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Speaker: Dear mommy, I just wanted to say I love you so much.
Speaker: I don't know what I would do without you.
Speaker: You're my bestest friend in the whole wide world that I ever did see with my own two eyes.
Speaker: You're the most six, seven Sigma Alpha I ever did see.
Speaker: This is on call.
Speaker: This would be really cool to just wear scrubs all the time and you don't have to think about what you're going to wear to work.
Speaker: That is awesome.
Speaker: We're here to answer your questions.
Speaker: We can sit down and discuss them.
Speaker: Wait, I got to go.
Speaker: I'm on call.
Speaker: Wait, you're on call?
Speaker: I thought I was on call.
Speaker: Welcome back to another episode of On Call with April and Alicia.
Speaker: I'm April.
Speaker: I'm Alicia.
Speaker: And it's Thanksgiving week.
Speaker: Woohoo!
Speaker: They're getting us back to back two weeks in a row.
Speaker: I know.
Speaker: They're so lucky.
Speaker: I know, aren't they?
Speaker: We sound so down.
Speaker: Maybe it's the weather, like the cold, dreary, like, ugh.
Speaker: I woke up and I was like, I'm ready to go back to bed.
Speaker: I woke up like, and I snooze, snooze, snooze, snooze.
Speaker: My whole house did that today.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: I know that.
Speaker: I know you're not supposed to do that.
Speaker: Somebody says somewhere you're, it's actually like worse for your brain or something I was reading, but.
Speaker: It's just so nice though to hit that snooze.
Speaker: Oh, there's just, I like the kind of dark morning too.
Speaker: And you just are like.
Speaker: I could just lay in my bed.
Speaker: It's perfect.
Speaker: And then you realize like, I got to get kids to school and I got to do other things and I can't be in bed this morning.
Speaker: But the other morning, the back door usually is like up when I get up.
Speaker: Like when I get up, he's like, oh, it's time to go.
Speaker: And the other morning he was just like laying in his bed and he was like, I'm not moving.
Speaker: It took me like five minutes to get him up.
Speaker: I was like, dude, we're going to go downstairs.
Speaker: He's like, no, like the look he gave me was just like, no, I'm not doing it.
Speaker: He needs a sweater.
Speaker: You know that.
Speaker: He's cold now.
Speaker: He's not cold.
Speaker: He's fine.
Speaker: He needs doggy clothing.
Speaker: Everybody, April loves doggy clothing.
Speaker: So send April some great dog ideas.
Speaker: I'm actually not really opposed to it, but... She won't put Baxter in a sweater.
Speaker: But I won't do it.
Speaker: But every year I, like, look at the Halloween costumes and I'm like, oh, they're so cute.
Speaker: But I don't do it.
Speaker: Will he just bite it off?
Speaker: Yeah, he will.
Speaker: It'll drive him crazy.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: He has a tail wound right now.
Speaker: He bit his tail and...
Speaker: I put tape around that thing, like a dressing, and I'm like laying there in bed the other night, and I hear this like rip, and he's ripping the tape off of his tail.
Speaker: We had to get Hunter's tail cut off because she, like she's a Dane, but she wagged it so much, and she would smack it up against like...
Speaker: like the side of the door, like the wood, the frames or whatever.
Speaker: And like she wagged it so hard that like it would be these wounds that wouldn't heal.
Speaker: And eventually they had to amputate her tail.
Speaker: Yeah, he had like a skin tag and he bit it off.
Speaker: It was disgusting.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: I like how a shower one night he's like chewing it.
Speaker: And I was like, oh, my God.
Speaker: It's like adults or kids.
Speaker: So that was I mean, he was in the cone for like two or three weeks.
Speaker: And so then, you know, bumping into things everywhere.
Speaker: And he follows me around.
Speaker: So he's bumping into my knees all day long.
Speaker: So I finally have taken the cone off and I'm just watching him.
Speaker: But he was looking at it like before he ended today.
Speaker: You got to put the phone back on his head before you make all that Thanksgiving food.
Speaker: Or, oh, wait, you're going.
Speaker: You've got plans this Thanksgiving, right?
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: We don't.
Speaker: I don't cook.
Speaker: But I got to tell you something.
Speaker: I love how you said I don't cook.
Speaker: Moving on to the next subject.
Speaker: I cook on a daily basis, but not on Thanksgiving.
Speaker: I hear you.
Speaker: But I have to tell you something.
Speaker: I've been waiting to tell you this for like a few weeks because when it happened, I immediately was like, I have to tell Alicia about this.
