

Speaker: And he had bald head.

Speaker: He was shaved head, so he had the hat on top of that.

Speaker: And he used to sit on a bench with his case.

Speaker: And you'd just see him walking around Skag.

Speaker: No one knew who he was.

Speaker: He was around all the time, the Russian.

Speaker: And the other one, there was a white fellow with white dreadlocks who did reggae in the town.

Speaker: And I think had sex with a few of the wives around.

Speaker: I called Irie White.

Speaker: Irie White did a rap about the roller coaster in Inglemouth.

Speaker: That's it.

Speaker: I knew you'd heard of him.

Speaker: So these characters were out there.

Speaker: My God.

Speaker: I mean, I think I've definitely told you this before, but once my mom mentioned somebody, I won't name names and they went, Oh, do you remember so-and-so?

Speaker: And I was like, who's that?

Speaker: And they went, so-and-so you remember.

Speaker: I went, Oh, is that, is that that lad whose dad thought he was a trainer and mom had a beard?

Speaker: And she went, yeah, that's him.

Speaker: And you go, what a way to be remembered about things.

Speaker: Back to predator.

Speaker: We're in the woods.

Speaker: This is where you see the predators P of V. What did you think of that when you first see through his eyes?

Speaker: Cause that was a good moment.

Speaker: Yeah, I loved it.

Speaker: I loved it.

Speaker: I thought that was really cool.

Speaker: I thought it was the coolest thing.

Speaker: I was like, this is, man, this is, and you can hear the brrrr in the background and you're like, oh, yeah.

Speaker: Oh, yeah, there's some things about to go down here.

Speaker: Heat technology, isn't it?

Speaker: And then they have that rebel base.

Speaker: We're going to say this too much, but there's three or four times where I've just written, I will read you them line by line.

Speaker: So like the one where I said Spitty Man, Shades Brigade, Arnie Cigar, that was all kind of like forward slash.

Speaker: Here, one by one, I put attack on rebel base, return.

Speaker: Boom, return.

Speaker: Bang, return.

Speaker: Rat-a-tat.

Speaker: boom just that just there was a big moment where i think i could have fast forwarded a bit because i knew what was coming next it was another explosion was this the time of the explosion it must have been it must have been i don't know why i've said it's explosion a but i enjoy it i've just been reading the roy hodgson's autobiography so i was i was just getting near the finale of it uh but yeah the thing that got me about that was they still think at this point there's hostages in there and i just put hostages are all fucked

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Just gone in there.

Speaker: They've seen one get killed and they've gone, oh, one's down.

Speaker: And then they don't even look for the other ones.

Speaker: It's just like, bang, poof, bang.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: It's just, again, we're not doing these to try and pick them apart, are we, Dan?

Speaker: But there's a part where you're just going, that's weak.

Speaker: You've clearly not played a lot of Counter-Strike or any of these kind of games on the older, whatever it might be.

Speaker: But like it was something that you kind of said at the start, like this one goes straight into it, but it doesn't go straight into the Predator storyline, does it?

Speaker: It goes straight into, you know, the big boys in boots kind of side of it first, kind of sets them up as characters.

Speaker: And as it sounds, that disposable razor that Mac has got through the movie doesn't really get explained, does it?

Speaker: No, just weird.

Speaker: And also for those, I mean, obviously being a man who's quite hussute, it's only really ever shaved my cheeks or sometimes a bit around my mouth or my neck and I use electric one on.

Speaker: So the thought of like, especially when it's warm, scratching a razor down the side of my chops is something I've not done for a long time.

Speaker: And I was like, Christ, that looks, we'll come to that in a minute because actually I mentioned that later on.

Speaker: There's a character who I think is called Blaine.

Speaker: He says, I ain't got time to bleed.

Speaker: I don't know if you remember this.

Speaker: One that I suggest you're bleeding.

Speaker: This is Jesse the body Ventura.

Speaker: Is that who that one is?

Speaker: Yeah, yeah.

Speaker: So the one with the big Gatling gun, that's Jesse the body Ventura.

Speaker: And interesting side note, chaps, Jesse and Arnie had a bit of a preamble saying who's got the biggest arms.

Speaker: And whoever had the biggest circumference of their bicep won a bottle of champagne.

Speaker: What Jesse was thinking in this, I've no idea.

Speaker: I mean, this is literally Mr. Olympia, right?

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: So they've gone.

Speaker: And so what Arnie did was pay the makeup artist to tell Jesse that he had bigger arms.

Speaker: So they had this competition and then walked up and went, hey, I've got bigger arms than you.

Speaker: Well, okay, then let's have a measuring contest.

Speaker: Apparently he's now a Dutchman.

Speaker: Exactly.

Speaker: Well, his name was Dutch, right?

Speaker: So they've done it and Arnie's absolutely swamped him by like two inches and then he had to buy him a bottle of champagne because he got to stitch him up.

Speaker: He didn't look that big.

Speaker: I've actually written underneath here fucking MTV t-shirt.

Speaker: These guys, he's meant to be pro and he's walking around with a fucking MTV t-shirt.

Speaker: But when he says something like, you bleed and he goes, I ain't got time to bleed.

Speaker: I like how the other guy goes, oh, okay.

Speaker: It's kind of my response would have been, all right, you're a bellend.

Speaker: You don't wear a shirt.

Speaker: Pretty early on though, Dylan's outed.

Speaker: Oh, hold on Dylan.

Speaker: There's no diplomats here at all.

Speaker: Well, yeah, we knew you wouldn't come in otherwise.

Speaker: We just got that out of the way early doors.

Speaker: So, I mean, I guess the thing is we're sort of looking at this that people would have just gone, should go and see that film called Predator.

Speaker: I've not seen a trailer for it.

Speaker: You wouldn't have seen trailers like you do these days, but you still would have known what you were going to go and see to a point, wouldn't you?

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: I mean, things almost get a bit ruined now.

Speaker: They almost say to you now, try not to see the trailer.

Speaker: Just go and see it.

Speaker: And that's always been a funny one for me.

Speaker: Cause I'm like, well, I don't know what's going to happen.

Speaker: It might be, it might not be my kind of film.

Speaker: I've never seen that before in my life.

Speaker: Trying.

Speaker: Who's saying that people on the internet or the, or the people who made the movie.

Speaker: This would be like on, I listen to a film review shows and stuff like that on podcasts, Mark Kermode or something like that.

