Introduction & Thanksgiving Greetings
00:00:00
Speaker
Dear mommy, I just wanted to say I love you so much.
00:00:03
Speaker
I don't know what I would do without you.
00:00:06
Speaker
You're my bestest friend in the whole wide world that I ever did see with my own two eyes.
00:00:14
Speaker
You're the most six, seven Sigma Alpha I ever did see.
00:00:21
Speaker
This would be really cool to just wear scrubs all the time and you don't have to think about what you're going to wear to work.
00:00:26
Speaker
We're here to answer your questions.
00:00:28
Speaker
We can sit down and discuss them.
00:00:30
Speaker
Wait, I got to go.
00:00:32
Speaker
Wait, you're on call?
00:00:32
Speaker
I thought I was on call.
00:00:36
Speaker
Welcome back to another episode of On Call with April and Alicia.
00:00:42
Speaker
And it's Thanksgiving week.
00:00:45
Speaker
They're getting us back to back two weeks in a row.
00:00:50
Speaker
I know, aren't they?
00:00:54
Speaker
Maybe it's the weather, like the cold, dreary, like, ugh.
00:00:59
Speaker
I woke up and I was like, I'm ready to go back to bed.
Weather Woes & Morning Routine
00:01:02
Speaker
I woke up like, and I snooze, snooze, snooze, snooze.
00:01:06
Speaker
My whole house did that today.
00:01:09
Speaker
I know you're not supposed to do that.
00:01:10
Speaker
Somebody says somewhere you're, it's actually like worse for your brain or something I was reading, but.
00:01:16
Speaker
It's just so nice though to hit that snooze.
00:01:19
Speaker
Oh, there's just, I like the kind of dark morning too.
00:01:21
Speaker
And you just are like.
00:01:23
Speaker
I could just lay in my bed.
00:01:25
Speaker
And then you realize like, I got to get kids to school and I got to do other things and I can't be in bed this morning.
00:01:31
Speaker
But the other morning, the back door usually is like up when I get up.
00:01:35
Speaker
Like when I get up, he's like, oh, it's time to go.
00:01:37
Speaker
And the other morning he was just like laying in his bed and he was like, I'm not moving.
00:01:41
Speaker
It took me like five minutes to get him up.
00:01:43
Speaker
I was like, dude, we're going to go downstairs.
00:01:45
Speaker
He's like, no, like the look he gave me was just like, no, I'm not doing it.
Dog Clothing Debates
00:01:50
Speaker
He needs a sweater.
00:01:54
Speaker
He needs doggy clothing.
00:01:55
Speaker
Everybody, April loves doggy clothing.
00:01:58
Speaker
So send April some great dog ideas.
00:02:00
Speaker
I'm actually not really opposed to it, but... She won't put Baxter in a sweater.
00:02:03
Speaker
But I won't do it.
00:02:05
Speaker
But every year I, like, look at the Halloween costumes and I'm like, oh, they're so cute.
00:02:09
Speaker
But I don't do it.
00:02:10
Speaker
Will he just bite it off?
00:02:12
Speaker
It'll drive him crazy.
00:02:14
Speaker
He has a tail wound right now.
00:02:17
Speaker
He bit his tail and...
00:02:20
Speaker
I put tape around that thing, like a dressing, and I'm like laying there in bed the other night, and I hear this like rip, and he's ripping the tape off of his tail.
00:02:30
Speaker
We had to get Hunter's tail cut off because she, like she's a Dane, but she wagged it so much, and she would smack it up against like...
00:02:45
Speaker
like the side of the door, like the wood, the frames or whatever.
00:02:48
Speaker
And like she wagged it so hard that like it would be these wounds that wouldn't heal.
00:02:52
Speaker
And eventually they had to amputate her tail.
00:02:55
Speaker
Yeah, he had like a skin tag and he bit it off.
00:02:58
Speaker
It was disgusting.
00:03:00
Speaker
I like how a shower one night he's like chewing it.
00:03:02
Speaker
And I was like, oh, my God.
00:03:04
Speaker
It's like adults or kids.
00:03:05
Speaker
So that was I mean, he was in the cone for like two or three weeks.
00:03:09
Speaker
And so then, you know, bumping into things everywhere.
00:03:12
Speaker
And he follows me around.
00:03:13
Speaker
So he's bumping into my knees all day long.
00:03:15
Speaker
So I finally have taken the cone off and I'm just watching him.
00:03:19
Speaker
But he was looking at it like before he ended today.
00:03:22
Speaker
You got to put the phone back on his head before you make all that Thanksgiving food.
00:03:28
Speaker
Or, oh, wait, you're going.
00:03:29
Speaker
You've got plans this Thanksgiving,
Bathroom Sandwich Incident
00:03:33
Speaker
But I got to tell you something.
00:03:34
Speaker
I love how you said I don't cook.
00:03:36
Speaker
Moving on to the next subject.
00:03:39
Speaker
I cook on a daily basis, but not on Thanksgiving.
