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It's Black History Month, and we're proud to recognize the achievements, contributions, and history of Black individuals and their communities in the healthcare landscape. To celebrate and spread a little knowledge, April and Alicia talk through trivia about some lesser-known figures who pushed healthcare innovation forward - despite having all odds stacked against them due to the color of their skin. Tune in for some education, reflection, and lighthearted competition!
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February's Arrival and Weather Chat

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I won last week.
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You did.
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I did.
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Yeah.
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And everybody actually voted.
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I would.
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So our audience knows as well.
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But in all seriousness, it is black history.
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Or you paid them to vote.
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And in all seriousness, no, just kidding.
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It's possible.
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This is on call.
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This would be really cool to just wear scrubs all the time.
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Then you don't have to think about what you're going to wear to work.
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We're here to answer your questions.
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We can sit down and discuss them.
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Wait, I gotta go.
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I'm on call.
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Wait, you're on call?
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I thought I was on call.
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Welcome back, everyone, to another episode of On Call with April and Alicia.
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I'm April.
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And I'm Alicia.
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And April, it's February!
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It is.
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Welcome to February, everybody.
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We made it through January, the longest month of the year for some reason.
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I know everybody that I talked to was like, this month will not end, but maybe it's because it was just so darn cold.
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I don't know.
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You know, I actually, it was interesting as I...
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I was starting to see things about February, just like, wow, is it still, or excuse me, January.
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Is it still January?
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It's still January?
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It's still January?
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And I was like, I'm kind of like, is it almost February?
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But then historically, if you ask me, hey, when did you have that meeting with April?
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I would be like, like four weeks ago, like February 1st.
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Yeah.
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I mean, January 1st, like it felt like I'm like, how long ago was that?
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It really was like the beginning of January, but it felt like a month ago.
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So I, I feel like I'm kind of in like the twilight zone of the January length, but I like saw a couple of people that were like, Hey everybody, it's January 72nd.
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But it's officially February.
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Yay.
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Oh, thank God.
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Does that mean it's getting warmer?

Winter Challenges with Electric Cars

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It is getting warmer.
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It feels like spring.
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Like we're like in the forties.
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Like it's great.
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It's practically summertime.
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Yeah.
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Not for me, but there's still snow from all that snow we got.
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Oh, we still have snow too.
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It hasn't melted all yet.
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I mean, every day it melts a little bit.
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And then it's funny as you drive through the neighborhood.
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you can see where the sun hits and where it doesn't like taking the kids to the bus stop.
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The one half of the road is like completely clear and the grass is green and you can see it.
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And the other half is still a ton of snow.
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So everybody got it.
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I mean, that's kind of the interesting thing was like, I didn't realize Houston and like,
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like, well, I think it was also somewhere in Florida, um, on the Gulf coast, got some crazy snug people.
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They got like record snow all through the South.
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So we didn't feel like isolated, but I was like, what in the world is happening?
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I know snow everywhere.
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Our, our ice was so thick from all that polar vortex and everything that had moved through that.
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I still like, there's still ice probably about two inches in certain areas on our roads.
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Like that's, yeah, it's, it, it was real.
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I have a, like a picture of it.
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Um,

Generational Views on Fame

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like the, there was actually pretty, but like the icicles formed on like my house, you know, they fall off the gutters or whatever.
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It was like really pretty, but even those bad boys, there's a couple still left.
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Oh, wow.
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It's practically summertime for the Midwest.
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I know.
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Speaking of that, we'll find out this weekend, right?
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Like, Oh yeah.
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That little liar.
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Yeah.
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Um, if, if he predicts spring comes early, we learned last year that he was a liar.
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Cause that didn't happen, but yeah, we'll have to keep an eye on him and update on our next episode, whether or not, what, what's your prediction, April, we getting early spring.
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I don't think so.
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I don't think we are this year.
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Well, you know how, how things go in the Midwest.
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There's winter, spring, winter again, summer, winter.
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fall, winter, summer again.
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Tornado season in the middle of hurricane season, hurricanes in the middle of winter.
