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Daily Manchester United - Episode 115 - Goodbye Goodison
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Kieran and Tom review the 2-2 draw against Everton in our last visit to Goodison (as far as we know!)
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Match Overview: Manchester United vs Everton
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Hello everyone and welcome back to the Daily Manchester United. Happy Monday. It's a draw. We're a point higher than we were from the last
Critical Game Analysis: Performance and Penalties
00:00:18
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match. Yes, we're here after the 2-0 draw against Everton where it took 70 minutes for the players to turn up, but when they did turn up, boy did we get a match.
00:00:27
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My name's Kieran and I'm joined by the fabulous Tom Cairns today. Tom, we're here to just react to the game, give our raw reaction to it, and it sounds like there's going to be a lot to talk about today.
00:00:36
Tom Cairns
Well, yes, there is a lot to talk about. And perhaps we came away with more than we ever would desire. So, yes, ah think overall it wasn't a good performance, but we came away with more than what we bargained for.
00:00:49
Tom Cairns
and But we got very, very lucky at the end. I thought we got away with one there. I didn't think it was a penalty from my side, but I still don't think it was enough of a clear-cut obvious error from what the referee had given to begin with.
00:01:00
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Yeah, and we'll have a full discussion about that
First Half Breakdown: Defensive Errors and Everton's Dominance
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later on. We'll start at the very start. Luckily, as most games are with Manchester United, it really was a game of two halves. The first half, Everton were all over us.
00:01:13
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And let's face it, that first goal, utter shambles, is what I would call that goal. How many times does somebody have an opportunity to clear the ball away? and either it's scuffed or it's scraped or, you know, someone completely misses it. The header just goes about three yards up in the air. Yeah.
00:01:29
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It was a mess, an absolute mess.
00:01:32
Tom Cairns
Oh, it was a mess. It feels like a repeat of the Everton-Liverpool game of last season for the first Everton goal, if you remember where. I think Liverpool had about four chances to clear the ball and they never got it away. That's what it felt like for ah for the first goal against us um on Saturday.
00:01:47
Tom Cairns
So we had like four opportunities to clear it. Delo had a mare in trying to clear of it. I think Dorgo tried to clear it as well. and But I think Matsurari and I think someone else may have tried to clear it as well.
00:01:59
Tom Cairns
So it was just awful.
Focus on Individual Errors and Everton's Strong Play
00:02:00
Tom Cairns
I think it might have been Maguire who tried to head it away as well. But, you know, but for some reason, I think Beto got on the end of it and put it away easily. And there was just no chance for Inanna to save that.
00:02:11
Tom Cairns
ah But for the second goal, what was Maguire doing to begin with?
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um
00:02:15
Tom Cairns
And leaving, I think it was it Harrison who was left on Martz and then Decore got the rebound after the initial parry away from Inanna. So that first half performance for Manchester United was absolutely inept.
00:02:29
Tom Cairns
I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe the amount of energy that Everton had, which you could have predicted going into the game. think it's a shame from their point of view that that energy wasn't carried over into the second half because had they got an early goal in the second half, Everton, it would have been curtains.
00:02:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
no Yeah, absolutely. I think we were very lucky to only be too ill there. But I think Inanna doesn't help himself in that second goal. you know He's been called into question and it's happened a couple of times this season where Inanna has parried the ball back into the path of another strike or back into the path of the 6-yard 12-yard box.
00:03:05
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That you know that is is not going to do it. you know If you parry it, at least parry out for a corner or parry it out so it goes out for a throw or anything. But instead, he parries it back where it came from or back out in front of him, which yeah know when when we've got strikers that we're coming up against that react so quickly, much quicker than any of our defence...
00:03:24
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it it just calls into question. It's one of those, again, where our defence is just sort of looking over their shoulders and wondering how Beto's found himself in this acre. it Well, it's not quite an acre of space, but it might as well have been to be able to finish the first goal, get that second goal off. And it's just, yeah, it's
Second Half Improvements: Key Player Contributions
00:03:39
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a little bit frustrating. So it's Decoré who gets that second goal. When does Decoré score?
00:03:43
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Seems unfair, but it is what it is.
00:03:45
Tom Cairns
yeah
00:03:46
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It is what it is.
00:03:47
Tom Cairns
Yeah. It feels like players don't score in other games, but yet they score against us.
00:03:51
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It's a free goal, isn't it, Tom?