00:03:42
Speaker
But I have to tell you something.
00:03:43
Speaker
I've been waiting to tell you this for like a few weeks because when it happened, I immediately was like, I have to tell Alicia about this.
00:03:50
Speaker
I wonder if this is when we saw each other at medical director summit and you're like, I was like, I have the podcast and I was like, write it down April.
00:03:56
Speaker
Cause you'll forget.
00:03:57
Speaker
And you're like, I will not forget.
00:03:58
Speaker
I will not forget this.
00:04:00
Speaker
So we were at a, like a sports tournament recently.
00:04:06
Speaker
i went to go to the bathroom like and it was at a high school so like it was like a bathroom with running water and i am not really like a picky person about bathrooms because i grew up going in outhouses in the woods you know so um anyways i walk in it was like probably the dirtiest public bathroom i've ever been in like and there's all these girls in there from other teams and the girls and i like look in one stall that's open it is just disgusting and then the girls are like this one doesn't lock and this one's really dirty so there's like three stalls so
00:04:36
Speaker
another girl is in the third stall.
00:04:37
Speaker
So I'm like, I'll just stand here and wait and like to use the one stall that's decent.
00:04:42
Speaker
Um, and I was like sitting there waiting and the door for the stall opens and this girl walks out with a sandwich in her mouth.
00:04:53
Speaker
And I was like, Oh my God.
00:04:55
Speaker
Like I have to tell Alicia about this.
00:05:05
Speaker
Like here I'm in this bathroom and I'm like, oh my God, this is gross.
00:05:09
Speaker
But I like immediately thought of you and like how we always talk about how like dirty bathrooms are and like our phones are dirty.
00:05:16
Speaker
Like we, cause we've talked about this many times and I was like, I have to tell Alicia about this.
00:05:24
Speaker
That is so disgusting.
00:05:27
Speaker
Oh, I don't even know how to come back from that.
00:05:30
Speaker
I was like, oh gosh.
00:05:32
Speaker
I didn't say anything.
00:05:33
Speaker
I just went to the bathroom, went to the bathroom.
00:05:36
Speaker
I just, bathrooms do it to me like majorly, but I also just, do you just wonder just what?
00:05:54
Speaker
I think I don't think I could have gotten away with just minding my own business at that point.
00:05:59
Speaker
I just feel like you totally would have said something, but I was like, you know, I don't think I would have said it to her, but I don't think I would have not been able to just be like, gross.
00:06:09
Speaker
It's like, I had known, I probably would have said something to like, you know, but anyways, I like instantly thought of you.
00:06:18
Speaker
I was like, I have to tell you about this.
00:06:22
Speaker
Like the person I think at the airport that put their stuff down on the baby changing stage.
00:06:26
Speaker
And I was like, no, not here.
00:06:30
Speaker
Like nobody's wiping this thing down.
00:06:33
Speaker
You might as well just put it on the toilet seat.
00:06:35
Speaker
Make the toilet seat.
00:06:36
Speaker
Why just make the toilet seat your plate?
00:06:38
Speaker
That's so disgusting.
00:06:41
Speaker
Well, I don't have a smell.
00:06:42
Speaker
I don't even know my stomach's upset now.
Youth Slang & Generational Gaps
00:06:46
Speaker
I had something I wanted to share with you, but I can't.
00:06:50
Speaker
And we're going to talk about Thanksgiving on top of this.
00:06:52
Speaker
This is going to be rough.
00:06:54
Speaker
Well, I do have just one funny thing.
00:06:56
Speaker
Speaking of Thanksgiving and I need to get my mind out of the bathroom.
00:07:01
Speaker
Um, Juliana went to a, this like church camp this weekend and they had to write their letters of gratitude.
00:07:08
Speaker
Um, and so for context, I don't know, are your girls hitting you with some really funny, um, just like slang that you're like, I know everybody's like, I don't know what you're saying.
00:07:22
Speaker
And Molly was like, I'm using middle.
00:07:23
Speaker
But then, you know, my husband's a high school teacher.
00:07:25
Speaker
So like they all Dave knows.
00:07:28
Speaker
So they all like, well, have these, like there's conversations that happen in my house.
00:07:32
Speaker
And I'm like, I have no idea what anyone just said.
00:07:36
Speaker
I was at this, like my nephew's pre, I guess, semi like playoff, some off one off football game that he was in.
00:07:45
Speaker
He's like first grade.
00:07:46
Speaker
And he's these little first grade tier leaders are like, yeah,
00:07:50
Speaker
Coach Carol, six, seven.
00:07:53
Speaker
And I was like, what?
00:07:55
Speaker
And I know the six, seven thing kind of, but I'm like, these are like tiny little kids.
00:07:59
Speaker
Like, Coach Carol, six, seven.
00:08:01
Speaker
And I was like, okay, whatever.
00:08:03
Speaker
And my kids will be like, skivity, something, something.
00:08:05
Speaker
And I'm like, what'd you have to say, skivity?