Speaker: And they'll say, it really is one of those, the least you know about it, the better.

Speaker: It's that kind of thing with the film.

Speaker: Try it.

Speaker: Everything's explained in the start of the trailer.

Speaker: Try not to watch that.

Speaker: If you're interested in either this person's films or this kind of film,

Speaker: try not to know much about it before you go and see it and you'll love it if you like this that kind of thing it's not just a that is a genuine joyless man who's seen far too many shit movies isn't it i just can't wait who was and was anderson's coming out soon uh which i'm sure you'll love um so yeah dylan's outed and then he says something about them being expendable and i was like i've heard of a film called expendables is this because of this

Speaker: No, this was like 30 years before.

Speaker: I know it is, but is that where the name of that comes from?

Speaker: Because it's in this film that you said, oh, we'll all be expendable, or is it because... Oh, no, it's an army term for the first people that go in.

Speaker: Oh, like cannon fodder.

Speaker: That was literally the phrase I was about to use.

Speaker: The classic game that was the army version of Sensible World of Soccer.

Speaker: No.

Speaker: I thought we were the same age and stuff, but obviously you were in a park doing glue while I was with Jesus.

Speaker: I was watching A-Team like the rest of the people of our age.

Speaker: So I was a bit disappointed with Billy at this point because I like Billy.

Speaker: I thought Billy seemed all right.

Speaker: He looked like a man of nature, sniffing things out.

Speaker: Yeah, what's that in that tree?

Speaker: You know what I mean?

Speaker: I like a bit of that.

Speaker: You know, my dad always taught me as a kid to walk backwards if he didn't want to get tracked because... Sorry, what?

Speaker: What?

Speaker: What?

Speaker: What the fuck?

Speaker: Right.

Speaker: What childhood did you have?

Speaker: You did watch the A-Team and you're walking backwards through Forest, going to church camp for a week in the summer.

Speaker: Do you remember when I told you about how I did the scouts and what my dad set me wearing?

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Does it surprise you that he was less of a fan of the Cowboys as a kid, but like the Indians more?

Speaker: Because it was their land, all this, you know, fully on board with.

Speaker: Read Bury My Heart, a wounded knee, fucking atrocious.

Speaker: But he would say... If you're being tracked...

Speaker: You walk backwards because obviously you normally go heel first, toes down.

Speaker: So if you go backwards from where you are, then they'll follow it and things like that.

Speaker: But the best thing is, right, somewhere you don't want to go.

Speaker: The whole point of being tracked is that you don't know you're being tracked.

Speaker: No, it's to stop it.

Speaker: But the trouble is you can't go where you want to go because you have to go backwards.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: You see, just walking backwards through forests, laying rocks down, pointing the other way like we were taught in Scouts.

Speaker: I thought about it.

Speaker: I was just creeping around school, getting bullied, walking backwards, believing in Jesus.

Speaker: So there you go.

Speaker: Honestly, that's one of the things where they tell you

Speaker: survival techniques.

Speaker: Oh, what's the survival technique?

Speaker: Putting your finger through the toilet paper and then wiping your finger off after rummaging around in your bum hole.

Speaker: Oh, that'll keep you alive.

Speaker: What the fuck is that?

Speaker: And you're having a go at me.

Speaker: I'm sticking with Jesus and walking backwards.

Speaker: Walking backwards for Jesus.

Speaker: That's my biography.

Speaker: No, there was a survival technique that used to go flying around our scout crew.

Speaker: And it was like one of those horror stories.

Speaker: But they used to say survival technique.

Speaker: Now, think of that as a banner, right?

Speaker: So you get one sheet of toilet paper in order to ration it.

Speaker: You put your finger through it.

Speaker: Have a rummage around your rusty sheriff's badge.

Speaker: And then use the toilet paper collar that you've got around your finger to wipe off the remaining pieces of shite that's all over your finger.

Speaker: As a man with Crohn's disease, with multiple arse issues that have gone on, there is no way you're clearing anywhere that rabbit hole with just a naked finger.

Speaker: If it bleeds, we can kill it.

Speaker: I know, right?

Speaker: And the fact that it's under the umbrella of a survival technique.

Speaker: What did I have?

Speaker: A dirty shitter.

Speaker: That reminds me of the time that kid at my school came up to somebody else and he put his finger right in his face and went, sniff that.

Speaker: And he went, oh, it smells of shit.

Speaker: And he went, I've had him up my arse.

Speaker: And he had had them up his ass.

Speaker: We'd seen him at small break.

Speaker: What, just rummaging around?

Speaker: Well, we had long break and short break and he'd done it at a short break again.

Speaker: Watch this.

Speaker: A couple right up there.

Speaker: And then he was like, someone's going to love it.

Speaker: And everyone was avoiding him who saw it.

Speaker: And yeah, straight up to someone's face.

Speaker: Have a sniff on that.

Speaker: I don't think we're going to get endorsed by the Skegness Tories Board at any point going forward, are we?

Speaker: Well, they may be what I was, so I can claim against them for the mental stuff.

Speaker: So we're getting through it.

Speaker: So yeah, but actually this ties in with it.

Speaker: Billy, I like.

Speaker: I like Billy out of that crew.

Speaker: You think you're all right, don't you?

Speaker: And he tells a...

Speaker: Does he tell it?

Speaker: No, the other lad tells a joke about something like, it's something about his girlfriend's pussies, the words that he uses.

Speaker: And when he tells it to Billy, I must admit, Dan, part of me was going, don't laugh, Bill.

Speaker: You're better than that.

Speaker: It's not a great joke about echoes and stuff like that.

Speaker: And then he goes, ha ha ha.

Speaker: I said, ah, Billy, you let me down.

Speaker: You've ruined it.

Speaker: I actually wrote disappointed in Billy slash putty joke.

Speaker: He let me down.

Speaker: I thought he'd be walking backwards with me and my dad.

Speaker: Then Billy gets spooked.

Speaker: This is actually some of the bad effects.

Speaker: The first time we see the predator, that girl's been captured, hasn't she?

Speaker: And he kills the bloke who's holding the girl.

Speaker: It's bad.

Speaker: It's obviously that kind of like it's hard because he's not there, but he's there, isn't he?

Speaker: But the effects when you're actually not seeing through his eyes, but seeing the movement bit are a bit hit and miss.

Speaker: Sometimes they're all right.

Speaker: Sometimes they're not.

