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Season 5- Episode 44- Nothing Like A Free Jacks Win
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It's a short, but sweet pod as we lead up to the 200th episode special for those American rugby knuckleheads. On this episode you'll find us discussing the goods and bads of Borthwick's England squad, who we'd like to see out, who we'd like to start and who is just annoying us. Then it's over to Fort Quincy as we discuss the wonderful show the Free Jack's put on to clinch a place in the MLR final. Tune in for all these shenanigans and more!
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Transcript
Introduction and Podcast Overview
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It is. The Fantasy Robias. My name is Jared Dyke. I wanted to say it's stupid and let's move on, but then you kept going. I'm Ben Glauser. I don't like any way anybody gambled that. Collusion. Collusion.
00:00:27
Speaker
Hey everybody, welcome back. It is the Fancy Roggy Inc. My name is Jared Dyke. I'm Ben Glauser. Let's go. Let's get this done because we are going to be nice and brave here, friends. Yeah, rolling right through this second to last episode, penultimate episode. We have one more. One more time. One more time. Right. And that'll be even shorter than this one because I think we'll probably be discussing the MLR final.
00:00:52
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the most part, yeah. Get some beer, so you do your thing. I got it. Don't lose it.
Support and Community Engagement
00:01:01
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Find us on your favorite podcast app. Download, rate, review, share. Feedback welcome, as always. Yeah, make sure that you are
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buying our good friend, George, the fancy rugby geek, a coffee or beer. If you were anywhere near your fantasy top end, and if you are going to be adventuring into the Superbrew Abbreviate Rugby Championship fantasy, then maybe consider buying him one then too, because I bet you he's going to have a piece of advice for you all out there for that. Indeed. So yeah, anyway, go buy our good friend, George, a beer. He deserves it.
00:01:40
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Long, long season for us all. Oh, I still need to, unfortunately, sorry. Patreon subscribers. I need to turn ours off. So you don't get charged over
Protests in France and State Violence
00:01:52
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the summer. Yeah, we'll do that.
00:01:55
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make sure that you are doing that. And then also we're gonna, as always, there is no discrimination here on this podcast, nor should there be in sports or in life. We turn our attention towards France. Obviously this year's hosts has particular interests for us, but also for the world at the moment. The protests going on over there. Yeah, 17 year old Algerian kid, French kid, sorry, of Algerian descent. Yes.
00:02:25
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shot by a police officer and just touched off mass riots across the country, which to me, I'm looking at that like, yes, we need some of that here because people are way too comfortable with this shit. But ultimately, it's some burning in the street. You fucking deal with it. Yeah, the cops, it's to annoy the cops, get over it. Like they're the ones who are doing this shit. They need to like hear about it, unfortunately, because
00:02:51
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you know, the people who aren't protesting are kind of, I mean, not that you have to riot, but, you know, protest and then let the riot happen. Cause that they're not, they're going to be pissed about it. And they should be like the state has, this is the state just killing someone in cold blood and being, it being okay by for the state. So, and someone asked me, this is funny, like, um, what, you know, like French and Algerian thing. And I was like, this goes back to like, I was, I was reading a, like,
00:03:21
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And in high school, I read Camus. I had to read The Stranger. And that was the whole thing. This guy and his friends murdered an Algerian man just because he was Algerian in black and whatnot. It's like that's just how like French society has been for a long time now. So this is what happens. Right. So the language of the unheard, as they say. So.
00:03:45
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Yes, and you had a, you had another anecdote about something similar, or something else to say, it's just, you know, we can, I, what you're saying is right like we have to something has to be done. And people will continue to abuse power however big or small that is until.
00:04:09
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you know, it's until there something's done about it.