00:08:07
Speaker
So this is the letter, my Thanksgiving gratitude letter I get from my daughter when she comes back from this camp.
00:08:15
Speaker
Dear mommy, we revert to like a little kid sometimes too.
00:08:19
Speaker
I just wanted to say I love you so much.
00:08:23
Speaker
I don't know what I would do without you.
00:08:25
Speaker
You're my bestest friend in the whole wide world that I ever did see with my own two eyes.
00:08:33
Speaker
You're the most six, seven Sigma Alpha I ever did see.
00:08:39
Speaker
You're a literal, I don't even know.
00:08:40
Speaker
You're a literal girl boss.
00:08:42
Speaker
I love all of our talks.
00:08:43
Speaker
And more importantly, you love your favorite daughter in parentheses.
00:08:49
Speaker
I said favorite Juliana.
00:08:52
Speaker
I'm like the most six, seven Sigma alpha.
00:08:57
Speaker
I don't fly planes.
00:08:58
Speaker
I don't know what that means.
00:09:00
Speaker
i know i don't like we were just i like and i asked the girls i'm like i don't even understand like what is this six seven me and they're like we don't know i'm like oh okay yeah six seven six seven ah like you have this arm thing they do and i gotta show you it's like six seven oh i've seen it i've seen it but it's like i'm like i don't understand why we do this and then yesterday i was talking to here's about something and she said um
00:09:24
Speaker
She used some term and I was like, what?
00:09:26
Speaker
What does that even mean?
00:09:28
Speaker
And she's like, it's hard to explain.
00:09:30
Speaker
And they really do have these like deep meanings.
00:09:35
Speaker
There's one from SpongeBob.
00:09:37
Speaker
I have to think about it that I was like, I don't even know.
00:09:41
Speaker
It's like one random line that was used in some form.
00:09:45
Speaker
spinoff spongebob something that they like i was like i don't even for context i have zero idea what you're saying and i do feel like i'm a little hip but i was like i don't i don't even know what this means no not at all or like i'll be like okay i can't i'm right at that progressive commercial phase where i do feel like i can see where i'm turning into my appearance but um you just did like max come in and he'll be like oh school's a w today
00:10:14
Speaker
okay, school's a W, W is a win.
00:10:16
Speaker
I'm like, dub, win, win.
00:10:18
Speaker
So that was a good thing.
00:10:19
Speaker
So you had a good time at school?
00:10:20
Speaker
Yeah, I said it was a W. All right.
00:10:22
Speaker
It's like I have to go backwards and think like, dub, W, all right.
00:10:27
Speaker
And who says school's a W?
00:10:30
Speaker
Well, that's what my kids do.
00:10:34
Speaker
It got me off of the bathroom thought.
00:10:36
Speaker
So thank you for distracting me for just a second and getting me back in the spirit.
00:10:41
Speaker
But I do see all these like...
00:10:43
Speaker
Facebook reels and stuff about, you know, songs we used to listen to when we were their age and things we used to say.
00:10:49
Speaker
So we had our stuff.
00:10:52
Speaker
Like if you, I mean, like I saw one the other day about, um, Yolo, we can't say anything.
00:10:57
Speaker
We used to run around yelling Yolo.
00:11:01
Speaker
I mean, like all of it, if you just think of anything that started, we were right in that generation that began social media and selfie.
00:11:11
Speaker
I mean, that was birthed from our generation.
00:11:13
Speaker
So it just is very interesting to me.
00:11:19
Speaker
how fast we lose track of like what's what's mainstream because I I swear I was like everything made sense until this year and I'm like what the heck are you even saying the last couple years for me for the girls because they both been in once I think once they both hit middle school I was like I don't
00:11:36
Speaker
I don't know what you're talking about.
00:11:36
Speaker
At least you got you do have like a dictionary that lives with you that couldn't break it down for you.
00:11:41
Speaker
I'm like, can you translate for me?
00:11:43
Speaker
Well, you know what?
00:11:45
Speaker
There's a guy on one of the platforms.
00:11:48
Speaker
I don't have Facebook, so it must be Instagram.
00:11:50
Speaker
But he he does like a real teacher update of the week.
00:11:55
Speaker
He's like, OK, parents, so this week.
00:11:57
Speaker
the words I'm hearing.
00:11:58
Speaker
And he breaks every single one of them down, but it's actually kind of funny.
00:12:01
Speaker
I'll send it to you.
00:12:02
Speaker
It's where I first, it was the first week of school this year that I learned six, seven.
00:12:07
Speaker
Cause he goes, all of you are hearing this and no one knows what it means.
00:12:10
Speaker
And I'm still not sure, but six, seven,
00:12:12
Speaker
Well, if you can ask the kids, they don't really understand.
00:12:15
Speaker
Like, they don't know the meaning of it.
00:12:16
Speaker
They just do it, which is funny.
00:12:19
Speaker
It's used in any context.
00:12:20
Speaker
I'm like, you want to say it when we're bored?
00:12:24
Speaker
I'm going to say it all.