Speaker: It didn't really take me out of the movie, though.

Speaker: Do you know what I mean?

Speaker: Sometimes when something's really shit, you're like, what the fuck am I watching?

Speaker: Like that Modok in the Ant-Man movie.

Speaker: Oh, I haven't seen it yet.

Speaker: Oh, God, it's fucking dreadful.

Speaker: Oh, is it bad?

Speaker: Is it a bit like the visual effects in The Flash that are getting past?

Speaker: battered everywhere.

Speaker: I thought that was on purpose, as does it sound.

Speaker: I don't feel like it ruined it for me.

Speaker: It seemed on purpose.

Speaker: It seemed like they were all in that vein because bear in mind, they've got to reanimate people who've passed away, you know, people who've never actually made it to the silver screen in that type of role.

Speaker: I don't know why.

Speaker: People are just wankers, aren't they?

Speaker: People just want to, but because I'd seen it and was known, people in my team at work kept going, like, because I'd gone to the premiere, kept going, oh, you know that film you saw?

Speaker: Made it be shit, the effects.

Speaker: I just got it all the time, like I'd made it.

Speaker: I was like, Ezra Miller, your mate, is he?

Speaker: Anyway, when that bloke's been killed, his body disappears.

Speaker: I don't know, again, I don't know if you've watched it again recently, I remember as a kid.

Speaker: There's a bit where, and I'm not great with reds and greens because of my colorblindness, but there's a bit where he's looking through the bushes trying to find him.

Speaker: And there's clearly something on the floor that is red and bloody and not nice.

Speaker: And the guy goes, he's going to be sick.

Speaker: And he's like, oh, my God.

Speaker: And he gets Arnie.

Speaker: And I've just put red matter in a bush because Arnie has a look and he's going, there's no body, but I think that's him.

Speaker: And I'm like, what?

Speaker: I can't see what you're looking at.

Speaker: You didn't film it very well.

Speaker: Get in there.

Speaker: Let me have a look.

Speaker: I don't know what, is it an epiglottis?

Speaker: I mean, what is that?

Speaker: What are you looking at?

Speaker: Did you see what that was in the bushel?

Speaker: Remember?

Speaker: No, it's one of them where it's kind of implied, like if it's going to make Arnie, you know, wince a little bit.

Speaker: I mean, but we do find out later on that they're removing head and spinal columns and skinning people.

Speaker: So we kind of know what it is later on, don't we?

Speaker: Spoiler.

Speaker: But yeah, for those who don't know, this doesn't cheer up this film at any point, really.

Speaker: We get some what I call blue laser death and we get some alien blood because Max had a rat-a-tat boom bang, as I put in a line on this bit.

Speaker: We've got some alien blood.

Speaker: Max saw it, but he doesn't explain it very well.

Speaker: This is a bit where Max sees him and he sees his eyes, doesn't he?

Speaker: He sees his, he's like yellowy eyes and he sees a bit of the outline of him and he has a good shot at him like that and he doesn't hit him and everyone starts paving away at the bloody woods.

Speaker: it annoyed me slightly that he doesn't explain it better.

Speaker: He sort of just says something like, you ain't human, or something like that.

Speaker: But you'd go, if it's me or you, Dan, I'd be going, oh, well, kind of a bit of an outline of a thing.

Speaker: Looked like it was from the Holy Bible Club

Speaker: probably the jacked up reggie blinker with a mask on about six foot tall that's right that's right big bugger rum bugger got big old legs um what we got here so oh yeah max saw it don't explain well and then we've got the bit where um what's she called again the big lab with the big biceps who you know the name of oh uh what the character is called blaine blaine but ventura guy yeah yeah when he dies there's a bit i've i've always had a name for this called trumpets of glory

Speaker: Right.

Speaker: So I think I was first made aware of it when I was playing Medal of Honor or something on the PS2.

Speaker: And it's a bit, you also see it a lot if you go to American theme parks and you go to like the Hall of Presidents and it kind of goes like... You get the drums going, then it's a...

Speaker: We'll find a proper clip of it.

Speaker: But it's that kind of music that's like born on the 4th of July, that kind of America.

Speaker: And I've always called it, yeah, trumpets of glory.

Speaker: And you hear a bit of it here.

Speaker: It's very miraky.

Speaker: But yeah, if you're smiling, I think you roughly know what I'm talking about.

Speaker: I know exactly what you're talking about.

Speaker: Yeah, I agree.

Speaker: that shit.

Speaker: So they do some Trumpets of Glory.

Speaker: They set up some traps.

Speaker: Predator does some medical time.

Speaker: This annoyed me.

Speaker: He's sorting himself out because he's been shot to shit, hasn't he?

Speaker: Pred.

Speaker: I keep calling him Pred, which is funny because that's the name of a drugger who's to take for medication.

Speaker: There's a character around Skegness, probably.

Speaker: Prednisolone.

Speaker: It's the name of something you'd take if you were very well.

Speaker: So I keep putting him... What?

Speaker: There's a bit where he's doing his meds and he has really bendy fingers and it bugged me.

Speaker: His fingers were bendy, like his nails and stuff.

Speaker: They're obviously not his hands, are they?

Speaker: Oh, right.

Speaker: Okay.

Speaker: I tell you what, though, that used to annoy me more in things like Thunderbirds, where they'd have these puppets, and then they'd do something with their hands, and then have a close-up of him, you know, rolling a fag or pushing a button, and it'd be human hands.

Speaker: Yeah, yeah.

Speaker: I don't mind that as much as the fact that he's got that... It's quite an amazing suit, really, the Penetra suit.

Speaker: It's incredible.

Speaker: But, like, he's got them kind of, like, big bird feet.

Speaker: So when he jumps down off things, because they're obviously not his feet, they sort of do that flop.

Speaker: Yeah, and he's hitting all dials and stuff.

Speaker: You'd at least have done it like a hard finger, I'd have thought anyway.

Speaker: Flares, boom.

Speaker: It was a bloody pig.

Speaker: It looked like Bebop from the Turtles.

Speaker: Is that the right one or was getting wrong?

Speaker: Bebop with the glasses.

Speaker: Yeah, yeah, the Mohawk.

Speaker: Yeah, he's got his massive crazy tussle.

Speaker: Oh, he just killed a pig.

Speaker: There's a lot of body snatching.

Speaker: He's coming to the Nick that.

Speaker: Boy Scout bullshit set up.