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: I wonder if this is when we saw each other at medical director summit and you're like, I was like, I have the podcast and I was like, write it down April.
Speaker: Cause you'll forget.
Speaker: And you're like, I will not forget.
Speaker: I will not forget this.
Speaker: So we were at a, like a sports tournament recently.
Speaker: i went to go to the bathroom like and it was at a high school so like it was like a bathroom with running water and i am not really like a picky person about bathrooms because i grew up going in outhouses in the woods you know so um anyways i walk in it was like probably the dirtiest public bathroom i've ever been in like and there's all these girls in there from other teams and the girls and i like look in one stall that's open it is just disgusting and then the girls are like this one doesn't lock and this one's really dirty so there's like three stalls so
Speaker: another girl is in the third stall.
Speaker: So I'm like, I'll just stand here and wait and like to use the one stall that's decent.
Speaker: Um, and I was like sitting there waiting and the door for the stall opens and this girl walks out with a sandwich in her mouth.
Speaker: Oh my gosh.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: And I was like, Oh my God.
Speaker: Like I have to tell Alicia about this.
Speaker: Are you serious?
Speaker: Yes.
Speaker: A sandwich.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Oh my God.
Speaker: Like here I'm in this bathroom and I'm like, oh my God, this is gross.
Speaker: But I like immediately thought of you and like how we always talk about how like dirty bathrooms are and like our phones are dirty.
Speaker: Like we, cause we've talked about this many times and I was like, I have to tell Alicia about this.
Speaker: Oh, my nasty.
Speaker: That is so disgusting.
Speaker: Oh, I don't even know how to come back from that.
Speaker: I know.
Speaker: I was like, oh gosh.
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: All right.
Speaker: I didn't say anything.
Speaker: I just went to the bathroom, went to the bathroom.
Speaker: I just, bathrooms do it to me like majorly, but I also just, do you just wonder just what?
Speaker: Yes.
Speaker: What?
Speaker: It's open.
Speaker: It was open.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Uh-huh.
Speaker: I think I don't think I could have gotten away with just minding my own business at that point.
Speaker: I just feel like you totally would have said something, but I was like, you know, I don't think I would have said it to her, but I don't think I would have not been able to just be like, gross.
Speaker: It's like, I had known, I probably would have said something to like, you know, but anyways, I like instantly thought of you.
Speaker: I was like, I have to tell you about this.
Speaker: Like the person I think at the airport that put their stuff down on the baby changing stage.
Speaker: And I was like, no, not here.
Speaker: Like nobody's wiping this thing down.
Speaker: Disgusting.
Speaker: You might as well just put it on the toilet seat.
Speaker: Make the toilet seat.
Speaker: Why just make the toilet seat your plate?
Speaker: That's so disgusting.
Speaker: Well, I don't have a smell.
Speaker: I don't even know my stomach's upset now.
Speaker: I had something I wanted to share with you, but I can't.
Speaker: And we're going to talk about Thanksgiving on top of this.
Speaker: This is going to be rough.
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: All right.
Speaker: Well, I do have just one funny thing.
Speaker: Speaking of Thanksgiving and I need to get my mind out of the bathroom.
Speaker: Um, Juliana went to a, this like church camp this weekend and they had to write their letters of gratitude.
Speaker: Um, and so for context, I don't know, are your girls hitting you with some really funny, um, just like slang that you're like, I know everybody's like, I don't know what you're saying.
Speaker: Um,
Speaker: And Molly was like, I'm using middle.
Speaker: But then, you know, my husband's a high school teacher.
Speaker: So like they all Dave knows.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Dave knows.
Speaker: So they all like, well, have these, like there's conversations that happen in my house.
Speaker: And I'm like, I have no idea what anyone just said.
Speaker: I don't know.
Speaker: I was at this, like my nephew's pre, I guess, semi like playoff, some off one off football game that he was in.
Speaker: He's like first grade.
Speaker: And he's these little first grade tier leaders are like, yeah,
Speaker: Coach Carol, six, seven.
Speaker: And I was like, what?
Speaker: Six, seven.
Speaker: And I know the six, seven thing kind of, but I'm like, these are like tiny little kids.
Speaker: Like, Coach Carol, six, seven.
Speaker: And I was like, okay, whatever.
Speaker: And my kids will be like, skivity, something, something.
Speaker: And I'm like, what'd you have to say, skivity?
Speaker: So this is the letter, my Thanksgiving gratitude letter I get from my daughter when she comes back from this camp.