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Who knows?
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We get it all.
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Yeah.
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My guts tell me we're not done yet this year.
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I think it's, we're going to get more winter, but we'll see.
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I'll take winter.
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I'll take winter with snow.
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I'm all for that.
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You know how I feel about fall.
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I'll take winter with snow though.
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I like winter with snow.
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I just, I like the snow as long as I don't have to go anywhere.
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Yep.
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And also here's another thing.
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I got an electric car.
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So this is my first winter with an electric car.
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And it's a lot different trying to keep an electric car charged in winter.
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So I'm sure anybody out there with electric cars trying to do the right thing for the environment, you're feeling my pain

Introduction to Black History Month

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because it's almost impossible to keep it charged.
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Well, it charges.
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It just takes forever.
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It's just a lot slower.
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So, and you get like, it's like to protect the battery.
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So it's got to use more energy to keep the battery warm.
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Some like quantum physics I'm not familiar with, but yeah, that's way past.
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Yeah.
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So I just get rental cars now.
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I'll just grab a rental if we've got to go out of town.
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Cause I'm like, I don't trust it.
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Um,
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What have you guys been up to?
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What's going on in your world?
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You know, we're just chugging along winter sports, basketball and indoor soccer.
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And we're just hanging out.
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But I have a funny story to tell you from our last episode.
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So.
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A winter factor fiction episode.
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Yes.
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So we record, you know, we recorded and then I was listening to it for editing purposes and things.
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And I was going to go pick up Kirsten at the bus stop and I was listening to it when I went to go get her.
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And she had asked me, are you going to be on a call?
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And I said, no.
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So she gets in the car.
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She's like, I thought you were going to be on a call.
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And I'm not.
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I said, I'm not.
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I'm listening to my new episode.
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And my kids have not listened to any episodes.
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They think it's going to be super boring.
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So they're like, we're not going to listen.
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So she starts listening with me.
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And she's like laughing, you know, because it's a funny episode.
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Because I'm hilarious.
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Yeah, right.
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Totally all you of us.
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Well, because I told her, again, Monopoly came up, so I'm sure she was like, yeah, she's very competitive.
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Somebody actually told me, you're really competitive.
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And I was like, yeah.
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And it was like, yeah, it's obvious.
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I'm

Black Pioneers in Medicine Quiz

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like, that bad?
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It is.
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I'll still take you on, too.
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Yeah.
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So she's listening, and she's like laughing and she thinks it's funny.
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So we're standing there in the house, like listening when we got back in.
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And I started talking about the cookie dough on the episode and she like the flower.
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Yeah.
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And so she immediately starts with just like, she walked away like super fast.
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And I said, what are you doing?
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Are you done listening?
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And she said, I can't listen to this because you are not ruining eating raw cookie dough for me.
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I'm not going to ruin this childhood, you know, thrill of mine.
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It didn't ruin ours, April.
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It didn't stop us.
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That's true.
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As I said, cake batter for the win.
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Although, you know, if one of us, if we'd gotten sick, it probably would ruin it.
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But she doesn't even want to think about what could potentially happen.
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Yeah, that's true.
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I guess we wouldn't have known where it came from.
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We probably would have just assumed it was some bug.
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Yeah, a whole 21 years on this planet, right?
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And I love that we're 21 years old, but our whole 21 years on this planet, we've eaten cake batter and cookie dough for at least two-thirds of it.
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And we're here.
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And maybe it actually has really primed our immune system.
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Despite our discussion.
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Yeah, we've clearly built up the immune right now.
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Yeah.
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Who the heck knows?
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Well, like, that's funny.
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And I actually love that your kids, I just, I love that they celebrate you.
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And, um, you know, as we mentioned in the past, um, your youngest that was like, oh, my mom's like a VP.
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I think that's so sweet that they celebrate you.
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Um, if, if I don't have social media presence and followers or make a for you page, my kids don't really care.