00:03:52
Tom Cairns
yet Yeah, it it feels like the days of Granit Xhaka when he was at Arsenal.
00:03:53
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Yeah.
00:03:56
Tom Cairns
It's like any other club he wouldn't score against, he would score against us. So, yeah, that's...
00:04:00
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Arsenal catching strays there. that's ah
00:04:02
Tom Cairns
Yeah.
00:04:03
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That'll go down well.
00:04:04
Tom Cairns
Yeah. Well, I stand by what I say. ah ahs so But that first half performance above all was just one of the worst i've seen for you United. to I'm surprised it didn't end up 3-0 down in all honesty. But bearing in mind, overall throughout the match, not just in the first half, there weren't really that many shots when you think of it.
00:04:23
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Yeah, I'm trying to think, actually, because I don't really think Pickford had a lot to do in the Everton goal. I mean, ah I'm just having a trot look at some stats here. It's 18 shots across both teams, divided equally.
00:04:36
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So nine shots apiece. um And yeah, it was just, it was one of those. But Everton did get bodies in the way. that was That was the main thing. They got bodies in the way. they got ah Whenever there was a chance for Pickford to make a save, well he had three shots on target to deal with and two of them went in.
00:04:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
We'll talk about the goals we scored in the second half later on. But you know the first half, there was that shot of Ruben Ambram on the sideline. i don't know if you I don't know if you saw the cut, Tom. It was about 40 minutes in and he has a face like thunder.
00:05:10
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um And you can hardly blame him because what was there? what Apart from Dorgu giving some real positive energy down
Goals and Tactical Shifts in the Second Half
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that left-hand side and being able to get some crosses in, there wasn't really a lot to shout about in this in that first half.
00:05:23
Tom Cairns
No, I mean, Dorky was by far our best player in the first half. The link I played between him and Fernandes was fantastic to see. It's just shame that Dorky's crosses weren't exactly the same to be talked about. um So he definitely needs to work on the quality of his crossing if we're going to see more of that from him.
00:05:41
Tom Cairns
And hopefully someone like Hoyland or Cersei will get on the end of those. so So I think that will be something for the training ground. um i mean, they've only got a few days before the home match game, so it's switch, really. So that might be an opportunity, really, for Dorgid to put that right.
00:05:54
Tom Cairns
But yeah, but he's he had a better performance on Saturday, did Dorgid, than he did in the previous games.
00:05:55
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Oh, yes.
00:06:00
Tom Cairns
And I'm really happy to see that.
00:06:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, no, I agree. I agree. it definitely works down the left-hand side. And, you know, without Garnaccio starting, of course, he does come on in the second half again. That's for later. But when Dorgue was down there on that left-hand side, he wanted that ball. And you could see... The the likes of Fernandes and Nogate giving him the ball and giving him that freedom down the left-hand side to do what he wanted to do, to run forward, to ask questions of his opposite number. And he was asking those questions. And there were some decent crosses into the box. Unfortunately, he's crossed them into Hoyland, who is...
00:06:33
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A little bit devoid of confidence. He doesn't have a lot of service anyway. I think he was surprised that he was actually getting crosses into the box into the first place. And I think that that is something that you United have lacked. It's a case of actually getting the ball into the box. Sometimes we're sort of afraid to get into that box for whatever reason.
00:06:51
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And I think that, you know, that... attitude where everyone's scared to make that final pass and to lose the ball just those shows how fragile we are that we know how vulnerable we are on the counter and it's just that that shows how we're going forward we're a bit hesitant to do anything
00:07:10
Tom Cairns
Yeah, well, it feels like we struggled to put together a string of passes to begin with anyway. Whereas with Everton, they are they're just different class.
00:07:16
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that's yeah
00:07:18
Tom Cairns
They were different class in the first half in putting together a string of passes and getting the ball back whenever they lost it, which is very typical of Everton from the first spell of David Moyes when he was there.
00:07:30
Tom Cairns
Players like Kevin Morales, Leighton Baines, Seamus Coleman, all those types of players, would be very, very good at getting the ball back as soon as they lost it. That's what they did on Saturday.
00:07:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah Yeah, no, absolutely fair enough. Beto scores another goal. um i was hit I think it was on the commentary, they said to to Beto had then scored five goals in his last four games and then said, but in his previous 44, he'd scored five.
00:07:59
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it's unbelievable. That man is in such such rich vein of form and it's no wonder Everton are starting to really get their way up the table. um But yeah, that was pretty much the first half. It was all Everton and as you said, they were absolute pressing machines.