00:12:25
Speaker
What if I just start saying it on our work calls today?
00:12:29
Speaker
What does it mean?
Thanksgiving Trivia & Tryptophan
00:12:34
Speaker
It's Thanksgiving weekend.
00:12:36
Speaker
Hey guys, as you can tell, we're like, we're laying back.
00:12:38
Speaker
We're having fun this week.
00:12:39
Speaker
This is, this is a holiday week.
00:12:42
Speaker
And in our typical fashion, holiday, holiday weeks mean competition for us and families and mostly competitions for April and I. So we are going to do, what would we do?
00:12:59
Speaker
yeah thanksgiving's done we did it last year let's do it again and this one is this is for for the win because this might be one of the last times we do this april i know i lost try where we are pretty sure i'm winning pretty sure you're not pretty sure i've won all of them it's pretty sure you lost last time i already did actually i lost majorly last time
00:13:26
Speaker
But anyway, it's time to get serious.
00:13:28
Speaker
We're in the home stretch.
00:13:30
Speaker
So, okay, well, let's do it.
00:13:33
Speaker
You guys know how this game rolls.
00:13:35
Speaker
April and I are just going to ask each other questions.
00:13:37
Speaker
We're going to decide, is what we've asked true or false, or is it fake or for real?
00:13:41
Speaker
But there is some knowledge to be had in some of this.
00:13:43
Speaker
So, April, why don't you start us off?
00:13:47
Speaker
First one, true or false.
00:13:49
Speaker
Eating turkey on Thanksgiving makes you sleep due to the tryptophan in it.
00:13:57
Speaker
I'm going to say it's true, but you're going to say there's other food that has tryptophan in it.
00:14:03
Speaker
I'm going to say it's actually false.
00:14:06
Speaker
That's what I'm going to say.
00:14:07
Speaker
It's true, but it is true.
00:14:10
Speaker
But I think we had the same question.
00:14:14
Speaker
But there are other foods, so hit me with it.
00:14:17
Speaker
So yes, turkey does contain tryptophan, which does promote good sleep, good mood.
00:14:22
Speaker
That's what we hear about, right?
00:14:24
Speaker
I'm in a turkey coma.
00:14:26
Speaker
Like, oh my God, I ate so much turkey.
00:14:28
Speaker
You know, all the things.
00:14:30
Speaker
So tryptophan, it's an essential amino acid.
00:14:34
Speaker
But, you know, again, it is involved in the production of serotonin and melatonin.
00:14:39
Speaker
It's like a precursor, right?
00:14:40
Speaker
Which just kind of makes you sleepy.
00:14:43
Speaker
So people will actually take supplements of tryptophan to try to sleep, but there are other sources of tryptophan, like you mentioned.
00:14:50
Speaker
So milk, cheese, beef, chicken, nuts, soybean, I'll have them.
00:14:54
Speaker
But the other thing too, is that outside of, um,
00:14:59
Speaker
what you're eating, it's also kind of how much you're eating that also makes you sleepy, right?
00:15:04
Speaker
And it's also the fact that we're eating high carb foods.
00:15:07
Speaker
So all of those, you know, we talk with, you know, about the turkey, but then there's also all these sides.
00:15:14
Speaker
that are often very high in carbs right and so um consuming all of that so much like so quick it can raise your blood sugar and then you can get a crash which makes you feel tired um also it's just uh sort of i mean the time of the year too right like it's kind of late fall early winter it's cold outside so you're like i might as well take a nap um and so all these things morning exactly
00:15:42
Speaker
Um, and then also I found this very interesting, a big, big meal of any kind can also change like circulation that affects your energy and focus as well.
00:15:50
Speaker
So it's, it's also, so it's not only just the fact that we're eating Turkey, but we're eating all these carbs.
00:15:55
Speaker
We're also eating huge amounts of it at once.
00:15:58
Speaker
Um, and so advice to try to keep a little bit more alert after your Thanksgiving meal, eat a little more slowly, eat smaller portions, um,
00:16:08
Speaker
Stop eating when you're full, take a walk after dinner to get yourself moving and get those carbohydrates moving.
00:16:14
Speaker
So all those things will help you stay awake if you want to stay awake, but if you want to curl up on the couch and take a nap, go for it.
00:16:23
Speaker
Or if you just want to never get out of bed and have your children serve you all your Thanksgiving food in your bed, all your sides, because that's all I'm going to eat.
00:16:32
Speaker
Yeah, you can do that.
00:16:33
Speaker
That's a terrible medical advice.
00:16:35
Speaker
OK, well, I think I want to piggyback.
00:16:38
Speaker
I was actually scrolling through what you were saying yours, because I'm going to piggyback off the food.
00:16:42
Speaker
Let's keep it in food spirit for just a second.
00:16:46
Speaker
You're talking about what we consume.
Calorie Count & Holiday Eating Habits
00:16:50
Speaker
The average American consumes more than 4000 calories and 150 grams of fat on Thanksgiving Day.
00:16:57
Speaker
Oh, I think that's true.