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um about what i'm doing i could say like oh i've got a you know a top 10 podcast which false news folks like i'm not saying we do i'm just saying like we could be like the most um popular podcast and my kids would be like that's great but if i show up on a for you page or they see some presence on social media that's when i've arrived i hit celebrity status that way so that's the threshold huh oh well you know it's like yes that's it sorry sadly
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They're like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Like, you're boring.
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So, I don't even think my kids could tell you what I do for a living.
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I mean, they know, obviously.
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Like, as a clinician, what I do.
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But in my work, they're like, she does something where she talks on, like, the phone all day.
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And she's always in meetings.
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She talks on the phone when I'm in the car.
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That's all I know.
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And it's annoying.
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And she's constantly telling me to be quiet.
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Because she's in a meeting.
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Well, I know...
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We're in February.
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We talked about Punxsutawney.
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And again, we're going to do a poll on this one, Apes.
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Is he going to be right or not?
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You say no.
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I'm just going to say yes just to be Alicia.
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We'll take another poll on that one.
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Because, by the way, I won last week.
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You did.
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I did, yeah.
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And everybody actually voted I would.
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So our audience knows us well.
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But in all seriousness, it is Black History Month.
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Or you paid them.
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vote.
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And in all seriousness, no, just kidding.
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It's possible.
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Floated them a couple gift cards, maybe at the most.
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But it is, it's Black History Month, and I thought it would be kind of a good idea for us to maybe do an episode here, lighthearted, but I had one question, and I don't know if you've ever had this question.
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Since we were in school, we've always acknowledged Black History Month, and
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and acknowledged what founders and really pioneers in the African-American community did just for our country and other things.
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But the one question I always had, and I don't know if you ever had that, I'm like, how did it start?
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Because maybe I looked at it as, and being biracial, trying to understand why do we separate it?
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Um, why was there like just one month here?
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And then like, what happens with the rest of the months?
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Like, there was just kind of some confusion.
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I don't know if you've ever questioned, like, have you ever questioned why it happens in February?
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Yeah.
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I mean, I guess probably over the years I have, um, you know, why specifically February?
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Well, I just wondered, not just February, but then also, like, why was there just this one month?
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So I did a little deep dive and learned that Black History Month, like in its essence, has its roots in the works of a historian.
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His name was Dr. Carter G. Woodson.
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And in 1926, he established Negro History Week.
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And that was really like a dedicated time to focus on achievements of African-Americans whose contributions had largely been overlooked or minimized in like mainstream narratives in the U.S. So he chose the week, Dr. Woodson, of February to align with the birthdays of Frederick Douglass and Abraham Lincoln.
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which if we think they're both significant figures in the history of African Americans and also their fights for freedom and their civil rights.
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Over time, there was initially like a week-long observance that was gained in schools and communities, and then during the Civil Rights Movement and beyond that, there was a growing support for expanding the celebration.
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And then by 1976, what was used to be called Negro History Week was
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officially evolved into Black History Month.
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President Gerald Ford also used the nation's bicentennial celebration that year to urge Americans to seize the opportunity to honor the too often neglected accomplishments that Black Americans had in everyday endeavors throughout our history.
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So with that said, I thought if we're talking about like
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serving as this reminder of resilience and innovation and culture and impact of African-Americans in American culture, I thought we could do a knowledge check, you know, black history, knowledge check.
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And of course, in competitive style, but also like with black pioneers in medicine.
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What are your thoughts?
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Sounds good.
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I'm in.
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You're all so quick to just say sounds good.
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Any chance to get beat by you, Alicia.
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It's 2025, baby girl.
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My word used to be gratitude, but it's now winning.
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Hashtag winning.
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Or is it beating April?
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Did you go for two words?
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Well, I'm just going to go hashtag winning.
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Not Charlie Sheen version, though, but, you know.
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I think it would be cool to do that.
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Um, but in all seriousness, I think it'd be cool for us to talk about, um, and challenge each other on what we do and do, do not know.
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But I also want to maybe challenge our listeners as we listen and it's always lighthearted April and I'd love to have a good time.
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We want to make this easy for everybody to digest, but I do want you guys to think like, while we're talking about this, what can you learn?