Speaker: She's so excited.
Speaker: Dear mommy, we revert to like a little kid sometimes too.
Speaker: I just wanted to say I love you so much.
Speaker: I don't know what I would do without you.
Speaker: You're my bestest friend in the whole wide world that I ever did see with my own two eyes.
Speaker: You're the most six, seven Sigma Alpha I ever did see.
Speaker: You're a literal, I don't even know.
Speaker: You're a literal girl boss.
Speaker: I love all of our talks.
Speaker: And more importantly, you love your favorite daughter in parentheses.
Speaker: Don't forget.
Speaker: I said favorite Juliana.
Speaker: I'm like the most six, seven Sigma alpha.
Speaker: What the heck?
Speaker: I don't fly planes.
Speaker: I don't know what that means.
Speaker: i know i don't like we were just i like and i asked the girls i'm like i don't even understand like what is this six seven me and they're like we don't know i'm like oh okay yeah six seven six seven ah like you have this arm thing they do and i gotta show you it's like six seven oh i've seen it i've seen it but it's like i'm like i don't understand why we do this and then yesterday i was talking to here's about something and she said um
Speaker: She used some term and I was like, what?
Speaker: What does that even mean?
Speaker: And she's like, it's hard to explain.
Speaker: And they really do have these like deep meanings.
Speaker: There's one from SpongeBob.
Speaker: I have to think about it that I was like, I don't even know.
Speaker: It's like one random line that was used in some form.
Speaker: spinoff spongebob something that they like i was like i don't even for context i have zero idea what you're saying and i do feel like i'm a little hip but i was like i don't i don't even know what this means no not at all or like i'll be like okay i can't i'm right at that progressive commercial phase where i do feel like i can see where i'm turning into my appearance but um you just did like max come in and he'll be like oh school's a w today
Speaker: okay, school's a W, W is a win.
Speaker: I'm like, dub, win, win.
Speaker: So that was a good thing.
Speaker: So you had a good time at school?
Speaker: Yeah, I said it was a W. All right.
Speaker: It's like I have to go backwards and think like, dub, W, all right.
Speaker: And who says school's a W?
Speaker: No one.
Speaker: Well, that's what my kids do.
Speaker: Anyway, yes.
Speaker: It got me off of the bathroom thought.
Speaker: So thank you for distracting me for just a second and getting me back in the spirit.
Speaker: But I do see all these like...
Speaker: Facebook reels and stuff about, you know, songs we used to listen to when we were their age and things we used to say.
Speaker: So we had our stuff.
Speaker: Like if you, I mean, like I saw one the other day about, um, Yolo, we can't say anything.
Speaker: We used to run around yelling Yolo.
Speaker: I mean, like all of it, if you just think of anything that started, we were right in that generation that began social media and selfie.
Speaker: I mean, that was birthed from our generation.
Speaker: So it just is very interesting to me.
Speaker: how fast we lose track of like what's what's mainstream because I I swear I was like everything made sense until this year and I'm like what the heck are you even saying the last couple years for me for the girls because they both been in once I think once they both hit middle school I was like I don't
Speaker: I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker: At least you got you do have like a dictionary that lives with you that couldn't break it down for you.
Speaker: I do.
Speaker: I'm like, can you translate for me?
Speaker: Well, you know what?
Speaker: There's a guy on one of the platforms.
Speaker: I can't remember.
Speaker: I don't have Facebook, so it must be Instagram.
Speaker: But he he does like a real teacher update of the week.
Speaker: He's like, OK, parents, so this week.
Speaker: the words I'm hearing.
Speaker: And he breaks every single one of them down, but it's actually kind of funny.
Speaker: I'll send it to you.
Speaker: It's where I first, it was the first week of school this year that I learned six, seven.
Speaker: Cause he goes, all of you are hearing this and no one knows what it means.
Speaker: And I'm still not sure, but six, seven,
Speaker: Well, if you can ask the kids, they don't really understand.
Speaker: Like, they don't know the meaning of it.
Speaker: They just do it, which is funny.
Speaker: Or what context?
Speaker: It's used in any context.
Speaker: I'm like, you want to say it when we're bored?
Speaker: All right, cool.
Speaker: Six, seven.
Speaker: I'm going to say it all.
Speaker: What if I just start saying it on our work calls today?
Speaker: Six, seven.
Speaker: There you go.
Speaker: I don't know.
Speaker: What does it mean?
Speaker: We don't know.
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: All right.
Speaker: Let's get into the content.