Speaker: Why have I put that?

Speaker: Oh, yeah, because they start doing a lot of Boy Scout shit where they're all doing like carving things and walking backwards.

Speaker: Yeah, and he gets caught in a net, doesn't Predator, and you see his face.

Speaker: Matt runs after him.

Speaker: Dylan follows.

Speaker: Pincer movement.

Speaker: They're trying to stop him.

Speaker: Then you see for the first time the three dots right on his end.

Speaker: Goes up his arm.

Speaker: What a way to go.

Speaker: I mean, we're talking about that in the news, weren't we, about people getting submarines and what a way to go.

Speaker: But three dots on the head.

Speaker: That's the way Matt's gone, isn't he?

Speaker: Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.

Speaker: I'll come back to it later on.

Speaker: What?

Speaker: So Matt's been boshed, and it's Nayan removed his head, right?

Speaker: And then it removes... What else does the weapon that the Predator remove?

Speaker: Oh, an arm.

Speaker: An arm?

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: So this is... Dylan, arm off, still shooting.

Speaker: Yeah, so this removes an arm.

Speaker: It removes an head.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: But later on, it's just a flesh wound for Arnie.

Speaker: Yeah, because it's a blue one, isn't it?

Speaker: Yeah, okay.

Speaker: I did think that.

Speaker: I thought he took them well.

Speaker: In fact, they both take it.

Speaker: There's him and the other person take a hit as well, and they're both still survived.

Speaker: And yeah, Dylan has a bit of a bad end, because you think Billy's going to... Carl Weathers is probably going to survive it, old Dylan, but he doesn't, does he?

Speaker: Arm off.

Speaker: The arm's still shooting on the floor.

Speaker: That's right.

Speaker: Yeah, just going...

Speaker: I forgot that happened.

Speaker: I forgot that happened.

Speaker: Terrible.

Speaker: I mean, that was one bit you nearly lost me.

Speaker: And then he sees the predator running to him.

Speaker: He's like doing parkour off the fucking logs, isn't he?

Speaker: Come on, I'm going to have you.

Speaker: And he gets his double knife right up inside in his bits.

Speaker: Billy then goes rogue and cuts himself for no real reason on the chest.

Speaker: What's all that about?

Speaker: I don't know.

Speaker: I don't know.

Speaker: It was like he was performing some kind of ritual and went, well, what's this?

Speaker: And then you don't see him die, if I remember rightly.

Speaker: Am I right?

Speaker: You just hear him scream across the jungle and then he's hanging there with no skin on five minutes later.

Speaker: Yeah, you don't see him dead, but you see his spine being removed with his skull before the great big ended.

Speaker: Agree, Dan.

Speaker: We've put their blue shots to the head and Arnie.

Speaker: Arnie's having blue shots.

Speaker: Get to the chopper.

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: Which is a big bit, isn't it?

Speaker: Yeah, the get to the chopper line.

Speaker: If you say to a kid in the street around this time, do an Arnold Schwarzenegger impression, it would either be secondary to I'll be back.

Speaker: It'll be, get to the chopper.

Speaker: And that's because of this.

Speaker: Everybody perfected that.

Speaker: I have heard that quite a few times.

Speaker: People mentioned the chopper.

Speaker: I remember we were...

Speaker: did a gig in Bordeaux and I had to drive and all the other lads were in the back of the van playing PS4 or whatever it was in the back, in the band.

Speaker: And they just kept doing Arnie like, kind of noises all the time and then just kept saying about a chopper.

Speaker: I mean, did drive me fucking bananas for like 12 hours driving without going on.

Speaker: That sounds horrendous.

Speaker: In a way, it kind of haunts me.

Speaker: He jumps off a cliff into the water.

Speaker: Then we've got a muddy Dutch and a wet Predator.

Speaker: Predator's all sparking.

Speaker: You think, oh, he's done his shit.

Speaker: Dutch is covered in mud.

Speaker: He doesn't have...

Speaker: And get covered in that mud.

Speaker: Now, I kept thinking when I got out of some water like that, I wouldn't put my face in it like he does.

Speaker: He gets right covered.

Speaker: Now, these are run puggers.

Speaker: These are Navy SEALs, mate.

Speaker: You know what I mean?

Speaker: These aren't worried about a bit of mud under your fingernails.

Speaker: They're doing survival techniques with toilet paper.

Speaker: Well, yeah.

Speaker: Does it do the cloaking as needed?

Speaker: Now, the bit that gets moved this is, I don't know about how you feel on this, but when he's in between the roots of that tree covered in mud and predators come out,

Speaker: There comes a point where I think, because he doesn't know at this point that Predator can't see him when he's covered in mud.

Speaker: He's a brave lad there, because I think I would have been finding something to Cobb.

Speaker: I'd have been shouted and gone, fuck it, something.

Speaker: Do you know what I mean?

Speaker: Because I wouldn't have gone, oh, you won't see me now.

Speaker: I'm mudded up.

Speaker: But yeah, I thought that was a perilous moment there.

Speaker: Got me on the edge of my seat.

Speaker: I think he gets more perilous moment.

Speaker: The fact that he actually says it out loud.

Speaker: You can't see me.

Speaker: Shut up.

Speaker: Because he doesn't know how good his ears are.

Speaker: You've got no idea.

Speaker: Here's an absolute stealth killer that's taken out all your mates and he's talking to himself out loud.

Speaker: Crackhead.

Speaker: That's good.

Speaker: I never really thought about that at the time.

Speaker: That's good.

Speaker: I like that.

Speaker: So Arnie goes into home alone montage mode.

Speaker: although thinking about it, Home Alone being early 90s, Home Alone has copied Predator, another monster.

Speaker: Copied Predator.

Speaker: Yep, yep, yep.

Speaker: He makes a bow.

Speaker: Now, I'll tell you what, having a father who once tried to make you one of those, they're tough to make.

Speaker: The tension is hard and it takes a lot of different strips of wood upon each other to give it the tension for the long bow.

Speaker: He's done well to craft a bow.

Speaker: I'll give him that.

Speaker: I'll tell you what, your dad gets an airing on this podcast.

Speaker: And I don't think there's an opportunity to really give him justice.

Speaker: But I've just thought of one without actually getting him on here because, you know, we don't want to subject the listeners to that.

Speaker: But like there's... Yeah, if we said to him, suggest a movie for us to watch and talk about and it will be some... What do you reckon he would suggest?

