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A Tribute To Penny + Survivor Series 1995 Watchalong
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It's a special episode of the Chick Foley Show,
The Phelps Pham bids farewell to one of the Hounds Of Justice before we shift into a watchalong of Survivor Series 1995.
Happy Thanksgiving Foley Fam
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Introduction & Special Episode Announcement
00:00:01
Speaker
Hey there, Foley fam. Heo Husband here, flying solo for the intro to the podcast this week. We're going to be bringing you guys a special episode of the Chick Foley Show. Earlier this week, myself, Sheena, Marco, and our buddy Jordan got together to record a Survivor Series 95 watch-along that we had originally intended to be a Patreon-exclusive episode, but
00:00:29
Speaker
due to some reasons I'm going to get into here in a minute. We're going to go ahead and release it totally free right here on the regular feed. So this will give you guys a chance to get hyped up for Survivor Series and also get a free sample of all the amazing content that's available at chickfolishow.com in case you guys want to subscribe.
Personal Loss: Remembering Penny
00:00:50
Speaker
So why are we not doing the regular Chick-Foli show this week? Yesterday, it's Friday night as I'm recording this. So yesterday, which was Thursday morning,
00:01:00
Speaker
Myself and Sheena suffered just a devastating loss in our family our dog Penny Ten years old she passed away early in the morning around around about 8 a.m. We knew she'd been sick for a few weeks, but it really looked like she was starting to turn the corner and we just thought she was gonna kick out of it, you know, we just
00:01:28
Speaker
couldn't imagine saying goodbye to Penny this soon. We have two dogs. We have our other dog, Presley. She's 16, so not that we wouldn't be totally heartbroken if Presley passed away, but just kind of the natural order of things. We just kind of always expected that eventually Presley would pass on and then Penny would be our old dog for a while, but it did work out that way.
00:01:56
Speaker
We said goodbye to Penny. Obviously, we're completely devastated. Sheena more than anybody. My job requires me to travel overseas for extended periods of time. And there were several times where for months on end, it was just Sheena and the dogs. We had Presley for 10 years and Penny for six years before Brett the Babyface came along. So they really were like our kids. They were everything to us. And they still are.
00:02:27
Speaker
But we had to say goodbye to Penny, and we're kind of just really like in the thick of the grieving process. So it just didn't really seem fit to record the regular show this week. So we want to give you guys a little treat. You guys know these dogs, especially if you've been listening to the podcast for any amount of time. Sheena affectionately refers to them as the hounds of justice, because they would sometimes come in with interruptions at the most inopportune times. But it usually made for some laughs.
00:02:57
Speaker
Obviously, if you guys follow Sheena's, her regular personal Instagram, the pups are always all over it. From me and Sheena, we definitely want to say thank you for all the gigantic outpouring of support from the premium Foley fan members in the Facebook group. Jeff, Scott, and Celeste from the Fully Poseable podcast reached out. The Turnbuckle Tavern guys, Extra Cooler, all the Pod Foundation members. It's really been heartwarming just seeing all the love and support for our family.
00:03:27
Speaker
because Penny really was she really was special to us and and she's going to be missed, you know. She was just a great dog and there's really nothing that that could replace her. So I don't know whether it's going to be next week, the week after or whenever it is that we get back to recording the regular show. But from myself, Sheena and Marco, we want to wish all the Foley fam listeners out there a happy Thanksgiving.
Survivor Series 1995 Watch-Along Begins
00:03:57
Speaker
Uh, we hope you guys enjoy the survivor series, uh, episode that we are going to bring you guys this week. And, um, yeah, again, just, just thanks for all, all the love and support. Um, if anybody, uh, you know, if anybody likes to partake in the beverages, I'm about to pop a cold one.
00:04:18
Speaker
Take a drink in Penny's honor. And this is still a wrestling podcast. So I thought kind of the most appropriate way that we could say goodbye to Penny would be to give her the Tim Bell salute. So let's all share a toast. And we'll kick off the survivor series episode right after this. Thanks again, guys.
00:05:22
Speaker
One man is the most honored athlete in Federation history. The excellence of execution is going to bring you down. The other, the leader of the new generation. We're going to find out who's the best. Their previous encounters were marred by injustice. Look, it's like the carnage. It's like a back alley gang fight. But this time, the laws have changed.
00:05:42
Speaker
The match can only terminate in a pinfall or submission. The champion. I'm gonna take care of you once and for all. The challenger. Diesel. The truck stops here. The title. Here when your reign's coming to an end. The Survivor Series. November 19th. Live on pay-per-view. I don't like your odds.
00:06:03
Speaker
What an intro. If you're not hyped up for this podcast, I don't know what's wrong with you. You may want to check your pulse. We're back for another episode. Patreon exclusive, The Chick Foley Show. We're doing a Survivor Series 1995 watch along. We're going to watch the main event. You guys just heard the hype package for it. Bret Hart taking on the world champion Diesel. And we're also going to watch the one of a kind wildcard match that took place right before the main event. But before we get into that, let me introduce the stars of the show. Sheena, how are you doing?
00:06:31
Speaker
Doing good. I'm getting pumped to kick off some Survivor Series viewership because clearly modern day WWE, they've given up on Survivor Series. They just kind of just cashed it in, announced who was going to be in the Survivor Series teams on social media. So let's, let's take it back to a better time. Now, Sheena coming in hot on Survivor Series. Uh, Marco, what's up, man? How you doing?
00:06:53
Speaker
I'm doing swell. I was, I was all excited until Sheena brought her negative energy to, uh, to this, uh, to this episode, but we'll see, we'll see how it goes from here. I thought, I thought it was good. I was shooting on the current product, not what we're about to watch. You know, we're about to watch some, some enjoyable wrestling, but, uh, you know, you guys are so sensitive. Speaking of sensitive, we got the man in the Midwest, the Fig God himself. It would not be a Patreon episode without Jordan Wells. Jordan, what's up, man?
00:07:23
Speaker
And still coming down off the high of last night. Um, as you guys know, I went to full gear last night and fuck man, a long weekend. So wrap it up with some, some survivor series. Thank God it's not current product survivor series. Cause I'd probably fucking fall asleep. How long is, uh, how long is that drive from Minneapolis to Omaha? That's about five and a half hours. It's not too bad. That's not bad. That's not too bad. Did you guys stay all night in Minneapolis last night or just drive back right after the show?
00:07:49
Speaker
Well, I thought I drove back last night. I probably put us in a ditch because I was hammered and it was snowing It's probably a good idea that I yeah, it is Minnesota and it's really close to Canada It snows there all year. I mean, it's kind of a novel idea. I know but But yeah, you know we stayed the night so we came back this morning did some fake hunting in Minnesota and then came back and
00:08:12
Speaker
Anything on the pegs in Minnesota? Not a goddamn thing. And you would think it'd be stock considering that's where the target headquarters is. There was nothing. Interesting. I sort of rolled up to the headquarters and like, Hey, where's those Zodiacs at? So I can kept driving past target trucks. I'm like, Hey man, Zodiacs on there. It is November 14th, 2021. As we're recording this for anybody that, uh,
00:08:36
Speaker
that goes back and digs into the archives to find this one. So yeah, Jordan was at full gear 2021 last night for AEW. What's everybody drinking tonight? I'll start off. I got an import, you know, I really try to stay away from the imports, but this one caught my eye at a total line this past weekend. It's a Bitburger Pilsner. So just your standard traditional German Pilsner. This is the foods ball edition. So the cans marked up like a soccer ball.
00:09:02
Speaker
And yeah, it's kind of your, your basic pills and just stepped up a notch. So keeping it low key tonight. Jordan, what are you drinking?
Drinks & Podcast Atmosphere
00:09:08
Speaker
Man, I am drinking a straight up George Remus whiskey with two ice cubes. I needed that last night. It's called George Remus. George Remus. It's a bourbon. Got it. That's I'm just drinking it straight up. I need it after last night. Marco, what are you sipping on, man?
00:09:26
Speaker
Um, I made my own, uh, concoction. So, uh, you know, we know, uh, the rock is the Brahma bowl and, uh, he has his, uh, his tequila called Terra Mana. So I made a drink called the Mana bowl and it's the, it's Terra Mana tequila and, um, uh, Arizona mucho mango fruit juice cocktail. I just knew you were going to say Red Bull tequila and Red Bull. That's what I thought it was. Oh no, not even horrible. Yeah.
00:09:54
Speaker
That would be terrible. That sounds like a pretty tasty cocktail. What was that cocktail that guy ordered that time that you and I both just looked at each other and we were like. Oh, he got a Patron and Coke. Yeah. Yeah. Seth and I were like, we were sitting at this bar. We were at a nice bar. It was like an upscale like, like a, kind of like a luxury bar and stuff.