Neighborhood Fireworks and Law Enforcement
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And this is like two, this is like at a high level. That's really unfortunate that somebody decided to do this. But like, even like there's something as simple as like my neighborhood yesterday, yesterday, those that don't know was independent stay here in the United States. Um, it also brings about. Firework shows and illegal firework shows because they're illegal here in Massachusetts. Oh, right. And people set them off in our neighborhood. And for me, you know,
00:04:38
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Thank God I don't have a small child that would have woken up. I'd start freaking taking down houses. But we have Taz who hates those. He hates thunderstorms, but he can live with them. Fireworks are the worst for him. He goes into a corner. He shakes. He is inconsolable. And the worst part about it is one of the offenders is a few houses down for me, and they're a fucking cop.
00:05:04
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Yeah. It's like really, like, you know, this is illegal. And if I were to call the police to make sure that they came over and asked you to stop, it wouldn't matter because you're one of theirs. So they wouldn't do anything. And then, oh, by the way, the person that lives behind them that they do it with them, you normally is also a firefighter.
00:05:22
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So there's that. Yeah. So it's like, dude. So yeah, if they start doing, if they're doing what, which apparently they're very good about doing it many nights in a row. So if they do it tonight, I'm going to be going down there and giving this in my mind. Yeah. That's the other thing is that you're there. You're in like a more urban environment. You're in the city and like, yeah, to do it and they do it every, like that's the problem. Like the people, these people, cause I used to live in roughly the same neighborhood and it's like,
00:05:52
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And yeah, it is. There are a lot of cops in that neighborhood, too. And the same kind of thing, like they just shoot off fireworks. And it's like the one night and then, oh, we didn't, you know, we still have like a bunch left over. So we'll shoot off like, you know, 100 or so a night till we're over. And it's like, guys, if you're going to do it at all, which you shouldn't, but don't fucking do it nights in a row. Right. And I don't necessarily agree with the rule that fireworks should be illegal, but
00:06:18
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Right. Don't do it in the middle of a neighborhood where you have people that have young children and dogs that are just going to, you know.
00:06:24
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damn near shit themselves from stress because of them. That's not, that's not okay. You want to do it on your own? Cool. Go find a place, you know, you have a cabin probably somewhere, you know, someone that has a cabin, go there, do that, have fun, enjoy, you know, do it for the, and I get it, you have kids, whatever, but it's, you either need to take them to one of the local shows that are authorized or you need to bring it somewhere where it's not so fucking disruptive. Cause that's not cool, man.
00:06:50
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You know, if above anything else, as an officer of law, you at least need to be a good neighbor. And that's not a good neighbor. You know, you're always right. Like I was always taught from a young age that whatever you're doing, you know, you're part of this organization. And this is back when I was in schools, like you're in this school.
00:07:12
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Whatever you do, you represent the school. Like if you do anything illegal, the first thing it's going to say is, hey, you know, someone's student of this school. And they're like, we actually care about that. Like, don't do it. And it's like too many cops don't do that. Like, they're just like, no, I'm a, I don't care. And they're like, they're the representation. Like, why do people think that?
00:07:32
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You know, all cops are like that because every time we kind of meet a cop, we're like, Oh, you're just like that. Aren't you? Yeah. So let's take a well-earned reputation and they feel like they're above, you know, accountability because they kind of are.
00:07:47
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Yeah, nobody's holding them accountable. So I'm just going to pour water on the fire fireworks. Unfortunately, that's my only solution I have. Right. Like a super super or something. Yeah. Right. Basically a distance. Yeah. Um, anyway.
Milestone Announcement and Episode Preview
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So as most of you know, episode 200 will drop this Friday, which will probably be shortly after this pod drops, but that's OK. But it'll be there for everyone to listen to, be entertained by. I know Catherine's joining. That doesn't mean to stop listening to this one. Yeah. In order to listen to that one. Finish this one. You got to, you know. Yeah, like 20 minutes left, I promise. Yeah, exactly.
00:08:35
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Yeah, but I know Catherine's joining, so that's going to be worth the entertainment value there. So just will be available as well. That'll be nice. OK.
England Rugby Squad Critique
00:08:47
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Let's get on to one of two things that we're going to talk about. The England squad. And. Really cool to see. Some names on there, Tom Pearson, Theo Dan,
00:09:03
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Ben Earl. Ben Earl, yep. Of course, Rapopo Ruskin gets a call, Tom Willis, who will be a Saracens player this coming year. Yes, he will. Obviously, the collapse gave him some leeway for eligibility as well. Right.