Speaker: The English Patient.

Speaker: Fucking hell.

Speaker: Because it's one that, it's like Il Pegliano's, which is a restaurant in Wimbledon where we say you had good food once.

Speaker: You always get the same.

Speaker: Oh, God.

Speaker: It's like 30 years old, that movie.

Speaker: Yeah, but he enjoyed it.

Speaker: I don't know.

Speaker: Yeah, we will at one point.

Speaker: We'll do it at the end.

Speaker: We'll get them both on and sit in here like I'm on a fucking, you know, like a therapist thing.

Speaker: So how come I wasn't allowed to watch this man getting his spine pulled out of his back, which happens to Billy?

Speaker: Because while Arnie's doing his Home Alone shit and making his bows, Fred isn't pissing about.

Speaker: He's collecting names.

Speaker: Taking names, yeah.

Speaker: Taking names, collecting spines.

Speaker: That's a good line, isn't it?

Speaker: We're off out tonight.

Speaker: taking names, collecting spines, just watching one of those mates who don't go out with you that often going, we're doing what?

Speaker: Yeah, yeah, never your mind.

Speaker: It's what we do.

Speaker: Just go with it.

Speaker: What I like about it is he's got his row of skulls, hasn't he?

Speaker: Pred, he's got them like locked away.

Speaker: Pred, like he's me mate.

Speaker: Oh, Predo, Predo.

Speaker: He's got his skulls in that bag.

Speaker: But what I noticed as he stood up, he's got heads of men, but also heads of animals.

Speaker: What have they done wrong?

Speaker: He's got little like voles and shit around the side of him.

Speaker: I'm like,

Speaker: But like, I can't work, you might be able to correct me on this one because I know you've only seen the first one, but there is a point where it's mentioned that he only kills things that are good sport to him.

Speaker: So it might.

Speaker: Okay.

Speaker: So, so it might be, it might be in one of the sequels where he's talking, but he only, apparently he's got some code of killing that he only kills people that give him some kind of fight or some kind of sport.

Speaker: So if that's the case, like you said, what are these animals around?

Speaker: You know what they do?

Speaker: Pretty angry squirrel just, just took his dinner.

Speaker: Yeah, because they can't have been much of a match for him with his homing missiles and his red spots and his blue eyes.

Speaker: And bear in mind, you know, it can take a head and an arm off.

Speaker: How would he kill a squirrel with that?

Speaker: There'd be nothing left.

Speaker: I've no idea.

Speaker: It just really tickled me.

Speaker: There's something that looks bird-like, and there's other ones that are just like a hedgehog or something.

Speaker: It's just gone, right, you haven't.

Speaker: Yeah, fuck you, hedgehog.

Speaker: I don't know if I'd like to see, but I'd imagine how someone would take the spine out of a hedgehog with the brain still attached.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Hedgehogs, by the way, people in India don't generally know what they are.

Speaker: There's a reason.

Speaker: So training in India, there was a bit where we did our watches.

Speaker: Don't ask me which crackhead thought of this.

Speaker: How you sleep on your watch, it will tell you you slept like a lion.

Speaker: You slept like a penguin.

Speaker: A lion, I get.

Speaker: Penguin, I don't get.

Speaker: You slept like a bear, I get.

Speaker: You slept like a hedgehog.

Speaker: Someone's come up with these ideas in Korea of what things you might sleep with.

Speaker: And somebody said to me in this sleep with sleep, like, so the way you, they give you like a, an animal.

Speaker: And so we went, sorry, sir.

Speaker: What's sorry.

Speaker: So what's his, a hedgehog?

Speaker: And went, oh God, yeah, you probably don't have them in India, do you?

Speaker: And I went, I said, yeah, a mouse?

Speaker: And they all went, yeah.

Speaker: I went, covered in spikes?

Speaker: And they all went, oh!

Speaker: This kind of response of like, you saw all these 100 people in this room just do a face of like, mouse?

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Covered in spikes?

Speaker: Well, that sounds fucking horrendous.

Speaker: It's just like, no, it's not that bad.

Speaker: It can turn into a ball.

Speaker: What?

Speaker: What?

Speaker: And none of these kids are sleeping tonight.

Speaker: The spiked mouse might get them.

Speaker: But what kind of corporate bollocks is that?

Speaker: You slept like a penguin.

Speaker: What does that mean?

Speaker: It's because people have to have visualization on shit, don't they, these days?

Speaker: I guess that's what I put it down.

Speaker: I'm not supporting it.

Speaker: I think there's a point where you have to go, if I don't give that a color or a rank or you've got a bronze or you've got a silver or whatever, and that's their way of doing it.

Speaker: Just...

Speaker: You can't just say you've run 10 miles or you've picked up 7,000 kilograms.

Speaker: You've got to say, you know this yourself.

Speaker: You've picked up a boat.

Speaker: Which I get, because they are things.

Speaker: I understand that.

Speaker: But, you know, like attainable goals and all the rest of it, and if you're goal-based, that makes sense to me.

Speaker: But my goal would not be to sleep like a fucking hedgehog.

Speaker: I have no idea what hedgehogs, how they sleep.

Speaker: Same with penguins.

Speaker: Even bears.

Speaker: They sleep on fire underneath a bonfire.

Speaker: I'm just kidding.

Speaker: Yeah, yeah, scaring Indian kids with their sheer presence.

Speaker: Yeah, completely.

Speaker: You know, I don't understand what that means.

Speaker: Do you know what it is?

Speaker: It's like, you know how the Americans fart around the poo with the metric system, you know, about 50 years ago and went, no, fuck this.

Speaker: We're going to stay with pounds.

Speaker: And he goes, this guy weighs 250 pounds.

Speaker: I don't know what that means.

Speaker: I have no reference for that whatsoever.

Speaker: Do I weigh 250 pounds?

Speaker: Do the pair of us together weigh?

Speaker: I don't know.

Speaker: I have to ask Alexa.

Speaker: It does my head in because then they'll speak the double talk of going to us doing 90 mile an hour.

Speaker: All right.

Speaker: And then someone says, yeah, but how many is it in kilograms?

Speaker: I have no idea.

Speaker: I have absolutely no idea.

Speaker: The only time I knew how heavy I was in kilograms is when I was in hospital.

Speaker: You come see me and I've been, and I didn't have even the strength in me in the hospital scales to switch it to stones and pounds.