00:10:11
Speaker
in Fredericksburg, Virginia, and a guy, we were like at one of the tables off the bar and a dude walked up to the bar and ordered a Patron and Coke. Yeah, and Seth and I just both looked at each other and discussed. Is that a legal? I suppose it's possible. Maybe he got him separate. Maybe he got a Coke and a shot at Patron, but the way he ordered it definitely sounded like- Like how you order a cocktail. Yeah, you order like a rum and Coke. Yeah, it's like a Roman Coke, which- That's disgusting.
00:10:33
Speaker
I mean, even Patron and Sprite, I could almost fathom it because at least Sprite's like citrusy, but even that would be a reach, man. But yeah, Patron and Coke, they don't even mix. It had to taste like straight medicine. Yeah, so, so gross. And Sheena, tell us what you're drinking tonight.
00:10:49
Speaker
Um, I don't have a beverage in front of me, but I do have a massive pile of, uh, Halloween candy. Like I got a, some Skittles, some Haribo, some Starburst. So, uh, you know, I'm getting my, I'm getting my high on, um, another way. So I've been, I've been heckling Sheena. We have 10 different variety of beers in our fridge right now. And she couldn't be enticed to drink even one of them. I think she needs to go to the beer fridge and pick out a selection right now. Oh man. Or at least have a dough ball. Good God. So I wanted to do a drunken gingerbread man.
00:11:19
Speaker
but Seth drank all of our mixers. He drank all the cream soda. I don't drink soda by itself. I'm not a soda drinker, but Seth drank all the cream soda and he drank my Cokes. We even got the little like cocktail Cokes, the little minis so I could just mix my drinks up and then Seth
00:11:36
Speaker
Don't be fooled, guys. It was an hour and a half before the show and I offered to get Sheena anything she wanted to mix with her drinks. He did offer to get a DoorDash Coke, but Jesus Christ, I'm not trying to pay like $15 to get a Coke delivered to the house. You know what I mean? I can tell you've never done DoorDash before. It would not have been 15 bucks to get a Coke.
00:11:52
Speaker
You're correct. I have never done door-to-door. All right. So if you are watching along with us on Peacock, the time stamp you're going to navigate to is one hour, 26 minutes, and 18 seconds on the 1995 Survivor Series.
Wild Card Match Concept Discussion
00:12:06
Speaker
You should be seeing Todd Pettengill's face kind of starting to fade in to the stadium shot. Howard Fickel's in the ring, and they're about to announce the start of the wild card match. So Jordan, you all set? I'm ready. Marco, you all set?
00:12:22
Speaker
Ready guys, I'll say 321 play and then you hit whatever button you need to hit to start the show. Here we go. 321 play. Alright, so this is the wildcard match. Very cool.
00:12:40
Speaker
Yeah, this was something that they only did one time though and never brought it back. So clearly Vince McMahon or, you know, maybe, maybe others, but I'm assuming probably just Vince did not like the concept overall and they did away with it. This was just a random mix up between basically all the top faces and heels in the WWF at the time. And they just mixed it up just for the sake of mixing it up. There's really no rhyme or reason to it.
00:13:03
Speaker
We were complaining earlier about the Survivor Series teams just getting announced via social media. This was just on a random episode of Raw. They just announced the teams. There was no mechanic to who went on what team or whatever. They just randomly sorted it out and here we are.
00:13:21
Speaker
this first team here, you got old heart was already in the ring when they started it. We caught the tail end of Yoko's entrance. And now we got Dean Douglas, the franchise, Shane Douglas says ECW fans may know him. Uh, Jordan, you're a big Dean Douglas Mark back in the day. Uh, no, not really. I do like some Shane Douglas, but I wasn't really a huge fan of Shane Douglas and WWE. So
00:13:43
Speaker
same. So we had the three heels. The only face on this team is the bad guy. Razor Ramon looking like a million bucks. The Intercontinental champ at this time, the bad guy, the good, the, he's the only face on the, uh,
00:14:01
Speaker
coming out in the green gear. I still think, you know, I always like to bring it back to the figures when we do these episodes. I think Razor Ramon is probably the most underutilized legend in Mattel's line. I mean, we've literally had two elite Razor Ramones in ring gear in over 10 years of Mattel having the lines. Ridiculous. It is ridiculous. I mean, even this one, this one looks so good. Devess is dope. Yeah. The Defining Moments Razor Ramon, his first one, that was actually my second elite figure.
00:14:33
Speaker
Isn't that the one I got for you and brought it to you in Hawaii? No, no, no. You brought it to WrestleMania 31. Oh, that's right. That's right. But yeah, we got a Razor in his vignette gear. We come like Scarface. We got the pink, purple one in the defining moments. And then we got the blue one in the relaunch Legends line. And that is it for Elite Razor Ramon. So start cranking them out, guys. If you got to do some repeat releases in the Legends line, give us Razor. I'll buy any color they put out.
00:15:06
Speaker
I don't mind having the Scott Hall though. Scott Hall's pretty sick. Yeah. Scott Hall. There hasn't been a bad Scott Hall figure out either. There comes the bulldog in the main event pants. James Z. Cornett. So yeah. So the British bulldog, he's actually in a faction camp coordinate with Yoko Zuna and Owen Hart during this time. So they're split up on opposite sides. Kind of shows you where the money's at. Jim Cornett comes out with a bulldog instead of owning Yoko bulldog. We'll be fighting for the world championship at the next month's pay review.
00:15:37
Speaker
Jordan or Marco do you guys do you do even when you guys have memories of watching this event live back in the day? Go ahead Marco. I actually don't which is kind of funny. I remember the main event though. Definitely. I don't remember this match fully. This is not a repeat match and I would go back and watch over and over again. But it's a fun one, man. I watched it a couple years ago. I think it's aged well. This was actually this show was actually my 11th birthday party. You know, my birthday is always in November.
00:16:07
Speaker
And I remember it was really it was a big deal because you know paper views are on a Sundays and are on a Sunday and we had it was a school night, but I still got to have two of my friends over to To stay the night and so that was awesome. You know, we had a blast. That's how you know, that's how you know, your friends had cool parents. Oh, yeah I should I definitely should have watched us a match more because I was definitely a Sid Mark back in the day. I
00:16:31
Speaker
Yeah, Sid's the man. And I'm still, I'm so bad that they didn't, uh, copyright that as a, for the fans of, uh, Sid called, called them Sid marks instead of skid marks. So look how, um, damp Sid is
Ahmed Johnson's Wrestling Career
00:16:45
Speaker
already. I didn't want to use the, uh, the M word voice. Yeah. You're welcome.
00:16:54
Speaker
Yeah, we always used to order the big four paper views at my parents house and they said my friends over for all these ones. So I remember this one really well.
00:17:05
Speaker
It's a pretty bad ass of it. I mean, do you go back to starting from the first match where you had, uh, Marty Janetti's team went up against, uh, the body down his team. There's a good, there's a pretty bad ass women's match. This is where we had the debut of the undertaker with the Phantom of the opera mask as well. I just cleaned out. We have, uh, Mr. Ahmed Johnson walking down.
00:17:27
Speaker
Always looking like a million bucks. Yeah. I still think Ahmed Johnson never got his just do, man. I guess, I suppose it's because he got hurt so much, but this dude was just awesome back in the day. He was so over. I was, I was, I was big on him too. Can you big Ahmed fan? Yeah. I'm really enjoying the, uh, glittery body oil. Yeah. For sure. I mean, if, uh, if you can't be over rocking, you know,
00:17:56
Speaker
iridescent glitter all over your body. And I don't know what you should do. You got those packs to shine somehow. I like how this dude in the second row is flipping them off. Like if that, if I'm mad through a punch, it wouldn't cave that dude's face in. There's just so much oil. I just don't know how these guys ever picked one another up, you know, like when you just like slip through, like if you were getting ready to get tombstone to just like slide out. Yikes. That's what she said.
00:18:26
Speaker
Here we go. This is Sean Michaels, uh, first match back since forfeiting the intercontinental championship the month prior it in your house. Oh, that's dude. That's the version of Sean Michaels is the best. Cause you know, all the antics that are happening with this guy now you do anyway, but he's still the biggest baby face out in front of the fans. Yep. Yep.
00:18:48
Speaker
I think this actual look right here was one of the choices in the in the fan takeover poll for the next HPK Ultimate Edition. This is a solid look. Yeah, it is. Dude, it's fun going back and watching these Survivor Series, but it also kind of depresses you that they don't take this event seriously at all anymore.
00:19:08
Speaker
Yeah, it's one of the big ones in name only. I love this pay-per-view I always have, and this pay-per-view is the fifth of the big ones now. It's pretty sad. I don't even think, yeah, I feel like hell on the sale is almost more of a big deal than money in the bank, or than survivor shoots at this point. Yeah, the bank's definitely passed it up.