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from the courage of some of these trailblazers in medicine and how we can use their example to make a difference in our own sphere of influence.
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So just a little challenge to the listener here on good fun.
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So that being said, April.
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I learn on all of these episodes that we do.
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I do too, actually, a lot.
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And with this deep dive, I learned a lot more than I thought.
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So I'm actually excited about this.
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So with that being said, let the games begin.
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All right.
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Who's starting?
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You're starting us.
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Oh, all right.
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All right.
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I'm going to start with a multiple choice.
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You ready?
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Let's go.
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Which pioneering African-American physician is credited with developing techniques to store blood and create large scale blood banks?
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A. Charles Drew B. Daniel Hale Williams C. James McCune Smith or D. Percy Julian Okay.
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Okay.
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I'm going to give you guys.
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Are you taking score?
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Of course.
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Okay.
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You have your post-it.
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I do.
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It's a new one.
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Go ahead and put a tally mark and Alicia got this right.
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It's Woodson.
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And the only reason I know this.
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Woodson was not an option.
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Wait, wait, wait.
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Sorry.
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Drew.
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Charles Drew.
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I didn't mean Woodson.
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I was thinking of.
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Are you making up your own options?
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No, no, no.
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I was thinking of the pioneer

Reflections on Black History's Influence

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of like Black History Week.
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So he was still on my mind or Black History Month.
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He was still on my mind.
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It is Charles Drew.
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And again, admittedly, I know this and maybe I'll share it on our Instagram page.
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But I actually was doing like highlights of pioneers in medicine like a year or two ago during black history month.
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And I did a whole like Instagram reel about him and his just his service.
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So what an amazing man and what an amazing story.
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But tell me what you got there.
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You are correct.
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So Charles Drew was a surgeon and researcher whose work on blood plasma storage revolutionized medicine.
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He was a native of Washington, D.C., and he developed an interest in blood transfusions and the properties of blood.
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So as a surgeon, he came up with innovative ways to store blood plasma in blood banks, noticing that it could be preserved or banked much longer than whole blood so that he discovered that it could be dried and reconstituted later.
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He was the first director of the first blood bank project in Britain during World War II.
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And then he actually ended up establishing the American Red Cross blood bank and served as its director starting in 1941.
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You know what's interesting about him as well is that he was amazing at attending to Black residents.
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But I believe he passed.
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I can't remember how old he was.
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I didn't know if that came up in your research.
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Yeah.
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He passed away in a car accident driving after having driven, like he would pick up medical residents for their rounds, et cetera, and then take them home.
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And he passed away very young in his 40s.
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Yeah, in 46th.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Um, from a car accident.
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So thank you, Dr. Drew for that contribution.
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Blood banks, man.
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It's interesting.
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It's very interesting, huh?
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It is interesting.
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Okay.
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So, um, I'm winning.
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Let's go.
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Um, I've got one for you.
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I'm just going to do same multiple choice.
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Ready?
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Okay.
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Who is known as the mother of modern medicine due to her immortal cells?
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Henrietta Lacks, B, Jane Wright, C, Mary Eliza Mahoney, or D, Rebecca Lee Crumpler?
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It is A, Henrietta Lacks.
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You knew this?
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Yes.
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Oh, gosh.
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Cheater, cheater, pumpkin eater.
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Okay, you're absolutely right.
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Henrietta Lacks, she was born 1922.
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died in 1951, very short life again.
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It's kind of sad.
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But Henrietta Lacks was really actually a poor tobacco farmer whose cells were taken without her consent, sadly, during cancer treatment in 1951.
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These cells, though, were known as HeLa cells, became the first immortal human cell line that had been used for thousands of medical breakthroughs.
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So fun fact,
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Her family only learned about her contribution decades later.
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They had no idea how she had contributed to medicine, which actually sparked some debates for medical ethics and informed consent.
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So she did pass away tragically from cervical cancer at the age of 31.
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Very short life, but what a contribution.
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How did you know you had that question?
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No, well, I had a similar question about her.
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But also, I just knew because I'm smart.
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That's true.
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That's true.