Speaker: So I just used to deal with whatever the fuck it was.

Speaker: I remember that I was 88 kilograms.

Speaker: And when I came out, I realized that was like 13 stone and was pretty light for me.

Speaker: I was like, Jesus.

Speaker: So that's kind of always been my bar of what a kilogram is, is ill.

Speaker: It's 88 for me.

Speaker: We're nearly at the end of this one.

Speaker: So we've talked about the, oh, quick,

Speaker: we might as well throw it in, we're reverent anyway.

Speaker: My neighbours who live near us in, wherever the hell I live with Chrissy, they once got their own back though, because they moved from Bangalore from India.

Speaker: And in the morning, really lovely family.

Speaker: And the guy sat there and he said to me, did you see the wolves last night?

Speaker: He said, did you see those wolves near the bin?

Speaker: And I was like, what the fuck?

Speaker: We lived right near the country.

Speaker: And it turns out that he didn't know what a fox was and thought it was a wolf.

Speaker: I thought I lived in Westeros.

Speaker: I was like, wolves near the bed again home.

Speaker: They've got orange wolves out here and these spiky mice.

Speaker: Like, you don't want to come here.

Speaker: It's mental.

Speaker: Spike mouse.

Speaker: And if I had that bit where I said about them burning underneath the bonfire, and sometimes they're on fire in November.

Speaker: What the fuck is that?

Speaker: Devil's falling out like, running out like Tails and Sonic in 92, just coming out on fire.

Speaker: You know, you know what?

Speaker: That would, that would, that would actually be a fun game to walk up to somebody who's just come from India and go, listen, have you ever had a jog?

Speaker: No.

Speaker: Well, I'll tell you what, I'm going to tell you what one is and I want you to draw a picture of what I'm describing.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: And then you start translating the word hedge.

Speaker: Okay, that's one of them.

Speaker: Hog.

Speaker: It's a pig mouse?

Speaker: What the fuck is that thing?

Speaker: Yeah, because if you start describing it, it's absolutely hideous.

Speaker: So what we've got, heads of men, heads of animals, which took us down a route, obviously.

Speaker: Tarzan flame, I've written there.

Speaker: Oh, yeah, because he's on his, he kind of goes, oh, and he shouts him over, doesn't he?

Speaker: Yep, yep, yep, yep.

Speaker: Get over here, you knobhead.

Speaker: Bomb arrow, fires in, a lot of fireworks going off near that tree because they've obviously gone, this is a nice looking little set.

Speaker: Let's use loads of fireworks around it.

Speaker: Predator's got a blood trail, swings on a branch.

Speaker: Oh, that's good.

Speaker: Arnie's trying to get away from him and there's a branch and I thought he's going to go for that branch and it's curved like that.

Speaker: When Arnie cuts to the scene where he's on it, it's straight.

Speaker: And I'm not saying it's just because he's tough as fuck, but they changed the branch quite clearly because he wasn't going to swing on something like that.

Speaker: He's coming in.

Speaker: It's straight.

Speaker: He just swings.

Speaker: Dickhead.

Speaker: Swings on the branch.

Speaker: In the drink.

Speaker: Buy mud.

Speaker: A up Pred.

Speaker: Oh, yeah.

Speaker: So, yeah.

Speaker: So, I've shortened that.

Speaker: It's a street slang for you.

Speaker: So, all his stuff's gone off.

Speaker: Shows his face.

Speaker: Oh, yeah.

Speaker: Pred takes his hat off, doesn't he?

Speaker: And he's like, have a look at this.

Speaker: Reggie Blinker here.

Speaker: Other footballers from that period available.

Speaker: Terence Trent Derby.

Speaker: How you doing?

Speaker: Milli Vanilli.

Speaker: Yeah, why not?

Speaker: Similar.

Speaker: Anyone else you want to add?

Speaker: I mean, it could be Rudy Voller, but not quite the same.

Speaker: Given the color of the alien skin, it could be Skegness, Grimsby-born rapper, Irie White, singing about the roller coaster.

Speaker: So he shows his face, and then he just kicks on his ass for ages.

Speaker: Because he's obviously gone, I have to take you on, Mano, on Mano.

Speaker: You are Mr. Olympic, or Olympus, what we're going to call him.

Speaker: And then, oh, sidebar, James Cameron, he came up with the ideas of the mandibles.

Speaker: I don't know why.

Speaker: Apparently, like he sat there because he didn't even direct it.

Speaker: And he sat there and gone, what about mandibles?

Speaker: Yeah, that sounds like a good idea.

Speaker: All right, sick.

Speaker: See you later.

Speaker: He sat there.

Speaker: I like how he's just sat in the corner.

Speaker: That's what he does.

Speaker: Yeah, like smoking man from X-Files.

Speaker: Like, I tell you, I've got an idea for your kids.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: In 10 years time, I'm going to go under the sea and do a film about this bullet.

Speaker: But in the meantime, mandibles.

Speaker: God, it was about 10 years.

Speaker: That's fucking crazy.

Speaker: You can't think that Titanic is 10 years after this.

Speaker: Horrendous.

Speaker: So yeah, these shouts, kill me, kill me.

Speaker: And he's not a daft bugger.

Speaker: He's going, hey, you've got some spiky shit here.

Speaker: You want me to come through here, don't you, pal?

Speaker: You want me to end up writing a song about a theme park and a roller coaster.

Speaker: I ain't going to be going through there, son.

Speaker: Then I've just written what... I haven't seen this word written down like this since it was either the Viz or the Beano.

Speaker: Thwack.

Speaker: Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

Speaker: For those wondering, TH-W-W-W-W-A-C-K.

Speaker: Pred Fucked, and I quite like this as a good ending to this as a whole review.

Speaker: Pred Fucked, dot, dot, dot.

Speaker: Has a laugh about it.

Speaker: Boom, bang, boom, boom, bang, boom.

Speaker: Then Arnie, Trumpets of Glory.

Speaker: Yes.

Speaker: He gets his as he's coming out because you think, well, he's fucked because this is the bit with this.

Speaker: Obviously, he does well to recognize that he's about to blow himself up.

Speaker: Yeah, he's got the self-destruct thing, hasn't he?

Speaker: But he don't read Alien Nobhead.

Speaker: He don't read that.

Speaker: And he's also, in my head, I'd be going, how far have I got to get away from this?

Speaker: You know, like the Enola Gay when it drops this thing on Hiroshima.