00:19:30
Speaker
It sucks, man. Cause this, this is so much fun to watch when we were kids. Like I just remember this was always, like you said, around your birthday, around Thanksgiving. And yeah, it was, it was always just, you knew that you were going to get a good show. I mean, get teams together that you'd never see again. I mean, it was just awesome. And the December paper views were, uh, even once they went to the monthly paper views, the December ones were usually kind of throwaways anyway. So this was like really your last big event for the year, uh, until the Royal Rumble came up in January. Yeah.
00:20:01
Speaker
How awkward was it for all of them just to circle around Shawn Michaels while he undresses in front of them? That must have been how. I'm sure that's the least offensive thing they saw back at, you know, that day. True. Can you imagine all the things that go on backstage? I'm sure they're just like, you know, not even fazed. So for team Shawn, you got Shawn and Ahmed as the baby faces and Bulldog and Sid as the heel, so.
00:20:30
Speaker
We had three faces, five heels in this match, and they are spread out across the two teams. Karate fighters was the presenting sponsor for this match. Do you guys have karate fighters? I still remember me and my brother used to brawl with those things. Yep. You try to stick your finger in between those little kicks they have going, smash your finger and shit. Yeah. And then I remember they were the figures if they popped them off the stands, they kind of scaled up and I actually had them in my fig head when there was NWO Japan.
00:21:00
Speaker
When that was the thing, those were like my two NWO ninjas in my FigFed.
00:21:07
Speaker
Sean Michael's taken a Fraser doesn't like, uh, Dean Douglas too much. If you haven't seen it, it was like shooting interviews. Uh, they weren't, they weren't, none of those guys are big fans of, uh, of good old Dean back in the day. The click headed out for all Shane screwed him up. You know, they helped, they hooked him up with the like 10 minute long intercontinental championship reign the month prior to this when Sean to him and then razor beat him right away.
00:21:43
Speaker
So the only guys in this match, and actually we have three guys out of this match, we have not gotten a lease of with Ahmed Owen and Dean Douglas. And it's five, if you want to expand it out to Mr. Fuji and James D Cornette on the outside. Jordan, if you could pick one of these guys to get a figure, who would it be? Ahmed Johnson, no question. Yeah. I don't even think it's debatable, honestly.
00:22:06
Speaker
Oh yeah, definitely. Yeah, especially now we got jazz where he's getting getting us. Oh, and yeah, I think Mattel would crush it with an omen. He's always had such toy to look with all the crazy pads and everything. Anyways, you gotta have a Fuji man. We'll get it. I think we'll get a Fuji eventually. He'll be one of the build the figures. I would, I would assume. Yeah, we need to though, man. We need, we need the devious one. And then we need, when he became like the sensei. Yeah. Skin, the cat Sean.
00:22:36
Speaker
This was Sean's look in series two of the Jax bone crunching action figures. Oh, the dreaded tennis racket.
00:22:51
Speaker
Owen and Sean would fight the very next night on Raw when they had the legendary angle where Owen put Sean on the shelf for a couple months with that big kick. Look at these shirts in the front row. We got the old lady rocking the bread all over print, over the top of a white dress shirt, and then we got the Sean all over print, just a couple of seats later. Yeah. Oh, she's got the collar popped out and everything. I love that look. I think I might rock that. She's got the white dress shirt underneath.
00:23:21
Speaker
It's a good look. It is a good look. Maybe I can rock one of my like, you know, witchy kimonos underneath an all over print shirt. Marco would love it. Yeah. I don't know how to hit me in representation in the front row. We were right in the main event tonight. We're like a turtleneck or a dickey under it. Perfect. Yeah. She almost has like a, like a pilgrim type of a,
00:23:46
Speaker
set up there with the pilgrim colors. It is Thanksgiving season though. See, there we go. Maybe they put her there for a reason.
Politics & Wrestling: A Unique Blend
00:23:54
Speaker
She's a plant. She had to take her hat off that hat with the buckle on the top. They made her remove it because the person behind couldn't see. Why does the dude next to her look terrified?
00:24:13
Speaker
Cuz he's sitting next to a pilgrim He's like eight feet away from Ahmed Johnson and Sid and the dog to Bulldog could be kind of unstable also with the fans He's trying to figure out how she's still alive hornets down there too. So true very unstable very unstable and he has a weapon so well Vader bomb from Dean Douglas and
00:24:36
Speaker
Do you can't help it? You can't help it. Like, look for me anyway. Just looking at Shawn Michaels and seeing legit like Adam Cole and the young bucks like they they're like almost like offsprings. Oh, yeah. For sure. To the team. It's crazy about it. Look at that. The freaking Saigon kick from freaking Ahmed, man. He's athletic as hell, man. Nice try to pick up Yoko. He bit off morning with that one.
00:25:04
Speaker
Yeah, he had body body slammed him on raw on his first ever appearance, but you can't, you can't body slam somebody unless it's like, you know, the closing moments of a match. That's, that's just a big rule. Somebody like Yoko Zuna anyways, Yoko decided he was going to pick up a few more LBS for the next time he met a Ahmed. Yeah. This is definitely the phase of Yoko Zuna's career where he looks like he's about 35 pounds heavier every time you see him. Yeah.
00:25:30
Speaker
That's a lot of fabric on those pants. I wonder what the thread count is. I love Yoko and it's true. It's all after seeing that documentary, like seeing stuff like this, it's even more like a sad kind of depressing, you know, you're like, cause you just knew like everything was kind of going downhill from here, you know? Yeah.
00:25:57
Speaker
I'm going to wrestle with the hoop earring and I would be very nervous to be in a pro wrestling match with a hoop earring again. Thank you. Think if you were a Jeff Hardy, he's got a hoop earlobe. Oh yeah. I feel like that's almost better though. Unless you got Randy Orton sticking a screwdriver. I, uh, you guys see the karate fighters blimp floating around up in the top of the arena. I missed it. So we need back in wrestling in 2021, we need in stadium blimps.
00:26:24
Speaker
These two little guys right behind Owen right now, um, on the hard cam side, like they're kind of like in the middle of the arena. They just like scream nineties. Children do like their two, two little kids with bowl cuts. And, uh, yeah, I see you talking about like five rows back. Yeah. I mean, they just like the essence of the nineties. Yeah. They're like the home improvement kids. Yeah, exactly. JTT.
00:26:52
Speaker
Is that Jonathan Taylor Thomas? It might be him as a kid. You never know. No, I wouldn't. I could spot. I could spot a 90s Jonathan Taylor Thomas from a mile away. Dude, I had every teen and tiger beat photo. I remember JTT. He's actually part of the WWE universe. Remember he was at he was one of the celebrities at WrestleMania 11. That's right. Remember back in the day, every WrestleMania, they would just parade out a random mix of celebrities to be like guest timekeepers and announcers and shit. Yeah.
00:27:20
Speaker
Nice double team from our embedded Shawn Michaels. Uh-oh, time for some little sweets, Yen. Yeah, there was some sort of, um, you know, meme that was going around not too long ago. And it was like, you know, if you want to feel old, just know that Jonathan Taylor Thomas is now the age that, um, Tim, the tool man Taylor was during that, uh, that run. I was like, Oh, wonderful. Great.
00:27:54
Speaker
There goes Dean Dean Dean got hit by his own partner classic classic Survivor Series kayfabe conundrum right there basically you were operating with about 70% of your normal XP so So yeah, it doesn't take much to get pinned at Survivor Series. Now. Here we go. These guys the brother-in-laws Are they are they gonna go at it? Oh
00:28:15
Speaker
You know, Owen doesn't care. He's so devious. At the end of the day, he'll he'll attack anybody. Oh, yeah. It's a black heart, man. It's too damn selfish. You'll kick your leg off under your leg. And Owen and Yoko Zuna had been the tag team champs till about a month and a half before this. You should have known these line. He's shaking with the left hand. Yeah, he is. Oh, see, they both went for it. They know each other too well. Maybe that's a Canadian thing, Seth. You don't know.
00:28:49
Speaker
This is a timely episode. It was just last week that Chalk Line dropped the Aqua Razor Ramon shorts based off of his attire from this match. That's right. Is it Aqua? It looks really green.
00:29:04
Speaker
I think it just looked green because it was like gold lights hitting it because it was gold lights hitting on the entrance and Oh, yeah, golden blue mixed together or yellow and blue mixed together makes green. So. Oh, wow. Yeah, elementary lesson we got going on here. We get some now we get now we get some razor action. He hasn't he hasn't been in the whole match just yet. These guys had a series of classics at this point, you see razor pointing up to the ceiling, saying belt up there tonight.
00:29:37
Speaker
They had the WrestleMania 10 ladder match and then the rematch was just a couple months prior at SummerSlam 95. So they really did do a good job of weaving in a whole lot of different stories into this match.
00:29:55
Speaker
There's the karate fighters blimps, you know, see it at the top. Oh, yeah, there it is. So this was something that was around from like 95 to 97. They would just have a blimp and whoever the sponsor was, they'd have it plastered on there and it would just float around the stadium. Blimps were a much bigger advertising tool back in the the 90s. Yeah. Don't you remember how much of a big deal it was when the Goodyear blimp was that like a football game? Oh, yeah. It's like if they had to make it known the Goodyear blimp is here. Yes. Yeah.