Garnaccio's Impact Off the Bench
00:08:13
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The likes of Gay, Decore, Garner were all closing downs, especially Idrissa Garner-Gay. He was absolutely alert to every situation. He was making it so difficult to actually pass through the middle of the park. Decore as well.
00:08:25
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I always know how good of a holding midfielder when Decore has a good game. yeah He is unshakable in that midfield. And it had to take something in that second half, aum which which we will discuss. But man, it was a bit deflating going into halftime.
00:08:41
Tom Cairns
ah It was. And that rinsing from Ruben Amrum was exactly what the United players needed. And I don't think we've seen enough of that from Amrum so far, but it proved to be inspiring going into the second half, even though it did take time.
00:08:55
Tom Cairns
United got their, won't obviously use any cultural language, but they managed to get their act together and actually yeah pull out all the sops. But think from the moment the first goal from Fernandes went in,
00:09:07
Tom Cairns
it really galvanised them. And they went and quickly got the second one um on the soon after.
00:09:13
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Well, you United side will be galvanised when we come back after this short break to talk more about the second half.
Controversial Penalty Decision and VAR Discussion
00:10:15
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Well, whatever rocket was ignited by Amerim after that halftime team talk, it was it was a slightly different ti- looking team. It was the same group of players, but for some reason they started passing the ball around. And I don't know whether it was a case of United gained a little bit more confidence or were a bit inspired and perhaps Everton was starting to tire.
00:10:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
Maybe a little bit of both, but the game changes, not at the first... bruno fernandez attempt of a free kick the handball's given from free kick that's about 35 yards out or maybe closer 30 yards out then we get a free kick from about 25 24 yards out and i almost couldn't believe the goal ah he'd actually scored was like bruno fernandez has scored from a free kick we don't score from free kicks what is this wizardry going on there could i had to double take
00:11:03
Tom Cairns
Yeah, I'm trying to remember the last time Bruno had scored from a free kick. But I think it came down to the where Pickford's positioning was. Because the problem is when you see a goalkeeper make one move to the right with his right foot, you lose momentum at that point anyway. the ball was well and truly going past him because he would have thought that the ball was going into his right hand side and not his left.
00:11:28
Tom Cairns
Well, the wall, ah don't think the wall even moved. I don't know if you saw it, or maybe the wall did move, or part of the wall did move, but the ball was well away from it, and it was to Pickford's left-hand side.
00:11:39
Tom Cairns
And so...
00:11:39
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Yeah. Well, it's it's not a case it didn't move. it was It was stationary. It was where Pickford had wanted it, but Fernandes had curled it round the wall. And it was just this gaping hole on the on the on Bruno's right that he could try and slot the ball into.
00:11:55
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And it's almost as if Pickford was just not expecting it. You know, when you set up a wall, you're expecting... the you know free kick taker to go over the wall. And that didn't happen. And as you said, with Pickford
Player Performance Ratings and Analysis
00:12:06
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expecting the ball to go one way, because his momentum shifted, he can't do anything at that point. He's left absolutely stranded.
00:12:13
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And a goal to get us back into the game. And then ah it's a nice free kick, though, I have to admit. you You see it from the reverse angle. It's a very, very nice free kick from Fernandes, placing it beautifully. And then scoring his first goal for Manchester United, step forward Manuel Agate.
00:12:28
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absolute, ah i won't I won't call it a thunderbolt, but it was a shot from distance ah from sort of a rebound. And again, i had to double take. Agathe scored that. Well, somehow it's two all in the space of eight minutes.
00:12:41
Tom Cairns
It's almost like the days of Nemanja Matic all over again with that quality of strike. Although accept the fact that Matic's long-wage shot against ah Crystal Palace it was. In fact, it was his first goal for United as well, Nemanja Matic.
00:12:53
Tom Cairns
That's what it maybe felt like a little bit, even though it was only for an equaliser, not for a last-minute winner. It would have been incredible if it was a last-minute winner. but ah But no, it was a quality strike from Ugarte. The way he controlled it and then volleyed it.
00:13:06
Tom Cairns
was um sensational, um which not a lot of defensive midfielders would be able to do. Not only getting the shot away, but to keep it on target, keeping it low, was um was something quite special there for Igarto. So very, very happy for him.
00:13:19
Tom Cairns
We didn't even think before the match had started that he'd be within the matchday squad, because he was out in the last game against Spurs.