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You're so smart.
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Don't discredit me, girl.
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I would never.
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I will only discredit you when I win.
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Oh, okay.
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Fair enough.
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You're up.
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Which according to you is all the time.
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Okay, so.
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All I do is win.
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That makes me think of that song.
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I know.
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That I put up on the Instagram.
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I'm glad you listened to it because that's all I do.
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DJ Khaled, let's go.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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Anyways.
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Okay.
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Ready for a true or false.
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Got it.
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All right.
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Let's go.
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True or false?
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Solomon Carter Fuller was the first African-American psychiatrist and a pioneer in Alzheimer's disease research.
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What was his name?
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Solomon Carter Fuller.
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I'm just going to say true.
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Okay.
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You're correct.
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Okay.
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Good job.
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Thank you.
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I think if this is a breakeven episode, it'll be worth it.
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Yeah, it will.
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We'll learn.
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Everybody else will learn, too.
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Yes, because this is actually very interesting.
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Not everything else isn't, but I like this.
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Let's go.
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All right.
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So Solomon Carter Fullers, he was a...
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sorry, Fuller, not Fuller's.
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He was a neurologist and psychiatrist.
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So he studied under Alois Alzheimer, which was actually in Germany.
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And they started early research on Alzheimer's disease.
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And so Fuller was actually the one that would translate much of that Alzheimer's work into English because it was done in Germany.
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So it was in German.
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Yeah.
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And so they were also studying traits of, you know, started studying the traits of dementia and
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which led to the Alzheimer's research.
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So huge contributor there.
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He also had work in schizophrenia, depression, and other mental illnesses.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
00:19:34
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Well, thank you for that contribution as well.
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Right.
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Right.
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It's interesting.
00:19:41
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Maybe we don't think about, we did one episode like this in the summertime and it was what it was a medical wonders and blunders.
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Yeah.
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And you just kind of think, you know, the way we approach patients today, do we ever think like who invented the IV?
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who invented, you know, like who invented this and, or who invented the cat's game or, you know, all these things that we take for granted and are just like everyday staples in our treatments.
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Um, it's just interesting.
00:20:07
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It is interesting to approach it like this and beyond, you know, um, African-Americans contribution, obviously there's, there's tons of ethnic contributions outside of just American, you know, um, it's just interesting.
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Okay.
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Keep it moving.
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I'm going to do
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Two truths and a lie.
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I want you to tell me what the lie is.
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Okay.
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Are you ready, Spaghetti?
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I'm ready.
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Let's go.
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Two truths and a lie.
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Which statement about Jane Wright is false?
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A, she was a pioneer in chemotherapy treatments for cancer.
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B, she became the first black woman to lead a major cancer research foundation.
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Or C, she declined all leadership roles to focus exclusively on her private practice and treatment of cancer.
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Hmm.
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I'm going to say C is the lie.
00:21:04
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You are really good.
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Am I right?
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You're absolutely right.
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Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
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Yes, C is the lie.
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So Jane Wright, again, 1919 to 2013, very beautifully long life.
00:21:16
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Now we've got something that's not as tragic.
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She was actually a pioneering oncologist who developed innovating chemotherapy protocols.
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She became the highest ranking African-American woman in the U.S. medical academia, which I think is pretty amazing.
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Fun fact, her father, Louis Wright, was also a groundbreaking physician, and he was the first African-American doctor to ever work in a public hospital in New York.
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Awesome.
00:21:42
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That's wild, huh?
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Yeah.
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Think about this.
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1919.
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Her father...
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in the 1920s and 30s, was the first black man in New York to work in a public hospital.
00:21:53
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I think that's crazy.
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It's not that far away, but it's just, it's crazy to think about that because that's not how we think today, you know?
00:21:59
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I know.
00:22:00
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Well, so much has changed in such a short time, right?
00:22:03
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Absolutely.
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Absolutely.
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And I'm glad it has.
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All right.
00:22:07
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What do you got?
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All right.
00:22:09
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I have another multiple choice.
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All right.
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Who was the first African-American woman to earn a medical degree in the United States?