00:30:25
Speaker
Like I still remember it was at one of the Nebraska games I went to and I was like, holy crap, the blimp is here. Like it was like a huge deal. And why was it, I don't even know why Goodyear even had a blimp. They make tires. Shouldn't they have something based on like being on the road? Yeah, but maybe blimps are made out of rubber. They're made out of Goodyear rubber, you know? What's the purpose of a blimp? I don't really understand.
Blimps in History & Advertising
00:30:47
Speaker
Who flies in blimps? Is it just for advertising? Like I've never heard of anybody like traveling in a blimp.
00:30:53
Speaker
You know, I suppose it's I don't know. I don't know what the application of a blimp would be for. I wonder if you want to fly for a long time, but not go very far. It's like that and the hot air balloon. I'm like, what are we doing here? You know.
00:31:11
Speaker
It seems like there are much safer, more efficient ways to, uh, to travel. I'm going to pull up the Google machine. Like what is the purpose of a blimp? I just looked it up. So like early uses of a blimp was for surveillance in world war. Yeah, it makes sense. Cause you got a long time. You could stay up in the air and you don't got to travel a long ways. Yeah. How about that razor's edge on Sean, man? That was just such a tremendous finishing move. And Ahmed came in with a flying Tomahawk chop to break up the pin.
00:31:43
Speaker
Very high fuel efficiency. The way things are going, we'll all be traveling in blimps for long. Can't wait. Yeah. I'm about to buy up that Goodyear stock. I'm going to take my blimp to WrestleMania. I say, I say, bring back hot air balloons. Yeah. Hell no. I ain't going up and up for no hot air balloon, bro. Go straight up. We used to, we used to have a hot air balloon show in my little hometown and it was cool. But as you get older, you get more fearful things. And I'm like, no.
00:32:12
Speaker
We got gold dust back here in the back. He's the guy with the face paint. It's representing. We have a raise a razor and a shot on the ground for a double knockout referees counting about right now. I think the problem with matches like these, like the fans, I think it's hard for them to really get behind somebody. You know what I mean? Cause it's a team match, but it's the individuals in the match. That's who they actually like. Yeah.
00:32:43
Speaker
Oh, I'm Sid, the master and the ruler, the blind tag. And I'm going way too deep dive on blimps right now. I got to stop. Remember Nickelodeon used to have one too. Good year. Apparently had three blimps. Three different blimps. Wow.
00:33:13
Speaker
How crazy to think that is awesome as, as razor Ramon is right here. He was, he would be at a WWE in about six months. That is insane. What are you going to do? They'll get too creative here.
00:33:33
Speaker
I guess we could say with the razor, the more things change, the more they stay the same, you know, just still feels like that. Well, he's got the tan and bed lines on his butt cheeks. You know, how would you like lay? I don't know if you guys know. Nope, we don't. When you lay in the tan and bed, you know, your, your butt cheek has that fold and it doesn't get tan and he's got the little butt cheek folds.
00:33:53
Speaker
I was born with a permanent one, so I don't know anything about that. I haven't been in a tanning bed in probably like 15 years, but I used to. Is there a way to cover it or something like that?
00:34:13
Speaker
You could just open, you know, you change positions in the tandem bed to try to get all angles. If you flip over and lay on your belly. I'd probably just spray tan.
00:34:28
Speaker
I've done plenty of that too. Yeah, spray tanning. Yeah, not much different there, Mark. I've got to look up your butt cheeks for them to spray it underneath. I mean, instead of like laying in awkward positions, at least it's like, you know, just spray it up. It's colored in. You think that until somebody, you know, you're bending over and somebody's like, you know, spraying your banana cracks with paint.
00:34:58
Speaker
Wow. I thought this is like the fourth double down we've had in this match already. Razor's been on the mat more than he's been up, dude. He's... These guys keep wrestling for like three minutes and they're like, fuck it, double down. Let's take a break, man. Oh, God. Sid's going up to the top rope. He's going to snap his leg like a toothpick. I remember watching that live.
00:35:22
Speaker
on on on nature. That was freaking. I still think that's got to be the most gruesome injury ever. Do not talk about it, dude. Did you guys did you guys get to see that live or were you like? No, I was kind of WCW was dead to me by that point. Oh, man. And the bad thing was that, you know, this was kind of pre YouTube. So there wasn't an easy way to go back and see the clip. I think I had to wait until the VHS of that show came out or actually actually read it.
00:35:50
Speaker
Wrestling Jesus is a time traveler, dude. Look right here in the front row. Um, front row Jesus over here on the, uh, no, that's, that's ECW guy. He was at like basically every show. He was, he was a super fan from the nineties. It was like Vladimir. And, uh, and then this guy, he was at everything, uh, WWF and ECW. It was on the East coast pretty much. He was there. Yeah. I was reading for the heels as well.
00:36:16
Speaker
I like his disposable camera. See, that's the thing about these teams, like they don't even care about what another dude I mean, of course, Sean didn't give a fuck about anybody, but oh, yeah. Well, Sid was his like hated rival.
00:36:32
Speaker
Exactly. But that's what I'm saying. It's just kind of like... Did Bulldog just totally whiff on that leg drop? Yeah, absolutely whiff. He missed. Yeah. And he just went back to the corner like nothing happened. And they just pensive anyways. I think Bulldog just did it off instinct. He was like, oh, I got to break up the fookin' pen.
00:36:49
Speaker
Raiser's like get the fuck out of here, dude. There's a cute idiot. Maybe Bulldog realized at the last second, oh shit, Sid's supposed to get eliminated. Let me just go flying past everybody. Oh, what a power bomb on Sean. Pretty crazy. The Survivor Series a year from now, Sid would win the World Championship from Sean with that exact same maneuver. Because I'm going to have done a damn thing.
00:37:16
Speaker
Uh, he came in and hit that flying Tomahawk where he's a Ramona. That wouldn't worry about it. He'll be in there soon. Yeah. Gotta save up his energy. Sheen when you're on big dude season, you got to conserve energy. That's right. I mean, yeah. Bulldog hasn't been in there as much either. No, it's really been all Sean.
00:37:39
Speaker
Show this power bomb. I think he has a cardio to do so. The other two are, you know, the guys on the heavy juice need to see what their energy. So we're going for their Margo. Let's try to be nice. Sean, Sean, uh, doesn't seem like the type that like to sit on the sidelines anyway. I saw that whole match if he has to by himself.
00:38:08
Speaker
Oh, right in the nuts. That was a straight up dick kick. Yeah. You know, he's still stomping them. I love how Owen literally just gave Sean five straight dick kicks and Sean still getting up wrestling. And like in modern wrestling, if you do one little, like, you know, uppercut to the, to the nuts, it's like you're completely incapacitated.
00:38:35
Speaker
I don't think it was actually, it wasn't actually kick him in the nuts. It was kind of the, uh, the lower midsection. Yeah. Sternum. Yeah. Sternum. He was getting a sternum. He was not kicking him. I don't know if you guys know where your sternum is, but it's definitely, it's definitely not right above your, you know, sorry. Sorry. We'll say as a dude, if, uh, I mean that, that probably wouldn't hurt as much, but if someone wants to crouch down and do that, like whole arm lift and catch everything going down.
00:39:04
Speaker
There's a difference between the two. So it depends on if you hit the twig or the berries. Because you can catch them all with that China low blow. You can catch everything at once. Yeah, you're going down. China did have a good low blow, man. Probably the best in the game. A lot of people got to see that. Including myself. The follow through on it was shredded. Oh, the dreaded Yoko's in a nerve hold.
00:39:34
Speaker
This is just rest for Yoko is all this is. I know he still looks mean, you know, he's still got the, the gaze down. He's chilling. Yeah. He's thinking about them Turkey legs and Mayo. He's got in his locker.
00:39:52
Speaker
He's got 18 hot dogs backstage. He's ready to polish off. That's stuck with me during that documentary about them talking about Yoko, like taking straight Turkey. It was no, it's Turkey. Next, right? Turkey. Turkey tales. Yeah. Turkey tales, but you're basically like straight up just like cartilage and like fat. You know what I mean? And you would dip them in mayonnaise and eat them. Oh yeah.
00:40:15
Speaker
What the hell is that? A turkey tail? What the fuck? I'm sure it was fried. It's the butt of the turkey. Yeah. Yeah. That's what Bruce Bridgeman say. They said he'd get his oil going backstage, and he'd just dip the turkey tail in there, fry it, and then dip it in mayonnaise and eat it. Oh, my god. Supposedly, they're pretty dang good, man. They're really, really popular with islanders and stuff. But yeah, it's just the butt of the turkey. But they call it turkey tails, I guess, just to sound more marketable than turkey butt.
