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Sizzling Setterfield, Jason Horne-Franc-ICE, and do we bite the Ziebullet? PLUS: Steele and Gawn options | Round 2 AFL Fantasy #PODPOD
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Will Setterfield is running riot, JHF is ice cold, and the 32-year-old Ziebell once again throws his hat in the ring as a genuine stud fantasy option! Plus, there are more forced trades to deal with following the unfortunate injuries of Max Gawn and Jack Steele; who do we trade them to and what does it mean for their teammates? Plenty to discuss in the latest episode of the PODPOD!
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Transcript
Introduction to Podly Pod and Fantasy Footy
00:00:02
Speaker
G'day.
00:00:18
Speaker
And welcome to the Podly Pod Pod, it's ya boi Darcy on this Monday night, March 27th, 2023, talkin' all things AFL fantasy. No homsey tonight, but we do have three members of the Pod Squad on deck to discuss all the hottest topics from round
Fantasy Footy Weekend Recap
00:00:34
Speaker
two. First up, Louis, how's your fantasy footy weekend? And let's get a bit of a score and rank update.
00:00:41
Speaker
Yeah it's been a little bit of an underwhelming start for me mate. I went the 1966 this week which means I still haven't been able to bring up the double century unfortunately so that brings me up to a total rank of 33,516. It's probably a little bit of unfamiliar territory at this point but it is a trading game so I'm pretty keen to make some nice trades and bring that ranking in and see if we can flip there Dossy.
00:01:10
Speaker
Yeah, I'm sure we'll be on and up as well. And we do give a little shout out to Holmsey. Not the greatest start to his year either, but apparently copying it from the kids at school as well, really getting into him with that score and rank as well. But we shout out to our boy, Holmsey, and we know he's going to bounce back big time in the coming weeks and come up with a couple of good scores, I reckon. But Hami, how was your weekend, mate? Fantasy score and rank as well?
00:01:37
Speaker
Ah, yep, no, weekend wasn't too bad, Ospie. Score of 2015 points, so two more than last week, which was good to see. Heading in the right direction and the rank 20,349. So quite a bit of work to do over the next 22 rounds.
00:01:57
Speaker
Yep. Have faith in you too, mate. I'm sure the whole pod squad here is going to be rising toward hat territory in no time. But one man in very firm contention in the early days. I don't want to get ahead of myself, but I think he's already great again. We've campaigned to make Stado great again, but Stado, how is your fantasy footy weekend as well?
00:02:19
Speaker
I'm a little bit as expected. I was very lucky that didn't have those little problems that a few other coaches had. So I just did a rookie repair. So therefore it didn't impact my squad on the field, but also means you don't hop on the people that were
00:02:36
Speaker
hot or showing real potential round one. So a little bit of a fallback in rank score was 2037 with a rank of 1,526. If I go back a month ago and said after two rounds you'll be around the top 1,500, would you be happy with that? And I would have said I was elated despite a few little issues popping up over the weekend.
00:03:04
Speaker
But your standards are rising by the week, Stado. So you're setting higher bar for yourself every week. We set a pretty low bar for you, mate. So don't worry. We think you're doing great. Me, myself, my score was 1994, underwhelming this week for the Luxe favorite. But the rank slid out to 6,331. But as I was saying to you guys, pre-show, pretty happy with that result. Because I ended up holding Josh Kelly, one of my injuries for the week.
00:03:33
Speaker
And to retain a, I was pretty sweaty early on about some of my premium scores, but then to bounce back and have a pretty big Sunday with some of my unique players was quite good.
Lux or Suck Segment
00:03:45
Speaker
But let's talk about some of those players in our Lux or Suck segment, starting off with our good picks for the weeks and those high Lux winning picks in Lux. You know that Lux is mine from the start
00:04:00
Speaker
All right, let's go back around the circle. And Louis, who was your Lux for the week? Yeah, I think it might have been Harvey mentioned him last week, but I just got to pay respect to Harry Sheasel, not only scoring 135 on debut, but then backing it up again with a 127. So I understand he's in pretty much everybody's teams, but you have to respect that and gets us off to a great little start with our cash generation in the forward line.
00:04:26
Speaker
Can you believe there's 32% of teams without him? It's remarkable. Unreal. What a player. Early days. And Stado may be a captain option for us, as I think you've tweeted out on the weekend, literally at the moment looking like it, with the juicy matchup this week as well. Hami, what about you? Your luck's pick for the week.
00:04:47
Speaker
Oh look, with some of my late changes to my team heading into round one, the Elliott Yo out actually came to a bit of a perfect pick for me because I brought in Nick Daikos and he's been pretty awesome the first two rounds. I can't fault what he's doing out there for me.
00:05:07
Speaker
Yep. From a first year player to a second year player. Um, we did believe that he'd, he'd still have that uptick on this show. We were all quite high on that second year, despite how good his first year was to go up a level. And my goodness, um, in the first couple of weeks, you'd probably expect as some coaches have been wary of that the tag may come and some more attention will come his way. But it seems like he's hopefully going to take that on board and still just go onwards and upwards state. Oh, your luck speak for the week.
00:05:32
Speaker
Yeah, after a solid first week, my luck's pick took another step forward with LDU scoring 123 and some of his play was simply amazing. And I thought I'll give him a shout out this round because I reckon there might be a Finn McGinnis visit next week when he plays Hawthorne. So we may not be able to give him too much praise next week. So expecting a little bit of a dropper score.
00:05:59
Speaker
I saw, I think that, was it Simpkin got rubbed out for a week? Did he get offered a week? So that doesn't help us with the tag there, does it? No. Simpkin's not worth tagging at the moment anyway, I don't reckon. Harmy, but.
00:06:12
Speaker
I think LDU will do fine with it. And Stado, I just might point out, LDU, parish two. Going quite well to start the season, as you might know. All right, my Lux pick for the week. I'm going with Matt Rowell, and it is a loose pick. I was sweating bullets, and this is what I was alluding to on the Sunday. As I held Josh Kelly, I really wanted to
00:06:39
Speaker
get a midfielder to compliment my midfield and someone that's on the rise, but I just didn't have that trust that some people have in Warpool retaining his role in the Hawks midfield, which he actually did drop his center bounce usage. Also had the tough matchup against Sydney this week. I went in a different direction. Yes, I did pay up a little bit extra coin, which may hurt me in the long run. Went Matt Rao.