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Ooh.
00:22:18
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Am I supposed to?
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Oh, I was like, this is a fill in the blank.
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I said multiple choice.
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We could do fill in the blank.
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Let's see how you do it.
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I got excited and I was like, is it a fill in the blank?
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Because I'm going to say defer to April.
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Nice.
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All right.
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So here's your choices.
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A, Mary Eliza Mahoney.
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B, Rebecca Lee Crumbler.
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C, Jane Wright.
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Or D, Henrietta Lacks.
00:22:42
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Well, I know it's not Jane.
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We just talked about her.
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Right.
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I'm going to say...
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Crumpler, maybe?
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Ah, you're right.
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Am I really?
00:22:52
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Yeah.
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I should be more excited for you when you're right, but I'm not.
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You should be.
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But the only reason was because I couldn't remember the names you said, and that was the last word that stuck in my head.
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Well, we also just talked about Henrietta Lacks, so you knew that wasn't her either.
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Maybe that's where it was.
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Okay, all right.
00:23:08
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Tell me about it.
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All right.
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So Rebecca Lee Crumpler, she earned her degree in 1864 from the New England.
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1864?
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Yes.
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A year before emancipation.
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Yeah.
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So she earned it from the New England Female Medical College.
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And she was a trailblazer for African-American women in medicine.
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So she moved to the South after the Civil War and provided care to freed slaves who had limited access to health care.
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1864.
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She was born in 1831.
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Go ahead.
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Oh, she was born in 1831.
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Yeah.
00:23:45
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It sounds so far away, but for historical context, I was having a conversation with a coworker last night.
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It was just asking some questions, largely around race and like a safe space that they felt that they could ask me these things where they didn't feel like they were going to be judged.
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And we got into this conversation and I was explaining to this person for like, just for context, my father is...
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like 10 or 11 years older than my mom.
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My father's black.
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My mom's white.
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Um, my father's father had him when he was in his late fifties.
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So I think there were like 13 kids.
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Um, my father's father was born in 1895.
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So my grandfather, who I never met, but was born in 1895.
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He was,
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was a child of slaves.
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That's how, like, we're two generations from slavery.
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Like, it's the craziest thing to think, I don't know, for me, it always, like, blows my mind.
00:24:49
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It feels so far away, but in, at least in my lineage, it's so close still.
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Yeah, that's true.
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And I know it's like, that's not a typical, it's not a typical story for everybody, but
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just to think about that, like, had I ever known it was, he was Everett Roberts in, um, like I would have been able to talk to him about his parents.
00:25:12
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Um, but there's no, we, obviously we've, we've got very limited information, um, predating 1865, but, uh, I do know like,
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they were in the Carolinas and came through and came over to Ohio, but it's like, it's just crazy.
00:25:26
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I think my great, great grandparents were slaves.
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And then to your point, this woman like did this in 1864 before, you know, we weren't really even afforded freedom.
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So yeah, that's amazing.
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Truly amazing.
00:25:41
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Wow.
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I I'm grateful for that.
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Okay.
00:25:45
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I'm going to do, let's see, April, what are you in the mood for?
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Let's do another multiple choice.
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I like this.
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All right.
00:25:55
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Are you ready?
00:25:55
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I'm ready.
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All right.
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Who founded Provident Hospital in Chicago?
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Now, for context, Provident Hospital is the first black-owned and operated hospital in the United States of America.
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Was that Daniel Hayley Williams?
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B, Charles Drew?
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C, James McCune Smith?
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D, Rebecca Lee Crumpler?
00:26:18
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We're getting some repeat names here.
00:26:20
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We are getting repeat names here.
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I'm going to go with C.
00:26:28
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I'm sorry to inform you, April, you're incorrect and currently losing.
00:26:32
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Ah, it's A, isn't it?
00:26:33
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I was going to go with A. It is Daniel Hale Williams.
00:26:37
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It was between those two.
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Those are two we haven't talked about yet.
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But anyways, go ahead.
00:26:42
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Born 1865, passed 1931.
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Williams opened Providence Hospital in 1891.