00:13:24
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yeah
00:13:26
Tom Cairns
And from what me and Niall were talking about on our show in the week, we didn't think that Igarto would be involved at all, because we thought he was going out for some time. But Thankfully, he was in the starting lineup and he came up with the goods.
00:13:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, it was the same for us when we sort of put together a a sort of combined 11, or not combined 11, a predicted 11, where we had sort of thought, well, if these injuries are for three, four weeks, we're we're down to the bare bones for a little bit. But we saw back on the bench ah the likes of Christian Eriksen. Garnaccio was back on the bench there as well. Chido Obi-Martin.
00:14:04
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I think we have to talk about the substitutes as well, because Garnaccio came on 62nd minute, on for Casemiro, And, you know, chasing the game at that point when we're 2-0 down.
00:14:15
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And I think Garnaccio completely changed it. He just gave us a completely new dynamic and he got a couple of shots away. But again, Garnaccio has got to... I thought he got himself into good positions.
00:14:28
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But when you get yourself into those positions, at least take the shots on. He had a couple blocked, but there were a couple more opportunities. here i thought I think he could just pull the trigger a little bit earlier and get the shot away.
00:14:39
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ah But again, he had his head down for quite a lot of it. And he wanted to be the one that that got the goal or got a goal. And I can understand as a as a youngster, yeah you know, you want your name in the in the back pages, but you've got realise at that point when you're on the pitch, 2-0 down, 2-1 down, where it's 2-0, you've got to think bigger a picture um at that point. But I can't fault a man for trying because he did change the game for us.
00:15:03
Tom Cairns
He did, and he he seems to inspire us more when he's coming off the bench as opposed to starting. When he started against Spurs, he didn't put his chances away. And whenever he tried to put the chances away, ended missing pretty much a sitter, really, especially in the first half against Spurs, where he had a decent angle to get the shot away or at least get it on target.
00:15:24
Tom Cairns
And it just went into the row's head. Whereas in the Everton one, as he came on as a sub, he was a totally different player. And so I think that's something that Emmerim will need to consider going forward. Is Garnetto better spark coming off the bench as opposed to starting?
00:15:42
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Yeah. I mean, yeah, as you say, it's a difficult question. I'll let you finish there, Tom. I've rudely interrupted.
00:15:48
Tom Cairns
It's okay. I was just saying, because we have two attacking midfielders now instead of the two wingers, because we all know Garnaccio tends to play on that wing anyway. um Because it was it was it was Hoyland and the nine, Xerxe and Fernandes, I think it was, because we had Ugarte and Casemiro to begin with in CDM.
00:16:06
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Correct.
00:16:09
Tom Cairns
Garnaccio, as we know, can play on the in an attacking midfield role anyway. And um yeah, he was just a different kettle of fish really compared to what he was against Spurs. And I'm really glad to see him come up with ah the goods really. We just need to see that more of him it when he whenever he's starting. And I don't feel we're getting in that yet.
00:16:27
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and And also because of that change to bring Garnaccio on, it dropped Bruno deeper, which again is something that Amrim wants. You can see he wants to play Bruno deeper. And I think right now, Fernandes is playing better football deeper in the role. i it for For some reason, for someone who's been so good attacking and and getting us our goals, he was our joint top goal scorer last season. And he's always there for the goal here and there to to save our bacon if we need it.
00:16:53
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he was playing better football in that game from the deeper role. And i feel like in that midfield where it was congested and you had the likes of Decore and Gay chasing down every blade of grass, you needed someone with that calm and composure to pick out a pass. And by dropping Bruno deeper, I felt like we did have a couple more options ah going forward there. um But then we have to talk about...
00:17:17
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the very last action of the game, and pretty much the very last action of the game. Ref points the spot. I thought clear as day, it's a penalty. And then VAR comes in and says, have another look at that.
00:17:28
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And it's overturned. I'm just, again, it was one of those, risk a third double take of the match for me rounded off my hat trick. How's that not been given?
00:17:38
Tom Cairns
Yeah, well, i looking back on the replays, I didn't think it was a foul. I didn't think it was enough contact for it to be a penalty. But at the same time, I don't think it would have enough to be given as a clear-cut, obvious error.
00:17:53
Tom Cairns
And this is the problem now, is people have always have different definitions as to how much contact there should be in order for a penalty to be warranted. As we know in the modern day, just because there's contact involved does not mean a penalty should be given.