00:09:21
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I, which maybe happening with that Arendelle. That might be, that might be why he can sign a couple of years and we'll see. Well, a couple of years. No one. Yes. Yeah. Fair. Yeah. I would say if anything, they'll give him some leeway this year, but then the next year they're going to be like, no, you got to come back to England. That would be a mistake.
00:09:42
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I'd let him, I'd give him away. Listen, he's got, I don't blame him for sticking over there for a couple of years, making some dough and then coming back mid cycle and coming into the squad or at least trying to get back into the squad. Let's put it that way. Yeah. I know. Um, as you and I were talking with our girlfriend, all the other day, kind of shitty for Zach Mercer. Yeah. To come back to England so he can be part of the world cup squad and gets ax kind of quick. See, this is the problem.
00:10:12
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with high level coaches. I got to say, this is what fucking pisses me off. And we saw it with Eddie and Ben Spencer. Ben, you know, I'd love you at Saracens. I love what you're doing there, but can you go be a leader and can you go lead a team from the doldrums and make them better? And he goes and he does that. And he's like, yeah, fuck off. I don't got time for you. And to me, for worse players,
00:10:41
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Right. And he's doing that with with Mercer again, because like, look, I I do like the curries. Don't get me wrong. And I like Sam Underhill. Don't get me wrong. Well, like he's he's your guy. I don't care if you want Tom Willis as you're eight. I don't care like. And Dombran's OK. I'd still point to him more as a six at this level.
00:11:10
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He said dinner place for hands last couple of day, the couple of goals within on them. I'm questioning him at the moment in terms of the white shirt. Yep. It's a games a little too fast for him. Um, it's not to say no long-term, but right now it's too, too fast for him. So yeah, I agree with keeping him in the camp. Um, but yeah, like Mercer has just been amazing and you're, you're taking worse guys than him. Cause like, I, you know, again,
00:11:35
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Can Tom Curry provide the attack that Mercer can? No, no, no. No. Is there, is there any difference in defense? Really? Marginal at best. Marginal at best. Yeah. Cause your best, I mean, yeah, your best lineup still includes Ben Earl. It still includes it to me anyway. It'd be like Willa that we're all in the Willis's. Right.
00:12:05
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Yeah. And then Loveland's got me in that conversation with the season he's had as well. So it absolutely does. Yeah. And there's well for choice, which is not a, which is not news, but I think it's been a curse for a lot of England teams, like spoiled for choice. And they end up picking the wrong names. Right. That's exactly. That's kind of, that's what worries me. Like I still, I don't like.
00:12:32
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Some of the names I'm seeing on here, like I don't like seeing Johnny Hill on this list, but I understand why he's there. You know, I don't like seeing Ben Young's on this list, but I kind of understand why he's there. Manu Tuolagi, I don't like seeing him and I don't like, I don't understand why he's there anymore. I'd like to think that Lawrence comes healthy. He's out. Henry Slade, I'm sorry. Yeah, same. No, useless. Doesn't do a thing at all.
00:13:01
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Like maybe does one thing in an 80 minute game. And it's like, that's, so that's even at the prem level, you know, Johnny may don't get it. Yeah. It's just a lot of the same. So that's what worries me. It's like, I see these guys and I'm like, Oh, are we going to put out the same fucking side again here? Cause that'll be fucking boring. They might, which is not a great idea. Not to me. I think you're, I think they're.
00:13:27
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I'm, you know, it's really weird. Like if you would ask me, if you'd talked to me yesterday, I would say, I'm not yesterday, but mid season, I would said Sinclair needs to be their tight head. I'm not convinced of it right now. So I think your one is definitely Gange. I don't think there's a question about that. It's one of the best Lutens in the world. If not the best, um, jinx easier too. Um, and then it's really, uh, I think it's going to be a tossup between Sinclair Stewart and Cole.