00:17:00
Speaker
But I thought that was astronomical.
00:17:02
Speaker
And I actually thought that you would overthink this one because of how specific I was about the grams of fat.
00:17:09
Speaker
But you're absolutely right.
00:17:10
Speaker
They say like calorie analysis for a typical Thanksgiving meal is roughly like 3,500 to 4,500 calories.
00:17:18
Speaker
Sometimes it's really over 5,000.
00:17:20
Speaker
If you include drinks, be it just sodas or whatever and desserts, alcohol, all of that kind of stuff.
00:17:28
Speaker
roughly two days of our recommended intake in one meal.
00:17:33
Speaker
In like a half hour.
00:17:37
Speaker
But our pancreas and our gallbladder, if you still have, like April doesn't have hers, but we all have a pancreas.
00:17:43
Speaker
And if you've got your gallbladder, those digestive organs get no holiday, folks.
00:17:49
Speaker
So Thanksgiving is like notorious for gallstones.
00:17:52
Speaker
Did you know this?
00:17:53
Speaker
Gallstones symptom flare-ups.
00:17:56
Speaker
It doesn't surprise me, but I never thought about that.
00:17:59
Speaker
So I was like, wow, this is what all this calorie and fat is hitting us with.
00:18:04
Speaker
It would be basically you'd have to run.
00:18:07
Speaker
This is kind of just a fun fact, though, but you basically have to run an entire marathon, 26.2, to burn off that calorie load.
00:18:21
Speaker
But you know, I do it every year.
00:18:22
Speaker
I'm just like, well, one day.
00:18:24
Speaker
So what happens if I don't eat for three days?
00:18:29
Speaker
That's how I would rationalize.
00:18:30
Speaker
I don't think that that works, but.
00:18:32
Speaker
Well, but you know, on Thanksgiving, you wake up and you're like, I'm just not going to eat all day.
00:18:37
Speaker
Oh, I do eat breakfast, but it's usually like a piece of pumpkin pie for breakfast.
00:18:40
Speaker
Like it's not on Thanksgiving day.
00:18:45
Speaker
Oh, I didn't think the pies broke out until at least the middle of the afternoon.
00:18:48
Speaker
But I mean, I just got to test them for everybody.
00:18:52
Speaker
But if you had green bean casserole sitting out in the morning, I'd be eating it.
00:18:58
Speaker
Probably every pie is the night before.
00:18:59
Speaker
I shouldn't say we.
00:19:00
Speaker
My father and I makes the pies.
00:19:02
Speaker
And I was going to say April.
00:19:03
Speaker
We already know April doesn't cook.
00:19:05
Speaker
April doesn't cook on Thanksgiving, guys.
00:19:07
Speaker
I make mashed potatoes.
00:19:09
Speaker
Oh, no, I like those.
00:19:11
Speaker
Okay, okay, let's stay on topic.
00:19:14
Speaker
We're going to make a lot of people hungry today.
00:19:20
Speaker
All right, let's go.
00:19:21
Speaker
The time of day you sit down for Thanksgiving dinner could have an impact on your health.
00:19:29
Speaker
The time of day you sit down, I'm going to say true.
00:19:34
Speaker
So it's so bizarre.
00:19:35
Speaker
So it's gotta be true.
00:19:37
Speaker
I've never heard this.
00:19:38
Speaker
I had not heard this either, but I thought it was very interesting.
00:19:41
Speaker
So, um, the timing of your meal can make the like all the difference for your digestion.
00:19:49
Speaker
nutritionists say that somewhere between three 30 and five o'clock is the sweet spot.
00:19:55
Speaker
But, um, you know, I mean, we eat at like one or two.
00:19:58
Speaker
So I think a lot of people eat earlier in the day, but, um, that kind of like mid afternoon spot is, is better health wise.
00:20:05
Speaker
Um, because if you eat too early, then you tend to linger around the table for hours, leading to like multiple helpings of each course just to pass the time.
00:20:14
Speaker
So you're sort of eating more because you're just there longer, right?
00:20:17
Speaker
Like, and you're there eating more, uh,
00:20:21
Speaker
And then if you wait too late, then you end up overeating at dinner because you're and then you're eating later.
00:20:27
Speaker
You're so stuffed.
00:20:28
Speaker
And there's all those calories that you just consumed that you're trying to.
00:20:32
Speaker
digest while you're starting, like actually starting to kind of wind down for the day.
00:20:36
Speaker
So, um, you want to eat, um, late enough so that you're not there eating forever, but you also need to eat early enough so that you can move around and digest all that food that you eat.
00:20:46
Speaker
And speaking of that, you're not supposed to avoid breakfast because, uh, if you skip breakfast, then you're going to be like way more hungry at the time of the meal.
00:20:55
Speaker
And you're going to eat more than you would have had you had something for breakfast.
00:20:58
Speaker
Okay, I'm going to, I need to throw down a flag on this play because I don't think you have to eat breakfast like people think you do.