00:07:02
Speaker
God, his effort around the contest looking fantastic. I thought it was a quite a tough matchup with Essen in this week, given their spread type game, but he scored 95 for me. And I'm taking that as a, as an awesome pick. If he can continue this and be that, that guy that we, we thought he might've been going number one pick just a few years ago. Um, any thoughts on Matt Rau quickly? Cause I've got him in another segment, but any thoughts on Matt round? Do you guys believe in, in the great man?
00:07:29
Speaker
He's got the role, he's got the talent. It's not something that Matt Rau hasn't been able to do previously. He has strung two or three good games together. It's just whether or not he can put it together for a season. So I think he will eventually. I don't mind the pick and you're a brave coach for jumping on in round two, Dossie. So I hope it goes well for you.
Trade Regrets and Strategy Discussions
00:07:50
Speaker
Very brave. Let's get to our sucks.
00:07:53
Speaker
Louis, letter it mate, who sucks for you this week. Yeah, well to be honest mate, it was me and my decision to trade on the Sunday, so I saw the differential between Sean Darcy and Tim English and I thought to myself that's something I might have to fix up.
00:08:10
Speaker
next week and my original trade was she'd up to Setterfield but if I had done that I wouldn't have had enough cash left over to just simply put it on top of Sean Darcy's head this week and grab English so I ended up doing chess at Orland and the reason for that was because
00:08:28
Speaker
I saw that Hewitt was debuting as the sub. Chesa was a bit underdone last week and it just made sense that he might be subbed off for a pause score and then lost to the waffle, which does start next week. And I was right on that to this point, but watching Satterfield go 126,
00:08:47
Speaker
in that same game while I watched Ullund go 21 was a bit of a hard watch. So can't complain too much about it. It's only early and it's hard to jump on the right mid price sometimes but that was a bit of a rough watch.
00:09:04
Speaker
Yeah, it is rough for any non Setterfield owners who I think it's pretty much everyone bar made didn't even manage to get my luck So I was just keen to give it to my pod in Maddy Rao But Setterfield having a hot start and we'll be talking about him soon. Hami, who was your socks?
00:09:19
Speaker
Well, my sucks was Jack McRae. I'm not sure if you guys are owners, but watching that game, I was feeling physically ill with the role that he had moping around the forward line. He was sort of, I don't know, he was trying to get involved at different points in time, but out of the CBA rotation for Caleb Daniel, question mark, what's going on with that? And I think it's definitely contributed to the way that the Western Bulldogs have started.
00:09:47
Speaker
I don't know what Babbo's thinking there. He got what he deserved in my opinion. So thanks for the 73 there, Babbo.
00:09:54
Speaker
Louis a rife smile on his face. Keen to comment on this one? No, well, I mean, I mean the positive is that the dogs have dropped their first two. They haven't looked good at all. And McRae's not actually been in that number one CBA role that we did see him actually play last year. So if you want to be optimistic, I think there's a lot of upside left in McRae. Clearly the Bulldogs have to try something different.
00:10:20
Speaker
Yeah, it does sting seeing Caleb Daniel run around in there when Jack McCrae stuck up forward. That's for sure That's still got Treloar that didn't even play who I figured he'd just be straight in there again without Treloar in the side So yeah, really disappointing army. Baz Smith had a reduction too in in CBO. So a bit of crazy Bebo going on there.
00:10:42
Speaker
Generally, each year, I try and stick fat with these players and not trade them out. Jesus is going to test the patience there with this one, just with people being thrown around. Anyway, I haven't traded him out on the Sunday night at this point in time. He's still in my team.
00:11:03
Speaker
Yes, second year of disappointment though for Jack McRae owners. Stado, your socks. Yes, mine is unlike Harmey. I didn't go to a good option when Elliot Yeo dropped out. I actually had a look at the draw. I was really worried with the defensive line right through the pre-season.
00:11:24
Speaker
So I went to someone that looked good in the pre-season game, talk of the new role for him that was going to be really good. And he did disappoint too much round one, but he certainly did watching the game yesterday, and that's Jordan Ridley.
00:11:45
Speaker
giving me a 64 and how annoying when he's dropped three sitters on the trot. Three marks he should easily have taken and there's another 18 points just like that. All of a sudden you've got a low 80 score and you're probably surviving. He's going to stick on for one week because he's got St Kilda as the matchup but he's certainly looking where the replacement options are for the following week.
00:12:17
Speaker
Correct me if I'm wrong Stado, but last time you were in contention, you also started off the year with an intercept marking defender and Jacob Wiedering back in the day, I reckon when you finished the third. So maybe this is actually a good omen for you to have an underperforming intercept defender. Yeah. If I remember correctly, I had some cash in the bank too and I could have had Cade
00:12:41
Speaker
uh simpson um and ended up with a good week drink gave me 40 points round one and i lost the compo too what an idiot brutal scenes all right my uh sucks for the week to round out our um misery here justin long bevo um coming in with some strange coaching tactics for the first couple of weeks here i don't know if you guys have
00:13:11
Speaker
being hurt by this. I know Stado's probably happy with the sarongs held his role nice and firm there and he's bounced back for you but for me, I copped the brunt of it with two point of differences. I guess Sean Darcy less so now that a lot of owners jumped on following a few injuries to Ruchman but...