00:40:43
Speaker
Yeah. Who the hell was eating a turkey ass? The thing about how good pork butt is and stuff, you know what I mean? True. Same concept. I'll try it. If I could ever find them somewhere, I'm going to try it. I think I'm going to do it just the way Yoko did it also.
00:41:03
Speaker
get a jar of Hellman's up. We use the good stuff, but get the tub at the tub of Hellman. It's just a big, giant tub. Yeah. Cause guaranteed he was shoving his whole fist in there. Yeah. He had the commercial, um, size, the Costco Hellman's. Yeah. Oh, all right. No, half measures. I know half measures. I love Yoko Zuna, dude. And he was the shit.
00:41:34
Speaker
I don't care how many Turkey SC eight and he was awesome. Here comes the hot tag. All right, here goes Ahmed. He's got about 30 seconds for, he's a totally gas. He's going way too fast for a guy his size. I mean, he had a nice vertical jump over those, over those roads, man. Dude was a beast, man. He was just so sloppy. That's why he always got hurt.
00:42:03
Speaker
Remember, he used to do like suicide dives off the top rope and everything. Yeah. For over a plunge, baby. Killer finisher, dude. Perfect. I mean, he's over, dude. The crowd is popping for him. Yeah. That razor's in. It's like, I get that. I'm taking him out. Ahmed's just enormous, dude. That was his name before he was in, uh, WWE was Big T. Yeah.
00:42:33
Speaker
Back up, dude. He's trying to hit you with a bulldog dumbass. I love how you just did like the walking bulldog. Yeah, it's gotta be frustrating. Like you're set up for like a really cool looking move and dude's just not cooperating. He did that on purpose. Yeah. How? Oh.
00:42:53
Speaker
Somebody receipts everybody. He's pissed off at Ahmed, so he's just letting everybody get it. He's making everyone else pay for it. Oh, nice spine buster. Oh, he's gassed. You can tell you, man, this dude could have been a world champ, man. If things would have broke differently, Ahmed Johnson could have been a world champion. He got stuck in that feud with the nation of domination that just lasted forever. Oh, shit.
00:43:20
Speaker
Oh, he's not a legal man though. You can tell he was gassed. He was like, yeah, just just end this for me. He's huffing. You didn't like razor razor bit off a little more and he could shoot too, dude. He took like a half step before he launched the Ahmed off, dude. You don't like the Ahmed Johnson, he was like, you're going down. You're going down. You're going down. The whole arena was chatting with him, man.
00:43:49
Speaker
He's coming back to freshly heal 1 2 3 kid. I'd love to get a figure of 1 2 3 kid in that look also. Oh Yeah, that's again. Yeah, we got so many Xbox and stuff. I feel like we need heal 1 2 3 kid by arch nemesis Yeah, just just to be clear on this patreon exclusive. We don't own any rights to The 1 2 3 kid he's probably gonna sue us for even talking about ya I'll take care of it. Don't worry. Yeah, I'll put him in his place again for
00:44:17
Speaker
Marco was undefeated against the one, two, three kids. I still think he's, it's funny that he brought it up on the busted open radio. Yeah, it's pretty funny. Yeah. I thought this guy was, I thought this guy was stealing from me. Razor Ramon goes bye-bye off of their running power slam from the bulldog. Like I said, he owes the chick bully show. Cause then he got sent free merch from homage. I know. Right.
00:44:45
Speaker
Next time I see him, I'd be like, dude, you was a big time. I'm sure he'll really retort with a great answer to that, Marco. Yeah, I'm sure he'll be super respectful. I'm sure I'm like, Oh yeah, you guys are right. How are you going for Shawn over Yoko?
00:45:10
Speaker
Just I'm like, I want to see you take the big bump, you know, he's wobbly wobbly shot just got dropped Weebles and he was but he don't fall down It's like a palm strike It's not like the we will wobble song or the we will song with that what were they talking about
00:45:34
Speaker
Oh my God. You guys, you don't know what I'm talking about. The little people that had like the little egg shaped bottoms and they were like toys. Yeah. And they weevils. Yeah. And their theme song was they weevil and they wobble, but they don't fall down. You guys sure. I know what you're talking about. Okay. Thank you. I'm trying to help you out. Thank you, Marco. The other, the other two are just like, I feel like that leg drop would kill you man for a shoot. Oh yeah. I came down across your skull.
00:46:01
Speaker
Oh yeah, it would crush you 100%. That's how professional he was. He didn't hurt anybody actually with it. So just to set the table now, we're down to Owen Hart and Yoko, the former tag team champs against Sean Bulldoggin on there. Every time Yoko gets up here, I just think to myself, can you imagine being the guy on the bottom just like
00:46:26
Speaker
Nope. Whoa. Oh, geez. Waiting for that to fall. Because I mean, one wrong slip, dude. If his foot slips off that rope. You're dead. You're dead. Or at least you got a broken face. A ribs. I mean, it would definitely break. He would definitely break your ribs.
00:46:44
Speaker
Probably a broken sternum. Yeah, a broken sternum. The top sternum, not the bottom sternum. Exactly. Not the bread basket, the top sternum. Yeah.
00:47:02
Speaker
All right, we're going to see the body slam. He was like, oh, should I jump over? Yeah, he was like, no, fucking, I'm tired. Dude, Sean has no respect for British Bulldog, by the way. He hasn't tagged me once. Look at this. Oh, all right. Was that better or worse than Lex Luger's body slam? I think it's better. I like the speed and the ferocity with which you did it. There was no messing around.
00:47:29
Speaker
Bulldog you guys could have won the match man. What do you care if your cousin survives or not that all right? Sweet chin music Ahmed channels is in her ultimate warrior. That's a ball game So he had shaman as the last two dogs in there too for dogs survived as well
00:48:05
Speaker
Cornette looks like a freaking clown. So what's the verdict, guys? Wildcard match. Should it have been one and done or is this a concept they could bring back? What do you think, Shannon? No. Leave it alone. I did not like this. It just didn't make any sense either.
Wildcard Match: A One-Time Experiment?
00:48:20
Speaker
There was no cohesion at all.
00:48:22
Speaker
This was pretty bad. I think there was a reason why they never brought this back. See, I like this match, man. I don't like it. I don't like the concept. I thought this match worked just because the blended guys that were in there, like you had a bunch of different people kind of on their way up or someone on their way down. Besides Dean Douglas, I think everybody else in this match was very, very interesting. Yeah. So I do. I do like this match. But yeah, as a concept, yeah, I kind of agree. It was probably best one and done.
00:48:50
Speaker
But like dude, survivor series was like the time where everybody at least got into a match. So it was cool for that reason. I mean, these guys didn't have any like real storyline going into this. So at least they got into a match, which as of now, they're only going to do one of these a year. So kind of sucks. Yeah. But then again, the roster is not the same size as it was in this time either. Let me, uh,
00:49:14
Speaker
I'm going to pull up the actual card from the 95 survivor series. We'll go through the rest of these while we wait for them to. Oh, we have a presidential candidate. Yeah. This event was in Washington DC. So of course they had to have the, uh, Bill Clinton.
00:49:32
Speaker
Alright, so yeah, like Jordan said, they had to dig deep on the roster for these Survivor Series shows with all the elimination matches. So the dark match on this show was the smoking guns against Public Enemy, which I don't remember Public Enemy even being in WWF. That must have just been like a tryout type situation.
00:49:51
Speaker
The opening match was the body Donna's against the underdogs. Again, if there's, if, uh, what's, once you get done listening to this podcast, if you still got an appetite for some wrestling action, go back and watch the opening match from this show. Cause it's tremendous. Like these guys are working. The match actually Marty's and Eddie hits a top rope power bomb of all things in this match. We'll take a pause. Look at Brett here in the hockey Jersey. Hello.
00:50:21
Speaker
This is a knockdown drag out. Yeah, this is the third one on one pay-per-view match that Bretton Diesel had at this point. They fought at King of the Ring 1994 and were 11 1995. Diesel's been champ for over a year. I don't think it's been, I don't think it was a year. I think it was a little under a year. No, cause he wanted what, let's see what day this happened. I looked it up earlier today. I think it was like 358 days. Let me check. All right. So this was November 19th.
00:50:50
Speaker
I want to say diesel won the belt on, uh, let me pull it up on the old Wikipedia. Let's see what, yep. Uh, no, no spoilers, but, um, you know, uh, he ended diesels 358 day rain. The longest of the 1990s up to that point. I was thinking of the 94 survivor series was one of those ones that happened earlier in the month. There's a Brett's gear from his ultimate edition figure.
00:51:22
Speaker
Either way, that's still super impressive. I'll hold the belt almost a year at this time in WWF. Oh yeah. I mean, it was the longest reign of the nineties. So obviously it was pretty impressive. Right. We're at lost the belt at survivor series the year prior, uh, to Bob Backlund and their submission match. That was a huge diesel bark too as well. Yeah. Diesel was pretty cool.