00:18:09
Tom Cairns
There was two tugs on Ashley Young shirt, one from DeLitt and the second one from Maguire. But I think the second tug came as Young was going to ground anyway.
00:18:20
Tom Cairns
And I think the way that Young went to ground, as we often saw him do at United, which sounds a bit hypocritical of us to say.
00:18:29
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the guy with that
00:18:30
Tom Cairns
Yeah. I didn't think it was enough to be warranted a penalty because I felt he went down too unnaturally for me. And i think that's what made Andy Madley's mind up by going to the VAR screen and saying, you know what?
00:18:46
Tom Cairns
I don't think there's enough contacts in that. know if I'm in it.
00:18:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
I just think, though, if you've got so a hold of someone's shirt, you're asking for trouble. You are so asking for trouble because you've seen those given. And in some cases, you've seen VAR not overturn it. And I was thinking that perhaps VAR was not going to overturn it and not intervene because of a lack of evidence. And this is where, even though the the but the decision benefited us, I think for the good of football, there needs to be a timer on how long either stop the clock or to allow us to have as long as we need, or it's 30 seconds.
00:19:21
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If in 30 seconds you can't prove that there is there is substantial evidence to overturn the decision, then it's got to go. Because otherwise, we we spent, what, was it three minutes, two and a half minutes, three minutes coming to a decision? That was the same for the Everton's first goal. It came to three minutes. And, you know, you're just sort of thinking this game really is slow to slowed down quite a bit.
00:19:42
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um I mean, the recommendation for the penalty was for Madley to look at the screen, a recommendation to review it. So I guess you could see it from that point of view. But Yeah, it's it's got to be quicker. And if if it takes you longer than 30 seconds or a minute to actually get to that decision, surely it's not clear and obvious.
00:20:01
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that but That was always my thinking of that that statement in the in the rules.
00:20:05
Tom Cairns
Yeah, well, it's easy enough to say 30 seconds, but sometimes it mainly a little bit longer. But I do agree that the decisions need to be quicker than what they are, because otherwise we're going to end up having stoppage time of what we had in the World Cup, where I think but for England's game against Iran, I think we had something ridiculous like 14 minutes of stoppage time um because of an injury that was there.
00:20:09
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Hmm.
00:20:17
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Hmm.
00:20:26
Tom Cairns
But yeah, it I think there's something that needs to be resolved on this one. I think that we were meant to implement this new semi-automated offside thing as well alongside, I think, the penalty decisions anyway. But the penalty decision has to be handled by a human being anyway, as opposed to just relying on technology to do that.
00:20:46
Tom Cairns
Because technology, as we all know, is not always accurate.
00:20:50
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Yes, goal line technology is pretty accurate as long as Villa Park turn theirs on. ah
00:20:56
Tom Cairns
Yeah. And the yeah John Smith Stadium.
00:20:57
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oh
00:20:59
Tom Cairns
when Huddersfield against Blackpool, I think it was. And i think Huddersfield were robbed of a goal that should have been given.
00:21:05
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Ah, yes. It always works when it turns on, eh? Anyway, we've got to turn on the show as well because we've got to rate the players after this short
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Okay, let's start off with an Andre Onana in our player ratings. Out of 10, avoid decimals if you can, make it even trickier. Andre Onana, I'm going to give a four. I think he made ah he made a couple of good saves, but in both those goals, he needed to have a bigger hand in in controlling the situation.
00:22:14
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That first goal, he should be jumping up and trying to at least take control of the situation. It showed a lack of command of the area. It It showed a lack of communication in general, but you need someone who can actually see forward to say, right, I've got to go for this.
00:22:29
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And the second one, he's he's got to be doing better than parrying it straight in front of him or straight up in the air. He's got to get that away or catch it, whatever. um So it's a four for from me. It sounds harsh, but I'm sticking with it
00:22:42
Tom Cairns
I'm going to go with you on that as well, Kieran. I thought Narnia had a game to forget overall. And I don't think he... Like you say, he didn't parry the shots well away as well as he needs to have done. um And, um yeah, I think something on the training ground, I think, that Amorin needs to address to him, that he needs to try and work on that a little bit more.
00:23:02
Tom Cairns
But, you know, considering the two goals involved it... And what you've remember is that penalty one as well, that I think... Well, I didn't think it was a penalty to begin with, but you know, if it was given, we have to remember what contributes to that penalty. It was that parry of the save from Onana that Ashley Young tried to get on the end of.