00:13:29
Speaker
Yeah, Sean Darcy basically not being the preferred ruck for that first half of the game really, really hurt his stocks. I think he was a negative one at quarter time, 11 at halftime or something stupid like that. So yeah, not a great start for Sean Darcy. And then also to throw more salt in that wound, my
00:13:48
Speaker
point of difference was going Will Brody up against Tom Green to start the year, opted to go Brody, thought he'd get more time on ground with Mundy retiring. It's been the opposite. He's had less time on ground. He's actually had less center bounces, dropped his center bounces down to like 30% this week as they opted to go with guys like Switkowski and others. So Justin Longbevo mixing up the magnets and are you guys concerned? I mean for
00:14:16
Speaker
you know, trusting Dockers, I mean, the two sturdy ones, Brayshaw and Sarong seem okay, but everyone else is kind of a bit of a risk at the moment. I was hit hard on myself, Dospy. One of my trade-ins for the week was Hayden Young. And they, you know, he's gone from being one of the best kicks in the league to let's not kick it anywhere near him. So I was a bit gutted, but I don't think that
00:14:42
Speaker
The coaching staff is really affecting their number one man though. He popped out a 120 again on the week and he's killing it.
Injury Impact on Fantasy Teams
00:14:51
Speaker
Yes. Well, speaking of all the hottest issues facing facing coaches heading into round three, let's get into our hot topics for the week. And these are brought to you by the keeper league pod, as is the entire episode. And just remember, it's not just for your caper leagues. Head over to caperleaguepod.com.au for all your fantasy classic draft and keeper league info. Um, support them by
00:15:17
Speaker
Support our sponsors to support us as well and that's use the code podpod at signup to get 20% off. You get all your rookie data heading into from the draft. This year you also get state league scores, CBAs, kick-in trends which start really kicking in, pardon the pun, in the next couple of weeks as we get some more data. Let's get into our hot topics though.
00:15:38
Speaker
Okay, Max Gorn and Jack Steele owners. You don't feel as bad for the Jack Steele owners who got a nice score, but Max Gorn, that is rough for owners, Louis.
00:15:49
Speaker
Oh, big time mate. Um, I'm not sure he's as highly owned as what he has been in the past. So, um, I guess that's a positive, but to see him go down on four, um, that's massive. And I think he's missing, was it six weeks has been reported. So yeah, that's the rough estimate. I think the rough timeline at the moment for his injury. So it was like an MCL sprain. So yeah.
00:16:12
Speaker
I think the interesting thing to take out of this and I saw somebody tweet it is that we're probably ruling out Gorn and Grundy's DPP status for the rest of the year now because Grundy's going to be full-time Ruck for the next six weeks. Gorn probably won't get back in time to snag it at round 12 and then you know round 18 is anybody's guess but it'd have to be pretty favorable in one way or the other so
00:16:37
Speaker
I think that's the downside. I think a few coaches might have been hoping that we might get some DPP out of them, but unfortunately he's a trade. I'm not sure what he dropped to, but he should have some cash on his head still to be able to pivot somewhere half decent, but it is unfortunate.
00:16:57
Speaker
Stado, with that in mind for Gorn owners, is it an easy swap? And for anyone struggling in their ruck department, he's 849K by the way, so is it an easy swap now to go over to Grundy for that potential sugar hit, as you like to say, for the next, you know, however long it takes, if that's six weeks, less or more, but he's especially got the Sydney matchup this week to kick off that sugar.
00:17:20
Speaker
Yeah there could be a bit of sugar there but the concern goes how many trades do you want to give up in your ruck department? So you're already doing one but you're going to someone that could only be the number one ruckman for the next four weeks. Could be longer but it's a guessing model but what we've seen the evidence so far
00:17:43
Speaker
he's not the right pick in the longer term. So as soon as Gorn's back, he's effectively sharing the load and not getting that ceiling scores. And although he's got a good matchup as well, he's also got a high break even. So it's not as if you also get a cash return as well as points return. So I don't think it's the best option. I think you've got plenty of decent ones out there.
00:18:13
Speaker
And the first two really need to be what we thought was one and two from the start in in Marshall and English So so to not Use more trades in the rock state. Oh, is that when a Darcy Cameron who potentially could be a top? You know six to ten forward does he come into the fold now and you make a hundred K out of it. Oh
00:18:34
Speaker
Yeah, disappointed week one, like week two. I haven't looked to see if that was matchup dependent or role at CBA, only because I'm not that interested in that pick and probably wasn't, except for about a one or two week little period in the pre-season when
00:18:55
Speaker
The group think sort of took over a little bit, but look, I like going, if you're going to trade out Gorn, I think it's only 70, 80K max to the highest one, but you've got good options cheaper than him, like a Marshall, if you haven't got it.
00:19:15
Speaker
All right, West Coast the following week after Sydney as well. I don't know. It's too nice match up. It is. It is. So yeah, you're going to get that sugar straight away. Nick Nat is missing this week too. So maybe a bit of a let off for Sean Darcy owners coming up against Callum Jamison or something.
00:19:32
Speaker
Yeah, hopefully he gets time in the rock if Long Bevo doesn't let us down. Alright, speaking on the steel side of things which does face a fair few coaches, although he's also a bit more unique than you'd expect from Jack Steele in previous years. I think his ownership was around the 10% or 11% prior to the injury.
00:19:52
Speaker
Just speaking about him, what sort of options can we look at for Steel? Could you be going up here or would you be searching for value at this time of the season? And also, I might get some thoughts on replacements for him because there's actually some pretty nice options within that team that we might be looking at for some value as well. But Hami, just first of all, what should Steel owners be doing in this situation?
00:20:13
Speaker
Well, they'll be trading. So he's a broken collarbone, isn't he? He's going to go and get a plate. I've actually had this myself. So he will miss four weeks. I mean, I can't really see him coming back any quicker than that. So it's definitely a trade, but it's just a matter of
00:20:31
Speaker
who you're going to go to and what you can do with the money. I mean, he's still worth a fair bit, isn't he? And he still put out a really good score for his owners on departure. So, you know, as far as injuries go, compare that to the Tom Stewart that we got last week where it was 14 and a price drop of $60,000. So look, there's plenty of options. It's probably a good opportunity for you to consider the structure of your team because of the dollar value that he is.
00:21:00
Speaker
Yeah, there's 969,000 just for those who don't want to check their up right now. Pretty tempting to go to lead. I mean, you still really, if you don't want to meddle with the mid prices too much, you're still going to take a really good keeper. But there's definitely other options around that price. I mean, if Josh Kelly comes back this week too, you know, save a bit of money going down to him.