00:51:50
Speaker
He's big daddy cool. I like this red shirt. This guy's wearing right behind the announce table. The white almost looks like airbrush. Oh, yeah. I think that's actually a white gray shirt. I had that shirt. Is it the it looks like the it's the same. It's my jacket. Yeah. I like this undertaker shirt. He's got soul right behind Mr. Perfect's head. Yeah, he's got the whole.
00:52:17
Speaker
Is that due to a security guy with like that white jacket? Look at that Survivor Series event shirt right there with the chick behind Mr. Perfect Square. That's probably the best one out of this whole front row. The good old JR. So listen to these teams go back to that opening match, the body donnas with Skip, better known as Chris Candido, Rad Radford, Dr. Tom Pritchard, brother Bruce Pritchard, and the one, two, three kid going up against the underdogs, Marty Gennady, Hakushi, Barry Horowitz, and Bob Holly. Now that's the main event anywhere in the world.
00:52:54
Speaker
I'd love to get a, uh, a figure of Brett and his gear right here. The all pink. Look at that. Tremendous look. All right. 1995 Marco, who are you rooting for in this match? Brett harder diesel.
00:53:20
Speaker
Oh, oh, Bret Hart. But I do love Diesel, though. But the edge goes with Bret. Jordan. Bret Hart. Yeah, I see. Hey, it's Danny Tamburrelli.
00:53:32
Speaker
It really wasn't, for those of you who didn't know. Did Bret Hart rip off Michael Jackson with that jacket design, or was Michael Jackson before? Well, the Beatles kind of had that look going back with the Sgt. Pepper's lonely hearts. I think they're the kind of ones that made the military dress uniform style jackets a thing.
00:53:55
Speaker
Michael Jackson kept it going and you know, Brett did the same because Brett would alternate sometimes he'd rock just a regular leather jacket and then sometimes he'd do the ones with all the accoutrement on the shoulders and everything. Pretty dope look, though, if Brett gets another Ultimate Edition, I think this would be a very good choice.
00:54:14
Speaker
for the, for the look. I think we, I think we need an all pink ultimate edition. I think you could do this. You could do WrestleMania nine against Yoko. That was the one where it was pink and that the trim was white instead of black. Or you could do a WrestleMania eight against Roddy Piper. That'd be pretty cool since we just got the, the Roddy Piper figure from that match with this ring rat.
00:54:39
Speaker
She's probably those kids mom said, Jesus Christ. I don't know. She looked very excited for her big daddy, cool. I mean, look at the guy. I mean, the big sex of the day. Come on, the guys didn't look like that at WWF before he came home. I know. Here, I'm still giving the googly eyes to Brett. Does that make me a ring rat? I'm over here on that. This chick was in the front row, though.
00:55:01
Speaker
She got her kids. I don't know. I don't know. She looks like she was trying to be teen. She's got kids. Yeah, she got kids. She's trying to find a big daddy to take care of them. I like Diesel's look too. He's awesome. The vest.
00:55:28
Speaker
This is a badass match. So this is no disqualification. We'll kind of talk through it as it's going. But yeah, this was arguably like the most hardcore match in WWF history by the time by the time it was over.
No DQ Match: Diesel vs. Bret Hart
00:55:43
Speaker
Very cool pyro. Yeah, I like the ring post pyro. I'm a big fan of the the golden showers instead of like, you know, you are the pop in fireworks.
00:55:57
Speaker
That's news to me. I bet you are. You know, I mean, I was like, like the Randy Orton style, like the razor moon. I feel like that looks like more prestigious, looks more made than like just having a bunch of regular old fireworks popping off. Yeah. Nothing more prestigious than a golden shower. Yeah. Seth likes to, you know, set the ring on fire. Oh, I love that. That's one of my favorite Brit gifts. Does the eyebrows.
00:56:29
Speaker
Yeah, that bread gear is freaking awesome. He always does like a, who's he looking at when he does it? He's like this matches where he does like winks to people or a lot of times he would have his, uh, his kids would be in the front row. You see a lot, a lot of times like the front row on the hard cam side at events, that's pretty much reserved for, uh, like wrestlers. That's like the VIP section and they'll rotate people in depending on like what, what match is happening, you know?
00:56:57
Speaker
Alright, so just to set the tone, we got both guys taking the turn buckle off. No, I always liked about Diesel too when he kind of explained it. Did you guys see the broken skull sessions with him? So he talks about where he got the race of the fist from.
00:57:15
Speaker
when he walks out or when he gets in the ring. He got it from the 1968 Olympics. Nice. Tommy Smith and I forget the other guy's name, but they raised their fists on the podium when they awarded their medals because he grew up in Detroit and stuff like that. He's always with the community, we'll say, back in the day. He just thought that was a cool thing to
00:57:41
Speaker
Like represent so that's why I always did that uh, the fist of the air which is I thought it's pretty cool. So It's like Kevin Nash had a had a crazy life man So it was what all-american basketball player in high school actually went to the University of Tennessee and played college basketball Then when he blew out his knee Yep, join the army of all things went to Germany for a little bit and then he was playing some pro basketball in Germany for you heard his knee again Yeah, and then finally came around to pro wrestling and
00:58:09
Speaker
Yeah, he talks about, uh, talks about that stuff because it's like, God damn, you're a big man. Did you play basketball? What was that like?
00:58:26
Speaker
And then, uh, you know, he went to a couple failed gimmicks there in WCW before finally finding his way started off as, uh, Oz, which I would still love to get a figure of that. Also, you know, for a few years there, Mattel was giving us the Russell crap gimmicks. That would, that would be great. Cause he also was super toyetic. Remember with the big green, uh, robe and everything.
00:58:45
Speaker
I mean, we're getting a mean Mark Callis. So like anything's possible now. True. I'm kind of hyped for that. Me and Mark could go. You had the same move set as the undertaker. He just didn't have the gimmick. Oh yeah. I'm excited for that figure. I think it looks good. They nailed the face scan too. Yeah, he would, he was Oz and then he switched up and he was Vinny Vegas, DDP's a bodyguard.
00:59:10
Speaker
All right, we're on the outside now. We're the back of the aisle. I'm pretty sure I had this exact same outfit this kid right here in the front corners wearing. What, the blue plaid? The blue plaid, yeah. Did you have the beret also? I never had a beret, surprisingly enough. I probably wanted one if I remember back. I had some generic tims. Just some tims.
00:59:37
Speaker
Yeah, they weren't real Tim's though. He's, he's got the films on. Yeah. I had some films. Yeah. I was like, you're getting $200 boots. What's wrong with you? I was hardcore Tom boy. I used to dress, uh, you know, interestingly. She does rock of the baggy jeans and Tim's best believe it.
01:00:08
Speaker
Lots of plaid, lots of denim, lots of, um, hooded shirts. That was a, that was a look back in the day. Hoodies, hoodies, flannels, hooded flannels. Yeah. Yep. All of it. Now, now all I can think about is getting one of these WWE cameraman or WWF cameraman jumpsuits. I'm like, I need this freaking romper, dude.
01:00:34
Speaker
He does he does have some he had some at the Whatever their last event was I can't remember what it was. I get this stuff. So summer slam Yeah, they had a summer slam pop up and he had like three different ones Of course they were higher than giraffe punani Yeah, those cannot be cheap Come on Sheena you're good at making shit make one. That's true. I
01:01:03
Speaker
Yeah. Oh yeah. I could totally make some out of the, out of your old, uh, do they still wear those coveralls and maybe it was every day at work. Yeah. It's basically getting murdered so far this match. Yeah. Diesel hasn't even broke a sweat yet. He's getting his ass kicked.
01:01:30
Speaker
You guys think Sean and Diesel braided each other's hair backstage? They're both rocking the pony braid tonight. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You definitely did. No doubt. Nothing wrong with that. Mm. Nothing wrong with that little. Mm hmm. That was a stiff bump. Male hair bonding. I mean, Bredo always made stuff look like more devastating than it did. You just just act good at that.
01:02:00
Speaker
I just had to slap some Starburst out of Sheena's hand. Trying to give the listeners some ASMR, actually. It's bad enough even on the podcast, but yeah, you got a crinkly wrapper, and then both candies inside of it are also individually wrapped. It's going to be great. You know you like that. It's like ASMR slash. Yeah, that's what I said. I'm on one of these chairs, man.
01:02:30
Speaker
There's still got to be a few of those floating around. Let me do a quick eBay search, see what's out there for this event. I had a wrestling for sale. He probably knows where you can find one. I've already seen him come through with the chairs. Yeah, I've never seen him really have a shipping cost far too high. That's true. And he has to store all this stuff. So he doesn't keep a lot of like, uh,
01:02:53
Speaker
So the most expensive thing on eBay right now related to this event, if you guys remember that event shirt we talked about that we saw the young lady wearing in the front row, it's got the American flag backdrop with Bretton Diesel staring each other down. That is on eBay right now. How much do you think it is, Jordan? It's in decent condition. What size does that make a difference to?