Speaker: It's Thanksgiving weekend.
Speaker: Hey guys, as you can tell, we're like, we're laying back.
Speaker: We're having fun this week.
Speaker: This is, this is a holiday week.
Speaker: And in our typical fashion, holiday, holiday weeks mean competition for us and families and mostly competitions for April and I. So we are going to do, what would we do?
Speaker: True or false?
Speaker: Fake for real?
Speaker: yeah thanksgiving's done we did it last year let's do it again and this one is this is for for the win because this might be one of the last times we do this april i know i lost try where we are pretty sure i'm winning pretty sure you're not pretty sure i've won all of them it's pretty sure you lost last time i already did actually i lost majorly last time
Speaker: All right.
Speaker: Let's do it.
Speaker: But anyway, it's time to get serious.
Speaker: We're in the home stretch.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: So, okay, well, let's do it.
Speaker: You guys know how this game rolls.
Speaker: April and I are just going to ask each other questions.
Speaker: We're going to decide, is what we've asked true or false, or is it fake or for real?
Speaker: But there is some knowledge to be had in some of this.
Speaker: So, April, why don't you start us off?
Speaker: All right.
Speaker: First one, true or false.
Speaker: Eating turkey on Thanksgiving makes you sleep due to the tryptophan in it.
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: I'm going to say it's true, but you're going to say there's other food that has tryptophan in it.
Speaker: That's right.
Speaker: I'm going to say it's actually false.
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: That's what I'm going to say.
Speaker: It's true, but it is true.
Speaker: But I think we had the same question.
Speaker: Oh, all right.
Speaker: But there are other foods, so hit me with it.
Speaker: So yes, turkey does contain tryptophan, which does promote good sleep, good mood.
Speaker: That's what we hear about, right?
Speaker: I'm in a turkey coma.
Speaker: Exactly.
Speaker: Like, oh my God, I ate so much turkey.
Speaker: I'm so sleepy.
Speaker: You know, all the things.
Speaker: So tryptophan, it's an essential amino acid.
Speaker: But, you know, again, it is involved in the production of serotonin and melatonin.
Speaker: It's like a precursor, right?
Speaker: Which just kind of makes you sleepy.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: So people will actually take supplements of tryptophan to try to sleep, but there are other sources of tryptophan, like you mentioned.
Speaker: So milk, cheese, beef, chicken, nuts, soybean, I'll have them.
Speaker: But the other thing too, is that outside of, um,
Speaker: what you're eating, it's also kind of how much you're eating that also makes you sleepy, right?
Speaker: And it's also the fact that we're eating high carb foods.
Speaker: So all of those, you know, we talk with, you know, about the turkey, but then there's also all these sides.
Speaker: that are often very high in carbs right and so um consuming all of that so much like so quick it can raise your blood sugar and then you can get a crash which makes you feel tired um also it's just uh sort of i mean the time of the year too right like it's kind of late fall early winter it's cold outside so you're like i might as well take a nap um and so all these things morning exactly
Speaker: Um, and then also I found this very interesting, a big, big meal of any kind can also change like circulation that affects your energy and focus as well.
Speaker: So it's, it's also, so it's not only just the fact that we're eating Turkey, but we're eating all these carbs.
Speaker: We're also eating huge amounts of it at once.
Speaker: Um, and so advice to try to keep a little bit more alert after your Thanksgiving meal, eat a little more slowly, eat smaller portions, um,
Speaker: Stop eating when you're full, take a walk after dinner to get yourself moving and get those carbohydrates moving.
Speaker: So all those things will help you stay awake if you want to stay awake, but if you want to curl up on the couch and take a nap, go for it.
Speaker: Well, yeah.
Speaker: Or if you just want to never get out of bed and have your children serve you all your Thanksgiving food in your bed, all your sides, because that's all I'm going to eat.
Speaker: Do that, too.
Speaker: Who cares?
Speaker: Yeah, you can do that.
Speaker: That's a terrible medical advice.
Speaker: Scratch that.
Speaker: OK, well, I think I want to piggyback.
Speaker: I was actually scrolling through what you were saying yours, because I'm going to piggyback off the food.
Speaker: Let's keep it in food spirit for just a second.
Speaker: You're talking about what we consume.
Speaker: Baker for real.
Speaker: The average American consumes more than 4000 calories and 150 grams of fat on Thanksgiving Day.
Speaker: Oh, I think that's true.
Speaker: You're right.
Speaker: It is.
Speaker: But I thought that was astronomical.