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The purpose of this hospital was to train African-American nurses and doctors and also to provide care to underserved communities.
00:26:57
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In 1893, he performed one of the first successful open-heart surgeries.
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He saved a man who had been stabbed in his chest.
00:27:04
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So, you know, I like fun facts.
00:27:07
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So fun fact, despite his remarkable achievements, he faced racial barriers throughout his career, worked tirelessly to break them down for others, and actually really kind of broke through a ton of stereotypes.
00:27:19
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um, and, and gained a ton of respect within, I say the white community, but at that time, yes, um, to, to kind of be a platform to be heard and to lead other surgeons at that point in time.
00:27:31
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If you just consider where we were in the early 1900s, that's, that's a heck of a success.
00:27:38
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Yeah, it is.
00:27:39
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Yeah.
00:27:40
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One of the first successful open heart surgeries.
00:27:42
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Yeah.
00:27:43
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So we got blood, we've got surgeries, we've got first hospitals, we've got everything.
00:27:48
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Yeah.
00:27:48
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Yeah.
00:27:49
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All right.
00:27:49
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And I'm winning.
00:27:51
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Okay.
00:27:51
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We'll do one more round.
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One more round.
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If you say I'm hot.
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All right.
00:27:57
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I'm going to do a two truths and a lie.
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Okay.
00:28:00
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Ready?
00:28:00
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Yep.
00:28:01
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Which statement about Percy Julian is false?
00:28:07
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A, he synthesized cortisone to treat arthritis.
00:28:10
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B, he developed a low cost treatment for glaucoma.
00:28:13
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Or C, he invented it.
00:28:14
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What is it?
00:28:14
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A low cost treatment for what?
00:28:16
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Glaucoma.
00:28:17
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Okay.
00:28:17
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Okay.
00:28:18
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Or C, he invented antibiotics to treat tuberculosis.
00:28:22
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Oh, jeez.
00:28:23
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I'm about to sing the Jeopardy song for you.
00:28:28
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I know.
00:28:29
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Go ahead and put it on the show.
00:28:30
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Are you looking it up?
00:28:31
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No, I'm thinking.
00:28:32
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Because I want to win.
00:28:34
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Okay.
00:28:36
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I'm just going to say C. Ah.
00:28:39
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Was I right?
00:28:40
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You were.
00:28:41
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Yes.
00:28:42
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Yes.
00:28:42
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You can give me 0.5 because I didn't really have a rationale.
00:28:48
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I was just really trying to think.
00:28:50
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You're just taking a shot in the dark, huh?
00:28:51
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Yeah.
00:28:52
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This is like when in doubt, to see.
00:28:54
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Did you ever hear that in high school?
00:28:56
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Yeah.
00:28:56
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Yeah.
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Just juicy.
00:28:58
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She's always the right answer.
00:28:59
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Um, all right.
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Tell me about it though.
00:29:01
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You can give me a 0.5 cause I'm still winning.
00:29:04
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Okay.
00:29:04
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Okay.
00:29:05
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All right.
00:29:05
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So Percy Julian was a self-taught chemist, uh, who synthesized cortisone and pheostigmine, which are, so he made treatments for arthritis and glaucoma more affordable.
00:29:15
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Um, so he did a lot of research, you know, he was a chemist and a pioneer in chemical synthesis of medicinal drugs from plants.
00:29:22
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So, um,
00:29:24
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He actually started his own company eventually to synthesize steroid intermediates from wild Mexican yams.
00:29:32
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And so he was able to greatly reduce the cost of steroid intermediates to the large multinational pharmaceutical companies, which really helped to expand the use of several important drugs, including synthetic cortisone.
00:29:44
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So all those steroids that we prescribe these days, you know, we have him to thank.
00:29:51
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Wow.
00:29:52
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Well, thank God for steroids.
00:29:54
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I know.
00:29:55
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What would we do without those COPDers?
00:29:57
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I know.
00:29:58
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See?
00:29:59
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Once upon a time.
00:29:59
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Largic reactions, you know, all the things.
00:30:01
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All of it.