00:23:20
Tom Cairns
So that's another reason why Onana had a game to forget, but I'm going to go with a four as well for him.
00:23:26
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Okay, ah it' it' so we're all agreeing with each other at the moment. We get to the back line then. Masraoui, who was subbed off in the 70th minute. I thought it was a rare quiet game for Masraoui.
00:23:38
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He had a quiet one and not a lot happened. And he seemed to get out-muscled quite a bit. I don't know if he picked up a knock because a couple of times that game, he went to ground and had to be assessed by ah the medics and whatnot.
00:23:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
Maybe that was one of the reasons why he was subbed off. But it was a quiet game for him. struggle whether a four or five because I'm going to have to be quite harsh here because it it was a rare bad game for him.
00:24:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
not well Yeah, okay, I'm going to say with it. It was a rare, quiet and not so great game for him.
00:24:06
Tom Cairns
Well, it was an anonymous one for him because I don't think he really contributed. ah he didn't really contribute a lot for me, did Mats Rory. I mean, he didn't clear the corner away as well, which led to the first goal.
00:24:20
Tom Cairns
And yeah, he got outmuscled a lot by the likes of Harrison and Takare and Beto in the first half, especially. So he's certainly not gained more than a five.
00:24:33
Tom Cairns
Would I say he had a better game than Inanna did?
00:24:38
Tom Cairns
ah I know you said no decimals involved in this, but...
00:24:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh, he's already breaking the rule.
00:24:42
Tom Cairns
ah is is a Is it this unwritten rule where we're not allowed to have decimals in the ratings?
00:24:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
No, I've just come down with an iron fist. Use decimal if you want. I'll i'll slightly judge you.
00:24:53
Tom Cairns
Well, I do honestly think you had a better game than Unana, so i'm going to go four and a half.
00:24:57
Tom Cairns
some
00:24:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
Four and a half.
00:24:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
year okay ah Yeah.
00:24:58
Tom Cairns
Yeah.
00:24:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
because I'm going to stick by decimal, no decimals. I'm going to five. But it it's only because he did, you know, I think Andre didn't have a great game and he has been struggling recently.
00:25:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
And for Maserawi, he may have been carrying a knock. but I don't know what it it was, but yeah, it was a quiet one for him. Matthias De Ligt, again, quiet. I didn't think he he showed his best today.
00:25:22
Tom Cairns
He didn't show his best, but I thought he had a better game of it than he did against Tottenham. um I mean, there was a time in the second half where passed it back to Inanna, which went out for a corner, which wasn't particularly good.
00:25:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
but
00:25:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yes.
00:25:33
Tom Cairns
But there were moments where I thought he stood his ground really, really well. um I will say that he gets a five from me ah for his performance.
00:25:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think that's fair. Yeah, vi five is is fair, I think. ah Maguire. For someone who's so dominant in the air... um Yeah, I struggled with that one.
00:25:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
You know, he he tried to claim a penalty when no one else thought it was. Instantly, it's a bit like, come on, that's a bit desperate, Harry, come on. Again, quiet one for him. As someone as ah commanding as him as well, not to be able to get the ball away. For someone who's so good in the air, I think another five for me.
00:26:14
Tom Cairns
i I'm going to go with a four on this one, Kieran.
00:26:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm?
00:26:16
Tom Cairns
I thought Maguire, for once this season, he just struggled to cope with Harrison, Decorey and Beto. You know, those in particular were always going to be throwing everything at him.
00:26:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:26:29
Tom Cairns
And he was out of position for the second goal when he was focusing more on where the ball was and not envisaging where Harrison was going to be ending up in the penalty area. So he just basically left the middle part that back three completely open.
00:26:43
Tom Cairns
And he just didn't defend his lines as well as he needed to have done. So Maguire, for me, he's getting a four out of ten.
00:26:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:26:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
and Okay. i'll stick I said five, so I'll stick with five for our number five. ah Right, midfielders then. And we are counting sort of wingbacks, if you like, in this one. Patrick Dorgou, I think, honestly, he was voted as man of the... Bruno Fernandes was voted as man match. But to be honest with Patrick Dorgou was great, I thought. He's getting a seven from me. He was very positive down that left-hand side.
00:27:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
Possibly one of the only players who actually put in a good shift in the first 45.
00:27:18
Tom Cairns
I couldn't agree more. He was outstanding for United in that first half. He looked comfortable on that left-hand side. i wasn't sure whether he would be able to, considering the likes of the Everton back five that they had. Because like what we have, or what we had, i think they had a back five as well with three centre-halves and two windbacks.