Speaker: And I actually thought that you would overthink this one because of how specific I was about the grams of fat.
Speaker: But you're absolutely right.
Speaker: They say like calorie analysis for a typical Thanksgiving meal is roughly like 3,500 to 4,500 calories.
Speaker: Sometimes it's really over 5,000.
Speaker: If you include drinks, be it just sodas or whatever and desserts, alcohol, all of that kind of stuff.
Speaker: roughly two days of our recommended intake in one meal.
Speaker: In like a half hour.
Speaker: Right, right.
Speaker: But our pancreas and our gallbladder, if you still have, like April doesn't have hers, but we all have a pancreas.
Speaker: And if you've got your gallbladder, those digestive organs get no holiday, folks.
Speaker: So Thanksgiving is like notorious for gallstones.
Speaker: Did you know this?
Speaker: Gallstones symptom flare-ups.
Speaker: It doesn't surprise me, but I never thought about that.
Speaker: So I was like, wow, this is what all this calorie and fat is hitting us with.
Speaker: It would be basically you'd have to run.
Speaker: This is kind of just a fun fact, though, but you basically have to run an entire marathon, 26.2, to burn off that calorie load.
Speaker: Wow.
Speaker: Wow.
Speaker: Isn't that wild?
Speaker: I know.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: But you know, I do it every year.
Speaker: I'm just like, well, one day.
Speaker: So what happens if I don't eat for three days?
Speaker: And then I wait.
Speaker: That's how I would rationalize.
Speaker: I don't think that that works, but.
Speaker: Well, but you know, on Thanksgiving, you wake up and you're like, I'm just not going to eat all day.
Speaker: Oh, I do eat breakfast, but it's usually like a piece of pumpkin pie for breakfast.
Speaker: Like it's not on Thanksgiving day.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Before.
Speaker: Yes.
Speaker: Oh, I didn't think the pies broke out until at least the middle of the afternoon.
Speaker: But I mean, I just got to test them for everybody.
Speaker: My person.
Speaker: But if you had green bean casserole sitting out in the morning, I'd be eating it.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Probably every pie is the night before.
Speaker: I shouldn't say we.
Speaker: My father and I makes the pies.
Speaker: And I was going to say April.
Speaker: We already know April doesn't cook.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: April doesn't cook on Thanksgiving, guys.
Speaker: I make mashed potatoes.
Speaker: Oh, no, I like those.
Speaker: Okay, okay, let's stay on topic.
Speaker: We're going to make a lot of people hungry today.
Speaker: Okay, ready?
Speaker: True or false?
Speaker: Yes.
Speaker: All right, let's go.
Speaker: The time of day you sit down for Thanksgiving dinner could have an impact on your health.
Speaker: The time of day you sit down, I'm going to say true.
Speaker: That is true.
Speaker: So it's so bizarre.
Speaker: So it's gotta be true.
Speaker: Go ahead.
Speaker: Tell me though.
Speaker: I've never heard this.
Speaker: I had not heard this either, but I thought it was very interesting.
Speaker: So, um, the timing of your meal can make the like all the difference for your digestion.
Speaker: Um, and so.
Speaker: nutritionists say that somewhere between three 30 and five o'clock is the sweet spot.
Speaker: But, um, you know, I mean, we eat at like one or two.
Speaker: So I think a lot of people eat earlier in the day, but, um, that kind of like mid afternoon spot is, is better health wise.
Speaker: Um, because if you eat too early, then you tend to linger around the table for hours, leading to like multiple helpings of each course just to pass the time.
Speaker: So you're sort of eating more because you're just there longer, right?
Speaker: Like, and you're there eating more, uh,
Speaker: And then if you wait too late, then you end up overeating at dinner because you're and then you're eating later.
Speaker: You're so stuffed.
Speaker: And there's all those calories that you just consumed that you're trying to.
Speaker: digest while you're starting, like actually starting to kind of wind down for the day.
Speaker: So, um, you want to eat, um, late enough so that you're not there eating forever, but you also need to eat early enough so that you can move around and digest all that food that you eat.
Speaker: And speaking of that, you're not supposed to avoid breakfast because, uh, if you skip breakfast, then you're going to be like way more hungry at the time of the meal.
Speaker: And you're going to eat more than you would have had you had something for breakfast.
Speaker: Um,
Speaker: Okay, I'm going to, I need to throw down a flag on this play because I don't think you have to eat breakfast like people think you do.
Speaker: Maybe we need to do a podcast on this.
Speaker: If I eat breakfast, I will not eat again until later in the afternoon.