00:21:09
Speaker
Maybe we need to do a podcast on this.
00:21:12
Speaker
If I eat breakfast, I will not eat again until later in the afternoon.
00:21:19
Speaker
I am never hungry when I wake up in the morning.
00:21:23
Speaker
I wake up hungry every day.
00:21:25
Speaker
So maybe it's like, I feel like if I eat breakfast.
00:21:30
Speaker
I think if I had Thanksgiving in the morning, like you said, you woke up and ate pie, I would eat less during the day.
00:21:37
Speaker
But if I wait until mid-afternoon, I feel like, well, I'll eat a lot fast.
00:21:45
Speaker
But that's not what you're supposed to do.
00:21:46
Speaker
I know, but I'm just saying I'll eat some other portions.
00:21:50
Speaker
But not consistently.
00:21:53
Speaker
That's the grazing thing, right?
00:21:54
Speaker
Isn't that what they say?
00:21:55
Speaker
You eat earlier, you're just going to eat all day.
00:21:58
Speaker
I just, I, maybe it's just me and I'm an outlier.
00:22:01
Speaker
No, I mean, I know plenty of people who don't eat breakfast, but I just, I always have been one that I eat breakfast every day.
00:22:07
Speaker
Cause I, I wake up hungry.
00:22:09
Speaker
Like I'm hungry in the morning when the kids are getting off to the bus and then I'll, so I'll eat breakfast and then I'm like hungry again at lunchtime.
00:22:15
Speaker
So yeah, I, I, I, I joke, but I like, don't skip a meal.
00:22:21
Speaker
And they can't hear me talk.
00:22:22
Speaker
People probably think I'm overweight.
00:22:23
Speaker
But but no, I mean, I eat all three meals every day.
00:22:29
Speaker
Well, that's because it's a rule somewhere and you know, it's because I get hungry and then I get angry.
00:22:36
Speaker
Like if I don't eat and I'm hungry, like nobody around me is happy.
00:22:41
Speaker
My whole family is like, Mom, can you just eat?
00:22:44
Speaker
Like, can you eat something?
00:22:45
Speaker
And then we'll talk to you.
00:22:46
Speaker
I didn't really believe that hangry was real until I got around hangry people.
00:22:52
Speaker
I get hungry, but I don't get mean.
00:22:54
Speaker
I think I get hungry.
00:22:56
Speaker
I have a period of tiny frustration, but if I get too hungry, I can't eat.
00:23:00
Speaker
Do you ever get to that point where you're past hungry?
00:23:03
Speaker
No, I have to eat.
00:23:05
Speaker
I'm striking out all over the place.
00:23:09
Speaker
Somebody in the universe feels me, right?
00:23:13
Speaker
If I wait too long, I get mad because now I can't eat.
00:23:17
Speaker
I can eat and I have to, otherwise I'm like a bear to be around and I know it.
00:23:21
Speaker
And the thing is, is like, I know I'm doing it and I can't stop myself.
00:23:25
Speaker
Like I can't be like, like sometimes I like, okay guys, I'm really sorry.
00:23:28
Speaker
I'm really hungry.
00:23:29
Speaker
Like, let's just go eat.
00:23:30
Speaker
And they're like, okay.
00:23:31
Speaker
You know, it happens most often in like theme parks where like, you know, we're like go, go, go.
00:23:35
Speaker
And then I'm like, oh my God, I'm starving.
00:23:47
Speaker
Let's talk about the wishbone.
00:23:55
Speaker
The turkey wishbone was used as a diagnostic tool in ancient medicine.
00:24:01
Speaker
It's actually true.
00:24:05
Speaker
Oh, I'm surprised I stumped you on this one.
00:24:07
Speaker
But in a ritualistic sense.
00:24:08
Speaker
So there are these historical records that show that Romans use the forcula.
00:24:18
Speaker
which is like, I guess, technically what they call it, interpreting, interpreted omens about their health or fertility or future events.
00:24:25
Speaker
So it's like not technically medicine, but it was.
00:24:28
Speaker
When you say diagnostic, I think medicine.
00:24:32
Speaker
So I'm going to throw a flag on this play because you can go ahead.
00:24:35
Speaker
But I just thought it was still interesting that they, they used it like in diagnostic guidance and early healing practices.
00:24:44
Speaker
It is the wishbones form and the fractures, like symbolically guided decisions about illness.
00:24:51
Speaker
So if they were talking to somebody kind of like, I think of it like somebody that reads palms or we used to do like crystal balls or whatever, tarot card reading.
00:25:00
Speaker
So it was a way to help guide.
00:25:03
Speaker
people on what decisions they needed to make about their illness or if they were farmers, their harvest or what societal events they should even be planning to attend.
00:25:16
Speaker
So it's just a little bit more of a fun example, a little bit more superstition.
00:25:20
Speaker
But it does to me, I think like.
00:25:24
Speaker
illustrate how far we've evolved from like ritual base interpretations to like evidence-driven diagnostics, you know, so, but yeah, it was, it was before we had our modern day electronic crystal balls known as MRIs, CAT scans, those types of things, they used a wishbone to guide them.