01:03:22
Speaker
It's a large, in decent condition. Not perfect, but it's definitely passable. I'll say, I'll say 600. 650 bucks, dude. Oh, wow. Yeah. Let me see if that's a buy now or if that's a, a 650 or a best offer. So yeah, pretty cool. Hopefully one of the bootleggers that we're friends with will, uh, we'll do a repro on that because that is a cool shirt, especially with the flag in the background.
01:03:54
Speaker
All right. Let's see what the, the last time that shirt came up, it went for six 20. Jesus. First, first print version of the Coliseum video of this went for 250 bucks. Wow. Still sealed. It's still sealed. Like brand new, like never, never been open. I swear to God. I want to be like Marty McFly. Like you don't need the sports almanac. You just need to go back to these freaking WWE shows and collect all the freaking merch, dude. Yep.
01:04:24
Speaker
That's really it, though. There's not a lot out there on this event. I just searched sold items. You're actually 95. And there's one of the event shirts. And then the. Oh, that's. Brett, Brett, by the forehead. Yeah, he's pissed. Here we go. Bite in the back of the head now. Hmm.
01:04:52
Speaker
There's one 90 survivor series ringside chair on eBay right now and it's the 97 one. What's it go for? It has nine beds and it's at $630. Good God.
01:05:05
Speaker
Yeah, I saw our friend sour chin music. He's got the the survivor series 97 shirt coming back out right now But is iconic is that event is for the Montreal screw job? I never really liked the branding that went with that show remember it was all about gang rules that was Supposed to be that event in addition to the Brett and Sean that was supposed to be the culmination of that like year-long string of matches between nation to domination Los bariquas and
01:05:31
Speaker
disciples of apocalypse. And that was kind of what was on all the posters and branding and everything. So I kind of passed on every release of the t-shirt. So there's a red chair and there's a black chair from that pay-per-view. The last black one that was sold, it was on best offer, but the price that was listed was $19.88. And they got a best offer and it sold on September 16th. That's insane.
01:06:01
Speaker
Yeah, I'm looking at it right now. Did you see that? The ticket stub? Dude, the ticket stub went for 1900, man. Damn, dude, that's insane. You know, Peter Rosenberg has Brett's glasses from that night.
01:06:16
Speaker
Oh, does he? He says that he does. There's no actual proof. Well, Brett used to date it. For his big pay-per-views, Brett writes a little inscription on the glasses to let somebody take it. Did he say that they had the inscription? Because I remember he got them from a friend. Yeah, the inscription's on there. All indications are that it's them.
01:06:39
Speaker
Yeah, this, uh, yeah, the chairs, that's actually the, that's all survivor series stuff, man. I just searched survivor series sold listings high to low. And that is, uh, that is the most expensive. The chair is the most expensive. Second most is that ticket stuff. I wonder if that's the same seller. Dude, some of these prices on the nineties chairs are just ridiculous.
01:07:05
Speaker
Yeah, this like 95 world world chair autograph 1300 bucks. That's insane, dude. That's like, yeah, that was the same seller, dude. So some dude made almost 4,000 bucks off of two eBay items. Wow. Yeah, there's not a lot of love for survivor series, man. There's a deadly game chair survivor series 98 that went for 500. Not a lot of not a lot of survivor series merch.
01:07:32
Speaker
people are, you think people are hanging onto it or what do you, what do you think the, what's the reason? I just think survivor series, it's just, it's faded, man. Uh, you know, because, uh, because we remember what it was, we know how, we know how important survivor series really is, but I think for people who have gotten into wrestling in the last, you know, 10, 15, hell, maybe even 20 years, they're probably looking SummerSlam, Rumble and WrestleMania for their items. That makes a lot of sense. Yeah.
01:07:59
Speaker
I think something they could do that would make it mage again is move it back to Thanksgiving Eve. That would be something to differentiate it and make it unique and or even Thanksgiving night. I know they probably don't the talent probably don't want to
01:08:12
Speaker
have to be away and doing a show on Thanksgiving night, but I think that would be cool too. Like imagine if, you know, that's what you had to look forward to at the end of the night on Thanksgiving. You got football all day and you got Survivor Series that night. I don't even think, I mean, even if you did it on Black Friday, because everybody's home on Black Friday for the most part, other than, you know, our four retail workers. Switch it up though, yeah. I think any Wednesday, Thursday, or Friday Thanksgiving week would be excellent. Well, they're not going to do it on, they wouldn't do it on Thanksgiving night because they'd have to go head to head with NFL at night.
01:08:38
Speaker
Uh, yeah, that's right. I forgot about NFL doing the prime time game. So yeah, I'm thinking Thanksgiving Eve. That's what it started off as the first few years. Cause that's why they moved a Royal rumble to Saturday next year is cause of NFL. Yep.
01:08:52
Speaker
Cause the season's a week longer. So usually that weekend is the weekend of the, um, pro bowl. Usually that's the pro bowl weekend assurance conference championship weekend. Oh yeah. And then I think that kind of like day he talked about, uh, they're looking to do more Saturday pay-per-views next year. It's so much better Saturday pay-per-views. Oh, let's break that up his sleeve. He's tying a, uh, camera cord around the, uh,
01:09:21
Speaker
around the ring post given it the old Boy Scout not yeah alright he's spent a time with that thing do they have Boy Scouts in Canada I don't know have to check it out the Boy Scouts of Canada it's Boy Scouts candidate yeah we're all habner you piece of shit right you just turn around clock his ass right now
01:09:51
Speaker
Yep. Scouts Canada. What's he doing here? Oh, he's signing on. He's signing up on his ankle. Putting the big man on a leash. Wicked little leg whip to the face. Yeah. And he's got extra damage because he's got those rhinestones on the pants.
01:10:19
Speaker
I thought about that last day at AW last night. There was a lot of rhinestone heavy gear. I was just thinking, wait, it's just got to hurt. Like when somebody's like, you know, just rubbing their crossy face. What about the young bucks in those damn knee pads? Can you imagine if they accidentally fell the wrong way? Yeah, the tack pads. Yeah. And the perp, the, what was it, like a pink mustache, pink beard? Yeah, purplish pink beard. Those guys go all out.
01:10:48
Speaker
See what you did there. It's about 2,000 bucks right there, Brett. Yeah. Tread lightly, my friend. That was specific one that's in the ring. That's probably worth like 5,000. Yeah. This is the actual chair that Brett used. Still got sweat on it. Brett sweat. Sheena would pay top dollar for that.
01:11:14
Speaker
I would then I could make my own. I could, you know, through, uh, DNA and make my own little Bret Hart. Oh, right. Now you're getting weird. Yeah, this is taking a turn for the worse. God, you guys, you never seen big bang theory where he makes his own letter. I'm going to stay silent on that. Get him Brett shades of 97 Brett here working heel showing his vicious side.
01:11:49
Speaker
I have some choice words for the big bang theory that I'll keep off this show. Don't speak ill of big bang theory. Big bang theory is a great show. Wow. Okay. No sell. No sell a big bang theory. I mean, it's all right. It's like, it's whatever.
Bret Hart's Wrestling Style & Strength
01:12:09
Speaker
Jordan, you're a big bang guy. I mean, I am a big bang guy, just not the show. I got you. Wow. Wow.
01:12:20
Speaker
I think you're on your own on this one. Backbreaker. That's a big dude for Brett to get up. The strength of Brett to hit me at heart with that. Yeah, Brett was stout, man.
01:12:36
Speaker
I like about this match too like it looks like it's not just some like big dude like being the crap out of a little guy like it looks almost like equal yeah like Bret Hart is is like even though D was like seven feet tall and it's like a fight man like there's like over the top spots like these guys are just fucking brawling dude
01:12:55
Speaker
Yeah, it doesn't look ridiculous. It doesn't look like, oh, like realistically, it's not like, oh, Bret Hart would be able to beat Diesel. Like it looks like he has a legit shot, like in a street fight that he would, he would beat Diesel if he needed to. Dude, after touching the ring ropes, it like literally pains me every time they do one of those, those falls where they get racked on the top rope. Oh yeah. How did they even finish the match after that? Ruptured testicle. Surely they wear, um,
01:13:25
Speaker
cups or something. I think I just jockstrap. What does that do? That just holds it in place or what? Yeah, it keeps everything tight to your body so it can't get like... Smashed. Yeah, I told you, baby. Polarize. Jesus, it's not going through a blender.
01:13:50
Speaker
It's like a grind. Imagine if you ever stepped on a grape, dude. Yeah, but I don't wear a jock strap when I step on a grape. If you were a grape, you would. Yeah, it would probably pulverize it if Yoko did a leg drop on your girl. Oh, my God. Yeah. All right. That's enough.