Speaker: I am never hungry when I wake up in the morning.
Speaker: I wake up hungry every day.
Speaker: So maybe it's like, I feel like if I eat breakfast.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: I think if I had Thanksgiving in the morning, like you said, you woke up and ate pie, I would eat less during the day.
Speaker: But if I wait until mid-afternoon, I feel like, well, I'll eat a lot fast.
Speaker: Then I'll stop.
Speaker: But that's not what you're supposed to do.
Speaker: I know, but I'm just saying I'll eat some other portions.
Speaker: But not consistently.
Speaker: Not all day.
Speaker: That's the grazing thing, right?
Speaker: Isn't that what they say?
Speaker: You eat earlier, you're just going to eat all day.
Speaker: I don't know.
Speaker: I just, I, maybe it's just me and I'm an outlier.
Speaker: No, I mean, I know plenty of people who don't eat breakfast, but I just, I always have been one that I eat breakfast every day.
Speaker: Cause I, I wake up hungry.
Speaker: Like I'm hungry in the morning when the kids are getting off to the bus and then I'll, so I'll eat breakfast and then I'm like hungry again at lunchtime.
Speaker: So yeah, I, I, I, I joke, but I like, don't skip a meal.
Speaker: And they can't hear me talk.
Speaker: People probably think I'm overweight.
Speaker: But but no, I mean, I eat all three meals every day.
Speaker: Well, that's because it's a rule somewhere and you know, it's because I get hungry and then I get angry.
Speaker: Like if I don't eat and I'm hungry, like nobody around me is happy.
Speaker: My whole family is like, Mom, can you just eat?
Speaker: Like, can you eat something?
Speaker: And then we'll talk to you.
Speaker: I didn't really believe that hangry was real until I got around hangry people.
Speaker: I get hungry, but I don't get mean.
Speaker: I think I get hungry.
Speaker: I have a period of tiny frustration, but if I get too hungry, I can't eat.
Speaker: Do you ever get to that point where you're past hungry?
Speaker: No, I have to eat.
Speaker: I'm striking out all over the place.
Speaker: Somebody in the universe feels me, right?
Speaker: If I wait too long, I get mad because now I can't eat.
Speaker: I can eat and I have to, otherwise I'm like a bear to be around and I know it.
Speaker: And the thing is, is like, I know I'm doing it and I can't stop myself.
Speaker: Like I can't be like, like sometimes I like, okay guys, I'm really sorry.
Speaker: I'm really hungry.
Speaker: Like, let's just go eat.
Speaker: And they're like, okay.
Speaker: You know, it happens most often in like theme parks where like, you know, we're like go, go, go.
Speaker: And then I'm like, oh my God, I'm starving.
Speaker: Um, but anyways.
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: Sure.
Speaker: So I'm winning.
Speaker: All right.
Speaker: Next question.
Speaker: Nope.
Speaker: Let's talk about the wishbone.
Speaker: Oh, the wishbone.
Speaker: The wishbone.
Speaker: All right.
Speaker: True or false?
Speaker: The turkey wishbone was used as a diagnostic tool in ancient medicine.
Speaker: True or false?
Speaker: False.
Speaker: It's actually true.
Speaker: Oh, I'm surprised I stumped you on this one.
Speaker: But in a ritualistic sense.
Speaker: So there are these historical records that show that Romans use the forcula.
Speaker: which is like, I guess, technically what they call it, interpreting, interpreted omens about their health or fertility or future events.
Speaker: So it's like not technically medicine, but it was.
Speaker: When you say diagnostic, I think medicine.
Speaker: Okay.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: So I'm going to throw a flag on this play because you can go ahead.
Speaker: You'll throw it.
Speaker: But I just thought it was still interesting that they, they used it like in diagnostic guidance and early healing practices.
Speaker: They, um,
Speaker: It is the wishbones form and the fractures, like symbolically guided decisions about illness.
Speaker: So if they were talking to somebody kind of like, I think of it like somebody that reads palms or we used to do like crystal balls or whatever, tarot card reading.
Speaker: So it was a way to help guide.
Speaker: people on what decisions they needed to make about their illness or if they were farmers, their harvest or what societal events they should even be planning to attend.
Speaker: So it's just a little bit more of a fun example, a little bit more superstition.
Speaker: But it does to me, I think like.
Speaker: illustrate how far we've evolved from like ritual base interpretations to like evidence-driven diagnostics, you know, so, but yeah, it was, it was before we had our modern day electronic crystal balls known as MRIs, CAT scans, those types of things, they used a wishbone to guide them.