00:25:43
Speaker
We always used to argue about who was going to break, you know, get to pull the wishbone when we were kids.
00:25:47
Speaker
No, and that's terrible.
00:25:50
Speaker
Like, there's just a thought of breaking the bone.
00:25:56
Speaker
But you know what?
00:25:56
Speaker
We, like, that's one thing I never...
00:25:59
Speaker
We never fought about, but yes, I remember as a kid, like my mom would be like, here's the wish ball and you finally get it out.
00:26:05
Speaker
And then, um, what is it like two people pull it and whoever ends up with the larger piece or wish comes through luck or something.
00:26:13
Speaker
But you know what?
00:26:13
Speaker
It's that, that pulling.
00:26:15
Speaker
So that fracture, that's what I'm talking about when they decided decisions.
00:26:20
Speaker
So they put two people on like the side of like, you're going to do this.
00:26:24
Speaker
this is what we should do for your health or this.
00:26:25
Speaker
And however it broke with that person it broke with would be how they made the decisions.
00:26:30
Speaker
Like that's where that tradition comes from for us, which is weird that we were making life decisions.
00:26:36
Speaker
We did it at one point and now we're just like wishing on a star.
00:26:40
Speaker
But I also like, like biomechanically, it's kind of a nerd moment, but the wishbone itself is what helps direct birds in flight.
00:26:53
Speaker
interesting it's it's like the strongest light like mechanism that the bird has inside their body so a little fun fact there too yeah right never look at wishbones the same huh no i will not i don't it just makes me think indiana jones but it was like indiana jones in the temple of doom is what i thought when i saw that question um
00:27:14
Speaker
And for those of you... Random, but okay.
00:27:16
Speaker
I know, well, no, but I'm thinking old, like, Aztec or Mayan, like, cultural stuff.
00:27:22
Speaker
But, like, all the weird... They have, like, these weird...
00:27:28
Speaker
like temple things they did.
00:27:30
Speaker
Do you remember like when they pulled a guy's heart out with his hand?
00:27:33
Speaker
That's what it makes me think of.
00:27:35
Speaker
You're just pulling stuff out of birds back in those days and making decisions on life and death.
00:27:39
Speaker
That's very Indiana Jones to me.
00:27:45
Speaker
Let's talk about food.
00:27:47
Speaker
Well, my last question is not about food, but are we on the last round?
00:27:52
Speaker
So, but I do think it's actually important to talk about this because I think people don't realize about this.
00:28:01
Speaker
The emergency room typically sees a decrease in visits around Thanksgiving.
Holiday Health Hazards
00:28:06
Speaker
Oh, that's going to be false.
00:28:09
Speaker
I knew you would get this one, but I think it's important to talk about.
00:28:12
Speaker
Because in reality, the emergency room actually sees an increase in visits around Thanksgiving and actually just around the holidays in general.
00:28:21
Speaker
So kind of Thanksgiving is the start of that.
00:28:24
Speaker
But there's several things that happen.
00:28:26
Speaker
So one, you mentioned gallstones, but two, the overeating, alcohol consumption, you mentioned we all have a pancreas, so you can get pancreatitis, right?
00:28:34
Speaker
So that's triggered by overeating, excessive alcohol.
00:28:39
Speaker
So that can happen.
00:28:41
Speaker
There's also people with cardiac disease.
00:28:43
Speaker
So there's things, you know, there's this concept of like the holiday heart, right?
00:28:47
Speaker
So holiday heart syndrome.
00:28:50
Speaker
So it's, it results from overindulgence in it.
00:28:55
Speaker
food and alcohol and just liquids in general for people with heart failure.
00:28:59
Speaker
But you combine that with the stress of the holiday season.
00:29:03
Speaker
And we will see a surge in cardiac events around this time of the year.
00:29:08
Speaker
We also see traffic accidents, you know, people drinking and dinner and then leaving and getting in accidents on the way home, especially if it's an area where it's snowing, things like that.
00:29:20
Speaker
Seasonal illness is at a peak rate.
00:29:21
Speaker
We're coming up on flu season.
00:29:24
Speaker
you put a bunch of people with germs in a house together where the heat is running and no doors are open and you know, you can make a petri dish of, of the flu.
00:29:35
Speaker
But also, and I think this one also often goes like,
00:29:39
Speaker
kind of under-recognized, but mental health challenges are very prevalent at this time of the year.
00:29:44
Speaker
Um, so yeah, family conflicts.
00:29:48
Speaker
But also those who have lost family members, right.
00:29:51
Speaker
Uh, and are feeling like a sense of loneliness or depression that will get worse around the holiday season, because that's usually when you were with your family.
00:29:58
Speaker
And if you've lost a loved one, um, it can be really hard this time of year.
00:30:04
Speaker
And then just, you know, we have to think about our health care workers, like, you know, shout out to all of our colleagues who are going to be working on Thanksgiving and on the holiday season coming up because they are there.