00:13:58
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Like if you're trying to put your best 15 out there. I think it's a toss up between those three and that and that says let's speak some more to help.
00:14:07
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far down, Sinclair's dropped a silly, not necessarily how high they've gone. Stewart's always been good. I've always thought he was one of the strongest tight heads without a doubt. Cole's played himself into this team using your prem 15 of the year. And for a good reason. If he could just not be an asshole, although it's difficult at his age. Spoken from experience.
00:14:33
Speaker
And I just get more and more asshole as you get older as a prop, especially the tight head. Oh, you get so annoyed. But five years ago, I wouldn't have to do this to keep you this way. You don't have to do it now. Well, I'm doing it anyway. Do it anyway. You're just going to punch my hand that's holding you. Right. Definitely. You can't do that anymore. I can't do that no more.
00:15:00
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I think, and I think if he's healthy, chess him slots into the second row with Maro. I would hope so. Yeah. And there are other names in here that are okay, that I'm okay with slotting in there. George Martin, I could do. Right. I'd be okay with that.
00:15:18
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Or all ribbons, yes, yes, yes. Yep. Yep. There's plenty of names to go into that engine room. Obviously, Miles is nailed on. I don't want Hill in there. That's probably the one in. Hopefully, when the squad gets cut down, he's out. Yeah. I still think Loz would make a better lock than he would. Which I agree. Someone's more dynamic. He hasn't played lock in years at that level, but it's like,
00:15:42
Speaker
He's fucking strong as shit. So that's probably he wouldn't be that long. So I would think so. Although he makes him to think he's six. But yeah, beats me. No, his attitude and his effort and his determination on the field alone should get him on the field. I just don't love him as as the back row partner. I agree. No, because there's he's not nearly as dynamic as what you need from a back row. Right. Yeah. As we know, Ben is out on the the lock at six.
00:16:11
Speaker
Yeah, I think it's, uh, I think it's antiquated. Yeah. I think there are some players that can do it, but it's not a deal and it's hard. Makes it that much different. And I, you know, the test level, I would say it's, it's very difficult. Yeah. Yeah. Um, yeah, I sure hope we seem really good. Get put into this team. Yes. For their sake. Long-term. Uh,
00:16:38
Speaker
Yeah, we'll see. And like I said, I hope I hope when Lawrence comes healthy, he's he's in and matters out, but it'll probably be someone else. Unfortunately, that sucks. Yeah, I really want to see. I want to see daily at 13. I'd like to see that as well. Because like, what do you get like that? Oh, the difference between him and slated 13 is astronomical. Yeah. Yeah. Marchant there, but I just don't know that that
00:17:06
Speaker
At this point, they don't see him as a 13. Unfortunately, they see him as a wing, which is really stupid, but this is what it is. I mean, I like him. I like him at wing in the like, he can play wing in the premiere. But. To me, at this level, he's a 13 because he doesn't have that hot that he's not finishing generally. Right. That's that way. You know, 13. Yeah, if he's if he can finish one of 13, he'll finish it. But.
00:17:35
Speaker
He's not your explosive finisher where it's like, and they've just given it to Marcia. No, and he's gone. It's like, it's like, no, it's going to be a, okay. I think hatching him from behind kind of thing. Right. Agreed. And Freddie's got to be, he's locked in as your, your fullback. So unquestionably you're down to two wings. And to me in mail-ins has to be one. I would like to see Marley as the other, but yeah, unfortunately. Coca has been excellent. Coca has been great. Exactly. Yep.
00:18:05
Speaker
That's why I'm worried. Like that's why I see these names and it's like, yeah, we're going to see Anthony Watson again. Yay. Guy really is not what he used to be. Like that's the problem is there's a lot of guys here who, yeah, they're well past their sell by date at the internet, international level. Yeah. But that's what we expected because it's England.