Speaker: Interesting.
Speaker: We always used to argue about who was going to break, you know, get to pull the wishbone when we were kids.
Speaker: No, and that's terrible.
Speaker: That's terrible.
Speaker: Like, there's just a thought of breaking the bone.
Speaker: I'm sorry.
Speaker: Like, the noise.
Speaker: No, thanks.
Speaker: But you know what?
Speaker: We, like, that's one thing I never...
Speaker: We never fought about, but yes, I remember as a kid, like my mom would be like, here's the wish ball and you finally get it out.
Speaker: And then, um, what is it like two people pull it and whoever ends up with the larger piece or wish comes through luck or something.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: But you know what?
Speaker: It's that, that pulling.
Speaker: So that fracture, that's what I'm talking about when they decided decisions.
Speaker: So they put two people on like the side of like, you're going to do this.
Speaker: this is what we should do for your health or this.
Speaker: And however it broke with that person it broke with would be how they made the decisions.
Speaker: Like that's where that tradition comes from for us, which is weird that we were making life decisions.
Speaker: We did it at one point and now we're just like wishing on a star.
Speaker: But I also like, like biomechanically, it's kind of a nerd moment, but the wishbone itself is what helps direct birds in flight.
Speaker: interesting it's it's like the strongest light like mechanism that the bird has inside their body so a little fun fact there too yeah right never look at wishbones the same huh no i will not i don't it just makes me think indiana jones but it was like indiana jones in the temple of doom is what i thought when i saw that question um
Speaker: And for those of you... Random, but okay.
Speaker: I know, well, no, but I'm thinking old, like, Aztec or Mayan, like, cultural stuff.
Speaker: But, like, all the weird... They have, like, these weird...
Speaker: like temple things they did.
Speaker: Do you remember like when they pulled a guy's heart out with his hand?
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: That's what it makes me think of.
Speaker: You're just pulling stuff out of birds back in those days and making decisions on life and death.
Speaker: That's very Indiana Jones to me.
Speaker: True.
Speaker: True.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: All right.
Speaker: Pick it up.
Speaker: Pick it back up.
Speaker: Let's talk about food.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Well, my last question is not about food, but are we on the last round?
Speaker: Let's go.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Last round.
Speaker: So, but I do think it's actually important to talk about this because I think people don't realize about this.
Speaker: So true or false.
Speaker: The emergency room typically sees a decrease in visits around Thanksgiving.
Speaker: Oh, that's going to be false.
Speaker: I knew you would get this one, but I think it's important to talk about.
Speaker: Because in reality, the emergency room actually sees an increase in visits around Thanksgiving and actually just around the holidays in general.
Speaker: So kind of Thanksgiving is the start of that.
Speaker: But there's several things that happen.
Speaker: So one, you mentioned gallstones, but two, the overeating, alcohol consumption, you mentioned we all have a pancreas, so you can get pancreatitis, right?
Speaker: So that's triggered by overeating, excessive alcohol.
Speaker: So that can happen.
Speaker: There's also people with cardiac disease.
Speaker: So there's things, you know, there's this concept of like the holiday heart, right?
Speaker: So holiday heart syndrome.
Speaker: So it's, it results from overindulgence in it.
Speaker: food and alcohol and just liquids in general for people with heart failure.
Speaker: But you combine that with the stress of the holiday season.
Speaker: And we will see a surge in cardiac events around this time of the year.
Speaker: We also see traffic accidents, you know, people drinking and dinner and then leaving and getting in accidents on the way home, especially if it's an area where it's snowing, things like that.
Speaker: Seasonal illness is at a peak rate.
Speaker: We're coming up on flu season.
Speaker: you put a bunch of people with germs in a house together where the heat is running and no doors are open and you know, you can make a petri dish of, of the flu.
Speaker: But also, and I think this one also often goes like,
Speaker: kind of under-recognized, but mental health challenges are very prevalent at this time of the year.
Speaker: Um, so yeah, family conflicts.
Speaker: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker: But also those who have lost family members, right.
Speaker: Uh, and are feeling like a sense of loneliness or depression that will get worse around the holiday season, because that's usually when you were with your family.
Speaker: Right.
Speaker: And if you've lost a loved one, um, it can be really hard this time of year.
Speaker: And then just, you know, we have to think about our health care workers, like, you know, shout out to all of our colleagues who are going to be working on Thanksgiving and on the holiday season coming up because they are there.