01:14:16
Speaker
Your kids wouldn't be able to have kids. Oh, Brett, with the, you say, hate those like turnbuckle. Yeah. The front buckle and no, no, uh, pad there either. That shit had to hurt. I mean, it was like the ring like shifts a few inches. Whenever Brett would take that bump, he would hit it so hard. Yeah. Here we go. Yeah.
01:14:41
Speaker
Jeez. He talks about that in his book. He says nobody takes a front buckle like me. Oh, no, definitely not. No, he's he's he's right about that. I don't even really see anybody even try to take that bump anymore. That's kind of just he kind of just made that his own. Yeah, you see that you see a few people like like Donald Ziggler does it sometimes like but not as obviously not as good. But you see some people try to do it. I just don't think people just do it out of respect. Probably like we can't pull this off.
01:15:07
Speaker
You know, it's funny we talked earlier watching the wildcard match about how, uh, you know, as a whole in the books, they really seem like, you know, offshoots of Sean Michaels. I don't really think anybody nowadays that I would say is like offshoot of Brett. He was just so unique in the mix of the technical ability and just the, the realism really, I think is what really set him apart. Yeah, I could, I guess anybody that you would, would say is the closest thing to him nowadays. I mean, as far as like technical brawler type of thing, you know, uh,
01:15:38
Speaker
You have to go Brian Danielson, I'm assuming, active in active wrestling. Yeah, he's got some of the movie tie striking stuff that Bret never did. I think Kurt Angle was kind of close to it back when Kurt Angle was kind of at his peak. But even that, he had a lot of the suplexes and stuff. I feel like there hasn't been another Bret Hart since Bret left. No, definitely not. We've had people that have been described as the next Shawn Michaels or the next whoever. But yeah, I still don't feel like we've seen the next Bret Hart yet.
01:16:06
Speaker
Yeah, it'd be hard to like put someone in that category. He's really, I mean, he was the best there is, best there was, and the best there ever will be. He wasn't lying when he said it. I mean, no one else says that about themselves. They might say they're the best in the world or, you know, they're the greatest of all time, but they don't say they're the best there ever will be, you know? So, I mean, it goes to show you right there. Yeah, breath's a man. He's definitely one of a kind.
01:16:36
Speaker
And bread didn't need a lot of freaking, you know, over the top promos and all that kind of stuff. You know, he just kept it low key. Yep. Canadian tuxedo and capital low key. Yeah.
01:16:53
Speaker
I love Hill Bret Hart though. Yeah, that's my favorite time. Just have like shooting on America and all that stuff to do. That was gold. Boom. We finally got a good bulldog. Razor's in the back watching that like you mother. See how bad that's how you do it. That was my spot. No, Razor's probably already back at the hotel.
01:17:22
Speaker
Brett's getting his shit in now. Side Russian leg, sweet. Always look good. You know, he's like dead tired too. And it looked great. Oh, the, the, uh, pilgrim ladies getting into it. Well, yeah, that's, you know, she's wearing a Brett shirt. That's what she came here to see.
01:17:43
Speaker
She's like, I didn't lean on this country for you guys in horrible match. Oh, what a close line. Yeah. That's going to be me in 40 years. With a big collar. Get him, Brad. Oh, man. Crashes and burns. He walked away. He did the Samoa Joe before Samoa Joe. You ever see those clips where he just walks away from someone going to dive on him? Yeah. He literally just did the same thing.
01:18:18
Speaker
That was a wicked bump. Get up, Brett. Yeah, that was quite the tumble right there.
Iconic Table Spot in WWE History
01:18:40
Speaker
I remember like, uh, you know, I told you guys, this was my 11th birthday party. It was basically getting this event. And I remember I was like having fun, like hanging out. And I just remember being just like setting three feet in front of the TV, just petrified that Brett was going to lose this match. All right, here we go. Kick everybody out of his birthday party. Oh yeah. Party would have been over. You are about to see the first ever table spot in WWE history. Boom. Oh.
01:19:10
Speaker
Wicked look at listen to the audience do all look at all the kids coming forward to the People had we had never seen anything like it at this point You see there's no they didn't move the they didn't move the TVs or anything It seemed much more organic than the table spots nowadays, but yeah, I mean Brett crass do that Look at this guy in the leather jacket. He's pissed. I
01:19:36
Speaker
He's like, how dare you? How dare you? Just look at this place. That changed the tone of the whole arena. Brett talked in his book. He got the idea. He had been seeing some of the stuff that Sabu was doing on the Indies and in ECW. And that was what inspired him to bring this spot to WWE.
01:19:53
Speaker
That's awesome. Of course, of course it was the Spanish announce table. The start of a, uh, Trump, look at this four Spanish announce, you're just selling it for all his work over here. That table's like legit, like hardwood. Oh yeah. Yeah. That's no, that's no gimmick table, man. I mean, straight smashed through that thing. Look at this kid in the front row with the drip with the penguins, Jersey and the Tim's on. Oh yeah. It's dripping.
01:20:20
Speaker
Yeah, don't worry kid. Well, did they know there would be, there would be a, actually no, the, what did I ECW? So it was actually starting up and right, right around now. Right. Yeah. I'm not sure if it was the extreme championship wrestling at this point, or if it was still Eastern championship wrestling, but, but it was going, like I said, Sabu had a huge buzz going on the Indies at this time. And, and Brett had heard about some of these crazy spots he was doing at the table.
01:20:44
Speaker
Saw Brett crash and burn over the top rope we saw him get smashed through the table And now it's all over but the crying all we gotta do is a jackknife one two three Brett's fucked Or is he measured a Brett Sabu match, I'll be crazy Finish him off with a power bomb that wedgie. Oh
01:21:08
Speaker
All right, you know, Diesel, do yourself down. He was going to show just a just a touch of mercy here. That's where he is, where he messes up. No mercy.
01:21:25
Speaker
We were talking about, uh, earlier with like, you know, I'm a Johnson gas, you know, like two seconds, uh, diesel showed he could put on a whole. We get, we get a hard em effort from a diesel.
01:21:39
Speaker
Brad's able to wool over his eyes. This is what he's made of this though. I mean, Brett's a three time champ. The only other person who had done that at this point was a Hulk Hogan, but instead he gets overshadowed because we have a diesel, get these stiff ass jackknifes
Referee Earl Hebner: Controversial Opinions
01:21:54
Speaker
in. We're talking about this in his book. Also, he said these jackknifes were kind of unnecessarily stiff.
01:22:01
Speaker
So yeah, they definitely kind of overshadowed Brett being the champ for the third time here with Diesel's heel turn. I thought they could have saved this for, for raw the next night, but whatever. At least Brett won the match. Oh geez. That's a serious freaking power bomb. Put some stank on it. You just gotta, you gotta land right Brett? I mean, that's not, not all Diesel's follow. You just gotta brace yourself. I don't know how you land when somebody just slant throwing each other freaking to the deck.
01:22:35
Speaker
And why do they hand diesel the bill and just have him like throw it down? Earl Hebner is a certified bitch. He's turning it on site status, man. Fuck Earl Hebner. Oh my God. He's a certified bitch. If I ever see Earl Hebner a person, slap it and say, that is now. Earl Hebner is TOS, man.
01:22:55
Speaker
Hey, you're gonna reach back for a slap and he's gonna fucking hit you with a fucking brass nux. I'm fucking wrong. If I ever see Earl Hevner, if I go to a WrestleCon, I see Earl Hevner, he's getting fucked up. Onside beef. He's onside beef. Yes. I will sucker punch his old ass. That's hilarious. You won't. I will. You won't. I will. With Bret Hart glasses on.
01:23:19
Speaker
All right. Uh, Jordan, give us your, uh, your final thoughts on these, uh, these last two matches of a survivor series 95 as we get the highlight montage to
Final Thoughts & Sign-Off
01:23:27
Speaker
send us home. They're fun, man. The traditional survivor series match always, always hits different, uh, especially the nineties ones. Cause you get, I mean, we had eight main event stars in that match other than Shane Douglas, I guess seven. Uh, and then Brett and diesel. I mean, what more can you say? Fantastic match. Great finish. It was just great show.
01:23:48
Speaker
Hell yeah. Marco, do you think that's Kevin Nash's best match of his career? It might be, actually. That was a really great performance by...
01:24:01
Speaker
So yeah, I'll probably say yes between that and the in your house April 96 good friends better enemies the street fight with Shawn Michaels I think those two were probably yes matches But yeah fun show like I said, this one was a Definitely a soft spot for me just for all the reasons we talked about during it love those matches Love seeing Brett get that that third world championship She and give us some closing thoughts for all the premium Foley fan members as we sign off tonight. Okay
01:24:28
Speaker
All right, guys, I hope you enjoyed this episode of our Survivor Series Watch Along. And it'll certainly, even though there was a little bit of hijinks and a little bit of craziness and it was a little bit of a wild card, it's certain to be better than the 2021 Survivor Series match. There goes Sheena with the negativity again. You're welcome. Happy Thanksgiving. Yeah. Thanks, everybody. And yeah, appreciate all the support.