00:21:24
Speaker
That was the one I was just about to bring up actually, Harvey. I think Josh Kelly might be a play there, but at that 969k range, there's quite a number of blokes who are probably like for like for Jack Still. The only other thing you'd be considering is what other spot fires you've got in your side. So if you've got a
00:21:41
Speaker
Let's say a Dom sheet who I'm dealing with at the moment and you're able to, let's say, go down to a setters, you've suddenly got another 250K in your bank and you can put up, put out a spot fire with a Dom sheet, a Finn Callaghan, a Jason Horn Francis, all of a sudden you've just got a bit more coin to work with and you can trade into a more known quantity than what we did after round one where we were sort of guessing.
00:22:07
Speaker
Yeah, it's a few interesting options for steel owners. All right, let's move on to our next hot topic and a man who is flaming hot right now.
Must-Have Players and Trade Considerations
00:22:14
Speaker
We mentioned him earlier, Will Setterfield. Is this guy someone that we have to have in our teams? He's gone back-to-back monster scores 130 this round after getting 122 in round one. He has had two soft matchups, it must be said, Hawthorne and then the Suns, but this guy is seeing
00:22:33
Speaker
Monster center bounce usage. I think it was up to about the 90% center bounces this round So that is a pure inside midfielder and this guy's still only priced at seven hundred and seventeen thousand 25 years old was a fantasy start as a junior finally getting his opportunity a man who is super high on him in this preseason But didn't pick him in his side state Oh thoughts on will set a field he's killing it and
00:23:00
Speaker
It's sad to say, but I tipped this and didn't back it in. Well, I will say, I backed it in every format, except for AFL fantasy, the one I care most about, which is just ridiculous. But anyway, look, he is playing great footy. You're right, he's got a couple of easy matchups, but how much does that impact in total score is the question. I think we're going to find out with a tougher matchup against St Kilda this week.
00:23:29
Speaker
Although he's playing well, I don't expect him to get the tag. I think Zach Merritt is still the main man to tag if that's the way Ross the boss goes. But yes, I think this is the week where I do those sideways or fix up because I'll fix the rookies. So Setters is high in my plans.
00:23:55
Speaker
Just to ask, maybe you harm me on this one, with Setterfield, I know obviously very dependent on team structure, et cetera, if you have like a Jack Steele as well, potentially an option there for you to go to, but is Will Setterfield the guy that you'd look to upgrade from a domshade who you might consider to be a failure? And we'll go through some of the players that we think you may want to hold stick fat with or trade a bit later, but
00:24:21
Speaker
Is that the sort of trade that you'd be looking at when you're trying to consider a whip setterfield? I think it's a nice upgrade. So yes, I would. I mean, setterfield is priced at 80. Do we think he's going to go more than 80 from here on the rest of the season? And I think we'd have to say he will. So Dom Sheed has sort of been floating around the 70 mark. So probably not the upside that we thought of with him. So if you have the opportunity to jump ship
00:24:50
Speaker
I think it's probably worthwhile doing it. You're going up. So that's a nice opportunity there. But Dossi, I think you said that you brought him in last week. So I guess a bit of buzz Dossi there.
00:25:06
Speaker
One week ahead of the statesman. No, mate, two weeks. I actually started with him. I actually, for the reasons you said, as a West Coast fan, I think sometimes you're damned if you do, damned if you don't, as a fan of your team. But I looked at Dom Sheed in that first trial. I saw him wearing the white career savers, which was a game changer for me. I was like, no, mate, that's what...
00:25:26
Speaker
I wear the career savers and my career is on the downward trend since I popped them on. So, um, look, I saw that I saw him moving pretty slow contest to contest and I saw we'll set a field, you know, 20 K extra or something at the start. And I'm like, well, I think he's got a role. I just had a bit more confidence. So, um, backed in myself actually, it was, you know, probably buzz like the stono there, but yeah, it looked, um,
00:25:50
Speaker
I guess we might just touch on Dom Sheep, perhaps, because I'm looking at him as a person that I've started with and I'm not blown away by. But he's still put up two scores above what he's priced at. So, I mean, he's not my biggest priority to trade at. But if I have a luxury trade,
00:26:11
Speaker
and 100,000. I wouldn't have any hesitation in going from sheet to set afield. I just think that West Coast, I mean I know they've got to win but I think they're going to battle a bit throughout the course of the season and I don't think they're going to put up a heap of ceiling scores over the journey.
00:26:30
Speaker
It's easy to forget that Dom Schied, which we were kind of hoping would bounce back, was putting up those numbers four years ago in a pretty competitive West Coast side, whereas in present day it's totally different. I don't think you can rely on Dom Schied to consistently win the contested bowl, not at this stage of the season as well. He's missed a lot of football as well, so just watching him I can see that perhaps he might go the way of like a Tom Phillips, where he just kind of
00:26:59
Speaker
edges that average score, but never actually really improves on it. So I think he's one that we got to jump off. Now from the hottest of hot to the coldest of cold, a man who's ice cold, if you will, Jason Horn Francis, highly owned player.
Player Performance Analysis
00:27:17
Speaker
A lot of coaches traded him in last week, gave away a bunch of free kicks. I saw a bit of footage out there of the Jason Horn Francis of old where he just gives up on a chase.
00:27:27
Speaker
mid-chase, you know, just gives up on the tackle. He scored a 42 from 80% time on ground six for his against. Look, Stado for coaches that jumped on. Look, I've got to eat that, eat that pie. I think that you're the humble pie that you served me up last week saying he's an impact player. Won't, won't be a fantasy scorer necessarily week to week. He's gone 90 week one, 42 week two. And to coaches, well, I mean,
00:27:53
Speaker
stick fat. We haven't got to our stick back segment segment, but what do what do coaches do with Horned Francis here? Look, I think the key here and Selby talks about it quite regularly is you stop up your stuff up a mid price. You get off as soon as possible. So I had one going into round one being Tommy Powell. I was debating. I was really worried about the forward line and was incorrect with that.