Speaker: Instead of spending time with their families, they are there treating your family or you on the holiday season.
Speaker: So.
Speaker: I would add a couple more things too, and only because we researched the same topic.
Speaker: So I don't want to miss piggybacking here, but just delayed care in general around the holidays.
Speaker: So we think that the numbers decrease for those of us at work in the hospital at the time, maybe the day of the actual, like the actual holiday, things may feel slow for a period of time, but there's always that surge that comes in.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: after.
Speaker: And that's usually those patients is, you know, like Christmas, New Year's, they're all like, I've had this cough for four weeks, but I'm going to wait till after Christmas, then I'll go to the doctor.
Speaker: I'm going to wait till.
Speaker: So to get through the holiday type of patients, we see a rise in these type of things because people are putting things off to be around family.
Speaker: So I actually think that was a great call out.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: I mean, I've seen, you know, I've seen friends do the same thing, right?
Speaker: Like all of the cooking injuries on top of everything else.
Speaker: So, yeah.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: I mean, one good thing about this time of the year, though, is like you can use kind of public public health efforts to kind of promote healthy choices, things like that, you know, but because there is a lot of, you know, publicity around the holidays, right?
Speaker: Like there's a lot of things out there, but I think in general, it's a huge issue.
Speaker: influx of patients at some point or another around the holiday season for us.
Speaker: So, well, and then blackout Wednesday, you mentioned that, right?
Speaker: Like largest drinking night of the year.
Speaker: Anytime you add alcohol to anything, you got, you got problems.
Speaker: So yeah.
Speaker: All right.
Speaker: Well, I think that's a good one.
Speaker: I know we're at the end here.
Speaker: I'm just going to ask a fun one just because we started it with this one.
Speaker: Let's end it.
Speaker: But April, true or false?
Speaker: Green bean casserole was invented by a hospital dietician.
Speaker: False.
Speaker: Of course, we know that.
Speaker: But I just need to tell you where it did come from.
Speaker: So green bean casserole actually originated in Campbell's Test Kitchen for marketing purposes, not for health care nutrition.
Speaker: It is a vegetable, folks, so feel good about it.
Speaker: But its standard recipe was just canned beans, cream-based soup, fried onions, which is high in sodium.
Speaker: We all know that.
Speaker: And it was clinically relevant for heart failure patients or people with hypertension.
Speaker: But it has nothing to do with health in and of itself other than just a little bit of a humorous contrast between food innovation and also our modern dietary recommendations.
Speaker: But it tends to be my favorite meal of all.
Speaker: Thanksgiving that I eat all the time, all day, every day.
Speaker: So I wanted to end it on that.
Speaker: So thanks.
Speaker: Campbell's test kitchen.
Speaker: They had no intention for this to work, but thank you.
Speaker: God, it is pretty yummy.
Speaker: I'll say that.
Speaker: So eat up on Thanksgiving guys.
Speaker: Just don't eat for two days before.
Speaker: Just depending on which one of the last you talk to you, you'll get a different answer.
Speaker: Yeah.
Speaker: There's got to be a, there's got to be a marathon.
Speaker: April does a turkey trot.
Speaker: Go run with April and then go eat your turkey.
Speaker: We don't care.
Speaker: I haven't done a turkey trot in years, actually.
Speaker: I just remember talking about it last year, but yeah, I hope you guys all have a really good Thanksgiving and hopefully this was just fun.
Speaker: A little educating, put it in your pot and walk around the house while you're making all that yummy food.
Speaker: Exactly.
Speaker: Happy Thanksgiving, everyone.
Speaker: Yep.
Speaker: And if you guys want to reach out more, tell us what you made for Thanksgiving.
Speaker: Tell us some other ideas you have for the show.
Speaker: You know where to find us.
Speaker: On call with April and Alicia on Instagram.
Speaker: On call with April and Alicia on LinkedIn.
Speaker: And our email that I'm not even going to say this week unless somebody begs me for it.
Speaker: On call podcast.
Speaker: at soundpositions.com.
Speaker: That's our email.
Speaker: But most importantly, guys, just have a great Thanksgiving.
Speaker: We're glad we could give you a little bonus episode for this week, get you through the week.
Speaker: We'll be back on track back in December, getting ready to talk, talk some Christmas and New Year's and new us, huh?
Speaker: Absolutely.
Speaker: Until next time, guys, you guys stay well and we'll stay on call.
Speaker: Happy Thanksgiving.
Speaker: Happy Thanksgiving, everybody.