00:30:02
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Or I'm just thinking, like, how would we ever treat exacerbations?
00:30:05
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Maybe you just didn't live, you know?
00:30:06
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Yeah.
00:30:08
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And that's morbid, but, I mean, that's the truth.
00:30:10
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I think we talked about that again in Wonders and Blunders is...
00:30:13
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insulin when we were talking about like how we develop that so um very grateful for those all right last one i'm winning so the only way we can tie is for you to no we can't i'm gonna win anyway it doesn't matter i want to do one so that's all right i don't know i need an extra point right here and no don't i need the extra point please circle it
00:30:34
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Um, in a bright green marker.
00:30:38
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Okay.
00:30:39
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Um, I'm going to do, let's say I'm going to do a multiple choice.
00:30:46
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I like this.
00:30:47
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Okay.
00:30:47
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Okay.
00:30:49
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Which African-American nurse, shout out to our nurses, which African-American nurse became the first professionally trained black nurse in the United States?
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A, Mary Eliza Mahoney.
00:31:02
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Have you noticed that they'd like to give us the full name?
00:31:05
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Yes.
00:31:06
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I would prefer to be referred to as Alicia Michelle Sheffer from now on, okay?
00:31:12
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Okay.
00:31:13
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Okay.
00:31:13
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Thank you, April.
00:31:14
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April.
00:31:15
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Although in my world, that's like when you're in trouble is when they use the middle name.
00:31:18
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I feel like I'm like all of these answers I'm noticing they use their full government name.
00:31:24
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So, yeah.
00:31:24
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Okay.
00:31:25
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Mary Eliza Mahoney.
00:31:27
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B. Susan King Taylor.
00:31:30
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C. Jesse Sleets Scales.
00:31:33
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That's a lot of S's.
00:31:34
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D. Lillian Holland Harvey.
00:31:36
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I'm going to go with A. You win.
00:31:43
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you don't win but you got it right and i'm oh there we go okay absolutely i'm proud of you so yes mary eliza mahoney she was born 1845 past 1926 became the first african-american professionally trained nurse in 1879 she co-founded the national association of colored graduate nurses in 1908 which worked to support african-american nurses so fun fact
00:32:08
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She was an early advocate for women's rights and one of the first women in Boston to register to vote after the 19th Amendment passed.
00:32:15
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Big amendment for us women.
00:32:17
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Also, she was inducted to both the Nursing Hall of Fame and the National Women's Hall of Fame.
00:32:23
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Neither of these, April Burke, I knew existed.
00:32:27
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How do I get into the National Hall of Fame?
00:32:32
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And the Nursing Hall of Fame and the National Women's Hall of Fame.
00:32:35
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Oh, I don't know.
00:32:36
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I can't go to the nursing one, but I could beat you out for the national women's.
00:32:39
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Well, how do we get there first?
00:32:41
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We need nominations.
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We'll have to like research that.
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We're going to have to do some crazy pioneering things like these, these trailblazers did before us.
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Oh, we'll leave it to them.
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But I just thought that was actually like really incredible.
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So, um, this was fun and, and it's lighthearted everyone.
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And I do want,
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I do want to say that we do take this very seriously, like what we're doing and what these contributions are.
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And a reminder that, you know, our black history is not black history only.
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It really is like a very intricate woven tapestry of American history.
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So all of these things are not just to celebrate African-Americans in their contributions, but it is really,
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what, what they've done collectively for medicine and for all of us.
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So I just, I really want to keep that in mind.
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And as we close, I just want to challenge again with that same reflection is how these stories that we've shared today are the facts that we've shared today can inspire you to action in your own life.
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How can you help build on a future that uplifts innovation?
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How can we uplift diversity and opportunity for everybody?
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And as I mentioned, like black history is American history and its lessons really begin, they belong to all of us.
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So I just want to take those lessons to heart, honoring the past, really inspiring the present and building on a better tomorrow.
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So with that being said, April, I'm thinking.
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And April...
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Until next time, you guys stay well and we'll stay on call.
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Happy Black History Month, everybody.