00:30:15
Speaker
Instead of spending time with their families, they are there treating your family or you on the holiday season.
00:30:21
Speaker
I would add a couple more things too, and only because we researched the same topic.
00:30:27
Speaker
So I don't want to miss piggybacking here, but just delayed care in general around the holidays.
00:30:33
Speaker
So we think that the numbers decrease for those of us at work in the hospital at the time, maybe the day of the actual, like the actual holiday, things may feel slow for a period of time, but there's always that surge that comes in.
00:30:49
Speaker
And that's usually those patients is, you know, like Christmas, New Year's, they're all like, I've had this cough for four weeks, but I'm going to wait till after Christmas, then I'll go to the doctor.
00:30:58
Speaker
I'm going to wait till.
00:30:59
Speaker
So to get through the holiday type of patients, we see a rise in these type of things because people are putting things off to be around family.
00:31:08
Speaker
So I actually think that was a great call out.
00:31:12
Speaker
I mean, I've seen, you know, I've seen friends do the same thing, right?
00:31:15
Speaker
Like all of the cooking injuries on top of everything else.
00:31:20
Speaker
I mean, one good thing about this time of the year, though, is like you can use kind of public public health efforts to kind of promote healthy choices, things like that, you know, but because there is a lot of, you know, publicity around the holidays, right?
00:31:35
Speaker
Like there's a lot of things out there, but I think in general, it's a huge issue.
00:31:41
Speaker
influx of patients at some point or another around the holiday season for us.
00:31:45
Speaker
So, well, and then blackout Wednesday, you mentioned that, right?
00:31:48
Speaker
Like largest drinking night of the year.
00:31:51
Speaker
Anytime you add alcohol to anything, you got, you got problems.
00:31:56
Speaker
Well, I think that's a good one.
00:31:57
Speaker
I know we're at the end here.
00:31:59
Speaker
I'm just going to ask a fun one just because we started it with this one.
00:32:05
Speaker
But April, true or false?
00:32:09
Speaker
Green bean casserole was invented by a hospital dietician.
00:32:14
Speaker
Of course, we know that.
00:32:15
Speaker
But I just need to tell you where it did come from.
00:32:16
Speaker
So green bean casserole actually originated in Campbell's Test Kitchen for marketing purposes, not for health care nutrition.
00:32:26
Speaker
It is a vegetable, folks, so feel good about it.
00:32:31
Speaker
But its standard recipe was just canned beans, cream-based soup, fried onions, which is high in sodium.
00:32:40
Speaker
And it was clinically relevant for heart failure patients or people with hypertension.
00:32:44
Speaker
But it has nothing to do with health in and of itself other than just a little bit of a humorous contrast between food innovation and also our modern dietary recommendations.
00:32:54
Speaker
But it tends to be my favorite meal of all.
00:32:58
Speaker
Thanksgiving that I eat all the time, all day, every day.
00:33:00
Speaker
So I wanted to end it on that.
00:33:03
Speaker
Campbell's test kitchen.
00:33:04
Speaker
They had no intention for this to work, but thank you.
Green Bean Casserole Origins & Farewell
00:33:07
Speaker
God, it is pretty yummy.
00:33:10
Speaker
So eat up on Thanksgiving guys.
00:33:13
Speaker
Just don't eat for two days before.
00:33:17
Speaker
Just depending on which one of the last you talk to you, you'll get a different answer.
00:33:20
Speaker
There's got to be a, there's got to be a marathon.
00:33:24
Speaker
April does a turkey trot.
00:33:25
Speaker
Go run with April and then go eat your turkey.
00:33:27
Speaker
I haven't done a turkey trot in years, actually.
00:33:30
Speaker
I just remember talking about it last year, but yeah, I hope you guys all have a really good Thanksgiving and hopefully this was just fun.
00:33:36
Speaker
A little educating, put it in your pot and walk around the house while you're making all that yummy food.
00:33:42
Speaker
Happy Thanksgiving, everyone.
00:33:44
Speaker
And if you guys want to reach out more, tell us what you made for Thanksgiving.
00:33:49
Speaker
Tell us some other ideas you have for the show.
00:33:50
Speaker
You know where to find us.
00:33:52
Speaker
On call with April and Alicia on Instagram.
00:33:55
Speaker
On call with April and Alicia on LinkedIn.
00:33:57
Speaker
And our email that I'm not even going to say this week unless somebody begs me for it.
00:34:04
Speaker
at soundpositions.com.
00:34:07
Speaker
But most importantly, guys, just have a great Thanksgiving.
00:34:09
Speaker
We're glad we could give you a little bonus episode for this week, get you through the week.
00:34:13
Speaker
We'll be back on track back in December, getting ready to talk, talk some Christmas and New Year's and new us, huh?
00:34:21
Speaker
Until next time, guys, you guys stay well and we'll stay on call.
00:34:24
Speaker
Happy Thanksgiving.
00:34:25
Speaker
Happy Thanksgiving, everybody.