00:18:31
Speaker
And if you're, here's the thing, people are like, oh, well, it's a big stage. If you're picking these players to be in this camp, then you either believe in them or you don't. So if you're, if you pick them, then you better fucking believe in them. So yeah, whether they have seven caps or 80 odd caps, I'm only looking at Arendelle and care, that's kind of a wide gap. Whether they have those two, whether you have a few or many,
00:18:58
Speaker
You have warm up games, number one, so you can get kind of some sort of cohesion going on. Number two. Yeah. You know how you're going to find out if these guys can play? You have to play them. You have to play them. Okay. If you play them in game one and they totally shit the bed, all right, cool. You have enough time to rebound and you have enough time to respond and their side of the...
00:19:22
Speaker
Brett, their side of the tournament could be a little bit weaker anyway, depending on how they finish. Right. So really, I think you just, you need to just try it and live with the results because there's no other way you find out if someone can play other than playing them. There's no other way, especially at this level.
00:19:46
Speaker
You can, you and I can sit here and spin circles about how someone can play, but having not necessarily seen them play or play together with certain players, we don't know. And neither does the so-called experts, you know, they don't. So look at Ali Chasm who was doing things. I did not have him build for how good he performed in a white shirt by any means whatsoever. Right. Cause he was never, like he was never asked to do that.
00:20:14
Speaker
at Leicester, which, why?
00:20:18
Speaker
Right. You have so much more in there. Why weren't you doing this begin with? Right. That doesn't make like George Martin is just solid as a good plotting guy. And he's kind of useful in the attack a little bit, but he's more of like a Johnny Hill type. And that's kind of what I thought Chasm was. But all of a sudden he's like, no, I can actually run and dish and do fun shit with rugby ball. Good. That's right. Do that. Yes. I will have some of that.
00:20:49
Speaker
And that's the thing. If this squad can just like get good at doing rugby, playing rugby, not this whole, oh, we're going to set it over to kick. We're going to set up the box and we're going to, you know, we'll plot it. It's like, no, just run at them and run at them. Make them stop you. Mm hmm. Yeah. I mean, I'm sorry, baby.
00:21:13
Speaker
Yeah, I'm still stuck on that. Even after however many weeks we've done this year, something like that.
New England Free Jacks Performance
00:21:22
Speaker
Well, you know who can attack. New England free jacks can attack a little bit. Yes, they can. They can put some points up. Yes, they can.
00:21:33
Speaker
Even when it takes them off the board. Yeah. You know, I would say that they probably took their foot off the gas a little bit with this one too. Oh, totally. They, they cruised this one. Yeah. I mean, we were like one of the 25 nothing, but still right. But it was one of those like.
00:21:52
Speaker
Yeah, they could like, I don't know how to say it. They, they were cruising, but they were ready to open it up. If they like to really throw down the gas pedal, if they had to, they just never really had to always have a simmer, not quite at a boil. Right. They scored early on. Um, like they were three times in the first 20 minutes, only two were allowed. Um, like it was, we kind of knew where this was going. Right.
00:22:21
Speaker
Well, so here's the really, I guess, uplifting thing or pod or, you know, thing that gives me hope. They, they made more tackles than DC did. And they, I think they had, I think they had just a, just as many carries just about, and the possession was not quite even, but it was close. Um,
00:22:50
Speaker
And they, they can live on defense. They can live without the ball. And you, and I think you were talking about the other day with someone at the, at the field, like they are happy and very comfortable to not have the ball, but the second they have it, they're dangerous and they turn, you know, they love a, they love a turnover try. They love a turnover try. And they, they nearly had one or two this game, but right. They thrive in, that's a funny thing. They thrive.
00:23:20
Speaker
in the most structured of plays, they strive, they thrive on first phase and they thrive in the least structured of, of play. Like when it's just who the fuck knows what, oh, we're going to charge down a kick. Now it's a fucking scramble for the ball. Well, we win the scramble and we put it in the tri-zone and they do what it takes to get it done. And it's amazing. Like it takes so much.
00:23:45
Speaker
Like, it just takes, I mean, I shouldn't say takes so much. It takes practicing putting yourselves in that position and working with it and determining roles. And it's just making the, like, it's unstructured technically, but everybody there has a role. You know, someone's got the inside line. Someone has the outside line. Someone has got a trailer. Like someone's got the second, the first attack from the second phase off of it. Like you hit that and that's what scores your tries.