00:27:35
Tom Cairns
You had O'Brien on the right-hand side, I think, and on the left-hand side, I'm trying to remember who was left windback for Everton in the match.
00:27:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
would have been Michalenko.
00:27:44
Tom Cairns
It may well have been, yes, yeah it was Mikalenka who was playing on that left-hand side. But it seemed to be that Dogu had coached really well. And the link-up play between him and Fernandes in that first half, especially, was was fantastic to see.
00:27:57
Tom Cairns
And I'm going to go with a seven as well, because I thought Dogu was by far our best player in the match.
00:28:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I agree. I agree. I think he was very positive and I look forward to seeing even more of that from the youngster. Diogo Dallo, on the other hand, again, another quiet one for him. I don't know what it is. i don't know if it's a lack of confidence or what have you, but I think he's getting a five from me. He did struggle in this game and I think multiple times he was caught and A lot of plays came down the left-hand side wing.
00:28:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
so Again, it's something you need Dallow to sort of lock down on. And if he is an attacking fullback, he at least needs to you know provide the crosses. I just don't think he was at his best.
00:28:35
Tom Cairns
He really struggled and he didn't look comfortable either, did Delo. and And I think in a game of its magnitude at Goodison Park, which is, it's not hostile, but it's a very, very very difficult ground to go and get a result at, even though Everton over the course of the season haven't been fantastic. It's their run of form recently. That's what's made them so formidable right now.
00:28:55
Tom Cairns
um Delo gets a 4 out of 10.
00:28:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, OK. like I'm not going to disagree with that. Ugarte, who I think as part of that holding midfield was not great in that first half. I think his performance is recovered because his goal was the equaliser. For that reason, I'm giving him a six.
00:29:12
Tom Cairns
I'm going to go with that as well. i'll say i think, like you say, struggled to cope with the set pieces, um but made up for it in the second half and galvanised that Manchester United team soon they got the equaliser.
00:29:24
Tom Cairns
They tried to go and get a winner after that as well, and I think he played a key role in that. So a 6 out of 10 is what he gets from me.
00:29:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
On the other hand, though, Casemiro. Again, someone who technically is is quite good. But in a game like this where we needed energy, he was he was going to struggle in this. A five from me.
00:29:43
Tom Cairns
I'm toying between a five and a five and a half, but if you're insisting on no decimals, i'm going to go five.
00:29:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's just a made-up rule, but I love it. I love it we're trying to stick to it. Bruno Fernandes then, Captain Fernandes. I think he... ah I think he was creative in that first half, but nowhere near as good as he we know he can be. He came alive in that second half. A great free kick.
00:30:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
Am I going to put him as high as Dorgou?
00:30:07
Tom Cairns
I think you've got to really, because he got, yeah.
00:30:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah think I think have, yeah. Seven for me then.
00:30:12
Tom Cairns
7 out of 10 for Fernandes from me as well. I thought he ah think he led the team for once, and did Bruno, and just gave them a little bit more energy than they did in the first half, because going back to what we said about Dorgue, the link-up play between him and Dorgue, and maybe Casemiro played a part in that as well with the passing between him um himself and Dorgi but Fernandes for me was one of the bright sparks for United and so he gets certain out of 10 for me fantastic performance from Bruno overall
00:30:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
Zerxy then, who I've always said, oh we should try him in a little bit of a deeper role. Had some moments, but not enough for me to sort of say, wow, that was a great performance. I think it was i think it's a five from me for Zerxy.
00:30:58
Tom Cairns
I'm going disagree with you I'm going to say four or four and a half. I'm going to say four and a half because I know I've only had one decimal rating for... can't remember who it was that I put a decimal for. But ah but for me, Xerxes really struggled again.
00:31:12
Tom Cairns
ah just don't think he provided anything or or offered anything um in the role that he was given. think he was playing on the right-hand side of the attacking midfield compared to... Who was it that was playing on the left attacking midfield?
00:31:23
Tom Cairns
Was it Bruno who was playing there to begin?
00:31:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
Bruno to start with, yeah.
00:31:25
Tom Cairns
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I honestly think Circe didn't provide anything or offer anything. So, do know what I'm going to drop it down to a four because i think in that role, you need to offer and service the likes of Hoyland a little bit more. and i don't think Circe did that.