00:28:22
Speaker
So as soon as I saw that his scoring power is not going to be above or too much above a rookie, then it was quite simple. You go down to a rookie and upgrade somewhere else. So putting that into perspective, Jason Horn, Francis, I think he's just above 500k, correct me if I'm wrong.
00:28:44
Speaker
but down to a rookie you're making close to 300k and 300k add on to Dom's shade. What does that give you? It gives you a superstar.
00:28:55
Speaker
you're looking at 900k plus there so you know you're Josh Kelly's of the world Christian Petrarchus yeah and so I'd rather have a rookie making cash and a premium giving you pretty solid scores and up and down like a yo-yo and we talked about it last week
00:29:18
Speaker
We think he's a pretty good super coach player, but I don't think his AFL fantasy yet. Not saying he won't get there because he'll get the balance right at some stage. If we remember Patrick Dangerfield, I'm not saying he's equal to or better, but he was a classic example where it took to his fifth or sixth season for him to actually be a genuine AFL fantasy star.
00:29:43
Speaker
It's easy to forget this kid's in his second season. So the scores are always going to be up and down.
00:29:50
Speaker
All right. And to finish off our last hot topic for the week, the Laird bounce back, um, rewarding coaches who held, but I just want to also sort of flag, you know, is this, is this similar reward that we'll be seeing from Josh Dunkley, or is there any concerns here? So obviously the Laird owners that traded would be probably filthy with themselves, although they might've done some great stuff with that coin that he had.
00:30:14
Speaker
You can't sort of disparage that trade without knowing what was on the other end. But with Josh Dunkley, we're just saying, not those ceiling scores. Couple hard games though. I mean, give the guy a break. You played Port Adelaide in Melbourne. So, I don't know. I wouldn't be trading this round if you're really thinking about that.
00:30:36
Speaker
No, I'm just saying, are we going to get those ceiling scores though? We will, mate. If you watch the game on Friday night, he was playing full defensive mid and he actually played a fantastic game for the Brisbane Lions. So it's not a form thing. He's in the CBA mix. He led the CBAs, as I said, and just wait for Josh Junckley to come good. He hasn't been disappointing yet, in my opinion. I think this is just a bloke trying to gel with his new team. And I'm foreseeing a 105, 110 plus Josh Junckley to
00:31:05
Speaker
To finish the season, obviously we've got 22 rounds to do that, so... And he played that defensive mid at the Bulldogs too. So, I mean, it's not as if this is an unusual role for him. He can still score doing it, so I wouldn't be sort of put off by that. Beautiful. Stado, what's wrong, mate? What's happened? Why? Why do I look like I'm sad? You put your hands up before. I thought this was non-podcast related. No, not at all.
00:31:35
Speaker
Oh sorry I look sad and won't put my hands up again, ever. Good. I thought we'd lost the audio for the 50th time in this podcast. Alright then Steno, that's good. We'll leave it rolling and get into a new segment. Do you believe in?
00:32:07
Speaker
Do you believe in these players? I'm going to throw it around the room here and go with some players that have caught our eye and might be those bargain price players that we're looking to bring into our side. Louie, do you believe in Will Day?
00:32:22
Speaker
Firstly mate, I think this, um, segment name needs some work shopping, but, uh, wait till you hear the segment, uh, the intro there. I reckon a bit of sure is going to be, um, going in there. So, okay. All right. I'll trust you, mate. Will day. Um,
00:32:37
Speaker
Look, I'm becoming a believer. I've been pretty much on the opposite side of the fence. The CBA's were up this week. He looks pretty good in there. I'm beginning to believe in him. This is probably one of the last weeks you can jump on him. Stado? Yeah, yeah, I believe in him. And that's through watching the whole game against a tough matchup being Sidney Swans. He looked fantastic.
00:33:06
Speaker
Yep, speaking about Walpole's decrease in Cenobounce usage as well, Will Day increased his and although we do expect quite a bit of movement on Sam Mitchell's magnets this year, that was a positive sign to see that and I think, to your point though, Stado, he's clean inside and out so even if he does move to a half back line, which is probably his other position, he's still going to be able to get those marks and easy kicks back there as well.
00:33:30
Speaker
It's the perfect game we always talk about. If you can win the ball inside and actually spread to get the ball outside, that's the perfect fantasy player.
00:33:41
Speaker
Yeah, he's definitely high on our target list this week, I think, by the sounds of things. Hami, do you believe in the Saints? So I've got a few names here. There's one probably in particular that rises above the rest. So thanks to the listeners, we tweeted out a request for some names and a lot of these are stemming from that as well. All the names coming from our segments are coming from those. So you can follow us at Pod Pod AFL and get your suggestions in.
00:34:06
Speaker
At the start of the week, we usually put that tweet out on a Monday. For the Saints though, Hami, let's talk about them individually. I might throw around the room for the others, but Liam Stocker, first of all, a couple of very nice scores to start the season with an 80 and then a 98 to back it up.
00:34:22
Speaker
Well, yes, I think I do. And apologies for the listener who threw a question in last week and I sort of gave it a bit of a knock because the way he put up the score on the weekend is pretty impressive. And to the point where I'm looking at his price thinking is a trade in target and he's just over 510,000 from memory. And yeah, maybe an option for us.
00:34:48
Speaker
Yeah, another Saint. I just wanted to throw a couple because there's just a lot of, I guess, potentially overperforming Saints in the new Ross-Lion system. And obviously, we do have Jack Steele missing from this side for a number of weeks now. But could Hunter Clark, who saw a little bit of a bump in his center bounce usage, be an option for us, Louis, as well as a defensive option? Or with that, would you prefer a stocker?
00:35:11
Speaker
I'd prefer a stocker at the price range but I think Hunter Clark is going to be one to watch because obviously Jack Steele has that line share of the CBAs at the Saints and there's not a lot of depth there at the Saints at the moment, they're all injured so I'd be keeping a close eye on Hunter Clark to get a bit more opportunity in there as well as some of the other sort of fringe CBA Saints like you might see a Beitel, a Sebras, a Windy
00:35:38
Speaker
Marcus Windhager in there as well, so Saints will be an interesting team this year for us I think. And by the way, they are smashing the fantasy points with 1800 plus in both of their games.