00:24:15
Speaker
And that's the same kind of thing in the first phase. You have your guys who are the distraction runners, the dummy runners. You have the guys who are the outline runners. And we're going to try to isolate the guy that we think we can take care of. And you do that. And it's not
00:24:35
Speaker
complex, but man, is it hard to to get a team to do it? Right. And yeah, it takes a it takes a lot for teams to feel very comfortable in those types of situations where, you know, people are still talking about the the bell icon to try from a few weeks ago. That just happened. Nothing. But obviously it took a lot of it took a lot of people just to commit to it. I think Milan started it.
00:24:59
Speaker
It's so it's so hard for a team to feel that comfortable in those situations where yes, everything looks super chaotic and nobody has a clue what's going on, but they're almost same page. They all understand where they should be in relationship to each other and obviously playing with each other is very helpful, but still like just.
00:25:18
Speaker
getting into those types of positions takes more than just a game. You have to do it in training too. So they've obviously seen this as something that they can take advantage of and have worked on it and harnessed it and understand that with their very good and very stout defense, they're gonna create some opportunities and those opportunities are things you wanna finish. They've become pretty good at finishing them.
00:25:46
Speaker
I think the Philharmonic try came off a turnover didn't it at some point? I know the massage eventually chipped it through, but I feel like it was like a phase or two earlier that we just turned it over. I think so. So maybe I'm crazy and making that up. But no, I think I think they I thought it was kind of off. I feel like there was a break involved. Mm hmm. Something to that degree. And then we turned it over. Like I feel like we turned it over. They took a little bit of break. We turned it back over and then scored.
00:26:13
Speaker
Yeah, some to that degree, the way that's, that's what it felt. That's what my, my, um, entirely sober recollection of the, yeah, no. Yeah. So, and it was a wonderful performance and we're still, you know,
00:26:29
Speaker
There's still no Walker, there's still no McDowell, like, lots to be, lots to be happy about with this team's performance, but also knowing that we still have players like that waiting in the wings and dumb, dumb stayed on the bench for a while, which was nice. But then, and then, and then, and then, and then, Mr. Freejack himself, Johnny Pollan with 50, 50, 50 games for the Freejacks, like,
00:27:00
Speaker
They've been everyone's been box office. He's been so good since he came. And he's only gotten better and just made it. Yeah, he's he's been fantastic, both fully, but obviously for the three jacks as well. Just another level. And he really has thrived in this team. We heard the other week, Matthew claim, you know, saying that that. He's underrated as a nine and boy, is that
00:27:30
Speaker
Exactly the truth. Right. Like he's so they the league has an absolute star on their hands and really need to be promoting him. Right. And I really wish the league start because I don't really feel like, I mean, again, we see, you know,
00:27:46
Speaker
if fuckface is the guy that they're gonna promote, I mean, they're doing it wrong. That's the only, that's the kind of thing that makes me nervous about MLR is that they're doing it wrong like that. Like, yeah, he's a scruffy, or look like Kenny Powers, bullshit, and play like Kenny Power, you know, just don't give a fuck. He plays like Kenny Powers, yeah. Right. Like, this guy is just one of your best players and he's not really well known around, I don't think he's, he's certainly not as well known as he should be.
00:28:17
Speaker
No, I feel like he's getting, there's been a disservice done on behalf of John Poland. Number one, if there's a better halfback in this league, I don't know who it is. I know Osburger has been brilliant for San Diego, and I'm not taking anything away from him whatsoever. The Tugetala is good. He doesn't have anybody around him. No, and that's the other, like,
00:28:39
Speaker
2C's been kind of buried into this old glory team and, you know, having been near this year was helpful, but... He was absolutely outstanding this match, but he got no help. Yeah, like... 20 minutes of Palamu can't be like what your attack is, because he's not the same player he used to be by any means. No. No. No, if they had 80 minutes of him, that would have been scary, but no. He doesn't have that in him.