Speaker: In their head, they were going, drop that, and then you've got about 40-odd seconds to get the fuck away from that.

Speaker: But still, no one knew.

Speaker: Arnie doesn't know it.

Speaker: He's just penning it, isn't he?

Speaker: He's just penning it straight through the woods.

Speaker: And then it seems... Penning it is running, right?

Speaker: Yeah, penning it or pegging it.

Speaker: Pegging it.

Speaker: Yeah, I remember pegging it, but that means something else in grown-up years now, doesn't it?

Speaker: Pegging.

Speaker: Yeah, it does.

Speaker: It does.

Speaker: It does.

Speaker: A lot of words do as you get older, like vicar.

Speaker: And then there's an extra action, because that girl, he says, Get to the chopper!

Speaker: You don't really see her or the injured guy who got hit by the log, and then all of a sudden they're in a chopper, and you say, that's alien, that's Predator actually driving it.

Speaker: Yeah, that's the guy who played Predator driving the thing.

Speaker: What's his name?

Speaker: Peter Hall.

Speaker: Kevin Peter Hall.

Speaker: Didn't even really escape them.

Speaker: And then, hang on.

Speaker: Then it's the greatest ending to any movie that's ever happened in the history of cinema.

Speaker: Because of the faces?

Speaker: No, the sitcom ending for the actors on the credits.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: They like turn and they're like, I'm doing it.

Speaker: It's got no sound.

Speaker: I was going to say, what the fuck are you doing?

Speaker: It's like Dan Fudge.

Speaker: Yeah, the turn to the camera and then the laugh kind of thing that they do.

Speaker: It's absolutely insane.

Speaker: I can't find, I can't find any explanation for that apart from they just fancied doing it.

Speaker: But Arnie doesn't do it.

Speaker: He's the only one that doesn't do it.

Speaker: His is a freeze.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Notice that because it's almost, and also I wanted the Predators to do it, but they didn't do it with him.

Speaker: Ha!

Speaker: That's it.

Speaker: Hands up.

Speaker: The shrill.

Speaker: Here's Predo.

Speaker: That hedgehog came at me pretty quick.

Speaker: He was covered in spikes, that mouse.

Speaker: On fire from a bush.

Speaker: You'd have killed him too if you didn't know what it was.

Speaker: I mean, this knobhead thought a wolf lived in his garden.

Speaker: It was a fox.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Could we try and find things online where the predator's mugging off life?

Speaker: Let's run out of milk again.

Speaker: What am I like?

Speaker: So yeah, we're going to, obviously there's a two and there's other predator films I know of that.

Speaker: I was going to say it right.

Speaker: All right.

Speaker: I'll tell you what, no, I'll save it till we've done the, done the ratings.

Speaker: This one for me, Mataz, Razzmatango, this is a solid seven for me.

Speaker: I think, I think it had a great cultural impact and Arnie's a little better at acting because he just plays Arnold Schwarzenegger and he can smoke.

Speaker: Um,

Speaker: But he is still a terrible actor.

Speaker: I thought Jesse Ventura was really watchable.

Speaker: And Carl Weathers adds a real element of proper to it because I think he's great.

Speaker: But then also having these Navy SEALs that are all a bit fucked in the head, I feel like is a real thing.

Speaker: I feel like that could happen.

Speaker: So yeah, seven.

Speaker: So for me, there are bendy fingers.

Speaker: There are... There's not a lot of characters, which I think helps it.

Speaker: I think if there's more, it would have been worse somehow.

Speaker: And obviously when you've got this kind of, it's almost a killer on the run kind of thing.

Speaker: It's like a haunted house.

Speaker: It's very much like the last girl type of thing we spoke about, wasn't it?

Speaker: There is almost someone left at the time.

Speaker: I actually think the female character isn't really needed in this and I'm not all one for always trying to get rid of that, but it was almost like it wasn't for those eighties films.

Speaker: It's not like they added an eye candy element to it in too much.

Speaker: I don't think, you know, obviously she, all her clothes are falling off for some reason.

Speaker: I guess it was the element of somebody who they were... Because this is it.

Speaker: She tells them what she's seen in... Is it Spanish she's speaking, I think it is.

Speaker: I can't actually remember what language they speak.

Speaker: And then they're like, well, that might be what she's saying.

Speaker: It turns out she could speak English all along anyway, so it's not like it was lost.

Speaker: You know, that kind of classic, oh, they'd have survived if they'd have understood the language.

Speaker: She was just being a master.

Speaker: She could have fucking told him.

Speaker: Do you know what I mean?

Speaker: Yeah, yeah.

Speaker: There's a great moment in that where from The Thing, the movie The Thing, which we should do on this show because I assume you've not seen it, where right at the start, there's some Norwegian guys going, hey, you don't want to bug her about with that.

Speaker: That's not real.

Speaker: That's the thing, that is.

Speaker: And because they're speaking Norwegian, you know, it's kind of, oh, go on, shake fist, shake fist.

Speaker: So, yeah, did you say eight?

Speaker: Eight and a half.

Speaker: Oh, mate.

Speaker: I'm chuffed for you.

Speaker: That's actually really made me happy.

Speaker: I feel like I've undersold it a little bit.

Speaker: What did you like about it?

Speaker: I can't go nine because nine is a special zone.

Speaker: That's getting up into proper.

Speaker: I think aliens are nine.

Speaker: Right.

Speaker: It's more arty and it's got more to it.

Speaker: It is still bubble gummy, but I just think it got to the point where it was going pretty quick.

Speaker: Didn't do too much shit.

Speaker: Good enemy, good premise in and out.

Speaker: Have a cigar.

Speaker: Eight and a half.

Speaker: Do you know what?

Speaker: That's actually really put a smile on my face because that movie for me is just, it's fun, right?

Speaker: It's just fun and you've had a good time watching it.

Speaker: Like, so, okay.

Speaker: So the question I was going to ask before the reviews was going to be, did it prompt you to want to watch some of the sequels?

Speaker: No.

Speaker: Oh.

Speaker: No, it's an eight and a half movie.

Speaker: You don't want to see him use that character again.

Speaker: No, because I think I've learned from film history that it's not always going to get better.

Speaker: I've not heard many people going, I should come around my mate.

Speaker: Let's put on a Predator 2.

Speaker: It's going to be amazing because we all love that film.

Speaker: You know what I mean?