Saints Players and Other Potential Picks
00:35:51
Speaker
Yeah, and from a man that used to coach Nick Riewoldt that now is coaching Nick Riewoldt 2.0, Ross Lyon, Mason Wood, is he an option for a state-o for a man that seemingly just pumps out ton after ton, week after week? Could he be beyond a draft player averaging 92 in his last five last year and looks to have taken a step up again? Yeah, just... Do you believe in Mason Wood? No. No, I don't. I just wouldn't go there.
00:36:19
Speaker
It's just simple as that and look, you can have these stands be proven wrong and I'll be happy to accept if I'm wrong. All right, let's go through a bit quicker in these ones. Hami, do you believe in Matt Rau? No. No, only dickheads would bring in Matt Rau.
00:36:41
Speaker
Let's talk about this seriously though. I looked at the data from the last like five, six, 10 years, I think it was. There was only one player. There's only one player that averaged 190. Let's go quick, guys. Hooked on. I believe in the 95, mate. I reckon you'll get what you got served up last week, every week. Can I just finish that start? It was a good one.
00:37:01
Speaker
90 plus from every player that averaged over in the top 10 for contested possessions in the last like 10 years. It's a big one ladies. 75 was around last year. All right. They got me on the hook. Next player. Do you believe in Luke Ryan, Louie with his monstrous start to the season?
00:37:18
Speaker
No, I don't. Luke Ryan, someone that we've seen monstrous ceiling from in the past, when it's his game, it's his game, when he can easily go 130 plus. I'm not buying it. He'll come back to earth soon. Wouldn't it be nice just to have those two scores and then sell him out for someone else? But yeah, you just wouldn't. He didn't even play a practice game.
00:37:47
Speaker
Stado, do you believe in Jack Bowes? 77 points, but he is a bit cheaper, 611k. And now let me read out the matchups before you decide. In his next three, he's got Gold Coast, Hawthorne, the Eagles, followed by a tough one in Sydney, then Essendon and Adelaide in his next five. Do you believe in Jack Bowes? No.
00:38:11
Speaker
Okay, simple answer from the great man. And maybe the segment does need some work. Matt Flynn, do you believe in him, Tommy? Couldn't have got any easier for Flynn here, could it? On the weekends, but no, I really don't. And Proust is a couple of weeks away, isn't he? GWS too. I don't know what to say about them.
00:38:38
Speaker
Do you believe in Jack Zebel, Louis? He's a name that has come across many coaches trade plans given he's just incredible role in half back. We've seen Shezel, a rookie average 120. Obviously a fair bit more skill on that player there, but even Aiden Kaur managed to ton up in this new sharing system in the back line that Clarko is deploying. And we've seen him do it before as well.
00:39:00
Speaker
I believe in it mate, he's a mature experienced player who I think I went over some of his scores last week and he's put up a lot of 90 averages in the past in a whole lot poorer roles so I think this can continue but as I also said last week just got to flag some of the returns I think.
00:39:19
Speaker
Aaron Hall went absolutely nuts in the VFL. So he might be one to flag up there. But I do think that he's going to put up a decent enough average that at his price right now is someone that you can ride up until the buyers. And don't captain. Quiz pause there for a second. So like after each round, I've kind of been writing a few names down to people I'm keen on. Z-Bull, well, Will Day was one. Z-Bull is another. Does anybody own him?
00:39:51
Speaker
Currently I'm doing my draft plans. And this is the thing, I was kind of keen on him last week, couldn't get him in. I'm keen on him again this week and I still don't know whether I'll get him in, but he's not really doing anything wrong for us, is he? No, he's not. So I'm currently going Macrae and Callahan to Setterfield and Zebook.
00:40:18
Speaker
Yeah, I like it. Just part of me thinks, you know, what happens when the rules are down. I don't think anybody thought that they'd go 2-0 to start the season. I'm not quite sold on them yet. They've done a fantastic job to start the year, but I just wonder what happens when
00:40:36
Speaker
the ruse go down by a few goals, whether that maybe increases his score or goes the other way. Yeah, that's it. And that's the thing with Shaezel as well. I didn't actually see the numbers on the weekends. I don't know if this was the same, but Zebel was the main kick-in guy still. So he's still getting, he's getting the chip mark that they are all getting back there, but he's automatically getting, you know, five plus kicks just from kick-ins. I'll double check that he was the main man again this week for the kick-ins. I'll have a look.
00:41:05
Speaker
Yeah. And no, seven, seven for him and only two for McDonald, Shesil and Bergman with one. So seven kick ins and plus he's getting involved in all that stuff. So if they go down by more, probably good things was able. But I'll just say to this one, since he's in his trade plans, um, if Aaron Hall's named this week, does that change? Yeah. Will days in instead. Rookie to will die. No, I still have to go Callaghan. I need to avoid that shoulder.
00:41:33
Speaker
Because he's got to be a legitimate concern, obviously takes kick ins, is one of their main distributors in the past. I'm not sure what Alistair Clarkson's got planned for him, but if he's named Zebel's not coming in.
00:41:47
Speaker
No, no. In fact, you might even go the other way with a hole after seeing a week. No, just this final player. Sorry. Sorry. Go ahead. I said no. I don't want to go all again. It's a nervous.
00:42:05
Speaker
It's great when he's scoring, not so much by the Monday to Friday. One last request, listener request was Locky Weller on his return game at 88, 77% time on ground. Looked really good, good on him for coming back, but I can answer that one and I know what the guys will say. He's not a classic option. He's too up and down to be an option for me. Are you guys nodding in agreement for that one?
00:42:28
Speaker
Yep. Okay, cool. Let's get onto our next segment and we'll go pretty quickly through this one. We've alluded to it a few times. It is sticking fat.