00:29:07
Speaker
Yeah, Kurt Baker struggled mightily with this with this one. Their their fullback just making way too many mistakes, way too many mistakes. And nobody really helped him out with it either. No.
00:29:24
Speaker
I thought Junior Sayu was talking way too much smack for how badly his team was playing. I was like, eh, you're the type of player I really don't like just in general. If you're going to talk a lot of shit and your team can't back you up and you can't back it up, then you probably just need to shut your mouth and play rugby. Right. Yeah. Definitely. And it was a little annoying on that end.
00:29:46
Speaker
You know, and there are players that probably should have stood up a little bit better and did not like Charles was poor. Oh, he was terrible. Yeah. They're tight. That was getting his ass kicked. And that was Cal Stewart. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cure signs was happy. Cure signs is a converted loose head by the way.
00:30:04
Speaker
Can't believe he came to us as a hooker. Oh, believe so. I could be wrong about that one. So somebody double-checked me. He did a number on Stewart. He did. He was kicking his ass pretty, pretty well. Made life, made life hard on him. Um, yeah, I don't travel. But he was, was a ghost. Yep.
00:30:29
Speaker
non-threatening entirely. No, he was, he almost just wasn't like, he just almost didn't come to play in a lot of ways. And I'm not trying to like shit on him or anything, but just, it wasn't good. You're right. And towards the end of the game, it was, it wasn't towards the end of the game that I realized, holy shit, that's, that's, he was beating it. Like, yeah. Fuck, he was bad. Yeah. It was, it was a very unbeknownst performance. Um,
00:30:58
Speaker
There's another guy that I think we've tired him heavily and I still want to talk about him because he's done a brilliant job for us this year and has been has been integral to our success. When you think about his role and who he's kind of
00:31:14
Speaker
the jobs he's done. Reese McDonald's is the guy I'm talking about. The jobs he's been asked to do, like if we had him, a player like him last year, then I think we win. I think we win it all. I think so. Ken Playten does a brilliant job at fullback as well, allows a true 10 to play 10. Yeah, he's, I mean, really, if you compare it to like,
00:31:42
Speaker
If you put two players together and I'm not trying to speak early about two players, but they just, they weren't him, um, Fife and Harrison Boyle. And I think he's better than both of them. Yeah, I think so too. Doing the roles that they were asked to do. Cause he's a natural 10. He's been at, he's being asked to go play 15 and he's doing it.
00:32:02
Speaker
masterfully. Yes. And, you know, I was happy to be able to tell him, tell him so on Saturday. We finally and we also unlocked our first achievement of the season, which was redeem ourselves from last year and get a fucking picture with Stacy Fluhler. Yes, that was that was nice. And obviously, Bo was there. So of course, we're not going to say no. Bo's Bo's our guy. So we're going to say yes.
00:32:30
Speaker
First off, I made a mistake. I made a tactical error and I gave the phone to a guy.
00:32:35
Speaker
who like as soon as ever we were all kind of together he's like picture up there good there you go and i was like god damn it because his wife or whatever would have taken like three or four and made sure like we had one certainly good one so i'm in a weird space like um because i'm still getting like i'm because okay so stacy puts her arm around me because we're gonna do this and i'm like oh holy shit i'm kind of just in a little shock so i'm
00:33:01
Speaker
Yeah. Situated myself with my arm around her. I'm like, holy shit, this is happening. And the picture kind of shows that she's excited. You're excited. And Bodine's like, I know. I think that's a standard base, honestly. Like that is like, that's his everyday face. But it's like, they really want to take a picture with her and I'm here. He probably knew that. He probably knew that too, honestly, if we're honest. Um, but yeah, thank you. Thank you to both of them for being very accommodating, very kind and
00:33:31
Speaker
Um, and she is, you know, just from the few, the minute or two I got to chat with her, like wonderful, wonderful person. Um, had to, had to tell her about that or tell her how much I thought of that try from the, from the final. Cause when at one other point, am I going to get to tell her about that? Try the final, like, I don't know if I'll ever get that opportunity. And, and yes, it was brilliant. And yes, I probably disturbed my neighbors and I don't give a shit because that was totally worth it. Sorry. It was not a good neighbor that day.