Speaker: It's not like Empire Strikes Back where you go, that's an absolute fucking banger.

Speaker: Everyone talks about Predator.

Speaker: They don't talk about this.

Speaker: They don't talk about Grease 2, do they?

Speaker: What, call Ryan with Michelle Pfeiffer?

Speaker: I know, but they just don't.

Speaker: So my point is...

Speaker: That's why not.

Speaker: I kind of just want to leave it.

Speaker: If I'm going to wait 40 years to watch some shit like this, I'm just going to park that, leave that there, and then move on to the next one.

Speaker: This is where you and me are different.

Speaker: I went into a blood sport spiral.

Speaker: You must have been on crack because that is an awful film that you followed up with bad ones.

Speaker: I wanted to see if it got better and it just maintained the level of shite that it was.

Speaker: It really just annoyed me that I'd given up a good six, seven hours of my life watching this nonsense.

Speaker: But I imagine it's you.

Speaker: You were half an hour into Bloodsport 2 that it was still shit.

Speaker: Why did you continue?

Speaker: Because I've only ever shut down slash walked out of one movie in my life.

Speaker: I have to finish it.

Speaker: It's got to get better.

Speaker: No, I think that's taught you a lesson, Bloodsport.

Speaker: But no, that's probably my second highest one.

Speaker: It's not as good as Alien, I don't think.

Speaker: But it's a different film.

Speaker: It's a completely different film, of course.

Speaker: What about Alien versus Predator then?

Speaker: You don't fancy watching that?

Speaker: I don't think I'd want to see either of them lads lose.

Speaker: Your fans of both.

Speaker: Your fans of both.

Speaker: I think it would hurt me.

Speaker: Honestly, it'd be like two teams that I kind of don't give a shit about playing each other.

Speaker: Or two boxers that I think I kind of don't want to see either of you hurt.

Speaker: You know?

Speaker: So yeah, I don't know.

Speaker: But you know what I've got an extra big love for, and it's going to make it my thing to try and see if we can get the guys who made it to give us some sort of sponsorship, is Broforce, that game that we played.

Speaker: I just know who they are now.

Speaker: It makes more sense.

Speaker: Those who don't know, there's all these characters from back in the day of this where they'll call them something bro.

Speaker: So it'll be like bro-ing man for running man or something like Dutch will be Dutch bro.

Speaker: And you can bring them out and it's like a continuous thing.

Speaker: And I'm now knowing who they all are, which actually makes a great thing.

Speaker: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker: Like Indiana Brones and stuff like that, wasn't it?

Speaker: Yeah, yeah.

Speaker: But I definitely want to go and play that more once we've watched every arcade game ever, you know, every film ever done.

Speaker: So we've got a couple of things over for next time because somebody had said about, I think it was Elliot saying about us watching The Labyrinth, which he obviously didn't realize I've seen probably more than most films I've ever seen in my life.

Speaker: Maybe...

Speaker: 30 plus times I've seen The Labyrinth.

Speaker: I know almost every word, know every song, massive David Bowie fan.

Speaker: And you then shocked me to my core that I repeated it three times to Natalie, wasn't listening to me.

Speaker: Fudge has only seen 20 minutes of The Labyrinth.

Speaker: Don't you think that's fucking weird?

Speaker: Ignored.

Speaker: Did you hear what I just said?

Speaker: I was like, how have you only seen 20 minutes of The Labyrinth?

Speaker: Because it really fucked me off when you go, you don't want to go that way.

Speaker: That's where the castle is.

Speaker: I went, fuck all this.

Speaker: It just annoyed me.

Speaker: The thing where someone had said it in Norwegian, they didn't know Norwegian.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: Yeah.

Speaker: If I'd have known Norwegian, it would have been ruined for me.

Speaker: But I just, I couldn't, you know, like you talk about the things you knew before and stuff like that.

Speaker: I didn't know much about it.

Speaker: And I'm going to out myself here, right?

Speaker: I used to be terrified.

Speaker: You know, you randomly terrified of things when you were a kid, right?

Speaker: I used to be terrified of those big nose things that used to try and eat the fraggles.

Speaker: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker: I used to hide behind the settee on them.

Speaker: And things that I find funny now, you know, like you look back on The Muppet Show, right?

Speaker: And it's quite funny because it's a load of hippies making a program.

Speaker: Like The Muppet Show.

Speaker: Yeah, but to look at their minging, their dirty, their fur's not clean.

Speaker: And I used to go, oh, I don't like it.

Speaker: I never used to like it.

Speaker: I couldn't, it wasn't aesthetically pleasing to me as a child.

Speaker: And because everything in that movie changed,

Speaker: is along that vein.

Speaker: I just can't.

Speaker: I was like, a fucking puppet show.

Speaker: What the shit is this?

Speaker: So that's the response of somebody who was actually, like me, quite scared of it.

Speaker: I was quite scared of the Labyrinth.

Speaker: The Dark Crystal's even worse because that's actually really dark.

Speaker: That's a 12, I think, whereas the Labyrinth's a PG.

Speaker: The Rynth has obviously got some absolute bangers from Bowie that you should have put on other albums.

Speaker: They're actually top class tunes which you'll enjoy.

Speaker: You need to look out for a lot of things like the Fireys and some of the Goblins.

Speaker: Actually, to this day,

Speaker: um and there was a thing there's a Jim Henson museum where you can go and they've got a lot of the puppets in the in cases and some of the ones are in that I've seen her in a case and I was like I don't think I could go around that corner very easily because they've haunted my dreams since I was a kid they're nightmarish they're ghoulish they're very brotherly grim in lots of ways and if you see some of the original drawings and stuff how they did they look honestly like something out of a fucking nightmare um so I'll tell you what we'll do next week we'll switch it on its head Dan will watch the labyrinth um

Speaker: Or the rinth, as I call it.

Speaker: So are you going to tell me all about it and I tell you the things I knew before and give you notes going through it?

Speaker: Oh, I mean, yeah, I don't even have to do a tech run.

Speaker: I can tell you everything about this fucking film already.

Speaker: In fact, I could probably talk you through the whole thing.

Speaker: Yes, absolutely.

Speaker: So next week it will be the films that Dan wasn't allowed to see because of his fear of puppets that are filthy.

Speaker: He likes clean puppets, does this lad?

Speaker: I like my puppets clean.

Speaker: That's it.

Speaker: We'll see you next week.