00:42:43
Speaker
Sticking fat guys, we've talked about it. This is the time of the season where we look to either stick with our underperforming premiums or mid prices or whatever, or we dump them and shred that fat. Let's go through a few names. A guy we've already mentioned here. This is a tough
Stick or Trade Debates
00:43:00
Speaker
one. Jack McRae. Do we stick fat? Who do I go to for this one? Louie, you're a non owner here. Stick fat with Jack McRae.
00:43:08
Speaker
Yeah I think you do. Just because we see Uber premiums and premiums always put up a poor score at some point during the year and if 73 can be the floor that Jack McRae has then it's happy days. We know that there's a lot of evidence to suggest that he can go 105 plus and I think like I said at the top of the show the dogs are going to have to try something different.
00:43:29
Speaker
clearly didn't work that forward roll last week so I'd be sticking fat with a Jack McRae and worst case scenario he averages what 100 and you take him up to the buys it's not a massive loss when you're paying 104 I think it's just not the pick that you wanted but you got to stick fat with Jack McRae.
00:43:48
Speaker
Andy McGraw, Stado, owners stick fat. He's actually got incredibly high ownership. I think it was because that late Elliott Yeo injury, 22% owned for Andy McGraw, given his pre-season performance. So 721K. What I will preface this by saying, Stado, he's averaging 88, which isn't terrible at the moment, but he's got the Saints this week. So do we stick fat for at least a week on owners there? 100%.
00:44:14
Speaker
Now I will say I understand well a little bit disgruntled because his score at halftime was just sensational and he really slowed down the second half on the weekend. But look, he's playing well. He's got the role. He's not costing you money. I think that's the clear thing. And he's putting decent points on the board and he's got a great matchup coming up. And I actually have a look at his following one. Then he's got Gold Coast, which is a good matchup.
00:44:43
Speaker
And then he's got Collingwood which isn't too bad for defenders. Obviously the Anzac Day clash. So I'll be holding him to at least round five at this stage unless it goes pear shaped.
00:44:58
Speaker
Yep. Unbelievable ownership numbers though. Haami sticking fat with Tanner Bruin. 43 points last round, 54 average, but also has that same juicy schedule that I mentioned with Jack Bose with the Suns, Hawks and Eagles in his next three.
00:45:15
Speaker
dump him. I mean, Kyle Chandler's going to outscore him, then there's no point in having him in your side. Get rid of him and use that money elsewhere. So he's averaging in the 50s, Chandler's averaging in the 80s and Chandler's cheaper.
00:45:30
Speaker
But for owners that have presumably already have Chandler by this stage, I mean, is a, you know, what do you do there? Well, she's a little Chandler on field. I mean, how many rookies you got on field in your forward line? Wouldn't be more than two. So if you've got tenor brewing in your team, you got space for the other rookies. There's a heap of them in the forward line.
00:45:50
Speaker
Not too much to go up towards Ebel or something as well if you do have that space. Okay, the next player. Oh, geez, this has been a rough start and a guy that I mean, I would have probably picked to take a big step up this year, but the new system, the Giants, perhaps not suiting him as well. Isaac coming. 68.5 average from his two games in pretty easy match-ups to start with Adelaide and West Coast as well. Louis sticking fat with Isaac coming.
00:46:18
Speaker
Oh, this this is a really hard one to get a read on, Dossi. I sort of lean towards sticking fat with him just because he's put up a good sort of 18 months, 24 months of football. He's getting used to a new system. And at his price point now, 749 K, unless you've got a bit of money in the bank, it's a bit of an awkward price range where there might actually be more upside and just holding him and hoping he goes back up.
00:46:48
Speaker
rather than offloading him, but if you had no other issues in your team, then he might be one to look to move on. Alright, a couple more guys. He's a sort of buyer, like Jay McCray and I was at coming, there's a guys that you picked as keepers, so I mean, I think you got to stick with them a bit longer than two weeks.
00:47:05
Speaker
You've already got to give them a look. I mean, there's got to be high priorities in your rookie swaps, in your mid prices, which you'd be looking to trade out before you touch to premiums. And this is probably why I'm looking at keeping Jack McRae. So I'm working the other way. I don't, other than Callahan's shoulder, I don't have any problems. And the reason why I would suggest you offset someone like that is if the role has changed.
00:47:34
Speaker
Now, the good thing is that he played so much forward time and the team didn't have success. So maybe there's the potential that he goes back. But what he was talking about after that loss is we have to change things up. We have to be inventive. So in other words, Caleb Daniels probably in the ruck. Ed Richards is probably an inside mid. That's being inventive.
00:48:02
Speaker
So that worries me. That worries me is where's that heading? Because McRae started the game in the midfield. It wasn't working out. They shifted him out. That's a worry to me. Roll change. And we know what the wing was like last year. Half forward's even worse for him.
00:48:28
Speaker
Okay. I'm going to go through just some higher owned players now, and then we'll just whiz through some, some point of difference options that listeners have requested in this sticking fat. But, um, look, Sean Darcy, I think with the West coast matchup, I'll just say now you got to stick fat for at least another week. Um, if he does get that, you know, prime rock slot against the West coast, then he could go massive, but, um, definitely a concern given what happened with Luke Jackson, hopefully they, um, long Bevo learns from his mistakes and starts playing Darcy as that pure rock.
00:48:58
Speaker
Finn Callahan, you've just mentioned Stado not keen on giving him another week, given that shoulder concern. No, he's outside. But when you're pulling out of tackles and you're sort of avoiding contact, that's not a good sign. Understand, I reckon he would have been subbed out early in the third if they hadn't had the other incident. So it was about, yeah, let's keep in this game. Let's keep trying to win it.
00:49:27
Speaker
At the end of the day, I know what these shoulders are like. They're bloody shocking, they're irritating and they need a long-term resolve. If you ever have one, harm it.
00:49:39
Speaker
What have he's named on field for you? Like, you know, coming into the team selection, he's named on field. They said, yep, he's good to go. He's still looking at trading him. I mean, he's still making money for us. He's still got a lot of upside. Yeah, I can. In my situation, half of his score state I was in that last quarter when he was buggered too. He's done that three times. He's done that three times. So what if he puts it together?