00:33:59
Speaker
And even she was like, wow, that was on super early for you guys. I'm like, we don't care. We're watching that. Like we're watching that live. Like that's how we figured it out. Don't you worry. Don't you worry. We figured it out. We're, we're, we're resourceful people over here, even even if it's painful, but so we have to the final was there in the final and, um,
00:34:26
Speaker
Yeah. Unfortunately, we're not going to Chicago, but it's not going to, it's not that it never ends up being the two best team. It always ends up being, but it's not a team that got hot. And then a team, then a really good team. These are two really good teams. They're going to play in this final. Um, I think it would be hard to say that they're, they're not the two best.
00:34:50
Speaker
And it's hard to ever say that about a final, but really, if you look at the grand scheme of things and the paperwork and all that stuff, like, yeah, two best teams without a doubt. Right. Like the Sabercats in Seattle have had a good Utah up and down, certainly not the best.
00:35:10
Speaker
Seattle beats Houston, like, and the free jacks are, I think they're, I don't see how they're not better than either of those two to be perfectly honest. So yeah, to me and the Legion are certainly absolutely better than almost everybody else. So it's going to be a, yeah, it is. I certainly, I have hope that
00:35:29
Speaker
the game lives up to what it should be. Cause if these are two really, this should be a, should, you know, a little bit of a shootout, uh, slugfest kind of thing where we're, you know, both these teams kind of play that same way where they will pounce on mistakes and both teams make mistakes. So that's the fun part is that it's like, okay, who takes, who does better or making, taking advantage of the other teams mistakes and putting it in the, in the tri-zone because
00:35:57
Speaker
That's what it's going to be. This is, I can't even say it's like a race to 40 because shit, it could be 40 at half and then 50 and you know, 60, like this could go high. Yeah. I think this will be, this will rival that, that, um, that final that San Diego and Seattle played, um, in San Diego a few years ago, that, um, Seattle, one of the death, I would bet the farm it's probably going to be something like that.
00:36:22
Speaker
I just hope we win. Right. The Legion are too good and the Freejacks have too many players who can light it up and make clutch plays. I'm not trying to, you know, just my completely objective opinion at this point. Yes, I'm a Freejacks fan, no doubt. It would be a shock to me if either way, it's like if you know who wins at 60 minutes, I'd be shocked.
00:36:52
Speaker
Yeah, liar lies all you like. I think 60 right. I think you might know it's 70. Yeah, absolutely. But it's going to be it's still going to be in question because either of these teams can score like 10 points in 10 minutes. So who knows? All right. Well, penultimate pod done.
00:37:22
Speaker
We will have one more, one more next year. Next week will be our, our finale. I think the one thing that I think we'll end up doing a 15, 15 overall, the season, um, collective so we can probably add that to the
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00:37:37
Speaker
docket. But other than that, yeah, we're going to probably be talking. Um, I don't think we've talked about the French wall cup spot, so we'll have a look at that. Um,
00:37:45
Speaker
And that's really it. Like, and then the final and that'll be it. So I don't have a bitch, but buckle in kids. It'll be a short, but fast one in a lot of ways. Yeah. You won't even need to put it on, you know, 1.5 times speed. Yeah. It's going to be speedy. Zoom.
00:38:04
Speaker
But yeah, we will, we'll be here for that. Um, but that's it on that. Um, anybody that's going to the watch party, we will probably be there. Um, you know what, but in, in any case, um, if you're going to Chicago, please travel safe and enjoy it and represent the free jacks. Well, don't be an ass. If you kidnap a Jack's Rangers, um, we, we want them back, but I'm not paying bail. Exactly. Yeah. You will not, you, um, you won't get ransom.
00:38:35
Speaker
Um, but I might buy you a beer. Yeah, something like that. Right. Uh, anyway. Um, but we do appreciate you all for listening in to us and hanging out with us. We'll catch you all next week. Go free Jax. Have a good one. Everyone later.