00:31:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
I feel generous now, but I'm sticking with it. You know what? I'll argue you about it in the comments. Hoyland then.
00:31:48
Tom Cairns
um
00:31:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah don't really think I need to say more, do I?
00:31:50
Tom Cairns
No, well, you could argue, do you think it's the fact that he hasn't been given the service of which he needs? Or is it the fact that he just hasn't got the energy right now and he hasn't got the confidence within himself right now, hasn't got the motivation within himself right now?
00:32:05
Tom Cairns
um It's a four out ten.
00:32:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:32:08
Tom Cairns
eba He was dreadful all game before he got subbed off for Chido Roby. So, Hoyland, four out ten, provided nothing.
00:32:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:32:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
I feel harsh giving him a 4 out 10 if I gave Joshua a 5. I've set myself up here. um Yeah, I think as a main attacking outlet, I think it has to be a 4, I'm afraid. I like Rasmus Hoyland and I'll always be biased towards him, but I can't disguise the fact that he is struggling and we need to acknowledge that.
00:32:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah Quickly then for our substitutes, made three of them. Garnaccio coming on in the second, 62nd minute. I'll give him a six. He changed the game for us. I think would have been high if he capped off a goal or yeah got an assist in there, but six out of 10 from me in that short spell.
00:32:53
Tom Cairns
He provided a bit of energy, didn't he? And he um got some of those who had been struggling throughout the game. eat They stepped up a little bit, thanks to him. So 6 out of 10 is what I'll go for as well.
00:33:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
Cheeto Obi-Martin, I thought, again, this is going to sound harsh. I'm going to give him a five, but he's showing some promise there. And I tell you what, if he gets that turn right, what was it? seventy fifth 75th, 76th minute, roughly. He gets the turn on there, but he miscontrols it and it bobbles straight to Pickford.
00:33:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
Give him a couple more games, a couple more senior minutes. He's able to get that turn and try and get shot away. There's promising signs there from Cheeto Obi-Martin, but I'm giving him a five today.
00:33:32
Tom Cairns
Yeah, I was happy that got the minutes of which he should have got against Spurs the weekend before. So five out of 10 is what my default rating would always be. So he gets that from for me. But hopefully in the game against Ipswich, I can see him maybe starting. and you know I think Hoyland could do with dropping to the bench and just watching, see how Chido Obi does.
00:33:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
And then we made that substitution Lenny Yoro coming on for Masurawi. What did you make of it?
00:33:59
Tom Cairns
it looked an ominous, to be honest with you, did Yoro, from my end. i don't know if you saw anything which caught your eye about Yoro from when he came on.
00:34:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
I have to say, no I think we it was all attacking. So I think it was anonymous, but for not it's not essentially the wrong reasons because we were all attacked. There were a couple of attacks from Everton towards the end of the game that we dealt with.
00:34:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think I'm giving him a five. I think he was anonymous, but not for the wrong reasons, if you so if that makes any sense.
00:34:25
Tom Cairns
I'll go with that as well, Kieran. Yoro gets a 5 out of 10 from me.
00:34:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
So there you go. How right or wrong did we get our ratings? Only you can decide because you're right. There you go. Well, thank you, Tom, for joining me. It's been a it's been nice. we've got a point.
00:34:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
I didn't expect that 45 minutes into the into the game.
00:34:44
Tom Cairns
yeah Well, hopefully we can put on a better show, which we should do against Ipswich, who have been struggling so much, especially, yeah i think, away from home, they've not been great. And they got absolutely annihilated by Tottenham um at the weekend. They were just second best overall. So we should take advantage of that and put on a much more convincing performance. If we do that, that may put us in the right frame of mind for our cup games against Fulham and Real Sociedad.
00:35:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
Big couple of weeks coming up. Big few games coming up that we need some good performances in. And well, as as Tom said, next match is up against Ipswich at Old Trafford. It's half past seven on Wednesday, the 26th of February on TNT Sports 4.
00:35:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
four Hell, the mighty have fallen. Anyway, thank you so much for listening to today's podcast. i Hope you have a great rest of your Monday. You can follow us on all the social medias. It's GSPN Man United.
00:35:38
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00:35:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
From us here, from myself and Tom, it's been a pleasure to at least unpack a draw. And hopefully we get a couple more points against Ipswich. Let's all hold our breath. But in the meantime, enjoy the rest of your Monday and we'll talk to you soon.
00:36:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
Bye-bye.