00:50:05
Speaker
Yeah, I'm not interested to take the risk. So one wrong hit, one incorrect, one poor landing and all of a sudden he's done. So my current situation because of the power down to Callahan, I just held a trade all weekend just to see
00:50:21
Speaker
whether the golden rumours was true. So if he ended up being out, I was ready to jump on cogs, you know, that protection, I'm in a really good spot. So I've got 300k sitting in the bank. So I can just go purely and simply the one trade. I can go the one trade and go Callahan straight to Setterfield, keep McRae sitting there, I've got a stronger midfield. You know, you don't get interest on that, mate.
00:50:49
Speaker
I've asked warning you are correct Buddy boomers and they're negative gearing All right Dom shade I think we answered this earlier these guys not sticking fat harm. Is that correct? Yeah, probably looking to trade if I can he's a file me needs to go That's the golden rule
00:51:13
Speaker
Stick fat or shred thin on these guys. Just three pods here. Sam Barry, Louie. No off him. Noah Anderson stayed. Oh, what's happened? Is it the change in the game plan? So he's not getting the spread as much.
00:51:28
Speaker
Well, I think they've just nominated, I feel like now, yeah, with this new game plan, these guys are like spreading harder from the contest and you, and you're nominating a guy like Matt Rau to be that pure contested and trying to get more spread. I don't know, but they said he's also dropped seven kegs from his frame in the off season on the broadcast. I didn't think you.
00:51:48
Speaker
No, that's what I thought. That's what they said unless they got it wrong. But I was like, wow, that's a lot of kegs to shed for her. So perhaps it is to try and get him more on that outside. He looked all right, though. I don't know if it's just a young player who's just had a poor start to the season. Yeah, because they tend to lean that way. What did you average, 95 last year?
00:52:10
Speaker
And look, it's, it's might just be tougher in a season in a year when Maddie Rouse taking that. There you go. So what are we saying? Stick fat. No, I'm off.
00:52:26
Speaker
It's tough, tough stuff. What's he priced at? I'll have to get it up. Hang on. He'd be owned by Buggerall, but we're just doing it for the season. Put it this way, does he? He is not doing what you wanted to where you started with him. He has not come out hitting one-teens, so he is not the pick that you thought he was. You should probably be looking to get off. OK. And go to Constable. I was wrong, Doss. He was a very good game. Thank you. I thought he was out, round two.
00:52:56
Speaker
I told you, don't worry about his job security. That's what I'm like. They're not going to train up a bloke as a half back to then, you know, to have these guys come back and him to just sit out. Like, why would you bother training up a bloke for two weeks of footy? All right. Last one. Tommy Cole guys. Sticking fat.
00:53:17
Speaker
Oh wow, the cursing, the cursing. Just for the listeners, I'll tell a little story. So, Dossie and I were against each other in the fantasy content cup and like I was smashing him, go to bed Saturday night, you know, just dreaming of wonderful things because, you know, Stado is going to flog Dossie by
Humorous Anecdotes and Fossils 5 Highlights
00:53:39
Speaker
250 points was the potential margin there. And it obviously was in favour because he was keeping Josh Kelly. So you keep him one of your premiums out of the play, taking a rookie score, all that type of stuff.
00:53:54
Speaker
All things going well, you know, my rankings just shooting up, looking brilliant. And then Sunday come along and it just got worse for Stato. It was like he was an old man. I'm not suggesting that I am, but it looked like Stato was an old man. It was depressing. It went downhill really quick. And then we finally get to the start of the last game. And it was effectively Callahan V. Cole.
00:54:24
Speaker
Now, Callahan takes a whack in the shoulder, and we're halfway through the second quarter, and he hasn't added on a score since he got whacked, even though he did go back out in the ground for a little period. And Tommy Cole, he just couldn't stop touching the footy-dussy. Early second quarter, he gets up with 29 points. Looks like he's in line for another 70.
00:54:52
Speaker
And then all of a sudden, what happened? He added another three, six points for the game. That was it. Just stopped on 32 for probably 45 minutes as Callahan just went on fire.
00:55:04
Speaker
So let me get this right. I can't say one stat about Matt Rau for 10 seconds, but you're allowed 10 minutes to tell you a bloody story of victory. Over Dospo. It was Dumbo Dospo. It was a struggle. I was actually, I've never said so many swear words in front of my poor mum watching the game alongside her for a change. Yeah, sorry, mum, about that one. If you see bombs, Tommy C bombs dropped, if you will. I will say you went for an hour long
00:55:31
Speaker
You went for an hour-long victory lap on rail. Yeah, and I'll continue to do that in the future weeks. Let's finish off the show with the Fossils 5.
00:55:47
Speaker
Yeah, well, I'm going to go through really quick because we've gone well over time here. So Fossils 5, number one, is will set a field, 126 average. Yes, he's starting to get a little bit pricey, but well, well below his price stat.
00:56:06
Speaker
that the end of the day i think he'll average the 95 to 100 and i think he's priced at i think it's the 70 sorry it is the 85 mark so 717 will day is second for me to bolster your defense we don't like the rookies on field except for jimby uh so 603k he looks real uh two weeks of data now jack siebel has the role and uh
00:56:35
Speaker
We like his scoring as it was in 2021, so Will Day and Jack Siebel have been on the list for two weeks on the trot. Rory Laird, $1 million. So have you got Jack Steele?
00:56:50
Speaker
There's a reason why you had a captain anchor in your team. So you got one there, 68k cheaper than what he started. So he'd be able to pick up Rory Ladd for the flat million dollars. I think it's only cost him 30k to do Dossy around that mark. And then Liam Stocker really impressed with his two games, 512k.
00:57:14
Speaker
There is the Fossils 5 for the week to round out the podcast. Another awesome episode, guys. Thanks to the Pod Squad. Hami, Louis, and Stado for joining. Your boy, Dossie, here. All the best to Holmesy on his rise back to the top, wishing him well. And yeah, shout out to our boy, Holmesy. Give him some love on the Twitters. I think he needs it at the moment. But he'll be back up hat-chasing in no time. We shall see you next week.